Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 07 November 2015, 12:05:26
Thanks for all the updates!
I have an official statement to come with. I will probably send an email too.
There will be no more Winkeyless group buys in the nearest future.
Hojin kindly told me that Winkeyless won't run another group buy. For those that don't know, Winkeyless was the source for PCBs and stabilisers in this group buy. This means that i need to source new PCBs, and that will take a while(PM me if you have any suggestions). Plates will go on, maybe even sandwhich cases, that I have been wanting to do for a while. I have a website i am working on, and I will be trying to run my group buys of that site, i will still be making a GB thread here on Geekhack.
We have had some up and downsides of this group buy, as always. Tier 2 was upgraded to Tier 3, which became a problem for some people, shipping prices went up and USPS is messing around.
Please email me if you have a problem with your order! leandre.north@gmail.com
Thanks for joining, and I am looking forward to seeing pictures of your builds.
LeandreN
Next GB: True Winkeyless and HHKB plates. February.
GB text:
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Check how your order is doing here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eHTkuk4TNCe5ozR7Rt_awH0E57Wb8s3zvJ1oc2uC3Eg/edit#gid=0)
UPDATE 01/04/15
Starting shipping sorting and stabiliser sorting for all orders.
Are we delayed?
Check the timer here. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160201T235959&p0=187&msg=Your+order+should+ship+within&font=cursive&csz=1)
UPDATE 01/03/15
Due to unexpected fees and shipping cost increase, please do not expect a refund for those who ordered the Tier 3 PCBs. I think this is totally fair since you are paying for a tier 3 PCB and you get a tier 3 PCB. Sorry.
Are we delayed?
Check the timer here. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160201T235959&p0=187&msg=Your+order+should+ship+within&font=cursive&csz=1)
UPDATE 12/14/15
Are we delayed?
Check the timer here. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160201T235959&p0=187&msg=Your+order+should+ship+within&font=cursive&csz=1)Your order SHOULD be shipped within this date. There is no promise, but this is the estimate if there are no delays.
The plates and PCBs are ordered. The Gateron blues is still shipping from Gateron and will take a while. Once it is at Corus, it will be shipped with 24 hour express. They are not prioriting my order which is fine, since they deal with 100.000$ orders each day.
Hey again!
Exciting news. After a interest check yesterday, i finalized the pricing, colors and availability after peoples preference. I got a tremendously large amount of response so i am super happy to announce my third group buy !
60% is still the theme. PCBs from Winkeyless and plates from JDcarpe will be available. Both of which supports a lot of layouts. I will also be offering stabiliser sets at 9$ a set. PCB mounted and enough for a TKL or smaller. For the PCBs, both RGB parts and soldering will be able at the standard Winkeyless price. Either way, the PCBs will be 100% fully presoldered, so you have one less thing to worry about. Better shipping materials IS available. I now have cardboard boxes to ship everything in.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/08/3427228c92fd75d4dc378c193010a596.jpg)
PCBs - Winkeyless B.face - standard 60% PCB
(http://i.imgur.com/xx7Lwpf.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/winkeyless.kr/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/layout_face.jpg)
One of the best PCBs available. RGB LEDs underglow, full programabilty via the Winkeyless bootloader, and support for a lot of layouts.
62$ - fully presoldered(diodes, resistors and controller parts) and ready to go. (still determining price)
UPDATED PRICES
Normal price is 75$
RGB parts: 11$
RGB parts + soldering: 19$
Plates - JDcarpe 60%, new colors
(http://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/164294803/max_w-1500/LLs9i7y_(1).png)
(http://i.imgur.com/aK87L21.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pbOdLpa.jpg)
Great plate, as i say.
Supports a lot of layouts, and is almost mandatory for a custom build in my opinion. Aluminium AND steel will be available! Allows for switch top removal. Plates also change the sound and weight of your custom build.
Aluminium colors:
Purple
Orange
Red
Blue
Camo green/dark green
Grey
Silver
Black
Steel is brushed, not colored and provides a lot of sturdiness.
30$ for aluminium & 32$ for steel.
Stabilisers - PCB mounted - Enough for a 60%/TKL
Standard PCB mounted stabilisers. 6.25 standard spacebar etc.
9$
Shipping & Payment
Shipping for 1-2 full keyboards are 16$ to internationally and 7$ to Europe.
2$ + 3% fee will be added if paying with PayPal
If you pay with SEPA, a 2.19€ fee will be added.
Terms
All packages are shipped without tracking unless you have a super large order, or want to pay 50$ for shipping. Any loss of packages will be reported to me, and i will do my best to compensate, HOWEVER i can't promise anything. Usually, this works out just fine.
You are not in the GB before you have paid. When placing an order you must be able to pay for your items, if not, please report to me ASAP.
I reserve the right to deny sale to individuals, or if the GB goes beyond the expectations. As mentioned before, you don't automatically have a place in the GB by filling out the form.
ORDER FORM (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1neYkvBR47Q5VMC68DaDbBEazjza0fBx5epGJY3z-6fs/viewform?usp=send_form)
Estimated shipping time: 8 weeks after orders close.
Any questions?
Ask me anytime, anywhere.
/u/LeandreN
leandre.north@gmail.com
LeandreN at Geekhack
LeandreN at Deskthority
UPDATE 01/04/15
Starting shipping sorting and stabiliser sorting for all orders.
Are we delayed?
Check the timer here. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160201T235959&p0=187&msg=Your+order+should+ship+within&font=cursive&csz=1)
UPDATE 01/03/15
Due to unexpected fees and shipping cost increase, please do not expect a refund for those who ordered the Tier 3 PCBs. I think this is totally fair since you are paying for a tier 3 PCB and you get a tier 3 PCB. Sorry.
Are we delayed?
Check the timer here. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160201T235959&p0=187&msg=Your+order+should+ship+within&font=cursive&csz=1)
UPDATE 12/14/15
Are we delayed?
Check the timer here. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160201T235959&p0=187&msg=Your+order+should+ship+within&font=cursive&csz=1)Your order SHOULD be shipped within this date. There is no promise, but this is the estimate if there are no delays.
The plates and PCBs are ordered. The Gateron blues is still shipping from Gateron and will take a while. Once it is at Corus, it will be shipped with 24 hour express. They are not prioriting my order which is fine, since they deal with 100.000$ orders each day.
Hey again!
Exciting news. After a interest check yesterday, i finalized the pricing, colors and availability after peoples preference. I got a tremendously large amount of response so i am super happy to announce my third group buy !
60% is still the theme. PCBs from Winkeyless and plates from JDcarpe will be available. Both of which supports a lot of layouts. I will also be offering stabiliser sets at 9$ a set. PCB mounted and enough for a TKL or smaller. For the PCBs, both RGB parts and soldering will be able at the standard Winkeyless price. Either way, the PCBs will be 100% fully presoldered, so you have one less thing to worry about. Better shipping materials IS available. I now have cardboard boxes to ship everything in.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/08/3427228c92fd75d4dc378c193010a596.jpg)
PCBs - Winkeyless B.face - standard 60% PCB
(http://i.imgur.com/xx7Lwpf.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/winkeyless.kr/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/layout_face.jpg)
One of the best PCBs available. RGB LEDs underglow, full programabilty via the Winkeyless bootloader, and support for a lot of layouts.
62$ - fully presoldered(diodes, resistors and controller parts) and ready to go. (still determining price)
UPDATED PRICES
More
Thank you so much for the orders. I really think that people have starting trusting my GBs, and that is fantastic. Thanks to all the orders, i can drop the price of the Tier 2 PCB to 59$. This is 3$ cheaper per PCB.
Tier 1 PCB (diodes + controller parts) = 49$
Tier 2 PCB (diodes, controller parts and resistors) = 59$
Tier 3 PCB (diodes, controller parts, resistors and RGB underglow parts) = 78$
I have also removed the (+2$) on the steel plates. They are now just 30$, like the aluminium plates.
I hope this helps even more people joining the GB. Please invite your family, friends and colleagues to join!
PS: The expected shipping time is reduced from 2 months after invoicing to 1,5 months :)
Tier 1 PCB (diodes + controller parts) = 49$
Tier 2 PCB (diodes, controller parts and resistors) = 59$
Tier 3 PCB (diodes, controller parts, resistors and RGB underglow parts) = 78$
I have also removed the (+2$) on the steel plates. They are now just 30$, like the aluminium plates.
I hope this helps even more people joining the GB. Please invite your family, friends and colleagues to join!
PS: The expected shipping time is reduced from 2 months after invoicing to 1,5 months :)
Normal price is 75$
RGB parts: 11$
RGB parts + soldering: 19$
Plates - JDcarpe 60%, new colors
(http://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/164294803/max_w-1500/LLs9i7y_(1).png)
(http://i.imgur.com/aK87L21.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pbOdLpa.jpg)
Great plate, as i say.
Supports a lot of layouts, and is almost mandatory for a custom build in my opinion. Aluminium AND steel will be available! Allows for switch top removal. Plates also change the sound and weight of your custom build.
Aluminium colors:
Purple
Orange
Red
Blue
Camo green/dark green
Grey
Silver
Black
Steel is brushed, not colored and provides a lot of sturdiness.
30$ for aluminium & 32$ for steel.
Stabilisers - PCB mounted - Enough for a 60%/TKL
Standard PCB mounted stabilisers. 6.25 standard spacebar etc.
9$
Shipping & Payment
Shipping for 1-2 full keyboards are 16$ to internationally and 7$ to Europe.
2$ + 3% fee will be added if paying with PayPal
If you pay with SEPA, a 2.19€ fee will be added.
Terms
All packages are shipped without tracking unless you have a super large order, or want to pay 50$ for shipping. Any loss of packages will be reported to me, and i will do my best to compensate, HOWEVER i can't promise anything. Usually, this works out just fine.
You are not in the GB before you have paid. When placing an order you must be able to pay for your items, if not, please report to me ASAP.
I reserve the right to deny sale to individuals, or if the GB goes beyond the expectations. As mentioned before, you don't automatically have a place in the GB by filling out the form.
ORDER FORM (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1neYkvBR47Q5VMC68DaDbBEazjza0fBx5epGJY3z-6fs/viewform?usp=send_form)
Estimated shipping time: 8 weeks after orders close.
Any questions?
Ask me anytime, anywhere.
/u/LeandreN
leandre.north@gmail.com
LeandreN at Geekhack
LeandreN at Deskthority
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 07 November 2015, 17:24:53
Post by: R1N3 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 18:28:48
Post by: Zealousy on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:30:57
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 22:31:55
Post by: r0yal on Sun, 08 November 2015, 02:09:26
Post by: nmur on Sun, 08 November 2015, 02:26:40
btw are standard 6.25u stab sets the only option? or would it be possible to pick up a 7u space bar stab instead?
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 02:41:41
Any questions?What are colors options for the PCB?
Are black plates available? You didn't list it but it's shown in the picture.
Post by: bubchi89 on Sun, 08 November 2015, 02:47:41
1) Stupid question, but these are cherry stabs, correct?
2) Can we order only the stabs?
3) I'm a novice, but I plan on this sort of layout: https://i.imgur.com/xkGLD2B.jpg. I think that means I need:
backspace: 2x
enter: 2.25x
left shift: 2.25x
space: 6.25x (but preferably as many of the other sizes as I can get. In particular, 6x/5.75x/5.5x)
Is that covered by your stab set?
Thanks for any help!
Post by: nmur on Sun, 08 November 2015, 02:51:48
I'm building an rs84 and wanted to grab some stabs. Couple questions:
1) Stupid question, but these are cherry stabs, correct?
2) Can we order only the stabs?
3) I'm a novice, but I plan on this sort of layout: https://i.imgur.com/xkGLD2B.jpg. I think that means I need:
backspace: 2x
enter: 2.25x
left shift: 2.25x
space: 6.25x (but preferably as many of the other sizes as I can get. In particular, 6x/5.75x/5.5x)
Is that covered by your stab set?
Thanks for any help!
Just a heads up, that layout in your pic is a 75% size layout, and this buy is for a 60% size.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 03:00:28
5.75x/5.5xYou can bend yourself a wire for any stabilizer but this PCB only supports 6u, 6.25u and 7u spacebars.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 03:39:45
Neeeeeed stabilizers!
Stabilisers are available.
I was going to buy a sprit edition facew to go with my purpl3 LeandreN plate, but this b.face deal looks too good to pass up! RGB SMD LEDs? YES PLEASE :D
The LEDs are undeglow only, but yeah it is a pretty good deal. It is usually 75$ presoldered.
bought a Sprit pcb from round 2 leftovers, but not I am considering selling that to pick up one of these pcb's haha...
btw are standard 6.25u stab sets the only option? or would it be possible to pick up a 7u space bar stab instead?
Only 6.25u spacebar option this time. You need to find another place to pick up that 7u wire. Sorry.
What are colors options for the PCB?
Are black plates available? You didn't list it but it's shown in the picture.
I will ask once more for color options for the PCB, but i guess white is the only options. This also helps the SMD RGB LEDs to reflect better.
Black plates are available, edited the OP.
I'm building an rs84 and wanted to grab some stabs. Couple questions:
1) Stupid question, but these are cherry stabs, correct?
2) Can we order only the stabs?
3) I'm a novice, but I plan on this sort of layout: https://i.imgur.com/xkGLD2B.jpg. I think that means I need:
backspace: 2x
enter: 2.25x
left shift: 2.25x
space: 6.25x (but preferably as many of the other sizes as I can get. In particular, 6x/5.75x/5.5x)
Is that covered by your stab set?
Thanks for any help!
1) Cherry stabs, PCB mounted, yes.
2) Preferably not.
3)
2u
2u
2u
2u
6.25u
Post by: mversion on Sun, 08 November 2015, 03:43:26
You should totally do a Pushbullet channel so we know exactly when the order form is live.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 03:54:03
I ran into some pricing trouble.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 03:56:16
Are SMD RGBs optional? Meaning, can we get a board without them?What are colors options for the PCB?I will ask once more for color options for the PCB, but i guess white is the only options. This also helps the SMD RGB LEDs to reflect better.
I'm pretty sure we can but I need to sure.
I would be happy to see a black PCB.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 03:57:16
Should resistor soldering be included?SMD is something few people can do at home, So I guess it would be better if you provided the PCBs with diodes and resistors already soldered.
Post by: mversion on Sun, 08 November 2015, 04:00:00
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 04:15:22
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 04:44:35
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 04:55:41
62$ presoldered. Resistors, diodes, controller parts. That is a 13$ discount per.$13.60 discount. ;)
Count me in for plate + PCB.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 06:30:25
Post by: rddm on Sun, 08 November 2015, 08:19:06
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 08:42:22
Might wanna update your signature link and add your shop in your profile.MoreShow Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/08/678a794fe9200df8fbfa311e1a5a724b.jpg)
Post by: inanis on Sun, 08 November 2015, 08:50:39
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 08 November 2015, 10:28:49
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 11:07:36
Highly recommended everyone. Shipping was very prompt in the last round.
Thanks a lot!
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 11:10:43
Highly recommended everyone. Shipping was very prompt in the last round.Also in round 1.
Post by: ika on Sun, 08 November 2015, 11:16:50
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 11:47:58
For a 60% board, 820ohm resistors can support all colors, according to winkeyless.Yeah I found out. Thanks though!
Post by: Barracuda on Sun, 08 November 2015, 11:52:13
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 12:11:32
Does this PCB fit into the GON Nerd 60 housing?Meaning these?
More
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/78-thickbox_default/gon-ns-skinny-housing-only.jpg)
Post by: Barracuda on Sun, 08 November 2015, 12:28:37
Does this PCB fit into the GON Nerd 60 housing?Meaning these?MoreShow Image(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/78-thickbox_default/gon-ns-skinny-housing-only.jpg)
no, these
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 08 November 2015, 12:44:47
Hard to tell without a picture. If you own it you could post one.Does this PCB fit into the GON Nerd 60 housing?Meaning these?MoreShow Image(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/78-thickbox_default/gon-ns-skinny-housing-only.jpg)
no, these
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html
Post by: kiwi24x on Sun, 08 November 2015, 13:13:30
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 13:51:11
I'm interested in joining this group buy. When does it start?This week hopefully.
Post by: rddm on Sun, 08 November 2015, 15:10:19
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 08 November 2015, 15:17:56
LeandreN can you talk to get a winkeyless case instead of tex aluminium case for the group buy?Not this time as everything is determined. I am really sorry. Maybe next time.
Post by: Zealousy on Sun, 08 November 2015, 15:28:40
Post by: kiwi24x on Sun, 08 November 2015, 19:25:38
Post by: Barracuda on Sun, 08 November 2015, 19:40:24
Hard to tell without a picture. If you own it you could post one.Does this PCB fit into the GON Nerd 60 housing?Meaning these?MoreShow Image(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/78-thickbox_default/gon-ns-skinny-housing-only.jpg)
no, these
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html
Don't have one, but the site says that poker pcbs fit.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 09 November 2015, 00:23:34
Are there any options for switches? Pre soldered. Since I'm a noob and can't do it myself.Not really, as I have no switches in stock. However, it is super simple. Get a soldering iron and one of those training kits, and you are good to go.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 09 November 2015, 05:39:31
Are there any options for switches? Pre soldered. Since I'm a noob and can't do it myself.Where in the world are you?
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 09 November 2015, 05:40:31
the site says that poker pcbs fit.This happens to be one.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 09 November 2015, 05:57:26
I have a MOQ of 2000 switches.
0.21$ per switch.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 09 November 2015, 06:11:41
Anyone interested in Gateron Blues?(the best switch on the planet)
I have a MOQ of 2000 switches.
0.21$ per switch.
I might order some. Would the shipping time be any faster if we only ordered switches?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 09 November 2015, 06:12:08
Yes it would.Anyone interested in Gateron Blues?(the best switch on the planet)
I have a MOQ of 2000 switches.
0.21$ per switch.
I might order some. Would the shipping time be any faster if we only ordered switches?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 09 November 2015, 06:13:24
Yes it would.
Definitely in for a couple then.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 09 November 2015, 06:22:15
I hope you mean more than "2" switches haha. MOQ is 2000 switches. Let me know if anyone else is interested.Yes it would.
Definitely in for a couple then.
Post by: braidn on Mon, 09 November 2015, 07:11:30
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 09 November 2015, 07:12:42
Anyone interested in Gateron Blues?Just blues?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 09 November 2015, 07:21:08
Yes, for now.Anyone interested in Gateron Blues?Just blues?
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 09 November 2015, 07:25:54
Minimum order for us buyers?Yes, for now.Anyone interested in Gateron Blues?Just blues?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 09 November 2015, 07:26:38
As long as we can hit 2000, whatever you want.Minimum order for us buyers?Yes, for now.Anyone interested in Gateron Blues?Just blues?
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 09 November 2015, 07:28:49
I'll consider then.As long as we can hit 2000, whatever you want.Minimum order for us buyers?Yes, for now.Anyone interested in Gateron Blues?Just blues?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 09 November 2015, 11:46:23
Post by: Tachi on Mon, 09 November 2015, 13:31:29
Post by: braidn on Mon, 09 November 2015, 13:41:57
The steel plate won't change the plate's thickness, use in most 60% cases will it?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 10 November 2015, 02:21:50
Post by: Zealousy on Tue, 10 November 2015, 03:26:23
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 10 November 2015, 03:28:27
Can't wait! Thanks for running the GB as usual, LeandreN!Thanks :)
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 10 November 2015, 03:29:05
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 10 November 2015, 07:24:33
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 10 November 2015, 07:33:47
Any hope for a black PCB?Nope. Not as it looks now
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 10 November 2015, 07:42:04
A white one will do then.Any hope for a black PCB?Nope. Not as it looks now
Post by: priyadi on Tue, 10 November 2015, 08:54:29
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 10 November 2015, 11:38:46
Is the PCB compatible with TMK firmware?It uses the FaceW firmware.
Post by: braidn on Tue, 10 November 2015, 12:02:49
Is the PCB compatible with TMK firmware?
As explained above it uses FaceW firmware. Winkeyless has an application for Mac and Windows that will create a hex file for the keyboard. It's not as programmer like as TMK which is sad but it is nearly as powerful. I do wish that they would go to something that was internet based so sharing links for layouts was a breeze but yah get what you can take. Honestly I really wish they would allow TMK or have a managed fork for there keyboards. I have always loved them but this has held me back in the past.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 10 November 2015, 12:46:43
Please fill out this for Gateron Blues IC!
Post by: priyadi on Tue, 10 November 2015, 13:25:59
As explained above it uses FaceW firmware. Winkeyless has an application for Mac and Windows that will create a hex file for the keyboard. It's not as programmer like as TMK which is sad but it is nearly as powerful. I do wish that they would go to something that was internet based so sharing links for layouts was a breeze but yah get what you can take. Honestly I really wish they would allow TMK or have a managed fork for there keyboards. I have always loved them but this has held me back in the past.
That's too bad. I'm exclusively under Linux these days, so this one is no go. I guess I'll have to wait for the next Infinity group buy or maybe Sentraq.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 10 November 2015, 14:03:27
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1NPBMdse5kZtOtOU3XFMOl2BgzPubHl_6QJ7Ib296wkI/viewform?usp=send_formI really have little use for them but I'm getting 20 to, marginally, contribute to the MOQ, along with plate and PCB of course.
Please fill out this for Gateron Blues IC!
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 10 November 2015, 16:35:47
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1NPBMdse5kZtOtOU3XFMOl2BgzPubHl_6QJ7Ib296wkI/viewform?usp=send_form
Post by: meevilsheep on Tue, 10 November 2015, 18:08:27
First of all, i`d like to thank you for making this possible to us EU users (custom taxes+VAT really are a downer sometimes). Regarding this GB, i have some questions
1. The price for a fully soldered PCB with RGB LEDs is 62$, or 62+19=81$ ?
2. The RGB LEDs (underglow) are meant to illuminate the case, right?
3. From what i understand, if we choose to buy Gateron SW, you can`t solder the switches. Is there someone you would recommend regarding SW soldering?
4. Can we mount the whole thing in a case after the switches are soldered on the PCB?
5. The switches you mentioned have a clear housing? I can`t remember if i`ve ever seen Gateron with black housing, just wanted to be sure.
That`s about all.. As you can see, i`m a total noob when it comes to custom keyboards. Hope this GB runs smooth and you don`t have any trouble with it :thumb:
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 11 November 2015, 03:37:12
3. From what i understand, if we choose to buy Gateron SW, you can`t solder the switches. Is there someone you would recommend regarding SW soldering?I can solder the switches for you for free if you're willing to pay the whole shipping route (Norway -> Italy -> Romania).
4. Can we mount the whole thing in a case after the switches are soldered on the PCB?Definetely.
5. The switches you mentioned have a clear housing?Yes.
More
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-5727_20150217170744_7f04d29350cdd2e9.jpg?auto=format&fit=crop&w=376&dpr=1)
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 11 November 2015, 05:51:38
2. The RGB LEDs (underglow) are meant to illuminate the case, right?
Yes, this kind of lighting is best if you use it with an acrylic case.
Post by: meevilsheep on Wed, 11 November 2015, 12:53:02
2. The RGB LEDs (underglow) are meant to illuminate the case, right?
Yes, this kind of lighting is best if you use it with an acrylic case.
3. From what i understand, if we choose to buy Gateron SW, you can`t solder the switches. Is there someone you would recommend regarding SW soldering?I can solder the switches for you for free if you're willing to pay the whole shipping route (Norway -> Italy -> Romania).4. Can we mount the whole thing in a case after the switches are soldered on the PCB?Definetely.5. The switches you mentioned have a clear housing?Yes.MoreShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-5727_20150217170744_7f04d29350cdd2e9.jpg?auto=format&fit=crop&w=376&dpr=1)
Thanks, guys.
@TalkingTree I'll give you a PM, probably next week.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 11 November 2015, 14:35:55
Let me know if any of you have some more !
LeandreN
Post by: cjhard on Wed, 11 November 2015, 18:06:24
Also GH's SSL cert just expired. 2015-11-11 18:59:59 EST
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 11 November 2015, 19:55:29
Are resistors for in-switch LED's pre-soldered or supplied?Pre-soldered
Also GH's SSL cert just expired. 2015-11-11 18:59:59 EST
and they know and it's fixed
Post by: cjhard on Wed, 11 November 2015, 21:55:14
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 12 November 2015, 12:23:54
Making the order form now, i want to make it perfect.
Let me know if you have any questions !
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 13 November 2015, 07:16:24
Also, they are orange and grey :D
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 13 November 2015, 11:06:01
Just want you to know that i will put up some plates in my store for 40$ shipped EU. This 4$ more than it would probably be in my GB(depending on what you order), however, you will get them much faster.
Also, they are orange and grey :D
Those will go very well with skidata! When are those going up do you think?
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 13 November 2015, 11:24:20
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 13 November 2015, 11:25:17
http://leandren.bigcartel.com/product/universal-top-plate-for-60-keyboards-designed-by-jdcarpe
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 15 November 2015, 08:33:56
The GB is now open for orders. Please read carefully before you place the order, also tell your friends. More orders is great.
Gateron Blues is the ONLY switch that will be available. The switch is PCB mounted.
Stabilisers, PCBs and plates is the other things you can order.
I am happy to announce that Carbon Fiber plates will be available, at the usual price. If i get more than 10 orders of those, i might be able to give a discount.
Contact me here: leandre.north@gmail if you have a super large orders.
Remember that the first orders, will ship first.
Here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1neYkvBR47Q5VMC68DaDbBEazjza0fBx5epGJY3z-6fs/viewform?usp=send_form) is the order form.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:00:24
One question. I don't really need LEDs on every switches so I went for the diodes + controller only board.
Do I need to solder resistores on every switch or just the ones I want LEDs in?
Post by: theginginator on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:03:24
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:04:24
Ordered.
One question. I don't really need LEDs on every switches so I went for the diodes + controller only board.
Do I need to solder resistores on every switch or just the ones I want LEDs in?
I am pretty sure you only need resistors in the LEDs you are using. I will send a message to Winkeyless to confirm that. Also, the resistors are SMD style, not trough hole.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:07:12
In that case I'll have no LEDs at all, thanks for answering.Ordered.
One question. I don't really need LEDs on every switches so I went for the diodes + controller only board.
Do I need to solder resistores on every switch or just the ones I want LEDs in?
I am pretty sure you only need resistors in the LEDs you are using. I will send a message to Winkeyless to confirm that. Also, the resistors are SMD style, not trough hole.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:16:56
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:21:05
Feel free to change your order whenever you want.No thanks, it's ok. I only wanted LEDs for locks indicators, but I can live without.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:26:27
Feel free to change your order whenever you want.No thanks, it's ok. I only wanted LEDs for locks indicators, but I can live without.
Cool. Let me know if you change your mind.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:59:47
Ordered this time, not waiting till the last minute and missing out like i did last round :thumb:Awesome. Thanks!
Post by: braidn on Sun, 15 November 2015, 11:12:25
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 15 November 2015, 11:31:31
Just checking but the folks from the USA should be selecting the second shipping price point? The one that's for 8-20 days?
If you are from the US, you have two options, but yes, the second one "International" is probably the right one for most people.
Post by: braidn on Sun, 15 November 2015, 15:57:45
Post by: HesterDW on Sun, 15 November 2015, 16:32:39
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 16 November 2015, 00:05:04
Post by: Zealousy on Mon, 16 November 2015, 00:38:20
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 16 November 2015, 01:13:15
We can buy one item right? I just want a PCB.I want people to order 1 plate per 2. PCB.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 16 November 2015, 01:13:45
Entered for one PCB and stabs and 80 Gat blues. I've said it before and I'll say it again, LeandreN is the king!Thanks!
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 11:24:49
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 16 November 2015, 11:34:49
Awesome, I'm in!
Great !
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 16 November 2015, 15:01:32
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 18:54:56
Now I want steel plate for Sprit 60 PCB. Is plates in this GB support my PCB?
