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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #250 on: Wed, 08 September 2021, 08:13:29 »
Just read about "Prayer warriors",  apparently it isn't working for antivaxers.

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« Reply #251 on: Wed, 08 September 2021, 20:01:55 »
West Virginia, Covid Acceleration

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« Reply #252 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 23:15:50 »
Covid, the Educational Virus.


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« Reply #253 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 23:28:13 »
Funny new slang online.

__ Y'all Qaeda

__  Antiva

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« Reply #254 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 23:39:44 »
80 million eligible , 0 shots.

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« Reply #255 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 07:43:49 »
Tennessee ::

8 Tennessee school employees die of covid in the first month of school opening.

Adults publicly heckle Tennessee HS student as he gave speech about grandmother's death in front of education board.

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« Reply #256 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 07:52:42 »
Doctors, PREPARE for a Stern Talking too.

For some reason, the bad grammar and misspelling is not surprising.  Started off ok, guess they gave up on proofreading mid page.

A Hughmahnn actually wrote this. AI has clearly surpassed Many hughmahns at this point.


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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #257 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 08:36:54 »
Wthh...   There is such a thing as a VIRTUAL ICU nursing position now ?

So, they get a feed from the patient and machines,   and they just watch from online, and if something's up, needs to be done, they call the staffing

VIRTUAL +  ICU..     Seeeeems, Unsafe,   guess this is an emergency scenario with the staffing problem. 



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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #258 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 08:43:29 »

they get a feed from the patient and machines, and they just watch from online


That makes total sense to me. With numerous patients to be monitored, just watching the screens could certainly be a full-time job.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #259 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 08:50:25 »

they get a feed from the patient and machines, and they just watch from online


That makes total sense to me. With numerous patients to be monitored, just watching the screens could certainly be a full-time job.

Have you ever had a skype drop-out suddenly or some other computer malfunction,   Now that dropped call is a life.

We understand the principal sure, but this is the very edge of the cliff now. 

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« Reply #260 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 08:57:44 »
Wthh...   There is such a thing as a VIRTUAL ICU nursing position now ?

So, they get a feed from the patient and machines,   and they just watch from online, and if something's up, needs to be done, they call the staffing

VIRTUAL +  ICU..     Seeeeems, Unsafe,   guess this is an emergency scenario with the staffing problem. 


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I believe this has been a thing for a while now.

I worked IT in a hospital several years ago and they had a station with a big ol workstation and a tv with views from a camera in every patient room on that floor.

Nobody was dedicated to it though.

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« Reply #261 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 21:01:08 »
They don't have to have someone dedicated to watching, they have alarm bells.
Unfortunately most covid patients vitals are so far below normal they actually can't get the alarms to stop regardless of how far down they dial the settings, meaning it's all they hear constantly. I'd have quit that job just for that reason alone.

Expect these people to become more unhinged.
Biden's declaration will help the majority but it's going to further galvanize the extremists, though to be fair it doesn't matter what you do you aren't talking those people back from the ledge and you can't work around them, you only option is to save who you can and slap them down like whack-a-mole.  Frankly I'm glad it happened now, maybe it will stop some of them before they die on some dumbass hill leaving a family destitute.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #262 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 22:13:51 »
Ivermectin worked fine when me and my family got Covid, I don't care about any politics behind it.

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« Reply #263 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 22:31:12 »
Ivermectin worked fine when me and my family got Covid, I don't care about any politics behind it.
Curious if the mods are out there deleting this guys posts

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« Reply #264 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 22:41:41 »
Ivermectin worked fine when me and my family got Covid, I don't care about any politics behind it.
Curious if the mods are out there deleting this guys posts
They are. Or at least one is.
But it may be just a spam filter, since there are probably scammers and spammers trying to sell various COVID medicines running about.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #265 on: Sat, 11 September 2021, 10:21:42 »
Ivermectin (in medical-grade quality and species-appropriate dosage) may eventually prove to have some benefit, but that does not alter the fact that existing vaccines are preferred because they are proven effective, freely available, and free of cost in the US.

"The National Institutes of Health in the United States recently stated that “there are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19,” and the World Health Organization recommends against its use outside of clinical trials."

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19


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« Reply #266 on: Sat, 11 September 2021, 20:02:30 »
I've never trusted government, politicians, etc. so I chose a different path.
I wish everyone good health on whatever path you choose to treat or prevent this virus.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #267 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 10:01:10 »
The scene: Hospital

Oblivious patients remove their bipap, (oxygen apparatus), They get up from their bed, and start to code (dying) right there on the floor.

PROBLEM:  If the Nurse can't put their gowns on fast enough (short staffed, etc) to get in there. they die just like that. all of 60 seconds.

One might think, well can't they just tell the patient to put the bipap back on, trouble is, their oxygenation drops so quickly, they get instantly confused, and can't form the sense to put it back on.

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« Reply #268 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 10:23:07 »
Canada: where politics / science is mildly _more sane_

THEY project that ~85% vaccination rate is required to avoid (THEIR) criteria for lockdown..


Sooooooo....  overlay that with USA-South...  we're in big trouble..

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« Reply #269 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 06:19:31 »
So, apparently the horse paste is so in demand now, it's Out of stock everywhere, and people can't even get it for legitimate livestock uses.

So, covid has now impacted the innocent horses.

It's getting REALLY desperate out there, infections are extremely high, fear of death drives the demand. The deep web market places, Yup, there they are

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« Reply #270 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 06:40:58 »
great map . love maps.

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« Reply #271 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 06:52:20 »
New super move,   Gargling iodine.

Mouthwash is too casual .....

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« Reply #272 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 08:02:37 »

Gargling iodine.


But it doesn't hurt your mouth nearly as much as bleach.
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« Reply #273 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 08:06:29 »

Gargling iodine.


But it doesn't hurt your mouth nearly as much as bleach.


It made wounds brown colored back when tp4 went outside and scraped his knees.

Question is does it also dye mouth/ tongue color ?

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« Reply #274 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 08:21:33 »
Sure. You get a rich dark color instead of that wimpy bleached-out pink hue.
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« Reply #276 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 14:33:57 »
The official figures are undercounting,  we're somewhere between 1 and 2 million covid deaths in the USA.

India is between 3-5 million. 

World wide, it's some where between 7 and 18 million. (data gap in poorer countries)

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« Reply #277 on: Thu, 16 September 2021, 12:09:59 »
Alaska... pretty serious.

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« Reply #278 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 06:21:29 »
Up to 30% of Covid patients suffer post-viral dysautonomia, long-Covid type neurological disorders; lingering brain fog, short-term memory loss, cognitive issues, dizziness, rapid heartbeat, and fast breathing.

This will go splendid, antivaxxers + hardware brain disorder.

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« Reply #279 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 08:47:36 »
Up to 30% of Covid patients suffer post-viral dysautonomia, long-Covid type neurological disorders; lingering brain fog, short-term memory loss, cognitive issues, dizziness, rapid heartbeat, and fast breathing.

This will go splendid, antivaxxers + hardware brain disorder.

You mean they'll become even stupider? Is that possible?
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« Reply #280 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 09:05:30 »

You mean they'll become even stupider?


It is not stupidity in the usual sense of the word (although they are incredibly stupid). Anti-vaxxing is a deliberate act of making a statement of defiance.

Defiance of what? Well, that is a more complex question. They are frightened and disoriented living in the modern world, so they are lashing out against "the modern world" itself.

As we said in the US, Trump was elected because millions of people in America decided to "vote with their middle finger" even though that, too, was utterly self-destructive and counter-productive - "Draining the Swamp" by electing the biggest, fattest, ugliest, meanest alligator they had ever seen.


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« Reply #281 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 09:36:34 »
Ivermectin worked fine when me and my family got Covid, I don't care about any politics behind it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

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« Reply #282 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 20:55:42 »
Up to 30% of Covid patients suffer post-viral dysautonomia, long-Covid type neurological disorders; lingering brain fog, short-term memory loss, cognitive issues, dizziness, rapid heartbeat, and fast breathing.

This will go splendid, antivaxxers + hardware brain disorder.

You mean they'll become even stupider? Is that possible?
More like feeling hungover or a minor migraine.
The list is a lot longer than that (I posted a link earlier in the thread) and based on SARS can come and go for up to 2.5 years after.

Anti-vaxxers need to get over this "it's only 1%" because it doesn't have to kill you can't make life hell, or at least a pain in the neck at times.
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« Reply #283 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 22:54:38 »
Apparently the feds just screwed up the supply of antibodies to my state. Thanks a lot for the "help"government...

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« Reply #284 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 00:17:10 »
Ivermectin worked fine when me and my family got Covid, I don't care about any politics behind it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
This is why I do not visit Reddit anymore, it is full of toxic circlejerking and making fun of people's death.

