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Offline edada

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terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
« on: Mon, 19 December 2011, 04:37:42 »
Hello,

I found someone who has about 70kg of Ms for terminal to sell, french azerty. I don't need so much ! I don't ever need terminal keyboard, but this is what I've found :

  • DIN connector :
    • enhanced : 1390650
    • 122 keys : 1390586, 1390716, 1390890

    • "RJ45" connector : a 1394316, and another one "not IBM branded but similar"


    I'm sure some of you have the knowledge to help me choosing the ones that will best fit my GNU/Linux box after a simple cable swap.

    The vendor will give me more informations about the "not IBM" one ; could it be something else than a Lexmark 1397xxx ?

    Is it possible to swap IC board of a 1390650 with one from a silent 71G4624 to get a loud enhanced Model M PS/2 keyboard ?
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    Offline KillerBee

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    terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
    « Reply #1 on: Mon, 19 December 2011, 10:01:29 »
    Yes it is possible to swap out boards between the 1390650 and the 71G4624
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    Offline edada

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    « Reply #2 on: Mon, 19 December 2011, 20:38:55 »
    Thanks KillerBee ! Adding a 1390650 to my cart.

    After some research, I believe 13906xx 13907xx and 13908xx are all designed for 319x terminals, and so suitable for cable swap.
    I didn't find anything about 1390586 and 1394316.

    Quote from: edada;473656
    about the "not IBM" one ; could it be something else than a Lexmark 1397xxx ?
    I should have say : "could it be something else than a terminal emulator keyboard ?"
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    Offline h2gofast

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    « Reply #3 on: Tue, 20 December 2011, 15:21:03 »
    edada, could you please post some links to your research about which keyboards would work with a cable swap.
    Thank you.
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    Offline edada

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    « Reply #4 on: Wed, 21 December 2011, 03:42:32 »
    You're right kishy ! I also have to give a great thanks to JohnElliot, firstly about the break-code thing.

    h2gofast : you will have nice readings here :
    http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7306
    http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?6770-IBM-1386887-(3179-terminal)-keyboard-conversion

    According to kbdbabel.org/conn/index.html keyboards with DIN45322 connector are all in the good list for me (3179/318x/319x).

    The 1394316 with "RJ45" is still a mistery for me.
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    Offline h2gofast

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    « Reply #5 on: Wed, 21 December 2011, 09:25:32 »
    All,
    Thanks for the links, they are very helpful...
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    Offline edada

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    « Reply #6 on: Thu, 22 December 2011, 05:10:44 »
    I only found RJ45 IBM keyboards for 3151 or infowindow (34xx) terminal, that's in the list !

    Am I allowed to suppose all these keyboards with DIN or RJ45 are eligible for cable swap ?
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    Offline edada

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    « Reply #7 on: Thu, 22 December 2011, 05:15:17 »
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    Offline dorkvader

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    « Reply #8 on: Thu, 22 December 2011, 20:34:58 »
    Aww, I want one.

    Glad you found your information, though. Also, have you looked into soarer's project on making the XT ones work with a PC?
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    Offline edada

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    « Reply #9 on: Fri, 23 December 2011, 02:50:02 »
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    Aww, I want one.
    One thousand !

    If you live in Europe I may give you the contact, she has beetween 25 and 30 122-keys to sell, 10€ each, I'll just take one or two of these.

    I had a quick look at teensy mod, but as a GNU/Linux user I'm ok with a simple cable swap. I'll have other keyboards around when needing to press F11 at boottime ;/
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