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:17:39
I'm back after a long time. I can't follow your GB sorry :(Yes, they work great with the Sprit 60% PCB. That's the same PCB he's selling in this GB. :)
Now I want steel plate for Sprit 60 PCB. Is plates in this GB support my PCB?
Post by: cjhard on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:33:28
Should fit regardless.
Post by: HesterDW on Mon, 16 November 2015, 20:25:37
I have been looking into buying a GON PCB and was was thinking of fitting some underglow LED's. Then sticking the whole thing in a TEX acrylic case I have lying around. Since this one is RGB seems to me that this one is the better option. Can I change the color to whatever I want or will it constantly show a rainbow of colors? Follow up question. If you can change the color of the LED's, how do you do that?
I'm still a noob when it comes to this stuff, someone would have to back me up. I'm pretty sure you program the PCB (with software or in bios?) on how to switch colors. Whichever LEDs you buy would have a set number of colors and by programming the keyboard you're basically able tell the LEDs to do what you want when a certain key combination is pressed.
So I'd imagine you could program the keyboard to cycle through LED colors or rainbow depending on what you want.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 22:48:27
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 16 November 2015, 23:39:39
Sound great! Thanks! Can I order only plate?Yes you can. This time you will get it in a cardboard box, so no worries about a bent plate ;-)
Please note that the plates only support PCB mounted stabilisers.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 17 November 2015, 00:10:35
Early PCBs had an LED strip. You can kind of adjust those. Now the RGB LEDs get soldered directly to the PCB.
If you look inside the TEX case, there are ridges that are inside the body of the case. On acrylic Tex builds using the b.face with RGB, people use a rotary tool to cut space to fit the LEDs!
Ziptyze cases (z-cases) have the ridges purposely removed. They are best case for price...
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 17 November 2015, 01:35:28
Thanks for this :-*
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 17 November 2015, 01:35:39
Sound great! Thanks! Can I order only plate?Yes you can. This time you will get it in a cardboard box, so no worries about a bent plate ;-)
Please note that the plates only support PCB mounted stabilisers.
Yes, thanks for your remind. Do you have some pics about cardboard box?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 17 November 2015, 07:19:54
http://www.anyboxdirect.com/products/shirt_knitwear_a4_box.jpg
It is basically this without the "white paint". Together with some bubblewrap, it will be safe.
Thanks :)
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 17 November 2015, 07:20:39
Awesome group buy, hoping to make my first keyboard ;D
Thanks for this :-*
Thanks!
Post by: t8c on Tue, 17 November 2015, 07:51:43
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 17 November 2015, 08:56:01
EDIT: Says 29th on Reddit. Perfect.
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 17 November 2015, 08:56:21
Post by: QuickDelat on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:30:32
(http://i.imgur.com/6kFEq2P.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 17 November 2015, 09:37:11
the box should look like this if he's still using the same as last round. Cannot say enough how much I recommend this guy!I am actually not using the Posten boxes anymore as they are very expensive. I have someone that is very similar though ;-)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6kFEq2P.jpg)
Thanks QuickDelat!
Post by: romevi on Tue, 17 November 2015, 11:24:18
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:07:48
Regular or gold stabs?Regular
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 17 November 2015, 13:27:54
This is a pie chart of all the plates that is ordered. Seems like people want plain colors, or purple, red or blue.
Cool to see that many orders of steel plates.
Keep the orders coming ! :D
(http://i.imgur.com/dBAIzsX.jpg)
Post by: Cindori on Wed, 18 November 2015, 08:52:46
How does programmability work? I would want this layout, it's possible?
(http://i.imgur.com/3hzwHBv.png?1)
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 18 November 2015, 09:40:51
You can have both at the same time if you want.
That layout would be possible. And i really like it actually. You use the Winkeyless bootloader when you program. That is a GUI so it should work easy.
Post by: Cindori on Wed, 18 November 2015, 10:08:28
What is LED control like? Brightness/on-off?
Expected ship time?
This plate fits? (http://"https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-aluminum-plate")
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 18 November 2015, 10:41:10
Sounds very nice but how is OS X compatibility? Once it's programmed in the bootloader (i'm assuming windows .exe) it persists across reboots and other OS?
What is LED control like? Brightness/on-off?
Expected ship time?
This plate fits? (http://"https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-aluminum-plate")
Yes i think they even have a program for OSX(i am not 100% sure).
>What is LED control like? Brightness/on-off?
I think breathe effect and typing(vibrant leds) not typing(leds off) is a feature.
Expected shipping time is 2 months after GB close.(29th of November)
Post by: tDr1v3r on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:51:33
Just for curiosity, how hard is it to write a working layout to the PCB? I want to use a mix of ISO and ANSI - long Enter and the 1.25 Shift with the extra 1u key, and the same fn layer I know and love on my Pok3r.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:58:49
I've joined too.
Just for curiosity, how hard is it to write a working layout to the PCB? I want to use a mix of ISO and ANSI - long Enter and the 1.25 Shift with the extra 1u key, and the same fn layer I know and love on my Pok3r.
This (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0) is an excellent post explaining how the keymapping works on the Winkeyless boards. It is fairly straight forward guide, i am sure you can make the layout you are asking for.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 18 November 2015, 13:07:31
Yes i think they even have a program for OSX(i am not 100% sure).Works with OSX just like a pok3r does. The control, windows, etc. just function as their mac equivalents.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 20 November 2015, 14:02:08
Tier 1 PCB (diodes + controller parts) = 49$
Tier 2 PCB (diodes, controller parts and resistors) = 59$
Tier 3 PCB (diodes, controller parts, resistors and RGB underglow parts) = 78$
I have also removed the (+2$) on the steel plates. They are now just 30$, like the aluminium plates.
I hope this helps even more people joining the GB. Please invite your family, friends and colleagues to join!
PS: The expected shipping time is reduced from 2 months after invoicing to 1,5 months :)
Post by: MarkRobbo on Fri, 20 November 2015, 15:22:45
Good experience with Leandren last round.
Post by: cryptokey on Fri, 20 November 2015, 15:46:08
Post by: priyadi on Fri, 20 November 2015, 17:04:23
So since it uses FaceW firmware, then it's not Linux compatible? I'm very interested in this buy, however I primarily use Linux so I want to make sure everything will work. Also, is there a picture of the gunmetal plate anywhere?
From my understanding, the keyboard will work under Linux. But in order to reprogram it, it will be necessary to use Windows.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 20 November 2015, 17:05:48
Nice :D Would certainly recommend this buy especially with that steel plate and PCB cost reduction.Thanks :)
Good experience with Leandren last round.
Post by: MarkRobbo on Fri, 20 November 2015, 17:10:53
So since it uses FaceW firmware, then it's not Linux compatible? I'm very interested in this buy, however I primarily use Linux so I want to make sure everything will work. Also, is there a picture of the gunmetal plate anywhere?
From my understanding, the keyboard will work under Linux. But in order to reprogram it, it will be necessary to use Windows.
Correct, as far as I know. If anyone finds a way to flash on Linux that would be helpful for me.
But, of course, it would work fine under linux. It's sending the same key codes
Post by: cjhard on Fri, 20 November 2015, 17:30:12
Post by: priyadi on Sat, 21 November 2015, 00:23:24
Correct, as far as I know. If anyone finds a way to flash on Linux that would be helpful for me.
But, of course, it would work fine under linux. It's sending the same key codes
Someone will need to work on this: https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU . This also might be helpful: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/186
Unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with these stuff. And the FaceW firmware also doesn't support SpaceFn which I require, so I've given up and will only get a board supported by TMK for now.
Post by: priyadi on Sat, 21 November 2015, 00:27:49
Would not dfu-programmer (http://dfu-programmer.github.io/) work?
No it won't. dfu programmer requires chip with integrated USB. CMIIW.
Post by: flabbergast on Sat, 21 November 2015, 11:35:46
Once you have the hex file:
1) Put the board into the bootloader mode (hold Q and plug in the board). It enumerates as "bootloadHID" - that's the bootloader these boards use.
2) Use the bootloadHID command line program to upload the hex to the board.
You can either compile bootloadHID yourself from sources; or for mac os x I've already uploaded once a binary (compiled on my machine) that you can just unpack and use here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60887.msg1838380#msg1838380). (I can probably also make linux binaries if someone needs.)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 21 November 2015, 21:39:12
Here are some interesting information.I'm surprised no one ordered orange?
This is a pie chart of all the plates that is ordered. Seems like people want plain colors, or purple, red or blue.
Cool to see that many orders of steel plates.
Keep the orders coming ! :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/dBAIzsX.jpg)
I'm thinking of joining this gb. If most likely go for orange.
Post by: kakakowie on Sat, 21 November 2015, 21:50:56
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 22 November 2015, 01:52:25
Yeah I have some orders for orange now.Here are some interesting information.I'm surprised no one ordered orange?
This is a pie chart of all the plates that is ordered. Seems like people want plain colors, or purple, red or blue.
Cool to see that many orders of steel plates.
Keep the orders coming ! :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/dBAIzsX.jpg)
I'm thinking of joining this gb. If most likely go for orange.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 22 November 2015, 01:52:46
Hmm. Are those layouts the only possible ones? Are there any other possible layouts?Only the ones pictured
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 22 November 2015, 03:27:53
Hmm. Are those layouts the only possible ones? Are there any other possible layouts?Should be plenty.
Post by: beltet on Mon, 23 November 2015, 04:58:44
Looking forward to it!
Post by: ekx on Mon, 23 November 2015, 06:30:14
http://de.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-Keyboard-GH60-plastic-Case-for-60-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatoble-PBT-Keycaps-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/32311183273.html?adminSeq=222366957&shopNumber=1555390
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 23 November 2015, 07:16:53
Would this fit into this case?It does. I own one.
Post by: ekx on Mon, 23 November 2015, 07:19:59
Post by: braidn on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:40:43
It is possible to (re-)program faceW PCBs both in linux and on mac os x. First, to get a hex file with your preferred keymap, just use the online flash thingy here: http://winkeyless.kr/bootMapper/
Once you have the hex file:
1) Put the board into the bootloader mode (hold Q and plug in the board). It enumerates as "bootloadHID" - that's the bootloader these boards use.
2) Use the bootloadHID command line program to upload the hex to the board.
You can either compile bootloadHID yourself from sources; or for mac os x I've already uploaded once a binary (compiled on my machine) that you can just unpack and use here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60887.msg1838380#msg1838380). (I can probably also make linux binaries if someone needs.)
Very interesting. This does open up things to the Linux folks. Nice!
Post by: jaesen on Wed, 25 November 2015, 01:43:59
Thanks in advance and I look forward to joining this GB :)
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 25 November 2015, 01:53:23
Just before I order, and I know this question is pretty stupid but can I use plate mounted switches with this plate? I used plated mounted switches on my winkeyless 'plate' and some of the long keys (and even some of the 1u) went on crookedly because the switches for the long buttons just sit on the PCB, not on the plate. I hope this is similar to the poker 2 plate where everything just fits perfectly so there is no room for switch to move. I just want to confirm that the switches sit snug on this plate so no crookedness can occur.
Thanks in advance and I look forward to joining this GB :)
Yes you can use plate mounted switches
Post by: DanielT on Wed, 25 November 2015, 01:58:33
Just before I order, and I know this question is pretty stupid but can I use plate mounted switches with this plate? I used plated mounted switches on my winkeyless 'plate' and some of the long keys (and even some of the 1u) went on crookedly because the switches for the long buttons just sit on the PCB, not on the plate. I hope this is similar to the poker 2 plate where everything just fits perfectly so there is no room for switch to move. I just want to confirm that the switches sit snug on this plate so no crookedness can occur.
Thanks in advance and I look forward to joining this GB :)
I can tell you from my own experience with this plate, for the switches that have a bigger opening in the plate you are better off with some PCB mounted switches. They will sit better and you won't get crooked switches. Because of the way the plate is designed to accommodate as many layouts as possible this can not be avoided. The Poker plate lets you use only one layout.
But this is only a minor drawback considering the quality of the plate and layout flexibility, not to mention the fact that you can open switch tops.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 25 November 2015, 11:37:37
4 days left !
Time to get your friends on this, the more, the better :)
LeandreN
Post by: cjhard on Wed, 25 November 2015, 11:56:26
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 25 November 2015, 12:33:18
Can I add a second PCB w/ soldering and double my switches and stabs qty from whatever it was I ordered? I really like PCB mount now, but I also want one with plate because metal shiny and purple.
Sure ! I added.
Post by: chancellorr on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:42:29
Post by: ika on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:47:16
Trying to decide on a silver or purple plate. Going to be pairing it with JTK debut.
I have both the purple plate and JTK. Unfortunately Leandren's purple plate is a brighter purple than the understated purple of JTK debut. The plate is more like a fuschia color compared to the grape of JTK.
http://i.imgur.com/YON1ThV.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/YON1ThV.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:54:05
Post by: chancellorr on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:57:04
Trying to decide on a silver or purple plate. Going to be pairing it with JTK debut.
I have both the purple plate and JTK. Unfortunately Leandren's purple plate is a brighter purple than the understated purple of JTK debut. The plate is more like a fuschia color compared to the grape of JTK.
http://i.imgur.com/YON1ThV.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/YON1ThV.jpg)
As IKA said, the plate i have have a cooler purple than the JTK set. Nothing that prevents them from matching OK, though.Thank you guys. I'll probably go with silver then.
Post by: Evil-Jester on Wed, 25 November 2015, 21:52:40
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 26 November 2015, 03:03:48
so im getting interesting in making my own 60% so let me get this straight, i would need the PCB with RBG and soldering plus stabilizers. Then add a case, say a GON Skinny 60%, cable and add switches/keys of my choice and i would be good?And a plate, of course.
Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 26 November 2015, 03:06:01
so im getting interesting in making my own 60% so let me get this straight, i would need the PCB with RBG and soldering plus stabilizers. Then add a case, say a GON Skinny 60%, cable and add switches/keys of my choice and i would be good?And a plate, of course.
Wouldn't need a plate with the Gon skinny case.
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/76-thickbox_default/gon-ns-skinny-housing-only.jpg)
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 26 November 2015, 03:11:27
Oops, my bad, I didn't check what the case looked like.so im getting interesting in making my own 60% so let me get this straight, i would need the PCB with RBG and soldering plus stabilizers. Then add a case, say a GON Skinny 60%, cable and add switches/keys of my choice and i would be good?And a plate, of course.
Wouldn't need a plate with the Gon skinny case.Show Image(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/76-thickbox_default/gon-ns-skinny-housing-only.jpg)
Post by: Vimto on Thu, 26 November 2015, 06:47:25
I'm thinking it would be quite fun to build my own keyboard and have a few questions, apologies in advance for any stupid questions
Would this pack be a good one to start for my first keyboard?
How tough will the soldering be? (I've never soldered anything before)
Do i need to do any soldering other than the switches onto the PCB?
The carbon fiber plate looks awesome and definitely want that.
Can anyone recommend any cases (preferably aluminium or metal of some sort that would fit this)?
Would i need to buy anything else other than a case / cable?
Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 26 November 2015, 06:56:03
Fairly new to GeekHack, but have owned 2 HHKB Pro2 keyboards for > 5 years, and just bought hasu's alt keyboard controller which is awesome.
I'm thinking it would be quite fun to build my own keyboard and have a few questions, apologies in advance for any stupid questions
Would this pack be a good one to start for my first keyboard?
How tough will the soldering be? (I've never soldered anything before)
Do i need to do any soldering other than the switches onto the PCB?
The carbon fiber plate looks awesome and definitely want that.
Can anyone recommend any cases (preferably aluminium or metal of some sort that would fit this)?
Would i need to buy anything else other than a case / cable?
If you get a PCB with all the main soldering done, soldering of just the switches is easy. They have big pins and big pads to solder to.
There are loads of cases for 60% keyboards, really depends on what you want. There are low profile ones like the Tex CNC aluminium one (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630), there are thicker/deeper ones like the Hammer style one (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-keyboard-case?mode=guest_open), and there are these flat ones (http://world.taobao.com/item/520463840878.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.IpFlBZ#detail) with removable weights at the back (similar to the LZ case style I think?).
There are a lot more to choose from as well, the 60% design has many different case options.
For things to buy: you need a PCB, (optional) plate, key-switches, case, keycaps, stabilizers, and a cable.
Post by: Vimto on Thu, 26 November 2015, 07:42:21
Fairly new to GeekHack, but have owned 2 HHKB Pro2 keyboards for > 5 years, and just bought hasu's alt keyboard controller which is awesome.
I'm thinking it would be quite fun to build my own keyboard and have a few questions, apologies in advance for any stupid questions
Would this pack be a good one to start for my first keyboard?
How tough will the soldering be? (I've never soldered anything before)
Do i need to do any soldering other than the switches onto the PCB?
The carbon fiber plate looks awesome and definitely want that.
Can anyone recommend any cases (preferably aluminium or metal of some sort that would fit this)?
Would i need to buy anything else other than a case / cable?
If you get a PCB with all the main soldering done, soldering of just the switches is easy. They have big pins and big pads to solder to.
There are loads of cases for 60% keyboards, really depends on what you want. There are low profile ones like the Tex CNC aluminium one (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630), there are thicker/deeper ones like the Hammer style one (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-keyboard-case?mode=guest_open), and there are these flat ones (http://world.taobao.com/item/520463840878.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.IpFlBZ#detail) with removable weights at the back (similar to the LZ case style I think?).
There are a lot more to choose from as well, the 60% design has many different case options.
For things to buy: you need a PCB, (optional) plate, key-switches, case, keycaps, stabilizers, and a cable.
Thanks so much for the quick reply, have to decide on case / keycaps and if the plate is really needed or not (i just love carbon fiber), but not sure how much of it would show.
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 26 November 2015, 08:32:27
Fairly new to GeekHack, but have owned 2 HHKB Pro2 keyboards for > 5 years, and just bought hasu's alt keyboard controller which is awesome.
I'm thinking it would be quite fun to build my own keyboard and have a few questions, apologies in advance for any stupid questions
Would this pack be a good one to start for my first keyboard?
How tough will the soldering be? (I've never soldered anything before)
Do i need to do any soldering other than the switches onto the PCB?
The carbon fiber plate looks awesome and definitely want that.
Can anyone recommend any cases (preferably aluminium or metal of some sort that would fit this)?
Would i need to buy anything else other than a case / cable?
If you get a PCB with all the main soldering done, soldering of just the switches is easy. They have big pins and big pads to solder to.
There are loads of cases for 60% keyboards, really depends on what you want. There are low profile ones like the Tex CNC aluminium one (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630), there are thicker/deeper ones like the Hammer style one (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-keyboard-case?mode=guest_open), and there are these flat ones (http://world.taobao.com/item/520463840878.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.IpFlBZ#detail) with removable weights at the back (similar to the LZ case style I think?).
There are a lot more to choose from as well, the 60% design has many different case options.
For things to buy: you need a PCB, (optional) plate, key-switches, case, keycaps, stabilizers, and a cable.
Thanks so much for the quick reply, have to decide on case / keycaps and if the plate is really needed or not (i just love carbon fiber), but not sure how much of it would show.
I always tell people that a plate is worth it because it completely changes the feel of the whole keyboard. If you can't afford the carbon fiber one, i suggest going with steel if you want your board really heavy, or aluminium if you are going to carry it around.
Post by: Numpy on Thu, 26 November 2015, 13:53:42
Fairly new to GeekHack, but have owned 2 HHKB Pro2 keyboards for > 5 years, and just bought hasu's alt keyboard controller which is awesome.
I'm thinking it would be quite fun to build my own keyboard and have a few questions, apologies in advance for any stupid questions
Would this pack be a good one to start for my first keyboard?
How tough will the soldering be? (I've never soldered anything before)
Do i need to do any soldering other than the switches onto the PCB?
The carbon fiber plate looks awesome and definitely want that.
Can anyone recommend any cases (preferably aluminium or metal of some sort that would fit this)?
Would i need to buy anything else other than a case / cable?
If you get a PCB with all the main soldering done, soldering of just the switches is easy. They have big pins and big pads to solder to.
There are loads of cases for 60% keyboards, really depends on what you want. There are low profile ones like the Tex CNC aluminium one (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=630), there are thicker/deeper ones like the Hammer style one (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-keyboard-case?mode=guest_open), and there are these flat ones (http://world.taobao.com/item/520463840878.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.IpFlBZ#detail) with removable weights at the back (similar to the LZ case style I think?).
There are a lot more to choose from as well, the 60% design has many different case options.
For things to buy: you need a PCB, (optional) plate, key-switches, case, keycaps, stabilizers, and a cable.
Thanks so much for the quick reply, have to decide on case / keycaps and if the plate is really needed or not (i just love carbon fiber), but not sure how much of it would show.
I always tell people that a plate is worth it because it completely changes the feel of the whole keyboard. If you can't afford the carbon fiber one, i suggest going with steel if you want your board really heavy, or aluminium if you are going to carry it around.
Does the carbon fiber plate actually feel any different to the aluminium ones or is it jusr an aesthetic change?
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 26 November 2015, 13:58:42
Does the carbon fiber plate actually feel any different to the aluminium ones or is it jusr an aesthetic change?
Yes.
Much difference? No.
It makes the switches feel a little "sharper" becuause the carbon fiber is stiffer than aluminium. It is also much less likely to bend when you place it in. Light, solid and sharper is the way i describe it.
Post by: ulrik52 on Thu, 26 November 2015, 15:48:53
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 26 November 2015, 16:06:59
I want in C: if it's still open that is, and i do not want the leds, so the stainless steel plate, and the pre soldered PCB with the stabilizers i think, if the stabilizers are stabilizers for space, shift and enter-esque keys
Hey !
It is open until sunday. Presoldered PCB will support switch leds as an option later if you choose "tier 2". Stabilisers are as described.
PS: I can solder switches / assemble the board for you if you don't want to do it yourself, but then i need switches, i charge 15$ for that.
Post by: kiwi24x on Thu, 26 November 2015, 16:27:46
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 26 November 2015, 16:32:51
Oh I see. Do you happen to charge extra for presoldering in-switch LEDs? Or do you just not do it at all? Just wondering...
I can do that too, but i don't have any LEDs in this GB or in stock.
Post by: Numpy on Thu, 26 November 2015, 19:44:04
I want in C: if it's still open that is, and i do not want the leds, so the stainless steel plate, and the pre soldered PCB with the stabilizers i think, if the stabilizers are stabilizers for space, shift and enter-esque keys
Hey !
It is open until sunday. Presoldered PCB will support switch leds as an option later if you choose "tier 2". Stabilisers are as described.
PS: I can solder switches / assemble the board for you if you don't want to do it yourself, but then i need switches, i charge 15$ for that.
Does the tier 2 PCB support rgb lighting for switch (front facing) LEDs?
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 November 2015, 19:47:49
Does the tier 2 PCB support rgb lighting for switch (front facing) LEDs?
The PCB only has 2 holes/pads for in-switch LEDs, which tells you that it does not support RGB LEDs in-switch. That would typically require 4 holes/pads. I don't know of any hobbyist PCBs which would support those.
Post by: Numpy on Fri, 27 November 2015, 01:54:42
Cheers,Does the tier 2 PCB support rgb lighting for switch (front facing) LEDs?
The PCB only has 2 holes/pads for in-switch LEDs, which tells you that it does not support RGB LEDs in-switch. That would typically require 4 holes/pads. I don't know of any hobbyist PCBs which would support those.
So you're saying the Tier 3 PCB would not allow for RGB LEDs on the switches and the Tier 2 PCB would still allow for non-RGB LEDs on the switches?
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 27 November 2015, 02:06:03
Tier 2 can have normal 1 color LEDs in the switch. Tier 3 can have normal one color LEDs in the switch + RGB underglow.Cheers,Does the tier 2 PCB support rgb lighting for switch (front facing) LEDs?
The PCB only has 2 holes/pads for in-switch LEDs, which tells you that it does not support RGB LEDs in-switch. That would typically require 4 holes/pads. I don't know of any hobbyist PCBs which would support those.
So you're saying the Tier 3 PCB would not allow for RGB LEDs on the switches and the Tier 2 PCB would still allow for non-RGB LEDs on the switches?
Post by: Numpy on Fri, 27 November 2015, 03:53:40
Thanks for clarifying, I understand now ;DTier 2 can have normal 1 color LEDs in the switch. Tier 3 can have normal one color LEDs in the switch + RGB underglow.Cheers,Does the tier 2 PCB support rgb lighting for switch (front facing) LEDs?
The PCB only has 2 holes/pads for in-switch LEDs, which tells you that it does not support RGB LEDs in-switch. That would typically require 4 holes/pads. I don't know of any hobbyist PCBs which would support those.
So you're saying the Tier 3 PCB would not allow for RGB LEDs on the switches and the Tier 2 PCB would still allow for non-RGB LEDs on the switches?
Post by: ulrik52 on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:13:32
I want in C: if it's still open that is, and i do not want the leds, so the stainless steel plate, and the pre soldered PCB with the stabilizers i think, if the stabilizers are stabilizers for space, shift and enter-esque keys
Hey !
It is open until sunday. Presoldered PCB will support switch leds as an option later if you choose "tier 2". Stabilisers are as described.
PS: I can solder switches / assemble the board for you if you don't want to do it yourself, but then i need switches, i charge 15$ for that.
Nah, I want to solder the switches myself, you can't have all the fun :P Do i need to do something else than just replying here to order? Are there different PCB's? i thought there was only one but now i have the impression that there is one which supports in switch leds, and on that doesn't? Is the tier 1 PCB the one in your video with purple switches? (this one: )
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:15:12
I want in C: if it's still open that is, and i do not want the leds, so the stainless steel plate, and the pre soldered PCB with the stabilizers i think, if the stabilizers are stabilizers for space, shift and enter-esque keys
Hey !
It is open until sunday. Presoldered PCB will support switch leds as an option later if you choose "tier 2". Stabilisers are as described.
PS: I can solder switches / assemble the board for you if you don't want to do it yourself, but then i need switches, i charge 15$ for that.
Nah, I want to solder the switches myself, you can't have all the fun :P Do i need to do something else than just replying here to order? Are there different PCB's? i thought there was only one but now i have the impression that there is one which supports in switch leds, and on that doesn't? Is the tier 1 PCB the one in your video with purple switches? (this one: )
Here is the order form, the PCB in the video would be the same as a Tier 2 PCB.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1neYkvBR47Q5VMC68DaDbBEazjza0fBx5epGJY3z-6fs/viewform
Post by: chancellorr on Fri, 27 November 2015, 08:40:03
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 27 November 2015, 11:33:36
Post by: potatowire on Fri, 27 November 2015, 15:19:31
Hi,, I have filled the order form.. Is the invoice will come after order closed or it should be received in an instant?
Not instantly, and probably near the end or after it closes.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 27 November 2015, 15:35:50
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 27 November 2015, 17:42:59
I have a B.face X2 kit already but I can't really wait 8 weeks to put it together.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 November 2015, 17:44:47
Can the plate be installed on an existing keyboard without desoldering the switches?Nope, I would wait if I were you. Switches are installed into the plate, then soldered to the pcb.
I have a B.face X2 kit already but I can't really wait 8 weeks to put it together.
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 27 November 2015, 20:11:57
Post by: Numpy on Fri, 27 November 2015, 20:41:05
how many stabilizers do I need for 60% kb? Im afraid I put less than its needed..You only need 1 set.
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 27 November 2015, 20:48:23
how many stabilizers do I need for 60% kb? Im afraid I put less than its needed..You only need 1 set.
aah thanks for that..
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 27 November 2015, 21:14:09
PS: The expected shipping time is reduced from 2 months after invoicing to 1,5 months :)
OP still says 8 weeks, shouldn't that be updated?
