[IC] Prophet - 60% Keyboard

[pchoi]

Does this have a polycarbonate case option?

[westfoxtrot]

I'm curious wether colors has been decided. Would it make sense to offer more than 3 colors if case tops can be ordered as extra?

yes please see update in first post

As we draw closer to March, I was curious if there are any US vendors lined up / in talks with? EU shipping isn't a dealbreaker for me but cheaper is always better of course.

I'm excited!

US Vendor confirmed, please see first post

If comparing Prophet to recent boards like Polaris (250usd), what is the difference? I wonder since the price is about 100usd difference between both boards?
The Polaris has an included brass weight and included sound dampening foam.

Prophet GB
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101904.0

I'm sorry I wasn't able to hit a price point that suits you

Does this have a polycarbonate case option?

No PC case

[lush_bunny]

I'm sorry I wasn't able to hit a price point that suits you

How succinct lol. Hope everything with the factory goes well soon.

[westfoxtrot]

I'm sorry I wasn't able to hit a price point that suits you

How succinct lol. Hope everything with the factory goes well soon.

I mean I'd love to be able to sell this for $100 less but it's just not feasible. I don't know how else to respond to this 

[hkiri]

I'm really curious how many units in E-white will actually be sold...

[_PixelNinja]

Thanks for the update Westfoxtrot!

Any current info on the PCB color(s) that will be available or is that still TBD?

[westfoxtrot]

Thanks for the update Westfoxtrot!

Any current info on the PCB color(s) that will be available or is that still TBD?

ah knew I'd forget something - matte black was the clear winner

[_PixelNinja]

ah knew I'd forget something - matte black was the clear winner

Awesome. Thanks!

[self]

Great update!


Off, 150 units FCFS, this will be hard.
So, all the vendors are gonna add Prophet as a listing on their websites at the same time?
Or you will release the form and we will need to specify the proxy we want?

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[lush_bunny]

Group Buy is currently being pushed to start 15th April with a kit price of $325 + local taxes + shipping.

Noice. Looking forward to the price points of extra PCBs and Tops.

Vendors
US - Cannon Keys
EU - mykeyboard.eu
SEA - TBD
If the SEA vendor doesn't work out then it'll just be available from the US and EU vendors.

SEA vendor would be so sick for someone living in that region. Fingers crossed.

Colours selected as per poll:

Black
E-White
Dark Blue (should be very similar to the Satisfaction75 blue)

The lack of dark red makes me sad. Alas, such is life.

The GB will be open until April 30th or until we hit 150 units (whichever comes last). If this number is looking unrealistic after 2 weeks we will re-evaluate what we are able to do.

No MOQ?

I'm looking forward to this 60% so bad. Fingers crossed on everyone's health and wallets for this.

[gnhuy91]

Great update!


Off, 150 units FCFS, this will be hard.
So, all the vendors are gonna add Prophet as a listing on their websites at the same time?
Or you will release the form and we will need to specify the proxy we want?

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whichever comes last (not first), April 30th or 150units.

[self]

Great update!


Off, 150 units FCFS, this will be hard.
So, all the vendors are gonna add Prophet as a listing on their websites at the same time?
Or you will release the form and we will need to specify the proxy we want?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk

whichever comes last (not first), April 30th or 150units.

I tried to join Duck Viper V3 and they had similar rules (either a week of 100 units iirc). 100 units were sold in less then 2 minutes.

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[Southern Discomfort]

Colours selected as per poll:

Black
E-White
Dark Blue (should be very similar to the Satisfaction75 blue)

Unfortunately we are limited to 3 colours due to manufacturing requirements.
The bottom will be available in either black or matching your top.

Really bad news. Can I order a raw-finished top and bottom?

[platypusduck]

Great update!


Off, 150 units FCFS, this will be hard.
So, all the vendors are gonna add Prophet as a listing on their websites at the same time?
Or you will release the form and we will need to specify the proxy we want?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk

whichever comes last (not first), April 30th or 150units.

I tried to join Duck Viper V3 and they had similar rules (either a week of 100 units iirc). 100 units were sold in less then 2 minutes.

So it's either we reach April 30 and we haven't reached the 150 units target (so it continues until it reaches 150 units); or we reach 150 units in 2 minutes and it ain't even April 30 yet (so it continues until April 30). I'm sure there will be enough time for us to get our boards.

But it's also stipulated that the GB period depends on how well it is doing; for instance, it might not be physically feasible for the GB runner to do 3000 units:

If this number is looking unrealistic after 2 weeks we will re-evaluate what we are able to do.

[self]

Great update!


Off, 150 units FCFS, this will be hard.
So, all the vendors are gonna add Prophet as a listing on their websites at the same time?
Or you will release the form and we will need to specify the proxy we want?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk

whichever comes last (not first), April 30th or 150units.

I tried to join Duck Viper V3 and they had similar rules (either a week of 100 units iirc). 100 units were sold in less then 2 minutes.

