Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 25 July 2016, 17:19:09
(http://kbd4u.co.kr/web/product/big/kbd4u_63.jpg)
ORDER HERE (https://goo.gl/forms/7lwKXUTGXoXLqBdF2) <---- Click here to order
Included in this set:
Aluminium top housing (Aluminum 6061) in black or silver
Bottom housing (7 degree angle)
MX Reinforcement Plate (stainless steel or aluminum)
PCB presoldered (resistors, diodes, smd leds, etc, but not switches)
Fixing bolts and rubber pads
Info:
Limit of 30 sets
Case has an angle of 7 degrees for the aluminum bottom
Full keymapping
Macro settings
Supports MX switches
Full LED and RGB SMD LED compatible.
Switches and stabilizers are not included (Requires Cherry PCB stabilizers)
Supports centred caps lock or stepped caps lock.
More information and pictures on this :
http://duck0113.tistory.com/130
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Price: $360
Shipping
Shipping will be from South Korea with EMS. Shipping cost will depend on your location. Each set weighs about (TBD) kg with packaging. Click here to check your zone (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1010601) and Click here to check their prices in Korean Won (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300)
Notes
- Deadline for order is August 1, 2016.
- Order ONLY if you can pay the invoice by the deadline (August 19, 2016)
- There will be no extras for sale after this group buy is closed, so please put your order in before it's too late ;)
- I will send invoices through Paypal to everyone, so you need a verified Paypal account to receive and pay. Also please check the information carefully before submitting your order. There will be Paypal fees added to the price.
- If you want to make changes to your order, please send me a PM.
- I can only guarantee damages for 7 days from the day you receive the items.
ORDER HERE (https://goo.gl/forms/7lwKXUTGXoXLqBdF2) <---- Click here to order
Check your order here: (I update this manually)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bZr5ca8P6Cbnli7XTZ7WHSkcUaKtJxZslLyAnPFiFbY/pubhtml?gid=1360862044&single=true
Post by: duzeyao on Mon, 25 July 2016, 23:54:57
Post by: Shados on Tue, 26 July 2016, 00:01:09
Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 26 July 2016, 00:03:56
Thanks elton!
Post by: popkorn62 on Tue, 26 July 2016, 00:04:45
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 26 July 2016, 00:34:13
Another two questions, will it be possible to get an acrylic plate like in the pictures? And second question, will any plate support switch top removal?
Post by: keyit on Tue, 26 July 2016, 00:47:05
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 26 July 2016, 02:42:20
Post by: Butter on Tue, 26 July 2016, 03:52:50
Post by: xninetynine on Tue, 26 July 2016, 04:08:53
My wife is literally going to murder me. Right after I get my Octagon too. Bah! **SIGH** Ordered...
In the same boat. Goodness RIP wallet and RIP life. Ordered.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 26 July 2016, 04:26:26
Post by: HannahPeach on Tue, 26 July 2016, 07:19:35
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:02:22
Post by: E3E on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:03:23
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 26 July 2016, 09:11:21
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Post by: Waateva on Tue, 26 July 2016, 10:33:37
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 26 July 2016, 10:33:54
Post by: SJHL on Tue, 26 July 2016, 10:47:44
Post by: Weiss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 11:28:09
If I don't make it though, my wallet will thank me.
Wait, what size is the spacebar for HHKB layout? Just judging from the layouts shown, it kinda looked like it was 6.25u, but I know most HHKB layout boards have the spacebar as 7u or 6u sometimes.
Post by: blighty on Tue, 26 July 2016, 11:43:30
Post by: xondat on Tue, 26 July 2016, 11:50:04
Might as well be a Duck board for my first full sized.(http://cfile30.uf.tistory.com/image/246A7D4956EAA5EA0182BE)
If I don't make it though, my wallet will thank me.
Wait, what size is the spacebar for HHKB layout? Just judging from the layouts shown, it kinda looked like it was 6.25u, but I know most HHKB layout boards have the spacebar as 7u or 6u sometimes.
It's either.
Post by: HappyCatFish on Tue, 26 July 2016, 11:56:03
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Post by: m1kehonch0 on Tue, 26 July 2016, 12:13:49
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 26 July 2016, 12:44:03
Post by: Weiss on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:14:56
Might as well be a Duck board for my first full sized.
If I don't make it though, my wallet will thank me.
Wait, what size is the spacebar for HHKB layout? Just judging from the layouts shown, it kinda looked like it was 6.25u, but I know most HHKB layout boards have the spacebar as 7u or 6u sometimes.
It's either.
Ah okay, thanks!
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:28:37
I think I might have drunkenly put in for this last night. If I did, and made it on, please take me off the list. There seems to be alot more people who would like this more than myself.
Dont worry man! I'll un-drunkenly take that spot if i can.
Post by: hifimanz on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:29:46
There goes the rest of my tax return. Way too gorgeous of a keyboard to turn down.
If you get a tax return every year that means you're over paying the government throughout the year and they are making money off your over payment via interest. What you're looking for is to pay the least amount of taxes while trying to avoid having to pay more than 100.00 and/or get 100.00 back on your return. That way you have a chance to enjoy more money throughout the year and invest in whatever you want instead of letting the government get rich off you and giving you a false sense of happiness during tax return time =)
Cheers
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:30:50
There goes the rest of my tax return. Way too gorgeous of a keyboard to turn down.
If you get a tax return every year that means you're over paying the government throughout the year and they are making money off your over payment via interest. What you're looking for is to pay the least amount of taxes while trying to avoid having to pay more than 100.00 and/or get 100.00 back on your return. That way you have a chance to enjoy more money throughout the year and invest in whatever you want instead of letting the government get rich off you and giving you a false sense of happiness during tax return time =)
Cheers
Dave Ramsey? Is that you?
Post by: hifimanz on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:36:07
There goes the rest of my tax return. Way too gorgeous of a keyboard to turn down.
If you get a tax return every year that means you're over paying the government throughout the year and they are making money off your over payment via interest. What you're looking for is to pay the least amount of taxes while trying to avoid having to pay more than 100.00 and/or get 100.00 back on your return. That way you have a chance to enjoy more money throughout the year and invest in whatever you want instead of letting the government get rich off you and giving you a false sense of happiness during tax return time =)
Cheers
Dave Ramsey? Is that you?
Nope just a fellow keyboard lover trying to help other keyboard lovers =D
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:39:44
Just hope that Duck opens up the buy to another set of 30.
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 26 July 2016, 13:41:59
If the cutoff is at 30 then you guys are all rip.
Just hope that Duck opens up the buy to another set of 30.
Dont make me cry =(
Post by: TTR on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:35:14
Post by: Waateva on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:36:24
There goes the rest of my tax return. Way too gorgeous of a keyboard to turn down.
If you get a tax return every year that means you're over paying the government throughout the year and they are making money off your over payment via interest. What you're looking for is to pay the least amount of taxes while trying to avoid having to pay more than 100.00 and/or get 100.00 back on your return. That way you have a chance to enjoy more money throughout the year and invest in whatever you want instead of letting the government get rich off you and giving you a false sense of happiness during tax return time =)
Cheers
I work at a tax and accounting office so I hear this a lot, but to be honest it depends a ton on the individual and what they are planning on do with that money in the mean time. If you're getting back less than $1000, that is probably around $40 extra in your paycheck assuming you're paid bi-weekly and a lot of people do not have the financial austerity to actually put that money away, rather they just spend it on an extra dinner date, night at the movies, an online purchase, or something else. Add to that interest rates being awful right now (less than 1% from most banks and CUs) and your $1000 you put away studiously throughout the year earned an extra $10, congrats.
Now if the amount of the refund is a quite a bit higher ($5000+) I will recommend people change withholding so that they get more back through the year, but some people like to treat it as a savings account as it's somewhere that they can't touch it. If that is the case, more power to them, as it's their money and they know themselves better than anyone else and if they know they need to save their money that way I'm just glad they recognize it.
Post by: mbrown559 on Tue, 26 July 2016, 14:47:47
My wife is literally going to murder me. Right after I get my Octagon too. Bah! **SIGH** Ordered...
If your wife does try and murder you, I will make sure that Octagon goes to good use ;-P.
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:08:03
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:25:37
So help me out here, how do we know if we made it in the buy? My fingers are crossed!
As soon as elton is done with creating the order overview spreadsheet you can check it there.
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 26 July 2016, 15:51:40
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 26 July 2016, 17:33:45
Order placed, would I have the luck to own the first Korea custom keyboard!Once you go Korean, you never go back.
Post by: boo on Tue, 26 July 2016, 18:07:46
I am Korean and I approve of this message :thumb:Order placed, would I have the luck to own the first Korea custom keyboard!Once you go Korean, you never go back.
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Post by: Shados on Tue, 26 July 2016, 18:16:44
There goes the rest of my tax return. Way too gorgeous of a keyboard to turn down.
If you get a tax return every year that means you're over paying the government throughout the year and they are making money off your over payment via interest. What you're looking for is to pay the least amount of taxes while trying to avoid having to pay more than 100.00 and/or get 100.00 back on your return. That way you have a chance to enjoy more money throughout the year and invest in whatever you want instead of letting the government get rich off you and giving you a false sense of happiness during tax return time =)
Cheers
I'm aware of how tax works, but thanks. I'm only getting a significant return this year because I only worked for the last few months of the fiscal year, and instalments are calculated by default based on assumption of working the full year. I could have varied my instalment rate and then changed it back after the end of the year, but that's a PITA given it's only a few months.
In a normal year I get maybe a few hundred in returns, as I don't have that many deductions to apply. Again, I could vary the instalments to account for this relatively accurately, but it's a small enough amount to not really be worth the effort.
Post by: Proyoyo on Tue, 26 July 2016, 19:26:00
Post by: blighty on Tue, 26 July 2016, 20:17:12
I think I might have drunkenly put in for this last night. If I did, and made it on, please take me off the list. There seems to be alot more people who would like this more than myself.
Dont worry man! I'll un-drunkenly take that spot if i can.
Well, when i put in for it, I figured, "why not get another custom to build? I'll have something to look forward to putting together." Of course, after being built, it would probably just end up sitting on a shelf, since I like having the f-row . With all the excitement people are having, hoping to get in, I'd rather let someone buy and build it who would actually appreciate having the board and enjoy using it, compared to me building it and letting it collect dust (just like my LSv2 and Orion V2 boards).
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 26 July 2016, 20:52:02
It's always sad to hears that an orion is collecting dustI think I might have drunkenly put in for this last night. If I did, and made it on, please take me off the list. There seems to be alot more people who would like this more than myself.
Dont worry man! I'll un-drunkenly take that spot if i can.
Well, when i put in for it, I figured, "why not get another custom to build? I'll have something to look forward to putting together." Of course, after being built, it would probably just end up sitting on a shelf, since I like having the f-row . With all the excitement people are having, hoping to get in, I'd rather let someone buy and build it who would actually appreciate having the board and enjoy using it, compared to me building it and letting it collect dust (just like my LSv2 and Orion V2 boards).
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Post by: brighenne on Tue, 26 July 2016, 21:25:29
It's always sad to hears that an orion is collecting dustI think I might have drunkenly put in for this last night. If I did, and made it on, please take me off the list. There seems to be alot more people who would like this more than myself.
Dont worry man! I'll un-drunkenly take that spot if i can.
Well, when i put in for it, I figured, "why not get another custom to build? I'll have something to look forward to putting together." Of course, after being built, it would probably just end up sitting on a shelf, since I like having the f-row . With all the excitement people are having, hoping to get in, I'd rather let someone buy and build it who would actually appreciate having the board and enjoy using it, compared to me building it and letting it collect dust (just like my LSv2 and Orion V2 boards).
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Agreed, I will gladly take either one into my loving home.
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 26 July 2016, 21:32:02
I don't have time to do anything tonight. Just got home so I'll do the spreadsheets tomorrow night. What I can say from looking at the spreadsheet is that it's around 60 sets.
I'm told I can get 2 batches of 30sets. I'll try to start invoicing over the weekend.
Cheers
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 26 July 2016, 23:07:58
Hey guys.
I don't have time to do anything tonight. Just got home so I'll do the spreadsheets tomorrow night. What I can say from looking at the spreadsheet is that it's around 60 sets.
I'm told I can get 2 batches of 30sets. I'll try to start invoicing over the weekend.
Cheers
Awww yeeee
More love for everyone
Post by: Floody on Tue, 26 July 2016, 23:15:53
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 27 July 2016, 02:56:32
What did you guys spring for? Standard or HHKB style?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 27 July 2016, 03:29:07
What did you guys spring for? Standard or HHKB style?
Standard. While I will use a mostly HHKB-esque layout (split backspace and right shift) I am not a fan of the bottom row, I just don't see any advantage of leaving out the corners.
Post by: Shados on Wed, 27 July 2016, 03:31:43
What did you guys spring for? Standard or HHKB style?
Standard. While I will use a mostly HHKB-esque layout (split backspace and right shift) I am not a fan of the bottom row, I just don't see any advantage of leaving out the corners.
I'll be doing something similar. I have way too many global keybinds on win + alt + alpha keys for a full HHKB layout to be usable (useful key combination as it is unlikely to collide with any given application's default binds).
Post by: boo on Wed, 27 July 2016, 12:51:06
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Post by: RELLIK on Wed, 27 July 2016, 13:08:09
Post by: ctrlX on Thu, 28 July 2016, 13:32:48
Could we please get to know what will happen with the Lightsaver GB? If I've understood correctly, it got pulled back in favour of Black Bird. Cheers!
Post by: TTR on Thu, 28 July 2016, 19:34:34
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 29 July 2016, 01:57:14
Why list where are you?
Link draws a blank in first post.
Elton brings treasures.
Thank you, thank you very much.
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 29 July 2016, 12:50:04
Post by: TTR on Fri, 29 July 2016, 21:08:18
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 02:03:15
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 30 July 2016, 02:06:50
While we are waiting does anyone know if any of the plates supports switch top removal?
Duck boards typically don't support it, so high chance of "No"
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 03:54:15
While we are waiting does anyone know if any of the plates supports switch top removal?
Duck boards typically don't support it, so high chance of "No"
Not so good for me, considering I like to wear in my switches a bit before lubing them. Ah well, I'm definitely not going to rush this one, so I can take my time and get a plate made after it arrives.
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 07:29:07
Here is the public spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bZr5ca8P6Cbnli7XTZ7WHSkcUaKtJxZslLyAnPFiFbY/pubhtml?gid=1360862044&single=true
I added the option of ordering extra PCB + plate. If you want that just PM me and I'll add it to the order. Adding that option now on the form will just mess up the google doc.
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 07:32:54
Hey allThanks, Elton! Im looking forward to it!
Here is the public spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bZr5ca8P6Cbnli7XTZ7WHSkcUaKtJxZslLyAnPFiFbY/pubhtml?gid=1360862044&single=true
I added the option of ordering extra PCB + plate. If you want that just PM me and I'll add it to the order. Adding that option now on the form will just mess up the google doc.
Question: any chance in modifying the order slightly? Just want to change the plate from alum to SS.
Thanks again for putting this together.
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Post by: DALExSNAIL on Sat, 30 July 2016, 07:34:28
Post by: Hexterdude on Sat, 30 July 2016, 10:53:33
Post by: Chedda7 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 11:10:41
Hey all
Here is the public spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bZr5ca8P6Cbnli7XTZ7WHSkcUaKtJxZslLyAnPFiFbY/pubhtml?gid=1360862044&single=true
I added the option of ordering extra PCB + plate. If you want that just PM me and I'll add it to the order. Adding that option now on the form will just mess up the google doc.
Sweet. What is the price for the extra PCB + plate?
Post by: eat_the_food on Sat, 30 July 2016, 11:36:47
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 30 July 2016, 11:59:27
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 15:55:16
The PCB+Plate extra is $80
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 16:26:30
Post by: seblove on Sat, 30 July 2016, 17:14:20
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 30 July 2016, 17:44:19
Also, what's the motivation for people to buy an extra plate and pcb on a super unique layout like this? Do you build them both and swap out every now and again to keep things fresh or keep it around unbuilt in case something goes wrong with the other parts?
If I get such an expensive board I don't want to **** up by putting on switches I don't like at the end. If I order an extra PCB I have 2 options. I can either go with a PCB mounted approach first and have some freedom to play around, or I just do a full assembly and if I happen to dislike my choice at the end and have to desolder the switches I have a backup in case something goes wrong. I'm currently typing this with a board on which I desoldered the switches at least 3-4 times and everything still works, but getting a replacement for a Korean custom in such a unique layout after this GB should be impossible, better safe then sorry. If I choose route 2 and end up liking the switches I can still build my own case for the other PCB :)
Post by: E3E on Sat, 30 July 2016, 18:24:06
Also, what's the motivation for people to buy an extra plate and pcb on a super unique layout like this? Do you build them both and swap out every now and again to keep things fresh or keep it around unbuilt in case something goes wrong with the other parts?
If I get such an expensive board I don't want to **** up by putting on switches I don't like at the end. If I order an extra PCB I have 2 options. I can either go with a PCB mounted approach first and have some freedom to play around, or I just do a full assembly and if I happen to dislike my choice at the end and have to desolder the switches I have a backup in case something goes wrong. I'm currently typing this with a board on which I desoldered the switches at least 3-4 times and everything still works, but getting a replacement for a Korean custom in such a unique layout after this GB should be impossible, better safe then sorry. If I choose route 2 and end up liking the switches I can still build my own case for the other PCB :)
Yeah, I can vibe with this.
This is a good reason for a design that facilitates switch opening. Not a convention you ever see with Duck. I know some say that it's an issue of stability, but I'm not so sure. Not a problem for those who have pretty well-defined preferences though. Just that, if you're curious about using a new switch for a build, a switch you don't have much experience with, then doing it on something like this isn't a good idea.
Guess it's a better idea to buy a test board for those switches first.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sat, 30 July 2016, 22:52:55
Post by: Pemdas on Sat, 30 July 2016, 23:50:23
Also, what's the motivation for people to buy an extra plate and pcb on a super unique layout like this? Do you build them both and swap out every now and again to keep things fresh or keep it around unbuilt in case something goes wrong with the other parts?
If I get such an expensive board I don't want to **** up by putting on switches I don't like at the end. If I order an extra PCB I have 2 options. I can either go with a PCB mounted approach first and have some freedom to play around, or I just do a full assembly and if I happen to dislike my choice at the end and have to desolder the switches I have a backup in case something goes wrong. I'm currently typing this with a board on which I desoldered the switches at least 3-4 times and everything still works, but getting a replacement for a Korean custom in such a unique layout after this GB should be impossible, better safe then sorry. If I choose route 2 and end up liking the switches I can still build my own case for the other PCB :)
:eek: teach me your ways! I am so bad at desoldering. I pretty much lift pads everytime. And I even have a hakko desoldering iron to work with haha
I really want to swap my orion over to some linears but am way to scared too desolder my pcb.
With that said I'm definitely going to be ordering an extra pcb and plate. Better safe than sorry :p
Post by: duzeyao on Sun, 31 July 2016, 22:41:23
Also, what's the motivation for people to buy an extra plate and pcb on a super unique layout like this? Do you build them both and swap out every now and again to keep things fresh or keep it around unbuilt in case something goes wrong with the other parts?
If I get such an expensive board I don't want to **** up by putting on switches I don't like at the end. If I order an extra PCB I have 2 options. I can either go with a PCB mounted approach first and have some freedom to play around, or I just do a full assembly and if I happen to dislike my choice at the end and have to desolder the switches I have a backup in case something goes wrong. I'm currently typing this with a board on which I desoldered the switches at least 3-4 times and everything still works, but getting a replacement for a Korean custom in such a unique layout after this GB should be impossible, better safe then sorry. If I choose route 2 and end up liking the switches I can still build my own case for the other PCB :)
:eek: teach me your ways! I am so bad at desoldering. I pretty much lift pads everytime. And I even have a hakko desoldering iron to work with haha
I really want to swap my orion over to some linears but am way to scared too desolder my pcb.
With that said I'm definitely going to be ordering an extra pcb and plate. Better safe than sorry :p
Don't do that. Orion's pcb is super fragile.
Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 31 July 2016, 22:51:44
Don't do that. Orion's pcb is super fragile.
Ya I'm way too scared to actually consider doing it. But it's good to dream :p
Post by: E3E on Sun, 31 July 2016, 23:06:33
Don't do that. Orion's pcb is super fragile.
Ya I'm way too scared to actually consider doing it. But it's good to dream :p
You just need a gentle touch, really. Duck's PCBs have very unreliable pads that like to lift, but as long as you aren't to heavy-handed with the desoldering iron, you should be okay. I keep mine at 350 C and it works like a charm. I had to desolder switches for one Eagle PCB for my hotswappable Duck Eagle projects, and I didn't lift a pad.
Admittedly, I was surprised myself. :P
I think you should be just fine desoldering your Orion once, man. It shouldn't hurt anything as long as you're careful.
Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 31 July 2016, 23:56:39
You just need a gentle touch, really. Duck's PCBs have very unreliable pads that like to lift, but as long as you aren't to heavy-handed with the desoldering iron, you should be okay. I keep mine at 350 C and it works like a charm. I had to desolder switches for one Eagle PCB for my hotswappable Duck Eagle projects, and I didn't lift a pad.
