Is "Brown" possible? It's noted in those sample colors after all :)Yea, my bad! I'm gonna update the form now!
Woot! It's live!
If I put my order in now to reserve a founders edition, can I change my options later?
Woot! It's live!
If I put my order in now to reserve a founders edition, can I change my options later?
Sure! :thumb:
Woot! It's live!
If I put my order in now to reserve a founders edition, can I change my options later?
Sure! :thumb:
Great. Because I haven't settled on colors yet.
Also, is white/beige not going to be an option?
Is there a prototype of the purple? Actually super interested in this.
Also how does it work with the non detachable cable. Do we decide on cabling options?
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If we want custom engraving, can we provide a vector file? I assume that if we want custom text, you're generating a vector file anyway.
So it's going to be a grey cable? Also if we're getting the founders edition we're going to be in the raffle for the other colors?Woot! It's live!
If I put my order in now to reserve a founders edition, can I change my options later?
Sure! :thumb:
Great. Because I haven't settled on colors yet.
Also, is white/beige not going to be an option?
No. If we can hit enough order, White/Beige will be for lucky guys in raffle event! :pIs there a prototype of the purple? Actually super interested in this.
Also how does it work with the non detachable cable. Do we decide on cabling options?
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You can see the sample color picture. ;) I will be like that.
Non-detachable cable is the prototype!If we want custom engraving, can we provide a vector file? I assume that if we want custom text, you're generating a vector file anyway.
Yea! I will update the vector file after GB.
Is engraving available only for extra name plates?
Is engraving available only for extra name plates?
Oh. I will add $2 for custom text on name plates in the kit. Just fill the text in the question of custom text. ;D
REMINDER: I'm still working with the factory for the micro-arc oxidation surface treatment option. If we hit enough orders and the results are viable, we will have a small raffle for all GB joiners to opt-in.
For founders, you will all get custom sleeved USB cables, maybe some more customized options (I'm still thinking what to add as extra gifts, maybe more to come later...) and 2 of you will get an E2-V1 numpad:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/By3XD53.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YmQNkrE.jpg)
If we want custom engraving, can we provide a vector file? I assume that if we want custom text, you're generating a vector file anyway.
Just for clarification, is the engraving shown in the picture the default ones? Is that the one we should choose for our own words if we want that font? Or would that be custom? I'm not sure if custom means 'Your own words,' or if it means a new/different font. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. :thumb:
Edit: Jhoang, please forgive me! Jumped to get a founders edition and may have a few changes later, and quite a few engraved add-on's..I hope that's not a problem I just couldn't resist and I need to think of what to have engraved! :'(
I'm thinking on getting the assembly option and want to try the gateron yellow switches. I'm just not sure which spring weight to choose.. I'll use the board mainly for gaming and typing.
Is engraving available only for extra name plates?
Oh. I will add $2 for custom text on name plates in the kit. Just fill the text in the question of custom text. ;D
Already submitted my form earlier, unfortunately--wish there were an option to edit my submission.
Will there be a 60% version of this case?
REMINDER: I'm still working with the factory for the micro-arc oxidation surface treatment option. If we hit enough orders and the results are viable, we will have a small raffle for all GB joiners to opt-in.
For founders, you will all get custom sleeved USB cables, maybe some more customized options (I'm still thinking what to add as extra gifts, maybe more to come later...) and 2 of you will get an E2-V1 numpad:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/By3XD53.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YmQNkrE.jpg)
Hopefully in for founders. Also, will we be able to edit change our order at some point, I was unsure about the engravings.
I hustled to order because I'm at work.
already replied above but yes, you can edit your order now. And the you can customize your engravings however you want
How do we edit our order if we didn't save the end link?
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already replied above but yes, you can edit your order now. And the you can customize your engravings however you want
Maybe it's because I'm on mobile but i cant edit order. Had to rush for a chance at founders. I'll see when I get home!
Is the cable non-detachable?
Should we wait until the end, so we could retain whatever founder spot we have?How do we edit our order if we didn't save the end link?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkalready replied above but yes, you can edit your order now. And the you can customize your engravings however you want
Maybe it's because I'm on mobile but i cant edit order. Had to rush for a chance at founders. I'll see when I get home!
You guys can submit another form. Just fill the note question that you want this submit to be final! :pIs the cable non-detachable?
both Non-detachable and detachable USB cable are supported!
Will you be updating the original post when the Founder Editions are all claimed?
Should we wait until the end, so we could retain whatever founder spot we have?How do we edit our order if we didn't save the end link?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkalready replied above but yes, you can edit your order now. And the you can customize your engravings however you want
Maybe it's because I'm on mobile but i cant edit order. Had to rush for a chance at founders. I'll see when I get home!
You guys can submit another form. Just fill the note question that you want this submit to be final! :pIs the cable non-detachable?
both Non-detachable and detachable USB cable are supported!
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Do you have a better/closer example image of the blue?
Will there be a notification of some sort to the lucky people who got in on a founders edition? :)
Updated my form! Thanks very much jhoang!
Hey there, I joined, a couple questions:
1.) Did I make it in the founders edition?
2.) I ordered 3 custom plates but I'm unsure of the font used - can I update somehow to get a font I would like?
3.) Do you accept first born children in exchange for the numpad XD
SO excited to be receiving this! ;D
Can we get a list of the founders edition winners? Also, where is the PCB from?
Is the PCB software going to be available prior?Can we get a list of the founders edition winners? Also, where is the PCB from?
I will update the list tomorrow. But 50 orders have been placed. :p
PCB made by my team. Made in China. ;)
Is the PCB software going to be available prior?Can we get a list of the founders edition winners? Also, where is the PCB from?
I will update the list tomorrow. But 50 orders have been placed. :p
PCB made by my team. Made in China. ;)
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Is the PCB software going to be available prior?Can we get a list of the founders edition winners? Also, where is the PCB from?
I will update the list tomorrow. But 50 orders have been placed. :p
PCB made by my team. Made in China. ;)
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Yes, You can use BootMapperClient. Easy and friendly.
Hey there, I joined, a couple questions:
1.) Did I make it in the founders edition?
2.) I ordered 3 custom plates but I'm unsure of the font used - can I update somehow to get a font I would like?
3.) Do you accept first born children in exchange for the numpad XD
SO excited to be receiving this! ;D
1) As i can see, YES! You made it. :thumb:
2) Yea. You can update it later.
3) Yea. I think so. :cool:
Is the PCB software going to be available prior?Can we get a list of the founders edition winners? Also, where is the PCB from?
I will update the list tomorrow. But 50 orders have been placed. :p
PCB made by my team. Made in China. ;)
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Yes, You can use BootMapperClient. Easy and friendly.
Will winkeyless.kr's pcb's also fit into this case?
Hey there, I joined, a couple questions:
1.) Did I make it in the founders edition?
2.) I ordered 3 custom plates but I'm unsure of the font used - can I update somehow to get a font I would like?
3.) Do you accept first born children in exchange for the numpad XD
SO excited to be receiving this! ;D
1) As i can see, YES! You made it. :thumb:
2) Yea. You can update it later.
3) Yea. I think so. :cool:
I am quite anxious to see the list
Hey there, I joined, a couple questions:
1.) Did I make it in the founders edition?
2.) I ordered 3 custom plates but I'm unsure of the font used - can I update somehow to get a font I would like?
3.) Do you accept first born children in exchange for the numpad XD
SO excited to be receiving this! ;D
1) As i can see, YES! You made it. :thumb:
2) Yea. You can update it later.
3) Yea. I think so. :cool:
I am quite anxious to see the list
I see you in the list. :p
Can you double check if I made the list? :)
On reddit you said "I think you made it in" which only makes me anxious :c
Hey there, I joined, a couple questions:
1.) Did I make it in the founders edition?
2.) I ordered 3 custom plates but I'm unsure of the font used - can I update somehow to get a font I would like?
3.) Do you accept first born children in exchange for the numpad XD
SO excited to be receiving this! ;D
1) As i can see, YES! You made it. :thumb:
2) Yea. You can update it later.
3) Yea. I think so. :cool:
I am quite anxious to see the list
I see you in the list. :p
I made it into one of the 33?!
yeeey:DCan you double check if I made the list? :)
On reddit you said "I think you made it in" which only makes me anxious :cHey there, I joined, a couple questions:
1.) Did I make it in the founders edition?
2.) I ordered 3 custom plates but I'm unsure of the font used - can I update somehow to get a font I would like?
3.) Do you accept first born children in exchange for the numpad XD
SO excited to be receiving this! ;D
1) As i can see, YES! You made it. :thumb:
2) Yea. You can update it later.
3) Yea. I think so. :cool:
I am quite anxious to see the list
I see you in the list. :p
I made it into one of the 33?!
All you guys made it! :thumb:
I am very appreciated for your support. :-*
Am I on the list? :OO
yeeey:DCan you double check if I made the list? :)
On reddit you said "I think you made it in" which only makes me anxious :cHey there, I joined, a couple questions:
1.) Did I make it in the founders edition?
2.) I ordered 3 custom plates but I'm unsure of the font used - can I update somehow to get a font I would like?
3.) Do you accept first born children in exchange for the numpad XD
SO excited to be receiving this! ;D
1) As i can see, YES! You made it. :thumb:
2) Yea. You can update it later.
3) Yea. I think so. :cool:
I am quite anxious to see the list
I see you in the list. :p
I made it into one of the 33?!
All you guys made it! :thumb:
I am very appreciated for your support. :-*
thanks for responding to all these questions!
here's another question:
so founders editions will get an extra brass plate with custom text? will you be sending a form out for this later?
Very excited about this, hoping for a founders edition. I love the price! I also think the custom engraving is a really nice touch.
Very excited about this, hoping for a founders edition. I love the price! I also think the custom engraving is a really nice touch.
It's a super nice touch. Makes the board so much more customizable that it really does hold true the meaning of 'custom keyboard'
Very excited about this, hoping for a founders edition. I love the price! I also think the custom engraving is a really nice touch.
Sorry I'm bombarding you with questions :3.
Do you have pictures of the dark gray color? I chose it but would like to see a sample.
Dang I missed Founder's Edition...
Can we get more than three name plates? I want to have access to a bunch of different colors to pair with keysets.
I think I'm on the list... I must have submitted a few minutes after it opened... SO EXCITED YAY
Dang I missed Founder's Edition...
Can we get more than three name plates? I want to have access to a bunch of different colors to pair with keysets.
Yes. You can get many name plates. Just list out in the text box below. :thumb:
I think I'm on the list... I must have submitted a few minutes after it opened... SO EXCITED YAY
Hey jhoang. Can you post the link to the google sheet of our responses for those of us that can't remember the options that we selected. Also, this might be an easy way for us to see who got one of the Founders editions.
Hey jhoang. Can you post the link to the google sheet of our responses for those of us that can't remember the options that we selected. Also, this might be an easy way for us to see who got one of the Founders editions.
That may not be an easy thing to do, because people will be editing their selection over time, which changes the current order spreadsheet in real time, and sharing that full spreadsheet will not work (due to personal information contained), so a custom, separately-made spreadsheet will be easier to share once orders close and no more changes are made.
Am I the only one who prefer a nice colored weight to a the brass founders edition? :p
Hey jhoang. Can you post the link to the google sheet of our responses for those of us that can't remember the options that we selected. Also, this might be an easy way for us to see who got one of the Founders editions.
Am I the only one who prefer a nice colored weight to a the brass founders edition? :p
Am I the only one who prefer a nice colored weight to a the brass founders edition? :p
I would like the colored weight too, but hey, it's a free brass plate naw? :P
Since founders are getting the brass plate with custom engraving, are we able to buy another one? I'd love to purchase a colored aluminum one as well
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So sad that I did not make to it in the founder's edition, been following the ic for almost everyday.
Another question. If I want two boards, do I just place another order?
Non-detachable cable (coiled cable FOR FEE)
Is switch top removal an option on the plates?
Are zealios 78g and transparent gold plated stabs available for assemble and switch tuning?
Saw this in the Google form:QuoteNon-detachable cable (coiled cable FOR FEE)
Was that supposed to be FOR FREE...? Or is it for a fee :-X
Is there going to be a list with all the options for the assemble service?
Do you have a cost estimate on how much it would cost for Zealios 67g+transparent gold plated stabs on top of the $90 assembly? Also what revision are the Zealios?
Does "designed" name plate mean a name plate like the prototype has with "Exclusive E8-V1" engraved on it?
Thanks for the quick reply! Is it possible to order a set of stabilizers with the board, I already got the switches. That would be very convenient. :)Is there going to be a list with all the options for the assemble service?
Yes, I will do it later. For you, you just enter your options on switches and stabilizer.
We will consider your options and PM you later.
Does "designed" name plate mean a name plate like the prototype has with "Exclusive E8-V1" engraved on it?
Yes, that's it
Thanks for the quick reply! Is it possible to order a set of stabilizers with the board, I already got the switches. That would be very convenient. :)Is there going to be a list with all the options for the assemble service?
Yes, I will do it later. For you, you just enter your options on switches and stabilizer.
We will consider your options and PM you later.
Does "designed" name plate mean a name plate like the prototype has with "Exclusive E8-V1" engraved on it?
Yes, that's it
Thanks! The logo looks good, I gotta get a bunch of those. :D
One more question - when will the dark blue color sample be up? I am hoping for a "midnight" or navy blue color.
Damn, I want this so bad but I'm already broke :(. Maybe I should order a nameplate and buy one off mechmarket in future
Is there a way to edit my form? I decided I basically want to change most of the options I selected. I'd rather not have my submission deleted as that would mean I would lose my potential spot for the founder's edition. Do you have a reddit handle I can contact, as I am not too familiar with GH. Thanks!
Some pictures of custom coiled cables as gift: http://imgur.com/a/odRT4 :p
Some pictures of custom coiled cables as gift: http://imgur.com/a/odRT4 :p
Is switch top removal an option on the plates?
Hey jhoang. Can you post the link to the google sheet of our responses for those of us that can't remember the options that we selected. Also, this might be an easy way for us to see who got one of the Founders editions.
Oh. Okay. I will sort the list soon. But you can submit another form with the note "Final form" ;D
Haha. Founders edition can get extra aluminium weight. :p
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Yea, i will add an option now. Dang. I just forgot to do it. ;D
Damn, I want this so bad but I'm already broke :(. Maybe I should order a nameplate and buy one off mechmarket in future
Haha. It's a nice solution. :thumb: Maybe I will give you an engraving name plate for free. :p
Some pictures of custom coiled cables as gift: http://imgur.com/a/odRT4 :p
Some pictures of custom coiled cables as gift: http://imgur.com/a/odRT4 :p
OK. Here's the list of those who get in Founders spot:
1. SixtyLife - geekhack
2. Mmdango - geekhack
3. Duhhey - reddit
4. Slash Emperor - geekhack
5. Butter - geekhack
6. UsualSuspectXXX - geekhack
7. Patchworks - geekhack
8. photoelectric - geekhack
9. scttooo - reddit
10. Unforgivable - geekhack
11. mrboovn - geekhack
12. Roostrc0gburn - geekhack
13. o3okevin - geekhack
14. CJD_Anthony - geekhack
15. smittysteve - geekhack
16. magic_duckie - reddit
17. bokolife - geekhack
18. gt1989 - geekhack
19. iArson - geekhack
20. unoab - geekhack
21. deleonhle - geekhack
22. Gajible - reddit
23. gadzkun - geekhack
24. Rec73 - reddit
25. Aperture_Sci - reddit
26. Alveeno - reddit
27. lvince95 - reddit
28. Enz0man - reddit
29. LDobler - geekhack
30. Ovoxo - geekhack
31. dongulator - geekhack
32. Oatsbagotes - geekhack
33. japanitrat - geekhack
Waiting list:
34. Syalthra - reddit
35. manofinterests - reddit
And the 2 lucky guys/girls are #7 and #32: Patchworks and Oatsbagotes. Each of you will get an E2-V1 numpad for free! Those who don't get in founders, don't worry. There's still one E2 numpad left for another lucky one. I will RNG the winner and annouce later when orders are closed ;)
I read the beginning of the thread, and it said that silver is the color of the prototype. Is this prototype: http://imgur.com/a/J4XX8 silver? If so, then what is dark gray considered?
OK. Here's the list of those who get in Founders spot:
1. SixtyLife - geekhack
2. Mmdango - geekhack
3. Duhhey - reddit
4. Slash Emperor - geekhack
5. Butter - geekhack
6. UsualSuspectXXX - geekhack
7. Patchworks - geekhack
8. photoelectric - geekhack
9. scttooo - reddit
10. Unforgivable - geekhack
11. mrboovn - geekhack
12. Roostrc0gburn - geekhack
13. o3okevin - geekhack
14. CJD_Anthony - geekhack
15. smittysteve - geekhack
16. magic_duckie - reddit
17. bokolife - geekhack
18. gt1989 - geekhack
19. iArson - geekhack
20. unoab - geekhack
21. deleonhle - geekhack
22. Gajible - reddit
23. gadzkun - geekhack
24. Rec73 - reddit
25. Aperture_Sci - reddit
26. Alveeno - reddit
27. lvince95 - reddit
28. Enz0man - reddit
29. LDobler - geekhack
30. Ovoxo - geekhack
31. dongulator - geekhack
32. Oatsbagotes - geekhack
33. japanitrat - geekhack
Waiting list:
34. Syalthra - reddit
35. manofinterests - reddit
And the 2 lucky guys/girls are #7 and #32: Patchworks and Oatsbagotes. Each of you will get an E2-V1 numpad for free! Those who don't get in founders, don't worry. There's still one E2 numpad left for another lucky one. I will RNG the winner and annouce later when orders are closed ;)
6. UsualSuspectXXX - geekhack
I'm just not going to buy anything else with rgb side or underglowa completely valid reason. but if you're worried about it being trendy or not in 10 years' time (geekhack isn't even that old), you have your priorities wrong
I'm just not going to buy anything else with rgb side or underglowa completely valid reason. but if you're worried about it being trendy or not in 10 years' time (geekhack isn't even that old), you have your priorities wrong
My guess is a fear of their latent homosexuality. Those of us who are confident with our sexuality have no issues with RGB keyboards. Just because it can do rainbows doesn't make you gay.I'm just not going to buy anything else with rgb side or underglowa completely valid reason. but if you're worried about it being trendy or not in 10 years' time (geekhack isn't even that old), you have your priorities wrong
I dont understand people's hate for rgb. You can change it to w/e color you want or you can just completely shut it off. Rgb doesnt mean you have to put it in 'rainbow' mode...
OK. Here's the list of those who get in Founders spot:
1. SixtyLife - geekhack
2. Mmdango - geekhack
3. Duhhey - reddit
4. Slash Emperor - geekhack
5. Butter - geekhack
6. UsualSuspectXXX - geekhack
7. Patchworks - geekhack
8. photoelectric - geekhack
9. scttooo - reddit
10. Unforgivable - geekhack
11. mrboovn - geekhack
12. Roostrc0gburn - geekhack
13. o3okevin - geekhack
14. CJD_Anthony - geekhack
15. smittysteve - geekhack
16. magic_duckie - reddit
17. bokolife - geekhack
18. gt1989 - geekhack
19. iArson - geekhack
20. unoab - geekhack
21. deleonhle - geekhack
22. Gajible - reddit
23. gadzkun - geekhack
24. Rec73 - reddit
25. Aperture_Sci - reddit
26. Alveeno - reddit
27. lvince95 - reddit
28. Enz0man - reddit
29. LDobler - geekhack
30. Ovoxo - geekhack
31. dongulator - geekhack
32. Oatsbagotes - geekhack
33. japanitrat - geekhack
Please excuse me for the stupid question, but I've never done a GB on here before. What happens if the keyboard breaks? I have a Red Scarf II+ that just completely broke out of no where (keyboard will not type, isn't usb cable, isn't PC drivers, just broken), and I was able to return it to massdrop to get my money back. If one of these has a similar issue, am I just completely out of luck? I love this board, but I am skeptical to do anything after my recent issue.
Thanks for the input!
OK. Here's the list of those who get in Founders spot:
submitted !! 4 color black, dark gray, rose gold, red
You can send the money to me as a gift for saving money. Please PM me before invoicing <---
What does that mean?
do we have any pictures of the green color? dark vs bright green is a rather important distinction
One more question - when will the dark blue color sample be up? I am hoping for a "midnight" or navy blue color.
It should be like this: http://imgur.com/m9LawXE :thumb:
I guess its a bit late to ask now, but no plan for 2u backspace support right? totally forgot to ask that in the IC phase
It's the left-most top green.it is.. my fault for not seeing it
I would really love to see how many people got the layout in the OP and how many got Winkeyless. That would really be cool. Maybe once invoices start going out. As for the founders edition, I think getting a brass weight and a custom brass name plate is the coolest thing ever!
You guys are doing awesome! :thumb:
Edit: And a free cable/numberpads? You guys are super generous! :eek: Thank you! Congrats to those lucky numberpad winners. It'll be perfect with your E8-V1 case! ;)
I'm reaaaally thinking about jumping in for one of these.I think its $130. He mentioned in one of the previous comments
How can I figure out how much one would be, with Zealios 67gs, the clear zeal stabs, and fully built?
-Aox
For the Zealios orders, I think we will pre-order and use Round 5 Zealios. I will have the exact assembling quote from the assembler guy once the orders are sorted out. I'm working on sorting out and will post a public spreadsheet so you guys can check your orders. Then invoice will start going out!What's the estimated ship date if we decide to get it assembled?
If anyone has a question that hasn't been answered, feel free to shoot me a pm :)
So those of us who are not participating in an assembly process will not be able to buy those vintage blacks? :(
let me know if we can work something out, id love to get my hands on some!!
About Assembly options:
We can support you with:
- Cherry Black from Wyse keyboard: 90s vintage cherry blacks. After desoldering, all switches will be cleaned by Ultrasonic, then tune with Dupont Krytox Lube. (mixed 103 and 205)
- Chery Black from Cherry G80-0577: true 80s vintage blacks, Screw in stabs, fully cleaned and tuned
Old Cherry switches only available for orders with full tuning (lube, spring swap, w or w/o stickers, hotswap LEDs) and not for sale separately. We only use Krytox lube, mixing from 103 and 205.
Hello! I have never participated in a GH group buy and this is my first post here too.
Do you offer switch tuning for gaterons as well? Thanks!
EDIT: just submitted a form, didn't realize i could specify everything in the form, whoops!
jhoang, what tool will be used for reprogramming?
Also, any word on the white/beige finish?
Good call! Interested in this as well. Had a great source for vintage black switches that dried up. Reminds me of college.....
So those of us who are not participating in an assembly process will not be able to buy those vintage blacks? :(
let me know if we can work something out, id love to get my hands on some!!
Oh wow did not know vintage blacks would be an option! I might change my mind about no assembly then... Could you give an estimate of the assembly cost with vintage blacks?
can any vintage blacks expert please enlighten us plebs on the finer differences between 80s and 90s switches?
Basically, around 1994-1995, Cherry (they have officially confirmed this) changed the material used for the switches. Typically, switches made in the 1980's are considered vintage since these are all before the material change. Ones afterwards are still smooth, but not on the same level as the 1980 ones. However, there are some occasional ones from 1996 which are also very smooth which makes sense as a lot of the vintage boards were not consistent and often time had a mix of switches. Many people claim that the logo is the best indicator of a vintage switch, as in big logo = vintage. I find this to be false and even chyrosran has a video where he disproves this. The best indicator is PCB date, and even still there are some outliers. Hopefully this helped.
Hello! I have never participated in a GH group buy and this is my first post here too.
Do you offer switch tuning for gaterons as well? Thanks!
EDIT: just submitted a form, didn't realize i could specify everything in the form, whoops!
welcome to E8-V1 GB.
We can offer Gateron tuning, but it waste money and time.
jhoang, what tool will be used for reprogramming?
Also, any word on the white/beige finish?
Our PCB use BootMapper Client for keymap and drive RGB LEDs.
White (or similar color): still waiting factory confirm :(.
Yeah hopefully we could find out pretty soon. I'd be very interested in either of those colors.jhoang, what tool will be used for reprogramming?
Also, any word on the white/beige finish?
Our PCB use BootMapper Client for keymap and drive RGB LEDs.
White (or similar color): still waiting factory confirm :(.
With the GB slated to close on the 20th, we won't know if this is an option until it's too late? :confused:
We can offer Gateron tuning, but it waste money and time.
We can offer Gateron tuning, but it waste money and time.
What? Do you mean it needs more money and time or lubing isnt necessary for gateron?
We can offer Gateron tuning, but it waste money and time.
What? Do you mean it needs more money and time or lubing isnt necessary for gateron?
We can offer Gateron tuning, but it waste money and time.
What? Do you mean it needs more money and time or lubing isnt necessary for gateron?
Don't quote me on it, but I think I've read that lubricating brand new Gaterons doesn't really make them smoother. They are supposed to be fairly smooth already. (I have no personal experience with Gaterons other than 2 sample Zealios switches).
We can offer Gateron tuning, but it waste money and time.
What? Do you mean it needs more money and time or lubing isnt necessary for gateron?
Don't quote me on it, but I think I've read that lubricating brand new Gaterons doesn't really make them smoother. They are supposed to be fairly smooth already. (I have no personal experience with Gaterons other than 2 sample Zealios switches).
Yeah hopefully we could find out pretty soon. I'd be very interested in either of those colors.jhoang, what tool will be used for reprogramming?
Also, any word on the white/beige finish?
Our PCB use BootMapper Client for keymap and drive RGB LEDs.
White (or similar color): still waiting factory confirm :(.
With the GB slated to close on the 20th, we won't know if this is an option until it's too late? :confused:
Hey there, please check your order here: https://goo.gl/ghB1IL (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL) to see if there is any mistake before invoices are going out!
Regarding shipping cost, after talking with some guys over at DHL, it turns out the shipping cost will be way more expensive than what I was told earlier. After considering all the options, I decided to go with EMS (vnpost will be much cheaper but also way too slow and impossible to track outside of VN). Apologies for the small price hike in shipping.
I'm still working with the assembler guy and will update the exact quote on assembly fees and reply to all your pms/questions soon. Cheers.
Hey there, please check your order here: https://goo.gl/ghB1IL (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL) to see if there is any mistake before invoices are going out!
Regarding shipping cost, after talking with some guys over at DHL, it turns out the shipping cost will be way more expensive than what I was told earlier. After considering all the options, I decided to go with EMS (vnpost will be much cheaper but also way too slow and impossible to track outside of VN). Apologies for the small price hike in shipping.
I'm still working with the assembler guy and will update the exact quote on assembly fees and reply to all your pms/questions soon. Cheers.
If I want to change somethings on my order should I submit another order, or just pm you the changes I want?
founder edition got extra brass name plate right? so it means founder edition get 2 name plate in total?
if founder edition get 2 name plate, i have to change my form
founder edition got extra brass name plate right? so it means founder edition get 2 name plate in total?
if founder edition get 2 name plate, i have to change my form
Yes Founders get 2 name plates as default, with the extra brass nameplate engraved "E8-V1 Founders Edtion" - which isn't customizable
Is switch top removal an option on the plates?
You mean the engraving name plate?
founder edition got extra brass name plate right? so it means founder edition get 2 name plate in total?
if founder edition get 2 name plate, i have to change my form
Yes Founders get 2 name plates as default, with the extra brass nameplate engraved "E8-V1 Founders Edtion" - which isn't customizable
founder edition got extra brass name plate right? so it means founder edition get 2 name plate in total?
if founder edition get 2 name plate, i have to change my form
Yes Founders get 2 name plates as default, with the extra brass nameplate engraved "E8-V1 Founders Edtion" - which isn't customizable
pm sent :-* or should i fill new form? :rolleyes:wait wait wait wait........ whatttt!!!, is there an option for custom engraved counter weight? i think i mess up my form and dont read it properly cause i really want to get in the founder edition.
nvm i think its just the wrong spreadsheeti think i need to fill a new form is that ok xD
spreadsheet updated thanks :thumb:
now just wait for invoice :p
I noticed on the spread sheet that /u/Syalthra from reddit and myself both have 17 as our Founders #.
Updated my order as well!
/u/magic_duckie, #16 founders - resubmitted a form with a note.
Update. I added a note that I'd also like 2 additional name plates, which the form did not allow for.
Updated my order. Apparently I managed to misspell my user name /u/Syalnthra should be /u/Sylanthra... Also added custom text, but I am wondering it it is too long. What is the length of the text we can use? Will the font simply get smaller that longer the text is?
I updated my order!!
Is switch top removal an option on the plates?
You mean the engraving name plate?
No, the switch plate. Does it have cut outs for removing switch tops?
I updated my order!!
There are two problems:
1. Founders Edition is forced to use BRASS Counterweight. If you want to get another Aluminium RED Counterweight, please get it as extra. :p
2. Your custom text is too long. It should be less than 22 characters. :D
Please submit another form. I will update your order later. :thumb:
Update. I added a note that I'd also like 2 additional name plates, which the form did not allow for.
