Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:19:10
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102693.0
Please move to the GB thread if you still have any question or suggestions.
I'm locking this thread.
Thank you everyone for the support and suggestions!
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Final renders of the Camping Rama cap
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First render of the Rama cap, we are still adjusting the legend, will share new render once I receive it from Rama.
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Update 15/09/2019: Finalized base kit design
GB will be available on Oct. 1st
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Update 23/08/2019: Kit design rev. 3
Since Latin alphas will be provided, I'm renaming this to Camping r2 which is more logical and to avoid confusions in the future.
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Update 18/08/2019: Kit design rev. 2
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Update 09/08/2019: Kit design rev. 1 with novelty kit and community kit.
I know a few ppl are looking at these novelty keys with GMK Camping r1 in mind.
I tried to bring something that's different from r1 but still has the spirit of the set in this run.
And try to achieve what I think Camping is missing from my perspective as a enthusiast who owns r1, that's actually what this run is all about.
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Update 09/08/2019: Kit design rev. 1 with novelty kit and community kit.
I know a few ppl are looking at these novelty keys with GMK Camping r1 in mind.
I tried to bring something that's different from r1 but still has the spirit of the set in this run.
And try to achieve what I think Camping is missing from my perspective as a enthusiast who owns r1, that's actually what this run is all about.
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Dear Geekhackers,
This is what I've been working on lately...Here I give you the GMK Camping in Japan.
This new run of GMK Camping will be Japan themed and content a whole new novelty keys kit.
I wanted to run this only with hiragana legends and individual novelty kit to be separated from the r1 run.
Hence the owners of GMK Camping r1 who doesn't want the new novelty keys but hiragana legend base can purchase only the base and vice versa.
The new run will consist a base kit, a novelty kit and a spacebar kit.
Here with the first revision of the base kit. Thank you in advance for any suggestion regarding kit design and novelty key design!
Cheers.
Need feedbacks on OG Hiragana sublegends v.s. mono-legends like Bento and Laser, please express your preferences!
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Post by: fcoury on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:20:21
Post by: OtherAndrew on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:23:33
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:24:55
Post by: Vlie on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:27:51
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:28:40
I would be in for a novelties kit just to go with my existing GMK Camping... and spacebars since I didnt buy the first time around.
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Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:30:18
giv
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:31:15
Same colorway? I've found the green to be a little dry on gmk camping r1
I think it is just the render. My intents is to use the same colors as r1.
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:31:40
Am I correct in assuming there will be a handful of new novelties? (I see one already).
I would be in for a novelties kit just to go with my existing GMK Camping... and spacebars since I didnt buy the first time around.
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Yes
Post by: Rejeckted on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:32:01
I'm in. :thumb:
Editing to say that I will most likely be in for 2 full kits on this. Can't wait to see updates.
Post by: ARSLOCK on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:33:14
Post by: lolafineday on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:36:15
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Post by: TheMissingPiece on Fri, 02 August 2019, 14:58:26
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Post by: digid3ar on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:02:06
Post by: MeisterGrinsepo on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:08:45
Post by: thecyangiant on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:09:44
Gmk camping is easily one of my top3 gmk sets. I was super excited to see beeing rerun. In my honest opinion I dont think the sublegends fit the theme at all and I would have much preferred a revamp of the kits. That beeing said if you decide to go with sublegends/hiragana only, I would love to see an additional "normal" legends kit beeing run.+1
Post by: victorpre on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:09:58
Are you still going to run the GMK Camping R2 or this is already the R2?
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Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:16:17
1) Caps Lock has a windowed version. Will there be versions of this for (Scroll) Lock and Num Lock?
2) Will there be accents in the base kit?
3) How's it feel to get US ISO support perfectly right in the first try? :D
4) Depending on feasibility, will you consider separating the base kit in mods and alphas?
5) JIS keyboards have two more alphas (the yen key in R1 between =+ and 1U backspace and the \_ R4 key between /? and 1.75U right Shift). Given the shortened right Shift is already in the base kit, would the addition of the necessary three keys (yen, 1U backspace and \_) be under consideration? In my case, I don't care either way, but would be good for others to know with certainty what the designer decides will be the case.
:thumb:
EDIT: couple typos.
Post by: Vireca on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:17:20
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:19:11
Post by: ghost990 on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:25:53
In any form that it could come back in, glad to see it's at least in the process.
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:29:55
A few questions:1) I guess not, keeping the base kit balanced between price and compatibility is my intention.
1) Caps Lock has a windowed version. Will there be versions of this for (Scroll) Lock and Num Lock?
2) Will there be accents in the base kit?
3) How's it feel to get US ISO support perfectly right in the first try? :D
4) Depending on feasibility, will you consider separating the base kit in mods and alphas?
5) JIS keyboards have two more alphas (the yen key in R1 between =+ and 1U backspace and the \_ R4 key between /? and 1.75U right Shift). Given the shortened right Shift is already in the base kit, would the addition of the necessary three keys (yen, 1U bacspace and \_) be under consideration. In my case, I don't care either way, but would be good for others to know for certain what the designer decides will be the case.
:thumb:
2) Yes, we will update the render in the coming revision, I'm thinking about accent ISO enter and numpad enter.
3) It's a mistake of the first revision of render to not have the side-printed ISO legends like r1.
4) I'm not a huge fan of splitting the alphas and mods and that's going to bump up the total price with GMK.
5) This is a really nice suggestion, I'll look into that.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:30:19
Wut. Hiragana doesn't make sense for this theme. At all.
If he calls it Camping in Japan... then I don't know how it wouldn't make sense for the theme.
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:32:11
Enjoyed it a lot. I'm a fan of the Camping set
Are you still going to run the GMK Camping R2 or this is already the R2?
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You can consider this as the r2 ;)
Post by: jenpls on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:42:31
Post by: Zeimus on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:46:50
Post by: surfortuna on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:49:42
Maybe for one of the other novelties you could have koinobori?
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PS. I do hope the original set gets run again at some point :)
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:56:36
Post by: tentboy on Fri, 02 August 2019, 15:59:20
gmk yuru camp uwuHype
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:03:24
Post by: DJ Shoko on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:04:01
Post by: skrunk on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:14:42
I'd pick sublegends!
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:15:28
Post by: typischt on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:20:31
Really excited about the hiragana legends and in general looking forward to this (also to the new novelty keys, since I love the ones from R1 already especially because they are kinda suble, fit perfectly and are not all that „in your face-y“ as they are in a lot of sets!)
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:23:55
That being said, a latin (standard) character kit or hiragana mono legends kit would be really nice to see!
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:37:38
Even tho I already got R1 of camping, I‘d buy the whole set just because of the green iso enter! Please leave this in and not just add the accented one as there was in R1. :)
Really excited about the hiragana legends and in general looking forward to this (also to the new novelty keys, since I love the ones from R1 already especially because they are kinda suble, fit perfectly and are not all that „in your face-y“ as they are in a lot of sets!)
I suspect people who prefer ANSI won't have trouble selling off their unwanted ISO Enter keys from this kit! Heck, I know I'd love to get this one, too! (and the one from R1 as well).
Post by: hammerbrotha on Fri, 02 August 2019, 17:24:41
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Post by: Tequila_Heineken on Fri, 02 August 2019, 19:26:08
Post by: sozo on Fri, 02 August 2019, 19:37:46
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 02 August 2019, 20:02:13
I've got an open box/untouched set of R1 I'll be seeing about throwing for sale in anticipation of this one since I'm a sucker for sublegends of any kind. So there's at least one more set in circulation soon for those looking for plain alphas.
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Post by: lolafineday on Fri, 02 August 2019, 20:22:35
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Post by: sagadoi on Fri, 02 August 2019, 20:58:10
Definitely in for double
kingnestea go go go!
Luohao NB
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 02 August 2019, 23:05:36
So... any chance of splitting the ISO and numpad keys out of the base kit?
I'm sure as a single kit they can easily reach MOQ anyway.
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Post by: dallman5 on Fri, 02 August 2019, 23:35:21
As for feedback, I think the sub legends were the right choice given Latin alphas were already done in round one and I personally am not a big fan of the hiragana mono-legends.
I always regretted selling my set from the first round so I’m definitely in for this when it happens, excited to see the new novelty designs :)
Post by: kimwonsik on Sat, 03 August 2019, 00:54:55
Post by: Karni on Sat, 03 August 2019, 01:04:30
Post by: pcire on Sat, 03 August 2019, 01:30:26
Alpha keypora or golden star velite collab would be awesome. Also 40s kit please!
A man has taste
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 03 August 2019, 01:31:25
Waiting for novelty kit - if its too different would vote for offering the old ones seperatly .
Its the best fitting noveltys i‘ve ever seen in gmk
Post by: ecbob on Sat, 03 August 2019, 02:32:08
these responses remind me of GMK Serika's IC :-X
What happened with GMK Serika's IC?
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 03 August 2019, 02:33:13
I like it just like it is, though hoping for some accents too. Asking about sublegends/alt language legends is always going to be a mixed bag and you're always going to get people going "I don't like them, make it normal". Don't bother paying attention to those cause they're obviously not your demographic for this set now are they. The conclusion people should make is that if you even changed the name to suit the subs/alt legends, that's what the set is going to be.
I've got an open box/untouched set of R1 I'll be seeing about throwing for sale in anticipation of this one since I'm a sucker for sublegends of any kind. So there's at least one more set in circulation soon for those looking for plain alphas.
Long story short, the theme started from the hiragana sublegends, yes. I'm a huge friend of that, not that I can read Japanese or such, pure aesthetic.
Because I think the hiragana sublegends kinda balance the legends of GMK sets on the surface and the hiragana legends are more elegant comparing to other sublegends imo.
I was contacted by vendors and ppl regarding a rerun of Camping, but I don't really want to rerun the set with the same stuff of r1.
So I thought why not take Camping to Japan this time? 10+ new novelty legends are created, nothing to do with yuru camp, pure about doing a camping in Japan.
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 03 August 2019, 04:26:56
And as a japan lover really looking forward to novelties... so much possibilities
€dit: any estimate when they will be presented?
Eventhough, would really like to get hold of R1 novelties
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 03 August 2019, 04:38:35
Post by: BeHell on Sat, 03 August 2019, 04:42:28
Hyped for the novelties.
Post by: macclack on Sat, 03 August 2019, 07:26:35
Not personally a huge fan of hiragana on this set - would be awesome if you at least offered a OG Alphas kit if it's not going to be in the base.
+1
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 03 August 2019, 08:34:54
Not personally a huge fan of hiragana on this set - would be awesome if you at least offered a OG Alphas kit if it's not going to be in the base.
+1
-1.
This set will have hiragana. Deal with it, you guys.
Post by: vicissitude on Sat, 03 August 2019, 10:16:36
please give us more novelties.
Post by: iammeuru on Sat, 03 August 2019, 12:38:10
Post by: XXXXXXXX on Sat, 03 August 2019, 12:57:40
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 03 August 2019, 12:58:10
definitely buy one.+1 can‘t be too much
please give us more novelties.
Post by: DJ Shoko on Sat, 03 August 2019, 15:02:42
I was contacted by vendors and ppl regarding a rerun of Camping, but I don't really want to rerun the set with the same stuff of r1.I respect and relate to your reason to not run the same kits again and you have my full support on it. Really looking forward to the new novelties since that's what truly makes the Camping magic imo. But I'm gonna pray for hiragana only kit if sublegends wins.
So I thought why not take Camping to Japan this time? 10+ new novelty legends are created, nothing to do with yuru camp, pure about doing a camping in Japan.
Post by: digid3ar on Sat, 03 August 2019, 16:21:02
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Post by: dumhevae on Sun, 04 August 2019, 02:36:08
Post by: flying1911 on Sun, 04 August 2019, 03:38:00
Post by: Rayndalf on Sun, 04 August 2019, 05:41:33
Post by: flying1911 on Sun, 04 August 2019, 09:57:10
Camping Cadet when?
GMK Camping R3: Camping in Space!
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 04 August 2019, 10:22:39
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 04 August 2019, 13:27:11
I was contacted by vendors and ppl regarding a rerun of Camping, but I don't really want to rerun the set with the same stuff of r1.I respect and relate to your reason to not run the same kits again and you have my full support on it. Really looking forward to the new novelties since that's what truly makes the Camping magic imo. But I'm gonna pray for hiragana only kit if sublegends wins.
So I thought why not take Camping to Japan this time? 10+ new novelty legends are created, nothing to do with yuru camp, pure about doing a camping in Japan.
Thanks for the support, I'm keen on publishing the new novelty keys
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 04 August 2019, 13:28:23
Camping Cadet when?
I'm not really a fan of the cadet legend and I assume this will be the last round of Camping.
Post by: bengine on Sun, 04 August 2019, 18:22:59
Camping Cadet when?
I'm not really a fan of the cadet legend and I assume this will be the last round of Camping.
How about Camping in Korea?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 04 August 2019, 22:36:15
>last round of CampingCamping Cadet when?
I'm not really a fan of the cadet legend and I assume this will be the last round of Camping.
