The Linux/Unix Keyset

[i3oilermaker]

Discuss!


I will track plausible ideas in OP.


So far we have :

[jdcarpe]

Anyone want something like these?

 

Dyesub, of course.

[Zehkul]

?

[komar007]

So here's the ESC:

[Icarium]

That orange ubuntu and that black arch key both look really nice.

[boost]

I like them all ^_^

[funkymeeba]

Oh man. What we ought to have is a Larry the Cow cap. Maybe purple key with white foreground? I'll try to draw something up when I get home from work this evening. In the meantime... Larry!

[komar007]

Oh why didn't I think about that... I already want one. Or two. Or more!

[JBert]

Round 3 doubleshots had Tux keys.

[komar007]

I've seen them but didn't order. I have to say I didn't really like how they came out in the end. They look a bit messy. And the required spacing killed them a bit.

[Djuzuh]

round 4 doubleshots will have tux keys. And gnome keys.

And glider keys btw \o/

But I'm definitively in for some keys if it ever will happen.

BTW, I had a nice idea for a keycap which I'll probably do as a GB soon .

[i3oilermaker]

round 4 doubleshots will have tux keys. And gnome keys.

And glider keys btw \o/

But I'm definitively in for some keys if it ever will happen.

BTW, I had a nice idea for a keycap which I'll probably do as a GB soon .

Any Unicorn Keys. And Puppy Dog Keys.  And Fireworks Keys. And Lollypop Keys

[Djuzuh]

round 4 doubleshots will have tux keys. And gnome keys.

And glider keys btw \o/

But I'm definitively in for some keys if it ever will happen.

BTW, I had a nice idea for a keycap which I'll probably do as a GB soon .

Any Unicorn Keys. And Puppy Dog Keys.  And Fireworks Keys. And Lollypop Keys

sorry to disappoint you.

[grasshopper]

It would be nice to have some ADM-3A style H,J,K, and L keys with arrows on them to go with the Vim escape keys.

[Djuzuh]

It would be nice to have some ADM-3A style H,J,K, and L keys with arrows on them to go with the Vim escape keys.

I do agree.

But a lot of people run non-standart layouts on here.

Or have a different profile/color scheme they don't want to mess up.

So it's hard to get a common design interesting a lot of people.

You're not the first one thinking of it .

[telepete]

Can we see a green geeko modifier? No Suse ppl?

[Djuzuh]

Can we see a green geeko modifier? No Suse ppl?

Not a lot of people use suse .

[i3oilermaker]

It would be nice to have some ADM-3A style H,J,K, and L keys with arrows on them to go with the Vim escape keys.

Isn't that basically Round 3? 

[Djuzuh]

It would be nice to have some ADM-3A style H,J,K, and L keys with arrows on them to go with the Vim escape keys.

Isn't that basically Round 3? 


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He meant that he wants arrows beneath the letters.

[i3oilermaker]

It would be nice to have some ADM-3A style H,J,K, and L keys with arrows on them to go with the Vim escape keys.

Isn't that basically Round 3? 


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He meant that he wants arrows beneath the letters.

Ahhh I see - That is doable...is there much interest for those?

[fartq]

Can we see a green geeko modifier? No Suse ppl?

Not a lot of people use suse .

PEOPLE USE SUSE!??!?!

[Djuzuh]

As I said, I don't rock standart SP profile on my alpha part of the keyboard (for now), I don't type in qwerty, and I like my keyboard all blank black.

So I'm probably not interested at all.

[telepete]

Can we see a green geeko modifier? No Suse ppl?

Not a lot of people use suse .

PEOPLE USE SUSE!??!?!

Yes sir! lol plus it would be a cool key!

[funkymeeba]

I'll give you that. I love that SUSE logo.

[inlikeflynn]

linux mint logo would be cool and possible after cleanup

[Djuzuh]

I rock archlinux, and would defo get an arch key if it gets to happen.

And if it doesn't, I'll just make the GB one day.

BTW, is anybody good with graphics? .

