Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/
Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/
Cancel the f****** group buy.
Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/
Cancel the f****** group buy.
Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/
Cancel the f****** group buy.
Pack it up folks! :)
Do you have any renders with caps? I like the idea but I'm having a hard time visualizing some of my favorite sets on the board.
Lovely design, ortho sucks. It'll drastically benefit from a staggered PCB+plate option if the cost increase is not prohibitive.That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout. Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.
That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout. Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.
This IC clearly isn't for you.
Edit: OP, I think a concrete case would be awesome for this board, have you considered trying to make one? I might try to make one if this hits MOQ.
I might have come on too strong, but my opinion still stands. I'm only trying to defend op's design language, which I happen to like quite a lot. I would be upset if this entire IC were to be switched to a staggered layout, which is why I am defending ortho linear.That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout. Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.
This IC clearly isn't for you.
Edit: OP, I think a concrete case would be awesome for this board, have you considered trying to make one? I might try to make one if this hits MOQ.
Why are you offended on OP's behalf? Calm down. The fact I'm even addressing this is completely ridiculous but alas;
Firstly, it's BLATANT that I was referring to an opinion without having to elongate the response for no reason. In my opinion, ortho sucks. Obviously I'm not stating ortholinear as a whole is a disgusting practice and everyone should be ashamed for liking it, you inferring that from my statement is showing bias on your end if nothing else.
You have absolutely not business telling me if an IC is for me or not, especially after I specified that I love the design and want the project to be successful, I believe (in this case I think it to be factual so if you wanna attack anything, do it here) that'll be an easier road if a staggered plate+PCB being offered is a possibility without straying too far from the original idea(s) and/or being cost prohibitive.
I might have come on too strong, but my opinion still stands. I'm only trying to defend op's design language, which I happen to like quite a lot. I would be upset if this entire IC were to be switched to a staggered layout, which is why I am defending ortho linear.That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout. Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.
This IC clearly isn't for you.
Edit: OP, I think a concrete case would be awesome for this board, have you considered trying to make one? I might try to make one if this hits MOQ.
Why are you offended on OP's behalf? Calm down. The fact I'm even addressing this is completely ridiculous but alas;
Firstly, it's BLATANT that I was referring to an opinion without having to elongate the response for no reason. In my opinion, ortho sucks. Obviously I'm not stating ortholinear as a whole is a disgusting practice and everyone should be ashamed for liking it, you inferring that from my statement is showing bias on your end if nothing else.
You have absolutely not business telling me if an IC is for me or not, especially after I specified that I love the design and want the project to be successful, I believe (in this case I think it to be factual so if you wanna attack anything, do it here) that'll be an easier road if a staggered plate+PCB being offered is a possibility without straying too far from the original idea(s) and/or being cost prohibitive.
I realize that you're definitely correct, more people will be interested if there is a staggered option. I only meant to defend what I believe to be a good design with obvious aesthetic choices, therefore I apologize that my intent was misinterpreted, I should not have called your attitude garbage.
Ideally, both options would be available. I hope this gets more exposure, maybe then different layouts will be more viable/cost effective.
A Standard 40% Stagger Option will be available. However, it will be an additional cost. Plate+Staggered PCB.
The Staggered option is same as Daisy & asymmetrical bottom row. :thumb:
Ne 2x2u spacebar?????
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Any chance of a render with the 40% staggered look?
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Any chance of a render with the 40% staggered look?
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Absolutely!
I'm not very good at key cap renders so I'm recruiting some help for that.
How cheap is "the cheapest case possible"?
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My goodness GMK Vaporwave would look amazing on the powder teal case.Omg I didn't even think about that but you're right
Prototypes have arrived!If this ends up being the final design would there be more options besides the clear acrylic? I really liked the sound console / Atari 2600 vibe I was seeing previously. Not sure the clear acrylic would fit my taste personally, but I'm not the one designing it lolShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/o4ByHlj.jpg)
Its such a beautiful feeling Case. Everything lines up to the T and Im incredibly happy with the fit and finish overall.
