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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 28 May 2013, 21:37:56 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 28 May 2013, 20:57:43
yeah, just went to go buy daft punk's new album last week. best buy isnt what it used to be. the internet has really put it in their butt raw.

Woah... a bit explicit there for GH..
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 01 July 2013, 21:41:48 »
Ok, i want to buy digital.. but Amazon suxx somewhat. For example, you can't buy only limited albums from Black Sabbath or AC/DC. Where do you guys buy if you buy digital?
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 01 July 2013, 21:56:44 »
Ebay is the world's marketplace.

When CDs came out in the mid-1980s, they totally sucked because they did not care and left them equalized for phono cartridges.

Try not to buy any CD mastered earlier than early-mid-1990s, and high-bit remasterings are usually - but not always - well worth it.

Some artists (cough - Frank Zappa - cough) went to great effort to change and degrade wonderful originals.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 01 July 2013, 23:40:26 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 01 July 2013, 21:56:44
Ebay is the world's marketplace.

When CDs came out in the mid-1980s, they totally sucked because they did not care and left them equalized for phono cartridges.

Try not to buy any CD mastered earlier than early-mid-1990s, and high-bit remasterings are usually - but not always - well worth it.

Some artists (cough - Frank Zappa - cough) went to great effort to change and degrade wonderful originals.

subjective opinion..

You MAY be right... bu......    it is a bigger leap taken this time as he personally oversaw the transfers according to wiki,   which means,,  you're presuming to know better than the artist himself...   

possible..... but.... definately LESS concretely so than if the originals were remastered by some random engineer.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 02 July 2013, 00:57:20 »
Quote from: pexon on Tue, 28 May 2013, 05:45:14
Not true, especially with modern metal/ 'djent.' There is no way you can pick up all the nuances in modering tech metal in MP3 format. I consider my self an audiophile and I listen to 95% metal.

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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 02 July 2013, 02:35:21 »
I own tons of CDs but haven't purchased a new one at a store for nearly a decade.  I do have semi-fond memories of driving down to the media superstore and paying $17 for a new release, tearing off the plastic wrapper and cursing the impossible-to-cleanly-remove adhesive seal.

I took those discs to high school and listened to them on a discman.  I was a freshman in college during Napster's heyday and I can clearly remember being totally floored the first time I encountered an iPod.

Being a music consumer these days is pretty awesome.  Finding new interesting stuff is easy and affordable (or often free).  I don't miss album art or the record store scene (which I was never a part of), and I've never cared about vinyl.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 02 July 2013, 02:48:19 »
When I find a recording that's really worth it, I buy the disc. Have to really love it though. Growing up before the iPod meant getting shafted, album after album, with one-hit-wonders: you'd buy the whole album and then bang! Total trash.

Of course, their were some exceptions: that's how I discovered tool. Undertow had just been released and I heard "Prison Sex," censored or course, on a college radio station. Bought the album just because of that track and loved the entire thing. But considering how often I got screwed, and that I don't really listen to Tool much anymore, that's not much compensation.

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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 03 July 2013, 19:01:08 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 01 July 2013, 23:40:26
You MAY be right... but......    it is a bigger leap taken this time as he personally oversaw the transfers according to wiki

I have read several books on the subject including Barry Miles' exhaustive biography.

Back in the day, I was a big fan of the band, The Mothers of Invention. Zappa always resented anything that impinged on his (imagined) complete control of everything that was happening, and he spent the rest of his life trying to downgrade and negate the contributions of anyone but himself.

Decades down the road, especially from the turbulent 1960s, much of the "art" should be considered "historical artifact" and there is no reason, for example, in 1991, to disassemble an album from 1967 and replace an original drum track with a freshly recorded, and different version. Regardless of whether it was "better" which it most likely wasn't, anyway.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:03:28 »
a mix of amazon and itunes.

dad still has a chest full of vinyl
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:21:57 »
I don't by CDs for many years. I only have small amount of some very hard to find out of print things still, like early 'demo' type release from now more well known bands. I think the newest CD I bought was Mayhem Chimera... I only do digital now, but if I really really really like something I will try to find it on vinyl if available.
There is still just something about vinyl for me, the extra big covers, inserts, posters, color/picture discs... that CD can't touch. If I am going to spend extra money on a physical copy, it needs to be something more. Another thing that amuses me, is that often times you can get the vinyl and a download code for high quality mp3 or flac and can keep that vinyl pristine until bit rot set in on your digital!
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 06 July 2013, 12:17:35 »
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I wonder sometimes. We are living in a modern age where old devices become so irrelevant over time.

