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Title: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:22:29
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Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:26:42
Specs?  What makes these peerless?   ;)
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: cijanzen on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:28:50
That blaring led is certainly different. I’d have to see it on but I’d imagine it being very glaring. Branding is a little over the top imo.
Looks quite nice overall though!
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:29:30
Nice OTD clone, please add the cutouts on the plate like on the FMJ while you're at it  :thumb:

(Not sarcastic btw but if you go this far in cloning the bottom at least go all the way)
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:31:54
Looks nice.

Same question about "peerless".
PCB specs? QMK?
Is the logo laser etched? I don't think that adds a very premium feel.
Estimated price?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:32:23
That blaring led is certainly different. I’d have to see it on but I’d imagine it being very glaring. Branding is a little over the top imo.
Looks quite nice overall though!
We are polishing it ;)
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Signature on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:36:12
I think the "meant to be different" logo is a bit ironic on an OTD replica, however I like the overall design choice with the straight edges! I also like that there is no brass insert :D Keep at it Hammer, looks like a banger [:
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:41:07
Binge named it Peerless.

That indicator LED is way too large, how would it work? also, shouldn't the logo say 'dare to be different'? In addition, the logo not being centered over the arrow keys would probably drive me crazy
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:47:05
"Peerless" is already a name for a keyboard switch (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Fujitsu_Peerless). The name is also sometimes used for discussions about the switch's type of mechanism (for which there are better, but less known switches than the actual Peerless itself).

The Peerless switch is not very popular, but it does have its fans that like it a lot. The biggest complaint about the Peerless keyboards are that they use low-quality guide-shafts for stabilisers.
An actual Peerless 80% with fixed stabilisers might actually be desirable to the switch's fans.

Choosing "Peerless" to name a keyboard would therefore be a bad idea. Confusing. If you do it intentionally, then that would be a dıck move IMHO.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: donut_sauce on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:04:39
I like this. Would prefer no "Meant to be..." branding/slogan on it.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Gati on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:16:05
That branding is an instant turn off, looks tacky as hell
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:23:07
I didn't expect my slogan to bring so many objections on this keeb, I think it makes no sense.
But It may be stupid for native speakers.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:43:10
Nice OTD clone, please add the cutouts on the plate like on the FMJ while you're at it  :thumb:

(Not sarcastic btw but if you go this far in cloning the bottom at least go all the way)

What OTD board are you referring to?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: xondat on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:45:36
I think the "meant to be different" logo is a bit ironic on an OTD replica, however I like the overall design choice with the straight edges! I also like that there is no brass insert :D Keep at it Hammer, looks like a banger [:

Exactly which points are a replica?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:54:16
Nice OTD clone, please add the cutouts on the plate like on the FMJ while you're at it  :thumb:

(Not sarcastic btw but if you go this far in cloning the bottom at least go all the way)

What OTD board are you referring to?

360c, 456gt, 356cl

Though I should clarify that I don't mean the exterior, I mean the internals, compare the bottom to the 360c:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/15287037439/in/album-72157648098547719/

Lemme state again that I don't think it's a bad thing, I've wanted to get an affordable TKL with OTD mounting for a looong time now, but the FMJ is only available in China and not really affordable anyways.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Zuology on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:58:40
The over-sized LED hole is dead-ass taken off the Matrix 8XV2.0, and the rest of the board isn't exactly different from the majority of other traditional/classic TKL designs (OTD based or not). Only the curve/radius on the base wedge transition is unique.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:00:12
Well, I think it's cool. I'd prefer it without the logo, though. The buy for these is already running in China.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: avid on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:06:13
Very cool keyboard! Would also prefer without the text on front.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Signature on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:06:32
I think the "meant to be different" logo is a bit ironic on an OTD replica, however I like the overall design choice with the straight edges! I also like that there is no brass insert :D Keep at it Hammer, looks like a banger [:

Exactly which points are a replica?
I think the design looks good so I don't wanna talk smack on stuff in an IC.

explanation is in spoiler.

