Just blanks? I dont get it.
Do you have plan for Cherry or KAT?
Damn, not sure how I feel about the way the kitting ended up, but that might just be because of how I plan on using them.
Also (and I feel like this needs to be acknowledged, for my own sanity); am I the only one that considers a goddamn 9u-Spacebar the LEAST "namely" or relatable keycap someone could possibly use as the only real-life advertisement sample?
Damn, not sure how I feel about the way the kitting ended up, but that might just be because of how I plan on using them.
Also (and I feel like this needs to be acknowledged, for my own sanity); am I the only one that considers a goddamn 9u-Spacebar the LEAST "namely" or relatable keycap someone could possibly use as the only real-life advertisement sample?
Yeah agreed on a few of your points. The kitting does feel very restrictive - however, I guess that was what was needed to get the prices where they are?
Anyway, I'm in already because I'm excited to try something with this set, but yeah I would love to have seen a sample of a 1u key.
Edit: I also didn't realise that £ would be the same as $ - imagined the pricing would be a little lower in GBP but I guess taxes/import costs?
All kits ordered. Hope these look as well finished in RL as they do in the renders.
Thoughts on polishing these guys to shine and clear them up?
based on the sample pics they're probably gonna be pretty shiny and smooth out of the box
Awesome pricing and turnaround time. I'm in soon.
Thanks for getting me a sale Puddsy ;D
based on the sample pics they're probably gonna be pretty shiny and smooth out of the box
Yeah I'm in
Not a particular SA fan but these look great! :thumb:
Picked up DCS clear from pimpmykeyboard, and I gotta say, I see why you didn't post samples of any 1u caps. The double shot moulds don't look very smooth underneath the top surface heh. Pretty renders though.
I was honestly worried due to GMK IC not going as planned, but the protos for this looks super clean!
I registered here to write this - I've never liked clear plastic, but something with these intrigues me.
So much that I just orded a full set! ;D
looking forward to seeing all the builds!Yea, me too :)
looking forward to seeing all the builds!Yea, me too :)
Do you know if we have reached MOQ yet?
i'm going for Mod set, can't imagine myself use all clear keycaps yet :D
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jPNuTln.jpg)
If anyone is wondering about clarity, the SA Relegendables are the same material/process for this, Polyclear will be the same except with a stem.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jPNuTln.jpg)
If anyone is wondering about clarity, the SA Relegendables are the same material/process for this, Polyclear will be the same except with a stem.
gorgeous. thanks for sharing
Is there a reason why you went SA profile and are you thinking of maybe in the future run different profiles? I know SA it's not for everyone since it's a much higher typing experience and some people hate it for games for example.
I'm on the edge, I'm too used to cherry profile and I don't want to spend 100€ to hate them, but I like how they look on the Ikki.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jPNuTln.jpg)
If anyone is wondering about clarity, the SA Relegendables are the same material/process for this, Polyclear will be the same except with a stem.
I got in!
joined. In the future, how about GMK or ePBT Polyclear?
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jPNuTln.jpg)
If anyone is wondering about clarity, the SA Relegendables are the same material/process for this, Polyclear will be the same except with a stem.
This is the first GB I join, so sorry if I ask something stupid here...It depends on the runner (some are more transparent than others), but ideally there should be updates based on specific milestones.
What is the process now that the GB is closed?
Will there be no more updates here until suddenly one day next year I get a shipment with my caps, or will we get some updates on when production have started and such?
I'm just curious how these things are usually handled :-)
This is the first GB I join, so sorry if I ask something stupid here...
What is the process now that the GB is closed?
Will there be no more updates here until suddenly one day next year I get a shipment with my caps, or will we get some updates on when production have started and such?
I'm just curious how these things are usually handled :-)
Do you have any more protos besides the spacebar? The marks are concerning
Just a quick update to say that there's no real updates I spoke with SP recently and we're still on track for a Q4 delivery time though anything more specific hasn't been provided.
I have not received mine yet but going by the pictures they are nothing like the renders. They were supposed to be clear, polished and glass like. This is unfortunate.
You all should have known they'd look like this based on the sample spacebar. I literally told you in the interest check they would be full of lines. It's your fault for not reading every comment of the thread and getting an accurate estimate based on comments. Like how I mentioned the DCS version of this keyset is literally available right now, and looks exactly the same. You should have known. Or not bought. The renders should have been your first sign. The complete lack of 1u samples should have been the second thing that made you think twice. My comment saying the renders are bull**** should have solidified your opinion. But you purchased anyway. You don't get to complain.
