Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 18:16:27
(http://i.imgur.com/NzYlu79.jpg)
(Photo: techmattr)
First off, thank you everyone that made the first and second run of this set hugely successful! Both Massdrop and PimpMyKeyboard had the set sell wonderfully. I really loved seeing all of your pictures of the set on your personal boards as well :thumb:
I've had a few people interested in more novelties, extra kits, etc. I and first to admit that graphic novelties are not really my cup of tea. I don't really use them, so I don't spend a heap of time on them. In fact, Engicoder has done all of them thus far <3. Should you be inspired by the kit or color way to make a set of novelties (like Rad Hard was made for Nuclear Data) for the set, or anything of the nature I'm very open to that and would love to help out and provide files even. I'm not concerned with royalties either, you make it, you can get whatever profits from it. This wasn't ever about making money so I could care less about that part :thumb:
In terms of kits, Round 2 was designed specifically to be as cost effective as possible. After orders ship I do plan on releasing "uber" kits via the PMK store that will not be cheap, but will include a heap of keys. Adapter, Planck, Dox, and Color mod kits specifically will see exponentially more keys. I may do a blank Dox kit as well.
Welcome to "Jukebox" my 50's theme keyset. This is largely inspired by typewriters/Diner/car colors of the era (see album link at the bottom of this post), and I hope it to be instantly recognizable as being inspired by the 50's. If there is a child deal you think I should add feel free to throw out any suggestions. Child deals aren't set in stone yet, but I am working hard to make this as affordable as I can. The Base Kit will include everything needed for a standard TKL keyboard, Winkeyless, and Novelties.
Group Buy Plans
For Jukebox: Round 2 I still plan on letting Massdrop run the first batch again. PMK just finished selling extras and no new kits will be available until the next run now. Expect the buy to happen within the next 2-3 months. I will update the schedule accordingly when I find out more concrete dates.
"Jukebox" Details:
- Signature Plastics ABS SA keys
- Profile Rows 1-1-2-3-4-4
- Note-Shift keys and Space Bars will all be R3 due to Signature Plastics molds.
- Doubleshot Legends
- Alphas are TM with RN Legends
- Green Modifiers are VCO with RN Legends
- Red Modifiers are RN with TM Legends
- Semi-Matte Finish (Standard)
(http://i.imgur.com/FqYOowk.png)
Child Deals Will Include:
- Numpad Kit
- Dvorak + Colemak Kit
- ISO Kit
- German/Nordic/S.Slavic Kit
- Color Modifier Kit
- Blanks
- Plankc/Atomic/JD40
- ErgoDox
- 75%
- HiPro Homing Row
- Row 4 Shift Keys
Work Log / Currently Working On...
- Finalizing new kits (1-20-16)
Kits as they appeared on Massdrop in Round 1
Base Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/5UK5bxW.jpg)
Non-Standard & Alternate Layout Adapter Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/lBmbWyX.jpg)
Novelties Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/MLeQngN.jpg)
Numpad Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/1p0tQ1o.jpg)
ISO Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/a8QEZRr.jpg)
Dvorak + Colemak Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/KATu4mg.jpg)
International Kit (German, Swedish, Nordic)
(http://i.imgur.com/A4pNzZP.jpg)
Alternate Color Modifiers Kit (Please give input if there are more keys you'd like to see in this kit!)
(http://i.imgur.com/RWCtQiR.jpg)
New or Edited Kits for Round 2
Forum Kit (Will Include DT key, still working on it)
(http://i.imgur.com/KI6U4b6.jpg)
Planck/Atomic Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/TmA1PHF.jpg)
HiPro Homing Row Kit (Adds extra homing keys like the Realforce HiPro has)
(http://i.imgur.com/OHt1r8P.jpg)
R4 Shift Kit (For those who currently bought round 1 and need the new shifts)
(http://i.imgur.com/gULgy5K.jpg)
ErgoDox Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/lhwmLoC.jpg)
Kits to be added still
Funky Size Kit (65%+75%)
Here are some silly pics of what this is partially inspired by,
http://imgur.com/a/SnALj (http://imgur.com/a/SnALj)
(http://i.imgur.com/Mc1jFUg.png)
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Round 1 Started: 6/12/15
Round 2 Started: 5/10/16
Post by: Baxter on Thu, 30 April 2015, 18:37:45
Do you have any examples of the reference images you're drawing inspiration from?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 18:57:47
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:04:02
Wow! that's not what I expected, but I suppose that sort of turquoise is evocative of cars and "white goods" from the era, perhaps a little more muted though?
Do you have any examples of the reference images you're drawing inspiration from?
Unfortunately that green is the only remotely "seafoam green" SP has in ABS. I may do a light blue Child Deal for modifiers though if there is interest.
Any thoughts on what you'd like to see in novelties for it?
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:08:39
chocolate on cream cheese modifiers and cream cheese on strawberry accent keys. This is pretty close to that.
Post by: Bloo on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:13:30
Post by: Mooksie on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:14:58
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:16:54
I like these colors. If you do go with an alternate blue, make it work with your sea foam so people can mix and match them. Maybe align font size with Retro and/or Round 4/5 to get some compatibility going. No clue about novelties.
Thanks for the input! Yeah, the blue will definitely be compatible, I should have something up by tomorrow with that. An option for a blue Enter or ESC would be nice I think as well to go along with the seafoam green.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:18:16
This is one of those groupbuys I might actually have to join. I am certain this will get atleast 100 votes no problem on PMK.
Thank you for the kind words! The modifiers are my biggest concern right now, I'm lacking some decisive direction in that department. If nothing comes up and there is enough interest I'll probably have a few simple ones for ESC and the Windows key and leave it at that.
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:18:47
I'm in the very early stages of working on a 50's theme set. This is largely inspired by typewriters/Diner colors of the era. I am currently working on Novelty Keys with a retro-futuristic appeal. I will post renders as soon as I finish them. Child Deals will be the last thing I add based on what people want. This is my first design, so any input/advice would be greatly appreciated on any aspect of the project. Will add any details below as they come.
The set is Row 3,1,2,3,4,3 in SA profile. I am pretty set on this, as it replicates the feel of a typewriter as close as possible.
Colors are Signature Plastics ABS:
- Alphas are TM with VCO labels
- Modifiers are RCQ with VCO labels
I still have not decided on a font yet. I like the current font but am not set on it. Thoughts?
thanks GeekHackers.
Here is the color scheme as of right now using SP ABS colors,Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Gqdrme5.png)
Here is some pics of what this is inspired by,
http://imgur.com/a/SnALj (http://imgur.com/a/SnALj)
No input needed. Looks perfect. Please start group buy ASAP. Please. Please. Please. Thank you.
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:19:36
I'm in the very early stages of working on a 50's theme set. This is largely inspired by typewriters/Diner colors of the era. I am currently working on Novelty Keys with a retro-futuristic appeal. I will post renders as soon as I finish them. Child Deals will be the last thing I add based on what people want. This is my first design, so any input/advice would be greatly appreciated on any aspect of the project. Will add any details below as they come.
The set is Row 3,1,2,3,4,3 in SA profile. I am pretty set on this, as it replicates the feel of a typewriter as close as possible.
Colors are Signature Plastics ABS:
- Alphas are TM with VCO labels
- Modifiers are RCQ with VCO labels
I still have not decided on a font yet. I like the current font but am not set on it. Thoughts?
thanks GeekHackers.
Here is the color scheme as of right now using SP ABS colors,Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Gqdrme5.png)
Here is some pics of what this is inspired by,
http://imgur.com/a/SnALj (http://imgur.com/a/SnALj)
No input needed. Looks beautiful and perfect. Please start group buy ASAP. Please. Please. Please. Thank you.
Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:20:58
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:30:40
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:36:34
No input needed. Looks beautiful and perfect. Please start group buy ASAP. Please. Please. Please. Thank you.
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Thanks for the kind words! I hope to have it up sooner than later! I have a good week to work on it here and will put in quite a bit this week to hopefully get closer to going to a real Interest Check on SP.
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:40:36
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:59:21
Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 April 2015, 21:21:04
At any rate, you can save yourself about 2 pages of discussion by adding the two keys in the other colors to a child pack.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 21:31:22
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:14:44
IMHO stick with the green and not complicate things with the blue option. Make it look good with two-tone green... like VCO alphas, VAG or VAF mods.
Rock Hudson would approve ;-)
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Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:17:55
I like the idea. VCO definitely has that 50's car vibe, but the red legends and Esc aren't to my taste.
IMHO stick with the green and not complicate things with the blue option. Make it look good with two-tone green... like VCO alphas, VAG or VAF mods.
Rock Hudson would approve ;-)
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Thanks! I do plan to include a Green ESC with the original modifier set, and I'm definitely leaning more towards not having a full set of blue modifiers. There are already so many great blue+neutral sets that we don't need another. I will probably still do some blue modifier keys though for small child deals (like F row, ESC, Arrows, Enter).
I'll play around with the Two tone Green and post some renders just to see what people thing! Interesting idea! Thanks for the feedback!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:30:47
IMHO stick with the green and not complicate things with the blue option. Make it look good with two-tone green... like VCO alphas, VAG or VAF mods.
(Attachment Link)
(http://i.imgur.com/hCL1iKH.png)
Here is a render with VAG Mods and VCO Alphas. I supposed I could add both of these as child deals of they are popular enough, gives the option of an all VCO keyboard or the full green like you said. Tried to keep a little red in there as that flashy 'vette color goes so well with the green.
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:36:02
IMHO stick with the green and not complicate things with the blue option. Make it look good with two-tone green... like VCO alphas, VAG or VAF mods.
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hCL1iKH.png)
Here is a render with VAG Mods and VCO Alphas. I supposed I could add both of these as child deals of they are popular enough, gives the option of an all VCO keyboard or the full green like you said. Tried to keep a little red in there as that flashy 'vette color goes so well with the green.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! What happened to the TM alphas????
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:38:47
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:38:49
I'm in the very early stages of working on a 50's theme set. This is largely inspired by typewriters/Diner colors of the era. I am currently working on Novelty Keys with a retro-futuristic appeal. I will post renders as soon as I finish them. Child Deals will be the last thing I add based on what people want. This is my first design, so any input/advice would be greatly appreciated on any aspect of the project. Will add any details below as they come.
Originally I considered offering a full set of Blue modifiers. I scratched that idea as the Green really is my vision for this set. Seafoam is a very distinctive color for the period I want to represent. That being said I will play with a few idea to have blue modifiers for other keys like the F row, Enter, ESC. Here Is The current color of blue mixed with the green. Obviously I could alternate the F row and will offer arrow keys, but this is just to see the color.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NpiZ6f7.png)
Likie this image so much, hence please make it happen soon at PMK because this colour-way is way cool and so 1950's like.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:39:57
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:43:29
I just thought two-tone green would be unique and different to the rest. The red legends are just plain wrong to me... you could invert the colours for legends.
But it seems that may be too far away from the original design and to please everyone, you'll probably go back to yet another neutral alpha/coloured mods set.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 22:51:45
More realistically, if it does run close to my original vision (tan, green, red) I'd be more than happy to give you what I have and let you run a full alternate set, or work with you to set that up (Like Miami vs. Miami Night) with a color scheme along the lines you are thinking. I do think that would be popular as well, and different enough that it wouldn't be redundant to have both.
Post by: derezzed on Thu, 30 April 2015, 23:03:06
https://www.google.com/search?q=50s+formica+patterns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=VOVCVd7WK4HaoAS_woG4DA&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=969#imgrc=_ (https://www.google.com/search?q=50s+formica+patterns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=VOVCVd7WK4HaoAS_woG4DA&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=969#imgrc=_)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 30 April 2015, 23:06:29
Post by: fliptrik on Fri, 01 May 2015, 00:11:47
To be honest though.. I'd probably buy it no matter what color it came in. :))
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 01 May 2015, 00:33:41
Post by: Nai_Calus on Fri, 01 May 2015, 06:36:47
Post by: JinDesu on Fri, 01 May 2015, 06:45:13
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 01 May 2015, 07:05:44
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 01 May 2015, 08:34:57
Post by: njbair on Fri, 01 May 2015, 09:29:49
IMHO stick with the green and not complicate things with the blue option. Make it look good with two-tone green... like VCO alphas, VAG or VAF mods.
(Attachment Link)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hCL1iKH.png)
Here is a render with VAG Mods and VCO Alphas. I supposed I could add both of these as child deals of they are popular enough, gives the option of an all VCO keyboard or the full green like you said. Tried to keep a little red in there as that flashy 'vette color goes so well with the green.
This, this I would buy.
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 01 May 2015, 13:52:32
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 01 May 2015, 13:59:52
It will be enough to cover a TKL, and include a few extra keys as well.
I will run the green only if there is enough interest.
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:24:25
Correct, the main set will be the first image in the original post.
It will be enough to cover a TKL, and include a few extra keys as well.
I will run the green only if there is enough interest.
Phew
Post by: rawkus on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:32:05
I'm sorry, I can't get past the red legends. Sculpted SA? Sweet! Retro green/yellow? Cool. Eye-searing clashing red? Noooooooope. :/ Sorry. D:
Yea, I agree with this.
What do you think about white or creme legends on the green mods, and then black legends on the creme alphas? The typewriters from your pics have the white keys with black legends, and I think that looks great like that. Either way, I like where this set is going!
I'm wondering how I could tastefully get some chrome accents into it.
Post by: derezzed on Fri, 01 May 2015, 22:41:00
I'm sorry, I can't get past the red legends. Sculpted SA? Sweet! Retro green/yellow? Cool. Eye-searing clashing red? Noooooooope. :/ Sorry. D:
Yea, I agree with this.
What do you think about white or creme legends on the green mods, and then black legends on the creme alphas? The typewriters from your pics have the white keys with black legends, and I think that looks great like that. Either way, I like where this set is going!
I'm wondering how I could tastefully get some chrome accents into it.
You could use swill's plate builder to design a sandwich case with a steel switch plate and have it chromed.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:44:27
I'm sorry, I can't get past the red legends. Sculpted SA? Sweet! Retro green/yellow? Cool. Eye-searing clashing red? Noooooooope. :/ Sorry. D:
Yea, I agree with this.
What do you think about white or creme legends on the green mods, and then black legends on the creme alphas? The typewriters from your pics have the white keys with black legends, and I think that looks great like that. Either way, I like where this set is going!
I'm wondering how I could tastefully get some chrome accents into it.
You could use swill's plate builder to design a sandwich case with a steel switch plate and have it chromed.
Thanks! I will be offering blanks no matter what color ends up as the legends as well. I'll do a few renders of that later though!
Yeah, I'll need or order some custom milled chrome cases with Bel Air wings to go with this ;)
Post by: rawkus on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:15:02
I'm sorry, I can't get past the red legends. Sculpted SA? Sweet! Retro green/yellow? Cool. Eye-searing clashing red? Noooooooope. :/ Sorry. D:
Yea, I agree with this.
What do you think about white or creme legends on the green mods, and then black legends on the creme alphas? The typewriters from your pics have the white keys with black legends, and I think that looks great like that. Either way, I like where this set is going!
I'm wondering how I could tastefully get some chrome accents into it.
You could use swill's plate builder to design a sandwich case with a steel switch plate and have it chromed.
Thanks! I will be offering blanks no matter what color ends up as the legends as well. I'll do a few renders of that later though!
Yeah, I'll need or order some custom milled chrome cases with Bel Air wings to go with this ;)
I see we are on the same page. ;D
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 02 May 2015, 14:21:28
I'm still trying to figure out the best way to make the most people happy with this. It is impossible to make everyone happy, and there are quite a few that are wanting the red font. That being said I do want to offer a blank set as well (I figured since it is sculpted it will be easiest to offer a set instead of individual keys like other buys have) OR offer a set with black legends. I do like the red font personally, the typewriter of mine this is based on has cream/red keys and its really a tribute to that. Also looking into running the full green set with black modifiers as something else later.
Post by: Liar on Sun, 03 May 2015, 00:41:15
More
(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absred.jpg)
Or, perhaps a Neon-Blue on the TM alphas such as BBQ or BFN
More
(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absblue.jpg)
Reference:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/RXaV5jd.jpg7)
I am really looking forward to this keycap set, whatever its final iteration maybe, going to put it on a shiny metal or clear case keyboard :cool:
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 03 May 2015, 14:46:20
Another option is like 7bit's sculpted SA sets, 1-2-3-4 on alphanumerics and ALL mods in Row 3.
As long as the alphanumerics are 1-2-3-4 I think you'll get the typewriter feeling, like hammering away on a Selectric, for instance.
+1 on the chrome case with fins, that would be perfect! :D
Post by: Wannabe on Sun, 03 May 2015, 15:39:00
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs11/i/2006/236/d/e/The_Planet_Express_Ship_by_gasclown.jpg)
Post by: Vinnnie on Sun, 03 May 2015, 22:47:25
Love the colors! Kind of reminds me of Planet Express Ship from FuturamaShow Image(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs11/i/2006/236/d/e/The_Planet_Express_Ship_by_gasclown.jpg)
Wow. It really does look like the planet express ship.
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 04 May 2015, 03:20:37
Love the colors! Kind of reminds me of Planet Express Ship from FuturamaShow Image(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs11/i/2006/236/d/e/The_Planet_Express_Ship_by_gasclown.jpg)
Wow. It really does look like the planet express ship.
Great minds think alike, I think this is the work of Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth, trying to instigate a whole new world order by introducing these particular coloured keys into our virgin keyboards.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 04 May 2015, 04:12:11
I really enjoy the 60% variant with the red spacebar and Esc keys. :-*
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 04 May 2015, 11:08:32
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 04 May 2015, 13:24:01
Looks fantastic speedbump!
I really enjoy the 60% variant with the red spacebar and Esc keys. :-*
haha
Post by: Vinnnie on Mon, 04 May 2015, 14:54:28
Love the colors! Kind of reminds me of Planet Express Ship from FuturamaShow Image(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs11/i/2006/236/d/e/The_Planet_Express_Ship_by_gasclown.jpg)
Wow. It really does look like the planet express ship.
Great minds think alike, I think this is the work of Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth, trying to instigate a whole new world order by introducing these particular coloured keys into our virgin keyboards.
Truly the work of a mad scientist! Also the jukebox return novelty looks absolutely amazing :o
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 04 May 2015, 15:06:28
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 04 May 2015, 16:37:24
Love the colors! Kind of reminds me of Planet Express Ship from FuturamaShow Image(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs11/i/2006/236/d/e/The_Planet_Express_Ship_by_gasclown.jpg)
Wow. It really does look like the planet express ship.
We may have to do a single key GB after this based on the Planet Express Ship/logo somehow ;)
Post by: sherbo on Mon, 04 May 2015, 23:40:04
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 04 May 2015, 23:45:17
Post by: Asininity on Tue, 05 May 2015, 01:45:18
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 May 2015, 03:12:15
Are you really dead set on 3-1-2-3-4-3 or would you be open to 1-1-2-3-4-4 like all Cherry, DCS, OEM, etc sets?
+1 on this. SA Retro is going all out on retro goodness with 1-1-2-3-4-4 so it would be great if this follows suit... those row 1 keys on the function row definitely convey the old school vibe.
BTW Thanks for taking the time to bring it here to GH for people to toss ideas around and give suggestions. I hope my feedback is welcome and not too critical.
At first, that red/green/white combo really wasn't that appealing, but I must admit it's growing on me. But the novelties aren't that great... the icons are a bit vague... they look like drive-in or motel signs or something, and the script font, while theme-appropriate, doesn't seem to work for me aesthetically. Something that's classically 50's decor, like pointy star shapes or an atomic symbol, might work better. e.g.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9e/78/6a/9e786ab1a50a980abac17b152168bef7.jpg)
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 05 May 2015, 05:05:16
http://marketplace.veer.com/font/Rocket-Script-FDT0000063
http://www.linotype.com/1047/LinotypeGneisenauette-family.html
http://www.identifont.com/identify?6+%20+1KJ+43+4C+4SN+9Z
They look more '50s to me.
About the icons, you can't have really sharp corners on a doubleshot legend, so it would have to be slightly rounded whichever ones you choose. Perhaps a stylized vacuum tube or jukebox or neon diner sign.
Another option for a case design would be covered with padded red vinyl :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 08:43:39
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 08:45:26
For the novelties, how about a font like one of these:
http://marketplace.veer.com/font/Rocket-Script-FDT0000063
http://www.linotype.com/1047/LinotypeGneisenauette-family.html
http://www.identifont.com/identify?6+%20+1KJ+43+4C+4SN+9Z
They look more '50s to me.