[inlikeflynn]

I rock archlinux, and would defo get an arch key if it gets to happen.

And if it doesn't, I'll just make the GB one day.

BTW, is anybody good with graphics? .

I think you'd lose all the detail of the archlinux logo if it was a DS key. All the sharp little angles would go away making it just a big blue A

[rao2100]

I want them all and more...

The debian logo and the red hat logo would be nice.

(I think I am addicted)

[Zwi]

Just some suggestions off the top of my head...

• Emacs logo -- May be too complex for a DS
• GNU logo -- Also may be to complex
• Glider (hacker emblem) -- I know its being done in in round 4
• Gnome foot -- Is this still in round 4?
• Open Source logo
• Red Hat, SUSE, etc.

[dorkvader]

YEAH Glider!

Check it out:



I'd be down for some in PBT Dyesub.

Also, Dyesub is the answer to all these keycaps. Tricolour ubuntu logo? Dyesub. Good-looking linux mint logo? Dyesub. It's really the  answer to everything.

[i3oilermaker]

I'm really a big fan of double shots...the legends come out so much more crisp and clean. 

I'll work on a few of these ideas and add to OP

[grasshopper]

Maybe this is a bit of a stretch in a Linux specific thread, but as the Raspberry Pi currently only runs Linux, some Raspberry Pi keys to replace the Windows keys would be cool.

[i3oilermaker]

OP updated with some mockups of feasible doublshots.

[komar007]

OP updated with some mockups of feasible doublshots.

Thanks.
As for the control-brace key, that green was just random. Maybe some other color will look better. I'll think about that.
I hope someone else will want one... I'm not buying 50:D

[Zehkul]

Also, Dyesub is the answer to all these keycaps. Tricolour ubuntu logo? Dyesub. Good-looking linux mint logo? Dyesub. It's really the  answer to everything.

No, it’s not the answer to x on black keys that I love so much.

[inlikeflynn]

I'm really a big fan of double shots...the legends come out so much more crisp and clean. 

I'll work on a few of these ideas and add to OP

I also tend to like DS better.

anyways, here is a Linux Mint mod key without the other graphic effects in there and just the white DS part

[johnhamelink]

Would love a \n return key

[komar007]

Would love a \n return key

Me too;)

[älg]

I'd like a keycap with the mutt-dog:

[fim]

Any chance we can get puffy?

[Djuzuh]

isn't puffy yellow?

[fim]

Yes



But I think the wireframe one is easier to adapt (plus looks cooler )

[rknize]

+1 for Debian and Glider.  If be down for Linux Mint too.

[rao2100]

Open BSD for the win!

[Anynoupy]

The Arch key seems really nice !
What about a Fedora key ? Will try and make a design.

[komar007]

Oh man. What we ought to have is a Larry the Cow cap. Maybe purple key with white foreground? I'll try to draw something up when I get home from work this evening. In the meantime... Larry!

I know you wanted to do the larry key, but I couldn't resist checking out how it will look;)



The colors would be RCJ on WA and WA on RCJ, respectively.


EDIT: I attached the simplified larry svg

[damorgue]

A quick google of common distro logos. I am not at home and have no access to anything to make mock-ups. Gentoo has simple versions of the logo. Redhat would be nice with 3 colours. Does anyone know why the spoiler tag doesn't work?

[funkymeeba]

Oh man. What we ought to have is a Larry the Cow cap. Maybe purple key with white foreground? I'll try to draw something up when I get home from work this evening. In the meantime... Larry!

I know you wanted to do the larry key, but I couldn't resist checking out how it will look;)

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The colors would be RCJ on WA and WA on RCJ, respectively.

Those are beautiful!

[komar007]

Those are beautiful!

