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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #300 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 16:54:33 »
Awesome!

I'm in for 'HiPro homing row and Row 4 Shifts' at a minimum  :thumb:

Sweet! I did want to make sure existing owners had a few sets to pick from. I'm actually really stoked about the homing row. Never been done by a set for MX before, and I really love the way it feels.

Cannot wait :)

I think we may need to get all the SA sets re-run with Row 4 Shifts  :p

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #301 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 18:19:42 »
Do you think jtk can come up with some 6u topre sa and dsa compatible caps?

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #302 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 18:27:20 »
In the renders, the alpha keys look far from each other.

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #303 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 19:18:03 »
Do you think jtk can come up with some 6u topre sa and dsa compatible caps?

From what I've heard they are very busy with adding support to the existing cherry profile caps

Best bet would be to lobby SP to get the molds made themselves

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #304 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:26:41 »
I know this is a weird niche thing, but I would really like a windows 95/98 key (whatever you want to call it). I would maybe be willing to pay for a mold.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #305 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:39:33 »
In the renders, the alpha keys look far from each other.

What do you mean?
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #306 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:42:20 »
I know this is a weird niche thing, but I would really like a windows 95/98 key (whatever you want to call it). I would maybe be willing to pay for a mold.

Sorry, this isn't happening. Even if you do pay for a mold I'll have to stick it in a kit, and people that don't want it or care will still have to pay for it. I already trimmed out a lot of the "fat" with my existing novelty kit for the new kits as well, to get this down to being as affordable as always.

If someone wants to use the colors of Jukebox and make a buy for keys that fit the set, you are more than welcome.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #307 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:43:14 »
Do you think jtk can come up with some 6u topre sa and dsa compatible caps?

From what I've heard they are very busy with adding support to the existing cherry profile caps

Best bet would be to lobby SP to get the molds made themselves

Yeah, agreed. This is something that really only benefits them anyways in the long run, so there is no reason not to invest in them.  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #308 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:14:14 »
Definitely in for round 2 as I was lacking funds during round 1.

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #309 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:20:15 »
I know this is a weird niche thing, but I would really like a windows 95/98 key (whatever you want to call it). I would maybe be willing to pay for a mold.

Sorry, this isn't happening. Even if you do pay for a mold I'll have to stick it in a kit, and people that don't want it or care will still have to pay for it. I already trimmed out a lot of the "fat" with my existing novelty kit for the new kits as well, to get this down to being as affordable as always.

If someone wants to use the colors of Jukebox and make a buy for keys that fit the set, you are more than welcome.

I understand. Might consider a buy, but as I said, the interest wouldn't really be there most likely. Thanks for the go-ahead in any case.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #310 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:29:36 »
I know this is a weird niche thing, but I would really like a windows 95/98 key (whatever you want to call it). I would maybe be willing to pay for a mold.

Sorry, this isn't happening. Even if you do pay for a mold I'll have to stick it in a kit, and people that don't want it or care will still have to pay for it. I already trimmed out a lot of the "fat" with my existing novelty kit for the new kits as well, to get this down to being as affordable as always.

If someone wants to use the colors of Jukebox and make a buy for keys that fit the set, you are more than welcome.

I understand. Might consider a buy, but as I said, the interest wouldn't really be there most likely. Thanks for the go-ahead in any case.

You could always try pairing it with a few other, related keys, or something  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #311 on: Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:31:44 »
And there's no chance of like a separate icon mod pack is there?
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #312 on: Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:48:38 »
In the renders, the alpha keys look far from each other.

They are, it's an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era render where I used 2D mockups as reference instead of actual measurements.  :D

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #313 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 16:16:59 »
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #314 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 16:18:44 »
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?

Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #315 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 18:59:05 »
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?

Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them  :thumb:
This is a first! (I think)

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #316 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 20:15:41 »
Definitely in for a set of round2s
What changes are up for this next round? 

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #317 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 21:08:07 »
Definitely in for a set of round2s
What changes are up for this next round?

That's what like the last two pages of this thread are about.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #318 on: Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:33:13 »
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?

Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them  :thumb:
This is a first! (I think)

Most of the time you just have to deal with not having a extra left shift key every gb I've seen.

Yeah, its about time this becomes a standard inclusion I think.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #319 on: Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:37:26 »
Yeah, its about time this becomes a standard inclusion I think.

I have to admit, I've never really understood the problems people always have finding an extra left shift, I alway just trade ISO users for them, but it'll be really nice to have it all taken care of and integrated into the kit.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #320 on: Sun, 29 November 2015, 16:06:58 »
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?

Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them  :thumb:

So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #321 on: Sun, 29 November 2015, 16:57:43 »
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?

Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them  :thumb:

So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?

Uh, it will still just be MX caps, so if you want to use them on a 660C and not a 660M you'll still need the sliders. I'm just throwing in the needed keys to accommodate for the layout. 
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #322 on: Sun, 29 November 2015, 18:06:59 »
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?

Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them  :thumb:

So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?

Uh, it will still just be MX caps, so if you want to use them on a 660C and not a 660M you'll still need the sliders. I'm just throwing in the needed keys to accommodate for the layout.

:) That's what I figured, thought something amazing happened :|

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #323 on: Sun, 29 November 2015, 20:19:23 »
Hey everyone!

Thanks for following this set the first go around! I'm finally starting things back up to prepare for Round 2, which will happen much sooner than later.

All content will be updated in the Original Post as I go, so any new info will be there as well as in the comments to make it easy for you to keep track of what is happening.

I will have new rough renders of my new kits in a few days for feedback and thoughts. New possible kits include Planck/Atomic/JD40, 75%, EergoDox, HiPro homing row, Row 4 Shifts (for people that already own the kit).

Massdrop will be running this kit again.

I am also going to talk with a few community members and develop some new novelties for Round 2, and will be taking out a few from round 1, just to keep each drop a little different.

Count me in for 75% of course, all row 4 revisions, new novelties, aaaand... Wait, what's a HiPro homing row?

EDIT: Read the notes on that in the OP! I had no idea the Realforce HiPro had that sort of homing row, but that sounds amazing. I'm in for one of those as well! :thumb:
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #324 on: Wed, 09 December 2015, 15:53:29 »
Count me in for a full set + numpad. So excited  :))

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #325 on: Wed, 09 December 2015, 17:46:00 »
So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?


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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #326 on: Wed, 09 December 2015, 18:36:51 »


So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #327 on: Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:13:59 »


So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?

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A man can only dream... Fc660c needs more support.

yeah, definitely will be supported! i keep needing to finalize the renders, these recent pings helped remind me. Ill get my working stuff up tomorrow for people to give input on hopefully!
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #328 on: Fri, 11 December 2015, 23:25:30 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #329 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 01:58:23 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #330 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 02:02:43 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.

I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #331 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 13:26:31 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.

I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?

You're not doing anything wrong but it's previous obvious that it's not a common design if you needed to ask three separate designers. When it comes to sets everybody can't have what they want so generally there is a design for the populous to agree on.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #332 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 14:01:48 »
Yes, I was perhaps a bit too harsh. It sounds from what you're proposing though that you would end up with mismatched profiles, and nobody wants that.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #333 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 14:14:10 »
Yes, I was perhaps a bit too harsh. It sounds from what you're proposing though that you would end up with mismatched profiles, and nobody wants that.

Well, almost every spacebar has a different profile from the rest of the keys in its row, so can't the profiles of the keys on the bottom row already be considered mismatched?

I was making these suggestions for ergonomics reasons: If they were taken, my thumbs wouldn't have to press on sharp corners while using the Alt keys and the number pad 0 keys and my middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle when it moves from the up arrow key to the down arrow key and back.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #334 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 15:02:10 »

Well, almost every spacebar has a different profile from the rest of the keys in its row, so can't the profiles of the keys on the bottom row already be considered mismatched?

I was making these suggestions for ergonomics reasons: If they were taken, my thumbs wouldn't have to press on sharp corners while using the Alt keys and the number pad 0 keys and my middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle when it moves from the up arrow key to the down arrow key and back.

Just turn the row 4 keys 180 degrees and you get an even milder angle against your thumbs when compared to row 3.

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #335 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:11:11 »

Well, almost every spacebar has a different profile from the rest of the keys in its row, so can't the profiles of the keys on the bottom row already be considered mismatched?

I was making these suggestions for ergonomics reasons: If they were taken, my thumbs wouldn't have to press on sharp corners while using the Alt keys and the number pad 0 keys and my middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle when it moves from the up arrow key to the down arrow key and back.

Just turn the row 4 keys 180 degrees and you get an even milder angle against your thumbs when compared to row 3.

But then all the legends are upside-down …

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #336 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:24:33 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.

I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?

You're not doing anything wrong but it's previous obvious that it's not a common design if you needed to ask three separate designers. When it comes to sets everybody can't have what they want so generally there is a design for the populous to agree on.

