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Title: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:31:49
Group Buy thread is live here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111527)

Last IC Update: GB has had to be delayed by one week to March 8th (March 15th for ilum) - GB thread coming as soon as I can confirm regional pricing

Edit notes:

(https://i.imgur.com/T1ck7qG.jpg)
Photo credit @thinkwer (https://www.instagram.com/thinkkwer/)

Hello,

Angel is a “pin-mount” seamless 65% keyboard. It follows the design language/mount system of the Prophet exactly but in a different form factor. Here are some links to further details about prophet

 Prophet IC Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104294)
 Prophet GB Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105670)

The aim of this mount style is to create a nice consistent type feel and sound profile and with the proto round I have had excellent feedback about this and I am pleased with the results.

The following demonstrates how the mounting system works:
(https://imgur.com/vrAo7pu.png)(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/393396388282761219/668551342637318164/v3v27.gif)

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there is no pressure from the top half of the case on the plate. There are 4 pins in the corners of the base that hold the plate in place and it rests on the lip of the base. The theory is that the lack of downward pressure allows the plate more freedom of movement towards the center whilst still retaining an even pressure around the edge of the board

It will be manufactured from Aluminium and finished in 3 colours. The current plan is for e-black, silver and 1 undecided colour though this is subject to change

It includes a custom PCB designed by me that supports ISO/ANSI layouts.

The tops will be in WKL or Standard (WK) (both have 0.5u arrow blocker)

Plate materials will be: POM or Polypropylene. ISO plates will likely be made available in a single material only - this depends on sales figures and will be the more popular material. Plate files will be released so you can make/modify your own as you like.

The current target price is $375 though this is subject to change. This will include at least 1 plate and PCB. Final pricing for the group buy will be set when I get a better idea of what quantity is expected to sell in total

The current target timeline is to open March 1st for 2 weeks. Shipping should then take place in October. This is still subject to change as I try to arrange everything with the vendors

Current projected MOQ of 100, no upper limit. Each different top has an MOQ of 50. Extra tops will be considered based on the feedback to this IC

Additional plates and PCBs will be available during the group buy stage though there is no pricing currently available for this.

Vendor table as it stands (will be updated on any further confirmations)

RegionRetailer & Link
Europemykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/)
USCannon Keys (https://cannonkeys.com/)
SEAiLumkb (https://ilumkb.com/)
UKKeebCats (https://keebcats.co.uk/)
CanadaApexKeyboards (https://www.apexkeyboards.ca/)
IndonesiaPluskb (https://discord.gg/DAW2JFXmTj)
   

If you would like to act as a proxy for your region please feel free to get in touch with me using the contact methods below:

If you have any questions or comments about the case/pcb/buy structure please ask here or by any of these contact methods: Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/user/amthe), Geekhack (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110729.0), email: max@cablecardesigns.co, discord (https://discord.gg/5GHFAtb).

Here is an extremely sexy set of photos by the extremely sexy @thinkkwer (https://www.instagram.com/thinkkwer/):
Album on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/EL0D5Io)

VOD of a build stream that was hosted by The International Kit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1YPqBAU16I)
Typing video by Poesjuh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_wRd-qgDF4)


Thank you for your time

Max

(https://i.imgur.com/hu8XJDw.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: bananathock on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:34:17
Hello max, I love you. Angel, gib! Mwah! Always stay handsome!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:34:35
This is it chief!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Scottw on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:36:22
I love my Prophet and looking forward to adding Angle to the family. 
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: gilbert on Mon, 18 January 2021, 06:38:10
nice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: SolidCactus on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:04:43
Looks great! Any chance of a WK top at all?
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: dmatx1 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:16:18
Quote from: SolidCactus on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:04:43
Looks great! Any chance of a WK top at all?
standard top = WK top
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: eddieboyemo on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:18:13
your animation seems to have a 1u arrow blocker
but so keen for this board nonetheless!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Bamboo238 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:01:59
Nice to see this Max! I have been following the developments closely and I'm happy to see this hitting IC!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: SolidCactus on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:05:37
Quote from: dmatx1 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:16:18
Quote from: SolidCactus on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:04:43
Looks great! Any chance of a WK top at all?
standard top = WK top

Apologies I had missed that! Great news!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:08:19
A... A 65% Prophet? Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:14:44
Quote from: SolidCactus on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:04:43
Looks great! Any chance of a WK top at all?

