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Offline ticktwo

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #100 on: Thu, 24 November 2016, 01:54:21 »
beautiful :D
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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #101 on: Thu, 24 November 2016, 14:02:19 »
Read everything on DT, would love to have one! Amazing work on capsense and design and everything!

Offline nsmechkb

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #102 on: Thu, 24 November 2016, 19:28:30 »
The board in the renders is gorgeous. I would totally be in for number 3, Topre.

Edit:  One question.  I've heard some users complain about pain from long-term usage of the Ergodox thumb clusters.  Do you think this could happen with your design as well, or are the thumb clusters sufficiently adjustable to eliminate this?
« Last Edit: Thu, 24 November 2016, 21:18:33 by nsmechkb »

Offline Tom P.

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #103 on: Fri, 25 November 2016, 18:23:38 »
The board in the renders is gorgeous. I would totally be in for number 3, Topre.

Edit:  One question.  I've heard some users complain about pain from long-term usage of the Ergodox thumb clusters.  Do you think this could happen with your design as well, or are the thumb clusters sufficiently adjustable to eliminate this?

It looks like this board has answers to the Ergodox thumb cluster's two big problems:
  • The Ergodox thumb cluster is flat, requiring you move your thumbs "sideways" to press down.
    Whereas... This board's thumb cluster isn't flat; it's adjustable. It's not perfectly clear yet how adjustable it is, but it should at least mitigate this.
  • The Ergodox thumb cluster is pretty far from the rest of your hand, requiring a bit of a stretch.
    Whereas... The thumb cluster of this board is 1 column closer to your fingers, because it doesn't have the inner columns of the Ergodox.

Because there are no prototypes yet, it's not yet clear how well this design solves those problems.

Offline nsmechkb

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 07:26:55 »
It looks like this board has answers to the Ergodox thumb cluster's two big problems:
  • The Ergodox thumb cluster is flat, requiring you move your thumbs "sideways" to press down.
    Whereas... This board's thumb cluster isn't flat; it's adjustable. It's not perfectly clear yet how adjustable it is, but it should at least mitigate this.
  • The Ergodox thumb cluster is pretty far from the rest of your hand, requiring a bit of a stretch.
    Whereas... The thumb cluster of this board is 1 column closer to your fingers, because it doesn't have the inner columns of the Ergodox.

Because there are no prototypes yet, it's not yet clear how well this design solves those problems.

All fair observations.  Thanks for sharing these points!

Offline jknight

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #105 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:28:11 »
+1 for interested in option #3 for a split topre keyboard.

For me, the closer it is to a split hhkb the better.

The thumb position and action on ergdox doesn't suit me either, nor do the extraneous keys - there are 16 keys on an ergodox I'd never use.
This looks nicely minimalist. Start a kickstarter for it?
« Last Edit: Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:40:14 by jknight »

Offline childofthehorn

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #106 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:01:17 »
On the MX front: what about a flex PCB for each column? A little bit like the Kinesis method, but with separate columns.
(Attachment Link)

That would be ideal but can you find a factory willing to make a small run for a sensible price?  If you can are they tough enough to solder to, or is there another way to link them at random stagger?

Have you tried Seedstudio? I have had some flex stuff made through them and the price (while higher than normal PCB's) was on par for what I would pay for a 2.5 or 3oz trace board.

For small production runs : http://www.txcircuitry.com/txcirserv/index.html. They do a pretty good job.and you won't more than 2 layers anyway I would hope. 

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:02:20 »
Well this is incredibly impressive. I would be interested in one Topre.

Offline nastrovje

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #108 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 18:35:45 »
Definitly in for a split topre.


Offline attheicearcade

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #109 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 04:35:47 »
+1 for interested in option #3 for a split topre keyboard.

For me, the closer it is to a split hhkb the better.

You may be interested to follow my other project: https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-custom-split-hand-topre-board-need-your-input-t14769.html

It is a mod for Realforce / other capacitive keyboards which is basically a split HHKB. I'm working on that before I continue developing this project.  :thumb:

Offline jknight

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:37:58 »

You may be interested to follow my other project: https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-custom-split-hand-topre-board-need-your-input-t14769.html

It is a mod for Realforce / other capacitive keyboards which is basically a split HHKB. I'm working on that before I continue developing this project.  :thumb:

Did you consider vertically aligned keys  (ortholinear) ?
« Last Edit: Mon, 05 December 2016, 09:06:20 by jknight »

Offline nsmechkb

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:51:06 »
+1 for interested in option #3 for a split topre keyboard.

For me, the closer it is to a split hhkb the better.

You may be interested to follow my other project: https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-custom-split-hand-topre-board-need-your-input-t14769.html

It is a mod for Realforce / other capacitive keyboards which is basically a split HHKB. I'm working on that before I continue developing this project.  :thumb:

Whoaaaaa!  This is beautiful!  Incredible!

Edit:  Specifically, the split HHKB; post 3 from the link above.
« Last Edit: Mon, 05 December 2016, 19:11:37 by nsmechkb »

Offline stix

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #112 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 14:10:25 »
Indeed #3 all the way.

Offline Mneme

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 06:28:54 »
I'd definitely be interested in alternative 1 for an MX build.
« Last Edit: Fri, 09 December 2016, 07:39:24 by Mneme »

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 23 December 2016, 13:21:19 »

Offline ccnewbie

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #115 on: Fri, 20 January 2017, 00:25:07 »
Wow this looks amazing. Interested to see the final product and build my own!

