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Title: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: jacky on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:29:26
Hi everyone,hope you all were safe and good !


This is jacky ,i`ve been open the GB (S7 - elephant)https://reurl.cc/V67o7Z (https://reurl.cc/V67o7Z) .For this big boy i

want say is very hard work in every process But it almost done finally, so i am show this keyboard here .

Bear 65% ergo, which features ergo and keycaps compatibility from Alice layout, and adds arrow keys for people like you who may prefer 65% over 60%, with the satisfying typing experience via gasket mounting system, and most important of all: the 'bear' logo on top and bear claw on the back!
Below were some photos of Bear

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716343724678053971/723835316187693076/unknown.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BTymmyC.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/w0R6IDt.png)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/55ZJEnz.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/w3xuzRq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/7JrjXdf.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/HYSTfAU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/RtvcNTT.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jDIQm1i.png)



Features:
6063 Alu /7 degree/hotswap pcb /price start at $380/200 slot       
                     

The face of keyboard engraved a 'bear' logo,back of was claw  :D

If you have any suggestion please leave you comment,i am a new maker on geekhack you suggestion was important to me


IC form for this buy :https://cutt.ly/GyKbnv7 (https://cutt.ly/GyKbnv7)


Thanks in advance and thanks to some friends help,make or break and E



Updated here :


Interest checks result

most of peope request below :

PCB: QMK/Via /Solder pcb/split backspace/typec/middle port/

case change : no bear logo options /full claws weight like elephant / fix the engraved letters ,e instead of bear .

color request :rose gold /silver/grey/e white

others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details .

about weight .it will like elephant, full kit include brass weight no need upgrade but price will add since we do full brass claws


1.add typec usb port
(https://i.imgur.com/dU9T1Oa.png)
2.remove logo on the top case (two options,have bear logo and no logo )
(https://i.imgur.com/TROISME.png)
3.gasket mount features and full brass weight like elephant
(https://i.imgur.com/sQnwABe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gbZZX2t.jpg)
4.desk mat options ,thanks to my friends help!(which one would be good ?)
(https://i.imgur.com/jLB1qcb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LoLnjGk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Lyi9PRa.jpg)
Let me know you opinion,if not have much different voice then we go move to do prototypes .



Updated on 20/6.move to do prototypes :

all settle down

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716343724678053971/723835316187693076/unknown.png)

updated :6/22 2020
Layout

(https://i.imgur.com/nW1Ov3V.png)

Updated :7/7 2020


Case material choices:

1)    Founder’s Edition (FE): full brass (10 units, numbered #1-10). Will be sold through a raffle. Price: around $680

2)    Regular edition (non-FE): PC and Aluminum (Around 200 units). Will be sold FCFS through a Google form.Price: around $380 (default kit with a brass weight)

Case colors:

New coating: baby blue, pink, e-white
Anodizing: black, silver

Plate materials:  PC, brass, Aluminum.

Plate colors:     TBD


Shipping ETA: 3-4 months after GB closing date, 6 months max, assuming there are not issues with QC, I may hire a few people to help me out with that.

Q&A
How to buy?

I will post a link to a Google form when the time comes on the Bear GB thread and on my Discord channel.

What time zone are you going to use?

EDT (Eastern Daylight Time)

Can I choose different colors for top and bottom of my case?

Yes but only for aluminum case .

Will you limit this board one per person?

No.

What payment options do you accept?

PayPal only. Invoice should be paid within 48 hours of receiving it. If the invoice is not paid by then, it will be canceled and your spot will go to the next person on the waiting list.

Can I change the details of my order later?

I will release the form before GB opens. Please make sure to study it and decide on all options. We will accept only one change after you submit your form so please make sure you choose wisely the first time.

If you need more info, please let me know


Updatd :10/7 2020.

(https://i.imgur.com/vwehzzH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bv5TmNa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8ZxT9r9.jpg)


For baby blue / pink color, we will try a brand new way of coating: skin-like coating (a.k.a. "new coating" that I mentioned in previous communication), which is different than regular coating (powder or cerakote). The finish of this "new coating" will be matte instead of glossy, and it will be really smooth (like skin) when you touch it. In addition, via this "new coating", we can achieve better consisitency for the color of top and bottom cases (if you choose the same color for top and bottom).

Disclaimer: The baby blue / pink color in the render is based on anodized aluminum, while the way we did in prototype and we will do in production for these two colors will NOT be traditional anodizing. Therefore, you will not expect to have the exact same baby blue / pink color as the render. If you are not sure about this "new coating" (only for baby blue / pink), you can always choose anodized silver, anodized black, e-white, and polycarbonate, which are awesome choices as well.

Thanks everyone ,later days my friend will send more photos to me ill post on the discord .







Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: yoot on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:30:48
Great looking layout. I'm definitely in!

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jacky on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:31:24
Reserved

5/31/2020

Get some suggetsion

1.add solder pcb

2.type c cable
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Ulliam on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:31:59
You had me at that engraving.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:36:16
Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: zekth on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:39:30
Isn't it more a 65% than a 60%? I mean there is all the keys of a 65% percent in here.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: 2003987 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:43:14
What's your timeline?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: woyaodapian on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:44:06
Definitely liking the blue there. In for sure for the blue!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: FunBox on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:49:21
ISO support? :)

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: olivia on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:50:01
The bear is so cute 😻
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: rowie on Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:55:33
Wish there was a rose gold version. I have too many e-white keyboards now.  :)
ETA: I’m in for PC at the very least.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: vi0till on Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:00:54
Need solder pcb at least please. Would love to see green color for the case.

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:12:10
This needs to have a non hotswap/solderable PCB option
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:22:45
need solderble PCB
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:24:41
Solderable PCB please.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: wildcat on Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:38:34
Cuuuute 😻
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:40:15
This is the first time I got tricked into an Alice layout when seeing the title is ergo
Oh well
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: sctang on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:15:45
Love the design!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: rabbbit on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:42:47
absolutely in, we should have EU vendor

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:44:11
Interesting! Best of luck moving this forward
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:49:34
Can I base the decision on buying a board solely on the fact it has a cute bear logo
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: ogp3 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 16:31:23
Can I base the decision on buying a board solely on the fact it has a cute bear logo

wondering the same thing...  ;)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: kidpid on Sat, 30 May 2020, 17:13:21
I feel like the single key on the right looks a little out of place. Have you considered doing a mirror of the left key cluster?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: TheMilkmen on Sat, 30 May 2020, 18:42:44
I feel like the single key on the right looks a little out of place. Have you considered doing a mirror of the left key cluster?
I like this idea, but also something like a rotary encoder would look great there as another option.