So it's either we reach April 30 and we haven't reached the 150 units target (so it continues until it reaches 150 units); or we reach 150 units in 2 minutes and it ain't even April 30 yet (so it continues until April 30). I'm sure there will be enough time for us to get our boards.

But it's also stipulated that the GB period depends on how well it is doing; for instance, it might not be physically feasible for the GB runner to do 3000 units:

If this number is looking unrealistic after 2 weeks we will re-evaluate what we are able to do.

Oh, my bad!
Thanks for explanation!


By the way, E-White will be more expensive or all options will have the same price?

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[westfoxtrot]

Great update!


Off, 150 units FCFS, this will be hard.
So, all the vendors are gonna add Prophet as a listing on their websites at the same time?
Or you will release the form and we will need to specify the proxy we want?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk

whichever comes last (not first), April 30th or 150units.

^ this, current pricing is based on MOQ of 150

By the way, E-White will be more expensive or all options will have the same price?

All options are the same price

Colours selected as per poll:

Black
E-White
Dark Blue (should be very similar to the Satisfaction75 blue)

Unfortunately we are limited to 3 colours due to manufacturing requirements.
The bottom will be available in either black or matching your top.

Really bad news. Can I order a raw-finished top and bottom?

No, we will only be offering the finished parts. raw parts have other, different complications

[bigapplepietart]

E-White would be real nice!

[nasp]

Super stoked that a US vendor is involved and especially that it is Cannon KeyCult.


Great price too!

[Jade]

Will a standard hotswap PCB like a DZ60 or a 1UP 60% HSE fit?

[_PixelNinja]

Will a standard hotswap PCB like a DZ60 or a 1UP 60% HSE fit?

Considering any standard 60% PCB will fit this board according to OP, technically those should fit. Not so sure about everything staying put though.

[Rafa_n]

Some of the phrasing on the update seems a little confusing, maybe it's just me, but, just to be clear. The MOQ is 150 but there is no upper limit on units correct?

[Zeelobby]

Some of the phrasing on the update seems a little confusing, maybe it's just me, but, just to be clear. The MOQ is 150 but there is no upper limit on units correct?

Looks like there is now a 150 unit max. Which is the moq to justify $325 price.

[cijanzen]

Some of the phrasing on the update seems a little confusing, maybe it's just me, but, just to be clear. The MOQ is 150 but there is no upper limit on units correct?

Looks like there is now a 150 unit max. Which is the moq to justify $325 price.

No. It’s whichever comes later. So if there aren’t 150 units purchased by April 30 then it’ll keep running until the MOQ is hit. Otherwise if 150 units sell on the first day it’ll still run til April 30.

[nasp]

The GB will be open until April 30th or until we hit 150 units (whichever comes last). If this number is looking unrealistic after 2 weeks we will re-evaluate what we are able to do.

Usually the phrase is "whichever comes first" so I agree that this is a bit confusing. The only thing that is clear is that MOQ is 150

[platypusduck]

The GB will be open until April 30th or until we hit 150 units (whichever comes last). If this number is looking unrealistic after 2 weeks we will re-evaluate what we are able to do.

Usually the phrase is "whichever comes first" so I agree that this is a bit confusing. The only thing that is clear is that MOQ is 150

Right. Although I think it's something along the lines of:

> The GB will have an MOQ of 150 and will run until April 30. However, it may continue after that if the MOQ hasn't been reached at that point.
> On the other hand, if the number of sold units looks unrealistic (too little, or too much) two weeks after the GB opens, then we will re-evaluate what we are able to do.

Maybe Max can use that instead in the OT.

[westfoxtrot]

Will a standard hotswap PCB like a DZ60 or a 1UP 60% HSE fit?

Yes though I cannot guarantee anything to do with the way hotswap works as I haven't tried it.

Some of the phrasing on the update seems a little confusing, maybe it's just me, but, just to be clear. The MOQ is 150 but there is no upper limit on units correct?

Yes I have now changed this.

[Southern Discomfort]

No, we will only be offering the finished parts. raw parts have other, different complications

Ok, thank you. Good luck with GB!

[godofdeath]

Can we use other plates I don't recall seeing that in first post? I'm just wondering what types of layouts the plate that comes with it supports.

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[Zeelobby]

Ah. Ok. I get it. The wording just threw me.

[mattijs]

Marked my calendar. Definitely in for a WKL black case and probably an additional top/plate/PCB.

What time does the GB go live in the US on the 15th?

[westfoxtrot]

Marked my calendar. Definitely in for a WKL black case and probably an additional top/plate/PCB.

What time does the GB go live in the US on the 15th?

11AM ET is the current plan

Can we use other plates I don't recall seeing that in first post? I'm just wondering what types of layouts the plate that comes with it supports.