Yes! The proto run was only made in WKL to save some costs
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: question Mark on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:16:51
Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: mou$e on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:54:23
Definitely getting one to accompany my Prophet  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Zaprey on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:55:25
i love prophet so this is great to see!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:13:15
My name is treeleaf and I am approving
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: chriszhu on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:29:09
Yes 👍
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: kyuut on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:34:20
Angel's looking great
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: aadk5 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:39:24
Quote from: eddieboyemo on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:18:13
your animation seems to have a 1u arrow blocker
but so keen for this board nonetheless!

That animation is actually the Prophet, the 60% version of the board, with a WKL top

Excited to see this go live Max!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:44:50
Quote from: aadk5 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:39:24
Quote from: eddieboyemo on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:18:13
your animation seems to have a 1u arrow blocker
but so keen for this board nonetheless!

That animation is actually the Prophet, the 60% version of the board, with a WKL top

Excited to see this go live Max!

missed this sorry! Yes the animation is just reused from Prophet but the construction is identical  :thumb:

Quote from: kyuut on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:34:20
Angel's looking great

no you
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Rew23 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 09:50:31
Prophet is an absolute dream. Super excited for Angel, it looks wonderful.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: davisthegreat on Mon, 18 January 2021, 12:55:27
yes. please and thank you
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: hkiri on Mon, 18 January 2021, 13:00:27
Seeing the Angel in silver makes me sad that the Prophet wasn't offered in silver  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: lovidore on Mon, 18 January 2021, 13:16:24
Oh yeah, baby. In.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: 002_GT on Mon, 18 January 2021, 13:55:44
when is the tkl version coming 👀
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 18 January 2021, 14:06:02
I just wanna say the Prophet is the best board I've built in like 3 years.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Ustinj on Mon, 18 January 2021, 15:34:53
gamer move, GLWGB! my prophet comes today!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Obstsalatjaa on Mon, 18 January 2021, 15:58:45
Funny how everyone mentions Prophet in the IC of Angel :D
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 20:07:48
Quote from: Obstsalatjaa on Mon, 18 January 2021, 15:58:45
Funny how everyone mentions Prophet in the IC of Angel :D

This is treeleaf.

Everyone mentions it to show how much they liked it or are enjoying it. This is to pay homage to the original design. I think people are getting hyped on  this Angel thing

I dont know if I want one or not   :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: adamjohari on Mon, 18 January 2021, 22:35:46
So going to buy this. Just name your price!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Tue, 19 January 2021, 03:03:16
Quote from: Vigrith on Mon, 18 January 2021, 14:06:02
I just wanna say the Prophet is the best board I've built in like 3 years.

Thanks for the kind words  :thumb:

Quote from: 002_GT on Mon, 18 January 2021, 13:55:44
when is the tkl version coming 👀

I have had a few conversations about this and I think for a TKL version to work it would need more complex internals. The advantage you get with the smaller form factors is the midpoint is pretty much the midpoint of the alphas - for a TKL it would be somewhere around the P key. Not saying never but would need a lot of testing to get it right.

Quote from: Obstsalatjaa on Mon, 18 January 2021, 15:58:45
Funny how everyone mentions Prophet in the IC of Angel :D

Prophet is shipping out now and the construction is the same so I can see why!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Convergence on Tue, 19 January 2021, 13:26:51
Fascinating. I was definitely interested in the Prophet but couldn't imagine going smaller than 65%, this has my attention.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: androo on Tue, 19 January 2021, 21:41:20
heckyeah!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: deedz on Wed, 20 January 2021, 00:04:05
For us NA proxy people, the prophet was capped at only 150 units last time through cannon keys. Wondering if there is going to be a similar cap again?

