Author Topic: [IC] GMK Muted 2  (Read 135321 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline HappyB0T

  • Posts: 435
  • Location: Midwest, USA
  • I'm a Piggie
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #400 on: Tue, 15 December 2020, 21:33:40 »
Please put mod tilde in one of the kits.  Its an accent corner key for split backspace.  If we are trying to streamline kits then we certainly don't need 5 capslock keys and an extra 'b' in the basekit.  Put some of that stuff plus mod tilde in the extension kit.

Round 1 of this having more options than round 2... seems backwards.  Expanding compatibility instead of removing it seems better.

Mod tilde and pipe have been in almost every kit for years because people wanted them.  Really disappointing to see regression like this.

Well stated - I totally agree with you. It seems like they are not going to budge - the best way to vote is to not buy.

Offline konstantin

  • Formerly constexpr
  • Posts: 1756
  • Location: Serbia
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #401 on: Tue, 15 December 2020, 21:36:08 »
can we... put the stepped Capslock to rest? I'm biased because I don't use that key but: removing that key wouldn't hurt sale that much, right?

Not a good idea. Lots of people use it.

Offline bansheetango

  • Posts: 55
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #402 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 05:55:31 »
NK65 Olivia Edition. Please take note of the pipe color. :D

258070-0
« Last Edit: Wed, 16 December 2020, 05:57:53 by bansheetango »

Offline Domantas

  • Posts: 200
  • Location: Lithuania
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #403 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 18:44:06 »
Nice set, but why no windows key ? I wanted windows key just because it was in og one
« Last Edit: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:00:45 by Domantas »

Offline lakeboredom

  • Posts: 428
  • Location: Bay Area California
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #404 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 19:54:46 »
NK65 Olivia Edition. Please take note of the pipe color. :D

(Attachment Link)
Points for effort, but that example is awful. Whoever chose mod colored pipe for that board was clearly dropped on their head as a baby. People with a modicum of taste won't be using mod colored pipe on a 60/65 in ansi layout.

Offline Domantas

  • Posts: 200
  • Location: Lithuania
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #405 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:00:06 »
Nice set, but why no windows key ? I wanted windows key just because it was in og one

Offline lakeboredom

  • Posts: 428
  • Location: Bay Area California
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #406 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:04:11 »
Nice set, but why no windows key ? I wanted windows key just because it was in og one
Row 3 text Control was too important to keep lol, sacrifices apparently had to be made.

Offline ZongZiWang

  • Posts: 112
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #407 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:05:53 »
NK65 Olivia Edition. Please take note of the pipe color. :D

(Attachment Link)
Points for effort, but that example is awful. Whoever chose mod colored pipe for that board was clearly dropped on their head as a baby. People with a modicum of taste won't be using mod colored pipe on a 60/65 in ansi layout.

I recall in Taeha's stream I heard this is the designer's choice (Olivia's designer is Olivia), but I could be wrong.

Offline lakeboredom

  • Posts: 428
  • Location: Bay Area California
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #408 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:08:31 »
NK65 Olivia Edition. Please take note of the pipe color. :D

(Attachment Link)
Points for effort, but that example is awful. Whoever chose mod colored pipe for that board was clearly dropped on their head as a baby. People with a modicum of taste won't be using mod colored pipe on a 60/65 in ansi layout.


I recall in Taeha's stream I heard this is the designer's choice (Olivia's designer is Olivia), but I could be wrong.

I mean, it was a joke I don't need to know the specifics. But yeah, it was an awful choice imo. Mod pipe should only be on boards when there is also mod tilde on the other side.
« Last Edit: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:17:41 by lakeboredom »

Offline Domantas

  • Posts: 200
  • Location: Lithuania
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #409 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:21:46 »
I am not sure if muted worth it if ordered modo light. They look so similar. The only thing which realy differ is r5
« Last Edit: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:23:22 by Domantas »

Offline fantasyrunner

  • Posts: 39
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #410 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:32:44 »
such a classic

Offline juaninamilli

  • Posts: 262
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #411 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 08:08:31 »
I would love to see R4 bottom row as an addition. I love R5, but I don’t think it works well with all boards. 

Offline dorf

  • Posts: 271
  • divine creator
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #412 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 10:38:59 »
Thank you for doing this! Running Muted with an international kit is fenomenal. If next set that was run with international was Solarized dark it would make my year!

Offline Domantas

  • Posts: 200
  • Location: Lithuania
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #413 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 19:19:35 »
I would love to see R4 bottom row as an addition. I love R5, but I don’t think it works well with all boards.