Either way, not that bad of a design
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 30 May 2020, 20:18:15
Can I base the decision on buying a board solely on the fact it has a cute bear logo

Yes, yes you can.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Swishy on Sat, 30 May 2020, 20:21:51
I can't wait I really like this board
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jacky on Sat, 30 May 2020, 22:34:31
Get some suggetsion

1.add solder pcb

2.type c cable
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: KeepCalm27 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 22:46:29
Nice design!
Maybe consider adding several tiny holes on the left (or right) to indicate the layor (or capslock).
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: hkhawk on Sat, 30 May 2020, 23:35:15
Looks really great
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: eyedrop on Sun, 31 May 2020, 00:18:06
ISO support? :)

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You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Puncus on Sun, 31 May 2020, 03:24:13
I hadn't been interested in an alice like board so far but this certainly got me.
plus you get a cute bear
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: heartbreak on Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:22:28
Another alice layout doesn’t hurt
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jacky on Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:28:07
need solderble PCB
Add in.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: vi0till on Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:30:02
need solderble PCB
Add in.
Type C and QMK i assume?

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: Shiro on Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:38:20
omg i love the bear, though wouldnt this be the Bear 65%? it has the arrow keys.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: mrkantz on Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:57:21
I'm in as long as the PCB supports split backspace. Looks great Jacky!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: dlavelle94 on Sun, 31 May 2020, 12:03:46
In for the bear, following.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jacky on Sun, 31 May 2020, 12:24:02
Does anyone interested in Full brass edition?:[
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: yoot on Sun, 31 May 2020, 13:46:08
Does anyone interested in Full brass edition?:[
That would be cool if it was PVD coated

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 31 May 2020, 13:53:00
You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.

Why not? Edit: I'll answer myself - because the Enter and Backslash keys don't align verically.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: duckadence on Sun, 31 May 2020, 14:27:50
Looks awesome! Always wanted an Alice layout, but lack of arrow keys always drove me away.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: ecbob on Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:58:17
Is it possible to buy without the front engraving?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: FunBox on Sun, 31 May 2020, 18:04:41
Edit: deleted as to not de-rail the thread
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jimboytacos on Mon, 01 June 2020, 01:42:11
Is it possible to buy without the front engraving?

Also Would be interested without the bear logo on the bottom right. 
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: LemonyA on Mon, 01 June 2020, 07:50:09
Super interested!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: willdta on Mon, 01 June 2020, 08:57:22
Sick looking board. Definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: QQuanQuan on Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:17:07
1.solder PCB
2.Could you please move the little bear pattern to right side or down-left or remove it at all?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: heliar_mk on Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:35:07
1.solder PCB
2.Could you please move the little bear pattern to right side or down-left or remove it at all?
remove the bear +1
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: yoot on Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:41:57
1.solder PCB
2.Could you please move the little bear pattern to right side or down-left or remove it at all?
The bear makes the keyboard cute but I agree with the placement changes

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: vosechu on Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:23:23
If you do a column stagger next I’ll be in. My hands can’t handle row stagger.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: LINdp on Mon, 01 June 2020, 21:26:17
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: brenbread on Mon, 01 June 2020, 23:42:12
very very interested in this!!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jacky on Tue, 02 June 2020, 11:56:34
What's your timeline?
Plan on prototype GB may start mid of june
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jacky on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:05:45
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

(https://i.imgur.com/1t1KCuK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/9uGdj2t.jpg)

looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: alphabirth on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:28:56
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1t1KCuK.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9uGdj2t.jpg)


looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:42:29
You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.

Why not? Edit: I'll answer myself - because the Enter and Backslash keys don't align verically.

OK, but if you look at the Virgo by Flex and you get rid of the TKL part, you can get ISO on an alice type layout - although I do prefer the look of ansi on those boards
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: yoot on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:59:59
What's your timeline?
Plan on prototype GB may start mid of june
Will it be public? I'm down for buying a prototype.

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: dlavelle94 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 13:10:55
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1t1KCuK.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9uGdj2t.jpg)


looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: vi0till on Tue, 02 June 2020, 13:51:26
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1t1KCuK.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9uGdj2t.jpg)


looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
+1

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: chickenballs on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:14:27
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1t1KCuK.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9uGdj2t.jpg)


looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
I like the top render too

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: chickenballs on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:20:20
I know it might be hard to give an approximation but what's the expected timeline for this board?

The Maja is similar and available soon but I definitely prefer this one. I want to know if I should wait for this one or not.



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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: piit79 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:32:39
You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.

Why not? Edit: I'll answer myself - because the Enter and Backslash keys don't align verically.

OK, but if you look at the Virgo by Flex and you get rid of the TKL part, you can get ISO on an alice type layout - although I do prefer the look of ansi on those boards
The Virgo has a different layout - the right edges of the Enter and Backslash keys in the ANSI layout are aligned. Here they're staggered, so they cannot be replaced by an ISO Enter.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: rabbbit on Tue, 02 June 2020, 15:43:23
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1t1KCuK.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9uGdj2t.jpg)


looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
I like the top render too

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me too

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:16:00
You can't really have ISO support in an alice type layout.

Why not? Edit: I'll answer myself - because the Enter and Backslash keys don't align verically.

OK, but if you look at the Virgo by Flex and you get rid of the TKL part, you can get ISO on an alice type layout - although I do prefer the look of ansi on those boards
The Virgo has a different layout - the right edges of the Enter and Backslash keys in the ANSI layout are aligned. Here they're staggered, so they cannot be replaced by an ISO Enter.

Oh I know, I was just stating that it was technically possible, but required some work.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jollyeskimo on Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:34:18
Definitely need solder PCB, but looks good layout-wise.

Maybe make the logos on the top optional? Not feeling how either of those bear renders look.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jedidood on Tue, 02 June 2020, 18:38:36
I am very interested, but I think spacing out the arrow keys maybe better.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: DERBS on Tue, 02 June 2020, 21:34:47
Would you consider making the bottom row more uniform/straight like the Lisa layout?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount
Post by: jacky on Wed, 03 June 2020, 11:08:53
should move the bear logo to above the right arrow key

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1t1KCuK.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9uGdj2t.jpg)


looks a bit weird ,our theme was the bear raise up head and thinking ,it seem like look forward something  :D
The suggestion of bear on the far left side might look okay.  Also, an OLED screen above the right arrow would make this next level!

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I definitely prefer the top render
I like the top render too

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me too

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+1 top render
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: jacky on Wed, 03 June 2020, 11:10:16
(https://i.imgur.com/jDIQm1i.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/BTymmyC.png)

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: adamjohari on Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:26:35
Yeah agree that the Bear logo being vertical doesn't seem suited at that spot. But I'm not a designer so maybe I'm in the minority in this.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:30:47
I do prefer the top render as well :)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: chickenballs on Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:59:42
Maybe the reason some people don't like the bear at the bottom of the board is because it is too close to the edge and keys without leaving any natural space around it. Maybe making the logo a bit smaller would help with that. Does that make sense ?

I think the location is good but maybe it feels a bit too cluttered?

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:33:03
Maybe the reason some people don't like the bear at the bottom of the board is because it is too close to the edge and keys without leaving any natural space around it. Maybe making the logo a bit smaller would help with that. Does that make sense ?

