Post by: ogWalker on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:38:02
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PBT Hive
Group Buy Starts January 24th!
Design
So this set probably looks very familiar and that's because it is! GMK Yellowjacket was a shelved project by GTRX and I wanted to get it going again, but as a pbt keycap set instead of the originally planned GMK. I've made changes to the kits, colors and renamed the set Hive. The colors are all custom pantones. I hope you like it!
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Kits
Mega Kit $125 USD
(https://i.imgur.com/jkSxxJoh.jpg)
Core Kit $80 USD
(https://i.imgur.com/qMeAItP.jpg)
Monochrome Kit $35 USD
(https://i.imgur.com/PK5reCT.jpg)
Novelties Kit $12 USD!!
(https://i.imgur.com/rjxzhi0.jpg)
Renders by MetallicCharles & Pheonixstarr
TGR 910 RE
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Godspeed75
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Minivan
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669013193787441182/minivan-hive.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669013189903646730/minivan-darkPC.png)
Cygnus
(https://i.imgur.com/zUeBIEy.jpg)
Polaris
(https://i.imgur.com/JqQN1Ae.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LDLlMZz.jpg)
Vendors
US: https://thekey.company (https://thekey.company)
Canada! https://www.deskhero.ca (https://www.deskhero.ca)
EU: https://candykeys.com (https://candykeys.com)
Asia: https://ilumkb.com (https://ilumkb.com)
Oceania: https://dailyclack.com/ (https://dailyclack.com/)
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Post by: Obamas Mama on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:42:53
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Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:07:08
Post by: demonahz on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:08:58
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:16:03
I would like to see an international kit.
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Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:23:48
Post by: Emir on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:45:11
Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?
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Post by: Datastream on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:21:05
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:22:02
Eh, I didn't know ePBT were willing to reverse dyesub a whole set. That insane amount of QC it would take is probably not worth it for them.Haven't they done a black on grey kit before?
Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?
Then again they seem to be really inconsistent on what they can and can't do as of late.
Post by: Emir on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:24:55
Eh, I didn't know ePBT were willing to reverse dyesub a whole set. That insane amount of QC it would take is probably not worth it for them.Haven't they done a black on grey kit before?
Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?
Then again they seem to be really inconsistent on what they can and can't do as of late.
Black on grey can be dyesubbed normally, as it's not a lighter legend on dark background. This is Light legends on dark background, it can't be dyesubbed normally - which means it'd have to be done some other way, like reverse dyesub/allover-dyesub.
To my knowledge, ePBT have never done it, and probably for the reason that it's too much to do currently. They do reverse dyesub accent keys because it's a lot less work (I think for epbt kuro/shiro, or did they outsource?). If they leveled up and are willing to reverse dyesub whole sets now, then that would be awesome and opens up a lot of possibilities!
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:37:59
Eh, I didn't know ePBT were willing to reverse dyesub a whole set. That insane amount of QC it would take is probably not worth it for them.
Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?
Perhaps that will drive the set to use the white alphas after all?
(could I, then, buy a kit with just the mods? I wonder...)
Post by: stevenT on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:49:13
Post by: t0rk on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:03:33
Interest is price dependent.
Post by: nasp on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:11:30
Also, gotta say like usual, I'd love to see the 4 min. ortho keys in base or spacebars.
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:28:27
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:33:33
Cost estimate?
Interest is price dependent.
I mean ePBT sets are usually cheaper than GMK sets, and any cheaper alternative is appreciated. I hope to see more ePBT sets soon!
Post by: Gtrx on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:13:36
Count me in if ePBT can do it.
Also, gotta say like usual, I'd love to see the 4 min. ortho keys in base or spacebars.
I do like 40's kits ;P but I don't think there's going to be enough interest to make a 40's kit for this set.
Post by: Lelantos on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:24:37
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Post by: piit79 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 14:59:22
ortho kit please. epbt has ortho molds and its usually cheap.Yes please! I like the colourway a lot, but I'd really like an ortho kit if I'm to join.
I'm also curious about the reverse dye sub process - is there such ePBT set yet?