Admittedly, I was surprised myself. :P
I think you should be just fine desoldering your Orion once, man. It shouldn't hurt anything as long as you're careful.
That's impressive! I had to fix two switches on my octagon build and ended up lifting 3 pads.... I don't know why I can't use my hakko effectively :(
I've learned to live with the zealios. They're not bad by any means and its always nice to have some variety in the collection. And Ive got my skcl green pcb I can use if I really want some linear action on the orion :p
And just to keep this slightly on topic. This is the slowest filling duck buy I've been a part of! I submitted my form way late and still got a spot hooray! Must be the unique layout.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 01 August 2016, 01:50:19
This is the slowest filling duck buy I've been a part of! I submitted my form way late and still got a spot hooray! Must be the unique layout.
Why are GH'rs such sticks in the mud? We need to embrace the unique!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 01 August 2016, 03:14:30
Why are GH'rs such sticks in the mud? We need to embrace the unique!
NOOOOOO, we need MOAR TKL's, the more genereic the better. All of them should support neither backlighting nor RGB underglow. Of course all of them should be WKL layout and colored either grey or black. Another thing that we also ABSOLUTELY need is more 60% PCB's that all have the same features and basically only differ in the pinout on the controller and the way the traces are placed. /s
But now back on a serious note. It was pretty obvious that this will be Duck's least popular board, just look at the TK78, which also has a similarly unique layout and had a really great price, in the end there were less than half the orders than there are here. I really feel like we need more unique stuff, but when no one want's to buy that it's just not worth it to spend the time on it. I won't be surprised if this here board never runs again, which is also why I'm in, it's just too unique to let it go.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 01 August 2016, 03:38:16
I know man. It's crazy. I had a CPSQ that I wanted to sell to buy this and I built it as a split spacebar. I priced it WAY under market value, I mean it was a steal. Just with the split spacebar alone, people were all "oh you're just gonna have to find the right buyer" and it took a few days to sell where as I thought it would be gone in hours at the price I had it listed... It's really lame if you ask me. I love the unusual stuff... I mean what's the point of owning so many keyboards if they all do/look/feel/act the same?!
Why are GH'rs such sticks in the mud? We need to embrace the unique!
NOOOOOO, we need MOAR TKL's, the more genereic the better. All of them should support neither backlighting nor RGB underglow. Of course all of them should be WKL layout and colored either grey or black. Another thing that we also ABSOLUTELY need is more 60% PCB's that all have the same features and basically only differ in the pinout on the controller and the way the traces are placed. /s
But now back on a serious note. It was pretty obvious that this will be Duck's least popular board, just look at the TK78, which also has a similarly unique layout and had a really great price, in the end there were less than half the orders than there are here. I really feel like we need more unique stuff, but when no one want's to buy that it's just not worth it to spend the time on it. I won't be surprised if this here board never runs again, which is also why I'm in, it's just too unique to let it go.
Post by: Shados on Tue, 02 August 2016, 03:38:05
Post by: maximm on Tue, 02 August 2016, 05:19:09
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 August 2016, 10:34:23
Do you recommend Ss plate for linear only?That's what most people say/do.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:37:49
Do you recommend Ss plate for linear only?That's what most people say/do.
Could you elaborate a bit more? If I'm ordering some plates cut for tactile or clicky switches, would it be better to get ally plates then? Is it because of noise with steel plates?
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 02 August 2016, 13:44:32
That said, I like steel plates on tactile switches too.
Post by: breitling on Tue, 02 August 2016, 14:37:28
Do you recommend Ss plate for linear only?That's what most people say/do.
Could you elaborate a bit more? If I'm ordering some plates cut for tactile or clicky switches, would it be better to get ally plates then? Is it because of noise with steel plates?
the majority of mass market keyboards out there like filco, das, and wasd all have steel plates so there isnt anything inherently wrong with using steel plates with tactile or clicky switches... its just preference. my old das ultimate 3 with mx browns feels great. i usually get steel plates with customs when available because they are less common with custom boards. most of my customs are alu.
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 14:48:47
Post by: maximm on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:08:57
I'm going to stick with SS even for tactile switches as it feels more special and i like the weight.
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 18:18:38
So when are the invoices being sent?
I'll try to get at least 30 out by tonight
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 02 August 2016, 18:36:21
Do you recommend Ss plate for linear only?That's what most people say/do.
Could you elaborate a bit more? If I'm ordering some plates cut for tactile or clicky switches, would it be better to get ally plates then? Is it because of noise with steel plates?
the majority of mass market keyboards out there like filco, das, and wasd all have steel plates so there isnt anything inherently wrong with using steel plates with tactile or clicky switches... its just preference. my old das ultimate 3 with mx browns feels great. i usually get steel plates with customs when available because they are less common with custom boards. most of my customs are alu.
I see... The boards I have all have steel plates, and I haven't found too much wrong with them.
Post by: Hexterdude on Tue, 02 August 2016, 19:23:45
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Post by: Shados on Tue, 02 August 2016, 19:38:10
Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 02 August 2016, 19:40:14
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 02 August 2016, 19:40:33
Post by: Butter on Tue, 02 August 2016, 19:49:39
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 02 August 2016, 20:35:03
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 20:57:42
Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized? :)
Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 21:21:02
I second this!Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized? :)
Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.
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Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 02 August 2016, 21:29:51
I second this!Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized? :)
Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.
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By all means, ask, but most places won't do it. Anodizing is done as part of the finishing process, so pulling some out of the workflow is extra labor. The other option is to not finish at all after machining. That's not usually done either because pieces directly out of machining do not look good. And no matter how many assurances you have from a client that "I know the risks, I don't care how it comes out" inevitably someone will balk and say that it wasn't what they expected/paid for.
Post by: breitling on Tue, 02 August 2016, 23:14:08
Post by: boo on Tue, 02 August 2016, 23:18:43
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 02 August 2016, 23:30:30
Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum
Short answer: no.
Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process. Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.
Post by: boo on Tue, 02 August 2016, 23:50:16
Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum
Short answer: no.
Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process. Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.
Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.
Post by: Spopepro on Wed, 03 August 2016, 01:02:54
Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum
Short answer: no.
Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process. Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.
Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.
I have no authoritative knowledge of it, but I strongly suspect keyboards engineered to meet a retail price point* will have mild steel plates that are punched and coated. I find it hard to believe anyone would bother putting a nice stainless plate in a plastic case. It is still troubling that you would have rust spots, which I would not expect unless the keyboard was a spill victim, you live on a boat, the surface was damaged, or there was a manufacturing defect.
*the nice way to say "cheap"
Post by: boo on Wed, 03 August 2016, 01:43:20
Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum
Short answer: no.
Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process. Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.
Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.
I have no authoritative knowledge of it, but I strongly suspect keyboards engineered to meet a retail price point* will have mild steel plates that are punched and coated. I find it hard to believe anyone would bother putting a nice stainless plate in a plastic case. It is still troubling that you would have rust spots, which I would not expect unless the keyboard was a spill victim, you live on a boat, the surface was damaged, or there was a manufacturing defect.
*the nice way to say "cheap"
Well I live in a dry CA weather here but I do think that the plate is of lower inferior quality in order for the company to have some margins. It isn't the case with Duck tho.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 03 August 2016, 03:50:46
Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized? :)Duck has long been known for the quality of his anodized cases... Some might even say they're perfect. This has got to be a first.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 04:29:31
Post by: breitling on Wed, 03 August 2016, 07:55:21
Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum
Short answer: no.
Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process. Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.
Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.
I have no authoritative knowledge of it, but I strongly suspect keyboards engineered to meet a retail price point* will have mild steel plates that are punched and coated. I find it hard to believe anyone would bother putting a nice stainless plate in a plastic case. It is still troubling that you would have rust spots, which I would not expect unless the keyboard was a spill victim, you live on a boat, the surface was damaged, or there was a manufacturing defect.
*the nice way to say "cheap"
Well I live in a dry CA weather here but I do think that the plate is of lower inferior quality in order for the company to have some margins. It isn't the case with Duck tho.
yes, the das plates are not stainless steel, which is why they oxidize over time. they are coated in black in order to reduce it, but it still happens.
Post by: Waateva on Wed, 03 August 2016, 08:53:00
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 09:02:35
Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized? :)
Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.
Also interested in the answer to this one.
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 09:05:00
Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized? :)
Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.
Also interested in the answer to this one.
Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized? :)Duck has long been known for the quality of his anodized cases... Some might even say they're perfect. This has got to be a first.
If all you want is a solid dust color, sure. But there is a lot of cool stuff you can do with anodizing beyond that. Plus, a lot of folks don't like black or silver.
edit- oops meant to edit not quote..
Post by: duzeyao on Wed, 03 August 2016, 09:32:58
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 03 August 2016, 10:12:37
Paid, definitely my most expensive KB related purchase ever.Get what you pay for... You're gonna love it!
Post by: maximm on Wed, 03 August 2016, 16:47:28
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 19:20:01
I'll invoice the rest tonight. If you have any changes, please tell me before paying the invoice!
Post by: tuco on Wed, 03 August 2016, 20:11:42
Post by: TTR on Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:15:00
Post by: baotung on Wed, 03 August 2016, 22:25:38
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 22:55:15
Post by: Chedda7 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 22:56:21
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 04 August 2016, 09:45:29
So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Thu, 04 August 2016, 09:46:27
Paid!I'm planning either Skidata+ or Skeletor.
So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?
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Post by: jal on Thu, 04 August 2016, 10:02:07
Caps-wise, I have the MD carbons coming, which will at least do a modeling session on the board. But I'm thinking black on blacks (I ordered the board in all black) are going to be appropriate - this thing just screams low-profile monochrome. At least to the extent that screams can be low-profile.
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 04 August 2016, 10:04:51
Paid.
Caps-wise, I have the MD carbons coming, which will at least do a modeling session on the board. But I'm thinking black on blacks (I ordered the board in all black) are going to be appropriate - this thing just screams low-profile monochrome. At least to the extent that screams can be low-profile.
Completely agree. I'm thinking either all white or all black round 6, or a mix of white and black. Too bad I blew it and didn't order a numpad.
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 04 August 2016, 11:01:24
Paid!
So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?
SKIDATA+ is the current plan, but that is always subject to change.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 04 August 2016, 11:49:27
Paid!
So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?
WoB is my favorite. So either that, or Dolch.
Post by: wodan on Thu, 04 August 2016, 11:53:40
Maybe some Cherry Dyesubs until that arrives. Aiming for a classic look here.
Post by: Hexterdude on Thu, 04 August 2016, 14:04:34
Paid!
So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?
Gonna rock the skull squadron dsa on it
Post by: alveeno on Thu, 04 August 2016, 14:23:36
Post by: maximm on Thu, 04 August 2016, 15:24:32
The Black/Silver looks so good without the RGB lightning, but the black/black looks best with it. How can it be so hard to decide!
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 04 August 2016, 15:42:40
Paid. Thank you, elton. Just curious about the estimated shipping time for batch 2...It's about a month after the 1st batch is shipped.
Post by: Hexterdude on Thu, 04 August 2016, 15:56:02
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Thu, 04 August 2016, 17:13:30
Thanks again, Elton, for making this happen. I imagine running something like this takes a great deal of personal time, and I appreciate that. Im geeked to get my first "real" custom board!
Post by: boo on Thu, 04 August 2016, 17:29:25
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 04 August 2016, 18:00:10
I'm planning to make a board sleeve for it and hoping it will be ready before this baby come :)
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 04 August 2016, 20:52:29
Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 04 August 2016, 22:17:24
Thank you Elton and Duck!
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 04 August 2016, 23:02:09
Hi Elton, is there any chance I/we can get the dimension of the board?
I'm planning to make a board sleeve for it and hoping it will be ready before this baby come :)
This.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 05 August 2016, 11:15:10
Post by: maximm on Fri, 05 August 2016, 14:35:31
And to those requesting an unanodized case: http://duck0113.tistory.com/90
Its already been made before
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 05 August 2016, 15:00:12
What happened to the acrylic plate @elton5354? Will it be made?
He told me in a PM that there won't be acrylic plates (he said he also wished they were available).
In case anyone wants to know this: it is also not possible to add only a PCB, just a combo of plate and PCB
Post by: maximm on Fri, 05 August 2016, 15:05:16
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 05 August 2016, 15:16:07
Why wont there be acrylic plates? Could we get WKL or SPRiT to help us run a GB for them?
I doubt there will be enough people interested to justify a GB for it...
I'm still thinking about getting one made for myself (depends on how I like the Acrylic plate I get made for my TK78), if anyone is interested in buying one (I won't make profit from it) PM me, if I do end up doing it I'll PM you back with details, just don't expect anything before I had the board for a few days, I'd have to design them basically from scratch.
Post by: maximm on Fri, 05 August 2016, 15:28:24
Why wont there be acrylic plates? Could we get WKL or SPRiT to help us run a GB for them?
I doubt there will be enough people interested to justify a GB for it...
I'm still thinking about getting one made for myself (depends on how I like the Acrylic plate I get made for my TK78), if anyone is interested in buying one (I won't make profit from it) PM me, if I do end up doing it I'll PM you back with details, just don't expect anything before I had the board for a few days, I'd have to design them basically from scratch.
Do we really need that many for a GB? Plates for WKL are cut custom on order, should be possible to order just a few.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 05 August 2016, 15:35:12
Do we really need that many for a GB? Plates for WKL are cut custom on order, should be possible to order just a few.
For me a GB means that there will either be cost savings or it will be necessary to hit a certain MOQ to even be able to produce it... if it is a very small custom order (I doubt we'd even hit two digits here) it's probably hardly a difference in per-unit price compared to just ordering one of them, so it is just a small custom order, but not a GB.
Post by: maximm on Fri, 05 August 2016, 15:49:52
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 05 August 2016, 17:43:33
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 05 August 2016, 17:48:50
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 05 August 2016, 19:08:04
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 05 August 2016, 20:10:47
When will the Estimated ship date be for the second batch?
About a month after the 1st batch. 1st batch will be ready in about a month's time
Hi Elton, is there any chance I/we can get the dimension of the board?
I'm planning to make a board sleeve for it and hoping it will be ready before this baby come :)
It is 401.6 x 114.2 x 34.5 (mm)
Post by: ryptide11 on Sat, 06 August 2016, 07:27:00
Post by: Pemdas on Sat, 06 August 2016, 16:34:25
When will the Estimated ship date be for the second batch?
About a month after the 1st batch. 1st batch will be ready in about a month's time
Wow that's a really quick timeframe. The caps I'm planning to use with this board might not even be done by then.
Post by: sprit on Sun, 07 August 2016, 10:39:39
Why wont there be acrylic plates? Could we get WKL or SPRiT to help us run a GB for them?Hi! I dont know what is going on, but only if you guys want, i may do that in September at $25 Free Shipping Worldwide.
As i am a hugh Lover over 5mm Thick Acrylic and Polycarb Plates for their lighting and acoustic effects, as you know.
The drawing is easy job for me, the plate will let the SW Tops open.
Just I want somebody help me to organize the orders to save me time n efforts. No MOQ!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 07 August 2016, 10:53:06
Hi! I dont know what is going on, but only if you guys want, i may do that in September at $25 Free Shipping Worldwide.
As i am a hugh Lover over 5mm Thick Acrylic and Polycarb Plates for their lighting and acoustic effects, as you know.
The drawing is easy job for me, the plate will let the SW Tops open.
Just I want somebody help me to orgarnze the orders to save me time n effortst
That would be awesome. BUUT, I'm only interested if you finish all GB orders before starting this, I'd rather wait on a nice plate then have others' orders even more delayed, I hope you understand that :).
If you explain in further detail what you mean with "organize orders" it would be a lot easier for everyone to offer help.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 07 August 2016, 10:56:48
Hi! I dont know what is going on, but only if you guys want, i may do that in September at $25 Free Shipping Worldwide.Make the file and maybe I could run it, I don't think you should be doing any more with your history.
As i am a hugh Lover over 5mm Thick Acrylic and Polycarb Plates for their lighting and acoustic effects, as you know.
The drawing is easy job for me, the plate will let the SW Tops open.
Just I want somebody help me to organize the orders to save me time n efforts. No MOQ!
Post by: sprit on Sun, 07 August 2016, 11:10:24
Hi! I dont know what is going on, but only if you guys want, i may do that in September at $25 Free Shipping Worldwide.Make the file and maybe I could run it, I don't think you should be doing any more with your history.
As i am a hugh Lover over 5mm Thick Acrylic and Polycarb Plates for their lighting and acoustic effects, as you know.
The drawing is easy job for me, the plate will let the SW Tops open.
Just I want somebody help me to organize the orders to save me time n efforts. No MOQ!
Its up to me, None of your concern at all.
I wont give you my own design file. Its not yours :p
The change is the essence of History.
Good for people to have many volunteers! :)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 07 August 2016, 11:36:17
Its up to me, None of your concern at all.Honestly I have to question what the **** you're doing still taking orders when you're still not fulfilling orders that are years old. You should stay away from anything group buy related if you're a decent person. :rolleyes:
Post by: sprit on Sun, 07 August 2016, 11:39:54
I am volunteering if i will have a free time.
Its upto me and ppl.
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 07 August 2016, 11:45:52
There goes the rest of my tax return. Way too gorgeous of a keyboard to turn down.
If you get a tax return every year that means you're over paying the government throughout the year and they are making money off your over payment via interest. What you're looking for is to pay the least amount of taxes while trying to avoid having to pay more than 100.00 and/or get 100.00 back on your return. That way you have a chance to enjoy more money throughout the year and invest in whatever you want instead of letting the government get rich off you and giving you a false sense of happiness during tax return time =)
Cheers
I work at a tax and accounting office so I hear this a lot, but to be honest it depends a ton on the individual and what they are planning on do with that money in the mean time. If you're getting back less than $1000, that is probably around $40 extra in your paycheck assuming you're paid bi-weekly and a lot of people do not have the financial austerity to actually put that money away, rather they just spend it on an extra dinner date, night at the movies, an online purchase, or something else. Add to that interest rates being awful right now (less than 1% from most banks and CUs) and your $1000 you put away studiously throughout the year earned an extra $10, congrats.
Now if the amount of the refund is a quite a bit higher ($5000+) I will recommend people change withholding so that they get more back through the year, but some people like to treat it as a savings account as it's somewhere that they can't touch it. If that is the case, more power to them, as it's their money and they know themselves better than anyone else and if they know they need to save their money that way I'm just glad they recognize it.
QFT. Nothing with taxes is cut and dried and applicable for every situation.
Post by: MrDaddio on Mon, 08 August 2016, 15:41:27
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 18:11:41
In regards to the above messages....lol all I have to say is if you're making money, you're not volunteering....🙄🙄🙄
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 08 August 2016, 20:34:45
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 20:37:59
Thank you for participating and making this happen! :D
Post by: sprit on Mon, 08 August 2016, 20:38:29
Been busy lately to update the spreadsheet. I will tonight.Yes I am volunteering for plus positive benefits for me and then for some ppl, Basically I am not doing charity as you dont.
In regards to the above messages....lol all I have to say is if you're making money, you're not volunteering....🙄🙄🙄
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 20:44:20
Been busy lately to update the spreadsheet. I will tonight.Yes I am volunteering for plus positive benefits for me and then for some ppl, Basically I am not doing charity as you dont.
In regards to the above messages....lol all I have to say is if you're making money, you're not volunteering....🙄🙄🙄
Then you are selling and doing business, NOT volunteering because you are NOT a charity.
At least I finish a group buy before moving on to other ones...
Post by: sprit on Mon, 08 August 2016, 20:51:05
Yes I agree you are much better in moral and ethical aspects!
A GB is basically selling and buying at lower price.
And I prefer deploy several things together, its my character as you seen.
Done all of my speach! Thanks! I
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 21:02:46
Cool down Mr!
Yes I agree you are much better in moral and ethical aspects!
A GB is basically selling and buying at lower price.
And I prefer deploy several things together, its my character as you seen.
Done all of my speach! Thanks! I
Ok. :thumb:
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 08 August 2016, 21:13:56
Post by: duzeyao on Mon, 08 August 2016, 22:47:52
This is Duck Black Bird group buy as the title suggests. Whatever other stuff is better off in a separate thread.
Totally Agreed with Caomu big god. :thumb:
And thanks again for Elton's work. :))
Post by: Jeu on Tue, 09 August 2016, 09:48:25
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 09 August 2016, 10:23:52
Since the payment date is pushed back, if we can pay immediately is it still possible to order? the form is open but didn't want to just assume that was true.You can still order. :)
Post by: oatsbagotes on Tue, 09 August 2016, 14:59:51
Post by: HannahPeach on Tue, 09 August 2016, 20:40:19
Post by: baotung on Wed, 10 August 2016, 20:43:45
I sent you a pm regarding changing the base color from silver to black. Let me know if you got it! Thanks!
Post by: cheesybreadstick on Mon, 15 August 2016, 11:57:39
Sorry about being kinda late!
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 15 August 2016, 12:02:53
Post by: Waateva on Tue, 16 August 2016, 13:17:26
Post by: TheVengeance on Tue, 16 August 2016, 16:26:17
Post by: Moistgun on Tue, 16 August 2016, 16:39:24
Am I still ok to order?
Buy period has been closed for a while. in the op.