I have just updated your orders! Please check it again. ;)
Did white never go through?
Updated my order as well!
/u/magic_duckie, #16 founders - resubmitted a form with a note.
I have just updated your orders! Please check it again. ;)
Update. I added a note that I'd also like 2 additional name plates, which the form did not allow for.
I have just updated your orders! Please check it again. ;)
Did white never go through?
Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[
I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.
ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
With the most recent updates to the form, it looks like my name plates for messed up. It looked correct before.Update. I added a note that I'd also like 2 additional name plates, which the form did not allow for.
I have just updated your orders! Please check it again. ;)
Just updated the form again (keponii - reddit), I corrected a typo and added another name plate.
Submitted a new order form to replace my current order. Still thinking of what I want to put on one of my extra brass nameplates and on my dark blue aluminum name plate, so I put (To be determined) on those for now, but I will send a PM for those as soon as I decide.
With the most recent updates to the form, it looks like my name plates for messed up. It looked correct before.Update. I added a note that I'd also like 2 additional name plates, which the form did not allow for.
I have just updated your orders! Please check it again. ;)
Please send me a PM ;D
Maybe I'm an idiot, but how do I edit the google form when I'm on another computer?
Maybe I'm an idiot, but how do I edit the google form when I'm on another computer?
You can send a PM to me. I will help you to update. Or you can submit another form with the note: "resubmission" ;)
Sad to see no sky blue or cool white led offered :(
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Update:Are the transparent top covers included in gateron switches?
1. I have updated all your orders so far. Please let me know if there is any problems.
2. I have checked all orders again. Then I will send the invoices. I will send the invoice of no assembly orders first.
3. You guys can check the assembly cost here: http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem/
Update:Are the transparent top covers included in gateron switches?
1. I have updated all your orders so far. Please let me know if there is any problems.
2. I have checked all orders again. Then I will send the invoices. I will send the invoice of no assembly orders first.
3. You guys can check the assembly cost here: http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem/
I have updated all your orders so far. Please let me know if there is any problems.
I have updated all your orders so far. Please let me know if there is any problems.
My latest changes (via PM) are not reflected yet. Sorry for any extra work! <3
Did the google doc get reverted? All my stuff got changed back i think @_@
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Could you respond to this jhoang?
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Could you respond to this jhoang?
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Could you respond to this jhoang?
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
Wow, that is amazing! Sign me up for that then. Should I make a note on my form? I'm planning on going it over one more time tonight.
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
I'd like the same as well. Please keep us apprised.
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Could you respond to this jhoang?
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
Wow, that is amazing! Sign me up for that then. Should I make a note on my form? I'm planning on going it over one more time tonight.Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
I'd like the same as well. Please keep us apprised.
Okay. I will note it. You don't need to make a note in the form. :D
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
I'd like the same as well. Please keep us apprised.
Okay. I will note it. You don't need to make a note in the form. :D
i need to resubmit. can i while keeping my raffle win?
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Could you respond to this jhoang?
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
Wow, that is amazing! Sign me up for that then. Should I make a note on my form? I'm planning on going it over one more time tonight.Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
I'd like the same as well. Please keep us apprised.
Okay. I will note it. You don't need to make a note in the form. :D
Can I get in on the white color as well?
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
I'd like the same as well. Please keep us apprised.
Okay. I will note it. You don't need to make a note in the form. :D
Fantastic, thank you!
@KetchyKech, ya hear that?
yeeeee~ if its possible its going to be stunning!!
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
I'd like the same as well. Please keep us apprised.
Okay. I will note it. You don't need to make a note in the form. :D
Fantastic, thank you!
@KetchyKech, ya hear that?
yeeeee~ if its possible its going to be stunning!! Sigh part of me wants to wait and see a sample before i commit for a board for myself~ but I know a late entry like that prob won't be accepted. Hope the factory can pull it through, def interested
Did white never go through?Did white never go through?
I highly doubt it ='[I also updated my order. If White/Beige goes through, I would want to change to one of those, so lmk if that ever happens.ordered a dark blue for a friend, and was going to go in myself had the white gone through :'(
still excited :cool: !
For white/beige color, I have asked the factory. They will send us the sample later. But I don't wanna miss the timeline.
So I think we should move on. We will get you guys this special color in our next GB. We will have more designs and versions. Stay tuned! :thumb:
Sorry for being stubborn, but is it possible to sign up for white, and if it comes in time, we can swap over? But if not, then we stick with whatever color we have on our form? I'm planning on this board being my endgame, so I'd rather not have to wait for a new GB.
Could you respond to this jhoang?
Oh. Yes. You can do it. I will try to get White color soon. If it's good enough, I will get you one. :thumb:
yeeeee~ if its possible its going to be stunning!!
Do you have a reference photo of a white sample that looks good? When I look up microarc oxidation, all the results I find look a bit rough and very matte. I wouldn't call it "stunning".
(P.S.: looking at photos of HTC One S, seems like that finish also shows finger oil quite well on darker colors).
Beige would possibly look like this:MoreShow Image(https://www.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/postimages/684/htc-one-s-18_1_0.jpg)[/img]
I can already see that one of the disadvantages would be the difficulty in keeping such a white case looking clean (lots of marks on that one). Normal sandblasted and anodized aluminum hides a lot of imperfections fairly well.
There were a lot of changes from you guys.
I'm overloaded. :confused:
But I will try to get this done today. :thumb:
There were a lot of changes from you guys.
I'm overloaded. :confused:
But I will try to get this done today. :thumb:
There were a lot of changes from you guys.
I'm overloaded. :confused:
But I will try to get this done today. :thumb:
Hah - we are a fickle bunch. I think it's Bc you are giving us so many choices, which is great, but also leads to this
Everyone should probably decide on the final configuration ASAP or this GB will keep stalling for no good reason :)
Everyone should probably decide on the final configuration ASAP or this GB will keep stalling for no good reason :)
I need to stop changing every minor details on my form, but I can't stop! Ahaha.
Everyone should probably decide on the final configuration ASAP or this GB will keep stalling for no good reason :)
I need to stop changing every minor details on my form, but I can't stop! Ahaha.
Technically the deadline for that was this Monday :)
UPDATE: I have updated all your orders. Please check it! :p
I will reply all PMs later. :thumb:
White (it's actually a bit of grey) Plasma Microarc Oxidation is available! I will update the sample soon.
You can change the color of Top or Bottom to White (a bit of grey) after the payment until Mar 03. No worries. :thumb:
This color will be limited to 18. So if you want to change, please PM me!
UPDATE: I have updated all your orders. Please check it! :p
I will reply all PMs later. :thumb:
White (it's actually a bit of grey) Plasma Microarc Oxidation is available! I will update the sample soon.
You can change the color of Top or Bottom to White (a bit of grey) after the payment until Mar 03. No worries. :thumb:
This color will be limited to 18. So if you want to change, please PM me!
Just sent a PM about this, hopefully I'm not too late!
UPDATE: I have updated all your orders. Please check it! :p
I will reply all PMs later. :thumb:
White (it's actually a bit of grey) Plasma Microarc Oxidation is available! I will update the sample soon.
You can change the color of Top or Bottom to White (a bit of grey) after the payment until Mar 03. No worries. :thumb:
This color will be limited to 18. So if you want to change, please PM me!
UPDATE: I have updated all your orders. Please check it! :p
I will reply all PMs later. :thumb:
White (it's actually a bit of grey) Plasma Microarc Oxidation is available! I will update the sample soon.
You can change the color of Top or Bottom to White (a bit of grey) after the payment until Mar 03. No worries. :thumb:
This color will be limited to 18. So if you want to change, please PM me!
HEY GUYS!!!!!
I have just sent out all the invoices. :p
If you have any changes, please PM me.
WARNING: Assembly cost will be sent in another invoice. Once you guys have your final decision. No worries about this. I will update the form soon. We will let you guys decide in a week. :thumb:
UPDATE: White (Plasma Mỉcro-arc Oxidation) will be updated soon. I just got sample from the factory. The cost of white color is a bit more expensive than others. But We will not increase the price this time. It will be limited to 18. FCFS.
Please PM me if you want to get White (a bit of grey) color. For white color, you need to change/buy more TOP AND BOTTOM. Cannot change/buy more top or bottom separately.
Thank you! :thumb:
HEY GUYS!!!!!
I have just sent out all the invoices. :p
If you have any changes, please PM me.
WARNING: Assembly cost will be sent in another invoice. Once you guys have your final decision. No worries about this. I will update the form soon. We will let you guys decide in a week. :thumb:
UPDATE: White (Plasma Mỉcro-arc Oxidation) will be updated soon. I just got sample from the factory. The cost of white color is a bit more expensive than others. But We will not increase the price this time. It will be limited to 18. FCFS.
Please PM me if you want to get White (a bit of grey) color. For white color, you need to change/buy more TOP AND BOTTOM. Cannot change/buy more top or bottom separately.
Thank you! :thumb:
Thanks for the clarification. I PM'd you previously regarding a white one but also wanted to ask in this thread since others might have the same question - are we able to get a plate in white as well? Or just the top/bottom?
HEY GUYS!!!!!
I have just sent out all the invoices. :p
If you have any changes, please PM me.
WARNING: Assembly cost will be sent in another invoice. Once you guys have your final decision. No worries about this. I will update the form soon. We will let you guys decide in a week. :thumb:
UPDATE: White (Plasma Mỉcro-arc Oxidation) will be updated soon. I just got sample from the factory. The cost of white color is a bit more expensive than others. But We will not increase the price this time. It will be limited to 18. FCFS.
Please PM me if you want to get White (a bit of grey) color. For white color, you need to change/buy more TOP AND BOTTOM. Cannot change/buy more top or bottom separately.
Thank you! :thumb:
Thanks for the clarification. I PM'd you previously regarding a white one but also wanted to ask in this thread since others might have the same question - are we able to get a plate in white as well? Or just the top/bottom?
I highly recommend you should not get white plate. :p Anw, we only order white Top/Bottom. :thumb:
Pm'd about getting a white case, but forgot to ask, is it possible to get 2 sets of top/bottom case then?
if i customize through this http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem/ do i have to pm you again?
i didn't know there was an option for white :(
if anyone wants to let theirs go lemme know, i'll take your spot
PM'd ;)i didn't know there was an option for white :(
if anyone wants to let theirs go lemme know, i'll take your spot
Actually, you still can PM me for a spot. :)
Parts invoice paid, ready for assembly invoice!
-Aox
Hi jhoang, I sent you a PM
Hi jhoang, I sent you a PM
Okay. I will check the inbox soon. :)
Just look at the order check list and realized I got bump to no. 13 on Founder list. Super excited about that number, whatever happens please make sure that 13 is my permanent number.
not sure if i missed this, but will there be a follow-up group buy for the E2-V1 numpad?
I'm a total noob when it comes to software but, when you say this keyboard is fully programmable via Bootmapperclient, does it mean that I can just remap anything I want in the program and...that's it? No flashing required and all that stuff?
Would really appreciate an answer so I can stop worrying about messing up something and bricking a nice keyboard!
I'm a total noob when it comes to software but, when you say this keyboard is fully programmable via Bootmapperclient, does it mean that I can just remap anything I want in the program and...that's it? No flashing required and all that stuff?
Would really appreciate an answer so I can stop worrying about messing up something and bricking a nice keyboard!
You still need to flash, but definitely looks easier than some of the other options. Here ya go.
BootMapper Client download (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/155)
How to use the Bootmapper Client (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154)
not sure if i missed this, but will there be a follow-up group buy for the E2-V1 numpad?of coz it will be
Did anyone else who switched to white get a revised invoice yet? jhoang I sent you a PM about revising my invoice, hope it didn't get lost.Dont.worry bro he had checked it .
Did anyone else who switched to white get a revised invoice yet? jhoang I sent you a PM about revising my invoice, hope it didn't get lost.
Did anyone else who switched to white get a revised invoice yet? jhoang I sent you a PM about revising my invoice, hope it didn't get lost.
Did anyone else who switched to white get a revised invoice yet? jhoang I sent you a PM about revising my invoice, hope it didn't get lost.
i need a revised invoice also
UPDATE: White (Plasma Mỉcro-arc Oxidation) will be updated soon. I just got sample from the factory. The cost of white color is a bit more expensive than others. But We will not increase the price this time. It will be limited to 18. FCFS.
Please PM me if you want to get White (a bit of grey) color. For white color, you need to change/buy more TOP AND BOTTOM. Cannot change/buy more top or bottom separately.
I'm a total noob when it comes to software but, when you say this keyboard is fully programmable via Bootmapperclient, does it mean that I can just remap anything I want in the program and...that's it? No flashing required and all that stuff?
Would really appreciate an answer so I can stop worrying about messing up something and bricking a nice keyboard!
You still need to flash, but definitely looks easier than some of the other options. Here ya go.
BootMapper Client download (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/155)
How to use the Bootmapper Client (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154)
From what I understand, I'll have to use BootMapper Client to customize the layout and everything, and then that will generate a .hex file, if I remember correctly. Now where do I go from that?
Thanks!
I'm a total noob when it comes to software but, when you say this keyboard is fully programmable via Bootmapperclient, does it mean that I can just remap anything I want in the program and...that's it? No flashing required and all that stuff?
Would really appreciate an answer so I can stop worrying about messing up something and bricking a nice keyboard!
You still need to flash, but definitely looks easier than some of the other options. Here ya go.
BootMapper Client download (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/155)
How to use the Bootmapper Client (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154)
From what I understand, I'll have to use BootMapper Client to customize the layout and everything, and then that will generate a .hex file, if I remember correctly. Now where do I go from that?
Thanks!
Once you have the firmware flashed and uploaded the first time (not sure if factory will do this or not), the bootmapper can allow you to edit the keycodes on the matrix. All you have to do is press upload, and the new layout is saved.
Usually that's the case: there's preloaded firmware with some starter configuration. Then you modify the keymap if you want something different and re-flash that. Otherwise it should work like a regular TKL keyboard out of the box, for typing purposes.
I'm a total noob when it comes to software but, when you say this keyboard is fully programmable via Bootmapperclient, does it mean that I can just remap anything I want in the program and...that's it? No flashing required and all that stuff?
Would really appreciate an answer so I can stop worrying about messing up something and bricking a nice keyboard!
You still need to flash, but definitely looks easier than some of the other options. Here ya go.
BootMapper Client download (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/155)
How to use the Bootmapper Client (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154)
From what I understand, I'll have to use BootMapper Client to customize the layout and everything, and then that will generate a .hex file, if I remember correctly. Now where do I go from that?
Thanks!
Once you have the firmware flashed and uploaded the first time (not sure if factory will do this or not), the bootmapper can allow you to edit the keycodes on the matrix. All you have to do is press upload, and the new layout is saved.
I've asked around a bit and everyone has pointed me to Atmel Flip (to flash the firmware). I'm assuming this board will come preflashed, if so does that mean it'll only require me to mess around in bootmapper to change the layout? And if it doesn't come preflashed, I'll have to flash the .hex file myself, including the firmware from http://blog.winkeyless.kr/153 , right?
I'm guessing it's hard to tell for now because no one knows if the pcb will be using atmega32a or atmega32u4.
Sorry for the newbie questions!
How about the assembly invoices? Should we expect those soon?
-Aox
Can I have the form to change my assembly option please.. :D
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Nice job with the photoshop! I'm surprised you didn't do the white one.
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Nice job with the photoshop! I'm surprised you didn't do the white one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kNg34Sd.jpg)
I tried!
I am looking forward to the beginning of April!! :thumb: :thumb:
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Nice job with the photoshop! I'm surprised you didn't do the white one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kNg34Sd.jpg)
I tried!
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Nice job with the photoshop! I'm surprised you didn't do the white one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kNg34Sd.jpg)
I tried!
Looks a bit more like light gold to me, but it's definitely making me want the white color!
Alright, so I got bored and spent some time in Photoshop because I was curious to see how different color combos would actually look like.
Not 100% accurate of course, but this was the best I could do based off the color chart given here : http://imgur.com/fH16GqDMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OCiQs2M.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CHK4xiP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/R4UqRnC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tZ9tvt2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A5f75aj.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0wmjO0.jpg)
I sliiiightly regret not getting the blue case now.
Nice job with the photoshop! I'm surprised you didn't do the white one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kNg34Sd.jpg)
I tried!
Looks a bit more like light gold to me, but it's definitely making me want the white color!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I2CbD76.jpg)
Better? Haha!
White here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83530.msg2378496#msg2378496
Hey Jhoang,
My order still shows up as silver when I was one of the first people to swap to white. Could you update the form?
I just realized that the timeline expects the kb to be shipped april. are we still on track for that? :)
I just realized that the timeline expects the kb to be shipped april. are we still on track for that? :)
Yea. :p
I will try to ship out the keyboards in April. :p
I just realized that the timeline expects the kb to be shipped april. are we still on track for that? :)
Yea. :p
I will try to ship out the keyboards in April. :p
I just realized that the timeline expects the kb to be shipped april. are we still on track for that? :)
Yea. :p
I will try to ship out the keyboards in April. :p
I just realized that the timeline expects the kb to be shipped april. are we still on track for that? :)
Yea. :p
I will try to ship out the keyboards in April. :p
Much excitement!
You guys are probably tired of my recent rant but here we go:
Any idea on which direction the switches will face on the PCB? I ask because I just discovered today that GMK caps do not work on R3 switches where the led faces north (upside down switch placement). Well, they work, but have a muted bottoming out since the keycap collides with the switch housing. Yes, this is a thing. Yes I believe thousands of GMK users have overlooked it. Please for the love of god point the switches correctly. Pretty sure a large chunk of us will be putting GMK sets on here.
Just a quick update to keep you guys informed: PayPal has been holding all the money on my account so I had to use my own money to keep things on track. Money was paid for the PCBs and they are already in production. The cases will also go into production shortly so expect everything to be finished by the end of April. I will reply to all the pms soon :thumb:
Just a quick update to keep you guys informed: PayPal has been holding all the money on my account so I had to use my own money to keep things on track. Money was paid for the PCBs and they are already in production. The cases will also go into production shortly so expect everything to be finished by the end of April. I will reply to all the pms soon :thumb:
There are no words to describe your efforts and actions.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart
Just a quick update to keep you guys informed: PayPal has been holding all the money on my account so I had to use my own money to keep things on track. Money was paid for the PCBs and they are already in production. The cases will also go into production shortly so expect everything to be finished by the end of April. I will reply to all the pms soon :thumb:
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Just a quick update to keep you guys informed: PayPal has been holding all the money on my account so I had to use my own money to keep things on track. Money was paid for the PCBs and they are already in production. The cases will also go into production shortly so expect everything to be finished by the end of April. I will reply to all the pms soon :thumb:
I'm PM'ing you about how to get your money quicker. Look for the PM about paypal.
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only just saw this board, looks fantastic, congrats to everyone that got inYea I love the bottom row it's looking real nice.
Anyone remember what the layout of the bottom row is? 1.5 1.5 1.5 6.25?
Anyone remember what the layout of the bottom row is? 1.5 1.5 1.5 6.25?
Winkeyless is 7u/ 1.5u
Standard cool/ funky layout is 6.25/1.25
... I think.
wait... SORTING? does that mean manufacturing has been done? thats like way too soon right?And them pills make you want to sell me your spot right?
i feel like im taking crazy pills
wait... SORTING? does that mean manufacturing has been done? thats like way too soon right?
i feel like im taking crazy pills
wait... SORTING? does that mean manufacturing has been done? thats like way too soon right?And them pills make you want to sell me your spot right?
i feel like im taking crazy pills
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Lol :Dwait... SORTING? does that mean manufacturing has been done? thats like way too soon right?And them pills make you want to sell me your spot right?
i feel like im taking crazy pills
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He may not be going *that* crazy =P
I am very on the edge of my seat waiting for this. This is almost as beautiful as the matrix 8XV1.0
I am...very insanely in love with the top row of the Matrix...
Just a quick update to keep you guys informed: PayPal has been holding all the money on my account so I had to use my own money to keep things on track. Money was paid for the PCBs and they are already in production. The cases will also go into production shortly so expect everything to be finished by the end of April. I will reply to all the pms soon :thumb:
no worries bro.Just a quick update to keep you guys informed: PayPal has been holding all the money on my account so I had to use my own money to keep things on track. Money was paid for the PCBs and they are already in production. The cases will also go into production shortly so expect everything to be finished by the end of April. I will reply to all the pms soon :thumb:
Hey Jhoang, did you get my message about the color change to White? :(
Did anyone in here ever send custom badge art? I still need to send in mine but I haven't received a response from PMs. Need to know dimensions and I need to pay for it still.
anyone knows if the bootmapper client (winkeyless's creation right?) supports linux specific keys? super/meta/etc
I am very on the edge of my seat waiting for this. This is almost as beautiful as the matrix 8XV1.0
I am...very insanely in love with the top row of the Matrix...
pm to you jhoang.i am a new one
Just a quick update to keep you guys informed: PayPal has been holding all the money on my account so I had to use my own money to keep things on track. Money was paid for the PCBs and they are already in production. The cases will also go into production shortly so expect everything to be finished by the end of April. I will reply to all the pms soon :thumb:
Hey Jhoang, did you get my message about the color change to White? :(
Hi Jhoang, I send you a pm about changing address. Did you get it?
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Did anyone in here ever send custom badge art? I still need to send in mine but I haven't received a response from PMs. Need to know dimensions and I need to pay for it still.
Same here, waiting for replies on this.
Did anyone in here ever send custom badge art? I still need to send in mine but I haven't received a response from PMs. Need to know dimensions and I need to pay for it still.
Another quick update: Nothing much, just want to show some progress, these are some images I got from the factory, hopefully I'll get more news for you guys soon :DMore
It looks very nice.
But, for the 4th time now, I ask. How do we tell you what we want on the badge? What are the dimension limits of what we can have engraved? How do we pay you?
Thanks for the updates :thumb:
Another quick update: Nothing much, just want to show some progress, these are some images I got from the factory, hopefully I'll get more news for you guys soon :DMore
Looks fantastic!
Will you be updating the spreadsheet for the orders soon?
Your team said via comments that the update was good, but I just want to confirm with you that my case will be ceramic white, and that my extra switch plate will still be Red Aluminum (Not steel). (2x Red aluminum switch plates in total). Thanks! (:
I remember in the initial google doc we were supposed to provide the link of what we wanted for custom engraving - I remember putting a link with text on it and picking out the font. Right?
It looks very nice.
But, for the 4th time now, I ask. How do we tell you what we want on the badge? What are the dimension limits of what we can have engraved? How do we pay you?
Thanks for the updates :thumb:Another quick update: Nothing much, just want to show some progress, these are some images I got from the factory, hopefully I'll get more news for you guys soon :DMore
Looks fantastic!
Will you be updating the spreadsheet for the orders soon?
Your team said via comments that the update was good, but I just want to confirm with you that my case will be ceramic white, and that my extra switch plate will still be Red Aluminum (Not steel). (2x Red aluminum switch plates in total). Thanks! (:
Sorry to both you guys for late response, for the custom badge I'll get back to you once I have confirmation from E. But you can submit your design to me and I'll forward it, a simple logo with a few texts should be no problem, complicated designs need to be double-checked because the results may come out not very good.
Yes Unforgivable I have noted down all the changes after the GB closed in a separated spreadsheet to send to the factory. Will be updating in the main sheet soon™ :thumb:
Were all the invoices for assembly stage finally out, jhoang bro :DI haven't received mine, if they have gone out already.
I'm pretty sure it is, but just to make sure, the LED backlighting you can turn on and off, correct?
Can RGB LED's be put in for backlighting? It looks like the firmware supports it, is that correct, or is that just for the bottom sidelighting?
I'm pretty sure it is, but just to make sure, the LED backlighting you can turn on and off, correct?
Can RGB LED's be put in for backlighting? It looks like the firmware supports it, is that correct, or is that just for the bottom sidelighting?
Should be just for the bottom sidelighting, and led backlight can be turned on and off.
This may be inaccurate but it's what I understand
Does it look like we are on track for the april ship date?:thumb:
Will there be another GB opportunity for one of these KB's? Love the look and options.we are still on researching for more and more keyboard. can you suggest us something that make next E-Team's keyboard really crazy?
Yep ,it will haveAny general idea when that will happen?
Yep ,it will have
Yep ,it will have
Please offer a few units in MAO finish. I need one to match my E8 badly. :thumb:
Has anyone been able to get a hold of jhoang lately? I tried PMing here and reddit with no luck. I'm moving tomorrow and dont want my keyboard to get shipped to my old address.
4 more days until end of April... No invoices for assembly yet, but can't imagine you guys starting it before getting paid for it...NO,worries bro .
Is there a more detailed status update we can get?
Has anyone been able to get a hold of jhoang lately? I tried PMing here and reddit with no luck. I'm moving tomorrow and dont want my keyboard to get shipped to my old address.post u address here or PM me :D
Hello guys
some things wanna tell you ,i will update more details about the keyboard .
we are always on the road, for those make yours keyboard more perfect .
it could be better than prototype.
thanks all.
4 more days until end of April... No invoices for assembly yet, but can't imagine you guys starting it before getting paid for it...NO,worries bro .
Is there a more detailed status update we can get?
jhoang had said paypal hold the money last month those was out of our planning .
that is why had delay .
Hello guys
some things wanna tell you ,i will update more details about the keyboard .
we are always on the road, for those make yours keyboard more perfect .
it could be better than prototype.
thanks all.
Now that it's the last day of April, were the E8-V1 shipped out? If not, could we get a status update :D
Now that it's the last day of April, were the E8-V1 shipped out? If not, could we get a status update :D
As Faux said, a status update would be nice.
Should we still pm you with files for the weight/name plates?yes I got some files that you guys have sent here and will send them to Exclusive, if there's something needed to be change I will contact you back
Should we still pm you with files for the weight/name plates?
Now that it's the last day of April, were the E8-V1 shipped out? If not, could we get a status update :D
As Faux said, a status update would be nice.
Hey guys, jhoang here. Sorry I haven't logged in GH recently, shipping time will be delayed to late May/early June. Machining for the keyboards is 2/3 done, I will update some photos here once it's complete. Also, some invoices for assembly has been sent and kuang2 is preparing/sourcing the components. I'm sorry we couldn't have the GB finished by the expected timeline and due to my personal work I couldn't provide enough updates or answered your pms in a timely manner. It was mostly me communicating with Exclusive but don't worry, I got help from some friends and all your changes were noted in a separate spreadsheet, will reply and confirm them right now
Should we still pm you with files for the weight/name plates?yes I got some files that you guys have sent here and will send them to Exclusive, if there's something needed to be change I will contact you back
I know the original timeline showed shipping in April, what is the updated shipping date? ANy idea? :) Super duper excited for this one.
Now that it's the last day of April, were the E8-V1 shipped out? If not, could we get a status update :D
As Faux said, a status update would be nice.
Hey guys, jhoang here. Sorry I haven't logged in GH recently, shipping time will be delayed to late May/early June. Machining for the keyboards is 2/3 done, I will update some photos here once it's complete. Also, some invoices for assembly has been sent and kuang2 is preparing/sourcing the components. I'm sorry we couldn't have the GB finished by the expected timeline and due to my personal work I couldn't provide enough updates or answered your pms in a timely manner. It was mostly me communicating with Exclusive but don't worry, I got help from some friends and all your changes were noted in a separate spreadsheet, will reply and confirm them right now
Progress :-*
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Progress :-*
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dunno how anyone could think these would be shipped by april... brb, adjusting my expectations
dunno how anyone could think these would be shipped by april... brb, adjusting my expectations
all the ppl wants it .i have explained it before .paypal hold the money that is why we cant on process
that is all wish you guys could understanding me .i had do all trying
dunno how anyone could think these would be shipped by april... brb, adjusting my expectations
all the ppl wants it .i have explained it before .paypal hold the money that is why we cant on process
that is all wish you guys could understanding me .i had do all trying
PM sent,whnever u can get around to it, JHoang
All parts have been CNCed!
Start doing microarc oxidation today. :thumb:
All parts have been CNCed!
Start doing microarc oxidation today. :thumb:
All parts have been CNCed!
Start doing microarc oxidation today. :thumb:
I am super excited for this build, and even more excited I was lucky enough to get in on the founders edition. Only thing I'm regretting is not getting the white - I think that is going to look super sexy, however, my dark grey won't look too shabby either.
Great job running this GB so far, the pictures make everything even more cooler!
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MJaFlmA.jpg)
in-progress photo! :p
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MJaFlmA.jpg)
in-progress photo! :p
Got an invoice for an additional amount, any idea what this is for?
Edit: it was for assembly services.. i dont recall signing up for assembly :/
Got an invoice for an additional amount, any idea what this is for?
