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Title: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Tue, 20 September 2016, 01:22:07
Here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002MJMXD4/) is an amazon link. Those $4 Blue ones were ****. This thing has a silicon tip and creates a seal that will pick up huge globs of solder. The replacement tips are hard to come by, only being able to find them here (https://www.adafruit.com/products/2476). Same place that sells those RPis.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: jaffers on Tue, 20 September 2016, 01:23:21
Can confirm, very good solder sucker
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 20 September 2016, 01:56:50
I desoldered 5 boards last week using one of these little guys, really effective but the spring is really heavy.

Thanks for the link to replacement tips. Lifesaver.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Tue, 20 September 2016, 02:00:54
I desoldered 5 boards last week using one of these little guys, really effective but the spring is really heavy.

Thanks for the link to replacement tips. Lifesaver.

Here to help! :thumb:
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: adevriesc on Tue, 20 September 2016, 11:42:40
I had pretty good luck with an el cheapo one after I coated its interior with a light spray lubricant, so if you ain't got the cash for an expensive one that's something else to try.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: ideus on Tue, 20 September 2016, 11:54:29
How good are the soldering irons that has a pump for desoldering integrated?
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 20 September 2016, 12:05:20
How good are the soldering irons that has a pump for desoldering integrated?
Way better. A lot of people swear by their desoldering irons.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: ideus on Tue, 20 September 2016, 12:23:45
How good are the soldering irons that has a pump for desoldering integrated?
Way better. A lot of people swear by their desoldering irons.

I became discourage to try desoldering because my sucker, guess what, sucks, I will try to get one of those desoldering irons.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 20 September 2016, 12:32:15
I became discourage to try desoldering because my sucker, guess what, sucks, I will try to get one of those desoldering irons.
They come at quite the price for a good one. The one I'm buying is $300US; the Hakko FR-300.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Tue, 20 September 2016, 13:50:27
How good are the soldering irons that has a pump for desoldering integrated?
Way better. A lot of people swear by their desoldering irons.

I became discourage to try desoldering because my sucker, guess what, sucks, I will try to get one of those desoldering irons.

Which pump did you use?
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: 0100010 on Tue, 20 September 2016, 14:01:02
If my "crappy" blue solder sucker ever craps out, I will look into replacing it with this one (though my current crappy has served me very well for a long time).
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: ideus on Tue, 20 September 2016, 14:36:21
If my "crappy" blue solder sucker ever craps out, I will look into replacing it with this one (though my current crappy has served me very well for a long time).

You should be very skillful, I cannot get even one switch off of my PCBs with my crappy sucker.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: ThoughtArtist on Wed, 21 September 2016, 22:14:19
What do you all think about this portion of a review:

"Every other suck or so you need to eject what molten solder was sucked into the device. About 90 percent of the time it gets stuck inside the soft silicone-like tip. You wind up literally unclogging the device than desoldering. Now my other device was about 20% of the cost of this item and works better. It is the LyonsBlue solder sucker and can be purchased for about 5 dollars and it comes highly rated."

Nonsense or not?
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 22 September 2016, 00:10:42
What do you all think about this portion of a review:

"Every other suck or so you need to eject what molten solder was sucked into the device. About 90 percent of the time it gets stuck inside the soft silicone-like tip. You wind up literally unclogging the device than desoldering. Now my other device was about 20% of the cost of this item and works better. It is the LyonsBlue solder sucker and can be purchased for about 5 dollars and it comes highly rated."

Nonsense or not?

I would agree with most of that, and the 'LyonsBlue' model is just a rebranded $2 version from eBay. I bought 5 of them and so far, only one has broke through desoldering 6 Alps keyboards.

If anyone has desoldered an Alps keyboard they know the pain of seeing so many pins soldered in AFTER being bent flush to the PCB. That is where the silicon tip really shines and the China models are held back by the reduced suction and plastic tip.