Thanks:)


So we have ubuntu, gentoo, arch, (suse?). I'd say we should stop with distros now, or we'll end up with ton of different keys, which will be crazy expensive.
As for the group buy, how many different keys and how many of each type should we have to make this happen?
Maybe we can split the tooling costs evenly among participants to reward those who order more, because if everyone takes just their distro and nothing more, none of this will happen because of costs...
I don't know, just thinking loud;)

[Djuzuh]

to have a decent price, we need 50 keycaps per logo if we go the doubleshot  route, and less if we go infil or dyesub.

[damorgue]

How about a key which says 'terminal'

[Zifle]

How about a key which says 'terminal'

I'd approve of this, even more so something like this, though:

[komar007]

to have a decent price, we need 50 keycaps per logo if we go the doubleshot  route, and less if we go infil or dyesub.

So maybe we should prepare like 10-15 complete feasible ideas, then set the number of keys per set, let's say 5, make a survey, where everybody votes 5 times for distinct keycaps and then each participant buys whole sets of 5 caps for a set price.
This price can be a little higher to cover the tooling costs of the next, say 5 caps, which will allow us to also buy these less common keycaps for sensible prices, if we buy the basic set.
This sounds a bit like Round Four...
Not sure this is good:D

[Djuzuh]

to have a decent price, we need 50 keycaps per logo if we go the doubleshot  route, and less if we go infil or dyesub.

So maybe we should prepare like 10-15 complete feasible ideas, then set the number of keys per set, let's say 5, make a survey, where everybody votes 5 times for distinct keycaps and then each participant buys whole sets of 5 caps for a set price.
This price can be a little higher to cover the tooling costs of the next, say 5 caps, which will allow us to also buy these less common keycaps for sensible prices, if we buy the basic set.
This sounds a bit like Round Four...
Not sure this is good:D

The organisator decides how he wants it done, end of story.

If you step forward and make this happen, you get to choose how it works. But if people don't agree with your methods, they won't buy ofc .

[komar007]

But if people don't agree with your methods, they won't buy ofc .

And that's what I'd fear the most if I were to organize it;)
Anyway, it was just a suggestion. Let's hope more people will want larry the cow:)

[Djuzuh]

How about a key which says 'terminal'

I'd approve of this, even more so something like this, though:

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BTW, love this.

[älg]

How about a key which says 'terminal'

I'd approve of this, even more so something like this, though:

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There could be two version of this key: green on black = user-shell, and red on black = root-shell

[Djuzuh]

How about a key which says 'terminal'

I'd approve of this, even more so something like this, though:

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There could be two version of this key: green on black = user-shell, and red on black = root-shell

If there isn't enough interest to do those, I'll run those myself on qwerkeys.

[damorgue]

That one would be beautiful with white sides, black top and white letters.

[Djuzuh]

why do you want white sides?

EDIT: oh yeah, to give the impression that the terminal is in a window.

[i3oilermaker]

I like the terminal idea...I will do a mockup when I have a little bit of time.

[Anynoupy]

Very basic mock-up, also thinking about making the background a bit more "blueish"



And definitely in for the Terminal keycap, great idea !

[Zifle]

Just throwing the idea out there, could a terminal key be made doubleshot, white as base, shot with black, something similar to the image I previously linked, with the white base working as the border, and the ">_" ?
Not sure how it would look, but might be nice if it works.

[boost]

I want a redhat key and /Var key ^_^

[Djuzuh]

Just throwing the idea out there, could a terminal key be made doubleshot, white as base, shot with black, something similar to the image I previously linked, with the white base working as the border, and the ">_" ?
Not sure how it would look, but might be nice if it works.

Look at the 9-15 billiard keys to get an idea.

[damorgue]

I was thinking those new keys by QWERkeys that had one colour on the sides (white), one colour on the top face (black) and one white legend to show the terminal.

[i3oilermaker]

Added prompt keys...I think we are getting close here!

[inlikeflynn]

I'm really a big fan of double shots...the legends come out so much more crisp and clean. 

I'll work on a few of these ideas and add to OP

I also tend to like DS better.

anyways, here is a Linux Mint mod key without the other graphic effects in there and just the white DS part

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i3oilermaker, what about the Linux Mint one?

[boost]

Sudo key!!!

