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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #900 on: Fri, 12 April 2013, 22:51:45 »
one last thing...what's the difference between the Universal ANSI plate and the Poker Plate?

if i want a standard poker layout...i should get a poker plate correct

(herp derp question)

As far as I understand, the universal will allow the poker layout PLUS other options should you so desire.  But if you know that you want a poker layout and are never going to change that, you might as well get the poker plate.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #901 on: Fri, 12 April 2013, 23:48:06 »
How do i know if i did my order right?

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« Reply #902 on: Fri, 12 April 2013, 23:55:45 »
How do i know if i did my order right?
can PM the organizers...  :D

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #903 on: Sat, 13 April 2013, 04:36:32 »
does the gh60 come with a dipswitch? because i'm thinking of getting one but im going to use it on a mac.
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« Reply #904 on: Sat, 13 April 2013, 06:56:43 »
Not like the ones in Poker, but I don't think mac support will be a problem.
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Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #905 on: Sat, 13 April 2013, 19:30:25 »
How do i know if i did my order right?
can PM the organizers...  :D

Which one?

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #906 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 03:47:58 »
WhiteFireDragon, jdcarpe, komar007....
basically those who run this GB....

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #907 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 05:15:59 »
I have yet to decide how much PCB units I want. I still have some days left...

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #908 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:21:43 »
Can an ANSI Poker be converted to ISO without having to buy new Cherry stabilizers?
I think the Return key might still work when the stabilizer is mounted 90º, but what about the shift keys?

Also, what if you want to add to your order, is that an "order change" or a new order under the same forum name?
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #909 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:27:04 »
Can an ANSI Poker be converted to ISO without having to buy new Cherry stabilizers?
I think the Return key might still work when the stabilizer is mounted 90º, but what about the shift keys?

Also, what if you want to add to your order, is that an "order change" or a new order under the same forum name?
Left shift doesn't have any stabilizers in ISO layout and right shift is the same I think.
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« Reply #910 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:48:44 »
Also, what if you want to add to your order, is that an "order change" or a new order under the same forum name?

Yes, please submit an order change. Thanks! :)
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #911 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:34:41 »
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #912 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:40:54 »
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #913 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:49:39 »
Nice!

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #914 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:50:27 »
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.

Awesome! MX Blue will be fine, thanks. I got 65 of them in the order, I believe.

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« Reply #915 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:54:32 »
Nice! 11 or so cents cheaper than 7bits. I'll change my order for some greens

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #916 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:56:45 »
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.
So should we re-add switches to our orders?

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« Reply #917 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:58:38 »
Yes, please go ahead at this time with any switch orders. :D

We need the volume to get those prices. ;)
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« Reply #918 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:00:30 »
Please add 60 MX Green to my order. Thanks.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #919 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:05:16 »
By the way, does anyone have a spare poker sized case lying around? I'm not confident I'll be able to afford one of those fancy aluminum cases by the time they hit GB phase  :p

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« Reply #920 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:05:34 »
Please add 60 MX Green to my order. Thanks.

Done. Everyone please use the order change form if you want to add switches back to your order. ORDER CHANGES
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #921 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:10:12 »
Well ****.

That's cheaper than what I'm getting. Might have to see how this plays out.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #922 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:28:45 »
Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.

Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??

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« Reply #923 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:30:36 »
Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??

Grey is Grey, and never Dark Grey. Tactile only. :D
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #924 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:31:01 »
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.

X( I want MX whites

Should I order from 7bit? And send them to you? Tell him to send to you? What do? Fug I hate when the plans change :( 

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« Reply #925 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:31:16 »
Please add 60 MX Green to my order. Thanks.

Done. Everyone please use the order change form if you want to add switches back to your order. ORDER CHANGES

If we already had switches listed we don't need to change anything, right?

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« Reply #926 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:34:37 »
If you already had switches in your order, we will fill them.

If you have MX White or MX Clear in your order, we will fill those by ordering from 7bit. Or you can choose to order them from 7bit yourself, and have them sent to us, using the tag "GH60." See his thread on Deskthority here.
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Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #927 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:35:08 »
Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??

Grey is Grey, and never Dark Grey. Tactile only. :D

True, but I've seen people using it wrong before (not you). I wanted to clarify so people knew they could do ergo clears by using mx gray instead.