Edit: it was for assembly services.. i dont recall signing up for assembly :/
It seems you ordered fully turned switches without assembly. ;D
:thumb: You will have all parts for assembly. Just need to solder... :pGot an invoice for an additional amount, any idea what this is for?
Edit: it was for assembly services.. i dont recall signing up for assembly :/
It seems you ordered fully turned switches without assembly. ;D
...okay im in
I don't think my assembly invoice reflects my change of choice of switches. Originally I had gateron browns but I changed them to mod m switches.
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:thumb: You will have all parts for assembly. Just need to solder... :pGot an invoice for an additional amount, any idea what this is for?
Edit: it was for assembly services.. i dont recall signing up for assembly :/
It seems you ordered fully turned switches without assembly. ;D
...okay im in
Please check your assembly options here: http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem/Paid :thumb:
Spreadsheet is not effective anymore for assemble. :thumb:
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teaser :p
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teaser :p
that's not the e8-v1 right? the bezels seem to be thicker
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teaser :p
that's not the e8-v1 right? the bezels seem to be thicker
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teaser :p
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teaser :p
that's not the e8-v1 right? the bezels seem to be thicker
It's not. The blocker is too wide, and there are only 2 keys to the right of the spacebar, not three.
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teaser :p
that's not the e8-v1 right? the bezels seem to be thicker
It's not. The blocker is too wide, and there are only 2 keys to the right of the spacebar, not three.
Yes, you are right. It is the same keyboard that is in jhoang's profile. Not sure what it is, but I really like how deeply inset the switches are. :)
So is the E8-V1 currently in production or notNo GB is currently running for it.
So is the E8-V1 currently in production or not
Its finishing up at the factory and should be shipping to jhoang end of this month. Shipping to those who didnt opt for assembly will be immediately after. Those who opted for assembly will receive theirs 2 weeks or so later!
not all invoices have went out right?
Its finishing up at the factory and should be shipping to jhoang end of this month. Shipping to those who didnt opt for assembly will be immediately after. Those who opted for assembly will receive theirs 2 weeks or so later!
Thanks for your updatenot all invoices have went out right?
yes, we have to check all assembly invoice before send out.
Next E-Team Project will be a 60% keyboard, which we work on more than 1 year.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RUZhBka.png)
Can I pay my paypal invoice for the assembly by june? I get paid on the 31st
Hey there, I got your order. I was so busy these days so I have not sent the invoice yet. I will send inovoice soon! Thanks!
WAIT! You never invoiced me for that order! You told me **2 weeks ago** that you would send it "soon" and I never got an invoice, now you're giving my order away?
From you:Hey there, I got your order. I was so busy these days so I have not sent the invoice yet. I will send inovoice soon! Thanks!
I have no pending invoices.WAIT! You never invoiced me for that order! You told me **2 weeks ago** that you would send it "soon" and I never got an invoice, now you're giving my order away?
From you:Hey there, I got your order. I was so busy these days so I have not sent the invoice yet. I will send inovoice soon! Thanks!
umm pretty sure I sent you an invoice 5 days ago but nvm let's just work it out. Sorry for the inconvenience
WAIT! You never invoiced me for that order! You told me **2 weeks ago** that you would send it "soon" and I never got an invoice, now you're giving my order away?
From you:Hey there, I got your order. I was so busy these days so I have not sent the invoice yet. I will send inovoice soon! Thanks!
umm pretty sure I sent you an invoice 5 days ago but nvm let's just work it out. Sorry for the inconvenience
All good man! Thanks! I'm really looking forward to this one!
EDIT: All paid up! **PHEW** :thumb:
Some pictures take from me .
Some pictures take from me .
Some pictures take from me .
+1 on the regrets on not getting the white X_X
+1 on the regrets on not getting the white X_X
Oh well, next time eh?
i have pm
after 3 days starting shipping
If it is Monday, that would be awesome :Oi have pm
after 3 days starting shipping
:eek: monday!?
Can I pay my paypal invoice for the assembly by june? I get paid on the 31st
sure :thumb:
Can I pay my paypal invoice for the assembly by june? I get paid on the 31st
sure :thumb:
hey jhoang, were you able to get my message or order?
HEY GUYS!!!
I was so busy last 2 weeks.
Today, I want to inform everyone that E8 will be delivered to my house tomorrow!
I will reply to your PMs soon.
So sorry for the delay!
Name plate:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dvY2ukP.jpg)
Packages from Exclusive in China:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zLJ9kyk.jpg)
HEY GUYS!!!
I was so busy last 2 weeks.
Today, I want to inform everyone that E8 will be delivered to my house tomorrow! Me and and some friends will be doing QC one more time as well as sorting the boards for you guys, hopefully everything will be as expected
I will reply to your PMs soon.
So sorry for the delay!
Name plate:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dvY2ukP.jpg)
Packages from Exclusive in China:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zLJ9kyk.jpg)
how soon should we expect boards without assembly be shipped to us?
honestly, some of these lookin pretty scuffed up. i hope replacements are being made for anything with a scratch on it...
honestly, some of these lookin pretty scuffed up. i hope replacements are being made for anything with a scratch on it...
Some look dusty, but I don't see any with scratches.
dusty? ok, maybe. but those green and blue cases look like they have scratches on them. maybe its just the pic, maybe its just a hair...
i know its a little soon for this, but is there any news about planning a gb for matching numpads? i need disalso please in white
I paid a visit to jhoang's house a couple of days ago and was really impressed with the white E8, super clean looking and for some reason the MAO surface kinda feels a little smoother than that of the Abel.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aI85Snh.jpg)
Looking to sell my spot, gray case with extra plate and PCB. Please message me for more details.
Looking to sell my spot, gray case with extra plate and PCB. Please message me for more details.
Buyer fell through so it is still available.
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when can i get a matching E2, though? :p
Hey guys,
All plates have been re-made!
The plates need to be anodized and shipped to me.
It takes 7-10 days.
I have sorted all other parts into the boxes. Just need to put the plates there.
Then I will ship out all the boards right after that.
All your PMs have been noted!
I will reply you guys soon.
Sorry for the delay!
PAY ATTENTION:E6 prototype has been done! I will make IC topic soon! :p
PAY ATTENTION:E6 prototype has been done! I will make IC topic soon! :p
Can you take a picture of Pink case?
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Can you take a picture of Pink case?
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And blue, it looks cyan
any updates on shipping date?
Hey guys,
All plates have been re-made!
The plates need to be anodized and shipped to me.
It takes 7-10 days.
I have sorted all other parts into the boxes. Just need to put the plates there.
Then I will ship out all the boards right after that.
Has jhoang responded to anyone's pm?
Has jhoang responded to anyone's pm?
Hey guys,
There was a problem with shipping the plates to China. It takes more time than I expected.
So the boards will be shipped in next 10 days. :-[
BTW, E6-V2 Group Buy will be launched today!
:)
Has jhoang responded to anyone's pm?
Replied!
Their 60% board. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90507.msg2455986#msg2455986Hey guys,
There was a problem with shipping the plates to China. It takes more time than I expected.
So the boards will be shipped in next 10 days. :-[
BTW, E6-V2 Group Buy will be launched today!
:)
What is the E6-V2?
Has jhoang responded to anyone's pm?
Replied!
Hey jhoang, did you see my PM?
Starting another GB before replying to our PMs :(
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Uhh, so has anyone received their board yet?
jhoang's last comment here states that shipping should've happened in July.
Hey guys,
There was a problem with shipping the plates to China. It takes more time than I expected.
So the boards will be shipped in next 10 days. :-[
BTW, E6-V2 Group Buy will be launched today!
:)
Just trying to figure out the steps here. So the plates will ship to you from China in the next week? And then... Is everything ready to send to out after you get the plates? So are we looking at 2-3 weeks and people will have E8-V1s on their desks?
I just got shipping notification. I'm doing self assembly though.
I'm doing self assembly and have not got anything yet. a couple of us did talk to exclusive, though and he said shipping by next week
i thought i should comment about the status of this group buy, since i have been in touch with exclusive and jhoang still has not updated this thread.
as i am told by exclusive, (and please correct me if i am wrong) the plates should be en route to him in china from jhoang in vietnam. according to jhoang, the plates were shipped sometime last week but tracking was not provided. in the meantime, jhoang has been unreachable by anyone. when exclusive receives the plates, it will take him approximately 5 days to reanodize them and ship back to jhoang. jhoang has all the other parts in his posession.
with all the delays and time it takes to ship parts back and forth between everyone, it could be another 3-4 weeks before buyers receive their kits. i would like to point out that the timeline will be nearing the limitation for a paypal dispute. any further delays will push this group buy beyond that point.
i have talked with a few buyers individually, so i will add this note. personally, i trust exclusive to provide a quality product. the lapse in communication and lack of follow-through from jhoang concerns me at this point. hopefully he can provide an update that will dispel any anxieties we have.
he's around... just not posting in this thread for some reason.
Even if there is no new update... at least post SOMETHING to let people know they're not being ignored. Theres a lot of money riding on this GB. :rolleyes:
he's around... just not posting in this thread for some reason.
Even if there is no new update... at least post SOMETHING to let people know they're not being ignored. Theres a lot of money riding on this GB. :rolleyes:
most recent i've heard is that the plates are still MIA
my paypal protection end on 23 august,I too would like a new invoice for my paypal protection
jhoang if you can i want you to send me a new invoice for repurchase to extend my paypal protection and then refund me the first invoice,
if you cant i hate to say this but i will dispute it for sure, cause i know this gb wont make in time.
thanks.
grab the pitchforks! Watch out @jhoang, they're coming for YOU!
grab the pitchforks! Watch out @jhoang, they're coming for YOU!
and you're next!
Jhoang just responded to my pm so he's still here
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Jhoang just responded to my pm so he's still here
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Hey guys,
I'm gonna have a long explanation here soon.
Hey guys,
I'm gonna have a long explanation here soon.
I also need a reissue of invoice or I will also be disputing 100%. The lack of communication is extremely concerning, as you were very vocal in the beginning of this GB when you were collecting $. I would expect communication to be consistent throughout the entire process - I remember the original shipping date was stated to be in May, we are now 3 months past the expected ETA. I don't think going MIA for days/ weeks at the most crucial point of a GB is professionial.
Crossing my fingers for some type of good explanation along with clear and concise steps that will be taken to fulfill this order to everyone in the GB in a timely manner. And will also be waiting for the cancellation and reissue of the PayPal invoice, or sadly I will dispute this charge.
Hey jhoang, don't worry about refunding & re-issuing my invoice, I'm not particularly worried.
I'm happy to see people calming down on this one. I almost broke out the bullhorn more than once and now I’m just gonna let’r rip… IMO Jhoang has not given us a reason enough to go as far as asking him to refund/reprocess invoices. He has been very communicative (yes with bouts of radio-silence but that's every GB), given us tons of pictures, acceptable explanations for late arrivals, shown us the manufacturing process and been overly honest about everything. I am somewhat appalled at the mob mentality here.
Can you imagine if everyone demanded to be refunded just for Jhoang to be paid back? I mean the money is spent, the boards are done. That means he would have to come up with tens of thousands of dollars just for reprocessing purposes. Not to mention the logistics of doing that via international banking systems. What about if a few people who get the "refund" decide to ditch the GB? What would that mean for Jhoang and the boards that go unpaid for? I have seen firsthand the issues with moving money from the western world to Asia and it's not pretty. I don't doubt the screen shots and claims Jhoang has posted of his PayPal even in the slightest. And if people start opening PayPal cases, that would be worse. PayPal basically demands that 100% of the money in question gets put on hold until the buyer deems the case settled. This means if all the funds are not already in his account then his bank accounts would be frozen and god knows what else. PayPal was NOT built with the group buy in mind and this act would be extremely unfair and should only be used in absolute fraud scenarios.
In the past five years of being part of this community I have seen it grow significantly during which I witnessed many group buys and can only think of a small handful that have gone wrong (none of which I was a part of thankfully). Money and personal finance is always a concern but we are also spending hundreds if not thousands a year on keyboards here… I don’t think any of us are dumpster diving for dinner anytime soon. It’s obviously important to be aware and stay on top of issues within a group buy but it’s another thing to start pointing fingers and making extraordinary demands without 100% concrete solid reason. I see a lot of new faces here and maybe making a distinction between a potential fraud scenario and a group buy that has simply taken a toll on a stressed-out leader comes with experience. Also, I’m afraid to say it but not all people may not be equipped to handle the risks/stress of being part of a group buy. It’s harsh, but it’s the truth. At the same time, again, I am certainly not blaming anyone here for looking out for themselves… Before making a jump from raising constructive, healthy awareness concerning miscommunications (as my good friends Roostrc0gburn and smittysteve did in their original posts – love those guys!) to demanding refunds we should scrutinize the evidences/situation a little more meticulously.
- jhoang was indeed very communicative at the start of the buy, but his updates became less and less frequent the deeper we got into the buy. even if he were to maintain his presence in the thread with just a 'no progress' post, people would have much less apprehension about the buy. as it is, radio silence for weeks on end is usually the first sign of a GB gone sour.
- the apprehension perhaps stem from what i can only guess at as a changing culture here. people are now much more wary of falling victim to another GON, Ivan, etc. (i don't agree with your assessment that only a small number of incidents have occurred). you can see very similar reactions in the Mech27-TKL GB when 27 vanished for a period of time. i don't think people's prudence is to blame here, bui rahter it is up to the GB organizer to dispel any doubts and fear the moment they appear, something jhoang/exclusive did not do a good job of imho.
- you make a good point about not jumping to conclusions without sufficient evidence. however, it is the LACK of evidence that causes people to make the leap in judgment here. when you're behind the GB end projection date by 3 months, and you've only let people know once that Paypal froze your money, with no further public updates about the situation or newly arisen difficulties (mainly talking about the plate fiasco here), it is understandable that people start fearing the worst. starting a new GB while leaving PMs unreplied (according to what some posters said) does NOT in any way restore buyers' confidence, in fact i have a niggling suspicion it might have the opposite effect. while it's easy for you to say that everyone should have more faith in the buy (in light of jhoang's update), it's not possible to show more understanding and sympathy when all we had to work with was what i posted above. edit: in fact i think everyone was very patient throughout the last few months, i recall reading no complaints during the may - early july period about the delays. it was just the E6 GB being opened coinciding with the expiration of paypal invoice dispute dates that spooked a number of buyers
So what you are saying is that when jhoang had lots of information to provide updates... he provided lots of updates... and when he had less information to provide... he provided fewer updates? because to me that sounds pretty normal.- he could have provided a lot more info imo. for example, we were never told how the plates would be fixed. from the screenshots you can see that he tried to contact his friend who did the CNC for weeks, to no avail. perhaps an update about that? it wasn't until days ago that people were still arguing if the plates actually went missing or not. you can also see from the screenshots that jhoang was very anxious about his friend's unresponsiveness. a mirror of the situation here perhaps..
I totally agree he could have saved himself a lot of trouble by doing a weekly "nothing new to report" update, but I'm not sure I understand what the complexity is here. He has provided updates whenever he had anything to report, which to me would indicate that if he has made no recent posts, he has nothing to report. Plus by my understanding he's been responding to all PMs just fine.
It is one thing to expect immediate response from Amazon... because amazon employees thousands of people to provide an immediate response, but just because that is what you are accustomed to, does NOT mean that should be the expectation. I feel like when you are doing orders on a time scale of months, a FEW days to respond is not really unreasonable. People have lives.
You have some odd expectations of GB runners tho. It is the job of the GB organizer to ensure the products purchased are produced/qc'd/packed/shipped, not hold the buyers hand and dispel any paranoia that they might encounter. Don't get me wrong, great communication IS important and a great asset for a GB organizer, but where is the line? What is enough communication? If the GB Organizer updates you every time they have ANYTHING to update you on, what is the benefit of getting updates when there is nothing to report? What are you even paranoid about? Do you think jhoang really wants thousands in paypal disputes so he can decorate his floor with TKL cases? This isn't like Ivan (he got me on miami nights) where the money was never spent. The cases already exist, the money is already gone.
But let's look at the recent timeline:
7/18 - Update that cases are being delivered
7/20 - Update that plates were wrong
8/10 - Update that plates have been remade and and are being anodized.
8/28 - Update regarding issue with shipping plates.
9/15 - Update regarding current state.
To me it looks like he's been pretty consistent and provided an update every 2-3 weeks (or whenever there was something to update people ABOUT).
PS You do understand that a "LACK of evidence" is the definition of insufficient evidence right?
Got any leftovers? Kind of want to buy one of these things...If he refunds and reissues invoices, i have a feeling a handful of people will just take that chance and back out lol
2. Paypal was terrible. They held 50% amount of money for 6 months or until this GB finished (Paypal needs me to prove). I have used my own money for running this Group Buy. http://i.imgur.com/peQ3yU9.jpg | Paypal reviewed my account and released 50% money after 1 month. This is the first reason why GB was delayed.
... I will re-new your invoices. But I need to make it one by one. Because all money are being held by Paypal. I cannot refund unless I transfer more money to my account.
2. Paypal was terrible. They held 50% amount of money for 6 months or until this GB finished (Paypal needs me to prove). I have used my own money for running this Group Buy. http://i.imgur.com/peQ3yU9.jpg | Paypal reviewed my account and released 50% money after 1 month. This is the first reason why GB was delayed.
... I will re-new your invoices. But I need to make it one by one. Because all money are being held by Paypal. I cannot refund unless I transfer more money to my account.
jhoang, firstly I understand. Second, as far as "2" goes above release this information next time. Finally, thank you for the last part I quoted about renewing invoices. We all want to see this GB as a success. A few of us may have gotten worried due to a lack of understanding about certain finer details. If I were in your position I would definitely feel overwhelmed. Go forward knowing that what's been happening on your end is understandable. This is your first GB, so let's all move forward with accepting what some may call errors and learn better ways to create stability, security, and generate confidence; it seems like you're already working to do so.
I'm not saying y'all shouldn't continue to critique, I'd vote for more constructive thoughts though, whether they be criticism or praise, since I'm fairly positive everyone involved in a GB want to see (all) GB's achieve their goals.
P.S. Does anyone know a system that works better for GB's than PayPal? I often see the holding of funds issue come up in many GB's. Is it simply unavoidable? If it's unavoidable, I think future GB organizers should factor this in and tell people up front.
For the Revo/Dr. D GB, RevoTeam issued new invoices and refunded the old ones after the new ones were paid. I would be willing to do that to keep PayPal buyer protection.I'm willing to do the same, I'd even be willing to pay the extra fees for shipping that weren't accounted for in the original invoice.
For the Revo/Dr. D GB, RevoTeam issued new invoices and refunded the old ones after the new ones were paid. I would be willing to do that to keep PayPal buyer protection.
I'm happy to see people calming down on this one. I almost broke out the bullhorn more than once and now I’m just gonna let’r rip… IMO Jhoang has not given us a reason enough to go as far as asking him to refund/reprocess invoices. He has been very communicative (yes with bouts of radio-silence but that's every GB), given us tons of pictures, acceptable explanations for late arrivals, shown us the manufacturing process and been overly honest about everything. I am somewhat appalled at the mob mentality here.
Can you imagine if everyone demanded to be refunded just for Jhoang to be paid back? I mean the money is spent, the boards are done. That means he would have to come up with tens of thousands of dollars just for reprocessing purposes. Not to mention the logistics of doing that via international banking systems. What about if a few people who get the "refund" decide to ditch the GB? What would that mean for Jhoang and the boards that go unpaid for? I have seen firsthand the issues with moving money from the western world to Asia and it's not pretty. I don't doubt the screen shots and claims Jhoang has posted of his PayPal even in the slightest. And if people start opening PayPal cases, that would be worse. PayPal basically demands that 100% of the money in question gets put on hold until the buyer deems the case settled. This means if all the funds are not already in his account then his bank accounts would be frozen and god knows what else. PayPal was NOT built with the group buy in mind and this act would be extremely unfair and should only be used in absolute fraud scenarios.
In the past five years of being part of this community I have seen it grow significantly during which I witnessed many group buys and can only think of a small handful that have gone wrong (none of which I was a part of thankfully). Money and personal finance is always a concern but we are also spending hundreds if not thousands a year on keyboards here… I don’t think any of us are dumpster diving for dinner anytime soon. It’s obviously important to be aware and stay on top of issues within a group buy but it’s another thing to start pointing fingers and making extraordinary demands without 100% concrete solid reason. I see a lot of new faces here and maybe making a distinction between a potential fraud scenario and a group buy that has simply taken a toll on a stressed-out leader comes with experience. Also, I’m afraid to say it but not all people may not be equipped to handle the risks/stress of being part of a group buy. It’s harsh, but it’s the truth. At the same time, again, I am certainly not blaming anyone here for looking out for themselves… Before making a jump from raising constructive, healthy awareness concerning miscommunications (as my good friends Roostrc0gburn and smittysteve did in their original posts – love those guys!) to demanding refunds we should scrutinize the evidences/situation a little more meticulously.
For the Revo/Dr. D GB, RevoTeam issued new invoices and refunded the old ones after the new ones were paid. I would be willing to do that to keep PayPal buyer protection.
I've been on this board for about a year and have participated in many group buys. I've been fortunate so far to not lose any cash on a buy that's gone south. In the short year or so that I've been in this community, I've seen it grow much larger. As community members become vendors and build businesses around these buys, buyers begin to expect a certain level of customer service. Perhaps this may be the case because we find these buys all through geekhack, regardless of whether they are vendor buys or not. But, people's expectations are changing. The question becomes are these expectations unreasonable?
Maybe GB runners can establish a communication contract / protocol early on so that these kinds of things don't happen. A large thrill of participating in a group buy for me is to be part of the whole process. It's very interesting how one of these keyboards get's built. I don't just spend 400+ dollars on a keyboard for a turnkey product. Regular communication could actually serve to make a buy a lot more fun. We are already willing to take on a certain amount of risk and wait months for a product to be built. Is it asking too much even for a first time GB runner to establish and adhere to a communication protocol?
BTW, I didn't realize that this was a first-time GB. Perhaps I missed it or I forgot. I don't know. I've got a lot of cash floating around in GB's right now, so some times it's hard to keep up with. But I actually think MORE communication is required for a first time GB than less.
whats going on with this? Did Jhoang get plates or not?
The package has been sent. Exclusive would receive the package in 2 days.
The package has been sent. Exclusive would receive the package in 2 days.
so, its been a week now... where are the plates?
Is it just me or did jhoang remove the GB timeline from the OP? Could've sworn there was a timeline given for the GB, with delivery date of april and stuff.
^ overwhelmed would be a great indicator to put E6-V2 on hold until this GB is completed... which didnt seem to be the case. :-\
Is it just me or did jhoang remove the GB timeline from the OP? Could've sworn there was a timeline given for the GB, with delivery date of april and stuff.
He did but don't worry, he forgot to remove it from the IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87166.0Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZbHxlV1.png)
Screenshotted for posterity as well ;)
I'll give jhoang benefit of the doubt (plus the claim from vari_mu) and won't request a refund/reinvoice to help keep additional work off of jhoang. Hope this helps get us our boards sooner!yea thats not how things work
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I'm sure giving him more work would make things go slowerI'll give jhoang benefit of the doubt (plus the claim from vari_mu) and won't request a refund/reinvoice to help keep additional work off of jhoang. Hope this helps get us our boards sooner!yea thats not how things work
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Is it just me or did jhoang remove the GB timeline from the OP? Could've sworn there was a timeline given for the GB, with delivery date of april and stuff.
He did but don't worry, he forgot to remove it from the IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87166.0Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZbHxlV1.png)
Screenshotted for posterity as well ;)
nice. wonder why he'd bother removing that from the OP. ;)
Because it's outdated?and people will only interpret it in a negative light given the context, so why bother indeed. also, if his goal was to keep the OP updated, why didn't he replace it with new info that pertains to the current state of things?
I fear that if enough people get refunds or disputes that will indeed kill this group buy. Dude is probably way stressed and overwhelmed with this group buy to add money issues and paypal crap that just might push him over the edge and pull the plug on this. I'm not worried too much about the money I understand other people might not have the type of disposable income I have but I really want this keyboard this is my endgame TKL so I really want to see this go through.
That being said with the delay of the GB, the current blackout on communication and the second GB started without this one completed or even have a target end date I get that people want to bail. I have faith in the GB leader and the involved parties so I'm going to hang back and see where we all are headed. I just wanted to post my thoughts on the PayPal disputes.
and pull the plug on this.i don't think this will happen
Had to file a dispute due to PP protection running out. RIP my dreams of an endgame white TKL. :(
Had to file a dispute due to PP protection running out. RIP my dreams of an endgame white TKL. :(
I did the same. JHuang was classy enough to refund quickly.
Had to file a dispute due to PP protection running out. RIP my dreams of an endgame white TKL. :(
I did the same. JHuang was classy enough to refund quickly.
I would much rather have the board than my refund, did you ask for a new invoice? I am hoping that he will re-invoice.
I honestly think the E6 group buy should be placed on hold until E8 is finished.
Out of curiosity, what is the process behind these boards? Do they get created and anodized in China then go to Vietnam for inspection then shipping?
I have faith in the E-Team, but I'm hoping E6 is handled with more care after seeing how all the tags were thrown into a box, all scratched up and etc.
Sure for it .is my poor packageI honestly think the E6 group buy should be placed on hold until E8 is finished.
Out of curiosity, what is the process behind these boards? Do they get created and anodized in China then go to Vietnam for inspection then shipping?
I have faith in the E-Team, but I'm hoping E6 is handled with more care after seeing how all the tags were thrown into a box, all scratched up and etc.
I honestly would like some sort of explanation from Elusive on the packing of those plates. I'm hoping he delegated that task to some intern who didn't know better...
LULSure for it .is my poor packageI honestly think the E6 group buy should be placed on hold until E8 is finished.
Out of curiosity, what is the process behind these boards? Do they get created and anodized in China then go to Vietnam for inspection then shipping?
I have faith in the E-Team, but I'm hoping E6 is handled with more care after seeing how all the tags were thrown into a box, all scratched up and etc.
I honestly would like some sort of explanation from Elusive on the packing of those plates. I'm hoping he delegated that task to some intern who didn't know better...
i do take my responsibility dude.
the question is not plate and nameplate cant be fixed .someone know it waht is the real issue
after this GB done .
i quit!
Sure for it .is my poor packageI honestly think the E6 group buy should be placed on hold until E8 is finished.
Out of curiosity, what is the process behind these boards? Do they get created and anodized in China then go to Vietnam for inspection then shipping?
I have faith in the E-Team, but I'm hoping E6 is handled with more care after seeing how all the tags were thrown into a box, all scratched up and etc.
It's all good, thanks for coming clean. Sounds like there is a lot to learn from this GB. Don't quit, just learn and move on and make the next thing even better (ie. E2-V6)
I honestly would like some sort of explanation from Elusive on the packing of those plates. I'm hoping he delegated that task to some intern who didn't know better...
i do take my responsibility dude.
the question is not plate and nameplate cant be fixed .someone know it waht is the real issue
after this GB done .
i quit!
Sure for it .is my poor packageI honestly think the E6 group buy should be placed on hold until E8 is finished.
Out of curiosity, what is the process behind these boards? Do they get created and anodized in China then go to Vietnam for inspection then shipping?
I have faith in the E-Team, but I'm hoping E6 is handled with more care after seeing how all the tags were thrown into a box, all scratched up and etc.
I honestly would like some sort of explanation from Elusive on the packing of those plates. I'm hoping he delegated that task to some intern who didn't know better...
i do take my responsibility dude.
the question is not plate and nameplate cant be fixed .someone know it waht is the real issue
after this GB done .
i quit!
Sure for it .is my poor packageI honestly think the E6 group buy should be placed on hold until E8 is finished.
Out of curiosity, what is the process behind these boards? Do they get created and anodized in China then go to Vietnam for inspection then shipping?
I have faith in the E-Team, but I'm hoping E6 is handled with more care after seeing how all the tags were thrown into a box, all scratched up and etc.
It's all good, thanks for coming clean. Sounds like there is a lot to learn from this GB. Don't quit, just learn and move on and make the next thing even better (ie. E2-V6)
I honestly would like some sort of explanation from Elusive on the packing of those plates. I'm hoping he delegated that task to some intern who didn't know better...
i do take my responsibility dude.
the question is not plate and nameplate cant be fixed .someone know it waht is the real issue
after this GB done .
i quit!
It's all good Excluisve, thank you for coming clean. It looks like this GB is a good learning experience for a lot of people involved. The best thing to do is learn from it and do even better in the next one (ie. E6-V2).
I still haven't received any tracking number from them so there is nothing I can do at the moment. I will sure let you guys know and start the re-anodizing process once I get the plates. These boards are my first products and I want them to be delivered safely as much as you guys
Thanks for the pics. Too bad the purple wasn't as rich as deep as the color samples showed. This color is not purple but lavender, a much lighter shade. It's probably only 1/2 as dark as it was supposed to be. Disappointing. Maybe I can try to find someone in the states to re anodize it for me. Maybe I'll just sell it on r/mm
I will anodizing when I get money from jhoang
My rest of money almost1.5k$
I will anodizing when I get money from jhoang
My rest of money almost1.5k$
so, we are waiting for jhoang to pay exclusive to reano the plates and remake a few nametags? is that the current status?