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:07:25
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:40:37
Post by: growler on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:57:40
Can ePBT deliver on the dyesub quality and lack of warp???
If so, I am on this like a tramp on chips.
growler
Post by: caronte0 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 16:14:10
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:41:31
BTW you have a typo in your banner logo: it says "EBPT" =P
Post by: DetectiveNio on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:42:55
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Post by: otanishock on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:50:00
I support this. :thumb:^ +1. i support this too. If you run, I'll be first in line to back your project.
Post by: ever9415 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:51:51
I want to buy if GB starts.
Post by: stevenT on Wed, 04 September 2019, 20:22:51
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Post by: konstantin on Thu, 05 September 2019, 02:45:01
Nice work but really doubt ePBT will do the whole set with reverse dyesub. OP should check with ePBT before going any further in this project.
I love the look. But my skeptical hippo eyes say that the reverse dye sub ain't happening. Kuro Shiro did it for like.. 2 keys (and from goks recent samples) had some minor issues.
Very much this. EPBT was reluctant to reverse dye sub even a couple of keys, doubt.png that doing an entire set is a possibility. Even if it were, the level of QC would have to be out of this world. I don't think EPBT is quite there yet.
Post by: enome on Thu, 05 September 2019, 18:39:21
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 05 September 2019, 19:02:08
Post by: tectonicplate on Thu, 05 September 2019, 22:44:32
• Curious to see samples if possible.
• Also request more ortho/odd support.
Post by: caronte0 on Fri, 06 September 2019, 04:52:03
Love the set.probably is still to soon to have any samples.
• Curious to see samples if possible.
• Also request more ortho/odd support.
The set looks awesome, pls make it happen
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 06 September 2019, 13:31:38
Agree. please make it happen. I have e-yellow polaris waiting for this set.Love the set.probably is still to soon to have any samples.
• Curious to see samples if possible.
• Also request more ortho/odd support.
The set looks awesome, pls make it happen
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Post by: tossedrightout on Sun, 08 September 2019, 18:28:49
Post by: vafan on Sun, 08 September 2019, 19:37:50
Post by: mwahlig on Sun, 08 September 2019, 22:12:32
Any chance at adding an ortho kit, similar to what was offered with ePBT greyscale?
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Post by: lookid on Mon, 09 September 2019, 04:02:45
Definitely, I'm in.
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 09 September 2019, 07:41:50
This looks great!
Any chance at adding an ortho kit, similar to what was offered with ePBT greyscale?
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Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 09 September 2019, 20:20:18
Post by: SeamansBeard on Tue, 10 September 2019, 01:39:11
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 10 September 2019, 01:52:47
Finally some yellow on black pbt! Add a international kit and I'am in!Add a baguette kit (ISO-FR) and I'm in as well !
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Post by: Nerdbot5000 on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:14:48
Post by: geekit on Thu, 12 September 2019, 04:22:52
It's been done (including double-shot PBT with various quality), but again, not easy to convince the vendor to do it.
Post by: Eyris on Fri, 13 September 2019, 04:12:43
Post by: growler on Fri, 13 September 2019, 04:51:38
Would be nice to know what their parameters are, so we know what ours are.
growler
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 13 September 2019, 05:03:26
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Post by: growler on Fri, 13 September 2019, 13:20:04
growler
Post by: _senya on Fri, 13 September 2019, 15:44:48
I'm going to need a suitably high end case for this, Fjell Pro or something, dammit!The yellow-white version of this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102334.0) should look good with this set.
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 13 September 2019, 17:51:54
btw, the OP image/graphic says eBPT, not ePBT.
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Fri, 13 September 2019, 20:33:19
I don't think I've seen the epbt profile in person before. What's it like? OEM?
btw, the OP image/graphic says eBPT, not ePBT.
ePBT = Enjoy PBT = Cherry profile.
that's a typo
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 13 September 2019, 22:33:24
Post by: growler on Sat, 14 September 2019, 04:09:25
Thabks, colour is nice! Not a fan of the fugly left cluster though, kills my key boner.I'm going to need a suitably high end case for this, Fjell Pro or something, dammit!The yellow-white version of this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102334.0) should look good with this set.
growler
Post by: ogWalker on Sat, 14 September 2019, 12:26:14
I wanted yellow jacket, but since it's shelved this one will work too. Although it would be more expensive to get the same look since you won't get white alphas in base. I might have to settle for just black, the base one. Is there any idea on price range?