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 27 November 2015, 21:48:52
Post by: Numpy on Fri, 27 November 2015, 21:58:55
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 27 November 2015, 22:09:12
Post by: cjhard on Fri, 27 November 2015, 22:32:32
Is it too late to change my order? I've decided on a different PCB.
They're all the same PCB, just parts pre-soldered for you into the higher tiers.
Post by: Numpy on Fri, 27 November 2015, 22:53:04
Yeah, I understand but I was under the impression that the Tier 3 PCB supported RGB in switch LEDs and I'm not that keen on the underglow so I want to change my order from the Tier 3 PCB to the Tier 2 PCB.Is it too late to change my order? I've decided on a different PCB.
They're all the same PCB, just parts pre-soldered for you into the higher tiers.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 28 November 2015, 05:04:25
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 28 November 2015, 05:05:34
Placed my order. Just waiting on my invoice. :]
Invoice early next week :)
Post by: Tachi on Sat, 28 November 2015, 07:12:55
Really wanting some switches but running low on cash to justify a spare plate since I have one of your round 1 plates sitting waiting for a build!
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 28 November 2015, 07:18:45
Do you need people to buy plates and PCBs or are you happy for people to get just stabs and switches?That's fine, especially since you have a round 1 plate :D
Really wanting some switches but running low on cash to justify a spare plate since I have one of your round 1 plates sitting waiting for a build!
Post by: faxe on Sat, 28 November 2015, 10:17:01
Post by: Tunz on Sat, 28 November 2015, 17:07:13
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 28 November 2015, 18:05:12
Ok, 3/3 on LeandreN GB's. 60% final try. :eek:
Strike!
Awesome! Thanks a lot dude :)
Post by: chancellorr on Sat, 28 November 2015, 23:04:14
Post by: nmur on Sat, 28 November 2015, 23:19:37
What would be a good case that plays well with the underglow of the PCB?frosted acrylic cases, such as the TEX one
Post by: cjhard on Sat, 28 November 2015, 23:26:11
Check out the clear 3d printed case at 1UP Keyboards (http://1upkeyboards.com/index.php?cPath=35) (supports Poker-style plates), or the BBB Acrylic case from winkeyless.kr (http://winkeyless.kr/product/bbb_acrylic-case-with-rgb-diffuser/) (case includes plate)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 29 November 2015, 00:05:25
TEX cases will require a modification. The horizontal supports between each row of switches will need to be removed where the RGB LED's are.I thought I could use the rgb version with the tex case.
Check out the clear 3d printed case at 1UP Keyboards (http://1upkeyboards.com/index.php?cPath=35) (supports Poker-style plates), or the BBB Acrylic case from winkeyless.kr (http://winkeyless.kr/product/bbb_acrylic-case-with-rgb-diffuser/) (case includes plate)
What if I got the tier 2 version without the rgb lights?
Could I then use most poker compatible cases?
What about other poker cases?
Post by: cjhard on Sun, 29 November 2015, 00:15:36
If you got without RGB LED's, the components wouldn't interfere with the ridges in the case and you should be able to use any case you want.
A lot of the appeal of this PCB over the FaceW Sprit and mechanicalkeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1351) sells is that RGB back lighting. You'll still have it as an option later if you wanted to solder in some LED's at least.
That said, the Acrylic TEX case can totally still be used, just dremel out slits to give clearance for the RGB LED's.
Post by: longcat on Sun, 29 November 2015, 01:29:41
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 03:45:51
Post by: nmur on Sun, 29 November 2015, 04:32:54
If the case doesn't have those funny ridges, you can use it even with the RGB LED's. I've seen a few nice looking aluminium cases that are just standoffs the PCB sits on top of.
If you got without RGB LED's, the components wouldn't interfere with the ridges in the case and you should be able to use any case you want.
A lot of the appeal of this PCB over the FaceW Sprit and mechanicalkeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1351) sells is that RGB back lighting. You'll still have it as an option later if you wanted to solder in some LED's at least.
That said, the Acrylic TEX case can totally still be used, just dremel out slits to give clearance for the RGB LED's.
Thanks dude. I've just received a TEX acrylic case for this build so this is good to know.
Post by: chancellorr on Sun, 29 November 2015, 06:34:40
If the case doesn't have those funny ridges, you can use it even with the RGB LED's. I've seen a few nice looking aluminium cases that are just standoffs the PCB sits on top of.Thank you. Good thing I have a dremel.
If you got without RGB LED's, the components wouldn't interfere with the ridges in the case and you should be able to use any case you want.
A lot of the appeal of this PCB over the FaceW Sprit and mechanicalkeyboards.com (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1351) sells is that RGB back lighting. You'll still have it as an option later if you wanted to solder in some LED's at least.
That said, the Acrylic TEX case can totally still be used, just dremel out slits to give clearance for the RGB LED's.
Post by: wodan on Sun, 29 November 2015, 07:24:56
Love the layout ...
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 07:41:31
Just ordered a small set, hopefully not too late !!!You are in!
Love the layout ...
Post by: Vimto on Sun, 29 November 2015, 09:36:39
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71551.0
Would the pcb / switches from this group buy work with this case?
Would I need a plate with the afore mentioned case?
Post by: wodan on Sun, 29 November 2015, 09:49:55
Last chance to order now!
Awesome !!! Can I haz invoice please ?
Haven't gotten anything yet :(
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:17:29
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:19:11
I'm going to be getting this group buy caseYes it will work. You will not need a plate.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71551.0
Would the pcb / switches from this group buy work with this case?
Would I need a plate with the afore mentioned case?
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:26:23
Starting invoicing tonight! Some will not get it before the middle of this week. It takes a lot of time.
Sounds like a good opportunity for some scripting! ;D
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:46:53
Starting invoicing tonight! Some will not get it before the middle of this week. It takes a lot of time.
Sounds like a good opportunity for some scripting! ;D
Yeah haha. That takes time too though...
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 29 November 2015, 11:21:04
Join the fun.
(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 11:57:12
Don't miss out guys.
Join the fun.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Awesome! And thanks for your fast payment !
Post by: cjhard on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:39:21
Checked the total
"Oh jeez, what did I just do?"
"Better click Pay Now before I reconsider!"
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:42:11
Got the invoice
Checked the total
"Oh jeez, what did I just do?"
"Better click Pay Now before I reconsider!"
haha !
You should double check though, as everything is manually entered!
Post by: cjhard on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:56:19
Post by: Vimto on Sun, 29 November 2015, 13:37:49
Going for a Tier 3, which i'm hoping will look good with the Carbon Fiber case.
Hopefully soldering the switches will be easy (never soldered before, so any tips welcome)
Thanks for the awesome groupbuy
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 13:44:11
Just filled in my order.
Going for a Tier 3, which i'm hoping will look good with the Carbon Fiber case.
Hopefully soldering the switches will be easy (never soldered before, so any tips welcome)
Thanks for the awesome groupbuy
Thanks for the order! Let me know if you have any questions !
You can follow the progress of your order here:
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eHTkuk4TNCe5ozR7Rt_awH0E57Wb8s3zvJ1oc2uC3Eg/edit#gid=0&vpid=A1
Post by: Sisric on Sun, 29 November 2015, 13:53:39
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:00:27
Just put my order in. Hopefully I wasn't too late! Gonna be getting a TEX Acrylic case for this... Hopefully I can find a dremel to take what I need off!
You are in !
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:07:30
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:24:08
LeandreN, I sent you a PM. Looks like there was some confusion with my order. Once we fix it, I'll be ready to pay! :)
Not a confusion, just me not doing my job.
Updated it :)
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:29:57
Post by: lashiel on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:32:54
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 29 November 2015, 14:36:22
Entered for PCB and stabs. Hopefully not too late!Not to late, but you will get an invoice a little later probably.
Post by: lashiel on Sun, 29 November 2015, 15:10:32
Entered for PCB and stabs. Hopefully not too late!Not to late, but you will get an invoice a little later probably.
All good. Thanks LeandreN!
Post by: nmur on Sun, 29 November 2015, 16:58:52
I feel special :3
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 30 November 2015, 01:41:44
Post by: Vimto on Mon, 30 November 2015, 01:58:56
Apologies some more newbie question? Do i need to tell you the layout i want if i'm getting the tier 3 pcb with presoldered diodes / led's?
Does this PC support the Happy Layout as mentioned on the carbon fiber case I'm getting in the other group buy? I'm not sure which layout i'm going for yet.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 30 November 2015, 02:03:23
Hi,
Apologies some more newbie question? Do i need to tell you the layout i want if i'm getting the tier 3 pcb with presoldered diodes / led's?
Does this PC support the Happy Layout as mentioned on the carbon fiber case I'm getting in the other group buy? I'm not sure which layout i'm going for yet.
You do not need to tell the layout ahead of time, you will determine that when you solder the switches, and this plate supports just about any 60%-based layout you can imagine, so yes, it supports happy. It should work just fine with hwood's cf cases.
Post by: Sisric on Mon, 30 November 2015, 05:57:51
I'm excited for everyone who's gotten in on this, as it's probably your first custom build for a lot of you! Have fun everyone, it's an adventure. :thumb:
It's going to be my first... I'm both scared that I will mess something up and very excited :)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 06:52:50
Those who ordered a tier 2 PCB. Would it be a problem for you if RGB parts were added, for free? IF NOT, you have to tell me now.
I know this seems unfair to those who ordered a fully soldered PCB. I will be refunding what i can at the end.
This makes the process much faster and simpler for Winkeyless. I am already loosing money on the sales, so please let me know your ideas.
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 30 November 2015, 07:36:08
(https://media.giphy.com/media/wi8Ez1mwRcKGI/giphy.gif)
Post by: faxe on Mon, 30 November 2015, 07:57:22
Post by: skarhead on Mon, 30 November 2015, 08:04:18
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 30 November 2015, 08:18:27
Post by: reddragon394 on Mon, 30 November 2015, 09:22:10
any way to prevent you from losing money? dont think anyone wants you to have disadvantages!
Post by: dae1 on Mon, 30 November 2015, 09:34:53
I ordered 3rd Tier, but i wouldn't mind. How would that go down though? everybody pays 2nd Tier and everyone gets 3rd Tier?
any way to prevent you from losing money? dont think anyone wants you to have disadvantages!
I emailed LeandreN about this and the response was that we will get the refund of the cost of the rgb leds.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 09:40:12
I will look at this at the end. 19$ refund per PCB tier 3. A lot of people have offered to not get a refund, which is amazing.I ordered 3rd Tier, but i wouldn't mind. How would that go down though? everybody pays 2nd Tier and everyone gets 3rd Tier?
any way to prevent you from losing money? dont think anyone wants you to have disadvantages!
I emailed LeandreN about this and the response was that we will get the refund of the cost of the rgb leds.
Thanks for all the positive response, I will make a update tonight and we can get this GB going !
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 30 November 2015, 09:59:10
A lot of people have offered to not get a refund, which is amazing.
I hope that more people end up doing this and that the tier2 buyers could also upgrade to tier3. There is only a $19 difference between the two tiers which is relatively small for the individual GB participant, but if this cost gets unloaded on the organizer, it would be a significant burden. LeandreN already puts a significant amount of work into the buy and I'd like there to be future rounds of his buys!
I realize that it is probably also unfair to GB participants to have sudden price changes, but then again, this isn't a store, so some hiccups should be expected (see the stickied posts).
I realize that I am quite new here, and hope I don't offend anyone by saying this. LeandreN and the other participants are free to make their own choices, of course! :)
Post by: reddragon394 on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:06:37
Quote from: LeandreN
A lot of people have offered to not get a refund, which is amazing.
i havent gotten my invoice yet (i know it will come, dont feel rushed!) but i suggest putting both prices in there, so people can decide :D i would not want you to lose money and i surely will consider paying the normal price too :)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:17:17
Quote from: LeandreNA lot of people have offered to not get a refund, which is amazing.
i havent gotten my invoice yet (i know it will come, dont feel rushed!) but i suggest putting both prices in there, so people can decide :D i would not want you to lose money and i surely will consider paying the normal price too :)
I will have everyone pay 100% now and refund when the GB is over.
Post by: axtran on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:43:09
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:47:20
Sounds good to me. :) Only issue I see is around whether or not the case that everyone will end up using can fit in the RGB LEDs (mine can!). :)
Do you have a list or something of those who can or cannot support the RGB LEDs?
Post by: reddragon394 on Mon, 30 November 2015, 10:51:25
if all fails i would think desoldering an SMD should be way easier then soldering them on :D (if one wants to do that)
Post by: cjhard on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:02:23
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:16:36
However, if I am in the minority and adding RGB parts to every PCB is easier, then that's fine with me.
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:22:32
Sounds good to me. :) Only issue I see is around whether or not the case that everyone will end up using can fit in the RGB LEDs (mine can!). :)
Do you have a list or something of those who can or cannot support the RGB LEDs?
Based on my research for my B.face build:
- Anything Tex would have to be modified
- Stock pok3r cases may also need modding?
- Basically anything with the horizontal stiffener ridges would need modification
- I've been told that this case (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lambo-60-anodized-aluminum-case?mode=guest_open) will work (at least I hope so, since thats what i bought)
- Cases from Ziptyze (the 3d printed ones) should not need modding
- Winkeyless acrylic cases would obviously not need modifications
Post by: romevi on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:28:41
Sounds good to me. :) Only issue I see is around whether or not the case that everyone will end up using can fit in the RGB LEDs (mine can!). :)
Do you have a list or something of those who can or cannot support the RGB LEDs?
Based on my research for my B.face build:
- Anything Tex would have to be modified
- Stock pok3r cases may also need modding?
- Basically anything with the horizontal stiffener ridges would need modification
- I've been told that this case (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lambo-60-anodized-aluminum-case?mode=guest_open) will work (at least I hope so, since thats what i bought)
- Cases from Ziptyze (the 3d printed ones) should not need modding
- Winkeyless acrylic cases would obviously not need modifications
Bought the Lambo for the B.face too. Should be coming in today. Also got an acrylic case from TB that has those ridges. It's not a Tex case, but we'll see if it needs modification.
If I don't have a Dremel, is there any other way to modify the case without hassle?
Post by: lashiel on Mon, 30 November 2015, 11:31:40
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 12:02:11
Now please fill out this. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1oULcd84-BRpWNGoOQKNiNrrdbXXYPU_EdNqmshXhGVI/viewform?usp=send_form)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 12:14:34
Better get started on those. Haha :D
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 30 November 2015, 12:52:48
That will be many "thank you notes".By haste (I'm still at work), I forgot to leave my thank you note there so I'll drop one here.
Thanks a lot for all you've done in these three rounds. It's always been great.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 12:56:49
That will be many "thank you notes".By haste (I'm still at work), I forgot to leave my thank you note there so I'll drop one here.
Thanks a lot for all you've done in these three rounds. It's always been great.
It is my job to deliver "thank you" notes, haha ;)
Thanks though!
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 30 November 2015, 13:06:30
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 13:35:00
Hey, will I have to clip and lube the stabs like in your video LeandreN?
No, but you can for better feels :)
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 30 November 2015, 13:45:13
Hmmm. I do like better feels.Hey, will I have to clip and lube the stabs like in your video LeandreN?
No, but you can for better feels :)
Post by: Vimto on Mon, 30 November 2015, 13:56:35
Thanks for the awesome groupbuy
My question is, i'm in the other group buy to get the carbon fibre case I mentioned earlier, and now I'm getting worried that the LED's might not fit.
How easy will it be to remove the LED's if necessary?
You mentioned you could do the soldering of the switches for a fee, but I guess that would require you to have the plate. Is that right?
Sorry building this keyboard is all new to me.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 14:00:08
I've ordered a Tier 3 PCB, and just filled in the form to say I will continue to pay the Tier 3 price.
Thanks for the awesome groupbuy
My question is, i'm in the other group buy to get the carbon fibre case I mentioned earlier, and now I'm getting worried that the LED's might not fit.
How easy will it be to remove the LED's if necessary?
You mentioned you could do the soldering of the switches for a fee, but I guess that would require you to have the plate. Is that right?
Sorry building this keyboard is all new to me.
Thank you !
The RGB LEDs are under, and i am 99% sure they will fit. They are pretty easy to remove with a soldering iron and a tweezer. I can solder the switches for you, but then i need the plate...
Post by: Vimto on Mon, 30 November 2015, 14:02:50
Will probably be asking more stupid questions when I actually have to build it. Apologies in advance. ;D
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 14:06:56
Thanks for the info. Just paid the invoice, thanks for all your effort
Will probably be asking more stupid questions when I actually have to build it. Apologies in advance. ;D
No problem, just fire the questions !
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:43:43
Post by: Zealousy on Mon, 30 November 2015, 22:06:10
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:41:14
I plan on putting this in an aluminum TEX case, would the RGB soldering etc. get in the way of mounting the PCB inside? If so, then I'll respond to leave mine tier 2. Otherwise, free upgrade is free!It might be a problem. Respond to the form accordingly.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 01 December 2015, 01:16:51
Still 15 unpaid invoices. I would like to see these paid by the weeks end so I can order the plates :)
Gaterons are also ordered, but not paid.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 01 December 2015, 01:34:58
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 01 December 2015, 01:43:27
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 01 December 2015, 01:59:55
Thanks! It is decided. This is the best way.I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Now please fill out this. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1oULcd84-BRpWNGoOQKNiNrrdbXXYPU_EdNqmshXhGVI/viewform?usp=send_form)
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 01 December 2015, 02:05:13
Thanks! It is decided. This is the best way.I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Now please fill out this. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1oULcd84-BRpWNGoOQKNiNrrdbXXYPU_EdNqmshXhGVI/viewform?usp=send_form)
The tier 2 choice on the survey does not guarantee you a tier 2 PCB. It is only a few tier 2s available. I am sorry. You can refund the order, or keep the tier 3 and sell it(recommended).
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 01 December 2015, 02:11:27
Thanks! It is decided. This is the best way.I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Now please fill out this. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1oULcd84-BRpWNGoOQKNiNrrdbXXYPU_EdNqmshXhGVI/viewform?usp=send_form)
The tier 2 choice on the survey does not guarantee you a tier 2 PCB. It is only a few tier 2s available. I am sorry. You can refund the order, or keep the tier 3 and sell it(recommended).
:( Ahh... I do understand that this will make it an easier GB overall and do thank you for being a responsive GB leader.
How difficult is it to de-solder these components? (no past experience soldering but am going to solder on my switches)
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 01 December 2015, 02:14:40
Fill out the form either way.Thanks! It is decided. This is the best way.I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Now please fill out this. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1oULcd84-BRpWNGoOQKNiNrrdbXXYPU_EdNqmshXhGVI/viewform?usp=send_form)
The tier 2 choice on the survey does not guarantee you a tier 2 PCB. It is only a few tier 2s available. I am sorry. You can refund the order, or keep the tier 3 and sell it(recommended).
:( Ahh... I do understand that this will make it an easier GB overall and do thank you for being a responsive GB leader.
How difficult is it to de-solder these components? (no past experience soldering but am going to solder on my switches)
Desoldering should be okay with a tweezer and soldering iron, however I am sure some people will trade a RGB board for a non RGB board on mechmarket :)
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 01 December 2015, 02:19:23
Yep, filled out the form. Could you perharps reference a source you think is particularly good at instructing how to solder/de-solder?Fill out the form either way.Thanks! It is decided. This is the best way.I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Now please fill out this. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1oULcd84-BRpWNGoOQKNiNrrdbXXYPU_EdNqmshXhGVI/viewform?usp=send_form)
The tier 2 choice on the survey does not guarantee you a tier 2 PCB. It is only a few tier 2s available. I am sorry. You can refund the order, or keep the tier 3 and sell it(recommended).
:( Ahh... I do understand that this will make it an easier GB overall and do thank you for being a responsive GB leader.
How difficult is it to de-solder these components? (no past experience soldering but am going to solder on my switches)
Desoldering should be okay with a tweezer and soldering iron, however I am sure some people will trade a RGB board for a non RGB board on mechmarket :)
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 01 December 2015, 02:46:52
Could you perharps reference a source you think is particularly good at instructing how to solder/de-solder?There's no particular instruction to follow, just some advices.
Use a small tip, the smaller the better.
Desolder one end at time.
Hold the component with the tweezers and either pull it up or twist it a bit while desoldering. It will come off the PCB.
If you are careful, you can desolder without damaging the components themselves.
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 01 December 2015, 02:54:59
Thanks for this, hopefully this will come in handy :)Could you perharps reference a source you think is particularly good at instructing how to solder/de-solder?There's no particular instruction to follow, just some advices.
Use a small tip, the smaller the better.
Desolder one end at time.
Hold the component with the tweezers and either pull it up or twist it a bit while desoldering. It will come off the PCB.
If you are careful, you can desolder without damaging the components themselves.
Post by: trees on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:07:28
I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Get it without the RGB. It took some very serious modification to get my B.face + RGB in a TEX case.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:10:29
I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Get it without the RGB. It took some very serious modification to get my B.face + RGB in a TEX case.
Thanks for the confirmation!
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:23:19
Just sent the payment to Winkeyless. They are starting the production now.I will be paying later today when I get home from work.
Still 15 unpaid invoices. I would like to see these paid by the weeks end so I can order the plates :)
Gaterons are also ordered, but not paid.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:28:50
I have got a lot of payments, still about 10 remaining for Paypal and a couple SEPA/bank transfers i haven't invoiced.
Why did you remove the tier 2 PCB?
The PCB orders suprised me, a lot more RGB boards than anticipated. Winkeyless is going to factory solder all the PCBs. To reduce time, and cost for them, and me, they asked me to remove the tier 2 options and give them tier 3 for free.
2 problems:
1.RGB parts doesn't fit some cases, like the TEX acrylic one. It requires modificaton of the case. It is because of the ridges inside the case.
2. Tier 3 PCB buyers are paying more for the same product as the tier 2 buyers.
Solutions fot tier 2 users
1. They will still send me 10 tier 2 PCBs. Those will go to the people that filled the form and REALLY couldn't settle with the tier 3 PCB. I had to really beg them for this, i really appericate Winkeyless' work!
2. Trade the PCB on classifieds or /r/mechmarket. I am sure some people will trade their non-RGB boards for a RGB one.
3. Refund the PCB (not ideal for me, but i want people to be satisfied)
Solutions fot tier 3 users
1. Keep the tier 3 as it is
2. Refund 19$ to match the tier 2 price (not ideal for me, but i want people to be satisfied)
The GB will hopefully ship faster, and will reduce the massive cost of these PCBs for me.
Thanks for your consideration!
Post by: nmur on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:45:47
Post by: romevi on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:52:03
http://world.taobao.com/item/45583909127.htm?fromSite=main&spm=2014.21146508.0.0
There are ridges, and they do seem to align with the RGB strips, but I can't tell if they touch because of the height of the screw holes and the angle of the board. Some of the ridges have notches in them as if to accommodate RGB LEDs, but in other areas they don't. If they do touch, they must not touch very much because I'm still to work the LEDs without issue and they don't seem to be bothered by the ridges.
It's not the world's sturdiest case, but it does the job and, for less than $10, I just threw it with the rest of my TB proxy order.
Post by: f1xedgear on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:53:55
I'm still a little confused. As I am going to use a TEX aluminium case, am I still able to have a PCB without the RGB soldering if I select Tier 2 on this survey?
Get it without the RGB. It took some very serious modification to get my B.face + RGB in a TEX case.
Just as another data point, You will be more likely to:
- have or know someone who has a dremel tool to grind down the case ridges
- The proper skills to desolder the RGB LEDs with a soldering pencil
- A soldering tweezers
Desoldering the LEDs with a regular soldering pencil will be difficult because the LEDs have 2 pins on each side which have to be heated at as close to the same time as possible so you don't lift pads/traces off the PCB or burn the PCB while trying to heat the opposite side of the LED through the LED itself.
Pictures of the LEDs for reference:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/VxnztC9.jpg)
Given the choice between disfiguring the inside of the case (which won't be visible when the keyboard is assembled) or potentially damaging the PCB (and rendering it unusable), I'd definitely choose modding the case. That way you will also still have the RGBs available should you ever want an acrylic case instead.
Post by: nmur on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:59:59
I actually have a TEX case here awaiting the pcb, so I think I'm gonna try and just mod the case. tbh though I am surprised to see the size of the RGB components, as that don't look too large, so it must be a close fit even without them.
EDIT I guess those horizontal supports are literally meant to hold up the pcb between the rows of switches, which would indeed make it a tight fit
Post by: tominabox1 on Tue, 01 December 2015, 10:05:00
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Tue, 01 December 2015, 10:28:13
I have paid, but the google docs still not updated yet.
Same here. Just want to confirm that payment was received.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 01 December 2015, 10:36:02
I have paid, but the google docs still not updated yet.
Same here. Just want to confirm that payment was received.
Updating now !
Post by: trees on Tue, 01 December 2015, 11:18:15
does anyone have images of the TEX case modified to fit the RGB strips of the pcb?
Nmur, my boards at home but remind me in a few hours ill take some pics.
You also have to think about the lines shorting out your board, it took 2 layers of electrical tape for mine to stop.
Post by: axtran on Tue, 01 December 2015, 13:55:29
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 01 December 2015, 13:59:36
Please check your status here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eHTkuk4TNCe5ozR7Rt_awH0E57Wb8s3zvJ1oc2uC3Eg/)
Thanks.
Post by: braidn on Tue, 01 December 2015, 21:51:24
Post by: ideus on Tue, 01 December 2015, 22:12:07
Hey ! Updated the status form and sent all the invoices!
Please check your status here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eHTkuk4TNCe5ozR7Rt_awH0E57Wb8s3zvJ1oc2uC3Eg/)
Thanks.
is there any chance to still get in for a blue aluminum plate?
Post by: reddragon394 on Wed, 02 December 2015, 21:49:22
Post by: reddragon394 on Wed, 02 December 2015, 22:43:05
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 02 December 2015, 22:49:16
Oh well, apparently our whole last page and the IC thread is gone :(
Site was down earlier today, they probably had to restore the database from a backup or something.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 02 December 2015, 23:34:38
Still had both open on my phone, PDFs attached, hope it helps :)You're a life saver! Thanks :)
EDIT: can't seem to be able to open the PDF for this thread though, random unreadable characters.
Post by: rabs on Thu, 03 December 2015, 02:39:02
Thanks again LeandreN for the awesome group buy, made me pull the trigger on making my first custom! Sorry if my questions have already been answered, I can't seem to open the backup PDF of the thread.
I just wanted to check whether the PCB supports split backspace/split right shift/split left shift layouts - I know it does on the WKL store, but I'm not sure if the pre-soldering will preclude these layouts.
Cheers :)
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 03 December 2015, 02:44:42
Hey Guys,It will support all the layouts you mentioned. All the information is still in the OP on page 1.
Thanks again LeandreN for the awesome group buy, made me pull the trigger on making my first custom! Sorry if my questions have already been answered, I can't seem to open the backup PDF of the thread.
I just wanted to check whether the PCB supports split backspace/split right shift/split left shift layouts - I know it does on the WKL store, but I'm not sure if the pre-soldering will preclude these layouts.
Cheers :)
:)
Post by: rabs on Thu, 03 December 2015, 02:53:24
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 03 December 2015, 04:14:43
IC back up :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 03 December 2015, 05:33:52
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77564.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77564.0)
IC back up :thumb:
Fantastic!
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 03 December 2015, 06:15:21
(http://i.imgur.com/oNYmX17.jpg)
Interested in keycaps and random stuff.
Post by: reddragon394 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 06:39:28
Shoot me offers!
Sadly have almost nothing to trade, since I just started sourcing stuff in the keyboard realm :(
I got a a vpro v700 for crazily cheap, just to play around with and maybe harvest for parts if that's something for you :p
I'll attach the PDF once more, for good measure. This thread wasn't too interesting to have saved, I'm happy I got the ic though :D
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 03 December 2015, 07:27:06
Shoot me offers!
