:thumb: ...but please don't launch the gb for the sets all at once. ;D
Third will be PBT hopefully
For midnight I was thinking standard DCS actually... but it's not set on stone yet.
LOL
You know I'm the DSA man :) Macross is DSA already. I'm not sure about this just yet. Please file your preference!
LOL
You know I'm the DSA man :) Macross is DSA already. I'm not sure about this just yet. Please file your preference!
Okay then you asked for this SA Profile PLEASE....
Really loving the low contrast mods on the first mockup. Escape key might look nice with the yellow legend, like the enter and arrow keys.
Really loving the low contrast mods on the first mockup. Escape key might look nice with the yellow legend, like the enter and arrow keys.
option for a blank set?
Cherry legends?
Really loving the low contrast mods on the first mockup. Escape key might look nice with the yellow legend, like the enter and arrow keys.
:thumb: ...but please don't launch the gb for the sets all at once. ;D
The Macross one is the first. This one's second. Third will be PBT hopefully
All the sets... I'm sure I'm missing something (besides the blanks)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PKnyMNB.png)
I wanted to do that DCS, yes, but people seem to prefer SA profile actually. Keep voting.
DCS for this
DSA for Macross
SA for X-Wing
this is like a hybrid of Cheap TKL set and Calm Depths set...but i love this colour scheme better!
this is like a hybrid of Cheap TKL set and Calm Depths set...but i love this colour scheme better!
Oh damn, this dude needs a vicious kicking - how could you say this is a "Cheap TKL Set" (unless Matt3o is making it for $20USD each) ::) ?
We need a Black and Green-like colour-way because we don't have that Group Buy running here for everyone. Knowing Matt3o he will furnish some more icon's to please the super-fanatics here, so don't worry about that.
I like it, especially when it BECOMES officially, an SA-Profile beauty ;) .
this is like a hybrid of Cheap TKL set and Calm Depths set...but i love this colour scheme better!
Oh damn, this dude needs a vicious kicking - how could you say this is a "Cheap TKL Set" (unless Matt3o is making it for $20USD each) ::) ?
We need a Black and Green-like colour-way because we don't have that Group Buy running here for everyone. Knowing Matt3o he will furnish some more icon's to please the super-fanatics here, so don't worry about that.
I like it, especially when it BECOMES officially, an SA-Profile beauty ;) .
I don't think he means to describe Matt3o's set as "cheap" (in the pejorative sense)... he's referring to this set, no?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50845.0
Anyway, yeah, the icons are awesome. The moon and stars icon especially! I think this would look lovely in either SA or DCS. I just hope I have the cash on hand if this happens... though that isn't likely :'(
this is like a hybrid of Cheap TKL set and Calm Depths set...but i love this colour scheme better!
Oh damn, this dude needs a vicious kicking - how could you say this is a "Cheap TKL Set" (unless Matt3o is making it for $20USD each) ::) ?
We need a Black and Green-like colour-way because we don't have that Group Buy running here for everyone. Knowing Matt3o he will furnish some more icon's to please the super-fanatics here, so don't worry about that.
I like it, especially when it BECOMES officially, an SA-Profile beauty ;) .
well elrick, the name of the set is "Cheap TKL 100key" going at $60.27, not $20.00.
thanks akikun, for knowing what i was saying instead of giving me vicious kicking :))
Would be interesting to see this set with an option for ctrl alt shift keys with RGB color legend.
well elrick, the name of the set is "Cheap TKL 100key" going at $60.27, not $20.00.
thanks akikun, for knowing what i was saying instead of giving me vicious kicking :))
Justnits, no one was going to give you any kicking, figure of speech, that's all. You know what it's like here, friendly banter and polite discussions ::) .
Would be interesting to see this set with an option for ctrl alt shift keys with RGB color legend. The light green seems very similar to the color of mint gum CC, which makes it a perfect combo with my mint gum CC. Vote for DCS.
well elrick, the name of the set is "Cheap TKL 100key" going at $60.27, not $20.00.
thanks akikun, for knowing what i was saying instead of giving me vicious kicking :))
Justnits, no one was going to give you any kicking, figure of speech, that's all. You know what it's like here, friendly banter and polite discussions ::) .
yeah i've seen many of that here...hehe! but i've seen many going to the boarder line and beyond also...but no worries, i'm relatively new here and still trying to learn and get along with the community ;D :thumb: cheers mate!Would be interesting to see this set with an option for ctrl alt shift keys with RGB color legend.
You may have something there, having an RGB set "TEXT" colour perhaps, to offer something subtle rather than an all out RGB.......?
Would be interesting to see this set with an option for ctrl alt shift keys with RGB color legend.
You may have something there, having an RGB set "TEXT" colour perhaps, to offer something subtle rather than an all out RGB.......?
At this point I don't know if this should see the light, at least until boost GB is completed.
Okay guys.
I totally missed the "Cheap TKL" set.
I don't understand why Boost didn't tell me about it since 1) the color combo was originally proposed by me, 2) his GB is currently on going.
I really haven't seen the boost GB (there are too many around). I don't want to collide with his set, I'm glad the midnight set is coming to life, it would have been nice if he contacted me about it so we could have discussed about some more options (the original midnight was just a draft).
At this point I don't know if this should see the light, at least until boost GB is completed.
Would be interesting to see this set with an option for ctrl alt shift keys with RGB color legend. The light green seems very similar to the color of mint gum CC, which makes it a perfect combo with my mint gum CC. Vote for DCS.well elrick, the name of the set is "Cheap TKL 100key" going at $60.27, not $20.00.
thanks akikun, for knowing what i was saying instead of giving me vicious kicking :))
Justnits, no one was going to give you any kicking, figure of speech, that's all. You know what it's like here, friendly banter and polite discussions ::) .
yeah i've seen many of that here...hehe! but i've seen many going to the boarder line and beyond also...but no worries, i'm relatively new here and still trying to learn and get along with the community ;D :thumb: cheers mate!Would be interesting to see this set with an option for ctrl alt shift keys with RGB color legend.
You may have something there, having an RGB set "TEXT" colour perhaps, to offer something subtle rather than an all out RGB.......?
totally agree with the RGB legend!
I want this GB to happen. Maybe it will be just procrastinated a bit. Let's see if boost chimes in.
Anyway this is the RGB versionShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Txw4JV6.png)
I'm not a huge fan of multicolored legends but if there's interest for such a thing we could add an RGB kit.
I'd say stem is on the left, anyway I believe only DCS has center stem stepped key. So if we go DCS and there's enough interest we could add both versions
I want this GB to happen. Maybe it will be just procrastinated a bit. Let's see if boost chimes in.
Anyway this is the RGB versionShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Txw4JV6.png)
I'm not a huge fan of multicolored legends but if there's interest for such a thing we could add an RGB kit.
I'd say stem is on the left, anyway I believe only DCS has center stem stepped key. So if we go DCS and there's enough interest we could add both versions
just throwing a suggestion for the custom keys.
what do you think of having one key with just the moon, and other key having a few stars, another a leafless tree, or an owl?
I want this GB to happen. Maybe it will be just procrastinated a bit. Let's see if boost chimes in.
Anyway this is the RGB versionShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Txw4JV6.png)
I'm not a huge fan of multicolored legends but if there's interest for such a thing we could add an RGB kit.
Now this is what it all should like, nice and conservative, without looking like some kind of feminine product on the shelf at your local pharmacy (like most colour-ways are starting to appear).
Make it masculine as possible without being too "Village People" like, if you know what I mean :thumb: .
I will include standard keys (no-graphics) if that is what you mean. Apart from adding some pornography I don't know how to make it more masculine.
I want this GB to happen. Maybe it will be just procrastinated a bit. Let's see if boost chimes in.
Anyway this is the RGB versionShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Txw4JV6.png)
I'm not a huge fan of multicolored legends but if there's interest for such a thing we could add an RGB kit.
You'll never see a "WIN" key in any of my GBs (it will read "super"). Apart from that icon keys will be optional of course.
SA = x-wing, DSA = macross, DCS = midnight. I think this is pretty fair, but so far it seems people prefer SA over DCS, so it may still happen :)
Amazing how SP pushes it's DCS rubbish yet GMK's Cherry version is still so highly desired here on Geekhack, you have to simply ask yourself - why is that?
Now. As I said, if people is ok with SA, SA it is, even though admittedly we had a lot of SA lately.
Now. As I said, if people is ok with SA, SA it is, even though admittedly we had a lot of SA lately.
Now. As I said, if people is ok with SA, SA it is, even though admittedly we had a lot of SA lately.
Can someone link me to an explanation of these SA DCS DSA stuff? Sorry, keycap noob here.
In the first post you said that the third one will be PBT? So will the first two GB be ABS?
I really like the look of this. As far as profile goes, i would presonally prefer DCS. I appreciate the 1.25 Caps Lock. Even among sets that include a properly sized control key, few of them include the matching Caps Lock.
if you got to do something... you got to do it well! :)
First choice: Option 1, DSA
Second choice: Option 1, SA
Beautiful set!
Actually YCA (Glow-in-the-dark) might actually be quite cool for this set, or maybe atleast some novelty options.
Actually YCA (Glow-in-the-dark) might actually be quite cool for this set, or maybe atleast some novelty options.
there's already a glow in the dark optionShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/PKnyMNB.png)
Actually YCA (Glow-in-the-dark) might actually be quite cool for this set, or maybe atleast some novelty options.
there's already a glow in the dark optionShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/PKnyMNB.png)
Out of yours ICs I really like this idea, Matt3o. But I'm not very sure about the color choices. Do you have the color chips from SP? I could take some photos of the color chips all together if you still in need (YBP, VCO, GB, GEW?) ^^
The mock up looks really good.
Are you ditching the RGB mods a few pages back ? :blank:
Out of yours ICs I really like this idea, Matt3o. But I'm not very sure about the color choices. Do you have the color chips from SP? I could take some photos of the color chips all together if you still in need (YBP, VCO, GB, GEW?) ^^
PLEASE DO! Yes, YBP, VCO, GB, GEW. My only concern is about GB+GEW that seem very close.The mock up looks really good.