This is part of a new design Im testing out:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ObB92kt.jpg)
The goal being: Make the cheapest Case Possible, while also retaining the feel of the original design.
The bottom and rear are designed to be cut from 3mm Acrylic Sheets. I also have those in, just waiting for the FR4 Testing Plates and then Ill have a full Build ready for evaluation!
Prototypes have arrived!If this ends up being the final design would there be more options besides the clear acrylic? I really liked the sound console / Atari 2600 vibe I was seeing previously. Not sure the clear acrylic would fit my taste personally, but I'm not the one designing it lolShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/o4ByHlj.jpg)
Its such a beautiful feeling Case. Everything lines up to the T and Im incredibly happy with the fit and finish overall.
This is part of a new design Im testing out:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ObB92kt.jpg)
The goal being: Make the cheapest Case Possible, while also retaining the feel of the original design.
The bottom and rear are designed to be cut from 3mm Acrylic Sheets. I also have those in, just waiting for the FR4 Testing Plates and then Ill have a full Build ready for evaluation!
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What about a "higher end" option that's not an acrylic bottom? My Hadron V3 has a clear acrylic bottom, and it's a little more fragile than I'd like. Looking at your prototype pcb, does this mean the upper section is going to be handwire?How cheap is "the cheapest case possible"?
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Less than the original estimate lol.
What about a "higher end" option that's not an acrylic bottom? My Hadron V3 has a clear acrylic bottom, and it's a little more fragile than I'd like. Looking at your prototype pcb, does this mean the upper section is going to be handwire?How cheap is "the cheapest case possible"?
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Less than the original estimate lol.
You wanna talk retro, let's see those pcbs with some clear/honey solder mask. That would be God-tier.What about a "higher end" option that's not an acrylic bottom? My Hadron V3 has a clear acrylic bottom, and it's a little more fragile than I'd like. Looking at your prototype pcb, does this mean the upper section is going to be handwire?How cheap is "the cheapest case possible"?
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Less than the original estimate lol.
That's the other good thing about this design. For those that want a more "Premium" type case, I have the means to have the option for the bottom and back to be CNC/Laser Cut 3mm Aluminum (Matching Case Color) Or 3mm Polished Brass!
This new design is just an experiment and definitely isn't final, but it seems this is a great compromise to some of the walls we have run into.
And The Upper section does indeed have its own PCB. I Just didn't include that in the pic. The top and bottom PCBs connect using a fairly standard JST connector. :)
Again, The PCB's are both Through-Hole style DIY builds with Breakout board to rear of case. This Keeps that "retro" aesthetic intact and prominent, and allows us to include some fancier things Like Through-Hole, Terminal-Mounted LEMO Connectors and Some other fancy add-ons.
You wanna talk retro, let's see those pcbs with some clear/honey solder mask. That would be God-tier.What about a "higher end" option that's not an acrylic bottom? My Hadron V3 has a clear acrylic bottom, and it's a little more fragile than I'd like. Looking at your prototype pcb, does this mean the upper section is going to be handwire?How cheap is "the cheapest case possible"?
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Less than the original estimate lol.
That's the other good thing about this design. For those that want a more "Premium" type case, I have the means to have the option for the bottom and back to be CNC/Laser Cut 3mm Aluminum (Matching Case Color) Or 3mm Polished Brass!
This new design is just an experiment and definitely isn't final, but it seems this is a great compromise to some of the walls we have run into.
And The Upper section does indeed have its own PCB. I Just didn't include that in the pic. The top and bottom PCBs connect using a fairly standard JST connector. :)
Again, The PCB's are both Through-Hole style DIY builds with Breakout board to rear of case. This Keeps that "retro" aesthetic intact and prominent, and allows us to include some fancier things Like Through-Hole, Terminal-Mounted LEMO Connectors and Some other fancy add-ons.