About the icons, you can't have really sharp corners on a doubleshot legend, so it would have to be slightly rounded whichever ones you choose. Perhaps a stylized vacuum tube or jukebox or neon diner sign.
Another option for a case design would be covered with padded red vinyl :)
Thanks a heap for the suggestions/input! The novelties are easily my weakest link, I'm basically relearning photoshop from 10 years ago while doing this so I'm still getting back into it. Great looking stuff that you gave me though, I do plan on the novelties getting a total overhaul before it officially goes on sale!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 09:40:00
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 09:41:52
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+1 on this. SA Retro is going all out on retro goodness with 1-1-2-3-4-4 so it would be great if this follows suit... those row 1 keys on the function row definitely convey the old school vibe.
BTW Thanks for taking the time to bring it here to GH for people to toss ideas around and give suggestions. I hope my feedback is welcome and not too critical.
At first, that red/green/white combo really wasn't that appealing, but I must admit it's growing on me. But the novelties aren't that great... the icons are a bit vague... they look like drive-in or motel signs or something, and the script font, while theme-appropriate, doesn't seem to work for me aesthetically. Something that's classically 50's decor, like pointy star shapes or an atomic symbol, might work better. e.g.
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added a few more simple ideas, let me know what you think.
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 May 2015, 10:00:44
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 10:02:39
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 10:20:08
Yeah Melissa at SP is going over what will work best with the set when its finalized. So its definitely not set in stone
so the novelties will have to be extremely basic for doubleshots, and I am dead set on this being SA doubleshots, so for now the interest check will go up on PMK within the week without the novelties being done. I will work with some people to come up with something that works hopefully by the time it hits the sale page. I didn't want to sacrifice and have to go with a lesser quality simply because of novelties.
Got a red nuka cola cap? that would be perfect ;)
Post by: IMBoddy on Tue, 05 May 2015, 19:50:46
:eek:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 20:15:54
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 May 2015, 20:23:33
so the novelties will have to be extremely basic for doubleshots, and I am dead set on this being SA doubleshots, so for now the interest check will go up on PMK within the week without the novelties being done. I will work with some people to come up with something that works hopefully by the time it hits the sale page. I didn't want to sacrifice and have to go with a lesser quality simply because of novelties.
Good plan.
Some more feedback:
- Needs a white `~ key. Mockups look strange with a green one while the \| is white. But obviously keep the green `~ and \| for the "60% symmetry" lovers.
- Add a Tsangan kit. You've got 7U spacebars but no 1.5U mods/1U win key to go with it. You've got 1U + and 1U 0 for Cherry 1800 layout, but they need the 1.5U Ctrl and Alt to go with it. Converting the 7U spacebar kit to a full Tsangan kit would be reasonable. Red 1U winkeys would be cool, maybe with the novelty icon if you do one.
- Dvorak/Colemak kit has misaligned legends.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 20:48:38
I will add everything for the Tsangan kit as well in place of just a 7u spacebar. Thanks for letting me know what I need for that.
Red Win keys sound like a good idea, will add.
Novelties are being worked on now still to the specs I was sent :)
(and yeah, i noticed the Dvorak legends are a bit off, I will correct that tonight)
Thanks SO much for all the great feedback! I couldn't make the set a great one without help like this!
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 May 2015, 21:17:44
Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 05 May 2015, 21:26:49
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1320223/5KGgu.gif)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 May 2015, 23:54:54
love it. this may be one of the best gifs ever.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 06 May 2015, 11:34:38
the "~" key has also been fixed from green to tan, with a green being included in the base set for 60% users.
Post by: IMBoddy on Wed, 06 May 2015, 23:29:07
:-X :-X
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 06 May 2015, 23:34:12
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 06 May 2015, 23:39:07
This thread is like my homepage now how much I check it. I just bought a red tex case and blue switch v60 to match this as well as red case blue switch leopold numpad.
:-X :-X
And if (when hopefully) it tips I'll probably do something fun like have a few mouse pads and coffee cups made with the logo and send em out to a few early supporters and people that helped me or encouraged me with it ;)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:11:29
There are no words; only one gif to describe this setShow Image(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1320223/5KGgu.gif)
Just made all the corrections we spoke of last night!
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:16:13
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/what-brand-new-sa-keycap-set-would-you-like-to-have-produced
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:30:32
Also, I hope to have some approved novelties up sooner than later! I just really want to get the keyboard and kits right so I can just concentrate on those.
I'd like one of them to be something similar to the logo I've settled on for the set, one GH and /r/mk, and still need another one or two. Ideas always welcome here!
Post by: Vinnnie on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:23:11
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:24:49
I think we are in peak SA profile times lol.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:54:20
Timing will definitely be important here, as I don't want to compete with other sets simply because I'd rather people be able to buy both than have to choose between two. I do hope to push it through interest checks on PMK very soon though, with the GB happening within a reasonable time frame, but when the timing is right!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:55:49
I quite like where this is going.
I think we are in peak SA profile times lol.
yes we are.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:57:00
Just held out on retro sa so I could wait for this. Gunna get two sets! Can't wait ;D
Thanks for the kind words! I'm really glad you like it! After it hits group buy and (hopefully) tips I'll come back here and see who was supporting it in the "early days" as I usually have some silly crap like mouse pads and coffee mugs made with the logo on it after I'm done as a fun farewell to the project. (until it get enough interest to get made again ;) )
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:09:50
Just held out on retro sa so I could wait for this. Gunna get two sets! Can't wait ;D
Thanks for the kind words! I'm really glad you like it! After it hits group buy and (hopefully) tips I'll come back here and see who was supporting it in the "early days" as I usually have some silly crap like mouse pads and coffee mugs made with the logo on it after I'm done as a fun farewell to the project. (until it get enough interest to get made again ;) )
Hey, I know this is totally unrelated, but I noticed from your sig that you have boards with MX Clears and with MX Greens. I have clears and am considering getting greens, but from the ripometer (on Reddit) it seems that Greens are significantly heavier even than Clears. What's your actual experience? Do they seem much heavier? Are Greens viable for a daily driver board?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:40:53
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:49:04
Oh yeah, Greens are absolutely viable for a daily driver. I've basically weeded out the collection from anything other than blues or greens as far as Cherry switches go. In my honest opinion, Clears feel just as heavy as Greens, possibly heavier due to their unique force curve after actuation. Greens are very crisp, while clears are not, which probably helps them not feel as heavy either. Greens absolutely aren't as heavy feeling as some would make them out to be, especially after a week of use it will just feel normal and other switches will just feel...flimsy. I cant say enough about Greens, highly recommended by me.
Much appreciated.
Post by: skycrimes on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:54:54
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:46:21
Post by: skipped on Thu, 07 May 2015, 19:33:54
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 07 May 2015, 19:39:38
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 08 May 2015, 09:50:05
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/35ampe/buying_please_vote_for_the_50s_jukebox_caps_on/
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 10:58:46
Post by: dotdrew on Fri, 08 May 2015, 12:39:00
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 12:51:13
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 12:57:32
Just a quick bit of input, the Alt Gr key in the ISO kit it labelled as Row 4, is there a reason it's Row 4 and not Row 3?
Fixed, should show up in the OP now. Thanks!
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 08 May 2015, 14:28:13
dude, you're awesome! Definitely helped, it has twice as many votes as last night. Enigcoder was telling me he wish he ran 1976 off Massdrop, so honestly I may start putting more effort into getting that Massdrop poll up to 200 than about getting the PMK poll to break even. Having both options will be nice for sure, but it will probably do way better on Massdrop.
I am not awesome. I just want these caps so bad it hurts.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 14:31:40
Soon enough, soon enough (hopefully). I'm passing the massdrop voting link around anywhere I can.
Post by: IMBoddy on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:06:03
Edit: 100 votes woo! Halfway there!
Post by: IMBoddy on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:47:49
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:07:45
Liked and shared on r/keycaps, it was the only subreddit I saw without a thread.
Edit: 100 votes woo! Halfway there!
Thank you so much!! You guys seriously rock, this is going way faster than I though :D
Hm, you make a very valid point. Do you know what other sets have done in the past? Open to any suggestions. I could either
A) throw a few extra keys in the base set or B) Make a 60% novelties Child deal.
I really want to keep things as cost effective as possible here, so not sure which one would be preferred. I'll start mockups of what both would be like to hopefully get some price quotes though. I definitely think the top of the 60% should still be R1. Very good observation :)
Post by: rawkus on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:10:14
I might have to do blanks with the addition of just the logo novelty keycap. :cool:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:22:28
I see the 60% has numbers row 1 but novelties as row 3 including the backspace. Will 60% top row be row 1 or 3?
Ok, looked into this.
I added a R1 ESC and Green ~ key to the base set.
For novelties I may add a 60% child deal that will have the ones needed in R1 or simply include them in the normal novelties set (which makes a bit more sense to me). I will have this live when I get home from work late tonight. Let me know if you see anything else to change!
Also, how would you feel about making the Forums keys R3 1.25u so they could be used on the bottom row? This way they would be universal to 60% or TKL/TK and not add keys/cost to the set?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:31:23
Loving the progress of this set!
I might have to do blanks with the addition of just the logo novelty keycap. :cool:
Thanks! I should have some finalized novelties sooner than later. Enigcoder (1976) has been gracious enough to help me do some :)
Post by: rawkus on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:32:46
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:40:57
How about a TV similar to the TV in your logo for a novelty?
That is in the works actually, just simplifying it for the doubleshot process :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:10:52
Edit: 100 votes woo! Halfway there!
130 :) At this rate I'll have enough votes by tomorrow, then I'll need to contact SP/Massdrop to figure out the next move.
Post by: IMBoddy on Fri, 08 May 2015, 18:22:05
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 18:45:29
Tomorrow? More like tonight! You're at 150!
Thanks to how supportive everyone has been. I'm pretty blown away by it honestly.
Only 30 more to go!
Post by: IMBoddy on Fri, 08 May 2015, 23:08:33
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 23:17:12
200 wooooo! Congratulations
All thanks to you guys and gals :) I already emailed massdrop earlier so I'll keep updates coming as soon as I know something more.
Post by: Vinnnie on Fri, 08 May 2015, 23:35:22
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 May 2015, 23:42:52
Yay its coming!
That is the plan :)
Post by: skaloola on Sat, 09 May 2015, 00:10:49
Looking for a set to fit my K65.. it needs a 6.5U spacebar (among other things for the bottom row)
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 00:47:06
Then the green ~` joins green \| at the bottom.
I'm going to push for 1-1-2-3-4-4 profile again :D I can't see the attraction for row 3 at top and bottom. Row 4 on the bottom row is no different to OEM or Cherry profile (and basically becomes parallel to the desk if the keyboard is inclined). Row 1 on the function key row really plays on the vintage/retro vibe. I'm typing on Hack'd by Geeks right now (which is 3-1-2-3-4-3) and while I love it, damn I wish it was 1-1-2-3-4-4. SA Retro will be 1-1-2-3-4-4 (due to people wanting it, and Matt3o listening!) and people are happy.
Just check out Penumbra and look at that function row... *drool*
(http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/07/penumbra-1280x960.jpg)
http://keypuller.com/penumbra-sa/
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 09 May 2015, 01:14:52
Yes. I love that look. Yes. You win. Will make changes to renders asap.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 09 May 2015, 10:43:30
Just check out Penumbra and look at that function row... *drool*
http://keypuller.com/penumbra-sa/
Is that how the original Penumbra was, just out of curiosity?
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 10:56:23
Post by: IMBoddy on Sat, 09 May 2015, 11:29:01
I just got asked why I need these keycaps from a rubber dome user.
Post by: xerxes on Sat, 09 May 2015, 14:41:35
http://hack.org/mc/images/KB_Sweden.png (http://hack.org/mc/images/KB_Sweden.png)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 09 May 2015, 16:00:19
Post by: xerxes on Sat, 09 May 2015, 19:18:03
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 09 May 2015, 19:24:31
Show Image(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-58285-Eddie-Murphy-Bowfinger-cringe-HUgp.gif)
I just got asked why I need these keycaps from a rubber dome user.
HHahahaha
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 10 May 2015, 12:03:25
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 11 May 2015, 05:23:52
Post by: derezzed on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:24:12
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 11 May 2015, 22:15:52
Post by: john2x on Tue, 12 May 2015, 05:11:39
Post by: Mooksie on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:21:01
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:23:50
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:45:21
I'm interested. Between this and Retrobright, whichever comes out first gets my money. :D
What is Retrobright?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:46:46
I like the novelties, especially the /r/mk rocket. Great job speedbump and enigcoder! :thumb:
Thanks! Yeah, I honestly think his novelty designs really pushed this to the next level. All of that credit is Engicoders.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:48:19
This is looking amazing, great progress. Guess I'm going to have to start saving again after ordering Retro SA.
Thank you! Hopefully it will be a little while before it actually drops, I don't want it happening during another SA drop for this very reason ;)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:49:30
This is coming along so nicely. I wish you luck on this! Hope I have the funds to join in when the GB starts.
Thanks! Been a lot of work but I think it will pay off. It will probably be a month or two at least before it actually goes on sale.
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:55:56
(http://i.imgur.com/kCd28Qy.png)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 10:28:09
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 12 May 2015, 14:24:02
You have a 7x creme spacebar. What about the other colors? You could do an extra spacebar pack with 7x red and turquoise spacebars, or maybe remove the spacebars from the color pack and put them into their own sets with a 7x and a 6.25x spacebar for each color? Not sure what you think about adding additional packs. :rolleyes:
Post by: xerxes on Tue, 12 May 2015, 15:34:11
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 17:23:46
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 12 May 2015, 17:26:14
Hopefully I'll have some news as to when they will be available sooner than later. It will happen :)That sounds promising. ;D Hope it'll go through Massdrop, though I fear it colliding with Modern Selectric.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 18:05:07
Interest check is now live on PMK, please vote!!! :D
That being said, this is really a backup option still. I will keep you all updated with what happens with Massdrop. Options never hurt though.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 18:06:34
Hopefully I'll have some news as to when they will be available sooner than later. It will happen :)That sounds promising. ;D Hope it'll go through Massdrop, though I fear it colliding with Modern Selectric.
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/jukebox-a-sculpted-sa-keyset/#comment-11172 vote here if you have time too ;)
Well, if it went through Massdrop I'm sure it would be timed so it wouldnt collide with Modern Selectric. I definitely think it would be benefitial to not rush it out the door so it doesnt collide with another big SA set.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 12 May 2015, 23:34:58
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/jukebox-a-sculpted-sa-keyset/#comment-11172 (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/jukebox-a-sculpted-sa-keyset/#comment-11172) vote here if you have time too ;)
Well, if it went through Massdrop I'm sure it would be timed so it wouldnt collide with Modern Selectric. I definitely think it would be benefitial to not rush it out the door so it doesnt collide with another big SA set.
Just voted for it, because it reminds me of the late 50's easily :thumb: .
Massdrop will get you the numbers but it will be fielding a possibly crowded field but then again PMK isn't much better with scores of SA sets about to roll through.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 May 2015, 23:40:23
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Wed, 13 May 2015, 01:08:59
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 13 May 2015, 05:45:22
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:02:06
It didn't even get the 25 sales needed to tip. Maybe the recent Massdrop Granite buy stole all it sales, but the last 3 buys on PMK have failed to tip. I think its poor website may be taking its toll.
What it basically comes down to is the actual key-set itself, and whether it becomes extremely popular and endears lots of people to off load their wallets. The last 3 buys at PMK didn't have that type of attraction, it's as simple as that.
A Quality Designed key-set brings in the moolah every time, no matter where it's selling from 8) .
Post by: My_Thoughts on Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:22:24
Thanks :)
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:25:59
I'm cleaning up my Inkscape mockup template so he can use this to produce mockups in future, that look a bit closer to the real deal:
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Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:30:34
livingspeedbump is doing this the right way, IMHO. He's asked for and listened to advice, and implemented nearly ever suggestion I've made to improve the keyset to be either more "standard" or more compatible, and striking a balance between kit sizes/cost and the MOQ concerns. He's also not rushing this to GB or fixated on how fulfilment will be achieved.
I'm cleaning up my Inkscape mockup template so he can use this to produce mockups in future, that look a bit closer to the real deal:
(Attachment Link)
That looks awesome! Nice job. :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:48:15
livingspeedbump is doing this the right way, IMHO. He's asked for and listened to advice, and implemented nearly ever suggestion I've made to improve the keyset to be either more "standard" or more compatible, and striking a balance between kit sizes/cost and the MOQ concerns. He's also not rushing this to GB or fixated on how fulfilment will be achieved.
I'm cleaning up my Inkscape mockup template so he can use this to produce mockups in future, that look a bit closer to the real deal:
(Attachment Link)
Holy crap! This looks amazing! Even this mock up will be good to show the Massdrop guys. I think it will be great if it really looks different/better than the other mockups right now. Very very nice! Thanks :)
And thanks for the kind works as well! Really do wan't this to end up being a really good set and you've been a huge, huge, huge help.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:49:10
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 13 May 2015, 16:06:51
Massdrop has said they are very interested and want to do this drop!
Good news for all! So details with SP still need to be worked out, along with timing it to drop when there isn't another big SA drop like Retro going on, this gives everyone a chance to recover their wallets and not have to decide between two sets, instead you can just buy both ;)
Post by: rawkus on Wed, 13 May 2015, 16:10:55
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 13 May 2015, 16:57:59
Doing a Reply so everyone sees this.Sounds great! :cool:
Massdrop has said they are very interested and want to do this drop!
Good news for all! So details with SP still need to be worked out, along with timing it to drop when there isn't another big SA drop like Retro going on, this gives everyone a chance to recover their wallets and not have to decide between two sets, instead you can just buy both ;)
Sorry, I asked before, but what about turquoise and red 7u spacebars?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 13 May 2015, 17:15:57
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 13 May 2015, 18:05:09
Work Log / Currently Working On...I'd make fewer bigger sets to raise the chance of them meeting the MOQ, because I see this set not being as popular as Granite for example which allowed for many child deals (what a bummer). I hope that it's possible to get quotes from SP on the sets to keep costs reasonable.
- Still finalizing non-standard child deals and figuring out if they should be combined or individual. Combined means more likely to tip, yet more expensive. Thoughts?
I wonder how Massdrop handles the MOQ of child deals at all since their system only allows for the MOQ of the main set and all the child-sets are counted as variations of the main set. (that's why Granite has such a large number for example).
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 13 May 2015, 19:57:30
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 14 May 2015, 16:37:01
Germanic/Slavic/Nordic kit added, which is brand new.
That being said I know some kits aren't shown that were suggested (smaller 40% support/ortholinear support) and I'm still getting mock ups done of them, though I'm not sure why will tip. Due to the sculpted profile its not quite as easy to make kits that cover a lot of sets all at once.
If the base set does well enough I'm strongly considering doing a GB for these from here though. Feel free to post/pm me with any questions/suggestions still.
Post by: xerxes on Thu, 14 May 2015, 17:03:19
Judging by this http://www.qpad.se/uploads2/MK80/QPADMK80-NORDIC-Layout.png,
[ Å ] should be R2, [? +] should be R1, [ * ' ] should be R3, [ Æ ] and [ Ø ] should also be R3. (=> only [ ALT GR], [ SHIFT ], [ <> ], [ , ; ], [ . : ], [ ^ " ] is R4)
On another note, this looks so so promising. I've been looking for something like this; it feels just like christmas.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 14 May 2015, 17:17:26
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 14 May 2015, 18:27:32
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 11:58:50
Any chance the ISO kit could include the 4 key with the € symbol?
Thanks :)
added.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 11:59:59
Doing a Reply so everyone sees this.Sounds great! :cool:
Massdrop has said they are very interested and want to do this drop!
Good news for all! So details with SP still need to be worked out, along with timing it to drop when there isn't another big SA drop like Retro going on, this gives everyone a chance to recover their wallets and not have to decide between two sets, instead you can just buy both ;)
Sorry, I asked before, but what about turquoise and red 7u spacebars?
Added red to the 7u kit. The turquoise one just didn't look nearly as good and we decided to cut down on extra costs and help people get the most bang for their buck.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 12:00:30
In the nordic/slavic/DE kit, there seems to be an error?
