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Model F spacebar stabilizers - interference ?
« on: Fri, 24 October 2014, 19:15:00 »
Anyone ever encountered interference from the plastic inserts for the spacebar in the Model F barrel plate, that interferes with the C key and the Comma key?  Meaning, when you depress the key, before the key bottoms out, the bottom edge of the keys hit the top of those inserts?

I am re-assembling my 4704 107, and encountering this.  I'm about to grab the original key set to look at those two keys, see if they appear any different.

Before I break out a file or dremel to relieve a little off the bottom of the keys - figured I would ask if others have seen this.
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Re: Model F spacebar stabilizers - interference ?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 24 October 2014, 19:39:30 »
Did you take them out to sand and paint, them put them back?

If so, make sure that they are fully re-seated.
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Re: Model F spacebar stabilizers - interference ?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 24 October 2014, 19:55:10 »
They were removed, and the plate sandblasted and powder coated (along with the case) and reinstalled.  They are fully seated - but I suppose they could be sitting higher due to the powder coat.

I supposed I could shave the tops of them down a bit.  I need to disassemble the thing anyway - I have one key that is not buckling, and manually bending the spring the correct direction with an allen wrench is not helping like it did with a couple of the others that had that issue until I did this.
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Re: Model F spacebar stabilizers - interference ?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 24 October 2014, 21:03:10 »
Fixed!

Shaved off a bit on both the top of the inserts, and a little under the C and Comma keys.  Now both of those keys fully depress without contacting.

Also was able to replace the spring on the on key that wouldn't buckle - using your chopstick method.  Must have tried 30 times until it finally 'clicked' (no pun intended).

Now just waiting for one of xwhatsit's controllers to arrive...
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Re: Model F spacebar stabilizers - interference ?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 24 October 2014, 21:31:48 »
Quote from: 0100010 on Fri, 24 October 2014, 21:03:10
using your chopstick method.

Not my chopstick method - I have never even tried it.

I do, however, want to get that pop rivet setup, that seems a lot cleaner.
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