I think the location is good but maybe it feels a bit too cluttered?

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Hmmm... I can see that - could it be scaled down a little bit? That might help :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: youreyesonly on Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:45:52
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: TibtibThePrincess on Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:47:45
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol
This would definitely look better but it would increase the price by a lot since the whole paw will be a big piece of brass

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: obosob on Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:16:46
Alice is a ****ing trash keyboard with the all time worst set of compromises to ergonomics.

While the Alice splits, it fails to address the row stagger problem (either by getting rid of it like Ergodoxes or reversing it on the left hand like the Topre ergo board) and fails to introduce any significant columnular stagger.

I can forgive boards like the standard Microsoft ergo boards for this because they keep everything in place such that it could be used by someone expecting their computer to be used by several people without causing any interruption to anyone's muscle memory. But the Alice changes enough of the thumb use to spoil any general public usability gains. What's left is a half measure of a committment that goes far enough to make turning back difficult but not far enough to do any real good.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: obosob on Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:21:16
On a more serious note, consider adding support for split left shift so people can do angle mod and make it a little more ergo (also gaining the two B keys as completely spare harder-to-reach keys for extra functionality)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: myflowsocold on Wed, 03 June 2020, 17:20:14
Also super interested in this - I can never have enough Alice layouts. But please we need a non hotswap solder pcb :)


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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: myflowsocold on Wed, 03 June 2020, 17:21:24
Alice is a ****ing trash keyboard with the all time worst set of compromises to ergonomics.

While the Alice splits, it fails to address the row stagger problem (either by getting rid of it like Ergodoxes or reversing it on the left hand like the Topre ergo board) and fails to introduce any significant columnular stagger.

I can forgive boards like the standard Microsoft ergo boards for this because they keep everything in place such that it could be used by someone expecting their computer to be used by several people without causing any interruption to anyone's muscle memory. But the Alice changes enough of the thumb use to spoil any general public usability gains. What's left is a half measure of a committment that goes far enough to make turning back difficult but not far enough to do any real good.
Maybe don't buy it then?


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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 03 June 2020, 18:17:59
I mean if your looking for ergo Alice is not ergo. Know the thread title says it is, but it's really not. Luckily as said, there are other options out there.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: jacky on Thu, 04 June 2020, 02:07:12
Maybe the reason some people don't like the bear at the bottom of the board is because it is too close to the edge and keys without leaving any natural space around it. Maybe making the logo a bit smaller would help with that. Does that make sense ?

I think the location is good but maybe it feels a bit too cluttered?

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Hmmm... I can see that - could it be scaled down a little bit? That might help :D

Okay will adjust it a bit small and see how it look like
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: jacky on Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:40:44
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol
This would definitely look better but it would increase the price by a lot since the whole paw will be a big piece of brass

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Correct ,the price will upgrade and cnc work
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: suorindrop on Thu, 04 June 2020, 18:11:24
take my money, im in.

I like hot swap, but the only thing id want added is split right backspace
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: youreyesonly on Thu, 04 June 2020, 18:25:55
Is it possible to make the whole bear paw the weight? Not really a fan of the weight only being the inner part of the paw, just looks off to me.  I think the entire paw being the weight will make it pop more and automatically connect it to a bear paw rather than having to look twice to see what it is. Maybe its just me lol
This would definitely look better but it would increase the price by a lot since the whole paw will be a big piece of brass

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yes i know it would increase the price but i think its something most would not mind paying. maybe take away the engraving of "Bear 60" since i know that is an extra cost to make the full bear claw a weight.  I just love heavy keebs like everyone else and that weight seems so small and would barely add weight to a PC keeb which is already light.  Maybe add it on the IC if anything.
Correct ,the price will upgrade and cnc work
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: xkhol on Fri, 05 June 2020, 00:28:44
Any chance of an option with no bear logo at all?


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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: BuddhaBen on Fri, 05 June 2020, 00:32:05
I agree . At least make the brass weight comparable to the size of the elephant weight. Whole paw but sized down. I wouldn't mind the extra costs
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: davisthegreat on Fri, 05 June 2020, 01:39:40
Love this - open more slots if possible, keep the bear, love the bear. Non hot swap PCB please and thank you
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: Hanabi on Fri, 05 June 2020, 05:12:38
Love this, very interested.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 05 June 2020, 07:27:16
Yeah. Would love this with solder able PCB for split backspace. Otherwise it looks pretty awesome as is!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: jacky on Fri, 05 June 2020, 07:33:50
Okay,i will close the ic form on Monday then sort the suggestion and update it one by one ,

I will post the news let you know what we can do and not ,finally we move to do some prototype  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 05 June 2020, 08:32:32
anyone thinks having indicator lights like alice would be useful?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 05 June 2020, 12:37:56
anyone thinks having indicator lights like alice would be useful?

Maybe??? I mean with it being a 65 i doubt you'd layer much. So it'd probably be for like caps lock and such. per-key RGB or at least for caps + windowed keycap would be tight.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: mrkantz on Fri, 05 June 2020, 15:56:04
Not against having lights, but I'll never use them
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: Yumelon on Sat, 06 June 2020, 01:11:34
yes
Also solder pcb version if possible.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: pleasega on Sun, 07 June 2020, 07:16:14
hope this happens faster!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: Raptor_N60 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 09:04:51
The short link in the op is broken.

As for the logo, is it possible to re-design a "horizontal" logo to get better spacing? For example a bear on its belly, you can also make it look up to match your theme :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: pleasega on Sun, 07 June 2020, 12:08:43
is there underglow for the pc version?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: jacky on Mon, 08 June 2020, 07:29:35
is there underglow for the pc version?
Yes,it will have rge led on the back of pcb
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: rabbbit on Mon, 08 June 2020, 08:57:20
Okay,i will close the ic form on Monday then sort the suggestion and update it one by one ,

I will post the news let you know what we can do and not ,finally we move to do some prototype  :thumb:
great, cant wait

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: jacky on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:03:26
The short link in the op is broken.

As for the logo, is it possible to re-design a "horizontal" logo to get better spacing? For example a bear on its belly, you can also make it look up to match your theme :thumb:
Fixed.

btw, ic form already closed, i will sort it tmr. :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: Retne on Tue, 09 June 2020, 14:49:32
I like the bear.  I'm definitely interested in seeing where you go with this.  I've been on the lookout for a gasket mounted Alice style board.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: jacky on Wed, 10 June 2020, 08:06:52
Interest checks result

most of peope request below :

PCB: QMK/Via /Solder pcb/split backspace/typec/middle port/

case change : no bear logo options /full claws weight like elephant / fix the engraved letters ,e instead of bear .

color request :rose gold /silver/grey/e white

others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details .

about weight .it will like elephant, full kit include brass weight no need upgrade but price will add since we do full brass claws

If there was no much objection then we go move -

next step change the design and show it ,after that move to do some prototypes !!