Post by: TheVengeance on Tue, 16 August 2016, 16:41:08
Post by: Moistgun on Tue, 16 August 2016, 16:43:59
OK sorry, just saw that order form still open and also a post above saying that was extended.
Oh, I assumed that just meant for payments.
Maybe you can order?
Post by: Jeu on Tue, 16 August 2016, 19:29:48
Post by: tuco on Tue, 16 August 2016, 19:42:16
Post by: Hexterdude on Thu, 18 August 2016, 21:49:18
Post by: widdlekitty on Thu, 18 August 2016, 22:28:02
Has anyone heard from elton recently?
Invoice deadline is tomorrow, so I'm sure we'll hear from him shortly after.
Post by: duzeyao on Sat, 20 August 2016, 22:58:01
Has anyone heard from elton recently?
:eek:
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 21 August 2016, 10:35:07
:(
I'm still pretty sure everything will turn out okay though :thumb:
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 21 August 2016, 10:39:01
Post by: xondat on Sun, 21 August 2016, 17:53:09
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 21 August 2016, 17:55:01
Post by: Chedda7 on Sun, 21 August 2016, 18:32:56
I'm all seriousness I understand real life stuff getting in the way. Just hope to hear from him soon.
Post by: Hexterdude on Sun, 21 August 2016, 19:06:52
IvanIvanovich group buy member that got burned having flashbacks :eek:
I'm all seriousness I understand real life stuff getting in the way. Just hope to hear from him soon.
eltons a swell guy. I'm sure he'll answer our questions soon enough
Post by: duzeyao on Sun, 21 August 2016, 19:31:07
IvanIvanovich group buy member that got burned having flashbacks :eek:
I'm all seriousness I understand real life stuff getting in the way. Just hope to hear from him soon.
Oh Ivan :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 21 August 2016, 19:42:45
Stay calm guys
Post by: digi on Sun, 21 August 2016, 19:46:05
It's too soon to accuse anything, Elton is a very reputable Duck GB runner
Stay calm guys
+1
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 21 August 2016, 19:52:47
Post by: Chedda7 on Sun, 21 August 2016, 20:44:59
It's too soon to accuse anything, Elton is a very reputable Duck GB runner
Stay calm guys
I am hardly accusing Elton of anything. I even said I understand. Just hard to forget getting burned, ya know?
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 21 August 2016, 22:11:06
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 22 August 2016, 09:44:29
Just spoke with Elton and he's currently out of town for work with no access to internet. He will respond when he's back.
Post by: Waateva on Mon, 22 August 2016, 10:04:04
***UPDATE***
Just spoke with Elton and he's currently out of town for work with no access to internet. He will respond when he's back.
Thanks for the update!
Post by: Chedda7 on Fri, 26 August 2016, 22:48:34
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 27 August 2016, 04:53:44
I am about to start a group buy to get Elton Internet access...
I actually had a slight chuckle from reading this.
How about you start an IC first?
Post by: Chedda7 on Sat, 27 August 2016, 06:49:36
How about you start an IC first?
Good point, we need to respect the process.
Post by: ManicMatt1125 on Sat, 27 August 2016, 12:59:20
Post by: xondat on Sat, 27 August 2016, 13:03:09
Order link still open? Does that mean I can still order???You can but I think all the spots are taken up so if anyone drops out then you might be moved up.
Post by: widdlekitty on Tue, 30 August 2016, 21:08:58
Post by: duzeyao on Wed, 31 August 2016, 09:38:18
Everything is fine and blackbird is 80% complete so don't worry.
I don't know if it is appropriate to post detailed email content here though.
So let's just wait and see. :thumb:
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 31 August 2016, 09:57:08
Just emailed Duck and got a reply.
Everything is fine and blackbird is 80% complete so don't worry.
I don't know if it is appropriate to post detailed email content here though.
So let's just wait and see. :thumb:
How does he have access to email and not GH to just say that everything is cool?
v weird
Post by: joey on Wed, 31 August 2016, 09:59:17
Duck != elton.Just emailed Duck and got a reply.
Everything is fine and blackbird is 80% complete so don't worry.
I don't know if it is appropriate to post detailed email content here though.
So let's just wait and see. :thumb:
How does he have access to email and not GH to just say that everything is cool?
v weird
Post by: boo on Wed, 31 August 2016, 10:36:27
Duck != elton.Just emailed Duck and got a reply.
Everything is fine and blackbird is 80% complete so don't worry.
I don't know if it is appropriate to post detailed email content here though.
So let's just wait and see. :thumb:
How does he have access to email and not GH to just say that everything is cool?
v weird
Yup. elton organized the buy. He isn't Duck.
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 31 August 2016, 12:14:54
Duck != elton.
Thanks for the irrelevant weigh in!
Yup. elton organized the buy. He isn't Duck.
Why would duck be the one to relay information to us regarding the GB?
Its the group buy runners responsibility to give updates for their group buy.
Post by: Spopepro on Wed, 31 August 2016, 12:46:00
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 31 August 2016, 12:48:20
Duck != elton.
Thanks for the irrelevant weigh in!Yup. elton organized the buy. He isn't Duck.
Why would duck be the one to relay information to us regarding the GB?
Its the group buy runners responsibility to give updates for their group buy.
It's not irrelevant, it was posted in the thread that Elton has no internet access at the moment.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 31 August 2016, 13:33:34
Why would duck be the one to relay information to us regarding the GB?
Its the group buy runners responsibility to give updates for their group buy.
When you can't get update from GB runner then Duck becomes your second best source.
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 31 August 2016, 13:38:17
Access to email implies access to InternetDuck != elton.
Thanks for the irrelevant weigh in!Yup. elton organized the buy. He isn't Duck.
Why would duck be the one to relay information to us regarding the GB?
Its the group buy runners responsibility to give updates for their group buy.
It's not irrelevant, it was posted in the thread that Elton has no internet access at the moment.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 31 August 2016, 13:52:37
Access to email implies access to Internet
Again: duck is not elton, duck has access to e-mail and internet at the moment, elton hasn't. There was an e-mail sent to duck (again: he is not elton and therefore has access to internet atm), who is the designer and has access to gb information. He gave the person who sent him the e-mail (this person was not elton) the current status and the person who got the information shared it with us. Elton still has no internet access and was not involved in anything of this.
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 31 August 2016, 14:11:07
Access to email implies access to Internet
Again: duck is not elton, duck has access to e-mail and internet at the moment, elton hasn't. There was an e-mail sent to duck (again: he is not elton and therefore has access to internet atm), who is the designer and has access to gb information. He gave the person who sent him the e-mail (this person was not elton) the current status and the person who got the information shared it with us. Elton still has no internet access and was not involved in anything of this.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg)
my bad.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 01 September 2016, 06:54:15
Duck keypad
Duck Viper/Eagle
Duck Octagon
Elton is awesome, this indictment of his character is unreasonable.
Post by: ryptide11 on Thu, 01 September 2016, 06:59:15
Post by: Chedda7 on Thu, 01 September 2016, 07:07:32
I was part of the group buys for:
Duck keypad
Duck Viper/Eagle
Duck Octagon
Elton is awesome, this indictment of his character is unreasonable.
Duck has never failed to deliver. I have been part of his last 5 GB's.
Do you want me to list the successfully run GBs by IvanIvanovich? Do you want me to link you to people saying what you just said about him when he went radio silent???
This is not to say that Elton == IvanIvanovich, I am merely pointing out that it would be foolish not to question some of these things. If we keep blindly defending these GB organizers you are going to get burned sooner or later.
Bottom line is people have $430+ riding on this, I think it is a understandable that they get antsy when the person they sent that money to hasn't logged on in ~20 days.
With that said I am eagerly awaiting getting my Blackbird :)) (dat Round 2 wait tho :-[).
Post by: LunarisDream on Thu, 01 September 2016, 07:27:36
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 01 September 2016, 07:33:30
My $0.02: while not logging in for 20 days is abnormal, there's really not much else to do. If you've participated, you are protected by Paypal for 180 days, so there's no real merit to getting antsy and casting doubt, because even if said doubt is well-founded, it brings no benefit to the current situation. Just sit tight and wait for an update. Blind speculation is rarely helpful.
If this was Reddit I'd upvote the **** out of that post. As long as we are not getting close to the 180 days there is no reason to be upset.
Post by: duckness on Thu, 01 September 2016, 07:52:55
Do you want me to list the successfully run GBs by IvanIvanovich? Do you want me to link you to people saying what you just said about him when he went radio silent???
This is not to say that Elton == IvanIvanovich, I am merely pointing out that it would be foolish not to question some of these things. If we keep blindly defending these GB organizers you are going to get burned sooner or later.
Bottom line is people have $430+ riding on this, I think it is a understandable that they get antsy when the person they sent that money to hasn't logged on in ~20 days.
I think at this current juncture in time, there is no need to panic, Elton has been MIA before for 1.5 months (after payment of OctagonV2 to just before the first batch shipped):
More
(http://i.imgur.com/E5COE1h.png)
Furthermore, as LunarisDream mentioned, you are still protected by PayPal Protection for around the next 5 months, so there really is no need for panic until that time draws close.
Post by: jal on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:24:40
Post by: xondat on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:32:26
Do you want me to list the successfully run GBs by IvanIvanovich? Do you want me to link you to people saying what you just said about him when he went radio silent???
This is not to say that Elton == IvanIvanovich, I am merely pointing out that it would be foolish not to question some of these things. If we keep blindly defending these GB organizers you are going to get burned sooner or later.
Bottom line is people have $430+ riding on this, I think it is a understandable that they get antsy when the person they sent that money to hasn't logged on in ~20 days.
With that said I am eagerly awaiting getting my Blackbird :)) (dat Round 2 wait tho :-[).
Ivan spent the last few months reassuring everyone that everything was under control iirc. As long as you're within the PayPals 180 days, then there is nothing really to worry about, but it does matter depending on the vendor. Duck you can trust, never done anything negative with his buys. Some other vendors? Well you better hope they reply within a day otherwise it's cool to panic.
Post by: maximm on Mon, 12 September 2016, 13:35:46
Post by: MrDaddio on Mon, 12 September 2016, 13:41:28
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 12 September 2016, 13:57:29
There was an update from Duck a while back that production was occurring but haven't heard anything besides that myself so I am curious too.
If Elton keeps the same pace as in the octagon GB we should have a post/statement from him in the next 10-15 days.
Post by: maximm on Thu, 15 September 2016, 02:37:55
(http://i.imgur.com/rBDpWKY.jpg)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 15 September 2016, 03:42:23
From the korean GBNow I'm really glad I bought this board... Man that **** is hot.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rBDpWKY.jpg)
Post by: kenshinjeff on Thu, 15 September 2016, 04:50:46
From the korean GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rBDpWKY.jpg)
Ohhh my god. It is sooo beautiful.
Post by: Kubiedo on Thu, 15 September 2016, 05:55:17
From the korean GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rBDpWKY.jpg)
Anychance you can give a link to the korean gb? :)
Post by: jal on Thu, 15 September 2016, 08:28:27
From the korean GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rBDpWKY.jpg)
I now understand objectophilia.
Post by: MrDaddio on Thu, 15 September 2016, 09:56:37
From the korean GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rBDpWKY.jpg)
This picture made me quite glad I went with the blocked corners HHKB style. What a beautiful board!
Post by: yookwh on Thu, 15 September 2016, 11:25:22
Post by: duzeyao on Sun, 18 September 2016, 09:28:02
Post by: MrDaddio on Fri, 23 September 2016, 00:53:30
Post by: cmd on Fri, 23 September 2016, 01:02:20
It's mid September...wtf can you people possibly be freaking out about. 60 boards are being produced, and that doesn't even account for the Korean GB.
Chill out pls :cool:
Post by: MrDaddio on Fri, 23 September 2016, 01:06:02
Didn't this GB just close sometime mid August (paid invoice by Aug. 19th)?
It's mid September...wtf can you people possibly be freaking out about. 60 boards are being produced, and that doesn't even account for the Korean GB.
Chill out pls :cool:
Not freaking out,
Just wanted to see if there was any kind of update as the thread hasn't had activity for a few days.
I have no doubts everything is going well.
Post by: maximm on Fri, 23 September 2016, 01:26:14
Post by: cmd on Fri, 23 September 2016, 01:26:41
Didn't this GB just close sometime mid August (paid invoice by Aug. 19th)?
It's mid September...wtf can you people possibly be freaking out about. 60 boards are being produced, and that doesn't even account for the Korean GB.
Chill out pls :cool:
Not freaking out,
Just wanted to see if there was any kind of update as the thread hasn't had activity for a few days.
I have no doubts everything is going well.
These have gotten considerably faster. No doubt that it will be completed very shortly but that shouldn't be held to! Elton is an excellent organizer :thumb: and duck gets these done and shipped :thumb:
Post by: cmd on Fri, 23 September 2016, 01:30:58
People from the Korean GB got their boards a week ago...
Duck is also in Korea and so is the factory...
This means...that 60 boards need to be individually wrapped, packed, and then sent out to Elton in Canada.
This then results in customs (time, generally a considerable amount). Then Elton has to check them, repack them so that they can to be sent out (to you), which likely results in more customs, well because the majority of us here are in the US.
So yeah, I can see that the Korean GB would get theres before the GH members. I also feel like I remember Elton saying the Korean GB finished up before the GH GB?
Post by: keyit on Fri, 23 September 2016, 02:05:55
Post by: kenshinjeff on Fri, 23 September 2016, 03:53:40
Personally, I don't think "silence" is a big issue, cos I don't think elton nor duck will confirm the existence of a GB and then run away with our money. I'm just glad to be able to purchase korean customs at reasonable pricings without having to get someone who knows korean to liase with you, transfer money, etc. etc.
Post by: keyit on Sun, 25 September 2016, 01:39:21
Post by: ctrlX on Sun, 25 September 2016, 02:48:20
Post by: keyit on Sun, 25 September 2016, 15:35:25
Rumour is that viper/eagle will be the next GB from Duck. It's been a long wait for many. Personally I'm waiting for Lightsaver.
Yeah I had a viper, sold it. Layout was interesting but just wasn't for me .
Post by: xondat on Sun, 25 September 2016, 15:38:15
Rumour is that viper/eagle will be the next GB from Duck. It's been a long wait for many. Personally I'm waiting for Lightsaver.It's live in Korea.
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 25 September 2016, 17:56:52
Rumour is that viper/eagle will be the next GB from Duck. It's been a long wait for many. Personally I'm waiting for Lightsaver.It's live in Korea.
Do you have the link?
Edit -
Found. I'm disappointed they're not using the new design T.T....
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:05:34
Where is Elton when you need him haha
Post by: xondat on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:46:18
Will it be available in the US?Probably a couple of months at least... Octagon to Blackbird was 6 months.
Where is Elton when you need him haha
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 17:40:17
Guess who's back?!?!
Ok I'm going to review all the PMs today and if anyone of you needs an address change that didn't PM me yet, please do so ASAP. Shipping for batch 1 is coming up, well, it is ready, my work kept me tired and away from updating.
So I will get this done by today and tomorrow. So PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. I can't add anything at this point though, sorry.
Post by: oatsbagotes on Wed, 28 September 2016, 17:46:19
Post by: HannahPeach on Wed, 28 September 2016, 18:16:55
Hi guys
Guess who's back?!?!
Ok I'm going to review all the PMs today and if anyone of you needs an address change that didn't PM me yet, please do so ASAP. Shipping for batch 1 is coming up, well, it is ready, my work kept me tired and away from updating.
So I will get this done by today and tomorrow. So PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. I can't add anything at this point though, sorry.
GUESS WHO'BACK BACK AGAIN
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 28 September 2016, 18:25:04
Hi guys
Guess who's back?!?!
Ok I'm going to review all the PMs today and if anyone of you needs an address change that didn't PM me yet, please do so ASAP. Shipping for batch 1 is coming up, well, it is ready, my work kept me tired and away from updating.
So I will get this done by today and tomorrow. So PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. I can't add anything at this point though, sorry.
Still can't add if we're in batch 2? Was really hoping to add a plate and pcb.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 18:25:41
Hi guys
Guess who's back?!?!
Ok I'm going to review all the PMs today and if anyone of you needs an address change that didn't PM me yet, please do so ASAP. Shipping for batch 1 is coming up, well, it is ready, my work kept me tired and away from updating.
So I will get this done by today and tomorrow. So PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. I can't add anything at this point though, sorry.
Still can't add if we're in batch 2?
Oh you can then. PM me again what you want to add
Post by: oatsbagotes on Wed, 28 September 2016, 18:47:13
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 18:48:55
Are the batch sizes still 30?
Yes they are.
The 2nd batch won't be long after
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 28 September 2016, 22:47:55
Hi guys
Guess who's back?!?!
Ok I'm going to review all the PMs today and if anyone of you needs an address change that didn't PM me yet, please do so ASAP. Shipping for batch 1 is coming up, well, it is ready, my work kept me tired and away from updating.
So I will get this done by today and tomorrow. So PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. I can't add anything at this point though, sorry.
To all the people who doubted Elton... :))
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 28 September 2016, 23:24:43
Hi guys
Guess who's back?!?!
Ok I'm going to review all the PMs today and if anyone of you needs an address change that didn't PM me yet, please do so ASAP. Shipping for batch 1 is coming up, well, it is ready, my work kept me tired and away from updating.
So I will get this done by today and tomorrow. So PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. I can't add anything at this point though, sorry.
Does this low key mean you have Batch 1 in hand?
Post by: wodan on Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:31:52
Yes they are.
The 2nd batch won't be long after
YEY ! Will there be an Eagle/Viper GB ?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 29 September 2016, 11:50:59
Post by: boo on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:38:29
Glad to see you back Elton. I was just about to file dispute and I'm glad I didn't. :p
Haha you can file a dispute for 180 days, not 30 :)
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Post by: slickmamba on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:41:38
Glad to see you back Elton. I was just about to file dispute and I'm glad I didn't. :pwho is this beautiful man I see?
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 15:16:03
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 29 September 2016, 15:17:59
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.
Hi Elton ;).
Post by: maximm on Thu, 29 September 2016, 15:38:34
Post by: Butter on Thu, 29 September 2016, 15:44:40
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.
Ship my I have no change to be made :)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 15:58:00
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.
I'm all set!
Post by: duzeyao on Thu, 29 September 2016, 18:40:41
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.Good to go :thumb:
Post by: kenshinjeff on Thu, 29 September 2016, 19:15:55
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.
No problem here.
Post by: buzzking00 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 20:35:43
What button do you guys use to access the F keys?
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 29 September 2016, 21:10:19
Is this GB still open or am I too late? :(This train seems to be looooong gone
What button do you guys use to access the F keys?
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Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 21:16:29
Time to buy some switches!!
Post by: SaySo on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:30:16
Post by: buzzking00 on Sat, 01 October 2016, 17:14:34
Anybody want out? I'll take your spot! I will be in Korea this month!
Post by: renne on Sun, 02 October 2016, 00:59:28
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.Could you add me to the 2nd batch? When will it happen?
Post by: boo on Sun, 02 October 2016, 01:53:53
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.Could you add me to the 2nd batch? When will it happen?
1st and 2nd batch are already ordered and paid for
Post by: paulforgione on Sun, 02 October 2016, 02:07:30
Ok, no more changes in the 1st batch?! If so, I'll send it in and it will be shipped as is then.Could you add me to the 2nd batch? When will it happen?
1st and 2nd batch are already ordered and paid for
True, though I joined and paid just a few days ago after speaking with Elton via PM, so it may be worth a shot? He mentioned there may be a few spaces left. ;)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 02 October 2016, 14:58:38
I never once doubted you Elton ;D
Post by: paulforgione on Mon, 03 October 2016, 00:56:31
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 03 October 2016, 01:08:15
Just curious, I know the original post mentions support for RGB and SMD LEDs. Does anyone know if that's referring to the handful around the edge of the casing, or if there's any type of backlighting for the keys that's possible?
RGB led for the underglow effect. SMD LEDs or the normal through hold LEDs for keys.
Post by: MrChunky on Mon, 03 October 2016, 04:08:31
Post by: romevi on Mon, 03 October 2016, 08:25:21
Did you guys realize the banner in the original post changed to Viper and Eagle v2? When is that happening?
Probably soon. It was announced just last week on duck's page and will be the last duck GB for 2016.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 15:19:51
Post by: olieatstofu on Tue, 04 October 2016, 01:14:20
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 06 October 2016, 02:50:56
Post by: wodan on Thu, 06 October 2016, 03:21:02
- Order ONLY if you can pay the invoice by the deadline (August 19, 2016)
paid :)
;)
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 06 October 2016, 03:33:36
joined the gb 3 days ago ;)
- Order ONLY if you can pay the invoice by the deadline (August 19, 2016)paid :)
;)
Post by: paulforgione on Thu, 06 October 2016, 13:48:20
I went black / black anodization, and picked up two of Rama's SS Liquid Black keys (http://rama.works/store/rama-ss-x-liquid-black-kc-mx) for Esc / Delete. Was thinking I would grab some black pbt side-printed caps like Geekkey's (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/) (for the full stealth look), and put them on Zeal's R4 65g switches & stabs (https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio).
Post by: seblove on Thu, 06 October 2016, 16:24:11
Just curious what everyone else's plans are with this? This is my first custom, and I'm looking forward to diving in when the time comes.
I went black / black anodization, and picked up two of Rama's SS Liquid Black keys (http://rama.works/store/rama-ss-x-liquid-black-kc-mx) for Esc / Delete. Was thinking I would grab some black pbt side-printed caps like Geekkey's (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/) (for the full stealth look), and put them on Zeal's R4 65g switches & stabs (https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio).
That'll be very slick for a first custom !! Have you ever typed on lubed zealios? It's one of those things that sounds like overkill but once you take the time to do it, you never wanna go back to stock switches. I'd consider it the last step to take your board to god-tier, and would be worth considering beforehand given that the black bird plate doesn't support switch-top removal :cool:
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 06 October 2016, 16:26:00
Post by: Spopepro on Thu, 06 October 2016, 17:06:20
I'm probably going to use modded aristotles of some kind. Maybe even going off the deep end and pulling apart 3 different kinds of switches and making a super frankenswitch. It will get the PBT blue and red Hangul set from originative once it shows up.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 06 October 2016, 17:30:57
As far as Keycaps go I'll try many different ones and decide on what I think looks best in person (EnjoyPBT Purple Hangul, GMK Skeletor, GMK Carbon, GMK Hyperfuse, Oco PBT Japanese Purple/Cyan).
Post by: buzzking00 on Thu, 06 October 2016, 21:57:24
joined the gb 3 days ago ;)
- Order ONLY if you can pay the invoice by the deadline (August 19, 2016)paid :)
How did you join after the group buy date was over?
;)
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 06 October 2016, 23:28:19
Just curious what everyone else's plans are with this? This is my first custom, and I'm looking forward to diving in when the time comes.
I went black / black anodization, and picked up two of Rama's SS Liquid Black keys (http://rama.works/store/rama-ss-x-liquid-black-kc-mx) for Esc / Delete. Was thinking I would grab some black pbt side-printed caps like Geekkey's (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/) (for the full stealth look), and put them on Zeal's R4 65g switches & stabs (https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio).
That'll be very slick for a first custom !! Have you ever typed on lubed zealios? It's one of those things that sounds like overkill but once you take the time to do it, you never wanna go back to stock switches. I'd consider it the last step to take your board to god-tier, and would be worth considering beforehand given that the black bird plate doesn't support switch-top removal :cool:
That's very much personal preference. I dislike lubed zealios.
Post by: paulforgione on Fri, 07 October 2016, 00:30:18
My friend just finished putting together his Ergodox with Zeals though, so I'll have to give his a test.
Post by: maximm on Fri, 07 October 2016, 01:09:42
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 07 October 2016, 01:11:38
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Fri, 07 October 2016, 06:46:12
SKIDATA BB!! YEEEEE....Same here. Skidata+ with lubed ergo-clears. Zealios wobble too much for my liking.
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Post by: seblove on Fri, 07 October 2016, 18:05:02
Just curious what everyone else's plans are with this? This is my first custom, and I'm looking forward to diving in when the time comes.
I went black / black anodization, and picked up two of Rama's SS Liquid Black keys (http://rama.works/store/rama-ss-x-liquid-black-kc-mx) for Esc / Delete. Was thinking I would grab some black pbt side-printed caps like Geekkey's (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/) (for the full stealth look), and put them on Zeal's R4 65g switches & stabs (https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio).
That'll be very slick for a first custom !! Have you ever typed on lubed zealios? It's one of those things that sounds like overkill but once you take the time to do it, you never wanna go back to stock switches. I'd consider it the last step to take your board to god-tier, and would be worth considering beforehand given that the black bird plate doesn't support switch-top removal :cool:
That's very much personal preference. I dislike lubed zealios.
That's totally fair, everything is preference. But I'd say on average people really like the lubed counterpart to their favorite switch; you're the first I've heard announce dislike for a lubed zealio - it just makes it sound less plasticky and feels more consistent imo. Maybe you typed on swamped switches? Who knows.
Post by: SixtyLife on Fri, 07 October 2016, 19:25:42
How did you join after the group buy date was over?messaged elton and he said there was still space in batch 2
Post by: buzzking00 on Fri, 07 October 2016, 21:20:44
Those of us in the bay should have a blackbird family photo.
I'm probably going to use modded aristotles of some kind. Maybe even going off the deep end and pulling apart 3 different kinds of switches and making a super frankenswitch. It will get the PBT blue and red Hangul set from originative once it shows up.
Just signed up for the GB! Bay area pic sounds like a great idea!
Post by: tuco on Fri, 07 October 2016, 21:42:54
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 07 October 2016, 23:23:50
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 08 October 2016, 04:22:07
sooo where's the eagle / viper gb?
In Korea.
The first international batch of the Black Bird isn't even shipped, so I'd guess it is at least one and a half months (probably longer) until the eagle/viper GB is live.
The reason for the picture in the opening post is probably just Duck who uploaded it and used the same url for it as for the Black Bird pic, thus overwriting it. I'm very sure it was not elton, because it changed before he logged in again.
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 08 October 2016, 04:36:11
sooo where's the eagle / viper gb?
In Korea.
The first international batch of the Black Bird isn't even shipped, so I'd guess it is at least one and a half months (probably longer) until the eagle/viper GB is live.
The reason for the picture in the opening post is probably just Duck who uploaded it and used the same url for it as for the Black Bird pic, thus overwriting it. I'm very sure it was not elton, because it changed before he logged in again.
thanks man
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:06:50
When will the Estimated ship date be for the second batch?
About a month after the 1st batch. 1st batch will be ready in about a month's time
Soo, any updates on the shipping timeline? I've got a slight feeling that this might not be up to date anymore.
Post by: kenshinjeff on Mon, 10 October 2016, 20:08:56
Post by: widdlekitty on Tue, 11 October 2016, 20:49:33
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 12 October 2016, 20:00:20
Just curious what everyone else's plans are with this? This is my first custom, and I'm looking forward to diving in when the time comes.
I went black / black anodization, and picked up two of Rama's SS Liquid Black keys (http://rama.works/store/rama-ss-x-liquid-black-kc-mx) for Esc / Delete. Was thinking I would grab some black pbt side-printed caps like Geekkey's (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/) (for the full stealth look), and put them on Zeal's R4 65g switches & stabs (https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio).
That'll be very slick for a first custom !! Have you ever typed on lubed zealios? It's one of those things that sounds like overkill but once you take the time to do it, you never wanna go back to stock switches. I'd consider it the last step to take your board to god-tier, and would be worth considering beforehand given that the black bird plate doesn't support switch-top removal :cool:
That's very much personal preference. I dislike lubed zealios.
That's totally fair, everything is preference. But I'd say on average people really like the lubed counterpart to their favorite switch; you're the first I've heard announce dislike for a lubed zealio - it just makes it sound less plasticky and feels more consistent imo. Maybe you typed on swamped switches? Who knows.
fwiw, I dislike lubed Zealios also - I like the 67g Zealios because of the big tactile bump and lubing them (even lightly) loses some of that bump from my experience.
Post by: hoanglh94 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 03:03:08
Still i suggest you guys to lube the spring to get rid of the springing and creaky sound ;)Just curious what everyone else's plans are with this? This is my first custom, and I'm looking forward to diving in when the time comes.
I went black / black anodization, and picked up two of Rama's SS Liquid Black keys (http://rama.works/store/rama-ss-x-liquid-black-kc-mx) for Esc / Delete. Was thinking I would grab some black pbt side-printed caps like Geekkey's (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/) (for the full stealth look), and put them on Zeal's R4 65g switches & stabs (https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio).
That'll be very slick for a first custom !! Have you ever typed on lubed zealios? It's one of those things that sounds like overkill but once you take the time to do it, you never wanna go back to stock switches. I'd consider it the last step to take your board to god-tier, and would be worth considering beforehand given that the black bird plate doesn't support switch-top removal :cool:
That's very much personal preference. I dislike lubed zealios.
That's totally fair, everything is preference. But I'd say on average people really like the lubed counterpart to their favorite switch; you're the first I've heard announce dislike for a lubed zealio - it just makes it sound less plasticky and feels more consistent imo. Maybe you typed on swamped switches? Who knows.
fwiw, I dislike lubed Zealios also - I like the 67g Zealios because of the big tactile bump and lubing them (even lightly) loses some of that bump from my experience.
Post by: seblove on Thu, 13 October 2016, 07:04:17
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 13 October 2016, 11:46:03
^^ this^^ and maybe the sliders + bottom of the housing for more sound dampening/smoothness. That should leave the tactile bump mostly intact? I can totally see why yall would love the zealio as is, it lacks any noticeable scratchiness and has a crisp bump; I was just suggesting to the guy to try lubing them at some point if he hasn't had the chance. In other news, I'm excited to try out some MOD switches, they look like the real deal.
I've been at this custom keyboard business since 2011...I've tried all the various switch mods and know what I like and what I don't lol. I prefer MOD switches to zealios, but from your posts it sounds like you're going to prefer zealios.
Post by: oatsbagotes on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:27:14
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:36:21
Tracking is up!!!! ;D
My one month later countdown for R2 Blackbird starts right now.
Post by: keyit on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:45:12
Tracking is up!!!! ;D
ahhhh thank you for letting us know!
Post by: seblove on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:48:34
^^ this^^ and maybe the sliders + bottom of the housing for more sound dampening/smoothness. That should leave the tactile bump mostly intact? I can totally see why yall would love the zealio as is, it lacks any noticeable scratchiness and has a crisp bump; I was just suggesting to the guy to try lubing them at some point if he hasn't had the chance. In other news, I'm excited to try out some MOD switches, they look like the real deal.
I've been at this custom keyboard business since 2011...I've tried all the various switch mods and know what I like and what I don't lol. I prefer MOD switches to zealios, but from your posts it sounds like you're going to prefer zealios.
I was directing my harmless suggestion toward paulforgione, not you. Sorry if I somehow undermined your deep knowledge of switches, oh holy keeb lord est. 2011.
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 14 October 2016, 02:05:54
^^ this^^ and maybe the sliders + bottom of the housing for more sound dampening/smoothness. That should leave the tactile bump mostly intact? I can totally see why yall would love the zealio as is, it lacks any noticeable scratchiness and has a crisp bump; I was just suggesting to the guy to try lubing them at some point if he hasn't had the chance. In other news, I'm excited to try out some MOD switches, they look like the real deal.
I've been at this custom keyboard business since 2011...I've tried all the various switch mods and know what I like and what I don't lol. I prefer MOD switches to zealios, but from your posts it sounds like you're going to prefer zealios.
I was directing my harmless suggestion toward paulforgione, not you. Sorry if I somehow undermined your deep knowledge of switches, oh holy keeb lord est. 2011.
Yep, sorry about that, misread that in my haste while reading that in a short amount of time while at the hospital.
As for my comment, I wouldn't get your hopes up on the mod switches as it seems you're much more smoothness-oriented. Sheraton from originative is another one that prefers ergo clears to zealios and MODs definitely aren't as smooth as zealios.
Post by: seblove on Fri, 14 October 2016, 08:17:15
^^ this^^ and maybe the sliders + bottom of the housing for more sound dampening/smoothness. That should leave the tactile bump mostly intact? I can totally see why yall would love the zealio as is, it lacks any noticeable scratchiness and has a crisp bump; I was just suggesting to the guy to try lubing them at some point if he hasn't had the chance. In other news, I'm excited to try out some MOD switches, they look like the real deal.
I've been at this custom keyboard business since 2011...I've tried all the various switch mods and know what I like and what I don't lol. I prefer MOD switches to zealios, but from your posts it sounds like you're going to prefer zealios.
I was directing my harmless suggestion toward paulforgione, not you. Sorry if I somehow undermined your deep knowledge of switches, oh holy keeb lord est. 2011.
Yep, sorry about that, misread that in my haste while reading that in a short amount of time while at the hospital.
As for my comment, I wouldn't get your hopes up on the mod switches as it seems you're much more smoothness-oriented. Sheraton from originative is another one that prefers ergo clears to zealios and MODs definitely aren't as smooth as zealios.
I apologise as well, my comment was ****ish. Hope all is well with your health bud.
Post by: jal on Fri, 14 October 2016, 09:20:35
Tracking is up!!!! ;D
Thanks for the heads up!
...And I'm #31 of 30 shipped.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 14 October 2016, 09:40:52
Post by: Shados on Fri, 14 October 2016, 09:41:57
Tracking is up!!!! ;D
Thanks for the heads up!
...And I'm #31 of 30 shipped.
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, the first batch was limited to 30 units. Just be glad there was a second batch :P.
Post by: baotung on Sat, 15 October 2016, 17:49:12
Post by: oatsbagotes on Sat, 15 October 2016, 17:50:47
Is tracking getting posted on Paypal? I'm in the first 30 and havent received tracking yet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bZr5ca8P6Cbnli7XTZ7WHSkcUaKtJxZslLyAnPFiFbY/pubhtml?gid=1360862044&single=true
there you go
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 15 October 2016, 18:05:33
Is tracking getting posted on Paypal? I'm in the first 30 and havent received tracking yet.
LoL....
Post by: gandroider on Sun, 16 October 2016, 20:08:17
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 16 October 2016, 20:17:06
Hoping that Elton undervalued the package...
Post by: Shados on Sun, 16 October 2016, 20:18:28
Post by: duzeyao on Mon, 17 October 2016, 02:33:14
Let me make it simple: If you want a custom keyboard, get Duck from Elton.
11/10 Would join Duck GB again.
Post by: kenshinjeff on Mon, 17 October 2016, 07:58:26
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 17 October 2016, 08:05:23
Thought I missed the boat :P
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:06:53
Oh wow I didn't even notice it got shipped. Just checked and it's in my country already.
Hoping that Elton undervalued the package...
Packages coming into the US are exempt from tax/duties if they are below $400-500 USD (not sure which value). Also, Duck always undervalues the keyboards so you don't need to worry.
Post by: redbanshee on Mon, 17 October 2016, 11:12:10
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:19:02
This is my second Elton/Duck GB and you both nailed it again. I couldn't be happier. I just wish all GB's went as smoothly. Thank you both for all your hard work and for the patience you have with all us GH knuckleheads.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:31:30
Just received and opened mine! It's like a f'ing treasure hunt tearing through the complexity of packaging. I love it! So well packaged that it's the gold standard.
Any pics? I'd love to see a bit more than just the pics from Duck's blog
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:49:15
I second that!Just received and opened mine! It's like a f'ing treasure hunt tearing through the complexity of packaging. I love it! So well packaged that it's the gold standard.
Any pics? I'd love to see a bit more than just the pics from Duck's blog
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Post by: cheesybreadstick on Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:59:26
Same here! :)I second that!Just received and opened mine! It's like a f'ing treasure hunt tearing through the complexity of packaging. I love it! So well packaged that it's the gold standard.
Any pics? I'd love to see a bit more than just the pics from Duck's blog
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Post by: maximm on Mon, 17 October 2016, 14:01:32
Post by: oatsbagotes on Mon, 17 October 2016, 14:11:09
Post by: Butter on Mon, 17 October 2016, 16:15:12
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 17 October 2016, 16:17:33
Should I go with Gateron black or Vintage black? Decisions..
Post by: oatsbagotes on Mon, 17 October 2016, 16:48:56
(http://i.imgur.com/4GJ0oc9.jpg)
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 17 October 2016, 16:58:42
Mine was out for delivery and then back to post office. Dang!
Should I go with Gateron black or Vintage black? Decisions..
Vintage blacks + krytox. The only way.
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:03:26
Heres my finished build with Gat Blacks and JTK Stormtrooper, patiently waiting for GMK Stormtrooper ;D This is my first Duck board and I am very happy with the quality of this board and it feels like a tankMoarrrrr pictures please the side, the bottom, the backShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/4GJ0oc9.jpg)
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Post by: cheesybreadstick on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:11:48
Heres my finished build with Gat Blacks and JTK Stormtrooper, patiently waiting for GMK Stormtrooper ;D This is my first Duck board and I am very happy with the quality of this board and it feels like a tankIT'S BEAUTIFUL :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/4GJ0oc9.jpg)
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:24:58
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:39:00
So, BB doesn't support switchtop removal? The pressure...
Nope, no duck boards do.
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:40:09
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Post by: brighenne on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:42:30
AFAIK all kustom don't support switch top removal
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Indeed, the thought is that the cutouts make for less stable mounting in the plate.
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:52:02
I have one board (not a Duck) that supports switch top removal and it's wobbly as hell. I'm not a fan.AFAIK all kustom don't support switch top removal
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Indeed, the thought is that the cutouts make for less stable mounting in the plate.
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Post by: xondat on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:58:25
Which type of cutout is this?I have one board (not a Duck) that supports switch top removal and it's wobbly as hell. I'm not a fan.AFAIK all kustom don't support switch top removal
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Indeed, the thought is that the cutouts make for less stable mounting in the plate.
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Post by: m1kehonch0 on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:59:19
I can send a pic a little later when I get around to it. It's a RS84Which type of cutout is this?I have one board (not a Duck) that supports switch top removal and it's wobbly as hell. I'm not a fan.AFAIK all kustom don't support switch top removal
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Indeed, the thought is that the cutouts make for less stable mounting in the plate.
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Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 17 October 2016, 18:26:09
I can send a pic a little later when I get around to it. It's a RS84Which type of cutout is this?I have one board (not a Duck) that supports switch top removal and it's wobbly as hell. I'm not a fan.AFAIK all kustom don't support switch top removal
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Indeed, the thought is that the cutouts make for less stable mounting in the plate.
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I have an RS96 and it's the same... Agreed.
Post by: breitling on Mon, 17 October 2016, 18:58:39
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 17 October 2016, 19:08:25
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 17 October 2016, 19:33:13
(http://i.imgur.com/b0xfzMQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YBPKGMq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QNwfDQ6.jpg)
Full imgur post here. (http://imgur.com/a/jadQU)
Post by: cheesybreadstick on Mon, 17 October 2016, 19:35:18
Here's a few phone pics for those that wanted them... waiting on Zeal's GB to start assembly. I just stacked the parts up to give you all an idea, so if tolerances don't look quite right, that's why. I'm no photographer, so don't judge.I think these are great pictures! Thank you! :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/b0xfzMQ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YBPKGMq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QNwfDQ6.jpg)
Full imgur post here. (http://imgur.com/a/jadQU)
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Post by: gaiden on Mon, 17 October 2016, 19:45:43
Oh my its so prettyHere's a few phone pics for those that wanted them... waiting on Zeal's GB to start assembly. I just stacked the parts up to give you all an idea, so if tolerances don't look quite right, that's why. I'm no photographer, so don't judge.I think these are great pictures! Thank you! :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/b0xfzMQ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YBPKGMq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QNwfDQ6.jpg)
Full imgur post here. (http://imgur.com/a/jadQU)
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Post by: appleonama on Mon, 17 October 2016, 19:59:58
Here's a few phone pics for those that wanted them... waiting on Zeal's GB to start assembly. I just stacked the parts up to give you all an idea, so if tolerances don't look quite right, that's why. I'm no photographer, so don't judge.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/b0xfzMQ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YBPKGMq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QNwfDQ6.jpg)
Full imgur post here. (http://imgur.com/a/jadQU)
I wish duck would glass bead his keyboards. only reason I got rid of my orion.
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 17 October 2016, 20:01:20
What do you mean by that please explainHere's a few phone pics for those that wanted them... waiting on Zeal's GB to start assembly. I just stacked the parts up to give you all an idea, so if tolerances don't look quite right, that's why. I'm no photographer, so don't judge.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/b0xfzMQ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YBPKGMq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QNwfDQ6.jpg)
Full imgur post here. (http://imgur.com/a/jadQU)
I wish duck would glass bead his keyboards. only reason I got rid of my orion.
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Post by: jal on Mon, 17 October 2016, 20:03:39
I wish duck would glass bead his keyboards. only reason I got rid of my orion.What do you mean by that please explain
I'm curious, too. Do you mean bead blast? That's the only thing I can think of involving glass beads and aluminum fabrication.
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Mon, 17 October 2016, 20:08:30
Dude thanks for sharing! I'm SO geeked for mine (R2)!Here's a few phone pics for those that wanted them... waiting on Zeal's GB to start assembly. I just stacked the parts up to give you all an idea, so if tolerances don't look quite right, that's why. I'm no photographer, so don't judge.I think these are great pictures! Thank you! :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/b0xfzMQ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YBPKGMq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QNwfDQ6.jpg)
Full imgur post here. (http://imgur.com/a/jadQU)
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Post by: appleonama on Mon, 17 October 2016, 20:17:48
Post by: boo on Mon, 17 October 2016, 20:59:38
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 17 October 2016, 21:23:22
What I mean by that is the texture on the aluminum. I'm no expert, but as you can see it is a grainy texture finish on duck keyboards. I'm not sure what method he used but a shop told me you can achieve a nice smooth texture by glass bead blasting. All my other keyboards have a very fine texture and I am a huge fan of that.
I think this is more preference than quality. If it is a smooth finish it shows imperfections much easier.
Post by: appleonama on Mon, 17 October 2016, 21:25:05
What I mean by that is the texture on the aluminum. I'm no expert, but as you can see it is a grainy texture finish on duck keyboards. I'm not sure what method he used but a shop told me you can achieve a nice smooth texture by glass bead blasting. All my other keyboards have a very fine texture and I am a huge fan of that.