Are you ditching the RGB mods a few pages back ? :blank:
RGB mods are still in.
It seems SA is the most wanted.
DCS for this please ^
initially this should have been DCS but I agree that SP DCS is a bit boring
not defined yet. still collecting suggestions.
It seems SA is the most wanted.
thanks!
they actually look very well together!
Can you take a picture overlapping GEW+GB+VCO?
thanks!
they actually look very well together!
Can you take a picture overlapping GEW+GB+VCO?
Sure matt, maybe tomorrow i'll take the picture :D
Really beautiful
Totally agree...... just waiting for Matt3o's final decision on whether his baby goes DSA or SA prime :thumb: .
Can I suggest adding 4 additional caps for people with separate numpads?
Like an Esc-row;
Esc, Tab, Backspace, and a random key with the logo of the set.
Even blanks is fine.
Such as in Goldtouch (http://www.goldtouch.com/p-7-goldtouch-pc-usb-numeric-keypad-black.aspx) or Leopold (http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/list.php&ca_id=101003).
Please review carefully and report any errorShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/UeI0fcl.png)
thanks!
Totally agree...... just waiting for Matt3o's final decision on whether his baby goes DSA or SA prime :thumb: .
Why not both? :)
wondering if I should separate the two set of mods (dark and twilight). But probably it's just fine like this.Totally agree...... just waiting for Matt3o's final decision on whether his baby goes DSA or SA prime :thumb: .
Why not both? :)
Don't you think this will split up interest too much?
I'd totally love to have this in Cherry legends, but it depends on cost. Is the cherry set complete? I had the impression it was not 100% ready yet.
Regarding ETA, this will hopefully start at the beginning of Feb (sorry guys but it doesn't depend on me) and will be a super fast GB (3 weeks to order).
Voted for SA, simply because it's the heaviest compilation of beautiful plastic to ever be seen out of SP's moulds.
Always buy the most plastic because it will last forever on your keyboards, in fact the average Filco keyboard would fall apart before any wear is shown on an SA profile :thumb: .
I'd totally love to have this in Cherry legends, but it depends on cost. Is the cherry set complete? I had the impression it was not 100% ready yet.
Regarding ETA, this will hopefully start at the beginning of Feb (sorry guys but it doesn't depend on me) and will be a super fast GB (3 weeks to order).
Wow...a..poll...what the heck :eek:
Wow...a..poll...what the heck :eek:
did I do something wrong? :-[
oh okay.
the problem is that it is completely inconclusive since SA and DCS are basically tied.
let's run one at a time.
Lovely looking set MattO - the only thing I'd suggest is considering regular case text on the modifiers rather than all caps.
I think all caps worked on the retro set but less so on this in my opinion.
Great color scheme.
[)amien
Thanks. I voted DCS. I don't really feel this set fits with the DSA profile but I am fine with any of these.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yYDiWHg.jpg)
From left to right
SA, DCS, DSA
it seems we won't have a clear winner.
We have two third of the people voting spherical. And another 60% for the tall one.it seems we won't have a clear winner.
Go with your gut.
If your gut says SA.
Otherwise go with my gut, which says SA.
There you go, the midnight set in all its gloryGore juice...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/D7QKrWu.png)
I've added the 1U mods in the mod kits and changed again the ESC color. I'm not yet set about it.
Anyway it should be it. As far as I can tell, this will be an SA profile set, unless we get an horde of DCS lovers in these last few days...
I double checked the votes. There's a good dose of evidently fake users created just to cast a vote on this IC.
you guys are sick.
these are exactly the things that turn me down.
I'll evaluate the situation and decide how to precede
There are at the very least 6 fake votes for DCS.The levels people stoop to...
There are at the very least 6 fake votes for DCS.
There are at the very least 6 fake votes for DCS.
There are at the very least 6 fake votes for DCS.
That's how it's like with DCS lovers, they cheat to death on everything in their lives ::) . If the DCS numbers sway you Matt3o, then I would like to see how many front up with the payments.......
I sure hope this GB goes through, whether it's DCS, DSA or SA because the colours, graphics and layout are too good to ignore (but DCS is a non starter for me personally :( ).
Honestly imo it would looks better on dcs than SA profile.
Honestly imo it would looks better on dcs than SA profile.
Have you got both profiles in front of you this very minute?
The spherical matches perfectly with every graphic that Matt3o has designed for this key-set and the SA profile is heavy duty. The DCS is common junk available everywhere and the thin plastic ABS walls lends itself to damage quite easily (at least when I use it).
The SA is for heavy duty use and that is why the profile wins hands over the DCS thin-walled rubbish. Besides I've got dozens of DCS's sitting in boxes from various Group Buys, over the years, and only have one SA profile currently in use. I love the SA profile. Once you have it installed into your Cherry board and/or Filco you will soon realize that this profile is the clear winner.
Don't rely on some newly appointed-noob perception on what an SA is 'possibly' like, you need to own it and use it before you start sprouting rubbish about your so-called opinions here on Geekhack. Everyone seems to run in a pack looking for popularity but life isn't like that. Find out for yourself before blindly following some moron's recommendation with what an SA profile might look/feel like, because the photos do not do justice to this amazing profile.
Know what an SA profile feels like before condemning anything and the only way you would know is when it's sitting in front of you this very minute. Don't comment about anything unless you have it. Otherwise it's just imagination, and that's better left for bed time or a fresh spliff ;) .
Easiest way to settle this though, why not have a groupbuy for SA set and DCS set together, like how Bunny is doing it for his groupbuy?
https://ctrlaltgroupbuy.com/buys/hyper-fuse-dcsEasiest way to settle this though, why not have a groupbuy for SA set and DCS set together, like how Bunny is doing it for his groupbuy?
link?
I'd prefer to run 2 GBs at at least 1 month distance.
will the RGB mods also include 1.5x CTRL and ALT?
I prefer DSA over DCS, but since I have an MX clear board, it'd be hell to own a DSA keyset, I have already broken a few stems on the keycaps, oh and you mentioned don't rely on newly-appointed noobs, but what you're doing right now is no different than them isn't it?
Let them vote what they want, I know that you know which profile is good and perfect, but it's their money.
thanks LechnerDE, the poll is just to get an idea of people preference. Considering that there are 6-10 fake DCS votes, DCS and DSA are basically tied.
@Elrick
don't be so extremist :) DCS has its value. The problem is SP quality that is definitely higher on SA than it is on DCS.
Is DCS SP different with filco? :)
I was just kidding, I can't ignore the poll. Also we had a lot of SA lately, I'm more than happy to start with DCS profile and do a SA version later.
I'll post an updated DCS screenshot later, with lower case letters. It's very nice actually.
DSA would be insta-buy for me. Never tried SA though. Are they Filco/OEM height? If so that wouldnt be that bad.
I'd like to make this SA just because of the fake DCS votes. Anyway worry not, if the first round is successful we will have both profiles anyway
lowercase DCS layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Am1TjBY.png)
lowercase DCS layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Am1TjBY.png)
This has been sent to SP for review.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/juV4Y6A.png)
That set looks sharp! I'm looking forward to the SA run :D .
That set looks sharp! I'm looking forward to the SA run :D .
Same here, just waiting for the SA run as well :thumb: . Could also go for the DSA if he chooses it.
You've come up with some fantastic sets, Matt3o.
I want them all.
That set looks sharp! I'm looking forward to the SA run :D .
Same here, just waiting for the SA run as well :thumb: . Could also go for the DSA if he chooses it.
Take the macross set now, and wait for SA in a month or so :)
Macross set is DSA http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52615.0
Wow! Can't believe Midnight attracts me so much!
Wow! Can't believe Midnight attracts me so much!
It does look really good. I just wish it was going to be DSA. By the votes most people want it either DCS or SA.
Wow! Can't believe Midnight attracts me so much!
By the votes most people want it either DCS or SA.
Wow! Can't believe Midnight attracts me so much!
By the votes most people want it either DCS or SA.
If this went SA I would be all over this in a heartbeat. Purchase 4 complete sets plus any extras to start with :thumb: . But it looks like a no go for the greatest profile ever created :'( .
Great matt :thumb:g ada habisnya ui :rolleyes:
Great matt :thumb:g ada habisnya ui :rolleyes:
I've got pricing. Everything is in line with recent GBs.
It seems this and the macross set might start really soon. I'll keep you posted!
ATM all stepped keys have stem on the left but we can change that.
it doesn't impact on pricing I guess. what do you guys prefer?
ATM all stepped keys have stem on the left but we can change that.
it doesn't impact on pricing I guess. what do you guys prefer?
Since this is from SA, I assume these are going to be ABS?
No chance on these going Cherry profile either right? :-X
get ready... tomorrow might be the day :)
get ready... tomorrow might be the day :)
oh c'mon, if everything goes as planned you'll be able to grab the SA flavor soon :p
plus you've got funds for Macross!
great news guys! This is gonna be Cherry Font :D
It might take another day or so to update the legends.
great news guys! This is gonna be Cherry Font :D
It might take another day or so to update the legends.
great news guys! This is gonna be Cherry Font :D
It might take another day or so to update the legends.
Yeahh :thumb:
anyway the GB will go through SP website right ?
not using Google Doc anymore :))
I believe so. Looks like Matt3o is trying to get some bugs resolved with the orders/templates put into SP's GB system before things go live... but that's just my guess.
great news guys! This is gonna be Cherry Font :D
It might take another day or so to update the legends.
great news guys! This is gonna be Cherry Font :D
It might take another day or so to update the legends.
Awesome!
Kinda offtopic, but why are you the leader of this thing:
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/cheap-tkl-100key-set/
Wasn't this Boost's GB? And why is the DSA Retro GB listed there?
I'm preparing a new mockup with cherry legends
Cherry legendsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/66dgpwC.png)
Cherry legendsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/66dgpwC.png)
Cherry legendsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/66dgpwC.png)
This will probably be done in SA later, with big centered legends. Don't know about DSA.
This will probably be done in SA later, with big centered legends. Don't know about DSA.
Please change that word "probably" to "DEFINITELY done in SA later" and then we'll know it's serious.
let's hope SP can fix this damned server first...
they use standard USPS shipping I guess, you can make an educated guess from their website
let's hope SP can fix this damned server first...
let's hope SP can fix this damned server first...