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Post by: Simen on Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:02:19
Post by: matrixzj on Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:03:29
Post by: nyry43 on Mon, 05 August 2019, 11:43:46
Is there any kind of estimated timeline yet?
Post by: travwal on Mon, 05 August 2019, 12:25:08
Post by: michaelpopp on Mon, 05 August 2019, 14:04:56
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 05 August 2019, 14:06:28
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 05 August 2019, 14:08:03
Will you please add some R4/1.5U Novelties in it? So that I can adopt them in my hhkb . And WKL layout can also be beneficial from it.
You will get it
Post by: Blank on Tue, 06 August 2019, 07:39:59
Post by: gabbbe on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:02:53
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:43:31
Any estimates for launch?
It depends on the development. But I'm thinking about late Sep. or Oct.
Post by: Zambumon on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:46:33
petition to rename GMK Tactical to GMK Tactical Waiting so it can immediately be R3 of this
Wrong thread, German
Post by: hejog on Wed, 07 August 2019, 13:26:03
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 07 August 2019, 14:24:52
...
So I thought why not take Camping to Japan this time? 10+ new novelty legends are created, ... , pure about doing a camping in Japan.
May I throw some novelty ideas:
Deer
Bamboo
Koi
Crane / origami Crane
Rice ball
Mt Fuji
Never imagined I may go with a green set until I considered a green / white / red case - then I realized the usual black / grey / beige looks kind of boring.
Post by: Dreadstar on Wed, 07 August 2019, 16:20:37
Post by: jwilthethrill on Thu, 08 August 2019, 00:04:33
Post by: Ramsus on Thu, 08 August 2019, 03:01:58
Can't wait to see the new novelties!
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:27:15
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Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:35:42
Post by: nasp on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:44:24
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:45:23
Just so you are aware, I don't think they're is a 1.25u spacebar or 1.75u spacebar mold. The 1.75u one I'm less confident about though. That being said, I'd love to see them in the future!
I checked with GMK, those molds will be available for orders placed after September. Maybe even a bit before, we're checking if VoC can use them too already.
Post by: sl70309 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:49:37
Post by: dallman5 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:56:44
Edit: would be nice to have a brown ansi enter in the base kit for people who aren’t so keen on novelties, just a thought
Post by: jimboytacos on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:04:20
Anyone?
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:18:21
secret society blanket novelty
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:26:37
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
Not me. I don't fine them "feminine" (and I'm a brutish, coarse guy). I think they're meant to evoke the sense of a "trail" one would walk on while camping; if that's the case, a few blades of grass might make the idea clearer (but WDIKAA).
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:30:11
Update 09/08/2019: Kit design rev. 1 with novelty kit and community kit.Show Image(https://imgur.com/SmiT25R.jpg)
Interesting, if bold, choice of front-printing the UK-specific symbols on those few selected keys. Two quick questions: in all of them, it's the shifted key that gets onto the front, but the R3 \| only has the # symbol and the ~ symbols is discarded. I'll assume this was intentional and I'll ask, did putting # ~ there look too bad?
Also, will this front-printing be doubleshot, too, or will it be pad printing?
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:34:07
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
Not me. I don't fine them "feminine" (and I'm a brutish, coarse guy). I think they're meant to evoke the sense of a "trail" one would walk on while camping; if that's the case, a few blades of grass might make the idea clearer (but WDIKAA).
Those are supposed to be Sakura leaves...
Update 09/08/2019: Kit design rev. 1 with novelty kit and community kit.Show Image(https://imgur.com/SmiT25R.jpg)
Also, will this front-printing be doubleshot, too, or will it be pad printing?
Those are pad printed like GMK Camping r1
Post by: ghost990 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:41:06
Post by: sl70309 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:45:28
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
i feel the same, flowers looks weird in this set. i would like to see it be a campfire. please consider my words.
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:46:10
I know it wasn't a part of R1 but any chance for a ANSI Enter in the SP Color RBC? I'll still be getting the novelties, but considering there's the ISO Enter in that color doesn't seem so far fetched to ask for the same.
I'm also thinking about that, I've requested a price enquiry based on this revision.
I will add/remove some keys base on the pricing.
Post by: dumhevae on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:49:23
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:50:54
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
i feel the same, flowers looks weird in this set. i would like to see it be a campfire. please consider my words.
A campfire will not fit on a 2.75u key because the artwork has to be flat for that size.
The campfire key in GMK Camping has some historical meaning related to the camp group, hence I don't really want to recreate another one, sorry.
Post by: sl70309 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:55:48
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
i feel the same, flowers looks weird in this set. i would like to see it be a campfire. please consider my words.
A campfire will not fit on a 2.75u key because the artwork has to be flat for that size.
The campfire key in GMK Camping has some historical meaning related to the camp group, hence I don't really want to recreate another one, sorry.
Sakura flowers really don't fit into this set, please change it to a more masculine one.
Post by: Hell-es on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:57:56
Maybe mt. Fuji ? Or pagode with mt. Fuji
Post by: dumhevae on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:10:16
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:18:24
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
Not me. I don't fine them "feminine" (and I'm a brutish, coarse guy). I think they're meant to evoke the sense of a "trail" one would walk on while camping; if that's the case, a few blades of grass might make the idea clearer (but WDIKAA).
Those are supposed to be Sakura leaves...
I did state "WDIKAA". ;D
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:18:39
Sakura flowers really don't fit into this set, please change it to a more masculine one.
lmao
Post by: dumhevae on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:29:36
Sakura flowers really don't fit into this set, please change it to a more masculine one.
lmao
please change the sakura petals into a huge bicep thank you
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:29:54
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
Not a fan of the flower petals on the R3 modifiers. Much too feminine and too much "in your face" for a 2.25U modifiers.
Anyone?
i feel the same, flowers looks weird in this set. i would like to see it be a campfire. please consider my words.
A campfire will not fit on a 2.75u key because the artwork has to be flat for that size.
The campfire key in GMK Camping has some historical meaning related to the camp group, hence I don't really want to recreate another one, sorry.
Sakura flowers really don't fit into this set, please change it to a more masculine one.
imagine being insecure about your heterosexuality by plastic keycaps
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:30:12
Sakura flowers really don't fit into this set, please change it to a more masculine one.
lmao
How about I create a novelty key base on your picture with your beard? Should be MASCULINE enough! :)) :)) :))
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:31:30
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:31:35
there we go
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:33:03
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
holy ****
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:34:47
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
fk u
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:34:59
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
Missing cigars and whiskey
Post by: sl70309 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:36:01
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
this looks better than Sakura, would like to see it in final kit.
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:37:03
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
I'm a brutish, coarse guy. This is too refined for me.
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 August 2019, 16:07:01
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
fk u
gachimuchi camping
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 August 2019, 16:10:37
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
fk u
gachimuchi camping
GMK Right Version
Post by: tonny950111 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 16:12:56
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 09 August 2019, 16:13:25
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
fk u
gachimuchi camping
GMK Right Version
Oblotzky, less trashtalking and more muscle drawing. GMK MUSCLENOVELTIES isn't going to do itself, is it?
(and this time ensure is masculine enough)
Post by: typischt on Fri, 09 August 2019, 16:17:55
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 August 2019, 16:52:37
What is the meaning of the two japanese signes in the novelties?
野营, chinese for camping
In Japanese, camping is actually a loanword and is spelled in katakana ala キャンプ（する）.
Post by: Rumblehotep on Fri, 09 August 2019, 17:07:19
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
ANIKI
Post by: OtherAndrew on Fri, 09 August 2019, 17:09:38
Post by: digid3ar on Fri, 09 August 2019, 17:37:49
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 09 August 2019, 17:51:33
Don’t sell these in The Netherlands though, cigaret commercials not allowed :P *edit; no idea why I thought the Swiss knife was a ciggy...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
ANIKI
Also, in what language is the € on the 4..?? I only know it on 5 or E. Is that an ISO thing? Again The Netherlands left out :( sad me :(
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Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 09 August 2019, 17:57:29
Don’t sell these in The Netherlands though, cigaret commercials not allowed :P *edit; no idea why I thought the Swiss knife was a ciggy...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
ANIKI
Also, in what language is the € on the 4..?? I only know it on 5 or E. Is that an ISO thing? Again The Netherlands left out :( sad me :(
The UK English layout has taken to put the euro sign in AltGr-4. Ain't official, as far as I know, but it's become the de facto standard there.
Post by: Boingles on Fri, 09 August 2019, 18:44:50
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PnMbXCD.png)
secret society blanket novelty
Will take one of these with HGH Matcha Protein Shake mods ty.
Post by: NinjaSquirrel21 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 19:00:08
Update 09/08/2019: Kit design rev. 1 with novelty kit and community kit.Huge fan of this set. Great work!Show Image(https://imgur.com/SmiT25R.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/pbjeX35.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/Vob6rh6.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/Z2Mle3U.jpg)
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Post by: flying1911 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 20:06:45
will there not be novelties for the arrow keys in this set?THIS. I had the Camping sets (both the GMK and SA versions) and those arrow key novelties were my absolute favorite!
Post by: Little4Real on Fri, 09 August 2019, 20:27:59
Post by: toastyAU on Fri, 09 August 2019, 20:30:15
Post by: Furikurichemy on Fri, 09 August 2019, 20:32:30
What is the meaning of the two japanese signes in the novelties?
野营, chinese for camping
In Japanese, camping is actually a loanword and is spelled in katakana ala キャンプ（する）.
野営 （やえい）means camping in Japanese too. Along with 野宿 and キャンピング。
Also any chance for that backspace novelty going on a 1.5u for us split backspace users? :)
Post by: jwilthethrill on Fri, 09 August 2019, 20:33:49
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 09 August 2019, 21:52:32
What is the meaning of the two japanese signes in the novelties?
野营, chinese for camping
In Japanese, camping is actually a loanword and is spelled in katakana ala キャンプ（する）.
野営 （やえい）means camping in Japanese too. Along with 野宿 and キャンピング。
Also any chance for that backspace novelty going on a 1.5u for us split backspace users? :)
The second character is not 営. It's 营.
Post by: Furikurichemy on Fri, 09 August 2019, 22:07:51
Ahhh didn't notice sorry. Probably good idea to switch it up for the theme then maybe.What is the meaning of the two japanese signes in the novelties?
野营, chinese for camping
In Japanese, camping is actually a loanword and is spelled in katakana ala キャンプ（する）.
野営 （やえい）means camping in Japanese too. Along with 野宿 and キャンピング。
Also any chance for that backspace novelty going on a 1.5u for us split backspace users? :)
The second character is not 営. It's 营.
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Post by: donutcat on Fri, 09 August 2019, 22:28:46
The numpad does look a little bare though compared to the other alphas, I don't suppose there's any sublegends available for there?
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 09 August 2019, 22:37:22
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 09 August 2019, 22:58:41
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Fri, 09 August 2019, 23:43:54
Post by: kteavnignxd on Fri, 09 August 2019, 23:53:21
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 10 August 2019, 02:22:32
Rama artisan idea, yes or yes?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 10 August 2019, 02:32:36
(https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/c/image/1519/84/1519846144504.gif)
Let's face it, Yuru Camp is gonna be this set's mascot/spiritual animal.
I'm also for changing the sakura Enter to something else. Not because it's not muscle macho enough (LOL), but I simply already have one of these:
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1LwNSRFXXXXXFaXXXq6xXFXXXO/mechanical-keyboard-ENTER-ESC-PBT-keycap-Cherry-height-keycaps-cherry-mx-switch-sakura-logo-gaming.jpg)
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 10 August 2019, 03:08:46
Ahhh didn't notice sorry. Probably good idea to switch it up for the theme then maybe.What is the meaning of the two japanese signes in the novelties?
野营, chinese for camping
In Japanese, camping is actually a loanword and is spelled in katakana ala キャンプ（する）.
野営 （やえい）means camping in Japanese too. Along with 野宿 and キャンピング。
Also any chance for that backspace novelty going on a 1.5u for us split backspace users? :)
The second character is not 営. It's 营.
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agree, I'll change this to 営
Post by: packleadercho on Sat, 10 August 2019, 04:17:36
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Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 10 August 2019, 04:44:59
This has been brought up a couple of times but I've yet to see a response; would you consider adding novelty arrow keys? The compass arrow inspired arrow keys from R1 really left an impression and I'd love to see them return or see a new design entirely.
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I've been thinking about that, but the thing is, the compass arrows are something unique in r1.
I don't want to touch the arrows unless I have better/different inspirations or receive better/different ideas.
Simply recreate another shape of the compass arrows is meaningless imo, in that case I better leave it in r1.
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 10 August 2019, 05:21:54
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pwbn06y.png)
there we go
(https://emojis.slackmojis.com/emojis/images/1542340462/4965/dabbing.gif?1542340462)
(https://res.booklive.jp/333878/005/thumbnail/2L.jpg)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 10 August 2019, 05:26:51
Update 09/08/2019: Kit design rev. 1 with novelty kit and community kit.
...Show Image(https://imgur.com/pbjeX35.jpg)
...
These novelties turn out nicely!
For the rice ball, reversing the color may also do the trick.
