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Offline Tempy

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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 23 June 2011, 09:16:52 »
There is no weight customization on the g400 right? that is a bit of a dealbreaker for me
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Offline daerid

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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 23 June 2011, 13:52:44 »
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There is no weight customization on the g400 right? that is a bit of a dealbreaker for me

I have never, ever, ever, ever once used any weight customization available on any mouse I've purchased.

Offline Polaris

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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 25 June 2011, 12:42:56 »
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Wow. So these aren't shipping until July. Logitech is basically saying that if you pre-ordered, you gotta wait another 2-3 weeks, or you can go pick it up at Best Buy.

What ****wads. I specifically pre-ordered from Logitech so I wouldn't have to wait or go to a retail store to pick this up.

 
well this blows, i was pretty excited to go back to the mx form factor too.

guess it'll be a few more weeks with the deathadder

are best buys carrying the g400 already? i havent seen any yet

Offline Pyksel

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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 19:17:04 »
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Wow. So these aren't shipping until July. Logitech is basically saying that if you pre-ordered, you gotta wait another 2-3 weeks, or you can go pick it up at Best Buy.

What ****wads. I specifically pre-ordered from Logitech so I wouldn't have to wait or go to a retail store to pick this up.

 
I'm not sure why you're raging. I pre-ordered mine and it just arrived today.  I did not have to wait nor did I have to go to a retail store. I'm sure someone has the initiative and tools to properly review this mouse but I'll just toss a couple thoughts out there.

In terms of shape/form it's identical to the MX518. It's a tad lighter than the MX518 but I do like the coating on it as opposed to the glossy center body of it's predecessor.  The two side buttons are more pronounced (raised away from the mouse body) and are a bit more rigid but I'm sure those will loosen up with time.

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Offline Polaris

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« Reply #54 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 21:35:56 »
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I'm not sure why you're raging. I pre-ordered mine and it just arrived today.  I did not have to wait nor did I have to go to a retail store. I'm sure someone has the initiative and tools to properly review this mouse but I'll just toss a couple thoughts out there.

In terms of shape/form it's identical to the MX518. It's a tad lighter than the MX518 but I do like the coating on it as opposed to the glossy center body of it's predecessor.  The two side buttons are more pronounced (raised away from the mouse body) and are a bit more rigid but I'm sure those will loosen up with time.

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because they stated the release date was the 19th.  so you expect them to ship out the next business day, not ship out a week later

Offline daerid

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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 00:08:26 »
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because they stated the release date was the 19th.  so you expect them to ship out the next business day, not ship out a week later

And also because the Logitech rep on the blog post announcing this kept saying they'd ship out in July. Repeatedly. Now I wish I hadn't cancelled my pre-order :(

Offline Polaris

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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 04:07:59 »
Going from glossy sides on the DA to the sides on the g400 feels so good

and the MX form factor just fits my hand so much better

Offline J888www

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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 09:32:39 »
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The cables, the cables, please compare the cables and offer opinion/opinions........
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Offline Pyksel

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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 23:34:24 »
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The cables, the cables, please compare the cables and offer opinion/opinions........

The cable on the G400 has a much smaller diameter than the MX518 which makes it even more flexible.  As far as additional opinions go, if you liked/loved the MX518 there's nothing that I have uncovered thus far that would lead me believe that you wouldn't fall in love with the G400.  Polaris had it right in that the texture is really the major noticeable difference.

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Offline daerid

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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:31:44 »
Damnit... now I kinda wanna sell my MX518 to fund the G400, since I really can't stand the glossy finish on the 518 :(

Offline Polaris

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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 01 July 2011, 21:26:52 »
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Damnit... now I kinda wanna sell my MX518 to fund the G400, since I really can't stand the glossy finish on the 518 :(

do it, you wont regret it

Offline avinin1

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« Reply #61 on: Sun, 10 July 2011, 04:19:25 »
Hey Polaris, looks like you've bought the G400 and glad to hear you liked it..I have some question to ask you of compered to the older MX518:
1) The prediction/angle snapping/mouse correction/drift control is still in the same amount?
2) The metrial that in the top surface of the mouse, is glossy just like the Mx518?
3) How's the performances, any diffrents?
4) Can you confirmed if the Cable of the G400 is more flexible than Mx518's cable?
5) The mouse actually feels less heavy than Mx518 or no diffrents?
6) May you please check how much the LoD on the surfaces QcK, 9HD and PureTrak Talent ? (how much cd's it tracks)