I will anodizing when I get money from jhoang
My rest of money almost1.5k$
so, we are waiting for jhoang to pay exclusive to reano the plates and remake a few nametags? is that the current status?
I think exclusive is implying here that he's paying out of pocket to have them reano'd, then sending them to jhoang to etch them.
Guys
i get my rest of money from jhoang
i will take plate to reano tomorrow
and will update here
thx all
Guys
i get my rest of money from jhoang
i will take plate to reano tomorrow
and will update here
thx all
Guys
i get my rest of money from jhoang
i will take plate to reano tomorrow
and will update here
thx all
Purple is done.
Purple is done.
Purple is done.
plate and nameplate ready done i will post pic here
it wast much time coz typhoon comes again and again
From 29/ 8 to now jhoang still not response me
I will sent plate to the address where I sent to the board
I recommend people take a look at smittysteve's post in the E6-V2 topic as it sheds some light on what's going on with the E8-V1 gb as well. I am more on the hopeful side and willing to stay in without any disputes at this point. A response from Jhoang would be really appreciated though considering he hasn't been active on geekhack since 8/20.
Oh boy... where to start. I do have some updates and information from both Jhoang and Exclusive, though I'm a bit unsure if proper to broadcast. However, I feel like we are all in this together, so I think it's best to share. There is no doubt that it's is a complicated situation at this point and I'm still sorting out what I think of it all. I'll try to lay out what I know and we can discuss. My utmost hope is that Jhoang joins us in the discussion because as I've encouraged him directly, short of him being involved with us in public on GH, all we can do is speculate and wonder and trade shards of information.
I exchanged some messages with Jhoang yesterday on Facebook. I've tried via Geekhack and email a few times with no success, so decided to try Facebook. I did have a nice series of responses from him there. I learned that E8-V1 should start shipping next week as he has plates and badges back from Exclusive. That's excellent news- I can't wait to see that board! Just a note here- when I have had responses from Jhoang, they have been pleasant and in my opinion, he means well. I do not believe Jhoang is scamming us. That is just my personal feeling (maybe mixed in with my pathological optimism and trust for other humans), but I think he wants to make keyboards, not run off with our money.
The less good news is that his PayPal is very frozen, as you might expect with the amount of contested charges on the E8-V1. (FWIW, I don't fault anyone for contesting that either- we have been left in the dark with no or wrong information again and again.) Due to that, Exclusive has yet to be paid for the E6-V2 project. Here, I am really confused. Exclusive has shared that he's making the E6 for Chinese GB anyway, so he can make the E6 for us too. I have paid for my E6-V2 and to be honest, I don't want or care about any drama or who does what, I just want the frigging board- it's stunning. So, I am considering contesting that payment and re-paying Exclusive directly for the board. However, Jhoang has said that he is the designer of the boards and Exclusive is the manufacturer. I hesitate to share this, because it's all really unclear to me. I've asked some additional questions around this... In some ways, it would make sense to reorganize the buy with Exclusive based on the communication history of Jhoang vs. Exclusive. But if Jhoang is the designer, then we need him, I think??
I for one am still very willing to trust Jhoang on both buys. Call me crazy, but I am. He has not run the buys well, again, just my opinion, but when you look at Revo, Kin, Yuktsi, LZ, Duck (via Elton)- other boards at similar price points, I also expect some professionalism from the runners (though no one is immune to GB bumps). It would be hard to argue that we have seen a steady hand in leading the buy to date from Jhoang, but heck, I want to see him get there and do better and I'm willing to leave my money in his hands as a sign of faith I trust him to improve those aspects of keyboard making/ selling. Everyone should make their own call regarding that decision and my personal caveat there is that I need to hear from Jhoang in public channels to hold on to any of my faith and keep my money. Without his re-reappearance, I'm afraid I'm out too and will either look to work with Exclusive directly or move on to the next board.
Sorry if I've shared too much opinion or rambled, but I hope it helps everyone understand where I believe these buys are currently at.
Your turn, Jhoang. :)
I have no remorse for the people that paid for an E6. They knew what they were getting into - or at least should have looked at this mess first besides rolling that dice.
I have no remorse for the people that paid for an E6. They knew what they were getting into - or at least should have looked at this mess first besides rolling that dice.
I recommend people take a look at smittysteve's post in the E6-V2 topic as it sheds some light on what's going on with the E8-V1 gb as well. I am more on the hopeful side and willing to stay in without any disputes at this point. A response from Jhoang would be really appreciated though considering he hasn't been active on geekhack since 8/20.
I'll put it here for ease: (quote from smittysteve on other board)QuoteOh boy... where to start. I do have some updates and information from both Jhoang and Exclusive, though I'm a bit unsure if proper to broadcast. However, I feel like we are all in this together, so I think it's best to share. There is no doubt that it's is a complicated situation at this point and I'm still sorting out what I think of it all. I'll try to lay out what I know and we can discuss. My utmost hope is that Jhoang joins us in the discussion because as I've encouraged him directly, short of him being involved with us in public on GH, all we can do is speculate and wonder and trade shards of information.
I exchanged some messages with Jhoang yesterday on Facebook. I've tried via Geekhack and email a few times with no success, so decided to try Facebook. I did have a nice series of responses from him there. I learned that E8-V1 should start shipping next week as he has plates and badges back from Exclusive. That's excellent news- I can't wait to see that board! Just a note here- when I have had responses from Jhoang, they have been pleasant and in my opinion, he means well. I do not believe Jhoang is scamming us. That is just my personal feeling (maybe mixed in with my pathological optimism and trust for other humans), but I think he wants to make keyboards, not run off with our money.
The less good news is that his PayPal is very frozen, as you might expect with the amount of contested charges on the E8-V1. (FWIW, I don't fault anyone for contesting that either- we have been left in the dark with no or wrong information again and again.) Due to that, Exclusive has yet to be paid for the E6-V2 project. Here, I am really confused. Exclusive has shared that he's making the E6 for Chinese GB anyway, so he can make the E6 for us too. I have paid for my E6-V2 and to be honest, I don't want or care about any drama or who does what, I just want the frigging board- it's stunning. So, I am considering contesting that payment and re-paying Exclusive directly for the board. However, Jhoang has said that he is the designer of the boards and Exclusive is the manufacturer. I hesitate to share this, because it's all really unclear to me. I've asked some additional questions around this... In some ways, it would make sense to reorganize the buy with Exclusive based on the communication history of Jhoang vs. Exclusive. But if Jhoang is the designer, then we need him, I think??
I for one am still very willing to trust Jhoang on both buys. Call me crazy, but I am. He has not run the buys well, again, just my opinion, but when you look at Revo, Kin, Yuktsi, LZ, Duck (via Elton)- other boards at similar price points, I also expect some professionalism from the runners (though no one is immune to GB bumps). It would be hard to argue that we have seen a steady hand in leading the buy to date from Jhoang, but heck, I want to see him get there and do better and I'm willing to leave my money in his hands as a sign of faith I trust him to improve those aspects of keyboard making/ selling. Everyone should make their own call regarding that decision and my personal caveat there is that I need to hear from Jhoang in public channels to hold on to any of my faith and keep my money. Without his re-reappearance, I'm afraid I'm out too and will either look to work with Exclusive directly or move on to the next board.
Sorry if I've shared too much opinion or rambled, but I hope it helps everyone understand where I believe these buys are currently at.
Your turn, Jhoang. :)
plate and nameplate shipped to jhoang .
all plate re anode and almost80%nameplate re anode
nameplate not all need re anode saw the pic below
plate and nameplate shipped to jhoang .
all plate re anode and almost80%nameplate re anode
nameplate not all need re anode saw the pic below
not yetplate and nameplate shipped to jhoang .
all plate re anode and almost80%nameplate re anode
nameplate not all need re anode saw the pic below
Heard anything from Jhoang yet?
excluisve, thank you very much for the updates from your end!You are welcome.
Please check your order here: https://goo.gl/ghB1IL (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL) to see if there is any mistake before invoices are going out!
claim finally went through, and got my refund. it really sucks to have to had gone down this route, as i placed a lot of faith with jhoang and the delivery of these boards. part of me still thinks they'll come in sooner or later, but this was too much money to wait for a "what if" scenario.
good luck to the rest of you
claim finally went through, and got my refund. it really sucks to have to had gone down this route, as i placed a lot of faith with jhoang and the delivery of these boards. part of me still thinks they'll come in sooner or later, but this was too much money to wait for a "what if" scenario.
good luck to the rest of you
Did johang ship anything to you. I'm having like most people problems with the E6-V2 group buy.
claim finally went through, and got my refund. it really sucks to have to had gone down this route, as i placed a lot of faith with jhoang and the delivery of these boards. part of me still thinks they'll come in sooner or later, but this was too much money to wait for a "what if" scenario.
good luck to the rest of you
Did johang ship anything to you. I'm having like most people problems with the E6-V2 group buy.
Oh dear. You might want to read the other 12 pages above about how he has gone silent and no one has received anything.
claim finally went through, and got my refund. it really sucks to have to had gone down this route, as i placed a lot of faith with jhoang and the delivery of these boards. part of me still thinks they'll come in sooner or later, but this was too much money to wait for a "what if" scenario.
good luck to the rest of you
Did johang ship anything to you. I'm having like most people problems with the E6-V2 group buy.
plates and nameplates were shipped to jhoang approximately 10 days ago. since jhoang already has all the other components in his possesion, there is no reason for exclusive to send the plates anywhere else. only thing jhoang needs to do now is to assemble and/or ship the orders, but it looks like he cancelled the assembly plan and doesn't currently have the funds to ship out the boards, if my intepretation of his silence is correct. he's went back so many times on his words that even i no longer trust in him at this point
please
please
I think that if we don't get another update within the next week, I'm probably going to back out of this GB...
Hi everyone, my friend just got it a few hours ago
In Vietnam, our community has had a discussion about the E8-V1 GB this evening. I heard from my friends that Jhoang had some personal problems (maybe health problems), even his friends could not contact him and he has transferred all the work to a team member, but this guy is very busy recently. He is a prestige in our community and I hope you guys can give him more time and trust him. Many thank
In Vietnam, our community has had a discussion about the E8-V1 GB this evening. I heard from my friends that Jhoang had some personal problems (maybe health problems), even his friends could not contact him and he has transferred all the work to a team member, but this guy is very busy recently. He is a prestige in our community and I hope you guys can give him more time and trust him. Many thank
Could you perhaps post images of the threads from your community? Any evidence of this would be nice. I feel that a lot of us - even those who didn't want to doubt jhoang - are sitting on the fence at this point. If you have any info of this "prestige" team member, that'd be great.
everyone, are u ready? let's prepare switch and keycapLooks good. Did you assemble this yourself or did you get their assembly service?
thank. I get their assembly service. He's running this GB instead of Jhoang and he's trying his best to ship this boardeveryone, are u ready? let's prepare switch and keycapLooks good. Did you assemble this yourself or did you get their assembly service?
I understand if Jhoang has issues going on his real life, but how hard is it to come in here type a few sentences, let us know who's going to be responsible going forward. After this update, I still don't have any confidence. A lot of the stuff seems like hearsay, I haven't see proof of this gb getting back on track.no more hearsay because i got my E8, on my bed, i think im going to hold it tonight
I understand if Jhoang has issues going on his real life, but how hard is it to come in here type a few sentences, let us know who's going to be responsible going forward. After this update, I still don't have any confidence. A lot of the stuff seems like hearsay, I haven't see proof of this gb getting back on track.no more hearsay because i got my E8, on my bed, i think im going to hold it tonight
everything is ready to ship except Nameplate, he's engraving nameplate, too much nameplate (1 order 1 board but 8 nameplate)
this board has a lot of options so take time for sorting because he does it alone, poor him
listen to me, prepare sw and keycap
I understand if Jhoang has issues going on his real life, but how hard is it to come in here type a few sentences, let us know who's going to be responsible going forward. After this update, I still don't have any confidence. A lot of the stuff seems like hearsay, I haven't see proof of this gb getting back on track.no more hearsay because i got my E8, on my bed, i think im going to hold it tonight
everything is ready to ship except Nameplate, he's engraving nameplate, too much nameplate (1 order 1 board but 8 nameplate)
this board has a lot of options so take time for sorting because he does it alone, poor him
listen to me, prepare sw and keycap
https://imgur.com/a/hFN2K
Hi all. My name is Hung
A man on discord ask me to post to Vietnam Mechkeys community about this group-buy. I posted it tomorrow and many comment say: "dont worry". Last night, a man in this team (the team hold this group-buy) sent me these pics and tell me he will ship in Vietnam in one or two week and then outside Vietnam. He said me told everybody dont worry.
This group buy does not involve Hung, Jelly Key. The man ask me to post is a member of Jelly Key discord. All infomation i cant verify, so i only can tell you what the man in this team told me & the pics.
Thank you & sorry about my englishShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/K5AI05a.jpg)
https://imgur.com/a/hFN2K
Hi all. My name is Hung
A man on discord ask me to post to Vietnam Mechkeys community about this group-buy. I posted it tomorrow and many comment say: "dont worry". Last night, a man in this team (the team hold this group-buy) sent me these pics and tell me he will ship in Vietnam in one or two week and then outside Vietnam. He said me told everybody dont worry.
This group buy does not involve Hung, Jelly Key. The man ask me to post is a member of Jelly Key discord. All infomation i cant verify, so i only can tell you what the man in this team told me & the pics.
Thank you & sorry about my englishShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/K5AI05a.jpg)
Thank you Hung for this update! This brings a lot more confidence in those participating in the groupbuy!
I only want to help if i can, because i know the miss infomation only made everything not good. Sometime it not wrong, but the customer dont think that. It is personal.thank you! i hope the current runner will come here himself to answer questions. for example, since the assembly service is still happening, i'll need to know how, when, and how much to pay for the rest of my order
I have a question for Exclusive. How come you have taken over the groupbuy for the E6-V2 to make sure people get what they paid for but have not done it for this buy which was first? Also do you know the person who has taken over this GB, have you been touch with that person? I'm not trying to attack you or anything I'm just wondering.....
Hi everyone, I would like to make some huge update regarding the current situation of this GB
* First thing first, we should clarify who E-Team are. Basically jhoang, me and exclusive (know as exc) for short. We are not really a 3-man-show but 3 different entities coming together through QQ chat and such. E8 was originally designed and manufactured by exc. I and jhoang were like the first two participant and felt that the board was outstanding, why not going for a GB. The E-Team and E8-V1 name were jhoang’s idea. The whole operation of GB, from opening google form, collecting money and ordering are just between jhoang and exec, I was totally not involved. I’m only in charge of assembling E8-V1 for the price I have always been offering others. I consider myself as an outsource service provider. Also, I take care of the logistic from exc to jhoang.
* Why E8-V1 GB was delayed? This is the first GB ever for the team so there were a lot of unforeseen circumstances. First of all, the money was held by Paypal. The manufacturing process was delayed for 2 months due to the lack of fund. Then, jhoang had to use his own money to pay exc so the boards could go into production.
- Then, there was a flaw in plate design. Compare with the prototype, the final version got a lot of revisions by exc, one of them led to the position of the stabilisers to be a bit off. It made the metal stick touches the plate, causing unwanted sound as well as affecting the typing experience. Moreover, as exc already mentioned, due to the packaging, the name plates were scratched. The time to fix the plate and re-anodise the name plate took longer than expected as well. The plan was 2-3 weeks but ended up taking 2 months.
- After receiving the plates, I also realised that there was a little problem with the PCB causing the left Windows to malfunction. This one can be easily fixed but takes up a lot of time since each and every PCB has to be thoroughly checked.
* The status of the GB: all the parts of E8-V1 are readily at my warehouse and can be considered ready for shipment. The most tedious and time-consuming part now is engraving the name plate as ordered. I will sort the orders out as per the original list of participants (link (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL)), which is always published. I also had the list of those that need to be assembled (link (http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem)). For Vietnamese orders, I have already sorted them out because there are not many and all of them will be free shipped. The sorting for international orders will be done accordingly but the shipping will be on hold until jhoang provide me with the new list. The assembly, after getting confirmation from jhoang will take 2 days for a non-tuned board and 5 days for those that need tuning. The order will be according to the position of your order.
* Main problem: I do not have the list of people who are still keen to stick with our GB and those who have already backed out through Paypal dispute. I also don’t know who paid jhoang for assembly service and who did not. And above all, I don’t have the money to assemble as well as send out your boards. I have yet to receive a single penny from jhoang.
* About jhoang: I still haven’t been able to get in touch with him to get the necessary information as well as money (as if he wants me to take care of the rest of the GB). The last thing I know, and for sure is that there is around $18,000 held up by Paypal in jhoang’s account (before the E6-V2 GB took place). Even now, I don’t think Paypal has released the money so I believe that jhoang will have to use his own money to pay up for the upcoming costs of this GB.
* So why E8-V1 GB is struggling? As I once posted and you all know, jhoang has not been communicating, making things even worse. There are even more problems as follow:
- There are too many options for just one keyboard, leading to a lot more questions than expected.
- Plate problem was not of a big deal but the time to fix it was. I do know some GB where the plates had more problems than this but the GB organiser ignored them and send out anyway, keeping it in the dark from participants.
- From the perspective of some people that I discussed it with, the PCB problem was not a big deal neither. Anyone who could assemble a board by himself can fix it, but I personally don’t believe so.
- The lack of faith from GB participants – this could be answered by yourselves.
P/S: The statements above doesn’t mean that I will be officially step up and take over this GB. What I am doing is just to help my friend, jhoang as well as all those who still have faith in our E8-V1 GB or moreover, all the keyboard lovers. My English is not good, I don’t have much time to log in GH regularly and I really can’t get familiar with the PM system of this forum so if you have any question, feel free to post a reply here. If you want to ask something more familiar, just drop me an email at eteam@kuang2.net
P/S 2: I do believe that those who backed out from the E8-V1 GB please spare jhoang and those who are still keep the faith some breathing room. The less of your pitchforks, Paypal dispute and such, the quicker E8-V1 arrive at your mailbox.
P/S 3: About E6-V2, I will give exc all my design, and ask jhoang to give him all information and money for making it faster.
MoreHi everyone, I would like to make some huge update regarding the current situation of this GB
* First thing first, we should clarify who E-Team are. Basically jhoang, me and exclusive (know as exc) for short. We are not really a 3-man-show but 3 different entities coming together through QQ chat and such. E8 was originally designed and manufactured by exc. I and jhoang were like the first two participant and felt that the board was outstanding, why not going for a GB. The E-Team and E8-V1 name were jhoang’s idea. The whole operation of GB, from opening google form, collecting money and ordering are just between jhoang and exec, I was totally not involved. I’m only in charge of assembling E8-V1 for the price I have always been offering others. I consider myself as an outsource service provider. Also, I take care of the logistic from exc to jhoang.
* Why E8-V1 GB was delayed? This is the first GB ever for the team so there were a lot of unforeseen circumstances. First of all, the money was held by Paypal. The manufacturing process was delayed for 2 months due to the lack of fund. Then, jhoang had to use his own money to pay exc so the boards could go into production.
- Then, there was a flaw in plate design. Compare with the prototype, the final version got a lot of revisions by exc, one of them led to the position of the stabilisers to be a bit off. It made the metal stick touches the plate, causing unwanted sound as well as affecting the typing experience. Moreover, as exc already mentioned, due to the packaging, the name plates were scratched. The time to fix the plate and re-anodise the name plate took longer than expected as well. The plan was 2-3 weeks but ended up taking 2 months.
- After receiving the plates, I also realised that there was a little problem with the PCB causing the left Windows to malfunction. This one can be easily fixed but takes up a lot of time since each and every PCB has to be thoroughly checked.
* The status of the GB: all the parts of E8-V1 are readily at my warehouse and can be considered ready for shipment. The most tedious and time-consuming part now is engraving the name plate as ordered. I will sort the orders out as per the original list of participants (link (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL)), which is always published. I also had the list of those that need to be assembled (link (http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem)). For Vietnamese orders, I have already sorted them out because there are not many and all of them will be free shipped. The sorting for international orders will be done accordingly but the shipping will be on hold until jhoang provide me with the new list. The assembly, after getting confirmation from jhoang will take 2 days for a non-tuned board and 5 days for those that need tuning. The order will be according to the position of your order.
* Main problem: I do not have the list of people who are still keen to stick with our GB and those who have already backed out through Paypal dispute. I also don’t know who paid jhoang for assembly service and who did not. And above all, I don’t have the money to assemble as well as send out your boards. I have yet to receive a single penny from jhoang.
* About jhoang: I still haven’t been able to get in touch with him to get the necessary information as well as money (as if he wants me to take care of the rest of the GB). The last thing I know, and for sure is that there is around $18,000 held up by Paypal in jhoang’s account (before the E6-V2 GB took place). Even now, I don’t think Paypal has released the money so I believe that jhoang will have to use his own money to pay up for the upcoming costs of this GB.
* So why E8-V1 GB is struggling? As I once posted and you all know, jhoang has not been communicating, making things even worse. There are even more problems as follow:
- There are too many options for just one keyboard, leading to a lot more questions than expected.
- Plate problem was not of a big deal but the time to fix it was. I do know some GB where the plates had more problems than this but the GB organiser ignored them and send out anyway, keeping it in the dark from participants.
- From the perspective of some people that I discussed it with, the PCB problem was not a big deal neither. Anyone who could assemble a board by himself can fix it, but I personally don’t believe so.
- The lack of faith from GB participants – this could be answered by yourselves.
P/S: The statements above doesn’t mean that I will be officially step up and take over this GB. What I am doing is just to help my friend, jhoang as well as all those who still have faith in our E8-V1 GB or moreover, all the keyboard lovers. My English is not good, I don’t have much time to log in GH regularly and I really can’t get familiar with the PM system of this forum so if you have any question, feel free to post a reply here. If you want to ask something more familiar, just drop me an email at eteam@kuang2.net
P/S 2: I do believe that those who backed out from the E8-V1 GB please spare jhoang and those who are still keep the faith some breathing room. The less of your pitchforks, Paypal dispute and such, the quicker E8-V1 arrive at your mailbox.
P/S 3: About E6-V2, I will give exc all my design, and ask jhoang to give him all information and money for making it faster.
MoreHi everyone, I would like to make some huge update regarding the current situation of this GB
* First thing first, we should clarify who E-Team are. Basically jhoang, me and exclusive (know as exc) for short. We are not really a 3-man-show but 3 different entities coming together through QQ chat and such. E8 was originally designed and manufactured by exc. I and jhoang were like the first two participant and felt that the board was outstanding, why not going for a GB. The E-Team and E8-V1 name were jhoang’s idea. The whole operation of GB, from opening google form, collecting money and ordering are just between jhoang and exec, I was totally not involved. I’m only in charge of assembling E8-V1 for the price I have always been offering others. I consider myself as an outsource service provider. Also, I take care of the logistic from exc to jhoang.
* Why E8-V1 GB was delayed? This is the first GB ever for the team so there were a lot of unforeseen circumstances. First of all, the money was held by Paypal. The manufacturing process was delayed for 2 months due to the lack of fund. Then, jhoang had to use his own money to pay exc so the boards could go into production.
- Then, there was a flaw in plate design. Compare with the prototype, the final version got a lot of revisions by exc, one of them led to the position of the stabilisers to be a bit off. It made the metal stick touches the plate, causing unwanted sound as well as affecting the typing experience. Moreover, as exc already mentioned, due to the packaging, the name plates were scratched. The time to fix the plate and re-anodise the name plate took longer than expected as well. The plan was 2-3 weeks but ended up taking 2 months.
- After receiving the plates, I also realised that there was a little problem with the PCB causing the left Windows to malfunction. This one can be easily fixed but takes up a lot of time since each and every PCB has to be thoroughly checked.
* The status of the GB: all the parts of E8-V1 are readily at my warehouse and can be considered ready for shipment. The most tedious and time-consuming part now is engraving the name plate as ordered. I will sort the orders out as per the original list of participants (link (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL)), which is always published. I also had the list of those that need to be assembled (link (http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem)). For Vietnamese orders, I have already sorted them out because there are not many and all of them will be free shipped. The sorting for international orders will be done accordingly but the shipping will be on hold until jhoang provide me with the new list. The assembly, after getting confirmation from jhoang will take 2 days for a non-tuned board and 5 days for those that need tuning. The order will be according to the position of your order.
* Main problem: I do not have the list of people who are still keen to stick with our GB and those who have already backed out through Paypal dispute. I also don’t know who paid jhoang for assembly service and who did not. And above all, I don’t have the money to assemble as well as send out your boards. I have yet to receive a single penny from jhoang.
* About jhoang: I still haven’t been able to get in touch with him to get the necessary information as well as money (as if he wants me to take care of the rest of the GB). The last thing I know, and for sure is that there is around $18,000 held up by Paypal in jhoang’s account (before the E6-V2 GB took place). Even now, I don’t think Paypal has released the money so I believe that jhoang will have to use his own money to pay up for the upcoming costs of this GB.
* So why E8-V1 GB is struggling? As I once posted and you all know, jhoang has not been communicating, making things even worse. There are even more problems as follow:
- There are too many options for just one keyboard, leading to a lot more questions than expected.
- Plate problem was not of a big deal but the time to fix it was. I do know some GB where the plates had more problems than this but the GB organiser ignored them and send out anyway, keeping it in the dark from participants.
- From the perspective of some people that I discussed it with, the PCB problem was not a big deal neither. Anyone who could assemble a board by himself can fix it, but I personally don’t believe so.
- The lack of faith from GB participants – this could be answered by yourselves.
P/S: The statements above doesn’t mean that I will be officially step up and take over this GB. What I am doing is just to help my friend, jhoang as well as all those who still have faith in our E8-V1 GB or moreover, all the keyboard lovers. My English is not good, I don’t have much time to log in GH regularly and I really can’t get familiar with the PM system of this forum so if you have any question, feel free to post a reply here. If you want to ask something more familiar, just drop me an email at eteam@kuang2.net
P/S 2: I do believe that those who backed out from the E8-V1 GB please spare jhoang and those who are still keep the faith some breathing room. The less of your pitchforks, Paypal dispute and such, the quicker E8-V1 arrive at your mailbox.
P/S 3: About E6-V2, I will give exc all my design, and ask jhoang to give him all information and money for making it faster.
So much ping pong going on in this groupbuy. I have been in longer groupbuy and I understand the risks and unforeseeable roadblocks involved in Groupbuy. But this is the first time since sprit I have seen a runner who is as disrespectful as jhoang. You have problem, I get it, just say something and I will wait. Instead, you bounced around your responsibilities to your so-called friends, first it was exclusive, now kuang2. Even the way you did it was in such a half-ass way. You wanted kuang2 to ship/assemble the board but you have yet to provide him with the shipping list or the assembly service list, like what the ****? So what if kuang2 now has all the boards, kuang2 even stated that he doesnt know what to do with them.
At this point I am over this buy, I just want the stupid board. I have never disputed with paypal claims because like I said, I understand the risk of GB, but I cannot tolerate undisciplined and half-ass organizer. I no longer desire the engravings or whatever ****ery related to this board.
Kuang2 if you read this I want you to know that I will pay for the extra shipping cost, just ship me my ****ing board, no engravings or any extra service needed. PM me directly and I will provide you my address and ppal info for the shipping invoice. Thank you.
Mình rất thất vọng với cái groupbuy này. Nếu các bạn thích chơi bóng bàn đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau thì không nên làm groupbuy quốc tế. Muốn ra làm ăn quốc tế thì phải có tiếng nói, không nên giở trò lèm nhèm đánh đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau được. Trong vòng cả 8 tháng nay mình không nói một câu nào, hay là đòi tiền lại trên paypal bởi mình nghỉ là người Việt Nam với nhau nên tin tưởng gà nhà.
Mình sẵn sàng trả tiền cước phí lần thứ hai để Kuang2 ship cái bàn phím của mình. Kuang2 nếu đọc được thì gởi PM để lấy địa chỉ. Cám ơn.
MoreHi everyone, I would like to make some huge update regarding the current situation of this GB
* First thing first, we should clarify who E-Team are. Basically jhoang, me and exclusive (know as exc) for short. We are not really a 3-man-show but 3 different entities coming together through QQ chat and such. E8 was originally designed and manufactured by exc. I and jhoang were like the first two participant and felt that the board was outstanding, why not going for a GB. The E-Team and E8-V1 name were jhoang’s idea. The whole operation of GB, from opening google form, collecting money and ordering are just between jhoang and exec, I was totally not involved. I’m only in charge of assembling E8-V1 for the price I have always been offering others. I consider myself as an outsource service provider. Also, I take care of the logistic from exc to jhoang.