You all should have known they'd look like this based on the sample spacebar. I literally told you in the interest check they would be full of lines. It's your fault for not reading every comment of the thread and getting an accurate estimate based on comments. Like how I mentioned the DCS version of this keyset is literally available right now, and looks exactly the same. You should have known. Or not bought. The renders should have been your first sign. The complete lack of 1u samples should have been the second thing that made you think twice. My comment saying the renders are bull**** should have solidified your opinion. But you purchased anyway. You don't get to complain.
Please sir this is a Wendy's.
You all should have known they'd look like this based on the sample spacebar. I literally told you in the interest check they would be full of lines. It's your fault for not reading every comment of the thread and getting an accurate estimate based on comments. Like how I mentioned the DCS version of this keyset is literally available right now, and looks exactly the same. You should have known. Or not bought. The renders should have been your first sign. The complete lack of 1u samples should have been the second thing that made you think twice. My comment saying the renders are bull**** should have solidified your opinion. But you purchased anyway. You don't get to complain.Please sir this is a Wendy's.
Lol that's not how you use that saying.
You all should have known they'd look like this based on the sample spacebar. I literally told you in the interest check they would be full of lines. It's your fault for not reading every comment of the thread and getting an accurate estimate based on comments. Like how I mentioned the DCS version of this keyset is literally available right now, and looks exactly the same. You should have known. Or not bought. The renders should have been your first sign. The complete lack of 1u samples should have been the second thing that made you think twice. My comment saying the renders are bull**** should have solidified your opinion. But you purchased anyway. You don't get to complain.Please sir this is a Wendy's.
Lol that's not how you use that saying.
I'm out of touch. It's unfortunate that the keycaps didn't meet people expectations. I think the cloudiness was obvious given the samples and other examples from Signature Plastics, however the numbers/letters on the underside of keys is kind of inexcusable.
Not my correspondence but seemed worth posting here.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/f94mc9R.png)
I have not received mine yet but going by the pictures they are nothing like the renders. They were supposed to be clear, polished and glass like. This is unfortunate.
Lol it was never gonna look like the render.
Would it be rude of me to ask if you have the link for those caps >.>I have not received mine yet but going by the pictures they are nothing like the renders. They were supposed to be clear, polished and glass like. This is unfortunate.
Lol it was never gonna look like the render.Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/zDFWLGv0/D4968478-1-DFC-464-C-A376-15654-B410-CC4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/B6yzHBmf/E9-F1457-A-F013-4-DE9-8716-E7-ACDA33-E1-B1.jpg)
Here are some photos from a reddit post comparing the cheap Chinese caps to SA Polyclear. Everyone absolutely has a right to complain with this outcome, especially when keycaps that meet expectations already exist.
Would it be rude of me to ask if you have the link for those caps >.>I have not received mine yet but going by the pictures they are nothing like the renders. They were supposed to be clear, polished and glass like. This is unfortunate.
Lol it was never gonna look like the render.Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/zDFWLGv0/D4968478-1-DFC-464-C-A376-15654-B410-CC4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/B6yzHBmf/E9-F1457-A-F013-4-DE9-8716-E7-ACDA33-E1-B1.jpg)
Here are some photos from a reddit post comparing the cheap Chinese caps to SA Polyclear. Everyone absolutely has a right to complain with this outcome, especially when keycaps that meet expectations already exist.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jPNuTln.jpg)
If anyone is wondering about clarity, the SA Relegendables are the same material/process for this, Polyclear will be the same except with a stem.
South Korea has some of the best customer protection laws. I am not surprised you got offered a refund.
I entered SA polyclear GB through the vendor 'Swagkey', the korean vendor. They asked me and other buyers like 'wanna receive or wanna refund?' with the pictures of product received from Signature Plastics. I answered I wanna refund and finally they refunded me.
I'm absolutely aware that Swagkey has suffered a loss from this refund, but maybe they earn the trust of buyers.
I'm not sure what's right, but it doesn't seem right to put the blame only on buyers. I think vendors and Achromous and SP should talk about it.
It may be necessary to decentralize responsibility.
I entered SA polyclear GB through the vendor 'Swagkey', the korean vendor. They asked me and other buyers like 'wanna receive or wanna refund?' with the pictures of product received from Signature Plastics. I answered I wanna refund and finally they refunded me.
I'm absolutely aware that Swagkey has suffered a loss from this refund, but maybe they earn the trust of buyers.
I'm not sure what's right, but it doesn't seem right to put the blame only on buyers. I think vendors and Achromous and SP should talk about it.
It may be necessary to decentralize responsibility.
Swagkey did the right thing. This is clearly not SA Poly'Clear' but Poly'Frost'! Vala Supply just went ahead and shipped the inferior products...
Kinda unfair to blame Vala for this isn't it? Shouldn't the manufacturer have never shipped the inferior product to Vala?