Thanks all advise

Soon ;D


You could also join my discord get the fast news  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(New renders )
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 10 June 2020, 08:08:42
Interest checks result

most of peope request below :

PCB: QMK/Via /Solder pcb/split backspace/typec/middle port/

case change : no bear logo options /full claws weight like elephant / fix the engraved letters ,e instead of bear .

color request :rose gold /silver/grey/e white

others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details .

about weight .it will like elephant, full kit include brass weight no need upgrade but price will add since we do full brass claws

If there was no much objection then we go move -

next step change the design and show it ,after that move to do some prototypes !!

Thanks all advise

Soon ;D

As long as the PCB is QMK/Via and I have an option to have the bear, I am happy.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: macclack on Wed, 10 June 2020, 08:42:46
This is adorable
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: vi0till on Wed, 10 June 2020, 08:56:39
Interest checks result

most of peope request below :

PCB: QMK/Via /Solder pcb/split backspace/typec/middle port/

case change : no bear logo options /full claws weight like elephant / fix the engraved letters ,e instead of bear .

color request :rose gold /silver/grey/e white

others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details .

about weight .it will like elephant, full kit include brass weight no need upgrade but price will add since we do full brass claws

If there was no much objection then we go move -

next step change the design and show it ,after that move to do some prototypes !!

Thanks all advise

Soon ;D


You could also join my discord get the fast news  :thumb:
Need your discord link sir.

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Wed, 10 June 2020, 09:25:25
Interest checks result

most of peope request below :

PCB: QMK/Via /Solder pcb/split backspace/typec/middle port/

case change : no bear logo options /full claws weight like elephant / fix the engraved letters ,e instead of bear .

color request :rose gold /silver/grey/e white

others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details .

about weight .it will like elephant, full kit include brass weight no need upgrade but price will add since we do full brass claws

If there was no much objection then we go move -

next step change the design and show it ,after that move to do some prototypes !!

Thanks all advise

Soon ;D


You could also join my discord get the fast news  :thumb:
Need your discord link sir.

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Here you go :https://discord.gg/rPhYygc (https://discord.gg/rPhYygc)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: gilbert on Wed, 10 June 2020, 09:26:31
Super cute board i am definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Sepharis on Wed, 10 June 2020, 10:05:18
I'm extremely interested in this board, but I must ask, will the hotswap support 5 pin switches or only 3 pin?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Wed, 10 June 2020, 11:22:23
I'm extremely interested in this board, but I must ask, will the hotswap support 5 pin switches or only 3 pin?
5 pin switches
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: nirvana549 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 11:28:20
Looking good, please keep full backspace for hotswap option :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: ogp3 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 11:45:37
Does "others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details" mean that PC will also be offered?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Bachoo on Thu, 11 June 2020, 00:36:15
This wont be the first, nor the last alice board i'll invest in :P
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: prizeS on Thu, 11 June 2020, 01:33:25
This wont be the first, nor the last alice board i'll invest in :P

gmk ishtar on bear?  :p
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 11 June 2020, 02:01:56
Looks sick, I don't own an Alice-eqsue board, and I would definitely jump on this if it weren't for my undying loyalty to the Majapahit.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: ninjacore on Thu, 11 June 2020, 07:55:59
I liked the Maja for a long time, but I think I prefer this layout.  It seems like it better-maintains the symmetry of the original Alice layout while adding arrows.  Certainly, to each their own, I just really like what you've done with this one, OP.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:04:06
I liked the Maja for a long time, but I think I prefer this layout.  It seems like it better-maintains the symmetry of the original Alice layout while adding arrows.  Certainly, to each their own, I just really like what you've done with this one, OP.
That said it still irks me that the case is not actually symmetric. I understand that the addition of arrows without removing some mod keys makes that impossible, but the slightly longer right side bugs me for some reason. Haha
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Sun, 14 June 2020, 09:58:57
I liked the Maja for a long time, but I think I prefer this layout.  It seems like it better-maintains the symmetry of the original Alice layout while adding arrows.  Certainly, to each their own, I just really like what you've done with this one, OP.

Glad to know that ,thanks  :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: FunBox on Sun, 14 June 2020, 10:10:41
About when are you hoping to Open this up for orders? Still trying to get used to my Prime_E. If I can convert I'd be interested in getting this :)

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 14 June 2020, 10:38:20
The Light Blue One Is So Beautiful!!  :-*
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: KZzzz on Sun, 14 June 2020, 11:19:06
I wonder if you can bring the delete key closer to the backspace and add another key under it so that the layout on the right side of the board matches the left side? The lone delete key in its position right now looks kinda odd imo.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 14 June 2020, 18:48:05
The Light Blue One Is So Beautiful!!  :-*
Didn't get too far into color in the IC but really hoping light blue shows up in the final. Would look great with the brass weight
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:20:06
New steps on bear :

1.add typec usb port
(https://i.imgur.com/dU9T1Oa.png)
2.remove logo on the top case (two options,have bear logo and no logo )
(https://i.imgur.com/TROISME.png)
3.gasket mount features and full brass weight like elephant
(https://i.imgur.com/gbZZX2t.jpg)
4.desk mat options ,thanks to my friends help!(which one would be good ?)
(https://i.imgur.com/jLB1qcb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LoLnjGk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Lyi9PRa.jpg)
Let me know you opinion,if not have much different voice then we go move to do prototypes .

Keep safe and have a nice day  :thumb:






Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:21:25
Still mat #3 for me.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:22:00
No more bear?! Stupid as it is, I might drop out because of that :(
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: razor_blade on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:24:05
Looks great!, I'm for keeping a smaller bear or no bear at all. I'm all in with this.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:24:10
No more bear?! Stupid as it is, I might drop out because of that :(
We have two options,you can choose it have bear or not  :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: yoot on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:26:33
I really like mat #2. It is the cleanest mat of the bunch imo

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Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:28:27
No more bear?! Stupid as it is, I might drop out because of that :(
We have two options,you can choose it have bear or not  :D

My hero! I thought you removed it completely!


Edit: Deskmat #1 is the cleanest in my opinion, I love it :)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:52:45
Does "others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details" mean that PC will also be offered?
Sure
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: bigern302 on Mon, 15 June 2020, 13:35:41
MAT #1
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: domoshi on Mon, 15 June 2020, 14:59:09
Mat #1!

