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Offline Gaspar

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 22:51:50 »
The granite set is one of my all time favorite so my preference would go toward something like it!

That said, of the layouts displayed, blue and grey is my favorite.

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 00:40:13 »
Are the colors from the top two schemes supposed to match colors from current RF keycap sets? The black on grey looks similar to what ships with the 87U EK edition, while the orange/yellow looks close the the orange set that was available in the past.

no they are not. gray is lighter, yellow is in between topre-yellow and topre-orange.

Will there be a JIS set?

that's up to Topre. I don't have info about it.

I prefer the white alphas blue modifiers one, but what about yellow alphas and blue modifiers?`

I'm not a huge fan on yellow+blue. It reminds me of a flag or a football team :)

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 00:44:49 »
Cyan :D

Maybe purple

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 01:25:04 »
This is fantastic news, I'm picking up a Realforce soon.

I like #4 the most by far, would you consider adding a white and light purple option as well?

If you do I will be crazy excited
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 02:07:27 »
I prefer the white alphas blue modifiers one, but what about yellow alphas and blue modifiers?`

I'm not a huge fan on yellow+blue. It reminds me of a flag or a football team :)

It actually reminds me of the Ukrainian flag, especially lighter yellow and blue (even aqua).

But black on white alphas half of us already have - so producing a new set with those would not really be anything new.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 02:58:41 »
hey sweet! i'm excited to see what we end up with. i'd love to get blanks but if this is a 104 set (without the side printing of the 87/hhkb sets) I might still be interested in getting in on this.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 03:04:49 »
So much exciting thorpie news at the moment I can hardly keep track. Jizzing left right and centre over here.

That said my preferences are any of the 2-colour sets, with my favourite being the dark grey & purple. Purple is the best colour and saying otherwise is blasphemy.

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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 03:09:57 »
Jizzing left right and centre over here.


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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 03:42:57 »
Either of the Blues or the Purple would be cool, the Purple set especially.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 05:11:20 »
unfortunately HHKB and Leopold compatibility won't be possible, at least not this time.



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Of course, it's still very cool news though. I have a TKL Realforce I could put these on ;)
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 05:16:16 »
matt3o - i get that/why hhkb is not on the table; however, if we are dealing with blanks at some point, would throwing in additional keys for ISO/JIS support be considered? That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB (not sure about leopolds) including short right shift AND be beneficial to int'l users.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 07:08:57 »
matt3o - i get that/why hhkb is not on the table; however, if we are dealing with blanks at some point, would throwing in additional keys for ISO/JIS support be considered? That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB (not sure about leopolds) including short right shift AND be beneficial to int'l users.

I'll try, but the Topre guys were adamantine about HHKB compatibility.

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 07:12:26 »
i like the blue/dark grey, not much of a fan of yellow.

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 07:15:04 »
matt3o - i get that/why hhkb is not on the table; however, if we are dealing with blanks at some point, would throwing in additional keys for ISO/JIS support be considered? That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB (not sure about leopolds) including short right shift AND be beneficial to int'l users.

I'll try, but the Topre guys were adamantine about HHKB compatibility.

As in, absolutely not whatsoever? Interesting :)
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 07:43:12 »
matt3o - i get that/why hhkb is not on the table; however, if we are dealing with blanks at some point, would throwing in additional keys for ISO/JIS support be considered? That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB (not sure about leopolds) including short right shift AND be beneficial to int'l users.

I'll try, but the Topre guys were adamantine about HHKB compatibility.

As in, absolutely not whatsoever? Interesting :)
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 07:46:19 »
Holy crap  :thumb:
All of them look great.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:26:04 »
I'm in for this! Definitely like any set with the gray alphas

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:43:43 »
matt3o - i get that/why hhkb is not on the table; however, if we are dealing with blanks at some point, would throwing in additional keys for ISO/JIS support be considered? That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB (not sure about leopolds) including short right shift AND be beneficial to int'l users.

I'll try, but the Topre guys were adamantine about HHKB compatibility.

This whole thing is really cool, but dang about HHKB not even remotely being a possibility. 

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 10:09:30 »
will these sets include extra caps lock and Lctrl keys (for when you have DIP1 enabled)?

if yes then i would totally love a blank beige/blue 10th anniversary keyset, without side-printing.

edit: an extra Esc key would also be nice! and i would love windows keys without the weird shiny "bubbles" on them. but these would just be nice bonuses :D
and tbh i would also buy a normal white/grey blank set :D boring, eh? well what can i say, i just love that simple color combo..

btw i really dig the icons + font you use on your versions, looks very slick. i'm hoping they'll go with those
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 15:52:05 »
matt3o - i get that/why hhkb is not on the table; however, if we are dealing with blanks at some point, would throwing in additional keys for ISO/JIS support be considered? That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB (not sure about leopolds) including short right shift AND be beneficial to int'l users.

I'll try, but the Topre guys were adamantine about HHKB compatibility.

