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Offline Manyak

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« on: Sun, 12 July 2009, 18:51:38 »
Awesome, I was worried I'd get back home this week to some ultra glossy keys.
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Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 21 July 2009, 11:36:57 »
If those white tabs come out, it's childs play to put them back. On Cherry boards though, it's hell lol
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 21 July 2009, 11:57:02 »
Strong, ripster.  Thanks for the guide on the large keys.  That tripped me up when I was modding the spacebar on my old MX-11800.
 
This question has probably been asked and answered somwhere, but do the blank keys come with a keycap puller?
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 21 July 2009, 12:17:15 »
Quote from: ripster;103603
No, but they're only $4 now that Majestouch sells them separately.

I saw that (which sort of propted the question).  It's a good thing, too, since Hooleon seems to bend people over for like $15 shipping on a $4 tool (a little exaggerated, but you get the point).
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 21 July 2009, 12:48:24 »
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Could also use for dental extractions.

On horses, maybe.
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Offline sixty

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 22 July 2009, 08:06:35 »
Regarding removing keys, especially the thumb keys.. this is how the Korean pros do it:

thumb keys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWYYa6kfhE

space bar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaOXridKeag

These awesome videos are property of Leopold.co.kr, for some reason they are not posted on the main site and have only collected 6 views until now!
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Offline keyb_gr

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 22 July 2009, 08:37:26 »
Quote from: o2dazone;103597
If those white tabs come out, it's childs play to put them back. On Cherry boards though, it's hell lol
I've found key swapping on G80s to be dead easy - pull up vertically, and off they come. [strike]These white tabs are only used on the space bar, and there you can unhook the stabilizer on the PCB if needed. (The other stabilized keys have the entire stabilizer mechanics mounted on the board.) The latter may require popping the lid off, but at least with the old-style case, that's not a big problem either.[/strike] On G81s, removing the top case is pretty much required for reassembly.

On my new Alcatel / Acer board, removing and reinserting the stabilized keys is dead easy, only putting back the space bar requires some more careful aiming. I'm not sure how it would have gone without the keys above removed though.
« Last Edit: Wed, 22 July 2009, 09:06:24 by keyb_gr »
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Offline nijikon5

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 29 March 2010, 20:12:24 »
Awesome, thanks for the help ripster!

Quick question, where do I apply the Silicone Grease to get rid of the squeaking? On the actual bar or just the plastic mounts that hold the bar?
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Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 29 March 2010, 21:08:47 »
An 87u I have came with white lithium grease on the left ctrl key form the factory.  Just a touch of it, not much.
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Offline Brodie337

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 30 March 2010, 01:50:18 »
Hmm...

Would I be right in assuming that this means that the keys will last longer before going shiny?
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Offline HaaTa

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Re: Blank Filco Keys
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 30 March 2010, 01:56:46 »
Umm, no...

The keys going shiny is the wearing off of the key texture.

Unless there's a lot of coating on the original keys...
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Offline Brodie337

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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 30 March 2010, 03:31:35 »
The coated keys have all sorts of problems with the coating wearing off REALLY quickly and going shiny.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 30 March 2010, 08:13:36 »
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The coated keys have all sorts of problems with the coating wearing off REALLY quickly and going shiny.

The uncoated keycaps have the same problem.  The reason why is that there is not much texture on the keycaps in the first place, so it doesn't take much to wear the plastic down.  They look fantastic when brand new, but they don't last long.
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Offline Brodie337

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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 30 March 2010, 16:53:03 »
Ahh, cool.

Thanks alot, I'm still a newb at this game.
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Offline Zet

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 23:07:10 »
Quote from: sixty;103733
Regarding removing keys, especially the thumb keys.. this is how the Korean pros do it:

thumb keys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWYYa6kfhE

space bar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaOXridKeag

These awesome videos are property of Leopold.co.kr, for some reason they are not posted on the main site and have only collected 6 views until now!

dude, awesome videos, thanks A LOT for posting them, I downloaded em to my pc and will help me if I ever decide to remove my keycaps on the big keys :D

EDIT: @Ripster, which would be the cheapest place to get thouse blank keycaps for filcos 104 key layout?
« Last Edit: Sat, 21 May 2011, 23:19:10 by Zet »
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Offline Zet

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 22 May 2011, 19:01:27 »
Thanks for the info Ripster, I really appreciate it.
It seems like I'll sandblast my lettered ones and hope I get ones other time(reds)
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