Will there be any RGB per key or underglow?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: prizeS on Mon, 15 June 2020, 16:42:57
Mat 1 works the best; most neutral one of the three.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: heliar_mk on Mon, 15 June 2020, 19:21:40
mat1 looks good
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: EmergencyPerspective on Mon, 15 June 2020, 20:31:17
Mat 1 for sure
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: asianfork on Mon, 15 June 2020, 21:03:29
Very very interested indeed! The bear is so cute. Deskmat 1 is more of my style.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Yumelon on Mon, 15 June 2020, 21:19:02
are we still able to get a right side bear logo?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: fabijolo on Mon, 15 June 2020, 23:59:09
Nice, for me it's definitely either No. 1 or 3 (if I had to chose, I think I'd probably go with No. 3)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: hkhawk on Tue, 16 June 2020, 00:15:43
What kind of a monster wouldn't want the bear logo?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: suorindrop on Tue, 16 June 2020, 00:38:18
mat 1 or 2
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: vaf1en on Tue, 16 June 2020, 03:49:56
What kind of a monster wouldn't want the bear logo?
Anyone over the age of 20. ;)

I vote for mats #2 and #3.
Will buy both if they are made available.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 16 June 2020, 03:59:10
What kind of a monster wouldn't want the bear logo?
Anyone over the age of 20. ;)

I vote for mats #2 and #3.
Will buy both if they are made available.

Hello, I'm 29 going on 30 and I want a bear there, any problem with that? :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: bigern302 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 04:06:40
What kind of a monster wouldn't want the bear logo?
Anyone over the age of 20. ;)


Going on 40.  I need the bear. 
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: ninjacore on Tue, 16 June 2020, 06:39:30
What kind of a monster wouldn't want the bear logo?
Anyone over the age of 20. ;)

I vote for mats #2 and #3.
Will buy both if they are made available.

This guy desks
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Tue, 16 June 2020, 09:22:57
are we still able to get a right side bear logo?
i have already do a render for it ,looks like not good so we cancel this .
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Carpelos on Tue, 16 June 2020, 10:46:43
Oh Alice, here we go again. Hope this time you treat me right.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Wed, 17 June 2020, 12:00:06
Move to prototypes .

and go for mat #1

we will see all case after a week  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: DERBS on Wed, 17 June 2020, 13:57:29
All it needs is for the bottom rows on each side to be straight like the Lisa layout and it would be perfect!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: Marco071 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 19:32:35
Ow man, This looks perfect. Hope eveything goes well.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(IC form result )
Post by: jacky on Fri, 19 June 2020, 12:38:49
All it needs is for the bottom rows on each side to be straight like the Lisa layout and it would be perfect!
Layout was settle down,already send factory do the prototypes . :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: stein3 on Sat, 20 June 2020, 00:26:42
Interest checks result

most of peope request below :

PCB: QMK/Via /Solder pcb/split backspace/typec/middle port/

case change : no bear logo options /full claws weight like elephant / fix the engraved letters ,e instead of bear .

color request :rose gold /silver/grey/e white

others : PC case and pc plate /show the gasket details .
So transitioning from hotswap to solder?

As long as the PCB is QMK/Via and I have an option to have the bear, I am happy.
This. I have to have the bear. The e-white render with the enameled bear looks fantastic. I'd even be willing to fill it myself after anodization.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: aidankim27 on Sat, 20 June 2020, 00:33:45
Is this going to GB?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Sat, 20 June 2020, 10:49:49
Is this going to GB?
Ready to GB

Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Water lee on Sat, 20 June 2020, 11:17:37
When GB comes
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 20 June 2020, 20:21:33
Always wanted an Alice with arrows. I'd be down!

Any other colors planned? (Sorry if I missed that info earlier)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Neroctel on Sun, 21 June 2020, 02:03:32
yeah i'm all in, take my money
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sun, 21 June 2020, 05:21:08
I think that the bear logo made your board looks so cute.
I was really discrete and refined IMO. Nice that this is still an option
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Sun, 21 June 2020, 11:28:47
I think that the bear logo made your board looks so cute.
I was really discrete and refined IMO. Nice that this is still an option

Tk tk
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Sun, 21 June 2020, 11:29:19
Layout

(https://i.imgur.com/nW1Ov3V.png)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Mon, 22 June 2020, 13:01:43
When GB comes
Wait the prototype finished
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Tue, 23 June 2020, 11:40:33
(https://i.imgur.com/HQVF84S.jpg)

Bear !
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Starston3 on Tue, 23 June 2020, 11:45:05
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HQVF84S.jpg)


Bear !
Cute
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Jinho on Tue, 23 June 2020, 11:46:18
best alice + arrow cluster design so far imo

aesthetic is still elegant without cluttering the layout and making it chunky and gross
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:42:35
best alice + arrow cluster design so far imo

aesthetic is still elegant without cluttering the layout and making it chunky and gross
I am get  used to arrow
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 23 June 2020, 20:12:34
When GB? Soon? What is soon ? :D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 23 June 2020, 20:17:28
Also will hotswap option still is or not?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Wed, 24 June 2020, 11:01:58
Also will hotswap option still is or not?
Available
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Puhzuzu on Wed, 24 June 2020, 21:54:01
100% interested in this after finding out about it on Apiary's twitch. When/where is the GB????
Also, would be super interested in the purple desk pad
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Thu, 25 June 2020, 12:11:27
100% interested in this after finding out about it on Apiary's twitch. When/where is the GB????
Also, would be super interested in the purple desk pad
July ,Gb on Geekhack
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: ecbob on Thu, 25 June 2020, 13:50:02
O wait will there be a black color?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: LuckyBoiz on Fri, 26 June 2020, 10:47:56
So we'll have to try to get a spot on Geekhack? I really want this but never GB'ed on geek hack
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: bigchili on Fri, 26 June 2020, 21:05:12
This looks amazing.. very interested
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: kanki0213 on Sat, 27 June 2020, 06:19:20
I love Bear!!
How much is the total weight before assembling??
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Sat, 27 June 2020, 11:16:17
About full brass edition

I will release 10 kits (Raffle), 680$ base kit with individual engraved numbers .(#1-#10)

Full brass finish(E clear,E white ,confirmed(Anodizing black or E black TBD,)

Here is pic of e black ,e white,brass e clear.
(https://i.imgur.com/EuHjHl4.jpg)




Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: asciisii on Sat, 27 June 2020, 18:08:37
Excited to see the GB start!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: Yumelon on Sat, 27 June 2020, 23:33:56
if im able to get in gb can i call #69? lol
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: beekey on Sun, 28 June 2020, 02:16:27
Is split backspace supported with the hot-swap PCB?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 28 June 2020, 05:04:53
I have lurked the entire time.  Superb looking design and layout.  This is a TGR Alice beater for sure.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Sun, 28 June 2020, 11:27:15
Is split backspace supported with the hot-swap PCB?
You may need solder pcb
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Wait prototypes)
Post by: jacky on Tue, 30 June 2020, 10:50:47
Already get prototypes, tmr will do one for E white color .

