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Title: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: GROUP BUY IS LIVE
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sat, 30 January 2021, 23:38:23
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GROUP BUY IS LIVE https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112402.0
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UPDATES:

A lot of information has come out in the past couple of days and I want to thank everyone who showed support and really wanted to see DSS Hand Work return in its original form. I cannot begin to express how thankful I am to have a community that not only stands up for what is right, but also wants to see as much inclusion as possible. The return of the original coloring of Hand Work would not have been possible without any of you! From the bottom of my heart, thank you all!

VENDORS
NA: P3D Store
CA: Alphakeys
AU: Switchkeys
Asia: zFrontier
EU: MyKeyboards
UK: Prototypist

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Hi,everyone! I'm Hammer.
I want to welcome you to the introduction of DSS Hand Work.
I like to consider it a faithful reimagining of the original Cherry Handarbeit board, however this time around it uses Signature Plastics stock colors.
DSS is a unique profile, similar to that of DSA but more sculpted
As much as I love the original styling,the board was never released to the general public and only used as a trade show sample. My goal with using Signature Plastics' DSS profile is to not only make the set as affordable and accessible as possible, but also get it into the hands of fan much sooner than GMK queue times.
Signature Plastics queue time is about 10-12 weeks.

What you may notice from the very start is the interesting kitting!
The main idea for this set is to offer a wide range of compatibility that was not present with the original, especially in the 40s department.
As an avid user of all things 40% I decided to make my main focus to support those awesome boards, however, I did not want to leave anyone out meaning the kit also supports all the way up to 104 style layouts!
Any keys that is shared between 40% keyboards and larger ones are kept common and not repeated so there is not an abundance of wasted plastic that is left unused!


As for right now, the set is scheduled to release April 2nd (April fools days wasn't available... I know)
I have a bunch of surprises in store and I hope everyone enjoys the set.

Interest Check Form (https://forms.gle/eXuGxdwPoeYjqA1UA)

Finalized Kitting

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Renders
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Field Trip Designed by u/KnoblesseOblige

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P4KCR3 Designed by u/Jalapeno_Organs

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The 39.99% Designed by Glow

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Program Yoink! Designed by u/Steve_larooo

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Keeblade Designed by Qlavier

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TKC 1800 Designed by u/M1kehoncho

Thank you to everyone who encouraged me to run this set and to everyone that helped in the process. Everything from kitting to color matching and even renders I owe a many favors! And a special shout out to Nasp and MakerJake on discord for the awesome renders and Evan from Trash man keyboards for creating the amazing modifier icons!

Contact Me
discord:TheBlackHammer#7384
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sat, 30 January 2021, 23:38:48
GB is now LIVE https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112402.0
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Ulliam on Sat, 30 January 2021, 23:50:46
But.....
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: paulgali on Sat, 30 January 2021, 23:51:11
DSS is pretty damn nice. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sat, 30 January 2021, 23:52:01
But.....

but..... what ;D
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sat, 30 January 2021, 23:52:14
DSS is pretty damn nice. GLWIC

thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 30 January 2021, 23:55:43
Always love seeing some more DSS sets in the community, although I personally would definitely prefer a different style of mods (maybe text) :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: powwu on Sun, 31 January 2021, 00:16:16
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Ulliam on Sun, 31 January 2021, 00:25:28
But.....

but..... what ;D

Handerbeit was a reference to an old Cherry board, which is way GMK made sense, and thats allot of new moulds for an unorigonal meme.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sun, 31 January 2021, 00:27:47
But.....

but..... what ;D

Handerbeit was a reference to an old Cherry board, which is way GMK made sense, and thats allot of new moulds for an unorigonal meme.
No new molds all molds exist. These are all stock colors from signature plastic. And the legend mods are already in production from SP as other sets are using it! But completely understand your point!


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Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Ulliam on Sun, 31 January 2021, 00:41:56
But.....

but..... what ;D

Handerbeit was a reference to an old Cherry board, which is way GMK made sense, and thats allot of new moulds for an unorigonal meme.
No new molds all molds exist. These are all stock colors from signature plastic. And the legend mods are already in production from SP as other sets are using it! But completely understand your point!


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Which set is making those mods?
Title: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sun, 31 January 2021, 00:45:30
But.....

but..... what ;D

Handerbeit was a reference to an old Cherry board, which is way GMK made sense, and thats allot of new moulds for an unorigonal meme.
No new molds all molds exist. These are all stock colors from signature plastic. And the legend mods are already in production from SP as other sets are using it! But completely understand your point!


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Which set is making those mods?
The first set submitted and already in production is DSA paper work by Trash man keyboards (formally van keyboards). DSS solarized dark (set to run sometime soon) is also running with these mods. There is also DSS shale which is in group buy right now also uses the mods. They have come to be known as trashcons after the Creator

They definitely aren’t for everyone but I’m a huge fan of them!

