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Title: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 27 April 2024, 16:04:57
Finally updated to dat 7900xtx since the price dip.

It's ridiculous, also the power consumption.


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Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 27 April 2024, 16:24:37
"Getting" ? ;-þ
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 27 April 2024, 16:37:00
They've always been too big?

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Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 27 April 2024, 18:59:18
My gpu barely fit in the case when I built it. idk if that's just been a recent problem, since this was the first pc that I ever had.
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: chyros on Sun, 28 April 2024, 02:35:56
Bah, you are weak, tp4!

Fished the GPU out of my 1984 IBM 5155 recently, look at this one!

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And tis is from the then-equivalent of a laptop, remember xD .
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Sun, 28 April 2024, 11:29:11
GPU is too big. I have a 3080 and I have to remove my fans to remove the GPU because I opted for a cube case to save desk space. My 1070ti looks like a toy compared to it.
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 28 April 2024, 11:40:52
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Old-skool has defeated the Tp4.
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Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: chyros on Mon, 29 April 2024, 03:00:32
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Old-skool has defeated the Tp4.
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Capable of 320 x 200 resolution in four colours simultaneously, or 160 x 100 in a glorious 16 colours!
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 29 April 2024, 05:36:47
Capable of 320 x 200 resolution in four colours simultaneously, or 160 x 100 in a glorious 16 colours!

Back then the colours actually meant' something.

Nowadays, they advertise the 12bit colors, 4096 shades per channel, but in reality, we're barely breaking 10bit depending on luminance.
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Mon, 29 April 2024, 08:26:01
Capable of 320 x 200 resolution in four colours simultaneously, or 160 x 100 in a glorious 16 colours!

Back then the colours actually meant' something.

Nowadays, they advertise the 12bit colors, 4096 shades per channel, but in reality, we're barely breaking 10bit depending on luminance.


How much is the average person missing out by not calibrating their monitors/TVs?
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 29 April 2024, 09:56:49
Capable of 320 x 200 resolution in four colours simultaneously, or 160 x 100 in a glorious 16 colours!

Back then the colours actually meant' something.

Nowadays, they advertise the 12bit colors, 4096 shades per channel, but in reality, we're barely breaking 10bit depending on luminance.


How much is the average person missing out by not calibrating their monitors/TVs?
a LOT. i remember i spent like 2 hours calibrating my living room tv to be perfect (or as close as it could get) and then like a month later i noticed that it looked awful. i asked my dad (color blind and also eyesight degradation) and he said "it looked weird so i changed it" i was like  :'(

i also noticed that Gran Turismo looked weird and i went to the PS5 hdr settings and they were completely default, this dude bought a 4k HDR tv and didn't even properly set up HDR on the PS5
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 29 April 2024, 18:13:40
GPUs aren't too big; coolers are too big. In trying to push performance, they're also pushing voltage and therefore heat
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 29 April 2024, 19:54:49
Sitting here, pants all wet, Tp4 refusing to turn on the AC.

With 77 inch oled (150w), 7900xtx (350w), (7800x3d, 50w) this room is 87 degrees.

If we turn on the window midea-u AC for this room, all together that's 1-Kilowatt an hour just to play video-games.


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Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: Sniping on Tue, 30 April 2024, 12:48:04
Sitting here, pants all wet, Tp4 refusing to turn on the AC.

With 77 inch oled (150w), 7900xtx (350w), (7800x3d, 50w) this room is 87 degrees.

If we turn on the window midea-u AC for this room, all together that's 1-Kilowatt an hour just to play video-games.


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kinda sad how much less efficient gaming pc's are compared to consoles. consoles come in at an attractive price, all the games are well optimized, power consumption and noise levels are reasonable. are you considering the new oled gaming monitors?
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 April 2024, 16:02:19
are you considering the new oled gaming monitors?

Not at this point. I ask myself, what does 360hz480hz actually do. Motion clarity, ok, what's that for, to optimize the "play" of yet another "competitive" murder simulator. Tp4 has aged out of murder simulators for a while now, kekeke.

Relative to big panels, the drawback is sustained brightness, monitor sizes do not have the surface area to dissipate the heat, so they sustain peak highlights for much shorter durations before monitor ABL knocks it down.  This is fine for the most part, but if you watch alot of HDR movies / tv shows, the TV can cast more light and hold it.

If you're buying ANY monitor right now, get the QD-OLED, but if you got the room to yourself, and you're not obsessive about murder-simulators, Tp4 recommends 77" for better multi-use adaptability.  At current prices, IPS doesn't make much sense.

LG WRGB OLED is fine if you think you can use and drive the 480hz, but most people will probably be happier with better colors on the Samsung QD-OLED at 360hz.

Finally, undeniable advantage for monitors, Tp4 really likes curved, and you can't find it in large tvs anymore. Curved is better, not an opinion, it's a fact. You can see more of the monitor in visual focus without moving your eye,  Curved = Superior.  The human visual acuity field is very narrow, every little bit helps.

Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: Sniping on Tue, 30 April 2024, 16:43:35
are you considering the new oled gaming monitors?

Not at this point. I ask myself, what does 360hz480hz actually do. Motion clarity, ok, what's that for, to optimize the "play" of yet another "competitive" murder simulator. Tp4 has aged out of murder simulators for a while now, kekeke.

Relative to big panels, the drawback is sustained brightness, monitor sizes do not have the surface area to dissipate the heat, so they sustain peak highlights for much shorter durations before monitor ABL knocks it down.  This is fine for the most part, but if you watch alot of HDR movies / tv shows, the TV can cast more light and hold it.

If you're buying ANY monitor right now, get the QD-OLED, but if you got the room to yourself, and you're not obsessive about murder-simulators, Tp4 recommends 77" for better multi-use adaptability.  At current prices, IPS doesn't make much sense.

LG WRGB OLED is fine if you think you can use and drive the 480hz, but most people will probably be happier with better colors on the Samsung QD-OLED at 360hz.

Finally, undeniable advantage for monitors, Tp4 really likes curved, and you can't find it in large tvs anymore. Curved is better, not an opinion, it's a fact. You can see more of the monitor in visual focus without moving your eye,  Curved = Superior.  The human visual acuity field is very narrow, every little bit helps.



all great points, i'm also not gaming too much these days and kind of feel like I should have gone with a larger screen than the 42" than I have right now. the new qd oled 32" panels are all looking quite attractive with all the features offered though, and I'm really surprised that some of them, like the MSI 32 URX is coming in at under $1000. one thing I don't love is about oled's is that buying used is pretty shaky with burn in/abuse risk, so buying new is the most sensible choice. gets so expensive though..
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 April 2024, 17:05:38
The 77 inch s90c samsung qd-oled is $2000 at Costco w/ 5 year warranty and $150 shop card bonus. So, effectively $1850.

That is 5.76 x 32" monitors, the 77 inch is a way better deal.

Samsung oled prices, might go up in a year or 2 because they know they've got the best technology at this point. The current low price is there just to squeeze LG.

Buhh... If TCL makes good on JOLED, which they will. We can see $1400- 77 oled inchers.
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 01 May 2024, 12:02:02
Went an' touched the GPU, Jesus, It's burning to the touch.
Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 05 May 2024, 14:22:58
This GPU allows sustained draw of 430watts? This is obscene.

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Title: Re: GPU getting too big
Post by: phinix on Wed, 08 May 2024, 04:30:50
tp, show us some photo of your OLED and Frostpunk on it :)