Sadly have almost nothing to trade, since I just started sourcing stuff in the keyboard realm :(
I got a a vpro v700 for crazily cheap, just to play around with and maybe harvest for parts if that's something for you :p
I'll attach the PDF once more, for good measure. This thread wasn't too interesting to have saved, I'm happy I got the ic though :D
Thanks, still can't open the PDF properly though. It is not that important now :) shoot me an offer in PM if you want the case
Post by: assumed_bivalve on Thu, 03 December 2015, 09:56:19
Does anybody have one of these? It looks like it would probably work without modification.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 03 December 2015, 10:38:40
Still had both open on my phone, PDFs attached, hope it helps :)
Oh yes, thank you for this by the way. I had most of the info backed up anyways, but I appreciate it!
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 03 December 2015, 10:55:08
I'm looking at this case (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesales-GH60-Anodizing-Aluminum-Case-for-60-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Compatible-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/32540926035.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.198.mdpyWi&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_6_79_78_77_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_2) as a potential alternative to the Tex aluminum case. It just has stand-offs and doesn't have the ridges that would be an issue with the RGB LEDs.
Does anybody have one of these? It looks like it would probably work without modification.
Looks like it should work.
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:07:42
Plates and PCBs ordered. gaterons will be ordered this week.
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 03 December 2015, 13:58:24
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 03 December 2015, 14:04:34
Is it the first of February already?
Soon™
Will maybe ship sooner, depending on a lot of stuff. I like to set the timeframe a little more than i expect :D
Post by: reddragon394 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:57:55
Oh, and since we get the 60%'s and their website says 810 Ohm resistors work for all colors at that size, does anyone know whats up with that? how can that work, just one value working for all colors, and why is this size sensitive? :D
Post by: rddm on Fri, 04 December 2015, 07:14:40
RGB leds on wkl have 4 pins, 1 for "color code" , 2 for power, and the last I don't know (didn't saw the datasheet), but maybe for on/off.
Post by: ekx on Fri, 04 December 2015, 08:04:29
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 04 December 2015, 08:10:49
Please check it :D
Post by: rddm on Fri, 04 December 2015, 08:16:01
The color a RGB led produces is always controlled through PWM afaik. You can think of them as 3 single leds (Red, Green and Blue) that are PWM regulated, grouped together in a very small space.
The wkl pcb uses a WS2812B as rgb led.
Specifications
Power Supply Voltage: +3.5V+5.3V
Input Voltage: -0.5VDD+0.5V
Red Vf: 1.8~2.2V
Green Vf: 3.0~3.2V
Blue Vf: 3.2~3.4V
Red Wavelength: 620~630 nm
Green Wavelength: 515~530 nm
Blue Wavelength: 465~475 nm
Red luminous intensity(20mA): 550~700 mcd
Green luminous intensity(20mA): 1100~1400mcd
Blue luminous intensity(20mA): 200~400 mcd
Product Description
WS2812 is an intelligent control LED light source that the control circuit and RGB chip are integrated in a package of 5050 components. It includes intelligent digital port data latch and signal reshaping amplification drive circuit. Also include a precision internal oscillator and a 12V voltage programmable constant current control part, effectively ensuring the pixel point light color height consistent.
LED with low driving voltage, environmental protection and energy saving, high brightness, scattering angle is large, good consistency, low power, long life and other advantages. The control chip integrated in LED above becoming more simple circuit, small volume, and convenient installation.
You are right, the pwm control the color
Post by: reddragon394 on Fri, 04 December 2015, 13:06:21
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 05 December 2015, 10:49:30
Look no further.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77618
Post by: donpark on Sun, 06 December 2015, 04:54:20
Ordered a tier 3 PCB.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 06 December 2015, 04:54:59
Since the PCB is from Wkl, I assume I can order a translucent housing/casing from Wkl right?
Ordered a tier 3 PCB.
yes you can.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 07 December 2015, 12:14:22
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 07 December 2015, 13:38:17
Missing sales on GH is the worst part about being so busy recently! xD
+1 for the next Round tho!
The PCB looks awesome LeandreN!! <3 :-*
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 08 December 2015, 06:14:38
Gateron's are shipped from gateron themselves to Corus KB. I will then proceed to pay them. PCB mounted gateron blues. Plates are in production and will ship to me before christmas, same with PCBs. (atleast the tier 3 ones.)
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 08 December 2015, 06:29:21
Plates are in production and will ship to me before christmas, same with PCBs.So, good chances to get plates and PCBs before the end of the year?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 08 December 2015, 07:25:47
There is a chance they are shipped before the end of the year at least.Plates are in production and will ship to me before christmas, same with PCBs.So, good chances to get plates and PCBs before the end of the year?
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 08 December 2015, 08:06:24
There is a chance they are shipped before the end of the year at least.Great. That's what you are.
Post by: axtran on Tue, 08 December 2015, 08:13:14
There is a chance they are shipped before the end of the year at least.Great. That's what you are.
LeandreN is the best! :)
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 08 December 2015, 08:29:40
Post by: dae1 on Tue, 08 December 2015, 08:51:02
Okay ladies and gentlemen.
Gateron's are shipped from gateron themselves to Corus KB. I will then proceed to pay them. PCB mounted gateron blues. Plates are in production and will ship to me before christmas, same with PCBs. (atleast the tier 3 ones.)
Seriously?! This is so much better than the KC60 (which I haven't received yet) that I ordered from MassCrap. You're the best!
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 08 December 2015, 09:06:58
~10kg of overpriced cardboard boxes. Should be enough!
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 14 December 2015, 05:16:07
100% of the money will go to:
Fund refunds for those who wanted a refund AFTER the deadline.
Fund refunds to those who bought the tier 3 PCB and wanted partial refund because all the tier 2s were upgraded to tier 3.
Order ID | Stabilisers | PCB| Plate | Price| Available|Other|
Order 2| 2 sets| 2x tier 1| 1x blue alu, 1x purple alu| 176$| Yes
Order 3| none| none| 1x carbon fiber| 75$| Yes
Order 4| 1 set| 2x Tier 3 | Steel| 216$| Yes| 90 gateron blues
PM me if you are interested.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 19 December 2015, 07:47:20
Dibs on Order 4! ;)
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 19 December 2015, 08:49:29
Still waiting on information from Corus regarding the Gaterons.
The plates have not shipped yet, but they are very close to shipment.
Hojin is working as hard as i can to get the PCBs finished. They will not ship until after Christmas.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 19 December 2015, 13:46:11
They will not ship before after Christmas.Come again?
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 19 December 2015, 13:48:39
They will not ship before after Christmas.Come again?
Fixed, thanks !
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 19 December 2015, 13:52:32
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 19 December 2015, 13:56:44
For a second I thought you were trolling.Ha! Could definitely have been the case ;)
Post by: chancellorr on Sat, 19 December 2015, 14:24:46
Welcome to the world of Group Buys.They will not ship before after Christmas.Come again?
Edit: I'm dumb. Carry on.
Post by: lashiel on Sat, 19 December 2015, 15:18:30
They will not ship before after Christmas.Come again?
Fixed, thanks !
Huh. It actually kinda makes sense though, if you think about it. Funny error.
Post by: toneman77 on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:11:42
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 22 December 2015, 12:39:34
I regret not being on this GB on so many levels....Read a few posts back, LeandreN has some unpaid orders he's willing to sell.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 22 December 2015, 12:43:06
I regret not being on this GB on so many levels....Read a few posts back, LeandreN has some unpaid orders he's willing to sell.
Not anymore right now. They sold pretty quickly. More later.
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 22 December 2015, 12:43:54
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:01:59
I'm glad.I regret not being on this GB on so many levels....Read a few posts back, LeandreN has some unpaid orders he's willing to sell.
Not anymore right now. They sold pretty quickly. More later.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:05:25
I ordered a silver plate but won't be needing it if anyone is interested same with stabs.
PMed you.
Post by: trees on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:06:43
I ordered a silver plate but won't be needing it if anyone is interested same with stabs.
I could do a local pick up from you after the holidays or whenever you have it in hand.
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:10:12
Sounds good. Won't have to deal with shipping. I can send you a PM when they arrive.I ordered a silver plate but won't be needing it if anyone is interested same with stabs.
I could do a local pick up from you after the holidays or whenever you have it in hand.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 15:30:30
Sounds good. Won't have to deal with shipping. I can send you a PM when they arrive.I ordered a silver plate but won't be needing it if anyone is interested same with stabs.
I could do a local pick up from you after the holidays or whenever you have it in hand.
Let out again for living overseas... >:D
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 22 December 2015, 15:31:22
Sorry my friend. Its just easier on me. :/Sounds good. Won't have to deal with shipping. I can send you a PM when they arrive.I ordered a silver plate but won't be needing it if anyone is interested same with stabs.
I could do a local pick up from you after the holidays or whenever you have it in hand.
Let out again for living overseas... >:D
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 24 December 2015, 04:14:16
The plates are all sent. Should arrive around 1th of January.
The PCBs will be sent next week.
From today, until the first of January, i will not work, however i will update you guys if i hear something new.
Post by: Numpy on Thu, 24 December 2015, 04:18:25
Nothing new from Gateron yet. They are preparing the switches.Thank you so much for your efficiency :-*
The plates are all sent. Should arrive around 1th of January.
The PCBs will be sent next week.
From today, until the first of January, i will not work, however i will update you guys if i hear something new.
Post by: Crossfire on Thu, 24 December 2015, 07:39:34
Happy Xmas to everyone btw!
Post by: Tachi on Thu, 24 December 2015, 13:59:23
Post by: xondat on Thu, 24 December 2015, 16:04:25
Nothing new from Gateron yet. They are preparing the switches.
The plates are all sent. Should arrive around 1th of January.
The PCBs will be sent next week.
From today, until the first of January, i will not work, however i will update you guys if i hear something new.
Already? Nice, thanks for the update.
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 24 December 2015, 16:45:21
Post by: faxe on Tue, 29 December 2015, 04:01:22
Post by: Butter on Tue, 29 December 2015, 08:57:10
Nothing new from Gateron yet. They are preparing the switches.
The plates are all sent. Should arrive around 1th of January.
The PCBs will be sent next week.
From today, until the first of January, i will not work, however i will update you guys if i hear something new.
If I order just the PCB will you ship it out when you got then?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 29 December 2015, 08:58:25
Yes I will ship out the orders I can first. Looks like plates will arrive first.Nothing new from Gateron yet. They are preparing the switches.
The plates are all sent. Should arrive around 1th of January.
The PCBs will be sent next week.
From today, until the first of January, i will not work, however i will update you guys if i hear something new.
If I order just the PCB will you ship it out when you got then?
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 29 December 2015, 08:59:57
Getting really excited! I cannot wait to build my board. The case is supposed to be here tomorrow and its going to be taunting me until the PCBs ship out.Yes I will ship out the orders I can first. Looks like plates will arrive first.Nothing new from Gateron yet. They are preparing the switches.
The plates are all sent. Should arrive around 1th of January.
The PCBs will be sent next week.
From today, until the first of January, i will not work, however i will update you guys if i hear something new.
If I order just the PCB will you ship it out when you got then?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 29 December 2015, 09:04:26
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 29 December 2015, 09:05:33
Actually, I'm confused now. Will we receive the different parts all at once or in multiple packages?Ohh sorry. You will receive all at once. I just meant that I will ship out someone's order of just plates if I get the plates first.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 29 December 2015, 09:07:52
Ah right, speedy reply. So a PCB + plate order ships next week?Actually, I'm confused now. Will we receive the different parts all at once or in multiple packages?Ohh sorry. You will receive all at once. I just meant that I will ship out someone's order of just plates if I get the plates first.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 29 December 2015, 09:08:54
That is a bit optimistic, but it could happen ;)Ah right, speedy reply. So a PCB + plate order ships next week?Actually, I'm confused now. Will we receive the different parts all at once or in multiple packages?Ohh sorry. You will receive all at once. I just meant that I will ship out someone's order of just plates if I get the plates first.
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 29 December 2015, 22:53:06
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 29 December 2015, 22:56:31
Does anyone know if PCB mounted stabs are compatible with plate mounted switches?
You should be fine as long as the plate supports it which it appears that the plate has cutouts for PCB mounted stabs. What makes switches PCB mounted is the two extra pegs that clip into the PCB for extra stability, they aren't necessary by any means.
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 29 December 2015, 23:04:58
So there will be no issues if I use these PCB mounted stabilisers with plate mounted switches? I understand that the plate is compatible but was just wondering about the switches.Does anyone know if PCB mounted stabs are compatible with plate mounted switches?
You should be fine as long as the plate supports it which it appears that the plate has cutouts for PCB mounted stabs. What makes switches PCB mounted is the two extra pegs that clip into the PCB for extra stability, they aren't necessary by any means.
Thanks :P
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 29 December 2015, 23:05:59
Yeah. You should be fine.So there will be no issues if I use these PCB mounted stabilisers with plate mounted switches? I understand that the plate is compatible but was just wondering about the switches.Does anyone know if PCB mounted stabs are compatible with plate mounted switches?
You should be fine as long as the plate supports it which it appears that the plate has cutouts for PCB mounted stabs. What makes switches PCB mounted is the two extra pegs that clip into the PCB for extra stability, they aren't necessary by any means.
Thanks
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 29 December 2015, 23:41:34
Ahh ok, awesome.Yeah. You should be fine.So there will be no issues if I use these PCB mounted stabilisers with plate mounted switches? I understand that the plate is compatible but was just wondering about the switches.Does anyone know if PCB mounted stabs are compatible with plate mounted switches?
You should be fine as long as the plate supports it which it appears that the plate has cutouts for PCB mounted stabs. What makes switches PCB mounted is the two extra pegs that clip into the PCB for extra stability, they aren't necessary by any means.
Thanks
Thanks chancellorr.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 30 December 2015, 02:52:55
Does anyone know if PCB mounted stabs are compatible with plate mounted switches?Yes they are. You have to use PCB mount actually
Post by: Numpy on Wed, 30 December 2015, 05:26:13
Oh right, I see.Does anyone know if PCB mounted stabs are compatible with plate mounted switches?Yes they are. You have to use PCB mount actually
The more you know…
The less likely you are to stuff up your keyboard
Post by: chancellorr on Wed, 30 December 2015, 08:25:05
That was a much better answer than mine. Lol.Oh right, I see.Does anyone know if PCB mounted stabs are compatible with plate mounted switches?Yes they are. You have to use PCB mount actually
The more you know…
The less likely you are to stuff up your keyboard
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 31 December 2015, 06:18:06
Post by: Tachi on Thu, 31 December 2015, 18:45:09
Gaterons sent to me.
Awesome news! Happy New Year everyone! (UK i know it isn't everywhere!)
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 31 December 2015, 18:48:23
Happy new year!Gaterons sent to me.
Awesome news! Happy New Year everyone! (UK i know it isn't everywhere!)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/31/5e66288d4ee1542a4b4544a4e064c0a0.jpg)
Post by: Numpy on Thu, 31 December 2015, 18:54:44
Happy new year LeandreN :DHappy new year!Gaterons sent to me.
Awesome news! Happy New Year everyone! (UK i know it isn't everywhere!)Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/31/5e66288d4ee1542a4b4544a4e064c0a0.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 January 2016, 14:07:45
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 01 January 2016, 14:24:12
Hot damn... Those cf plates... Should have bought one. Super excited for my black plate though :)Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/01/b28570773419b5c1f8ea76beab117efc.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:17:05
(http://i.imgur.com/gla5G0Y.jpg)
Blue
(http://i.imgur.com/J8nbCMh.jpg)
Black
(http://i.imgur.com/lXQqm1r.jpg)
Gunmetal Grey
(http://i.imgur.com/MFjCwfY.jpg)
Silver
(http://i.imgur.com/lg5EDYb.jpg)
Orange
(http://i.imgur.com/6JwqVmV.jpg)
Purple
(http://i.imgur.com/Nhv9EgP.jpg)
Steel
(http://i.imgur.com/ftMNG6I.jpg)
Green
(http://i.imgur.com/cGm3xIX.jpg)
Carbon Fiber
(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
Post by: Steezus on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:35:46
RedShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gla5G0Y.jpg)
BlueShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/J8nbCMh.jpg)
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lXQqm1r.jpg)
Gunmetal GreyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/MFjCwfY.jpg)
SilverShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lg5EDYb.jpg)
OrangeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/6JwqVmV.jpg)
PurpleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nhv9EgP.jpg)
SteelShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftMNG6I.jpg)
GreenShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cGm3xIX.jpg)
Carbon FiberShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
All those colors look so lovely. I think the blue one may be bent on one of the corners, I had that happen to me before when I dropped one of my plates.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:36:38
Carbon FiberShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
My new baby. I'm so excited!!! :-*
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:37:43
I think it is the picture. I looked at it and couldn't find anything. Aluminium bends easily though!RedShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gla5G0Y.jpg)
BlueShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/J8nbCMh.jpg)
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lXQqm1r.jpg)
Gunmetal GreyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/MFjCwfY.jpg)
SilverShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lg5EDYb.jpg)
OrangeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/6JwqVmV.jpg)
PurpleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nhv9EgP.jpg)
SteelShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftMNG6I.jpg)
GreenShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cGm3xIX.jpg)
Carbon FiberShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
All those colors look so lovely. I think the blue one may be bent on one of the corners, I had that happen to me before when I dropped one of my plates.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:39:06
I didn't order one for myself :( let's hope one of the remaining people doesn't pay their PayPal invoice :DCarbon FiberShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
My new baby. I'm so excited!!! :-*
Post by: chancellorr on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:49:59
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:55:07
It's getting so close! Any eta on the PCBs?Monday :)
Post by: Steezus on Fri, 01 January 2016, 15:59:47
I think it is the picture. I looked at it and couldn't find anything. Aluminium bends easily though!MoreRedShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gla5G0Y.jpg)
BlueShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/J8nbCMh.jpg)
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lXQqm1r.jpg)
Gunmetal GreyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/MFjCwfY.jpg)
SilverShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lg5EDYb.jpg)
OrangeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/6JwqVmV.jpg)
PurpleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nhv9EgP.jpg)
SteelShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftMNG6I.jpg)
GreenShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cGm3xIX.jpg)
Carbon FiberShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
All those colors look so lovely. I think the blue one may be bent on one of the corners, I had that happen to me before when I dropped one of my plates.
Ah ok good, just wanted to make sure. It's such an easy fix too if that ever happens to anybody, you can easily bend it back with your bare hands but make sure to be gentle.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 01 January 2016, 16:03:18
Again? I swear you didn't for the 1st run...I didn't order one for myself :( let's hope one of the remaining people doesn't pay their PayPal invoice :DCarbon FiberShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
My new baby. I'm so excited!!! :-*
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 January 2016, 16:11:07
Yeah again. Late orders taking the extras... :)Again? I swear you didn't for the 1st run...I didn't order one for myself :( let's hope one of the remaining people doesn't pay their PayPal invoice :DCarbon FiberShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gRQKDLI.jpg)
My new baby. I'm so excited!!! :-*
Post by: Crossfire on Sat, 02 January 2016, 03:29:59
Stabs are already in your hands?
Big thumbs up, LeandreN!
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 January 2016, 04:14:26
Wow, those plates are looking sexy! As they should, it's their job. :cool: heheThanks! Stabs will come next week :)
Stabs are already in your hands?
Big thumbs up, LeandreN!
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 02 January 2016, 04:28:58
Plates: They arrived at LeandreN's place.
Gateron Switches: At LeandreN's.
PCBs: Expected at LeandreN's on Monday.
Stabilizers: Expected next week.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 January 2016, 04:30:00
So, just to recap, correct me if I'm wrong:Correct but Gateron switches are not here yet. Expected next week.
Plates: They arrived at LeandreN's place.
Gateron Switches: At LeandreN's.
PCBs: Expected at LeandreN's on Monday.
Stabilizers: Expected next week.
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 07:11:57
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 January 2016, 07:24:09
When do you start shipping plate? Next week?(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/02/7a34f621bca5d5712ec94ca756926df6.jpg)
Next week for some orders. Including yours!
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/02/81fa1b1873324c14d05806e06d5f18c5.jpg)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 07:41:22
When do you start shipping plate? Next week?Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/02/7a34f621bca5d5712ec94ca756926df6.jpg)
Next week for some orders. Including yours!Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/02/81fa1b1873324c14d05806e06d5f18c5.jpg)
Very great! Thanks a lot, LeandreN :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 January 2016, 11:21:29
Two orders shipped today. I'll update when I'm back.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 January 2016, 11:27:19
Very great! Thanks a lot, LeandreN :thumb:
Yours actually shipped today.
Post by: Relaxbro on Sat, 02 January 2016, 11:55:08
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 January 2016, 18:13:14
Selling some plates!
Post by: xondat on Sat, 02 January 2016, 18:18:30
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/3z7ciq/eunoh_plates_gmk_grey_dolch_w_paypalsepa/
Selling some plates!
Hope you saved a CF plate for yourself. What's the story behind the 1 of a kind green plate?
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 January 2016, 18:19:41
I need the money more than the CF plate right now.https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/3z7ciq/eunoh_plates_gmk_grey_dolch_w_paypalsepa/
Selling some plates!
Hope you saved a CF plate for yourself. What's the story behind the 1 of a kind green plate?
The green plate was just 1 sample. I paid an anodising fee for it. Haha.
Post by: Numpy on Sat, 02 January 2016, 19:08:17
Post by: wodan on Sun, 03 January 2016, 05:04:24
Next round please :))
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 06:39:08
Very great! Thanks a lot, LeandreN :thumb:
Yours actually shipped today.
Thanks. Do you have tracking number?
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 03 January 2016, 06:40:03
All packages are shipping untracked. It will probably arrive within 2 weeks.
Very great! Thanks a lot, LeandreN :thumb:
Yours actually shipped today.
Thanks. Do you have tracking number?
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 06:44:57
All packages are shipping untracked. It will probably arrive within 2 weeks.
Very great! Thanks a lot, LeandreN :thumb:
Yours actually shipped today.
Thanks. Do you have tracking number?
Ok. Thanks.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 03 January 2016, 06:59:48
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
Post by: chancellorr on Sun, 03 January 2016, 07:13:47
UPDATETotally fine with me. As far as I see it, with all the work you have put in, you have no reason to be sorry.
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:39:59
UPDATE
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
Don't be sorry - thanks for the updates :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 07:08:52
Today:
Will start sorting stabilisers -_-
Take some pictures for you.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:06:41
Now to decide who get the tier 3s and who get the tier 2s.... And stabilisers must be hand sorted.
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:07:29
Ahhhh! This is the best sight I've seen all year.....Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/593bfd1457852ef77f05467e03e7210e.jpg)
Now to decide who get the tier 3s and who get the tier 2s.... And stabilisers must be hand sorted.
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:17:46
Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/593bfd1457852ef77f05467e03e7210e.jpg)
Now to decide who get the tier 3s and who get the tier 2s.... And stabilisers must be hand sorted.
Give me a Tier 2 please! Let someone else benefit from a Tier 3. I have zero intention of utilizing RGB underglow and it'd be hidden by an opaque case anyway.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:18:36
Yeah, the problem is that there are higher demand for tier 2 than tier 3 haha.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/593bfd1457852ef77f05467e03e7210e.jpg)
Now to decide who get the tier 3s and who get the tier 2s.... And stabilisers must be hand sorted.
Give me a Tier 2 please! Let someone else benefit from a Tier 3. I have zero intention of utilizing RGB underglow and it'd be hidden by an opaque case anyway.
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:24:19
Yeah, the problem is that there are higher demand for tier 2 than tier 3 haha.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/593bfd1457852ef77f05467e03e7210e.jpg)
Now to decide who get the tier 3s and who get the tier 2s.... And stabilisers must be hand sorted.
Give me a Tier 2 please! Let someone else benefit from a Tier 3. I have zero intention of utilizing RGB underglow and it'd be hidden by an opaque case anyway.
Oh wow haha. Then I suppose it doesn't matter. I won't have issues with a Tier 3 PCB not fitting in my case, but it just seems like a waste of RGB underglow parts.
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:25:40
Well, think of it this way, if you ever want to use them they will already be there.Yeah, the problem is that there are higher demand for tier 2 than tier 3 haha.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/593bfd1457852ef77f05467e03e7210e.jpg)
Now to decide who get the tier 3s and who get the tier 2s.... And stabilisers must be hand sorted.
Give me a Tier 2 please! Let someone else benefit from a Tier 3. I have zero intention of utilizing RGB underglow and it'd be hidden by an opaque case anyway.
Oh wow haha. Then I suppose it doesn't matter. I won't have issues with a Tier 3 PCB not fitting in my case, but it just seems like a waste of RGB underglow parts.
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:28:38
Oh wow haha. Then I suppose it doesn't matter. I won't have issues with a Tier 3 PCB not fitting in my case, but it just seems like a waste of RGB underglow parts.Well, think of it this way, if you ever want to use them they will already be there.
Thats what I did! (http://imgur.com/a/u4yF7). Some of the light still shines through! I bet if i lined the bottom of the case with something white and glossy it would be even brighter.
Post by: Butter on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:33:21
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:34:08
Will the T3 pcb fit Tex acrylic case?From what I've read, it will buy pull have to modify the case a bit.
You'll have to dremel out slots for the leds to sit.
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:37:05
Well, think of it this way, if you ever want to use them they will already be there.Yeah, the problem is that there are higher demand for tier 2 than tier 3 haha.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/593bfd1457852ef77f05467e03e7210e.jpg)
Now to decide who get the tier 3s and who get the tier 2s.... And stabilisers must be hand sorted.
Give me a Tier 2 please! Let someone else benefit from a Tier 3. I have zero intention of utilizing RGB underglow and it'd be hidden by an opaque case anyway.
Oh wow haha. Then I suppose it doesn't matter. I won't have issues with a Tier 3 PCB not fitting in my case, but it just seems like a waste of RGB underglow parts.
Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. If people absolutely need a Tier 2 for case compatibility or whatever reason, I have no misgivings about receiving a Tier 3.
Post by: cjhard on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:44:24
Will the T3 pcb fit Tex acrylic case?From what I've read, it will buy pull have to modify the case a bit.
You'll have to dremel out slots for the leds to sit.
There's a small possibility newer runs of the Tex Acrylic case have breaks in the PCB resting bar thingoes. Check out the Massdrop pictures. No promises that these are the same positions the WKL SMD RGB LED's are though.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:52:43
Numpy
Zealousy
assumed_bivalve
robertcalvert
Cwoetting
Alek_12
wockytocky
kevral
xfire
DavinDidIt
I had exactly enough PCBs for those who filled the form and really needed the tier 2 PCB, which is good. If one of you have ordered more than 1 PCB, the other PCBs you ordered will be Tier 3/1.
Please let me know if you have any questions !
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:03:45
And about no refunds for Tier 3, I couldn't care less at the moment, I'm so hyped and glad over how fast and smooth this GB is/has been.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:07:00
First order packaged!
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:11:16
I feel so spoiled with this GB, the usual warning of taking time and communication will perhaps not be too good does clearly not apply to LeandreN's group buys =)
And about no refunds for Tier 3, I couldn't care less at the moment, I'm so hyped and glad over how fast and smooth this GB is/has been.
Thanks a lot!
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:12:15
(http://anthonycoppedge.com/problog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/MineMineMine.jpeg)Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/b66dc7d67dd1c2f516581941daef12c6.jpg)
First order packaged!
Mine?
(Probably not, hyped anyway).
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:37:56
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/594610f6d74b11878ae7a1e1e9dd213d.jpg)Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/b66dc7d67dd1c2f516581941daef12c6.jpg)
First order packaged!Show Image(http://anthonycoppedge.com/problog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/MineMineMine.jpeg)
Mine?
(Probably not, hyped anyway).
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:46:32
That looks exactly like mine too.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/b66dc7d67dd1c2f516581941daef12c6.jpg)
First order packaged!Show Image(http://anthonycoppedge.com/problog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/MineMineMine.jpeg)
Mine?