Color voting for bear !
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc7LtBylBVmX7522BA7mDI3yHKA2u3LDwsKP_AIDel7zLbLkw/viewform?usp=pp_url
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: LnrdOrtz on Wed, 01 July 2020, 00:01:56
Very interested in this design! GJ jacky
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: jacky on Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:39:43
Some pictures take by phone :

(https://i.imgur.com/eo9z60l.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gY6kc6G.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Cs0WM71.jpg)

Wait the e clear brass and baby blue,grey (Group buy SOOON
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:41:52
That looks really cute!!!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 01 July 2020, 11:38:07
Both of those images look great.  Nice finish on the ewhite
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: jacky on Thu, 02 July 2020, 07:32:56
Full brass edition and PC plate

(https://i.imgur.com/ITMHUik.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/kpfjlTI.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: jack47 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 08:49:05
Can't wait for this!!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 02 July 2020, 09:07:55
I didn't think I'd be that much into the e-white but it's gorgeous, and that PC plate has me excited as well!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: simulated_mangoes on Thu, 02 July 2020, 10:42:23
New to ergo - how many stabs would I need for this?

The light blue looks really good - super interested.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: Water lee on Thu, 02 July 2020, 11:22:23
New to ergo - how many stabs would I need for this?

The light blue looks really good - super interested.
Four or Five
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: zoo on Thu, 02 July 2020, 11:24:45
The bear logo is too cute
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: Anonymollusk on Thu, 02 July 2020, 14:53:27
Wait, so will this be an unlimited GB or only a few spots available?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: jylisondra on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:08:37
Wait, so will this be an unlimited GB or only a few spots available?

200 slots available
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: Anonymollusk on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:33:02
Gotta get one of these holy smokes.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: hkhawk on Thu, 02 July 2020, 17:42:25
Some pictures take by phone :

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eo9z60l.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gY6kc6G.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Cs0WM71.jpg)


Wait the e clear brass and baby blue,grey (Group buy SOOON

Wow, that looks great
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: asianfork on Thu, 02 July 2020, 22:10:54
Can't wait to get the white! I'm glad that the bear isn't some odd colour and looks more like an engraving, makes it less messy looking imo
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: 2003987 on Fri, 03 July 2020, 03:58:02
Full brass edition and PC plate

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ITMHUik.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/kpfjlTI.jpg)


this is glorious omg
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: Eagle Bearer on Fri, 03 July 2020, 05:26:37
Created an account because of this. It looks really good, op! Hope I can join the gb  :)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: jacky on Fri, 03 July 2020, 09:08:39
Created an account because of this. It looks really good, op! Hope I can join the gb  :)
Everyone can join . :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: Kill on Fri, 03 July 2020, 13:20:02
Loving the look of this board, I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: Lockkkk on Sat, 04 July 2020, 06:37:18
When ?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: chakkii on Sat, 04 July 2020, 09:41:51
Will it also be possible to get colored "bear engraving" on the polycarbonate case? I love the colored ones on some of the renders, would love to get a light blue colored bear engraving on the PC case :)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: Mach1 on Sat, 04 July 2020, 16:34:33
Love the bear a lot,  instant cop for me but I hope I'll be able to get a spot in the GB!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(Color voting ,GB SOON )
Post by: KeebOnMe on Sat, 04 July 2020, 17:39:51
I really dig the badge and back plate, hope to get on the group buy!

Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB SOON )
Post by: zlalaman2 on Sun, 05 July 2020, 15:53:51
oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB SOON )
Post by: jacky on Mon, 06 July 2020, 12:35:42
GB time :

ETA :12-15th July.(undecided)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 06 July 2020, 13:28:41
Excited!!  Bears are finally out of the gate.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: chriszhu on Mon, 06 July 2020, 13:50:52
Exciting!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB SOON )
Post by: Eagle Bearer on Mon, 06 July 2020, 19:13:18
GB time :

ETA :12-15th July.(undecided)

I can't wait!  ;D

Also, are these the confirmed colors: rose gold /silver/grey/e white?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: Honey on Tue, 07 July 2020, 04:40:14
Any chance for the light blue to be a colour option?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:48:05
Any chance for the light blue to be a colour option?
It already in.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: Keyjus on Tue, 07 July 2020, 14:28:37
So no black case option?

Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 07 July 2020, 18:14:46
Wait so after few days GB opens ? Wow I love brass edition, pc edition and alu edition. Please sell me this board I really want this layout!  :) cheche

1. Sorry to ask this, but what material plates are decided to be made? Will there be alu?
2. Where GB will open, on GeekHack?
3. Does pcb has any kind of underglow, individual leds?
4. Can winner of full brass be a bit weird and get alu plate ? (for example, I love flex and brass body is nice)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Tue, 07 July 2020, 23:10:23
So no black case option?

Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk
Have Anodizing black
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Tue, 07 July 2020, 23:40:58
Wait so after few days GB opens ? Wow I love brass edition, I love pc edition, I love alu edition XD Please sell me this board I really want this layout!  :)

1. Sorry to ask this, but what material plates are decided to be made? Will there be alu?
2. Where GB will open, on GeekHack?
3. Does pcb has any kind of underglow, individual leds?
4. Can winner of full brass be a bit weird and get alu plate ? (for example, I love flex and brass body is nice)
GB will open next week probably
1.Alu,PC, Brass
2.Geekhack will have google form and discord service will post link too
3.RGB underglow ,but it seem make sense for pc case ,for alu case you cant see the rgb light
4.Full brass winner also can choose extra plate ,but default was brass cant be exchange .
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 07 July 2020, 23:46:17
Wait so after few days GB opens ? Wow I love brass edition, I love pc edition, I love alu edition XD Please sell me this board I really want this layout!  :)

1. Sorry to ask this, but what material plates are decided to be made? Will there be alu?
2. Where GB will open, on GeekHack?
3. Does pcb has any kind of underglow, individual leds?
4. Can winner of full brass be a bit weird and get alu plate ? (for example, I love flex and brass body is nice)
GB will open next week probably
1.Alu,PC, Brass
2.Geekhack will have google form and discord service have too
3.RGB underglow but it seem make sense for pc case ,for alu case you cant see the rgb light
4.Full brass winner also can choose extra plate ,but default was brass cant be exchange .

Ok thanks for the info. Now pc is also tempting option :)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 08 July 2020, 10:46:18
It is my birthday tomorrow, maybe the GB will be tomorrow and by the powers of the birthday gods I will get a slot.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: razor_blade on Wed, 08 July 2020, 10:58:45
I'm not sure if I missed it somewhere, but would you consider running a wrist-rest for it Jacky? I am impartial if it's poly-carbonate, wood, or aluminium.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:01:28
I'm not sure if I missed it somewhere, but would you consider running a wrist-rest for it Jacky? I am impartial if it's poly-carbonate, wood, or aluminium.
We will have wood ,but the option will be provide after Gb since too many things cant be handle right now  ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:37:37
Case material choices:

1)    Founder’s Edition (FE): full brass (10 units, numbered #1-10). Will be sold through a raffle. Price: around $680

2)    Regular edition (non-FE): PC and Aluminum (Around 200 units). Will be sold FCFS through a Google form.Price: around $380 (default kit with a brass weight)

Case colors:

New coating: baby blue, pink, e-white
Anodizing: black, silver

Plate materials:  PC, brass, Aluminum.