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Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Ulliam on Sun, 31 January 2021, 00:58:25
But.....

but..... what ;D

Handerbeit was a reference to an old Cherry board, which is way GMK made sense, and thats allot of new moulds for an unorigonal meme.
No new molds all molds exist. These are all stock colors from signature plastic. And the legend mods are already in production from SP as other sets are using it! But completely understand your point!


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Which set is making those mods?
The first set submitted and already in production is DSS paper work by Trash man keyboards (formally van keyboards). DSS solarized dark (set to run sometime soon) is also running with these mods. There is also DSS shale which is in group buy right now also uses the mods. They have come to be known as trashcons after the Creator


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DSA Paper work*, Shale has been canceled & Solarized dark was only posted this week? I wasn't aware DSA/DSS moulds we're interchangable.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sun, 31 January 2021, 01:01:49
But.....

but..... what ;D

Handerbeit was a reference to an old Cherry board, which is way GMK made sense, and thats allot of new moulds for an unorigonal meme.
No new molds all molds exist. These are all stock colors from signature plastic. And the legend mods are already in production from SP as other sets are using it! But completely understand your point!


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Which set is making those mods?
The first set submitted and already in production is DSS paper work by Trash man keyboards (formally van keyboards). DSS solarized dark (set to run sometime soon) is also running with these mods. There is also DSS shale which is in group buy right now also uses the mods. They have come to be known as trashcons after the Creator


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DSA Paper work*, Shale has been canceled & Solarized dark was only posted this week? I wasn't aware DSA/DSS moulds we're interchangable.
Shale was originally canceled, but had since been brought back with a reduced kit at a much cheaper cost. Super excited for that set. A lot of that information as well as information about sol dark and hand work can all be found in the 40s discord. At lot of discussion goes on there!


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Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: hkiri on Sun, 31 January 2021, 03:40:06
Any chance for different mods? At least in the add-on kit?
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: S61 on Sun, 31 January 2021, 04:11:09
wow so colorful which reminds me the candy balls
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Jyll on Sun, 31 January 2021, 11:47:33
I actually like the modifiers, and I’m here for iteration on a meme.

Did you run this by the creator and runner of Handarbeit? I know a R2 for that set was in the works.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Sun, 31 January 2021, 11:52:59
But.....

but..... what ;D

Handerbeit was a reference to an old Cherry board, which is way GMK made sense, and thats allot of new moulds for an unorigonal meme.
No new molds all molds exist. These are all stock colors from signature plastic. And the legend mods are already in production from SP as other sets are using it! But completely understand your point!


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Which set is making those mods?
The first set submitted and already in production is DSS paper work by Trash man keyboards (formally van keyboards). DSS solarized dark (set to run sometime soon) is also running with these mods. There is also DSS shale which is in group buy right now also uses the mods. They have come to be known as trashcons after the Creator


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DSA Paper work*, Shale has been canceled & Solarized dark was only posted this week? I wasn't aware DSA/DSS moulds we're interchangable.

Yes, DSS and DSA doubleshot use the same legends. DSA is like DSS’s kid brother.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: ExcessBread on Sun, 31 January 2021, 12:57:46
Looks good! Looking forward to this. GL!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Rayndalf on Sun, 31 January 2021, 22:55:37
Since it's DSS I'm hopefully for a 40's kit
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Sun, 31 January 2021, 22:57:11
Since it's DSS I'm hopefully for a 40's kit

check kitting I'm sure you'll be surprised  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: misononyan on Mon, 01 February 2021, 00:52:56
I actually like the modifiers, and I’m here for iteration on a meme.

Did you run this by the creator and runner of Handarbeit? I know a R2 for that set was in the works.

handarbeit was made by Cherry

https://pinchocodia.tistory.com/17
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Ustinj on Mon, 01 February 2021, 01:24:06
i don't know the history of handarbeit but if this is cool with whoever created handarbeit then i am all for it. Did my research, Cherry used Handarbeit as a demonstration piece back in the day. i like it, it is fun!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: KiraTau on Mon, 01 February 2021, 02:09:06
I absolutely love this set. Looking forward to the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: lewisflude on Mon, 01 February 2021, 06:19:30
I would love to see a Handarbeit-inspired DSS set without trying to literally replicate the exact colours of each key. Big primary blocks, but done in a way that feels original. As has been mentioned, Handarbeit worked because it was a Cherry reference and this being a different profile is too many degrees away to make total sense. Regardless, best of luck!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: KeepCalm27 on Mon, 01 February 2021, 07:20:13
Really like it! Hope I could see GB happens in 2021!
btw could you consider '7' iso enter pls, which I always use.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 01 February 2021, 07:49:19
Really like it! Hope I could see GB happens in 2021!
btw could you consider '7' iso enter pls, which I always use.