Dear Sir, do you think it's best to go back to how it was all done before?
I don't mind paying some poor soul to sort and mail caps to me, because I feel they would do a better job than SP. Just a subtle observation thus far doesn't bode well when dealing with SP to take and distribute everyone's orders, throughout the world.
Just have a think about it, nothing worse when they drop the ball and guess whom will get the incessant complaining?
shipping price/method from the SP's gb system is pretty much a killer for international buyer if buying in bulk :(
shipping price/method from the SP's gb system is pretty much a killer for international buyer if buying in bulk :(
shipping price/method from the SP's gb system is pretty much a killer for international buyer if buying in bulk :(
shipping price/method from the SP's gb system is pretty much a killer for international buyer if buying in bulk :(
Yeah, this really makes me think twice about joining this GB.
I mean I love the set and it was a no-brainer for me before to buy it, but these costs add up, especially since I can't combine shipping for Matt3o's 2 Group Buys that basically end at the same time. On top of that SP won't undervalue the items so I am looking at an additional ~30$ of import taxes.
I am afraid I'll have to skip these GBs and save my money for Bunnylake's upcoming GMK sets :(
Maybe we can arrange a proxy solution for international shipping? I guess most of the orders will come from the US anyway so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle.
For a comparison look at the recent RainDrop round 2, that has the same legends. The base set goes for $90, Midnight base + additional mods + additional spacebar goes for $90 as well (at 50 tier which is pretty low), but includes 9 more keys and 3 new custom legends. Nobody seems to notice, but at the end it's not that bad of a deal.
If bunny wants to take over I'm more than happy to give Midnight to him.
If bunny wants to take over I'm more than happy to give Midnight to him.
I am afraid Bunny is way to busy with his own GBs. Plus he is already helping out with the Calm Depths SA Set.
Besides that he is a vendor and if he takes over the sets will get a little more expensive for the CONUS customers and only international buyers would profit because they save on shipping and taxes.
I think the only viable solution for this situation is to make a deal with SP to allow one bulk order for an International proxy. If I understood Melissa correctly you can only order a one set basis right now.
If bunny wants to take over I'm more than happy to give Midnight to him.
I am afraid Bunny is way to busy with his own GBs. Plus he is already helping out with the Calm Depths SA Set.
Besides that he is a vendor and if he takes over the sets will get a little more expensive for the CONUS customers and only international buyers would profit because they save on shipping and taxes.
I think the only viable solution for this situation is to make a deal with SP to allow one bulk order for an International proxy. If I understood Melissa correctly you can only order a one set basis right now.
I could do that, but it is going to be expensive anyway (shipping to me + tax + shipping to you). I don't know if it is really worth
thanks BunnyLake, I'll talk with SP about this option and let you know
Thank you Bunny!
Splitting ~100$ among all international orders sound way better than direct shipping from SP.
This is hoping there are more than 5 international orders :p
I think ~20 international sets should be the MOQ here to make it worthwhile.
Cherry legendsAre the yellow arrow keys not available with the cherry font?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/66dgpwC.png)
Cherry legendsAre the yellow arrow keys not available with the cherry font?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/66dgpwC.png)
Cherry legendsAre the yellow arrow keys not available with the cherry font?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/66dgpwC.png)
dunno, just testing.
it seems more elegant this way.
Cherry legendsAre the yellow arrow keys not available with the cherry font?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/66dgpwC.png)
dunno, just testing.
it seems more elegant this way.
Iam going to hold off for the SA set. Hey Matt3o, you are still going to offer the twilight (lighter color) Mods for both the DCS and SA sets correct?
Iam going to hold off for the SA set. Hey Matt3o, you are still going to offer the twilight (lighter color) Mods for both the DCS and SA sets correct?
Are the legends translucent/meant for use with a backlit keyboard?
Hey guys just wanted to give you an updated - we have lowered the international shipping charge from $26 to $15 in hopes that this might help (though at a small cost to ourselves). We are still working out the best way to handle this and hope that you bear with us once we get a few group buys under our belts with the new system.
- Melissa
Hey guys just wanted to give you an updated - we have lowered the international shipping charge from $26 to $15 in hopes that this might help (though at a small cost to ourselves). We are still working out the best way to handle this and hope that you bear with us once we get a few group buys under our belts with the new system.
- Melissa
i was wondering, when is this starting?
i was wondering, when is this starting?
I think he's already running another 2 GB's at this very moment. Correct me if I'm wrong here........
Maybe the poor guy wants a little breathing space before opening this one as well. Maybe he wants to break BunnyLake's record for maximum Group Buys running concurrently :thumb: .
It might be too late to ask this but, for us 60% users,
is it possible to get an addon that makes the 5678 keys the lighter blue base ala the function keys?
Also, are there any alternatives to the moon/WIN key?
Also, are there any alternatives to the moon/WIN key?
I might introduce blanks
Blanks would be awesome!Yes, definitely! I was already disappointed that the Skull Squadron didn't have any blanks. :(
I got some thick high-profile caps with a very similar colorway in my crapbag which really stood out, so now I'm very excited for this one :DMind sharing what the cap looks like? Would love to get some sort of irl color depiction ^-^.
I got some thick high-profile caps with a very similar colorway in my crapbag which really stood out, so now I'm very excited for this one :D
My blood pressure just sky rocketed..Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ICAZOxU.jpg)
when I post a picture with yellow arrows, people want blue arrows. When I put the blue arrows, people want the yellow arrow back. I'll choose it for your, don't worry :P
this set will probably have Cherry legends and as such it's DCS only. Based on success I may rerun the same color combo in SA.
yes there's one more (which *I* have) :) but it's a secret
btw... Granite is all you need :D
this set will probably have Cherry legends and as such it's DCS only. Based on success I may rerun the same color combo in SA.
Soo down to buy this set in DSA. But would I be able to make it fit my FC660M?this please, us Leopold users need love too. 6 unit space bar please!
This needs to be DSA. DSA feels so good on the fingers.
when are you planning to start this buy for DCS? =)
actually I was thinking of having DCS and SA together.
The problem is that I'm afraid people would get confused
actually I was thinking of having DCS and SA together.
The problem is that I'm afraid people would get confused
I would still get it if it's only DCS profile. :thumb:
If matt does decide do offer SA profile he will still be doing DCS. It would be run in both profiles.
I'll talk with SP about this. I'll make very clear what profile you are buying and I'll try to make 3D renders of both.
The options would be: DCS with Cherry replica font, SA with standard centered font. Each one could have one or two exclusive novelty keys. Options for both would be very limited anyway (max 4 kits per profile I'd say).
The options would be: DCS with Cherry replica font, SA with standard centered font. Each one could have one or two exclusive novelty keys. Options for both would be very limited anyway (max 4 kits per profile I'd say).
Would SA be true SA profile or all row 3 like Commando or Penumbra?
any chance you will be the first(?) one to offer backspace instead of capslock for colemak?
+1 ergodox
DCS and SA are not properly ergodox friendly... but if there's interest
DCS and SA are not properly ergodox friendly... but if there's interest
DCS and SA are not properly ergodox friendly... but if there's interest
SA is definitely ergodox friendly. All alphas are the same profile. Use blanks or blanks with colored symbols to represent other keys and make those keys the same profile. Take Penumbra for example,Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hEQp2qu.jpg)
this wouldn't be all on row3 but a "proper" SA profile
ok this is getting closer to release.I am! Is it possible at all to have 2 profiles at the same time?
I'll post the final kits in the coming days. DCS is 100% sure, if you are also interested in SA speak up your mind now!
Very very interested for SA for ergodox
so... translucent legends you say... you mean something like cyan polycarbonate? Interesting...
so... translucent legends you say... you mean something like cyan polycarbonate? Interesting...
Also, the options would be quite a bit: standard midnight + midnight backlight. Maybe too much if we want to go both DCS and SA at the same time.
i'm actually wondering about the visibility of the lighted legend across top led and bottom led.
if it's DCS profile, it'll benefit those users with reverse mount switches where the led is on the "top side".
i'm not sure how well will normal mount switches or bottom mount led will benefit from this set up.
if it's SA profile, i totally have no idea how it'll look like.. :))
Also, the options would be quite a bit: standard midnight + midnight backlight. Maybe too much if we want to go both DCS and SA at the same time.
Yes I see your dilemma here. But I have the solution, simply jettison the DCS in favour of the brilliant SA profile :thumb: .
Imagine being the FIRST guy to design a backlit SA Profile. People will be erecting statues in your honour for making this happen.
I'll work on the mockups today and send them for review.
We start next week problly
I'll work on the mockups today and send them for review.
We start next week problly
Damn Matt you're a production line for SP now. I sure hope they decide to offer some monetary compensation for all your hard work in making these designs?
They know if it wasn't for you, they'll have next to no orders coming through their workshop, hence speak to them about it. Don't let a business exploit you for no reason especially when these days everything costs money, that includes time and experience you accrued already with designing a whole lot of key-sets.
Don't forget you alone are responsible for keeping their business running along with all the new key-sets designed by you. Hence don't let anyone walk away without paying, because design costs and it should never be given away freely.
Regarding my relationship with SP I'm not sure I can disclose our agreements, but they are well aware of the value I brought to their business.
I started working back on this there are really a lot of options, but before going any further I want to ask SP if they can provide some samples of polycarbonate + abs in the colors we need. I'd like to go cyan polycarbonate but I believe simply transparent is more compatible.
Anyway the options would be as follow, pictures soon to come as soon as I get confirmation from SP.