You speak my language. That's exactly what I wanted to hear.What about a "higher end" option that's not an acrylic bottom? My Hadron V3 has a clear acrylic bottom, and it's a little more fragile than I'd like. Looking at your prototype pcb, does this mean the upper section is going to be handwire?How cheap is "the cheapest case possible"?
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Less than the original estimate lol.
That's the other good thing about this design. For those that want a more "Premium" type case, I have the means to have the option for the bottom and back to be CNC/Laser Cut 3mm Aluminum (Matching Case Color) Or 3mm Polished Brass!
This new design is just an experiment and definitely isn't final, but it seems this is a great compromise to some of the walls we have run into.
And The Upper section does indeed have its own PCB. I Just didn't include that in the pic. The top and bottom PCBs connect using a fairly standard JST connector. :)
Again, The PCB's are both Through-Hole style DIY builds with Breakout board to rear of case. This Keeps that "retro" aesthetic intact and prominent, and allows us to include some fancier things Like Through-Hole, Terminal-Mounted LEMO Connectors and Some other fancy add-ons.
NO Soldermask (or "Clear") would be pretty cool honestly. Right now we are looking at Either, Green, White, or Yellow PCB with Gold Surface Finish. Should be really pretty.
NO Soldermask (or "Clear") would be pretty cool honestly. Right now we are looking at Either, Green, White, or Yellow PCB with Gold Surface Finish. Should be really pretty.
Well, it would have to have SOME kind of solder mask, haha. I've been informed by PCB designers that you'd get corrosion if you didn't have anything at all protecting the traces. I'm just a really big sucker for that milky clear look on some super vintage boards. Or just retro design in general. hmm, now I want wood paneling on it too. I need to stop while it's still somewhat viable. :p
I can provide that one myself, complete with 15 year old ash! I'll make sure to give it a good dusting for that authentic feel.
NO Soldermask (or "Clear") would be pretty cool honestly. Right now we are looking at Either, Green, White, or Yellow PCB with Gold Surface Finish. Should be really pretty.
Well, it would have to have SOME kind of solder mask, haha. I've been informed by PCB designers that you'd get corrosion if you didn't have anything at all protecting the traces. I'm just a really big sucker for that milky clear look on some super vintage boards. Or just retro design in general. hmm, now I want wood paneling on it too. I need to stop while it's still somewhat viable.
Transparent Soldermask is possible! The Results vary quite a bit. Prob. too much for our use case lol. I think we will be plenty happy with Green/Yellow in the end. Those are my favorite ones.
Might as well give it an Ash-Tray while we are at it lol
Ooooof cant wait how many switches am i gonna need for this
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Oh damn, the screen is gone?
Oh damn, the screen is gone?
IIRC it was ditched after the IC poll
Any chance of a preonic (5 row) version? I love my number row :DI second this! Though I don't really expect it to be a possibility in this buy, I would jump at a Preonic version.
Thirded.Any chance of a preonic (5 row) version? I love my number row :DI second this! Though I don't really expect it to be a possibility in this buy, I would jump at a Preonic version.
Show a render with caps to get a feel of the final product.
Show a render with caps to get a feel of the final product.
How about an actual pic!?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZunMYgg.jpg)
Show a render with caps to get a feel of the final product.
How about an actual pic!?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZunMYgg.jpg)
Yesss. So when will the GB go live? @~@ Will this release before your Soap board?
Got Her All Built Today:Is the round thing functional, or just for show?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vp9XtW0.jpg)
Got Her All Built Today:Is the round thing functional, or just for show?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vp9XtW0.jpg)
This is why I come on Geekhack. Nobody needs another TKL :-*
Got Her All Built Today:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vp9XtW0.jpg)
Nice! How will it be programmed?Got Her All Built Today:Is the round thing functional, or just for show?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vp9XtW0.jpg)
Its a Rotary Encoder!