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The whole mounting system on the back piece is (can't say 1 to 1 replica cuz I dont have measurements) VERY similar to the OTD360c (is the only kb I can refer to since I haven't owned any else).  That means that the mounting for the plate and case + hole for usb cable are VERY similar. Just my take on it tho.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5600/15470711741_ab133da88a_h.jpg)

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98062.0;attach=206801;image)
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:07:20
Thank you guys on GH and Discord for your advice,
I will not put my slogan on the top anymore.
And btw it's just a sample, we will not use laser engraving.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:33:58
Thank you guys on GH and Discord for your advice,
I will not put my slogan on the top anymore.
And btw it's just a sample, we will not use laser engraving.

I think that's a good choice to make, as per the engraving.

Where do you talk to others on Discord?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:50:06
Thank you guys on GH and Discord for your advice,
I will not put my slogan on the top anymore.
And btw it's just a sample, we will not use laser engraving.

I think that's a good choice to make, as per the engraving.

Where do you talk to others on Discord?

kustoms channel on mechkeys
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 06 November 2018, 11:17:09
I think the "meant to be different" logo is a bit ironic on an OTD replica, however I like the overall design choice with the straight edges! I also like that there is no brass insert :D Keep at it Hammer, looks like a banger [:

Exactly which points are a replica?
I think the design looks good so I don't wanna talk smack on stuff in an IC.

explanation is in spoiler.

More
The whole mounting system on the back piece is (can't say 1 to 1 replica cuz I dont have measurements) VERY similar to the OTD360c (is the only kb I can refer to since I haven't owned any else).  That means that the mounting for the plate and case + hole for usb cable are VERY similar. Just my take on it tho.
Show Image
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5600/15470711741_ab133da88a_h.jpg)


Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98062.0;attach=206801;image)

What you said is right, I designed it 2 years ago and OTD is hot in China at that time, people like its traditional design and so do I, I want to make a traditional looking keyboard and used their structure.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 06 November 2018, 12:14:57
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Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: wixxzblu on Tue, 06 November 2018, 12:53:47
it looks great hammer, im 100% in for a kit  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 06 November 2018, 12:58:26
Like other said please reconsider changing the name.. peerless is very ironic, but I like the bottom.

Just pick your own names hammer, between this and crp I'm not sure this is the way to go.

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Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: Signature on Tue, 06 November 2018, 13:12:25
I think the "meant to be different" logo is a bit ironic on an OTD replica, however I like the overall design choice with the straight edges! I also like that there is no brass insert :D Keep at it Hammer, looks like a banger [:

Exactly which points are a replica?
I think the design looks good so I don't wanna talk smack on stuff in an IC.

explanation is in spoiler.

More
The whole mounting system on the back piece is (can't say 1 to 1 replica cuz I dont have measurements) VERY similar to the OTD360c (is the only kb I can refer to since I haven't owned any else).  That means that the mounting for the plate and case + hole for usb cable are VERY similar. Just my take on it tho.
Show Image
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5600/15470711741_ab133da88a_h.jpg)


Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98062.0;attach=206801;image)

What you said is right, I designed it 2 years ago and OTD is hot in China at that time, people like its traditional design and so do I, I want to make a traditional looking keyboard and used their structure.
Nothing wrong with that, gl with the Buy Hammer! :D
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 06 November 2018, 13:17:59
That branding is an instant turn off, looks tacky as hell

Yeah, not sure about the logo.
Reminds me of a Gamer Keyboard MK3 1337 Pro.

The rest is nice though.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 06 November 2018, 13:20:48
That branding is an instant turn off, looks tacky as hell

Yeah, not sure about the logo.
Reminds me of a Gamer Keyboard MK3 1337 Pro.

The rest is nice though.

Where can I find MK3 keyboard?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer Peerless80%
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 06 November 2018, 13:30:09
That branding is an instant turn off, looks tacky as hell

Yeah, not sure about the logo.
Reminds me of a Gamer Keyboard MK3 1337 Pro.