To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets.  Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) that is how all those sets are profiled.  So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #337 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 19:27:07 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.

I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?

You're not doing anything wrong but it's previous obvious that it's not a common design if you needed to ask three separate designers. When it comes to sets everybody can't have what they want so generally there is a design for the populous to agree on.

To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets.  Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) that is how all those sets are profiled.  So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.

Thanks, man! I think that convex Alt keys and number pad 0 keys would be boss, but unfortunately those molds don't exist yet :(

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #338 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 19:28:48 »
To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets.  Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) that is how all those sets are profiled.  So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.

That's not what I'm talking about. I don't care what he wants the bottom profile to be, as long as the bottom profile is all uniform. He elaborated on a different thread that he wanted only some keys on the row as R3, which I just think would be ugly.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #339 on: Sat, 12 December 2015, 22:30:12 »
To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets.  Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) that is how all those sets are profiled.  So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.

That's not what I'm talking about. I don't care what he wants the bottom profile to be, as long as the bottom profile is all uniform. He elaborated on a different thread that he wanted only some keys on the row as R3, which I just think would be ugly.

Ah, I didn't see that other thread, I figured by the mentioning of "thumbs" in this thread it was referring to the bottom most row.  I was also primarily replying to Steezus saying it was "not a common design", which it seems quite common and on several sets I have (bottom row as R3 that is), so if he only meant a handful of keys, then yea, that is not so common.

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #340 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 17:39:36 »
Finally added some updated renders! I will leave up the kits that ran during the first round as a comparison to the new kits. Some are getting edited while others are brand new. I'm trying to finish up the ergodox kit as we speak.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #341 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 17:42:20 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #342 on: Sun, 13 December 2015, 22:58:22 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!

I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #343 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:50:19 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!

I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.

1. Round 2 of Jukebox must be fully integrated and swappable with the first one. I want the buyers that supported the first buy to be able to buy the new novelty packs and colors and be able to swap them out with their Round 1 set without having to buy a full new base set. This reason alone makes the sculpting set in stone. This is not something that will change.
2. I think the slightly upward sculpt is comfortable, more so than row 3. Other designers have felt the same as well. Sets like Round 5, Calm Depths, Commando, Penumbra, etc all have R4 as the bottom row. R4 is MADE as a bottom row.
3. I think a bottom R3 looks a little dumb. Not a fan.

I feel like the reasons I gave before were pretty definitive, especially the swapping with sets. It's also a proven sculpting, I am not the only one here that likes it. Many really highly regarded sets have a similar/same sculpt.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #344 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:51:38 »
And then there are us crazy cherry nerds who like R5  :p
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #345 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:52:41 »
And then there are us crazy cherry nerds who like R5  :p

Haha, yeah but with Cherry profile R5 makes sense.  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #346 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:54:38 »
And then there are us crazy cherry nerds who like R5  :p

Haha, yeah but with Cherry profile R5 makes sense.  :thumb:

A surprisingly large number of people try to get GMK sets produced with an R4 bottom row. Sometimes it seems like me and ideus are the only ones who want R5
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #347 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:55:27 »
And then there are us crazy cherry nerds who like R5  :p

Haha, yeah but with Cherry profile R5 makes sense.  :thumb:

A surprisingly large number of people try to get GMK sets produced with an R4 bottom row. Sometimes it seems like me and ideus are the only ones who want R5

I think a lot just havent tried it either. Not super common really.
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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #348 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:56:41 »
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?

Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!

I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.

Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that these sets are usually always collaborative efforts between the community and the designer, and so sometimes compromises have to be made to keep the set universally satisfying and compatible (and this in turn helps with reaching MQO in some cases!). I think if your idea was implemented, it'd go against the preferences of the majority, not to mention throw off the row profile on a 65% or 75% board.

You kind of just have to roll with what you get and make the best of it! Accommodations are sometimes made; I think LSB is going to add 75% support to this second round (it looks like the Planck/Atomic set might be the pack that will also shoehorn 75% support), but with the first drop, I had to rock a '5' key on row 3 of the 16th column, since there was no compatible key for it.

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Re: [IC] JUKEBOX | Gearing up for round 2 | Updated 11-26-15
« Reply #349 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 10:24:22 »
Sorry for the double post, but I just need to show my love for this set:



I got custom cases made by intelli for my Octagon and Lightpad based around this set! Looove 'em. :)