Hopefully the prices will be on par with other pbt sets. Going to try to keep the base kit price as low as possible. :thumb:
Post by: ImaSpacePotato on Sun, 15 September 2019, 18:13:04
Post by: psxndc on Sun, 15 September 2019, 20:46:51
ePBT = Enjoy PBT = Cherry profile
Ahhhh, thanks. Any chance of a Colemak option?
btw, the OP image/graphic says eBPT, not ePBT.that's a typo
... Yes. That's what I figured and why I pointed it out in case you hadn't noticed. Just trying to be helpful.
Post by: yjchan27 on Mon, 16 September 2019, 01:22:01
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Post by: caronte0 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 11:50:13
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Post by: harlekein on Fri, 20 September 2019, 02:59:43
Post by: saint_james on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:32:17
Post by: lookid on Mon, 23 September 2019, 15:16:24
It will be nice to see it in base kit.
Post by: Dungo on Mon, 23 September 2019, 23:40:58
Post by: Slayer77 on Tue, 24 September 2019, 16:49:54
And please, if it possible, add 2U shift!
It will be nice to see it in base kit.
Yes please!
Post by: d4vid4f on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:10:24
With that in mind I made this the other day for the Alpha Keycaps Discord.
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Post by: SeamansBeard on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:46:48
Post by: ogWalker on Sun, 06 October 2019, 16:51:20
candykeys post a photo of the hive, is really happening?
Yes, Hive will happen sometime in the future. Will post an update soon with details
Post by: eniigma on Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:52:03
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Post by: piit79 on Mon, 07 October 2019, 00:55:30
also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT
Yeah, also wondering. I'm pretty sure the title used to say ePBT but was edited recently. Doubts about ePBT's reverse dye sub capabilities? ;)
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 07 October 2019, 10:40:32
Or could be marketing like PBT Heavy Industryalso, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT
Yeah, also wondering. I'm pretty sure the title used to say ePBT but was edited recently. Doubts about ePBT's reverse dye sub capabilities? ;)
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 07 October 2019, 10:49:39
also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT
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also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT
Yeah, also wondering. I'm pretty sure the title used to say ePBT but was edited recently. Doubts about ePBT's reverse dye sub capabilities? ;)
it will not be through ePBT. Just need to update the thread.
Post by: growler on Mon, 07 October 2019, 12:12:22
growler
Post by: DetectiveNio on Mon, 07 October 2019, 12:16:58
Oh no, don't tell me it's going to GMK and ABS .....
growler
We got Gold Rush for that already ;D Rather this set stay as PBT (infinikey like Santuary Rebirth maybe?)
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:58:58
Oh no, don't tell me it's going to GMK and ABS .....
growler
it is going to be a pbt set, i will announce details before the end of the month.
Post by: nma on Tue, 08 October 2019, 01:52:19
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Post by: growler on Fri, 11 October 2019, 14:45:02
growler
Post by: liangalv on Sun, 13 October 2019, 15:25:38
Post by: caronte0 on Mon, 14 October 2019, 04:17:27
Is there an expected GB date/ Kit Pricing ?there will be more deatils by the end of the month
Post by: lookid on Sun, 27 October 2019, 01:09:34
Any updates?
Post by: shoobopper on Sun, 27 October 2019, 17:11:25
yellow split spacebar set pls
Also, does anyone know a matching deskpad? If not, a hive novelkeys deskpad would be an instabuy
Post by: Dungo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 10:15:32
Post by: ogWalker on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:00:43
This set will be run on TheKey.Company through InfiniKey. Group Buy will kick off Q1 2020. More renders + deskmat coming soon!
Post by: nasp on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:43:15
Post by: piit79 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:43:59
Update 10/31Can't wait! Ne EU vendors avail?