Thanks alot in advance.
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Offline Polaris

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« Reply #62 on: Sun, 10 July 2011, 13:41:19 »
Quote from: avinin1;377350
Hey Polaris, looks like you've bought the G400 and glad to hear you liked it..I have some question to ask you of compered to the older MX518:
1) The prediction/angle snapping/mouse correction/drift control is still in the same amount?
2) The metrial that in the top surface of the mouse, is glossy just like the Mx518?
3) How's the performances, any diffrents?
4) Can you confirmed if the Cable of the G400 is more flexible than Mx518's cable?
5) The mouse actually feels less heavy than Mx518 or no diffrents?
6) May you please check how much the LoD on the surfaces QcK, 9HD and PureTrak Talent ? (how much cd's it tracks)

Thanks alot in advance.

1) yes the angle snapping is still there
2) the top material is different. it's not glossy, more chalky which is better for sweaty hands imo
3) performance feels exactly the same, just a higher range of dpi and actual 1k polling rate
4) the cable is more flexible mostly due to the fact that it is thinner
5) the weight feels the same, but i dont have my old mx518 anymore to compare
6) not sure how to answer this question, but i prolly wouldnt be able to anyways seeing as how i only own qck's

Offline bcpk

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« Reply #63 on: Sun, 10 July 2011, 14:22:39 »
The G400 sounds perfect for me considering I love my MX518 bar its sweat-inducing glossy finish. Sadly it's not clear when it will appear in Europe, and I can get the MX518 for €25 so I just bought a second one of them instead.

Offline avinin1

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« Reply #64 on: Sun, 10 July 2011, 17:07:06 »
Quote from: Polaris;377580
1) yes the angle snapping is still there
2) the top material is different. it's not glossy, more chalky which is better for sweaty hands imo
3) performance feels exactly the same, just a higher range of dpi and actual 1k polling rate
4) the cable is more flexible mostly due to the fact that it is thinner
5) the weight feels the same, but i dont have my old mx518 anymore to compare
6) not sure how to answer this question, but i prolly wouldnt be able to anyways seeing as how i only own qck's

Thanks you very much my friend.
about question #6 - you need to check how much the LoD higher like in this video:
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Offline Zhuni

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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 08:06:36 »
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The G400 sounds perfect for me considering I love my MX518 bar its sweat-inducing glossy finish. Sadly it's not clear when it will appear in Europe, and I can get the MX518 for €25 so I just bought a second one of them instead.

I'm UK and just ordered direct from Logitech EU. Dispatched same day and arrived in 48 hours. Had a 20% off code from hot deals plus quidco cash back means it will probably work out at around £27 shipped.

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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 09:00:10 »
Seeing as how a mouse is very personal, hopefully people wont think im a troll for this post, as that is a common perception when it comes to my opinion of the 518, and by extension, now the g400. I really hate it. In fact, for me its an unusable mouse. Let me highlight exactly the problem as follows
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That outer bezel truly breaks the device for me, my fingers would constantly come down in an attempt to click, and end up pressing down on the plastic instead, resulting in no click whatsoever. I dont really grip my mouse far forwards, my hands are small, yet this issue was CONSTANT. I really dont see how this isnt a more common problem, or maybe it was just somehow specific to the one i bought, but thats just wishful thinking. I know im gonna get beat on for saying i use the deathadder instead, but eh, its a forum. I find all the complaints people have with the deathadder (bad shape, too big, etc) are really just a  function of an improper grip on the mouse. like i said, i have small hands, but with the proper grip the deathadder is truly baller. I tried changing the way i hold the mouse with the 518, i had no such luck. If someone wants to post pics on a proper way to hold it, im willing to try it out. (ill do the same with the deathadder if people start hating on it)
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Offline Tohveli