* Why E8-V1 GB was delayed? This is the first GB ever for the team so there were a lot of unforeseen circumstances. First of all, the money was held by Paypal. The manufacturing process was delayed for 2 months due to the lack of fund. Then, jhoang had to use his own money to pay exc so the boards could go into production.
- Then, there was a flaw in plate design. Compare with the prototype, the final version got a lot of revisions by exc, one of them led to the position of the stabilisers to be a bit off. It made the metal stick touches the plate, causing unwanted sound as well as affecting the typing experience. Moreover, as exc already mentioned, due to the packaging, the name plates were scratched. The time to fix the plate and re-anodise the name plate took longer than expected as well. The plan was 2-3 weeks but ended up taking 2 months.
- After receiving the plates, I also realised that there was a little problem with the PCB causing the left Windows to malfunction. This one can be easily fixed but takes up a lot of time since each and every PCB has to be thoroughly checked.
* The status of the GB: all the parts of E8-V1 are readily at my warehouse and can be considered ready for shipment. The most tedious and time-consuming part now is engraving the name plate as ordered. I will sort the orders out as per the original list of participants (link (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL)), which is always published. I also had the list of those that need to be assembled (link (http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem)). For Vietnamese orders, I have already sorted them out because there are not many and all of them will be free shipped. The sorting for international orders will be done accordingly but the shipping will be on hold until jhoang provide me with the new list. The assembly, after getting confirmation from jhoang will take 2 days for a non-tuned board and 5 days for those that need tuning. The order will be according to the position of your order.
* Main problem: I do not have the list of people who are still keen to stick with our GB and those who have already backed out through Paypal dispute. I also don’t know who paid jhoang for assembly service and who did not. And above all, I don’t have the money to assemble as well as send out your boards. I have yet to receive a single penny from jhoang.
* About jhoang: I still haven’t been able to get in touch with him to get the necessary information as well as money (as if he wants me to take care of the rest of the GB). The last thing I know, and for sure is that there is around $18,000 held up by Paypal in jhoang’s account (before the E6-V2 GB took place). Even now, I don’t think Paypal has released the money so I believe that jhoang will have to use his own money to pay up for the upcoming costs of this GB.
* So why E8-V1 GB is struggling? As I once posted and you all know, jhoang has not been communicating, making things even worse. There are even more problems as follow:
- There are too many options for just one keyboard, leading to a lot more questions than expected.
- Plate problem was not of a big deal but the time to fix it was. I do know some GB where the plates had more problems than this but the GB organiser ignored them and send out anyway, keeping it in the dark from participants.
- From the perspective of some people that I discussed it with, the PCB problem was not a big deal neither. Anyone who could assemble a board by himself can fix it, but I personally don’t believe so.
- The lack of faith from GB participants – this could be answered by yourselves.
P/S: The statements above doesn’t mean that I will be officially step up and take over this GB. What I am doing is just to help my friend, jhoang as well as all those who still have faith in our E8-V1 GB or moreover, all the keyboard lovers. My English is not good, I don’t have much time to log in GH regularly and I really can’t get familiar with the PM system of this forum so if you have any question, feel free to post a reply here. If you want to ask something more familiar, just drop me an email at eteam@kuang2.net
P/S 2: I do believe that those who backed out from the E8-V1 GB please spare jhoang and those who are still keep the faith some breathing room. The less of your pitchforks, Paypal dispute and such, the quicker E8-V1 arrive at your mailbox.
P/S 3: About E6-V2, I will give exc all my design, and ask jhoang to give him all information and money for making it faster.
So much ping pong going on in this groupbuy. I have been in longer groupbuy and I understand the risks and unforeseeable roadblocks involved in Groupbuy. But this is the first time since sprit I have seen a runner who is as disrespectful as jhoang. You have problem, I get it, just say something and I will wait. Instead, you bounced around your responsibilities to your so-called friends, first it was exclusive, now kuang2. Even the way you did it was in such a half-ass way. You wanted kuang2 to ship/assemble the board but you have yet to provide him with the shipping list or the assembly service list, like what the ****? So what if kuang2 now has all the boards, kuang2 even stated that he doesnt know what to do with them.
At this point I am over this buy, I just want the stupid board. I have never disputed with paypal claims because like I said, I understand the risk of GB, but I cannot tolerate undisciplined and half-ass organizer. I no longer desire the engravings or whatever ****ery related to this board.
Kuang2 if you read this I want you to know that I will pay for the extra shipping cost, just ship me my ****ing board, no engravings or any extra service needed. PM me directly and I will provide you my address and ppal info for the shipping invoice. Thank you.
Mình rất thất vọng với cái groupbuy này. Nếu các bạn thích chơi bóng bàn đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau thì không nên làm groupbuy quốc tế. Muốn ra làm ăn quốc tế thì phải có tiếng nói, không nên giở trò lèm nhèm đánh đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau được. Trong vòng cả 8 tháng nay mình không nói một câu nào, hay là đòi tiền lại trên paypal bởi mình nghỉ là người Việt Nam với nhau nên tin tưởng gà nhà.
Mình sẵn sàng trả tiền cước phí lần thứ hai để Kuang2 ship cái bàn phím của mình. Kuang2 nếu đọc được thì gởi PM để lấy địa chỉ. Cám ơn.
MoreHi everyone, I would like to make some huge update regarding the current situation of this GB
* First thing first, we should clarify who E-Team are. Basically jhoang, me and exclusive (know as exc) for short. We are not really a 3-man-show but 3 different entities coming together through QQ chat and such. E8 was originally designed and manufactured by exc. I and jhoang were like the first two participant and felt that the board was outstanding, why not going for a GB. The E-Team and E8-V1 name were jhoang’s idea. The whole operation of GB, from opening google form, collecting money and ordering are just between jhoang and exec, I was totally not involved. I’m only in charge of assembling E8-V1 for the price I have always been offering others. I consider myself as an outsource service provider. Also, I take care of the logistic from exc to jhoang.
* Why E8-V1 GB was delayed? This is the first GB ever for the team so there were a lot of unforeseen circumstances. First of all, the money was held by Paypal. The manufacturing process was delayed for 2 months due to the lack of fund. Then, jhoang had to use his own money to pay exc so the boards could go into production.
- Then, there was a flaw in plate design. Compare with the prototype, the final version got a lot of revisions by exc, one of them led to the position of the stabilisers to be a bit off. It made the metal stick touches the plate, causing unwanted sound as well as affecting the typing experience. Moreover, as exc already mentioned, due to the packaging, the name plates were scratched. The time to fix the plate and re-anodise the name plate took longer than expected as well. The plan was 2-3 weeks but ended up taking 2 months.
- After receiving the plates, I also realised that there was a little problem with the PCB causing the left Windows to malfunction. This one can be easily fixed but takes up a lot of time since each and every PCB has to be thoroughly checked.
* The status of the GB: all the parts of E8-V1 are readily at my warehouse and can be considered ready for shipment. The most tedious and time-consuming part now is engraving the name plate as ordered. I will sort the orders out as per the original list of participants (link (https://goo.gl/ghB1IL)), which is always published. I also had the list of those that need to be assembled (link (http://kuang2.net/eteam/assem)). For Vietnamese orders, I have already sorted them out because there are not many and all of them will be free shipped. The sorting for international orders will be done accordingly but the shipping will be on hold until jhoang provide me with the new list. The assembly, after getting confirmation from jhoang will take 2 days for a non-tuned board and 5 days for those that need tuning. The order will be according to the position of your order.
* Main problem: I do not have the list of people who are still keen to stick with our GB and those who have already backed out through Paypal dispute. I also don’t know who paid jhoang for assembly service and who did not. And above all, I don’t have the money to assemble as well as send out your boards. I have yet to receive a single penny from jhoang.
* About jhoang: I still haven’t been able to get in touch with him to get the necessary information as well as money (as if he wants me to take care of the rest of the GB). The last thing I know, and for sure is that there is around $18,000 held up by Paypal in jhoang’s account (before the E6-V2 GB took place). Even now, I don’t think Paypal has released the money so I believe that jhoang will have to use his own money to pay up for the upcoming costs of this GB.
* So why E8-V1 GB is struggling? As I once posted and you all know, jhoang has not been communicating, making things even worse. There are even more problems as follow:
- There are too many options for just one keyboard, leading to a lot more questions than expected.
- Plate problem was not of a big deal but the time to fix it was. I do know some GB where the plates had more problems than this but the GB organiser ignored them and send out anyway, keeping it in the dark from participants.
- From the perspective of some people that I discussed it with, the PCB problem was not a big deal neither. Anyone who could assemble a board by himself can fix it, but I personally don’t believe so.
- The lack of faith from GB participants – this could be answered by yourselves.
P/S: The statements above doesn’t mean that I will be officially step up and take over this GB. What I am doing is just to help my friend, jhoang as well as all those who still have faith in our E8-V1 GB or moreover, all the keyboard lovers. My English is not good, I don’t have much time to log in GH regularly and I really can’t get familiar with the PM system of this forum so if you have any question, feel free to post a reply here. If you want to ask something more familiar, just drop me an email at eteam@kuang2.net
P/S 2: I do believe that those who backed out from the E8-V1 GB please spare jhoang and those who are still keep the faith some breathing room. The less of your pitchforks, Paypal dispute and such, the quicker E8-V1 arrive at your mailbox.
P/S 3: About E6-V2, I will give exc all my design, and ask jhoang to give him all information and money for making it faster.
So much ping pong going on in this groupbuy. I have been in longer groupbuy and I understand the risks and unforeseeable roadblocks involved in Groupbuy. But this is the first time since sprit I have seen a runner who is as disrespectful as jhoang. You have problem, I get it, just say something and I will wait. Instead, you bounced around your responsibilities to your so-called friends, first it was exclusive, now kuang2. Even the way you did it was in such a half-ass way. You wanted kuang2 to ship/assemble the board but you have yet to provide him with the shipping list or the assembly service list, like what the ****? So what if kuang2 now has all the boards, kuang2 even stated that he doesnt know what to do with them.
At this point I am over this buy, I just want the stupid board. I have never disputed with paypal claims because like I said, I understand the risk of GB, but I cannot tolerate undisciplined and half-ass organizer. I no longer desire the engravings or whatever ****ery related to this board.
Kuang2 if you read this I want you to know that I will pay for the extra shipping cost, just ship me my ****ing board, no engravings or any extra service needed. PM me directly and I will provide you my address and ppal info for the shipping invoice. Thank you.
Mình rất thất vọng với cái groupbuy này. Nếu các bạn thích chơi bóng bàn đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau thì không nên làm groupbuy quốc tế. Muốn ra làm ăn quốc tế thì phải có tiếng nói, không nên giở trò lèm nhèm đánh đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau được. Trong vòng cả 8 tháng nay mình không nói một câu nào, hay là đòi tiền lại trên paypal bởi mình nghỉ là người Việt Nam với nhau nên tin tưởng gà nhà.
Mình sẵn sàng trả tiền cước phí lần thứ hai để Kuang2 ship cái bàn phím của mình. Kuang2 nếu đọc được thì gởi PM để lấy địa chỉ. Cám ơn.
I second this. I am willing to forego engraving as well.
I don't think making special requests through this thread is going to help any situation or even be considered.
I will wait patiently to get a board eventually. The only thing I will say is that I really wish the choice to do the E6 was halted until these details were sorted here with the paypal and the manufacturing. I appreciate Exc. and Kuang's posts with their statuses. I really think the next step would be for someone within your "E-Team" to take over from jhoang and move this forward. Can he refund the money, and then you guys can figure out a better way for us to pay you for our boards?
I don't think making special requests through this thread is going to help any situation or even be considered.
I will wait patiently to get a board eventually. The only thing I will say is that I really wish the choice to do the E6 was halted until these details were sorted here with the paypal and the manufacturing. I appreciate Exc. and Kuang's posts with their statuses. I really think the next step would be for someone within your "E-Team" to take over from jhoang and move this forward. Can he refund the money, and then you guys can figure out a better way for us to pay you for our boards?
I don't think making special requests through this thread is going to help any situation or even be considered.
I will wait patiently to get a board eventually. The only thing I will say is that I really wish the choice to do the E6 was halted until these details were sorted here with the paypal and the manufacturing. I appreciate Exc. and Kuang's posts with their statuses. I really think the next step would be for someone within your "E-Team" to take over from jhoang and move this forward. Can he refund the money, and then you guys can figure out a better way for us to pay you for our boards?
How would he refund the money lol. How do you think the manufacturing/shipping fees happened. The issue at this point is likely that he has negative PayPal balance and open disputes and no way to get the money back even if he wanted to. It’s not like he can return the cases to get money for refunds.
This is why disputing in a GB early is such a huge problem. Between the cases, shipping, anodizing, reanodizing, etc, there is likely no money left to refund. As soon as 1 person disputed and his account got frozen jhoang was screwed cause he still likely needs money to complete the order. Once that happens the delays start to snowball which means more disputes which means more negative balance.
Don’t get me wrong, there is no defense for just stopping communication. But whoever it was that disputed super early likely holds a good bit of blame as well. I imagine at a certain point there were so many open disputes and negative balance all while stuck waiting for replacement parts that jhoang just gave up.
The issue now is there really isn’t a good way forward. IMO the best option would likely be to figure out what cases have been disputed and resell those. Then take the money from those sales to complete the others. I know people don’t wanna wait, but I’m not really sure how else this will be financed unless everyone just wants to spend more money.
So much ping pong going on in this groupbuy. I have been in longer groupbuy and I understand the risks and unforeseeable roadblocks involved in Groupbuy. But this is the first time since sprit I have seen a runner who is as disrespectful as jhoang. You have problem, I get it, just say something and I will wait. Instead, you bounced around your responsibilities to your so-called friends, first it was exclusive, now kuang2. Even the way you did it was in such a half-ass way. You wanted kuang2 to ship/assemble the board but you have yet to provide him with the shipping list or the assembly service list, like what the ****? So what if kuang2 now has all the boards, kuang2 even stated that he doesnt know what to do with them.
At this point I am over this buy, I just want the stupid board. I have never disputed with paypal claims because like I said, I understand the risk of GB, but I cannot tolerate undisciplined and half-ass organizer. I no longer desire the engravings or whatever ****ery related to this board.
Kuang2 if you read this I want you to know that I will pay for the extra shipping cost, just ship me my ****ing board, no engravings or any extra service needed. PM me directly and I will provide you my address and ppal info for the shipping invoice. Thank you.
Mình rất thất vọng với cái groupbuy này. Nếu các bạn thích chơi bóng bàn đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau thì không nên làm groupbuy quốc tế. Muốn ra làm ăn quốc tế thì phải có tiếng nói, không nên giở trò lèm nhèm đánh đổ trách nhiệm cho nhau được. Trong vòng cả 8 tháng nay mình không nói một câu nào, hay là đòi tiền lại trên paypal bởi mình nghỉ là người Việt Nam với nhau nên tin tưởng gà nhà.
Mình sẵn sàng trả tiền cước phí lần thứ hai để Kuang2 ship cái bàn phím của mình. Kuang2 nếu đọc được thì gởi PM để lấy địa chỉ. Cám ơn.
Same here. I'd be willing to pay shipping costs and give up engraving to get my order now.
I've emailed Kuang about it too.
Surely, we'll need to provide proof to Kuang that we haven't filed a charge back vs Jhoang.
I second this. I am willing to forego engraving as well.
I second this, I no longer want to deal with Jhoang. My dispute is going through and will continue to go through, unless Jhoang provides some meaningful resolution for all of the GB participants. As this is unlikely to happen, once my dispute has gone through, I will happily pay the amount, originally paid for my board, to Kuang2 and cover any additional shipping costs.
This entire buy has left quite a sour taste in my mouth. To the people trying to help this out despite not being their responsibility, Exclusive and Kuang2, you guys are amazing and thank you for doing extra work to help the participants get their end product.
I don't think making special requests through this thread is going to help any situation or even be considered.
I will wait patiently to get a board eventually. The only thing I will say is that I really wish the choice to do the E6 was halted until these details were sorted here with the paypal and the manufacturing. I appreciate Exc. and Kuang's posts with their statuses. I really think the next step would be for someone within your "E-Team" to take over from jhoang and move this forward. Can he refund the money, and then you guys can figure out a better way for us to pay you for our boards?
Some of us realize there is no fund to move forward with this groupbuy, but the boards are already there, just collecting dirt. Hence a few are willing to pay shipping fee the second time to get the ball rolling again.
How would he refund the money lol. How do you think the manufacturing/shipping fees happened. The issue at this point is likely that he has negative PayPal balance and open disputes and no way to get the money back even if he wanted to. It’s not like he can return the cases to get money for refunds.
This is why disputing in a GB early is such a huge problem. Between the cases, shipping, anodizing, reanodizing, etc, there is likely no money left to refund. As soon as 1 person disputed and his account got frozen jhoang was screwed cause he still likely needs money to complete the order. Once that happens the delays start to snowball which means more disputes which means more negative balance.
Don’t get me wrong, there is no defense for just stopping communication. But whoever it was that disputed super early likely holds a good bit of blame as well. I imagine at a certain point there were so many open disputes and negative balance all while stuck waiting for replacement parts that jhoang just gave up.
The issue now is there really isn’t a good way forward. IMO the best option would likely be to figure out what cases have been disputed and resell those. Then take the money from those sales to complete the others. I know people don’t wanna wait, but I’m not really sure how else this will be financed unless everyone just wants to spend more money.
kuang2, I sent you a private message.
I know that some are still waiting for their boards, and some doesn't. But if we sell their board, money must come to them, not me. Another plan that can earn some money that I will sell my and jhoang collections, to take care shipping costhe means the boards that have already been disputed/refunded. and i don't think anyone of us want you to sell off your boards so we can get ours. perhaps those who have received refunds from paypal can inform kuang of the details of your orders so he knows which boards are currently ownerless.
I don't think making special requests through this thread is going to help any situation or even be considered.
I will wait patiently to get a board eventually. The only thing I will say is that I really wish the choice to do the E6 was halted until these details were sorted here with the paypal and the manufacturing. I appreciate Exc. and Kuang's posts with their statuses. I really think the next step would be for someone within your "E-Team" to take over from jhoang and move this forward. Can he refund the money, and then you guys can figure out a better way for us to pay you for our boards?
How would he refund the money lol. How do you think the manufacturing/shipping fees happened. The issue at this point is likely that he has negative PayPal balance and open disputes and no way to get the money back even if he wanted to. It’s not like he can return the cases to get money for refunds.
This is why disputing in a GB early is such a huge problem. Between the cases, shipping, anodizing, reanodizing, etc, there is likely no money left to refund. As soon as 1 person disputed and his account got frozen jhoang was screwed cause he still likely needs money to complete the order. Once that happens the delays start to snowball which means more disputes which means more negative balance.
Don’t get me wrong, there is no defense for just stopping communication. But whoever it was that disputed super early likely holds a good bit of blame as well. I imagine at a certain point there were so many open disputes and negative balance all while stuck waiting for replacement parts that jhoang just gave up.
The issue now is there really isn’t a good way forward. IMO the best option would likely be to figure out what cases have been disputed and resell those. Then take the money from those sales to complete the others. I know people don’t wanna wait, but I’m not really sure how else this will be financed unless everyone just wants to spend more money.
Nah, it was more than just that. From the beginning, the original invoicing flagged his account and a third (or half) of the money was frozen. He had to put in his own personal money to push the project forward, that was very near the beginning of the buy though. Since then, issues cropped up here and there and things got worse, he even asked that people not dispute so that he can properly resolve his issues, but the disputes piled on and I *think* that his paypal got absolutely boned. I can't speculate what's going on right now, but last I heard, just a little over a month ago, he was "trying to resolve the problems". He has been MIA since then
hope you guys will receive your Mech soon
Hey everyone,
I've been trying to keep up with the progress of this group buy. I am sort of on the fence at this point if I want to continue with this buy or if I should back out or maybe sell off the keyboard after I receive it. For those of you who have kept up more than I have, any suggestions if I should keep going on this group buy?
I haven't received any reply to my emails.
hope you guys will receive your Mech soon
Hey everyone,
I've been trying to keep up with the progress of this group buy. I am sort of on the fence at this point if I want to continue with this buy or if I should back out or maybe sell off the keyboard after I receive it. For those of you who have kept up more than I have, any suggestions if I should keep going on this group buy?
kuang is responding to emails. You should email him your shipping address that corresponds to your paypal and order number "E**" b/c all he has is the spreadsheet with order details and paypal address. It appears that he is shipping the boards in the near future. He's currently working on engraving. The biggest issue I see here is that what in the F are we going to do if we have issues? What if the PCB is screwed up? What if we aren't happy with the anodization or engraving? I'm not sure who will be able or willing to help us with our issues since the original group buy leader is MIA. I'm staying in it. Probably stupid, but I've done dumber things in my life.
just got another email from kuang, he was inspecting my assembly order and advised me not to go with 55g sprit springs + lubed vintage blacks because this combo is even lighter than stock reds according to him. not only that he even gave me a list of alternatives for my convinience. thanks to his advice i have chosen to go with 65g springs, or 62g if 65g aren't available.
i normally wouldn't detail private interactions in such a public manner, but after what jhoang put us through i think more information can only be a good thing. thumbs up to mr. kuang for such dedication! :thumb:
waiting on a response from kuang
just got another email from kuang, he was inspecting my assembly order and advised me not to go with 55g sprit springs + lubed vintage blacks because this combo is even lighter than stock reds according to him. not only that he even gave me a list of alternatives for my convinience. thanks to his advice i have chosen to go with 65g springs, or 62g if 65g aren't available.I love using 55/58g springs :P
i normally wouldn't detail private interactions in such a public manner, but after what jhoang put us through i think more information can only be a good thing. thumbs up to mr. kuang for such dedication! :thumb:
i'm just providing an update from my end brah
yes i just asked him to provide an update for overseas boards
nah i should've done that earlier, just kinda assumed he replied to all emails at once
Any updates? Or at least has anybody gotten a response from kuang?
Any updates? Or at least has anybody gotten a response from kuang?
He replied to my email saying he would let me know when my board was ready. I wasn't getting assembly or anything and as far as I can tell he has all the other pieces (i think mine is the top right one in the picture 'joinhandmade' posted). Only thing I can think is he is trying to get the engraving done? I said in my message I was fine not getting the engraving and paying him for shipping, so not sure what the hold up is.
Hello all, sorry if I haven't gotten back to you. I'm not able to commit full time to this yet at the moment but I will get back to each one of you eventually. Thank you for your patience.
All the Vietnamese orders have been sent out. Now I'll start with orders that haven't been disputed yet first and will contact the buyers to reconfirm your order and address as well as collect shipping from you.
For those who have gotten refunds from PayPal and still want to get your board, send me an email and I'll get back to you.
I've been able to sort and have the engravings done for some orders. Here are some pictures:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ANuXr0M.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZQjZKNF.jpg)
One problem now is that I don't know which one of you have already disputed/gotten a refund or haven't and I can't get that info from jhoang either. So I'll have to go through each order one by one and check back with you. Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas on how to verify this?
One problem now is that I don't know which one of you have already disputed/gotten a refund or haven't and I can't get that info from jhoang either. So I'll have to go through each order one by one and check back with you. Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas on how to verify this?
Unless you have direct contact with people's banks and/or Nam's paypal... I don't know if you can verify... we really need Nam/Jhoang to come back for this :\
One problem now is that I don't know which one of you have already disputed/gotten a refund or haven't and I can't get that info from jhoang either. So I'll have to go through each order one by one and check back with you. Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas on how to verify this?
Unless you have direct contact with people's banks and/or Nam's paypal... I don't know if you can verify... we really need Nam/Jhoang to come back for this :\
We can screen cap the paypal invoice I guess.
My order for Aox/Aoxmodeus is cancelled, and my money was returned to me. You can delete my cells from the spreadsheet.
One problem now is that I don't know which one of you have already disputed/gotten a refund or haven't and I can't get that info from jhoang either. So I'll have to go through each order one by one and check back with you. Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas on how to verify this?Could you please check my PM, Mr.Kuang?
Who is supposed to have the money from the buyers? I'm not sure how much this would change things, but I imagine Exclusive should be receiving all the money as Jhoang/Kuang is just the middleman/organizer.
Could you please check my PM, Mr.Kuang?
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just picked up my board in person from Mr. Quang/kuang2, good timing since this thread was due an update
- he is a very friendly and jovial guy in his mid 30s, who's only picked up the hobby in 2015 but is extremely experienced due to his technology backgrounds, and has amassed an extensive collection as well. the backstory goes, he initially wanted a more compact board to hit the 7-0 cluster more easily while holding down CTRL for his MMORPGs. his very first board was a Winkeyless 75% kit which he assembled himself. soon after he developed an obsession with mechs and acquired something like 70 boards in the following months.
- according to him, Nam/Jhoang's fiance/wife/girlfriend (not sure which, forgot this detail) happened to log into GH and see that his absence has generated a lot of controversy. so she phoned kuang (who is good friends with Jhoang irl) to inform him that he has been in the hospital for the last month, due to complications with his liver and blood pressure level. kuang and some other buddies have been meaning to visit Jhoang in the hospital, but keep putting it off because they're afraid of their potential visit causing more stress to Jhoang relating to the GB situation.
- vietnamese orders have mostly been completely resolved, with a few exceptions (but nothing to worry about). apparently some overseas orders have been resolved as well, but kuang is in a difficult position here because as he wrote in his latest update, there is no way to verify who has and hasn't disputed their orders. i hope you guys will assist him, it's the very least you can do for someone who is untangling this mess pretty much by himself.
- when i asked him if it was possible to get more people to help him out with the assembly, he told me that helpers in the past were usually very enthusiastic at the beginning and when working on their boards. however the tediousness of the process gets to them and they would only finish like 3 boards at most. also he prefers to assemble on his own because entrusting others can be hard due to lack of experience. he showed me how the same spring rotated in different ways will result in different feels, and how you need to make sure that longer keys like backspace/shift are assembled so that when you place the cap on and press it down on one side, the entire key travels the distance and not just the side you press (like a seesaw)
that's all the pertinent info relating to the GB and what i perceive to be mr. Quang's trustworthiness. we discussed a myriad of other keyboard and non keyboard topics, if anyone is interested i will write another post on the keyboard topics. pictures soon..ish!
he showed me how the same spring rotated in different ways will result in different feels
Oh, that sounds interesting, got any more info on this?sorry he didn't show me per se nor did i ask him for additional detail (we were at a small cafe and not his assembly station, though i do plan to visit his place in the future), but he said that sometimes when he's assembling/testing a board and a particular key feels 'off', it would be due to the spring, and that he would have to redo it by taking the switch out and rotating the spring a little, until it feels 'right'. dunno how much of that is psuedoscience, but if the keyboard world had objectivists and subjectivists like in the audiophile scene, mr. Quang would be firmly entrenched in the objectivist camp.. that is not to say he doesn't understand the subjective preferences of each individual when it comes to switches, plates, aesthetics, etc.
i am still amazed how jhoang just completely abandoned this whole group buy
So what would be the best way to verify to kuang that we didn't get a a refund for our board?the simplest yet most improbable solution is to somehow gain access to jhoang's paypal, from which kuang can easily locate all the information he would need. otherwise, maybe you can filter transactions with jhoang's paypal, and print it out and then take a screenshot of it? no clue how feasible that would be
i am still amazed how jhoang just completely abandoned this whole group buy
Considering he has quite severe medical issues, I think most people will be able to understand. Blood pressure can lead to many more things than you'd first think.
i am still amazed how jhoang just completely abandoned this whole group buy
Considering he has quite severe medical issues, I think most people will be able to understand. Blood pressure can lead to many more things than you'd first think.
oh, maybe there is more to the story than i am aware
So jhoangs girlfriend/wife/fiancee can get jhoangs PayPal info and give it to Kuang. That'd be the best thing for Kuang to verify transactions.
So jhoangs girlfriend/wife/fiancee can get jhoangs PayPal info and give it to Kuang. That'd be the best thing for Kuang to verify transactions.
Didn't even think of that tbh, i think that might be viable solution, but at the same time. it *might* be inconsiderate, though its definitely the best current "solution"
I havent even gotten a reply from Kuang yet, hopefully that comes in.
So jhoangs girlfriend/wife/fiancee can get jhoangs PayPal info and give it to Kuang. That'd be the best thing for Kuang to verify transactions.dunno if she'd be willing.. i mean if i were in her shoes i'd have the same hesitation
Honestly, that's not the holdup. I got my money back from Paypal, and I told Kuang I did and I would be glad to pay a new invoice. He said he was going to send one. He's failed to respond since then.actually, when we were discussing the overall complications regarding the overseas orders, kuang specifically mentioned that someone made it easy for him by telling him that he got the refund but is still willing to repay to acquire the board, and that kuang would follow that up with him. i presume he must've been talking about you?
