Controversy about space bar flipping

[xtrafrood]

Get rid of it entirely. I'm behind Google on this. It's just too much.

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#GoogleGlass4Lyfe

[demik]

nobody likes a flip flopper

[alexjd99]

Ok I have a theory, and hear me out on this.

It's all about the desk and chair. If your desk is low and chair is somewhat high, your thumb should rest on the curved part of the space bar. On the other hand, if you have a higher desk, your thumb would hit the edge of the space bar, making flipping nicer. Same applies for keyboard angle and wrist rests. High deskers like higher keyboard angles, and low deskers like lower keyboard angles and wrist rests

That said, #flippedbarmasterrace

[ideus]

In my experience it feels more natural in flipped position, but it is entirely personal preference.

[cryptokey]

Personally, I like the feel of it flipped more.  On my RF87U, my spacebar clicked a bit but after I flipped it, the clicking stopped.  Now it's uniform with my other keys with the Hypersphere rings.

[jacobolus]

It's all about the desk and chair. If your desk is low and chair is somewhat high, your thumb should rest on the curved part of the space bar. On the other hand, if you have a higher desk, your thumb would hit the edge of the space bar, making flipping nicer. Same applies for keyboard angle and wrist rests. High deskers like higher keyboard angles, and low deskers like lower keyboard angles and wrist rests

To be more precise, if your thumb is hitting the edge of the spacebar, your keyboard is tilted wrong for your furniture. You want the top of the keyboard parallel to your forearms. Pull the keyboard closer to your body and flip the rear feet down. If your thumb is still hitting the edge, try tilting the keyboard steeper by piling something under the far side of the board, or try lowering your desk or raising your seat. Most importantly, make sure your wrists are straight.

[ThoughtArtist]

It's all about the desk and chair. If your desk is low and chair is somewhat high, your thumb should rest on the curved part of the space bar. On the other hand, if you have a higher desk, your thumb would hit the edge of the space bar, making flipping nicer. Same applies for keyboard angle and wrist rests. High deskers like higher keyboard angles, and low deskers like lower keyboard angles and wrist rests

To be more precise, if your thumb is hitting the edge of the spacebar, your keyboard is tilted wrong for your furniture. You want the top of the keyboard parallel to your forearms. Pull the keyboard closer to your body and flip the rear feet down. If your thumb is still hitting the edge, try tilting the keyboard steeper by piling something under the far side of the board, or try lowering your desk or raising your seat. Most importantly, make sure your wrists are straight.

[alexjd99]

It's all about the desk and chair. If your desk is low and chair is somewhat high, your thumb should rest on the curved part of the space bar. On the other hand, if you have a higher desk, your thumb would hit the edge of the space bar, making flipping nicer. Same applies for keyboard angle and wrist rests. High deskers like higher keyboard angles, and low deskers like lower keyboard angles and wrist rests

To be more precise, if your thumb is hitting the edge of the spacebar, your keyboard is tilted wrong for your furniture. You want the top of the keyboard parallel to your forearms. Pull the keyboard closer to your body and flip the rear feet down. If your thumb is still hitting the edge, try tilting the keyboard steeper by piling something under the far side of the board, or try lowering your desk or raising your seat. Most importantly, make sure your wrists are straight.

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Ok so you just pull the space bar out, sometimes it helps to use two cap removers, and then when you take the key off the board, you rotate it precisely 180 degrees, and put it back on the board.

I mean that's pretty simple </s>

[ThoughtArtist]

It's all about the desk and chair. If your desk is low and chair is somewhat high, your thumb should rest on the curved part of the space bar. On the other hand, if you have a higher desk, your thumb would hit the edge of the space bar, making flipping nicer. Same applies for keyboard angle and wrist rests. High deskers like higher keyboard angles, and low deskers like lower keyboard angles and wrist rests

To be more precise, if your thumb is hitting the edge of the spacebar, your keyboard is tilted wrong for your furniture. You want the top of the keyboard parallel to your forearms. Pull the keyboard closer to your body and flip the rear feet down. If your thumb is still hitting the edge, try tilting the keyboard steeper by piling something under the far side of the board, or try lowering your desk or raising your seat. Most importantly, make sure your wrists are straight.