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« Reply #67 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 09:07:09 »
Nevermind
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« Reply #68 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 14:26:34 »
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Seeing as how a mouse is very personal, hopefully people wont think im a troll for this post, as that is a common perception when it comes to my opinion of the 518, and by extension, now the g400. I really hate it. In fact, for me its an unusable mouse. Let me highlight exactly the problem as follows
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That outer bezel truly breaks the device for me, my fingers would constantly come down in an attempt to click, and end up pressing down on the plastic instead, resulting in no click whatsoever. I dont really grip my mouse far forwards, my hands are small, yet this issue was CONSTANT. I really dont see how this isnt a more common problem, or maybe it was just somehow specific to the one i bought, but thats just wishful thinking. I know im gonna get beat on for saying i use the deathadder instead, but eh, its a forum. I find all the complaints people have with the deathadder (bad shape, too big, etc) are really just a  function of an improper grip on the mouse. like i said, i have small hands, but with the proper grip the deathadder is truly baller. I tried changing the way i hold the mouse with the 518, i had no such luck. If someone wants to post pics on a proper way to hold it, im willing to try it out. (ill do the same with the deathadder if people start hating on it)

I love both these mice. I also have really huge hands, and have never had a clicking issue with any of the 518 shaped mice (MX500, MX518, G5, G500, etc). I'm not sure how you hold your mouse, but I've seen plenty of people use these mice (the logitech shape), and not a single one has ever rested their fingers so far forward as to miss the buttons.

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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 15:16:50 »
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I love both these mice. I also have really huge hands, and have never had a clicking issue with any of the 518 shaped mice (MX500, MX518, G5, G500, etc). I'm not sure how you hold your mouse, but I've seen plenty of people use these mice (the logitech shape), and not a single one has ever rested their fingers so far forward as to miss the buttons.
Yeah thats why im confused. I WANT to love this mouse, but I keep having this issue. I hear SO much praise for it all around the interweb, and it saddens me that I apparently dont know how to use it. :|
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Offline hella

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« Reply #70 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 17:59:53 »
My mx518 literally just died today after five years of service.

I've gone through two mx518's, they're a tried and true mouse that'll outlast most of the competition.  I decided to mix things up and just pulled the trigger on a 1800dpi 3G (discontinued) deathadder, the only other mouse to outperform the mx518.  Hopefully this works just as well, if not better!

Offline spitfire6000

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« Reply #71 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 22:42:37 »
Yea the mx518 was an awesome mouse, but I dont like how much grime and dust and gook the rubber grips permanently attach to themselves. I had the mx510 and my ribber grip thingies had dead skin flakes in their grooves, gross, but i got used to it. I got the Logitech G500 with a razer scarab gaming mousepad about 2 months ago. and it has a totally different hard rough, dry surface that never stains or gets mucky. Its got a sandpaper like feel to it, and i dont feel any grip really being lost to the rubber ones I had before. I added thick teflon aftermarket mouse pads to 100% cover the mouse feet, and left all the weight cartridge + weight out of it. The thing slips and slides all over the mouse pad, like on an air hockey table.

My favorite thing about the g500 is its lack of rubber grips and on top of that a body style that will never look dirty. It doesn't get stuck to gook like the mx series did with those sticky rubber grips.

Most likely though, this new mouse will be better than the g500 i think in terms of control and feel, which is far more important than the useless 5700dpi that my mouse puts out. The mouse under optimal settings in setpoint, 5 speed 0 accel, all options tuned to maximize precision, 1000hz polling, you will never need anything above 2000dpi. I personally use 1400dpi, and this was after an entire month of obsessively trying to squeeze every last bit of accuracy out of it. I can do 1x1 pixel squares in paint over and over, even with 2000dpi, but anything over that is just too much.

I dont even understand why they make mice anymore with over 3000dpi, seems like all a marketing gimmick, since its never going to be used practically. setpoint settings 5 speed/ 0 accel, windows driver disabled, will give you as close to a 1:1 accuracy as you can get. So if you WERE to use anything over 2000 dpi, you would need to drop speed level, in which case the setpoint driver is deleting a good amount of the input, meaning your mouse is fighting your operating system's setpoint drivers to give you your desired speed and feel.

I am happy logitech left the dpi at 3000ish, at least there its not a total waste like 5700.

Offline daerid

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« Reply #72 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 23:00:44 »
I've never needed a mouse with more than 400dpi. My RAT 7, MX518, and Imperator all get clocked down to 400dpi, since my IE 3.0 uses that anyways.

And I loooooooooooooove my IE 3.0. That's the one mouse I'd keep if it came down to it.

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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 23:14:07 »
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...I dont even understand why they make mice anymore with over 3000dpi, seems like all a marketing gimmick, since its never going to be used practically. setpoint settings 5 speed/ 0 accel, windows driver disabled, will give you as close to a 1:1 accuracy as you can get. So if you WERE to use anything over 2000 dpi, you would need to drop speed level, in which case the setpoint driver is deleting a good amount of the input, meaning your mouse is fighting your operating system's setpoint drivers to give you your desired speed and feel.

I am happy logitech left the dpi at 3000ish, at least there its not a total waste like 5700.

It IS all marketing and taking advantage of ignorant consumers. Realistically unless you have godlike precision and delicate control you simply don't need anything more than what the mx518 is capable of.

Offline Wihl

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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 15 July 2011, 23:44:41 »
I was a long-time IE 3.0 user before I switched over to the MX518. When my second MX518 died I decided to try the IE 3.0 again but I found that it was impossible for me to use. The IE 3.0 has buttons that extend all the way to the front and to the left and right. That means that there is no place for me to rest my middle finger. I have always wanted to see an activation force test done on the IE 3.0 and the MX518 because the 3.0 feels extremely light to me. I can rest my finger without clicking on the MX518 but its a no go with the 3.0

In any case, I'm glad that they'll keep producing an MX518-style mouse, if they ever stop I'll probably have to buy a few so I have a few to go through before I'm all out.

Offline pitashen

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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 18 July 2011, 23:10:18 »
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I think its Logitech realizing that with the mx518, they had a winner, as proven by the constant high demand and sales of the device. What other gaming mouse has seen a 6 year production run?

Logitech G1 is still well and alive with updated 1000dpi in Asia such as Taiwan and Korea. Guess that beats it :)

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« Reply #76 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 00:40:34 »
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New Logitech G400 Gaming Mouse

Damnit, right when I spring for a new MX518... hopefully this proves to be a worth successor. And that rubberized grip, *yum*

You mean to say that you LIKE the rubber grip? The only thing that I don't like about my MX518 after 5+ years of use is that the rubber started to peel off. It got to the point where it was so ugly and nasty to hold that I sanded most of the rubber off. There's still a few spots of rubber I can't seem to take off though, which is pretty annoying.
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« Reply #77 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 15:00:47 »
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You mean to say that you LIKE the rubber grip? The only thing that I don't like about my MX518 after 5+ years of use is that the rubber started to peel off. It got to the point where it was so ugly and nasty to hold that I sanded most of the rubber off. There's still a few spots of rubber I can't seem to take off though, which is pretty annoying.

I love the rubberized grip. I don't grip my mice tightly at all, never had a problem with the finish wearing off. And the only thing I can't stand about the 518 is the glossy finish.

Offline Polaris

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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 19 July 2011, 22:08:14 »
the IE 3.0 would be a great mouse if it didnt feel like a cheap pos

Offline Elemental

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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 10:05:13 »
What I don't like about the G400 is that you can't turn off angle snapping. The G500 which I currently have has an option to either enable or disable it. I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker though. I'm very fond of the scroll wheel on my old MX500 and it seems the G400 has the same type of scroll wheel. Maybe I'll see if I can get one to try it out.

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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 12:28:11 »
That's strange. My mx518 started disconnecting recently. I got it a little more than 3 years ago, so it is out of warranty, but I called logitech anyway. Turns out they didn't even want the invoice or mouse back, and they're sending me the g500. Wonder why they aren't sending me this mouse. Seems like the closest match. Oh well, I've always wanted the g500 as my upgrade anyway =b.

