[GB][FINISHED] Plates, PCBs and stabilisers - LeandreN Round 3

[p3lim]

Is there any information about the supplied firmware and bootloader?

[tDr1v3r]

Mine arrived too in Tuesday! I can't express how happy I am seeing the quality of the PCB... it's really good.

[chancellorr]

Is there any information about the supplied firmware and bootloader?

http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183

[f1xedgear]

Is there any information about the supplied firmware and bootloader?

Not sure if this helps, but the source for the firmware is on GitHub here. I think the bootloader is the default one that comes with the atmega32 microcontroller.

[LeandreN]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0

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Or you can follow this guide.

[f1xedgear]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0

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Or you can follow this guide.

Note that the B.face runs ps2avrGB, while the FaceW in those examples runs ps2avrU. The guide should be the same for both other than you need to remember to flash the right firmware

[p3lim]

Right, I was thinking of flashing TMK on mine, but I have to drill new holes on the PCB first (didn't support my flipped off-center-stem spacebar ).
As soon as I've done that I could go about figuring the pinouts for each row/column and do some tests.

[f1xedgear]

Right, I was thinking of flashing TMK on mine, but I have to drill new holes on the PCB first (didn't support my flipped off-center-stem spacebar ).
As soon as I've done that I could go about figuring the pinouts for each row/column and do some tests.

Were you going to replace the microcontroller? The B.face/FaceW boards do not support TMK because of they lack hardware USB and the USB stack used by ps2avrGB is not supported by TMK.

Edit: Regarding the spacebar stem, maybe it would be easier to graft a new stem onto the spacebar from a key you dont mind destroying?

[p3lim]

Were you going to replace the microcontroller? The B.face/FaceW boards do not support TMK because of they lack hardware USB and the USB stack used by ps2avrGB is not supported by TMK.

That makes it a bit more challenging, I thought it was using the U4.

Edit: Regarding the spacebar stem, maybe it would be easier to graft a new stem onto the spacebar from a key you dont mind destroying?

Drilling three holes and jumpwiring it to the pins next to it is a better long-term solution IMO.

[f1xedgear]

Were you going to replace the microcontroller? The B.face/FaceW boards do not support TMK because of they lack hardware USB and the USB stack used by ps2avrGB is not supported by TMK.

That makes it a bit more challenging, I thought it was using the U4.

Edit: Regarding the spacebar stem, maybe it would be easier to graft a new stem onto the spacebar from a key you dont mind destroying?

Drilling three holes and jumpwiring it to the pins next to it is a better long-term solution IMO.

Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.

Edit: remove dangling half-though-out sentence that wasnt supposed to be there

[p3lim]

Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.

Since you can mount the switches to the plate

I'll have to cut the MISO trace (which I have no use for myself anyways), as it's pretty much directly where the top pin would be.
Kind of considering selling the kit instead, should've done more research beforehand.

[LeandreN]

Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.

Since you can mount the switches to the plate

I'll have to cut the MISO trace (which I have no use for myself anyways), as it's pretty much directly where the top pin would be.
Kind of considering selling the kit instead, should've done more research beforehand.

Well, if you do that, there is definitely people around that is willing to pick it up.

[p3lim]

Just be extremely sure that there are no traces where you drill AFAIK, the PCB is just 2 layers, so you should be able to see all traces since they run on the outside where they are visible.

Since you can mount the switches to the plate

I'll have to cut the MISO trace (which I have no use for myself anyways), as it's pretty much directly where the top pin would be.
Kind of considering selling the kit instead, should've done more research beforehand.

Well, if you do that, there is definitely people around that is willing to pick it up.

No doubt

[techmattr]

Got my order today. Thanks LeandreN! Great job! 

[LeandreN]

Got my order today. Thanks LeandreN! Great job! 

Hopefully you have enough stabilisers for a lifetime

[flob_ert]

I am still waiting on keycaps, but I couldn't  resist the urge to build...