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Ok so you just pull the space bar out, sometimes it helps to use two cap removers, and then when you take the key off the board, you rotate it precisely 180 degrees, and put it back on the board.

I mean that's pretty simple </s>

I f****d it up.

[alexjd99]

It's all about the desk and chair. If your desk is low and chair is somewhat high, your thumb should rest on the curved part of the space bar. On the other hand, if you have a higher desk, your thumb would hit the edge of the space bar, making flipping nicer. Same applies for keyboard angle and wrist rests. High deskers like higher keyboard angles, and low deskers like lower keyboard angles and wrist rests

To be more precise, if your thumb is hitting the edge of the spacebar, your keyboard is tilted wrong for your furniture. You want the top of the keyboard parallel to your forearms. Pull the keyboard closer to your body and flip the rear feet down. If your thumb is still hitting the edge, try tilting the keyboard steeper by piling something under the far side of the board, or try lowering your desk or raising your seat. Most importantly, make sure your wrists are straight.

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Ok so you just pull the space bar out, sometimes it helps to use two cap removers, and then when you take the key off the board, you rotate it precisely 180 degrees, and put it back on the board.

I mean that's pretty simple </s>

I f****d it up.

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My bad, should have specified which axis to rotate. )

[jaffers]

Flipping space bar is sin. There shouldn't even be a thread on this. You flipped people know that you are sinning and choose to do so, if you hide the fact or not.

You don't grab the keyboard, you press it. Rotating 180 degrees is stupid. You wouldn't rotate an ice cream 180 degrees and grab it, that's just ****ing stupid.

[alexjd99]

This debate has never cooled down even a little bit

[iLLucionist]

Ok I have a theory, and hear me out on this.

It's all about the desk and chair. If your desk is low and chair is somewhat high, your thumb should rest on the curved part of the space bar. On the other hand, if you have a higher desk, your thumb would hit the edge of the space bar, making flipping nicer. Same applies for keyboard angle and wrist rests. High deskers like higher keyboard angles, and low deskers like lower keyboard angles and wrist rests

That said, #flippedbarmasterrace

Nice theory bro.

[iLLucionist]

In my experience it feels more natural in flipped position, but it is entirely personal preference.

It feels more natural for me as well. Not sure why so many haters for flipped spacebars.

[iLLucionist]

Personally, I like the feel of it flipped more.  On my RF87U, my spacebar clicked a bit but after I flipped it, the clicking stopped.  Now it's uniform with my other keys with the Hypersphere rings.

What do you mean with "clicked a bit"?

[iLLucionist]

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Actually, it is usually the first thing I do when I got myself a new board.

[SKD]

I just flipped mine. I must say the angle of the space bar makes a better contact with the side of my thumbs. I'm keeping it like this now 

[Faeja]

the angle of the space bar makes a better contact with the side of my thumbs.

My wrists are almost parallel with my keyboard when I type and I still flip my spacebar. The way my thumb lays on a normal spacebar has the edge hitting my thumb. The thunk is also more satisfying when flipped.

[iLLucionist]

the angle of the space bar makes a better contact with the side of my thumbs.

My wrists are almost parallel with my keyboard when I type and I still flip my spacebar. The way my thumb lays on a normal spacebar has the edge hitting my thumb. The thunk is also more satisfying when flipped.

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Great pictures! Good illustration.

[xtrafrood]

Seems like this would be bad for the switches and or stabilizers. One day I will try it to confirm, but as of right now I don't see the benefit

[alexjd99]

Seems like this would be bad for the switches and or stabilizers. One day I will try it to confirm, but as of right now I don't see the benefit

Since you're hitting the space bar at more of an angle, it would be bad? Makes sense, since it's not a mostly vertical force, but then again, there's also SA R1, which is at an absurd angle, and backspace on most boards is R1, so if there are any problems there there may be some here, but I haven't ever heard of any.