Bottom line is that its amazing for SMD or other tricky jobs, but the spring is too heavy (fatiguing) and clogs too easily for doing entire boards. China solder suckers work alright for most tasks (Cherry boards), but I end up needing the Engineer at some point.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Thu, 22 September 2016, 01:33:10
What do you all think about this portion of a review:

"Every other suck or so you need to eject what molten solder was sucked into the device. About 90 percent of the time it gets stuck inside the soft silicone-like tip. You wind up literally unclogging the device than desoldering. Now my other device was about 20% of the cost of this item and works better. It is the LyonsBlue solder sucker and can be purchased for about 5 dollars and it comes highly rated."

Nonsense or not?

I would agree with most of that, and the 'LyonsBlue' model is just a rebranded $2 version from eBay. I bought 5 of them and so far, only one has broke through desoldering 6 Alps keyboards.

If anyone has desoldered an Alps keyboard they know the pain of seeing so many pins soldered in AFTER being bent flush to the PCB. That is where the silicon tip really shines and the China models are held back by the reduced suction and plastic tip.

Bottom line is that its amazing for SMD or other tricky jobs, but the spring is too heavy (fatiguing) and clogs too easily for doing entire boards. China solder suckers work alright for most tasks (Cherry boards), but I end up needing the Engineer at some point.


I have to admit the spring is pretty stiff... But in this situation I definitely prefer function over form. I wonder if there was a way to mod it with a lighter spring? I have a feeling that it would hinder the performance of the tool.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Ashlyn on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:09:27
Hi , is this better than AOYUE Desolder gun ?
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: ideus on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:02:57
Hi , is this better than AOYUE Desolder gun ?

Is that you in the picture?  :-*
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:11:14
Is that you in the picture?  :-*
:-*
Jesus Christ

(http://puu.sh/rnPp9/37e6481642.jpg)
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: ideus on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:23:06
 :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:43:38
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Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: ideus on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:58:35
(http://i.imgur.com/ezHPmJT.gif)
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 25 September 2016, 19:01:35
I have the same pump, it's good at sucking but do you guys find the silicon make the solder tin stuck on the way out during pumping? or it's only mine and I have to replace the silicon
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: REVENGE on Wed, 28 September 2016, 13:18:10
The build quality on this pump is really good, but in use it's probably not as convenient as an Edsyn pump.

Hi , is this better than AOYUE Desolder gun ?
Desoldering pumps are usually better, but each has its own problems. Cheap desoldering pumps can get clogged near the intake.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: RickyJ on Mon, 03 October 2016, 01:33:13
I've used a few hand pumps, and have a real Edsyn for a backup. No hand pump can come close to my Hakko 808 though, it's been such a huge boon for my repair work.  Hakko has spare parts for everything, even a complete housing is only $26usd (I broke mine).  If the exchange rate didn't suck so bad right now I would have upgraded to the new FR-300 gun, but it's literally double what I paid for my 808 a few years ago.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Mon, 03 October 2016, 02:50:48
I've used a few hand pumps, and have a real Edsyn for a backup. No hand pump can come close to my Hakko 808 though, it's been such a huge boon for my repair work.  Hakko has spare parts for everything, even a complete housing is only $26usd (I broke mine).  If the exchange rate didn't suck so bad right now I would have upgraded to the new FR-300 gun, but it's literally double what I paid for my 808 a few years ago.

If I had $265 or 1000 pounds ( :)) :p) i would buy it.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Moistgun on Mon, 03 October 2016, 07:19:34
I prefer a 25 dollar desoldering iron than a pump. Much better bang for the buck
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 03 October 2016, 07:23:12
I had looked at an Aoyue but decided on the Hakko FR-300 due to longevity. I'm still currently using a soldapult/solder sucker, but look forward to the desoldering iron for the amount of custom work I do at home.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 03 October 2016, 07:30:00
Here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002MJMXD4/) is an amazon link. Those $4 Blue ones were ****. This thing has a silicon tip and creates a seal that will pick up huge globs of solder. The replacement tips are hard to come by, only being able to find them here (https://www.adafruit.com/products/2476). Same place that sells those RPis.

Just a  few questions though, how well does the silicon tip hold up to the heat? Can you firmly place it to the soldering iron to make a seal? What has been the max temperature you have used it at?
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 03 October 2016, 07:57:06
Here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002MJMXD4/) is an amazon link. Those $4 Blue ones were ****. This thing has a silicon tip and creates a seal that will pick up huge globs of solder. The replacement tips are hard to come by, only being able to find them here (https://www.adafruit.com/products/2476). Same place that sells those RPis.