Judging by this http://www.qpad.se/uploads2/MK80/QPADMK80-NORDIC-Layout.png,
[ Å ] should be R2, [? +] should be R1, [ * ' ] should be R3, [ Æ ] and [ Ø ] should also be R3. (=> only [ ALT GR], [ SHIFT ], [ <> ], [ , ; ], [ . : ], [ ^ " ] is R4)
On another note, this looks so so promising. I've been looking for something like this; it feels just like christmas.
I fixed it based on the picture you gave me. Doing a bit more research just to double check, you may want to as well!
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 15 May 2015, 14:16:10
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/KB_Germany.svg/640px-KB_Germany.svg.png)
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 15 May 2015, 14:20:23
- R4 row on the German/Nordic/S.Slavic Kit render is misaligned
- R3 label on the color modifier render is misaligned
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 15:05:09
Yeah, the renders still aren't perfect, I'm kind of shelling them out in a moderately unfinished state just so I can get feedback on their content! I want to make sure the Rows/Keys are all correct, once that is finished I'll do one really polished run of the renders.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 15:13:55
Maybe I've overseen it, but I think your German/... ISO kit misses the R4 key with underscore and dash (left of right shift):Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/KB_Germany.svg/640px-KB_Germany.svg.png)
Ah yeah, I'll add the dash to the key!
Post by: Vinnnie on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:02:45
Doing a Reply so everyone sees this.
Massdrop has said they are very interested and want to do this drop!
Good news for all! So details with SP still need to be worked out, along with timing it to drop when there isn't another big SA drop like Retro going on, this gives everyone a chance to recover their wallets and not have to decide between two sets, instead you can just buy both ;)
Or I can just buy mulitple jukebox sets :thumb: I swear I had a dream about already owning this set last night...
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:14:26
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:22:59
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:35:18
I realize there are quite a few right now, though the community does also love their SA keycaps. That being said this whole kit is based off a 50's typewriter and those higher profile keys really enhance the look and feel, which in turn enhances this set. Also, this is so far along that changing a profile now would delay the project for a very long time. Massdrop is on board, talks with SP are happening, so...basically not possible. Their pricing is great, totally agree, but my whole vision for this set would be compromised if I switched now.
Now, I've seen other sets where people were making SA profile sets based off of games, which was a little confusing to me. That is one of the cases where I would definitely look into/use a different profile. SA is pretty much just for typing.
In the future would I be interested in doing something through JTK? Absolutely. Could this set even be run as a JTK set one day? Perhaps, I wouldn't be against it if there was interest in the future. I don't create these these sets and want to "control" them, I really just do it for the community. I hope that was an acceptable and understandable answer.
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:49:22
Not this one. The Sculpted SA was one of the few "non-negotiable" aspects of this set, and that is a SP exclusive.
I realize there are quite a few right now, though the community does also love their SA keycaps. That being said this whole kit is based off a 50's typewriter and those higher profile keys really enhance the look and feel, which in turn enhances this set. Also, this is so far along that changing a profile now would delay the project for a very long time. Massdrop is on board, talks with SP are happening, so...basically not possible. Their pricing is great, totally agree, but my whole vision for this set would be compromised if I switched now.
Now, I've seen other sets where people were making SA profile sets based off of games, which was a little confusing to me. That is one of the cases where I would definitely look into/use a different profile. SA is pretty much just for typing.
In the future would I be interested in doing something through JTK? Absolutely. Could this set even be run as a JTK set one day? Perhaps, I wouldn't be against it if there was interest in the future. I don't create these these sets and want to "control" them, I really just do it for the community. I hope that was an acceptable and understandable answer.
That makes sense. I appreciate the response.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 15 May 2015, 18:04:22
That being said I'm very curious as to how JTK plays out. I hope it lives up to what we are all expecting it to be. So far they look like very nice caps.
Post by: IMBoddy on Sat, 16 May 2015, 02:11:56
:thumb:
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sat, 16 May 2015, 03:29:13
There was a rumor that SP was making a row 4 SA shift key mold late last year, did that never happen?
So SP never made good with row 4 shift molds?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 16 May 2015, 10:14:56
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 16 May 2015, 10:17:24
Not that I am aware of.
I'm really glad you enjoy this! It's been a heap of work, but I think it'll totally be worth it when I see it on peoples keyboards :)
Man, you must have some crazy nerds where you live if you have to fear for your keycaps getting stolen :p Though I'll probably buy 2 as well, I'd like to do one 60% with the red mod kit and one TKL with the standard kit. I've got a POK3R just sitting around with no aftermarket keycaps on it and it's driving me nuts. It needs more personality.
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:30:15
Can't wait for this one to go live.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:34:12
This set is looking better every time I look in on this thread!
Can't wait for this one to go live.
Thanks a heap! I should have an update with some sort of tentative schedule early next week!
Post by: IMBoddy on Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:39:53
I'm ready.....Brown switches instead of blue to be nice to coworkers. but blue numpad when things get crazy. But when a paper or project is due I plan on buying a pok3r blue switch with Danger Zone keycaps for the "Big Guns"
TLDR Browns (Jukebox) playing cool with the guys, Blues (Danger Zone)when its time to go to war.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 17 May 2015, 17:22:12
Post by: Kaiser_Bill on Sun, 17 May 2015, 23:06:10
Post by: john2x on Mon, 18 May 2015, 01:01:24
What is Retrobright?
Sorry, I meant Retroblight (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67413.0) :) Penumbra's younger brother. It's got a similar feel to this set, so not much point in getting both.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 18 May 2015, 01:21:03
A bit too many colors for my taste. I love how Penumbra has some very subtle color (it is on my main keyboard right now actually ;)
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 18 May 2015, 02:14:33
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 18 May 2015, 11:13:38
Hey were you gonna add in a 1.75u shift, FN keys, or some 1u blue winkeys to this keyset?
Yeah, I'm adding those today!
Post by: jsbradley7 on Mon, 18 May 2015, 22:52:29
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 18 May 2015, 22:54:50
Looking forward to this set. It's actually my catalyst for joining geekhack.
Well I'm glad you like the set so much. That's a huge compliment, thank you!
Post by: My_Thoughts on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:35:02
I'm not sure if you know, but the ISO set is missing a little. The ¬ key should also have ¦ on it, and the 4 key is missing $
http://www.quietpc.com/images/products/matias-quiet-pro-keyboards-10-large.jpg
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 19 May 2015, 12:20:42
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:36:40
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:41:35
Just added JD40/Planck/Atomic/Ergodox support, but they will not be available until after the first run. When the new PMK store gets its overhaul I will make them all available. There hasn't been any huge interest in any of them, but thanks to the way the new store will work it would be silly not to make it as compatible as possible. It should also be noted that these kits will all be R3. This is to make it as customizable and affordable as possible.I like your intentions. Though we don't really know how the conditions for the pre-production will be. I guess there are going to be some limitations considering the risk they are taking.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:11:40
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:31:51
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:39:49
Post by: Data on Tue, 19 May 2015, 16:25:19
One note on the Planck/Atomic kit (realizing that it will be down the road a ways): Your "High" and "Low" keys can really say anything you want. I think the stock nomenclature is "Raise" and "Lower" on those keys -- the logic being that you're raising or lowering the programmable layers on the board. I used High and Low on my Danger Zone kit because it felt more in line with the aviation theme (high altitude, low altitude) and because those legends fit the space on a 1u cap, but it's not remotely standard. I've also seen "Up" and "Down" on those keys. Feel free to use whatever fits best with your theme. If you still prefer High and Low, that's totally cool too.
If the comments so far are any indication this set seems like it will be a runaway success. :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:39:50
Your kits look good. Nice job man.
One note on the Planck/Atomic kit (realizing that it will be down the road a ways): Your "High" and "Low" keys can really say anything you want. I think the stock nomenclature is "Raise" and "Lower" on those keys -- the logic being that you're raising or lowering the programmable layers on the board. I used High and Low on my Danger Zone kit because it felt more in line with the aviation theme (high altitude, low altitude) and because those legends fit the space on a 1u cap, but it's not remotely standard. I've also seen "Up" and "Down" on those keys. Feel free to use whatever fits best with your theme. If you still prefer High and Low, that's totally cool too.
If the comments so far are any indication this set seems like it will be a runaway success. :thumb:
Thanks! Someone had mentioned it specifically, but now that I know where it came from I'm going to change it ;)
Mine has an up arrow/down arrow, but it was pieced together with a crap bag so I assumed maybe "high" and "low" were standards.
Perhaps a "high gear" "low gear" would vibe better.
And hey, Danger Zone already has a keyboard on my wall just waiting for it to hit GB.
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 20 May 2015, 03:05:04
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Post by: Data on Wed, 20 May 2015, 08:19:40
Data posted in the Danger Zone thread about what SP wants to do with their system: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.msg1751207#msg1751207
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Yeah, some of the novelty is gone. But it's better than a constant stream of latecomers asking when the next round is happening or if the GB is still going. And I guess if you still want the novelty you can always run your own "traditional" group buy and just have SP make the caps, or make arrangements with CtrlAlt, or do it like Ivan does. This really only affects PMK.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 May 2015, 08:44:10
Data posted in the Danger Zone thread about what SP wants to do with their system: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.msg1751207#msg1751207
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Yeah, some of the novelty is gone. But it's better than a constant stream of latecomers asking when the next round is happening or if the GB is still going. And I guess if you still want the novelty you can always run your own "traditional" group buy and just have SP make the caps, or make arrangements with CtrlAlt, or do it like Ivan does. This really only affects PMK.
From what I understand you may still be able to run a limited run through them, but I'm not entirely sure. I do know for a fact that you'll only make your 5% as a designer if it goes through their Key Store (I asked as I'm going through Massdrop with R1). Still, I didn't set out to make money on this, and because thats the way we've been going with this set for a while I'm surely not going to change it just so I can make a buck or two(I also figure it means there won't be much competition this month or so). That being said it should still be up in their new store later, though I may wait 6 months or so before resubmitting after the first drop.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 May 2015, 08:46:51
Data posted in the Danger Zone thread about what SP wants to do with their system: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.msg1751207#msg1751207
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Yeah, I'll be curious how this affects the guys like CtrlAlt that will still be doing one-of group buys. I can really see it going both ways, though I feel like that will still be a pretty valid model for sets.
Post by: Data on Wed, 20 May 2015, 08:55:59
Data posted in the Danger Zone thread about what SP wants to do with their system: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.msg1751207#msg1751207
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Yeah, I'll be curious how this affects the guys like CtrlAlt that will still be doing one-of group buys. I can really see it going both ways, though I feel like that will still be a pretty valid model for sets.
I think CtrlAlt is shifting its business to JT Keycaps from now on. I know Bunny has stated at least once that Hacked by Geeks was his last SP group buy. So as far as GeekHack is concerned, everything is either run through the PMK system or it's moving on from SP completely. Engicoder's 1976 add-on pack is the only one I'm aware of that will be run as an SP "traditional" group buy.
There's 7bit's Round X, but I consider that more of a Deskthority thing. :P
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:22:52
Data posted in the Danger Zone thread about what SP wants to do with their system: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.msg1751207#msg1751207
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Yeah, I'll be curious how this affects the guys like CtrlAlt that will still be doing one-of group buys. I can really see it going both ways, though I feel like that will still be a pretty valid model for sets.
I think CtrlAlt is shifting its business to JT Keycaps from now on. I know Bunny has stated at least once that Hacked by Geeks was his last SP group buy. So as far as GeekHack is concerned, everything is either run through the PMK system or it's moving on from SP completely. Engicoder's 1976 add-on pack is the only one I'm aware of that will be run as an SP "traditional" group buy.
There's 7bit's Round X, but I consider that more of a Deskthority thing. :P
I am curious to see how the JTK set ends up. I order a set mainly out of curiosity even though I wasn't a huge fan of any of the colors. They have great prices, and look much better than SP DCS keycaps, which I hate. I can see traditional GB's being run just to have a limited set and it being a big hit. I can also see it flopping because the market will seem a bit oversaturated at first, especially compared to what we're used to. Time will tell. It does suck I have to wait for Danger Zone longer :( This will have to hold me off until then :thumb:
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 20 May 2015, 14:50:23
Data posted in the Danger Zone thread about what SP wants to do with their system: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.msg1751207#msg1751207
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Yeah, I'll be curious how this affects the guys like CtrlAlt that will still be doing one-of group buys. I can really see it going both ways, though I feel like that will still be a pretty valid model for sets.
I think CtrlAlt is shifting its business to JT Keycaps from now on. I know Bunny has stated at least once that Hacked by Geeks was his last SP group buy. So as far as GeekHack is concerned, everything is either run through the PMK system or it's moving on from SP completely. Engicoder's 1976 add-on pack is the only one I'm aware of that will be run as an SP "traditional" group buy.
There's 7bit's Round X, but I consider that more of a Deskthority thing. :P
I am curious to see how the JTK set ends up. I order a set mainly out of curiosity even though I wasn't a huge fan of any of the colors. They have great prices, and look much better than SP DCS keycaps, which I hate. I can see traditional GB's being run just to have a limited set and it being a big hit. I can also see it flopping because the market will seem a bit oversaturated at first, especially compared to what we're used to. Time will tell. It does suck I have to wait for Danger Zone longer :( This will have to hold me off until then :thumb:
JTK is just getting their DCS/Cherrry/OEM (or what every they are calling their profile) finished up, so I doubt they will be jumping into creating a whole set of spherical molds anytime soon.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 21 May 2015, 12:37:18
Data posted in the Danger Zone thread about what SP wants to do with their system: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.msg1751207#msg1751207
Basically overhaul the whole process, so you may have to wait a little for the site to be redone and put it up as an interest check there when it's ready. I like the idea behind the new system, but I think it will take away a little of the "limited time only" exclusivity of some of the sets. Definitely better for planning which sets to buy when, though.
Yeah, I'll be curious how this affects the guys like CtrlAlt that will still be doing one-of group buys. I can really see it going both ways, though I feel like that will still be a pretty valid model for sets.
I think CtrlAlt is shifting its business to JT Keycaps from now on. I know Bunny has stated at least once that Hacked by Geeks was his last SP group buy. So as far as GeekHack is concerned, everything is either run through the PMK system or it's moving on from SP completely. Engicoder's 1976 add-on pack is the only one I'm aware of that will be run as an SP "traditional" group buy.
There's 7bit's Round X, but I consider that more of a Deskthority thing. :P
I am curious to see how the JTK set ends up. I order a set mainly out of curiosity even though I wasn't a huge fan of any of the colors. They have great prices, and look much better than SP DCS keycaps, which I hate. I can see traditional GB's being run just to have a limited set and it being a big hit. I can also see it flopping because the market will seem a bit oversaturated at first, especially compared to what we're used to. Time will tell. It does suck I have to wait for Danger Zone longer :( This will have to hold me off until then :thumb:
JTK is just getting their DCS/Cherrry/OEM (or what every they are calling their profile) finished up, so I doubt they will be jumping into creating a whole set of spherical molds anytime soon.
Yeah, I don't see SA having any competition anytime soon. But just having an extra option for a DCS/Cherry/OEM will be nice.
Post by: IMBoddy on Mon, 25 May 2015, 00:42:06
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 25 May 2015, 07:45:00
Any news from Massdrop? I need that update fix... :confused:
I am supposed to expect something early this week. I figure probably tomorrow as this is a holiday :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 26 May 2015, 21:51:08
Post by: IMBoddy on Tue, 26 May 2015, 22:50:12
Big Update! Sending off renders to Massdrop. Hopefully I will get a date as to when the GB will start soon!(http://replygif.net/i/237.gif)
Post by: jsbradley7 on Tue, 26 May 2015, 23:03:49
Thinking this set would look good on a Cherry G80/1 1800 - dyed/painted of course :D
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 27 May 2015, 05:26:49
Big Update! Sending off renders to Massdrop. Hopefully I will get a date as to when the GB will start soon!Thanks for the update.
These decisions... Jukebox*, Modern Selectric, Carbon*... :rolleyes:
*current favourites
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 May 2015, 12:21:45
When I got my original quotes, Jukebox will originally start at $115 for the whole base kit that covers TKL, and Winkeyless, with a few novelties.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 May 2015, 12:23:45
lol! Had a similar reaction myself upon reading livingspeedbump's post.
Thinking this set would look good on a Cherry G80/1 1800 - dyed/painted of course :D
I think it would look totally badass on a chrome or pink case modeled after a 50's Chevy Bel Air haha
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 27 May 2015, 12:26:16
I only got the Modern selectric alphas, the modifiers are SOOOOOOO expensive, its insane. I think a lot of this is due to how many custom keys that had to make for it.Yeah, that's why I'm no longer considering it at the moment. I definitely can't get all of them. The Ergodox kit is also super expensive, because all the modifiers have legends.
When I got my original quotes, Jukebox will originally start at $115 for the whole base kit that covers TKL, and Winkeyless, with a few novelties.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 May 2015, 12:34:15
Though these are just things that have to be considered when developing a kit. Getting the community feedback/quotes from PMK ahead of time are always useful. When you just rush through it all big surprises like that can happen and really make the kit useless because so many things wont tip.
Post by: Liar on Thu, 28 May 2015, 02:54:57
Or perhaps a reverse-color gaming alphas kit (WASD + ERFG)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:59:08
I know it's late in the process to be making requests, but how about a reverse-color alphas kit?
Or perhaps a reverse-color gaming alphas kit (WASD + ERFG)
Honestly, I don't think there's nearly enough interest for a full set of reverse-color alphas, people seem to really dig cream color alphas from the feedback I've gotten. The gaming kit isn't a bad idea, but I'm already in the process of submitting everything. Because I am trying to give a base kit that is as compatible as possible, I really had to weed out the keys that I didn't think would be needed, and WASD keys, though fun, aren't a necessity.
That being said after the original run on Massdrop I will be open to running a few extra child kits. I could post a reverse color alpha kit in the interest check on PMK when it reopens, but it would need at least 50-100 votes just on that kit alone. The WASD kit can also be posted, I'm sure that won't be hard to tip for an extra 5-7 bucks in the store, especially for everyone that already has the set. I think it will be much cheaper to get the base + available child deals on Massdrop than PMK later on.
Thanks for the input!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 29 May 2015, 11:13:43
I am very pleased to tell everyone that this set should show up on Massdrop sometime between this weekend and the next weekend ;D
Thanks everyone for all their input and support, especially Wilba and Engicoder!
I will create a GB thread after it drops.
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 29 May 2015, 11:14:53
Another Big Update!Super excited! ;D :cool:
I am very pleased to tell everyone that this set should show up on Massdrop sometime between this weekend and the next weekend ;D
Thanks everyone for all their input and support, especially Wilba and Engicoder!
I will create a GB thread after it drops.
Can you disclose the price already? Still $115?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 29 May 2015, 11:19:37
I added 4 small keys since my last quote, so I assume right around there though, yes. I will update that when I know!
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 29 May 2015, 11:20:41
Another Big Update!
I am very pleased to tell everyone that this set should show up on Massdrop sometime between this weekend and the next weekend ;D
Thanks everyone for all their input and support, especially Wilba and Engicoder!
I will create a GB thread after it drops.
Can't wait! I like this set so much, I may buy two so I have one at home and at work :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 29 May 2015, 11:38:20
Really glad you like it :thumb:
Won't lie, I'm buying 2 or 3 as well haha.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 29 May 2015, 23:51:59
The kits have been altered so there are more kits, but smaller. Essentially you won't really get any keys you don't specifically need. In my discussion with Massdrop they made the good point that just having a lower base price will make the set visibly cheaper without clicking on it and hopefully increase sales by making it more affordable. If I decide to ever run this kit again though the PMK store I should mention that it will be with a full kit as originally planned, perhaps even with the numpad added and very few child deals (now that any child deals in the store will also need 50 votes). If all goes well I may hold the set for a year or so and let Massdrop simply run the next set as well. I digress, I'm getting ahead of myself here, I just want to make sure everyone knows exactly what is going on, you all deserve to know!
For now lets concentrate on the current drop!
Base pricing should hit somewhere between 49-59 (target price here). Regardless this should end up being a relatively affordable set :thumb:
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 30 May 2015, 07:01:26
Base pricing should hit somewhere between 49-59 (target price here). Regardless this should end up being a relatively affordable set :thumb:
Was hoping you would give it another week or so since Retro GB is due to finish next week as well.
Give some time for fellow geekhacker wallets to build up their weight yet again before their usual, monetary disembowelment 8) .