Plate colors:     TBD


Shipping ETA: 3-4 months after GB closing date, 6 months max, assuming there are not issues with QC, I may hire a few people to help me out with that.

Q&A
How to buy?

I will post a link to a Google form when the time comes on the Bear GB thread and on my Discord channel.

What time zone are you going to use?

EDT (Eastern Daylight Time)

Can I choose different colors for top and bottom of my case?

Yes but only for aluminum case .

Will you limit this board one per person?

No.

What payment options do you accept?

PayPal only. Invoice should be paid within 48 hours of receiving it. If the invoice is not paid by then, it will be canceled and your spot will go to the next person on the waiting list.

Can I change the details of my order later?

I will release the form before GB opens. Please make sure to study it and decide on all options. We will accept only one change after you submit your form so please make sure you choose wisely the first time.

Discord service can get news fast ! :D

If you need more info, please let me know
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: El_Jackador on Wed, 08 July 2020, 15:55:20
Aw shame the grey isn't in the GB! Looked amazing in the renders!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: domoshi on Wed, 08 July 2020, 16:42:12
Is there an example of how the polycarb looks with underglow?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: noorejji on Wed, 08 July 2020, 17:34:09
Hi Jacky. Do you have any rough estimates on shipping rates on the standard version to the various regions? I.e. EU, CONUS, etc. Will you be shipping from UK?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 08 July 2020, 17:54:22
Hi Jacky. Do you have any rough estimates on shipping rates on the standard version to the various regions? I.e. EU, CONUS, etc. Will you be shipping from UK?

jacky is based in Asia, so he's not shipping from the UK.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: noorejji on Wed, 08 July 2020, 21:26:32
Hi Jacky. Do you have any rough estimates on shipping rates on the standard version to the various regions? I.e. EU, CONUS, etc. Will you be shipping from UK?

jacky is based in Asia, so he's not shipping from the UK.
Oh, the location thing on his profile threw me off a bit there. If it's Asia shipping might not be too bad in any case. Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: tiffgu123 on Thu, 09 July 2020, 04:31:08
Will there be a gray color option or no?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Thu, 09 July 2020, 06:52:29
Will there be a gray color option or no?
Not available
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Thu, 09 July 2020, 10:04:32
Hi Jacky. Do you have any rough estimates on shipping rates on the standard version to the various regions? I.e. EU, CONUS, etc. Will you be shipping from UK?

jacky is based in Asia, so he's not shipping from the UK.
Oh, the location thing on his profile threw me off a bit there. If it's Asia shipping might not be too bad in any case. Thanks.
DHL from HK
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 09 July 2020, 10:10:17


Case colors:

New coating: baby blue, pink, e-white
Anodizing: black, silver

Plate materials:  PC, brass, Aluminum.

Plate colors:     TBD



My dream for the black case with pink plate lives on! fingers crossed!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: JCraftCables on Thu, 09 July 2020, 10:12:30
That is such a nice board!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:57:30
Updatd :7/10 2020. (Some thing need be more clear to each one )

(https://i.imgur.com/vwehzzH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bv5TmNa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8ZxT9r9.jpg)


For baby blue / pink color, we will try a brand new way of coating: skin-like coating (a.k.a. "new coating" that I mentioned in previous communication), which is different than regular coating (powder or cerakote). The finish of this "new coating" will be matte instead of glossy, and it will be really smooth (like skin) when you touch it. In addition, via this "new coating", we can achieve better consisitency for the color of top and bottom cases (if you choose the same color for top and bottom).

Disclaimer: The baby blue / pink color in the render is based on anodized aluminum, while the way we did in prototype and we will do in production for these two colors will NOT be traditional anodizing. Therefore, you will not expect to have the exact same baby blue / pink color as the render. If you are not sure about this "new coating" (only for baby blue / pink), you can always choose anodized silver, anodized black, e-white, and polycarbonate, which are awesome choices as well.

Thanks everyone ,later days my friend will send more photos to me ill post on the discord .
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: noorejji on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:31:09
Didn't know there was a seam on this board.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: ninjacore on Fri, 10 July 2020, 14:24:43
Didn't know there was a seam on this board.

Wasn't shown in any of the renders, tho this breakdown kinda hints at it:
https://i.imgur.com/gbZZX2t.jpg
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: chakkii on Fri, 10 July 2020, 14:27:52
Hm, i dont really like the new baby blue coating. it looks like a plastic case imo. The baby blue anodized in the first renders was an absolute beauty, that would be absolutely perfect. probably going with silver now or PC.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Fri, 10 July 2020, 23:23:37
Hm, i dont really like the new baby blue coating. it looks like a plastic case imo. The baby blue anodized in the first renders was an absolute beauty, that would be absolutely perfect. probably going with silver now or PC.
I thinks this blue better than renders one
(https://i.imgur.com/9E0wtca.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: KeebOnMe on Fri, 10 July 2020, 23:43:57
Hm, i dont really like the new baby blue coating. it looks like a plastic case imo. The baby blue anodized in the first renders was an absolute beauty, that would be absolutely perfect. probably going with silver now or PC.
I thinks this blue better than renders one
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9E0wtca.jpg)


I enjoy the final rendition more so, compared to the first one, but everything is preference!

Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: yoot on Sat, 11 July 2020, 06:34:55
Can the blue and pink come with the bear engraved on the top?

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Sat, 11 July 2020, 12:21:46
Can the blue and pink come with the bear engraved on the top?

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
It have .
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: prangano on Sat, 11 July 2020, 12:25:54
Does the new finish show fingerprints ?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Sat, 11 July 2020, 12:31:01
Does the new finish show fingerprints ?
No!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: hkhawk on Sat, 11 July 2020, 13:03:16
Updatd :7/10 2020. (Some thing need be more clear to each one )

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vwehzzH.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bv5TmNa.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8ZxT9r9.jpg)



For baby blue / pink color, we will try a brand new way of coating: skin-like coating (a.k.a. "new coating" that I mentioned in previous communication), which is different than regular coating (powder or cerakote). The finish of this "new coating" will be matte instead of glossy, and it will be really smooth (like skin) when you touch it. In addition, via this "new coating", we can achieve better consisitency for the color of top and bottom cases (if you choose the same color for top and bottom).

Disclaimer: The baby blue / pink color in the render is based on anodized aluminum, while the way we did in prototype and we will do in production for these two colors will NOT be traditional anodizing. Therefore, you will not expect to have the exact same baby blue / pink color as the render. If you are not sure about this "new coating" (only for baby blue / pink), you can always choose anodized silver, anodized black, e-white, and polycarbonate, which are awesome choices as well.

Thanks everyone ,later days my friend will send more photos to me ill post on the discord .