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 10 August 2019, 07:50:52
This has been brought up a couple of times but I've yet to see a response; would you consider adding novelty arrow keys? The compass arrow inspired arrow keys from R1 really left an impression and I'd love to see them return or see a new design entirely.
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I've been thinking about that, but the thing is, the compass arrows are something unique in r1.
I don't want to touch the arrows unless I have better/different inspirations or receive better/different ideas.
Simply recreate another shape of the compass arrows is meaningless imo, in that case I better leave it in r1.
Again really sad that i missed R1 - would also really love to see the arrows. Try to think of an japanese alternative ;)
As i again looked into R1 novelty enter - maybe reconsider mount fuji
Otherwise top new noveltys like the rice and knife most of all, great the be ready for R2 :thumb:
Post by: nyry43 on Sat, 10 August 2019, 08:19:03
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 10 August 2019, 11:25:45
Many are asking for just a rerun of R1, which I always find boring, so I definitely enjoy this kind of attitude.This has been brought up a couple of times but I've yet to see a response; would you consider adding novelty arrow keys? The compass arrow inspired arrow keys from R1 really left an impression and I'd love to see them return or see a new design entirely.
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I've been thinking about that, but the thing is, the compass arrows are something unique in r1.
I don't want to touch the arrows unless I have better/different inspirations or receive better/different ideas.
Simply recreate another shape of the compass arrows is meaningless imo, in that case I better leave it in r1.
I agree that an accented arrow kit would be real nice. How about something like a swallow for the icon?
(https://cmkt-image-prd.global.ssl.fastly.net/0.1.0/ps/1022321/600/400/m2/fpnw/wm1/%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BA%D0%B0-.jpg?1456315802&s=4886f163f9e357970da6b18ecbfddd57)
There are many ways to stylize / simplify it:
(https://as2.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/33/23/51/500_F_233235104_4amqi3yDMAbAf013jkt5hiDEfp4V1Kpw.jpg)
(https://as1.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/20/61/90/500_F_220619047_0horIDBg4fMmV9ybDj61BE472xsrSugI.jpg)
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 10 August 2019, 11:40:27
Mount Fuji is already there...the first novelty I created...but I'm trying something else for the enter novelty atm.This has been brought up a couple of times but I've yet to see a response; would you consider adding novelty arrow keys? The compass arrow inspired arrow keys from R1 really left an impression and I'd love to see them return or see a new design entirely.
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I've been thinking about that, but the thing is, the compass arrows are something unique in r1.
I don't want to touch the arrows unless I have better/different inspirations or receive better/different ideas.
Simply recreate another shape of the compass arrows is meaningless imo, in that case I better leave it in r1.
Again really sad that i missed R1 - would also really love to see the arrows. Try to think of an japanese alternative ;)
As i again looked into R1 novelty enter - maybe reconsider mount fuji
Otherwise top new noveltys like the rice and knife most of all, great the be ready for R2 :thumb:
Let's see what the outcome will be.
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 10 August 2019, 11:42:40
Many are asking for just a rerun of R1, which I always find boring, so I definitely enjoy this kind of attitude.This has been brought up a couple of times but I've yet to see a response; would you consider adding novelty arrow keys? The compass arrow inspired arrow keys from R1 really left an impression and I'd love to see them return or see a new design entirely.
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I've been thinking about that, but the thing is, the compass arrows are something unique in r1.
I don't want to touch the arrows unless I have better/different inspirations or receive better/different ideas.
Simply recreate another shape of the compass arrows is meaningless imo, in that case I better leave it in r1.
I agree that an accented arrow kit would be real nice. How about something like a swallow for the icon?Show Image(https://cmkt-image-prd.global.ssl.fastly.net/0.1.0/ps/1022321/600/400/m2/fpnw/wm1/%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BA%D0%B0-.jpg?1456315802&s=4886f163f9e357970da6b18ecbfddd57)
There are many ways to stylize / simplify it:Show Image(https://as2.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/33/23/51/500_F_233235104_4amqi3yDMAbAf013jkt5hiDEfp4V1Kpw.jpg)Show Image(https://as1.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/20/61/90/500_F_220619047_0horIDBg4fMmV9ybDj61BE472xsrSugI.jpg)
I think the compass arrows have been made to its perfection in r1.
In the meanwhile, I'm trying something that's the same as the compass arrows but slightly different and fits the theme.
Not sure if it will work.
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 10 August 2019, 11:52:25
Post by: Dandogood on Sat, 10 August 2019, 15:26:37
Post by: Krelbit on Sat, 10 August 2019, 22:29:55
I would kill for a "Compact bonfire grill" novelty.Show Image(https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/c/image/1519/84/1519846144504.gif)
Let's face it, Yuru Camp is gonna be this set's mascot/spiritual animal.
I'm also for changing the sakura Enter to something else. Not because it's not muscle macho enough (LOL), but I simply already have one of these:Show Image(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1LwNSRFXXXXXFaXXXq6xXFXXXO/mechanical-keyboard-ENTER-ESC-PBT-keycap-Cherry-height-keycaps-cherry-mx-switch-sakura-logo-gaming.jpg)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PnMbXCD.png)
secret society blanket novelty
Will take one of these with HGH Matcha Protein Shake mods ty.
nestea
yuru camp novelty
the people are speaking
Post by: Abec13 on Sun, 11 August 2019, 02:53:27
Post by: cari on Sun, 11 August 2019, 12:12:38
Post by: Owl- on Sun, 11 August 2019, 12:42:01
Post by: maybebabe on Sun, 11 August 2019, 15:23:41
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 11 August 2019, 17:50:25
(https://i.gyazo.com/ca03fb2d72acec2f14957c934f9d1d16.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/CMuaOqX.png)
weeb mode
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 11 August 2019, 19:00:32
Post by: typischt on Sun, 11 August 2019, 19:06:42
we been watchin a lot of yuru campWhile this yuru thing doesn‘t really interest me (actually started to watch the first episode: is this whole anime just about girls who go camping? ..Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/ca03fb2d72acec2f14957c934f9d1d16.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CMuaOqX.png)
weeb mode
), this fire key looks awesome!
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 11 August 2019, 19:50:22
we been watchin a lot of yuru campWhile this yuru thing doesn‘t really interest me (actually started to watch the first episode: is this whole anime just about girls who go camping? ..Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/ca03fb2d72acec2f14957c934f9d1d16.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CMuaOqX.png)
weeb mode
bruh its a super comfy feel good time with the buds
Post by: shuangmu on Mon, 12 August 2019, 03:29:56
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 12 August 2019, 06:59:35
(https://imgur.com/uUJR9wi.jpg)
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 12 August 2019, 07:18:16
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 12 August 2019, 07:33:51
I gotta ask: what do the legends on the arrow keys mean?
East, South, West, North. ? :))
Post by: ba7777 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 07:39:02
I gotta ask: what do the legends on the arrow keys mean?
east, west, south and north
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 12 August 2019, 08:22:25
I gotta ask: what do the legends on the arrow keys mean?
East, South, West, North. ? :))
I'm going to assume the right arrow key has the "East" legend and the left arrow key has the "West" legend. If so, I am going to demand, DEMAND you add two more keys with those two legends swapped around, for the benefit of mech enthusiasts in Venus. We Earthers get so far up inside our asses, we forget our Venusian brethren! :mad:
Post by: kolyz on Mon, 12 August 2019, 09:05:19
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 12 August 2019, 09:26:18
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Post by: stevenT on Mon, 12 August 2019, 10:10:55
Post by: travwal on Mon, 12 August 2019, 11:09:05
Post by: flying1911 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 11:15:54
Post by: nasp on Mon, 12 August 2019, 11:57:18
Post by: Hell-es on Mon, 12 August 2019, 12:13:32
I'd like to see some of the row 1 novelties moved down to r4, but that may be a minority opinion. I'd rather have more novelties on my bottom row than my top, especially if it's a 65% board or smaller.As my keyboard @ work (where this set will be used) is a 108 board, I‘m super happy with many R1 keys.
The best solution will be - please add even more noveltys :cool: with other sets i‘m always skeptical about too much noveltys... but here... there can‘t be too much - as they are so good
Post by: ecbob on Mon, 12 August 2019, 14:50:55
Post by: OtherAndrew on Mon, 12 August 2019, 15:07:29
update 12/08: updated novelty kitShow Image(https://imgur.com/uUJR9wi.jpg)
Please consider doing the kanji on the arrow keys in a gothic style font similar to the hiragana sublegends rather than brushed. It would match better with GMK legends and would be a nice callback to R1's arrow novelties.
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 12 August 2019, 18:05:04
It would be nice if you included a red ANSI enter key in the base kit (like ISO and numpad)It will be added with the next revision of base kit
Post by: jimboytacos on Mon, 12 August 2019, 18:31:33
It would be nice if you included a red ANSI enter key in the base kit (like ISO and numpad)It will be added with the next revision of base kit
Do we really need addition legends on the arrow keys? I mean, it's pretty self explanatory- I think adding it only clutters up those keys.
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 12 August 2019, 20:42:56
Do we really need addition legends on the arrow keys?
Absolutely we do.
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Seems like a lot of GBs are doing this, and I for one am really glad this one is keeping the "numb pad" in the base kit!
edit: the novelties look absolutely amazing, kingnestea! So excited for this GB!
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 12 August 2019, 21:02:48
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
Post by: kidpid on Mon, 12 August 2019, 22:17:59
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
I'm willing to bet that a majority of the people who are buying GMK sets are putting them on boards that don't have a numpad.
Post by: jimboytacos on Mon, 12 August 2019, 22:21:41
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
You can still have it for the same price.
Imagine this: A normal non-split kit would be $135. But if you split it up, the price could now be: Base price is $100. Then the numbpad is $35.
Makes sense? And everyone saves $35 who don't need a numbpad.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 12 August 2019, 22:24:29
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 12 August 2019, 23:39:51
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
You can still have it for the same price.
Imagine this: A normal non-split kit would be $135. But if you split it up, the price could now be: Base price is $100. Then the numbpad is $35.
Makes sense? And everyone saves $35 who don't need a numbpad.
GMK doesn't work like that. Splitting the num pad will not reduce the price significantly. In fact, it will increase the total price if you want to have both.
Reason is because GMK has a full automatic process, splitting kits will increase their workload. Unlike SP, they have a semi-automatic process, also the reason most SP sets are ran in child kits but GMK sets are mostly ran in all-in-one base.
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 13 August 2019, 00:18:54
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
You can still have it for the same price.
Imagine this: A normal non-split kit would be $135. But if you split it up, the price could now be: Base price is $100. Then the numbpad is $35.
Makes sense? And everyone saves $35 who don't need a numbpad.
GMK doesn't work like that. Splitting the num pad will not reduce the price significantly. In fact, it will increase the total price if you want to have both.
Reason is because GMK has a full automatic process, splitting kits will increase their workload. Unlike SP, they have a semi-automatic process, also the reason most SP sets are ran in child kits but GMK sets are mostly ran in all-in-one base.
How is GMK 9009 R3 able to achieve what I'm describe while keeping the base kit less than $100?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 13 August 2019, 00:23:14
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Tue, 13 August 2019, 00:36:54
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
You can still have it for the same price.
Imagine this: A normal non-split kit would be $135. But if you split it up, the price could now be: Base price is $100. Then the numbpad is $35.
Makes sense? And everyone saves $35 who don't need a numbpad.
GMK doesn't work like that. Splitting the num pad will not reduce the price significantly. In fact, it will increase the total price if you want to have both.
Reason is because GMK has a full automatic process, splitting kits will increase their workload. Unlike SP, they have a semi-automatic process, also the reason most SP sets are ran in child kits but GMK sets are mostly ran in all-in-one base.
How is GMK 9009 R3 able to achieve what I'm describe while keeping the base kit less than $100?
do you compare them on the same MOQ?
also GMK 9009 uses stock GMK color, while this set use custom color.
the price you described, $100 + $35, is at 500 MOQ (reference: GMK Striker)
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let take a look at GMK Jamón:
base (250): $115
numpad (100): $38
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I also think GMK 9009 has more hype than this set and thus would sell better (I bet this set can easily reach 500 MOQ) - the vendors know this.
Post by: okidna on Tue, 13 August 2019, 01:40:54
How is GMK 9009 R3 able to achieve what I'm describe while keeping the base kit less than $100?
Because it's single legend, GMK stock color, and the designer removes A LOT of keycaps (compared to 9009 R2).
Compared to R2, the R3 removes :
- Numpad
- Basic ISO support (including 2 colored ISO Enter)
- Extra 2.25U SHIFT
- 2U Shift
- 6U Spacebar
- Stepped Control
That's more than 30 keycaps removed.
Post by: ecbob on Tue, 13 August 2019, 02:16:39
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 13 August 2019, 02:24:41
update 12/08: updated novelty kitShow Image(https://imgur.com/uUJR9wi.jpg)
My idea of a rice ball, without looking more like a negative image of a rice ball in terms of what is lighter and what is darker in colors.
(https://i.imgur.com/gK3e1ye.png)
But of course, I haven't considered how using white color on red should have this idea implemented.