[iLLucionist]

Seems like this would be bad for the switches and or stabilizers. One day I will try it to confirm, but as of right now I don't see the benefit

Since you're hitting the space bar at more of an angle, it would be bad? Makes sense, since it's not a mostly vertical force, but then again, there's also SA R1, which is at an absurd angle, and backspace on most boards is R1, so if there are any problems there there may be some here, but I haven't ever heard of any.

You are always hitting the spacebar from an angle unless - like others have pointed out - you keep your hand exactly above the keyboard. So I don't really see how the force would be different when you flip the spacebar.

[rowdy]

If everyone stops flipping there won't be any controversy

[ideus]

If everyone stops flipping there won't be any controversy

I cannot betray myself, no flipping is not an option.

[iLLucionist]

If everyone stops flipping there won't be any controversy

You mean like flipping em bars? Or flipping about flipping the spacebar?

[rowdy]

If everyone stops flipping there won't be any controversy

You mean like flipping em bars? Or flipping about flipping the spacebar?

Both )

[iLLucionist]

If everyone stops flipping there won't be any controversy

You mean like flipping em bars? Or flipping about flipping the spacebar?

Both )

Haha. Well.. I really need to flip dem bars. Not because off them looks or to show off but because I genuinely like it more. I'm gonna get hate for this... Impending doom in 1..2..

[rowdy]

If everyone stops flipping there won't be any controversy

You mean like flipping em bars? Or flipping about flipping the spacebar?

Both )

Haha. Well.. I really need to flip dem bars. Not because off them looks or to show off but because I genuinely like it more. I'm gonna get hate for this... Impending doom in 1..2..

I tried it once, flipped a space bar on an MX keyboard.  It felt weird, and looked really off (kinda set off my OCD), so I flipped it back and felt better ever since.

[iLLucionist]

Haha. Well.. I really need to flip dem bars. Not because off them looks or to show off but because I genuinely like it more. I'm gonna get hate for this... Impending doom in 1..2..

I tried it once, flipped a space bar on an MX keyboard.  It felt weird, and looked really off (kinda set off my OCD), so I flipped it back and felt better ever since.

I can imagine.. but didn't you think it FELT better flipped? Or can't your OCD handle it

[rowdy]

Haha. Well.. I really need to flip dem bars. Not because off them looks or to show off but because I genuinely like it more. I'm gonna get hate for this... Impending doom in 1..2..

I tried it once, flipped a space bar on an MX keyboard.  It felt weird, and looked really off (kinda set off my OCD), so I flipped it back and felt better ever since.

I can imagine.. but didn't you think it FELT better flipped? Or can't your OCD handle it

No, it did not feel better.  If anything it felt worse.

I might have tried to get used to it for a while (I tried for about half an hour), but seeing the keyboard with a flipped space bar triggered me.

[iLLucionist]

Haha. Well.. I really need to flip dem bars. Not because off them looks or to show off but because I genuinely like it more. I'm gonna get hate for this... Impending doom in 1..2..

I tried it once, flipped a space bar on an MX keyboard.  It felt weird, and looked really off (kinda set off my OCD), so I flipped it back and felt better ever since.

I can imagine.. but didn't you think it FELT better flipped? Or can't your OCD handle it

No, it did not feel better.  If anything it felt worse.

I might have tried to get used to it for a while (I tried for about half an hour), but seeing the keyboard with a flipped space bar triggered me.

Good thing you flipped it back then! For me, it depends on how low the front-end of the bar is when pushed down. On my HHKB, when I push down the flipped spacebar it is as low as my case, which is really annoying because I'm tapping on my case every time I hit space, which basically defeats the purpose of flipping.

[rowdy]

Haha. Well.. I really need to flip dem bars. Not because off them looks or to show off but because I genuinely like it more. I'm gonna get hate for this... Impending doom in 1..2..

I tried it once, flipped a space bar on an MX keyboard.  It felt weird, and looked really off (kinda set off my OCD), so I flipped it back and felt better ever since.