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« Reply #81 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 13:53:42 »
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That's strange. My mx518 started disconnecting recently. I got it a little more than 3 years ago, so it is out of warranty, but I called logitech anyway. Turns out they didn't even want the invoice or mouse back, and they're sending me the g500. Wonder why they aren't sending me this mouse. Seems like the closest match. Oh well, I've always wanted the g500 as my upgrade anyway =b.


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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 14:03:23 »
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A lot of companies should learn from Logitech, starting from Razer

 
Yes, exactly. I got a razer deathadder with a computer a while back. The mouse came DOA. The mouse4 or mouse5 (can't remember which one) didn't click. They refused to do anything about it because I couldn't provide an invoice because it came bundled. I don't think I'll be buying from razer for a very long time.

Offline Elemental

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« Reply #83 on: Fri, 22 July 2011, 16:15:32 »
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Why just the other night I woke up in a cold sweat when I realized my MX518 couldn't turn off angle snapping.

Then I realized that any roller based trackball like the CST has HW angle snapping versus the Zirconium Dioxide white bearings on a Kensington/Logitech trackball.

Then I slept like a baby.

I don't know but I enabled angle snapping and tried to draw a straight line in paint and it's definitely easier to do that with angle snapping turned on on my G500. When it's turned off the line is more wobbly.
For gaming this might be a good thing (well duh it's a gaming mouse to begin with) because in most games you're going to look left/right/up/down often but I'm not sure if it's a good idea if you're using programs like Photoshop or something since it might interfere with what you're trying/want to do.

Offline Ulysses31

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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 26 July 2011, 17:25:29 »
I'm interested in getting this mouse, but with one condition.  It has to use the same micro-switches for all three mouse-buttons.  That's the only reason I use the MX518 after searching for so long for a Logitech mouse where they hadn't screwed up the middle mouse click by using one of those tiny little tactile switches.  Starting with the MX1000 (as far as I know) they've been using those cheap pieces of crap in most of their mice but they wear out very fast, especially troubling for someone who does a lot of 3D and CAD work like me.  That button is absolutely vital and the MX518 is the only mouse I know that is durable enough to last a while.  So, if anyone can confirm that the G400 has the same switches, or at least that it feels the same in use (mouse wheel button being springy with some give in it after being fully depressed) then that would be useful.

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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 26 July 2011, 17:34:36 »
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I'm interested in getting this mouse, but with one condition.  It has to use the same micro-switches for all three mouse-buttons.  That's the only reason I use the MX518 after searching for so long for a Logitech mouse where they hadn't screwed up the middle mouse click by using one of those tiny little tactile switches.  Starting with the MX1000 (as far as I know) they've been using those cheap pieces of crap in most of their mice but they wear out very fast, especially troubling for someone who does a lot of 3D and CAD work like me.  That button is absolutely vital and the MX518 is the only mouse I know that is durable enough to last a while.  So, if anyone can confirm that the G400 has the same switches, or at least that it feels the same in use (mouse wheel button being springy with some give in it after being fully depressed) then that would be useful.


As a long time Opera and Linux user, the middle click is vital for me, likely I use the middle button more than the left one, and In the latest years I had a VX revolution, a MX620, a M705, and a Mx revolution and I've never seen a failed middle switch (all the hyperwhhel based mouse have the low profile switch for the middle button).
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« Reply #86 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 11:31:41 »
I believe what he's talking about are the switches used in the mice between the MX518 and the introduction of the Hyperwheel (which is vastly superior). I will comment that the middle click on the G5 (both models) was horrible compared to the switches used on the MX518

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« Reply #87 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 19:25:18 »
I believe is not the switch that makes the difference, but the wheel assembly mechanism.

BTW I've never touched a g5, the only mouse with the stone age wheel I own is a V470 and the middle click works just fine.
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« Reply #88 on: Wed, 27 July 2011, 19:42:53 »
Quote from: panda;385434
Yes, exactly. I got a razer deathadder with a computer a while back. The mouse came DOA. The mouse4 or mouse5 (can't remember which one) didn't click. They refused to do anything about it because I couldn't provide an invoice because it came bundled. I don't think I'll be buying from razer for a very long time.

That sucks they've been helpful to me. Rma two mice with them two year warranty is pretty damn nice IMO.

But the big reason why I am a razer mouse user is their Mac support. My Naga, deathadder, and orochi all have native drivers for macros and customization of dpi, lighting etc.  That g400 does look sleek though. I'm a big fan of rubber, matte finish. Don't see myself leaving the razer brand until someone else steps up in terms of drivers.
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Offline daerid

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« Reply #89 on: Sat, 30 July 2011, 12:48:41 »
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I believe is not the switch that makes the difference, but the wheel assembly mechanism.

BTW I've never touched a g5, the only mouse with the stone age wheel I own is a V470 and the middle click works just fine.

To each their own. I can't stand the hyperscroll wheel personally.

Offline Brodie337

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« Reply #90 on: Sat, 30 July 2011, 17:49:28 »
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To each their own. I can't stand the hyperscroll wheel personally.

It took me a while to get used to at first, but I've come to like it, even when I'm not using the free scrolling. The metal wheel on my old Sidewinder X8 has given me a taste for heavier wheels than most I guess.

Offline 0mgVitaminE

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« Reply #91 on: Sat, 30 July 2011, 23:28:19 »
I like the idea, will probably get one when my mx518 goes out.  6 years of use and still works like a charm

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« Reply #92 on: Sun, 31 July 2011, 00:03:22 »
Just traded another GH'er my MX518 for the G400. Honestly, except for the finish and higher DPI, it feels exactly the same. Same switches and everything. It's probably my new favorite mouse.

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« Reply #93 on: Sun, 31 July 2011, 02:27:17 »
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Just traded another GH'er my MX518 for the G400. Honestly, except for the finish and higher DPI, it feels exactly the same. Same switches and everything. It's probably my new favorite mouse.

 
What pad are you using it on?

Offline Ulysses31

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« Reply #94 on: Sun, 31 July 2011, 13:29:45 »
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Just traded another GH'er my MX518 for the G400. Honestly, except for the finish and higher DPI, it feels exactly the same. Same switches and everything. It's probably my new favorite mouse.
That's all I needed to hear.  The MX518 is really light, so the thick cord it had would sometimes result in it pushing the mouse around as it tried to straighten itself.  Actually had to get used to the lightness because at first i'd be clicking and it would get interpreted as a click and drag.  The thinner cord on the new model should help.  Now if only they'd make a wireless one, i'd be able to stop missing my MX1000.

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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 17:17:58 »
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What pad are you using it on?

Razer Goliathus - the new one with the anti-stitch weaving. I honestly don't understand why every single mouse pad out there hasn't adopted that yet. It's the most genius thing I've ever come across in mouse pads.

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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 23:52:22 »
So it's still optical led with 3080?  Does it have any jitter throughout uneven dpi settings?

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« Reply #97 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 18:23:16 »
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Razer Goliathus - the new one with the anti-stitch weaving. I honestly don't understand why every single mouse pad out there hasn't adopted that yet. It's the most genius thing I've ever come across in mouse pads.

I had a goliathus control which claimed to be weaved.  Bought over a year ago is it different now?

Edit. Googled and yup it's different. Nice.
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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 23:19:42 »
What size Goliathus?

There seems to be two different shapes of the extended version, one being perfectly rectangular and one having cutouts on the longer two sides. I bought two at once and got one of each. I'm thinking that maybe the change in shape co-incides with the change in weave, but I can't be sure as one is the speed and one is control, so they're a different surface anyway.

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« Reply #99 on: Mon, 08 August 2011, 00:41:33 »
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What size Goliathus?

There seems to be two different shapes of the extended version, one being perfectly rectangular and one having cutouts on the longer two sides. I bought two at once and got one of each. I'm thinking that maybe the change in shape co-incides with the change in weave, but I can't be sure as one is the speed and one is control, so they're a different surface anyway.

I got the big one. The super sized one that you put your keyboard on.