This set will be run on TheKey.Company through InfiniKey. Group Buy will kick off Q1 2020. More renders + deskmat coming soon!
Post by: shoobopper on Fri, 01 November 2019, 00:07:12
Post by: caronte0 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 06:49:48
probably candykeysUpdate 10/31Can't wait! Ne EU vendors avail?
This set will be run on TheKey.Company through InfiniKey. Group Buy will kick off Q1 2020. More renders + deskmat coming soon!
Post by: Datastream on Fri, 01 November 2019, 09:34:36
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 02 November 2019, 01:06:12
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Sat, 02 November 2019, 07:26:18
Is the set kitting gonna be like the other Infinikey sets with one all inclusive base kit - i.e. sanctuary rebirth and bread?
We are working with the factory to see how much it will affect price by breaking it into smaller kits. If this works out, it will prove the idea and we will go that way moving forward. The new molds we designed should allow for it. Stay tuned!
Post by: vsrnth on Sat, 02 November 2019, 23:53:31
That'd make this an insta-buy.
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 03 November 2019, 03:23:02
We are working with the factory to see how much it will affect price by breaking it into smaller kits. If this works out, it will prove the idea and we will go that way moving forward. The new molds we designed should allow for it. Stay tuned!
Keeping my fingers crossed. I hope it works out and you'll be able to add an ortho kit - too often I miss out on these alternative sets because of lack of compatibility... Would love to get this one!
Post by: shoobopper on Sun, 03 November 2019, 03:30:57
Are there any plans to add a colevrak/colevrak+ kit to the GB?
That'd make this an insta-buy.
seconded. pining for yellow split spacebar as well
Post by: ref on Sun, 03 November 2019, 10:08:28
happy with base set, and the color.
plz add 3u in spacebarkit
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 03 November 2019, 11:21:16
double shot?Reverse dye-subbed PBT via InfiniKey I believe. Does anyone even do good quality double-shot PBT in cherry profile?
happy with base set, and the color.
plz add 3u in spacebarkit
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Sun, 03 November 2019, 12:01:59
double shot?Reverse dye-subbed PBT via InfiniKey I believe. Does anyone even do good quality double-shot PBT in cherry profile?
happy with base set, and the color.
plz add 3u in spacebarkit
Not yet, but in 2020 Infinikey will be able to :-)
Post by: mwahlig on Sun, 03 November 2019, 15:56:56
Post by: caronte0 on Tue, 05 November 2019, 05:30:41
+1Are there any plans to add a colevrak/colevrak+ kit to the GB?
That'd make this an insta-buy.
seconded. pining for yellow split spacebar as well
Post by: piit79 on Tue, 05 November 2019, 05:36:11
Are these the final kits or is there still a chance of adding an ortho/40s kit?Second that, please add an 40s/ortho kit!
Post by: MrBIGEURO on Tue, 05 November 2019, 12:08:16
The Base Kit looks great, only wish could add a couple white keys to that set. But otherwise, I could swing add-on Monochrome.
Hope the price works out well.
Post by: Datastream on Thu, 14 November 2019, 06:19:31
Post by: KawabataLuis on Thu, 14 November 2019, 17:12:52
Post by: itskitsos on Sun, 01 December 2019, 13:02:29
Very interested in deskmat design.
Post by: Slayer77 on Thu, 05 December 2019, 15:21:39
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Post by: ogWalker on Thu, 05 December 2019, 16:15:34
Ne Asia proxy avail?
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currently waiting on samples to approve colors, then will announce vendors and gb date
Post by: kaisn on Thu, 05 December 2019, 18:44:59
Post by: growler on Sat, 07 December 2019, 06:33:14
growler
Post by: chris_1865 on Thu, 26 December 2019, 03:50:44
Post by: infinitykw on Fri, 27 December 2019, 00:39:30
Post by: Cruxx_. on Fri, 27 December 2019, 04:16:47
currently waiting on samples to approve colors, then will announce vendors and gb date
It's been so long, the wait will kill me :(
Post by: Tennstrong on Sat, 28 December 2019, 05:22:03
Post by: growler on Sat, 28 December 2019, 06:10:15
I think this was always going to be PBT, simce ABS looks nice until you use it for a week, so presumably that's why GMK is out as they don't do PBT.
growler
Post by: lolafineday on Sat, 28 December 2019, 06:13:50
Forgive my ignorance, but if ePBT is better, why not .... just use them? The manufacturer makes money on these runs I'd imagine, so if they can do it, why would any of them say no?Because epbt doesnt want to do reverse dye sub. Check out the recent kuro shiro buy.
I think this was always going to be PBT, simce ABS looks nice until you use it for a week, so presumably that's why GMK is out as they don't do PBT.
growler
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Post by: growler on Sat, 28 December 2019, 06:15:45
Makes sense, so current manufacturer makes total sense then it would seem.Forgive my ignorance, but if ePBT is better, why not .... just use them? The manufacturer makes money on these runs I'd imagine, so if they can do it, why would any of them say no?Because epbt doesnt want to do reverse dye sub. Check out the recent kuro shiro buy.
I think this was always going to be PBT, simce ABS looks nice until you use it for a week, so presumably that's why GMK is out as they don't do PBT.
growler
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Roll on the group buy!
growler
Post by: jdc122 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 22:12:27
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 02 January 2020, 22:45:51
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
Have there been issues with Infinikey?
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 03 January 2020, 19:44:45
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.
Post by: ogWalker on Fri, 03 January 2020, 22:25:40
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.
Hi,
I am currently having samples sent to me so I can see the dyesub quality in hand, but from the sample pictures it looked pretty good. Also planning on making one big base kit as opposed to having many child kits. Once the final kits are decided upon I'll post updates here. cheers
Post by: rockydbull on Sat, 04 January 2020, 22:55:47
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.
Hi,
I am currently having samples sent to me so I can see the dyesub quality in hand, but from the sample pictures it looked pretty good. Also planning on making one big base kit as opposed to having many child kits. Once the final kits are decided upon I'll post updates here. cheers
Samples sent from infinikey?
Post by: Gtrx on Sat, 11 January 2020, 08:54:20
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.
Hi,
I am currently having samples sent to me so I can see the dyesub quality in hand, but from the sample pictures it looked pretty good. Also planning on making one big base kit as opposed to having many child kits. Once the final kits are decided upon I'll post updates here. cheers
Samples sent from infinikey?
yes
Post by: hammerbrotha on Sat, 11 January 2020, 17:11:49
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
Agree 100% with all your points above. I have heard infinikey pbt keycaps sound much worse than epbt. This is gonna be a pass for me as well.
Post by: d00deitsnik on Sat, 11 January 2020, 22:57:12
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
Agree 100% with all your points above. I have heard infinikey pbt keycaps sound much worse than epbt. This is gonna be a pass for me as well.
I see what you did there... "heard they sound much worse..." Nice.
I honestly haven't heard a comparison of ePBT and Infinikey tho. What makes them have such a different sound? Plastic density?
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Sat, 11 January 2020, 23:15:05
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.
Agree 100% with all your points above. I have heard infinikey pbt keycaps sound much worse than epbt. This is gonna be a pass for me as well.
Haven't seen/heard anything about them sounding "much worse", curious where that came from.
As well molds were updated since katakana was ran (as seen with the newer CandyBar sets) so any comparison would be off for any future sets anyways. I will have my candybar set sent fairly soon and have an ePBT set I can compare to on a board but honestly I don't see how they would be much different beyond just thickness of the caps given they are both PBT.
Post by: shoobopper on Sat, 18 January 2020, 19:40:08
It's a shame that the kits were merged together and no yellow pbt spacebar though :'(
EDIT: I meant no split yellow spacebar
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 19 January 2020, 01:14:32
Just got the newsletter from The Key Company which included a PBT Hive announcement! For those interested, the listing is posted here: https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive (https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive)That's InfiniKey for you. I'm surprised we didn't hear about this here first...
It's a shame that the kits were merged together and no yellow pbt spacebar though :'(
There are yellow spacebars in the Mega kit, are they not PBT?