Offline shangrila500

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #116 on: Mon, 23 January 2017, 01:19:51 »
Aaaannnnddd I have to have one!

Offline yinzer

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:46:05 »
Read through the deskthority post and I'll be extremely eager to see how this project advances.

I can't offer any technical knowledge, but if there is anything I can do to help, I'd be happy to do so (even if it's something like fundraising for a prototype)

Offline riotburn

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #118 on: Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:51:36 »
I am definitely interested, prob option 3. Great work

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 07:49:43 »

+1 if this ever makes it into a group buy!

Offline a_ak57

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 08:18:00 »
I've always wanted to try an ergo board but have committed to the topre kool-aid, so I'd be interested in this (option 3 specifically).

Offline Eery Petrol

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 09 February 2017, 10:18:05 »
PLEASE PROVIDE A MAILING LIST :)

I would love to buy option 3, but fear to lose sight of it by the time you will accept orders.

This thread started in October and it's currently February. What was your conclusion regarding investing into a prototype version? I'm looking to buy a keyboard for the long run and your designs are so compelling that I would postpone my choice until you roll out a shippable product. But for that I would hope to see how your project is progressing. The GitHub updates don't really cover that. Maybe a project blog?.
« Last Edit: Fri, 17 February 2017, 02:01:48 by Eery Petrol »

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #122 on: Sat, 11 February 2017, 06:15:34 »
I'm very interested. Too interested if you ask my wallet. But count me in, especially for the fully assembled and/or case only options.
Ergo plus Topre would be a dream come true.
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Offline Eery Petrol

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #123 on: Fri, 17 February 2017, 02:04:32 »
I would be interested in option 1; just the case. Is it possible for you to break the projects into chunks? Cherry MX compatibility sounds like an easier first step than Topre compatibility, so I was wondering if you could ship a Cherry ready case before finishing the whole product? Would also mean you'd get some funds during the project.


It looks like a marvelous beast and I would love to just hook some cherries into it and connect those to one tiny PCB.

Offline zfhrp7

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #124 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 02:11:02 »
It's amazing!!
Sign me up in Opnion 3.

That I have Topre keyboards used to use but hardly use now must be for this project.

Offline ns90

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #125 on: Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:01:06 »
I'm sold on option 3.

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 18 March 2017, 01:32:32 »
OP are there any recent prototype photos (non-rendered)? Even if it's just seeing a casing prototype would be great  :p thanks  :thumb:

This thread was to gauge whether I could sell enough to pay off the high investment cost of making a full working prototype :)

I'm interested in an mx case which I could hand wire.

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #127 on: Sun, 19 March 2017, 07:24:58 »
I'm quite interested, seems like the logical continuation of the dactyl which I'm greatly interested in
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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 20 March 2017, 14:11:57 »
You know what would be great? An ALPS compatible version...

Just saying...
 :-*

Offline nLights

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #129 on: Mon, 20 March 2017, 15:53:58 »
This is exactly what I've been looking for, 2 cases for MX please!

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #130 on: Mon, 20 March 2017, 17:33:16 »
Interested. :)
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Offline StarPupil

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #131 on: Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:06:08 »
I'd drop the full $200 for either MX or Topre versions, as I really despise soldering SMDs. I'd have to cannibalize my Novatouch or buy a Realforce to tear down, but I feel like that would be totally worth it.

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #132 on: Tue, 23 May 2017, 01:08:43 »
Just found this. I'm interested too! I hope it gets to GB stage :)

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:43:25 »
I'm interested
please make it happen

Offline Jolly_Green_Giant

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #134 on: Fri, 26 May 2017, 06:28:28 »
I'd love to get in on one. Option 3, I have a donor board all ready to go too (assuming I can somehow cannibalize a HHKB for everything!)

Offline MUMU

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #135 on: Sat, 27 May 2017, 18:10:28 »
Should be in for option 3 in topre if I find a way to make it fit in my 330-370 euro budget....
ps:That split hhkb :eek: .

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #136 on: Sun, 28 May 2017, 05:46:23 »
I've been looking at the BOM. Why did you settle for TRRS?

I'm asking because I've got an ergodox and my TRRS cable is busted and I'm thinking to mod it further with USB-C..

Offline DocHoliday

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 06 June 2017, 13:09:30 »
I'd buy the case and build an MX board.

How's the project coming along? Any updates for us?

Offline K_Soze

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 20 June 2017, 07:24:23 »
I am looking everywhere for a Topre Ergodox like keyboard, so here I am .
 :thumb:

I like the actuation point changer and the MX caps compatibility of the Topre Realforce RGB keyboard.
I also know you dislike rgb leds and won't support them, but would the rbg topre switches work with you pcb (and will it be possible to choose the actuation point per switch) ?
Amazing work, you are building the perfect keyboard !


Offline nobleslight

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #139 on: Sat, 26 August 2017, 12:57:50 »
This looks incredible, is this project still active?

Offline Xiaojun27

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Re: [IC] Currently unnamed split adjustable ergonomic Topre keyboard
« Reply #140 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 22:19:11 »
the design looks great, great job there~~~ wondering how is this project going, really want to have one. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: