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Offline Brodie337

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« Reply #100 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 14:48:50 »
Well, thats heartening news.

I'l probably buy it tonight after work.

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« Reply #101 on: Thu, 04 February 2010, 15:43:08 »
I've tried the brown Cherries and I was disappointed with the level of tactile feedback they deliver as well. I wouldn't go calling them special "tactile" switches, but on other sites, people tend to call them "low-force" switches, which is pretty accurate as they require little force to actuate.
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« Reply #102 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:35:28 »
im about to get a Filco Brown for work, and will keep using a BS M at work......im hoping that the daily transition wont be too confusing. Well if it is ill just get another Filco!!!
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« Reply #103 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:36:52 »
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im about to get a Filco Brown for work, and will keep using a BS M at work

Damn, you must live at work.  Take a break, man!


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« Reply #104 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:38:41 »
Holy crap......i mean brown for home and M at work. (im a strict 9-5er :))
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« Reply #105 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:40:45 »
Not me, I'm salaried. I have the rare and unique opportunity to work whenever and whereever my employer tells me. It's OK, though, I usually work 7-5 and they give me a laptop.
 
 
And it's employment, so I'm not complaining.


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« Reply #106 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:43:02 »
i hope a decent laptop at least.....(as in not an Acer)
Guessing you are in IT?
the Filco is an attempt to appease my wife who hates my collection of Ms. This will be my first excursion away from them - i hope i am not dissapointed
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« Reply #107 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:49:16 »
It's a Dell D620 w/Intel graphics.  It's not great, but it gets the job done.  My work PC is a hoss, though (quad core, 4GB RAM, blah, blah, blah).  I don't work in IT, but I am a Data Analyst and SQL Jedi Master.  I do stuff like setting up data for our signs and tags system, competitive pricing, and some reporting/web dev stuff (I work for a grocery company).  I'm sort of a jack-of-all-trades.


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« Reply #108 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:52:44 »
Quote from: itlnstln;156594
It's a Dell D620 w/Intel graphics.  It's not great, but it gets the job done.  My work PC is a hoss, though (quad core, 4GB RAM, blah, blah, blah).  I don't work in IT, but I am a Data Analyst and SQL Jedi Master.  I do stuff like setting up data for our signs and tags system, competitive pricing, and some reporting/web dev stuff (I work for a grocery company).  I'm sort of a jack-of-all-trades.


My Dad owned a small grocery store.  Do you mind me asking what grocery chain you work for?

I just left a role doing mostly data analytics and data mining work using sql too... moved into a governance role.  Basically moved from struggling with difficult data, to struggling with difficult people... I will let you know how that turns out!
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« Reply #109 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:53:58 »
I actually did the Filco Cherry Brown - Model M BS switch thing for a while... never worked out. You end up accentuating the bad points on both:

While on the Filco Brown: "man this thing is way too light, I feel no tactile bump at all!!!!!@!@"

While on the Model M: "This is way too loud, all I hear are the springs, I can't concentrate!"
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« Reply #110 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:56:08 »
What did you end up doing?
I LOVE the CLICK of the board......clients say they can hear me working while im on the phone. I could always run 2 boards at home. Does anyone else here do that...... :)


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I actually did the Filco Cherry Brown - Model M BS switch thing for a while... never worked out. You end up accentuating the bad points on both:

While on the Filco Brown: "man this thing is way too light, I feel no tactile bump at all!!!!!@!@"

While on the Model M: "This is way too loud, all I hear are the springs, I can't concentrate!"
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« Reply #111 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:58:05 »
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My Dad owned a small grocery store. Do you mind me asking what grocery chain you work for?
 
I just left a role doing mostly data analytics and data mining work using sql too... moved into a governance role. Basically moved from struggling with difficult data, to struggling with difficult people... I will let you know how that turns out!

 
I work for these people.*  We are the largest private grocer in the US.
 
 
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« Reply #112 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:59:26 »
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What did you end up doing?
I LOVE the CLICK of the board......clients say they can hear me working while im on the phone. I could always run 2 boards at home. Does anyone else here do that...... :)

I buy at least 2 keyboards of each switch to avoid this very situation.  That's why my sig is something like "*(2)."


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« Reply #113 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 15:59:41 »
Quote from: trievalot;156601
What did you end up doing?
I LOVE the CLICK of the board......clients say they can hear me working while im on the phone. I could always run 2 boards at home. Does anyone else here do that...... :)


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Offline trievalot

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« Reply #114 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 16:01:21 »
So im guessing from your sig, you got a realforce?


Quote from: ocdonkb;156599
I actually did the Filco Cherry Brown - Model M BS switch thing for a while... never worked out. You end up accentuating the bad points on both:

While on the Filco Brown: "man this thing is way too light, I feel no tactile bump at all!!!!!@!@"

While on the Model M: "This is way too loud, all I hear are the springs, I can't concentrate!"
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« Reply #115 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 16:03:23 »
we must have submitted at the same time!
the driver for the filco is to keep my wife happy....she no likes my M anymore, and has threatened to put a USB dome board there.
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« Reply #116 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 16:05:06 »
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The jump from almost anything to Cherry browns is pretty drastic, so you probably aren't going to get the full experience.  I went from ALPS to Cherry browns and I shared the same opinion at first about them being too light and practically linear.  I stuck with an MX 11800 for a couple of weeks, and I really came to enjoy the switches the more I got to use them.  For about a year now, I have been on some sort of Cherry brown-based keyboard.