(Probably not, hyped anyway).Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/594610f6d74b11878ae7a1e1e9dd213d.jpg)
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:51:57
MINE! ;)That looks exactly like mine too.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/b66dc7d67dd1c2f516581941daef12c6.jpg)
First order packaged!Show Image(http://anthonycoppedge.com/problog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/MineMineMine.jpeg)
Mine?
(Probably not, hyped anyway).Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/594610f6d74b11878ae7a1e1e9dd213d.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:53:08
Yeah! Going out tomorrow along with two other orders.MINE! ;)That looks exactly like mine too.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/b66dc7d67dd1c2f516581941daef12c6.jpg)
First order packaged!Show Image(http://anthonycoppedge.com/problog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/MineMineMine.jpeg)
Mine?
(Probably not, hyped anyway).Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/594610f6d74b11878ae7a1e1e9dd213d.jpg)
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:57:27
What sizes of space key stabilizers will you add? 6u, 6.25u and 7u? Just checkin' :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:58:00
Amazing work, LeandreN!
What sizes of space key stabilizers will you add? 6u, 6.25u and 7u? Just checkin' :thumb:
6.25 all the way!
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:01:11
Looks like there has been something wrong with the order from Winkeyless. The 6 Tier 1 PCBs has suddenly become Tier 2 PCBs! I would call that happy news since resistors will not affect any case.
Thanks to Hojin for this, amazing guy!
I have shipped 2 plate only orders and will ship 3 more plate + PCB orders tomorrow.
Still not got the Gateron's, aiming for this week.
I also have some keyboards to build, and a lot of stabilisers to sort, so this will take a while :)
Post by: faxe on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:06:52
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:07:58
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:09:09
I dont need the stabs I ordered anymore. Could I sell them to someone else to get my order to ship faster? :)Damn you guys want your orders fast. Haha. I can refund you 9$ and take them, but I doubt it will ship faster.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:09:38
Oh boy, oh boy! Any PCB only orders on the horizon ;DPCB orders have the same estimates as PCB+ plate orders :D
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:10:58
Hahaha. It's okay then. No rush. I'm just really excited.I dont need the stabs I ordered anymore. Could I sell them to someone else to get my order to ship faster? :)Damn you guys want your orders fast. Haha. I can refund you 9$ and take them, but I doubt it will ship faster.
Post by: faxe on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:13:58
No worries. Any spare plates, especially orange?Oh boy, oh boy! Any PCB only orders on the horizon ;DPCB orders have the same estimates as PCB+ plate orders :D
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:14:47
Yeah, orange :)No worries. Any spare plates, especially orange?Oh boy, oh boy! Any PCB only orders on the horizon ;DPCB orders have the same estimates as PCB+ plate orders :D
Post by: faxe on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:18:04
Yeah, orange :)No worries. Any spare plates, especially orange?Oh boy, oh boy! Any PCB only orders on the horizon ;DPCB orders have the same estimates as PCB+ plate orders :D
Really? I take it!!
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:19:25
That will be 33$, paypal@leandrekeyboards.comYeah, orange :)No worries. Any spare plates, especially orange?Oh boy, oh boy! Any PCB only orders on the horizon ;DPCB orders have the same estimates as PCB+ plate orders :D
Really? I take it!!
Post by: faxe on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:47:19
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:49:11
Paid.(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/1424be65060bd8f148f5f0a4a28a0506.jpg)
Post by: faxe on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:56:46
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:38:49
UPDATE
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
If anyone who wanted a refund for their Tier 3 costs happens to also be a Vim fan, I can send you a free HJKL and Caps Lock replacement kit (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-caps-lock-replacement-package-sa-profile) (normally $15). I might not be able to do this for everyone (I have no idea how many are affected), but I'd like to support LeandreN's hard work if I can.
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:42:00
That's awesome. I'd love one!UPDATE
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
If anyone who wanted a refund for their Tier 3 costs happens to also be a Vim fan, I can send you a free HJKL and Caps Lock replacement kit (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-caps-lock-replacement-package-sa-profile) (normally $15). I might not be able to do this for everyone (I have no idea how many are affected), but I'd like to support LeandreN's hard work if I can.
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:46:21
That's awesome. I'd love one!UPDATE
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
If anyone who wanted a refund for their Tier 3 costs happens to also be a Vim fan, I can send you a free HJKL and Caps Lock replacement kit (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-caps-lock-replacement-package-sa-profile) (normally $15). I might not be able to do this for everyone (I have no idea how many are affected), but I'd like to support LeandreN's hard work if I can.
Done!
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:50:26
UPDATE
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
If anyone who wanted a refund for their Tier 3 costs happens to also be a Vim fan, I can send you a free HJKL and Caps Lock replacement kit (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-caps-lock-replacement-package-sa-profile) (normally $15). I might not be able to do this for everyone (I have no idea how many are affected), but I'd like to support LeandreN's hard work if I can.
I've actually looked at your vim caps to buy as a present for a colleague who is a vim user (to push him to buy a mech ;) ) but the full price with international shipping was a little too steep (for a gift). If you could give me a discount on a set (would prefer DSA), both me and my colleague would appreciate it ;)
EDIT: And as seen earlier, I payed for Tier3, so hopefully I'm eligible.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:51:06
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:06:32
UPDATE
Postage prices along with some other price changes makes it impossible for me to give people who bought a Tier 3 PCB a refund. Sorry.
All the money now has to be used on shipping and packaging materials.
Sorry.
If anyone who wanted a refund for their Tier 3 costs happens to also be a Vim fan, I can send you a free HJKL and Caps Lock replacement kit (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-caps-lock-replacement-package-sa-profile) (normally $15). I might not be able to do this for everyone (I have no idea how many are affected), but I'd like to support LeandreN's hard work if I can.
I've actually looked at your vim caps to buy as a present for a colleague who is a vim user (to push him to buy a mech ;) ) but the full price with international shipping was a little too steep (for a gift). If you could give me a discount on a set (would prefer DSA), both me and my colleague would appreciate it ;)
EDIT: And as seen earlier, I payed for Tier3, so hopefully I'm eligible.
I'll ship them for free, just PM me your order number when you're done and I'll refund you the shipping. Alternatively, PM me your email address and I'll send an invoice.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:08:55
If anyone who wanted a refund for their Tier 3 costs happens to also be a Vim fan, I can send you a free HJKL and Caps Lock replacement kit (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-caps-lock-replacement-package-sa-profile) (normally $15). I might not be able to do this for everyone (I have no idea how many are affected), but I'd like to support LeandreN's hard work if I can.Any chance they will be ever made in Cherry/DCS profile?
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:09:55
Dude! This is so awesome! I can't give refund the difference between the tier 2 & 3, but here you come with these awesome keys. Even if you can't help everybody, this is just awesome. Thanks a lot.
You're very welcome, and thank you for running such a standout GB!
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:13:02
If anyone who wanted a refund for their Tier 3 costs happens to also be a Vim fan, I can send you a free HJKL and Caps Lock replacement kit (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-caps-lock-replacement-package-sa-profile) (normally $15). I might not be able to do this for everyone (I have no idea how many are affected), but I'd like to support LeandreN's hard work if I can.Any chance they will be ever made in Cherry/DCS profile?
I've looked into it, but I need to see if I can break-even first. I love Vim and mechs, so I will keep this going as long as I can...
Edit: I don't want to hijack LeandreN's thread anymore than I already have, but I have an "Artisan" thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77048.0), if anyone has more questions...
Post by: rotciveel on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:15:31
Post by: flob_ert on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:26:19
Im so hyped for my first GB... I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;D
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:29:25
My first post... and its a BIG thank you to LeandreN for letting me get in on this GB when I wasn't a member of GH or Reddit (That shouldn't be an issue anymore). I also wanted to say thank you for getting me a Tire 2 PCB (robertcalvert).
Im so hyped for my first GB... I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;D
Everybody can join my GBs, whether they are not registered anywhere, coming from Deskthority, Reddit, Geekhack, or an Asian keyboard forum :)
Congrats with your first post, and yes, please post your builds here so I can see what you have done!
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:32:11
I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;DWelcome to the club.
My build from GB #1 (ISO plate)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/cnnDf96.jpg)
GB #2 (plate + PCB)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Forgive the poor quality of the images but at least you can get the idea.
Post by: flob_ert on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:39:04
I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;DWelcome to the club.
My build from GB #1 (ISO plate)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cnnDf96.jpg)
GB #2 (plate + PCB)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Forgive the poor quality of the images but at least you can get the idea.
Thank you :)
Did the GB #1 plate have plate mounted stabilizers? I really want to do a hand wired 60% in ISO but cant find a plate in ISO that has plate mounted stabilizers.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:40:52
I actually have a R1 plate in ISO laying around...I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;DWelcome to the club.
My build from GB #1 (ISO plate)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cnnDf96.jpg)
GB #2 (plate + PCB)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Forgive the poor quality of the images but at least you can get the idea.
Thank you :)
Did the GB #1 plate have plate mounted stabilizers? I really want to do a hand wired 60% in ISO but cant find a plate in ISO that has plate mounted stabilizers.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:42:59
Did the GB #1 plate have plate mounted stabilizers? I really want to do a hand wired 60% in ISO but cant find a plate in ISO that has plate mounted stabilizers.IIRC, yes, stabilizers cutouts should be cross compatible with either Costar, Cherry plate mounted and Cherry PCB mounted. But let's have LeandreN confirm this, I might be wrong.
Post by: flob_ert on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:46:18
I actually have a R1 plate in ISO laying around...I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;DWelcome to the club.
My build from GB #1 (ISO plate)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cnnDf96.jpg)
GB #2 (plate + PCB)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Forgive the poor quality of the images but at least you can get the idea.
Thank you :)
Did the GB #1 plate have plate mounted stabilizers? I really want to do a hand wired 60% in ISO but cant find a plate in ISO that has plate mounted stabilizers.
Amazing, im so glad I joined now (I was a long time lurker). If you have one I would happily buy it off of you... I could do with some more stabilizers as well :-[
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 04 January 2016, 17:04:24
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/ebe01803d853dd21565524e51062b64b.jpg)I actually have a R1 plate in ISO laying around...I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;DWelcome to the club.
My build from GB #1 (ISO plate)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cnnDf96.jpg)
GB #2 (plate + PCB)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Forgive the poor quality of the images but at least you can get the idea.
Thank you :)
Did the GB #1 plate have plate mounted stabilizers? I really want to do a hand wired 60% in ISO but cant find a plate in ISO that has plate mounted stabilizers.
Amazing, im so glad I joined now (I was a long time lurker). If you have one I would happily buy it off of you... I could do with some more stabilizers as well :-[
We can figure out stuff tomorrow :)
Post by: flob_ert on Mon, 04 January 2016, 17:13:09
I actually have a R1 plate in ISO laying around...I cant wait to see everyone's builds ;DWelcome to the club.
My build from GB #1 (ISO plate)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cnnDf96.jpg)
GB #2 (plate + PCB)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KQLzwTI.jpg)
Forgive the poor quality of the images but at least you can get the idea.
Thank you :)
Did the GB #1 plate have plate mounted stabilizers? I really want to do a hand wired 60% in ISO but cant find a plate in ISO that has plate mounted stabilizers.
Amazing, im so glad I joined now (I was a long time lurker). If you have one I would happily buy it off of you... I could do with some more stabilizers as well :-[Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/ebe01803d853dd21565524e51062b64b.jpg)
We can figure out stuff tomorrow :)
You are truly amazing! You have my email address from the GB (robertcalvert), let me know the extra cost + any extra postage due to size/weight etc and I can pay via paypal if you send me an invoice :)
Post by: Numpy on Mon, 04 January 2016, 17:29:32
You've proved me wrong with all of those statements LeandreN.
You have been more responsive and efficient than I could dream of a normal retailer being.
Thank you so much, I will be much more inclined to join group buys from now on and thank you so much for a Tier 2 PCB.
P.S. This community in general is awesome.
Post by: rabs on Mon, 04 January 2016, 21:38:46
Post by: supermoot on Tue, 05 January 2016, 07:23:54
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:07:30
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:26:37
Did 4 orders today. Total shipped is ~11 people, which again is about 10% of the participants.Are you still waiting for Gateron switches?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:27:40
NopeDid 4 orders today. Total shipped is ~11 people, which again is about 10% of the participants.Are you still waiting for Gateron switches?
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:31:36
Uhm, so my order shipped as well?NopeDid 4 orders today. Total shipped is ~11 people, which again is about 10% of the participants.Are you still waiting for Gateron switches?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:37:16
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:41:39
Sorry i though your question were "anything new from gateron". No news, aiming for this week still.Alright. Thanks for the news.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:13:35
Shipped a couple of orders today, including those from yesterday. I think i have shipped about 13 orders total, i will count later. Contacted Corus and will apparentyl get a tracking number tomorrow for the Gaterons.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:46:03
Post by: f1xedgear on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:47:59
I may of missed it but is there a list of people that have had their orders shipped and not?
The order status spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/1eHTkuk4TNCe5ozR7Rt_awH0E57Wb8s3zvJ1oc2uC3Eg/edit) sent out with one of the initial emails is being updated on a fairly regular basis.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:12:00
Post by: Relaxbro on Tue, 05 January 2016, 16:03:11
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 05 January 2016, 16:04:13
Are you proxying cases from Ziptyze's group buy? If yes, you can wait until they arrive before you ship my order. That way you can save a bit on shipping.Yes I do. I will ship your order when I have the Zip cases then. :)
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 02:33:45
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 06 January 2016, 03:01:44
Looks like Gaterons will arrive today ;)Gateron is mocking me. I guess you can ignore my last PM.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 05:52:29
Looks like Gaterons will arrive today ;)Gateron is mocking me. I guess you can ignore my last PM.
Sure, 20 Gaterons will be shipped with your order.
I think i even managed to get PCB mounted Gateron blues special orders, but you never know with orders from China.
Post by: reddragon394 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 07:38:56
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 07:40:16
There are special blues? What did I miss?! :D
Corus, who i ordered through just carries plate mounted Gateron Blues. I got them to order PCB mount :)
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 07:53:09
LeandreN is magic! Probably helps that we ordered a few thousand of them though.There are special blues? What did I miss?! :D
Corus, who i ordered through just carries plate mounted Gateron Blues. I got them to order PCB mount :)
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:09:38
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:14:43
I recorded a typing test (https://soundcloud.com/badsectors/noplate-wav) this morning so i can compare the sound with and without the plate installed in my B.face.
Nice! Plates mostly improve the feels, but will probably augment the sound, especially steel. :D
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:20:36
Oh, well I got a black alu plate to hide the white pcb in my otherwise mostly all black build.I recorded a typing test (https://soundcloud.com/badsectors/noplate-wav) this morning so i can compare the sound with and without the plate installed in my B.face.
Nice! Plates mostly improve the feels, but will probably augment the sound, especially steel. :D
At any rate, this is a fantastic keyboard so far (had mine assembled for about a week). Havent figured out next/prev track media keys on a mac yet though :(
Post by: cjhard on Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:01:14
It does list next/prev track as supported though, try some event capture utility on whatever the keyboard device enumerates to under whatever OS X's equivilent to /dev/input? Even though the Keyboard emits the event, the OS has to listen and handle it some way.
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:15:08
Some media keycodes aren't supported on Mac. Check out this sheet for supported keycodes (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/197Vzf_fOJOdlxVBjT9aHL0n53nYrtGyrkxbDgx1IvT8/edit)
It does list next/prev track as supported though, try some event capture utility on whatever the keyboard device enumerates to under whatever OS X's equivilent to /dev/input? Even though the Keyboard emits the event, the OS has to listen and handle it some way.
Thanks for that list!
I think i have 2 options:
* Make a crazy mapping for next/prev (e.g. ctrl+opt+cmd+n for next) and have a custom macro send that sequence
* Hack the firmware to send the correct code.
I'd like to go the firmware route since that would be more compatible and others would find it useful. If I ever figure it out, I'll post it somewhere.
Post by: chancellorr on Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:21:29
Couldn't you use something like Keyboard Maestro or Karabiner? Or even an Alfred workflow?Some media keycodes aren't supported on Mac. Check out this sheet for supported keycodes (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/197Vzf_fOJOdlxVBjT9aHL0n53nYrtGyrkxbDgx1IvT8/edit)
It does list next/prev track as supported though, try some event capture utility on whatever the keyboard device enumerates to under whatever OS X's equivilent to /dev/input? Even though the Keyboard emits the event, the OS has to listen and handle it some way.
Thanks for that list!
I think i have 2 options:
* Make a crazy mapping for next/prev (e.g. ctrl+opt+cmd+n for next) and have a custom macro send that sequence
* Hack the firmware to send the correct code.
I'd like to go the firmware route since that would be more compatible and others would find it useful. If I ever figure it out, I'll post it somewhere.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:02:09
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:35:00
How many switches were collectively bought?
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:11:30
Couldn't you use something like Keyboard Maestro or Karabiner? Or even an Alfred workflow?
Yes, but i figure that modifying the firmware will be more compatible with all mac apps and will be more useful for other people in the future.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:44:30
Sticky LeandreNs all over.
How many switches were collectively bought?
2800 switches.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:10:31
nmur
TalkingTree
donpark
theginginator
frebib
cjhard
Joferk
sithlord0121
tern21
bbmathlvr
xondat
braidn
manofinterests
techmattr
soilheart
xfire
Shipped earlier:
Hitcha
quochung1989
Status here!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eHTkuk4TNCe5ozR7Rt_awH0E57Wb8s3zvJ1oc2uC3Eg/edit#gid=0
Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:23:44
Shipped (today/yesterday):
nmur
TalkingTree
donpark
theginginator
frebib
cjhard
Joferk
sithlord0121
tern21
bbmathlvr
xondat
braidn
manofinterests
techmattr
soilheart
xfire
Shipped earlier:
Hitcha
quochung1989
Status here!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eHTkuk4TNCe5ozR7Rt_awH0E57Wb8s3zvJ1oc2uC3Eg/edit#gid=0
Holy **** I'm so ****ing pumped!!!!
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:40:56
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:42:56
So seems like I can get a top of 8-10 orders a day depending on complexity. Takes about 20 minutes for each order. Sorting stabilisers and gaterons is what's takes time.
That seems like a pretty good pace! I feel like this GB is well ahead of schedule.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:47:39
So seems like I can get a top of 8-10 orders a day depending on complexity. Takes about 20 minutes for each order. Sorting stabilisers and gaterons is what's takes time.
That seems like a pretty good pace! I feel like this GB is well ahead of schedule.
I feel that way too, so im pretty happy. The Zcases from Ziptyze is coming tomorrow :)
Post by: chancellorr on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:49:32
Dang. This is seriously flying. Good job to everyone involved.So seems like I can get a top of 8-10 orders a day depending on complexity. Takes about 20 minutes for each order. Sorting stabilisers and gaterons is what's takes time.
That seems like a pretty good pace! I feel like this GB is well ahead of schedule.
I feel that way too, so im pretty happy. The Zcases from Ziptyze is coming tomorrow :)
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:51:28
Dang. This is seriously flying. Good job to everyone involved.So seems like I can get a top of 8-10 orders a day depending on complexity. Takes about 20 minutes for each order. Sorting stabilisers and gaterons is what's takes time.
That seems like a pretty good pace! I feel like this GB is well ahead of schedule.
Yes!
I feel that way too, so im pretty happy. The Zcases from Ziptyze is coming tomorrow :)
A special thanks to Hojin for answering my questions within 2 minutes, any time of the day & Gateron for finishing my small order in record time.
Post by: chancellorr on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:52:46
Hojin is a very nice and helpful guy. I really appriciate his work.Dang. This is seriously flying. Good job to everyone involved.So seems like I can get a top of 8-10 orders a day depending on complexity. Takes about 20 minutes for each order. Sorting stabilisers and gaterons is what's takes time.
That seems like a pretty good pace! I feel like this GB is well ahead of schedule.
Yes!
I feel that way too, so im pretty happy. The Zcases from Ziptyze is coming tomorrow :)
A special thanks to Hojin for answering my questions within 2 minutes, any time of the day & Gateron for finishing my small order in record time.
Post by: Crossfire on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:54:21
PS. Speed of this GB is absolutely astonishing...to be so responsive between all of this hard work is pretty much what everyone is secretly wishing during the GB's :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:55:24
Are all of the Zcases sold in advance? Or is there a batch for later too? ;)
This is all the EU orders for the Ziptyze GB :)
Post by: sairex on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:56:53
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:16:48
Can't wait! LeandreN, are you going to start your hhkb plate buy right after? I *really* want one.
I hope to do that, yes :)
Post by: wodan on Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:19:24
I have the feeling you will make me buy alot of things LeandreN...
Post by: flob_ert on Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:27:13
Can't wait! LeandreN, are you going to start your hhkb plate buy right after? I *really* want one.
I hope to do that, yes :)
I didn't know about the planned hhkb layout plate. I just searched and found the original post. Count me in :)
Post by: reddragon394 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 18:11:43
So seems like I can get a top of 8-10 orders a day depending on complexity. Takes about 20 minutes for each order. Sorting stabilisers and gaterons is what's takes time.
i'm curious, how do you count the gaterons? with that many i would think doing it by weight is faster, eh? :D hope you dont have to count everything by hand ^^;
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 18:25:30
So seems like I can get a top of 8-10 orders a day depending on complexity. Takes about 20 minutes for each order. Sorting stabilisers and gaterons is what's takes time.
i'm curious, how do you count the gaterons? with that many i would think doing it by weight is faster, eh? :D hope you dont have to count everything by hand ^^;
I wonder if you could weigh them...
Post by: reddragon394 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 20:11:06
I wonder if you could weigh them...
if one is not enough, just weigh 10 and you can take it from there :D
Post by: faxe on Thu, 07 January 2016, 02:03:31
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 07 January 2016, 06:14:46
Post by: nmur on Thu, 07 January 2016, 06:36:43
Yeah a scale would work. I should look for one for the next GB.
hwood used a scale for his gateron switch GB early last year. he had like 110k switches to sort though :D
seemed to be accurate give or take 1-2 switches
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 07 January 2016, 06:41:39
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 07 January 2016, 09:12:17
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 07 January 2016, 11:22:11
themadnun
Zealousy
sairex
Atredl
SoreFeet
lazaruspit
bloodl1n3
kuromimi
evera
robertcalvert
tdr1v3r
Post by: flob_ert on Thu, 07 January 2016, 13:31:45
Shipped today:
themadnun
Zealousy
sairex
Atredl
SoreFeet
lazaruspit
bloodl1n3
kuromimi
evera
robertcalvert
tdr1v3r
I'm so hyped its coming! Let me know about the R1 ISO plate and stabilizers and I will chuck some more money at you ;D
I know you must be supper busy so I hope you have a great weekend.
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 07 January 2016, 13:40:28
Shipped today:
themadnun
Zealousy
sairex
Atredl
SoreFeet
lazaruspit
bloodl1n3
kuromimi
evera
robertcalvert
tdr1v3r
I'm so hyped its coming! Let me know about the R1 ISO plate and stabilizers and I will chuck some more money at you ;D
I know you must be supper busy so I hope you have a great weekend.
I don't want to sell them to you, take it as a gift for participating in my GB. I put them in your package. Enjoy!
Post by: flob_ert on Thu, 07 January 2016, 13:48:35
Shipped today:
themadnun
Zealousy
sairex
Atredl
SoreFeet
lazaruspit
bloodl1n3
kuromimi
evera
robertcalvert
tdr1v3r
I'm so hyped its coming! Let me know about the R1 ISO plate and stabilizers and I will chuck some more money at you ;D
I know you must be supper busy so I hope you have a great weekend.
I don't want to sell them to you, take it as a gift for participating in my GB. I put them in your package. Enjoy!
I'm speechless, thank you so much! I will definitely be joining the hhkb layout GB, when I do I will remind you to stick an extra $10 on so you can have a drink on me
Post by: dae1 on Thu, 07 January 2016, 17:34:13
Shipped today:
themadnun
Zealousy
sairex
Atredl
SoreFeet
lazaruspit
bloodl1n3
kuromimi
evera
robertcalvert
tdr1v3r
Woohoo! lazaruspit is me. Very exciting!
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 09 January 2016, 07:01:44
(http://i.imgur.com/w1lSErj.jpg)
Just making sure the RGB LEDs are working (the bottom right 4 didn't light up at first, but then I realized you need to set 16 LEDs in the settings, and now everything works just fine).
(http://i.imgur.com/OswEjqo.jpg)
The pcb and the case (acrylic clear from Dulphin) doesn't seem to play nice thoug =/ Hopefully the z-case on the way will work better.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 09 January 2016, 07:24:51
Got the package yesterday(!), so now I'm ready to start building! (When I get the time and decide what layout to go with).Fantastic! The Z-case will work :) (i just tested it in the video i did yesterday) And you can probably mod the Dulphin case to fit also.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/w1lSErj.jpg)
Just making sure the RGB LEDs are working (the bottom right 4 didn't light up at first, but then I realized you need to set 16 LEDs in the settings, and now everything works just fine).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/OswEjqo.jpg)
The pcb and the case (acrylic clear from Dulphin) doesn't seem to play nice thoug =/ Hopefully the z-case on the way will work better.
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 09 January 2016, 10:50:07
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 09 January 2016, 10:56:37
Hi LeandreN, is the stabilizer support for 7x spacebar?Spacebar wire is 6.25u, although you can easily bend a wire on your own.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 09 January 2016, 10:58:35
Hi LeandreN, is the stabilizer support for 7x spacebar?You'd need a 7u wire.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:39:51
Post by: axtran on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:29:32
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:32:41
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:33:23
Still on the search for my switches... Damn it.Y u no Gateron blues?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:34:28
Too light and they sound like they're broken :-XStill on the search for my switches... Damn it.Y u no Gateron blues?
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:37:09
Hmm... Seems like you are not very impressed with the clicky godness...Too light and they sound like they're broken :-XStill on the search for my switches... Damn it.Y u no Gateron blues?
Post by: axtran on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:37:25
Too light and they sound like they're broken :-XStill on the search for my switches... Damn it.Y u no Gateron blues?
Mod them up. With 78g springs in those badboys, they're quite nice. I don't care for the stock variant.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:44:23
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:47:33
Still on the search for my switches... Damn it.What switches are you after?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:56:41
Forgot to mention Zealio fit my color scheme too so it's a win winMoreToo light and they sound like they're broken :-XStill on the search for my switches... Damn it.Y u no Gateron blues?
Hmm... Seems like you are not very impressed with the clicky godness...
67g Zealio ^-^Still on the search for my switches... Damn it.What switches are you after?
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 10 January 2016, 13:28:50
I can't help you with Zealios, though Gaterons are pretty cheap nowadays.67g Zealio ^-^Still on the search for my switches... Damn it.What switches are you after?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 11 January 2016, 03:57:49
Kevral
Alek_12
Axtran
Flabbergast
Post by: wodan on Mon, 11 January 2016, 06:24:04
Makes it much easier for me (and others ?) to see your progress :)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 11 January 2016, 06:26:27
It'd be super cool if you updated the excel file whenever you send out some order.
Makes it much easier for me (and others ?) to see your progress :)
I do! Updated it now ;)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 11 January 2016, 06:28:03
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:24:30
crashkaboom
vkeomala
skarhead
mksids
strangemoleman
Post by: xondat on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:33:19
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:41:02
Mine came today; pictures later!Wo! Looking forward to some pictures.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:45:59
LeandreN I pmed you asking that do you have some plate left in stock bro? thank you!Mine came today; pictures later!Wo! Looking forward to some pictures.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:47:56
LeandreN I pmed you asking that do you have some plate left in stock bro? thank you!Mine came today; pictures later!Wo! Looking forward to some pictures.
Replied!
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:02:28
(edit: typo)
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:06:51
LeandreN, PMed you too about a different matter, a few ago.