[i3oilermaker]

That one could be tricky to do...I was starting to think this set should be more generic Linux/Unix and less specific distributions because A) We can to every dist. B) Most of those logos are trademarked and may get denied by SP and C) A lot of them are too complex for double shots.

If anyone has more generic unix ideas throw them out there.

[boost]

Ch mod

[inlikeflynn]

That one could be tricky to do...I was starting to think this set should be more generic Linux/Unix and less specific distributions because A) We can to every dist. B) Most of those logos are trademarked and may get denied by SP and C) A lot of them are too complex for double shots.

understandable. the LM one is from their Creative Common Licensed graphic which shouldn't be a problem for SP. I think it fits within their specifications, but it may need modifications too.

anyways, i might run LM myself  separately then if I get motivated enough

[i3oilermaker]

kill -9 backspace?

[Djuzuh]

kill -9 backspace?

I have a way more awesomer idea for the backspace.

But I want to try making a group buy.

Now I just need to do the SVGs .

But I will order everything in the OP if you do a GB for it !

[i3oilermaker]

If you want to throw the idea out I am happy to do the SVG and work it into this GB

Up to you.

[Djuzuh]

mh… yeah why not.

I have other ideas I want to run. Procrastination ftw !


I want a backspace with this on it :

:(){ :|:& };:

[i3oilermaker]

mh… yeah why not.

I have other ideas I want to run. Procrastination ftw !


I want a backspace with this on it :

){ :|:& };:

No offence but I like kill -9 more  

I don't really get it...

[Djuzuh]

type it in a terminal and you'll see !

Oh, and save everything you are working on before. Just you know, because it's good practice.

(hint: it's the most well known fork bomb)

[wiredPANDA]

Alright. The ^C and prompt keys got my attention. Nice mock-ups. Can't wait to see some of these ideas as prototypes down the line.

[sth]

The terminal key would probably work best if it was just >_ rather than the whole image.
That or $_ / #_

[telepete]

Terminal keys look great. Really clean.

[bebuxe]

>mkawa_
for the SUSE:
http://www.suse.com/company/careers/
*no lie. Most of your appliances use SUSE one way or another. Esp. a new car.

>sth
Agreed. I am making #█ and $█

>Et al.
PLEASE wait, I need to make MANY of these.
ANSI C!, EOT ^D, NUL ^@ \0, LF \n, ␠, TCP IP, Gopher mascot!, IRC, ncurses, lynx web browser?, surf, Firefox or Mozilla, Dennis Ritchie (SO GOING ON THIS ONE)!, Ken Thompson?, return 0;?, Haskell λ, FreeBSD Head,  Ghostscript!, GIMP?, Xiph fish (vorbis ogg group),  TiMidity++, bc/dc, #!bin/sh (or #!), NOT, goto, printf, while(1), break, ..., rm -rf, /dev/null, touch, dig, sudo, pw, shutdown, eject, regex, man man, ed, nc, ssh, Go?, ksh93, bash, UTF-8, sed, CSV, JSON, xz?, and more programs to come!

I need to make poll for these. P.S.: still editing

+1 ESC ^[, +1 GNU, +1 GLIDER!!!!, +1Open source, +1 real terminal (WIP)

[komar007]

I like "return 0;" for enter!

[Findecanor]

The only Linux-y key I want is a 1-unit Meta key that goes well together with my Dolch key caps. Fat chance, though.

[damorgue]

The only Linux-y key I want is a 1-unit Meta key that goes well together with my Dolch key caps. Fat chance, though.

Doesn't Round3 (and Round3 in the current Round4) have one?

[älg]

[...] That or $_ / #_

I support this Or sth like $>_ and #>_ which probably would be too long I think.
The green and red mockups lock good already

[bebuxe]

Wait what Round 4? Is there a group buy that I am missing that is selling the Glider?

And >is for green text.
What terminal uses > or shell for that matter?

[Djuzuh]

Wait what Round 4? Is there a group buy that I am missing that is selling the Glider?