I think this is more preference than quality. If it is a smooth finish it shows imperfections much easier.
Yeah I never said anything about quality hence its only the "texture". Its just my preference to have a smooth texture.
Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 18 October 2016, 01:11:53
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 18 October 2016, 01:45:22
Erm some help with configuring the back rgb colours please? Anyone?
There is a tutorial for this on KBDlab (there also is a keymapping tutorial there), it's in Korean though, so I didn't get that much info out of it.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=370119&mid=board_sw
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 18 October 2016, 01:45:54
The customs didn't even bother opening the package, and they usually open everything that came into this country.
Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 18 October 2016, 03:45:18
Erm some help with configuring the back rgb colours please? Anyone?
There is a tutorial for this on KBDlab (there also is a keymapping tutorial there), it's in Korean though, so I didn't get that much info out of it.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=370119&mid=board_sw
Yeah I was hoping someone experienced with Duck boards could help out though. I went to the site downloaded the latest 02D KeyMapper but I realise that I just wanted to test the lights and not remap it. I realised it's possible to have a "original blackbird" firmware or "customised keymap" firmware. But in the first place, what's the keymap of the original one to test the lights?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 18 October 2016, 06:41:45
Here is a quick album showing all parts as well as a bit of case assembly:
http://imgur.com/a/I1u2J (http://imgur.com/a/I1u2J)
Edit:
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 18 October 2016, 07:00:02
Post by: repuls0r on Tue, 18 October 2016, 07:43:27
Post by: duzeyao on Tue, 18 October 2016, 08:14:42
Full replay from Duck:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=3954395&sid=49545b3e2ea4d6da5b724407c81b8c12
Flip key is next of backspace key
Also back rgb led was setting white because rgb led test
You can change the rgb color from O2D keymapper
Sorry my English
BLACK BIRD function same ORION V2 and OCTGON V2.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 18 October 2016, 09:22:09
(I hope this post will be submitted this time)
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Tue, 18 October 2016, 19:51:15
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Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 18 October 2016, 21:35:16
Post by: jal on Tue, 18 October 2016, 21:43:15
What I mean by that is the texture on the aluminum. I'm no expert, but as you can see it is a grainy texture finish on duck keyboards. I'm not sure what method he used but a shop told me you can achieve a nice smooth texture by glass bead blasting. All my other keyboards have a very fine texture and I am a huge fan of that.I think this is more preference than quality. If it is a smooth finish it shows imperfections much easier.
Agree that it is a preference. They're just different surface options. I prefer the rougher finish - it does hide minor sins, and it also leaves the surface more matte. I like that look.
Post by: Jeu on Tue, 18 October 2016, 21:43:43
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Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 18 October 2016, 21:52:09
Here (http://www.adamfalwell.com/projects/octagon/assets/lightsaverv2-layout-editing-and-updating-tutorial.pdf) is a Tutorial for the O2D keymapper, the mapping works the same way for the Black Bird, just be sure to use the version duzeyao linked.
(I hope this post will be submitted this time)
Oh. This is to say that I have to map the rgb control keys, and reflash before I can test the back RGBs? Hmn... that's a bit weird but ok I can try to do that.
Post by: Spopepro on Tue, 18 October 2016, 23:37:20
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 19 October 2016, 00:53:21
Here (http://www.adamfalwell.com/projects/octagon/assets/lightsaverv2-layout-editing-and-updating-tutorial.pdf) is a Tutorial for the O2D keymapper, the mapping works the same way for the Black Bird, just be sure to use the version duzeyao linked.
(I hope this post will be submitted this time)
Oh. This is to say that I have to map the rgb control keys, and reflash before I can test the back RGBs? Hmn... that's a bit weird but ok I can try to do that.
I don't know if there are control keys mapped on the firmware the board shipped with, but it definitely was a lot easier for me to figure out how to reflash it than to search for the stock mappings.
Post by: redbanshee on Wed, 19 October 2016, 08:28:47
Forgive me if I missed it, but are there dimensions/hole locations posted for what looks like a weight insert cavity?
I would like this info also!
Post by: Shados on Wed, 19 October 2016, 20:50:27
(https://shados.net/files/blackbird-niggle1.jpg)
(https://shados.net/files/blackbird-niggle2.jpg)
You can see the same issue on the nearest corner in the 4th pic on onmybikedrunk's album (https://imgur.com/a/jadQU), more clearly than on my crap pictures. It's not very obvious in either case, but noticeable if you're looking closely.
Also, given the steel plate is just raw, unfinished stainless steel (laser cut, I think, judging by the marks on the back), I think I'll probably end up polishing it before I'm satisfied :).
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 19 October 2016, 23:00:56
Post by: wodan on Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:42:02
Don't want to finish assembl before I am sure I got the colors right ...
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:52:42
How do I configure the 8 status LEDs?
I don't quite get what you mean with configure, but the first three are Numlock, Capslock and Scrolllock. The other five are mainly used for the layers.
Post by: wodan on Thu, 20 October 2016, 23:55:35
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Fri, 21 October 2016, 00:10:48
Post by: wodan on Fri, 21 October 2016, 01:29:25
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 21 October 2016, 01:49:34
Okay one last issue I am having with the programmer. I can't seem to be able to map the cursor/arrow keys. They just show ? in the mapping GUI and will leave the key empty when I switch layers back and forth. Anyone else experiencing this?
You have to install the Korean language package to windows for this to work.
Post by: wodan on Fri, 21 October 2016, 01:55:24
But first ... here's two with the caps on and one with the caps off:
(http://i.imgur.com/1GvOijT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oUFC3Wa.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hsx6WRh.jpg)
Hope you like them. Switches are - of course - Vintage MX Blacks (45gr. springs)
Waiting for IMSTOs latest round of PBT DyeSubs to fill the numpad properly.
Post by: kenshinjeff on Fri, 21 October 2016, 04:02:36
Okay one last issue I am having with the programmer. I can't seem to be able to map the cursor/arrow keys. They just show ? in the mapping GUI and will leave the key empty when I switch layers back and forth. Anyone else experiencing this?
You have to install the Korean language package to windows for this to work.
Is this for windows 7 or windows 10? Cos I tried Locale Emulator and somehow it doesn't work when I choose Korean.
Post by: Moistgun on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:33:41
Post by: romevi on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:38:15
These korean boards are rilllllll sexy, but damn, why does programming them have to be so convoluted?
Programming a leeku PCB is a pain.
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:42:45
I thought it was ok but i wish there would be more control over the LEDs like brightness level and individual key lighting options.These korean boards are rilllllll sexy, but damn, why does programming them have to be so convoluted?
Programming a leeku PCB is a pain.
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Post by: dgneo on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:48:22
These korean boards are rilllllll sexy, but damn, why does programming them have to be so convoluted?
Programming a leeku PCB is a pain.
Wat? Took me all of 5 minutes with JigOn...
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:54:19
These korean boards are rilllllll sexy, but damn, why does programming them have to be so convoluted?
Programming a leeku PCB is a pain.
Wat? Took me all of 5 minutes with JigOn...
Yeah programming my CPSQ was way too easy haha
Post by: romevi on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:56:42
I thought it was ok but i wish there would be more control over the LEDs like brightness level and individual key lighting options.These korean boards are rilllllll sexy, but damn, why does programming them have to be so convoluted?
Programming a leeku PCB is a pain.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
DUDE, SAME!
WKL.kr's firmware was my favorite to use.
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:09:05
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Post by: breitling on Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:18:52
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 22 October 2016, 05:23:54
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 22 October 2016, 07:52:49
Post by: xondat on Sat, 22 October 2016, 09:05:35
where are my feet tho elton chanmanlook down
also I regret not joining this, as expected. R3? :'(
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 23 October 2016, 05:20:34
Post by: keyit on Sun, 23 October 2016, 17:01:26
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 24 October 2016, 01:40:59
Can someone tell me which key is the flip key? thnxLeft of numlock.
Post by: keyit on Mon, 24 October 2016, 19:54:05
edit: nvm bad soldering joint im dumb
Post by: breitling on Wed, 26 October 2016, 16:17:39
(http://i.imgur.com/rY57Wfi.jpg)
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 26 October 2016, 16:26:54
Finished assembling my Blackbird! Forgot I don't have an split plus key for the numpad so had to temporarily fill it with artisans. Damnit. Really like this keyset on this board so want to get those two keys.
That does look awesome - great build!! So ready for mine to arrive, come on wave 2! What key set is that black on grey? And fugus to the rescue- what can't those guys do (besides come to my house in a raffle win...)?
Post by: breitling on Wed, 26 October 2016, 16:30:39
That does look awesome - great build!! So ready for mine to arrive, come on wave 2! What key set is that black on grey? And fugus to the rescue- what can't those guys do (besides come to my house in a raffle win...)?
Thanks! yes.. Black on Grey.. or Black on Dark... whichever you prefer! Plus it has the Sky Dolch accent kit from Originative for the Control and Enter as well as the Alt/Altgr from CMYK Mods both GMK.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 26 October 2016, 16:36:24
Finished assembling my Blackbird! Forgot I don't have an split plus key for the numpad so had to temporarily fill it with artisans. Damnit. Really like this keyset on this board so want to get those two keys.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rY57Wfi.jpg)
Whoah, you mirrored my bottom row. Nice build!
Guess who is still waiting on Skeletor :( ?
Post by: breitling on Wed, 26 October 2016, 17:48:34
Whoah, you mirrored my bottom row. Nice build!
Guess who is still waiting on Skeletor :(?
Damn.. that's a long time for Skeletor.
I was going to go with a 7u spacebar but wasn't sure.. even this one I wasn't sure but it looks good I think.
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 27 October 2016, 03:10:20
Post by: oatsbagotes on Thu, 27 October 2016, 03:44:30
Err what's the bottom row layout for the HHKB version?Not exactly sure if this is what you're looking for but here
(http://cfile30.uf.tistory.com/image/246A7D4956EAA5EA0182BE)
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 27 October 2016, 03:56:26
I am also experiencing double typing very often, should I flash the chip?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 27 October 2016, 04:39:46
Is anyone experiencing weird stuff like drivers crash and stuff when you plug blackbird?
I am also experiencing double typing very often, should I flash the chip?
I experienced neither. Have you tried a different USB cable first? Sometimes those cause more trouble than they are worth, especially when you try flashing with a bad cable.
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 27 October 2016, 04:55:26
Is anyone experiencing weird stuff like drivers crash and stuff when you plug blackbird?
I am also experiencing double typing very often, should I flash the chip?
I experienced neither. Have you tried a different USB cable first? Sometimes those cause more trouble than they are worth, especially when you try flashing with a bad cable.
I'll give it a try later
But the cable has served me well for the last 3 years or so... And I have used many keyboards with it
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 27 October 2016, 06:07:50
I totally ****ed up my Spacebar stabilizer placement and realized after I soldered all the switches.Err what's the bottom row layout for the HHKB version?Not exactly sure if this is what you're looking for but hereShow Image(http://cfile30.uf.tistory.com/image/246A7D4956EAA5EA0182BE)
It was either resolder everything or add blue tac to the Spacebar itself to make it work. Or run with what I had and have a janky looking bottom row.
Went with the 2nd options. Probably give the proper fix sometime...not soon (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161027/bd8242b13a862b4d273159085e9cb08c.jpg)
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 27 October 2016, 06:49:02
I totally ****ed up my Spacebar stabilizer placement and realized after I soldered all the switches.
It was either resolder everything or add blue tac to the Spacebar itself to make it work. Or run with what I had and have a janky looking bottom row.
Oh god, that sucks, if it wasn't the HHKB version you could've gotten away with adjusting the rest of the bottom row.
I went with Holtite sockets because I'm still waiting on Zealios and Zeal Stabs, but couldn't just let it sit.
(https://puu.sh/rPzHL/7ec9a76a01.jpg)
I'm still shockingly bad at taking photos, but here is my current board:
(http://puu.sh/rXhCR/cc1848bfeb.jpg)(http://puu.sh/rXhDR/f1550f1ec4.jpg)(http://puu.sh/rXhEy/b6dfc4ec5e.jpg)
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 27 October 2016, 06:59:46
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/30478199582_6d5087e2b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG)
Blackbird - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8583/30595316215_2ab64b54de_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ)
Blackbird - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30295538650_592bb5815f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah)
Blackbird - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5614/29963103344_908b883501_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5)
Blackbird - 4 (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30295544320_b96ff6beac_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3)
Blackbird - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
Post by: redbanshee on Thu, 27 October 2016, 19:57:27
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x-posting :)
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/30478199582_6d5087e2b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG)
Blackbird - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8583/30595316215_2ab64b54de_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ)
Blackbird - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30295538650_592bb5815f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah)
Blackbird - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5614/29963103344_908b883501_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5)
Blackbird - 4 (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30295544320_b96ff6beac_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3)
Blackbird - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
Dank pics man!
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 27 October 2016, 20:48:56
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x-posting :)
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/30478199582_6d5087e2b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG)
Blackbird - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8583/30595316215_2ab64b54de_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ)
Blackbird - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30295538650_592bb5815f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah)
Blackbird - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5614/29963103344_908b883501_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5)
Blackbird - 4 (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30295544320_b96ff6beac_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3)
Blackbird - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
Damn jokrik.
Post by: -musubi on Fri, 28 October 2016, 02:12:55
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x-posting :)
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/30478199582_6d5087e2b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG)
Blackbird - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8583/30595316215_2ab64b54de_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ)
Blackbird - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30295538650_592bb5815f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah)
Blackbird - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5614/29963103344_908b883501_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5)
Blackbird - 4 (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30295544320_b96ff6beac_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3)
Blackbird - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
Man I'm such a fan of dark grey base tones. Looks awesome!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 28 October 2016, 22:28:29
Post by: SparrowHAWX on Sat, 29 October 2016, 12:43:55
Post by: kuang2 on Sat, 29 October 2016, 14:18:50
(http://i.imgur.com/bINCi3S.jpg)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 31 October 2016, 13:59:50
not finish yet, but it's so good to meShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/bINCi3S.jpg)
:-X
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 31 October 2016, 14:03:52
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(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/30478199582_6d5087e2b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG)
Blackbird - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8583/30595316215_2ab64b54de_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ)
Blackbird - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30295538650_592bb5815f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah)
Blackbird - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5614/29963103344_908b883501_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5)
Blackbird - 4 (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30295544320_b96ff6beac_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3)
Blackbird - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
Is this the GMK Skidata? :cool:
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 31 October 2016, 19:33:11
Show ImageShow ImageShow ImageShow Imagex-posting :)
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/30478199582_6d5087e2b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG)
Blackbird - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/NrfJTG) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8583/30595316215_2ab64b54de_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ)
Blackbird - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/NBAZzZ) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5766/30295538650_592bb5815f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah)
Blackbird - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7yah) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5614/29963103344_908b883501_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5)
Blackbird - 4 (https://flic.kr/p/MDJJJ5) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30295544320_b96ff6beac_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3)
Blackbird - 5 (https://flic.kr/p/Na7zR3) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr
Is this the GMK Skidata? :cool:
Yes it is :)
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 31 October 2016, 19:34:37
I managed to keymap the board once, and today decided to do some changes
It seems that the keyboard unable to boot into normal mode, the software shows that the keymapping process is done though :(
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 31 October 2016, 20:21:07
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 31 October 2016, 20:40:45
Long shot but anyone know the 3M PN for the included adhesive feet? They're pretty dope and I want them for my other boards.
Are those the little sticky clear ones?
Post by: oatsbagotes on Mon, 31 October 2016, 20:49:13
Post by: IneffableTao on Mon, 31 October 2016, 21:16:21
Long shot but anyone know the 3M PN for the included adhesive feet? They're pretty dope and I want them for my other boards.
Can someone take a pic of these feet? I work in my company's buying dept and we carry a lot of 3M hooks & adhesives - I might be able to get some insight here.
Post by: seblove on Tue, 01 November 2016, 03:23:50
I just reflashed the pcb with the newest firmware using Flip and nothing changed. I also inspected the pcb in the areas where the keys work properly and there's no discernible difference between those and the vast majority of the switches which are acting up. Strangely, all of the numbers on the numpad work perfectly, which seems like a controller issue of some sort? I have no clue. I think the most telling symptom is the fact that the switches actuate way before the leaf mechanism makes contact within the switch; I've never heard of anything like that before so if anyone has any insight I'd really appreciate it.
EDIT: Nvm, I replaced a couple of the switches with stock ones and they all work just fine. Must have bent the leafs or something silly when I was lubing ? Whatever. RIP my time.
Post by: R4WBIT on Tue, 01 November 2016, 03:42:42
Hey guys, would love some help on this. I finished soldering my board today and it's acting very strange - the majority of the switches in the 60% portion of the board actuate 3 or 4 times with each key press, and will actuate once with even the slightest tap on the top of the switch, way before the actuation point. The switches are all lubed zealios which were harvested from a previous build where they worked flawlessly. I know this sounds like a case of terrible soldering but this is probably my 12th board soldered and I've never had any issues, even with the notoriously sensitive leeku pcbs. I consider myself a relatively decent solderer... I've attached some pictures of my solders from this build.
I just reflashed the pcb with the newest firmware using Flip and nothing changed. I also inspected the pcb in the areas where the keys work properly and there's no discernible difference between those and the vast majority of the switches which are acting up. Strangely, all of the numbers on the numpad work perfectly, which seems like a controller issue of some sort? I have no clue. I think the most telling symptom is the fact that the switches actuate way before the leaf mechanism makes contact within the switch; I've never heard of anything like that before so if anyone has any insight I'd really appreciate it.
EDIT: Nvm, I replaced a couple of the switches with stock ones and they all work just fine. Must have bent the leafs or something silly when I was lubing ? Whatever. RIP my time.
It's called chatter and it happens on Zealios when you heat them up for too long when you solder. Here is a link describing the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3ywihq/keyboard_science_this_is_why_some_tactile_zealios/
Post by: seblove on Tue, 01 November 2016, 04:13:53
Hey guys, would love some help on this. I finished soldering my board today and it's acting very strange - the majority of the switches in the 60% portion of the board actuate 3 or 4 times with each key press, and will actuate once with even the slightest tap on the top of the switch, way before the actuation point. The switches are all lubed zealios which were harvested from a previous build where they worked flawlessly. I know this sounds like a case of terrible soldering but this is probably my 12th board soldered and I've never had any issues, even with the notoriously sensitive leeku pcbs. I consider myself a relatively decent solderer... I've attached some pictures of my solders from this build.
I just reflashed the pcb with the newest firmware using Flip and nothing changed. I also inspected the pcb in the areas where the keys work properly and there's no discernible difference between those and the vast majority of the switches which are acting up. Strangely, all of the numbers on the numpad work perfectly, which seems like a controller issue of some sort? I have no clue. I think the most telling symptom is the fact that the switches actuate way before the leaf mechanism makes contact within the switch; I've never heard of anything like that before so if anyone has any insight I'd really appreciate it.
EDIT: Nvm, I replaced a couple of the switches with stock ones and they all work just fine. Must have bent the leafs or something silly when I was lubing ? Whatever. RIP my time.
It's called chatter and it happens on Zealios when you heat them up for too long when you solder. Here is a link describing the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3ywihq/keyboard_science_this_is_why_some_tactile_zealios/
Oh nice! Thanks for the link. Makes sense they were desoldered out of the first build and then heated up again for the second.
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 01 November 2016, 09:28:19
EDIT: Nvm, I replaced a couple of the switches with stock ones and they all work just fine. Must have bent the leafs or something silly when I was lubing ? Whatever. RIP my time.
The bottom casing on Zealios melts like ice on a hot summer day. If you look at where the contacts enter the casing you will see that around the contacts enter the casing will be melted causing the entire leaf to move inside the switch, its not a symptom of you bending the leaves its the complete **** bottom casing that the zealios come in.
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 01 November 2016, 11:31:22
Long shot but anyone know the 3M PN for the included adhesive feet? They're pretty dope and I want them for my other boards.
Can someone take a pic of these feet? I work in my company's buying dept and we carry a lot of 3M hooks & adhesives - I might be able to get some insight here.
Thanks for looking into it! It feels like thin sorbothane.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZDuCIsc.jpg)
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 01 November 2016, 11:35:30
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 01 November 2016, 11:43:08
Long shot but anyone know the 3M PN for the included adhesive feet? They're pretty dope and I want them for my other boards.
Can someone take a pic of these feet? I work in my company's buying dept and we carry a lot of 3M hooks & adhesives - I might be able to get some insight here.
Ayy, a fellow member of the Purchasing life. Buying at work so we can buy at home.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 01 November 2016, 12:26:53
Long shot but anyone know the 3M PN for the included adhesive feet? They're pretty dope and I want them for my other boards.
Can someone take a pic of these feet? I work in my company's buying dept and we carry a lot of 3M hooks & adhesives - I might be able to get some insight here.
I would like to know this also, I need to replace the feet on my boards!