Can u provide your insighs about R5?

Offline juaninamilli

  • Posts: 262
[IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #414 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 19:22:12 »
I would love to see R4 bottom row as an addition. I love R5, but I don’t think it works well with all boards.

Can u provide your insighs about R5?
It’s not insight. Just my opinion. But R5 compliments chamfers really well, but looks odd on boards w bigger fillets.  R4 compliments fillets and chamfers.
« Last Edit: Thu, 17 December 2020, 19:23:44 by juaninamilli »

Offline Jaxxstatic

  • Posts: 431
  • Haptic Recon
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #415 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 20:13:35 »
Why not put an IC form up for regular R4 and mod tilde&pipe in their own kit?
Might be eye opening

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

  • Posts: 1796
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #416 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 20:22:59 »
Why not put an IC form up for regular R4 and mod tilde&pipe in their own kit?
Might be eye opening

i don't think we're gonna data them out of a situation they didn't data themselves into

Offline Jaxxstatic

  • Posts: 431
  • Haptic Recon
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #417 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 23:38:17 »
Why not put an IC form up for regular R4 and mod tilde&pipe in their own kit?
Might be eye opening

i don't think we're gonna data them out of a situation they didn't data themselves into


I meant that it might be eye opening for us. My guess is not that as many people as it seems really need mod tilde and pipe. They might just be a loud majority in the thread.

Offline shansoft

  • Posts: 128
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #418 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 23:53:43 »
I would love to see R4 bottom row as an addition. I love R5, but I don’t think it works well with all boards.

Same, I would love to see this as an option as I am not a fan of R5 for its height. Similar problem I have with OEM profile.

Offline _lost_

  • Posts: 10
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #419 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 23:56:42 »
i will in

Offline juaninamilli

  • Posts: 262
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #420 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 23:57:17 »
Why not put an IC form up for regular R4 and mod tilde&pipe in their own kit?
Might be eye opening

i don't think we're gonna data them out of a situation they didn't data themselves into


I meant that it might be eye opening for us. My guess is not that as many people as it seems really need mod tilde and pipe. They might just be a loud majority in the thread.
No one want the option for R4 and R5?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Jaxxstatic

  • Posts: 431
  • Haptic Recon
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #421 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 00:11:09 »
I want a giant $170 base kit with everything because I want the option to change my mind in 1 or 5 or 10 years on layout without having to pay 2030 aftermarket prices at $4k for a 1u R4 zero key.

Offline bball2

  • Posts: 418
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #422 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 00:41:19 »
Too many pages to read everything, but has anyone requested mod colored pipe and tilde keys yet?

Offline lakeboredom

  • Posts: 428
  • Location: Bay Area California
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #423 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 00:48:20 »
Still want that r3 icon Control too  :thumb: 
Seems silly to have a text r3 stepped Control and a r3 Function, but no icon r3 Control to play nice with the other icon mods.

Offline juaninamilli

  • Posts: 262
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #424 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 01:05:19 »
Never said anything about base. But it kinda seems like just wanna argue Jaxx... so you right. I shouldn’t have had an opinion.

Offline fatalruin

  • Posts: 25
  • Location: US
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #425 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 18:06:00 »
I apologize as I ask this out of ignorance. Is the row 5 spacebar mold different than the typical GMK spacebar? I was a bit confused on the renders (especially the accent kits) as they were only labeled SB.

Offline Starston3

  • Posts: 276
  • Location: Bay Area
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #426 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 19:43:36 »
I apologize as I ask this out of ignorance. Is the row 5 spacebar mold different than the typical GMK spacebar? I was a bit confused on the renders (especially the accent kits) as they were only labeled SB.
There’s no difference. There is no R5 spacebar mold. So it’s the normal R4 space at.

Offline hineybush

  • * Maker
  • Posts: 1648
  • Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
  • student of error
    • hineybush keyboards
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #427 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 02:54:57 »
i cant believe there isnt a row 9 mod colored F key how am i supposed to support this keyset?

Offline kekstee

  • Posts: 314
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #428 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 04:11:52 »
Glad this gets a rerun. Kit selection is flawless as far as I'm concerned.

Only choice that strikes me as odd is spelling out Alt Graph on that 1.5u Alt Gr

Offline phunktional

  • Posts: 78
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #429 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 07:40:20 »
i cant believe there isnt a row 9 mod colored F key how am i supposed to support this keyset?
Mod pipe and tilde are very common. Your implication that people are expecting something unusual is incorrect.