Standard Midnight full ABS (the color between brackets)
1) Alpha base (VCO on GB)
2) Numpad base (VCO on GB)
3) ISO (VCO on GB)
4) Midnight mods (VCO on GEW)
5) Midnight numpad (VCO on GEW)
6) Midnight additional modfiers (GB on VCO)
7 Twilight Modifiers (GB on VCO)
8 ) Twilight Numpad (GB on VCO)
9) Twilight additional modifiers (GB on VCO)
Midnight Backlight (with polycarbonate/PC)
10) Backlight base set:
----- Alpha: PC on GB
----- Mod: VCO on PC or PC on GEW
12) Backlight Numpad:
----- Alpha: PC on GB
----- Mod: VCO on PC or PC on GEW
13) Backlight additional modifiers
----- Alpha: PC on GB
----- Mod: VCO on PC or PC on GEW
Some more options:
14) Glow in the dark (5 GOW keys)
xx) additional spacebars (7, 6.25, 6)
To create something unique I'd prefer VCO on PC over PC on GEW. The result would very close to thisShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/bGKtuTE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RC3oYzT.jpg)
(I believe images are by mkawa, not sure, sorry)
Any chance you could do a 4.5 unit spacebar?
I know SP has a 4.5 SA profile mold from past sets, but I've never liked any of them that have came out.
The kits so far. This would be DCS, cherry replica legends with backlight kits.
Regarding SA, I still have to talk with Melissa (I believe it's holiday today in US). The options are: start SA together with DCS, start SA as soon as DCS is tipped, start SA anyway at the end of DCS.
1) BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/xos1vcB.png)
2) Midnight modsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rSX6jHD.png)
3) Twilight modsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/A6a8Qee.png)
4) Moonlight (Polycarbonate legends, aka backlight friendly)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/inWGaW7.png)
The kits so far. This would be DCS, cherry replica legends with backlight kits.
Regarding SA, I still have to talk with Melissa (I believe it's holiday today in US). The options are: start SA together with DCS, start SA as soon as DCS is tipped, start SA anyway at the end of DCS.
1) BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/xos1vcB.png)
2) Midnight modsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rSX6jHD.png)
3) Twilight modsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/A6a8Qee.png)
4) Moonlight (Polycarbonate legends, aka backlight friendly)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/inWGaW7.png)
...But the melting of those plastic....
I think the issue might be that in double shot keycaps you can see the pattern (scaffolding?) from the first shot, which is transparent, interlaced with the dark second shot behind the lettering, which might make it hard to read.
I got pictures of a dark keycap with yellow PC. sorry guys, it's a no-go. The legends are not visible in daylight.
I got pictures of a dark keycap with yellow PC. sorry guys, it's a no-go. The legends are not visible in daylight.
yeah considering that we are not having the backlight version I'll run DCS and SA together.
Now, how do you want SA? I would like a proper angled layout, but we miss some mods. Is that okay with you?
yeah sooner or later a backlight compatible set will pop-up
So, is there anything else we need? (apart from some additional spacebars)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xos1vcB.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rSX6jHD.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A6a8Qee.png)
can we proceed?
can we proceed?Please, add 2x and 1.5 blank keys for dox ...
can we proceed?Please, add 2x and 1.5 blank keys for dox ...
;D
You just shown in the first pic some "Glow-In-The-Dark" keys, can that be applied across all the Legends? That way this key-set becomes a BackLight Set without it needing to be (if you know what I mean).
Would be cool to have a whole Glow-In-The-Dark Key-set for all those midnight typers, such as myself.
yes technically it can be done, I don't really know how they would look though. It's a bit risky...
How about GeekHack keys and WASD cluster?
Oh? The legend on,the return key isn't gold anymore? I think it was better that way
SA profile is very (very) thick and retro.
Would SA profile destroy my MX green? Like how DSA totally killed my mx clears. (Broke a few caps (stem) just by taking them out) I might want I try SA for once.
Would SA profile destroy my MX green? Like how DSA totally killed my mx clears. (Broke a few caps (stem) just by taking them out) I might want I try SA for once.
Hi Matt,
I like the three symbols being used in this keyset (moon, wolf, & coffee). Right now the "Super key" (aka Windows key) is only being offered with the moon symbol. Could you also offer offer a pair with the coffee and wolf symbols?
Hi Matt,
I like the three symbols being used in this keyset (moon, wolf, & coffee). Right now the "Super key" (aka Windows key) is only being offered with the moon symbol. Could you also offer offer a pair with the coffee and wolf symbols?
I might switch the moon with the wolf though... still undecided.
people trust my judgement, in all honesty I can't ask people to spend $150 in a set I have absolutely no clue how it would turn out.I saw those vintage keypcaps of yours and the Granite set - I bet that anything that came out will be really good man!
I'll ask SP if they have some samples.
How about GeekHack keys and WASD cluster?
oh that's a nice idea actually! WASD in polycarbonate (transparent) with light blue legend!
Would SA profile destroy my MX green? Like how DSA totally killed my mx clears. (Broke a few caps (stem) just by taking them out) I might want I try SA for once.
I've added some keysShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/V0IyQIP.png)
yellow ESC is full Glow in the dark with blue legend.
The gamer kit includes a glow in the dark set and a translucent polycarbonate with light blue legends.
Boring Joe's for the sad people out there.
As soon as I get the green light from Melissa I'll push this.
Regarding SA I want to ask Ron if he is pushing his Nuclear data any time soon. I do not want to collide with that.
Been following the progress of this IC for a while now. Still sad that the polls came out in favor of DCS and not DSA :( Really nice set in terms of the colors and the legend ideas.
Been following the progress of this IC for a while now. Still sad that the polls came out in favor of DCS and not DSA :( Really nice set in terms of the colors and the legend ideas.
can we add an alternate yellow legend enter/return key like in the original mockups?
(insane? yes, I am)
I there any chance of this set getting run in DSA later? I'd love to see this for the ErgoDox.
I'm never tired of DSA, simply we had enough of it for the moment.
ok this would be the idea:
Hope it makes sense.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/To6sWZq.png)
This is the only coherent layout we can have with current SP tooling, and I believe it has never been done.
yeah, sorry about that, just the spacebar of course.
We are going to do both DCS and SA.
DCS will probably start sooner.
We are going to do both DCS and SA.Thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it! :thumb:
DCS will probably start sooner.
ok this would be the idea:
Hope it makes sense.
[img width=640 height=130]http://i.imgur.com/To6sWZq.png[img]
This is the only coherent layout we can have with current SP tooling, and I believe it has never been done.
Midnight SAShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lEYaCei.png)
You have two days to spot errors and send suggestions!
I'm wondering how the midnight SA set fits to black Round 5 SA caps mixed together? Or midnight SA with some red splashes?
I can add an HENTU kit if there's interest.
Can i also order a Midnight set? How i can order?
Midnight SAShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lEYaCei.png)
You have two days to spot errors and send suggestions!
It looks like the you're plan for the SA profile changed.
We're not going R3-R1-R2-R3-R3-R3?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/To6sWZq.png)
Instead you're planning to offer two kits to let people choose between R3-R1-R2-R3-R4-R3 & R3 for allShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lEYaCei.png)
I like the option, but my only problem is with the implementation. The current plan means that if someone wants the variable rows, they have to also purchase the variable kit with the base kit with all of the same rows. That's a pretty expensive and wasteful proposition. Are we doing this to ensure that at least one kit gets sufficient orders?
Can i also order a Midnight set? How i can order?
Possible error/inconsistency: In the DSC set of modifiers, "Backspace" is one word, everywhere else is is two words, including the SA modifiers.
All-in-all, it's a pretty set and I look forward to it. First set of keycaps!
I haven't followed all the pages in this thread so please forgive me if it's been stated. Are the enter and escape legends supposed to be different colors?
I like the option, but my only problem is with the implementation. The current plan means that if someone wants the variable rows, they have to also purchase the variable kit with the base kit with all of the same rows. That's a pretty expensive and wasteful proposition. Are we doing this to ensure that at least one kit gets sufficient orders?
No midnight gamer kit for SA? :(
Boring Joe's addition of Esc and Enter?
Boring Joe's addition of Esc and Enter?
sorry? you mean blue instead of yellow?
also would you be willing to part from the row4 in the slant kit to make it cheaper?
Thanks for giving the ISO set some love and include alphas with legends and not just blank caps!
Maybe you could also squeeze in twilight Enter+Shift?
but it sounds like more people would need to speak up to make it happen.
The problem is that we are running 2 versions (slant+flat) and also DCS. I hardly see it reaching high tiers, the kits are very much diluted.
The problem is that we are running 2 versions (slant+flat) and also DCS. I hardly see it reaching high tiers, the kits are very much diluted.
In that case, maybe it's better to just ram through one profile. Compromise on a profile so that we can get the caps at all.
Just to clarify according to the latest images, SA will not include a gamer kit nor a full twilight modifier set?
I am fine with any form factor. My only concern is that I will want to buy all the sets if DCS and SA run!
I was also wondering why the SA set didn't have the Twilight mods?
SA does have a WASD option (look closer)
Why no twilight in SA?
Because we already have slant + flat options. If I had to add twilight we would end up with a gazillion sets and none of them would meet the MOQ.
The solution would be so settle on slant OR flat and add the twilight mods back.
what do you think of making the base kit on variable rows and then add full ergodox kit (with alphas et all) on row3?
I definitely want to do the SA kit right. I'd also like to add the twilight mods to it if we find the way.
I must say that I like the current setup even if it lacks some options. Let's see how the price looks like as we are now.
sure, no problem with the spacebars.
sure, no problem with the spacebars.
Are the 6.25 spacebars universal? Now that I have a leopold I see myself needing to ask this question a lot in the future
DCS 6.25 is universal, yes.
sure, no problem with the spacebars.
Are the 6.25 spacebars universal? Now that I have a leopold I see myself needing to ask this question a lot in the future
Keep in mind that the universal spacebar only works on the FC200 and afaik also on the new FC750R.
But it will definitely NOT fit on a FC500R or a FC700R!
Does anyone have any examples or photos of what an all R3 SA profile setup looks like?
The more I think about the SA set, the more I'm leaning towards it vs. DCS, but I'm unsure as to
whether I'll like all R3 or variable rows. Most of the photos I've googled for SA profiles are all variable
aside from some of the ergodox sets floating around.
I feel like a non-variable profile will look better on a Poker 2 and might be a good alternative.
I can't wait! If we spread the word about the group buy we should have no problem getting to MOQ.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yos2Pw6.jpg)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yos2Pw6.jpg)
Does anyone have any examples or photos of what an all R3 SA profile setup looks like?
Sorry im still new to this, but what site will be hosting the GB? Signature plastics or another site?