And >is for green text.
What terminal uses > or shell for that matter?

yes.

But there are no lines in the glider key. It's just the circles.

[bebuxe]

WHERE IS IT?!?

[Djuzuh]

Group buy round 4.

A huge group buy, very messy, with unbearable delay.

7bit's organising it. There is a thread on DT and on GH.

[bebuxe]

If you mean these two:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20485.0
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html
I am not seeing a Glider key.
But I did miss round 3's Lotus

[Djuzuh]

Lotus keys are in the GB, and so are the glider keys.

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round4_Pricelist

that's the best way to see that's available imo.

[Findecanor]

Doesn't Round3 (and Round3 in the current Round4) have one?

No. Not left-justified. Signature Plastics' font and bottom row profile is different profile from Cherry's.

[bebuxe]

They all say n/a. I sent an email anyways.

Whatever this is the Unix/Linus KB set. Anyone like any of my ideas?

Read a return 0;, and I know I need to do $█ and Dennis Ritchie. And if you did not get my "!" and "?", "!" means I motion this to be in. "?" means should this be even considered (not in my motion).

Should Inkscape  be includes ? , Libre Office ? (so against it), any other special characters or control characters,  other jokes? (i.e. kill, nuke, UDP () {}), legendary emotions?, TeX?, CSS?, HTML? (against too), MySQL dolphin, etc.......

[salmo]

It would be nice to have some ADM-3A style H,J,K, and L keys with arrows on them to go with the Vim escape keys.

Isn't that basically Round 3? 


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He meant that he wants arrows beneath the letters.

Ahhh I see - That is doable...is there much interest for those?

Yes!  Or maybe I should say I'd be in for a few sets of these.  I'm jealous of all the WASD gamer-types, and want my HJKL arrows. 
I also like the ^[  key and would get a couple of those.

[bebuxe]

>Salmo
You Know what, I never got that too. I either used the arrow keys or IJKL. Yeah, I mess up when I used JK as ↓↑ in games. I wonder if most game devs are Left handed, or just trolls.

EDIT:
I remember now why I used WASD. Famicom made my head hardwired for left hand movement, and right for action.

Would you like me to make them as triangles instead or <v^>? ↳↟.↟↵

[bebuxe]

Got pics and sources at http://  sirplzmysite.  net/finished_works/unix_keys/

You are welcome to edit, Including the Metadata.

Also there are templates at http://  sirplzmysite.  net/finished_works/
keycap.svg
keycap_white.svg

PLEASE, CAREFUL OF THE BANDWIDTH. Download once, and enjoy.

[älg]

The root shell should be red in my opinion:

The underscore of the normal shell looks longer than the one of the root shell. The vertical distance between the lower end of the # and the underscore seems wider on the root shell as well. Is this an optical illusion?

[bebuxe]

>älg
No, you are correct. I used another Font for root since # looked horrible on Arial. I think I used Sans or something. But granted, root will be red.

I am also trying to remember what others I needed to do that I thought while making these quick ones.

[sth]

arial sucks for anything print/manufactured -- it's a sloppy copy of a header font that should be used sparingly at best. there are much better typefaces designed for print out there

[bebuxe]

>sth
Agreed, but I am limited at the moment on the type of fonts I can use. You are welcome to edit. I would have loved using something like Courier, on any other mono-spaced font.

[sth]

for this project it may be prudent to use a font widely associated with linux/other unixalikes. maybe a bitstream vera variant?
even better would be an approximation of a bitmapped console font. i'll try to remember to play around with it when i get off work tonight.

[Djuzuh]

for this project it may be prudent to use a font widely associated with linux/other unixalikes. maybe a bitstream vera variant?
even better would be an approximation of a bitmapped console font. i'll try to remember to play around with it when i get off work tonight.

terminus?

[sth]

a lot of people hate terminus for some reason. i don't particularly like it but i am not opposed to it either.

[Djuzuh]

I don't know, but it's free of use, it's got a pretty geeky/8bit style, it's monospaced.