The kit render is missing it, but there’s a note that Terminal ISO support will be provided in the addon kit.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Mon, 01 February 2021, 08:21:17
Really like it! Hope I could see GB happens in 2021!
btw could you consider '7' iso enter pls, which I always use.
Yes iso is supported in this kit! I will add it with a new render coming soon!


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Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: KeepCalm27 on Mon, 01 February 2021, 16:15:50
Really like it! Hope I could see GB happens in 2021!
btw could you consider '7' iso enter pls, which I always use.
Yes iso is supported in this kit! I will add it with a new render coming soon!


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That will be great! I tell my friends, some of them are interested in this great work.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Sicowa on Mon, 01 February 2021, 16:20:55
Reserved!
Needed a reason to try another profile other than cherry.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Mon, 01 February 2021, 16:26:02
Reserved!
Needed a reason to try another profile other than cherry.  :thumb:

you've made a great choice DSS is really nice to type on
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 01 February 2021, 16:44:00
Treeleaf wtb it soon ! But he will not talk because he does not know if it will be succesful
Colorful set like this are Treeleaf's niceties
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Mon, 01 February 2021, 16:46:55
Treeleaf wtb it soon ! But he will not talk because he does not know if it will be succesful
Colorful set like this are Treeleaf's niceties

Treeleaf shall not worry Hand Work will be very successful. Colors are much wow! GB happening soon in may regions :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: KucherenkoZZZ on Tue, 02 February 2021, 06:48:22
Is there a possibility to make a regular text based modifiers? At least as an extras option
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Tue, 02 February 2021, 06:50:03
Is there a possibility to make a regular text based modifiers? At least as an extras option
I thought about it, but SP DSS regular mods do not look that good. The current mods that are used pay homage to the person that gave me the idea for the set as well as to my favorite keyboard the minivan


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Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Tue, 02 February 2021, 08:51:46
Is there a possibility to make a regular text based modifiers? At least as an extras option
I thought about it, but SP DSS regular mods do not look that good. The current mods that are used pay homage to the person that gave me the idea for the set as well as to my favorite keyboard the minivan


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To be fair, SP's text-only mods for DSS look quite good, on the whole.  But their standard DSA / DSS icons aren't great.  And with this being a very 40s-focused set, having a nice, cohesive-looking set of icon-based mods definitely makes more sense.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work
Post by: Radon86 on Tue, 16 February 2021, 04:02:31
Hi, just wanted to ask, should the numpad enter key be a pale green colour like in gmk handarbeit, instead of the dark blue as currently shown in the renders? I think SP has some stock pale green colour options. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Fri, 19 March 2021, 09:46:19
HEY, were back and better than ever! I will look into come colors for that pale green!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: Bub on Fri, 19 March 2021, 10:19:10
nice
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Fri, 19 March 2021, 10:48:20
Any second b avail?
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: dededecline on Fri, 19 March 2021, 10:54:37
Any second b avail?

I'd also like this
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: smshark on Fri, 19 March 2021, 13:01:17
2nd B in base kit and at least 1 3u bar would be awesome (2 is ideal)...late notice but hopefully not too late
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 19 March 2021, 13:02:50
second b is a meme and can go in extension kits for people who really want it

im probably in for this

id rather have text mods instead of these icons but it's handarbeit so it matters less
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: Ustinj on Fri, 19 March 2021, 13:33:45
Hot take and just an opinion, I don't truly understand the importance of second B in base kit - I get that putting an extra B in the base kit allows users to have two B's on alice layout boards while using shifts as spacebars, but if people are willing to use keys with shift legends on their spacebars I would have assumed they'd be fine using one of the many R4 keys (up arrow, CODE, SUPER, 00, etc) as a second B! Also, I find that I personally hit B with a certain hand each time so the legend isn't of utmost importance.

Anyway, glad to support DSS Hand Work and hope to see a price I can back without any buyer's remorse. Very interested in trying the DSS profile. The icon mods are cool and innovative but definitely adds more to the 'toyish' vibe of Handarbeit. I feel these icon mods would look really good on something 'serious' like WoB to balance that out. GLWIC

(btw, why is there a 1.75u Z)
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Fri, 19 March 2021, 14:18:44
Hot take and just an opinion, I don't truly understand the importance of second B in base kit - I get that putting an extra B in the base kit allows users to have two B's on alice layout boards while using shifts as spacebars, but if people are willing to use keys with shift legends on their spacebars I would have assumed they'd be fine using one of the many R4 keys (up arrow, CODE, SUPER, 00, etc) as a second B! Also, I find that I personally hit B with a certain hand each time so the legend isn't of utmost importance.