Okay thanks just making sure, I do not want to miss this set :PSorry im still new to this, but what site will be hosting the GB? Signature plastics or another site?
When it goes live, the buy will be here on PimpMyKeyboard (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deal-categories/group-buys/). PMK is SP's GB and fun keycap site.
SP. I just pushed all the kits, I'm waiting for Melissa to put them online.
Just as a reminder this is what we are going to do, and they are simply gorgeous!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TST6Uxx.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZGmfm9Q.png)
That doesn't seem doubleshot. They are simply painted.
SP. I just pushed all the kits, I'm waiting for Melissa to put them online.(http://i.imgur.com/nfVsvND.jpg)
Just as a reminder this is what we are going to do, and they are simply gorgeous!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TST6Uxx.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZGmfm9Q.png)
SP. I just pushed all the kits, I'm waiting for Melissa to put them online.
Just as a reminder this is what we are going to do, and they are simply gorgeous!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TST6Uxx.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZGmfm9Q.png)
SP. I just pushed all the kits, I'm waiting for Melissa to put them online.
Just as a reminder this is what we are going to do, and they are simply gorgeous!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TST6Uxx.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZGmfm9Q.png)
Is the base set going to include the stepped caps lock? Is the stem off center?
I'm still waiting for Mel's final approval, I believe it should go live today.
Hopefully they can get the GB up before the weekend. I can't take this waiting!As excited as I am, I could always use more time to save up money, but oh well :P
No news yet, Melissa told me that was a bit busy these days.
Are the modifiers going to be available as standalone subsets? I have not read the entire thread, so it may be already discussed, I apologize in advance if that were the case.
I could talk with some vendors if they are willing to add the cable to the mix, but that would be a separate orderThanks! How long do these take on average?
Okay, a few questions. First off, what are the compatibility issues with these keycaps and a Leopold FC600M? I was looking at a Poker 2 but I feel like the Leopold's insert/delete keys and arrow cluster would allow me to showcase more of these keys. What problems would I run into, and should I just get the poker 2 to make my life a lot easier?
Thanks for the info! I don't care about not having the arrow key cluster but it feels like a crime letting those beautiful ones from this set go to waste. Is there anything else you can recommend?Okay, a few questions. First off, what are the compatibility issues with these keycaps and a Leopold FC600M? I was looking at a Poker 2 but I feel like the Leopold's insert/delete keys and arrow cluster would allow me to showcase more of these keys. What problems would I run into, and should I just get the poker 2 to make my life a lot easier?
FC660M is a great keyboard with high quality materials and assembly. However its layout takes some special keys. Mainly 1u windows, 2.25u right shift, and the space bar. As Matt already pointed the last one may be a headache unless you reworked the position of both lateral stems. Other alternative is to have its plate laser cut to fix the stabilizer's stems to the standard positions. Of course you should take all apart for that. One time job though.
The set appears to have everything but the spacebar.
The Poker is just an ANSI standard that you may want to consider if trying different sets is the most important for you. The only consideration is the lack of arrows, the layout requires FN+something to access them.
Thanks for the info! I don't care about not having the arrow key cluster but it feels like a crime letting those beautiful ones from this set go to waste. Is there anything else you can recommend?Okay, a few questions. First off, what are the compatibility issues with these keycaps and a Leopold FC600M? I was looking at a Poker 2 but I feel like the Leopold's insert/delete keys and arrow cluster would allow me to showcase more of these keys. What problems would I run into, and should I just get the poker 2 to make my life a lot easier?
FC660M is a great keyboard with high quality materials and assembly. However its layout takes some special keys. Mainly 1u windows, 2.25u right shift, and the space bar. As Matt already pointed the last one may be a headache unless you reworked the position of both lateral stems. Other alternative is to have its plate laser cut to fix the stabilizer's stems to the standard positions. Of course you should take all apart for that. One time job though.
The set appears to have everything but the spacebar.
The Poker is just an ANSI standard that you may want to consider if trying different sets is the most important for you. The only consideration is the lack of arrows, the layout requires FN+something to access them.
Thanks a lot. I don't really have the patience to build my own keyboard so I'm beginning to think the poker is really my only option, unless I go TKL.
Okay, thanks for the info. I will probably get the poker because I think it would hurt me to see these key caps sitting in my possession without occupying a keyboard because I currently run a black widowThanks a lot. I don't really have the patience to build my own keyboard so I'm beginning to think the poker is really my only option, unless I go TKL.
Right, Poker and V60 are the only ones in that category to carry an standard layout, however the later is not available yet. A few units popped and gone in like 2 days. Besides Poker 2 has keyboard macross, not exactly programmable but close.
the only problem is the spacebar, if you want a complete set you need to cut and glue the stems in the right position
I hope so!
Tomorrow? :(
I'm not sure what that means, I just like the purdy colours.Tomorrow? :(
Looks like not today at least; PST business hours have passed. I'm eager for this to start too because it means we're that much closer to figuring out the SA caps.
I hope so!
Just be aware Matt that there are lots of group buys currently happening and thus far 3/4 of them are failing to get the required numbers for SP to even bother heating up the molds to pour the plastic into.
Maybe the people here are running out of money (guessing) or aren't interested in key-caps anymore :o .
I am still hoping they're waiting for you to release the next 'special' Matt3o designed key-set and the numbers will fly in to order these. Very difficult to predict Geekhack moods and likes.
This one will reach MOQ and exceed like granite, no doubt it my mind.
There were so many awesome GBs in the last couple of months that many people might have spent their keyboard money for 2014.
I wouldn't mind delaying this GB a little bit to let my wallet revocer ;)
There were so many awesome GBs in the last couple of months that many people might have spent their keyboard money for 2014.
I wouldn't mind delaying this GB a little bit to let my wallet revocer ;)
Yeah, I keep forgetting that not everyone's wallet will enjoy a 24/7 gangbang of Group Buys ;D .
I don't think it will be so successful. it should tip, but I doubt it will do as good as the Granite.
I could have my sights set a bit high, there is also 2 group buys for this (SA/DCS) so maybe I'm overestimating things a little.
However, I bought into Granite and this one is even more eye catching to me and I'm a tad biased in thinking others will feel the same way also :D. But the add-ons are great and the colors are unique, same with the idea even though you may consider it to be a more 'standard/general' theme, so for those reasons too I think it has a lot going for it.
It really is a nice set and I'm sure it will do well, but don't forget that granite kinda coincided with a massdrop ergodox buy, and I'm sure that helped boost it's numbers. I know that is one of the reasons I bought it (though that doesn't explain why I picked up two sets, both Mods, and a numpad.). I can see this doing better than Galaxy or Skull, maybe hitting the 200 mark.
yeah! I'm sold. I'll set 500 as MOQ :D
yeah! I'm sold. I'll set 500 as MOQ :D
Lastly this GB has some windowed keys and other extras which make it a bit more distinct, and you can get extra spacebars without committing to such a huge pack for 30$.
Lastly this GB has some windowed keys and other extras which make it a bit more distinct, and you can get extra spacebars without committing to such a huge pack for 30$.
Where are you seing windowed keys? The last mockups on page 16 of this thread don't have any. Or am I blind?
Can somebody help a noobie out and explain the difference between DCS and SA? I'm going to guess... Key cap profiles?
This going to be able in both?
Lastly this GB has some windowed keys and other extras which make it a bit more distinct, and you can get extra spacebars without committing to such a huge pack for 30$.
Where are you seing windowed keys? The last mockups on page 16 of this thread don't have any. Or am I blind?
probably he refers to the PC caps.Can somebody help a noobie out and explain the difference between DCS and SA? I'm going to guess... Key cap profiles?
DCS is the standard profile you find nowadays on most keyboards. SA is a tall spherical top profile widespread in the past.
DCS first. Later we will release the SA version as well.I've never had the pleasure of trying SA so I'll just stick with DCS. It's awesome that you're offering both, though.
The set will go live next Monday (June 23)
happy b-day. what a better gift to yourself than a Midnight set?! :D
The set will go live next Monday (June 23)
I only hope SP solved the issues they had with the last GB, otherwise it will be a nightmare :'(
The set will go live next Monday (June 23)
The set will go live next Monday (June 23)
I guess you were not part of the Galaxy Class GB... Well they had a lot of problems with the checkout process, in my case I bought at first only the base set and the Battle Bridge child, I wanted to add later on also the Numpad and the Tsangan...well that did not work. I added the kits in my basket and there was no way to checkout, the error was Shipping Address 1 missing or not checked, only when I selected an item with shipping included from an other GB I managed to checkout, 4 minutes before the GB closed and only for Tsangan set :( . I have signaled the problem to SP 4 days before the GB closed with a lot of follow up e-mails and PM's and posts on the PMK forum, they were aware of the problem, but did not solve it in time. At least after the GB closed SP did a great thing and issued manual invoices to people who had the problem. This way I got also the Numpad Kit .
Also there were issues with the login, I had to reset my password 3 or 4 times...
SP needs to work on the site, also a big issue is mobile compatibility, that is close to none ...
PMK is a great concept, that enabled some cool GB's (SKULL Squadron, Granite, Vim, Galaxy Class), but it still lacking maturity and the bugs are only driving customers away :(
I didn't have any problems with my Granite order, but they definitely need to get the mobile compatibility worked out.
These are the updated mock-upsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/XR0N8y8.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MG8nT4c.png)
The darker gray is a pretty neutral almost-black-gray.
The lighter gray has a very light cold tint in it. But turquoise add a pinch of light and blue to the whole.
The darker gray is a pretty neutral almost-black-gray.
The lighter gray has a very light cold tint in it. But turquoise add a pinch of light and blue to the whole.
yes, base alpha + mods you like.
yes, base alpha + mods you like.
Please tell me you have considered including extra 1800 keys with this design layout ?
yes, base alpha + mods you like.
Please tell me you have considered including extra 1800 keys with this design layout ?
LOL, no it's pretty basic setup actually. It's DCS after all...
SA will be a bit more complex than that
SA will be both variable-row and all row-3
SA Ergodox is included.
DCS should go live today (I hope) but won't have ergodox kit.
SA Ergodox is included.
DCS should go live today (I hope) but won't have ergodox kit.
Any GeekHack keys?
Any GeekHack keys?
nope, sorry
Congratz to have the set online :D
Waiting for the DSA profile :cool:
If DCS tip
and SA tip
maybe we could have DSA :)
If DCS tip
and SA tip
maybe we could have DSA :)
If DCS tip
and SA tip
maybe we could have DSA :)
How reliant is the SA group buy on the success of DCS? Seems like the SA profile keysets do very well on average (Commando 23, Penumbra, Calm Depths, Hyperfuse) and it's a shame that it might not make production due to the success of DCS which may not be as sought after (despite what the poll in this thread says, 86 votes is hardly representative of the real number as MOQ is usually 100 anyway).
Off topic: Oddly enough it took me forever to realize YOU were the one behind the Skull Squadron stuff a while ago. So thank you for that. Those were my first purchase before i even had a board to put them on.
I do not want SA to cannibalize DCS. As soon as DCS tips we will move on to SA. If it doesn't tip, SA will start anyway.
I do not want SA to cannibalize DCS. As soon as DCS tips we will move on to SA. If it doesn't tip, SA will start anyway.
If DCS tip
and SA tip
maybe we could have DSA :)
I'm just not sure how many people there would be left to buy a DSA set after the DCS and SA GB's get finished.
I keep getting requests for an ergodox kit. You people really want a DCS ergodox? I have no problem adding one, but I don't think DCS is the best profile for that.
Sorry, looks like the conversation is continuing over here.
Matt3o, do you have a list of key sizes & rows from the Additional Modifiers set that you can share? I'm terrible at eye-balling it. :-[
Not many people have joined yet... I hope a lot more people join on this. What keyboards would require the additional modifiers? If such keyboards are uncommon, I might not need the alternative modifiers.
I would expect at least 38 orders...
If DCS tip+1
and SA tip
maybe we could have DSA :)
Let's see how it ends up, but I'm not that keen at running more of it.
oh worry not, I'm already into CNC right now. I won't have much time left for anything else :)
My first group buy. Pleaseeee sweet baby jesus, let us get enough people on this!!!
Haha I sent the link to a few friends.
For the Poker II, i just need the base kit and the modifiers at the bare minimum right?
...waiting to press the "Buy" button on the DSA version!If this one doesn't do that well there won't be a DSA version. Buy this first! :P
...waiting to press the "Buy" button on the DSA version!If this one doesn't do that well there won't be a DSA version. Buy this first! :P
...waiting to press the "Buy" button on the DSA version!If this one doesn't do that well there won't be a DSA version. Buy this first! :P
Agreed. Supporting this set will greatly improve the chances of SA and DSA versions. That is exactly what I'm doing.
...waiting to press the "Buy" button on the DSA version!same here
Still planning SA (r3) set after this?
I guess not everyone uses custom layouts, but that + ergodox people add up.
I just want to thank all those who voted for DCS. Thank you for wasting my time.
This might be Midnight SA.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZbnvlZQ.png)
I just want to thank all those who voted for DCS. Thank you for wasting my time.
This might be Midnight SA.
I just want to thank all those who voted for DCS. Thank you for wasting my time.
This might be Midnight SA.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZbnvlZQ.png)
It's pretty pitiful that 38 people voted for DCS and we can barely get half that on the base kit.
No more twilight for the most part? That was my favorite part :( It's still a beautiful set though.
I just want to thank all those who voted for DCS. Thank you for wasting my time.
my bad. lesson learned.
my bad. lesson learned.
im sorry people are using me as an example against what happened here sir, i think you are doing an amazing job, you are so diligent with all your buys and put a ton of work in to them, and they deserve every success
i dont think the numbers reflect how popular this set will become once it gets into producution
I just want to thank all those who voted for DCS. Thank you for wasting my time.
my bad. lesson learned.
im sorry people are using me as an example against what happened here sir, i think you are doing an amazing job, you are so diligent with all your buys and put a ton of work in to them, and they deserve every success
i dont think the numbers reflect how popular this set will become once it gets into producution
bunny, I don't really blame you :) you have all my respect and I love every design you make.
my post was a little ranty because I wanted SA and decided to do DCS instead based on the poll.
I'm done with polls :)
I'm done with polls :)
go with your gut man
there is a reason i dont do any interest checks ;)
I believe Midnight is that color combo that you really die for only when you see it on others' keyboard and you swear to yourself for not picking it :)
I'm a huge fan of many options :) I'm in for custom keyboards and the standard sets are not very appealing to me. That being said, I could go for a variable row layout and an all row3 ergodox kit that includes alphas.
Can someone check the Ergodox kit? Does it work? Am I missing something?
thanksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/V1bXjkd.png)
Can someone check the Ergodox kit? Does it work? Am I missing something?
Can someone check the Ergodox kit? Does it work? Am I missing something?
thanksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/V1bXjkd.png)
Given this options, can someone advise what option should I get if I am to get an hhkb layout?
Do the profiles of the Additional Modifiers need to be changed? All row 3 doesn't make a lot of sense anymore, does it?
Do the profiles of the Additional Modifiers need to be changed? All row 3 doesn't make a lot of sense anymore, does it?
Almost all modifiers are on row3 (SP doesn't have row4 modifiers), but maybe I missed something. What do you think need to be changed?
I'd love to add the twilight kits back but clearly there's not enough traction. Either twilight mods or variable+fixed row options. We can't have both.
Do the profiles of the Additional Modifiers need to be changed? All row 3 doesn't make a lot of sense anymore, does it?
Almost all modifiers are on row3 (SP doesn't have row4 modifiers), but maybe I missed something. What do you think need to be changed?
I don't think there's enough interest for slant and flat designs, but the heck, it costs me nothing adding both.
Looking good, last couple things that I can see:
-missing backspace from r3 set?
-Still have R1/R2 only for home/end/pgdn/pgup/ins/del
More testing. Please let me know if you spot any errorsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/C2hBbmL.png)
please note there are no custom legends! The few novelty keys are all already available legends. The spacebars are x2 just as place holder. I will add spacebars in other sizes
P.S. What is the advantage of variable row vs all row 3 on SA?
Just thinking about your idea - most of the keycaps are only row 3, would not be cheaper (and easier to produce) to assume only row 3?
And how about one extra "Icon Controller Set" for these SA sets?
Something like you did in the Granitte ...
to which kit are you referring to? Granite had a ton of novelty keys :)
More testing. Please let me know if you spot any errorsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/C2hBbmL.png)
please note there are no custom legends! The few novelty keys are all already available legends. The spacebars are x2 just as place holder. I will add spacebars in other sizes
PS: I don't remember if 2u backspace is available in row1. I have to check
thanks for your feedback, really appreciated.Well, in this case the Alpha set was $35 but the mods were split in two groups + various bits and pieces were $53 each because they had a harder time hitting lower tiers.
I must say that I haven't played much on the front end of the PMK website (the backend is painful enough...), so every input is very much appreciated.
I don't if the fragmentation of kits is really a problem, though. Granite had way more kits than this and did very well (370 base sets, plus all the options).
Personally I like lots of options since I'm very much in custom keyboards, but I understand that maybe on average when you have 3-4 kits that's more than enough.
More testing. Please let me know if you spot any errorsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/C2hBbmL.png)
please note there are no custom legends! The few novelty keys are all already available legends. The spacebars are x2 just as place holder. I will add spacebars in other sizes
PS: I don't remember if 2u backspace is available in row1. I have to check
More testing. Please let me know if you spot any errors
More testing. Please let me know if you spot any errors
Is there any way to get shift keys in R4 for the variable set? I think that's the only row that doesn't have a matched profile.
Also, to me Midnight is just the dark theme, I added the twilight mods because I've been asked so many times. Apparently I shouldn't listen too much to suggestions :DIt's still awesome but yes, FOLLOW YOUR HEART!
Also, to me Midnight is just the dark theme, I added the twilight mods because I've been asked so many times. Apparently I shouldn't listen too much to suggestions :DIt's still awesome but yes, FOLLOW YOUR HEART!Show Image(http://www.inwardquest.com/upfiles/followyourheart-1.gif)
:P
Also, to me Midnight is just the dark theme, I added the twilight mods because I've been asked so many times. Apparently I shouldn't listen too much to suggestions :D
Only need 11 more base sets, wouldn't count the DCS out yet. Twilight needs 6 and midnight mods only need 3! Going to pimp it on r/mechanicalkeyboards.
Only need 11 more base sets, wouldn't count the DCS out yet. Twilight needs 6 and midnight mods only need 3! Going to pimp it on r/mechanicalkeyboards.
Only need 11 more base sets, wouldn't count the DCS out yet. Twilight needs 6 and midnight mods only need 3! Going to pimp it on r/mechanicalkeyboards.
Might be worth taking it back to DT as well. What's the etiquette there, bump the original post or make a new one?
I'd be really happy if DCS tipped, already got Penumbra in SA so I'd like to try a different profile, though I'll probably go for all-row-3 still if it doesn't.
So will any of the child deals be made if the base set doesn't make it? A guy on Reddit is asking about the GitD kit.
Do the Page Up, Page Down, Volume Up, and Volume Down keys need to be abbreviated for space? And backspace... one or two words?
I believe Nuclear data GB is coming up soon, I don't want to collide with other GBs in the same profile, so I'll push midnight SA when nuclear will end.make sense
no polycarb. SP discourages SA+PC. I might add glow in the dark though.I have one in my grabbag (http://i.imgur.com/0eSrUBg.jpg?1) (right in between the Win and the Shamrock). Because it's translucent and SA is pretty thick, the plastic it doesn't look right. The edges bleed giving it a messy look.
I have one in my grabbag (http://i.imgur.com/0eSrUBg.jpg?1) (right in between the Win and the Shamrock). Because it's translucent and SA is pretty thick, the plastic it doesn't look right. The edges bleed giving it a messy look.
I have one in my grabbag (http://i.imgur.com/0eSrUBg.jpg?1) (right in between the Win and the Shamrock). Because it's translucent and SA is pretty thick, the plastic it doesn't look right. The edges bleed giving it a messy look.
Sorry bud from the pic you provided it looks clearly like a DCS, the standard profile from SP.
