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Offline Findecanor

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Rubber Dome Transplant
« on: Sat, 18 December 2010, 19:15:54 »
I recently got a Fujitsu FKB 8738 in the mail. There is a seller on the Swedish auction site Tradera that sells them for 50 SEK + s/h. I read up on it, saw that it was a rubber dome (no surprise there) but hey, it is tenkeyless and has a built-in trackpoint. I couldn't refuse.

Unfortunately, when I got it, I felt that the domes are very mushy.
I opened it up, and found the rubber sheet. Hmm.. It expanded a bit after the buckling, which explained the mushiness.
Hmm ...

So, I looked through my box of old rubber dome keyboards ... and took out a Keytronic KT1000PS2SV -- in my opinion, the best of all rubber dome keyboards. The donor keyboard was almost ten years old, with very shiny keycaps, plus it had AT layout.
I compared it to the Fujitsu keyboard's rubber sheet and looked for similarities and differences. I also had the sheet from a IBM rubber dome keyboard made by Chicony, but the domes on that sheet were too high.

Here is the keyboard with its old membrane:
Sorry about the pics. Old camera, no natural light.


The best thing was that the Esc and F-keys had what looked like identical locations on the sheet on the keyboards.
Unfortunately, I found a few minor differences: The left Ctrl key is wider than the other modifiers on the bottom row, where the Keytronic's are the same size. Unlike the Keytronic, the Caps Lock and Backspace keys have centered switches. The location of right Shift and Enter key switches are also slightly different.
The spacing between the inverted T-cluster/nav keys is also bigger on the Fujitsu than on the Keytronic KT-1000, so this is what I started to cut up.
The relations between the Keytronic's Enter and right Space switches was the same as between the Fujitsu's Backspace and Enter keys, so I just cut and moved these switches up and to the left. The Caps Lock key, I moved just a little bit to the right. I found that the distance between the left Ctrl key and Space bar was the same, so I kept the rubber sheet connected between these two and turned the left Win/Alt keys 180º.
Most of the cutting, though, was making new holes in the sheet so that it fit..

I used a sharp hobby knife to cut the holes.. I had tried first to use hole punching pliers, but that did not work very well. It is not as easy to cut straight line in rubber as I thought that it would.



So how it is?

The key feel is very much improved. Far from as mushy as it was in the beginning. Bottoming out is dampened but distinct as on the the Keytronic. However, it is still a long way from the quality of the donor board. The new keyboard is more noisy. It both feels and sounds more "plasticky".

I made one stupid error: The Fujitsu has a curved back plane, while the KT-1000 is flat ... so the domes get a fraction of a mm more out of alignment and just a little bit more mushy at each higher row. This is not very noticeable except for the top row, but I rarely use the F-keys at all, and I think that I can do without them.

A big problem is making the domes stay in place when you reassemble the board. A few of the domes are a bit out of alignment - some keys are a bit mushy, others feel very tactile but a key press is harder to register.
I will have to find a way to glue pieces of the rubber sheet together again. Sticky tape does not work. I suspect that the rubber sheet is made of silicone. I will try to see if some moulding silicone that I have could be used as glue to mend the parts together again.
« Last Edit: Sat, 18 December 2010, 19:22:48 by Findecanor »

Offline Findecanor

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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 18 December 2010, 19:27:23 »
Not surprising. I saw that the Fujitsu FKB-327 and Peerless keyboards have similar looking rubber sheets. The significant differences are in the shapes of the domes. The original rubber domes on this keyboard had quite a bit of give after the buckling and that is what had made them mushy.

Offline Pylon

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 18 December 2010, 20:49:06 »
Hmm, plunger design on the keycaps also make a huge difference. I tried transplants using individual domes onto my HP KB-9970 and it felt largely the same.

Offline Pylon

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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 08:50:15 »
I just did a similar mod with my KB-9970.

I decided to kill my SK-8125 for its controller, but it had really nice tactility. However, the stabilization was rather poor. Then, I have my KB-9970, which had so-so tactility, but the keys were great, nicely printed, decently thick, and stabilization was decent. So I transplanted the SK-8125's domes into the KB-9970 and it feels great-it's really, really snappy...and really, really loud. This thing is probably almost as loud as buckling springs.