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« Reply #285 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 02:51:45 »
Ivermectin worked fine when me and my family got Covid, I don't care about any politics behind it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
This is why I do not visit Reddit anymore, it is full of toxic circlejerking and making fun of people's death.
That Reddit is toxic I don't dispute for an instant, but frankly to me it looks more like they're making fun of the fact that these people keep talking about god, jesus and Trump and all sorts of other nonsense. That none if those will save them in the end isn't even worth pointing out, I think.
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« Reply #286 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 04:31:28 »
Apparently the feds just screwed up the supply of antibodies to my state. Thanks a lot for the "help"government...
You didn't want it and didn't take it, but yes, by all means, it was their fault.

Just curious what kind of help you expected.


Ever heard the story of the drowning man?
A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."
The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."
So the rowboat went on.
Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."
To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the motorboat went on.
Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."
To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"


We have masks, we have a vaccine, it's proven, it's tested, we know it works... What more do you expect.

And yes, the gov is always screwing up, for a very simple reason, it's rule by committee. A committee never gets it fully right or fully fully wrong, it's always just mediocre. We have over 500 people trying to rule as committee (and often acting on their own behalf) and if you asked them to take a vote on taking a bathroom break or pissing themselves half would vote to piss themselves just to watch the other side have to do it as well.  Throw in a mix of money, thieves, liars, cheapskates, swindlers, gass-lighting a**holes and those who really do just want to watch it all burn and you get the the US Congress... Even if you have a bunch wanting to do the right thing, someone else will surely try and spoil it, and don't just blame one side, both do it, just not always for the same reason.
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« Reply #287 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 04:43:49 »
Ivermectin worked fine when me and my family got Covid, I don't care about any politics behind it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
This is why I do not visit Reddit anymore, it is full of toxic circlejerking and making fun of people's death.
That Reddit is toxic I don't dispute for an instant, but frankly to me it looks more like they're making fun of the fact that these people keep talking about god, jesus and Trump and all sorts of other nonsense. That none if those will save them in the end isn't even worth pointing out, I think.

It's dark humor and way for people to cope in rough situations.
Work in any industry that deals with hazards or death or and such and you will see it constantly. Is it a bit messed up? Yeah, but so is the situation.

The Herman Cain award is just the Darwin Awards for Covid deniers.
Most people in that Reddit likely didn't want the people to die but at the same time these people did it to themselves which is why it's named what it is. Hermain Cain was a Trump presidential cabinet member with stage 4 Colon cancer and given a 30% survival rate chose to go to a political rally, without a mask, during a pandemic to show support for his party/president. He caught Covid and died of it before the cancer could kill him.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #288 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 07:56:09 »
Is it really THAT bad ??

I mean, the nurses would know.. The hospitals, etc,   But on the outside,  I don't have any proof.

This disconnect is probably the main reason why you can spread misinformation.


So if antivaxxer struggles on how to read / use the internet,  they see a sign that says Fake news, You are the chosen one,    and they're like, well maybe... maybe....  I like how this sign tells me I'm special.

 

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #289 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 08:12:09 »

This disconnect

tells me I'm special.


Where I used to work there were many "right-wingers" who occasionally tried to engage me in social/political conversations.

Of all the diversionary argumentative techniques that they employed (and they used them all) the one that was most infuriating to me was their relentless application of false equivalencies.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #290 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 08:37:57 »
Ireland:

The dying dude (Joe) rescued from the hospital by Antivaxxers,  returned to the hospital a day later, and is now dead.

How is that not murder?

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« Reply #291 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 15:43:36 »
Apparently the feds just screwed up the supply of antibodies to my state. Thanks a lot for the "help"government...
You didn't want it and didn't take it, but yes, by all means, it was their fault.

I didn't need the antibodies because I am in my 20s. I took zinc and Ivermectin (human grade prescribed by our doctor) and niquil/dayquil. An elderly friend however needed the antibodies, thankfully he got them before the supply was cut. He is getting better now (will keep you guys updated on how he does).

Lots of people here used the antibodies so I do not know what you mean by this.

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #292 on: Sun, 19 September 2021, 03:48:23 »
Apparently the feds just screwed up the supply of antibodies to my state. Thanks a lot for the "help"government...
You didn't want it and didn't take it, but yes, by all means, it was their fault.

I didn't need the antibodies because I am in my 20s. I took zinc and Ivermectin (human grade prescribed by our doctor) and niquil/dayquil. An elderly friend however needed the antibodies, thankfully he got them before the supply was cut. He is getting better now (will keep you guys updated on how he does).