Nice! How will it be programmed?Got Her All Built Today:Is the round thing functional, or just for show?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vp9XtW0.jpg)
Its a Rotary Encoder!
Not a 40% user. Not an ortholinear user. But I like it a lot. Do we have a price?
I know its likely a big ask - but if there was an option for a premium option with a screen that would be incredible.+1 even if it's like a secondary module or like a new pcb I need to swap out after the initial GB
Was there insufficient interest in the IC for an OLED addition?
+1I know its likely a big ask - but if there was an option for a premium option with a screen that would be incredible.+1 even if it's like a secondary module or like a new pcb I need to swap out after the initial GB
Was there insufficient interest in the IC for an OLED addition?
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Not an ortho user, I'd jump on this if its staggered.
But cool design!
This is part of a new design Im testing out:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ObB92kt.jpg)
The goal being: Make the cheapest Case Possible, while also retaining the feel of the original design.
The bottom and rear are designed to be cut from 3mm Acrylic Sheets. I also have those in, just waiting for the FR4 Testing Plates and then Ill have a full Build ready for evaluation!
Any updates?
Is this a 40% planck like on the bottom or a 50% Preonic type? Im in 100% for a 50%. Im out for a 40%.
I never knew I needed a keyboard this small! This thing looks rad!
I'm sad about removing the fullbrass version :(Aww, I didn't even notice. :(
KMK Labs
Very sad to see that yellow color go and no option to add an OLED screen.
Will the GB be a raffle or FCFS?
Very sad to see that yellow color go and no option to add an OLED screen.
Will the GB be a raffle or FCFS?
Im thinking of doing maybe 5-10 custom powder coat ones. At an additional cost of course. I need to get a quote this week from a local body shop Ive done business with before.
And Im still thinking on the sale type I want to do. FCFS is easier speed and invoice management wise, but as someone with slower than average Internet speed, a Raffle is something I always personally preferred. Raffle also seems the fairest.
Ill should probably make the form and take opinions from everyone. I will, however, announce a decision on it a good bit of time before the GB.
I love your design and concept. I just wish it was in a more practical format like TKL or even 100+%. I find a lot of these boards are really pretty and great fun to build but ultimately you end up using something else to work on.
That said, I love that you are doing something different from the standard 60% that is now just saturated with keebs.
did you ever share a kle layout to what the staggered option would look like?
Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but will the PCB be hot swappable? Love what Im seeing and loving the updates!!
Also been working on something a little different on the side.
A cheaper Bent Steel variant of The Ave.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pX1dsRJ.png)
Im hoping to get around to testing the design/fabrication here in the near future.
Also been working on something a little different on the side.
A cheaper Bent Steel variant of The Ave.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pX1dsRJ.png)
Im hoping to get around to testing the design/fabrication here in the near future.
What a quirky take -- I love it. Looks rough around the edges in all the right places.
Also been working on something a little different on the side.
A cheaper Bent Steel variant of The Ave.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pX1dsRJ.png)
Im hoping to get around to testing the design/fabrication here in the near future.
Also been working on something a little different on the side.Ah **** I might have to cop this
A cheaper Bent Steel variant of The Ave.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pX1dsRJ.png)
Im hoping to get around to testing the design/fabrication here in the near future.
Also been working on something a little different on the side.It's the Blue Steel edition (context: https://www.dictionary.com/e/fictional-characters/blue-steel/ )
A cheaper Bent Steel variant of The Ave.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pX1dsRJ.png)
Im hoping to get around to testing the design/fabrication here in the near future.
did you ever share a kle layout to what the staggered option would look like?
Heres the layout we are currently looking at:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/j88UGZy.png)
Still not 100% set on it but it seems to be okay with most people.
THIS IS AMAZZINNG , take my money please!!!!!! One question, will there be feet options? If so what angle will it prop it up to?
did you ever share a kle layout to what the staggered option would look like?