Post by: SteffeMK on Sun, 19 January 2020, 01:16:25
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Post by: vi0till on Sun, 19 January 2020, 01:26:17
Just got the newsletter from The Key Company which included a PBT Hive announcement! For those interested, the listing is posted here: https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive (https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive)Agree, they also removed icon mod kit. They are putting the spacebar in Mega Kit and Yellow Accent in Novelty Kit. I dont think I ever need that much key for 60% layout.
It's a shame that the kits were merged together and no yellow pbt spacebar though :'(
Sorry, but I dont think this will a great buy.
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Post by: eskimojo on Sun, 19 January 2020, 02:16:37
Post by: growler on Sun, 19 January 2020, 02:25:19
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Post by: VXQN on Mon, 20 January 2020, 04:26:54
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 20 January 2020, 12:03:20
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 20 January 2020, 21:16:10
Group Buy Starts January 24th!
Super excited for this, we have done some super dope stuff for the set that we hope you will enjoy!
-walker
Post by: itskitsos on Mon, 20 January 2020, 22:38:24
Deskmat tho?
Post by: MrFurrior on Tue, 21 January 2020, 02:13:38
Post by: Datastream on Tue, 21 January 2020, 04:56:34
I'm disappointed with the novelties kit, there's quite a few duplicates from the base and the only one most people will want is the space bar.
So much this. I want that spacebar but don't want to pay for the others in that kit...
Post by: KuroTheCrazy on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:19:33
I'm disappointed with the novelties kit, there's quite a few duplicates from the base and the only one most people will want is the space bar.
From the TKC discord:
Quote
the only reason it happened here was because for some random reason before they left for CNY they sent us a quote for hive, we had looked at it and even though novelties were included in the mega photos they had done it separately.
We don't wanna push the buy back more weeks because of an issue as simple as quotes missing
Post by: helborne on Tue, 21 January 2020, 19:46:06
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Post by: growler on Tue, 21 January 2020, 21:52:48
Can’t believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol. OutI get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...
growler
Post by: Slayer77 on Tue, 21 January 2020, 23:39:09
I think most people would be happy if they add the yellow bars to core kit and bump price by 10$ or so.Can’t believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol. OutI get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...
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Post by: growler on Tue, 21 January 2020, 23:54:48
I certainly would be! Maybe throw in a funky escape key as well.I think most people would be happy if they add the yellow bars to core kit and bump price by 10$ or so.Can’t believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol. OutI get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...
growler
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 22 January 2020, 12:55:45
I certainly would be! Maybe throw in a funky escape key as well.I think most people would be happy if they add the yellow bars to core kit and bump price by 10$ or so.Can’t believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol. OutI get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...
growler
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I'm disappointed with the novelties kit, there's quite a few duplicates from the base and the only one most people will want is the space bar.
From the TKC discord:Quotethe only reason it happened here was because for some random reason before they left for CNY they sent us a quote for hive, we had looked at it and even though novelties were included in the mega photos they had done it separately.
We don't wanna push the buy back more weeks because of an issue as simple as quotes missing
So, hoping the kits will change seems to be in vain.
For myself it's not a big deal, idc about the yellow spacebar and just want the hive looking one. Buying a couple extra keys doesn't matter, we are spending hundreds on keyboards.
Post by: Meerccy on Thu, 23 January 2020, 16:21:25
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Post by: TalksToChalk on Thu, 23 January 2020, 19:22:38
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 20:12:35
I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200124/d28793241752570547623b09db623a17.jpg)
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Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 23 January 2020, 20:25:25
Does the Core Kit come with a 2u Shift Key? I cant tell from the photos. It seems it comes with 2X 2.25u shift keys but that seems redundant to me.
Core doesn't contain 2u shift. Including 2 2.25u shifts is for 660 layout coverage.
(https://imgur.com/7GbtiW7.png)
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:12:57
It's crazy that to get this combo requires buying the mega, monochrome and novelties kits. I'd have enough keys left over for 2 more keyboards that I'd rather put different keys on. Mechmarket is going to be a mess with everyone selling their trash...
I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200124/d28793241752570547623b09db623a17.jpg)
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I mean it’s not really that crazy... you want a secondary alpha color and a secondary spacebar color, with most GMK you’d have to buy 3 kits.
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:18:11
But not having the accent space bar in base kit is kinda crappy. A real miss imo.It's crazy that to get this combo requires buying the mega, monochrome and novelties kits. I'd have enough keys left over for 2 more keyboards that I'd rather put different keys on. Mechmarket is going to be a mess with everyone selling their trash...
I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200124/d28793241752570547623b09db623a17.jpg)
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I mean it’s not really that crazy... you want a secondary alpha color and a secondary spacebar color, with most GMK you’d have to buy 3 kits.
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Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:24:38
Accent spacebar is quite often not in base, it's not exactly a common thing. It has also already been covered that the mega kit and novelties were meant to be one kit.But not having the accent space bar in base kit is kinda crappy. A real miss imo.It's crazy that to get this combo requires buying the mega, monochrome and novelties kits. I'd have enough keys left over for 2 more keyboards that I'd rather put different keys on. Mechmarket is going to be a mess with everyone selling their trash...
I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200124/d28793241752570547623b09db623a17.jpg)
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I mean it’s not really that crazy... you want a secondary alpha color and a secondary spacebar color, with most GMK you’d have to buy 3 kits.
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Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:40:32
Just to cover a few things, first of all, big unfortunate mistake with the Novelties not being in base that unfortunately would have taken weeks to fix as they gave me the quote the day before CNY was slated to start so I would have had to wait on another quote that would have taken about 3 weeks to reproduce, so we've tried to compromise just a little bit.
For TKC only, if you order the MEGA Base set along with the novelties/accent kit, you will get 15$ off of the Novelty order. This makes the novelties cost 10$ total.
We hope this at least fixes the problem a tiny bit and shows that we are always listening to you guys and trying to provide the best service possible. Apologies again and thank you for your support of our business.
Post by: Slayer77 on Thu, 23 January 2020, 22:50:46
Hey Guys!Shame it's tkc only. Why do we as consumers suffer from purchasing from a proxy because we live in another part of the world
Just to cover a few things, first of all, big unfortunate mistake with the Novelties not being in base that unfortunately would have taken weeks to fix as they gave me the quote the day before CNY was slated to start so I would have had to wait on another quote that would have taken about 3 weeks to reproduce, so we've tried to compromise just a little bit.
For TKC only, if you order the Base set along with the novelties/accent kit, you will get 15$ off of the Novelty order. This makes the novelties cost 10$ total.
We hope this at least fixes the problem a tiny bit and shows that we are always listening to you guys and trying to provide the best service possible. Apologies again and thank you for your support of our business.
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Post by: neutralstate on Thu, 23 January 2020, 23:35:03
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Fri, 24 January 2020, 00:16:00
How thick will the keycaps be?
~1.4mm which is the same as ePBT (measured both just now)
Post by: growler on Fri, 24 January 2020, 00:18:42
Hey Guys!That's a decent offer
Just to cover a few things, first of all, big unfortunate mistake with the Novelties not being in base that unfortunately would have taken weeks to fix as they gave me the quote the day before CNY was slated to start so I would have had to wait on another quote that would have taken about 3 weeks to reproduce, so we've tried to compromise just a little bit.
For TKC only, if you order the Base set along with the novelties/accent kit, you will get 15$ off of the Novelty order. This makes the novelties cost 10$ total.
We hope this at least fixes the problem a tiny bit and shows that we are always listening to you guys and trying to provide the best service possible. Apologies again and thank you for your support of our business.
growler
Post by: Ahrimofnor on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:29:39
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:36:59
Splitting the monochrome alpha's from core/ mega kits is rough, even after tkc's kind gesture. Decent looking set, but I'd rather buy a new keyboard for the price of the caps.
Haha, that's the thing right? At this point there's so many sweet boards on the horizon, the urge to throw on cheap Taihao PBTs is just so tempting. I'll still keep an eye on this though, and see if I can work it in. TKC's deal makes it a little more bearable.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:52:35
Splitting the monochrome alpha's from core/ mega kits is rough, even after tkc's kind gesture. Decent looking set, but I'd rather buy a new keyboard for the price of the caps.Haha, that's the thing right? At this point there's so many sweet boards on the horizon, the urge to throw on cheap Taihao PBTs is just so tempting. I'll still keep an eye on this though, and see if I can work it in. TKC's deal makes it a little more bearable.
But Taihao isn't doing reverse dye-subbing... and doesn't offer nearly the compatibility/customization you're requesting...
Base ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.
If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH. I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:06:52
Splitting the monochrome alpha's from core/ mega kits is rough, even after tkc's kind gesture. Decent looking set, but I'd rather buy a new keyboard for the price of the caps.Haha, that's the thing right? At this point there's so many sweet boards on the horizon, the urge to throw on cheap Taihao PBTs is just so tempting. I'll still keep an eye on this though, and see if I can work it in. TKC's deal makes it a little more bearable.
But Taihao isn't doing reverse dye-subbing... and doesn't offer nearly the compatibility/customization you're requesting...
Base ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.
If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH. I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.
Eh, it's just an opinion, I've spent twice as much on keysets I thought looked more interesting. This is a pretty basic looking one (imo). Doesn't make it a bad set, I still really like it, but it is money I could apply elsewhere. Clearly TKC took feedback from this forum, and gave a little boost to help convince people to buy in. Sharing opinions is always valuable.
It's a forum, people share opinions, negative and positive. That's kind of the point. No need to defend, can just accept and carry on. These being keysets, I imagine a lot of the "value" people are determining here has less to do with keys/$ and more to do with aesthetic, and very subjective.
My personal issue is that there's little accent caps in each set that I want, but don't want to have to buy every set. Accents could have been moved to a separate pack, or the core and mega could have at least had the same accent keys mixed in.
Post by: TalksToChalk on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:11:54
Post by: sonicdoooom on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:19:16
Quote
Base ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.
If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH. I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.
I think you missed the part where he mentioned you had to buy the Mega kit to receive the discount. So that's $125 for mega, +35 for mono, +10 for novelties(-15$ discount). $170 total
It would have been one hell of deal had the discount applied to the core set as well.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:29:49
QuoteBase ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.
If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH. I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.
I think you missed the part where he mentioned you had to buy the Mega kit to receive the discount. So that's $125 for mega, +35 for mono, +10 for novelties(-15$ discount). $170 total
It would have been one hell of deal had the discount applied to the core set as well.
TKC updated their post to add "MEGA" before "Base", my original post was thinking Base = Core.
You're right, with the Mega it's not as good a deal. You'd be getting a ****-ton of keys.
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 24 January 2020, 14:07:15
we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.
This will translate to proxies as well.
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 14:08:44
Alright guys, we've been listening. And we think this is a fine change.Mad props. TKC for the win!
we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.
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Post by: Meerccy on Fri, 24 January 2020, 15:38:40
Post by: Slayer77 on Fri, 24 January 2020, 22:08:46
Alright guys, we've been listening. And we think this is a fine change.Thanks alot!
we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.
This will translate to proxies as well.
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Post by: growler on Fri, 24 January 2020, 22:27:21
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Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 24 January 2020, 23:43:41
Is this available to order from candykeys? It's on the site, but doesn't seem possible to buy it...
growler
Hey my friend, it should be, but most of the proxies work on different time frames so it should be available in the next 2-3 days
Post by: Liub on Fri, 24 January 2020, 23:46:11
Post by: Ahrimofnor on Fri, 24 January 2020, 23:57:43
Alright guys, we've been listening. And we think this is a fine change.
we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.
This will translate to proxies as well.
Bless your heart. Still a shame about no yellow spacebar in core kit but will probably end up picking this up.
Appreciate all you're doing!
Post by: neutralstate on Sat, 25 January 2020, 03:03:15
How thick will the keycaps be?
~1.4mm which is the same as ePBT (measured both just now)
thank you!