Post by: IneffableTao on Tue, 01 November 2016, 13:03:53
Thanks for looking into it! It feels like thin sorbothane.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZDuCIsc.jpg)
The buyer looked through their product catalog and has 2 thoughts on what it might be. If sold pre-cut then the only rectangular product that low in height would be SJ61B15 (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Electronics_NA/Electronics/Products/Electronics_Product_Catalog/~/3M-Bumpon-Protective-Product-SJ61B15-Black-3000-per-case?N=8704948+3294734845&rt=rud). However, based on the image they believe it's far more likely to be roll stock (purchased in a bulk roll and cut down which from a pricing perspective is at least 3x more cost efficient). We couldn't tell the thickness but guessed ~1/8 inch, which led to SJ5808 (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Electronics_NA/Electronics/Products/Electronics_Product_Catalog/~/Electronics-Products-Catalog/Cushioning-Materials/Bumpon-Products/?Ntt=sj5808&rt=rs&x=0&y=0).
I did a little cursory searching and didn't find much by way of consumer purchasing opportunities for either of these. Sadly the best deal on the rollstock looks to come from Grainger (https://www.grainger.com/product/45K760?gclid=CjwKEAjw-uDABRDPz4-0tp6T6lMSJADNoyPbYuHztnrKTFLQ8bDgvhuC-NsXci_ZXGW92iF61-l7BRoCZ3_w_wcB&cm_mmc=PPC:GOOGLEPLAA-_-Office%20Supplies-_-Office%20Organizers-_-45K760&AL!2966!3!50916763797!!!g!82166218797!&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916763797!!!g!82166218797!&ef_id=WAZyfAAAAQC5q@yx:20161101180224:s)at ~$71 USD
Post by: IneffableTao on Tue, 01 November 2016, 13:06:48
Ayy, a fellow member of the Purchasing life. Buying at work so we can buy at home.
I'm fortunately in an analytical and technical role, supporting the buying teams with reporting & insights. Very low stress position compared to the madness going on around me, as long as my data is accurate there's not much else I'm responsible for.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 01 November 2016, 13:30:46
Ayy, a fellow member of the Purchasing life. Buying at work so we can buy at home.
I'm fortunately in an analytical and technical role, supporting the buying teams with reporting & insights. Very low stress position compared to the madness going on around me, as long as my data is accurate there's not much else I'm responsible for.
Ah, I hear you. My company's Purchasing department isn't anywhere near big enough for folks to be specifically in that role, so we balance buying with the additional duties of sourcing and coordinating with everyone (engineering, production, shipping/receiving, cleanroom inspection, inventory, regulatory, sales) and it's like walking around on a delicate spiderweb. We all have our place and function and man, does it feel good to do it with a mechanical keyboard beneath our fingers.
On a more topical note, I'm loving the pictures of everyone's Black Birds being posted! Bummed I missed out on this, but also kind of glad, since the collection is starting to really be noticeable (even moreso when the GBs I'm in deliver). Keep the great photos coming!
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 01 November 2016, 14:37:14
Thanks for looking into it! It feels like thin sorbothane.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZDuCIsc.jpg)
The buyer looked through their product catalog and has 2 thoughts on what it might be. If sold pre-cut then the only rectangular product that low in height would be SJ61B15 (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Electronics_NA/Electronics/Products/Electronics_Product_Catalog/~/3M-Bumpon-Protective-Product-SJ61B15-Black-3000-per-case?N=8704948+3294734845&rt=rud). However, based on the image they believe it's far more likely to be roll stock (purchased in a bulk roll and cut down which from a pricing perspective is at least 3x more cost efficient). We couldn't tell the thickness but guessed ~1/8 inch, which led to SJ5808 (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Electronics_NA/Electronics/Products/Electronics_Product_Catalog/~/Electronics-Products-Catalog/Cushioning-Materials/Bumpon-Products/?Ntt=sj5808&rt=rs&x=0&y=0).
I did a little cursory searching and didn't find much by way of consumer purchasing opportunities for either of these. Sadly the best deal on the rollstock looks to come from Grainger (https://www.grainger.com/product/45K760?gclid=CjwKEAjw-uDABRDPz4-0tp6T6lMSJADNoyPbYuHztnrKTFLQ8bDgvhuC-NsXci_ZXGW92iF61-l7BRoCZ3_w_wcB&cm_mmc=PPC:GOOGLEPLAA-_-Office%20Supplies-_-Office%20Organizers-_-45K760&AL!2966!3!50916763797!!!g!82166218797!&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916763797!!!g!82166218797!&ef_id=WAZyfAAAAQC5q@yx:20161101180224:s)at ~$71 USD
Thank you again! :)
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 10:11:58
I expressed interest in doing so, but first I would need some accurate measurements and/or CAD files to give a firm answer. Does anyone here have any information that can point me in the right direction? Thank you.
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 03 November 2016, 10:32:52
Post by: widdlekitty on Thu, 03 November 2016, 11:07:06
Any news on the round 2 ship date/status?
I believe it was said that it would be aproximately 1 month after the first round shipment. The previous round shipped around Oct 13th, so probably another 10 days or so before it goes out the door.
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 03 November 2016, 11:09:35
Hello, I am the GB organizer for the Octagon V2 weight insert. I have been approached by several participants and asked whether I would be providing something similar for the Black Bird.Somebody please throw Merlin some measurements lets make the bird a bit more hefty
I expressed interest in doing so, but first I would need some accurate measurements and/or CAD files to give a firm answer. Does anyone here have any information that can point me in the right direction? Thank you.
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 11:24:54
Do you have a steel counter? I am afraid that if this thing gets heavier it will leave marks on my wooden table like my monitor does.Hello, I am the GB organizer for the Octagon V2 weight insert. I have been approached by several participants and asked whether I would be providing something similar for the Black Bird.Somebody please throw Merlin some measurements lets make the bird a bit more hefty
I expressed interest in doing so, but first I would need some accurate measurements and/or CAD files to give a firm answer. Does anyone here have any information that can point me in the right direction? Thank you.
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Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 03 November 2016, 13:26:25
Hello, I am the GB organizer for the Octagon V2 weight insert. I have been approached by several participants and asked whether I would be providing something similar for the Black Bird.
I expressed interest in doing so, but first I would need some accurate measurements and/or CAD files to give a firm answer. Does anyone here have any information that can point me in the right direction? Thank you.
I would love this to happen
Heard that cad was shared somewhere, been trying to find on ducks or kbdlab with no luck
Post by: oatsbagotes on Thu, 03 November 2016, 20:49:50
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Fri, 04 November 2016, 06:33:20
Hello, I am the GB organizer for the Octagon V2 weight insert. I have been approached by several participants and asked whether I would be providing something similar for the Black Bird.
I expressed interest in doing so, but first I would need some accurate measurements and/or CAD files to give a firm answer. Does anyone here have any information that can point me in the right direction? Thank you.
I'm definitely interested in getting a weight. I'm in on R2. If you haven't got measurements by then I'll get them for you when my board arrives.
Thanks for reaching out!
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Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 04 November 2016, 08:46:04
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85641.0
Thank you.
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 04 November 2016, 19:16:44
It is time for the 2nd batch to ship. LAST CALL FOR ADDRESS CHANGES!
I'll give everyone 24 hours
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 04 November 2016, 19:26:49
HelloWoohoo thanks for the much anticipated update Elton!
It is time for the 2nd batch to ship. LAST CALL FOR ADDRESS CHANGES!
I'll give everyone 24 hours
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Post by: alveeno on Sat, 05 November 2016, 22:46:49
Post by: widdlekitty on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:01:33
Anyone know how long it will take to arrive in the USA? Rough ETA?
Less than a week, once shipped.
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:06:33
Hello
It is time for the 2nd batch to ship. LAST CALL FOR ADDRESS CHANGES!
I'll give everyone 24 hours
nice
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 07 November 2016, 21:53:17
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 08 November 2016, 12:39:46
Ship ship ship juju bump
Agreed. Hopefully they've shipped already given that 24 hour warning from Elton.
Post by: breitling on Tue, 08 November 2016, 14:39:03
(http://i.imgur.com/rWIHOT7.jpg)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 10 November 2016, 19:57:41
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 11 November 2016, 00:55:32
I wonder if round two has shipped yet...
Haha, I'm having nightmares that it will arrive while I'm away for Thanksgiving.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 13 November 2016, 00:34:52
(http://i.imgur.com/xZtVpqy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XByff4d.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Qr0O1tn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5PAr6pM.jpg)
Post by: jal on Mon, 14 November 2016, 09:15:23
I wonder if round two has shipped yet...
Haha, I'm having nightmares that it will arrive while I'm away for Thanksgiving.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bZr5ca8P6Cbnli7XTZ7WHSkcUaKtJxZslLyAnPFiFbY/pubhtml?gid=1360862044&single=true
According to the bookkeeping link, no.
Post by: MrDaddio on Mon, 14 November 2016, 10:40:07
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 16 November 2016, 02:54:52
Where did Elton go:(Don't worry, he'll be back. He always comes back. ;D
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 16 November 2016, 03:53:20
Where did Elton go:(Don't worry, he'll be back. He always comes back. ;D
Thats what mom said :'( Now I'm a stripper addicted to crazy things like keyboards. Flashbacks, ahhh
Post by: gaiden on Wed, 16 November 2016, 03:58:39
Wow im interested in seeing your stripper keyset to go with that exotic keyboard you haveWhere did Elton go:(Don't worry, he'll be back. He always comes back. ;D
Thats what mom said :'( Now I'm a stripper addicted to crazy things like keyboards. Flashbacks, ahhh
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 18 November 2016, 11:47:39
Post by: oatsbagotes on Fri, 18 November 2016, 14:47:46
Something is very wrong with by board. When I press the FLIP key in normal use strange stuff happens, depending on how I press it. If I press it slowly nothing happens, if I press it fast once RGB LED8 and 9 turn off, and when I press it fast repeatedly RGB LED10 also turns off. I doubt anyone knows what is going on, but maybe someone can help me with troubleshooting.Mine has done that since the day I received mine but I thought nothing of it so I just left it. I also left the firmware stock and haven't touched it with O2D to change anything yet as well. I dont know the exact LED's since I haven't taken it apart but its the lights facing me to the right.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 18 November 2016, 15:01:12
Something is very wrong with by board. When I press the FLIP key in normal use strange stuff happens, depending on how I press it. If I press it slowly nothing happens, if I press it fast once RGB LED8 and 9 turn off, and when I press it fast repeatedly RGB LED10 also turns off. I doubt anyone knows what is going on, but maybe someone can help me with troubleshooting.Mine has done that since the day I received mine but I thought nothing of it so I just left it. I also left the firmware stock and haven't touched it with O2D to change anything yet as well. I dont know the exact LED's since I haven't taken it apart but its the lights facing me to the right.
Jup, exactly those LED's are the ones... Strange. I hope it's just a firmware issue that will be fixed down the road.
Post by: oatsbagotes on Fri, 18 November 2016, 17:59:24
Post by: Weiss on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:18:45
Can someone familiar with the firmware help me out, whenever I go to upload my board and connect the "file open" stays blank and the "upload" as well. I've never used Ducks firmware and I am very confused. I cant seem to get it to work on my Octagon or Blackbird
From my experience, that means you haven't connected the keyboard while holding the FLIP key. Try disconnecting your board and holding the FLIP key, then plugging it back in while that FLIP key is pressed. The Octagon's FLIP key is the top right most key, but I'm not sure about the Blackbird's.
Post by: oatsbagotes on Sat, 19 November 2016, 06:29:35
Post by: widdlekitty on Sun, 20 November 2016, 19:30:08
Post by: tuco on Sun, 20 November 2016, 19:54:57
Second batch tracking info was added to the sheet.
Awesome! Looks like mine already made it state-side, should be here soon. Drooling...
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Sun, 20 November 2016, 20:04:07
Second batch tracking info was added to the sheet.
Hells yeah! Can't wait!
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sun, 20 November 2016, 20:19:00
Post by: alveeno on Sun, 20 November 2016, 20:29:12
Post by: SixtyLife on Sun, 20 November 2016, 23:32:26
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 21 November 2016, 01:09:39
whenever I go to save my custom layout I just get a runtime error 76 "no path found" and it doesn't save my layout and closes out the program. I know how to do the flip keys but I feel like im missing something very obvious.You have to change the file name... So for instance you might get a "Save As" filename that looks like 02D_Custom_v1.9.640_BlackBird_11/20/2016_230709.hex . Change this to something simple, like "blackbird" and click save. It will then save the file to the destination where the exe is located. I'm pretty familiar with the process if you need more help, PM me.
Post by: oatsbagotes on Mon, 21 November 2016, 10:33:40
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 21 November 2016, 15:11:44
Maybe I'll build and just desolder later on :))
edit- ahhh notice left because nobody was home, guess I won't get it til Wednesday anyway, haha.
Post by: alveeno on Mon, 21 November 2016, 17:38:11
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 22 November 2016, 01:38:34
Is there a guide to the firmware?On page 8 - Post #376 to #383 it's discussed. Look at the PDF linked in #383 it's spot on. Make sure you're using the newest edition of 02D
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 22 November 2016, 01:39:47
Post by: Waateva on Tue, 22 November 2016, 09:01:46
Anyone have any idea of when Viper/Eagle is gonna go up?
Based on what others have said which was based on previous Duck GBs, probably a month or two from now.
Post by: cheesybreadstick on Tue, 22 November 2016, 13:27:58
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 22 November 2016, 14:17:09
Ok Guys! I noticed that some of the tracking numbers are mixed up. I'm one of the people that changed their shipping address last minute so I'm guessing that is what is the cause of the mix-up. If your package associated with your tracking number seems to be in some random place that's not yours, you might wanna check other people's tracking numbers in the google docs page. For example, I found my shipping address to be in SixtyLife's slot! So don't panic like I did at first. :pgood catch.. was pretty confused why my item was out for delivery from stockton but didn't think too much of it as it's not tooo far.
anyways, happy to say I got mine today safe and sound in bulletproof packaging. thanks Elton and Duck for the smoother than a baby's buttcheek GB.
(http://i.imgur.com/BrRTDJV.jpg)
Post by: jal on Tue, 22 November 2016, 16:03:52
Post by: tuco on Tue, 22 November 2016, 18:34:47
Post by: m1kehonch0 on Tue, 22 November 2016, 21:14:29
You have a repeat customer here.
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Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 23 November 2016, 09:46:11
Duck has provided me with the CAD files for the weight insert for the Black Bird. I'm manufacturing a prototype right now and I am looking for anyone nearby who would be willing to test fit (I don't have a black bird). I live in Seattle WA, USA. Please send me a PM or post in my IC if you're able to. Thanks.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 23 November 2016, 12:16:32
Putting a message out here to see if I can get some help.
Duck has provided me with the CAD files for the weight insert for the Black Bird. I'm manufacturing a prototype right now and I am looking for anyone nearby who would be willing to test fit (I don't have a black bird). I live in Seattle WA, USA. Please send me a PM or post in my IC if you're able to. Thanks.
Dropped a line in the IC
Post by: tuco on Wed, 23 November 2016, 15:44:47
Duck definitely sets the bar high for packaging, it was just ridiculously well packaged.
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 24 November 2016, 03:36:15
Post by: Pemdas on Thu, 24 November 2016, 03:54:27
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5478/31067361562_450658e319_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PkjmdS)
Duck Black Bird (https://flic.kr/p/PkjmdS) by thosepeoples (https://www.flickr.com/photos/86496414@N00/), on Flickr
Another amazing board! Put together way differently than the Orion or Octagon, it's cool to see the version changes :)
Thanks Duck and thanks Elton! Can't wait for the Viper/Eagle buy :thumb:
Oh and a build log for anyone interested
http://imgur.com/a/W9xs2
Post by: tuco on Thu, 24 November 2016, 19:22:19
Thanks!
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Post by: oatsbagotes on Thu, 24 November 2016, 20:01:25
This is the latest keymapper i believe. I used this to do mine. its from an older reply some pages back on this post
Post by: tuco on Thu, 24 November 2016, 20:38:16
http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=3954395&sid=49545b3e2ea4d6da5b724407c81b8c12
This is the latest keymapper i believe. I used this to do mine. its from an older reply some pages back on this post
Thanks!
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 21:26:37
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 28 November 2016, 21:33:18
Hi guys, Viper/Eagle V2 GB is coming up shortly!
Oh my, thanks for the update!
Post by: ViệtNV on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:28:47
Post by: MrDaddio on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:05:31
Having issues figuring out how to program my Blackbird
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:16:57
What is the button to depress when trying to enter DFU mode?
Having issues figuring out how to program my Blackbird
The one left of numlock.
Post by: alveeno on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:20:46
What is the button to depress when trying to enter DFU mode?
Having issues figuring out how to program my Blackbird
The key with the v2 is the button to depress to enter DFU.
(http://i.imgur.com/CzL1Ted.png)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:43:44
Post by: alveeno on Wed, 30 November 2016, 03:07:24
Mind sharing your layout, I too have the HHKB layout and am not sure the best way to set it up.
I assume you meant firmware wise since I saw your post on r/mk :P
(http://i.imgur.com/AZZdSFc.png)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 10 December 2016, 15:31:35
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 10 December 2016, 15:40:36
If anyone with acrylic plate wants to sell or change for SS plate, let me know.
There never was an acrylic plate offered in this GB
Post by: alveeno on Sat, 10 December 2016, 18:44:49
Hey, so i am trying to do the key map for my blackbird. I downloaded the mapper above and selected the blackbird drop down option, but i am confused how i save the hex then put it on the board!
I basically have it to the point where i built a layout, and have the file saved, but when i try to firmware update it, i get the dfu error. I have all of the files in one folder because i had read earlier that that part was a crucial step. i can get pics if that would help /;
To save the hex file, you have to rename it to something different from the default naming scheme.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 10 December 2016, 18:48:55
If anyone with acrylic plate wants to sell or change for SS plate, let me know.
There never was an acrylic plate offered in this GB
You are absolutely right... I remember seeing it on Duck's blog and I thought it must have been offered in the buy. :(
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 10 December 2016, 22:10:11
If anyone has a black Blackbird they're selling please let me know. I'll even pay a premium for one that has R4 Zealios in it as I'd rather not desolder the switches.
Thanks!
Post by: maximm on Sun, 11 December 2016, 07:23:26
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 11 December 2016, 10:43:56
Post by: romevi on Sun, 11 December 2016, 21:50:07
"pay a premium" you will do, these go for about $600 on r/MM.
What about everywhere else?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:50:13
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 28 December 2016, 16:35:21
1. Can I sip socket the function layer indicators at the top left of the PCB?
2. If not, how do I tell positive from negative for the LED on the PCB? I see one side of "circle" is flat and the other round but just want to double check.
Post by: Weiss on Wed, 28 December 2016, 20:46:26
Two questions:
1. Can I sip socket the function layer indicators at the top left of the PCB?
2. If not, how do I tell positive from negative for the LED on the PCB? I see one side of "circle" is flat and the other round but just want to double check.
Unfortunately I can't give any help for the 2nd question, but I can say that I had my Octagon v2 installed with SIPs in the indicator LED section.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 28 December 2016, 22:47:09
Two questions:
1. Can I sip socket the function layer indicators at the top left of the PCB?
2. If not, how do I tell positive from negative for the LED on the PCB? I see one side of "circle" is flat and the other round but just want to double check.
Unfortunately I can't give any help for the 2nd question, but I can say that I had my Octagon v2 installed with SIPs in the indicator LED section.
Ya, I also thought I saw a build guide by someone here that put sip sockets on the indicators but I seem to be lame at finding it. Thanks for your input.
Post by: nevaenuf on Thu, 29 December 2016, 00:57:56
Post by: Oatburner on Thu, 29 December 2016, 01:58:14
Two questions:
1. Can I sip socket the function layer indicators at the top left of the PCB?
2. If not, how do I tell positive from negative for the LED on the PCB? I see one side of "circle" is flat and the other round but just want to double check.
One side will be different, like you mentioned. Usually one pin is square, the other round. It depends on the board, I've seen square be anode or cathode. Just plug in the PCB and touch the LED to the pads both ways, and it will light up when you've got it right.
Post by: trexous on Thu, 29 December 2016, 03:29:44
Post by: wodan on Thu, 29 December 2016, 03:38:31
Is there ever going to be another run of this? :(
Probably, but not anytime soon. Almost all of the Duck designs have had a V2 or even V3.
Post by: trexous on Thu, 29 December 2016, 04:12:14
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 04:27:37
Does anyone know the functions for the led indicators? There's a cluster of three and then another cluster of five. My guess for the three are num lock, scroll lock, and caps lock, but in what order. Also, what are the additional five?
From left to right: NumLock, CapsLock, ScrollLock, Layer1, Layer2, Layer3, Layer4, SomeFirmwareSpecificIndicator
Post by: kmba on Fri, 30 December 2016, 09:26:29
That gives me hope!
yup, probably in a few years. :-\
Post by: nevaenuf on Fri, 30 December 2016, 09:30:29
Does anyone know the functions for the led indicators? There's a cluster of three and then another cluster of five. My guess for the three are num lock, scroll lock, and caps lock, but in what order. Also, what are the additional five?
From left to right: NumLock, CapsLock, ScrollLock, Layer1, Layer2, Layer3, Layer4, SomeFirmwareSpecificIndicator
Thanks!
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 30 December 2016, 09:53:25
1) i see 'layer' and 'fn' i thought they were the same thing what is the difference between them?