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 13 August 2019, 04:24:39
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
You can still have it for the same price.
Imagine this: A normal non-split kit would be $135. But if you split it up, the price could now be: Base price is $100. Then the numbpad is $35.
Makes sense? And everyone saves $35 who don't need a numbpad.
GMK doesn't work like that. Splitting the num pad will not reduce the price significantly. In fact, it will increase the total price if you want to have both.
Reason is because GMK has a full automatic process, splitting kits will increase their workload. Unlike SP, they have a semi-automatic process, also the reason most SP sets are ran in child kits but GMK sets are mostly ran in all-in-one base.
How is GMK 9009 R3 able to achieve what I'm describe while keeping the base kit less than $100?
I'm aiming for a $135 price point at 250MOQ for the base kit, and about $125 at 500MOQ, I'm pretty sure that 9009 R3 will be at the same price point considered base+num pad with a lot of keys less.
Comparing to Jamon at 250MOQ, I won't say splitting the numpad is saving money if you need both but will cost you more.
Post by: Hell-es on Tue, 13 August 2019, 05:17:18
Any infos on vendors yet ? Will mykeyboard do this again for EU?
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 13 August 2019, 05:26:55
Really happy that numpad is included .Yes, we are both located in Belgium
Any infos on vendors yet ? Will mykeyboard do this again for EU?
Post by: Hell-es on Tue, 13 August 2019, 05:35:09
Post by: ehmlis on Thu, 15 August 2019, 07:09:00
5) JIS keyboards have two more alphas (the yen key in R1 between =+ and 1U backspace and the \_ R4 key between /? and 1.75U right Shift). Given the shortened right Shift is already in the base kit, would the addition of the necessary three keys (yen, 1U backspace and \_) be under consideration?
Also this, so much this!
Post by: BeHell on Thu, 15 August 2019, 10:45:04
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 15 August 2019, 11:32:32
Post by: OtherAndrew on Thu, 15 August 2019, 11:41:41
Any hope for a pinecone novelty?
this
Post by: Laughmaster on Thu, 15 August 2019, 12:55:45
Post by: dallman5 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 13:06:02
i really like the novelties except the flowers, but i guess that´s just because i loved the mountains in r1 so much and these novelties are lacking mountains. Really like the tents tho.
I agree about the mountains vs. flowers. I know kingnestea is trying to keep each round unique, but the mountains fit the theme much better imo.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 15 August 2019, 13:23:18
Any hope for a pinecone novelty?
this
this
Post by: ghost990 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 13:28:30
I'd just like to point out, the render for the "east" novelty isn't consistent with the other novelty arrows. Looks kinda weird with the arrow and kaji swapped sides for just one of them. Was that intentional?
Agreed, seems like the arrows and legends should be in consistent locations for all the novelty arrow keys.
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 15 August 2019, 23:15:43
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
imagine trying to fight someone when the aggressor lost a paypal dispute
tkl should always be a side kit now
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 16 August 2019, 00:34:43
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
imagine trying to fight someone when the aggressor lost a paypal dispute
tkl should always be a side kit now
numpad shouldn't be allowed in base kit like megaforce93 shouldn't be allowed on mechmarket
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 16 August 2019, 10:39:36
Would you consider breaking up the numb pad from the base kit? If you ran a poll, I'm sure you'll find out, not many actually use that kit.
Numpad belongs in base kit. Fight me.
imagine trying to fight someone when the aggressor lost a paypal dispute
tkl should always be a side kit now
Imagine saying something stupid, like thinking that how PayPal decides to rule in disputes is related to fighting me.
Numpad belongs in base kit(in GMK sets at least) because:
- Unnecessarily splitting up kits with GMK is small brain because of their process increasing kit costs and the GB process being simplified with fewer kits
- Numpad is a relatively small number of keys and impact on overall kit pricing for those keys
- There is a fairly large number of layouts that can potentially use those keys: Fullsize, 1800, 96key, uk78, left handed variants of anything with a built in numpad, and then just any non-numpad layout with a separate numpad
- With a large potential percentage of buyers wanting it, having it in a separate kit raises the average paid cost for the set
- On a set that may have a harder time reaching MOQ anyway, if a separate numpad kit doesn't hit it can cause a significant withdrawal of base kit orders, what usually happens to orders with ISO kits
Overall I think keeping the numpad in the base kit is improving QoL of the GB process and having a minimal effect on those not needing the numpad while making significant difference for those who do need it.
Post by: Rayndalf on Fri, 16 August 2019, 13:07:09
- On a set that may have a harder time reaching MOQ anyway, if a separate numpad kit doesn't hit it can cause a significant withdrawal of base kit orders, what usually happens to orders with ISO kitsWhat? I agree with keeping the numpad in the base, especially for smaller group buys (everyone pays ~$15 more instead of numpad bros paying $40 or skipping the buy, and also it makes it easier to resell the set later. If this wasn't in an established colorway, I'd argue in favor on putting the novelties in the base kit like Bento did as.
But this hobby is so full of cash right now that even Handerbeit hit MOQ and this set is based on one of the most hyped sets (that everyone regrets not buying the first time), so it'll hit the 750 mark easily unless it faces particularly tough competition. If the numpad can't hit MOQ with the amount of expected base kit sales, people just really don't want it.
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 16 August 2019, 14:02:13
- On a set that may have a harder time reaching MOQ anyway, if a separate numpad kit doesn't hit it can cause a significant withdrawal of base kit orders, what usually happens to orders with ISO kitsWhat? I agree with keeping the numpad in the base, especially for smaller group buys (everyone pays ~$15 more instead of numpad bros paying $40 or skipping the buy, and also it makes it easier to resell the set later. If this wasn't in an established colorway, I'd argue in favor on putting the novelties in the base kit like Bento did as.
But this hobby is so full of cash right now that even Handerbeit hit MOQ and this set is based on one of the most hyped sets (that everyone regrets not buying the first time), so it'll hit the 750 mark easily unless it faces particularly tough competition. If the numpad can't hit MOQ with the amount of expected base kit sales, people just really don't want it.
I was meaning more in general, for less popular sets, and as a reason for numpad in base for GMK sets in general. As with many things, I probably didn't word that as well as I could have.
Post by: varzaman on Fri, 16 August 2019, 17:36:41
Many are asking for just a rerun of R1, which I always find boring, so I definitely enjoy this kind of attitude.This has been brought up a couple of times but I've yet to see a response; would you consider adding novelty arrow keys? The compass arrow inspired arrow keys from R1 really left an impression and I'd love to see them return or see a new design entirely.
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I've been thinking about that, but the thing is, the compass arrows are something unique in r1.
I don't want to touch the arrows unless I have better/different inspirations or receive better/different ideas.
Simply recreate another shape of the compass arrows is meaningless imo, in that case I better leave it in r1.
I agree that an accented arrow kit would be real nice. How about something like a swallow for the icon?Show Image(https://cmkt-image-prd.global.ssl.fastly.net/0.1.0/ps/1022321/600/400/m2/fpnw/wm1/%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BA%D0%B0-.jpg?1456315802&s=4886f163f9e357970da6b18ecbfddd57)
There are many ways to stylize / simplify it:Show Image(https://as2.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/33/23/51/500_F_233235104_4amqi3yDMAbAf013jkt5hiDEfp4V1Kpw.jpg)Show Image(https://as1.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/20/61/90/500_F_220619047_0horIDBg4fMmV9ybDj61BE472xsrSugI.jpg)
I think the compass arrows have been made to its perfection in r1.
In the meanwhile, I'm trying something that's the same as the compass arrows but slightly different and fits the theme.
Not sure if it will work.
Long time lurker but I figured I would give my two cents.
I understand you want r2 to be unique, but I don't think adding the cardinal direction arrow keys from r1 would take away from the uniqueness. Idk, I just think they are too good to not include them. It just fits perfectly.
Thanks for putting this together! While I'm not really a fan of the set like I am of r1, I definitely appreciate it and the new novelty keys are looking good.
I also hope you would consider/reconsider doing another run of r1. There is nothing else like it.
edit:
So I have rethought my comments. So I consider modern Japanese style to be more simple and minimalistic, with smooth lines.
So I was thinking maybe the best option here would be to just have the cardinal arrows on the keys and thats it. No label for direction, just the arrow.
It would make it unique from r1, and it would fit the theme better imo, with a cleaner looking key.
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 16 August 2019, 22:39:10
- On a set that may have a harder time reaching MOQ anyway, if a separate numpad kit doesn't hit it can cause a significant withdrawal of base kit orders, what usually happens to orders with ISO kitsWhat? I agree with keeping the numpad in the base, especially for smaller group buys (everyone pays ~$15 more instead of numpad bros paying $40 or skipping the buy, and also it makes it easier to resell the set later. If this wasn't in an established colorway, I'd argue in favor on putting the novelties in the base kit like Bento did as.
But this hobby is so full of cash right now that even Handerbeit hit MOQ and this set is based on one of the most hyped sets (that everyone regrets not buying the first time), so it'll hit the 750 mark easily unless it faces particularly tough competition. If the numpad can't hit MOQ with the amount of expected base kit sales, people just really don't want it.
Handarbeit hitting MOQ is not a metric to grade the market by. Handarbeit was an anomaly fueled by a rather aggressive marketing campaign on multiple fronts.
That being said, I agree that such a hyped set will have no problem hitting moq and this is certainly a case that screams "no numpad"
However the precedent it may set (along with 9009) is that sets have to remove numpads to remain competitively priced and succeed is fairly unnerving. These sets releasing without numpads may be a bad sign going forward for numpad users, as trends very may easily sweep the numpad under the rug for a while.
... and THAT being said, I still hate the numpad.
get rid of it bois
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 17 August 2019, 00:16:03
How many full-size keyboard custom GB are running right now? What are their sales numbers?- On a set that may have a harder time reaching MOQ anyway, if a separate numpad kit doesn't hit it can cause a significant withdrawal of base kit orders, what usually happens to orders with ISO kitsWhat? I agree with keeping the numpad in the base, especially for smaller group buys (everyone pays ~$15 more instead of numpad bros paying $40 or skipping the buy, and also it makes it easier to resell the set later. If this wasn't in an established colorway, I'd argue in favor on putting the novelties in the base kit like Bento did as.
But this hobby is so full of cash right now that even Handerbeit hit MOQ and this set is based on one of the most hyped sets (that everyone regrets not buying the first time), so it'll hit the 750 mark easily unless it faces particularly tough competition. If the numpad can't hit MOQ with the amount of expected base kit sales, people just really don't want it.
Handarbeit hitting MOQ is not a metric to grade the market by. Handarbeit was an anomaly fueled by a rather aggressive marketing campaign on multiple fronts.
That being said, I agree that such a hyped set will have no problem hitting moq and this is certainly a case that screams "no numpad"
However the precedent it may set (along with 9009) is that sets have to remove numpads to remain competitively priced and succeed is fairly unnerving. These sets releasing without numpads may be a bad sign going forward for numpad users, as trends very may easily sweep the numpad under the rug for a while.
... and THAT being said, I still hate the numpad.
get rid of it bois
>These sets releasing without numpads may be a bad sign going forward for numpad users, as trends very may easily sweep the numpad under the rug for a while.
Is that a bad thing though? Like ISO users: If there are not even enough to reach the tiny MOQ of 50 / 100, well does that say about that user base?
I mean, are we sure there are more numpad users than 40% PLUS ortho users? They have almost the same amount of keys, after all. As we are getting more high-end 40% and/or ortho GBs, why 40% kits and not numpad kits?
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 17 August 2019, 01:34:54
I think kingnestea said this is going with Numpad - I think this is not the thread to discuss this over pages.
Still hyped for the set :thumb:
Post by: bball2 on Sat, 17 August 2019, 01:44:44
Haven't read through the rest of the thread, so it might've already been mentioned, but would you consider adding a red esc / enter to the base kit? Would match what a lot of other gmk sets usually include.
Post by: stevenT on Sat, 17 August 2019, 02:56:09
Looks awesome, I'm definitely in!
Haven't read through the rest of the thread, so it might've already been mentioned, but would you consider adding a red esc / enter to the base kit? Would match what a lot of other gmk sets usually include.
Sound good, I love to have another red horizontal red enter button just like many other set but look at the base set bro, it is way too big now.
Personally, I don't think we need both symbol and word on mods button, how about removing word and leave the symbol on mods buttons
Post by: OtherAndrew on Sat, 17 August 2019, 03:15:42
Looks awesome, I'm definitely in!
Haven't read through the rest of the thread, so it might've already been mentioned, but would you consider adding a red esc / enter to the base kit? Would match what a lot of other gmk sets usually include.
Sound good, I love to have another red horizontal red enter button just like many other set but look at the base set bro, it is way too big now.
Personally, I don't think we need both symbol and word on mods button, how about removing word and leave the symbol on mods buttons
say no to icon mod tyranny
Post by: im_hide on Sat, 17 August 2019, 04:07:36
- On a set that may have a harder time reaching MOQ anyway, if a separate numpad kit doesn't hit it can cause a significant withdrawal of base kit orders, what usually happens to orders with ISO kitsWhat? I agree with keeping the numpad in the base, especially for smaller group buys (everyone pays ~$15 more instead of numpad bros paying $40 or skipping the buy, and also it makes it easier to resell the set later. If this wasn't in an established colorway, I'd argue in favor on putting the novelties in the base kit like Bento did as.