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« Reply #928 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:36:50 »
Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??

Grey is Grey, and never Dark Grey. Tactile only. :D

True, but I've seen people using it wrong before (not you). I wanted to clarify so people knew they could do ergo clears by using mx gray instead.

Good point, and thanks for bringing that up. The MX Grey stem is identical to the MX Clear stem, so if you were planning on making Ergo Clears using MX Clear stems with light springs, you can do the same using MX Greys.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #929 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:38:12 »
If you already had switches in your order, we will fill them.

If you have MX White or MX Clear in your order, we will fill those by ordering from 7bit. Or you can choose to order them from 7bit yourself, and have them sent to us, using the tag "GH60." See his thread on Deskthority here.

So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

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« Reply #930 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:40:02 »
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #931 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:44:54 »
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?

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« Reply #932 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:47:56 »
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?

It will make a difference if you are able to order in his "pre-order" batch, instead of waiting until the end of the GH60 GB. If you don't get your order in the pre-order batch, you might be waiting some months after the GH60s arrive for your switches to arrive.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #933 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:55:43 »
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?

It will make a difference if you are able to order in his "pre-order" batch, instead of waiting until the end of the GH60 GB. If you don't get your order in the pre-order batch, you might be waiting some months after the GH60s arrive for your switches to arrive.

:0 looks like I'm going for the pre-order batch. When I get em, can I send em to you to hold onto for the gh60? 

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« Reply #934 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:56:59 »
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?

It will make a difference if you are able to order in his "pre-order" batch, instead of waiting until the end of the GH60 GB. If you don't get your order in the pre-order batch, you might be waiting some months after the GH60s arrive for your switches to arrive.

:0 looks like I'm going for the pre-order batch. When I get em, can I send em to you to hold onto for the gh60? 

Instead of your address, put "GH60" in the order PM to his script.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #935 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:00:50 »
:) ok

Gotta talk to you tonigh about some other things too, I'm jug at work right now and in my phone :/

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #936 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:06:13 »
How much do MX Clears cost for each switch in this GB? Also what size is the spacebar on the HHKB layout?
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« Reply #937 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:10:21 »
How much do MX Clears cost for each switch in this GB?

If you order them yourself, directly from 7bit on Deskthority, they are currently at a pre-order price of 0.54 EUR, or $0.71/ea. If you order them from this GB, and we aren't able to get them from 7bit at pre-order prices, they will be 0.65 EUR, or $0.86/ea. Either way, you can have them sent to the GH60 organizers for assembly.

Our other supplier cannot provide MX Clears or MX Whites.
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« Reply #938 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:24:34 »
If you're desperate for clear switches, I'll probably be getting some that are desoldered from keyboards. They're not directly offered in this GB because they're not brand new. Brand new ones still need to be directly from 7bit unless we can find some.

I really wish we could have gotten some white switches. Those are the only ones I really wanted too :/

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #939 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:47:36 »
If you're desperate for clear switches, I'll probably be getting some that are desoldered from keyboards. They're not directly offered in this GB because they're not brand new. Brand new ones still need to be directly from 7bit unless we can find some.

I really wish we could have gotten some white switches. Those are the only ones I really wanted too :/

I'm getting 2 gh60s (hopefully)

Main one will have whites, and the second one will have greens.

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« Reply #940 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:59:22 »
I gave in and added switches and a plate to my order through the change form.  If someone gets a chance, could they PM me with my full order and the estimated grand total post-change.  Thanks!

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« Reply #941 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:19:45 »
Oh and sorry to ask so many questions but for the HHKB layout, where do I get the top plate?

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« Reply #942 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:28:55 »
I've been searching and if people want to, there are White switches (Plate mounted) on Conrad-uk.com for £0.36 ($0.55) per switch when ordering over 500, with free delivery (because it's over £67).

I have no idea how much postage would be for an individual to then split the order up and resend out to other people, but it may be worth looking into.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #943 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:47:39 »
What kind of volume do we need for switches (Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Gray) to be priced @ $0.60/ea?
Oh and will they be offered in PCB, Plate mount, or both?

PS - For anyone wanting ergo clears, you can buy gray switches instead. The stems are identical.