2) is 'mfn' is set to access fn1?
3) can someone list the entire process in a few bullet points? Like amy button to hild before connecting to the pc. And/or should there be any thing else install besides o2d and dfu. I found apploc.msi but cant install it on pc (not supported)
I have used WKL keymapper and JigOn both seems much easier than o2d.. Anyways thanks in advance.
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 30 December 2016, 10:23:07
Hi guys I'm new to o2d and have sone questions on editing keymap with o2d keymapper.
1) i see 'layer' and 'fn' i thought they were the same thing what is the difference between them?
2) is 'mfn' is set to access fn1?
3) can someone list the entire process in a few bullet points? Like amy button to hild before connecting to the pc. And/or should there be any thing else install besides o2d and dfu. I found apploc.msi but cant install it on pc (not supported)
I have used WKL keymapper and JigOn both seems much easier than o2d.. Anyways thanks in advance.
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1) Every base layer has a FN layer each
2) I think MFN opens the corresponding FN layer, say you are currently on layer 3 and press MFN it will open FN3
3) Hold the top button of the two extra keys above the arrows while connecting to enter DFU mode. You only need 02dprog and DFU in the same folder(and ofc the Atmel drivers installed). Flashing is very easy, after you are done with the Firmware you save it, then you connect the board in DFU mode and after that you press Firmware upload.
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 30 December 2016, 11:32:31
Thanks for the info! Learning how to edit layout with Duck board has be quite frustrating... I have used WKL and JigOn before and i never need specific instructions like this. They were very intuitive and user friendly..Hi guys I'm new to o2d and have sone questions on editing keymap with o2d keymapper.
1) i see 'layer' and 'fn' i thought they were the same thing what is the difference between them?
2) is 'mfn' is set to access fn1?
3) can someone list the entire process in a few bullet points? Like amy button to hild before connecting to the pc. And/or should there be any thing else install besides o2d and dfu. I found apploc.msi but cant install it on pc (not supported)
I have used WKL keymapper and JigOn both seems much easier than o2d.. Anyways thanks in advance.
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1) Every base layer has a FN layer each
2) I think MFN opens the corresponding FN layer, say you are currently on layer 3 and press MFN it will open FN3
3) Hold the top button of the two extra keys above the arrows while connecting to enter DFU mode. You only need 02dprog and DFU in the same folder(and ofc the Atmel drivers installed). Flashing is very easy, after you are done with the Firmware you save it, then you connect the board in DFU mode and after that you press Firmware upload.
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Post by: Jeu on Fri, 30 December 2016, 12:15:16
Post by: Jeu on Fri, 30 December 2016, 13:08:50
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 30 December 2016, 13:11:56
Must you install the atmel drivers prior to plugging in the pcb? I think it installed the one time I got it working but maybe that would help it recognize?
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If you want to program it I'd do a fresh install of the atmel drivers before connecting the PCB. If you only want to use it it should be plug and play.
Post by: Jeu on Fri, 30 December 2016, 13:46:09
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 30 December 2016, 14:05:41
Would you be able to point me towards the correct drivers? I tried DFU mode so many times I guess a fresh restart would be a good place to go.
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I am using the same drivers that were installed when I installed QMK Firmware Flasher (https://github.com/jackhumbert/qmk_firmware_flasher/releases) and it did work for me. If that doesn't work the newest version of Atmel Flip should also include the newest drivers.
Post by: smittysteve on Fri, 30 December 2016, 14:19:24
Not having done it myself yet, I can't offer any more pragmatic advice. But I hope this helps you now and me next week. :)
Post by: Jeu on Fri, 30 December 2016, 14:49:36
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Post by: Jeu on Sun, 01 January 2017, 23:35:09
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 05 January 2017, 01:19:20
Post by: Jeu on Thu, 05 January 2017, 12:27:54
Someone posted in Octagon V2 thread of problems with Zeal s tabs and a Duck PCB. Has anyone used Zeal stabs for their Blackbird yet? Specifically a location where a trace passes around a screw in holeI used zeal stabs in mine and all the keys work in key tester and word. Just waiting on a new USB to fix all these crazy issues I was having above! Maybe the octagon pcb has different traces that was a problem for them only
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 05 January 2017, 12:56:16
Someone posted in Octagon V2 thread of problems with Zeal s tabs and a Duck PCB. Has anyone used Zeal stabs for their Blackbird yet? Specifically a location where a trace passes around a screw in holeI used zeal stabs in mine and all the keys work in key tester and word. Just waiting on a new USB to fix all these crazy issues I was having above! Maybe the octagon pcb has different traces that was a problem for them only
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Ya, I figured that would most likely be the case. Just wanted to double check since today is solder day and finding out later would be a pain. Elton getting you a new USB connector for the pcb or do you mean new USB cord?
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 05 January 2017, 13:23:50
Someone posted in Octagon V2 thread of problems with Zeal s tabs and a Duck PCB. Has anyone used Zeal stabs for their Blackbird yet? Specifically a location where a trace passes around a screw in holeI used zeal stabs in mine and all the keys work in key tester and word. Just waiting on a new USB to fix all these crazy issues I was having above! Maybe the octagon pcb has different traces that was a problem for them only
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Ya, I figured that would most likely be the case. Just wanted to double check since today is solder day and finding out later would be a pain. Elton getting you a new USB connector for the pcb or do you mean new USB cord?
I think to be safe, just put some tape/vinyl before you screw in the stabs regardless.
Post by: Jeu on Thu, 05 January 2017, 13:51:08
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 05 January 2017, 15:02:56
Hey guys! I am currently running a GB for weights for this board! Come check it out!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86707.0
Please submit your replies to this post in the above mentioned thread =).
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 06 January 2017, 00:19:52
Also, can't seem to program a tilde and forward apostrophe (?) for a split backspace. On the selection portion it shows just an apostrophe but I get no output on the keyboard when i press that key.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 06 January 2017, 07:07:17
Ok, everything programmed, yet one question remains. How the hell do I take the in switch LED's off pulse?
Also, can't seem to program a tilde and forward apostrophe (?) for a split backspace. On the selection portion it shows just an apostrophe but I get no output on the keyboard when i press that key.
The LED modes are set through the LED control binds. LED Arrow cycles through the LED modes for the arrow keys, LED modi for the Modifiers, etc. while going through these modes you will see that the brightness will change in other regions, this is normal. After you found the mode you want for every region you press the LED Ctrl key, then you press LED Arrow, then LED Modi, then LED Alph and then LED Pad. Now all LED's should be on and you will be able to set the brightness with LED Up and LED Down, I'd suggest you go all the way down first, because that sets the different regions to the same start value. After you found your perfect brightness press LED Ctrl again and you are done.
No idea on the tilde thingy, my keymap looks like this (pic under this line) and it works for me.
(http://puu.sh/td410/4e68d32a38.png)
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 06 January 2017, 12:03:49
Ok, everything programmed, yet one question remains. How the hell do I take the in switch LED's off pulse?
Also, can't seem to program a tilde and forward apostrophe (?) for a split backspace. On the selection portion it shows just an apostrophe but I get no output on the keyboard when i press that key.
The LED modes are set through the LED control binds. LED Arrow cycles through the LED modes for the arrow keys, LED modi for the Modifiers, etc. while going through these modes you will see that the brightness will change in other regions, this is normal. After you found the mode you want for every region you press the LED Ctrl key, then you press LED Arrow, then LED Modi, then LED Alph and then LED Pad. Now all LED's should be on and you will be able to set the brightness with LED Up and LED Down, I'd suggest you go all the way down first, because that sets the different regions to the same start value. After you found your perfect brightness press LED Ctrl again and you are done.
No idea on the tilde thingy, my keymap looks like this (pic under this line) and it works for me.Show Image(http://puu.sh/td410/4e68d32a38.png)
Thanks. It looks so simple .
Gonna have to check solder job on the tilde unfortunately.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 25 January 2017, 13:42:19
Edit: Well, just played around with the LED's for awhile, changed modes back and forth and now they stop slowly fading. I'm an idiot, pay no attention to me. It was an LED mode that for some reason I didn't notice with the UV LED's.
Post by: Jeu on Sat, 28 January 2017, 11:24:18
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 28 January 2017, 11:27:57
Just to be sure, there is no way to reduce brightness on the blackbird right? just on or off and the various modes?
I explained how to do it a few posts up.
Post by: Jeu on Sat, 28 January 2017, 11:54:05
EDIT: You are spot on Kawasaki thanks.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:04:24
Post by: CMYK on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:02:06
Post by: Jeu on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:13:46
I bought and built a Blackbird, and I had some questions for the people with more experience with keyboards? What is the 8th led on the top left corner for? As far as I can tell the order of the LED are Num lock, Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, Layer1, Layer 2, Layer 3, Layer 4, and ????. I used sip sockets, but I can't seem to get it to light up. I accidentally hit with my soldering iron, and it lit up, but I'm not sure why. How many leds are supposed to light up when you push the fn button? What is the difference between MFN, and FN1 when programming the board?
This was my first so not a whole lot more experience :P The 8th LED is a firmware indicator light, basically it just lights up during programming steps i.e. LED configurations and when the board starts up. When I hit Fn from layer 1 the LEDs for layer 2-4 all light up. MFN seems to cycle through the Fn layers consecutively with each press of it until you hit another key. I THINK it's like master Fn. Fn1 is the function layer corresponding to Fn layer 1 on the O2D layout. As for the LEDs and sips I don't know. Does it light up at all when you plug in the usb or when trying to change the LED modes?
Post by: CMYK on Thu, 02 February 2017, 23:25:29
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 02 February 2017, 23:31:14
Thanks for the info. I updated my layout, and changed MFN to FN1. The LEDs for Layer 2-4 light up the same as you. My 8th LED does light up, and turn off after I plug it in. I still haven't figured out how to change LED modes, but it looks like everything is working. I felt like I did a poor job soldering, but everything seems to work. Are Duck pcb's fragile? I was soldering at 650f, and lifted half a pad without intending to.
Did you read the LED walk through from kawasaki? I press Fn 4 times to get into the layer where I can change LED modes. When I press Esc while in this layer, the last LED lights up. I'm not an expert nor do I regularly use function layers but this is my experience. The LED info is just a few posts up.
Post by: CMYK on Thu, 02 February 2017, 23:53:58
Post by: Shados on Fri, 03 March 2017, 19:09:06
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 03 March 2017, 19:28:07
I'll get around to posting a full build log and better pictures later, but thought I'd share this (https://shados.net/files/blackbird-jtk_oob_1.jpg) for now. Took me so long to build because I had the switch plate polished to a mirror finish and electroplated in gold, which took a while (the plating company has a long lead time for small jobs like this). Caps are JTK Sophomore orange on black; someone needs to make a good gold/yellow-on-black set I can use.
As seemingly excessive as that plate work you had done is, I must admit it gives the backlight some really great glow. It looks wonderful.
Post by: CMYK on Sat, 04 March 2017, 00:25:16
I'll get around to posting a full build log and better pictures later, but thought I'd share this (https://shados.net/files/blackbird-jtk_oob_1.jpg) for now. Took me so long to build because I had the switch plate polished to a mirror finish and electroplated in gold, which took a while (the plating company has a long lead time for small jobs like this). Caps are JTK Sophomore orange on black; someone needs to make a good gold/yellow-on-black set I can use.
That is some fantastic work. I love the back lighting, and how the texture, and color of the keycaps match the casework. I should have configured my bottom row to be that way.
Post by: Jeu on Sat, 04 March 2017, 00:41:59
I'll get around to posting a full build log and better pictures later, but thought I'd share this (https://shados.net/files/blackbird-jtk_oob_1.jpg) for now. Took me so long to build because I had the switch plate polished to a mirror finish and electroplated in gold, which took a while (the plating company has a long lead time for small jobs like this). Caps are JTK Sophomore orange on black; someone needs to make a good gold/yellow-on-black set I can use.Jchan teased a Electric set in his Pyro IC thread sometime a few sets down the line...would be great. Beautiful bird.
Post by: poolside on Sat, 04 March 2017, 07:18:26
I'll get around to posting a full build log and better pictures later, but thought I'd share this (https://shados.net/files/blackbird-jtk_oob_1.jpg) for now. Took me so long to build because I had the switch plate polished to a mirror finish and electroplated in gold, which took a while (the plating company has a long lead time for small jobs like this). Caps are JTK Sophomore orange on black; someone needs to make a good gold/yellow-on-black set I can use.
Looking good on that wooden desk! :thumb:
Post by: zacheadams on Mon, 06 March 2017, 15:29:26
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 10 March 2017, 01:15:41
Post by: trexous on Wed, 15 March 2017, 15:54:50
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:31:31
I've had an odd thing happen to my Blackbird today- spontaneously 90% of the RGB LEDs are no longer working!! I didn't change any settings or do anything at all. Just working at my desk and noticed all of a sudden I'm far less bright (the keyboard that is...). Keyboard is working fine (typing this on it now), switch LEDs are on, controls on function layer are responsive, I just have fewer LEDs working. No freaking clue what to try for troubleshooting. I reflashed the firmware and my keymap with Atmel Flip just for fun to see if that could rescue it, but I'm stumped as to what could have happened.
Thanks for anything you can suggest to try. Anyone seen anything similar with a Duck board in the past?
Edit: pics
(http://i.imgur.com/ttbMtSm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ESFRGjw.jpg)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:37:29
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:39:48
Try turning off the backlit LEDs for the keys and see if that does anything.
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately nothing different.
I should also add, when I plug in the board, I see all the RGB LEDs do a fast flash, so I know they are there and (theoretically) operational...
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:43:46
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Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:55:46
Is there a Reset to Default option?
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Not that I can see. If anyone knows of a way to hard reset, please let me know.
I've opened her up and there is just one lonely RGB LED firing. So sad!
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:58:14
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 13 April 2017, 16:06:59
Is there a Reset to Default option?
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Not that I can see. If anyone knows of a way to hard reset, please let me know.
I've opened her up and there is just one lonely RGB LED firing. So sad!
I thought you were talking about the in switch LED in your PM, not faulty SMD LED. Or maybe you're having a problem with both? I had an issue where one rgb led was getting stuck on green. I just kept flashing different hex files and backlighting colors then running through the lighting modes and eventually it got unstuck. Haven't had a problem since. If they are completely off, I'd check soldering.
Good luck!
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 16:09:50
Is there a Reset to Default option?
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Not that I can see. If anyone knows of a way to hard reset, please let me know.
I've opened her up and there is just one lonely RGB LED firing. So sad!
I thought you were talking about the in switch LED in your PM, not faulty SMD LED. Or maybe you're having a problem with both? I had an issue where one rgb led was getting stuck on green. I just kept flashing different hex files and backlighting colors then running through the lighting modes and eventually it got unstuck. Haven't had a problem since. If they are completely off, I'd check soldering.
Good luck!
Thanks man. Actually problems with both today- been a rough Blackbird day!!
RGBs are completely off other than LED1. Looking at the soldering, nothing seems amiss... but I'll keep investigating!
Thanks to all for the suggestions!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 13 April 2017, 16:29:25
RGBs are completely off other than LED1. Looking at the soldering, nothing seems amiss... but I'll keep investigating!
Well, then the chances are good (or bad, depends on your interpretation) that only one LED is broken. If the signal is lost at one point (which can happen with dead LEDs) all LEDs chained in afterwards won't work. You could try soldering in a new LED, maybe you can also work out a jumper wire instead, but I'm not sure if it works.
Also, this is how you reset your user settings (LED modes, etc.)
Quote
3. Basic Initialization Setting (EEPROM ALL CLEAR)
Change the setting status of each function, LED effect, macro, key lock, hot key, etc. to the initial setting.
Static hardware macros ( SM01 to SM20 ) and key mappings set by the mapping program are not changed.
3-1. Press C / M key to enter control mode
3-2. E , A , C , ENTER , type
3-3. Keyboard restarts automatically after initialization process
The quote is from the original documentation (DIRECT!!! dl: http://puu.sh/vjlL8/b3d849a69e.html) It's in Korean, but Google translate works suprisingly well with this document, most of it is understandable, but sometimes it tries translating stuff it shouldn't translate. If something (mainly happens with keycombos) seems really off look at the original, it's often something that wasn't written in Korean to begin with.
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 16:45:01
RGBs are completely off other than LED1. Looking at the soldering, nothing seems amiss... but I'll keep investigating!
Well, then the chances are good (or bad, depends on your interpretation) that only one LED is broken. If the signal is lost at one point (which can happen with dead LEDs) all LEDs chained in afterwards won't work. You could try soldering in a new LED, maybe you can also work out a jumper wire instead, but I'm not sure if it works.
Also, this is how you reset your user settings (LED modes, etc.)Quote3. Basic Initialization Setting (EEPROM ALL CLEAR)
Change the setting status of each function, LED effect, macro, key lock, hot key, etc. to the initial setting.
Static hardware macros ( SM01 to SM20 ) and key mappings set by the mapping program are not changed.
3-1. Press C / M key to enter control mode
3-2. E , A , C , ENTER , type
3-3. Keyboard restarts automatically after initialization process
The quote is from the original documentation (DIRECT!!! dl: http://puu.sh/vjlL8/b3d849a69e.html) It's in Korean, but Google translate works suprisingly well with this document, most of it is understandable, but sometimes it tries translating stuff it shouldn't translate. If something (mainly happens with keycombos) seems really off look at the original, it's often something that wasn't written in Korean to begin with.
Thanks very much for the assistance, kawasaki, I appreciate it!
Looks like RGB LED2 is the likely culprit. When plugging in, I mentioned that all the RGBs give a quick flash, but LED2 doesn't even do that. Hoping changing that out does the trick... I'll update when successfully fixed! :thumb:
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 17:39:25
RGBs are completely off other than LED1. Looking at the soldering, nothing seems amiss... but I'll keep investigating!
Well, then the chances are good (or bad, depends on your interpretation) that only one LED is broken. If the signal is lost at one point (which can happen with dead LEDs) all LEDs chained in afterwards won't work. You could try soldering in a new LED, maybe you can also work out a jumper wire instead, but I'm not sure if it works.
Also, this is how you reset your user settings (LED modes, etc.)Quote3. Basic Initialization Setting (EEPROM ALL CLEAR)
Change the setting status of each function, LED effect, macro, key lock, hot key, etc. to the initial setting.
Static hardware macros ( SM01 to SM20 ) and key mappings set by the mapping program are not changed.
3-1. Press C / M key to enter control mode
3-2. E , A , C , ENTER , type
3-3. Keyboard restarts automatically after initialization process
The quote is from the original documentation (DIRECT!!! dl: http://puu.sh/vjlL8/b3d849a69e.html) It's in Korean, but Google translate works suprisingly well with this document, most of it is understandable, but sometimes it tries translating stuff it shouldn't translate. If something (mainly happens with keycombos) seems really off look at the original, it's often something that wasn't written in Korean to begin with.
Thanks very much for the assistance, kawasaki, I appreciate it!
Looks like RGB LED2 is the likely culprit. When plugging in, I mentioned that all the RGBs give a quick flash, but LED2 doesn't even do that. Hoping changing that out does the trick... I'll update when successfully fixed! :thumb:
My local electronics shop was a no-go. Anyone know a part number or better yet source for these RGB LEDs?
Thanks very much- I appreciate the help!
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 13 April 2017, 18:13:17
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Post by: KetchyKech on Fri, 14 April 2017, 09:42:35
RGBs are completely off other than LED1. Looking at the soldering, nothing seems amiss... but I'll keep investigating!
Well, then the chances are good (or bad, depends on your interpretation) that only one LED is broken. If the signal is lost at one point (which can happen with dead LEDs) all LEDs chained in afterwards won't work. You could try soldering in a new LED, maybe you can also work out a jumper wire instead, but I'm not sure if it works.
Also, this is how you reset your user settings (LED modes, etc.)Quote3. Basic Initialization Setting (EEPROM ALL CLEAR)
Change the setting status of each function, LED effect, macro, key lock, hot key, etc. to the initial setting.
Static hardware macros ( SM01 to SM20 ) and key mappings set by the mapping program are not changed.
3-1. Press C / M key to enter control mode
3-2. E , A , C , ENTER , type
3-3. Keyboard restarts automatically after initialization process
The quote is from the original documentation (DIRECT!!! dl: http://puu.sh/vjlL8/b3d849a69e.html) It's in Korean, but Google translate works suprisingly well with this document, most of it is understandable, but sometimes it tries translating stuff it shouldn't translate. If something (mainly happens with keycombos) seems really off look at the original, it's often something that wasn't written in Korean to begin with.
Thanks very much for the assistance, kawasaki, I appreciate it!
Looks like RGB LED2 is the likely culprit. When plugging in, I mentioned that all the RGBs give a quick flash, but LED2 doesn't even do that. Hoping changing that out does the trick... I'll update when successfully fixed! :thumb:
My local electronics shop was a no-go. Anyone know a part number or better yet source for these RGB LEDs?
Thanks very much- I appreciate the help!
Maybe it's the WS2812B SMD LED can anyone confirm?
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Thats the one I believe, I have the same issue on my LZ Iron ~ though I haven't replaced it yet because I'm not sure how to :-[ (only have exp with through-hole soldering) -- if anyone can link a tutorial, that'd be cool!
goodluck w/ replacing the faulty LED, hope that works out for you.