But this hobby is so full of cash right now that even Handerbeit hit MOQ and this set is based on one of the most hyped sets (that everyone regrets not buying the first time), so it'll hit the 750 mark easily unless it faces particularly tough competition. If the numpad can't hit MOQ with the amount of expected base kit sales, people just really don't want it.
Handarbeit hitting MOQ is not a metric to grade the market by. Handarbeit was an anomaly fueled by a rather aggressive marketing campaign on multiple fronts.
That being said, I agree that such a hyped set will have no problem hitting moq and this is certainly a case that screams "no numpad"
However the precedent it may set (along with 9009) is that sets have to remove numpads to remain competitively priced and succeed is fairly unnerving. These sets releasing without numpads may be a bad sign going forward for numpad users, as trends very may easily sweep the numpad under the rug for a while.
... and THAT being said, I still hate the numpad.
get rid of it bois
Kill the numpad. Offer it as a sacrifice to the omnipotent higher beings of the keyboarding world.
Post by: Abec13 on Sat, 17 August 2019, 16:08:06
Or, for ortho, you can check in with GMK Minimal for the smolest ortho kit.
Often 40s compat gets lost in the dust with some of the smaller keycap sets that come out but I can't imagine a Camping off-shoot to miss MOQ on any kits within reason.
Post by: nasp on Sat, 17 August 2019, 17:23:41
Is there any chance of minimal 40s keys for this set? i.e. 175 Enter, 125 Tab, R2 Escape. That'd be it.
Or, for ortho, you can check in with GMK Minimal for the smolest ortho kit.
Often 40s compat gets lost in the dust with some of the smaller keycap sets that come out but I can't imagine a Camping off-shoot to miss MOQ on any kits within reason.
Yes, would also love to see 40's support, if at the very least just 40's ortho.
Since your spacebar kit already has a 2u bar, you'd only need 4, 1u keys:
R2: Out
R3: Data or Read
R4: Enter and Shift
Optional, but nice to have would be 2, 1u convex keys.
Thanks for considering!
Op
Post by: Rayndalf on Sat, 17 August 2019, 17:33:26
I like thes idea, ambiguous legends are so much nicer than 4 escape keys and 2 tab keys (and cheaper too)Is there any chance of minimal 40s keys for this set? i.e. 175 Enter, 125 Tab, R2 Escape. That'd be it.
Or, for ortho, you can check in with GMK Minimal for the smolest ortho kit.
Often 40s compat gets lost in the dust with some of the smaller keycap sets that come out but I can't imagine a Camping off-shoot to miss MOQ on any kits within reason.
Yes, would also love to see 40's support, if at the very least just 40's ortho.
Since your spacebar kit already has a 2u bar, you'd only need 4, 1u keys:
R2: Out
R3: Data or Read
R4: Enter and Shift
Optional, but nice to have would be 2, 1u convex keys.
Thanks for considering!
Op
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sat, 17 August 2019, 21:34:06
I like everything else though
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 18 August 2019, 03:14:23
Is there any chance of minimal 40s keys for this set? i.e. 175 Enter, 125 Tab, R2 Escape. That'd be it.
Or, for ortho, you can check in with GMK Minimal for the smolest ortho kit.
Often 40s compat gets lost in the dust with some of the smaller keycap sets that come out but I can't imagine a Camping off-shoot to miss MOQ on any kits within reason.
Yes, would also love to see 40's support, if at the very least just 40's ortho.
Since your spacebar kit already has a 2u bar, you'd only need 4, 1u keys:
R2: Out
R3: Data or Read
R4: Enter and Shift
Optional, but nice to have would be 2, 1u convex keys.
Thanks for considering!
Op
I'm not a 40s expert, I don't have any ortho board neither...
But I'd like to consider offer a minimum 40s kit.
What is the correct row and size of keys?
Post by: ST999 on Sun, 18 August 2019, 10:20:39
Apart from that the novelties look really good!
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Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 18 August 2019, 15:10:27
(https://imgur.com/K0jaKpK.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/bAvC7c8.jpg)
Post by: ghost990 on Sun, 18 August 2019, 15:47:44
Update 18/08/2019: Kit design rev. 2Show Image(https://imgur.com/K0jaKpK.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/bAvC7c8.jpg)
Fantastic update :D Excited for the GB
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 18 August 2019, 16:43:16
I wish Japanese sublegend alphas were a separate kit. If not, then please offer a separate kit of alphas without the sublegends.
I like everything else though
As many have already stated, I would like to have an alphas kit without the hiragana sub legends.
Apart from that the novelties look really good!
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this is camping in japan
you're thinking of camping
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 18 August 2019, 16:52:06
I wish Japanese sublegend alphas were a separate kit. If not, then please offer a separate kit of alphas without the sublegends.
I like everything else thoughAs many have already stated, I would like to have an alphas kit without the hiragana sub legends.
Apart from that the novelties look really good!
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this is camping in japan
you're thinking of camping
I think a lot of people are not getting the fact this a separate set from Camping, not Camping Rd.2. Camping was popular enough in both GMK & SA that I'm sure we'll see another round of one or the other sooner than later. So don't get to worked up about no mono legend alphas with this set guys!
Post by: Rayndalf on Sun, 18 August 2019, 17:28:38
Post by: eskimojo on Sun, 18 August 2019, 21:17:57
Camping was popular enough in both GMK & SA that I'm sure we'll see another round of one or the other sooner than later. So don't get to worked up about no mono legend alphas with this set guys!
except that this set only exists because the runner doesn't want to make an r2 because the owners of r1 will be sad
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 19 August 2019, 02:37:31
I wish Japanese sublegend alphas were a separate kit. If not, then please offer a separate kit of alphas without the sublegends.
I like everything else thoughAs many have already stated, I would like to have an alphas kit without the hiragana sub legends.
Apart from that the novelties look really good!
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this is camping in japan
you're thinking of camping
No. I'm not. I'm thinking that the concept is well represented enough in the Novelties.
I lived in Japan.
I can type in Japanese. The sublegends aren't pleasant looking to me--they're too busy without being functional.
Just something I've been wondering:
How much support do Japanese people give towards Hiragana or Katakana sublegends?
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 19 August 2019, 02:43:35
I wish Japanese sublegend alphas were a separate kit. If not, then please offer a separate kit of alphas without the sublegends.
I like everything else thoughAs many have already stated, I would like to have an alphas kit without the hiragana sub legends.
Apart from that the novelties look really good!
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this is camping in japan
you're thinking of camping
No. I'm not. I'm thinking that the concept is well represented enough in the Novelties.
I lived in Japan.
I can type in Japanese. The sublegends aren't pleasant looking to me--they're too busy without being functional.
Just something I've been wondering:
How much support do Japanese people give towards Hiragana or Katakana sublegends?
GMK sets don't have foreign sublegends because the designers want to offer a keyset to that demographic (in this case towards Japanese), they have sublegends because people think they are cool. So the question is not "how much support do Japanese people give" but "how much support do keyboard people give".
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 19 August 2019, 03:22:40
GMK sets don't have foreign sublegends because the designers want to offer a keyset to that demographic (in this case towards Japanese), they have sublegends because people think they are cool. So the question is not "how much support do Japanese people give" but "how much support do keyboard people give".
I understand that. It was just something I've been wondering--an aside.
I'm sure people will support this set, regardless.
I just feel it would look better--cooler--while still presenting a Japanese theme without the sublegends.
Post by: Hell-es on Mon, 19 August 2019, 03:54:09
Post by: typischt on Mon, 19 August 2019, 05:11:52
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 19 August 2019, 05:43:56
GMK sets don't have foreign sublegends because the designers want to offer a keyset to that demographic (in this case towards Japanese), they have sublegends because people think they are cool. So the question is not "how much support do Japanese people give" but "how much support do keyboard people give".
I understand that. It was just something I've been wondering--an aside.
I'm sure people will support this set, regardless.
I just feel it would look better--cooler--while still presenting a Japanese theme without the sublegends.
Like I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 19 August 2019, 05:46:22
Post by: adxlk on Mon, 19 August 2019, 06:38:52
GMK sets don't have foreign sublegends because the designers want to offer a keyset to that demographic (in this case towards Japanese), they have sublegends because people think they are cool. So the question is not "how much support do Japanese people give" but "how much support do keyboard people give".
I understand that. It was just something I've been wondering--an aside.
I'm sure people will support this set, regardless.
I just feel it would look better--cooler--while still presenting a Japanese theme without the sublegends.
Like I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
sent u a pm
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 19 August 2019, 08:00:46
It’s your GB, but I still prefer it when a GB is not run by a committee and avoids straying from the designer’s original direction.GMK sets don't have foreign sublegends because the designers want to offer a keyset to that demographic (in this case towards Japanese), they have sublegends because people think they are cool. So the question is not "how much support do Japanese people give" but "how much support do keyboard people give".
I understand that. It was just something I've been wondering--an aside.
I'm sure people will support this set, regardless.
I just feel it would look better--cooler--while still presenting a Japanese theme without the sublegends.
Like I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
Remember, those of us who are happy with JP sublegends have no reason to speak out, so you’ve only been hearing from the upset crowd.
Post by: Laughmaster on Mon, 19 August 2019, 08:06:27
Please don‘t replace the green ISO enter with the accented one! :(
Ditto to this sentiment. This came up in the IC for the original GMK camping as well - ISO and numpad users are being forced to use the accent colors now that the normal mod colors have been removed for ISO and numpad return keys. The accents are great, but the set still looks fantastic without them. Please bring back the green ISO and numpad return.
I'd also like to say, I don't really care much about the idea of offering a separate kit for mono English alphas, as long as it doesn't change the base kit to allow people to buy the set without the hiragana legends. My knee-jerk reaction was to be a bit peeved since you said GMK Camping would never be offered again during the original IC, but after thinking about it a bit I really don't care. It's a popular set for a reason, and I think it would be wrong to begrudge people for wanting it. But at the very least they should be contributing towards hitting MOQ and reducing the price of the intended base kit.
Post by: varzaman on Mon, 19 August 2019, 08:16:13
GMK sets don't have foreign sublegends because the designers want to offer a keyset to that demographic (in this case towards Japanese), they have sublegends because people think they are cool. So the question is not "how much support do Japanese people give" but "how much support do keyboard people give".
I understand that. It was just something I've been wondering--an aside.
I'm sure people will support this set, regardless.
I just feel it would look better--cooler--while still presenting a Japanese theme without the sublegends.
Like I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
I would buy in if there are Latin alphas offered.
Post by: varzaman on Mon, 19 August 2019, 08:18:12
It’s your GB, but I still prefer it when a GB is not run by a committee and avoids straying from the designer’s original direction.GMK sets don't have foreign sublegends because the designers want to offer a keyset to that demographic (in this case towards Japanese), they have sublegends because people think they are cool. So the question is not "how much support do Japanese people give" but "how much support do keyboard people give".
I understand that. It was just something I've been wondering--an aside.
I'm sure people will support this set, regardless.
I just feel it would look better--cooler--while still presenting a Japanese theme without the sublegends.
Like I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
Remember, those of us who are happy with JP sublegends have no reason to speak out, so you’ve only been hearing from the upset crowd.
That is true, but if feedback is being asked, people will speak out their mind. So I wouldn't completely discount it either. Group buys usually aren't that massive either, so individual comments are more "powerful" if that makes any sense.
Either way, it is totally up to kingnestea, I wouldn't be upset if the direction goes in a different direction then I would want.
Post by: Hell-es on Mon, 19 August 2019, 08:53:57
good point - would prefer both ;) if just one ... don‘t know if accent color or notPlease don‘t replace the green ISO enter with the accented one! :(
Ditto to this sentiment. This came up in the IC for the original GMK camping as well - ISO and numpad users are being forced to use the accent colors now that the normal mod colors have been removed for ISO and numpad return keys. The accents are great, but the set still looks fantastic without them. Please bring back the green ISO and numpad return.
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 19 August 2019, 09:56:13
Please don‘t replace the green ISO enter with the accented one! :(
Ditto to this sentiment. This came up in the IC for the original GMK camping as well - ISO and numpad users are being forced to use the accent colors now that the normal mod colors have been removed for ISO and numpad return keys. The accents are great, but the set still looks fantastic without them. Please bring back the green ISO and numpad return.
I'd also like to say, I don't really care much about the idea of offering a separate kit for mono English alphas, as long as it doesn't change the base kit to allow people to buy the set without the hiragana legends. My knee-jerk reaction was to be a bit peeved since you said GMK Camping would never be offered again during the original IC, but after thinking about it a bit I really don't care. It's a popular set for a reason, and I think it would be wrong to begrudge people for wanting it. But at the very least they should be contributing towards hitting MOQ and reducing the price of the intended base kit.
I cut the green ISO enter and numpad enter in this revision because the pricing was a little bit higher than I have expected.