Just a  few questions though, how well does the silicon tip hold up to the heat? Can you firmly place it to the soldering iron to make a seal? What has been the max temperature you have used it at?

I've desoldered 2 or 3 full boards plus various other things here and there with the iron up to 5-600+ with absolutely no issues.  The tip does tend to get plugged from time to time but a small pin or paper clip cleans it right out.

I'm glad I spend the extra $ and got one of these myself.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Mon, 03 October 2016, 15:41:08
Here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002MJMXD4/) is an amazon link. Those $4 Blue ones were ****. This thing has a silicon tip and creates a seal that will pick up huge globs of solder. The replacement tips are hard to come by, only being able to find them here (https://www.adafruit.com/products/2476). Same place that sells those RPis.

Just a  few questions though, how well does the silicon tip hold up to the heat? Can you firmly place it to the soldering iron to make a seal? What has been the max temperature you have used it at?
Just for kicks i heald it to flame for 30 sec no issues. Soldering iron has no issues with mealting. Occasionally have to clean out the tip. Stabilzer wire works perfectly.

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Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: clickclack123 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 17:36:52
I bought an S-993A from China, it was ok for removing switches from one keyboard that I took the switches off, but now I think the hole in the tip has enlarged (you have to kind of spin the wire in the tip to get the heat to transfer after you've sucked most of the solder up - if there's not a lot of solder left holding the pin in to transfer the heat), so now it doesn't work so great. Might be ok with a new tip though.

Usually if I only need to remove one thing, I can't be bothered to plug it in and set it up. Tbh I'd almost forgotten that I bought it, with all the Chinese crap lying around my place!

I was hoping it'd be better, but it's not terrible...
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: RickyJ on Mon, 03 October 2016, 23:35:11
I had looked at an Aoyue but decided on the Hakko FR-300 due to longevity. I'm still currently using a soldapult/solder sucker, but look forward to the desoldering iron for the amount of custom work I do at home.

Prepare yourself, you're going to question your previous life choices.  The Aoyue can take it's base unit and fly out the window, you made the better call and you're going to wonder how you went so long without it. Don't dwell on your past, enjoy your future.
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: PollandAkuma on Tue, 04 October 2016, 18:37:02
Kind of unrelated, but using a desoldering braid is fine too right?
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: captsis on Tue, 04 October 2016, 19:07:16
Kind of unrelated, but using a desoldering braid is fine too right?
Doesn't work well for through hole components.


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Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: turkey on Thu, 26 December 2019, 11:14:05
How about this (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vacuum-Pick-Up-Sucking-Suction-Pen-Remover-Tool-IC-Sucker-Solder-Desoldering-TY/264428179758?hash=item3d9125d12e:g:adAAAOSwojdbTV00) kind of device, advertised as a desoldering pump, but shown to be used with rubber suction pads to hold on to tiny ICs (presumably for soldering and such)? Would they work for true desoldering, i. e., without the rubber suction pads attached, or would that just be a waste of time?

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— turkey
Title: Re: The best solder sucker/desoldering pump I've ever used
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 26 December 2019, 11:54:18
How about this (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vacuum-Pick-Up-Sucking-Suction-Pen-Remover-Tool-IC-Sucker-Solder-Desoldering-TY/264428179758?hash=item3d9125d12e:g:adAAAOSwojdbTV00) kind of device, advertised as a desoldering pump, but shown to be used with rubber suction pads to hold on to tiny ICs (presumably for soldering and such)? Would they work for true desoldering, i. e., without the rubber suction pads attached, or would that just be a waste of time?

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— turkey

Wow, this is deep cut necro! I guess at least it's an informative one, LOL! I think it would be just be a waste of time & money to try to use that thing especially without the rubber pad. As far as I can tell it's made to just hold SMD components while being soldered/desoldered, not actually suck solder. If you tried to, with or without the rubber pad, I think it would just end up clogging & probably permanently considering the tip is metal. IME the best cheap desoldering solution is a combo of a cheap desoldering iron like this, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00068IJSG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00068IJSG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1), flux, & solder wick.