I bought these and unfortunately they are very disappointing. I am primarily disappointed in the lack of uniformity across the keys in terms of the clarity. I can understand people being frustrated by the tooling marks and the designer should've conveyed the possibility of this aspect better, but personally I could overlook that to some extent if the keys were clear across the board. They are not and that is on the manufacturer in my opinion. If they could not provide a uniform run they should've made this known and frankly, just canceled the group buy rather than producing something that is simply unacceptable. And I have seen where folks in this thread have said "these were never going to look like the renders." Yes, I get that, but some rows look acceptably close, while others almost look like they should belong to a different set altogether. I'm not sure if the issue was with the material or the molds, but in both cases that falls to the manufacturer to diagnose and correct.
I entered SA polyclear GB through the vendor 'Swagkey', the korean vendor. They asked me and other buyers like 'wanna receive or wanna refund?' with the pictures of product received from Signature Plastics. I answered I wanna refund and finally they refunded me.
I'm absolutely aware that Swagkey has suffered a loss from this refund, but maybe they earn the trust of buyers.
I'm not sure what's right, but it doesn't seem right to put the blame only on buyers. I think vendors and Achromous and SP should talk about it.
It may be necessary to decentralize responsibility.
Swagkey did the right thing. This is clearly not SA Poly'Clear' but Poly'Frost'! Vala Supply just went ahead and shipped the inferior products...
Kinda unfair to blame Vala for this isn't it? Shouldn't the manufacturer have never shipped the inferior product to Vala?
I bought these and unfortunately they are very disappointing. I am primarily disappointed in the lack of uniformity across the keys in terms of the clarity. I can understand people being frustrated by the tooling marks and the designer should've conveyed the possibility of this aspect better, but personally I could overlook that to some extent if the keys were clear across the board. They are not and that is on the manufacturer in my opinion. If they could not provide a uniform run they should've made this known and frankly, just canceled the group buy rather than producing something that is simply unacceptable. And I have seen where folks in this thread have said "these were never going to look like the renders." Yes, I get that, but some rows look acceptably close, while others almost look like they should belong to a different set altogether. I'm not sure if the issue was with the material or the molds, but in both cases that falls to the manufacturer to diagnose and correct.
I entered SA polyclear GB through the vendor 'Swagkey', the korean vendor. They asked me and other buyers like 'wanna receive or wanna refund?' with the pictures of product received from Signature Plastics. I answered I wanna refund and finally they refunded me.
I'm absolutely aware that Swagkey has suffered a loss from this refund, but maybe they earn the trust of buyers.
I'm not sure what's right, but it doesn't seem right to put the blame only on buyers. I think vendors and Achromous and SP should talk about it.
It may be necessary to decentralize responsibility.
Swagkey did the right thing. This is clearly not SA Poly'Clear' but Poly'Frost'! Vala Supply just went ahead and shipped the inferior products...
Kinda unfair to blame Vala for this isn't it? Shouldn't the manufacturer have never shipped the inferior product to Vala?
I bought these and unfortunately they are very disappointing. I am primarily disappointed in the lack of uniformity across the keys in terms of the clarity. I can understand people being frustrated by the tooling marks and the designer should've conveyed the possibility of this aspect better, but personally I could overlook that to some extent if the keys were clear across the board. They are not and that is on the manufacturer in my opinion. If they could not provide a uniform run they should've made this known and frankly, just canceled the group buy rather than producing something that is simply unacceptable. And I have seen where folks in this thread have said "these were never going to look like the renders." Yes, I get that, but some rows look acceptably close, while others almost look like they should belong to a different set altogether. I'm not sure if the issue was with the material or the molds, but in both cases that falls to the manufacturer to diagnose and correct.
I was not blaming Vala for the outcome. I was clearly referring to the handling of the situation compare to Swagkey. One could say that Vala just wanted to get them out to the customers asap without knowing the issue. But that's kinda their responsibility to make sure they are shipping the right products to the customers.same thing happened with MW Demon girl and mykeyboard.eu: set is scratched, scuffed and severely color mismatched abd they just shipped it without batting an eye. bolsa (lead vendor) is entirely remaking them. what you gonna do, lesson learned
Is there anyone who has recieved information from European vendors for when the keycaps will be shipped? It's getting worrying now. Some have recieved their sets. I don't even have an update from Candykeys.
Anyone heard from the main designer?
No Esc website now says that they are temporarily closed with no set return date. Seems like the guy may have done a runner.
Has anyone actually received an email back from him regarding refunds or anything of the sort?
I am not responsible for other vendors actions when it comes to returning/refunding or responding to emails, but at least to my knowledge all of the vendors have honoured their refund policy outlined on their respective sites.