I'll see if this revision makes a decent reduce of the pricing for the base kit, if not, I'll consider adding the green enters back.
If I'm going to do a separated Latin alpha kit, it is not to impact the Hiragana base, as that's the initial purpose of this run.
Ppl who choose the Hiragana base can skip the Latin alphas, we'll drop the Latin alphas if it fails.
Post by: Laughmaster on Mon, 19 August 2019, 10:21:27
Please don‘t replace the green ISO enter with the accented one! :(
Ditto to this sentiment. This came up in the IC for the original GMK camping as well - ISO and numpad users are being forced to use the accent colors now that the normal mod colors have been removed for ISO and numpad return keys. The accents are great, but the set still looks fantastic without them. Please bring back the green ISO and numpad return.
I'd also like to say, I don't really care much about the idea of offering a separate kit for mono English alphas, as long as it doesn't change the base kit to allow people to buy the set without the hiragana legends. My knee-jerk reaction was to be a bit peeved since you said GMK Camping would never be offered again during the original IC, but after thinking about it a bit I really don't care. It's a popular set for a reason, and I think it would be wrong to begrudge people for wanting it. But at the very least they should be contributing towards hitting MOQ and reducing the price of the intended base kit.
I cut the green ISO enter and numpad enter in this revision because the pricing was a little bit higher than I have expected.
I'll see if this revision makes a decent reduce of the pricing for the base kit, if not, I'll consider adding the green enters back.
If I'm going to do a separated Latin alpha kit, it is not to impact the Hiragana base, as that's the initial purpose of this run.
Ppl who choose the Hiragana base can skip the Latin alphas, we'll drop the Latin alphas if it fails.
Thanks for the clarifications! One last little nitpick that I just noticed: The numpad enter says "Enter" rather than "Return" like the other ones.
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 19 August 2019, 10:48:58
Thanks for the clarifications! One last little nitpick that I just noticed: The numpad enter says "Enter" rather than "Return" like the other ones.
Return comes from Carriage Return (CR), the command to begin a new line (and the term stemming from typewriters where the Carriage would Return to the start of the line). While the Enter on the Numpad 'enters' whatever equation you just typed in. While they may do the same thing when you are in Notepad, system wise they have different tasks.
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 19 August 2019, 10:57:50
(https://imgur.com/fNbRA6r.jpg)
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 19 August 2019, 12:37:47
Thanks for the clarifications! One last little nitpick that I just noticed: The numpad enter says "Enter" rather than "Return" like the other ones.
Return comes from Carriage Return (CR), the command to begin a new line (and the term stemming from typewriters where the Carriage would Return to the start of the line). While the Enter on the Numpad 'enters' whatever equation you just typed in. While they may do the same thing when you are in Notepad, system wise they have different tasks.
Not just that, but in older terminal keyboards, Return and Enter were different keys, a distinction that has largely been lost nowadays. Return would simply jump to a new line, while Enter would "complete" the input and tell the computer to execute the command that had just been given (which may, indeed, have been typed into one line or more). Nowadays, Enter does both, and if one wants to do an "enterless" Return, Shift-Enter is generally available in whatever text window the user is on at the moment (chat windows are the prime example of this).
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 19 August 2019, 12:54:17
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 19 August 2019, 15:17:34
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Post by: rondg on Mon, 19 August 2019, 16:59:12
Thanks for the clarifications! One last little nitpick that I just noticed: The numpad enter says "Enter" rather than "Return" like the other ones.
Return comes from Carriage Return (CR), the command to begin a new line (and the term stemming from typewriters where the Carriage would Return to the start of the line). While the Enter on the Numpad 'enters' whatever equation you just typed in. While they may do the same thing when you are in Notepad, system wise they have different tasks.
Thanks for the clarifications! One last little nitpick that I just noticed: The numpad enter says "Enter" rather than "Return" like the other ones.
Return comes from Carriage Return (CR), the command to begin a new line (and the term stemming from typewriters where the Carriage would Return to the start of the line). While the Enter on the Numpad 'enters' whatever equation you just typed in. While they may do the same thing when you are in Notepad, system wise they have different tasks.
Not just that, but in older terminal keyboards, Return and Enter were different keys, a distinction that has largely been lost nowadays. Return would simply jump to a new line, while Enter would "complete" the input and tell the computer to execute the command that had just been given (which may, indeed, have been typed into one line or more). Nowadays, Enter does both, and if one wants to do an "enterless" Return, Shift-Enter is generally available in whatever text window the user is on at the moment (chat windows are the prime example of this).
Today, I learned something new...
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 19 August 2019, 17:08:32
Camping was popular enough in both GMK & SA that I'm sure we'll see another round of one or the other sooner than later. So don't get to worked up about no mono legend alphas with this set guys!
except that this set only exists because the runner doesn't want to make an r2 because the owners of r1 will be sad
Oh did not know that, kinda depressing as I would love to see a Camping Rd.2 in GMK or SA. Although it still does not negate the fact this a seperate kit from Camping & the sub legends are crucial to the theme.
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 19 August 2019, 18:52:48
Like I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
I appreciate you considering it!
It is your design, you choice.
If latin alphas are offered as extras, I'll be picking up a whole set with all the extras.
If they're not available, I'll still pick up all the extra kits and just wait for Camping R2.
Either way, you've got my money.
Post by: jortzii on Mon, 19 August 2019, 22:57:21
this is really cool. any chance of a regular white 6u space being included in the space kit? just so us 6u users can have a non-accented spacebar? :D
Seconding this because I think 6u is the play for the Volcano660 in forest green I'm getting
Post by: SantiGo on Tue, 20 August 2019, 04:52:27
Post by: digid3ar on Wed, 21 August 2019, 00:34:25
Post by: DJ Shoko on Wed, 21 August 2019, 03:42:08
Like I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
If a second alphas kit does get offered, I do suggest adding a second tab for the second alphas kit. This way the extra mods and the unused alphas can be used for a second board without having them sit in the tray. If not then I don't feel like a second tab is needed, but I just don't want so many keys to be unused if a second alphas kit does get added.
Drew a picture to try to illustrate it.
(https://raysasquach.s-ul.eu/D5mOkxem.png)
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 21 August 2019, 04:41:22
If a second alphas kit does get offered, I do suggest adding a second tab for the second alphas kit. This way the extra mods and the unused alphas can be used for a second board without having them sit in the tray. If not then I don't feel like a second tab is needed, but I just don't want so many keys to be unused if a second alphas kit does get added.
For that matter, add a second Home
Post by: OtherAndrew on Wed, 21 August 2019, 04:51:21
If a second alphas kit does get offered, I do suggest adding a second tab for the second alphas kit. This way the extra mods and the unused alphas can be used for a second board without having them sit in the tray. If not then I don't feel like a second tab is needed, but I just don't want so many keys to be unused if a second alphas kit does get added.
For that matter, add a second Homeby the Seakey and with it plus an extra set of arrows, that 60% could be made into a 65% as well.
tkl and numpad mods too pls k thx
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 22 August 2019, 02:28:25
This is a great idea, thanks a tonLike I said before...This one has hiragana sublegends because I think it looks good and balances the legends on the surface for GMK sets..
I think designing keysets is pretty important to stick with what you think it's cool, you don't want to run a set that you will regret in the future..
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
If a second alphas kit does get offered, I do suggest adding a second tab for the second alphas kit. This way the extra mods and the unused alphas can be used for a second board without having them sit in the tray. If not then I don't feel like a second tab is needed, but I just don't want so many keys to be unused if a second alphas kit does get added.
Drew a picture to try to illustrate it.Show Image(https://raysasquach.s-ul.eu/D5mOkxem.png)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 23 August 2019, 05:28:58
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 23 August 2019, 06:51:43
But I'm considering offer the latin alphas as a separated kit if there is enough demand for that.
Not my initial idea for this run, but I do listen...
Tossing in support for some latin alphas, hiragana sublegends is a no go.
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 23 August 2019, 16:05:00
(https://imgur.com/ytalJWj.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/BIYVWmb.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/4tPWgzo.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/nCmm45A.jpg)
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Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 23 August 2019, 16:51:21
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Fri, 23 August 2019, 17:20:57
Post by: DJ Shoko on Fri, 23 August 2019, 18:19:52
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Post by: dallman5 on Fri, 23 August 2019, 19:32:04
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 23 August 2019, 20:20:57
I don’t think you need the spacebar in the Latin alphas but other than that looks great! Really looking forward to the GB :)
shh, it's a Latin spacebar
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 23 August 2019, 20:43:24
A Hiragana kit and latin alphas in the main base kit would make more sense in my opinion. This way camping r1 owners can own both alphas without having to buy the whole base kit. I also think more people prefer the latin to hiragana. :thumb:You guys just won the battle convincing kingnestea to include a latin alpha kit.
Don’t be greedy now.
Post by: nasp on Fri, 23 August 2019, 20:48:36
I don’t think you need the spacebar in the Latin alphas but other than that looks great! Really looking forward to the GB :)
You do if you want to use the alphas with mods from another set. Granted, your layout options will be limited.
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 23 August 2019, 21:54:01
Post by: hammerbrotha on Fri, 23 August 2019, 22:58:15
Thanks!
Post by: dallman5 on Sat, 24 August 2019, 00:42:54
I don’t think you need the spacebar in the Latin alphas but other than that looks great! Really looking forward to the GB :)
You do if you want to use the alphas with mods from another set. Granted, your layout options will be limited.
Valid point. Either way, it should be 6.25/7u both included or neither, seems silly just to provide one.
Post by: ST999 on Sat, 24 August 2019, 02:27:20
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 24 August 2019, 05:33:03
I don’t think you need the spacebar in the Latin alphas but other than that looks great! Really looking forward to the GB :)
You do if you want to use the alphas with mods from another set. Granted, your layout options will be limited.
Valid point. Either way, it should be 6.25/7u both included or neither, seems silly just to provide one.
I agree, removed the spacebar in Latin alphas kit
Post by: guzzi on Sat, 24 August 2019, 09:46:17
Update 23/08/2019: Kit design rev. 3Show Image(https://imgur.com/ytalJWj.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/BIYVWmb.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/4tPWgzo.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/nCmm45A.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/EsCZdLH.jpg)
Thank you for listening to the feedback and reconsidering a point you were somewhat set on initially.
Count me in.
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 24 August 2019, 12:54:03
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 24 August 2019, 12:58:05
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 24 August 2019, 13:08:51
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 24 August 2019, 13:09:37
Asking for kobe kit will probably be too much :cool:.?
Please... :(
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 24 August 2019, 13:11:34
Since Latin alphas will be provided, I'm renaming this to Camping r2 which is more logical and to avoid confusions in the future.
Can we keep the signature as is? :P
Post by: delet_d on Sat, 24 August 2019, 13:50:26
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 24 August 2019, 13:53:29
Asking for kobe kit will probably be too much :cool:.?
Please... :(
Just joking - i‘m really happy with sub legends ;)
No offense meant
Waiting for GB start :thumb:
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 24 August 2019, 16:39:57
Since Latin alphas will be provided, I'm renaming this to Camping r2 which is more logical and to avoid confusions in the future.
Can we keep the signature as is? :P
I'm keeping it
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 24 August 2019, 22:08:47
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sat, 24 August 2019, 22:50:54
This is great! But wouldn't it make sense to have latin alphas in the base, and hiragana sub-legends in a separate kit? That way, R1 owners can get the hiragana kit and new novelties, without buying the other base kit keys.And for the rest of us who find latin alphas boring and prefer hiragana?
Goddamn, I hope OP wouldn't cave to these R1 buyers' demands again. Camping In Japan was such a great theme and should not be squandered by this sort of committee design.
Post by: kidpid on Sat, 24 August 2019, 23:43:46
This is great! But wouldn't it make sense to have latin alphas in the base, and hiragana sub-legends in a separate kit? That way, R1 owners can get the hiragana kit and new novelties, without buying the other base kit keys.And for the rest of us who find latin alphas boring and prefer hiragana?
Goddamn, I hope OP wouldn't cave to these R1 buyers' demands again. Camping In Japan was such a great theme and should not be squandered by this sort of committee design.
As someone who prefers the Hiragana alphas I see no harm in adding an additional kit for those that want Latin alphas.
Post by: Kokaloo on Sun, 25 August 2019, 00:04:17
This is great! But wouldn't it make sense to have latin alphas in the base, and hiragana sub-legends in a separate kit? That way, R1 owners can get the hiragana kit and new novelties, without buying the other base kit keys.And for the rest of us who find latin alphas boring and prefer hiragana?
Goddamn, I hope OP wouldn't cave to these R1 buyers' demands again. Camping In Japan was such a great theme and should not be squandered by this sort of committee design.
BRO you don't even have to BUY the Latin alphas lmao
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 25 August 2019, 00:18:10
This is great! But wouldn't it make sense to have latin alphas in the base, and hiragana sub-legends in a separate kit? That way, R1 owners can get the hiragana kit and new novelties, without buying the other base kit keys.And for the rest of us who find latin alphas boring and prefer hiragana?