[LeandreN]

I am still waiting on keycaps, but I couldn't  resist the urge to build...

(Attachment Link)

wooo!

That looks really nice.

Is that the Vortex CNC case?

[flob_ert]

I am still waiting on keycaps, but I couldn't  resist the urge to build...

(Attachment Link)

wooo!

That looks really nice.

Is that the Vortex CNC case?

Thanks

It is the Vortex case, I got it from pexon during the sales. It needed a little modding for the PCB to fit as the fins blocked some of the controller parts.

[kevral]

It is the Vortex case, I got it from pexon during the sales. It needed a little modding for the PCB to fit as the fins blocked some of the controller parts.

Oh joy, I was planning on using that exact case and wasn't prepared to dremel it...

Which plate is that? Steel or grey aluminium? End product looks good

[flob_ert]

It is the Vortex case, I got it from pexon during the sales. It needed a little modding for the PCB to fit as the fins blocked some of the controller parts.

Oh joy, I was planning on using that exact case and wasn't prepared to dremel it...

Which plate is that? Steel or grey aluminium? End product looks good

Thank you. I wouldn't worry about it, using a Dremel it only took a couple of minutes to grind down the fins. I ordered the steel plate in the GB but used a grey plate (also bought from LeandreN) for this build.

I would love to see some pictures when you finish your build 

[bloodl1n3]

I received my package this weekend and the plate looks awesome! This is the first build I've done and have a couple questions

I bought some zealios when he had his sale a few weeks ago and it looks like the two plastic pieces on the switches are preventing the metal contacts to go all the way through the PCB. Do I need to clip those off first?

I also wanted some LEDs for my switches and wanted to know if there were any recommendations for the Winkeyless PCB. If I could get them on Amazon, that would be great.

One last question - is there a guide or YouTube video of someone assembling everything? I'd like to follow along with someone elses build to make sure I don't mess anything up!

[Numpy]

I received my package this weekend and the plate looks awesome! This is the first build I've done and have a couple questions

I bought some zealios when he had his sale a few weeks ago and it looks like the two plastic pieces on the switches are preventing the metal contacts to go all the way through the PCB. Do I need to clip those off first?

I also wanted some LEDs for my switches and wanted to know if there were any recommendations for the Winkeyless PCB. If I could get them on Amazon, that would be great.

One last question - is there a guide or YouTube video of someone assembling everything? I'd like to follow along with someone elses build to make sure I don't mess anything up!

Here's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdLAdci6p-w a super useful video that I'm going to use to build my keyboard.

Hope it helps! 

[f1xedgear]

I received my package this weekend and the plate looks awesome! This is the first build I've done and have a couple questions

I bought some zealios when he had his sale a few weeks ago and it looks like the two plastic pieces on the switches are preventing the metal contacts to go all the way through the PCB. Do I need to clip those off first?

I also wanted some LEDs for my switches and wanted to know if there were any recommendations for the Winkeyless PCB. If I could get them on Amazon, that would be great.

One last question - is there a guide or YouTube video of someone assembling everything? I'd like to follow along with someone elses build to make sure I don't mess anything up!

You don't need to clip anything, the two plastic pins on PCB mount switches are supposed to go into the corresponding holes on the PCB. They are supposed to have an interference fit, and sometimes feel like they actually "snap" into place once you get them seated all the way (at least mine did).

I think pretty much any 3mm LED will work.

LeandreN made this video of a B.face build a short time ago, which should help.

[nmur]

got my stuff!

build is imminent

[Jumie]

When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I'm using default layer and function?

[LeandreN]

got my stuff!

build is imminent

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Wow, this is going to be a beautiful build. Thanks for posting and have fun!

[nmur]

got my stuff!

build is imminent

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Wow, this is going to be a beautiful build. Thanks for posting and have fun!

thank you!

I'll make sure to post back here when I'm done

[TalkingTree]

I received my package a few minutes ago. I'll post some pictures as soon as I've assembled my board.
Thank you LeandreN.

[Numpy]

got my stuff!

build is imminent

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Wow, you're going to pull off a professional looking white board super well.
If you don't mind me asking, what's the blue sheet of paper for?

[nmur]

got my stuff!

build is imminent

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Wow, you're going to pull off a professional looking white board super well.
If you don't mind me asking, what's the blue sheet of paper for?

thanks dude

those are switch stickers. they're meant to reduce wobbling between the bottom and top half of the switch housing, but the difference is minimal, if noticeable at all. it's more for aesthetics.

[Numpy]

got my stuff!

build is imminent

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Wow, you're going to pull off a professional looking white board super well.
If you don't mind me asking, what's the blue sheet of paper for?

thanks dude

those are switch stickers. they're meant to reduce wobbling between the bottom and top half of the switch housing, but the difference is minimal, if noticeable at all. it's more for aesthetics.

Oh right, thanks for your opinion on them or I would have felt obliged to go out and get some  :))

[Jumie]

When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?

sorry for bumping.. anyone can advise?

[TalkingTree]

When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?

Most PCBs come with a preloaded firmware. Just plug it in and see what keys register. You might want to flash your firmware anyway. It's very easy with the GUI software.

[LeandreN]

When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?

Most PCBs come with a preloaded firmware. Just plug it in and see what keys register. You might want to flash your firmware anyway. It's very easy with the GUI software.

It will come pre flashed. Also left alt and left CTRL won't work, you need to reassign them from Korean letters.

[Jumie]

When I finish this build later, do I still need to flash firmware even though I will be using default layer and function?

Most PCBs come with a preloaded firmware. Just plug it in and see what keys register. You might want to flash your firmware anyway. It's very easy with the GUI software.

It will come pre flashed. Also left alt and left CTRL won't work, you need to reassign them from Korean letters.

nice, thanks

[TalkingTree]

Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.

[chancellorr]

Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?

[braidn]

Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.

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Pretty much what I am building but without the 1u's (winkeyless)

[chancellorr]

Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.

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Pretty much what I am building but without the 1u's (winkeyless)

Same here.

[LeandreN]

Selling stuff!

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/41jebq/eunoh_bface_x2_pcbs_and_carbon_fibre_plate_w_sepa/

[LeandreN]

Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.

Show Image

Tuberous picture of my ongoing project. Switches aren't soldered in yet.
Some layout details anyway:
1. ANSI enter;
2. Two 1u keys in place of a 2u backspace;
3. ISO left shift;
4. Short right shift;
5. 7u Spacebar with 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u modifiers;
6. Stepped caps lock (which is going to be Ctrl);
7. Two stabilizers only.

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This is a cool layout. Eliminating stabilisers, i see.

[TalkingTree]

Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?

Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.

[TalkingTree]

This is a cool layout. Eliminating stabilisers, i see.

Indeed, on the other board I might probably go for 2.25u right shift because it's easier for keycaps.

[chancellorr]

Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?

Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.

Awesome! Thank you.

[f1xedgear]

Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?

Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.

Awesome! Thank you.

Wow, might take a while for stuff to reach Michigan then...

[LeandreN]

Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?

Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.

Awesome! Thank you.

Wow, might take a while for stuff to reach Michigan then...

Shipping to USA is often faster than some European countries.

[chancellorr]

Just curious, how long did it take for you to receive your packages once they shipped?

Twelve days including shipping and delivery days. Pretty much the same timespan on everything I got from LeandreN.

Awesome! Thank you.

Wow, might take a while for stuff to reach Michigan then...

Shipping to USA is often faster than some European countries.

Even better. Thanks again LeandreN

[Sisric]

Got mine! Thanks LeandreN! Now I need to figure out how to build the bloody thing...

[LeandreN]

Got mine! Thanks LeandreN! Now I need to figure out how to build the bloody thing...

Use on of my builds as a refrence

[LeandreN]