Heres the layout we are currently looking at:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/j88UGZy.png)
Still not 100% set on it but it seems to be okay with most people.
if you could make the split spacebars 2.75, 1.75, 1.75 it would be possible to get them in convex. i dont think GMK makes a 1.5u convex spacebar. just mentioning this because i know ortho is typically monoprofileShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/SU69nD5.jpg)
I know you said that it will support two 2u spacebars. But it looks like the final plate renders only support one. Can you confirm whether it is two or one?
Also, is polycarb still being considered? @_@
That look so good!!! Hoping that the GB will start Q1 2020? ;D
No Polycarbonate Mainly because I want to do some more work on the best process for inset brass (or likewise) threading. I know PC is strong but I personally would want Metal to metal threading.
Proto looks good! :thumb:
Is there renders with caps on somewhere? or maybe we can see the proto built with caps later ;)
Proto looks good! :thumb:
Is there renders with caps on somewhere? or maybe we can see the proto built with caps later ;)
Here are a few with GMK Finer Things by Abec13 :cool:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wUQ8d1q.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6ep37BL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vR32c1k.jpg)
Here are a few with GMK Finer Things by Abec13 :cool:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6ep37BL.jpg)
@The_Royal, if you'd like, I can do some extensive, long term testing on that board for you :D
I cannot wait for this board!!
@The_Royal, if you'd like, I can do some extensive, long term testing on that board for you :D
I cannot wait for this board!!
Your Offer Intrigues me...Lol
If you get that staggered PCB up and running ill be waiting in earnest, a beautiful board but ortho wasn't for my sausage fingers, excited for this!
Aw yis, bring me that e-yellow
IKR!? I HAD TO SKIP THE POLARIS SO I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AN E-YELLOW BOARD YET!?Aw yis, bring me that e-yellow
IM STOKED TO HAVE IT BE AN OPTION!!!!
IKR!? I HAD TO SKIP THE POLARIS SO I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AN E-YELLOW BOARD YET!?Aw yis, bring me that e-yellow
IM STOKED TO HAVE IT BE AN OPTION!!!!
YES!!!IKR!? I HAD TO SKIP THE POLARIS SO I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AN E-YELLOW BOARD YET!?Aw yis, bring me that e-yellow
IM STOKED TO HAVE IT BE AN OPTION!!!!
YOU WILL HAVE YOUR YELLOW SOON MY FRIEND
Max diameter for the knob? Time to go knob shoppin. @~@
Chance for E-white in the next set of colors?
Im loving the aesthetics here. Id probably go for staggered because Im too lazy to teach my fingers to move for ortholinear.
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wtb E-Beige for the true battlestation aesthetics tbhDangit, Dale. Now I want to see this too.
wtb E-Beige for the true battlestation aesthetics tbh
praise be the beige.wtb E-Beige for the true battlestation aesthetics tbh
Proto type is being cerakoted sandstorm beige as we speak!
Thought about offering it but you would be surprised to find out how many people don't like that aged look.
Maybe Next Run with E-White.
In Response to The Highly Suggested Request, heres a few Staggered Renders!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5yVMP17.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rsfVijx.png)
wtb E-Beige for the true battlestation aesthetics tbh
Proto type is being cerakoted sandstorm beige as we speak!
Thought about offering it but you would be surprised to find out how many people don't like that aged look.
Maybe Next Run with E-White.
Round 2 is mainly set to be beige and polycarbonate focused.Music to my ears. I know it's a little early, but would you consider staggering the PC and and beige GB times to give people a chance to pick up one of both if they're interested?
Round 1 GB Details coming Next Week!
Round 2 is mainly set to be beige and polycarbonate focused.But I want E white
Round 1 GB Details coming Next Week!
Round 2 is mainly set to be beige and polycarbonate focused.Music to my ears. I know it's a little early, but would you consider staggering the PC and and beige GB times to give people a chance to pick up one of both if they're interested?