I don't know a lot of font that have those attributes.

[hashbaz]

I am in for most of the ideas in this thread.  I can do SVGs once we know what is real and what is pie in the sky.

[bebuxe]

UPDATES!

You know where to find the SVGs if you need them, and want to edit.
I think we need to start making a poll.

I had only Terminus, so I used that.

>hashbaz
*
can you do SVGs now?

*sauce: http://foodtrainers.blogspot.com/2011/12/pie-in-sky-and-other-food-for-thought.html

[dorkvader]

If you mean these two:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=20485.0
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html
I am not seeing a Glider key.
But I did miss round 3's Lotus

I am pretty sure 7bit dropped the glider from round4 after I canceled my 100 orders. I believe there was only minimal support after that.

I'd def. be down for many redhat and fedora dyesubs.

[bebuxe]

>dorkvader
NOPE.GIF
I already got NOIR/GLIDER comming, and more. You can read the thread there.

But fedora/redhat, meh. You are still welcome to use my templates to make them though. I should technically do a OpenSUSE, but I am not interest enough. Or Debian FTM.

>et al.
NO ONE WANTS rm -rf!!! I am in shock GH.
I still plan to do dmr when I have serious free time. Customer's here do not give me the time.

EDIT: taking notes on Oakland and OCR.

[bebuxe]

Help me decide. I do not like terminus:
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Codename-Coder-Free-4F
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/CPMono_v07
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/fontom-type/skyhook-mono/
http://www.fontspace.com/carl-osterwald/profontwindows

[Matt3o]

my vote goes to CPMONO_V07 light or plain. Pretty nice typeface I'd say

[modulor]

Looking forward to this GB.  I understand that the set should be more 'generic' but I do support the LM key if it's possible.  It is the second most popular distro atm (and what I'm currently using) Keep the ideas coming!

Linux Mint mod key without the other graphic effects in there and just the white DS part

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[bebuxe]

Bah, I am still in shock that LM is actually #1 in distrowatch. I would have thought it be Fedora or RedHat. Oh_well.png

One vote for CPMono_v07

[digitalleftovers]

Needs a crunch bang key (#!), more for its ubiquitous-ness than for the distro.

[drteeth]

I doubt I'll be ordering any of these for the moment but the topic certainly interests me. My non-buying vote for font goes to the CPMono font. Nice!

[sth]

there's always the drafting font that SP has. closest i have found is called osifont.

[bebuxe]

Two votes on CPMono. It is official.

>digitalleftovers
I asked for Shebang, and no one responded. I guess a one vote. But I am not interested on it.

>drteeth
Welcome aboard. We are still in the design and implementation phase. Have a look around and help out if you like. I do not think we will be making orders yet. We are trying to make this an entire keyset.

>sth
I LOVE CARBON PRINTED RASTER FONTS! But osifont looks bad for $_ #_. I think I might actually make the blocks instead.

>et al.
FYI, I have been busy with work, that I have not made dmr yet, or any other. So I apologize.

[salmo]

Toss another vote in the #! column.  I like that the best.

[sth]

>sth
I LOVE CARBON PRINTED RASTER FONTS! But osifont looks bad for $_ #_. I think I might actually make the blocks instead.

fair, i hadn't checked out those glyphs. but have you seen the legit red alert sets that sixty orchestrated? the legends on the num row are beautiful and give a good idea of what SP's standard stuff is capable of looking like.

[jdcarpe]

Isotherm

[sth]

DERP thanks

[i3oilermaker]

I'm struggling with getting these $ and # keys to work with the constraints of a doubleshot key.

I am thinking that I will work on these a bit more, but delay the GB a bit as I there are some other great keys I want to get going soon.

[bebuxe]

Thanks i3oilermaker, for telling to make these as blocks.

>sth
Actually, I did not like the red alert ones. The Bold or thickness reminded me valentine candies. They did not look like a raster what-so-ever.

>et al.
Ugh, shebang goes I guess.