Replied!
Post by: xondat on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:19:09
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:08:50
How do I remove the edges of the PCB? I'm a noob to this :confused:You break of one and one of them until the whole thing breaks off. Use force.
Post by: f1xedgear on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:18:13
How do I remove the edges of the PCB? I'm a noob to this :confused:You break of one and one of them until the whole thing breaks off. Use force.
The points that the edges attach to are perforated so they should break pretty easily. I'd recommend using pliers (ONLY on the tabs you are breaking off, hold the PCB in your hand or something) to bend and break them off.
Post by: cjhard on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:27:46
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:37:07
Do you have tracking numbers? Did I even bother to pay for tracking? I don't remember, but sometimes my goods get left at my apartments front office and nobody leaves a note, but sometimes they get left at the UPS or USPS location and I don't get a note, or my roommate takes the note and never mentions it.No tracking unfortunately. Only a few orders has tracking.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 11:01:58
pseudonymjames
nathanrosspowell
beltet
ekx
These shipped today! I have been busy with the Z cases i had to ship out.
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 12 January 2016, 11:04:37
Rarabka233
pseudonymjames
nathanrosspowell
beltet
ekx
These shipped today! I have been busy with the Z cases i had to ship out.
That's what I like to see! Thanks a bunch for the hard work L :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 11:05:32
Post by: f1xedgear on Tue, 12 January 2016, 11:10:55
Big mechmarket sale tonight!
Post a link here when it starts? Tapatalk will send push notifications :D
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 11:11:26
Okey dokeyBig mechmarket sale tonight!
Post a link here when it starts? Tapatalk will send push notifications :D
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 11:57:09
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:00:43
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/40nj2c/eunoh60_kits_parts_dolch_dsa_iso_pbt_blanks_w/
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/40nj2c/eunoh60_kits_parts_dolch_dsa_iso_pbt_blanks_w/
Post by: xondat on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:05:58
How do I remove the edges of the PCB? I'm a noob to this :confused:You break of one and one of them until the whole thing breaks off. Use force.
The points that the edges attach to are perforated so they should break pretty easily. I'd recommend using pliers (ONLY on the tabs you are breaking off, hold the PCB in your hand or something) to bend and break them off.
These are insanely hard to break off. Feels wrong putting so much force on a PCB.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:06:28
Post by: flob_ert on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:13:05
Everything arrived perfectly, thank you again for the R1 plate and stabilizers... I cant wait to get building.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:17:46
Today was a good mail day :)
Everything arrived perfectly, thank you again for the R1 plate and stabilizers... I cant wait to get building.
Awesome, where is the pictures ? :D
Post by: flob_ert on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:29:16
Today was a good mail day :)
Everything arrived perfectly, thank you again for the R1 plate and stabilizers... I cant wait to get building.
Awesome, where is the pictures ? :D
I'm no photographer (Phone camera)
[attach=1]
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:32:45
Today was a good mail day :)
Everything arrived perfectly, thank you again for the R1 plate and stabilizers... I cant wait to get building.
Awesome, where is the pictures ? :D
Awesome, thanks(i love pictures).
I'm no photographer (Phone camera)
(Attachment Link)
Post by: kevral on Wed, 13 January 2016, 03:31:38
Post by: Relaxbro on Wed, 13 January 2016, 07:06:09
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 13 January 2016, 07:14:39
Hey LeandreN, does the plate support split right shift? I see the PCB does.Yes it does!
Post by: Relaxbro on Wed, 13 January 2016, 07:19:49
Hey LeandreN, does the plate support split right shift? I see the PCB does.Yes it does!
Cool thanks. I will probably go that route then.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 13 January 2016, 13:06:28
Cowetting
RGLKIHLVDSBYZWFSBHK
Was home late, had to ship out some mechmarket, i emptied the packaging material and one of those packages over had a 3 page form i had to fill out. I will to much more tomorrow, i promise!
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 13 January 2016, 13:47:34
Shipped:Is that a screenname or a tracking code? :rolleyes:
Cowetting
RGLKIHLVDSBYZWFSBHK
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 13 January 2016, 13:49:51
Shipped:Is that a screenname or a tracking code? :rolleyes:
Cowetting
RGLKIHLVDSBYZWFSBHK
That is definetily a screenname. From Reddit though.
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 13 January 2016, 13:50:54
Shipped:Is that a screenname or a tracking code? :rolleyes:
Cowetting
RGLKIHLVDSBYZWFSBHK
I think KPhmBXZoLJuKUwJ1BYWK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77738.0) might beat that one for length :P
Post by: rotciveel on Wed, 13 January 2016, 14:35:22
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:35:50
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/40ug06/eunoh_jdleandren_60_plates_sa_crap_keys_iso_pbt/
Order now!
Post by: theginginator on Wed, 13 January 2016, 17:23:07
Post by: beltet on Wed, 13 January 2016, 17:56:10
Rarabka233
pseudonymjames
nathanrosspowell
beltet
ekx
These shipped today! I have been busy with the Z cases i had to ship out.
Great Thanks!
Post by: mashby on Thu, 14 January 2016, 09:51:15
All potatoes welcome. :cool:
Post by: xondat on Thu, 14 January 2016, 10:14:30
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:25:11
Arcanitte
Numpy
mversion
wockytocky
RayNele
briancvrrbs
DavinDidIt
potatowire
Ddcolt
EDIT: chancellorr
Let me see your pictures when stuff arrives!
Post by: f1xedgear on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:38:14
Shipped today:
Arcanitte
Numpy
mversion
wockytocky
RayNele
briancvrrbs
DavinDidIt
potatowire
Ddcolt
Let me see your pictures when stuff arrives!
Looks like I might be next! #HYPE
Post by: chancellorr on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:39:00
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:41:01
The spreadsheet says that you sent mine but you didn't list me in any of your shipping updates. Don't mess with my head LeandreN! 😉
Yours was shipped, sorry. Edited now. :))
Post by: chancellorr on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:42:03
I'm so excited!! Thank you! This has easily been the best GB I've been a part of.The spreadsheet says that you sent mine but you didn't list me in any of your shipping updates. Don't mess with my head LeandreN! 😉
Yours was shipped, sorry. Edited now. :))
Post by: Vimto on Thu, 14 January 2016, 13:16:42
I've seen in the leandren vids on youtube that you should use lubricant on the stabilizers.
I'm based in Hong Kong, and can see it in TaoBao but it's in huge quantities, and I'd probably buy the wrong stuff.
Also where else should I use lubricant? In the switches?
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 00:29:38
Post by: xondat on Fri, 15 January 2016, 04:56:01
This is going to be my first custom build, and I was wondering where I could buy krytox lubricant from?
I've seen in the leandren vids on youtube that you should use lubricant on the stabilizers.
I'm based in Hong Kong, and can see it in TaoBao but it's in huge quantities, and I'd probably buy the wrong stuff.
Also where else should I use lubricant? In the switches?
I bought mine from techkeys.us
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 15 January 2016, 11:40:59
Please PM me if you are missing something, I have not much replacements.
Post by: rotciveel on Fri, 15 January 2016, 11:44:17
Post by: itzmeluigi on Fri, 15 January 2016, 12:00:22
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 15 January 2016, 12:07:46
Crappy quality for now, will play around with it this weekend.
Post by: mashby on Fri, 15 January 2016, 12:33:47
Post by: cjhard on Fri, 15 January 2016, 12:35:50
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 15 January 2016, 12:42:15
Post by: tDr1v3r on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:14:06
Post by: chancellorr on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:19:37
Is there any information about the supplied firmware and bootloader?http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:22:51
Is there any information about the supplied firmware and bootloader?Not sure if this helps, but the source for the firmware is on GitHub here (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU). I think the bootloader is the default one that comes with the atmega32 microcontroller.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:24:59
^
Or you can follow this guide.
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:29:06
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0
^
Or you can follow this guide.
Note that the B.face runs ps2avrGB, while the FaceW in those examples runs ps2avrU. The guide should be the same for both other than you need to remember to flash the right firmware :D
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:51:51
As soon as I've done that I could go about figuring the pinouts for each row/column and do some tests.
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:57:18
Right, I was thinking of flashing TMK on mine, but I have to drill new holes on the PCB first (didn't support my flipped off-center-stem spacebar :p).
As soon as I've done that I could go about figuring the pinouts for each row/column and do some tests.
Were you going to replace the microcontroller? The B.face/FaceW boards do not support TMK because of they lack hardware USB and the USB stack used by ps2avrGB is not supported by TMK (https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/186#issuecomment-96947844).
Edit: Regarding the spacebar stem, maybe it would be easier to graft a new stem onto the spacebar from a key you dont mind destroying?
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:13:08
Were you going to replace the microcontroller? The B.face/FaceW boards do not support TMK because of they lack hardware USB and the USB stack used by ps2avrGB is not supported by TMK (https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/186#issuecomment-96947844).
That makes it a bit more challenging, I thought it was using the U4.
Edit: Regarding the spacebar stem, maybe it would be easier to graft a new stem onto the spacebar from a key you dont mind destroying?
Drilling three holes and jumpwiring it to the pins next to it is a better long-term solution IMO.
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:17:19
Were you going to replace the microcontroller? The B.face/FaceW boards do not support TMK because of they lack hardware USB and the USB stack used by ps2avrGB is not supported by TMK (https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/186#issuecomment-96947844).
That makes it a bit more challenging, I thought it was using the U4.Edit: Regarding the spacebar stem, maybe it would be easier to graft a new stem onto the spacebar from a key you dont mind destroying?
Drilling three holes and jumpwiring it to the pins next to it is a better long-term solution IMO.
Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill :) AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.
Edit: remove dangling half-though-out sentence that wasnt supposed to be there :P
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:28:30
Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill :) AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.
Since you can mount the switches to the plate
I'll have to cut the MISO trace (which I have no use for myself anyways), as it's pretty much directly where the top pin would be.
Kind of considering selling the kit instead, should've done more research beforehand.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:29:40
Well, if you do that, there is definitely people around that is willing to pick it up.Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill :) AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.
Since you can mount the switches to the plate
I'll have to cut the MISO trace (which I have no use for myself anyways), as it's pretty much directly where the top pin would be.
Kind of considering selling the kit instead, should've done more research beforehand.
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 15 January 2016, 15:45:19
Well, if you do that, there is definitely people around that is willing to pick it up.Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill :) AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.
Since you can mount the switches to the plate
I'll have to cut the MISO trace (which I have no use for myself anyways), as it's pretty much directly where the top pin would be.
Kind of considering selling the kit instead, should've done more research beforehand.
No doubt :thumb:
Post by: techmattr on Fri, 15 January 2016, 21:44:48
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 16 January 2016, 04:56:31
Got my order today. Thanks LeandreN! Great job! :thumb:
Hopefully you have enough stabilisers for a lifetime :D
Post by: flob_ert on Sat, 16 January 2016, 05:37:48
[attach=1]
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 16 January 2016, 05:40:06
I am still waiting on keycaps, but I couldn't resist the urge to build...
(Attachment Link)
wooo!
That looks really nice.
Is that the Vortex CNC case?
Post by: flob_ert on Sat, 16 January 2016, 05:48:22
I am still waiting on keycaps, but I couldn't resist the urge to build...
(Attachment Link)
wooo!
That looks really nice.
Is that the Vortex CNC case?
Thanks :)
It is the Vortex case, I got it from pexon during the sales. It needed a little modding for the PCB to fit as the fins blocked some of the controller parts.
[attach=1]
[attach=2]
Post by: kevral on Sun, 17 January 2016, 06:20:04
It is the Vortex case, I got it from pexon during the sales. It needed a little modding for the PCB to fit as the fins blocked some of the controller parts.
Oh joy, I was planning on using that exact case and wasn't prepared to dremel it...
Which plate is that? Steel or grey aluminium? End product looks good :)
Post by: flob_ert on Sun, 17 January 2016, 10:53:06
It is the Vortex case, I got it from pexon during the sales. It needed a little modding for the PCB to fit as the fins blocked some of the controller parts.
Oh joy, I was planning on using that exact case and wasn't prepared to dremel it...
Which plate is that? Steel or grey aluminium? End product looks good :)
Thank you. I wouldn't worry about it, using a Dremel it only took a couple of minutes to grind down the fins. I ordered the steel plate in the GB but used a grey plate (also bought from LeandreN) for this build.
I would love to see some pictures when you finish your build :)
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Sun, 17 January 2016, 17:59:27
I bought some zealios when he had his sale a few weeks ago and it looks like the two plastic pieces on the switches are preventing the metal contacts to go all the way through the PCB. Do I need to clip those off first?
I also wanted some LEDs for my switches and wanted to know if there were any recommendations for the Winkeyless PCB. If I could get them on Amazon, that would be great.
One last question - is there a guide or YouTube video of someone assembling everything? I'd like to follow along with someone elses build to make sure I don't mess anything up! :P
Post by: Numpy on Sun, 17 January 2016, 18:42:31
I received my package this weekend and the plate looks awesome! This is the first build I've done and have a couple questions :)
I bought some zealios when he had his sale a few weeks ago and it looks like the two plastic pieces on the switches are preventing the metal contacts to go all the way through the PCB. Do I need to clip those off first?
I also wanted some LEDs for my switches and wanted to know if there were any recommendations for the Winkeyless PCB. If I could get them on Amazon, that would be great.
One last question - is there a guide or YouTube video of someone assembling everything? I'd like to follow along with someone elses build to make sure I don't mess anything up! :P
Here's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdLAdci6p-w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdLAdci6p-w) a super useful video that I'm going to use to build my keyboard.
Hope it helps! :D
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 17 January 2016, 19:18:12
I received my package this weekend and the plate looks awesome! This is the first build I've done and have a couple questions :)
I bought some zealios when he had his sale a few weeks ago and it looks like the two plastic pieces on the switches are preventing the metal contacts to go all the way through the PCB. Do I need to clip those off first?
I also wanted some LEDs for my switches and wanted to know if there were any recommendations for the Winkeyless PCB. If I could get them on Amazon, that would be great.
One last question - is there a guide or YouTube video of someone assembling everything? I'd like to follow along with someone elses build to make sure I don't mess anything up! :P
You don't need to clip anything, the two plastic pins on PCB mount switches are supposed to go into the corresponding holes on the PCB. They are supposed to have an interference fit, and sometimes feel like they actually "snap" into place once you get them seated all the way (at least mine did).
I think pretty much any 3mm LED will work.
LeandreN made this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVtTIFuQ4VY) of a B.face build a short time ago, which should help.
Post by: nmur on Mon, 18 January 2016, 03:13:54
build is imminent
(http://i.imgur.com/0MDGe5a.jpg)
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 18 January 2016, 03:14:51
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 18 January 2016, 03:15:32
got my stuff!
build is imminentShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0MDGe5a.jpg)
Wow, this is going to be a beautiful build. Thanks for posting and have fun!
Post by: nmur on Mon, 18 January 2016, 03:16:28
got my stuff!
build is imminentShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0MDGe5a.jpg)
Wow, this is going to be a beautiful build. Thanks for posting and have fun!
thank you!
I'll make sure to post back here when I'm done
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 January 2016, 03:45:01
Thank you LeandreN.
Post by: Numpy on Mon, 18 January 2016, 04:19:16
got my stuff!Wow, you're going to pull off a professional looking white board super well.
build is imminentShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0MDGe5a.jpg)
If you don't mind me asking, what's the blue sheet of paper for?
Post by: nmur on Mon, 18 January 2016, 04:24:57
thanks dudegot my stuff!Wow, you're going to pull off a professional looking white board super well.
build is imminentShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0MDGe5a.jpg)
If you don't mind me asking, what's the blue sheet of paper for?
those are switch stickers. they're meant to reduce wobbling between the bottom and top half of the switch housing, but the difference is minimal, if noticeable at all. it's more for aesthetics.
Post by: Numpy on Mon, 18 January 2016, 06:03:49
Oh right, thanks for your opinion on them or I would have felt obliged to go out and get some :))thanks dudegot my stuff!Wow, you're going to pull off a professional looking white board super well.
build is imminentShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0MDGe5a.jpg)
If you don't mind me asking, what's the blue sheet of paper for?
those are switch stickers. they're meant to reduce wobbling between the bottom and top half of the switch housing, but the difference is minimal, if noticeable at all. it's more for aesthetics.
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 18 January 2016, 06:11:24
When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?
sorry for bumping.. anyone can advise?
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 January 2016, 06:13:38
When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?Most PCBs come with a preloaded firmware. Just plug it in and see what keys register. You might want to flash your firmware anyway. It's very easy with the GUI software.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 18 January 2016, 06:25:40
When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?Most PCBs come with a preloaded firmware. Just plug it in and see what keys register. You might want to flash your firmware anyway. It's very easy with the GUI software.
It will come pre flashed. Also left alt and left CTRL won't work, you need to reassign them from Korean letters.
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 18 January 2016, 07:39:56
When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?Most PCBs come with a preloaded firmware. Just plug it in and see what keys register. You might want to flash your firmware anyway. It's very easy with the GUI software.
It will come pre flashed. Also left alt and left CTRL won't work, you need to reassign them from Korean letters.
nice, thanks :thumb:
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 January 2016, 07:51:52
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.
(http://i.imgur.com/HpS6j8j.jpg)
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 18 January 2016, 08:57:59
Post by: braidn on Mon, 18 January 2016, 09:09:09
Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HpS6j8j.jpg)
Pretty much what I am building but without the 1u's (winkeyless)
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 18 January 2016, 09:19:29
Same here.Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HpS6j8j.jpg)
Pretty much what I am building but without the 1u's (winkeyless)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 18 January 2016, 09:30:54
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/41jebq/eunoh_bface_x2_pcbs_and_carbon_fibre_plate_w_sepa/
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 18 January 2016, 10:35:04
Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HpS6j8j.jpg)
Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HpS6j8j.jpg)
This is a cool layout. Eliminating stabilisers, i see.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:33:10
Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:34:13
This is a cool layout. Eliminating stabilisers, i see.Indeed, on the other board I might probably go for 2.25u right shift because it's easier for keycaps.
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:35:55
Awesome! Thank you.Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:50:05
Wow, might take a while for stuff to reach Michigan then...Awesome! Thank you.Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:51:18
Shipping to USA is often faster than some European countries.Wow, might take a while for stuff to reach Michigan then...Awesome! Thank you.Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 18 January 2016, 11:54:15
Even better. Thanks again LeandreNShipping to USA is often faster than some European countries.Wow, might take a while for stuff to reach Michigan then...Awesome! Thank you.Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.
Post by: Sisric on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:55:12
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:05:25
Got mine! Thanks LeandreN! Now I need to figure out how to build the bloody thing... :D
Use on of my builds as a refrence :D
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:01:17
Post by: reddragon394 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:08:27
picture
A scale with a piece function, nice :D
Post by: xondat on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:10:37
Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/19/1df63e294fa64345bad5a16b96f47178.jpg)
That looks so much easier.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:46:44
I completed (one of) my board(s).
(http://i.imgur.com/vtItTRy.jpg)
I decided to go for a 2.25u right shift to match the set.
Happy building everyone, enjoy the amazing GB.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:56:36
Another potato picture of mine.
I completed (one of) my board(s).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vtItTRy.jpg)
I decided to go for a 2.25u right shift to match the set.
Happy building everyone, enjoy the amazing GB.
That set looks great! Where is it from?
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 January 2016, 15:59:16
Original Cherry G81-3000/SAI (PBT dyesub) except Enter and pipe/backslash that are ABS doubleshot from an original US set.Another potato picture of mine.
I completed (one of) my board(s).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vtItTRy.jpg)
I decided to go for a 2.25u right shift to match the set.
Happy building everyone, enjoy the amazing GB.
That set looks great! Where is it from?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 January 2016, 16:00:35
Wow. Thats a good score.Original Cherry G81-3000/SAI (PBT dyesub) except Enter and pipe/backslash that are ABS doubleshot from an original US set.Another potato picture of mine.
I completed (one of) my board(s).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vtItTRy.jpg)
I decided to go for a 2.25u right shift to match the set.
Happy building everyone, enjoy the amazing GB.
That set looks great! Where is it from?
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 January 2016, 16:03:16
Very good score considering that I bought each second hand keyboard for € 35, shipped.Wow. Thats a good score.Original Cherry G81-3000/SAI (PBT dyesub) except Enter and pipe/backslash that are ABS doubleshot from an original US set.Another potato picture of mine.
I completed (one of) my board(s).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vtItTRy.jpg)
I decided to go for a 2.25u right shift to match the set.
Happy building everyone, enjoy the amazing GB.
That set looks great! Where is it from?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 January 2016, 16:17:47
Very good score considering that I bought each second hand keyboard for € 35, shipped.Wow. Thats a good score.Original Cherry G81-3000/SAI (PBT dyesub) except Enter and pipe/backslash that are ABS doubleshot from an original US set.Another potato picture of mine.
I completed (one of) my board(s).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vtItTRy.jpg)
I decided to go for a 2.25u right shift to match the set.
Happy building everyone, enjoy the amazing GB.
That set looks great! Where is it from?
That's a steal!
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 January 2016, 16:22:50
;)Very good score considering that I bought each second hand keyboard for € 35, shipped.Wow. Thats a good score.Original Cherry G81-3000/SAI (PBT dyesub) except Enter and pipe/backslash that are ABS doubleshot from an original US set.Another potato picture of mine.
I completed (one of) my board(s).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vtItTRy.jpg)
I decided to go for a 2.25u right shift to match the set.
Happy building everyone, enjoy the amazing GB.
That set looks great! Where is it from?
That's a steal!
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 19 January 2016, 20:39:58
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 19 January 2016, 22:09:41
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 20 January 2016, 02:16:54
Sent you a PM LeandreN
Replied!
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 20 January 2016, 06:56:48
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/20/ea065598ff502b31b1b7cf99d94737b1.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/20/dd548fa48208fba9e3577761809ac51a.jpg)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 20 January 2016, 07:21:11
picture
A scale with a piece function, nice :D
"Add 500.000 flours, and stir. Next, take a pinch - say 40.000 sugars and add while stirring."
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 20 January 2016, 08:17:50
picture
A scale with a piece function, nice :D
"Add 500.000 flours, and stir. Next, take a pinch - say 40.000 sugars and add while stirring."
I have started measuring baking ingredients in the unit "Gaterons" now.
Post by: Tachi on Wed, 20 January 2016, 12:58:30
Shall have to look for a board to build.
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 20 January 2016, 13:40:32
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:48:31
@LeandreN: Got 50 more Gateron blues by any chance?
Yes i do have that, however i have very little time to ship it :/
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:54:40
PMed.@LeandreN: Got 50 more Gateron blues by any chance?
Yes i do have that, however i have very little time to ship it :/
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:55:10
PMed.@LeandreN: Got 50 more Gateron blues by any chance?
Yes i do have that, however i have very little time to ship it :/
No you didn't :P
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:56:35
I posted here before actually PMing you. You're too quick.PMed.@LeandreN: Got 50 more Gateron blues by any chance?
Yes i do have that, however i have very little time to ship it :/
No you didn't :P
Post by: Sisric on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:40:23
Post by: dae1 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:45:02
I do have a question. With the tier 3 pcb with the RGB leds, would it be ok to add LEDs to keyswitches? I haven't seen anyone with both yet. Also, I guess you can't map mouse controls with the bootmapper editor right?
Post by: chancellorr on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:47:03
This was a learning experience. I found a few Zealio purples that were bad meaning a slight touch activates the key press and would see double characters before I hit bottom. Accidentally putting the switches in the W/L holes, oops. The clear acrylic case frop Ziptyze was causing the pcb stabilizer for the space bar to dislodge and causing a 'sticky' effect on the space bar. I thought I put the stabilizer wrong, but noticed that it was hitting some sort of lip inside of the case. I used a dremel to clear space. Works great now. The RGB leds looks beautiful with it.I've seen a few online with both the RGB led and in key leds. You should be good! This is what I'm planning on doing.
I do have a question. With the tier 3 pcb with the RGB leds, would it be ok to add LEDs to keyswitches? I haven't seen anyone with both yet. Also, I guess you can't map mouse controls with the bootmapper editor right?
Post by: dae1 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:48:44
I've built it! However I have no idea how to work the firmware and now half my board isn't working... Anyone have an easy tutorial and know how to reset it to default? Also some of my LED's aren't working, don't know if it's just another firmware issue or if it is a problem with the keyboard :(
I followed the instructions here if you haven't already done so:
http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183
I had the same issue with the LEDs like you did, too. But if you use the BootMapperClient, you can go to Options->Num of RGB Leds and set that to 16.
I actually mapped the ROW-COLUMN. Follow this: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/5f7fa6abb1a691714953
It's very small but you can see the row-column values that map to that key.
Post by: dae1 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:55:00
This was a learning experience. I found a few Zealio purples that were bad meaning a slight touch activates the key press and would see double characters before I hit bottom. Accidentally putting the switches in the W/L holes, oops. The clear acrylic case frop Ziptyze was causing the pcb stabilizer for the space bar to dislodge and causing a 'sticky' effect on the space bar. I thought I put the stabilizer wrong, but noticed that it was hitting some sort of lip inside of the case. I used a dremel to clear space. Works great now. The RGB leds looks beautiful with it.I've seen a few online with both the RGB led and in key leds. You should be good! This is what I'm planning on doing.
I do have a question. With the tier 3 pcb with the RGB leds, would it be ok to add LEDs to keyswitches? I haven't seen anyone with both yet. Also, I guess you can't map mouse controls with the bootmapper editor right?
Awesome! Thanks! This is how it looks like right now:
http://imgur.com/p9gFEew
Post by: chancellorr on Thu, 21 January 2016, 14:25:43
Mmmmmmm. Love Deep Space. I plan on building a Deep Space Planck one of these days.This was a learning experience. I found a few Zealio purples that were bad meaning a slight touch activates the key press and would see double characters before I hit bottom. Accidentally putting the switches in the W/L holes, oops. The clear acrylic case frop Ziptyze was causing the pcb stabilizer for the space bar to dislodge and causing a 'sticky' effect on the space bar. I thought I put the stabilizer wrong, but noticed that it was hitting some sort of lip inside of the case. I used a dremel to clear space. Works great now. The RGB leds looks beautiful with it.I've seen a few online with both the RGB led and in key leds. You should be good! This is what I'm planning on doing.
I do have a question. With the tier 3 pcb with the RGB leds, would it be ok to add LEDs to keyswitches? I haven't seen anyone with both yet. Also, I guess you can't map mouse controls with the bootmapper editor right?
Awesome! Thanks! This is how it looks like right now:
http://imgur.com/p9gFEew
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 21 January 2016, 14:37:50
I've built it! However I have no idea how to work the firmware and now half my board isn't working... Anyone have an easy tutorial and know how to reset it to default? Also some of my LED's aren't working, don't know if it's just another firmware issue or if it is a problem with the keyboard :(
Follow this guide: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183
And flash the default file.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 January 2016, 14:38:25
Post by: Relaxbro on Thu, 21 January 2016, 15:14:46
Post by: Sisric on Thu, 21 January 2016, 17:15:56
I've built it! However I have no idea how to work the firmware and now half my board isn't working... Anyone have an easy tutorial and know how to reset it to default? Also some of my LED's aren't working, don't know if it's just another firmware issue or if it is a problem with the keyboard :(
Follow this guide: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183
And flash the default file.
Thank you for your help, but really I am just an idiot :p I sorted it now and this thing is beautiful! No key caps on it yet but I brought it to work to sort it out. Thank you again for the group buy, this has been awesome and I've already ordered by Zealios keys for my next keyboard ;) Hope to see another group buy from yourself soon! I'll post a picture tomorrow :)
Post by: reddragon394 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 22:50:34
Got the package today! Thanks LeandreN
Woooo, where do you live? Yours probably was sent with my lot together, but I'm still desperately waiting for it :D
Post by: Butter on Thu, 21 January 2016, 23:00:00
Post by: faxe on Fri, 22 January 2016, 05:45:05
Post by: itzmeluigi on Fri, 22 January 2016, 17:31:13
(http://i.imgur.com/9gU4iN0.jpg)
Incoming PM.