I havent even gotten a reply from Kuang yet, hopefully that comes in.yea kuang does tend to take his time with the replies..
So jhoangs girlfriend/wife/fiancee can get jhoangs PayPal info and give it to Kuang. That'd be the best thing for Kuang to verify transactions.dunno if she'd be willing.. i mean if i were in her shoes i'd have the same hesitationHonestly, that's not the holdup. I got my money back from Paypal, and I told Kuang I did and I would be glad to pay a new invoice. He said he was going to send one. He's failed to respond since then.actually, when we were discussing the overall complications regarding the overseas orders, kuang specifically mentioned that someone made it easy for him by telling him that he got the refund but is still willing to repay to acquire the board, and that kuang would follow that up with him. i presume he must've been talking about you?I havent even gotten a reply from Kuang yet, hopefully that comes in.yea kuang does tend to take his time with the replies..
anyway it's not a discussion of whether kuang would see this GB through or not, just whether you guys can wait it out
just picked up my board in person from Mr. Quang/kuang2, good timing since this thread was due an update
- he is a very friendly and jovial guy in his mid 30s, who's only picked up the hobby in 2015 but is extremely experienced due to his technology backgrounds, and has amassed an extensive collection as well. the backstory goes, he initially wanted a more compact board to hit the 7-0 cluster more easily while holding down CTRL for his MMORPGs. his very first board was a Winkeyless 75% kit which he assembled himself. soon after he developed an obsession with mechs and acquired something like 70 boards in the following months.
- according to him, Nam/Jhoang's fiance/wife/girlfriend (not sure which, forgot this detail) happened to log into GH and see that his absence has generated a lot of controversy. so she phoned kuang (who is good friends with Jhoang irl) to inform him that he has been in the hospital for the last month, due to complications with his liver and blood pressure level. kuang and some other buddies have been meaning to visit Jhoang in the hospital, but keep putting it off because they're afraid of their potential visit causing more stress to Jhoang relating to the GB situation.
- vietnamese orders have mostly been completely resolved, with a few exceptions (but nothing to worry about). apparently some overseas orders have been resolved as well, but kuang is in a difficult position here because as he wrote in his latest update, there is no way to verify who has and hasn't disputed their orders. i hope you guys will assist him, it's the very least you can do for someone who is untangling this mess pretty much by himself.
- when i asked him if it was possible to get more people to help him out with the assembly, he told me that helpers in the past were usually very enthusiastic at the beginning and when working on their boards. however the tediousness of the process gets to them and they would only finish like 3 boards at most. also he prefers to assemble on his own because entrusting others can be hard due to lack of experience. he showed me how the same spring rotated in different ways will result in different feels, and how you need to make sure that longer keys like backspace/shift are assembled so that when you place the cap on and press it down on one side, the entire key travels the distance and not just the side you press (like a seesaw)
that's all the pertinent info relating to the GB and what i perceive to be mr. Quang's trustworthiness. we discussed a myriad of other keyboard and non keyboard topics, if anyone is interested i will write another post on the keyboard topics. pictures soon..ish!
Some of us (like myself) have no choice but to wait it out since the ebay protection period has passedriiight...
just thought of something: i'll ask kuang to get jhoang's SO to access his paypal if possible, and screencap/print out a list of refunded transactions (should be easy to filter if i'm not mistaken)Some of us (like myself) have no choice but to wait it out since the ebay protection period has passedriiight...
Looks like somebody get their E8... unless I'm missing something?
Do we all need to send him our paypal and adress for shipping? Just not clear on that.
E53 here. I've pmed you my details Mr. Kuang2.
E53 here. I've pmed you my details Mr. Kuang2.
Hopefully you didn’t actually PM him. He has stated to email at eteam@kuang2.net, bc he doesn’t check GH pms
Image Update for all orders i've sort: https://imgur.com/a/gmW08 (more pictures uploading ....)
So, are these issues just dirt? Note the white below the escape and the smudges on the plate:
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looks like general factory dirt to me
I hope so. The board looks awesome. I forgot how nice it is.
Very nice kuanglooks like general factory dirt to meI hope so. The board looks awesome. I forgot how nice it is.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fl5tQGO.jpg)
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looks like general factory dirt to meI hope so. The board looks awesome. I forgot how nice it is.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fl5tQGO.jpg)
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I wish I had ordered like 5 more of these in all those cool color combos.
looks like general factory dirt to meI hope so. The board looks awesome. I forgot how nice it is.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fl5tQGO.jpg)
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looks like general factory dirt to meI hope so. The board looks awesome. I forgot how nice it is.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fl5tQGO.jpg)
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Oh man, I'm getting excited again. That one with the blue plate might be mine =D
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit?usp=sharing
more information soon
jhoang have to stay in hospital, and can not answer everybody here about his GroupBuy, can not pay any money until now. I just help everybody to sort your order out, then we keep waiting for jhoang
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit?usp=sharing
more information soon
Kuang, if you'll go ahead and invoice me for my keyboard, you'll have quite a bit of money available for shipping. When you're ready, I am.
I paid (E11) but paid late and your list is showing that I never did. I can still get my money back via PayPal protection. I can then forward that entire sum to you Kuang... Is that the best way of going about this?
EDIT: also sent you an email with the details.
Sorry but I think you have to wait.
I check all the email and updating it to my sheet, will reply to you soon.
I see someone already cancel their keyboard, may I sell it to take money for shipping?
i'm contact with DHL, to find best price for all of us. Will let you know first.I am confused by the above statements. Are these all directed at me? Let's take this conversation over to email, but I am just making sure that you're not selling the keyboard that I already PAID FOR. Thanks!I paid (E11) but paid late and your list is showing that I never did. I can still get my money back via PayPal protection. I can then forward that entire sum to you Kuang... Is that the best way of going about this?Sorry but I think you have to wait.
EDIT: also sent you an email with the details.
I check all the email and updating it to my sheet, will reply to you soon.
I see someone already cancel their keyboard, may I sell it to take money for shipping?
I have some concerns about the pcb. I heard there have been issues reported with the ones sent out to vietnamese orders. Can you confirm if they are ok or are we going to be facing issues with them?
just anecdotally heard from other people, that's why i want to clear up anything.I have some concerns about the pcb. I heard there have been issues reported with the ones sent out to vietnamese orders. Can you confirm if they are ok or are we going to be facing issues with them?
Would you mind to post a link to what you've read?
just anecdotally heard from other people, that's why i want to clear up anything.I have some concerns about the pcb. I heard there have been issues reported with the ones sent out to vietnamese orders. Can you confirm if they are ok or are we going to be facing issues with them?
Would you mind to post a link to what you've read?
nothing specifically, but I heard it from two different people. Only reason I am bringing it up, if it was just from one person I wouldn't have bothered.just anecdotally heard from other people, that's why i want to clear up anything.I have some concerns about the pcb. I heard there have been issues reported with the ones sent out to vietnamese orders. Can you confirm if they are ok or are we going to be facing issues with them?
Would you mind to post a link to what you've read?
Interesting, what kind of pcb issue did you hear from the Vietnamese buyers?
only the backlight/RGB setting gets reset each time you unplug keyboard or sleep/shut down the pc.
It seems like even the "logistics" guy (kuwang) has dropped the ball on us. I've emailed him with my address, weeks ago - still no reply, nor do I see any changes to the spreadsheet. I'm guessing it's the same for many of you as well.
Extremely concerning. I chose not to file a dispute with Paypal, because I wanted to put my faith into this GB at least once. It seems like I was wrong about that.
Yeah, my hope is he is trying to do engraving still. I know he has my board in his possession and I've agreed to pay shipping again directly to him, so that is the only possible hold up at this point.
I'm going to guess that these will ship some day when he gets well. My bets are on Spring of 2018. I'm keeping a positive outlook! :thumb: :thumb:
i know for sure that you guys will receive your boards sooner or later.. when i came to pick up my board from kuang i also learned that he works in logistics, hence his willingness to take over this groupbuy. however, his work also requires him to travel for days at a time (he showed me his Asus phone and says the reason he has it is so he can carry 3 or 4 extra batteries with him to wilderness areas where he might not have access to sockets for charging, let alone stable internet). i'm sure that is the reason he previously commented "i cannot commit full time to this GB at the moment"
i know for sure that you guys will receive your boards sooner or later.. when i came to pick up my board from kuang i also learned that he works in logistics, hence his willingness to take over this groupbuy. however, his work also requires him to travel for days at a time (he showed me his Asus phone and says the reason he has it is so he can carry 3 or 4 extra batteries with him to wilderness areas where he might not have access to sockets for charging, let alone stable internet). i'm sure that is the reason he previously commented "i cannot commit full time to this GB at the moment"
i know for sure that you guys will receive your boards sooner or later.. when i came to pick up my board from kuang i also learned that he works in logistics, hence his willingness to take over this groupbuy. however, his work also requires him to travel for days at a time (he showed me his Asus phone and says the reason he has it is so he can carry 3 or 4 extra batteries with him to wilderness areas where he might not have access to sockets for charging, let alone stable internet). i'm sure that is the reason he previously commented "i cannot commit full time to this GB at the moment"
That's still not an excuse to not post an update here, though. If he does indeed carry extra batteries, he should have access to the internet at SOME point during his travels - at least 2 minutes of his time is sufficient to post a quick update here. Especially when a lot of people's money is at stake.
i know for sure that you guys will receive your boards sooner or later.. when i came to pick up my board from kuang i also learned that he works in logistics, hence his willingness to take over this groupbuy. however, his work also requires him to travel for days at a time (he showed me his Asus phone and says the reason he has it is so he can carry 3 or 4 extra batteries with him to wilderness areas where he might not have access to sockets for charging, let alone stable internet). i'm sure that is the reason he previously commented "i cannot commit full time to this GB at the moment"
That's still not an excuse to not post an update here, though. If he does indeed carry extra batteries, he should have access to the internet at SOME point during his travels - at least 2 minutes of his time is sufficient to post a quick update here. Especially when a lot of people's money is at stake.
Surely you aren't serious? Be thankful someone is trying to get jhoang's **** together and don't flame because he isn't updating to the degree that you want.
i know for sure that you guys will receive your boards sooner or later.. when i came to pick up my board from kuang i also learned that he works in logistics, hence his willingness to take over this groupbuy. however, his work also requires him to travel for days at a time (he showed me his Asus phone and says the reason he has it is so he can carry 3 or 4 extra batteries with him to wilderness areas where he might not have access to sockets for charging, let alone stable internet). i'm sure that is the reason he previously commented "i cannot commit full time to this GB at the moment"
i know for sure that you guys will receive your boards sooner or later.. when i came to pick up my board from kuang i also learned that he works in logistics, hence his willingness to take over this groupbuy. however, his work also requires him to travel for days at a time (he showed me his Asus phone and says the reason he has it is so he can carry 3 or 4 extra batteries with him to wilderness areas where he might not have access to sockets for charging, let alone stable internet). i'm sure that is the reason he previously commented "i cannot commit full time to this GB at the moment"
I saw his ASUS phone, there is 1 black circle after his phone, i dont know why and i dont ask him. Now i know the reason
i think what everyone can do now is:
1. who got money refund, sent him email ( DON'T PM GH, it's hard to use for him) so he can sell your slot, take money for shipping, he didnt get money from Jhoang
2. he doesnt know who dispute/refund or not, so he cant ship board:
2.1 you can pay again (i know it's hard for you), wait Jhoang comes back and refund your first payment. Paying only ship fee again will not help you get your board
2.2 prove that you didnt get refund, i dont know how because i dont use paypal
3. hope jhoang's health better ASAP
Monday 22/10 i went to his home, as you see, he sorted all the board with note outside (slot number, color of case and plate) and prepared blank nameplate to engrave (if he scams, why he has to do it)
tuesday, i met him again near my campany, all nameplates (i think) are engraved
My guess is that he is not willing to take the chance that he is sending out a board that has been refunded. Remember, he has no way of knowing for sure who has been refunded for their purchase. A few mistakes there adds up quickly. I know I wouldn’t take that risk of I was in his shoes.
Yeah I already paid over 500 dollars for my board. I'm not really looking to pay another 500 dollars and hope I can get my first payment back. Why does not paying for the shipping fee again work?
My guess is that he is not willing to take the chance that he is sending out a board that has been refunded. Remember, he has no way of knowing for sure who has been refunded for their purchase. A few mistakes there adds up quickly. I know I wouldn’t take that risk of I was in his shoes.
Doesn't explain why he hasn't invoiced me for mine yet, as I admitted I got a refund.
My guess is that he is not willing to take the chance that he is sending out a board that has been refunded. Remember, he has no way of knowing for sure who has been refunded for their purchase. A few mistakes there adds up quickly. I know I wouldn’t take that risk of I was in his shoes.
Doesn't explain why he hasn't invoiced me for mine yet, as I admitted I got a refund.
so you already got refund, and now you are ready to buy E8 again???
My guess is that he is not willing to take the chance that he is sending out a board that has been refunded. Remember, he has no way of knowing for sure who has been refunded for their purchase. A few mistakes there adds up quickly. I know I wouldn’t take that risk of I was in his shoes.
My guess is that he is not willing to take the chance that he is sending out a board that has been refunded. Remember, he has no way of knowing for sure who has been refunded for their purchase. A few mistakes there adds up quickly. I know I wouldn’t take that risk of I was in his shoes.
How to show refunds on PayPal:
1. Click on "Activity" at the top of the page.
2. Click on "Advanced filters" and then "Refunds".
Yeah I already paid over 500 dollars for my board. I'm not really looking to pay another 500 dollars and hope I can get my first payment back. Why does not paying for the shipping fee again work?
for example: u got 500$ refund but u still tell him that you dont, u are ready to pay shipping fee "again"( for ex 50$)
he sends u a board, so how much money u pay for a 500$ board, only 50$
We have E20, E38, E75, E79 already receive their refund as I read on this thread, so I will sell their slot to market. If everything is fine, with E37's money and 4 slot, I can cover shipping fee for batch 2.
Thank you all.
Hi everyone,
I just come back here with you after a very very busy week. Now I'm reading all of your email and take note to my sheet, and reply your email too. People who willing to pay shipping fee again will receive invoice this week, and I will send your keyboard right after you make payment (and I will send you image of your keyboard before packing too).
All your keyboard will be shipped by EMS Viet Nam. Here is the link to the price and tools for estimate. An E8-V1 keyboard with brass weight, some name plate about 3.5kg with box and foam.
EMS Viet Nam rate: http://ems.com.vn/products/96-cc-ems-quc-t.aspx
Estimate shipping cost with EMS Viet Nam: http://ems.com.vn/charging_dosmetic.aspx
Has anyone received an invoice? I'm E71. I didn't dispute and offered to pay shipping again, but haven't received invoice.
I have order # E43. I sent an email about a week ago saying that I was willing to pay the new shipping. Is the spreadsheet still being updated? Of course, not having to pay double shipping would be better, so I'll keep watching the thread for that, but I just want to make sure my status is noted somewhere.
Anyone hear anything from Kuang? I've sent some emails that are a week old about shipping and assembly costs and proof I paid for assembly already. I'm to the point where I want to cancel my order.
invoice email sent
Quang (which is how he signs his name in the email) just emailed me to confirm everything and sent an image of my badge. So, he is working through orders.
Any idea what is the best way to go about getting my assembly fee refunded from jhoang? Should I dispute that transaction through paypal? I haven't disputed anything up to date so far on the groupbuy.
invoice email sent
You got a shipping invoice from kuang?
o **** i got one too
fk yea
Still waiting on mine :(
Still waiting on mine :(
Still waiting on mine :(
Same :'( But kuang did email me back about my engraving so I hope it'll be soon.
Still waiting on mine :(Still waiting on mine :(
Same :'( But kuang did email me back about my engraving so I hope it'll be soon.
what are you talking aboutShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HzBX83X.jpg)
today I will send 10 invoice to all persons that I get confirmed email. Then I will send more 10-12 confirm email to other.
Still waiting on mine :(Still waiting on mine :(
Same :'( But kuang did email me back about my engraving so I hope it'll be soon.
what are you talking aboutShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HzBX83X.jpg)
today I will send 10 invoice to all persons that I get confirmed email. Then I will send more 10-12 confirm email to other.
Don't know if anyone had the same issue, but it looks like mine had some extra invoices sent. They were all cancelled except for one, so all is good. Just thought I would mention in case anyone was confused why they had more than 1 invoice.Yeah, I had the same happen to me.
Oh, I got an shipping invoice!!
I paid !!
I've emailed kuang four times with no response. I don't need assembly, I will pay the double shipping. Just please don't sell my spot because I'm still out $500 and would like my board.
Founders #16
I've emailed kuang four times with no response. I don't need assembly, I will pay the double shipping. Just please don't sell my spot because I'm still out $500 and would like my board.
Founders #16
I'm with you on this one. Emailed him multiple times, never got a response either. Seeing the spreadsheet getting updated, with mine still unchanged, really makes things worse.
I got my tracking number.
I'm very sorry for miss your email, I will check all my inbox, and reply to all of you right now.
To Panzerhawx: i'm asking SF if you can receive keyboard from mainland without tax. If yes, I will send yours from SZ.
To others: today I ship to 5 persons, total 9 keyboards. Still have 2 persons who already paid but can not ship today. I will send yours tomorrow and email you tracking number. Today plan to send out more 10 invoice.
Still waiting for an invoice for shipping. Ive sent a few emails now.
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Is that just a piece of tape on the PCB?No this is a trace repair. There were revisions right before the PCB went to production and they forgot to connect a switch trace. From what I understand, all PCBs have been fixed and tested.
Thanks for the pics. The board looks nice. Not perfect, like you said, but very very nice.
today I sent out more than 10 confirm emails. Hope that I can send more and more E8-V1 keyboard to you guy.
All US members can track on USPS tool, but none of your keyboard reach US until now.
Tomorrow YHYOON will receive his keyboards. Took 3 days from Viet Nam to South Korea.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s4I0Cbl.jpg)
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I dunno, for me i think at this point its more of a "stop-loss". I feel lucky that these are even shipping.
I dunno, for me i think at this point its more of a "stop-loss". I feel lucky that these are even shipping.
Thank you so much for your quick review to all GH user, As I already post E8-V1 was design and made by exclusive, then GB open by jhoang. I almost do nothing, but my fault is not give you all the information about E8-V1 keyboard.
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I found problem with PCB then confirm with Exc about that. He made mistake on this, and some other little mistake too that I will show it to you. All PCB was fix by me, and I test it already.
PS. How is programming handled?Bootmapper Client
https://imgur.com/a/Lnm4XHow's the white micro arc oxidation look??? It sounds like the normal anodized alumnium have some consistency issues.
Not even tested the PCB yet, literally just opened it
https://imgur.com/a/Lnm4X
Not even tested the PCB yet, literally just opened it
https://imgur.com/a/Lnm4X
Not even tested the PCB yet, literally just opened it
https://imgur.com/a/Lnm4X
Not even tested the PCB yet, literally just opened it
beautiful -- I should probably pay up for shipping again rather than waiting around for something to happen
oh snap. I hope my keeb didn't go to Jamaica.
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oh snap. I hope my keeb didn't go to Jamaica.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica,_Queens
I got my kit today! It's so beautiful! The finish, the even machining of the parts, the way everything comes together neatly. I'll take some nice photographs soon. It came in a custom hard silver box with dense foam walls but no outer box for that, just wrapping paper, but thankfully with fast EMS shipping and the good box/foam design there was no damage to anything.
My kit is basically perfect, has almost no imperfections. There might be a dot or two in the finish, but I still have to clean the whole case.
The anodized surface is quite smooth and has a satin shiny finish, which I like a lot. I'm super happy with my kit.
Thank you very much, Exclusive, and huge thanks to kuang2 for the hard work rescuing this group buy!
P.S.: quick snap after unwrapping etc.:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1l8EElf.jpg)
Yeah, those colors are difficult to photograph, especially the teal, I'll need to do some dedicated photography and processing. But it will be done! Thank you again <3
That's disappointing to hear about SA caps not fitting, since that profile is the one I like the most. I guess I'll just have to see how bad it is in person.
I've not checked interference on mine yet, but for this price point that is a solid deal breaker. PCB tested OK last night.
Now for the not sucky part. Help me pick!
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B:
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Now for the not sucky part. Help me pick!
A:
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B:
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I vote B since I'll be putting Penumbra on mine and I opted for the same case color =P
Pics are being uploaded
I got my board in today and I have to say it's flawless. I have no external marks on the case or weight insert. The only item with tool marks is the plate and it's a small rough patch in the corner. The color is consistent top and bottom, no marks around the screw holes, the defuser inserts are flush and fits perfect in the cut outs. I could not be happier because this is my "end game" TKL board and I was a little concerned after reading this thread what people were saying who received their boards. I wanted to post to let people know that boards are being shipped (and a quite fast too) and not to worry about the quality because again mine is flawless. It was a little dirty and had finger prints but all was wiped off without issue.
Just waiting for a few more supplies and then I'm going to build her up. I'm excited because the board looks amazing. Exclusive and E-Team you all did a great job and Quang I want to thank you for taking over shipping and getting people their boards. Be excited people..
Edit: Pics and also I don't have any of the issues reececonrad's has. My engaving has no previous engraving, my screws sit flush with the flat head screws they came with. I can't test clearance with SA caps because I hate them and don't own a set but so far just doing the fitting I have no clearance issues with Cherry, DSA, XDA, OEM or DCS style caps, I'm sorry he has those issues.
Anyhow, pics !!!!
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B for sureShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/TWcMc1P.jpg)
I have a lot of things want to talk to you about E8-V1 as I already assembly them a lot, but sorry for my english.
- First, I will try to find way to send separate things to you such as screw, bumpons .... if you need. E8-V1 (and E6-V2) too use M2 screw, maybe I will try to add screwdriver to the package, so you do not have to go out finding one.
- about shift key, there is way to fix it that you can move switch plates and PC to USB position as much as possible before you stick it to the top cover, may resolve problem, but look not nice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yCDKDA7.jpg)
To reececonrad: all purple nameplate and some red nameplate have problem .... I will email you about detail and replacement. But why screw for nameplate not working?
Got my board yesterday!
A couple of things to note:
- Blue color is cyan, not blue
- Board has a few flaws/marks, none of it too big of an issue as it's on bottom part of case
- The two screws holding the engraved nameplates are indeed loose, something wrong with the threading of the screw holes or screws itself, not sure.
I'll post my album after I'm done building!
B for sureShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/TWcMc1P.jpg)
I have a lot of things want to talk to you about E8-V1 as I already assembly them a lot, but sorry for my english.
- First, I will try to find way to send separate things to you such as screw, bumpons .... if you need. E8-V1 (and E6-V2) too use M2 screw, maybe I will try to add screwdriver to the package, so you do not have to go out finding one.
- about shift key, there is way to fix it that you can move switch plates and PC to USB position as much as possible before you stick it to the top cover, may resolve problem, but look not nice.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yCDKDA7.jpg)
To reececonrad: all purple nameplate and some red nameplate have problem .... I will email you about detail and replacement. But why screw for nameplate not working?
I'm not sure why the screws aren't working. When I removed the badge and went to put on another they wouldn't hold. It's like they are too short now. Strange, I know, but longer screws hold. They must have just barely been meeting the threads and now they are slightly stripped?? I didn't use any strange pressure.
I did shift the plate up as much as possible and it helps with rubbing on the blockers. Good tip :thumb:
Let me know about the nameplate.
Are you sure you are using the right screws ? They should be super short flat head fillip screws. Thats what mine came with anyhow. It would be strange it you were shipped a different set of screws. Now that i think about it i didn't get any screws that were not flathead and i cant even see where i would use non flathead screws since all the screw holes are designed to be flush once screws are added,hrmm
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https://imgur.com/a/Lnm4X
Finally typing on this keyboard, in short it definitely feels end game level. It reminds me a lot of the TX1800 I had in type feel, which isn't surprising considering it is also a tray mount keyboard.
It needs a matching numpad, but I don't think I'd want to dance with Exclusive again. Maybe if they were taking orders directly...
https://imgur.com/a/Lnm4X
Finally typing on this keyboard, in short it definitely feels end game level. It reminds me a lot of the TX1800 I had in type feel, which isn't surprising considering it is also a tray mount keyboard.
It needs a matching numpad, but I don't think I'd want to dance with Exclusive again. Maybe if they were taking orders directly...
Did you order every single color for the name plate? :eek: :eek:
When can I expect extras to be up for sale?
When can I expect extras to be up for sale?
I would e-mail Kuang at eteam@kuang2.net ASAP.
It needs a matching numpad, but I don't think I'd want to dance with Exclusive again. Maybe if they were taking orders directly...i'm sure he's learned a great deal from this GB alone. plus kuang will be directly involved in future GBs starting from the E6, and he is nothing less than a pro in my opinion
It has been a week and mine is still being processed through VN, Hanoi...unlucky..
It needs a matching numpad, but I don't think I'd want to dance with Exclusive again. Maybe if they were taking orders directly...i'm sure he's learned a great deal from this GB alone. plus kuang will be directly involved in future GBs starting from the E6, and he is nothing less than a pro in my opinion
How long did it take for the US orders to get delivered? It has been a week and mine is still being processed through VN, Hanoi...I've had instances of stuff being delivered by DHL while the status still says it was in the country of origin if that relieves you of any stress :/
Can anyone comment on anode quality? Comparable to something smooth like the AEK64 or Revo RJ? Or more rough like duck?
I'm not sure why surface texture smoothness is an indicator of quality. My LZ-GH had a very textured surface which was of very high quality. My cheap TEX 60% case had a very smooth texture and finish. Surface texture is subject to finishing type and preference on the part of GB runner, and it can be made smoother (finer texture) or more textured (larger size texture) based on what's requested and done.
Quality indicators are more like uniformity of the dye/color, uniformity of finish texture across the pieces, thick enough anodized layer for greater durability, and of course very neatly machined parts with appropriate dimensions everywhere.
Got mine finished today. Nice build. I'll have to upload pictures sometime later b/c I'm headed out of town. I didn't have any issues with the PCB. I did notice that I shocked myself on the case and it rebooted the keyboard one time. It could have been static shock I suppose. I think the usb port touches the case just slightly. That makes sense, right?
Anyway, very nice board. I really like the bootmapper client software too. I have 67g zealios in mine and I love the typing sound. I ended up keeping penumbra on it, but I'll probably switch back and forth between that and hyperfuse. Since this is my first top mounted board, I was curious to know if I could tell a difference from tray mount. Yep, it's slight, but it does sound a lot nicer.
I did have one non E8-V1 related problem and I just thought I would mention it here. I might make a post about it in the keycaps section as well.
I ordered some ePBT purple on beige keycaps to go on this board. It looked perfect. It would have been the dream. However, I simply could not use those caps with cherry stabilizers. My best guess is that the purple set is a bit more shrunken from the molding process. It definitely fits very tight on the stems. I tried and tried all of the stablizers I had, but couldn't find a set that didn't feel like they were binding. Long story short, it was the ePBT caps. I've experience similar issues with some pbt caps (industrial) from Signiture Plastics that were about 1mm off spec from stem center to stem center. It pulls the stabilizers inward and makes them bind. I will have to use the purple on beige set on a costar mount board, as they work fine there. Boo. I have a red on beige ePBT set that doesn't have this problem.
Oh well... Laser will look amazing on this keyboard some time down the road too.
Got mine finished today. Nice build. I'll have to upload pictures sometime later b/c I'm headed out of town. I didn't have any issues with the PCB. I did notice that I shocked myself on the case and it rebooted the keyboard one time. It could have been static shock I suppose. I think the usb port touches the case just slightly. That makes sense, right?
Anyway, very nice board. I really like the bootmapper client software too. I have 67g zealios in mine and I love the typing sound. I ended up keeping penumbra on it, but I'll probably switch back and forth between that and hyperfuse. Since this is my first top mounted board, I was curious to know if I could tell a difference from tray mount. Yep, it's slight, but it does sound a lot nicer.
I did have one non E8-V1 related problem and I just thought I would mention it here. I might make a post about it in the keycaps section as well.
I ordered some ePBT purple on beige keycaps to go on this board. It looked perfect. It would have been the dream. However, I simply could not use those caps with cherry stabilizers. My best guess is that the purple set is a bit more shrunken from the molding process. It definitely fits very tight on the stems. I tried and tried all of the stablizers I had, but couldn't find a set that didn't feel like they were binding. Long story short, it was the ePBT caps. I've experience similar issues with some pbt caps (industrial) from Signiture Plastics that were about 1mm off spec from stem center to stem center. It pulls the stabilizers inward and makes them bind. I will have to use the purple on beige set on a costar mount board, as they work fine there. Boo. I have a red on beige ePBT set that doesn't have this problem.
Oh well... Laser will look amazing on this keyboard some time down the road too.