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 30 May 2015, 11:46:50
I'll mention that though (im in on retro as well) and see about a possible week delay :thumb:
Post by: zabuza1997 on Sun, 31 May 2015, 23:48:13
Another Big Update!
I am very pleased to tell everyone that this set should show up on Massdrop sometime between this weekend and the next weekend ;D
Thanks everyone for all their input and support, especially Wilba and Engicoder!
I will create a GB thread after it drops.
wow
I'm so freaking out of my mind to hear this
I guess i shoud sell one of my kidneys to jump in this GB :p :p :p :p
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 31 May 2015, 23:59:58
The plan as of Friday was to have it up this weekend, but Melissa left early and we didn't have quotes. Wasn't a bad thing. I redid a lot of the child deals/base kit to be a bit smaller and more affordable by breaking them up. This was a request by Massdrop. There was a bit more to it, but their logic was very sound. We are aiming at around $50-$60 for the base set. I should have quotes if not the actual pricing tiers for you tomorrow.
I also requested the drop be held off until this upcoming weekend/next monday. Retro will finish this week and myself along with tons of other people are in on that, so a little extra wallet recover time would be nice as suggested by a few people here.
End of the day, the set WILL drop within a week, hopefully at some good price points (we are expecting it to do a little better than the last few PMK sets and at least getting a nice low price, especially now for the base kit).
Thanks for following the thread though! I really hope you enjoy the set!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:06:31
It's almost here.......
(Thanks to Nostril for the render ;) )
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:14:25
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c4eLrRx.png)
It's almost here.......
(Thanks to Nostril for the render ;) )
This is going to be an expensive summer...
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:29:33
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c4eLrRx.png)
It's almost here.......
(Thanks to Nostril for the render ;) )
This is going to be an expensive summer...
Not exactly a cheap Winter here either........
Just have to sustain multiple hits in the wallet's backside all through this season and hope that at the end of it, nothing is permanently damaged.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:30:47
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c4eLrRx.png)
It's almost here.......
(Thanks to Nostril for the render ;) )
This is going to be an expensive summer...
Not exactly a cheap Winter here either........
Just have to sustain multiple hits in the wallet's backside all through this season and hope that at the end of it, nothing is permanently damaged.
hopefully that extra week happen, definitely was a solid suggestion. thanks!
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:24:24
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:29:11
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c4eLrRx.png)
It's almost here.......
(Thanks to Nostril for the render ;) )
This is going to be an expensive summer...
Not exactly a cheap Winter here either........
Just have to sustain multiple hits in the wallet's backside all through this season and hope that at the end of it, nothing is permanently damaged.
hopefully that extra week happen, definitely was a solid suggestion. thanks!
Extra week would be nice, I just dropped 200$ on SA Retro. I get paid Friday though so no worries if there is no delay :). All these group buys are killing my wallet, I for sure want these and the black on black dye subs Ivan has running, I am going to pass on Modern Selectric.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:39:44
I sadly passed on Modern Selectric too. The modifier price is really what drove me away. I'd have bought it up in a heartbeat if a standard text modifier option was available.
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:49:22
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 June 2015, 23:50:00
Massdrop listened to the request to push the drop back a bit. The drop will be at the end of next week (June 12-14ish). They will be dropping a DSA set tomorrow where Jukebox would have been. This was a community request, and I've tried my best to listen to every bit of input I could along the way. I think it works well as the drop should finish right As usual, this was a very good request, it give everyone (myself included) a bit of time to recover from Retro.
Pricing is being worked on now, but he says its looking good so hopefully it is around the target range he wanted (50-60 for the base). I'll let everyone know more on that when I know, should be a day or two.
I just thought I should confirm the drop dates here for everyone so you know its coming! Start saving!
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 02 June 2015, 01:35:05
Hey everyone! I have some concrete news for ya,
Massdrop listened to the request to push the drop back a bit. The drop will be at the end of next week (June 12-14ish). They will be dropping a DSA set tomorrow where Jukebox would have been. This was a community request, and I've tried my best to listen to every bit of input I could along the way. I think it works well as the drop should finish right As usual, this was a very good request, it give everyone (myself included) a bit of time to recover from Retro.
Pricing is being worked on now, but he says its looking good so hopefully it is around the target range he wanted (50-60 for the base). I'll let everyone know more on that when I know, should be a day or two.
I just thought I should confirm the drop dates here for everyone so you know its coming! Start saving!
Great news! Thanks for the update. Time to join Massdrop finally :)
Post by: seville57 on Tue, 02 June 2015, 07:24:57
Hey everyone! I have some concrete news for ya,Great, good news.
Massdrop listened to the request to push the drop back a bit. The drop will be at the end of next week (June 12-14ish). They will be dropping a DSA set tomorrow where Jukebox would have been. This was a community request, and I've tried my best to listen to every bit of input I could along the way. I think it works well as the drop should finish right As usual, this was a very good request, it give everyone (myself included) a bit of time to recover from Retro.
Pricing is being worked on now, but he says its looking good so hopefully it is around the target range he wanted (50-60 for the base). I'll let everyone know more on that when I know, should be a day or two.
I just thought I should confirm the drop dates here for everyone so you know its coming! Start saving!
Post by: ImDaBaron on Tue, 02 June 2015, 09:23:01
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 02 June 2015, 09:50:09
There could also be different times for different profiles. Good question though, I'll report back when I have something concrete for you. End of the day I'd rather SP be honest about time than have huge delays.
Post by: ImDaBaron on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:08:25
Not sure yet, since Massdrop is handling the set they are doing most of the talking to SP now. Obviously it shouldn't take that long, 4-6 weeks seems to be the norm for SP now. Its an odd time with all the new stuff they are doing there though so I'm honestly not sure.
There could also be different times for different profiles. Good question though, I'll report back when I have something concrete for you. End of the day I'd rather SP be honest about time than have huge delays.
Thanks man I appreciate it. Only reason I ask is because my living situation may change around that time.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:29:01
Post by: zabuza1997 on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:18:18
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 03 June 2015, 21:23:59
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 03 June 2015, 21:34:39
Wow, so this really comes true :v
Yes, definitely happening! Jukebox was supposed to be this week, but it switched with the galaxy DSA set so it should drop right after that :)
Post by: zabuza1997 on Thu, 04 June 2015, 01:00:55
Viva SA!!!DSA sucksWow, so this really comes true :v
Yes, definitely happening! Jukebox was supposed to be this week, but it switched with the galaxy DSA set so it should drop right after that :)
Post by: seville57 on Thu, 04 June 2015, 14:51:11
http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEEQtwIwBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhsjI7ekciZs&ei=eqxwVejCG4mgsAG1u7SwDw&usg=AFQjCNHasIRRQ1URsyAdaAfB3GSPXF-D9Q
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 04 June 2015, 23:14:04
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 07 June 2015, 21:23:32
It will be on massdrop by next weekend!
Give it the full 13 (or more) day wait period, the longer it sits on MassDrop, higher the numbers of people signing up for them :thumb: .
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 07 June 2015, 21:44:30
It will be on massdrop by next weekend!
Give it the full 13 (or more) day wait period, the longer it sits on MassDrop, higher the numbers of people signing up for them :thumb: .
I've requested that they give it as long as they can. I was all about doing this in a timely manner, but I've tried pretty hard not to just rush through everything either :thumb:
Post by: tlegrone on Mon, 08 June 2015, 16:51:56
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 08 June 2015, 17:00:17
Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?
unfortunately I can't make any more changes now. i tried to take all the input possible, and could have put one in had anyone requested it earlier. sorry!
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 08 June 2015, 18:41:11
Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?
unfortunately I can't make any more changes now. i tried to take all the input possible, and could have put one in had anyone requested it earlier. sorry!
Hey can I get a R7 set for the alphabet of the Quechua languages of pre-Columbian South America? I can't believe you don't have that. And what about an HHKB-compatible set for the nomadic Pashtun tribes of South Central Asia?
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 08 June 2015, 18:56:51
Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?
unfortunately I can't make any more changes now. i tried to take all the input possible, and could have put one in had anyone requested it earlier. sorry!
Hey can I get a R7 set for the alphabet of the Quechua languages of pre-Columbian South America? I can't believe you don't have that. And what about an HHKB-compatible set for the nomadic Pashtun tribes of South Central Asia?
I lol'd
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 08 June 2015, 19:01:54
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bkzVxHz.jpg)
I'm ready.....Brown switches instead of blue to be nice to coworkers. but blue numpad when things get crazy. But when a paper or project is due I plan on buying a pok3r blue switch with Danger Zone keycaps for the "Big Guns"
TLDR Browns (Jukebox) playing cool with the guys, Blues (Danger Zone)when its time to go to war.
Do you have any more pics of that numpad? How did you color the case?
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 09 June 2015, 07:55:27
Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?I don't expect this 1-post user to respond, but why on earth would you want a R4 tilde? You realize SA R4 is the bottom row (ZXC...), right?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:20:53
Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?I don't expect this 1-post user to respond, but why on earth would you want a R4 tilde? You realize SA R4 is the bottom row (ZXC...), right?
I was kind of wondering that myself.
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:38:19
The Poker II allows to have Tilde on the Right Ctrl position (via DIP switch).Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?I don't expect this 1-post user to respond, but why on earth would you want a R4 tilde? You realize SA R4 is the bottom row (ZXC...), right?
I was kind of wondering that myself.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:59:56
The Poker II allows to have Tilde on the Right Ctrl position (via DIP switch).Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?I don't expect this 1-post user to respond, but why on earth would you want a R4 tilde? You realize SA R4 is the bottom row (ZXC...), right?
I was kind of wondering that myself.
I knew it had to be something like that, which is why I didn't want to just laugh off the idea. Still, I don't see a whole lot of interest in this, unless i do a non-standard-non-standard child deal. I'll run a poll though and do what people want though :thumb:
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 09 June 2015, 09:04:29
Agreed. There's always another key that can be added...The Poker II allows to have Tilde on the Right Ctrl position (via DIP switch).Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?I don't expect this 1-post user to respond, but why on earth would you want a R4 tilde? You realize SA R4 is the bottom row (ZXC...), right?
I was kind of wondering that myself.
I knew it had to be something like that, which is why I didn't want to just laugh off the idea. Still, I don't see a whole lot of interest in this, unless i do a non-standard-non-standard child deal. I'll run a poll though and do what people want though :thumb:
Post by: tlegrone on Tue, 09 June 2015, 10:28:28
Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?
unfortunately I can't make any more changes now. i tried to take all the input possible, and could have put one in had anyone requested it earlier. sorry!
That's ok. I'm new to this site and I should've signed up a long time ago to ask about it.
Maybe next time :)
Post by: tlegrone on Tue, 09 June 2015, 10:33:31
Agreed. There's always another key that can be added...The Poker II allows to have Tilde on the Right Ctrl position (via DIP switch).I was kind of wondering that myself.Would there be any possibility of a R4 tilde/backtic key in the non-standard child set?I don't expect this 1-post user to respond, but why on earth would you want a R4 tilde? You realize SA R4 is the bottom row (ZXC...), right?
I knew it had to be something like that, which is why I didn't want to just laugh off the idea. Still, I don't see a whole lot of interest in this, unless i do a non-standard-non-standard child deal. I'll run a poll though and do what people want though :thumb:
I probably wouldn't have responded if I didn't come back looking to see if I got a response. I don't quite understand how this forum works yet as I just signed up yesterday.
But yes, it's because I switched my right ctrl with tilde on my pokerII. I realize it's probably a rare case. But you never know unless you ask, amiright?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 June 2015, 10:51:46
I will have a poll before the additional child deals go up on PMK in a few months, so I'll make sure this is an option! Thanks for the input :)
Post by: tlegrone on Tue, 09 June 2015, 13:20:43
Well welcome!
I will have a poll before the additional child deals go up on PMK in a few months, so I'll make sure this is an option! Thanks for the input :)
Thanks!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 10 June 2015, 23:44:19
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 10 June 2015, 23:54:02
Dropping Friday or Saturday :)
Can't wait!
Post by: tlegrone on Thu, 11 June 2015, 10:48:01
Dropping Friday or Saturday :)
YUSSS
Post by: skycrimes on Thu, 11 June 2015, 14:45:40
Post by: simonyunhe on Thu, 11 June 2015, 18:32:38
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 11 June 2015, 21:11:54
Post by: ImDaBaron on Thu, 11 June 2015, 21:18:18
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 11 June 2015, 21:24:56
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 11 June 2015, 22:44:20
This will be the link, goes live 6am PST
Pricing is almost exactly the same as SA Retro after shipping. I currently can't see the pricing as I don't have access to the page anymore either, but nothing crazy.
Thanks SOOO much to everyone that followed this and helped make it happen, this set would definitely not be happening without all of you awesome cats :thumb:
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 12 June 2015, 01:12:37
Post by: seville57 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 03:16:45
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 12 June 2015, 03:41:05
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/jukebox-sa-keyset
This will be the link, goes live 6am PST
Pricing is almost exactly the same as SA Retro after shipping. I currently can't see the pricing as I don't have access to the page anymore either, but nothing crazy.
Thanks SOOO much to everyone that followed this and helped make it happen, this set would definitely not be happening without all of you awesome cats :thumb:
Fantastic news! I'll be one of your first orders :)
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:05:32
Post by: blastoid on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:06:43
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:13:54
Damn, I'm 5th! I wanted to be first! :pFound the first. (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/39ku1m/buying_jukebox_sa_on_massdrop/cs469h4) Send your pitchforks that way. :p
Post by: jsbradley7 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:20:41
3rd
1st GHer?
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:26:30
Post by: ImDaBaron on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:29:35
Post by: seville57 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:34:05
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:35:41
It looks like some of the R4 legends and the /r/mk legends are not correctly aligned :rolleyes:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:08:57
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:15:19
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XNgQNYE.png)
It looks like some of the R4 legends and the /r/mk legends are not correctly aligned :rolleyes:
Ok figured it out. The renders with the white background were a bit earlier, I have mentioned to make sure he uses the correctly aligned renders he has :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:29:13
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XNgQNYE.png)
It looks like some of the R4 legends and the /r/mk legends are not correctly aligned :rolleyes:
Ok figured it out. The renders with the white background were a bit earlier, I have mentioned to make sure he uses the correctly aligned renders he has :)
Post by: tlegrone on Fri, 12 June 2015, 10:52:04
(http://i.imgur.com/OwvybbM.png)
Post by: blastoid on Fri, 12 June 2015, 11:13:25
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 12 June 2015, 11:20:33
speedbump, you gonna make a post in the GB forum or what?
Doing that now :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:17:59
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72777.0 :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 26 November 2015, 14:08:39
Thanks for following this set the first go around! I'm finally starting things back up to prepare for Round 2, which will happen much sooner than later.
All content will be updated in the Original Post as I go, so any new info will be there as well as in the comments to make it easy for you to keep track of what is happening.
I will have new rough renders of my new kits in a few days for feedback and thoughts. New possible kits include Planck/Atomic/JD40, 75%, EergoDox, HiPro homing row, Row 4 Shifts (for people that already own the kit).
Massdrop will be running this kit again.
I am also going to talk with a few community members and develop some new novelties for Round 2, and will be taking out a few from round 1, just to keep each drop a little different.
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 26 November 2015, 15:08:39
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 November 2015, 15:56:39
Would definitely be interested in picking up some more novelties down the line
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 26 November 2015, 16:12:46
I'm in for 'HiPro homing row and Row 4 Shifts' at a minimum :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 26 November 2015, 16:24:53
Awesome!
I'm in for 'HiPro homing row and Row 4 Shifts' at a minimum :thumb:
Sweet! I did want to make sure existing owners had a few sets to pick from. I'm actually really stoked about the homing row. Never been done by a set for MX before, and I really love the way it feels.
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 26 November 2015, 16:54:33
Awesome!
I'm in for 'HiPro homing row and Row 4 Shifts' at a minimum :thumb:
Sweet! I did want to make sure existing owners had a few sets to pick from. I'm actually really stoked about the homing row. Never been done by a set for MX before, and I really love the way it feels.
Cannot wait :)
I think we may need to get all the SA sets re-run with Row 4 Shifts :p
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 26 November 2015, 18:19:42
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 26 November 2015, 18:27:20
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 November 2015, 19:18:03
Do you think jtk can come up with some 6u topre sa and dsa compatible caps?
From what I've heard they are very busy with adding support to the existing cherry profile caps
Best bet would be to lobby SP to get the molds made themselves
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:26:41
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:39:33
In the renders, the alpha keys look far from each other.
What do you mean?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:42:20
I know this is a weird niche thing, but I would really like a windows 95/98 key (whatever you want to call it). I would maybe be willing to pay for a mold.
Sorry, this isn't happening. Even if you do pay for a mold I'll have to stick it in a kit, and people that don't want it or care will still have to pay for it. I already trimmed out a lot of the "fat" with my existing novelty kit for the new kits as well, to get this down to being as affordable as always.
If someone wants to use the colors of Jukebox and make a buy for keys that fit the set, you are more than welcome.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:43:14
Do you think jtk can come up with some 6u topre sa and dsa compatible caps?
From what I've heard they are very busy with adding support to the existing cherry profile caps
Best bet would be to lobby SP to get the molds made themselves
Yeah, agreed. This is something that really only benefits them anyways in the long run, so there is no reason not to invest in them. :thumb:
Post by: Charizard on Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:14:14
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:20:15
I know this is a weird niche thing, but I would really like a windows 95/98 key (whatever you want to call it). I would maybe be willing to pay for a mold.
Sorry, this isn't happening. Even if you do pay for a mold I'll have to stick it in a kit, and people that don't want it or care will still have to pay for it. I already trimmed out a lot of the "fat" with my existing novelty kit for the new kits as well, to get this down to being as affordable as always.
If someone wants to use the colors of Jukebox and make a buy for keys that fit the set, you are more than welcome.
I understand. Might consider a buy, but as I said, the interest wouldn't really be there most likely. Thanks for the go-ahead in any case.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:29:36
I know this is a weird niche thing, but I would really like a windows 95/98 key (whatever you want to call it). I would maybe be willing to pay for a mold.
Sorry, this isn't happening. Even if you do pay for a mold I'll have to stick it in a kit, and people that don't want it or care will still have to pay for it. I already trimmed out a lot of the "fat" with my existing novelty kit for the new kits as well, to get this down to being as affordable as always.
If someone wants to use the colors of Jukebox and make a buy for keys that fit the set, you are more than welcome.
I understand. Might consider a buy, but as I said, the interest wouldn't really be there most likely. Thanks for the go-ahead in any case.
You could always try pairing it with a few other, related keys, or something :thumb:
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 26 November 2015, 22:31:44
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 27 November 2015, 05:48:38
In the renders, the alpha keys look far from each other.
They are, it's an old, old
(http://i.imgur.com/r7GaF9f.png)
Post by: Dongulator on Sat, 28 November 2015, 16:16:59
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 28 November 2015, 16:18:44
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?
Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them :thumb:
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 28 November 2015, 18:59:05
This is a first! (I think)So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?
Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them :thumb:
Most of the time you just have to deal with not having a extra left shift key every gb I've seen.
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 28 November 2015, 20:15:41
What changes are up for this next round?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 28 November 2015, 21:08:07
Definitely in for a set of round2s
What changes are up for this next round?
That's what like the last two pages of this thread are about.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:33:13
This is a first! (I think)So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?
Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them :thumb:
Most of the time you just have to deal with not having a extra left shift key every gb I've seen.
Yeah, its about time this becomes a standard inclusion I think.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:37:26
Yeah, its about time this becomes a standard inclusion I think.
I have to admit, I've never really understood the problems people always have finding an extra left shift, I alway just trade ISO users for them, but it'll be really nice to have it all taken care of and integrated into the kit.
Post by: Dongulator on Sun, 29 November 2015, 16:06:58
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?
Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them :thumb:
So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 29 November 2015, 16:57:43
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?
Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them :thumb:
So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?
Uh, it will still just be MX caps, so if you want to use them on a 660C and not a 660M you'll still need the sliders. I'm just throwing in the needed keys to accommodate for the layout.
Post by: Dongulator on Sun, 29 November 2015, 18:06:59
So for R2 what is the probability of a fc660c set?
Yeah the 660C/M will be taken into consideration, and the proper keys will be provided in a kit. Not sure if the adapter kit, or another kit, but I will have them :thumb:
So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?
Uh, it will still just be MX caps, so if you want to use them on a 660C and not a 660M you'll still need the sliders. I'm just throwing in the needed keys to accommodate for the layout.