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plate files will be released once production models are confirmed. There are 2 plate variants, ANSI and ISO. The ANSI will support split backspace and split left shift. The ISO will have split left and ISO Enter cluster with full backspace. Both support split right shift. 7U bottom row only

[konstantin]

plate files will be released once production models are confirmed. There are 2 plate variants, ANSI and ISO. The ANSI will support split backspace and split left shift. The ISO will have split left and ISO Enter cluster with full backspace. Both support split right shift. 7U bottom row only

Bless you for supporting split LShift on the ANSI plate. Will it support stepped Caps Lock as well?

[Little4Real]

No more brass bases

[yourfavorite]

Couldn't seem to find a definitive answer but I'm guessing there is no WK layout option as I can't find a render with a compatible top plate.

[pengoot02]

Couldn't seem to find a definitive answer but I'm guessing there is no WK layout option as I can't find a render with a compatible top plate.

It will be manufactured from 6063 Aluminium and anodised in a choice of 3 colours. All boards will come with a black base. There will be HHKB, WKL & Standard Tops available.

Read the post properly

[yourfavorite]

Couldn't seem to find a definitive answer but I'm guessing there is no WK layout option as I can't find a render with a compatible top plate.

It will be manufactured from 6063 Aluminium and anodised in a choice of 3 colours. All boards will come with a black base. There will be HHKB, WKL & Standard Tops available.

Read the post properly

No need to be an ass about it. I missed the word Standard as I was looking for WK. Thanks for the info I guess.

[Vigrith]

No need to be an ass about it. I missed the word Standard as I was looking for WK. Thanks for the info I guess.

CTRL + F in the first page usually does the trick when it comes to looking through for stuff like that.

[yourfavorite]

No need to be an ass about it. I missed the word Standard as I was looking for WK. Thanks for the info I guess.

CTRL + F in the first page usually does the trick when it comes to looking through for stuff like that.

Yeah, I just missed it. I saw HHKB and WKL when searching for WK. Missed the standard entirely. Guess I just spaced. That combined with not seeing a render of Standard option lead me to ask. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[wencan008]

Looking at pictures of the Satisfaction 75, is the dark blue for the Prophet a darkish blue gray?

[Zeelobby]

Couldn't seem to find a definitive answer but I'm guessing there is no WK layout option as I can't find a render with a compatible top plate.

It will be manufactured from 6063 Aluminium and anodised in a choice of 3 colours. All boards will come with a black base. There will be HHKB, WKL & Standard Tops available.

Read the post properly

No need to be an ass about it. I missed the word Standard as I was looking for WK. Thanks for the info I guess.

Don't need to be so moody about it. You were pointed to the correct information. If it was a little snappy no need to sink to their level. In GB this is usually available in the OP.

[Module]

Definitely interested

[westfoxtrot]

plate files will be released once production models are confirmed. There are 2 plate variants, ANSI and ISO. The ANSI will support split backspace and split left shift. The ISO will have split left and ISO Enter cluster with full backspace. Both support split right shift. 7U bottom row only

Bless you for supporting split LShift on the ANSI plate. Will it support stepped Caps Lock as well?

Yes. Both plates do stepped and non-stepped. I use split left shift with ANSI enter myself :-)

Looking at pictures of the Satisfaction 75, is the dark blue for the Prophet a darkish blue gray?

It'll be anodised with the same RAL colour which is a very dark blue.

Couldn't seem to find a definitive answer but I'm guessing there is no WK layout option as I can't find a render with a compatible top plate.

Yes but the plate and PCB support 7u bottom row only, there's a standard top available I just didn't do any renders for it.

No more brass bases

There was never a plan to include this

[wencan008]

Looking at pictures of the Satisfaction 75, is the dark blue for the Prophet a darkish blue gray?

It'll be anodised with the same RAL colour which is a very dark blue.

Found a better picture and now I wish it wasn't so nice, now I want a blue and white, this hobby sucks for my wallet

[FredBananaz]

Any updates on the price for an extra pcb/plate/top?

Really excited for the upcoming GB

[westfoxtrot]

Any updates on the price for an extra pcb/plate/top?

Really excited for the upcoming GB

GB Thread is pending approval but here's the pricing:

Extras pricing:
Additional Top: $140
Additional PCBs: $35
Additional Plates: $45

[_PixelNinja]

Dis gonna be gud.

[elmo]

So no standard ANSI bottom row possible with the plates available?

Guess I have to make my own then 

Would it be possible to release a platefile with standard ANSI bottom row? (I'm too stupid for CAD stuffs)

[Mcnos]

So no standard ANSI bottom row possible with the plates available?

Guess I have to make my own then 

Would it be possible to release a platefile with standard ANSI bottom row? (I'm too stupid for CAD stuffs)

I'm not sure if the PCB even supports ANSI.

Looking at the PCB in the album it shows to only support tsangan.

[Jae-3soteric]

The Proto PCB only supported 7u bottom row (best choice) and I think its the same in the GB

[elmo]

I'm not sure if the PCB even supports ANSI.

Looking at the PCB in the album it shows to only support tsangan.

PCB shouldn't be a problem because according to max the board will fit any standard 60% PCB.
But getting a custom plate to fit that layout is going to be harder.