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 14 April 2017, 10:04:55
RGBs are completely off other than LED1. Looking at the soldering, nothing seems amiss... but I'll keep investigating!
Well, then the chances are good (or bad, depends on your interpretation) that only one LED is broken. If the signal is lost at one point (which can happen with dead LEDs) all LEDs chained in afterwards won't work. You could try soldering in a new LED, maybe you can also work out a jumper wire instead, but I'm not sure if it works.
Also, this is how you reset your user settings (LED modes, etc.)Quote3. Basic Initialization Setting (EEPROM ALL CLEAR)
Change the setting status of each function, LED effect, macro, key lock, hot key, etc. to the initial setting.
Static hardware macros ( SM01 to SM20 ) and key mappings set by the mapping program are not changed.
3-1. Press C / M key to enter control mode
3-2. E , A , C , ENTER , type
3-3. Keyboard restarts automatically after initialization process
The quote is from the original documentation (DIRECT!!! dl: http://puu.sh/vjlL8/b3d849a69e.html) It's in Korean, but Google translate works suprisingly well with this document, most of it is understandable, but sometimes it tries translating stuff it shouldn't translate. If something (mainly happens with keycombos) seems really off look at the original, it's often something that wasn't written in Korean to begin with.
Thanks very much for the assistance, kawasaki, I appreciate it!
Looks like RGB LED2 is the likely culprit. When plugging in, I mentioned that all the RGBs give a quick flash, but LED2 doesn't even do that. Hoping changing that out does the trick... I'll update when successfully fixed! :thumb:
My local electronics shop was a no-go. Anyone know a part number or better yet source for these RGB LEDs?
Thanks very much- I appreciate the help!
Thats the one I believe, I have the same issue on my LZ Iron ~ though I haven't replaced it yet because I'm not sure how to :-[ (only have exp with through-hole soldering) -- if anyone can link a tutorial, that'd be cool!
goodluck w/ replacing the faulty LED, hope that works out for you.
These LEDs are a bit different to work with than through hole LEDs. These are very sensitive to heat so avoid making contact with the iron for extended periods. Just make sure you buy extras as they are quite affordable. Here is how I did it:
Assuming you already desoldered the broken LED and now about to place the new LED.
1. Add some solder to one of the 4 pads.
2. Pick up a LED with a pair tweezers.
3. Heat up the solder (from step 1).
4. Place the LED onto the pad and move it around to make sure it rest flat on the PCB and also make sure you have proper access to the other 3 pads for soldering. (This should be done quickly to avoid damaging the pad with excessive heat) Quickly remove the soldering iron and now the LED is positioned and held in place.
5. Now just solder the other 3 pads and you should be good.
** Please avoid making having the iron making too much contact to the LED because that will easily kill it..**
**Buy extras**
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Post by: KetchyKech on Fri, 14 April 2017, 10:09:37
RGBs are completely off other than LED1. Looking at the soldering, nothing seems amiss... but I'll keep investigating!
Well, then the chances are good (or bad, depends on your interpretation) that only one LED is broken. If the signal is lost at one point (which can happen with dead LEDs) all LEDs chained in afterwards won't work. You could try soldering in a new LED, maybe you can also work out a jumper wire instead, but I'm not sure if it works.
Also, this is how you reset your user settings (LED modes, etc.)Quote3. Basic Initialization Setting (EEPROM ALL CLEAR)
Change the setting status of each function, LED effect, macro, key lock, hot key, etc. to the initial setting.
Static hardware macros ( SM01 to SM20 ) and key mappings set by the mapping program are not changed.
3-1. Press C / M key to enter control mode
3-2. E , A , C , ENTER , type
3-3. Keyboard restarts automatically after initialization process
The quote is from the original documentation (DIRECT!!! dl: http://puu.sh/vjlL8/b3d849a69e.html) It's in Korean, but Google translate works suprisingly well with this document, most of it is understandable, but sometimes it tries translating stuff it shouldn't translate. If something (mainly happens with keycombos) seems really off look at the original, it's often something that wasn't written in Korean to begin with.
Thanks very much for the assistance, kawasaki, I appreciate it!
Looks like RGB LED2 is the likely culprit. When plugging in, I mentioned that all the RGBs give a quick flash, but LED2 doesn't even do that. Hoping changing that out does the trick... I'll update when successfully fixed! :thumb:
My local electronics shop was a no-go. Anyone know a part number or better yet source for these RGB LEDs?
Thanks very much- I appreciate the help!
Thats the one I believe, I have the same issue on my LZ Iron ~ though I haven't replaced it yet because I'm not sure how to :-[ (only have exp with through-hole soldering) -- if anyone can link a tutorial, that'd be cool!
goodluck w/ replacing the faulty LED, hope that works out for you.
Quote
These LEDs are a bit different to work with than through hole LEDs. These are very sensitive to heat so avoid making contact with the iron for extended periods. Just make sure you buy extras as they are quite affordable. Here is how I did it:
Assuming you already desoldered the broken LED and now about to place the new LED.
1. Add some solder to one of the 4 pads.
2. Pick up a LED with a pair tweezers.
3. Heat up the solder (from step 1).
4. Place the LED onto the pad and move it around to make sure it rest flat on the PCB and also make sure you have proper access to the other 3 pads for soldering. (This should be done quickly to avoid damaging the pad with excessive heat) Quickly remove the soldering iron and now the LED is positioned and held in place.
5. Now just solder the other 3 pads and you should be good.
** Please avoid making having the iron making too much contact to the LED because that will easily kill it..**
**Buy extras**
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ahh makes sense, I def killed one of them trying to desolder it--will try with your method! thanks!
Post by: PerniciousPony on Wed, 17 May 2017, 19:02:03
Figured I'd share a pic of my boards. Currently in the process of rebuilding both with vint blacks, so they're temporarily out of commission.
Post by: whizzard on Thu, 17 August 2017, 06:31:30
I am having trouble figuring out exactly what I lost, this board doesn't seem to piece together quite like some others have. How many screws and screw types does this board take? Right now I am only seeing the 4 screw holes on the bottom corners of the base.
Any help or ideas on how to replace would be appreciated
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 17 August 2017, 06:46:18
Other than that I still have these pictures:
(http://puu.sh/xck5z/f47f63e82d.png)
You can see the longer ones, you'll need 4 of those
(http://i.imgur.com/MeAlyje.jpg)
And here you see that there are 2 types of countersunk screws, you'll need 2 short and two long ones.
I don't know the exact length off the top of my head, so I'll get those to you as soon as I find the time to measure them (unless someone else is faster than me, I wouldn't mind that, haha).
Post by: whizzard on Thu, 17 August 2017, 08:31:15
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 August 2017, 09:26:36
Thank you very much for the info!
You're back!
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 17 August 2017, 11:21:11
I finally sat down to start this board and I realized that I lost all the hardware :(
I am having trouble figuring out exactly what I lost, this board doesn't seem to piece together quite like some others have. How many screws and screw types does this board take? Right now I am only seeing the 4 screw holes on the bottom corners of the base.
Any help or ideas on how to replace would be appreciated
I'm using M3 x 6 for the front screws and M3 x 10 in the back. I don't think these are the original screws that came with it (where did those go...??) but they work great. Hope that helps. :thumb:
Post by: whizzard on Thu, 17 August 2017, 11:29:19
Thank you very much for the info!
You're back!
Hi romevi! Yea always been around, just been super busy :)
Thanks for the specs on the screws... does anyone know a good place to source tiny screws like that?
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 17 August 2017, 11:35:26
Thank you very much for the info!
You're back!
Hi romevi! Yea always been around, just been super busy :)
Thanks for the specs on the screws... does anyone know a good place to source tiny screws like that?
I borrow all of mine from a big rack of hardware we have back in eng here at work... Never tried these before, but it looks like a nice assortment. They have the same thing in M2... https://www.amazon.com/Glarks-230Pcs-Stainless-Button-Assortment/dp/B01J7NM9JA/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1502987497&sr=8-10&keywords=m3+screws (https://www.amazon.com/Glarks-230Pcs-Stainless-Button-Assortment/dp/B01J7NM9JA/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1502987497&sr=8-10&keywords=m3+screws)
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 17 August 2017, 12:11:45
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 17 August 2017, 12:14:08
I get my screws from Tacoma Screw company. But for when I'm feeling impulsive, I just go to HobbyTown USA.
Tacoma Screw Company... those 'craft' screweries in the Pacific NW make some good microscrews! :))
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 17 August 2017, 12:23:36
I get my screws from Tacoma Screw company. But for when I'm feeling impulsive, I just go to HobbyTown USA.
Tacoma Screw Company... those 'craft' screweries in the Pacific NW make some good microscrews! :))
LOL :D :D :D
On a side note, [shill] looking for someone to take over my brass engraved Blackbird weight from merlin64's GB. PM if you're interested[/shill]
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 17 August 2017, 12:45:41
I get my screws from Tacoma Screw company. But for when I'm feeling impulsive, I just go to HobbyTown USA.
Tacoma Screw Company... those 'craft' screweries in the Pacific NW make some good microscrews! :))
LOL :D :D :D
On a side note, [shill] looking for someone to take over my brass engraved Blackbird weight from merlin64's GB. PM if you're interested[/shill]
I wouldn't, his GBs are a little screwy.
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 17 August 2017, 12:46:45
I get my screws from Tacoma Screw company. But for when I'm feeling impulsive, I just go to HobbyTown USA.
Tacoma Screw Company... those 'craft' screweries in the Pacific NW make some good microscrews! :))
LOL :D :D :D
On a side note, [shill] looking for someone to take over my brass engraved Blackbird weight from merlin64's GB. PM if you're interested[/shill]
I wouldn't, his GBs are a little screwy.
But he's a nice guy tho. My octagon gained a pound or two because of him :D
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 August 2017, 17:54:00
Thank you very much for the info!
You're back!
Hi romevi! Yea always been around, just been super busy :)
You going to make any more caps?
Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 17 August 2017, 19:41:12
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 17 August 2017, 20:39:32
Whys the Google order form still work?Elton doesn't always take down the order forms. This is definitely closed though.
Post by: whizzard on Thu, 24 August 2017, 05:25:59
Am I missing something stupid or is this just a no-go on windows 10?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 06:45:16
Post by: whizzard on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:17:50
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:54:01
I am really impressed by the Blackbird as well. The angle it lays at is really really nice and it is super comfortable to type on.
Yeah, I hope Duck offers more boards with a 7 degree angle. His normal 11 degrees aren't comfortable for me at all.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:05:51
I am really impressed by the Blackbird as well. The angle it lays at is really really nice and it is super comfortable to type on.
Yeah, I hope Duck offers more boards with a 7 degree angle. His normal 11 degrees aren't comfortable for me at all.
Bad news for you, the Blackbird V2 is 11deg.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:06:41
Good news for my wallet :))I am really impressed by the Blackbird as well. The angle it lays at is really really nice and it is super comfortable to type on.
Yeah, I hope Duck offers more boards with a 7 degree angle. His normal 11 degrees aren't comfortable for me at all.
Bad news for you, the Blackbird V2 is 11deg.
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:18:59
I get more and more disappointed the more details I hear about the Blackbird v2. Here's hoping a design like the v1 returns sometime in the future.I am really impressed by the Blackbird as well. The angle it lays at is really really nice and it is super comfortable to type on.
Yeah, I hope Duck offers more boards with a 7 degree angle. His normal 11 degrees aren't comfortable for me at all.
Bad news for you, the Blackbird V2 is 11deg.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 25 August 2017, 20:11:28
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 25 August 2017, 20:43:29
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 25 August 2017, 22:17:22
Since v2 is going to be facelifted, I think I'm going to handwire my own blackbird from scratch. No point in waiting around for Duck to come out with another v1 Blackbird.Where did you hear about this news? Is there already an announcement?
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Post by: CMYK on Fri, 25 August 2017, 22:43:15
Blackbird v1 is one of the best KB's I own. ** I am looking for a spare PCB if anyone has one. **
You and me both.
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 25 August 2017, 22:44:21
It was first mentioned in the Lightsaver v3 thread by Mindxthinker.Since v2 is going to be facelifted, I think I'm going to handwire my own blackbird from scratch. No point in waiting around for Duck to come out with another v1 Blackbird.Where did you hear about this news? Is there already an announcement?
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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.450
Although after a bit of researching it looks like this new board is going to be called Jetfire. Duck posted some pictures on his instagram a day ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYI1X_Vjskt/
Maybe the Blackbird will still make a return ;D
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 25 August 2017, 23:02:20
Hmm... That's not quite Blackbird though... Got the extra f-row. I really enjoyed the 60/10key/arrows combo very minimalistic and clean. Jetfire is more of a cross between TX-CP and blackbird, very pretty.It was first mentioned in the Lightsaver v3 thread by Mindxthinker.Since v2 is going to be facelifted, I think I'm going to handwire my own blackbird from scratch. No point in waiting around for Duck to come out with another v1 Blackbird.Where did you hear about this news? Is there already an announcement?
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.450
Although after a bit of researching it looks like this new board is going to be called Jetfire. Duck posted some pictures on his instagram a day ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYI1X_Vjskt/
Maybe the Blackbird will still make a return ;D
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Post by: Atredl on Fri, 25 August 2017, 23:14:02
Yeah I didn't like the added f-row when I saw it either. It was originally posted under Duck facelift design and since it most resembled the the Blackbird we all assumed it was the Blackbird v2. If you read through the Lightsaver thread you'll see some people liked the change and others (like me) didn't. Though since this new board has a name now it isn't the Blackbird v2.Hmm... That's not quite Blackbird though... Got the extra f-row. I really enjoyed the 60/10key/arrows combo very minimalistic and clean. Jetfire is more of a cross between TX-CP and blackbird, very pretty.It was first mentioned in the Lightsaver v3 thread by Mindxthinker.Since v2 is going to be facelifted, I think I'm going to handwire my own blackbird from scratch. No point in waiting around for Duck to come out with another v1 Blackbird.Where did you hear about this news? Is there already an announcement?
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.450
Although after a bit of researching it looks like this new board is going to be called Jetfire. Duck posted some pictures on his instagram a day ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYI1X_Vjskt/
Maybe the Blackbird will still make a return ;D
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
http://duck0113.tistory.com/136
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 05 September 2017, 21:33:01
well i honestly dont know what i did but it's back alive! i was ****ing around with Atmel flip and after that it still didn't wwork and i just pressed a bunch keys together... suddenly lights came back on! and keys works! weird!!! 1 hour of panic but it's all good for now... :-\
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 06 September 2017, 10:47:41
So I was updating my Blackbird keymap and try to upload the firmware afterwards the lights didn't come back on and key press don't respond, the only thing is when i plug in the usb i see a flash of light and that was it... any idea how to get it to come back from this?
well i honestly dont know what i did but it's back alive! i was ****ing around with Atmel flip and after that it still didn't wwork and i just pressed a bunch keys together... suddenly lights came back on! and keys works! weird!!! 1 hour of panic but it's all good for now... :-\
Yahoo!! The Blackbird rises again! :)
Post by: kmba on Wed, 06 September 2017, 11:52:28
Yeah I didn't like the added f-row when I saw it either. It was originally posted under Duck facelift design and since it most resembled the the Blackbird we all assumed it was the Blackbird v2. If you read through the Lightsaver thread you'll see some people liked the change and others (like me) didn't. Though since this new board has a name now it isn't the Blackbird v2.Hmm... That's not quite Blackbird though... Got the extra f-row. I really enjoyed the 60/10key/arrows combo very minimalistic and clean. Jetfire is more of a cross between TX-CP and blackbird, very pretty.It was first mentioned in the Lightsaver v3 thread by Mindxthinker.Since v2 is going to be facelifted, I think I'm going to handwire my own blackbird from scratch. No point in waiting around for Duck to come out with another v1 Blackbird.Where did you hear about this news? Is there already an announcement?
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.450
Although after a bit of researching it looks like this new board is going to be called Jetfire. Duck posted some pictures on his instagram a day ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYI1X_Vjskt/
Maybe the Blackbird will still make a return ;D
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
http://duck0113.tistory.com/136
Thank God. That board is just another compact 1800. Blackbird is unique and should remain so.
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 17 October 2017, 13:03:00
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 17 October 2017, 13:04:22
On the hunt for a Black Bird PCB, $100 bounty... pm's please
Oh no! What happened??
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 17 October 2017, 13:26:45
On the hunt for a Black Bird PCB, $100 bounty... pm's please
Oh no! What happened??
sigh, i am an idiot basically and forgot a stab on the left shift, then decided id just do a split left shift instead of de-soldering the entire pcb to install said stab. Managed to lift a pad because I used my de-soldering gun without tinning the tip and adding more solder before hand... mistakes were made and im going to blame it on the beer i was drinking at the time!
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 17 October 2017, 13:30:22
Well it happens..but I think given the proper instructions from maybe Duck there might be ways to jump it.. maybe take some pictures and post maybe someone here can help out. You probably have a greater chance of doing jumps than actually finding an extra PCB TBH...On the hunt for a Black Bird PCB, $100 bounty... pm's please
Oh no! What happened??
sigh, i am an idiot basically and forgot a stab on the left shift, then decided id just do a split left shift instead of de-soldering the entire pcb to install said stab. Managed to lift a pad because I used my de-soldering gun without tinning the tip and adding more solder before hand... mistakes were made and im going to blame it on the beer i was drinking at the time!
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Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 17 October 2017, 13:32:47
Well it happens..but I think given the proper instructions from maybe Duck there might be ways to jump it.. maybe take some pictures and post maybe someone here can help out. You probably have a greater chance of doing jumps than actually finding an extra PCB TBH...On the hunt for a Black Bird PCB, $100 bounty... pm's please
Oh no! What happened??
sigh, i am an idiot basically and forgot a stab on the left shift, then decided id just do a split left shift instead of de-soldering the entire pcb to install said stab. Managed to lift a pad because I used my de-soldering gun without tinning the tip and adding more solder before hand... mistakes were made and im going to blame it on the beer i was drinking at the time!
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Yea, its been fixed with a jumper and works as intended but its just so damn ugly and me knowing its there is even worse!
Post by: Aktavate on Tue, 17 October 2017, 21:09:43
Post by: Shados on Tue, 24 October 2017, 10:01:39
Well it happens..but I think given the proper instructions from maybe Duck there might be ways to jump it.. maybe take some pictures and post maybe someone here can help out. You probably have a greater chance of doing jumps than actually finding an extra PCB TBH...On the hunt for a Black Bird PCB, $100 bounty... pm's please
Oh no! What happened??
sigh, i am an idiot basically and forgot a stab on the left shift, then decided id just do a split left shift instead of de-soldering the entire pcb to install said stab. Managed to lift a pad because I used my de-soldering gun without tinning the tip and adding more solder before hand... mistakes were made and im going to blame it on the beer i was drinking at the time!
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Yea, its been fixed with a jumper and works as intended but its just so damn ugly and me knowing its there is even worse!
You can get replacement eyelets to repair lifted pads directly, although it sounds like this might only be useful for future reference, at this point...
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 24 October 2017, 10:42:00
You can get replacement eyelets to repair lifted pads directly, although it sounds like this might only be useful for future reference, at this point...
Yes I have eyelets, but the damage is actually on a trace connected to the eyelet unfortunately. Repairing PCB's with damage like that is a lot easier said then done, you have to have a variety of tools to scrape/clean/retrace and epoxy down the traces then cover them back up with substrate. I have done some pcb repair work myself and basically stopped doing it because you need like a damn microscope to get the job done along with a decent heated air station that I also elected not to buy. Its actually pretty comical cutting a custom trace and trying to set it with a set of normal tweasers, comical and infuriating.
Post by: Oatburner on Tue, 24 October 2017, 10:51:33
Yes I have eyelets, but the damage is actually on a trace connected to the eyelet unfortunately. Repairing PCB's with damage like that is a lot easier said then done, you have to have a variety of tools to scrape/clean/retrace and epoxy down the traces then cover them back up with substrate. I have done some pcb repair work myself and basically stopped doing it because you need like a damn microscope to get the job done along with a decent heated air station that I also elected not to buy. Its actually pretty comical cutting a custom trace and trying to set it with a set of normal tweasers, comical and infuriating.
Often times you can get away with soldering in magnet wire or wire-wrap wire (anything very thin) between the two pads that the trace connects. Or you can scrape up the solder mask along part of the trace, and solder between there and the pad it needs to connect to, though that is more difficult.
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 03 November 2017, 01:17:25
(https://i.imgur.com/HSgoLr6.jpg)
Really couldn’t wait until Duck did another run :)
Post by: redbanshee on Thu, 28 December 2017, 10:16:01
Post by: maxf on Thu, 28 December 2017, 10:55:49
Any info on Jetfire GB? They mentioned it would be this month...
Did I miss this? I still like the 1800 layout a bit more I think. But I was curious to the pricing.
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 28 December 2017, 10:58:31
Yup, Jetfire GB already passed. I think they’ve all paid and are now waiting for the boards to be made.Any info on Jetfire GB? They mentioned it would be this month...
Did I miss this? I still like the 1800 layout a bit more I think. But I was curious to the pricing.
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Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 April 2018, 23:47:20
Blackbird deserves a v2!that's what jetfire is
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