:) That's what I figured, thought something amazing happened :|
Post by: E3E on Sun, 29 November 2015, 20:19:23
Hey everyone!
Thanks for following this set the first go around! I'm finally starting things back up to prepare for Round 2, which will happen much sooner than later.
All content will be updated in the Original Post as I go, so any new info will be there as well as in the comments to make it easy for you to keep track of what is happening.
I will have new rough renders of my new kits in a few days for feedback and thoughts. New possible kits include Planck/Atomic/JD40, 75%, EergoDox, HiPro homing row, Row 4 Shifts (for people that already own the kit).
Massdrop will be running this kit again.
I am also going to talk with a few community members and develop some new novelties for Round 2, and will be taking out a few from round 1, just to keep each drop a little different.
Count me in for 75% of course, all row 4 revisions, new novelties, aaaand... Wait, what's a HiPro homing row?
EDIT: Read the notes on that in the OP! I had no idea the Realforce HiPro had that sort of homing row, but that sounds amazing. I'm in for one of those as well! :thumb:
Post by: tippington on Wed, 09 December 2015, 15:53:29
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 09 December 2015, 17:46:00
So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?
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Post by: Dongulator on Wed, 09 December 2015, 18:36:51
So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?
(Attachment Link)
A man can only dream... Fc660c needs more support.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 09 December 2015, 19:13:59
So, is going to be an entire topre set, or would we need topre to cherry sliders?
(Attachment Link)
A man can only dream... Fc660c needs more support.
yeah, definitely will be supported! i keep needing to finalize the renders, these recent pings helped remind me. Ill get my working stuff up tomorrow for people to give input on hopefully!
Post by: e_l_tang on Fri, 11 December 2015, 23:25:30
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 12 December 2015, 01:58:23
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.
Post by: e_l_tang on Sat, 12 December 2015, 02:02:43
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.
I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?
Post by: Steezus on Sat, 12 December 2015, 13:26:31
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.
I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?
You're not doing anything wrong but it's previous obvious that it's not a common design if you needed to ask three separate designers. When it comes to sets everybody can't have what they want so generally there is a design for the populous to agree on.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 12 December 2015, 14:01:48
Post by: e_l_tang on Sat, 12 December 2015, 14:14:10
Yes, I was perhaps a bit too harsh. It sounds from what you're proposing though that you would end up with mismatched profiles, and nobody wants that.
Well, almost every spacebar has a different profile from the rest of the keys in its row, so can't the profiles of the keys on the bottom row already be considered mismatched?
I was making these suggestions for ergonomics reasons: If they were taken, my thumbs wouldn't have to press on sharp corners while using the Alt keys and the number pad 0 keys and my middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle when it moves from the up arrow key to the down arrow key and back.
Post by: pomk on Sat, 12 December 2015, 15:02:10
Well, almost every spacebar has a different profile from the rest of the keys in its row, so can't the profiles of the keys on the bottom row already be considered mismatched?
I was making these suggestions for ergonomics reasons: If they were taken, my thumbs wouldn't have to press on sharp corners while using the Alt keys and the number pad 0 keys and my middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle when it moves from the up arrow key to the down arrow key and back.
Just turn the row 4 keys 180 degrees and you get an even milder angle against your thumbs when compared to row 3.
Post by: e_l_tang on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:11:11
Well, almost every spacebar has a different profile from the rest of the keys in its row, so can't the profiles of the keys on the bottom row already be considered mismatched?
I was making these suggestions for ergonomics reasons: If they were taken, my thumbs wouldn't have to press on sharp corners while using the Alt keys and the number pad 0 keys and my middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle when it moves from the up arrow key to the down arrow key and back.
Just turn the row 4 keys 180 degrees and you get an even milder angle against your thumbs when compared to row 3.
But then all the legends are upside-down …
Post by: unoab on Sat, 12 December 2015, 16:24:33
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.
I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?
You're not doing anything wrong but it's previous obvious that it's not a common design if you needed to ask three separate designers. When it comes to sets everybody can't have what they want so generally there is a design for the populous to agree on.
To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets. Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5a) that is how all those sets are profiled. So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.
Post by: e_l_tang on Sat, 12 December 2015, 19:27:07
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Why are you going around and making this exact post on every keycap thread? This doesn't make any sense for a number of reasons.
I only made it on three that were each started by a different designer … am I doing anything wrong by asking them an honest question?
You're not doing anything wrong but it's previous obvious that it's not a common design if you needed to ask three separate designers. When it comes to sets everybody can't have what they want so generally there is a design for the populous to agree on.
To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets. Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5a) that is how all those sets are profiled. So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.
Thanks, man! I think that convex Alt keys and number pad 0 keys would be boss, but unfortunately those molds don't exist yet :(
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 12 December 2015, 19:28:48
To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets. Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5a) that is how all those sets are profiled. So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.
That's not what I'm talking about. I don't care what he wants the bottom profile to be, as long as the bottom profile is all uniform. He elaborated on a different thread that he wanted only some keys on the row as R3, which I just think would be ugly.
Post by: unoab on Sat, 12 December 2015, 22:30:12
To be fair to him, that was the standard design before people determined that there were R4 1.25u mods in semi-matte surface finishes and started making spherical sets match the profiles used on cherry sets. Also, I believe 7bit prefers R3 mods too since there are no convex bottom row mods available in SA, and if you look at round 5(a) (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5a) that is how all those sets are profiled. So he was just asking for what used to be the standard instead of the new flavor people like.
That's not what I'm talking about. I don't care what he wants the bottom profile to be, as long as the bottom profile is all uniform. He elaborated on a different thread that he wanted only some keys on the row as R3, which I just think would be ugly.
Ah, I didn't see that other thread, I figured by the mentioning of "thumbs" in this thread it was referring to the bottom most row. I was also primarily replying to Steezus saying it was "not a common design", which it seems quite common and on several sets I have (bottom row as R3 that is), so if he only meant a handful of keys, then yea, that is not so common.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 13 December 2015, 17:39:36
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 13 December 2015, 17:42:20
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!
Post by: e_l_tang on Sun, 13 December 2015, 22:58:22
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!
I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:50:19
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!
I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.
1. Round 2 of Jukebox must be fully integrated and swappable with the first one. I want the buyers that supported the first buy to be able to buy the new novelty packs and colors and be able to swap them out with their Round 1 set without having to buy a full new base set. This reason alone makes the sculpting set in stone. This is not something that will change.
2. I think the slightly upward sculpt is comfortable, more so than row 3. Other designers have felt the same as well. Sets like Round 5, Calm Depths, Commando, Penumbra, etc all have R4 as the bottom row. R4 is MADE as a bottom row.
3. I think a bottom R3 looks a little dumb. Not a fan.
I feel like the reasons I gave before were pretty definitive, especially the swapping with sets. It's also a proven sculpting, I am not the only one here that likes it. Many really highly regarded sets have a similar/same sculpt.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:51:38
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:52:41
And then there are us crazy cherry nerds who like R5 :p
Haha, yeah but with Cherry profile R5 makes sense. :thumb:
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:54:38
And then there are us crazy cherry nerds who like R5 :p
Haha, yeah but with Cherry profile R5 makes sense. :thumb:
A surprisingly large number of people try to get GMK sets produced with an R4 bottom row. Sometimes it seems like me and ideus are the only ones who want R5
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:55:27
And then there are us crazy cherry nerds who like R5 :p
Haha, yeah but with Cherry profile R5 makes sense. :thumb:
A surprisingly large number of people try to get GMK sets produced with an R4 bottom row. Sometimes it seems like me and ideus are the only ones who want R5
I think a lot just havent tried it either. Not super common really.
Post by: E3E on Mon, 14 December 2015, 09:56:41
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!
I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.
Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that these sets are usually always collaborative efforts between the community and the designer, and so sometimes compromises have to be made to keep the set universally satisfying and compatible (and this in turn helps with reaching MQO in some cases!). I think if your idea was implemented, it'd go against the preferences of the majority, not to mention throw off the row profile on a 65% or 75% board.
You kind of just have to roll with what you get and make the best of it! Accommodations are sometimes made; I think LSB is going to add 75% support to this second round (it looks like the Planck/Atomic set might be the pack that will also shoehorn 75% support), but with the first drop, I had to rock a '5' key on row 3 of the 16th column, since there was no compatible key for it.
Post by: E3E on Mon, 14 December 2015, 10:24:22
(http://i.imgur.com/UFYuRfS.jpg)
I got custom cases made by intelli for my Octagon and Lightpad based around this set! Looove 'em. :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 14 December 2015, 12:45:36
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!
I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.
Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that these sets are usually always collaborative efforts between the community and the designer, and so sometimes compromises have to be made to keep the set universally satisfying and compatible (and this in turn helps with reaching MQO in some cases!). I think if your idea was implemented, it'd go against the preferences of the majority, not to mention throw off the row profile on a 65% or 75% board.
You kind of just have to roll with what you get and make the best of it! Accommodations are sometimes made; I think LSB is going to add 75% support to this second round (it looks like the Planck/Atomic set might be the pack that will also shoehorn 75% support), but with the first drop, I had to rock a '5' key on row 3 of the 16th column, since there was no compatible key for it.
yeah ill post your 75% kit in a day or two!
Post by: E3E on Mon, 14 December 2015, 13:20:45
Have you thought about making the up arrow keys and all the keys that are meant to be pressed by the thumbs in R3 rather than R4?
Nah, I'm a pretty big fan of R4, both feel and aesthetic wise. I can understand wanting R3, but thats just one of the little details I don't want to change this go around. Another reason not to change as well is that I'll be adding a few new novelties, thus mixing and matching from both sets wouldn't be possible if i changed my profile now. Fair question though!
I don't understand … can you please explain why you like it better for the keys I mentioned to be in R4 rather than R3? If they were R3, my thumbs wouldn't have to hit sharp corners on the Alt keys and my right middle finger wouldn't have to hurdle over one when it moves from the down arrow key to the up arrow key.
Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that these sets are usually always collaborative efforts between the community and the designer, and so sometimes compromises have to be made to keep the set universally satisfying and compatible (and this in turn helps with reaching MQO in some cases!). I think if your idea was implemented, it'd go against the preferences of the majority, not to mention throw off the row profile on a 65% or 75% board.
You kind of just have to roll with what you get and make the best of it! Accommodations are sometimes made; I think LSB is going to add 75% support to this second round (it looks like the Planck/Atomic set might be the pack that will also shoehorn 75% support), but with the first drop, I had to rock a '5' key on row 3 of the 16th column, since there was no compatible key for it.
yeah ill post your 75% kit in a day or two!
Sweet! Sounds good. Thanks, man. :D
Post by: derezzed on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:04:57
Post by: MiTo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:32:47
(https://i.imgur.com/UROsdsi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vwmYL3o.jpg)
Post by: Butter on Sun, 27 December 2015, 21:38:39
Post by: Charizard on Sat, 16 January 2016, 09:46:06
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 16 January 2016, 11:22:41
Any update on when r2 is going live?
I know a few other big sets are dropping first, even at 1 a month it should only be a few months away tops. On the meantime I am trying to conjure up the best additional kits. will start posting them when i know a date to ramp up the interest then :thumb:
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 16 January 2016, 17:31:03
Any update on when r2 is going live?
I know a few other big sets are dropping first, even at 1 a month it should only be a few months away tops. On the meantime I am trying to conjure up the best additional kits. will start posting them when i know a date to ramp up the interest then :thumb:
Well, I guess I'll just have to try to be patient =P
Post by: DaveW on Sat, 16 January 2016, 19:26:17
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 16 January 2016, 21:27:10
So happy to hear there will be a round 2 for this. Love the look of this set and having gotten into mechanical keyboards less than two months ago, I feel like I missed all the awesome looking sets.
There will always be more. I said the same thing a year ago.
Post by: Burt Macklin on Mon, 18 January 2016, 05:08:09
So happy to hear there will be a round 2 for this. Love the look of this set and having gotten into mechanical keyboards less than two months ago, I feel like I missed all the awesome looking sets.
Join the club ;D
Sometimes I'm wondering exactly how I've managed to miss all that cool stuff ..
it's not that I didn't know about the mechanicals, I guess it's just hard to see how deep the rabbit hole goes when looking from the outside.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 12:07:15
If you have any feedback on existing sets, please let me know! If there is anything you'd like to see, please let me know as well! I am considering adding some blue keys in with the alt. color pack to use instead of the red, let me know if you dig that idea, I need to gauge if that is worth it or not.
Thanks!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 20 January 2016, 13:20:45
Hey Everyone! Rolled out a big update with some new kits. The last big kit I am working on is a "funky size" kit, for those 65%/75% keyboards. I hope to include as many options as possible in this. Things like the White Fox/Octogon, Smart68, FC660, etc, will be considerd.
If you have any feedback on existing sets, please let me know! If there is anything you'd like to see, please let me know as well! I am considering adding some blue keys in with the alt. color pack to use instead of the red, let me know if you dig that idea, I need to gauge if that is worth it or not.
Thanks!
Thanks for the update! Can't wait for round 2 to go live!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 13:21:20
Hey Everyone! Rolled out a big update with some new kits. The last big kit I am working on is a "funky size" kit, for those 65%/75% keyboards. I hope to include as many options as possible in this. Things like the White Fox/Octogon, Smart68, FC660, etc, will be considerd.
If you have any feedback on existing sets, please let me know! If there is anything you'd like to see, please let me know as well! I am considering adding some blue keys in with the alt. color pack to use instead of the red, let me know if you dig that idea, I need to gauge if that is worth it or not.
Thanks!
Thanks for the update! Can't wait for round 2 to go live!
Sure thing!
Post by: FLFisherman on Wed, 20 January 2016, 13:24:31
Hey Everyone! Rolled out a big update with some new kits. The last big kit I am working on is a "funky size" kit, for those 65%/75% keyboards. I hope to include as many options as possible in this. Things like the White Fox/Octogon, Smart68, FC660, etc, will be considerd.
If you have any feedback on existing sets, please let me know! If there is anything you'd like to see, please let me know as well! I am considering adding some blue keys in with the alt. color pack to use instead of the red, let me know if you dig that idea, I need to gauge if that is worth it or not.
Thanks!
Thanks for the update! Can't wait for round 2 to go live!
Sure thing!
Someone needs to buy my round 1 set so I can afford round 2.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 13:28:54
Hey Everyone! Rolled out a big update with some new kits. The last big kit I am working on is a "funky size" kit, for those 65%/75% keyboards. I hope to include as many options as possible in this. Things like the White Fox/Octogon, Smart68, FC660, etc, will be considerd.
If you have any feedback on existing sets, please let me know! If there is anything you'd like to see, please let me know as well! I am considering adding some blue keys in with the alt. color pack to use instead of the red, let me know if you dig that idea, I need to gauge if that is worth it or not.
Thanks!
Thanks for the update! Can't wait for round 2 to go live!
Sure thing!
Someone needs to buy my round 1 set so I can afford round 2.
You should be able to just add any kits you want onto what you have. The base kit is more or less staying exactly the same :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:55:35
Post by: moonk5 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 15:41:20
I definitely want to be in for next round. Any specific schedule?
Post by: Zapheo on Wed, 20 January 2016, 15:53:16
Hey Everyone! Rolled out a big update with some new kits. The last big kit I am working on is a "funky size" kit, for those 65%/75% keyboards. I hope to include as many options as possible in this. Things like the White Fox/Octogon, Smart68, FC660, etc, will be considerd.
If you have any feedback on existing sets, please let me know! If there is anything you'd like to see, please let me know as well! I am considering adding some blue keys in with the alt. color pack to use instead of the red, let me know if you dig that idea, I need to gauge if that is worth it or not.
Thanks!
Please please pleeeaase make a 75% kit! :D
Post by: Alex92 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:45:41
The forum keys are good, but I prefer using a red escape key with this set.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:55:22
How many people joined for the first round?
I definitely want to be in for next round. Any specific schedule?
Hm, 300ish maybe. Drop will happen for sure in 2-3 months :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 16:55:46
I'd like to see some more R1 red novelty keys :)
The forum keys are good, but I prefer using a red escape key with this set.
I can work on that! I do too :)
Post by: geezfools on Wed, 20 January 2016, 17:03:44
Post by: Alex92 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 17:10:57
I'd like to see some more R1 red novelty keys :)
The forum keys are good, but I prefer using a red escape key with this set.
I can work on that! I do too :)
Yay :D
Post by: moonk5 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 17:28:57
How many people joined for the first round?
I definitely want to be in for next round. Any specific schedule?
Hm, 300ish maybe. Drop will happen for sure in 2-3 months :thumb:
Awesome! Count me in ;D
BTW, I really respect your design for Jukebox!
Post by: skaloola on Wed, 20 January 2016, 17:52:31
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 18:37:01
icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:06:12
icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
I'd love to see some icon mods as an option!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:09:25
icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
I'd love to see some icon mods as an option!
Ill see if any other designers will let me use their molds, because it would make things more expensive than i would want to fund new ones with this set.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:11:51
I would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to some color-accurate pictures of this set. I bailed on the round 1 drop at the last minute because, after examining the color chip, I thought the alphas were a little too brown for my taste. I was hoping that seeing the actual product on keyboards would help me make a decision on whether to purchase round 2. Since round 1 has completed, I've seen a few images of this set, but the colors vary. In some images, the alphas are off-white. In other images, the alphas are tan. I've seen a few images where the alphas look a lot like yellowed ivory.
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:13:43
icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
I'd love to see some icon mods as an option!
Ill see if any other designers will let me use their molds, because it would make things more expensive than i would want to fund new ones with this set.
just use the pulse mods lol
Post by: FLFisherman on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:15:34
I would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to some color-accurate pictures of this set. I bailed on the round 1 drop at the last minute because, after examining the color chip, I thought the alphas were a little too brown for my taste. I was hoping that seeing the actual product on keyboards would help me make a decision on whether to purchase round 2. Since round 1 has completed, I've seen a few images of this set, but the colors vary. In some images, the alphas are off-white. In other images, the alphas are tan. I've seen a few images where the alphas look a lot like yellowed ivory.
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
The last picture doesn't look like Jukebox...
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:17:18
I would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to some color-accurate pictures of this set. I bailed on the round 1 drop at the last minute because, after examining the color chip, I thought the alphas were a little too brown for my taste. I was hoping that seeing the actual product on keyboards would help me make a decision on whether to purchase round 2. Since round 1 has completed, I've seen a few images of this set, but the colors vary. In some images, the alphas are off-white. In other images, the alphas are tan. I've seen a few images where the alphas look a lot like yellowed ivory.
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
The last picture doesn't look like Jukebox...
The Noodz?
(actually, Jukebox meets Round 5 :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:18:03
icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
I'd love to see some icon mods as an option!
Ill see if any other designers will let me use their molds, because it would make things more expensive than i would want to fund new ones with this set.
just use the pulse mods lol
haha. Skulldazed (Modern Selectric) had a really good set. i'll discuss it with him.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 20 January 2016, 22:13:14
I would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to some color-accurate pictures of this set. I bailed on the round 1 drop at the last minute because, after examining the color chip, I thought the alphas were a little too brown for my taste. I was hoping that seeing the actual product on keyboards would help me make a decision on whether to purchase round 2. Since round 1 has completed, I've seen a few images of this set, but the colors vary. In some images, the alphas are off-white. In other images, the alphas are tan. I've seen a few images where the alphas look a lot like yellowed ivory.
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
The last picture doesn't look like Jukebox...
The Noodz?
(actually, Jukebox meets Round 5 :)
I was about to say the same thing!
icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
I'd love to see some icon mods as an option!
Ill see if any other designers will let me use their molds, because it would make things more expensive than i would want to fund new ones with this set.
So if someone pays to get new molds made, they are they only ones that are allowed to use those molds?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 20 January 2016, 22:14:59
I would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to some color-accurate pictures of this set. I bailed on the round 1 drop at the last minute because, after examining the color chip, I thought the alphas were a little too brown for my taste. I was hoping that seeing the actual product on keyboards would help me make a decision on whether to purchase round 2. Since round 1 has completed, I've seen a few images of this set, but the colors vary. In some images, the alphas are off-white. In other images, the alphas are tan. I've seen a few images where the alphas look a lot like yellowed ivory.
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
The last picture doesn't look like Jukebox...
The Noodz?
(actually, Jukebox meets Round 5 :)
I was about to say the same thing!icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
I'd love to see some icon mods as an option!