Offline Endeavour1934

  • Posts: 101
  • Location: Galicia, Spain
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #430 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 07:56:21 »
I apologize as I ask this out of ignorance. Is the row 5 spacebar mold different than the typical GMK spacebar? I was a bit confused on the renders (especially the accent kits) as they were only labeled SB.
There’s no difference. There is no R5 spacebar mold. So it’s the normal R4 space at.
Actually it's the opposite, current spacebars match R5, not R4. It just happens that being convex the front height is similar to R4.
« Last Edit: Sat, 19 December 2020, 07:59:48 by Endeavour1934 »

Offline Endeavour1934

  • Posts: 101
  • Location: Galicia, Spain
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #431 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 08:00:10 »
Quick render R4 vs spacebar vs R5. The back height of the spacebar key matches the R5 profile. The front is lower to make it more comfortable. (sorry for the double post)
« Last Edit: Sat, 19 December 2020, 08:22:39 by Endeavour1934 »

Offline fatalruin

  • Posts: 25
  • Location: US
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #432 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 10:37:24 »
I apologize as I ask this out of ignorance. Is the row 5 spacebar mold different than the typical GMK spacebar? I was a bit confused on the renders (especially the accent kits) as they were only labeled SB.
There’s no difference. There is no R5 spacebar mold. So it’s the normal R4 space at.
Actually it's the opposite, current spacebars match R5, not R4. It just happens that being convex the front height is similar to R4.

Okay. Thank you both. So to be clear, there is only one mold for GMK spacebars, and the Muted spacebars will be exactly the same as the GMK ones I use now, correct?

Offline CustomerSupport

  • Posts: 277
  • Location: USA 🇺🇸
  • 🕸 developer
    • Discord
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #433 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 10:59:17 »
I'm interested. I told myself I'd be done after Stealth, but Muted may be the next go for me.

Offline juaninamilli

  • Posts: 262
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #434 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 16:01:09 »
i cant believe there isnt a row 9 mod colored F key how am i supposed to support this keyset?
That’s a bit of a reach isn’t it? R9 is barely used anymore.

Offline Jaxxstatic

  • Posts: 431
  • Haptic Recon
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #435 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 22:02:33 »
Never said anything about base. But it kinda seems like just wanna argue Jaxx... so you right. I shouldn’t have had an opinion.


I'm not arguing, and I'm not memeing.
I was serious--I really want a large base kit. VoC had a perfect base kit in my opinion.
If the base kit was larger than that even, I would still be ok with it.   
I'm tired of vendors splitting off so many keys, that if you're the type of person to have many boards with many different layouts, you end up paying triple the price of what used to be a normal sized base kit.
To be very clear--I also would like R4 and R5 options in the base kit, at least for tsangan bottom row.

I know that's not likely, so I've already suggested putting keys like mod tilde and pipe in one of the existing kits or their own kit.
But to be truthful, I don't use those keys. And not a lot of people I know would hinge their purchase of a set on those keys if they were looking at the product page on a website. 

This is an interest check, though, so you'd think that the creators of this set were gathering opinions or interest.
Sadly, most interest checks are just advertisements nowadays. If that's what this thread is, it would be sad. However, they've already made some changes based off suggestions. It's weird to me that they would "die on this hill" about mod tilde and pipe though. 

Hopefully R4 bottom row is not on that hill as well.
« Last Edit: Sat, 19 December 2020, 22:06:31 by Jaxxstatic »

Offline juaninamilli

  • Posts: 262
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #436 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 22:15:40 »
Never said anything about base. But it kinda seems like just wanna argue Jaxx... so you right. I shouldn’t have had an opinion.


I'm not arguing, and I'm not memeing.
I was serious--I really want a large base kit. VoC had a perfect base kit in my opinion.
If the base kit was larger than that even, I would still be ok with it.   
I'm tired of vendors splitting off so many keys, that if you're the type of person to have many boards with many different layouts, you end up paying triple the price of what used to be a normal sized base kit.
To be very clear--I also would like R4 and R5 options in the base kit, at least for tsangan bottom row.

I know that's not likely, so I've already suggested putting keys like mod tilde and pipe in one of the existing kits or their own kit.
But to be truthful, I don't use those keys. And not a lot of people I know would hinge their purchase of a set on those keys if they were looking at the product page on a website. 

This is an interest check, though, so you'd think that the creators of this set were gathering opinions or interest.
Sadly, most interest checks are just advertisements nowadays. If that's what this thread is, it would be sad. However, they've already made some changes based off suggestions. It's weird to me that they would "die on this hill" about mod tilde and pipe though. 

