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Offline DashanYYY

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Hi everyone, this is Dashan from Unikeys. Today I am bringing to you the interest check of another HMX linear switch. It all started with the Hyacinth V2 switches which helped HMX earn its seat at the switch manufacturer table. People start to notice that even though they are a pretty "young" factory, they can create high-quality switches that come at a fair price point. Most of you know the story after that; HMX kept pushing out interesting options such as the Macchiato and Macaron switches which come with great value. Yes, HMX switches are great. They have smooth travel, minimum stem wobble, great sound, and a typing feel. However, HMX is actively looking for ways to differentiate its product line and to make each switch unique on its own to prevent the issue of having too many re-color switches. I think they did a great job on the Cloud switch regarding that aspect. 



Price

Price: 0.35 USD per switch

Switch Specifications

Switch type: Linear
Designer: XL
Manufacturer: HMX
Stem material: LY
Top Housings: PA12
Bottom Housing: PA 2.0
Operating Force: 42±5g
Bottom-out Force:  50±5g
Pre-travel: 2.0mm
Total Travel: 4.0±0.3mm
Spring: 22mm Single-Stage extended spring
Factory Lubed: Yes! on spring, stem feet, and stem sliders

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The HMX Cloud Switch


The Cloud switch is one of the earliest HMX switches that use the LY material. Previous HMX linear switches all came with pretty standard POM, PC, or Nylon materials. Although the LY material is no longer rare in the market nowadays, a decent LY formula does bring the best out of a switch in my opinion.

Design:
HMX's previous molds have a huge advantage which is also a disadvantage sometimes. That is they have a very tight stem-housing compatibility. The housing and the stem mold very precisely to produce a minimum stem wobble and create a super smooth travel in the meantime. However, such a design comes with an issue for previous HMX switches which was that a tight housing creates a syringe effect; It means that sometimes key presses feel like pushing in a syringe. This was caused by having less space between the stem and the housing slides. This wasn't a huge issue for switches that have a short travel but become quite obvious for switches that have a longer travel. Since the Cloud switches were aiming for a 4.0mm travel distance, this syringe effect issue must be resolved. HMX adjusted its mold design prior to the production and left a bit more space between the stem and the housing. After the adjustment, the syringe effect was no longer an issue, and they were able to keep the stem wobble at the minimum level as usual.

Another design tweak to be noticed is that although the spec sheet says the Cloud switches have a 4.0mm full travel distance, but it is more like 3.9mm in real life. This is mainly because they are stem pole bottoming out, and the extended stem tip shortens the travel a little bit.

Materials:
I still remember the day I wrote the BSUN X switches' IC post; I said that the LY material at the time was still not very common among switches and that only a few options came with this choice. It has only been a few months since then, and now we see every manufacturer pushing out switches using the LY material. I personally have no problem with that at all since I love LY stems very much. One of the reasons is that LY is a mix of both POM and UPE (specific formula depends on each manufacturer's design), and that balances out the smoothness and hardness of the stem. An LY stem basically takes both POM and UPE's merits and eliminates their defects at the same time. After trying out the Cloud switches, I have to say HMX's LY material formula is as good as BSUN and JWK's. However, I do notice that it is possible HMX added less UPE to it since the bottom-out still sounds quite clacky. Another good thing about this is that we don't need to worry about the LY shrinkage issue that appeared on the JWK SOTC switches.

Regarding the top and bottom housing materials, I have to say HMX has more PA variants than any factory that exists on this planet. Please allow me to reiterate this for you:

From most clacky to less clacky: PA2.0-PA12-PA1-PA66
Smoothness: They are all very smooth. PA2.0 is a bit smoother than the rest since they added PTFE to it to increase smoothness and friction resistance.

Really, the PA variants only differ in their sound profile mostly. You can see that the Cloud switch is using PA12 as its top housing and PA2.0 as its bottom housing. This means they will sound clacky instead of thocky. However, thanks to the LY stem, they are not going to sound as loud and thocky as the Hyacinth V2 I can assure you that. The bottom-out sound created by LY and PA12 is very pleasant and concentrated.

Overall, it is very obvious HMX is making an effort to have their new switches made different from the existing ones. The changes in mold design and material choices can prove that. Based on my personal experience, I can also they that they sound and feel different from the previous HMX switches we carry. The Cloud switches are very balanced in sound and feel. However, for those who are waiting for a thocky HMX switch, you might need to wait a bit longer.



Form of Sales
Instock at Unikeys:https://unikeyboards.com/products/hmx-cloud-linear-switch-factory-lubed-edition-10pcs


Time of Sales
October 27th at 8:30PM ET

Vendor List
Global: Unikeys https://unikeyboards.com/



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« Last Edit: Tue, 31 October 2023, 14:44:04 by DashanYYY »

Offline ChrisSwires

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Fantastic detail in the post, colour me intrigued.

Offline DashanYYY

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Fantastic detail in the post, colour me intrigued.

Thank you so much! They look very nice in person as well

Offline DashanYYY

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Instock drop time is set to be at 8:30 PM ET today. The drop time is moved up because we received the switches early.

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Think I'll grab 100 of these to give them shot, specs sound really nice & the price is more than reasonable! Sans any tolerance issues these should be very nice linears! :thumb:

Offline DashanYYY

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Think I'll grab 100 of these to give them shot, specs sound really nice & the price is more than reasonable! Sans any tolerance issues these should be very nice linears! :thumb:

HMX can be trustd :thumb:

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Think I'll grab 100 of these to give them shot, specs sound really nice & the price is more than reasonable! Sans any tolerance issues these should be very nice linears! :thumb:

HMX can be trustd :thumb:

Ordered them last night will report back once I get them! ;)

Offline b21

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Think I'll grab 100 of these to give them shot, specs sound really nice & the price is more than reasonable! Sans any tolerance issues these should be very nice linears! :thumb:

HMX can be trustd :thumb:

Hi Dashan,

I love reading your synopsis on these switches. It seems you have spent a lot of time with HMX switches. I currently use Owlab Neon so I'm wondering if these are different in terms of clackiness. I'm looking to get me clackier switches than these Neons.

Offline DashanYYY

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Think I'll grab 100 of these to give them shot, specs sound really nice & the price is more than reasonable! Sans any tolerance issues these should be very nice linears! :thumb:

HMX can be trustd :thumb:

Hi Dashan,

I love reading your synopsis on these switches. It seems you have spent a lot of time with HMX switches. I currently use Owlab Neon so I'm wondering if these are different in terms of clackiness. I'm looking to get me clackier switches than these Neons.

Thank you! I think Clouds are at the same level as neons in regards to clack. Hyacinth V2 and Cheese are more clacky than neons imo

Offline b21

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Think I'll grab 100 of these to give them shot, specs sound really nice & the price is more than reasonable! Sans any tolerance issues these should be very nice linears! :thumb:

HMX can be trustd :thumb:

Hi Dashan,

I love reading your synopsis on these switches. It seems you have spent a lot of time with HMX switches. I currently use Owlab Neon so I'm wondering if these are different in terms of clackiness. I'm looking to get me clackier switches than these Neons.

Thank you! I think Clouds are at the same level as neons in regards to clack. Hyacinth V2 and Cheese are more clacky than neons imo

Thanks. I believe you but I also asked this question on Unikeys discord. A couple of users suggested Neon is clackier than any offering from HMX. I'm leaning towards your opinion though :)

Offline DashanYYY

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Think I'll grab 100 of these to give them shot, specs sound really nice & the price is more than reasonable! Sans any tolerance issues these should be very nice linears! :thumb:

HMX can be trustd :thumb:

Hi Dashan,

I love reading your synopsis on these switches. It seems you have spent a lot of time with HMX switches. I currently use Owlab Neon so I'm wondering if these are different in terms of clackiness. I'm looking to get me clackier switches than these Neons.

Thank you! I think Clouds are at the same level as neons in regards to clack. Hyacinth V2 and Cheese are more clacky than neons imo

Thanks. I believe you but I also asked this question on Unikeys discord. A couple of users suggested Neon is clackier than any offering from HMX. I'm leaning towards your opinion though :)

Nice!! Sound is very subjective though. If more than one of them says that Neons are clackier, I would say their words are more reliable than mine :))