I've got a car from 2001 which came stock with a CD reader in it and I still didn't change it. So I do still have a few CDs around  :))

At home I'm just streaming musing from Internet radio.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 06 July 2013, 20:14:57 »
My car is in that awkward age: not old enough to use a cassette tape (can use as aux in) and it isn't new enough to have a dedicated aux in or iPod connector.

All it can do it play CDs, so I burn mixes for long drives.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 06 July 2013, 21:06:02 »
The only CDs I buy are used CDs of unusual old music, to rip on the computer. Unfortunately, my drive is broken: it no longer handles CDs... it handles DVDs, but not CDs...
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 06 July 2013, 21:53:42 »
Quote from: Findecanor on Sat, 06 July 2013, 21:06:02
it handles DVDs, but not CDs...

How strange. I am such a music fanatic that I have a dedicated music CD drive - a nice old Lite On from the early 2000s.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 14 July 2013, 03:17:15 »
Yeah, I keep the many CDs I've bought over the years - four moving boxes worth, but they've all been ripped to mp3 and my trend is to buy digital these days.

It's just so surreal to have lived to see the beginning and possibly the end of the CD.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 14 July 2013, 11:12:05 »
When I buy CDs I usually end up spending more time fixing em than actually listening em...
My last CD purchase -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45656.msg955869#msg955869
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 14 July 2013, 11:49:23 »
Quote from: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 14 July 2013, 11:12:05
When I buy CDs I usually end up spending more time fixing em than actually listening em...
My last CD purchase -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45656.msg955869#msg955869

Just wondering. Can you hear these inconsistencies?
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:56:51 »
Quote from: yester64 on Sun, 14 July 2013, 11:49:23
Quote from: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 14 July 2013, 11:12:05
When I buy CDs I usually end up spending more time fixing em than actually listening em...
My last CD purchase -> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45656.msg955869#msg955869

Just wondering. Can you hear these inconsistencies?

Yes, otherwise it would be hard to find em in the waveform (scrolling through it would take ages) also I wouldn't really care if I couldn't hear em...
Basically I listen the tracks while recording a separate track where I yell "left! / right!" in my mic when I hear a error/click/pop, then I visually inspect the spots where I yelled!
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 14 July 2013, 20:29:55 »
My hearing is not that great anymore since i have tinnitus, but this is quiet interesting. Never thought about that.
For some reason i feel that if i download Mp3 from Amazon that they sound better than my wav's that i rip from my cd's. Not sure why.
But i haven't ripping for a longer time and since i listen only sometimes to music at all, i just never noticed these inconsistencies in the files.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 14 July 2013, 23:30:23 »
Quote from: yester64 on Sun, 14 July 2013, 20:29:55
My hearing is not that great anymore since i have tinnitus, but this is quiet interesting. Never thought about that.
For some reason i feel that if i download Mp3 from Amazon that they sound better than my wav's that i rip from my cd's. Not sure why.
But i haven't ripping for a longer time and since i listen only sometimes to music at all, i just never noticed these inconsistencies in the files.

Part of the problem probably is that I'm kinda trained to spot errors in audio and video,
because I was involved in A/V filter and codec development for like 10 years,
and doing A/B comparisons or spotting irregularities was part of it...

Anyway, I cut out and uploaded a sniplet with one of the stronger glitches:
http://soulhunters-crappy-website.com/misc/Before.flac



Can you hear it?


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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 15 July 2013, 08:39:23 »
Only use I have for CD's now is to FLAC rip them and keep the quality lossless whereas it's harder to find that quality music on the internet.
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Re: Do you keep still music cd's?
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 16 July 2013, 22:35:23 »
Quote from: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 14 July 2013, 23:30:23
Quote from: yester64 on Sun, 14 July 2013, 20:29:55
My hearing is not that great anymore since i have tinnitus, but this is quiet interesting. Never thought about that.
For some reason i feel that if i download Mp3 from Amazon that they sound better than my wav's that i rip from my cd's. Not sure why.
But i haven't ripping for a longer time and since i listen only sometimes to music at all, i just never noticed these inconsistencies in the files.

Part of the problem probably is that I'm kinda trained to spot errors in audio and video,
because I was involved in A/V filter and codec development for like 10 years,
and doing A/B comparisons or spotting irregularities was part of it...

Anyway, I cut out and uploaded a sniplet with one of the stronger glitches:
http://soulhunters-crappy-website.com/misc/Before.flac

Show Image


Can you hear it?




I think i heard a bump of sorts
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