Hopefully R4 bottom row is not on that hill as well.
I totally misread that then. I’m sorry man.

I’m still going to support the set... I’ve wanted it for a while. I’m sure that hoping for something like the option for R4 might be unpopular opinion for the current fad, but it has its place. It definitely not a deal breaker tho.

Offline Daniel

  • Posts: 50
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #437 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 04:56:27 »
GMK Muted accents on GMK Minimal? Is that going to work out well? Or better wait for Sleeves R2?

Offline Poesjuh

  • Posts: 726
  • Location: Netherlands - N-H
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #438 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 05:56:02 »
.
« Last Edit: Tue, 22 December 2020, 07:11:24 by Poesjuh »

Offline kidgoth

  • Posts: 20
  • imagine living outside of the US
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #439 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 09:27:20 »
nice...time to return the hk gaming clones i bought a week ago

Offline krisst

  • Posts: 134
  • Location: Little Red Dot
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #440 on: Wed, 23 December 2020, 16:27:27 »
112344 Please.

R5 could be option kit. Else just make R4 bottom row kit.

We could have a poll for this. This is one of the iconic set. Have to do justice for this rerun, else what's the point.

Offline scoopbb

  • Posts: 271
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #441 on: Wed, 23 December 2020, 18:05:03 »
an extension kit with macro column support and no real 40s support is laughable.

Offline haystack

  • Posts: 42
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #442 on: Wed, 23 December 2020, 18:24:00 »
an extension kit with macro column support and no real 40s support is laughable.

*laughs in Zenith and J-01 Rev 1*

Offline vocal118

  • Posts: 32
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #443 on: Wed, 23 December 2020, 21:49:24 »
I would love to see R4 bottom row as an addition.

Offline Domantas

  • Posts: 200
  • Location: Lithuania
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #444 on: Fri, 25 December 2020, 08:40:25 »
I want a giant $170 base kit with everything because I want the option to change my mind in 1 or 5 or 10 years on layout without having to pay 2030 aftermarket prices at $4k for a 1u R4 zero key.

I completely agree with this view. All these minimalish kits are huge bs. I am pretty strong in this opinion. The only time I would grab small set if I am not sure I like it, but that is not worth making small kit - big kit is da way!

GMK Muted accents on GMK Minimal? Is that going to work out well? Or better wait for Sleeves R2?

Honestly - I would probably wait for sleeves
« Last Edit: Fri, 25 December 2020, 08:45:58 by Domantas »

Offline krzank

  • Posts: 100
  • Location: Warsaw
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #445 on: Sat, 26 December 2020, 06:02:15 »
International Kit - Oblotzky really pushed for this one, ...
I'm glad they've pushed for it.
This kit + R5 has convinced me to buy this set - money saved, can't wait for GB now ...
KEEP R5 PLEASE!


Offline Yeoh

  • Posts: 162
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #446 on: Sat, 26 December 2020, 13:59:32 »
Still want that r3 icon Control too  :thumb: 
Seems silly to have a text r3 stepped Control and a r3 Function, but no icon r3 Control to play nice with the other icon mods.

Having text on the bottom row and calling it 'icons' is smooth brane to begin with, so lets not get too caught up in technicalities.

Offline forevermadrigal

  • Posts: 663
  • Location: In between myself
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #447 on: Sat, 26 December 2020, 15:10:00 »
I want a giant $170 base kit with everything because I want the option to change my mind in 1 or 5 or 10 years on layout without having to pay 2030 aftermarket prices at $4k for a 1u R4 zero key.

I completely agree with this view. All these minimalish kits are huge bs. I am pretty strong in this opinion. The only time I would grab small set if I am not sure I like it, but that is not worth making small kit - big kit is da way!

That's if you can find the kits in the aftermarket. A lot of sets/kits are harder to come by nowadays

Offline Endeavour1934

  • Posts: 101
  • Location: Galicia, Spain
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #448 on: Sat, 26 December 2020, 16:04:23 »
I gave another chance to R5 again this weekend after reading all the pro-R5 comments... but it's definitely not for me. I find it very uncomfortable :(

Offline Aevyn

  • Posts: 68
Re: [IC] GMK Muted 2
« Reply #449 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 02:45:25 »
an extension kit with macro column support and no real 40s support is laughable.
Agreed. Why even call it an extension? Break it out. Put spit bars with spacebars and macro kit. Would love to see a 40s kit though.

Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk