Gaming...

[PadawanGeek]

No, it's a gud' looking case, padawan is just n00ber @ fotos.[/size][/color][/font]

Guilty as charged....

[phinix]

Holy moly... that is one big ugly case - modding time!!! 

No, it's a gud' looking case, padawan is just n00ber @ fotos.

Well, I guess not all keyboard geeks are PC modders 

[TacticalCoder]

Ryzen R9 3900X + GB X570 Aorus Xtreme + 32GB XPG D60G DDR4 3200 RAM + 256GB Sabrent Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 (OS) + 4TB Samsung 860 EVO + 2TB Samsung QVO + 6TB WD Black HDD + PC Vega64 Red Devil (waiting for big RT capable NAVI)+ Corsair HX1000 Platinum + CM MasterCase H500M + 64bit Win10 Pro

Holy smoke now that's a rig: very nice!

[TacticalCoder]

Seriously it's a good time to be into computers with so much capability for the money (new or used).

I agree... The NVMe M.2 SSDs were the first godsend, then now these new Ryzen CPUs. I've got 500 MBit/s symmetric fiber at home and soon 10 GBit/s ethernet at home (with NVMe M.2 SSDs everywhere now and their insane sustained write speed, gigabit ethernet simply doesn't cut it anymore for me). And everything is affordable (500 MBit/s symmetric fiber costs me 50 EUR per month).

[tp4tissue]

Seriously it's a good time to be into computers with so much capability for the money (new or used).

I agree... The NVMe M.2 SSDs were the first godsend, then now these new Ryzen CPUs. I've got 500 MBit/s symmetric fiber at home and soon 10 GBit/s ethernet at home (with NVMe M.2 SSDs everywhere now and their insane sustained write speed, gigabit ethernet simply doesn't cut it anymore for me). And everything is affordable (500 MBit/s symmetric fiber costs me 50 EUR per month).

I've been on Gigabit for years now.   It wasn't as life changing as I thought it would be.

Web services are not that fast.  and the ISPs Throttle anything remotely using hardcore bandwidth.

[Leslieann]

Styling is always subjective, love it or hate it, at least it does a decent job cooling.
Many case manufacturers have taken a severe step backwards while trying to embrace the tempered glass with some flat out stifling all airflow. It amazes me how major, well respected manufacturers can release cases that have such poor performance.

[PadawanGeek]

Well, I guess not all keyboard geeks are PC modders 

I don't feel a need to mod anything, airflow within case is good with 2x 200mm front intake, plus a 140mm exhaust fan, as well as 3x 120mm fans venting heated interior air out at the top. The only reason why I couldn't run 2x Gigabyte VEGA64 Gaming OC was due to the placement of the PCIe X16 slots, my two cards were just millimeters apart causing my primary (top) card to hit thermal threshold.

[noisyturtle]

Styling is always subjective, love it or hate it

good. I hate RGB.

[PadawanGeek]

good. I hate RGB.

Actually, I'm ambivalent when it comes to RGB, but had I had known that RGB entails extra cables, plus the confusion as to where to connect them to sync the RGB effect, I'd have gone without RGB. All those extra RGB cables added to the clutter.....

[Leslieann]

Styling is always subjective, love it or hate it

good. I hate RGB.

Seriously, I don't get the hate for RGB.
I get you may not like the unicorn vomit, but you do realize you can set it to a single color, right? Blue today, red tomorrow... There's even some software that will change it based on system temp, you can brighten or darken it or you can even turn it off. It's kind of silly to hate something you have complete control over.

What I do dislike about RGB though is the lack of standards and worse, the absolutely f'ing insane pricing of some of it. I know what those fans and LEDs cost and people are severely over paying for this stuff.

[Altis]

Seriously, I don't get the hate for RGB.
I get you may not like the unicorn vomit, but you do realize you can set it to a single color, right? Blue today, red tomorrow... There's even some software that will change it based on system temp, you can brighten or darken it or you can even turn it off. It's kind of silly to hate something you have complete control over.

What I do dislike about RGB though is the lack of standards and worse, the absolutely f'ing insane pricing of some of it. I know what those fans and LEDs cost and people are severely over paying for this stuff.

I'm with you... You can even turn RGB off entirely. But it seems preferable to buying a fixed colour. I think it would be handy for some RTS games so that you can group hotkeys by colour.

There's something about vibrant, colourful LED lighting that people seem to like. My car has it all over the interior and I have to say, it adds so much atmosphere and is just pleasurable to have. There's no shortage of people on GH that like to have a nice looking desk setup. 

[noisyturtle]

Styling is always subjective, love it or hate it

good. I hate RGB.

Seriously, I don't get the hate for RGB.
I get you may not like the unicorn vomit, but you do realize you can set it to a single color, right? Blue today, red tomorrow... There's even some software that will change it based on system temp, you can brighten or darken it or you can even turn it off. It's kind of silly to hate something you have complete control over.