Goddamn, I hope OP wouldn't cave to these R1 buyers' demands again. Camping In Japan was such a great theme and should not be squandered by this sort of committee design.
BRO you don't even have to BUY the Latin alphas lmao
I believe he’s saying that he doesn’t want hiragana as an add on
Post by: Sigil on Sun, 25 August 2019, 00:27:53
Post by: Ashardalon on Sun, 25 August 2019, 01:58:28
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 25 August 2019, 02:33:36
This is great! But wouldn't it make sense to have latin alphas in the base, and hiragana sub-legends in a separate kit? That way, R1 owners can get the hiragana kit and new novelties, without buying the other base kit keys.
If you read through the whole thread, Hiragana was the initial intention of this run.
And since it is Japan themed, Hiragana makes more sense in the base.
A separated Latin alphas kit is the last thing I can do for those who prefer Latin alphas.
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 25 August 2019, 04:05:54
Someone correct me if this has changed since I checked with them :)
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 25 August 2019, 04:11:34
my info might be outdated, but when I last checked with GMK they only offered japanese sublegends if the alphas were part of the core kit, not an addon kit (that would have to be kobe as an addon).
Someone correct me if this has changed since I checked with them :)
Pretty sure that's currently not the case, I don't see why they would prohibit that. Maybe that was back when the legends weren't made yet and it made it cost prohibitive or so?
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 25 August 2019, 05:33:38
my info might be outdated, but when I last checked with GMK they only offered japanese sublegends if the alphas were part of the core kit, not an addon kit (that would have to be kobe as an addon).
Someone correct me if this has changed since I checked with them :)
Pretty sure that's currently not the case, I don't see why they would prohibit that. Maybe that was back when the legends weren't made yet and it made it cost prohibitive or so?
Nope, that was when I was looking to get quotes for GMK Oasis (Laser already dropped and shipped so they had the molds).
Post by: BeHell on Sun, 25 August 2019, 07:27:55
Great set.
Post by: Esheu2 on Sun, 25 August 2019, 07:37:18
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 25 August 2019, 08:07:53
I have to say that, now that this is camping r2, I would prefer latin alphas in the base kit and the hiragana in an add on kit.
He has already said this will not happen ^^ he wants to stick with his first idea of Japan, please people stop requesting that :P
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 25 August 2019, 08:08:54
my info might be outdated, but when I last checked with GMK they only offered japanese sublegends if the alphas were part of the core kit, not an addon kit (that would have to be kobe as an addon).
Someone correct me if this has changed since I checked with them :)
Are you referring to a hiragana kit like gmk vaporwave had?
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 25 August 2019, 08:10:53
my info might be outdated, but when I last checked with GMK they only offered japanese sublegends if the alphas were part of the core kit, not an addon kit (that would have to be kobe as an addon).
Someone correct me if this has changed since I checked with them :)
Are you referring to a hiragana kit like gmk vaporwave had?
Thanks :D that's the kit and looks like my info is indeed outdate (was a year ago). I found that weird that GMK refused to run a kit with japanese sublegends but I'm glad they came back on their idea :D
Post by: crd on Sun, 25 August 2019, 09:42:37
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sun, 25 August 2019, 15:38:20
If you read through the whole thread, Hiragana was the initial intention of this run.
And since it is Japan themed, Hiragana makes more sense in the base.
A separated Latin alphas kit is the last thing I can do for those who prefer Latin alphas.
Totally appreciate this. And honestly, even though I'm not a fan of hiragana sublegends, when I saw WoB's Hiragana only alphas, I think it looks great.
This is another legendary set in the making.
Jae and Brian mentioned it in Top Clack, but with all the new sets coming out at a crazy fast rate, their isn't as much need for sets to be re-run. However, there are certain sets that should just be available all the time--like WoB, Minimal, etc.
I think Camping and HFO are sets that should be like that, too, because their popularity isn't based on hype but just really good, universally-liked design.
Post by: varzaman on Sun, 25 August 2019, 18:02:26
Post by: chive_ on Sun, 25 August 2019, 19:37:35
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 26 August 2019, 15:25:48
my info might be outdated, but when I last checked with GMK they only offered japanese sublegends if the alphas were part of the core kit, not an addon kit (that would have to be kobe as an addon).
Someone correct me if this has changed since I checked with them :)
Are you referring to a hiragana kit like gmk vaporwave had?
Thanks :D that's the kit and looks like my info is indeed outdate (was a year ago). I found that weird that GMK refused to run a kit with japanese sublegends but I'm glad they came back on their idea :D
Np! It's a fantastic kit, probably won't happen for this gb since it'll stay in the base most likely
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Mon, 26 August 2019, 16:39:59
Post by: axios67 on Mon, 26 August 2019, 18:33:43
Suggestion: make the numpad a separate kit to lower base kit price
Seconded
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Mon, 26 August 2019, 19:21:23
should have keep this as Camping In Japan. :rolleyes:
kingnestea, people will keep complaining until you put the latin alpha in the base, same for separating the the numpad.
I think you should change this IC back to "Camping In Japan" and remove the latin alpha kit.
Post by: Laughmaster on Mon, 26 August 2019, 19:40:59
people just want to buy GMK Camping r1 at GB price, lol
should have keep this as Camping In Japan. :rolleyes:
kingnestea, people will keep complaining until you put the latin alpha in the base, same for separating the the numpad.
I think you should change this IC back to "Camping In Japan" and remove the latin alpha kit.
Eh, removing things will just increase the complaints. And I think he's made it plenty clear by now that offering the latin alphas is just a way to boost sales of the base kit. But I don't really see either the numpad splitting off or the latin alphas in the base kit happening. Neither of those things will really increase sales for the intended base kit.
I do agree that people are just trying to get a 2nd run of the original Camping set, but there's no point in trying to stop that IMO. The people who already bought R1 are less likely to buy this, so it's pretty important to get the people who missed out before on board now.
Post by: roasted_cherry on Mon, 26 August 2019, 20:34:26
Post by: ctrlshiftba on Mon, 26 August 2019, 21:30:50
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 26 August 2019, 22:59:49
people just want to buy GMK Camping r1 at GB price, lol
should have keep this as Camping In Japan. :rolleyes:
kingnestea, people will keep complaining until you put the latin alpha in the base, same for separating the the numpad.
I think you should change this IC back to "Camping In Japan" and remove the latin alpha kit.
I do agree that people are just trying to get a 2nd run of the original Camping set, but there's no point in trying to stop that IMO. The people who already bought R1 are less likely to buy this, so it's pretty important to get the people who missed out before on board now.
I think the most ppl who speaks out here because the base kit design doesn't satisfy them, but they don't represent the silent majority.
I also see camping r1 owners expressing interest in this. As a owner of r1, this is what I think I'm missing from the set, you can disagree but I believe there are ppl who share the same vision as I do.
I think you are not pretty understanding my position, if I have to re-run the same stuff of r1, I'd rather just drop the run.
re-running the same stuff is imo milking the set but no innovation, I totally understand if you do not dig this version of Camping, but please stop asking for a re-run of r1 stuff.
Because that's not something I want to do, I hope you understand.
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 26 August 2019, 23:18:36
Post by: cari on Mon, 26 August 2019, 23:27:55
I don't find that it was necessary for you to change the IC to GMK Camping R2. I think the Camping in Japan theme is really cute and fun. By offering latin alpha kit, it already satisfied the possible buyers who want them and a win-win situation for current design of the base kit. Obviously it means latin buyers would be paying more but I'm sure current base kit + alpha kit comes out less than the aftermarket price of current existing GMK Camping. And thinking positively if this GB barely meets MOQ because people decide to pass it for not having latin alpha in base, I'm sure it will end up being in a high demand keyset (a bad comparison, but look at Bento :))).
Post by: Rejeckted on Mon, 26 August 2019, 23:29:46
Also, would love a 1u shift in the base kit!
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 26 August 2019, 23:47:02
I would fall into the silent majority. I know that you're still sticking with your original intention but I decide to leave a comment because apparently not voicing your opinion during IC does affect the outcome of the GB.
I don't find that it was necessary for you to change the IC to GMK Camping R2. I think the Camping in Japan theme is really cute and fun. By offering latin alpha kit, it already satisfied the possible buyers who want them and a win-win situation for current design of the base kit. Obviously it means latin buyers would be paying more but I'm sure current base kit + alpha kit comes out less than the aftermarket price of current existing GMK Camping. And thinking positively if this GB barely meets MOQ because people decide to pass it for not having latin alpha in base, I'm sure it will end up being in a high demand keyset (a bad comparison, but look at Bento :))).
I changed the IC to Camping r2 because I think it is more sequential in the future when ppl talk about Camping.
Thank you for speaking out, that's really helpful.
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 26 August 2019, 23:48:20
I missed out on the first round. I'm in luck though because I prefer Gaijin aesthetically anyway! Count me in.
Also, would love a 1u shift in the base kit!
1u shift for which layout?
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 26 August 2019, 23:58:33
Probably ortho, in which case getting the Novelties would be a better idea.I missed out on the first round. I'm in luck though because I prefer Gaijin aesthetically anyway! Count me in.
Also, would love a 1u shift in the base kit!
1u shift for which layout?
Post by: Rejeckted on Tue, 27 August 2019, 01:04:41
I missed out on the first round. I'm in luck though because I prefer Gaijin aesthetically anyway! Count me in.
Also, would love a 1u shift in the base kit!
1u shift for which layout?
60% (GK64 PCB)
Post by: Hell-es on Tue, 27 August 2019, 01:49:40
Its nice that you don‘t just do a re run, even if i would also like to have r1 noveltys.
Great fan of the sub legends, that why i also bought bento.
Post by: henrysharoop on Tue, 27 August 2019, 03:48:53
Post by: Laughmaster on Tue, 27 August 2019, 06:56:18
That's exactly the thing I was trying to point out to the guy I was quoting ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I think you are not pretty understanding my position, if I have to re-run the same stuff of r1, I'd rather just drop the run.people just want to buy GMK Camping r1 at GB price, lol
should have keep this as Camping In Japan. :rolleyes:
kingnestea, people will keep complaining until you put the latin alpha in the base, same for separating the the numpad.
I think you should change this IC back to "Camping In Japan" and remove the latin alpha kit.
I do agree that people are just trying to get a 2nd run of the original Camping set, but there's no point in trying to stop that IMO. The people who already bought R1 are less likely to buy this, so it's pretty important to get the people who missed out before on board now.
For the record, I am very happy that this isn't just a rerun of R1. Changing everything up keeps the set fresh. Adding in Latin alphas as a kit is fine since it will increase sales of the base kit and hopefully make it cheaper for everyone, but I wouldn't like everything to be the same as before.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 29 August 2019, 08:45:59
with r1 novelties it would be perfect!
:facepalm:
Its about moving the design forward, not backwards.
Like adding hiragana only alphas (kobe)
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Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 31 August 2019, 02:03:03
(https://imgur.com/aHOxmAi.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/AaC5d37.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/tW9vYqA.jpg)
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Post by: stevenT on Sat, 31 August 2019, 07:11:54
Renders by Janglad with DharmaProbably just my idea but I don't think we need more than 1 color of spacebar, how about removing white one and keep red one only?Show Image(https://imgur.com/aHOxmAi.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/AaC5d37.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/tW9vYqA.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/qzpnEGo.jpg)
Post by: Hell-es on Sat, 31 August 2019, 10:16:48
Renders by Janglad with DharmaProbably just my idea but I don't think we need more than 1 color of spacebar, how about removing white one and keep red one only?Show Image(https://imgur.com/aHOxmAi.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/AaC5d37.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/tW9vYqA.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/qzpnEGo.jpg)
Don‘t think this is a good idea, there should always be space in alpha background color.
Still hope for green iso enter next to red one (or other way round ;))
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sat, 31 August 2019, 19:47:42
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 01 September 2019, 05:42:23
Post by: theasian on Sun, 01 September 2019, 11:27:37
Post by: JackieX on Mon, 02 September 2019, 05:18:40
Renders by Janglad with DharmaShow Image(https://imgur.com/aHOxmAi.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/AaC5d37.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/tW9vYqA.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/qzpnEGo.jpg)
Could I request the numpad area with arrow sub-legend together with number 2,4,6,8.
I found some GMK set have this sub legend, but GMK Camping row 1 dont have it.
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 02 September 2019, 12:09:50
Yes, this was planned a while ago. Will probably update with the next revisionRenders by Janglad with DharmaShow Image(https://imgur.com/aHOxmAi.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/AaC5d37.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/tW9vYqA.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/qzpnEGo.jpg)
Could I request the numpad area with arrow sub-legend together with number 2,4,6,8.
I found some GMK set have this sub legend, but GMK Camping row 1 dont have it.
Post by: JackieX on Mon, 02 September 2019, 22:24:35
Post by: Athlio on Tue, 03 September 2019, 12:46:23
Post by: buffinmuffin on Thu, 05 September 2019, 01:45:03
I believe the success of previous camping novelties was great because of the use of negative space and how the minimal aesthetic emulated the images you would see from trail and road signs if you were to go camping.