Post by: Numpy on Fri, 22 January 2016, 21:32:08
Post by: reddragon394 on Fri, 22 January 2016, 23:20:40
have some pics:
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3][attach=4][attach=5][attach=6]
And yes, the ugly USB cable will be replaced :D
ISO GER, white in-switch LEDs, PBT Vortex set for now ... really waiting for their doubleshot PBT backlit ISOs
Post by: Numpy on Sat, 23 January 2016, 02:41:30
Woooo it all came! Thanks LeandreN for this great GB! :D ... Though you forgot to change my shipping address that i emailed you about :P Thats ok though, i was lucky someone was here to take the package :DWow, your build looks amazing. Makes me even more excited to get my stuff ;D
have some pics:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
And yes, the ugly USB cable will be replaced :D
ISO GER, white in-switch LEDs, PBT Vortex set for now ... really waiting for their doubleshot PBT backlit ISOs
Did your PCB happen to come with resistors for the in switch LEDs?
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 23 January 2016, 02:55:28
All the PCBs have resistors for switch leds.Woooo it all came! Thanks LeandreN for this great GB! :D ... Though you forgot to change my shipping address that i emailed you aboutWow, your build looks amazing. Makes me even more excited to get my stuff ;DThats ok though, i was lucky someone was here to take the package :D
have some pics:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
And yes, the ugly USB cable will be replaced :D
ISO GER, white in-switch LEDs, PBT Vortex set for now ... really waiting for their doubleshot PBT backlit ISOs
Did your PCB happen to come with resistors for the in switch LEDs?
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 23 January 2016, 06:03:17
Woooo it all came! Thanks LeandreN for this great GB! :D ... Though you forgot to change my shipping address that i emailed you about :P Thats ok though, i was lucky someone was here to take the package :D
have some pics:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
And yes, the ugly USB cable will be replaced :D
ISO GER, white in-switch LEDs, PBT Vortex set for now ... really waiting for their doubleshot PBT backlit ISOs
That was probably why it took a while, it really shouldnt have taken more than a day. Sorry about that. Your build looks great. Hopefully you like it!
Post by: faxe on Sat, 23 January 2016, 08:50:16
And plans changed back to green plate and dolch because I found the 1.75 right shift I thought I didn't have for the split right shift.
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 23 January 2016, 09:00:28
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-Keyboard-GH60-plastic-Case-for-60-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatoble-PBT-Keycaps-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/1555390_32311183273.html
Post by: reddragon394 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 11:44:54
That was probably why it took a while, it really shouldnt have taken more than a day. Sorry about that. Your build looks great. Hopefully you like it!
i dont think it would have been any faster with the other address, but no worries, its all good now! :D And yes, i like the build! :D
Edit: I seem to just have 6KRO, wasnt the driver claiming to be NKRO? Anyone knowing if there is a setting for it?
Post by: faxe on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:00:55
Will this case also need some dremeling?
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-Keyboard-GH60-plastic-Case-for-60-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatoble-PBT-Keycaps-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/1555390_32311183273.html
This is exactly my case (the non mentioned but available transparent version). Further investigation reveals no dremeling neccessary!
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:09:13
Thx a lot LeandreN! :thumb:
From the looks everything looks pretty much perfect to me!
One little thing tho:
A stabilizer bars escaped the small plastic bag and almost made it out of the box,
but its all good and Im super happy to have some smexy pcbs for upcoming builds!
No issue, just figured Id mention it! =)
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:58:13
Will this case also need some dremeling?I owned this case before giving a board to a friend. It's a bit taller than the others and there's more room on the bottom. I guess you don't need any cutting.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-Keyboard-GH60-plastic-Case-for-60-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatoble-PBT-Keycaps-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/1555390_32311183273.html
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 23 January 2016, 12:59:25
Edit: I seem to just have 6KRO, wasnt the driver claiming to be NKRO? Anyone knowing if there is a setting for it?It's 6KRO under USB and NKRO on PS2. I guess you can try with an adapter.
Post by: Numpy on Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:04:54
Ok, good to hear! Thanks.All the PCBs have resistors for switch leds.Woooo it all came! Thanks LeandreN for this great GB! :D ... Though you forgot to change my shipping address that i emailed you aboutWow, your build looks amazing. Makes me even more excited to get my stuff ;D
have some pics:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
And yes, the ugly USB cable will be replaced :D
ISO GER, white in-switch LEDs, PBT Vortex set for now ... really waiting for their doubleshot PBT backlit ISOs
Did your PCB happen to come with resistors for the in switch LEDs?
Also, should switches be soldered in before the switch LEDs or other way around?
Post by: chancellorr on Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:13:29
I always do the switches first.Ok, good to hear! Thanks.All the PCBs have resistors for switch leds.Woooo it all came! Thanks LeandreN for this great GB! :D ... Though you forgot to change my shipping address that i emailed you aboutWow, your build looks amazing. Makes me even more excited to get my stuff ;D
have some pics:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
And yes, the ugly USB cable will be replaced :D
ISO GER, white in-switch LEDs, PBT Vortex set for now ... really waiting for their doubleshot PBT backlit ISOs
Did your PCB happen to come with resistors for the in switch LEDs?
Also, should switches be soldered in before the switch LEDs or other way around?
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:45:20
Will this case also need some dremeling?
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-Keyboard-GH60-plastic-Case-for-60-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatoble-PBT-Keycaps-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/1555390_32311183273.html
This is exactly my case (the non mentioned but available transparent version). Further investigation reveals no dremeling neccessary!
Will this case also need some dremeling?I owned this case before giving a board to a friend. It's a bit taller than the others and there's more room on the bottom. I guess you don't need any cutting.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-Keyboard-GH60-plastic-Case-for-60-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatoble-PBT-Keycaps-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/1555390_32311183273.html
Ahh so glad to hear no dremeeling necessary. I don't own one..
Post by: Numpy on Sat, 23 January 2016, 21:01:09
Ah ok. Thank you I will probably do it this way then :)I always do the switches first.Ok, good to hear! Thanks.All the PCBs have resistors for switch leds.Woooo it all came! Thanks LeandreN for this great GB! :D ... Though you forgot to change my shipping address that i emailed you aboutWow, your build looks amazing. Makes me even more excited to get my stuff ;D
have some pics:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
And yes, the ugly USB cable will be replaced :D
ISO GER, white in-switch LEDs, PBT Vortex set for now ... really waiting for their doubleshot PBT backlit ISOs
Did your PCB happen to come with resistors for the in switch LEDs?
Also, should switches be soldered in before the switch LEDs or other way around?
Post by: faxe on Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:50:55
Post by: beltet on Sun, 24 January 2016, 10:43:05
Thanks for a quality service!
Post by: faxe on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:38:40
Round 4 Round 3 Style Dolch, Cherry Clear switches, Green Plate, Tier 3 PCB, split right shift, cheapo transparent plastic case.
Thanks Leandren for organising this group buy. I hereby declare that my 60% buying is finished. Next project will be something completely different :)
P.S. How do I change RGB mode via keyboard? I can't get it to work...
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:45:18
Pics or it didn't happen:Show Image(http://imgur.com/qgajH9s)
Round 4 Round 3 Style Dolch, Cherry Clear switches, Green Plate, Tier 3 PCB, split right shift, cheapo transparent plastic case.
Thanks Leandren for organising this group buy. I hereby declare that my 60% buying is finished. Next project will be something completely different :)
P.S. How do I change RGB mode via keyboard? I can't get it to work...
:D Fantastic. Where is that keyset from?
This means i need to do a GB for other layouts...
I think you only can change the RGB LEDs from the software, or add it as hotkeys, not entirely sure.
Post by: faxe on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:52:58
Hotkeys let me turn them on and off, nothing else sadly.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:00:00
Keyset is https://deskthority.net/wiki/Round4_Round3 from deskthority user 7bit. DCS profile dolch. Was very lucky to find it used from a guy in finland who had a german layout :)
Hotkeys let me turn them on and off, nothing else sadly.
Ahh! he did DCS before SA. I understand.
Post by: wodan on Mon, 25 January 2016, 03:12:33
Thanks LeandreN
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 25 January 2016, 05:40:35
Got my order/s :)
Thanks LeandreN
Fantastic, looking forward to some pictures.
Post by: wodan on Mon, 25 January 2016, 06:08:18
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 25 January 2016, 06:13:17
Here's a pic, the key caps could use a good scrubbing but I was so excited to put them on I skipped that ...
Dude! You have OG skidata! That's awesome. I also have that one. Gonna be using it with a true Winkeyless plate ;)
Post by: wodan on Mon, 25 January 2016, 06:27:32
Skidata keyboards were available on ebay here in large amounts for 90€. That's already a steal for the incredible amount of MX Clear switches you can harvest from those things ...
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 25 January 2016, 10:40:29
Thanks to my man LeandreN for making it happen, great service, communication and friendliness!
10/10
A quick preview....
(http://i.imgur.com/M3ehKeF.jpg)
Delicious!
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 January 2016, 14:03:38
A quick preview....No stabilizers?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M3ehKeF.jpg)
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 25 January 2016, 14:11:27
Was dead sure to use korean style 7u spacebar with 1.5u bottom row but now I'm playing around with different possibilities...which is nice too :))
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 25 January 2016, 14:11:40
A quick preview....Your right shift key switch is in the spot for a 2.75u key, but you have also have a switch in the spot for the split shift option.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M3ehKeF.jpg)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 January 2016, 14:13:28
7u spacebar with 1.5u bottom rowThis.
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 25 January 2016, 14:23:03
No worries, was only making sure I have enough ergo clears lubed and sip'ed for the worst case layout scenario :)A quick preview....Your right shift key switch is in the spot for a 2.75u key, but you have also have a switch in the spot for the split shift option.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M3ehKeF.jpg)
Post by: ekx on Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:40:13
(http://i.imgur.com/155vqaD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/A3I04gh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/d5r0550.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2nC1Cl5.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 25 January 2016, 16:11:51
Mine arrived last week. Had to wait for the acrylic case from massdrop which arrived yesterday. Dermeling the case wasn't as hard as I thought. Had a small issue with the spacebar stabilizer wire not fitting between the pcb and the plate though, but nothing a little bending couldn't fix. I'm really happy with how it turned out. The frosted acrylic case from massdrop looks great with the RGB leds.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/155vqaD.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A3I04gh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/d5r0550.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2nC1Cl5.jpg)
This build is damn gorgeous. It's such a shame oversold the blue plates, so i have none for myself.
I love it!
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 25 January 2016, 19:38:47
http://imgur.com/AzntPLD
The build
http://imgur.com/YPxnn3u
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 25 January 2016, 19:41:09
My stuff arrived today but unfortunately my plate was damaged in shipping as you can see below. Luckily I didn't need it for this build, still a bummer though.
http://imgur.com/AzntPLD
The build
http://imgur.com/YPxnn3u
I hope this means I get mine tomorrow! (I live on the west side of Michigan)
Post by: chancellorr on Mon, 25 January 2016, 21:23:43
I hope so too!My stuff arrived today but unfortunately my plate was damaged in shipping as you can see below. Luckily I didn't need it for this build, still a bummer though.
http://imgur.com/AzntPLD
The build
http://imgur.com/YPxnn3u
I hope this means I get mine tomorrow! (I live on the west side of Michigan)
Post by: Steezus on Mon, 25 January 2016, 22:35:43
My stuff arrived today but unfortunately my plate was damaged in shipping as you can see below. Luckily I didn't need it for this build, still a bummer though.
http://imgur.com/AzntPLD
The build
http://imgur.com/YPxnn3u
The plate should still be fixable, aluminum is very malleable.
Post by: Vimto on Tue, 26 January 2016, 04:29:08
(http://i.imgur.com/ND2hNyc.jpg)
I can't remember what I ordered, is there anywhere I can check? Just to make sure everything arrived OK.
For the PCB do we have to remove the edges of the PCB which look kind of perforated, and whats the best way to remove them?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 26 January 2016, 04:31:00
My stuff arrived in Hong Kong today, unfortunately the box was damaged.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ND2hNyc.jpg)
I can't remember what I ordered, is there anywhere I can check? Just to make sure everything arrived OK.
For the PCB do we have to remove the edges of the PCB which look kind of perforated, and whats the best way to remove them?
Just PM me.
Hopefully everything was alright. You need to break of the PCB parts on the sides.
Post by: Vimto on Tue, 26 January 2016, 06:46:12
What kind of stabilizer is this? Cherry or Costar?
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 26 January 2016, 06:57:50
Another dumb question.Cherry, either PCB or plate mounted.
What kind of stabilizer is this? Cherry or Costar?
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 26 January 2016, 06:59:36
Another dumb question.Cherry, either PCB or plate mounted.
What kind of stabilizer is this? Cherry or Costar?
Cherry, PCB mounted.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 26 January 2016, 07:17:05
Confirmed? If not I'll try the one plate mounted stab I got.Another dumb question.Cherry, either PCB or plate mounted.
What kind of stabilizer is this? Cherry or Costar?
Cherry, PCB mounted.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 26 January 2016, 07:20:03
Confirmed? If not I'll try the one plate mounted stab I got.Another dumb question.Cherry, either PCB or plate mounted.
What kind of stabilizer is this? Cherry or Costar?
Cherry, PCB mounted.
Yes, confirmed.
PM me about the Gaterons tonight.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 26 January 2016, 07:22:51
Alright then.Confirmed? If not I'll try the one plate mounted stab I got.Another dumb question.Cherry, either PCB or plate mounted.
What kind of stabilizer is this? Cherry or Costar?
Cherry, PCB mounted.
Yes, confirmed.
PM me about the Gaterons tonight.Sure will.
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 09:51:00
Unfortunately I broke one of the stems(?) on a stabilizer when trying to snap it into the PCB. Does anyone know where I can buy another stabilizer set? Or is it possible that it'd be ok with just 3/4 of the corners in place?
I saw ortholinear kb sells them, but when I try to checkout it says there are no shipping methods for my address. ZealPC also sells sets, but I'm trying to avoid the $15 shipping for a $1 part :P
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 26 January 2016, 10:03:05
All the completed builds look great!I have some extras. Pm me your address and I can ship them sometime this week. If you are in the US that is.
Unfortunately I broke one of the stems(?) on a stabilizer when trying to snap it into the PCB. Does anyone know where I can buy another stabilizer set? Or is it possible that it'd be ok with just 3/4 of the corners in place?
I saw ortholinear kb sells them, but when I try to checkout it says there are no shipping methods for my address. ZealPC also sells sets, but I'm trying to avoid the $15 shipping for a $1 part
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Tue, 26 January 2016, 11:18:30
All the completed builds look great!I have some extras. Pm me your address and I can ship them sometime this week. If you are in the US that is.
Unfortunately I broke one of the stems(?) on a stabilizer when trying to snap it into the PCB. Does anyone know where I can buy another stabilizer set? Or is it possible that it'd be ok with just 3/4 of the corners in place?
I saw ortholinear kb sells them, but when I try to checkout it says there are no shipping methods for my address. ZealPC also sells sets, but I'm trying to avoid the $15 shipping for a $1 part
PMed. Thanks!
Post by: ClosingCircuits on Tue, 26 January 2016, 14:41:40
If not, is there any idea when another GB like this is going to occur? I'm dying to break in my new soldering iron on something more exciting than the Falcon-8.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 26 January 2016, 14:45:02
Not sure if this is the place to ask or if I should be PMing, but are there any unpaid for PCBs available still? I see a few unpaid for orders in the Google doc in the OP.All of the orders are long gone. Sorry mate.
If not, is there any idea when another GB like this is going to occur? I'm dying to break in my new soldering iron on something more exciting than the Falcon-8.
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 26 January 2016, 20:36:51
Post by: f1xedgear on Tue, 26 January 2016, 21:41:18
I did however get my new Nexus 6P today which will be used for taking some nice photos once my build is completed :D
Post by: chancellorr on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:45:47
Still no package for me yet :(Mmmmmmmmmmmm. Jealous.
I did however get my new Nexus 6P today which will be used for taking some nice photos once my build is completed :D
Post by: rabs on Wed, 27 January 2016, 04:52:41
I don't have full build pics yet, but here are a few:
(http://i.imgur.com/5l09PdP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wDmf4gE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HkgoWr1.jpg)
Post by: rotciveel on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:23:40
Quick question: Does anyone else have trouble fitting Zealios flush with the PCB without cutting the PCB pins on the switch? Or is cutting those pins something you have to do with Zealios on this board?
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:25:33
But plate is still have some swarf. Hope you 'll clean it in future GB. Anyway, thanks for your effect, LeandreN :thumb:
Some pics:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/v9h9Lxb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BFiTzlZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Jog5OvM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tLgSOcD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c3rdpSt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BFiTzlZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Jog5OvM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tLgSOcD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c3rdpSt.jpg)
Full album here: http://imgur.com/a/JjCQi
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 27 January 2016, 23:46:09
Got my stuff today!
Quick question: Does anyone else have trouble fitting Zealios flush with the PCB without cutting the PCB pins on the switch? Or is cutting those pins something you have to do with Zealios on this board?
Yeah, my Zealios aren't quite flush either, but they seem to be in as far as I can get them. At this point it's too much of a hassle to take all the switches out to clip the legs. I don't think there will be any issues, but we'll see.
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:31:28
Post by: nmur on Thu, 28 January 2016, 06:56:22
Got my stuff today!
Quick question: Does anyone else have trouble fitting Zealios flush with the PCB without cutting the PCB pins on the switch? Or is cutting those pins something you have to do with Zealios on this board?
Yeah, my Zealios aren't quite flush either, but they seem to be in as far as I can get them. At this point it's too much of a hassle to take all the switches out to clip the legs. I don't think there will be any issues, but we'll see.
hey guys I made a tutorial for just this problem (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4249if/guide_quick_way_of_fitting_cherry_mxgateron/)
better than clipping the nubs because you retain the stability, and quicker than filing them down too.
Post by: chancellorr on Thu, 28 January 2016, 07:03:14
Nice! I wish I had thought of this before. I just pushed hard. Lol.Got my stuff today!
Quick question: Does anyone else have trouble fitting Zealios flush with the PCB without cutting the PCB pins on the switch? Or is cutting those pins something you have to do with Zealios on this board?
Yeah, my Zealios aren't quite flush either, but they seem to be in as far as I can get them. At this point it's too much of a hassle to take all the switches out to clip the legs. I don't think there will be any issues, but we'll see.
hey guys I made a tutorial for just this problem (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4249if/guide_quick_way_of_fitting_cherry_mxgateron/)
better than clipping the nubs because you retain the stability, and quicker than filing them down too.
Post by: f1xedgear on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:24:09
There was basically zero shipping damage to my order. The box looked completely intact:
(http://i.imgur.com/Mb0w5yb.jpg)
Everything unpacked:
(http://i.imgur.com/UIEbjXh.jpg)
It turned out that the plate was bowed downwards slightly (I didn't notice until I set it on a flat surface), but I fixed that with some very gentle bending. Other than that, everything was perfect. 10/10 would buy again.
Thanks, LeandreN!
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:27:11
I got my stuff today! Well, actually yesterday, but I was working from home and didn't feel like driving an hour in the snow to pick it up.
There was basically zero shipping damage to my order. The box looked completely intact:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Mb0w5yb.jpg)
Everything unpacked:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UIEbjXh.jpg)
It turned out that the plate was bowed downwards slightly (I didn't notice until I set it on a flat surface), but I fixed that with some very gentle bending. Other than that, everything was perfect. 10/10 would buy again.
Thanks, LeandreN!
Sound good when it's fixed. I had same trouble in first round.
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:32:11
Do any of you guys now if i am allowed to use my Heatware to get feedback from this GB?
Post by: f1xedgear on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:33:08
Thanks for the updates people.
Do any of you guys now if i am allowed to use my Heatware to get feedback from this GB?
If you are, I'll make an account and leave some feedback for you :)
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:33:47
Here it is.
Post by: rotciveel on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:35:34
Got my stuff today!
Quick question: Does anyone else have trouble fitting Zealios flush with the PCB without cutting the PCB pins on the switch? Or is cutting those pins something you have to do with Zealios on this board?
Yeah, my Zealios aren't quite flush either, but they seem to be in as far as I can get them. At this point it's too much of a hassle to take all the switches out to clip the legs. I don't think there will be any issues, but we'll see.
hey guys I made a tutorial for just this problem (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4249if/guide_quick_way_of_fitting_cherry_mxgateron/)
better than clipping the nubs because you retain the stability, and quicker than filing them down too.
Nice! Thanks, I'll have to try this when I get home. Now I feel bad for the one Zealios that I did clip. Poor guy...
Post by: f1xedgear on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:51:13
https://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=101729Wooo! first review!
Here it is.
Post by: chancellorr on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:54:13
I got my stuff today! Well, actually yesterday, but I was working from home and didn't feel like driving an hour in the snow to pick it up.You still have a lot of snow on the west side of the state?
There was basically zero shipping damage to my order. The box looked completely intact:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Mb0w5yb.jpg)
Everything unpacked:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UIEbjXh.jpg)
It turned out that the plate was bowed downwards slightly (I didn't notice until I set it on a flat surface), but I fixed that with some very gentle bending. Other than that, everything was perfect. 10/10 would buy again.
Thanks, LeandreN!
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 28 January 2016, 08:54:16
https://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=101729Wooo! first review!
Here it is.
Thanks!
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:04:58
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:05:54
Posted my feedback. You should update your heatware on profile, LeandreN. My advice.
Thanks, my friend. BTW, did i ever refund you for the r2 plate?
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:13:27
I only participated first round & this round. You refunded me for r1 plate. I don't join r2. Maybe you mistaken :)Posted my feedback. You should update your heatware on profile, LeandreN. My advice.
Thanks, my friend. BTW, did i ever refund you for the r2 plate?
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:14:12
I only participated first round & this round. You refunded me for r1 plate. I don't join r2. Maybe you mistaken :)Posted my feedback. You should update your heatware on profile, LeandreN. My advice.
Thanks, my friend. BTW, did i ever refund you for the r2 plate?
I meant the r1 plate, sorry.
Thanks!
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 29 January 2016, 04:45:29
Post by: Relaxbro on Fri, 29 January 2016, 06:13:50
Mobile camera so sorry for the bad images.
More
(http://i.imgur.com/CbarBOm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xrUiqoD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xrUiqoD.jpg)
Thanks for the smooth GB LeandreN. Will not hesitate to join another. :thumb:
Post by: queefmonchan on Fri, 29 January 2016, 14:58:03
I tried following this http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 but nothing is changing...
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 29 January 2016, 15:05:06
I assembled my board and something isn't right. I get some crazy chatter, keys are actuating way before they should (I'm talking 1g of pressure and they actuate and register several key presses. Also after updating the firmware, as soon as the board is plugged in, it seems that all keys are being pressed at once. I get a random 4-character string that is constantly being pressed, but its random every time. Any help?If the keyboard is in bootmapper mode, the board will spit out the row/column of the pressed switch when you press a key. It looks something like "-4,5=" for a single keypress. Is that anything like what you are seeing?
I tried following this http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 but nothing is changing...
Post by: queefmonchan on Fri, 29 January 2016, 15:08:34
It doesn't stop until i hit a key, then it spams that key instead. Using switch hitter, it shows a,s,x,3 all pressed when i plug it in, and it doesn't show them ever being released. Also get some function keys showing up too.
Post by: crashkaboom on Fri, 29 January 2016, 16:12:16
(http://i.imgur.com/YTa1Y1s.jpeg)
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 29 January 2016, 16:23:01
Order is all here and ready to be built. Thanks for all the help and quick responses LeandreN :thumb:
Post by: chancellorr on Fri, 29 January 2016, 16:36:12
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160129/bd9aa8f2bc0854569a7d63c5160170ed.jpg)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 29 January 2016, 18:26:26
I guess I'll post a potato of my buildShow Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160129/bd9aa8f2bc0854569a7d63c5160170ed.jpg)
You Aussies and New Zealanders are so funny.
Post by: chancellorr on Fri, 29 January 2016, 18:39:27
Lolol. I see what you did there. But I'm American.I guess I'll post a potato of my buildShow Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160129/bd9aa8f2bc0854569a7d63c5160170ed.jpg)
You Aussies and New Zealanders are so funny.
Post by: briancvrrbs on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:06:58
I was able to fix the plate (a little, still bumpy) but I doubt the WKL PCB will work.
Pic is attached, along with the heartfelt letter from USPS.
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:41:04
Can you not get any compensation from USPS?
Post by: briancvrrbs on Fri, 29 January 2016, 21:56:19
Thats horrible. I was scared when my package came damaged, but fortunately everything seemed ok.
Can you not get any compensation from USPS?
I don't think so. I was about to start a claim for an international package but there is no USPS number on the package. The package is also valued to $10 so the most I could probably get back is that amount lol
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 30 January 2016, 04:04:49
I received my PCB, plate and stabilizers today. USPS did a great ****ing job! PCB is cracked down the right side and the plate came completely deformed :(
I was able to fix the plate (a little, still bumpy) but I doubt the WKL PCB will work.
Pic is attached, along with the heartfelt letter from USPS.
Holy ****. I have no idea how they managed to **** up that badly.
The package isn't registered in any system, so I doubt they even noted the value I put on. Definitely send them a complaint. I'll PM you.
Post by: nmur on Sat, 30 January 2016, 07:39:53
thanks for the great group buy!
gateron clears + white gateron blanks + TEX acrylic case
actual build log coming soon
(http://i.imgur.com/EBPID6a.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qW2mCyw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Zj7d0Kh.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 30 January 2016, 08:08:03
donesies!
thanks for the great group buy!
gateron clears + white gateron blanks + TEX acrylic case
actual build log coming soonShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EBPID6a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qW2mCyw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zj7d0Kh.jpg)
I want the parts back!
This is a great build, jelly, very jelly
Post by: nmur on Sat, 30 January 2016, 08:18:04
donesies!
thanks for the great group buy!
gateron clears + white gateron blanks + TEX acrylic case
actual build log coming soonShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EBPID6a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qW2mCyw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zj7d0Kh.jpg)
I want the parts back!
This is a great build, jelly, very jelly
haha thanks, but sorry, I think I'll keep this one ;)
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 30 January 2016, 11:06:40
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 30 January 2016, 11:22:04
donesies!
thanks for the great group buy!
gateron clears + white gateron blanks + TEX acrylic case
actual build log coming soonShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EBPID6a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qW2mCyw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zj7d0Kh.jpg)
Icey set up! 2nd best 60% layout after the HHKB :thumb: :cool:
Post by: rabs on Sat, 30 January 2016, 15:24:01
Can someone link me the best youtube video on how to soldering switch? My first time soldering was a disaster, lots of key were registered once, but after several press on switch hitter they were not registered again. :(
This one is the one I used predominantly:
It's really helpful - soldering starts at 50:08 and there is a bunch of other useful information as well.
Post by: lashiel on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:32:32
Now to wait for my case. And source switches and LEDs, ha.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 30 January 2016, 16:54:02
Thanks for all the updates!
I have an official statement to come with. I will probably send an email too.
There will be no more Winkeyless group buys in the nearest future.
Hojin kindly told me that Winkeyless won't run another group buy. For those that don't know, Winkeyless was the source for PCBs and stabilisers in this group buy. This means that i need to source new PCBs, and that will take a while(PM me if you have any suggestions). Plates will go on, maybe even sandwhich cases, that I have been wanting to do for a while. I have a website i am working on, and I will be trying to run my group buys of that site, i will still be making a GB thread here on Geekhack.
We have had some up and downsides of this group buy, as always. Tier 2 was upgraded to Tier 3, which became a problem for some people, shipping prices went up and USPS is messing around.