You don't have any pcb issues? What happens if you turn off your computer with RGB sideglow on?
My rgb sideglow stays on once I turn off my computer.
My board came in....
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those blemishes make me pretty bummed out tho, idk what to do, especially with all that's happened with this GB :(
those blemishes make me pretty bummed out tho, idk what to do, especially with all that's happened with this GB :(
those blemishes make me pretty bummed out tho, idk what to do, especially with all that's happened with this GB :(
That really is unfortunate that you have two in such prominent spots, but I bet you will mostly forget about them once you put some keycaps on it.
those blemishes make me pretty bummed out tho, idk what to do, especially with all that's happened with this GB :(
you're boned
can try to take them to a local shop to see what they can do, if you'd like
get it sand blasted and cerakoted ?
get it sand blasted and cerakoted ?
ill just go to town on it and go for a "beaten" look rofl
get it sand blasted and cerakoted ?
ill just go to town on it and go for a "beaten" look rofl
i do not recommend this approach
get it sand blasted and cerakoted ?
ill just go to town on it and go for a "beaten" look rofl
get it sand blasted and cerakoted ?
ill just go to town on it and go for a "beaten" look rofl
Well if we can find a way for SA profile to work then you could make it Fallout inspired to make you feel better.
im having issues with gmk shift keys hitting the blockers (my og poms are fine)... my plate was a bit rough and moved it up as high as I can. Anyone having issues?
im having issues with gmk shift keys hitting the blockers (my og poms are fine)... my plate was a bit rough and moved it up as high as I can. Anyone having issues?
they are rubbing against blockers like the top side when the key is depressedim having issues with gmk shift keys hitting the blockers (my og poms are fine)... my plate was a bit rough and moved it up as high as I can. Anyone having issues?
are they hitting the blockers or the sides of the case?
Got mine. Board has one small blemish next to arrow keys. What I thought was a scratch on the bottom turned out to be some kind of sticky material. I was about to rub it off with my thumb. My problem is that two of the M2 screws are so tight, I can't get them out. I've tried two different 1.5mm allen wrenches. Anyone got any suggestions?
Got mine. Board has one small blemish next to arrow keys. What I thought was a scratch on the bottom turned out to be some kind of sticky material. I was about to rub it off with my thumb. My problem is that two of the M2 screws are so tight, I can't get them out. I've tried two different 1.5mm allen wrenches. Anyone got any suggestions?
I used a t6 driver on mine. Worked well
Got mine. Board has one small blemish next to arrow keys. What I thought was a scratch on the bottom turned out to be some kind of sticky material. I was about to rub it off with my thumb. My problem is that two of the M2 screws are so tight, I can't get them out. I've tried two different 1.5mm allen wrenches. Anyone got any suggestions?
I used a t6 driver on mine. Worked well
Hi all,
It's seem that all of Batch 2 had come to you all. I will start Batch 3 this week. Please check my update sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit?usp=sharing
Hi all,
It's seem that all of Batch 2 had come to you all. I will start Batch 3 this week. Please check my update sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit?usp=sharing
Hi Kuang, I've sent you an email about my order (E74).
Thank you.
Hi all,
It's seem that all of Batch 2 had come to you all. I will start Batch 3 this week. Please check my update sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit?usp=sharing
Hi Kuang, I've sent you an email about my order (E74).
Thank you.
got itShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/yPK8I9z.jpg)
Hi all,
It's seem that all of Batch 2 had come to you all. I will start Batch 3 this week. Please check my update sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit?usp=sharing
Hi all,
It's seem that all of Batch 2 had come to you all. I will start Batch 3 this week. Please check my update sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit?usp=sharing
Going to swap these out for GMK muted later today, but this is the best I’ve ever seen my SA industrial set looking. No stepped caps but you get the idea. Also if you turn down rgb brightness it does help to make the in switch leds much brighter.
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More pics here: https://imgur.com/gallery/tFKSZ
Going to swap these out for GMK muted later today, but this is the best I’ve ever seen my SA industrial set looking. No stepped caps but you get the idea. Also if you turn down rgb brightness it does help to make the in switch leds much brighter.
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More pics here: https://imgur.com/gallery/tFKSZ
Do you have any issues with the SA caps rubbing or getting stuck with the spacers?
Going to swap these out for GMK muted later today, but this is the best I’ve ever seen my SA industrial set looking. No stepped caps but you get the idea. Also if you turn down rgb brightness it does help to make the in switch leds much brighter.damn that looks great! can you grab a few 3/4 or side profile shots? really want to see how well the diffuser works
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More pics here: https://imgur.com/gallery/tFKSZ
Going to swap these out for GMK muted later today, but this is the best I’ve ever seen my SA industrial set looking. No stepped caps but you get the idea. Also if you turn down rgb brightness it does help to make the in switch leds much brighter.damn that looks great! can you grab a few 3/4 or side profile shots? really want to see how well the diffuser works
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More pics here: https://imgur.com/gallery/tFKSZ
also the issue you had with static discharge is pretty disconcerting. sounds like something that could potentially kill the keyboard
thanks for sharing!
Going to swap these out for GMK muted later today, but this is the best I’ve ever seen my SA industrial set looking. No stepped caps but you get the idea. Also if you turn down rgb brightness it does help to make the in switch leds much brighter.
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More pics here: https://imgur.com/gallery/tFKSZ
damn that looks great! can you grab a few 3/4 or side profile shots? really want to see how well the diffuser works
also the issue you had with static discharge is pretty disconcerting. sounds like something that could potentially kill the keyboard
thanks for sharing!
Diffuser looks really nice.
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Going to swap these out for GMK muted later today, but this is the best I’ve ever seen my SA industrial set looking. No stepped caps but you get the idea. Also if you turn down rgb brightness it does help to make the in switch leds much brighter.
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More pics here: https://imgur.com/gallery/tFKSZ
damn that looks great! can you grab a few 3/4 or side profile shots? really want to see how well the diffuser works
also the issue you had with static discharge is pretty disconcerting. sounds like something that could potentially kill the keyboard
thanks for sharing!
Diffuser looks really nice.
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That actually looks amazing, thank you! Do you just touch something metal before using the keyboard to prevent the static? That's not too bad I guess.
Can't wait to receive mine.
Already took the SA caps off :(
But the good news is, muted looks quite amazing
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Just have to remember to discharge the static :)
I might think about putting some electrical tape around the usb connector inside the case. That’s more than likely the spot that makes contact
the plate being pushed up like that makes for a really ugly gap at the bottom
The created gap isn't bad. There is roughly 1mm more gap on the bottom than the top. When you are using the keyboard, and not hovering directly above it, you cannot see the extra gap at all. Seems like a silly oversight when the blockers should have been at least 2mm shorter. Howver, it is still is one of the nicest boards I own.rip I cant even push mine that far up. guessing you have no issues with gmk shift keys
The created gap isn't bad. There is roughly 1mm more gap on the bottom than the top. When you are using the keyboard, and not hovering directly above it, you cannot see the extra gap at all. Seems like a silly oversight when the blockers should have been at least 2mm shorter. Howver, it is still is one of the nicest boards I own.rip I cant even push mine that far up. guessing you have no issues with gmk shift keys
I do not have issues as long as the plate is pushed up as far as I can get it to the top of the board.Going to swap these out for GMK muted later today, but this is the best I’ve ever seen my SA industrial set looking. No stepped caps but you get the idea. Also if you turn down rgb brightness it does help to make the in switch leds much brighter.
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More pics here: https://imgur.com/gallery/tFKSZ
Do you have any issues with the SA caps rubbing or getting stuck with the spacers?
I do not have issues as long as the plate is pushed up as far as I can get it to the top of the board. The only issue I have is that any little bit of static buildup shocks the case and makes it reset in windows. I just have to make sure I discharge my static electricity on something after I sit down and before I touch my keyboard.
I'm fairly certain it's static buildup but does anyone else have this problem? I suppose it's possible that some of the pins are touching the metal base inside, but I would think that would cause a shock quite often. I've never had it shock me while I was using it, only when I first sit down, after walking around. And if I discharge the static on a metal stand nearby it doesn't shock me.
Unpacking the boards: https://imgur.com/a/VSfYf
Anyone know what numpad they are going to use with this?
Could someone send me their hex file of BootmapperClient to me plz. I just screwd mine and i just cant restore the setup. My mail adress is *@gmail.com, many thanks!!
Since im still new to this community, there are lots of thing that i dont know about. Thank for reminding me.Could someone send me their hex file of BootmapperClient to me plz. I just screwd mine and i just cant restore the setup. My mail adress is kingdomfurnding@gmail.com, many thanks!!
Probably unwise to post your email so openly.
just pm me u address .i will sent u .Since im still new to this community, there are lots of thing that i dont know about. Thank for reminding me.Could someone send me their hex file of BootmapperClient to me plz. I just screwd mine and i just cant restore the setup. My mail adress is kingdomfurnding@gmail.com, many thanks!!
Probably unwise to post your email so openly.
I'm looking for an extra blank name plate. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell?
I'm looking for an extra blank name plate. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell?
I have a blank red.
I also have a "blank" purple that was a re-anodized one and I can see that it had the "exclusive e8-v1" logo under it.
Unpacking the boards: https://imgur.com/a/VSfYf
I have outfitted one PCB with some Holtites I got from Zeal, they all fit wonderfully. In addition I have some Lead Switch and LED Holtites coming from Winkeyless and will update yall on the fit. Invyr Panda switches don't fit.
I'm looking for an extra blank name plate. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell?
I have a blank red.
I also have a "blank" purple that was a re-anodized one and I can see that it had the "exclusive e8-v1" logo under it.
Has anyone finished more boards? I'd love to see more photos! Anyway, here's a Holtite update for you:Which holtites sockets did you use?
All around they fit great. The LED ones are a super tight fit, but easy to install if you know what you're doing (still somewhat of a pain, book on tape meditation go!). The Switch version sit in there damn well too. I'll be taking some macro shots, later today and will update this post with pictures.
Which holtites sockets did you use?
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Which holtites sockets did you use?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
I have tried the ones offered by Winkeyless and some I got in bulk from Digikey and Mouser Electronics. I ended up going with the Gold Plated ones from the latter two:
8134-HC-8P2: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/8134-HC-8P2/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduh0Wkxb%2fgXI2c7uzCl7ghbT1Lxnixj1lmdpMsUwZwVrAA%3d%3d
and
8134-HC-5P2: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/8134-HC-5P2/A107431-ND/2135765
pictures again: https://imgur.com/a/kWovE
What is the price for them? Im a little confused when looking at the website
can someone please remind me what is on this PCB for the controller? I'm trying to figure out where the details are for programing this thing - RGB backlighting and LED on/off/modes and function layers
I keep reading the OP and i cant find anything
Which holtites sockets did you use?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
I have tried the ones offered by Winkeyless and some I got in bulk from Digikey and Mouser Electronics. I ended up going with the Gold Plated ones from the latter two:
8134-HC-8P2: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/8134-HC-8P2/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduh0Wkxb%2fgXI2c7uzCl7ghbT1Lxnixj1lmdpMsUwZwVrAA%3d%3d
and
8134-HC-5P2: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/8134-HC-5P2/A107431-ND/2135765
pictures again: https://imgur.com/a/kWovE
It will comes I got prototype in my handsAnyone know what numpad they are going to use with this?
E2-V1 would be perfect. but they haven't run a GB for it yet...
Hey Kuang,
I was wondering if there were any new updates regarding the next batch of boards for shipping?
I figure I'd post here as a heads up to everyone who has gotten their board. I ended up shocking mine with static electricity and it wiped the firmware. I've contacted Kuang2, and he provided some instructions and a .Hex and keymap file, but his method did not work. The board does not seem to take any firmware upload no matter what I try.
If you haven't yet, I'd recommend everyone make sure their pcb isn't touching their case anywhere in case you end up shocking your's as well. I think the mini-b port was touching the case on mine.
That said, has anyone had a similar issue and know a fix? If not, I guess I'm looking for anyone that has an extra PCB they would be willing to sell.
Where is jhoang ?
When will he return?
Where is jhoang ?
When will he return?
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I figure I'd post here as a heads up to everyone who has gotten their board. I ended up shocking mine with static electricity and it wiped the firmware. I've contacted Kuang2, and he provided some instructions and a .Hex and keymap file, but his method did not work. The board does not seem to take any firmware upload no matter what I try.
If you haven't yet, I'd recommend everyone make sure their pcb isn't touching their case anywhere in case you end up shocking your's as well. I think the mini-b port was touching the case on mine.
That said, has anyone had a similar issue and know a fix? If not, I guess I'm looking for anyone that has an extra PCB they would be willing to sell.
I figure I'd post here as a heads up to everyone who has gotten their board. I ended up shocking mine with static electricity and it wiped the firmware. I've contacted Kuang2, and he provided some instructions and a .Hex and keymap file, but his method did not work. The board does not seem to take any firmware upload no matter what I try.
If you haven't yet, I'd recommend everyone make sure their pcb isn't touching their case anywhere in case you end up shocking your's as well. I think the mini-b port was touching the case on mine.
That said, has anyone had a similar issue and know a fix? If not, I guess I'm looking for anyone that has an extra PCB they would be willing to sell.
Can you post his instructions?
I figure I'd post here as a heads up to everyone who has gotten their board. I ended up shocking mine with static electricity and it wiped the firmware. I've contacted Kuang2, and he provided some instructions and a .Hex and keymap file, but his method did not work. The board does not seem to take any firmware upload no matter what I try.
If you haven't yet, I'd recommend everyone make sure their pcb isn't touching their case anywhere in case you end up shocking your's as well. I think the mini-b port was touching the case on mine.
That said, has anyone had a similar issue and know a fix? If not, I guess I'm looking for anyone that has an extra PCB they would be willing to sell.
Can you post his instructions?
- Unplug all your keyboards.
- Holding ESC key on E8-V1, plug it to USB (I recommend not using through USB hub – direct to your computer is better). All LED indicator will be flash. Release ESC key.
- Open bootmapper client, choose Options tab. Click to EEPROM All Clear.
- Upload firmware (ps2avrGB_NKRO.HEX).
- After finish, unplug then plug your keyboard again.
- At first tab (Key Mapper), load keymap_gb_xxxx.hex, then uploading.
- After finish, unplug then plug your keyboard again.
I believe the winkeyless site has those files as it's the default firmwareI figure I'd post here as a heads up to everyone who has gotten their board. I ended up shocking mine with static electricity and it wiped the firmware. I've contacted Kuang2, and he provided some instructions and a .Hex and keymap file, but his method did not work. The board does not seem to take any firmware upload no matter what I try.
If you haven't yet, I'd recommend everyone make sure their pcb isn't touching their case anywhere in case you end up shocking your's as well. I think the mini-b port was touching the case on mine.
That said, has anyone had a similar issue and know a fix? If not, I guess I'm looking for anyone that has an extra PCB they would be willing to sell.
Can you post his instructions?
- Unplug all your keyboards.
- Holding ESC key on E8-V1, plug it to USB (I recommend not using through USB hub – direct to your computer is better). All LED indicator will be flash. Release ESC key.
- Open bootmapper client, choose Options tab. Click to EEPROM All Clear.
- Upload firmware (ps2avrGB_NKRO.HEX).
- After finish, unplug then plug your keyboard again.
- At first tab (Key Mapper), load keymap_gb_xxxx.hex, then uploading.
- After finish, unplug then plug your keyboard again.
Have links to these hex files been posted somewhere?
I believe the winkeyless site has those files as it's the default firmwareI figure I'd post here as a heads up to everyone who has gotten their board. I ended up shocking mine with static electricity and it wiped the firmware. I've contacted Kuang2, and he provided some instructions and a .Hex and keymap file, but his method did not work. The board does not seem to take any firmware upload no matter what I try.
If you haven't yet, I'd recommend everyone make sure their pcb isn't touching their case anywhere in case you end up shocking your's as well. I think the mini-b port was touching the case on mine.
That said, has anyone had a similar issue and know a fix? If not, I guess I'm looking for anyone that has an extra PCB they would be willing to sell.
Can you post his instructions?
- Unplug all your keyboards.
- Holding ESC key on E8-V1, plug it to USB (I recommend not using through USB hub – direct to your computer is better). All LED indicator will be flash. Release ESC key.
- Open bootmapper client, choose Options tab. Click to EEPROM All Clear.
- Upload firmware (ps2avrGB_NKRO.HEX).
- After finish, unplug then plug your keyboard again.
- At first tab (Key Mapper), load keymap_gb_xxxx.hex, then uploading.
- After finish, unplug then plug your keyboard again.
Have links to these hex files been posted somewhere?
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Still not shipped after 10 months?
This is kind of alarming. I've emailed Kuang twice, after he's said my board was on hold, and I've had no reply.
So.....the guy I sold my spot to has opened a dispute against me through PayPal, and apparently I am screwed. Does anyone out there know ANYTHING even mildly definitive about what is going on?
So.....the guy I sold my spot to has opened a dispute against me through PayPal, and apparently I am screwed. Does anyone out there know ANYTHING even mildly definitive about what is going on?
So.....the guy I sold my spot to has opened a dispute against me through PayPal, and apparently I am screwed. Does anyone out there know ANYTHING even mildly definitive about what is going on?
I would email Kuang2 and let him know you need help getting your board to the top of the list to ship... and you'll probably need to re-pay for shipping if you want to make this all happen. Otherwise you're kind screwed is my guess.
If I was in your situation, i would A. be pissed. and B. give the guy his money back and just wait for your board to ship, then sell it if you dont want it.
Luckily, I just got off the phone with PayPal after trying since Friday, and they have agreed to keep the investigation open. The invoice states that what was sold was "E8-V1 Group Buy," I think that might help. Looks like I will be collecting messages and reaching out to Kuang2.
If nothing else, I am a little less stressed at the moment.
Hi guys,
I would like to sincerely sorry for not completing the E8-V1 in the promised timeline. As I mentioned in the first place, I can’t dedicate full time to sorting and shipping and it’s end of year, my busiest time of the year. Moreover, my Paypal account is having some problem. Though I tried to contact Paypal, it hasn’t been solved yet. I will resume shipping in the first week of Jan 2018. Exclusive has started shipping out E6-V2 as well.
So on behalf of E-Team, we hope you enjoyed your time with friends and family during Christmas and wish you all the best in the upcoming year. We do hope that you guys will support us in the upcoming projects too.
Luckily, I just got off the phone with PayPal after trying since Friday, and they have agreed to keep the investigation open. The invoice states that what was sold was "E8-V1 Group Buy," I think that might help. Looks like I will be collecting messages and reaching out to Kuang2.
If nothing else, I am a little less stressed at the moment.
https://imgur.com/gallery/b59o5
https://imgur.com/gallery/IZKBP
today task list:
- check all previous post in this thread
- check all Private messages
- check all unread emails
- sorting order ID E45, E87, E53, E76, take picture and send email to that owners.
see you this night.
and Happy New Year !!!!!!!!
today task list:
- check all previous post in this thread
- check all Private messages
- check all unread emails
- sorting order ID E45, E87, E53, E76, take picture and send email to that owners.
see you this night.
and Happy New Year !!!!!!!!
Has anyone finished more boards? I'd love to see more photos! Anyway, here's a Holtite update for you:
All around they fit great. The LED ones are a super tight fit, but easy to install if you know what you're doing (still somewhat of a pain, book on tape meditation go!). The Switch version sit in there damn well too. I'll be taking some macro shots, later today and will update this post with pictures. Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/kWovE
Yes, yes, I know I need a legitimate macro lens, I'm working on getting one. This is the best I can do with the stock lens at the moment.
Has anyone finished more boards? I'd love to see more photos! Anyway, here's a Holtite update for you:
All around they fit great. The LED ones are a super tight fit, but easy to install if you know what you're doing (still somewhat of a pain, book on tape meditation go!). The Switch version sit in there damn well too. I'll be taking some macro shots, later today and will update this post with pictures. Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/kWovE
Yes, yes, I know I need a legitimate macro lens, I'm working on getting one. This is the best I can do with the stock lens at the moment.
I'm thinking about doing holtites on my second pcb. Question: how do you keep the pcb floating above the bottom case when there are no stand offs with a plate attached board?
Did anyone else receive stickers for their stabilizers? I've never seen or heard of stickers for stabilizers and was wondering if anyone could point to me to a guide or image on how to install them. I attempted to google it, but only found results for switch stickers :/
Sorry haven't been following this GB closely, but are there any extras? Love the layout. Very avant garde WKLSry there is no extra ,you may buy from other orders
Sorry haven't been following this GB closely, but are there any extras? Love the layout. Very avant garde WKLSry there is no extra ,you may buy from other orders
anyone wants to sell a blue one, or is there a spot left for a blue one ?There are not any spots, but I have a gray one coming with a blue plate if you are interested.
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just small update https://imgur.com/a/yuBy8
i'm very busy this time, as New Chinese Year is coming in Viet Nam and China. and I'm really really stress on sorting E8-V1. I already paid about more than 2000$ for shipping by myself, then paypal hold all my money (and my friend money too - as I use my friend's account for invoice to you). PP keep reviewings our document for more than 2 months and even do not let me check my account now.
just small update https://imgur.com/a/yuBy8
i'm very busy this time, as New Chinese Year is coming in Viet Nam and China. and I'm really really stress on sorting E8-V1. I already paid about more than 2000$ for shipping by myself, then paypal hold all my money (and my friend money too - as I use my friend's account for invoice to you). PP keep reviewings our document for more than 2 months and even do not let me check my account now.
Thanks for the update kuang2.
I see in the Google sheet that mine (E6) is still listed as "Not Sort / No Address". I sent you an email a while back with my address. Is this spreadsheet still being used for updates?
Also, should I email you (eteam@kuang2.net) again to provide my address and willingness to pay for shipping?
Link to above mentioned google sheet for others that may not be able to find it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
I've seen many gb runners had problems with Paypal. Is there any other payment methods?From what I've heard asian group buys usually use MoneyGram. However they offer no buyer protection. Stripe is an option but I don't know much about them other than they do offer buyer protection
I've seen many gb runners had problems with Paypal. Is there any other payment methods?From what I've heard asian group buys usually use MoneyGram. However they offer no buyer protection. Stripe is an option but I don't know much about them other than they do offer buyer protection
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I've seen many gb runners had problems with Paypal. Is there any other payment methods?From what I've heard asian group buys usually use MoneyGram. However they offer no buyer protection. Stripe is an option but I don't know much about them other than they do offer buyer protection
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free coiled cable only if you choose non-detachable
free coiled cable only if you choose non-detachable
has anyone gotten their free cable? I didnt get mine when I got my board I was just happy to get my board. This post reminded me about the free cable
Why has E6-V2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90787) made more progress than E8-V1 despite starting 5 months later?
Kuang2, can we please get an update as to where we stand with shipping? I see that you'e frequently been active on here but you don't respond to us. Sent you another email.
Why has E6-V2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90787) made more progress than E8-V1 despite starting 5 months later?
Kuang2, can we please get an update as to where we stand with shipping? I see that you'e frequently been active on here but you don't respond to us. Sent you another email.
Starting later is the answer as well unfortunately. Thanks to E8, Exclusive figured out that jhoang was dead or a sack of **** before E6 got very far and took the buy over. E8 had been produced and shipped by that time.
I don't think that excuses Kuang, but OTOH he doesn't really owe you anything unless you've paid him.
It's a ****ty situation all around.
Let's hope he picks up the pace with shipping out the boards, once the Chinese New Year is over.
Let's hope he picks up the pace with shipping out the boards, once the Chinese New Year is over.
Did anyone get an extra rose gold name plate? Mine was missing, willing to trade another color for it if you have one (I got one of each color).
Did anyone get an extra rose gold name plate? Mine was missing, willing to trade another color for it if you have one (I got one of each color).
i still have some
Did anyone else buy tuned Vintage blacks from Kuang? What is your experience with them?
I'm finding them to be a lot more scratchy than my other Vintage Blacks. I am using SA caps for the first time, so maybe they're contributing to that, but not sure. Anyone else?
Did anyone else buy tuned Vintage blacks from Kuang? What is your experience with them?Mine were really good and smooth.
I'm finding them to be a lot more scratchy than my other Vintage Blacks. I am using SA caps for the first time, so maybe they're contributing to that, but not sure. Anyone else?
I still have not heard back from Kuang2 about my order E47 is it being shipped out soon?
Hello,Is it possible to get blank nameplates instead of what I had originally ordered for my engraving?
Long time no update to you. Today I finish to sort all the keyboard as your order. then engrave workshop make a big fail to me:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sFYKsQC.jpg)
but I can happy to tell you that now I can ship any order in about 2-3 days, due to waiting for engrave new nameplate as your order.
to mmdango: i will email my proxy in US, i'm happy to refund all the switches that you feel not good. Feel free to email me about that.
Hello,
Long time no update to you. Today I finish to sort all the keyboard as your order. then engrave workshop make a big fail to me:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sFYKsQC.jpg)
but I can happy to tell you that now I can ship any order in about 2-3 days, due to waiting for engrave new nameplate as your order.
to mmdango: i will email my proxy in US, i'm happy to refund all the switches that you feel not good. Feel free to email me about that.
Hello,
Long time no update to you. Today I finish to sort all the keyboard as your order. then engrave workshop make a big fail to me:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sFYKsQC.jpg)
but I can happy to tell you that now I can ship any order in about 2-3 days, due to waiting for engrave new nameplate as your order.
to mmdango: i will email my proxy in US, i'm happy to refund all the switches that you feel not good. Feel free to email me about that.
Hello,
Long time no update to you. Today I finish to sort all the keyboard as your order. then engrave workshop make a big fail to me:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sFYKsQC.jpg)
but I can happy to tell you that now I can ship any order in about 2-3 days, due to waiting for engrave new nameplate as your order.
to mmdango: i will email my proxy in US, i'm happy to refund all the switches that you feel not good. Feel free to email me about that.
Hello Kuang2,
Any updates?
So, 3 emails without any replies for an order that was supposedly in the next batch.
What happened?
e8 vs dolphin
who will ship first
lul
e8 vs dolphin
who will ship first
lul
I'll take that bet. An Amigo's burger to the winner!
Please.
Any update is appreciated. This was a gift for a friend and now its long overdue ._.
I'll pay the shipping again -- please respond to our emails :-\
Please.
Any update is appreciated. This was a gift for a friend and now its long overdue ._.
I'll pay the shipping again -- please respond to our emails :-\
That's all I ask right now, is a response.
Kuang shipped 2 order E8 on Monday
https://imgur.com/gallery/g72kN
So, 3 emails without any replies for an order that was supposedly in the next batch.
What happened?
I never get any replies from email, but I keep sending them periodically.
Has anyone here gotten replies to emails about shipping?
Kuang shipped 2 order E8 on Monday
https://imgur.com/gallery/g72kN
Well that's good news. Where did you see that posted?
I'm surprised he's doing assembly and shipping those boards before shipping the ones that don't need assembly.
Kuang shipped 2 order E8 on Monday
https://imgur.com/gallery/g72kN
Kuang shipped 2 order E8 on Monday
https://imgur.com/gallery/g72kN
Never received the tracking number. still awaiting email reply from him.
i will contact Quang ask the progress
i will contact Quang ask the progress
The fact that boards that required assembly are being shipped out before boards that didn't is beyond me.
The fact that boards that required assembly are being shipped out before boards that didn't is beyond me.
This is what confuses me the most :confused:
The fact that boards that required assembly are being shipped out before boards that didn't is beyond me.
This is what confuses me the most :confused:
Not confusing when you consider that Kuang makes money from assembly.
i will contact Quang ask the progress
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
I am starting to think we might need to stop asking for updates so nicely.
http://www.automailsender.com/auto-mail-sender-standard-edition.htm
maihanh@kuang2.net
eteam@kuang2.net
First johang drops off the map.
Then quang follows suit.
So all we have left is exclusive...who can only ATTEMPT to contact either?
That’s some bull **** right there. Goodbye money. I even got suckered into giving more for assembly. Guess it’s my fault for putting faith in a one off group buy.
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
Anyone here have a spare red plate theyre willing to sell? Mine's borked.
Anyone here have a spare red plate theyre willing to sell? Mine's borked.
Dude, most of us are still trying to figure out when/IF we're going to get our boards, let along having spare parts...
Anyone here have a spare red plate theyre willing to sell? Mine's borked.
Dude, most of us are still trying to figure out when/IF we're going to get our boards, let along having spare parts...
Damn, do we know how many were left to ship prior to his disappearance? I haven't kept up with the thread, but that sounds like ass
Anyone here have a spare red plate theyre willing to sell? Mine's borked.
Dude, most of us are still trying to figure out when/IF we're going to get our boards, let along having spare parts...
Damn, do we know how many were left to ship prior to his disappearance? I haven't kept up with the thread, but that sounds like ass
I think quite a few.
excluisve seemed to have stepped in at one point, but nothing happened.