Round 1 GB Details coming Next Week!
Oops. I meant will you have different GB times so people could try to get into both GBs if they wanted?Round 2 is mainly set to be beige and polycarbonate focused.Music to my ears. I know it's a little early, but would you consider staggering the PC and and beige GB times to give people a chance to pick up one of both if they're interested?
Round 1 GB Details coming Next Week!
Staggered PCB will be available for this round and the next one.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/590363345828446276/644383252055851009/The_Avenue-Keyboard-Staggered_Render.png)
And all plates, knobs and pcbs will be available for purchase as extras during the GB.
Also been working on something a little different on the side.
A cheaper Bent Steel variant of The Ave.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pX1dsRJ.png)
Im hoping to get around to testing the design/fabrication here in the near future.
Any word on the GB?I was randomly on The_Royal's site and saw The Ave. GB starting on the 27th? Here's the link to what I saw. https://kingly-keys.xyz/collections/coming-soon/products/gb-the-ave-keyboard-kit?variant=31269192761447
Aw heck, if that's how yellow is happening it looks like I won't have the funds in time.Any word on the GB?I was randomly on The_Royal's site and saw The Ave. GB starting on the 27th? Here's the link to what I saw. https://kingly-keys.xyz/collections/coming-soon/products/gb-the-ave-keyboard-kit?variant=31269192761447
Aw heck, if that's how yellow is happening it looks like I won't have the funds in time.Any word on the GB?I was randomly on The_Royal's site and saw The Ave. GB starting on the 27th? Here's the link to what I saw. https://kingly-keys.xyz/collections/coming-soon/products/gb-the-ave-keyboard-kit?variant=31269192761447
Seems like it.Aw heck, if that's how yellow is happening it looks like I won't have the funds in time.Any word on the GB?I was randomly on The_Royal's site and saw The Ave. GB starting on the 27th? Here's the link to what I saw. https://kingly-keys.xyz/collections/coming-soon/products/gb-the-ave-keyboard-kit?variant=31269192761447
Does this mean part one and two are happening at the same time?
Webpage shows: "Delayed Until Early Dec, 2019"Seems like it.Aw heck, if that's how yellow is happening it looks like I won't have the funds in time.Any word on the GB?I was randomly on The_Royal's site and saw The Ave. GB starting on the 27th? Here's the link to what I saw. https://kingly-keys.xyz/collections/coming-soon/products/gb-the-ave-keyboard-kit?variant=31269192761447
Does this mean part one and two are happening at the same time?
It did indeed say the 27th. Royal must have changed it some time today.Webpage shows: "Delayed Until Early Dec, 2019"Seems like it.Aw heck, if that's how yellow is happening it looks like I won't have the funds in time.Any word on the GB?I was randomly on The_Royal's site and saw The Ave. GB starting on the 27th? Here's the link to what I saw. https://kingly-keys.xyz/collections/coming-soon/products/gb-the-ave-keyboard-kit?variant=31269192761447
Does this mean part one and two are happening at the same time?
I don't see anything about the 27th? Was it changed since you last looked?
Ahh good - wanted to make sure I wasn't missing somethingIt did indeed say the 27th. Royal must have changed it some time today.Webpage shows: "Delayed Until Early Dec, 2019"Seems like it.Aw heck, if that's how yellow is happening it looks like I won't have the funds in time.Any word on the GB?I was randomly on The_Royal's site and saw The Ave. GB starting on the 27th? Here's the link to what I saw. https://kingly-keys.xyz/collections/coming-soon/products/gb-the-ave-keyboard-kit?variant=31269192761447
Does this mean part one and two are happening at the same time?
I don't see anything about the 27th? Was it changed since you last looked?
It was changed indeed. Royal told about the delay on discord but forgot to update the webpage.Thanks for the update. It said the 27th when I sent that link lol. Could you link the discord? I couldn't find it in this thread.