I can imagine.. but didn't you think it FELT better flipped? Or can't your OCD handle it

No, it did not feel better.  If anything it felt worse.

I might have tried to get used to it for a while (I tried for about half an hour), but seeing the keyboard with a flipped space bar triggered me.

Good thing you flipped it back then! For me, it depends on how low the front-end of the bar is when pushed down. On my HHKB, when I push down the flipped spacebar it is as low as my case, which is really annoying because I'm tapping on my case every time I hit space, which basically defeats the purpose of flipping.

Time to flip it back

[mrlooolz]

I have tiny hands and on day one of adopting my first MK i went with flipped bar. I like it and it works well with my typing  and gaming style

[childofthehorn]

I have short fingers and the flipped spacebar means that I never hit a hard edge. But honestly i think that the domed spacebar style of a SA row 3 profile spacebar is about ideal if it came in many heights. All my SA sets I have tried to find the matching spacebar in Row 3 profile.

flipped spacebars are FTW for those of us with short fingers (i.e. like a girl...cus I am one).

[cozmonort]

I never considered flipping my spacebar, as I only game and don't really do a heap of typing... but I recently got a bro set and that profile really feels better flipped.. pretty sure it's DCS. With my OEM Miami I never really felt the need, but I've flipped the DCS.

[iLLucionist]

Time to flip it back

NEVAH! Except for on the HHKB.

[MasterZebra]

I want to try flipping to see what the hype is about but I am afraid I will do it and won't want to go back. The peer pressure!

[rowdy]

I want to try flipping to see what the hype is about but I am afraid I will do it and won't want to go back. The peer pressure!

Don't do it!

Keep the keyboard as the great manufacturer intended!

Have you EVER seen a keyboard shipped from the factory with the space bar flipped?

[xtrafrood]

I want to try flipping to see what the hype is about but I am afraid I will do it and won't want to go back. The peer pressure!

Don't do it!

Keep the keyboard as the great manufacturer intended!

Have you EVER seen a keyboard shipped from the factory with the space bar flipped?

This is how I imagined it would look.

[AgentZen]

I just bought my first cherry profile keyset a few weeks ago. The first thing I did was put the spacebar on backwards. I don't even know what it feels like to have set up the right way. You can hate me if you want, but it doesn't make a difference to me. Keysus loves me just the way I am.

[rowdy]

I just bought my first cherry profile keyset a few weeks ago. The first thing I did was put the spacebar on backwards. I don't even know what it feels like to have set up the right way. You can hate me if you want, but it doesn't make a difference to me. Keysus loves me just the way I am.

[Anole]

i personally find a flipped spacebar to be more ergonomic. But to each their own.

[ThoughtArtist]

i personally find a flipped spacebar to be more ergonomic. But to each their own.

If you are typing "properly" then your hands should be above the keyboard, not down in front.

That being said, I've now got my spacebar (and left alt) flipped on my Varmilo, since I primarly use it for gaming.

But for my "work" keyboards, no way.

[ThoughtArtist]

the angle of the space bar makes a better contact with the side of my thumbs.

My wrists are almost parallel with my keyboard when I type and I still flip my spacebar. The way my thumb lays on a normal spacebar has the edge hitting my thumb. The thunk is also more satisfying when flipped.

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No, no, no. Look what happened when I tried that. DON'T DO IT!

[ThoughtArtist]

Save your thumbs!

[rowdy]

Save your thumbs!

Save your sanity!

[ThoughtArtist]

Save your thumbs!

Save your sanity!

I'm an insane hypocrite. MWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[rowdy]

Save your thumbs!

Save your sanity!

I'm an insane hypocrite. MWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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And look, you've only gone and flipped Alt too

[JigsawSaint]

Just... no to flipping. 

Can we bring back the burning people at the stake for things like this?  And if so, can we reassign their keyboards to happy, less abusive homes after?

[dunglefinker]

Personally, I flipped all my spacebars on my MX board, but on my Topre board it just feels...WRONG