Ill see if any other designers will let me use their molds, because it would make things more expensive than i would want to fund new ones with this set.
So if someone pays to get new molds made, they are they only ones that are allowed to use those molds?
Yeah, they basically are no different than novelties as far as I know.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 20 January 2016, 22:23:21
MoreI would really appreciate it if someone could direct me to some color-accurate pictures of this set. I bailed on the round 1 drop at the last minute because, after examining the color chip, I thought the alphas were a little too brown for my taste. I was hoping that seeing the actual product on keyboards would help me make a decision on whether to purchase round 2. Since round 1 has completed, I've seen a few images of this set, but the colors vary. In some images, the alphas are off-white. In other images, the alphas are tan. I've seen a few images where the alphas look a lot like yellowed ivory.
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
The last picture doesn't look like Jukebox...
The Noodz?
(actually, Jukebox meets Round 5 :)
I was about to say the same thing!icon mods and i'm in.
also, hhkb / hacker layout support (short right shift, 1x1 pipe etc)
The adapter kit already supports the hacker/hhkb layout ;)
Icon mods probably wont happen unless there are a lot of people that want it, but the base kit wont change, so it would be expensive to say the least.
I'd love to see some icon mods as an option!
Ill see if any other designers will let me use their molds, because it would make things more expensive than i would want to fund new ones with this set.
So if someone pays to get new molds made, they are they only ones that are allowed to use those molds?
Yeah, they basically are no different than novelties as far as I know.
Interesting. I'm surprised PMK doesn't (generally) keep the rights to them. I think I remember seeing somewhere that custom molds were $50, which I feel like that's rather low to get a mold made.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 21 January 2016, 00:19:16
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78712.new#new
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 21 January 2016, 04:07:16
If anyone got Jukebox and liked it there is a poll up for keyset of the year :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78712.new#new
Voted! :cool:
Post by: E3E on Thu, 21 January 2016, 11:26:59
If anyone got Jukebox and liked it there is a poll up for keyset of the year :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78712.new#new
Voted! :cool:
Likewise!
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:14:37
If anyone got Jukebox and liked it there is a poll up for keyset of the year :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78712.new#new
Voted too, I think this or Fulse will be my first SA set.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:23:21
If anyone got Jukebox and liked it there is a poll up for keyset of the year :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78712.new#new
Voted too, I think this or Fulse will be my first SA set.
Carbon was my first, and I really regret passing on the first round of Jukebox & 1976. Definitely my favorite profile thus far.
Post by: 1deeg on Thu, 21 January 2016, 21:38:46
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
That Jukebox / Round 5 combo is sick
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 21 January 2016, 22:11:19
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
That Jukebox / Round 5 combo is sick
They really do complement each other very well!
Post by: digi on Thu, 21 January 2016, 22:27:04
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 22 January 2016, 02:42:11
But I now have Carbon on my new homemade board, and am waiting for R6 for another board, so why would I possibly need Jukebox on a third board? I only have two hands, people!
Cause I do. That's why! Cause I do!!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:09:52
This set looks really good...esé
Thanks digi! ;D
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:14:01
http://imgur.com/a/xuBP8 here is an album with more community shots as well.
That Jukebox / Round 5 combo is sick
It was a very interesting combo i thought. Looks good with the carbon alphas as well, though pure round 5 Honeywell may be my favorite set of all time
Post by: ixtopolis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:15:06
Now I just need a board to put it on...
Post by: FLFisherman on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:19:02
I'm completely new to the mech game, but I'm in for a set.
Now I just need a board to put it on...
What sort of board did you have in mind? Size? Backlighting? Switch type? Bezel? Custom? There are so many options. :D
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:22:12
I'm completely new to the mech game, but I'm in for a set.
Now I just need a board to put it on...
yay, now getting a board will be the exciting part!
Post by: ixtopolis on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:53:36
I'm completely new to the mech game, but I'm in for a set.
Now I just need a board to put it on...
What sort of board did you have in mind? Size? Backlighting? Switch type? Bezel? Custom? There are so many options. :D
I stumbled down this rabbit-hole purely by accident last week just looking for an external to my Macbook Air/replace my Razer Anansi and have spent all my downtime flipping through here and deskthority. I'm looking at a 60% or 68% or so board. IDEALLY The White Fox that I missed on Massdrop (also new to massdrop...). I have been leaning to the Pok3r or the KBP60, but also eyeing the Varmilo 68 that's on Massdrop now. I'm a writer so I'm not sure if the functionality of the Pok3r would be lost on me. I do like that it comes with an aluminum base. I'm meh about backlighting. I kind of like it but it's not important. No idea on switches so I just ordered a tester. Also Colemak compatibility (which I'm also new to).
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:54:53
I'm completely new to the mech game, but I'm in for a set.
Now I just need a board to put it on...
What sort of board did you have in mind? Size? Backlighting? Switch type? Bezel? Custom? There are so many options. :D
I do have a colemak+dvorak set so you should be good there :)
I stumbled down this rabbit-hole purely by accident last week just looking for an external to my Macbook Air/replace my Razer Anansi and have spent all my downtime flipping through here and deskthority. I'm looking at a 60% or 68% or so board. IDEALLY The White Fox that I missed on Massdrop (also new to massdrop...). I have been leaning to the Pok3r or the KBP60, but also eyeing the Varmilo 68 that's on Massdrop now. I'm a writer so I'm not sure if the functionality of the Pok3r would be lost on me. I do like that it comes with an aluminum base. I'm meh about backlighting. I kind of like it but it's not important. No idea on switches so I just ordered a tester. Also Colemak compatibility (which I'm also new to).
Post by: skaloola on Sun, 24 January 2016, 05:11:31
Oh and on another note I'd personally rather have a full set of Carbon than my White Fox order.... *cough*pm me*cough*
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 January 2016, 16:42:24
Inquired about using someones Icon Mods for the run, will give more info on that as it develops as a possibility.
For the Non-Standard Adapter kit, I added a few keys to support 75% and 65% layouts. The 1U keys on the left on each row are really to give some layout options for those layouts mentioned. Instead of making specific keys, having these more "generic" terms will allow the keyboards to at least use something in those slots instead of a wrong key entirely.
Also, i forgot to mention that the "ENTER" key has been changed to "RETURN" as I felt it suited the set better.
Please shoot any suggestions you may have my way.
(http://i.imgur.com/FZ0uivt.jpg)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:12:54
(http://i.imgur.com/Nk7Ua2z.jpg)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:21:37
Post by: E3E on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:22:43
Updated the kit with a good request from Engicoder to include a Green "\ |" key as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nk7Ua2z.jpg)
LSB, I'm kissing my monitor right now. :-*
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:29:51
Few updates:
Inquired about using someones Icon Mods for the run, will give more info on that as it develops as a possibility.
For the Non-Standard Adapter kit, I added a few keys to support 75% and 65% layouts. The 1U keys on the left on each row are really to give some layout options for those layouts mentioned. Instead of making specific keys, having these more "generic" terms will allow the keyboards to at least use something in those slots instead of a wrong key entirely.
Also, i forgot to mention that the "ENTER" key has been changed to "RETURN" as I felt it suited the set better.
Please shoot any suggestions you may have my way.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FZ0uivt.jpg)
Just my small suggestion: make 7u spacebar as stand alone child deal like all other spacebars in available sizes and Jukebox colors (RED and i guess TM). Not sure but this kit has some keys which could be used by other layouts but with standard spacebar size.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:29:58
And updated DT key. Still a work in progress.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:31:51
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:43:14
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5lXHtv.jpg)
And updated DT key. Still a work in progress.
Love how that DT key is looking, but maybe a slightly different font. Idk, it just looks a little plain for some reason.
Also working on some novelties for the ErgoDox thumb cluster.
If they're the 2u (tall) keys, they'll also be able to be used on the += keys on the number pad. Just wanted to point that out.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:45:02
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5lXHtv.jpg)
And updated DT key. Still a work in progress.
Love how that DT key is looking, but maybe a slightly different font. Idk, it just looks a little plain for some reason.Also working on some novelties for the ErgoDox thumb cluster.
If they're the 2u (tall) keys, they'll also be able to be used on the += keys on the number pad. Just wanted to point that out.
Yeah going to work on ways to make it a little more detailed somehow.
https://deskthority.net/resources/image/24693
Finally, going to make child deals to fit these boards, could take me a while :p
Post by: E3E on Sun, 24 January 2016, 17:54:16
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5lXHtv.jpg)
And updated DT key. Still a work in progress.
Love how that DT key is looking, but maybe a slightly different font. Idk, it just looks a little plain for some reason.Also working on some novelties for the ErgoDox thumb cluster.
If they're the 2u (tall) keys, they'll also be able to be used on the += keys on the number pad. Just wanted to point that out.
Yeah going to work on ways to make it a little more detailed somehow.
https://deskthority.net/resources/image/24693
Finally, going to make child deals to fit these boards, could take me a while :p
But who on earth except like, a tiny handful of people have those even? Hahaha. Dear god. Good luck, man!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 24 January 2016, 18:04:12
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5lXHtv.jpg)
And updated DT key. Still a work in progress.
Love how that DT key is looking, but maybe a slightly different font. Idk, it just looks a little plain for some reason.Also working on some novelties for the ErgoDox thumb cluster.
If they're the 2u (tall) keys, they'll also be able to be used on the += keys on the number pad. Just wanted to point that out.
Yeah going to work on ways to make it a little more detailed somehow.
https://deskthority.net/resources/image/24693
Finally, going to make child deals to fit these boards, could take me a while :p
Interested in those child deals ;) please send a board with it too!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 January 2016, 18:33:40
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5lXHtv.jpg)
And updated DT key. Still a work in progress.
Love how that DT key is looking, but maybe a slightly different font. Idk, it just looks a little plain for some reason.Also working on some novelties for the ErgoDox thumb cluster.
If they're the 2u (tall) keys, they'll also be able to be used on the += keys on the number pad. Just wanted to point that out.
Yeah going to work on ways to make it a little more detailed somehow.
https://deskthority.net/resources/image/24693
Finally, going to make child deals to fit these boards, could take me a while :p
But who on earth except like, a tiny handful of people have those even? Hahaha. Dear god. Good luck, man!
haha definitely kidding, dont need a $500 child deal =P
Post by: WSweg on Sun, 24 January 2016, 23:29:36
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 24 January 2016, 23:33:12
Are the sets going to be the same price as the first round? Also, what would that be? Definitely plan on buying a set, just need to know how much money to put aside for when the time comes around.More or less, adapter kit has a few extra keys, a few have less. Aiming for more buyers this time around though, so hopefully cheaper all around! 80 or less for tkl base I'd imagine
Post by: Revilos on Tue, 26 January 2016, 17:00:17
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
White F5, F6, F7, F8
That would be amazing! Thanks!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 18:47:03
No Atomic support. This really raises the price of the 40% kit, and I feel like very few will actually buy this for the atomic, so unfortunately for the good of the majority I will be scaling back that set. A Cream space bar for the planck will be added though.
Novelties will be finalized soon. The DT key is getting a bit of an overhaul, and the ErgoDox 2u thumb cluster will have all new novelties.
Looking at adding a 4th color, probably blue, somewhere in the kit as an extra set. This was something I had toyed with the first time around, though it just never came to fruition.
#thesiscamperhype
(http://i.imgur.com/sZ1rhTB.png)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:31:39
At first thought, adding blue as a 4th color seems like a bit too much, but then as I visualize it, I think it could be really really awesome! I'd love to see some renders with a mix of all 4 colors in the way that you envision it.
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:53:11
Ok, some changes that are going to show up in the renders soon.Maybe a blue gamer/esc kit?
No Atomic support. This really raises the price of the 40% kit, and I feel like very few will actually buy this for the atomic, so unfortunately for the good of the majority I will be scaling back that set. A Cream space bar for the planck will be added though.
Novelties will be finalized soon. The DT key is getting a bit of an overhaul, and the ErgoDox 2u thumb cluster will have all new novelties.
Looking at adding a 4th color, probably blue, somewhere in the kit as an extra set. This was something I had toyed with the first time around, though it just never came to fruition.
#thesiscamperhypeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/sZ1rhTB.png)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:20:54
Ok, some changes that are going to show up in the renders soon.Maybe a blue gamer/esc kit?
No Atomic support. This really raises the price of the 40% kit, and I feel like very few will actually buy this for the atomic, so unfortunately for the good of the majority I will be scaling back that set. A Cream space bar for the planck will be added though.
Novelties will be finalized soon. The DT key is getting a bit of an overhaul, and the ErgoDox 2u thumb cluster will have all new novelties.
Looking at adding a 4th color, probably blue, somewhere in the kit as an extra set. This was something I had toyed with the first time around, though it just never came to fruition.
#thesiscamperhypeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/sZ1rhTB.png)
Yeah, i like that idea. Ill post up a few ideas later, but if you want to add ideas as well feel free!
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 28 January 2016, 02:58:37
That Planck pic is timely though, built my Massdrop w/browns yesterday. DSA blanks is soooo 2015.
Post by: ShadyQubit on Thu, 28 January 2016, 10:48:22
So the new keys would be:
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
and White F5, F6, F7, F8
EDIT: Yeah I've already posted this request on a different account (sorry! Forgot I'd posted already, and forgot the other account's password and lost its email)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 31 January 2016, 20:58:32
Would it be possible to provide the colours inverted for the function row, so that somebody can make the function keys all blue or all white?
So the new keys would be:
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
and White F5, F6, F7, F8
EDIT: Yeah I've already posted this request on a different account (sorry! Forgot I'd posted already, and forgot the other account's password and lost its email)
Yeah I can make a mockup of this. Is anyone else interesting in a "Flex Pack" (See Carbon's drop for visual example until i get renders)? Basically the ability to have all 1 color on both the F row and Number Row?
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:00:12
Would it be possible to provide the colours inverted for the function row, so that somebody can make the function keys all blue or all white?
So the new keys would be:
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
and White F5, F6, F7, F8
EDIT: Yeah I've already posted this request on a different account (sorry! Forgot I'd posted already, and forgot the other account's password and lost its email)
Yeah I can make a mockup of this. Is anyone else interesting in a "Flex Pack" (See Carbon's drop for visual example until i get renders)? Basically the ability to have all 1 color on both the F row and Number Row?
Personally not interested in a flex pack, but I can see this to be a desirable option. (Can't remember how many of these actually sold during the Carbon drop though.)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:01:31
Would it be possible to provide the colours inverted for the function row, so that somebody can make the function keys all blue or all white?
So the new keys would be:
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
and White F5, F6, F7, F8
EDIT: Yeah I've already posted this request on a different account (sorry! Forgot I'd posted already, and forgot the other account's password and lost its email)
Yeah I can make a mockup of this. Is anyone else interesting in a "Flex Pack" (See Carbon's drop for visual example until i get renders)? Basically the ability to have all 1 color on both the F row and Number Row?
Personally not interested in a flex pack, but I can see this to be a desirable option. (Can't remember how many of these actually sold during the Carbon drop though.)
I can ask the MD guys the numbers. Yeah, personally not my thing either, but if there is interest I can throw one together. A lot of the more obscure kits that may not tip, I will present to SP and let them run them eventually as well.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:03:20
Would it be possible to provide the colours inverted for the function row, so that somebody can make the function keys all blue or all white?
So the new keys would be:
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
and White F5, F6, F7, F8
EDIT: Yeah I've already posted this request on a different account (sorry! Forgot I'd posted already, and forgot the other account's password and lost its email)
Yeah I can make a mockup of this. Is anyone else interesting in a "Flex Pack" (See Carbon's drop for visual example until i get renders)? Basically the ability to have all 1 color on both the F row and Number Row?
Personally not interested in a flex pack, but I can see this to be a desirable option. (Can't remember how many of these actually sold during the Carbon drop though.)
I can ask the MD guys the numbers. Yeah, personally not my thing either, but if there is interest I can throw one together. A lot of the more obscure kits that may not tip, I will present to SP and let them run them eventually as well.
That'd be awesome! I can't wait to get this set, and I'm sure after that, I'd probably load up on some of the other options down the road. Helps to break up the spending a bit =P
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:04:55
Would it be possible to provide the colours inverted for the function row, so that somebody can make the function keys all blue or all white?
So the new keys would be:
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
and White F5, F6, F7, F8
EDIT: Yeah I've already posted this request on a different account (sorry! Forgot I'd posted already, and forgot the other account's password and lost its email)
Yeah I can make a mockup of this. Is anyone else interesting in a "Flex Pack" (See Carbon's drop for visual example until i get renders)? Basically the ability to have all 1 color on both the F row and Number Row?
Personally not interested in a flex pack, but I can see this to be a desirable option. (Can't remember how many of these actually sold during the Carbon drop though.)
I can ask the MD guys the numbers. Yeah, personally not my thing either, but if there is interest I can throw one together. A lot of the more obscure kits that may not tip, I will present to SP and let them run them eventually as well.
That'd be awesome! I can't wait to get this set, and I'm sure after that, I'd probably load up on some of the other options down the road. Helps to break up the spending a bit =P
Yeah i need to see if PMK still has any of the nordic kits. Those were abysmal in sales last time, and if they still have some in the store I probably won't run that kit this time. That ends up just making it more expensive for everyone else.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 31 January 2016, 21:18:47
Would it be possible to provide the colours inverted for the function row, so that somebody can make the function keys all blue or all white?
So the new keys would be:
Blue F1, F2, F3, F4, F9, F10, F11, F12
and White F5, F6, F7, F8
EDIT: Yeah I've already posted this request on a different account (sorry! Forgot I'd posted already, and forgot the other account's password and lost its email)
Yeah I can make a mockup of this. Is anyone else interesting in a "Flex Pack" (See Carbon's drop for visual example until i get renders)? Basically the ability to have all 1 color on both the F row and Number Row?
Personally not interested in a flex pack, but I can see this to be a desirable option. (Can't remember how many of these actually sold during the Carbon drop though.)
I can ask the MD guys the numbers. Yeah, personally not my thing either, but if there is interest I can throw one together. A lot of the more obscure kits that may not tip, I will present to SP and let them run them eventually as well.
That'd be awesome! I can't wait to get this set, and I'm sure after that, I'd probably load up on some of the other options down the road. Helps to break up the spending a bit =P
Yeah i need to see if PMK still has any of the nordic kits. Those were abysmal in sales last time, and if they still have some in the store I probably won't run that kit this time. That ends up just making it more expensive for everyone else.
PMK still has everything available other than the base set. I just have no idea how many they actually have of each.
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 01 February 2016, 08:47:08
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 February 2016, 13:05:11
Post by: sarang on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:02:07
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 01 February 2016, 16:12:32
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:18:23
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:18:53
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DB3kg7r.jpg)
Trying to build up a lot of hype before Round 2? It's working. :))
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:26:44
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DB3kg7r.jpg)
Trying to build up a lot of hype before Round 2? It's working. :))
Just showing the board I put my set on. Would love a Viper to go full HHKB style on :(
Post by: Glenmael on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:39:31
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DB3kg7r.jpg)
\m/ noice \m/
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 01 February 2016, 20:22:27
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DB3kg7r.jpg)
Uughh. I need round 2 to start already!
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 February 2016, 22:17:02
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DB3kg7r.jpg)
Uughh. I need round 2 to start already!
YES, Round Two should start ............ soon.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 01 February 2016, 22:27:53
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 01 February 2016, 22:40:19
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 02 February 2016, 04:07:32
Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:52:06
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:57:45
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 02 February 2016, 09:22:03
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 02 February 2016, 11:02:44
Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Here's the problem with that. Granite was uniform profile (DSA) and dye subbed. Not only would the cost of the set rise to pay for new any new molds, I would literally have to have the set be 3-4 times larger than any other ergodox set so far because everyone uses such a different layout on the ergodox. I am putting some novelties into the set still, but legends on a sculpted set for a keyboard like the Dox just doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can see people just wanting this key or that key added indefinitely.
Post by: Kirfloof on Tue, 02 February 2016, 13:13:03
Also, seeing the change to a 'return' key interests me greatly. I really dislike 'enter', that key will forever be return in my mind.
Post by: sarang on Tue, 02 February 2016, 14:20:25
Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Here's the problem with that. Granite was uniform profile (DSA) and dye subbed. Not only would the cost of the set rise to pay for new any new molds, I would literally have to have the set be 3-4 times larger than any other ergodox set so far because everyone uses such a different layout on the ergodox. I am putting some novelties into the set still, but legends on a sculpted set for a keyboard like the Dox just doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can see people just wanting this key or that key added indefinitely.
Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Here's the problem with that. Granite was uniform profile (DSA) and dye subbed. Not only would the cost of the set rise to pay for new any new molds, I would literally have to have the set be 3-4 times larger than any other ergodox set so far because everyone uses such a different layout on the ergodox. I am putting some novelties into the set still, but legends on a sculpted set for a keyboard like the Dox just doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can see people just wanting this key or that key added indefinitely.
How about at least the default ergodox layout? That should satisfy the beginners on the dox at least. I for one have been using blanks exclusively untill I shifted to the ergodox this month. And now I need legends as the learning curve is pretty steep. Talk about dropping from 80wpm down to 35.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 02 February 2016, 14:47:59
Curious how this would blend together with Nantucket...
Also, seeing the change to a 'return' key interests me greatly. I really dislike 'enter', that key will forever be return in my mind.
Glad you noticed! yeah, it should have been "return" all along I think, just one of those details i missed the first time around.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 02 February 2016, 14:50:20
Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Here's the problem with that. Granite was uniform profile (DSA) and dye subbed. Not only would the cost of the set rise to pay for new any new molds, I would literally have to have the set be 3-4 times larger than any other ergodox set so far because everyone uses such a different layout on the ergodox. I am putting some novelties into the set still, but legends on a sculpted set for a keyboard like the Dox just doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can see people just wanting this key or that key added indefinitely.Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Here's the problem with that. Granite was uniform profile (DSA) and dye subbed. Not only would the cost of the set rise to pay for new any new molds, I would literally have to have the set be 3-4 times larger than any other ergodox set so far because everyone uses such a different layout on the ergodox. I am putting some novelties into the set still, but legends on a sculpted set for a keyboard like the Dox just doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can see people just wanting this key or that key added indefinitely.
How about at least the default ergodox layout? That should satisfy the beginners on the dox at least. I for one have been using blanks exclusively untill I shifted to the ergodox this month. And now I need legends as the learning curve is pretty steep. Talk about dropping from 80wpm down to 35.
Hm, well that would definitely be the start of the labels. I'll see what I can come up with. I can add a few generic keys (hyper, meta, super) along with a few blanks/novelties and see how it comes out. Again my main concern is simply pricing and making it far too expensive. Ill try to come up with a render in a day or two and get some feedback on it though!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:32:10
Hm, well that would definitely be the start of the labels. I'll see what I can come up with. I can add a few generic keys (hyper, meta, super) along with a few blanks/novelties and see how it comes out. Again my main concern is simply pricing and making it far too expensive. Ill try to come up with a render in a day or two and get some feedback on it though!
Hey got the same request. I am thinking to implement just the default layout as displayed on github. But in my opinion the blank keys should stay too (for custom layouts). Also i think about to make it standalone kit with alphas.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:33:27
Hm, well that would definitely be the start of the labels. I'll see what I can come up with. I can add a few generic keys (hyper, meta, super) along with a few blanks/novelties and see how it comes out. Again my main concern is simply pricing and making it far too expensive. Ill try to come up with a render in a day or two and get some feedback on it though!
Hey got the same request. I am thinking to implement just the default layout as displayed on github (http://input.club/configurator-ergodox). But in my opinion the blank keys should stay too (for custom layouts). Also i think about to make it standalone kit with alphas.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:33:31
Hm, well that would definitely be the start of the labels. I'll see what I can come up with. I can add a few generic keys (hyper, meta, super) along with a few blanks/novelties and see how it comes out. Again my main concern is simply pricing and making it far too expensive. Ill try to come up with a render in a day or two and get some feedback on it though!
Hey got the same request. I am thinking to implement just the default layout as displayed on github. But in my opinion the blank keys should stay too (for custom layouts). Also i think about to make it standalone kit with alphas.
Hm. Yeah making the alphas standalone would really help plank/dox users. Will look into all these options over the weekend and try to get pricing based on some mock renders.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 02 February 2016, 15:37:24
Hm, well that would definitely be the start of the labels. I'll see what I can come up with. I can add a few generic keys (hyper, meta, super) along with a few blanks/novelties and see how it comes out. Again my main concern is simply pricing and making it far too expensive. Ill try to come up with a render in a day or two and get some feedback on it though!
Hey got the same request. I am thinking to implement just the default layout as displayed on github. But in my opinion the blank keys should stay too (for custom layouts). Also i think about to make it standalone kit with alphas.
Hm. Yeah making the alphas standalone would really help plank/dox users. Will look into all these options over the weekend and try to get pricing based on some mock renders.
I am making this kit right now and i'll post it soon. So hope this might help you making a decision (me including) :)
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 02 February 2016, 16:58:22
(http://i.imgur.com/uRvgEdZ.jpg)
Basically i think this is ok and might even cost less than base kit + ergodox kit.
Edit: forgot blanks for tumb cluster.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 02 February 2016, 18:03:13
Sry for posting Carbon related stuff in Jukebox' thread, but this is how it supposed to look. There are some double keys on github and i dont know why. I replaced one with super.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uRvgEdZ.jpg)
Basically i think this is ok and might even cost less than base kit + ergodox kit.
Edit: forgot blanks for tumb cluster.
My friend, keep posting whatever :)
I think the kit is pretty damn good. I'd be curious to see pricing though.
Post by: profanum429 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 19:34:25
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 03 February 2016, 06:14:24
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 03 February 2016, 07:25:23
I would recommend separating out the alphas. Having a complete Planck kit with alphas, a complete ergodox kit with alphas and so on would just make it harder for those of us who have more than one keyboard and want to use it on all of them in turn.
I don't think the Planck & ErgoDox kits were ever intended to come with alphas. If you take a look at the OP you'll see that these kits only contain the modifiers. So, as it sits, you would get the base set plus any number of these kits.
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 03 February 2016, 07:28:05
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 03 February 2016, 07:36:02
Ok, good. Just... Making sure then. As you were! 😁
livingspeedbump was suggesting that keeping the alphas on their own (without TKL mods) would help the people using this set on only a Planck or an ErgoDox, or some other layout that does not needs the base mods. Since I wouldn't be using this set on any strange layouts, I don't mind either way.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 03 February 2016, 13:12:04
The Nordic kit WILL NOT RUN. PMK store still has them in stock, and due to the fact that they sell under 10 units, it is just not worth it price wise to run it again.
(http://i.imgur.com/Zeisjly.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LrlhhX1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qbsx28q.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0b0oC1W.jpg)
The renders are a bit rough, did a rush job just for feedback at this point. :thumb:
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 03 February 2016, 13:59:39
I see you've added a flower key in the ErgoDox set. Will this also be added to another set as well for the rest of us, non-ergodoxers?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 03 February 2016, 14:04:20
I like that you've split out the alphas (even tho I won't be buying this for a planck or a dox) :thumb:
I see you've added a flower key in the ErgoDox set. Will this also be added to another set as well for the rest of us, non-ergodoxers?
Yeah, still just finding where to put it. I may do a poll for a few novelties and pick the most popular ones if i have too many :) Like i said before, I wanted to make sure to include some new novelties each time in replace of some of the old ones. Ill be keeping the atom for sure, but probably do the flower in place of the star!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 03 February 2016, 14:34:26
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 03 February 2016, 14:39:24
I like that you've split out the alphas (even tho I won't be buying this for a planck or a dox) :thumb:
I see you've added a flower key in the ErgoDox set. Will this also be added to another set as well for the rest of us, non-ergodoxers?
Yeah, still just finding where to put it. I may do a poll for a few novelties and pick the most popular ones if i have too many :) Like i said before, I wanted to make sure to include some new novelties each time in replace of some of the old ones. Ill be keeping the atom for sure, but probably do the flower in place of the star!
Hey just an idea: you got already flowers but how about vinyl record? Afaik jukeboxes are about vinyl records. Additionaly you can also add music keys like this:
(http://images.crestock.com/1930000-1939999/1932426-xs.jpg)
Now imagine, instead of typical labels you can use those music keys. This could basically solve the problem with ergodox.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 03 February 2016, 14:44:12
I like that you've split out the alphas (even tho I won't be buying this for a planck or a dox) :thumb:
I see you've added a flower key in the ErgoDox set. Will this also be added to another set as well for the rest of us, non-ergodoxers?
Yeah, still just finding where to put it. I may do a poll for a few novelties and pick the most popular ones if i have too many :) Like i said before, I wanted to make sure to include some new novelties each time in replace of some of the old ones. Ill be keeping the atom for sure, but probably do the flower in place of the star!
Hey just an idea: you got already flowers but how about vinyl record? Afaik jukeboxes are about vinyl records. Additionaly you can also add music keys like this:Show Image(http://images.crestock.com/1930000-1939999/1932426-xs.jpg)
Yeah im looking at doing a very simple radio/turntable/record icon of some sort. It does kind of need one like you said :)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 03 February 2016, 15:02:30
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 16:07:08
Ok, some non-finalized kit changes for people to look over. I will not finalize changes until I see pricing. I detached the alphas from the base kit, and made a TKL/60% with the modifiers. This allows Dox/Planck users to get a better deal. Added default legends to the Dox kit, along with blanks. I WILL NOT add random keys for layout changes to this kit. That would just be a road that would lead to a ridiculously expensive kit, so stock+blanks is the best I can do there. Also going to take out the space bars from Adapter/Color mod kits and sell them separately to help pricing on those.
The Nordic kit WILL NOT RUN. PMK store still has them in stock, and due to the fact that they sell under 10 units, it is just not worth it price wise to run it again.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zeisjly.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LrlhhX1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qbsx28q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0b0oC1W.jpg)
The renders are a bit rough, did a rush job just for feedback at this point. :thumb:
It's sets like this that make me wish I love the way SA profile feels. Good luck with the GB LSB! I hope one day this color way makes it to JTK or GMK for that sweet sweet cherry profile ;)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 03 February 2016, 17:29:09
Love the idea of the radio/turntable/record icon. Also, I kinda like the star and will be sad to see it go, but I know somethings gotta give if you want to add new ones.
Engicoder is all over this :thumb: Ill post the sweet novelty he sent me later!
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 February 2016, 17:37:11
Ok, some non-finalized kit changes for people to look over. I will not finalize changes until I see pricing. I detached the alphas from the base kit, and made a TKL/60% with the modifiers. This allows Dox/Planck users to get a better deal. Added default legends to the Dox kit, along with blanks. I WILL NOT add random keys for layout changes to this kit. That would just be a road that would lead to a ridiculously expensive kit, so stock+blanks is the best I can do there. Also going to take out the space bars from Adapter/Color mod kits and sell them separately to help pricing on those.
The Nordic kit WILL NOT RUN. PMK store still has them in stock, and due to the fact that they sell under 10 units, it is just not worth it price wise to run it again.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zeisjly.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LrlhhX1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qbsx28q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0b0oC1W.jpg)
The renders are a bit rough, did a rush job just for feedback at this point. :thumb:
It's good to keep things simple, and these sets seem to understand it. :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 03 February 2016, 17:53:47
Ok, some non-finalized kit changes for people to look over. I will not finalize changes until I see pricing. I detached the alphas from the base kit, and made a TKL/60% with the modifiers. This allows Dox/Planck users to get a better deal. Added default legends to the Dox kit, along with blanks. I WILL NOT add random keys for layout changes to this kit. That would just be a road that would lead to a ridiculously expensive kit, so stock+blanks is the best I can do there. Also going to take out the space bars from Adapter/Color mod kits and sell them separately to help pricing on those.
The Nordic kit WILL NOT RUN. PMK store still has them in stock, and due to the fact that they sell under 10 units, it is just not worth it price wise to run it again.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zeisjly.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LrlhhX1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qbsx28q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0b0oC1W.jpg)
The renders are a bit rough, did a rush job just for feedback at this point. :thumb:
It's good to keep things simple, and these sets seem to understand it. :thumb:
Simple and saving people a buck or two in the process is what I generally aim for :thumb:
Post by: DaveW on Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:45:12
I like that you've split out the alphas (even tho I won't be buying this for a planck or a dox) :thumb:
I see you've added a flower key in the ErgoDox set. Will this also be added to another set as well for the rest of us, non-ergodoxers?
Yeah, still just finding where to put it. I may do a poll for a few novelties and pick the most popular ones if i have too many :) Like i said before, I wanted to make sure to include some new novelties each time in replace of some of the old ones. Ill be keeping the atom for sure, but probably do the flower in place of the star!
Hey just an idea: you got already flowers but how about vinyl record? Afaik jukeboxes are about vinyl records. Additionaly you can also add music keys like this:Show Image(http://images.crestock.com/1930000-1939999/1932426-xs.jpg)
Yeah im looking at doing a very simple radio/turntable/record icon of some sort. It does kind of need one like you said :)
One potential icon you could use would be a 45 rpm adapter aka spider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45_rpm_adapter). A record is probably more fitting for a jukebox theme but just throwing out another option.
Post by: sarang on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:25:06
Much appreciated good sir!Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Here's the problem with that. Granite was uniform profile (DSA) and dye subbed. Not only would the cost of the set rise to pay for new any new molds, I would literally have to have the set be 3-4 times larger than any other ergodox set so far because everyone uses such a different layout on the ergodox. I am putting some novelties into the set still, but legends on a sculpted set for a keyboard like the Dox just doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can see people just wanting this key or that key added indefinitely.Will there be Ergodox set with legends? Pretty please? At least different colours for the the ergodox mods so that they are easy to recognize?
Something along the lines of Granite's Ergodox addon would be nice.
Here's the problem with that. Granite was uniform profile (DSA) and dye subbed. Not only would the cost of the set rise to pay for new any new molds, I would literally have to have the set be 3-4 times larger than any other ergodox set so far because everyone uses such a different layout on the ergodox. I am putting some novelties into the set still, but legends on a sculpted set for a keyboard like the Dox just doesn't seem to be a good idea. I can see people just wanting this key or that key added indefinitely.
How about at least the default ergodox layout? That should satisfy the beginners on the dox at least. I for one have been using blanks exclusively untill I shifted to the ergodox this month. And now I need legends as the learning curve is pretty steep. Talk about dropping from 80wpm down to 35.
Hm, well that would definitely be the start of the labels. I'll see what I can come up with. I can add a few generic keys (hyper, meta, super) along with a few blanks/novelties and see how it comes out. Again my main concern is simply pricing and making it far too expensive. Ill try to come up with a render in a day or two and get some feedback on it though!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 04 February 2016, 09:52:06
I like that you've split out the alphas (even tho I won't be buying this for a planck or a dox) :thumb:
I see you've added a flower key in the ErgoDox set. Will this also be added to another set as well for the rest of us, non-ergodoxers?
Yeah, still just finding where to put it. I may do a poll for a few novelties and pick the most popular ones if i have too many :) Like i said before, I wanted to make sure to include some new novelties each time in replace of some of the old ones. Ill be keeping the atom for sure, but probably do the flower in place of the star!
Hey just an idea: you got already flowers but how about vinyl record? Afaik jukeboxes are about vinyl records. Additionaly you can also add music keys like this:Show Image(http://images.crestock.com/1930000-1939999/1932426-xs.jpg)
Yeah im looking at doing a very simple radio/turntable/record icon of some sort. It does kind of need one like you said :)
One potential icon you could use would be a 45 rpm adapter aka spider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45_rpm_adapter). A record is probably more fitting for a jukebox theme but just throwing out another option.
Ah that could be a fun one too! I can't believe I didn't think of that, I did own a record store for years -_-
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:32:01
(http://i.imgur.com/PWhYnVQ.jpg)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:36:34
Ok here is another one. This time i took kinesis keyboard layout. Its the father of ergodox and so it defines its default layout. Added also some obvious additional keys so everyone can adjust the layout to ansi. I think that's the majority is using. For weirdo layouts there is pmk store which offers blank keys. I appreciate that its free programmable but there must to be a standard to it, else its just unprofessional device.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PWhYnVQ.jpg)
So the biggest thing I worry about is the fact that it is programmable, and pretty much any user that heavily uses the ErgoDox has probably loaded their own layout onto it, and thus would end up needing the blank kit.
On the other hand, the recent drops have been so successful that many users will be getting their first, and having legends will help them out drastically I bet.
So I'm stuck wondering if blanks+standard layout is best or if just blanks. Now, my final thought would simply be to run with blanks now just to help with overall pricing of the drop, and THEN I can put the set back on PMK again and add kits like the legend dox kit.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:47:12
Ok here is another one. This time i took kinesis keyboard layout. Its the father of ergodox and so it defines its default layout. Added also some obvious additional keys so everyone can adjust the layout to ansi. I think that's the majority is using. For weirdo layouts there is pmk store which offers blank keys. I appreciate that its free programmable but there must to be a standard to it, else its just unprofessional device.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PWhYnVQ.jpg)
So the biggest thing I worry about is the fact that it is programmable, and pretty much any user that heavily uses the ErgoDox has probably loaded their own layout onto it, and thus would end up needing the blank kit.
On the other hand, the recent drops have been so successful that many users will be getting their first, and having legends will help them out drastically I bet.
So I'm stuck wondering if blanks+standard layout is best or if just blanks. Now, my final thought would simply be to run with blanks now just to help with overall pricing of the drop, and THEN I can put the set back on PMK again and add kits like the legend dox kit.
In this case, i would offer blank kit as separate kit. I am sure most of the users has nearly the same layout.
People who use it at work must guaranty that every other employee can use it too. Every workstation has to be usable. I am speaking just from my experience. At my work a cant use ansi layout, though its far better for programming than ISO DE. Anyway i cant even use my own keyboard because of high security requirements. But thats the rule in every professional sector.
In short this is a "Professional Ergodox kit". I'll rename it.
Post by: Jedi on Thu, 04 February 2016, 16:57:14
Post by: pattulus on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:26:31
So the biggest thing I worry about is the fact that it is programmable, and pretty much any user that heavily uses the ErgoDox has probably loaded their own layout onto it, and thus would end up needing the blank kit.
On the other hand, the recent drops have been so successful that many users will be getting their first, and having legends will help them out drastically I bet.
So I'm stuck wondering if blanks+standard layout is best or if just blanks. Now, my final thought would simply be to run with blanks now just to help with overall pricing of the drop, and THEN I can put the set back on PMK again and add kits like the legend dox kit.
In addition, the Kinesis Advantage 2 arrives in late Q1 2016. I doubt that they change the whole thing up because it's pretty ingenious, but who knows. On YouTube there's only one video so far – a sneak peak of the new cherry function keys:
EDIT: Ah, now I get it… we're talking about the Kinesis modifier layout ==> ErgoDox modifier layout.
Anyway, just like @cswanic I'd prefer having the option to purchase blank modifiers and keys. Maybe even 2 different blanks sets for the Planck and Ergodox crowd ((I'm in both camps)).
Post by: ShadyQubit on Mon, 08 February 2016, 14:04:05
I was wondering if there are still plans to pursue the Jukebox flex kit (mainly for a uniform function row)? Thanks!
Post by: sherbo on Mon, 08 February 2016, 14:30:48
Post by: salasource on Thu, 11 February 2016, 04:26:57
The Nordic kit WILL NOT RUN. PMK store still has them in stock, and due to the fact that they sell under 10 units, it is just not worth it price wise to run it again.Thanks for the heads up! Ordered international kit from PMK. Just to make sure, will ISO set be available?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 11 February 2016, 09:47:40
The Nordic kit WILL NOT RUN. PMK store still has them in stock, and due to the fact that they sell under 10 units, it is just not worth it price wise to run it again.Thanks for the heads up! Ordered international kit from PMK. Just to make sure, will ISO set be available?
ISO will definitely be available! Been working on mocking up some suggestions as well here lately, getting pricing on kit options as well to help me decide what are the best routes to take :thumb:
Post by: MMjacksN on Mon, 15 February 2016, 03:43:35
The Nordic kit WILL NOT RUN. PMK store still has them in stock, and due to the fact that they sell under 10 units, it is just not worth it price wise to run it again.
Awww, oh well.
My apologies if this has already been asked, but will you include a red ISO enter key? And will the new ISO kit include an AltGr key?
Also, is there any other keys/kits that won't be a part of the new drop, that I should get on PMK instead?
Post by: dgdosen on Tue, 23 February 2016, 13:12:27
- 1.75 R4 spacers
- 1.25/1.75 R4 shifts
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 23 February 2016, 20:44:33
any chance in making the "Funky Size" set helpful for 45% keyboard owners? -
- 1.75 R4 spacers
- 1.25/1.75 R4 shifts
isn't the only thing that you need blank 1.75u R4s?