I bought a majestouch brown for work. First day i was using excessive force to press the keys. They were bottoming out a lot. The filco's thin keycaps were hitting the metal plate and made a sharp and loud sound.

The second  day i started adjusting and realized that the feel was way better using less force. From that point on i tried to use only just enough pressure to activate the keys.

 After two months with it i really enjoy the brown switches. When i type relatively fast (im not a touch typist) with very little pressure, it feels very smooth and i do get gentle tiny feedback from the switches.
 
In contrast, i use a model M at home. I like the M too but i when i first touch it for the first time after work, i get this feeling that i should start making an effort to type.
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Offline trievalot

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« Reply #117 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 16:07:20 »
i did try the F for a bit before putting it in storage......the contrast between F and M is huge, the cherry brown to F would be like a lead switch.
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« Reply #118 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 16:16:27 »
Quote from: trievalot;156606
we must have submitted at the same time!
the driver for the filco is to keep my wife happy....she no likes my M anymore, and has threatened to put a USB dome board there.


Here's the thing though, and I went through this myself - If you're a Model M user, and you've adapted to the tactility/resistence of the BS switch, using a Cherry Brown board will almost be just as loud, because you'll inevitably bottom out all of the time.

You can try to train yourself for a lighter touch, but that'd be hard if at the same time you're also moonlighting on the Model M. :)
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« Reply #119 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 17:40:35 »
You can try to make your wife happy with a keyboard, but unless she's a geek, too, then I wouldn't try too hard with it.  Go for flowers or something else she might really like.  For my GF, it's Chicago Cubs and Bears memorabilia, flowers, and wine.  She could give a damn less about a keyboard.
 
 
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« Reply #120 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 17:41:44 »
When I get bored at work, I always take a trip to the Geekhack forum.
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« Reply #121 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 17:45:48 »
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When I get bored at work, I always take a trip to the Geekhack forum.

Yep.  That's why I'm here 11-12 hours a day and only on business days.


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« Reply #122 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 23:16:06 »
I'll be around on iPhone now! Thanks imav!!!
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« Reply #123 on: Fri, 05 February 2010, 23:40:02 »
When I get bored at work, I always take a trip to the Geekhack forum on a web translator that translates from English to well...English.

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« Reply #124 on: Sat, 06 February 2010, 16:35:37 »
Just an update...

I'm just waiting on some money to go into paypal, and I should have bought the board come Monday or Tuesday.

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« Reply #125 on: Sat, 06 February 2010, 16:57:51 »
what did you decide on again? and where from and cost ? (lots of questions sorry)
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« Reply #126 on: Sat, 06 February 2010, 18:06:11 »
I'm going to go for a Filco Tenkeyless with Cherry Brown switches, and a spare set of blank keycaps, all from Elite Keyboards.

Cost is around $180AU, including shipping to aus.

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« Reply #127 on: Sat, 06 February 2010, 21:21:37 »
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I'm going to go for a Filco Tenkeyless with Cherry Brown switches, and a spare set of blank keycaps, all from Elite Keyboards.

Cost is around $180AU, including shipping to aus.


Enjoy your keyboard, and never come back here :-) If you do, you may end up with a keyboard collection.

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« Reply #128 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 02:35:59 »
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Enjoy your keyboard, and never come back here :-) If you do, you will end up with a large keyboard collection.


There, amended for accuracy.
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« Reply #129 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 08:20:52 »
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There, amended for accuracy.


More accurate indeed :-)

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« Reply #130 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 08:26:30 »
now i feel like adding blacks to my list.....
we need more people to post cheap rubber domes here.....too many casualties caused by mechanical switches thread :P
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« Reply #131 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 13:04:04 »
When I joined this forum I had 2 keyboards. Now I have 7.
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« Reply #132 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 15:05:18 »
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When I joined this forum I had 2 keyboards. Now I have 7.


Get out of town !  No way! Seven??? You have seven keyboards???
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« Reply #133 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 15:06:26 »
Yes. I have 1 Model M5-2, 1 ALPS keyboard, and 5 old rubber dome keyboards from the 1980's and early 1990's.
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« Reply #134 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 18:06:17 »
Oh, well. We thought you meant you were up to 7 mechanical boards. That would have been TOTALLY out of character.

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« Reply #135 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 18:37:38 »
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Oh, well. We thought you meant you were up to 7 mechanical boards. That would have been TOTALLY out of character.

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« Reply #136 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 20:50:35 »
I have only 2.5 Model Ms. I really really need my order of nuts n bolts to get here.
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Offline trievalot

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« Reply #137 on: Thu, 11 February 2010, 05:35:46 »
I started with 1 modem m
Just got my Filco Brown 87 and extra keypad today (THANKS HAATA)
MAN its nice. so quiet but still nice to type on. (unless you bottom out the keys like my wife :P)
Now i have 4 Ms, an F and the Filco. (do i want a Topre ??)
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« Reply #138 on: Thu, 11 February 2010, 05:40:09 »
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Get out of town !  No way! Seven??? You have seven keyboards???


Max, you have more than that many Fs!

wow the difference between the Filco brown and F is HUGE. i do like the F still though, feels so satisfying.
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