^ light grey  ;)

Yes, gray switches are a lighter gray, but their names are mx gray and mx dark gray. Dark gray will also not be offered :)
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« Reply #944 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:51:23 »
^ light grey  ;)

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #945 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:03:59 »
I already have all the plate designs worked out after this post, so here's what is happening:

All plates with 1.5x modifier spacing will have additional cutouts for a 10x (also 8x and 9x) spacebar. Meaning it's compatible with both 7x - 10x spacebars. There is also a "universal" plate that supports every layout except ones with inner 1.25x modifiers. It's basically the same exact one as this post but with cuttouts for 7x spacebar, which is almost identical to the one jdcarpe just posted. This will probably be special made one since I don't imagine will get high quantity orders. I tried to integrate this with the current universal plate, but the overlaps make this impossible.

The replica HHKB layout with 6x offset spacebar can just use the current univeral plate design, it's perfectly compatible.

I'll post a pic this new plate and updated plates when I get home. I already sent the universal plate design for prototype.

Maybe it is just me, but I don't think all of the spacebars listed will work.  I agree that they will all fit on the plate, but I think there will be odd gaps with most of them.  I hope I am wrong, but I think only the following spacebars will work:

6.25x (1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25)
7x (1.5x - 1x - 1.5x - 7x - 1.5x - 1x - 1.5x)
10x (1.5x - 1x - 10x - 1x - 1.5x)

Here is the best representation of the available key size combinations on the GH60 I could derive from available information in all of the threads:

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GH60 Spacebar/mod position availability in Rev. B

The black shows the standard ANSI 7 * 1.25 mods with a 6.25 spacebar.  The green shows the Cherry standard 7.00 spacebar with 1.50 modifiers and 1.00 modifiers or filler plates.  They both work normally.

By adding the additional stabilizer mounts outside of those for the 7x spacebar, a long list of spacebars will fit on the plate, but only the 10x, shown in dark red, fits without a gap to a 1.00 / 1.50 pair on each end.

However, the 8x shown in pink and the 9x shown in blue leave gaps between the keycaps.  The 9x could work if a pair of 1.50 keycaps could be mounted on each end, but I believe the second-to-right position can only be 1.00 or 1.25.

So, as is, the GH60 supports 6.25, 7x and 10x spacebars.  If a pair of 1.50 keycaps can be mounted on each end, then additionally a 9x spacebar could work.
(1.5x - 1.5x - 9x - 1.5x - 1.5x)

This matters because SP does not have 10x molds in all profiles, but they do have 8x and 9x molds, at least one of which we hope to include with Retro Green and Retro Blue.

Please jdcarpe et al, tell me that I am wrong, and that 8x and/or 9x can be used in some configuration.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #946 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:22:59 »
Unfortunately (lol) you are correct Ron. A spacebar size 6x through 10x will physically fit and can mount, but I don't think there are switch supports for proper spacing if you use 8x and 9x spacebar sizes.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #947 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:39:50 »
Unfortunately (lol) you are correct Ron. A spacebar size 6x through 10x will physically fit and can mount, but I don't think there are switch supports for proper spacing if you use 8x and 9x spacebar sizes.

Hmm.  Sad.

If we went old-school, we could do 1.5 - 1.5(step L) - 9 - 1.5(step R) - 1.5.  That would require 1.5 - 1 - (.5 gap) - 9 - (.5 gap) - 1 - 1.5 spacing.  SP has molds for that.

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'85 IBM F-122/Soarer Keyboard |  Leopold FC200 TKL (Browns) + GH36 Keypad (Browns/Greens) | GH-122 (Whites/Greens) with Nuclear Data Green keycaps in a Unicomp case

Offline Loligagger

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #948 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:42:55 »
If you're desperate for clear switches, I'll probably be getting some that are desoldered from keyboards. They're not directly offered in this GB because they're not brand new. Brand new ones still need to be directly from 7bit unless we can find some.

I really wish we could have gotten some white switches. Those are the only ones I really wanted too :/

I could trade 61 mx whites for clears if you want.

Offline Jocelyn

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Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #949 on: Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:51:00 »
I could trade 61 mx whites for clears if you want.

Do you have a second batch of 61 whites? I'll trade you clear stems/springs if so :)
« Last Edit: Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:54:47 by Jocelyn »