1.25 and 1.75 shift keys are covered in the iso and extended layout options
Post by: dgdosen on Wed, 24 February 2016, 01:27:25
isn't the only thing that you need blank 1.75u R4s?
1.25 and 1.75 shift keys are covered in the iso and extended layout options
That would work...
Post by: yinzer on Wed, 24 February 2016, 12:41:39
Ok here is another one. This time i took kinesis keyboard layout. Its the father of ergodox and so it defines its default layout. Added also some obvious additional keys so everyone can adjust the layout to ansi. I think that's the majority is using. For weirdo layouts there is pmk store which offers blank keys. I appreciate that its free programmable but there must to be a standard to it, else its just unprofessional device.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PWhYnVQ.jpg)
So the biggest thing I worry about is the fact that it is programmable, and pretty much any user that heavily uses the ErgoDox has probably loaded their own layout onto it, and thus would end up needing the blank kit.
On the other hand, the recent drops have been so successful that many users will be getting their first, and having legends will help them out drastically I bet.
So I'm stuck wondering if blanks+standard layout is best or if just blanks. Now, my final thought would simply be to run with blanks now just to help with overall pricing of the drop, and THEN I can put the set back on PMK again and add kits like the legend dox kit.
When I saw the initial mockup with legends, I was disappointed because it in no way matched my layout.
The second pitch is much, much better. It covers a lot of the customization options.
I have one of those "weirdo" layouts and the only keys that I couldn't place on my dox are delete and the quote key which I put in the place of the semicolon key because I use it 1,000 times more .. but, with custom options, you won't be able to make everyone happy. (Right now, I have a set of SA alphanumerics and stems for my most modifiers while I wait for PMK to stock blank purple SA keys.) ;D
But maybe we ought to have a community poll to see who puts what keys where. I still feel like you could pull a lot of Ergodox users from DSA profile with a kit like that if the price is right. The rub with SA keys and ergodox is that you have to spend $70-$80 on a TKL base kit and then drop somewhere between $40 to $50 on a set of blank keys.
Post by: metheon on Thu, 10 March 2016, 07:24:10
By the way, I also wrote on massdrop regarding a backspace/backslash swap option, as seen on the KUL. Which you said you would consider. If I am actually the only guy asking about this definitely do not make the set more expensive on only my behalf. :)
Really looking forward to round 2 :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 10 March 2016, 10:00:08
So lately I've been thinking about 60% keyboards and pok3rs really seem to be the most common thing around. The poker can remap the caps to fn which it seems a lot of people do. What are the changes of getting some sort of meta key included to accommodate this? Doesn't need to say FN specifically but maybe be blank, or jukebox or a symbol or something. In red or green. :) Or is it expected that people just use the control key in its place no matter the function? :)
By the way, I also wrote on massdrop regarding a backspace/backslash swap option, as seen on the KUL. Which you said you would consider. If I am actually the only guy asking about this definitely do not make the set more expensive on only my behalf. :)
Really looking forward to round 2 :)
No worries, I already have the Backspace, as it is the same for HHKB layout, ill just need to add the 2u "|\" key to the adapter kit :)
Post by: need on Thu, 10 March 2016, 15:17:33
I need this to feed my addiction !
Post by: breckstar on Thu, 10 March 2016, 16:18:07
2. Blanks similar to Nantucket options (for planck and upcoming prenoic), new novelties?
Can't wait for round 2.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 10 March 2016, 16:27:05
when can we expect round 2 to happen ?
I need this to feed my addiction !
This ^^ I was just thinking the same thing.
Post by: metheon on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:31:14
I think it is the lack of font. The dual color keys creates the charming appeal of Jukebox. Even just the 2u thumb buttons of the Carbon set creates enough colors to keep it exciting. DangerZone more so and same for the Granite.
Does anyone feel the same or just me? Is it possible to spice up a few keys without making them character specific, like for Carbon?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:52:41
I have been thinking about the ergodox lately, and namely the Jukebox Ergodox render (https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/keychatter_2016-02-09_17-45-40.png). Then I looked a bit at the Carbon SA, Danger Zone and Granite. Then I looked a bit at a TKL with Jukebox (https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/keychatter_2015-10-14_19-33-58.jpg). I started wondering, if the TKL with Jukebox is so damn pretty, why does the Ergodox render look so, uhm, unexciting?
I think it is the lack of font. The dual color keys creates the charming appeal of Jukebox. Even just the 2u thumb buttons of the Carbon set creates enough colors to keep it exciting. DangerZone more so and same for the Granite.
Does anyone feel the same or just me? Is it possible to spice up a few keys without making them character specific, like for Carbon?
Ah, valid observation. Yeah, I'm finishing up the novelties for it still, it will have a few special keys, notably on the thumb cluster! As an ErgoDox user myself, I won't leave the kit out to dry. Promise :thumb:
The new novelties will probably be shown when the kit actually launches, there are still a few that are being worked on/added/etc as that is the main new addition this time around, along with the new kits and correct shift keys
Post by: IMBoddy on Sun, 20 March 2016, 22:56:41
Post by: metheon on Mon, 21 March 2016, 05:31:52
Ah, valid observation. Yeah, I'm finishing up the novelties for it still, it will have a few special keys, notably on the thumb cluster! As an ErgoDox user myself, I won't leave the kit out to dry. Promise :thumb:
The new novelties will probably be shown when the kit actually launches, there are still a few that are being worked on/added/etc as that is the main new addition this time around, along with the new kits and correct shift keys
Good to hear. Looking forward to seeing it. :)
Post by: metheon on Mon, 21 March 2016, 07:21:36
I think this comes pretty close to defining a good base set. On top of this a horizontal 1.5u control and fn would be nice. If you want to keep costs down how about making the blank and lettered sets separate in the drop?
Also, still waiting on your ErgoDox review ;)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 21 March 2016, 13:11:14
By the way, did you see what DangerZone did (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-11125_20150924142122_87880408e7f6a7f1.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)?
I think this comes pretty close to defining a good base set. On top of this a horizontal 1.5u control and fn would be nice. If you want to keep costs down how about making the blank and lettered sets separate in the drop?
Also, still waiting on your ErgoDox review ;)
Yeah Data did a great job with that. Im still tinkering with that and running those ideas by a few other designers/dox users pretty regularly.
I know! I'm finally getting to the 100% comfort level with its capabilities, there is just so much you can do with it. I've put up a few initial reviews, but im still working on the very in depth one to cover how to program it, lighting, lcd screens, etc, etc. :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 02 April 2016, 11:17:07
Post by: Perfex on Sat, 02 April 2016, 16:04:39
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 02 April 2016, 16:31:26
I was just thinking about the McD's keycaps you created awhile back. Jukebox goes with cars, tv, radio, shakes, burgers and fries. I'm not trying to suggest a novelty set that would overpower the classic theme of vanilla and mint with the splash of red, but I just wanted to add those interests to your amazing set. Maybe in lieu of pictures to the same, perhaps one-word or two-word phrases from the era to replace those TKL keys (not changing the traditional labeling but adding a twist for those interested).
Definitely in for this set when it comes back for a second round. Great idea too for breaking out the TKL standard kit into separated kits. I will pickup extra sets of alphas as I did with Carbon because I end up being able to fill more than one board.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 02 April 2016, 16:47:39
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sat, 02 April 2016, 22:35:47
Post by: Data on Mon, 04 April 2016, 20:04:01
By the way, did you see what DangerZone did (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-11125_20150924142122_87880408e7f6a7f1.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)?
I think this comes pretty close to defining a good base set. On top of this a horizontal 1.5u control and fn would be nice. If you want to keep costs down how about making the blank and lettered sets separate in the drop?
This is good feedback, thanks.
Post by: Dadrophenia on Wed, 06 April 2016, 20:31:49
Post by: dgdosen on Sat, 23 April 2016, 16:33:46
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 23 April 2016, 20:46:28
How about adding a ctrl key on R3 for planck? As a developer, I always re-program caps lock to control anyway...
This can definitely happen!
Be on the lookout for a lot of renders this week as i tighten up an finalize kits for a run right around the corner :thumb:
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 23 April 2016, 21:35:40
How about adding a ctrl key on R3 for planck? As a developer, I always re-program caps lock to control anyway...
This can definitely happen!
Be on the lookout for a lot of renders this week as i tighten up an finalize kits for a run right around the corner :thumb:
Can't wait to see the renders! I'm stoked for this set
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 23 April 2016, 21:59:38
Be on the lookout for a lot of renders this week as i tighten up an finalize kits for a run right around the corner :thumb:
Thank you LSB! I learned my lesson when Engicoder reran 1976, didn't miss it; won't miss this one again either :thumb:
Post by: PriusProblems on Mon, 02 May 2016, 12:28:17
Post by: e_l_tang on Tue, 03 May 2016, 04:47:05
Post by: seville57 on Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:07:07
Anyone got images of this on a white TKL or Full-size keyboard (preferably a Ducky YOTG)? I'm tempted by this, and whilst it looks great on 60% keyboards with barely any bezel, I'm wondering how it will look next to the large white expanses on my YOTG - I'm worried that it may clash a bit.
My Ducky One RGB YOTG with Jukebox SA set, the 2 orange pumpkins caps don't belong to the Jukebox set.
(http://i.imgur.com/RC4ZUDe.jpg)
My Ducky One RGB YOTG and my ISO/Nordic Ducky Shine 3.
(http://i.imgur.com/R5s3icd.jpg)
Post by: PriusProblems on Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:19:19
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:01:40
What are the options for ErgoDox users?
I will have a complete ergodox mod set, and the alphas will be their own kit as well so it will hopefully be relatively cheap for dox users, and not require you to buy keys you dont really need :)
Post by: e_l_tang on Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:00:37
What are the options for ErgoDox users?
I will have a complete ergodox mod set, and the alphas will be their own kit as well so it will hopefully be relatively cheap for dox users, and not require you to buy keys you dont really need :)
What legends will they have, if any?
Post by: gtxorb on Wed, 04 May 2016, 01:09:13
Post by: Tazipocalypse on Fri, 06 May 2016, 08:23:44
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 06 May 2016, 12:32:47
I've finished up development with a small group of people giving me feedback to help speed up the process. As always, I have tried my best to cater to everyone as well as possible, though have tried to keep the kits basic so this is an affordable drop for everyone as well, including Planck and ErgoDox users
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 06 May 2016, 12:46:43
Drop is probably happening next week
This is so cool LSB. Definitely gonna be a fun drop. We need more jukebox!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 06 May 2016, 12:50:55
Drop is probably happening next week
This is so cool LSB. Definitely gonna be a fun drop. We need more jukebox!
Thanks for the support bud :thumb:
Turning in the final renders later today, hopefully no mistakes that need to be addressed and then just logistics before going to drop. So very, very soon now regardless.
I think i have it all worked out so 60%/TKL/Ergodox/Planck users can all cover their boards for less thank $100, some of course cheaper than others. But that was one of my big goals this time around, to set up the kits to cater as evenly as possible to all these different boards. The last time I ran Jukebox, Plancks and Ergodox's were such a minority it wasn't really viable, but thanks to some successful MD drops, there are heaps of users out there, which I love to see :thumb:
Post by: breckstar on Fri, 06 May 2016, 12:52:47
Drop is probably happening next week :rolleyes:Any way we could get a sneak peek at the new novelties or full workup on non R1 layouts before next week? And, possibility for "return" on 1u for planck/preonic/dox?
I've finished up development with a small group of people giving me feedback to help speed up the process. As always, I have tried my best to cater to everyone as well as possible, though have tried to keep the kits basic so this is an affordable drop for everyone as well, including Planck and ErgoDox users
Psyched for next week.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 06 May 2016, 13:28:02
Drop is probably happening next week :rolleyes:Any way we could get a sneak peek at the new novelties or full workup on non R1 layouts before next week? And, possibility for "return" on 1u for planck/preonic/dox?
I've finished up development with a small group of people giving me feedback to help speed up the process. As always, I have tried my best to cater to everyone as well as possible, though have tried to keep the kits basic so this is an affordable drop for everyone as well, including Planck and ErgoDox users
Psyched for next week.
RETURN doesnt fit as well as I'd like on a 1U key, so those still say ENTER. Same with 1U saying CAPS LOCK instead of SHIFT LOCK like the rest of the kits. :confused:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 06 May 2016, 13:30:21
Drop is probably happening next week :rolleyes:Any way we could get a sneak peek at the new novelties or full workup on non R1 layouts before next week? And, possibility for "return" on 1u for planck/preonic/dox?
I've finished up development with a small group of people giving me feedback to help speed up the process. As always, I have tried my best to cater to everyone as well as possible, though have tried to keep the kits basic so this is an affordable drop for everyone as well, including Planck and ErgoDox users
Psyched for next week.
RETURN doesnt fit as well as I'd like on a 1U key, so those still say ENTER. Same with 1U saying CAPS LOCK instead of SHIFT LOCK like the rest of the kits. :confused:
Ah, and on novelties i have added more "text" ones than graphic ones, though there are still a few new graphic ones thanks to Engicoder ;)
Just personally I love a bit more simplified look, and adding some more vintage themed text mods will work well I think. Hopefully people enjoy them
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 06 May 2016, 13:43:59
Hopefully people enjoy them
You're so modest. Watch there be 2,000 orders by the end of the drop :thumb:
You gonna tip your hat across the pond and leave a note on RMK? Not that I've been spying over there or nuffin
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 06 May 2016, 17:02:42
Post by: e_l_tang on Sat, 07 May 2016, 11:00:23
What are the options for ErgoDox users?
I will have a complete ergodox mod set, and the alphas will be their own kit as well so it will hopefully be relatively cheap for dox users, and not require you to buy keys you dont really need :)
What legends will they have, if any?
@livingspeedbump Did you see this?
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 07 May 2016, 11:50:03
What are the options for ErgoDox users?
I will have a complete ergodox mod set, and the alphas will be their own kit as well so it will hopefully be relatively cheap for dox users, and not require you to buy keys you dont really need :)
What legends will they have, if any?
@livingspeedbump Did you see this?
Maybe it's a secret =P
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 08 May 2016, 06:38:34
What are the options for ErgoDox users?
What legends will they have, if any?
@livingspeedbump Did you see this?
Maybe it's a secret =P
Ah, yeah it will have legends!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 08 May 2016, 06:39:27
Hopefully people enjoy them
You're so modest. Watch there be 2,000 orders by the end of the drop :thumb:
You gonna tip your hat across the pond and leave a note on RMK? Not that I've been spying over there or nuffin
Yeah Ill announce it in all places when I have a set date of course ;D
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 08 May 2016, 06:41:45
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 09 May 2016, 22:30:06
Post by: Jedi on Mon, 09 May 2016, 23:01:55
Hit IT
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 09 May 2016, 23:55:38
Big updates err...drops...imminent. :p
Looks like SP is finally catching up on all the orders, for MD to finally re-start this set.
Shall be getting another two complete sets, simply because you can't lose when you hand over your money in Group Buys run by MassDrop.
Only other group I now trust in handing over cash to, is CTRL/ALT.
Post by: gain on Tue, 10 May 2016, 00:55:25
Big updates err...drops...imminent. :p
wew, time to pawn off some stuff to justify a set :thumb:
Post by: Anole on Tue, 10 May 2016, 07:04:29
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 10 May 2016, 08:36:30
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/jukebox-sa-keyset?mode=guest_open
The Jukebox Group Buy is now active on Massdrop!
:thumb:
Here's the GroupBuy Thread
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72777.new#new
Post by: Anole on Tue, 10 May 2016, 09:06:44
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 10 May 2016, 09:15:40
$100 for enough caps to cover a TKL :eek:. Any way to get this set a little cheaper?
The way he has the drop structured, it is possible for a greater than normal number of alpha purchases due to having to purchase them separately regardless of keyboard which tips to $24.99 at 750. That's a bit high on SP's part setting that goal, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:15:42
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:21:20
$100 for enough caps to cover a TKL :eek:. Any way to get this set a little cheaper?
give it a week or so for drop points to be made and prices updated :thumb:
Post by: Anole on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:24:41
Okay, thanks!$100 for enough caps to cover a TKL :eek:. Any way to get this set a little cheaper?
give it a week or so for drop points to be made and prices updated :thumb:
Post by: MMjacksN on Tue, 10 May 2016, 17:14:19
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 10 May 2016, 21:09:24
I'm a little distraught by this, what ever happened to it?
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 23 May 2016, 11:01:25
Post by: Data on Mon, 23 May 2016, 11:23:41
Planck: 1u
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 29 May 2016, 07:48:46
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 29 May 2016, 07:55:50
Thanks for a very successful round 2 everyone <3 Updated OP as well :thumb:
Thank you for making the second run LSB. Very happy that we were able to hit the lowest price point on the alphas.
I remember you saying something about having some extra forum kits. If so, would it still be possible to get one from you?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 29 May 2016, 08:12:04
Thanks for a very successful round 2 everyone <3 Updated OP as well :thumb:
Thank you for making the second run LSB. Very happy that we were able to hit the lowest price point on the alphas.
I remember you saying something about having some extra forum kits. If so, would it still be possible to get one from you?
yeah let me look when i get home! currently at work. i will forget, but ping me here via pm or Skype me under the same name to remind me and ill have a look for ya!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 29 May 2016, 09:51:09
Thanks for a very successful round 2 everyone <3 Updated OP as well :thumb:
Thank you for making the second run LSB. Very happy that we were able to hit the lowest price point on the alphas.
I remember you saying something about having some extra forum kits. If so, would it still be possible to get one from you?
yeah let me look when i get home! currently at work. i will forget, but ping me here via pm or Skype me under the same name to remind me and ill have a look for ya!
Thanks man. I'll shoot you a PM later tonight.
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 31 May 2016, 17:04:54
Post by: Nickjames on Tue, 07 June 2016, 13:06:31
(http://i.imgur.com/RblrIf9.jpg)
Post by: rundeploy on Sun, 27 November 2016, 15:29:07
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 27 November 2016, 17:21:32
Hello, do you still have base kits for selling (and Alternate Color Modifiers Kit may be) ?
This ran on Massdrop back in May. I suspect no sets will be available until MD does another Bazzar sale or round 3 happens. A few sets have already hit /r/mechmarket though, so you might want to give that a shot.
Post by: rundeploy on Thu, 08 December 2016, 08:40:57
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 08 December 2016, 12:06:44
Thank you. I'll probably wait for the round 3 (if it will happen)
It will happen at some point, PMK will also have "round 2.5" extras in the store sooner than later as well
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 09 December 2016, 07:06:07
Thank you. I'll probably wait for the round 3 (if it will happen)
It will happen at some point, PMK will also have "round 2.5" extras in the store sooner than later as well
Do you know if they'll have some of the child kits as well?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 10 December 2016, 10:08:51
Thank you. I'll probably wait for the round 3 (if it will happen)
It will happen at some point, PMK will also have "round 2.5" extras in the store sooner than later as well
Do you know if they'll have some of the child kits as well?
As far as I know they will have all/most of them available.
I will also be letting PMK handle a full run/restock of the set as well sooner than later.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 10 December 2016, 17:00:36
Thank you. I'll probably wait for the round 3 (if it will happen)
It will happen at some point, PMK will also have "round 2.5" extras in the store sooner than later as well
Do you know if they'll have some of the child kits as well?
As far as I know they will have all/most of them available.
I will also be letting PMK handle a full run/restock of the set as well sooner than later.
Great! Thank you!
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 07 January 2017, 20:48:29
(http://i.imgur.com/ywJeuql.jpg)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sun, 08 January 2017, 13:05:56
If anyone has a Non-Standard Adapter Set that they could spare, my TX-1800 would greatly appreciate it ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ywJeuql.jpg)
Oh Lord, that is a fantastic caps+case combo. Hope you get that Adapter set soon.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 08 January 2017, 13:07:58
If anyone has a Non-Standard Adapter Set that they could spare, my TX-1800 would greatly appreciate it ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ywJeuql.jpg)
Oh Lord, that is a fantastic caps+case combo. Hope you get that Adapter set soon.
Thank you =D
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 27 February 2017, 20:34:17
(http://i.imgur.com/BMXJaQF.jpg)
Also, finally finished off my Jukebox build with a r1 forum kit.
(http://i.imgur.com/pj80DoH.jpg)
Post by: tommyonsn on Sun, 24 December 2017, 10:53:54