Just take a pic showing the sides then you'll know if it's SA because that baby will be quite large compared to any other SP profile. Never show pics from above because all the profiles look similar, until you see them side ways.
More testing. Please let me know if you spot any errorsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/C2hBbmL.png)
please note there are no custom legends! The few novelty keys are all already available legends. The spacebars are x2 just as place holder. I will add spacebars in other sizes
PS: I don't remember if 2u backspace is available in row1. I have to check
In addition to the blank Ergodox set would it be possible to get a labeled set similar to what you did for the Granite Ergodoxian (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/granite-ergodoxian/)?
only if it's okay for you to have legends in the wrong orientation
only if it's okay for you to have legends in the wrong orientation
only if it's okay for you to have legends in the wrong orientation
It's not going to make or break my interest in the set (which is very much made), but I'd definitely get a set even if some of the legends were in the wrong orientation.
only if it's okay for you to have legends in the wrong orientation
It's not going to make or break my interest in the set (which is very much made), but I'd definitely get a set even if some of the legends were in the wrong orientation.
I agree. I'd pick up a set even if the legends weren't in the right orientation. On top of that I'd also pick up a set of the blank Ergodox caps too.
1.5x - shift, ctrl,tab, backquote (`~), backspace, forward slash (|\), another shift and enter, vertical FN, vertical capslock, and two more vertical FN.+1.5x - esc
2x - space, enter, shift, space
1x - fn, win, alt, app/meta, ctrl
can you guys make a list of all the keys you'd like to see in the ergodox kit?
can you guys make a list of all the keys you'd like to see in the ergodox kit?
SA doesn't have cherry font. this would be with standard SP font.
the wrong orientation is because this is 2-shot (and not sublimated).
no polycarb. SP discourages SA+PC. I might add glow in the dark though.
just remember that Nuclear data has to complete first.
okay. I'm now leaning towards the following profile:Show Image(http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/2cmold/2cmoldp1.jpg)
I already suggested something like this few pages ago, but it didn't receive much love. Now I see that even Filco chose this profile for its high profile set, so I wish to push it back to your attention.
okay. I'm now leaning towards the following profile:Show Image(http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/2cmold/2cmoldp1.jpg)
I already suggested something like this few pages ago, but it didn't receive much love. Now I see that even Filco chose this profile for its high profile set, so I wish to push it back to your attention.
I like it, but I'm still trying to figure out how well it would work with Ergodox.
esc would be available in R3 too
+1esc would be available in R3 too
Sounds good! And a 1.5x ESC as part of the Ergodox legend set would give us a huge amount of flexibility. :)
the idea would be to use the Filco layout + all row3 option.
but I'm not sure yet.
the idea would be to use the Filco layout + all row3 option.
but I'm not sure yet.
Definitely need all Row3 for weird Cherry keyboard setups like the 1800 series.
Also having an option of a full variable row set would be purchased for the standard 87 or 104 keyboard. Why not offer both so that everyone has a choice or goes for both in the final buy up?
Shall get both due to having keyboards that need them so desperately :thumb: .
I don't think there's enough interest to offer all options.
I'd be interested in a common kit, variable rows kit and additional mods!
I want my contoured SA, doggonnit!
I'd be interested in a common kit, variable rows kit and additional mods!
I want my contoured SA, doggonnit!
And somehow convince Signature Plastics to make the molds for Row 4 Shifts. Between yourself and 7bit, shouldn't the community be able to make that happen?
And somehow convince Signature Plastics to make the molds for Row 4 Shifts. Between yourself and 7bit, shouldn't the community be able to make that happen?
I'll give you a scoop... Midnight SA might be the first with shift in right profile.
And somehow convince Signature Plastics to make the molds for Row 4 Shifts. Between yourself and 7bit, shouldn't the community be able to make that happen?
I'll give you a scoop... Midnight SA might be the first with shift in right profile.
And somehow convince Signature Plastics to make the molds for Row 4 Shifts. Between yourself and 7bit, shouldn't the community be able to make that happen?
I'll give you a scoop... Midnight SA might be the first with shift in right profile.
@matt3o,
My local forum was brainstorming about keycap configs, and I actually think that having the base alpha and base mods kits fitting into 60% would provide the best flexibility. Having an additional Tsangan kit would make it easy for the WKL users.
TKL users can then buy into the TKL addon, and full sized user can buy into the numpad addon. Ergodoxian users can simply buy the addon that they need.
That way, you can keep the cost of the base kit really low and let users buy into the kit that they need and eliminating unnecessary caps.
My personal experience was that most of my function keys from the granite set isn't being used at all since I only use it on my ergodox.
I might even run SA Retro first.
As soon as Melissa confirms that they have the shifts in the right profile...
Did you say SA Retro!?!?!!?
<runs around the room waving hands in the air and screaming>
And 3-1-2-3-4-3!
I think I have to sit down for a moment...Show Image(http://www.lifeinprogress.ca/.a/6a0120a95a88d5970b01a3fccf7fc7970b-500wi)
I want both Retro AND Midnight SA profile sets... NAOW!
Oobly is right, this would excite everyone here on Geekhack if this happens SOON.
that totally depends on SP unfortunately
yeah, that would be possible.Then sign me up!
okay. I'm now leaning towards the following profile:Show Image(http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/2cmold/2cmoldp1.jpg)
I already suggested something like this few pages ago, but it didn't receive much love. Now I see that even Filco chose this profile for its high profile set, so I wish to push it back to your attention.
Is it possible to get different languages? A ISO kit would not suffice, as i need a swedish layout(more differing keys) Otherwise this is the ****! and im up for it.
Is it possible to get different languages? A ISO kit would not suffice, as i need a swedish layout(more differing keys) Otherwise this is the ****! and im up for it.
Weeell. I wouldn't go so far as to say you NEED swedish layout. I type in Finnish and English on Finnish ISO layout, UK ISO layout, US ANSI layout and International ANSI. I also program using all those layouts, but my favourite for this is International ANSI.
I have found that as long as the physical layout stays the same it's easy to type in the character layout you're most used to even though the keys have a different character on them. You quickly get used to which characters shown will give you the ones you need.
So IMHO, ISO layout is enough, since although it may be a slight irritation at first, you get used to it quickly. It's worth it for getting a great set of keycaps on your board :)
yeah, that would be possible.Then sign me up!
Would the language specific legends be printed then instead of doubleshot? I assume it would cost too much to have molds made for these.
Should we assume this is on hold until Nuclear Data and/or Granite R2 run their courses?
Should we assume this is on hold until Nuclear Data and/or Granite R2 run their courses?
this is on hold for Nuclear Data, no collision with Granite R2
first batch was DCS, second will be SA
Maybe split it? I'll be glad (personally) because I don't really want excess keys lying around. Just hate the waste.
:|Maybe split it? I'll be glad (personally) because I don't really want excess keys lying around. Just hate the waste.
considering that more people are buying the kit, you probably end up paying it less than a tsangan kit :)
:|Maybe split it? I'll be glad (personally) because I don't really want excess keys lying around. Just hate the waste.
considering that more people are buying the kit, you probably end up paying it less than a tsangan kit :)
OCD = less keys = less clutter = less waste
Accountant = cheap
My wallet will vote for cheaper sets, but my heart rebels against the idea... but as long as you understand what I'm getting at, I'm ok with it.
This set will probably break the bank for me because I need to buy a TKL set and an ergodox set eventually.
:|Maybe split it? I'll be glad (personally) because I don't really want excess keys lying around. Just hate the waste.
considering that more people are buying the kit, you probably end up paying it less than a tsangan kit :)
OCD = less keys = less clutter = less waste
Accountant = cheap
My wallet will vote for cheaper sets, but my heart rebels against the idea... but as long as you understand what I'm getting at, I'm ok with it.
This set will probably break the bank for me because I need to buy a TKL set and an ergodox set eventually.
you mean that you are throwing them away?! I'd try to resell them before wasting them.
adding all spacebars is not a problem. I'm waiting for SP to ready the missing keys on row2 anyway. It might take a while...
Ah I see the ergodox set is blank, are you going to add legends to them later on?
"parallel to the longest side oriented legends" for ergodox
"parallel to the longest side oriented legends" for ergodox
Is that "parallel to the longest side-oriented legends" or "parallel to the "longest-side oriented legends"?
- Ron | samwisekoi (asking for hoi polloi)
"parallel to the longest side oriented legends" for ergodox
Is that "parallel to the longest side-oriented legends" or "parallel to the "longest-side oriented legends"?
- Ron | samwisekoi (asking for hoi polloi)
"parallel to the longest side oriented legends" for ergodox
Is that "parallel to the longest side-oriented legends" or "parallel to the "longest-side oriented legends"?
- Ron | samwisekoi (asking for hoi polloi)
parallel-to-the-longest-side oriented legends actually
Please for the love of all that is pure and holy take your time with this GB and allow time for my wallet to recover.
I believe we are talking end of October. I could run it sooner but it makes no sense to release an SA set now when in two months you can have full support.Thank you.
I believe we are talking end of October. I could run it sooner but it makes no sense to release an SA set now when in two months you can have full support.Thank you.
Regards,
sakai4eva's wallet
win keys have the wolf now, but I get your point.
basically it's to create some continuity and to avoid adding too many fancy icons.
still undecided actually. Let's see what's the reaction when we start posting pictures of the DCS midnight set.
I have a couple of DCS ideas... but Retro or Midnight will be SA.
The DCS version will be available on SP keyshop soon.
Running a SA profile now is just pointless considering that soon we'll have the missing legends. The response to midnight hasn't be excellent even though it's a set that I totally adore, so probably Retro SA will take the precedence. I don't know yet, honestly we had really too many GBs lately and I'm not very keen at running a GB just for the sake of it.
The response to midnight hasn't be excellent even though it's a set that I totally adore, so probably Retro SA will take the precedence. I don't know yet, honestly we had really too many GBs lately and I'm not very keen at running a GB just for the sake of it.
The DCS version will be available on SP keyshop soon.That's great news. Hope they have the Twilight mods too!