Please email me if you have a problem with your order! leandre.north@gmail.com
Thanks for joining, and I am looking forward to seeing pictures of your builds.
LeandreN
Next GB: True Winkeyless and HHKB plates. February.
Post by: itzmeluigi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:34:31
Luckily i decided to use the gray plate first, so i dont need to use the red one soon. Also im having a hard time deciding, split right shift or no split right shift?
(http://i.imgur.com/zWk8yL3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bflYlUd.jpg)
Thanks for the excellent GB, these are by far my favorite universal plates.
For your next GB will the true Winkeyless and HHKB plates support Alps stabilizers? :)
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:58:40
Luckily i decided to use the gray plate first, so i dont need to use the red one soon. Also im having a hard time deciding, split right shift or no split right shift?
Split right shift and split backspace for your HHKB stlye layout - it will change your life :thumb:
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:01:34
Post by: f1xedgear on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:07:12
Can confirm :DLuckily i decided to use the gray plate first, so i dont need to use the red one soon. Also im having a hard time deciding, split right shift or no split right shift?
Split right shift and split backspace for your HHKB stlye layout - it will change your life :thumb:
Post by: itzmeluigi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:22:01
Luckily i decided to use the gray plate first, so i dont need to use the red one soon. Also im having a hard time deciding, split right shift or no split right shift?
Split right shift and split backspace for your HHKB stlye layout - it will change your life :thumb:
Split right shift it is :), although my enjoypbt set doesnt have keys for split backspace so i dont think i can do split backspace.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 January 2016, 21:26:08
I guess I'll post a potato of my buildShow Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160129/bd9aa8f2bc0854569a7d63c5160170ed.jpg)
Is that a winkeyless case?
Post by: Numpy on Sat, 30 January 2016, 22:57:38
Should I just be using the most recent version?
Also, will there be an issue with firmware regarding the tier 2 PCB? Do I have to download a different version?
Thanks :)
Post by: chancellorr on Sat, 30 January 2016, 23:07:04
It isI guess I'll post a potato of my buildShow Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160129/bd9aa8f2bc0854569a7d63c5160170ed.jpg)
Is that a winkeyless case?
Post by: sairex on Sat, 30 January 2016, 23:56:13
Post by: Numpy on Sun, 31 January 2016, 00:13:17
What is the connection on the teensy? Is it micro or mini USB?
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 31 January 2016, 00:14:50
Sorry to spam this forum... but just a quick question:There's no teensy on the board, but the cable connector is USB mini
What is the connection on the teensy? Is it micro or mini USB?
Post by: Numpy on Sun, 31 January 2016, 00:22:19
Thanks :DSorry to spam this forum... but just a quick question:There's no teensy on the board, but the cable connector is USB mini
What is the connection on the teensy? Is it micro or mini USB?
Help a fellow rookie out and explain to me.
I was under the impression that a teensy was a type of controller. I'm probably way off :-[
What would you call the controller on the winkeyless PCB?
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 31 January 2016, 00:30:37
The teensy is a development board all by itself. It has an Atmega32U4 microcontroller plus some some other circuits on a little board. Some keyboards have a socket for this and use kne as the controller.Thanks :DSorry to spam this forum... but just a quick question:There's no teensy on the board, but the cable connector is USB mini
What is the connection on the teensy? Is it micro or mini USB?
Help a fellow rookie out and explain to me.
I was under the impression that a teensy was a type of controller. I'm probably way off :-[
What would you call the controller on the winkeyless PCB?
The winkeyless keyboard PCBs just have the microcontroller (a Atmega32) soldered directly to the PCB.
Post by: Numpy on Sun, 31 January 2016, 00:37:01
Ok I get it now.The teensy is a development board all by itself. It has an Atmega32U4 microcontroller plus some some other circuits on a little board. Some keyboards have a socket for this and use kne as the controller.Thanks :DSorry to spam this forum... but just a quick question:There's no teensy on the board, but the cable connector is USB mini
What is the connection on the teensy? Is it micro or mini USB?
Help a fellow rookie out and explain to me.
I was under the impression that a teensy was a type of controller. I'm probably way off :-[
What would you call the controller on the winkeyless PCB?
The winkeyless keyboard PCBs just have the microcontroller (a Atmega32) soldered directly to the PCB.
Thank you! :thumb:
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 02:35:29
my enjoypbt set doesnt have keys for split backspace so i dont think i can do split backspace.Use different keys from the same row. Since you're putting Esc as first key, you can use the Pipe/backslash (or whatever it is in your native layout) as 13th key and, say, num lock key as last.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 02:37:07
Has anyone had any issues trying to get the keyboard to go into Flash Programming mode? I've tried holding q, shift+Q but nothing seems to work. I can enter bootmapper mode (holding tab) no problem.Holding Q works for the FaceW.
You need to hold down the standard Ctrl key for the B.Face X2. Mind you, the by standard Ctrl I mean the bottom left key, no matter if you remap it.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 02:40:59
There will be no more Winkeyless group buys in the nearest future.That's sad because the B.Face X2 is definetely the best board I tried and I'm glad I got two.
Anyway, the only real alternative at this point is GON's NerD 60, although I've heard it takes forever to be shipped.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 31 January 2016, 02:43:27
There will be no more Winkeyless group buys in the nearest future.That's sad because the B.Face X2 is definetely the best board I tried and I'm glad I got two.
Anyway, the only real alternative at this point is GON's NerD 60, although I've heard it takes forever to be shipped.
By the way, you can combine 3 posts into 1 here.
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Still looking for Zealio so that I can finally start my build, but looks like I may have to wait until R2 drops.
Post by: rabs on Sun, 31 January 2016, 04:37:18
(http://i.imgur.com/xjgsJ57.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/UHzReH8.jpg)
Cable: Banggood (Blue/Grey)
PCB: LeandreN Winkeyless Tier 3
Stabs: LeandreN Group Buy
Case/Plate: Winkeyless Diffuser Case
Switches: Cherry MX Browns
LEDs: White
Keycaps: Deep Space
Post by: itzmeluigi on Sun, 31 January 2016, 06:29:36
Thanks that worked out perfectly :D Now i just need to find a nice heavy alu case for it.my enjoypbt set doesnt have keys for split backspace so i dont think i can do split backspace.Use different keys from the same row. Since you're putting Esc as first key, you can use the Pipe/backslash (or whatever it is in your native layout) as 13th key and, say, num lock key as last.
(http://i.imgur.com/eLxlWQ9.jpg)
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 06:41:50
That looks great.Thanks that worked out perfectly :D Now i just need to find a nice heavy alu case for it.my enjoypbt set doesnt have keys for split backspace so i dont think i can do split backspace.Use different keys from the same row. Since you're putting Esc as first key, you can use the Pipe/backslash (or whatever it is in your native layout) as 13th key and, say, num lock key as last.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eLxlWQ9.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 31 January 2016, 06:42:36
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 06:45:09
I just got a message from GON keyboard works. That's all ;)Disclose the details already!
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 31 January 2016, 07:34:02
Spent close to 2hrs desoldering all the switches so I could put the plate on. I almost gave up on the first switch, but it got pretty easy after the first couple.
I also put the switch LEDs in this time around, which I skipped before to make the desoldering easier.
(http://imgur.com/SY2lCZE.jpg)
Without the plate, I had some crooked and uneven switches, which kinda drove me nuts. This time, with the help of a plate, they turned out perfect:
(http://imgur.com/1F2RZqO.jpg)
The plate helps a lot with hiding the white PCB. (Here's what it looked like before (http://imgur.com/EAcfaD5.jpg)). With the plate installed, everything looks nice and black, even with the LEDs on:
(http://imgur.com/ojp9QAZ.jpg)
One more for good measure:
(http://imgur.com/MpCdOIC.jpg)
There's a couple more pictures in the album on Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/tjdDH).
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:02:02
I finished my build off last night at about 1am :)
Spent close to 2hrs desoldering all the switches so I could put the plate on. I almost gave up on the first switch, but it got pretty easy after the first couple.
I also put the switch LEDs in this time around, which I skipped before to make the desoldering easier.Show Image(http://imgur.com/SY2lCZE.jpg)
Without the plate, I had some crooked and uneven switches, which kinda drove me nuts. This time, with the help of a plate, they turned out perfect:Show Image(http://imgur.com/1F2RZqO.jpg)
The plate helps a lot with hiding the white PCB. (Here's what it looked like before (http://imgur.com/EAcfaD5.jpg)). With the plate installed, everything looks nice and black, even with the LEDs on:Show Image(http://imgur.com/ojp9QAZ.jpg)
One more for good measure:Show Image(http://imgur.com/MpCdOIC.jpg)
There's a couple more pictures in the album on Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/tjdDH).
Thanks for the details!
Glad the plate could help your keyboard.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:02:41
(http://i.imgur.com/gl96eaJ.jpg)
OG skidata, Ziptyze case and orange spacebar i found on Deskthority!
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:30:38
Here is my build:Beautiful.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gl96eaJ.jpg)
OG skidata, Ziptyze case and orange spacebar i found on Deskthority!
Post by: sairex on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:32:43
Has anyone had any issues trying to get the keyboard to go into Flash Programming mode? I've tried holding q, shift+Q but nothing seems to work. I can enter bootmapper mode (holding tab) no problem.Holding Q works for the FaceW.
You need to hold down the standard Ctrl key for the B.Face X2. Mind you, the by standard Ctrl I mean the bottom left key, no matter if you remap it.
Thanks TalkingTree. I was only able to enter Flash Programming mode by holding Left-Ctrl + Q. Has anyone else experienced this? Do I have a B.Face X2?
Also, flashing the keymap has made my keypresses not work correctly at all. I've even tried wiping it clean and starting over by mapping each key, but it is still wonky.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:34:50
Black aluminum plate, B.Face X2 PCB, Gateron Black switches, aluminum case from Pexon's store, OG Cherry PBT dyesub italian keycaps (except for enter and pipe).
(http://i.imgur.com/0WOmtMH.jpg)
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:37:52
Do I have a B.Face X2?If you got the PCB from this group buy, yes, you do. If you bought the SPRiT edition from the previous GB, then you have a FaceW.
Regarding your layout issue, you probably made mistakes in your matrix.
I can help you with that, but you might want to figure out on your own.
Post by: sairex on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:47:32
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:53:00
Here is my build:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gl96eaJ.jpg)
OG skidata, Ziptyze case and orange spacebar i found on Deskthority!
Awesome execution!
I'm waiting on the CF-LX Happy Style case to come through before I can build mine up :rolleyes: ;D
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 31 January 2016, 12:59:00
Post by: K.Mak on Sun, 31 January 2016, 13:11:16
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 31 January 2016, 13:14:39
Thanks for this LeandreN, this was my first GB outside of Massdrop and it went smoother than I could have hoped.
Awesome, thanks !
Post by: crashkaboom on Sun, 31 January 2016, 20:01:56
I set my Dremel up with the height adjustable "Multi Purpose Cutting Kit" (#565 (https://www.dremel.com/en-us/Tools/Pages/ToolDetail.aspx?pid=565#.Vq64djYrIUE), good for half-assed routing) and a high speed cutter (#196 (https://www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=196)). I laid some small pieces of stainless sheet metal across the case to support the Dremel, but you could probably use two Bic pens if you were so inclined. At this point it's just a matter of being patient and letting the bit do the work - push too hard and it bites and goes for a ride.
A note: the 196 bit, like most Dremel bits is
Sorry, I don't have more photos of the process but it was more improv than executing an actual plan.
(http://i.imgur.com/l5C2Fgn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/I2YqaiF.jpg)
A terrible photo of the finished product (http://i.imgur.com/kDH18JN.jpg) (lubed 65g purple Zealios, aluminum LeandreN (JD) plate, gun-metal Tex (lipless), and the ever-so-common Carbon SA keycaps.
Post by: assumed_bivalve on Mon, 01 February 2016, 10:25:07
I figure the East Coast blizzard in the US may have delayed the post office pretty significantly... also I had it shipped to work and they tend to hold onto things for a few days.
I'm not worried or anything. It's fine. Right? Right.
Post by: Numpy on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:20:26
Anybody else still waiting for theirs?I'm still waiting on mine but I live in Australia.
I figure the East Coast blizzard in the US may have delayed the post office pretty significantly... also I had it shipped to work and they tend to hold onto things for a few days.
I'm not worried or anything. It's fine. Right? Right.
I hope you get your stuff soon!
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 01 February 2016, 16:14:49
I'm not sure if this is helpful for anyone else, but I decided to go with a Tex case for my build and was faced with the fitment issues other members have mentioned. The fix was fairly simple so I figured I'd share it. I cut a piece of scrap paper so that that it fit fairly well inside the Tex case. Line the scrap paper up on the bottom of the PCB and rub a crayon or something over it to reveal the high spots (RGB LEDs). Use a hole puncher on each one of the marks so that you end up with a template to make the trouble zones on the ribs of the case (see images: http://imgur.com/a/T3QBH (http://imgur.com/a/T3QBH)).
I set my Dremel up with the height adjustable "Multi Purpose Cutting Kit" (#565 (https://www.dremel.com/en-us/Tools/Pages/ToolDetail.aspx?pid=565#.Vq64djYrIUE), good for half-assed routing) and a high speed cutter (#196 (https://www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=196)). I laid some small pieces of stainless sheet metal across the case to support the Dremel, but you could probably use two Bic pens if you were so inclined. At this point it's just a matter of being patient and letting the bit do the work - push too hard and it bites and goes for a ride.
A note: the 196 bit, like most Dremel bits istrashfor light duty work... but then again, Dremels aren't really milling tools are they? The outcome was less than perfect, but I feel the results were much nicer than if I had attacked it with a sanding barrel.
Sorry, I don't have more photos of the process but it was more improv than executing an actual plan.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/l5C2Fgn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I2YqaiF.jpg)
A terrible photo of the finished product (http://i.imgur.com/kDH18JN.jpg) (lubed 65g purple Zealios, aluminum LeandreN (JD) plate, gun-metal Tex (lipless), and the ever-so-common Carbon SA keycaps.
I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate your walk through :thumb:
Just one question, sorry if it's dumb: Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the RGB leds?
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 01 February 2016, 16:26:50
I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate your walk through :thumb:
Just one question, sorry if it's dumb: Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the RGB leds?
You would have to be able to desolder all 4 pins at once, which usually requires a special soldering tweezers. You could do it with 2 soldering irons, or just one if you are really quick...
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 01 February 2016, 16:58:38
Post by: crashkaboom on Tue, 02 February 2016, 10:25:43
Just one question, sorry if it's dumb: Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the RGB leds?
It was an option I considered. I don't have a need for backlighting so much, but I wanted to keep the board and its components intact in the event that the build didn't satisfy me and I had to sell it off. This is my first build and I didn't want to run LEDs on the top either, since it would only make desoldering that much worse. The compromise: I'm using Gateron housings (Zealios specifically) and the backlighting peeks through a bit when I'm feeling "saucy" enough to switch it on.
Unrelated to the case issue... is anyone else here that used Zealios in their build struggling with key chatter/bouncing? My board is plagued with false clicks and I'm hesitant to just keep putting new Zealios in there to replace the suspected bads. I'm also disappointed that there's no configurable debounce settings in the firmware (that I know of). I've tried a couple fixes I've found mentioned on GH, but nothing has cured the issues at this point.
Post by: cjhard on Tue, 02 February 2016, 10:32:11
I fixed mine by pulling the switch tops off the ones that are causing problems, and then swapping the purple plunger with a different Zealio, and then testing to see if it was still causing issues. If after 3 or 4 unsuccessful plunger swaps, I then will pull the thicker metal leaf closer towards the plunger just slightly, test, and repeat until it no longer causes the problem.
Post by: crashkaboom on Tue, 02 February 2016, 11:22:55
It's not really a problem that can be solved by debounce, as it's not a bouncing problem.
I fixed mine by pulling the switch tops off the ones that are causing problems, and then swapping the purple plunger with a different Zealio, and then testing to see if it was still causing issues. If after 3 or 4 unsuccessful plunger swaps, I then will pull the thicker metal leaf closer towards the plunger just slightly, test, and repeat until it no longer causes the problem.
I see. I attempted cleaning the contacts, and gently pulling the thicker leaf like you mentioned, but I haven't tried swapping new stems. I appreciate the feedback and I'm going to try swapping some stems tonight. Thanks.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 02 February 2016, 12:37:24
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 02 February 2016, 12:38:44
Just one question, sorry if it's dumb: Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the RGB leds?
It was an option I considered. I don't have a need for backlighting so much, but I wanted to keep the board and its components intact in the event that the build didn't satisfy me and I had to sell it off. This is my first build and I didn't want to run LEDs on the top either, since it would only make desoldering that much worse. The compromise: I'm using Gateron housings (Zealios specifically) and the backlighting peeks through a bit when I'm feeling "saucy" enough to switch it on.
Unrelated to the case issue... is anyone else here that used Zealios in their build struggling with key chatter/bouncing? My board is plagued with false clicks and I'm hesitant to just keep putting new Zealios in there to replace the suspected bads. I'm also disappointed that there's no configurable debounce settings in the firmware (that I know of). I've tried a couple fixes I've found mentioned on GH, but nothing has cured the issues at this point.
I soldered all my Zealios in last night. I tested all the switches briefly without keycaps installed and did not notice any chattering issues. Hope you'll be able to resolve all your chattering issues.
Post by: Numpy on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:02:18
How did everyone acquire/make their wire?
Will post pictures later of stuff probably after I've completed my keyboard.
Post by: Vimto on Tue, 02 February 2016, 23:45:00
Post by: Numpy on Wed, 03 February 2016, 00:47:12
The space bar wire came with mine.:( I'll have to PM LeandreN unless someone has a good idea of how to get one.
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:19:16
Just one question, sorry if it's dumb: Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the RGB leds?
It was an option I considered. I don't have a need for backlighting so much, but I wanted to keep the board and its components intact in the event that the build didn't satisfy me and I had to sell it off. This is my first build and I didn't want to run LEDs on the top either, since it would only make desoldering that much worse. The compromise: I'm using Gateron housings (Zealios specifically) and the backlighting peeks through a bit when I'm feeling "saucy" enough to switch it on.
Unrelated to the case issue... is anyone else here that used Zealios in their build struggling with key chatter/bouncing? My board is plagued with false clicks and I'm hesitant to just keep putting new Zealios in there to replace the suspected bads. I'm also disappointed that there's no configurable debounce settings in the firmware (that I know of). I've tried a couple fixes I've found mentioned on GH, but nothing has cured the issues at this point.
I soldered all my Zealios in last night. I tested all the switches briefly without keycaps installed and did not notice any chattering issues. Hope you'll be able to resolve all your chattering issues.
I have soldered, desoldered, and resoldered my zealio twice. 50% of the switches were not registered on switch hitter. While I almost certain I did the solder properly, i don't know if my zealio switch is broken or not.
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 03 February 2016, 23:36:58
Hey, can you mail leandre.north@gmail.com ? I can get it out tomorrow. Im drowning in Geekhack PMsThe space bar wire came with mine.:( I'll have to PM LeandreN unless someone has a good idea of how to get one.
Post by: Numpy on Thu, 04 February 2016, 03:46:21
Ahh, sorry to hear.Hey, can you mail leandre.north@gmail.com ? I can get it out tomorrow. Im drowning in Geekhack PMsThe space bar wire came with mine.:( I'll have to PM LeandreN unless someone has a good idea of how to get one.
I've sent an email.
Post by: crashkaboom on Thu, 04 February 2016, 13:47:49
I soldered all my Zealios in last night. I tested all the switches briefly without keycaps installed and did not notice any chattering issues. Hope you'll be able to resolve all your chattering issues.
On a sidenote, did you lube yours? I'm starting to wonder if this is a case of piss-poor lubing technique on my part.
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:31:18
I soldered all my Zealios in last night. I tested all the switches briefly without keycaps installed and did not notice any chattering issues. Hope you'll be able to resolve all your chattering issues.
On a sidenote, did you lube yours? I'm starting to wonder if this is a case of piss-poor lubing technique on my part.
No, I did not lube mine. I used them "as is" straight out of the bag Zeal sent them in.
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:32:12
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:43:48
(http://i.imgur.com/T9xJ6xn.jpg)
Ziptyze Case
Tier-3 PCB
Silver Alu Plate
67g tactile Zealios (love the feel)
Vortex(?) ISO PBT Blanks (from leandren =) ).
Post by: bloodl1n3 on Fri, 12 February 2016, 18:02:48
I plugged in the keyboard and did the key combination to turn the LEDs on and 4 of them aren't turning on. If it matters, I'm on a mac and I haven't flashed the firmware or anything on the board.
Any ideas what could be wrong?
(http://i.imgur.com/Z9a6Wr5.jpg)
Post by: f1xedgear on Fri, 12 February 2016, 19:16:44
I finally got around to soldering my keyboard together, but am having some trouble :(You forgot to tell it that there are 16 LEDs on the board. It only uses 12 by default unless you update the settings with the BootMapperClient app
I plugged in the keyboard and did the key combination to turn the LEDs on and 4 of them aren't turning on. If it matters, I'm on a mac and I haven't flashed the firmware or anything on the board.
Any ideas what could be wrong?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z9a6Wr5.jpg)
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 29 February 2016, 13:54:31
Any help would be appreciated. This is how I currently have it, and there is no power to the leds. And yes, I am aware that the second pad of the resistor is not soldered. I want to make sure I have it in the correct spot before I do it, since I don't have a hot air station to change it.
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Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 29 February 2016, 13:59:26
Quick question to anyone with a B. Face X2. I am trying to get the key mounted leds working on the esc, tab, and caps lock keys. They have the option to have an indicator led, but I just want them lit up like the rest of the board. How does everyone here have theirs set up? After going through the soldering instructions on the winkeyless sight, I am assuming that the 330 ohm resistors need to be replaced with the resistors I am using for the rest of the board (8200 for pink leds), and put in the upper position to pull power from the main.
Any help would be appreciated. This is how I currently have it, and there is no power to the leds. And yes, I am aware that the second pad of the resistor is not soldered. I want to make sure I have it in the correct spot before I do it, since I don't have a hot air station to change it.
Read the Soldering Guide (http://winkeyless.kr/soldering-guide/), specifically the section called "Resistors to make Scroll Lock and Num Lock LED as Full LED". You do not need a hot air rework station to do these. They can be easily changed with just a soldering pencil.
Post by: Badwrench on Mon, 29 February 2016, 14:07:06
Quick question to anyone with a B. Face X2. I am trying to get the key mounted leds working on the esc, tab, and caps lock keys. They have the option to have an indicator led, but I just want them lit up like the rest of the board. How does everyone here have theirs set up? After going through the soldering instructions on the winkeyless sight, I am assuming that the 330 ohm resistors need to be replaced with the resistors I am using for the rest of the board (8200 for pink leds), and put in the upper position to pull power from the main.
Any help would be appreciated. This is how I currently have it, and there is no power to the leds. And yes, I am aware that the second pad of the resistor is not soldered. I want to make sure I have it in the correct spot before I do it, since I don't have a hot air station to change it.
Read the Soldering Guide (http://winkeyless.kr/soldering-guide/), specifically the section called "Resistors to make Scroll Lock and Num Lock LED as Full LED". You do not need a hot air rework station to do these. They can be easily changed with just a soldering pencil.
Ok, I got it working. Just took another re-read of the section to make sure. Thanks.
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 12 March 2016, 17:02:01
Is there any place I can get two 7u spacebar wires where shipping won't cost me an arm and a leg?
Thanks ;D
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 12 March 2016, 17:07:26
Is there any place I can get two 7u spacebar wires?You can bend your own wire with pliers. Just buy a roll of harmonic steel wire as thick as the 6.25.
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 12 March 2016, 17:14:39
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll do that.Is there any place I can get two 7u spacebar wires?You can bend your own wire with pliers. Just buy a roll of harmonic steel wire as thick as the 6.25.
Post by: toidbb on Sat, 12 March 2016, 18:21:23
Is there any place I can get two 7u spacebar wires?You can bend your own wire with pliers. Just buy a roll of harmonic steel wire as thick as the 6.25.
Where can I source harmonic wire from?
Thanks in advance, as a quick google check seemed to return only Italian sources.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 12 March 2016, 18:39:50
Where can I source harmonic wire from?Any hardware store. It should work even if it's not harmonic.
Post by: Numpy on Sat, 12 March 2016, 22:10:26
Enharmonic? ;)Where can I source harmonic wire from?Any hardware store. It should work even if it's not harmonic.
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 26 March 2016, 04:14:48
(http://i.imgur.com/tNng0Rn.jpg)
:-*
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 26 March 2016, 04:37:34
Better late than never...That looks great.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tNng0Rn.jpg)
:-*
Post by: Numpy on Sat, 26 March 2016, 23:45:54
Damn dude, stuff "great"Better late than never...That looks great.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tNng0Rn.jpg)
:-*
that thing's beautiful!
Post by: assumed_bivalve on Tue, 12 April 2016, 20:47:54
The board feels fantastic and is extremely solid. But it also looks better than I expected!
(http://i.imgur.com/2THyIs7.jpg)
I think my HHKB has finally been dethroned as my favorite keyboard!
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 April 2016, 20:52:37
Sorry to resurrect such an old thread. I just got my 78g Zealios last week, and finally built my board on Sunday! First build but everything worked out in the end.
The board feels fantastic and is extremely solid. But it also looks better than I expected!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2THyIs7.jpg)
I think my HHKB has finally been dethroned as my favorite keyboard!
It looks really awesome, congratulations, you may want to make a short review on 78 Zealios used along with DSA keycaps, particularly interesting would be the fact if the stems wobble or get stocked.
Post by: assumed_bivalve on Tue, 12 April 2016, 21:33:10
I originally had thick PBT keys on it and assumed I would like them better, but I notice the tactile bump more with these SA caps. I do think there is a bit more wobble, but I don't mind it.
I definitely haven't had any problems with keys catching or getting stuck.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 22 May 2016, 08:06:49
(click to enlarge)
(http://i.imgur.com/r1Fmb1S.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/V5ojXQH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/iRMWgnI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Fjz7Ryb.jpg)
- PCB: Winkeyless.kr B.face X2
- Plate: Universal 60% - designed by jdcarpe - provided by LeandreN
- Case: 60% plastic case, bought on Aliexpress
- Switches: Gateron MX compatible Blue
- Keycaps: among the many: GMK Esc packs (some keys are doubled); Electric Bluegaloo bottom row; OG Skidata Numpad, Caps lock, F/J; LeandreN custom right shift, made by SP.
- LEDs: 2x3x4 blue LED for Num lock (Esc key), 2x3x4 red LED for Caps lock (Caps lock key)
Post by: eddible on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:38:21
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:39:42
Received my PCB today, thanks! Works perfectly, just waiting on my switches. Feels cruel having everything but the switches!!You meant to post this in the r3 thread? Haha
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:40:37
Assembled my B.face today.Great build, love the shift key ;)
(click to enlarge)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/r1Fmb1S.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V5ojXQH.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iRMWgnI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Fjz7Ryb.jpg)
- PCB: Winkeyless.kr B.face X2
- Plate: Universal 60% - designed by jdcarpe - provided by LeandreN
- Case: 60% plastic case, bought on Aliexpress
- Switches: Gateron MX compatible Blue
- Keycaps: among the many: GMK Esc packs (some keys are doubled); Electric Bluegaloo bottom row; OG Skidata Numpad, Caps lock, F/J; LeandreN custom right shift, made by SP.
- LEDs: 2x3x4 blue LED for Num lock (Esc key), 2x3x4 red LED for Caps lock (Caps lock key)
Post by: eddible on Mon, 23 May 2016, 07:42:15
Haha! Oops, you're right. Wrong thread!Received my PCB today, thanks! Works perfectly, just waiting on my switches. Feels cruel having everything but the switches!!You meant to post this in the r3 thread? Haha