The rest is nice though.

Where can I find MK3 keyboard?

It's sold at a good price here. (https://i.imgur.com/y1Ex41E.png) :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: rymnd6c28 on Tue, 06 November 2018, 19:46:33
Nice design, but like the other said, no logo please. But to be fair, if you insist on having something on top, you could use "HAMMER" or "HMMR" or whatever with a nice sleek font. Like TGRs keeb or OTDs customs. But what font you choose is VERY important.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: kiwi99 on Tue, 06 November 2018, 21:05:28
Good looking start,  Would have to agree the slogan and logo on the top is a turn off for most people.

I think most people prefer a clean aesthetic, especially on the top and you can get away with a bit more on the back or side.

Also, I would say your "H" logo and text's design doesn't translate well to the enthusiast market, sort of like how I think the dolphin text between the arrow keys and home cluster is a bit out of place personally.

Lastly, I think externally the design is clean especially that base! Good luck with the buy hope you take peoples feedback about the logo and consider the change :)
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: lundmore on Tue, 06 November 2018, 23:20:44
Looks great.

Do you have dimensions? angles?

I'd drop the front logo + slogan and change the bump ons to wider, lower profile ones.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 07 November 2018, 05:13:12
I like the design with the exception of the over the top branding everywhere and the giant led hole.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: Gajible on Tue, 13 November 2018, 01:46:56
Definitely interested, despite not needing more TKL boards.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 November 2018, 02:58:21
Definitely interested, despite not needing more TKL boards.

me always
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Wed, 14 November 2018, 18:50:27
In. With the logo. Everyone always tries to remove the logo. Go with your heart.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 14 November 2018, 19:53:06
In. With the logo. Everyone always tries to remove the logo. Go with your heart.

it's not a dealbreaker for me (after all i own a mira) but it's not the prettiest logo in the world
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 15 November 2018, 02:20:35
woot :) peerless is gone, I am in if you decide to run a international buy..
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: GeneriksGiraffe on Thu, 15 November 2018, 23:52:00
OOF Impact font on the PCB
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: breckstar on Fri, 16 November 2018, 13:35:36
Price?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: Smoff on Fri, 16 November 2018, 20:40:43
Interested in   that blue one, looks really good!
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: avid on Mon, 19 November 2018, 15:51:08
Color selection are fantastic.

Is there any estimate on when GB / pricing?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:34:07
The Chinese GB was a shade under $300
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: wixxzblu on Fri, 23 November 2018, 13:35:11
Hammer, any estimate on when you may do the geekhack gb run?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 25 November 2018, 08:18:36
Hammer,
When I compare your GH|DT|/r/MK-wide famous 60% Hammer case to your current purpose design, your current purposed design is similar to all other designs.
I do think some unique and attractive design features of the 60% Hammer case can be implemented in this TKL design.

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44619.0;attach=25094;image) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44619.0)
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44619.0;attach=31706;image) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44619.0)
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: ThomasTH on Sat, 15 December 2018, 11:13:03
Got my china gb Hammer TKL, absolutely pleased and super fast shipping.

Def a great value for money
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181215/23e9046e0ca416694b98dfb9e6200f71.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181215/64095c8bab473cc70225f8b0c63d8a25.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: mkarlsson on Sat, 15 December 2018, 11:23:37
Very nice!
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: ramnes on Sat, 15 December 2018, 17:49:50
hng that green is very very nice

QMK?

about the logo: I love the H but not so fond of the catchphrase
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: Rensuya on Tue, 25 December 2018, 12:27:34
Like the colors, interested to see more.
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: RamenTechMech on Fri, 28 December 2018, 00:56:46
Does anybody know when the GB for the hammer is going to drop?
Title: Re: [IC]Hammer 80%
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 28 December 2018, 03:38:06
Does anybody know when the GB for the hammer is going to drop?

It actually already ran in china. was ready stock i think but i dont know when he plans to do an int'l buy