Love the blue, that finish looks so good!
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 60% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: chakkii on Sat, 11 July 2020, 14:35:57
Hm, i dont really like the new baby blue coating. it looks like a plastic case imo. The baby blue anodized in the first renders was an absolute beauty, that would be absolutely perfect. probably going with silver now or PC.
I thinks this blue better than renders one
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9E0wtca.jpg)


Its a nice blue to some for sure, but I was looking for a more subtle blue, so the more silver-ish light / baby blue from the renders was perfect for me personally :) it might be better for others tho, who wanted a more "blue-ish" case :)
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: tonyjones on Sun, 12 July 2020, 12:27:58
Wow that blue color is so neat, I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: Madrai on Sun, 12 July 2020, 15:23:57
Imagine doing google form FCFS and not limiting the amount per person *Looks at Primus*
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: mattling9 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 02:02:43
Can we get a burgandy/red anodisation option?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Mon, 13 July 2020, 04:51:13
Can we get a burgandy/red anodisation option?
Sry ,We have no those options
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Mon, 13 July 2020, 07:45:00
GB time : 7/15 2020 EDT 10:00 AM
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: El_Jackador on Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:10:26
GB time : 7/15 2020 EDT 10:00 AM

Where will the GB available from? A google form on geekhack?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB ETA 12-15th July.)
Post by: jacky on Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:12:29
GB time : 7/15 2020 EDT 10:00 AM

Where will the GB available from? A google form on geekhack?
Yes.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: jacky on Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:04:31
About quantity : https://bit.ly/2Ztqosh (https://bit.ly/2Ztqosh) fill the form i will see the result after 24hours ,a bit tired of talk about quantity ,let us do it fair .

i have been not sleep well almost a week,so please vote it then i can make choice easy ,this time you up !
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: asianfork on Mon, 13 July 2020, 12:35:09
Just to confirm on the Discord announcements (don't want to ruin the flow of the conversation currently happening in the channel), the FCFS starts at 11am? The raffle or whatever is at 10am?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: hkhawk on Mon, 13 July 2020, 18:53:49
I think I saw Jacky say somewhere that a Bear was being sent to a streamer in the US to build. Any updates on that?
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: Lufenia on Mon, 13 July 2020, 20:01:21
About quantity : https://bit.ly/2Ztqosh (https://bit.ly/2Ztqosh) fill the form i will see the result after 24hours ,a bit tired of talk about quantity ,let us do it fair .

i have been not sleep well almost a week,so please vote it then i can make choice easy ,this time you up !

What if you made it unlimited for let's say...the first one or two hours?

Not going to lie, missing this will make me feel worse than missing a keycult board.   
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: jacky on Mon, 13 July 2020, 20:28:40
About quantity : https://bit.ly/2Ztqosh (https://bit.ly/2Ztqosh) fill the form i will see the result after 24hours ,a bit tired of talk about quantity ,let us do it fair .

i have been not sleep well almost a week,so please vote it then i can make choice easy ,this time you up !

What if you made it unlimited for let's say...the first one or two hours?

Not going to lie, missing this will make me feel worse than missing a keycult board.

Nice idea.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: leexy on Mon, 13 July 2020, 22:04:30
first two minutes
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: solomonshv on Mon, 13 July 2020, 23:32:42
What if you made it unlimited for let's say...the first one or two hours?

Not going to lie, missing this will make me feel worse than missing a keycult board.

it will result in over 1000 orders. while it would be ideal for everyone to get a board, the logistics of manufacturing, QCing and delivering a single run of 1,000+ units is an actual nightmare that very few want to deal with. i personally would not do it. if i was running a GB like this, the absolute max i would deliver is 400 units, plus the inevitable b stock QC rejects.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: jacky on Tue, 14 July 2020, 12:02:53
Update: 7/14 2020

prototypes photo

More photo here :https://imgur.com/gallery/trR1PXv (https://imgur.com/gallery/trR1PXv)

(https://i.imgur.com/W1sVP1T.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1hH7B0H.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FwcRTBK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AngqVAb.jpg)

Typing video
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16z4y1D7bm/ (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16z4y1D7bm/)

Why there was short shift ,since pcb was new do this layout so it have issue ,it already fixed and we will do prototype again to test it perfectly
No worry about that due to make a new one pcb need wait long time so we will do it later

GB date:7/15 2020 EDT 10:00AM
GB quantity:unlimited
GB time :3days ,also i will check form in time if too much orders in, i will close it immediately.


Need say something here about unlimited
1.if I can’t handle the quantity I won’t open Gb 2.coating work with senter by fox lab 3.on s7 it only 100 so I do it almost time 3.for bear if it have much orders then also factory have more employe and I will work with a team finish this GB
Last warning :if you worried about this ,dont buy will be okay ,although run 10 pcs it still have risk

GB ETA :4-5 month QC 1month ,before 2021

Thanks all understanding,and on s7 groupbuy i am just hobby but in this buy i am almost whole time job .Due to virus my job get effect so i am doing keyboards right now

Tbh ,i want earn what i am lost and what i am deserved,thanks to people trust me but also not complain that someone worried ,is fair.
Sorry for my bad language。

Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 14 July 2020, 12:24:42
So much love.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: hkhawk on Tue, 14 July 2020, 12:37:10
Update: 7/14 2020

prototypes photo

More photo here :https://imgur.com/gallery/trR1PXv (https://imgur.com/gallery/trR1PXv)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/W1sVP1T.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1hH7B0H.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FwcRTBK.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AngqVAb.jpg)


Typing video
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16z4y1D7bm/ (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16z4y1D7bm/)

Why there was short shift ,since pcb was new do this layout so it have issue ,it already fixed and we will do prototype again to test it perfectly
No worry about that due to make a new one pcb need wait long time so we will do it later

GB date:7/15 2020 EDT 10:00AM
GB quantity:unlimited
GB time :3days ,also i will check form in time if too much orders in, i will close it immediately.


Need say something here about unlimited
1.if I can’t handle the quantity I won’t open Gb 2.coating work with senter by fox lab 3.on s7 it only 100 so I do it almost time 3.for bear if it have much orders then also factory have more employe and I will work with a team finish this GB
Last warning :if you worried about this ,dont buy will be okay ,although run 10 pcs it still have risk

GB ETA :4-5 month QC 1month ,before 2021

Thanks all understanding,and on s7 groupbuy i am just hobby but in this buy i am almost whole time job .Due to virus my job get effect so i am doing keyboards right now

Tbh ,i want earn what i am lost and what i am deserved,thanks to people trust me but also not complain that someone worried ,is fair.
Sorry for my bad language。

Jacky, those look fantastic! Can you please share a picture of the side profile of the keyboard? PC if possible.
Title: Re: [IC]Bear 65% ergo keyboard- Gasket mount(GB time :7/15 EDT 10:00AM)
Post by: jacky on Wed, 15 July 2020, 08:17:26
GB link : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107514.msg2933460#top (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107514.msg2933460#top) wait approval