Anyone here have a spare red plate theyre willing to sell? Mine's borked.
Dude, most of us are still trying to figure out when/IF we're going to get our boards, let along having spare parts...
Damn, do we know how many were left to ship prior to his disappearance? I haven't kept up with the thread, but that sounds like ass
I think quite a few.
excluisve seemed to have stepped in at one point, but nothing happened.
Hell, I have seen pictures of my board and still don't have it....
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
Anyone here have a spare red plate theyre willing to sell? Mine's borked.
Dude, most of us are still trying to figure out when/IF we're going to get our boards, let along having spare parts...
Damn, do we know how many were left to ship prior to his disappearance? I haven't kept up with the thread, but that sounds like ass
I think quite a few.
excluisve seemed to have stepped in at one point, but nothing happened.
Hell, I have seen pictures of my board and still don't have it....
Damn. I don't even know where in the list I am
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
If only mine were one of those three....... :(
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
If only mine were one of those three....... :(
I can't tell if mine (E6) is in the middle of the right stack or not =/
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
If only mine were one of those three....... :(
I can't tell if mine (E6) is in the middle of the right stack or not =/
E6 ???, all of those stacks are E8. EX ships E6, not Kuang
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
If only mine were one of those three....... :(
I can't tell if mine (E6) is in the middle of the right stack or not =/
E6 ???, all of those stacks are E8. EX ships E6, not Kuang
I'm pretty sure he is talking about his order ID from this spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
same question.....please -_-;
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
same question.....please -_-;
i think you should send another email
...but:
some of you guys sent email, told him that you would pay shipping fee and you wanted to see your board/your order before paying
Kuang did what you want, took photo your board/ your order, send email with photo but no reply from you
1 or many weeks later, you sent email again and request photo again
It makes him tired because he has his own business
I have leave message ,haven’t reply me yet about e8i will contact Quang ask the progress
any update? ..
Quang didn't receive your message, you should send message again
His sons, they are sick (hand foot mouth disease) so he has no time to check email or ship E8
cuongnt91, you seem to be the only person that has been able to get an update recently. Do your know what's going on here?
someone gonna receive their board
Whoa! Shipping!! Thanks for the update cuongnt91!
I'm not sure how in the loop you are, but I've sent multiple emails with shipping address and willingness to pay shipping. Should I send another email/pm?
If only mine were one of those three....... :(
I can't tell if mine (E6) is in the middle of the right stack or not =/
E6 ???, all of those stacks are E8. EX ships E6, not Kuang
I'm pretty sure he is talking about his order ID from this spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Yes indeed. Order number E6
i think you should send another email
...but:
some of you guys sent email, told him that you would pay shipping fee and you wanted to see your board/your order before paying
Kuang did what you want, took photo your board/ your order, send email with photo but no reply from you
1 or many weeks later, you sent email again and request photo again
It makes him tired because he has his own business
I didn't request a picture or anything of the sort, but kuang never invoiced me for the shipping, I re-sent the email, as per your instruction, to eteam@kuang2.net
Yes indeed. Order number E6
Well, mine is in there, E82. I was away from the forum for awhile, and I just noticed something when I checked the spreadsheet. There is now a column for "Willing to pay shipping fee." I am listed as "unsure." I obviously missed something here. I paid for shipping a year and a half ago! What the hell is that all about?
I've already said it in a couple of emails, but I'm definitely willing to pay the shipping cost.
I've already said it in a couple of emails, but I'm definitely willing to pay the shipping cost.
OK, so what are the additional shipping costs? I guess I don't have a choice since the boards are basically being held hostage at this point.
I've already said it in a couple of emails, but I'm definitely willing to pay the shipping cost.
OK, so what are the additional shipping costs? I guess I don't have a choice since the boards are basically being held hostage at this point.
Yea, I know right! Idk how much it is. Probably like $50 ish
I've already said it in a couple of emails, but I'm definitely willing to pay the shipping cost.
OK, so what are the additional shipping costs? I guess I don't have a choice since the boards are basically being held hostage at this point.
Yea, I know right! Idk how much it is. Probably like $50 ish
shipping was $70 when i paid again for mine back in november 2017
I've already said it in a couple of emails, but I'm definitely willing to pay the shipping cost.
OK, so what are the additional shipping costs? I guess I don't have a choice since the boards are basically being held hostage at this point.
Yea, I know right! Idk how much it is. Probably like $50 ish
shipping was $70 when i paid again for mine back in november 2017
Ahh, thanks for letting me know. Now I know what to expect when kuang eventually responds to me.
I am sure that this was brought up way back when, but why are we having to pay for shipping twice? Something about the new guy couldn’t get the money from the original group organizer. This whole thing has already been running me the wrong way for months, and this certainly isn’t helping. If only I could get my money back (sigh.)
I am sure that this was brought up way back when, but why are we having to pay for shipping twice? Something about the new guy couldn’t get the money from the original group organizer. This whole thing has already been running me the wrong way for months, and this certainly isn’t helping. If only I could get my money back (sigh.)
I mean UsualSuspectXXX answered your question the other time you asked it but I will answer it again. Hope you read it this time.
Jhoang has the money. No one can get to it. Luckily the boards were retrieved by Kuang. He's not going to pay for the shipping of your board.
The only people who didn't have to pay double shipping are the ones who disputed their board with Paypal prior to the 180 day deadline and then repurchased form Kuang. AFAIK, I might be the only one.
I am sure that this was brought up way back when, but why are we having to pay for shipping twice? Something about the new guy couldn’t get the money from the original group organizer. This whole thing has already been running me the wrong way for months, and this certainly isn’t helping. If only I could get my money back (sigh.)
I mean UsualSuspectXXX answered your question the other time you asked it but I will answer it again. Hope you read it this time.
Jhoang has the money. No one can get to it. Luckily the boards were retrieved by Kuang. He's not going to pay for the shipping of your board.
The only people who didn't have to pay double shipping are the ones who disputed their board with Paypal prior to the 180 day deadline and then repurchased form Kuang. AFAIK, I might be the only one.
Thank you for the information, but not the smart ass-edness. The only thing I know for a fact is that all of this has left an incredibly bad taste in my mouth. I am sorry for Kuang's troubles, I really am, and I hope he is doing better. However, this was a business transaction. We all take a risk with these buys, that is a given, but generally speaking, most organizers have some sort of a backup plan. Maybe things are different overseas, but it absolutely blows my mind that he cannot retrieve the money for the shipping. What is happening to the original money we paid for shipping? Is it just being pocketed by Kuang?
I don't know if you saw my earlier posts some time back, but I sold my spot in this buy. The guy I sold my spot to decided to dispute our PayPal transaction two weeks before Christmas, never mind that I was not the one shipping the boards. Thanks to this buy I had almost 600 pulled out of my account before doing my Christmas shopping for my two little girls. So, yeah, I am a little bitter. Now having to pay more money on top of it to get a board that I tried to sell the spot for? Even if I sell it I am still losing my ass. Methinks this is my last group buy on this forum or any other. Simply not worth the risk, hassle, and bad feelings this one has generated. If I see something I want I will just wait and buy it from whoever inevitably will want to sell it.
This isn't the first time I have seen an actual photograph of my board. I am not holding my breath that I will be receiving it any time soon.
If I never payed for shipping for additional shipping, do I PM Kuang2 or someone else to pay for shipping?
If I never payed for shipping for additional shipping, do I PM Kuang2 or someone else to pay for shipping?
Email Kuang and tell me your slot number
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Is kuang going to send an invoice for shipping? Or am I supposed to just gift it to him?
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Is kuang going to send an invoice for shipping? Or am I supposed to just gift it to him?
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Is kuang going to send an invoice for shipping? Or am I supposed to just gift it to him?
No he isn't
You send 75usd to his PP
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Is kuang going to send an invoice for shipping? Or am I supposed to just gift it to him?
You can send money for "goods and services" yourself, not just "gift". It's unclear if the $75 is net to him or not.
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Is kuang going to send an invoice for shipping? Or am I supposed to just gift it to him?
You can send money for "goods and services" yourself, not just "gift". It's unclear if the $75 is net to him or not.
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Is kuang going to send an invoice for shipping? Or am I supposed to just gift it to him?
You can send money for "goods and services" yourself, not just "gift". It's unclear if the $75 is net to him or not.
thank you, i dont use PP so i dont understand what "gift" mean
75USD is 100% shipping fee
Shipping fee in Viet Nam is ab 1,700,000 VND, bank rate VND/USD is ab 22,600 VND/ 1USD
I don't know if international paypal fee has changed recently, but if it's still 3.9% + $0.30, then you should send $78.36 as goods and services payment for kuang to receive $75. Can round it to $79 if you want.
If I never payed for shipping for additional shipping, do I PM Kuang2 or someone else to pay for shipping?
If I never payed for shipping for additional shipping, do I PM Kuang2 or someone else to pay for shipping?
Kuang got your money but he doesn't know your information
plz email him or PM me
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
I have private messaged you about which steps to take to get my board shipped, E65. Please respond when you can, thanks.
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Told Kuang about E-6 and E-33. 2 guys who are ready to pay shipping fee again.
shipping fee is 75USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
Can you confirm that kuang has received my payment and has all necessary information to ship.
Are things finally moving along? I hope so!
Kuang confirmed that he received money of 4 people in picture blow ( E6-33-65 and olijuice - what's your ID? E85? )
and T-Mootypus (E39) : you receive your E8 but still don't pay shipping fee
shipping fee is 79USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
thank you
Kuang confirmed that he received money of 4 people in picture blow ( E6-33-65 and olijuice - what's your ID? E85? )
and T-Mootypus (E39) : you receive your E8 but still don't pay shipping fee
shipping fee is 79USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
thank you
So I emailed Kuang about wanting to pay shipping and a address change but I have received a reply back yet. Should I just send him the shipping fee and put my info the notes section?
Kuang confirmed that he received money of 4 people in picture blow ( E6-33-65 and olijuice - what's your ID? E85? )
and T-Mootypus (E39) : you receive your E8 but still don't pay shipping fee
shipping fee is 79USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
thank you
Kuang confirmed that he received money of 4 people in picture blow ( E6-33-65 and olijuice - what's your ID? E85? )
and T-Mootypus (E39) : you receive your E8 but still don't pay shipping fee
shipping fee is 79USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
thank you
Kuang confirmed that he received money of 4 people in picture blow ( E6-33-65 and olijuice - what's your ID? E85? )
and T-Mootypus (E39) : you receive your E8 but still don't pay shipping fee
shipping fee is 79USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
thank you
Kuang confirmed that he received money of 4 people in picture blow ( E6-33-65 and olijuice - what's your ID? E85? )
and T-Mootypus (E39) : you receive your E8 but still don't pay shipping fee
shipping fee is 79USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
thank you
great news, thank you for this -- please let us know when we can expect shipping.
Is there any way to confirm that my order is complete? I would prefer to know that before I pay for shipping. The last I heard (which was quite some time ago) was that I was still waiting on a second PCB and plate as well as the engraved name plates. The order number is E82. Spreadsheet says ready to ship, but I would prefer to confirm.
Thanks in advance.
Is there any way to confirm that my order is complete? I would prefer to know that before I pay for shipping. The last I heard (which was quite some time ago) was that I was still waiting on a second PCB and plate as well as the engraved name plates. The order number is E82. Spreadsheet says ready to ship, but I would prefer to confirm.
Thanks in advance.
PM me what you ordered then i will ask Kuang when he comes home this weekend
Is there any way to confirm that my order is complete? I would prefer to know that before I pay for shipping. The last I heard (which was quite some time ago) was that I was still waiting on a second PCB and plate as well as the engraved name plates. The order number is E82. Spreadsheet says ready to ship, but I would prefer to confirm.
Thanks in advance.
PM me what you ordered then i will ask Kuang when he comes home this weekend
Next Tuesday maybe because he is busy until Friday/Saturday
Is there any way to confirm that my order is complete? I would prefer to know that before I pay for shipping. The last I heard (which was quite some time ago) was that I was still waiting on a second PCB and plate as well as the engraved name plates. The order number is E82. Spreadsheet says ready to ship, but I would prefer to confirm.
Thanks in advance.
PM me what you ordered then i will ask Kuang when he comes home this weekend
Thanks for the quick response! PM with details has been sent.
@cuongnt91, what's up here?
Shipping payment has been confirmed, check
Have they been shipped yet?
If not, do we have an eta on shipping?
Is there any way to confirm that my order is complete? I would prefer to know that before I pay for shipping. The last I heard (which was quite some time ago) was that I was still waiting on a second PCB and plate as well as the engraved name plates. The order number is E82. Spreadsheet says ready to ship, but I would prefer to confirm.
Thanks in advance.
PM me what you ordered then i will ask Kuang when he comes home this weekend
Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
Sorry I haven't read through all the posts. Is the GB dead?Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
I mean odds are you wouldn't have received it and will so there's that.
Sorry I haven't read through all the posts. Is the GB dead?Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
I mean odds are you wouldn't have received it and will so there's that.
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Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
I mean odds are you wouldn't have received it and will so there's that.
Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
I mean odds are you wouldn't have received it and will so there's that.
I would be laughing my ass off at that if I weren't too busy crying.
Sorry I haven't read through all the posts. Is the GB dead?Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
I mean odds are you wouldn't have received it and will so there's that.
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Sorry I haven't read through all the posts. Is the GB dead?Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
I mean odds are you wouldn't have received it and will so there's that.
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sorta kinda
i think there are a few still left to ship out
Sorry I haven't read through all the posts. Is the GB dead?Great looking board! kinda regretting not getting in when i had the chance :-\
I mean odds are you wouldn't have received it and will so there's that.
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sorta kinda
i think there are a few still left to ship out
pretty sure he's only shipped 10ish orders so far, with 10ish more "soon". not sure total number of orders, but i think it was 70 something
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Weekend has come and gone, can you please confirm shipment, tracking?
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Weekend has come and gone, can you please confirm shipment, tracking?
Hey! I just came here to ask the same thing
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Weekend has come and gone, can you please confirm shipment, tracking?
Hey! I just came here to ask the same thing
Desperately hoping they were actually sent out... :(
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Weekend has come and gone, can you please confirm shipment, tracking?
Hey! I just came here to ask the same thing
Desperately hoping they were actually sent out... :(
Me too. It's only been a little while, a dozen emails and PMs, and *maybe* ours have shipped.
How did you guys pay for the shipping fees? did Kuang send you an invoice or you just send the money to him?
Sould I just wait for him to send an invoice or just send the money to him?
you should send him shipping fee + your info
and PM me : your ID, what you order and your information ( full name, address)
shipping fee is 79USD
paypal: maihanh@kuang2.net
thank you
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Alright. just sent the money, thanks man. hope things will go well
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
...... :blank:
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
...... :blank:
Well I guess we've got 5 - 6 months to dispute the shipping change.....
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
how is it that exclusive can continue to make groupbuys (E7-V1, E6-V2) for their keyboards when so many orders from E8-V1 are outstanding?
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
how is it that exclusive can continue to make groupbuys (E7-V1, E6-V2) for their keyboards when so many orders from E8-V1 are outstanding?
Because Exclusive did their part here. They weren't running GBs themselves at that point. This cluster**** is jhoang's fault.
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
how is it that exclusive can continue to make groupbuys (E7-V1, E6-V2) for their keyboards when so many orders from E8-V1 are outstanding?
Because Exclusive did their part here. They weren't running GBs themselves at that point. This cluster**** is jhoang's fault.
Okay I understand -- but there has to be more they can do on their end instead of leaving their early adopters in the dust :confused:
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
how is it that exclusive can continue to make groupbuys (E7-V1, E6-V2) for their keyboards when so many orders from E8-V1 are outstanding?
Because Exclusive did their part here. They weren't running GBs themselves at that point. This cluster**** is jhoang's fault.
Okay I understand -- but there has to be more they can do on their end instead of leaving their early adopters in the dust :confused:
Yes you're frustrated but this desperation is very clearly leaking into the wrong avenue...
Throwing shade at exclusive in CHINA when you literally know that your board is sitting with kuang in VIETNAM.
Kuang will ship in this Weekend for who PMed me and paid shipping fee again (he told me last night)
how is it that exclusive can continue to make groupbuys (E7-V1, E6-V2) for their keyboards when so many orders from E8-V1 are outstanding?
Because Exclusive did their part here. They weren't running GBs themselves at that point. This cluster**** is jhoang's fault.
Okay I understand -- but there has to be more they can do on their end instead of leaving their early adopters in the dust :confused:
I am not giving up hope. I saw my address on a box that was keyboard shaped in a picture recently. How hard is it to slap a postage sticker on it and drop it in the mail? Apparently quite hard.
I mean it’s not like he would “stage” a picture like that just to squeeze the last little bit out of this thing. Con a few more people out of postage ?
Nah doesn’t seem like that. But then again I don’t know what this seems like.
Even if it takes years to complete I would still very much like/want/need the item I payed for. Even if it comes in pieces and doesn’t work. I just want something for my money dammit.
Who ever we have left to count on this getting completed, please, please, please follow through. Even if it takes years. Eventually getting something done is better than ****ing stealing everyone’s god damn money!
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I am not giving up hope. I saw my address on a box that was keyboard shaped in a picture recently. How hard is it to slap a postage sticker on it and drop it in the mail? Apparently quite hard.
I mean it’s not like he would “stage” a picture like that just to squeeze the last little bit out of this thing. Con a few more people out of postage ?
Nah doesn’t seem like that. But then again I don’t know what this seems like.
Even if it takes years to complete I would still very much like/want/need the item I payed for. Even if it comes in pieces and doesn’t work. I just want something for my money dammit.
Who ever we have left to count on this getting completed, please, please, please follow through. Even if it takes years. Eventually getting something done is better than ****ing stealing everyone’s god damn money!
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Please don't say years ='[
Sorry to interrupt the conversation, but has anyone gotten the LEDs on the top left to work? I also cannot get the caps lock LED to turn on (or toggle for that matter).
So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
Did you get any kind of tracking info, or did it just show up?So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
Did you get any kind of tracking info, or did it just show up?So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
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So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
Whoot! Congrats!
Did you get any kind of tracking info, or did it just show up?So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
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He didn't gave me the tracking number. ****e just showed up at my doorstep on Saturday after paying the shipping fees about a month ago.
So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
it's very good to hear that
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
I was holding off on sending more money until things started moving. Looks like I'll be sending in the shipping fees this night when I get home.
it's very good to hear that
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
I was holding off on sending more money until things started moving. Looks like I'll be sending in the shipping fees this night when I get home.
As per cuongnt91's comment. I'd hold off for now.it's very good to hear that
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
I was holding off on sending more money until things started moving. Looks like I'll be sending in the shipping fees this night when I get home.
As per cuongnt91's comment. I'd hold off for now.it's very good to hear that
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
I see. Thank you very much since it seems that escaped my sight.
Here's hoping it's smooth sailing from here on out.
So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
it's very good to hear that
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
Holy shiet. I just got a text from DHL that a package from "POS INDONESIA" is arriving on Tuesday.
I assume kuang is shipping via DHL, as I can't remember ordering anything recently from Indonesia.
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
Any update here?
Is Kuang still updating this Google sheet?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/htmlview#
Sorry to interrupt the conversation, but has anyone gotten the LEDs on the top left to work? I also cannot get the caps lock LED to turn on (or toggle for that matter).
So, are we supposed to just... accept our losses at this point?
Just received my board yesterday, Thank God. Hope you will receive yours soon :)
it's very good to hear that
i have not contacted with Kuang for many weeks so i had nothing to update
At the moment, STOP paying shipping fee again until i can contact with Kuang
Hope people who paid fee again and PMed me will get your board
Thank you so much for getting this going again. I'm holding off payment until you get in contact with him. I just want to build my last keyboard already :(
So, have we just completely given up at this point?
Any chance we can resurrect this thread and get kuang to come back?
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Well this is sad. My first custom premium board never happened :(Unfortunately the same thing for me.
Well this is sad. My first custom premium board never happened :(Unfortunately the same thing for me.
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Well this is sad. My first custom premium board never happened :(Unfortunately the same thing for me.
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If only I could've seen into the future and filed a PayPal claim...
You think they are just sitting around somewhere or do you think someone sold them off? I have mine. It's a nice color and I built it well. I feel guilty even using it.
great tkl race201720182019?
****ed up how this turned out, seemed so promising
and i know some people who, while they got their boards, would not be totally truthful to call them high quality
oh well
i hope the last few people get their boards so we can put this behind us and run better GBs
Does anyone know what size the case screws are? I just got one off MM and it is missing a few.
Those of you with the keyboard, what have you been using to reprogram it? There was an earlier discussion about using the Bootmapper client, but this PCB uses an ATMega32a controller. Looking at QMK, there are a bunch of Exclusive board layouts listed, but not E8-V1.
seems that our boards are just sitting around still. However we might get some help, hopefully.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ho18lw/keyboard_science_keylice_no2_when_tgr_and_keycult/fxf7wti/
seems that our boards are just sitting around still. However we might get some help, hopefully.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ho18lw/keyboard_science_keylice_no2_when_tgr_and_keycult/fxf7wti/
I'd lost hope of receiving mine at this point, but it'd be nice if it finally did come in.
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere. I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment. I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to? I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere. I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment. I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to? I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.
the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com
Well, crap. Nothing under that name. Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!
Do you have an email of your payment? I just tried to look for in PayPal but it only let me go as far as July 2017. Which my invoice is dated for February 2017.So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere. I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment. I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to? I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.
the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com
Well, crap. Nothing under that name. Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!
Do you have an email of your payment? I just tried to look for in PayPal but it only let me go as far as July 2017. Which my invoice is dated for February 2017.So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere. I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment. I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to? I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.
the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com
Well, crap. Nothing under that name. Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!
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Do you have an email of your payment? I just tried to look for in PayPal but it only let me go as far as July 2017. Which my invoice is dated for February 2017.So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere. I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment. I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to? I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.
the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com
Well, crap. Nothing under that name. Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Good call. I found the invoice but it just says that it has been updated.
Hi Peeps,
Just thought I would drop a message here as reddit private inbox really sucks .... If you prefer to go discord, you can give me a hello at Insomnium#7656 as well :)
Anyway, Firstly, I'm not JHoang, so please don't think I'm his clone haha, as far as I know, JHoang and his buddy disappeared from the local community way before I joined and met Kuang2 sometimes around 2018.
Secondly, while I understand with all that happened, trust is not something that's easy to be given out, and I would totally feel the same if I'm in your position, but I kindly ask you to trust that I'm trying my best to have some closure to this project, so that Kuang2 name can be freed from this project.
Back to the topic at hand, I have discussed with Kuang2, and he and I both agreed to work together and try to ship the remaining orders that are yet to be fulfilled. Please understand that a long time has passed, and as I explained on reddit, Kuang2 does not have the record list of orders from JHoang, as Kuang is not the group buy runner. The keyboards have been sitting on his warehouse for a long time, so to ship it, he will need to check the condition of the boards, do some cleaning, and find all the extra parts (if applicable) to your orders, and then we need to buffer for communication time between I - Kuang2 - You as I do not live in Vietnam, hence it will take some time for the board to be shipped out. With that in mind, this is how we propose to move forward:
1. We will prioritize those that have paid shipping to Kuang2 first, so please provide me with the following information: Order ID, Color Option, Current Address and screenshot for order payment and shipping payment. Email of invoice is fine as well.
2. If you have not pay for shipping, we will handle your order after we finished resolving those that already paid for shipping.
3. As I mentioned previously, due to Kuang2 not having the record list of orders, so he has no way of knowing who has paid or has refunded, so he is not in the position to know or prevent anyone who has refunded yet still want to claim his spot in this project, leading to a missing unit for someone else who did not claim refund. In this situation, to us, it's going to be a he said she said situation, where from our side, we claim that we had never sold off/flip a board from the existing stock, while from the customers side, you can claim that you had never demanded a refund. So I would ask everyone to operate in a trust basis, where we will keep a record of those we have fulfilled the boards from this point onward, and if there is any dispute from missing order, I will direct the dispute to everyone who has received your boards to try and look for your order there ...
4. We guaranteed that you will receive a complete TKL kit, which includes a case, plate and PCB. For those that have paid for extra options, we will handle it on case by case basis, and priority will be given to those that have documented proof.
If you have any questions, feel free to dm me through reddit/gh or discord. I'm happy to help :)
Hi Peeps,
Just thought I would drop a message here as reddit private inbox really sucks .... If you prefer to go discord, you can give me a hello at Insomnium#7656 as well :)
Anyway, Firstly, I'm not JHoang, so please don't think I'm his clone haha, as far as I know, JHoang and his buddy disappeared from the local community way before I joined and met Kuang2 sometimes around 2018.
Secondly, while I understand with all that happened, trust is not something that's easy to be given out, and I would totally feel the same if I'm in your position, but I kindly ask you to trust that I'm trying my best to have some closure to this project, so that Kuang2 name can be freed from this project.
Back to the topic at hand, I have discussed with Kuang2, and he and I both agreed to work together and try to ship the remaining orders that are yet to be fulfilled. Please understand that a long time has passed, and as I explained on reddit, Kuang2 does not have the record list of orders from JHoang, as Kuang is not the group buy runner. The keyboards have been sitting on his warehouse for a long time, so to ship it, he will need to check the condition of the boards, do some cleaning, and find all the extra parts (if applicable) to your orders, and then we need to buffer for communication time between I - Kuang2 - You as I do not live in Vietnam, hence it will take some time for the board to be shipped out. With that in mind, this is how we propose to move forward:
1. We will prioritize those that have paid shipping to Kuang2 first, so please provide me with the following information: Order ID, Color Option, Current Address and screenshot for order payment and shipping payment via geekhack/reddit/discord pm. Picture of your invoice's email is fine as well.
2. If you have not pay for shipping, we will handle your order after we finished resolving those that already paid for shipping.
3. As I mentioned previously, due to Kuang2 not having the record list of orders, so he has no way of knowing who has paid or has refunded, so he is not in the position to know or prevent anyone who has refunded yet still want to claim his spot in this project, leading to a missing unit for someone else who did not claim refund. In this situation, to us, it's going to be a he said she said situation, where from our side, we claim that we had never sold off/flip a board from the existing stock, while from the customers side, you can claim that you had never demanded a refund. So I would ask everyone to operate in a trust basis, where we will keep a record of those we have fulfilled the boards from this point onward, and if there is any dispute from missing order, I will direct the dispute to everyone who has received your boards to try and look for your order there ...
4. We guaranteed that you will receive a complete TKL kit, which includes a case, plate and PCB. For those that have paid for extra options, we will handle it on case by case basis, and priority will be given to those that have documented proof.
If you have any questions, feel free to dm me through reddit/gh or discord. I'm happy to help :)
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere. I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment. I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to? I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere. I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment. I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0
Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to? I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.
Someone named Nam Hoang in February 2017.
I am not finding anything in my email with the maihanh@kuang2.net email address in regards to paypal. I am sure that I paid for shipping, and it is possible that the email was deleted after all this time. I can't imagine that I would not have paid for the shipping, especially after shelling out more than $600 for the board and the extras. I am not very keen on paying anything else, especially considering the track record of the GB. I feel like $600 plus a 3 year wait is enough.
I am not finding anything in my email with the maihanh@kuang2.net email address in regards to paypal. I am sure that I paid for shipping, and it is possible that the email was deleted after all this time. I can't imagine that I would not have paid for the shipping, especially after shelling out more than $600 for the board and the extras. I am not very keen on paying anything else, especially considering the track record of the GB. I feel like $600 plus a 3 year wait is enough.
I completely understand where you are coming from, but to be fair to Kuang he himself did not receive any money from you (via JHoang) to ship your keyboard either so imo, it would be unfair to ask him to bear the cost for a GB he did not run. As I stated in my first post, since you likely did not pay Kuang for the shipping ( I will ask Kuang to confirm this as well), may I ask you to wait and let me handle the the shipping for the other people who have paid Kuang first? I will also discuss with him on how to handle similar cases to yours to see if we can come to a resolution that will be fair to both party.
Anyone receive any updates whatsoever from Insomnium in regards to Kuang and their boards? :-\Haha just nice when I was about to post an update here ;D
Looks like I missed out :(Yeah, you're 3 years too late. Also with the issues with the original GB runner, you're lucky to not have joined this.
Imagine being happy about a GB that ship 5 years later
Imagine being happy about a GB that ship 5 years later
I have an E8v1 with a faulty pcb.
Either I damaged it [most likely] or it arrived DOA.
Any tips on getting a replacement or repairing this one? https://imgur.com/a/5U8ykeF
Hey puddsy, the pcb can plug in but doesnt power up. the device is recognized as plugged in but no keys work, leds dont turn on. i sent you a msg on disc also
There are so few people who actually own this board, so having only a handful of PCBs commissioned is gonna be expensive. However, I do own one and would be interested in buying a spare if you go down that road.