Lots of people here used the antibodies so I do not know what you mean by this.
Will covid likely kill you, no, but it could mess you up for a long time or for life without actually killing you.
Also you not getting it, is why this is dragging on so long.

A healthy immune system is great, but it only goes so far. And how do you know yours is great? You could have early stages of cancer, undiagnosed heart issues or others and not know. Just because you seem healthy doesn't mean you actually are and worse, with this is unpredictable anyhow. Asthmatics and smokers were scared to death, turned out that lung problems they have actually inhibited Covid from latching on and were actually spared the worst of it. Just one instance where being healthier was not actually better.

I'd rather listen to a well revered virologist (along with most of the rest of them) than some general practitioner doctor who prescribes vitamins to cure a pandemic.

As for you supply, was it cut after the last batch sat and expired, as happened in several states/counties? They aren't going to keep sending tons of it if you won't use it and it just goes bad (then you cry above government waste!). I don't buy that it was cut just because they were incompetent, there was a reason the supply was cut, most likely no demand.
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« Reply #293 on: Sun, 19 September 2021, 10:55:45 »
You can blame the media that many people think your only options are:
1. Vaccine
2. Die
But the governor is letting more people know about the antibodies so demand will go up (This is how I heard about it and suggested it to my friend who previously was getting no treatment at all.)

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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #294 on: Sun, 19 September 2021, 12:23:22 »
You can blame the media that many people think your only options are:
1. Vaccine
2. Die
I'm assuming you think it's the pro-vax media that are saying that, but I'm pretty sure that it's actually the anti-vax media who say that. Because if you know anything at all about what's been happening the last one and a half years, you know that that's not only not true, it also completely misses every single point a pro-vaxxer would make.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #295 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 08:29:30 »
/Upset because dr.Fauci used the term "Monster Variant",  to describe the inevitability of one should Vaccination not take hold.

It's not scary when Tp4 says it,  hey guyz: Monster Variant,

But when you hear dr.Fauci says it,  it'be ligh, we all gon'Die.


Then you realize, welllll..... You've got ALLLL of Africa and much of south Asia with anywhere between 2-5 years before comparable vaccination rate.

Delta came in only 1 YEAR..... we're going to roll the dice 2 to 5 more times ? ++ Climate Catastrophe

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« Reply #296 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 20:49:54 »
You can blame the media that many people think your only options are:
1. Vaccine
2. Die
I'm assuming you think it's the pro-vax media that are saying that, but I'm pretty sure that it's actually the anti-vax media who say that. Because if you know anything at all about what's been happening the last one and a half years, you know that that's not only not true, it also completely misses every single point a pro-vaxxer would make.
I haven't heard any advice on alternate treatments from most big media sources, any alternate treatments are shot down or suppressed by them and my government officials (HCQ, Ivermectin, the antibodies, etc.), something foul is going on here.

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« Reply #297 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 21:50:25 »
I haven't heard any advice on alternate treatments from most big media sources, any alternate treatments are shot down or suppressed by them and my government officials (HCQ, Ivermectin, the antibodies, etc.), something foul is going on here.
It's most likely because they have extremely niche requirements in order to be effective (sunlight, bleach, ivermectin) and have proven to not be reliable/effective in a clinical setting.  Not sure where you live but "the antibodies" (monoclonal antibody) is a treatment widely understood to reduce significant infection where I live (notable people who got this treatment include Trump and Joe Rogan).
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #298 on: Tue, 21 September 2021, 02:14:30 »
You can blame the media that many people think your only options are:
1. Vaccine
2. Die
I'm assuming you think it's the pro-vax media that are saying that, but I'm pretty sure that it's actually the anti-vax media who say that. Because if you know anything at all about what's been happening the last one and a half years, you know that that's not only not true, it also completely misses every single point a pro-vaxxer would make.
I haven't heard any advice on alternate treatments from most big media sources, any alternate treatments are shot down or suppressed by them and my government officials (HCQ, Ivermectin, the antibodies, etc.), something foul is going on here.
They may as well say drinking honey or rosewater doesn't work either.

US big media is possibly the most untrustworthy Western source I know anyway, it's absolutely laughable. I think Al Qaeda Radio or whatever might be more reliable.

Anyway, if you google "does ivermectic work against covid" the first result is a nice, succinct FDA page.
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Re: Antivax ?
« Reply #299 on: Tue, 21 September 2021, 07:58:22 »
An Alabama Hospital (not all), ended its vaccine mandate for staff.

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