Love the design :)
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Fe on Wed, 20 January 2021, 03:23:14
Very nice
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: JCraftCables on Wed, 20 January 2021, 05:31:12
Nice and clean :)
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: gavingoh on Wed, 20 January 2021, 11:32:16
sign me up :P
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: upas on Wed, 20 January 2021, 12:16:39
Quote from: deedz on Wed, 20 January 2021, 00:04:05
For us NA proxy people, the prophet was capped at only 150 units last time through cannon keys. Wondering if there is going to be a similar cap again?

Love the design :)

There will be a cap, probably higher than 150 this time.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Bradynn on Wed, 20 January 2021, 23:38:58
THIS is the board I need. Board so nice I came out of my lurking shadows to comment.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: gavingoh on Thu, 21 January 2021, 03:15:29
Hope we can get additional top cases! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Thu, 21 January 2021, 11:54:55
Getting rdy to yeet 375$ out of my wallet :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: flyinggbuddha on Thu, 21 January 2021, 12:02:42
Nice and clean. Very interested in the mount design as I've never tried one of these before. Will try my best to nab one of these when it comes out.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: i luv chuletas on Thu, 21 January 2021, 14:05:26
Quote from: upas on Wed, 20 January 2021, 12:16:39
Quote from: deedz on Wed, 20 January 2021, 00:04:05
For us NA proxy people, the prophet was capped at only 150 units last time through cannon keys. Wondering if there is going to be a similar cap again?

Love the design :)

There will be a cap, probably higher than 150 this time.

So if the overall GB is unlimited, will NA not be region locked to other vendors?
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Fri, 22 January 2021, 03:39:56
Quote from: i luv chuletas on Thu, 21 January 2021, 14:05:26
Quote from: upas on Wed, 20 January 2021, 12:16:39
Quote from: deedz on Wed, 20 January 2021, 00:04:05
For us NA proxy people, the prophet was capped at only 150 units last time through cannon keys. Wondering if there is going to be a similar cap again?

Love the design :)

There will be a cap, probably higher than 150 this time.

So if the overall GB is unlimited, will NA not be region locked to other vendors?

So if/when Cannon Keys is out you can purchase from any other vendor (currently no caps set elsewhere)
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: wawa on Fri, 22 January 2021, 14:52:41
Very excited for this. Why not a nylon plate option like there was for Prophet?
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Sat, 23 January 2021, 14:33:34
Quote from: pott on Fri, 22 January 2021, 16:20:02
Very much so! I'm still a little worried about that Nylon plate; it pulls on the PCB's extremities a lot. This is a HS build so it's ok, but on a soldered PCB I'd worry a little. I'm letting it stretch though it has been a week so...

Quote from: wawa on Fri, 22 January 2021, 14:52:41
Very excited for this. Why not a nylon plate option like there was for Prophet?

I love Nylon as a plate material in pin mount - however there are currently multiple reports of issues with the nylon plates that went out with prophet and I am concerned about having a high failure rate/high return rate.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: zoo on Sun, 24 January 2021, 09:56:14
so ready for this~
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: TheMilkmen on Sun, 24 January 2021, 13:52:38
Been coming back to look at this IC for the past few days, and really looking forward to this board.

I have no idea if I will be able to get in on this one though I will very much try to get in, innovation like this (and the Prophet) are always a great thing to add to this hobby.
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Tue, 26 January 2021, 07:15:10
Quote from: TheMilkmen on Sun, 24 January 2021, 13:52:38
Been coming back to look at this IC for the past few days, and really looking forward to this board.

I have no idea if I will be able to get in on this one though I will very much try to get in, innovation like this (and the Prophet) are always a great thing to add to this hobby.

Thanks for saying so!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: Rx003 on Wed, 27 January 2021, 01:06:15
Looking forward to this one! Great IC!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: pocketfresh on Thu, 18 February 2021, 11:35:28
just found this IC.

This checks a lot of boxes for me.  POM/PP plate material. E-Black. I guess I don't have that many boxes.  Hype either way
Title: Re: [IC] Angel (Pin Mount 65% Keyboard)
Post by: westfoxtrot on Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:19:39
Group Buy thread is now live

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111527