What I do dislike about RGB though is the lack of standards and worse, the absolutely f'ing insane pricing of some of it. I know what those fans and LEDs cost and people are severely over paying for this stuff.

I think it's gaudy, attention seeking (can inanimate objects be attention seeking?), and under no circumstances does it improve upon an aesthetic ever. Always detracts and makes the thing look cheap and childish.

[phinix]

Well, I guess not all keyboard geeks are PC modders 

I don't feel a need to mod anything, airflow within case is good with 2x 200mm front intake, plus a 140mm exhaust fan, as well as 3x 120mm fans venting heated interior air out at the top. The only reason why I couldn't run 2x Gigabyte VEGA64 Gaming OC was due to the placement of the PCIe X16 slots, my two cards were just millimeters apart causing my primary (top) card to hit thermal threshold.

It's ok, cooling performance wise its fine. I just said it, as I used to mod every single case I had, not just for cooling, but for visuals.

[PadawanGeek]

It's ok, cooling performance wise its fine. I just said it, as I used to mod every single case I had, not just for cooling, but for visuals.

Ah, I get it now, but for me, IF the case has good airflow, I'd not waste time, effort and money modding it. I tend not to mod my cases, I even have a SOLDAM Windy XR-1 Black Knight stored away in my storeroom somewhere.......I'm not selling it as the company has shut its doors and it's a fine example of Japanese build quality.

[Findecanor]

I find in-case illumination to be backwards.
I have no use for it when the computer is on. I need light when the computer is off and I have opened the case to service it.

Another useful thing would be illumination of the ports on the back of the machine. Why has something like this not been picked up by motherboard or case manufacturers?

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[Leslieann]

I find in-case illumination to be backwards.
I have no use for it when the computer is on. I need light when the computer is off and I have opened the case to service it.

Easy enough to do actually (wall wart), I've even considered stick on battery powered lights in the past. At this point though, none of my systems are larger than a toaster and it's easier to just unplug and toss them up on a desk.

I suspect illuminated rear IO is coming it's about the only place left and they are doing it to video cards. That looks good but at the same time is it really that hard to find a port these days? I guess I've just had to do it so many times I can do it blindfolded at this point.

[noisyturtle]

all this talk about top tier tech... one of the most beautiful things about modern gaming and what developers are putting out there is the sheer variety, depth, and range of titles building upon older technology with modern game mechanics. Games done in an 8/16/32-bit style, but without the limit of space, memory and with the added knowledge of decades of others creating in this art form. I would go so far to say that right now we are living in a Golden Age of video games, and that anyone on the planet can find a game they could love. The sheer amount of content is staggering, even the top experts cannot keep up with the pace of minds across the world creating games in studios and in their own homes. Now that so many different devs have a voice the progression of design, mechanics, and UI have increased at an insane rate. So many new mechanics and game genre variations are created at such a fast rate, the very form has booster rockets on it right now. I'm just excited to see what the next two decades will bring, it's the best time to be a player and developer alike.

[phinix]

all this talk about top tier tech... one of the most beautiful things about modern gaming and what developers are putting out there is the sheer variety, depth, and range of titles building upon older technology with modern game mechanics. Games done in an 8/16/32-bit style, but without the limit of space, memory and with the added knowledge of decades of others creating in this art form. I would go so far to say that right now we are living in a Golden Age of video games, and that anyone on the planet can find a game they could love. The sheer amount of content is staggering, even the top experts cannot keep up with the pace of minds across the world creating games in studios and in their own homes. Now that so many different devs have a voice the progression of design, mechanics, and UI have increased at an insane rate. So many new mechanics and game genre variations are created at such a fast rate, the very form has booster rockets on it right now. I'm just excited to see what the next two decades will bring, it's the best time to be a player and developer alike.

[tp4tissue]

all this talk about top tier tech... one of the most beautiful things about modern gaming and what developers are putting out there is the sheer variety, depth, and range of titles building upon older technology with modern game mechanics. Games done in an 8/16/32-bit style, but without the limit of space, memory and with the added knowledge of decades of others creating in this art form. I would go so far to say that right now we are living in a Golden Age of video games, and that anyone on the planet can find a game they could love. The sheer amount of content is staggering, even the top experts cannot keep up with the pace of minds across the world creating games in studios and in their own homes. Now that so many different devs have a voice the progression of design, mechanics, and UI have increased at an insane rate. So many new mechanics and game genre variations are created at such a fast rate, the very form has booster rockets on it right now. I'm just excited to see what the next two decades will bring, it's the best time to be a player and developer alike.

I agree there's more of everything.

But I don't believe there's been much mechanical changeup since Moba..

Moba is the Epitome of Real Time gaming.

[9999hp]

all this talk about top tier tech... one of the most beautiful things about modern gaming and what developers are putting out there is the sheer variety, depth, and range of titles building upon older technology with modern game mechanics. Games done in an 8/16/32-bit style, but without the limit of space, memory and with the added knowledge of decades of others creating in this art form. I would go so far to say that right now we are living in a Golden Age of video games, and that anyone on the planet can find a game they could love. The sheer amount of content is staggering, even the top experts cannot keep up with the pace of minds across the world creating games in studios and in their own homes. Now that so many different devs have a voice the progression of design, mechanics, and UI have increased at an insane rate. So many new mechanics and game genre variations are created at such a fast rate, the very form has booster rockets on it right now. I'm just excited to see what the next two decades will bring, it's the best time to be a player and developer alike.

Well said, agreed.

[HungerMechanic]

Good point, NoisyTurtle. I would say that a number of developers are taking advantage of the fact that you can build a game with the graphical limitations of the old consoles, but without their memory or processor restraints.

A clear example of this trend is Shovel Knight. The designer called his concept "NES Plus," which means that he designed it to operate with sprites like the NES, with an NES-like palette and scrolling, and NES controls, but obviously with more and larger levels than would have been possible, and the game is widescreen.

He basically asked, "What if the NES had an expansion chip, with more RAM, and an adapter for widescreens?" That's where Shovel Knight comes from. It looks like an NES, and plays like an NES, and sounds like an NES (enhanced), but with more content than would have been possible on an NES cartridge.

Another example of this thinking is "River City Ransom: Unleashed," which is SNES-like. And people have made sophisticated levels and campaigns for Doom that can run on a fast 486, but would have changed the world had they been released back then. For example, "Suspended in Dusk," by Espi. Plus, there are user campaigns for System Shock 2 that are perhaps better-designed than the original game.

A recent example of these "Retro +" games is Ion Maiden / Ion Fury, which is a Duke Nukem 3D-style game in the very same Build engine from the 90s, but pushing its capabilities to the max.

[Leslieann]

all this talk about top tier tech... one of the most beautiful things about modern gaming and what developers are putting out there is the sheer variety, depth, and range of titles building upon older technology with modern game mechanics.

You don't need top tier hardware to run most of it and used stuff is a serious bargain right now.

You can build a decent little gaming rig out of used parts for about $400 using an RX series gpu and older Core I5. Don't think you "need" a Core I9 and 2080 to play games.

[phinix]

Good point, NoisyTurtle. I would say that a number of developers are taking advantage of the fact that you can build a game with the graphical limitations of the old consoles, but without their memory or processor restraints.

A clear example of this trend is Shovel Knight. The designer called his concept "NES Plus," which means that he designed it to operate with sprites like the NES, with an NES-like palette and scrolling, and NES controls, but obviously with more and larger levels than would have been possible, and the game is widescreen.

He basically asked, "What if the NES had an expansion chip, with more RAM, and an adapter for widescreens?" That's where Shovel Knight comes from. It looks like an NES, and plays like an NES, and sounds like an NES (enhanced), but with more content than would have been possible on an NES cartridge.

Another example of this thinking is "River City Ransom: Unleashed," which is SNES-like. And people have made sophisticated levels and campaigns for Doom that can run on a fast 486, but would have changed the world had they been released back then. For example, "Suspended in Dusk," by Espi. Plus, there are user campaigns for System Shock 2 that are perhaps better-designed than the original game.

A recent example of these "Retro +" games is Ion Maiden / Ion Fury, which is a Duke Nukem 3D-style game in the very same Build engine from the 90s, but pushing its capabilities to the max.

I spent hundreds of hours playing Duke Nukem 3D in secondary school times - single player, then after IT classes, with all the guys in multi:)

Ion Fury looks promising, I was watching this project for a while now and may actually buy it:)
Same as Project Warlock, this takes me back...

[tp4tissue]

Don't think you "need" a Core I9 and 2080 to play games.

mmm..... welllll.... maybe not for --casual--

[phinix]

Don't think you "need" a Core I9 and 2080 to play games.

mmm..... welllll.... maybe not for --casual--

casual and in 1080p.

If you want to go wild and play 4k with all details on high, then i5 and 2080 is a minimum.

For example I have i5 7500 and 1080Ti and it runs everything 4K at minimum 40fps, which is fine for me.
I don't really need 100fps...

[SBJ]

Don't think you "need" a Core I9 and 2080 to play games.

mmm..... welllll.... maybe not for --casual--

I have to ask, do you assume everyone on here is some pro gamer?

[Capsmiths]

Don't think you "need" a Core I9 and 2080 to play games.

mmm..... welllll.... maybe not for --casual--

I have to ask, do you assume everyone on here is some pro gamer?

+Twitch streamer

[tp4tissue]

Don't think you "need" a Core I9 and 2080 to play games.

mmm..... welllll.... maybe not for --casual--

I have to ask, do you assume everyone on here is some pro gamer?

++Aspirations++

[phinix]

When Nvidia releases Founders edition cards, do they just go out of stock as they only release like one batch and never re-stock?

I want to buy 2070 Super FE, but cannot find anywhere...