Anyway, glad to support DSS Hand Work and hope to see a price I can back without any buyer's remorse. Very interested in trying the DSS profile. The icon mods are cool and innovative but definitely adds more to the 'toyish' vibe of Handarbeit. I feel these icon mods would look really good on something 'serious' like WoB to balance that out. GLWIC

(btw, why is there a 1.75u Z)

Well, it looks like there is a mega base kit now which contains spacebars that can be used in an alice type layout. If the base kit is going to be that large I don't see why adding a 2nd B would be a big deal. If the runner decides to break down the base kit I wouldn't mind it being added to a spacebar or extension kit but as of right now there isn't one available.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Fri, 19 March 2021, 14:30:42
2nd B in base kit and at least 1 3u bar would be awesome (2 is ideal)...late notice but hopefully not too late
Second b shouldn’t be a problem. I’ll run it past SP and see what they quote me at!


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Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: dededecline on Fri, 19 March 2021, 14:47:33
(btw, why is there a 1.75u Z)

QAZ support

(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/274670099/2E129729-F539-4DE2-BA12-11686A638810.jpeg?auto=format&fit=max&w=1120)
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: Ustinj on Fri, 19 March 2021, 14:54:44
(btw, why is there a 1.75u Z)

QAZ support

Show Image
(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/274670099/2E129729-F539-4DE2-BA12-11686A638810.jpeg?auto=format&fit=max&w=1120)


Wow! That's something. TIL

Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: Zanhana on Fri, 19 March 2021, 15:34:49
any chance of 2x 3u spacebars, or a 1u equals key for the numpad?
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: hkiri on Fri, 19 March 2021, 16:27:59
QAZ support? Hell yeah, I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: Tree_ on Fri, 19 March 2021, 19:24:40
100% in.
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: husnulhamidiah on Sat, 20 March 2021, 10:17:29
please add another 2.25u in R4 to support 66% layout like FC660M/FC660C, clueboard, TX 66, etc
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: ravermeister on Fri, 26 March 2021, 11:27:12
Am I correct assuming the mini bars are concave 'flat dsa' ?
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Fri, 26 March 2021, 11:55:45
Am I correct assuming the mini bars are concave 'flat dsa' ?
Yes, that is correct


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Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: WE ARE BACK!
Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 26 March 2021, 12:15:05
You're back? You're back! Yay
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: GROUP BUY STARTS APRIL 2
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Wed, 31 March 2021, 14:21:23
GROUP BUY DELAYED Pricing will be released either later today or tomorrow (Just waiting to hear back from all my vendors). I also have a couple of last minute surprises for everyone!!!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: DELAYED :( (Sould be back with good new soon)
Post by: eternalbuzz on Thu, 01 April 2021, 16:35:44
Finding this the day before release via a rabbit hole of a link on drop makes me so excited. Just got caught up, emptied my drop shopping cart and all in for these. Have gmk handar, so in on this <3
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: DELAYED :( (Sould be back with good new soon)
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Thu, 01 April 2021, 22:27:01
Finding this the day before release via a rabbit hole of a link on drop makes me so excited. Just got caught up, emptied my drop shopping cart and all in for these. Have gmk handar, so in on this <3

Awesome man! happy to have you on board. the set is actually delayed due to me not being entirely happy with the kitting and wanted it to be cheaper. the set should still run in april, if not early may and will definitely get in your hands way before SA Handarbeit even gets made. For DSS manufacturing time is about 10-12 weeks instead of the 1+ year for SA. Along with the delay will come several amazing collaborations that will be announced shortly with some amazing creators! Hoping you and everyone else loves whats coming up!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: DELAYED :( (Sould be back with good new soon)
Post by: Jyll on Sat, 03 April 2021, 08:26:04
Let’s freaking GO!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: DELAYED :( (Sould be back with good new soon)
Post by: Aros on Tue, 06 April 2021, 17:01:23
hi! i was a bit naive when i ordered the Drop SP SA Handarbeit but upon reading through the history and a bit of the 'drama'  :)) got interested with the Hand Work and signed up in the IC form. Any idea how much the set is going to cost? I know exact numbers aren't available yet but even just an estimate would be fine just so I know if I can afford both an SA and a DSS profile or would have to choose 1 :)
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: NEW GROUP BUY DATE IS APRIL 21
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Tue, 13 April 2021, 14:38:35
Hey sorry for the late message. the pricing is going to be extremely affordable. should be in the range of 130-150 with shipping depending on region. Really appreciate all the support!
Title: Re: [IC] DSS Hand Work UPDATE: NEW GROUP BUY DATE IS APRIL 21
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Tue, 20 April 2021, 22:09:15
Group Buy is now LIVE. Thank you everyone for the support! https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112402.0