Running a SA profile now is just pointless considering that soon we'll have the missing legends. The response to midnight hasn't be excellent even though it's a set that I totally adore, so probably Retro SA will take the precedence. I don't know yet, honestly we had really too many GBs lately and I'm not very keen at running a GB just for the sake of it.It makes sense to wait a bit, mainly for the Row4 profile keys and legends. It's true that there have been a lot of key set GBs lately, but it doesn't seem to be slowing down much -- especially with the new PMK Group Buy system. Guess we'll see when we get closer to the holidays.
What is the retro set? Will it have a WASD cluster?
What is the retro set? Will it have a WASD cluster?
this is the first retro set http://keypuller.com/dsa-retro/ in DSA, round 2 will be SA.
Still pulling for Midnight. :D
I'll pretty much buy any SA profile set that includes a 4.5 spacebar :thumb:Does that even exist?
I'll pretty much buy any SA profile set that includes a 4.5 spacebar :thumb:Does that even exist?
I'll pretty much buy any SA profile set that includes a 4.5 spacebar :thumb:Does that even exist?
He's taking the piss here, because SP doesn't make 4.5 spacers for SA at all. Hence his bullsh1te statement ;D .
SP actually does do a 4.5 space bar and it comes in SA profile only. It's why I'm excited for any SA profile set to be ran.
I seem to recall that it's 4u (not 4.5)
SP actually does do a 4.5 space bar and it comes in SA profile only. It's why I'm excited for any SA profile set to be ran.
Signature Plastics does not manufacture SA space bars in any other size than 6.25u / 7u.
SP actually does do a 4.5 space bar and it comes in SA profile only. It's why I'm excited for any SA profile set to be ran.
Signature Plastics does not manufacture SA space bars in any other size than 6.25u / 7u.
You are misinformed. 4, 4.5 (I just checked and it can be done), 8 and 9 are actually available (well even 3u, but it's not properly a spacebar)
SP actually does do a 4.5 space bar and it comes in SA profile only. It's why I'm excited for any SA profile set to be ran.
Signature Plastics does not manufacture SA space bars in any other size than 6.25u / 7u.
You are misinformed. 4, 4.5 (I just checked and it can be done), 8 and 9 are actually available (well even 3u, but it's not properly a spacebar)
My bad, I was editing while you replied.
SP actually does do a 4.5 space bar and it comes in SA profile only. It's why I'm excited for any SA profile set to be ran.
Signature Plastics does not manufacture SA space bars in any other size than 6.25u / 7u.
You are misinformed. 4, 4.5 (I just checked and it can be done), 8 and 9 are actually available (well even 3u, but it's not properly a spacebar)
My bad, I was editing while you replied.
I can't say that SP is prompt in updating theirs documents :P
PS: congrats on your GB :)
Retro would look so much cooler with a wooden keyboard case! I'm still trying to come up with a plan for Midnight.
at the moment SP doesn't seem able to fulfill orders in a timely manner (not to mention the production errors).
I'm waiting for the situation to normalize a little, maybe when Melissa will be back from maternity.
I knew this would happen with PMK, but if SP doesn't change something in the production lane I don't see how this is going to change.
at the moment SP doesn't seem able to fulfill orders in a timely manner (not to mention the production errors).
I'm waiting for the situation to normalize a little, maybe when Melissa will be back from maternity.
I knew this would happen with PMK, but if SP doesn't change something in the production lane I don't see how this is going to change.
I know there have been issues with granite R2, but is there a reason to be worried about SP's ability to produce an ABS SA set?Round 5 production (SA ABS) keeps getting delayed and has all sorts of errors.
You can drop the homing S key; I was the person who asked for it and I'd feel bad making everyone subsidize my layout (even if it does have a 30 year history). Thanks for adding it, that was a really cool gesture. I'm still in for at least three sets.
Round 5 production (SA ABS) keeps getting delayed and has all sorts of errors.
I'd really like to run an SA Retro.
I'd really like to run an SA Retro.
I'd really like to run an SA Retro.
I'd really like you to do it
I'd really like to run an SA Retro.
Out of respect to the thread, let's stop with the off topic discussion.
I know I contributed to this aswell. I'm taking me and my shame out of this now though.
Hugs
matt3o, I'd love an SA Retro set. If you're doing a uniform profile, I'd suggest row 4
Out of respect to the thread, let's stop with the off topic discussion.
I know I contributed to this aswell. I'm taking me and my shame out of this now though.
Hugs
Has this thread been cleaned? What off topic? I don't see anything OT.
matt3o, I'd love an SA Retro set. If you're doing a uniform profile, I'd suggest row 4
Soon I will produce the Brownfox (case+PCB), SA retro would be simply perfect on it. So yeah I'll go ahead with that.
Soon I will produce the Brownfox (case+PCB), SA retro would be simply perfect on it. So yeah I'll go ahead with that.
"Brownfox" what is that :o ?
Sorry for not spending much time on here but this is the first time I've read about your forthcoming Case and PCB, please say this is at least a TKL and not some tiny 40 or 60 character keyboard for munchkins?
It will be no plate?
super mega exclusive just for the followers of this threadShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kjf8se5.png)
super mega exclusive just for the followers of this threadAwesome, I've been considering a 65% keyboard recently.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kjf8se5.png)
All this talk of retro is making my wallet ache.
Still hoping SA retro will be made one day :blank:
Matt3o, Skull Squad in SA. Come on you know you want to complete the trifecta. Either that or GMK!!
Matt3o, Skull Squad in SA. Come on you know you want to complete the trifecta. Either that or GMK!!
Would appreciate the Midnight SA set to be done first, due to having inbuilt fluoro green plastic (I hope).
Matt3o, Skull Squad in SA. Come on you know you want to complete the trifecta. Either that or GMK!!
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
yeah I also know matt3o is helping out with gh60? so i'm ok with waiting, I just hope it's an actual possibility and patiently wait or should I keep trying to find his first release :0
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
yeah I also know matt3o is helping out with gh60? so i'm ok with waiting, I just hope it's an actual possibility and patiently wait or should I keep trying to find his first release :0
I think you might want to have a look at this.
http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/midnight-keycap-set
Edit: The base kit is out of stock but they could restock it at any time. Just something to keep an eye on.
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
yeah I also know matt3o is helping out with gh60? so i'm ok with waiting, I just hope it's an actual possibility and patiently wait or should I keep trying to find his first release :0
I think you might want to have a look at this.
http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/midnight-keycap-set
Edit: The base kit is out of stock but they could restock it at any time. Just something to keep an eye on.
I actually called them awhile back and was told that they wouldn't be restocking them :/
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
yeah I also know matt3o is helping out with gh60? so i'm ok with waiting, I just hope it's an actual possibility and patiently wait or should I keep trying to find his first release :0
I think you might want to have a look at this.
http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/midnight-keycap-set
Edit: The base kit is out of stock but they could restock it at any time. Just something to keep an eye on.
I actually called them awhile back and was told that they wouldn't be restocking them :/
I'm sure they said that about DSA Dolch at some point too. But they did.
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
yeah I also know matt3o is helping out with gh60? so i'm ok with waiting, I just hope it's an actual possibility and patiently wait or should I keep trying to find his first release :0
I think you might want to have a look at this.
http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/midnight-keycap-set
Edit: The base kit is out of stock but they could restock it at any time. Just something to keep an eye on.
I actually called them awhile back and was told that they wouldn't be restocking them :/
I'm sure they said that about DSA Dolch at some point too. But they did.
Dolch is a lot more popular so it's good for sales. Midnight won't be restocked.
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
yeah I also know matt3o is helping out with gh60? so i'm ok with waiting, I just hope it's an actual possibility and patiently wait or should I keep trying to find his first release :0
I think you might want to have a look at this.
http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/midnight-keycap-set
Edit: The base kit is out of stock but they could restock it at any time. Just something to keep an eye on.
I actually called them awhile back and was told that they wouldn't be restocking them :/
I'm sure they said that about DSA Dolch at some point too. But they did.
Dolch is a lot more popular so it's good for sales. Midnight won't be restocked.
Because you said so?
Then why leave it up in the keyshop?
Matt3o already gave them permission to sell additional sets. If there's enough interest they're not going to just decline an opportunity for easy money. That makes zero sense.
No I'd expect to see DCS again some day.
Hopefully we'll see a renewed interest in Midnight SA once Retro ships and the Massdrop Novatouch project goes to production. :thumb:
yeah I also know matt3o is helping out with gh60? so i'm ok with waiting, I just hope it's an actual possibility and patiently wait or should I keep trying to find his first release :0
I think you might want to have a look at this.
http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/midnight-keycap-set
Edit: The base kit is out of stock but they could restock it at any time. Just something to keep an eye on.
I actually called them awhile back and was told that they wouldn't be restocking them :/
I'm sure they said that about DSA Dolch at some point too. But they did.
Dolch is a lot more popular so it's good for sales. Midnight won't be restocked.
Because you said so?
Then why leave it up in the keyshop?
Matt3o already gave them permission to sell additional sets. If there's enough interest they're not going to just decline an opportunity for easy money. That makes zero sense.
No I'd expect to see DCS again some day.
Midnight as a GB was a flop. It didn't even make it to 50 sets on the base alphas, and barely hit 50 combined sets between both sets of mods.
Midnight as a GB was a flop. It didn't even make it to 50 sets on the base alphas, and barely hit 50 combined sets between both sets of mods.
That was the DCS version which frankly deserved to go belly-up BUT this is the SA Profiled version which is FAR, FAR better than any other profile version made by SP.
Anyone casting nasty aspersions upon this great Colour-way by Matt3o, shall be choked to death when I thrust my spikey cactus down your slimy throat ;) .
they had permission to run some additional copies, not to restock forever :)
with the exception of granite, all my sets are limited editions.
Actually I might be interested in running a Midnight SA... asking SP to source a slightly lighter blue than GEW... mmmmh
just to be clear... I won't be running any more SA until SP makes the missing molds.
just to be clear... I won't be running any more SA until SP makes the missing molds.
I think that is very wise. They do enough SA business that they should invest in completing the molds.
The only SA set I jumped on was Symbiosis because it was all Row 3 so there wouldn't be the profile mismatch.
can you explain the missing molds problem?