But FC660C compatibility can be achieved by only adding one extra key that already exists in the set.  So instead of one 2.25u Shift, it would have 2 of them.  That MUST be possible...  :)

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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 16:15:47 »
But FC660C compatibility can be achieved by only adding one extra key that already exists in the set.  So instead of one 2.25u Shift, it would have 2 of them.  That MUST be possible...  :)
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 16:24:36 »
But FC660C compatibility can be achieved by only adding one extra key that already exists in the set.  So instead of one 2.25u Shift, it would have 2 of them.  That MUST be possible...  :)
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 16:57:21 »
Damn, that white/blue combo is strong, particularly since it looks to be more a nice cyan/turquoise color than the sky blue.  The blue/gray combo is #2 for me.

Might have to reconsider waiting for a Realforce 45g over the NovaTouch :D

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 17:23:18 »
Even though it's unlikely, I would love the original Granite color scheme.

Out of those ones though... grey and blue are definitely my preference.

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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 19:29:50 »
Even though it's unlikely, I would love the original Granite color scheme.

Out of those ones though... grey and blue are definitely my preference.

Isn't that the same as the white RF caps?

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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 19:33:46 »
I'll be all over that #4 design.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 20:00:20 »
Two thoughts:
Instead of neutral alphas and colorful mods, colorful alphas w/ neutral mods could be nice


I'd love to see pink keys. Topre made a limited edition in pink, which was lovely. PBT takes color so nicely, you could use new colors like a watermelon pink or magenta. Or a deep crimson / wine red. That would be beautiful.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 20:19:29 »
Colourful alphas with neutral mods just looks gross every time.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 20:20:22 »
What profile are these going to be?

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 21:44:12 »
What profile are these going to be?
Whatever standard topre profile is. OEM-ish I guess?


I doubt they'd produce some other profile that their own.  :)

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 22:19:09 »
I have to say though, I'm tealed out from the Adler, SkyDolch, and Infinity ALPS modifier kits recently. I'd be more in favour of the original Topre lavender (or their other colours too) which are very bright and vibrant. Although new blanks sets of those or anything really (and/or ones with symbol legends) will crack my wallet.

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« Reply #82 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 23:13:14 »
Sorry, I haven't seen a JIS Realforce set. I'm assuming it would obviously not include an ANSI spacebar, though, right?
That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB

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« Reply #83 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 23:17:52 »
WOW, did not think this day was going to come any time soon  :eek: :D :thumb: I am so fraking excited right now!

I vote for the bottom versions with the icons, just because it's so hard to find realforces with custom caps, I think icon legends push it just more out there and gives it the uniqueness that's sorely needed in the RF world.

I find it really hard to pick a favourite so I won't vote. If they were all avaiable I'd probably just buy all of them.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 00:28:54 »
The purple on gray looks pretty! What if the colors where softer though?

Also, with your knowledge and experience with the spacebars, and what you will learn with this new project would it be possible to make a separate GB with just the parts needed to complete an FC660C and a HHKB?

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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 00:40:58 »
Matt3o: Are you at liberty to say how you came to be in a position to be selected to design this set?
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 01:07:02 »
Matt3o: Are you at liberty to say how you came to be in a position to be selected to design this set?

honestly, I don't know. I believe the work I did with the spacebar helped.

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« Reply #87 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 01:13:00 »
honestly, I don't know. I believe the work I did with the spacebar helped.

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 01:29:33 »
Sorry, I haven't seen a JIS Realforce set. I'm assuming it would obviously not include an ANSI spacebar, though, right?
That would end up including all the keys necessary for HHKB

yeah i meant more like an all-in-one pack for ansi+jis
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 01:46:56 »
Colourful alphas with neutral mods just looks gross every time.
No way.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 02:44:53 »
Well, the teal/grey combo always comes out nice.

Are these going to be available in blank flavor as well?

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 02:52:01 »
Well, the teal/grey combo always comes out nice.

Are these going to be available in blank flavor as well?

I don't know yet.

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 02:56:51 »
Even though it's unlikely, I would love the original Granite color scheme.

Out of those ones though... grey and blue are definitely my preference.

Isn't that the same as the white RF caps?

The alphas are close but the mods on the RF are more like classic beige mods, and granite is a different grey.
I guess they are kind of close though. What I had in mind was more like the full granite set with blue enter and the other color options.
Not to mention the granite icons.



On a completely different and more important note.
Any chance we can get these in Blanks???

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 06:36:21 »
Pink anyone?

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 06:52:27 »
I do not work with pink, liliac, pale yellow, tea green or any pastel color :P

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« Reply #95 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 07:32:57 »
i'd love pink, lilac, AND tea green. i already have topre yellow :P
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« Reply #96 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 07:42:07 »
Purpley.
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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 07:58:43 »
It is great to have an opportunity to purchase new Topre keycap sets. Unfortunately (for me), I do not like any of the sample colorways. My own preference is for colors that were used in previous Topre sets, such as English White, English Blue, and Black (or very dark Grey). In particular, I like Blue alphas and Black mods, preferably blanks. Thanks.

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Re: Designing the next Topre keycap set
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:02:30 »
Any chance at a Dark green color for the mods?

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« Reply #99 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:11:03 »
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