I think a good novelty for the backspace or enter key is of a Japanese gate (torii). You see these gates in a good number of Japanese hiking trails and they have enough inherent linearity to fit the aesthetic of the other novelties, and most importantly, the camping theme. Also, despite my reservations on the Koi backspace key, I like how it pays homage to the previous iteration of the fish backspace key. For an enter key, I believe a design that is based on a landscape would do well to refer to the mountain enter key in previous rounds.
With that being said, a new round indicates some type of new variation to appease those who already have a previous Camping keyset. At my expense (because I do not own R1 novelties), I support your decision to not rerun the R1 novelties. Along the same vein, I think people should also understand from the thread that you're adamant on having the Hiragana sublegends in the base kit.
I already plan on purchasing the base set but am excited to see what other novelties you come up with given time and feedback!
I will watch your IC with great interest.
Post by: heavyheaded on Thu, 12 September 2019, 13:41:13
Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 15 September 2019, 05:20:03
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Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 15 September 2019, 11:04:15
GB will be available on Oct. 1st
(https://imgur.com/puWpWYd.jpg)
Post by: Hell-es on Sun, 15 September 2019, 13:16:10
Any infos on pricing and rama ?
Post by: Sigil on Sun, 15 September 2019, 15:54:38
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 15 September 2019, 16:59:10
Post by: gMit on Sun, 15 September 2019, 18:24:12
Post by: 8six753o9 on Sun, 15 September 2019, 23:51:06
Can you tell us who the vendors are? (I have a feeling it's going to be Kono for US since it was the vendor for R1)
Post by: typischt on Mon, 16 September 2019, 03:04:19
Thanks anyways, kingnestea. not sure yet, if I will be participating, but still appreciate all the work you put in this set, as it will bring a lot of joy to a lot of people anyways!
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 16 September 2019, 09:57:57
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.
(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
Post by: rrsurmeier on Mon, 16 September 2019, 11:20:22
The vendors currently are
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.Show Image(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
I think a red brass with a orange legend would look nice. It would contrast the rest of the set, or you could to a brown base cap with a green legend.
Post by: Hell-es on Mon, 16 September 2019, 12:36:02
The vendors currently arered glow in the dark would really fit with campfire optics :)
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.Show Image(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 16 September 2019, 13:00:55
Seconded! Red glow in the dark would be fire!The vendors currently arered glow in the dark would really fit with campfire optics :)
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.Show Image(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
Post by: hammerbrotha on Tue, 17 September 2019, 00:28:04
The vendors currently are
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.Show Image(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
Any chance there will be another price drop at 750 or 1000 MOQ? With the way sets have been selling lately, and the enthusiasm for this particular set (i definitely slept on it the first time), i think this is gonna sell pretty well. I'm really looking forward to it.
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 17 September 2019, 05:14:35
The vendors currently are
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.Show Image(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
Any chance there will be another price drop at 750 or 1000 MOQ? With the way sets have been selling lately, and the enthusiasm for this particular set (i definitely slept on it the first time), i think this is gonna sell pretty well. I'm really looking forward to it.
This is up to the vendors to decide.
As long as I understand from novelkeys, they can not do price drop, hence we are starting from 500MOQ.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 17 September 2019, 07:53:41
Any chance there will be another price drop at 750 or 1000 MOQ? With the way sets have been selling lately, and the enthusiasm for this particular set (i definitely slept on it the first time), i think this is gonna sell pretty well. I'm really looking forward to it.
what happened with GMK metropolis and novelkeys when the base cleared 1000 sets was that nephlock and novelkeys got...~8 keys added to the base-accent color arrows, a compatibility shift, something else for the same price. Emir/kono got an extra key for GMK Nines as well (the IX/IX key mid left here https://i.imgur.com/rLdz1AL.png) when MOQ was 250? but they got to 400-some base. so 1000 sets (totally possible!) might yield a perk.
the real value is the solid base price. there's other kits running in October that don't have numpads that are gonna be more than 115$
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 17 September 2019, 10:08:17
Any chance there will be another price drop at 750 or 1000 MOQ? With the way sets have been selling lately, and the enthusiasm for this particular set (i definitely slept on it the first time), i think this is gonna sell pretty well. I'm really looking forward to it.
what happened with GMK metropolis and novelkeys when the base cleared 1000 sets was that nephlock and novelkeys got...~8 keys added to the base-accent color arrows, a compatibility shift, something else for the same price. Emir/kono got an extra key for GMK Nines as well (the IX/IX key mid left here https://i.imgur.com/rLdz1AL.png) when MOQ was 250? but they got to 400-some base. so 1000 sets (totally possible!) might yield a perk.
the real value is the solid base price. there's other kits running in October that don't have numpads that are gonna be more than 115$
tbh, I have no idea about 1000 MOQ, there are so many sets running recently and gonna run.
But if we somehow fortunately hit 1000, I'll probably add the accent tail key and mod color enters if the vendors are impossible of doing price drop.
Post by: Hell-es on Tue, 17 September 2019, 13:50:01
Post by: toastyAU on Fri, 20 September 2019, 20:20:09
The vendors currently are
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.Show Image(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
Would you at all be open at looking at DailyClack for us out in Oceania? :)))
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 21 September 2019, 18:01:58
The vendors currently are
US: Novelkeys
EU: mykeyboard.eu
Asia/China: zFrontier
Base will be at $115 for 500MOQ on Novelkeys, the rest has to be sorted out with the vendors.
The artwork for the Rama cap is finalized, I still have to decide for the color so that they can make me a render.Show Image(https://imgur.com/YbpZGtP.jpg)
This what I have at the moment, what do you think about a maroon brass cap with beige legend?
Would you at all be open at looking at DailyClack for us out in Oceania? :)))
I'm open for all vendors, but they haven't contacted me yet.
Post by: Flexerman on Sun, 22 September 2019, 10:06:39
Post by: kingnestea on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:35:23
GB will start on Oct. 1st and ends on Oct. 25th.
Get ready! Geekhackers!
First render of the Rama cap, we are still adjusting the legend, will share new render once I receive it from Rama.
(https://imgur.com/tZmSFWh.jpg)
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:57:42
Post by: Hell-es on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:02:20
Daily Clack is added to the vendors for the Oceania fellows
GB will start on Oct. 1st and ends on Oct. 25th.
Get ready! Geekhackers!
First render of the Rama cap, we are still adjusting the legend, will share new render once I receive it from Rama.Show Image(https://imgur.com/tZmSFWh.jpg)
Is this doing what I think it‘s doing :thumb:
Post by: digid3ar on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:24:07
Post by: kingnestea on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:27:51
their is any hint in the noveltys price? can we expect to get base + noveltys for $160 ~ $170?
Base + Novelty kit shall be $170 flat on Novelkeys. If they don't change the pricing. ;)
Post by: Ensaum on Wed, 25 September 2019, 22:11:56
their is any hint in the noveltys price? can we expect to get base + noveltys for $160 ~ $170?
Base + Novelty kit shall be $170 flat on Novelkeys. If they don't change the pricing. ;)
What about base+latin alphas?
Post by: DJ Shoko on Wed, 25 September 2019, 23:14:46
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 26 September 2019, 11:04:38
The Latin alphas kit will be $62 on Novelkeystheir is any hint in the noveltys price? can we expect to get base + noveltys for $160 ~ $170?
Base + Novelty kit shall be $170 flat on Novelkeys. If they don't change the pricing. ;)
What about base+latin alphas?
Kingnestea already made next month very expensive for me, now he threw a RAMA cap to make it even more expensive. Please have mercy on me... and I usually don't even care for them.
I'm sorry about that ;)
Post by: 3ambutter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 13:12:05
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 26 September 2019, 22:56:06
(https://imgur.com/KD3AUT1.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/Cm7G0Gk.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/uUka79A.jpg)
We are all set for the GB!
Post by: renatalidiane on Fri, 27 September 2019, 03:37:18
Post by: LevelSteam on Fri, 27 September 2019, 08:09:47
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 27 September 2019, 09:47:24
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There will be latin alphas as well.
Post by: LevelSteam on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:11:44
Why every set post Laser has to have hiragana alphas in it is beyond me. I guess this set is great for Yuru Camp fans, and I wish it luck. I'll hold out for a re-run of the original gmk set or just pick it up on the aftermarket I guess.
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:18:58
Why every set post Laser has to have hiragana alphas in it is beyond me. I guess this set is great for Yuru Camp fans, and I wish it luck. I'll hold out for a re-run of the original gmk set or just pick it up on the aftermarket I guess.
I don't know about the other sets, but hiragana was the reason why I decided to do a re-run. The r1 GMK Camping will never happen again.
And I'm not a Yuru Camp fan, didn't even know what it is until ppl brought it up here.
Post by: LevelSteam on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:23:20
Why every set post Laser has to have hiragana alphas in it is beyond me. I guess this set is great for Yuru Camp fans, and I wish it luck. I'll hold out for a re-run of the original gmk set or just pick it up on the aftermarket I guess.
I don't know about the other sets, but hiragana was the reason why I decided to do a re-run. The r1 GMK Camping will never happen again.
And I'm not a Yuru Camp fan, didn't even know what it is until ppl brought it up here.
Has that been confirmed? I *just* got an email from Kono this morning regarding re-running a popular set and Camping was one of the first options listed.
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Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:26:45
Why every set post Laser has to have hiragana alphas in it is beyond me. I guess this set is great for Yuru Camp fans, and I wish it luck. I'll hold out for a re-run of the original gmk set or just pick it up on the aftermarket I guess.
I don't know about the other sets, but hiragana was the reason why I decided to do a re-run. The r1 GMK Camping will never happen again.
And I'm not a Yuru Camp fan, didn't even know what it is until ppl brought it up here.
Has that been confirmed? I *just* got an email from Kono this morning regarding re-running a popular set and Camping was one of the first options listed.
(Attachment Link)
check out my reply on reddit concerning this: https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/d9x2t0/gbgmk_camping_r2_launching_on_oct_1st/f1meudl?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
GMK will not re-produce Camping without my permission. I'm always in direct conversation with GMK for all my sets.
Post by: LevelSteam on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:37:33
Post by: Hell-es on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:45:24
Post by: ARSLOCK on Fri, 27 September 2019, 14:26:39
Post by: DJ Shoko on Fri, 27 September 2019, 15:07:21
Would anyone be interested in buying the japanese alphas only from this kit?
I'll trade the R1 Camping alphas for them probably :P
I'm buying two latin kits, might as well balance it with two Japanese alphas lol.
Post by: digid3ar on Fri, 27 September 2019, 18:46:50
Would anyone be interested in buying the japanese alphas only from this kit?
i love the theme "camping in japan", dont think these set of noveties is better than R1, but camping without noveltys is not camping
Post by: Ensaum on Fri, 27 September 2019, 21:09:51
Post by: NeroGrave on Sat, 28 September 2019, 14:04:21
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 28 September 2019, 15:11:40
Any idea how much the spacebar kit would go for?$28 on Novelkeys
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 28 September 2019, 15:14:34
Base kit: $115
Novelty kit: $55
Community kit: $17
Spacebars kit: $28
Latin alphas kit: $62
Camping Rama cap: $42
Post by: hammerbrotha on Sat, 28 September 2019, 23:24:35
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 28 September 2019, 23:30:32
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 29 September 2019, 00:08:57
Also, was there an estimated ship date?
Post by: tuilokee on Sun, 29 September 2019, 11:25:49
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 30 September 2019, 09:56:08
I think we are ready to launch.
There will be also a raffle artisan sale on packs of 3 awesome artisans made by Golden Star Keycaps.
Post by: flying1911 on Mon, 30 September 2019, 13:26:47
Post by: Butterbeer on Mon, 30 September 2019, 15:06:42
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 30 September 2019, 16:12:37
Is there a green enter key for the numpad that is not included in the final kits, but can be seen in the renders? Was the green enter key for the numpad cut from final production?The green enter key for ISO and numpad are cut during development.
I'd add those back if we hit 1000 MOQ as a compensation that we can not do price drop, maybe among with other keys
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 30 September 2019, 23:15:44
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 01 October 2019, 00:04:02
In for base and novelties.
Strongly considering adding latin alphas and space bars to be able to use it on two boards at the same time.
Post by: NeroGrave on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:17:23
Also, will certain sets be unavailable once they reach MOQ or its unlimited till the end of the GB?
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:22:51
Curious question as a newbie, will it end on 2359 hours on the 25th or on the 24th 2359 hrs? I was thinking of waiting for my paycheck to arrive lol.All sets are unlimited till the end of the GB
Also, will certain sets be unavailable once they reach MOQ or its unlimited till the end of the GB?
I haven't thought about your first question tbh....I guess different vendors will conclude the GB randomly on the 25th...
Post by: NeroGrave on Tue, 01 October 2019, 06:34:23
All sets are unlimited till the end of the GB
I haven't thought about your first question tbh....I guess different vendors will conclude the GB randomly on the 25th...
Ahh, thx for the reply, means I have time till my payday ;D
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:48:12
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102693.0
Please move to the GB thread if you still have any question or suggestions.
I'm locking this thread.
Thank you everyone for the support and suggestions!