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Title: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:02:43
There's this fine art of writing thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34504.0) and favorite pens/pencils threads (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32027.385). But they're pretty dead. I thought it might be fun to do a spinoff of the threads and focus on fountain pens.

(http://i.imgur.com/zmhwhBm.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:20:53
Koo thread.. that's a huge pictar..


Here's an old one by me.  i forgot which fp i used.. I THINK at the time i was using a pelican fine,  so that'd be ex fine if you're looking at western pens.

[attach=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brainT on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:22:46
Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:25:11
Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.

noodle is me fav because it doesn't clog EVER...   but it does turn dark in the tube and the black comes out a bit on the gray side.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:26:19
Never got into fountain pens but in write in all caps.  You can still tell capital letters.  My lower case capitals are just smaller.  Just a habit that I didn't let go of from the service.  But it did wonders for my penmanship.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:34:59
Koo thread.. that's a huge pictar..


Here's an old one by me.  i forgot which fp i used.. I THINK at the time i was using a pelican fine,  so that'd be ex fine if you're looking at western pens.

(Attachment Link)

Nice...wish I knew how to write Chinese. And Pelikan is a western pen yes? European nibs are like Japanese nibs? They run a little finer?

Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.

Pens in that picture are a TWSBI 580 (M) and a Pilot Metropolitan (M). The inks are Noodler's La Couleur Royale on top and De Atrementis Apple Blossom. I've been wanting to try a Noodler's pen for a while.

Never got into fountain pens but in write in all caps.  You can still tell capital letters.  My lower case capitals are just smaller.  Just a habit that I didn't let go of from the service.  But it did wonders for my penmanship.

(http://i.imgur.com/QaDYzkv.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brainT on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:42:19
Koo thread.. that's a huge pictar..


Here's an old one by me.  i forgot which fp i used.. I THINK at the time i was using a pelican fine,  so that'd be ex fine if you're looking at western pens.

(Attachment Link)

Nice...wish I knew how to write Chinese. And Pelikan is a western pen yes? European nibs are like Japanese nibs? They run a little finer?

Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.

Pens in that picture are a TWSBI 580 (M) and a Pilot Metropolitan (M). The inks are Noodler's La Couleur Royale on top and De Atrementis Apple Blossom. I've been wanting to try a Noodler's pen for a while.

Never got into fountain pens but in write in all caps.  You can still tell capital letters.  My lower case capitals are just smaller.  Just a habit that I didn't let go of from the service.  But it did wonders for my penmanship.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QaDYzkv.jpg?1)


Ah, I was drooling over a TWSBI Mini earlier today.  I may end up pulling the trigger on one after my bank account recovers a little from my other obsessions.  That and a Noodler Ahab...
Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.

noodle is me fav because it doesn't clog EVER...   but it does turn dark in the tube and the black comes out a bit on the gray side.

Their ink is awesome, especially if you're like me and get really lazy about cleaning the pen which I really ought to do soon.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:44:02
I'm borrowing a TWSBI 580 and a Vac 700 from a member of the local Cincinnati Pen Meetup group. If you're into that Mini, and can afford it, I'd recommend it. I've really been enjoying the pens and I've been looking at the Mini as well as the other two.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:47:11
I'm borrowing a TWSBI 580 and a Vac 700 from a member of the local Cincinnati Pen Meetup group. If you're into that Mini, and can afford it, I'd recommend it. I've really been enjoying the pens and I've been looking at the Mini as well as the other two.

how could anyone not afford it.. isn't it only $50 ?  that's not remotely like what i deem almost wasteful expense like some of the $500 stuff.. that stuff is totally uncalled for(http://eemoticons.net/Upload/big%20onion/th_54.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 June 2014, 21:48:00
Some people are students or have bills. We're not all rich like you :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brainT on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:03:15
I'm borrowing a TWSBI 580 and a Vac 700 from a member of the local Cincinnati Pen Meetup group. If you're into that Mini, and can afford it, I'd recommend it. I've really been enjoying the pens and I've been looking at the Mini as well as the other two.

how could anyone not afford it.. isn't it only $50 ?  that's not remotely like what i deem almost wasteful expense like some of the $500 stuff.. that stuff is totally uncalled for
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Heh I just bought a Poker 2 and a bunch of other tech stuff.  And then theirs the mortgage and the other fun things that go with becoming a first time homeowner.  And a wedding to plan/pay for.  At least I just got a promotion at work!

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:05:32
So I was about to come in here and ask if anyone writes in all caps.....clearly some of us have more in common than I realized :P

Oh and during my rebellious phase like 20yrs ago I swiped a fountain pen from walmart.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:42:21
So I was about to come in here and ask if anyone writes in all caps.....clearly some of us have more in common than I realized :P

Oh and during my rebellious phase like 20yrs ago I swiped a fountain pen from walmart.

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/whaaat2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862525)

Spam how could you...

it's one thing to steal movies on the internet.. whole other thing to nab f-pens from wally world.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:30:14
So I was about to come in here and ask if anyone writes in all caps.....clearly some of us have more in common than I realized :P

Oh and during my rebellious phase like 20yrs ago I swiped a fountain pen from walmart.

I didn't even know there were fountain pens at wal mart
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sacratoy on Mon, 09 June 2014, 23:33:47
(http://i.imgur.com/kK3ACEAl.jpg)

I use an Alvin DRAFTMATIC No.DM07 to write with. I think I bought this one 5 years ago. Still strong.

Personally, I'm left handed and write with a hook. Have yet to find a way to use a fountain pen with my writing style.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:31:58
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I use an Alvin DRAFTMATIC No.DM07 to write with. I think I bought this one 5 years ago. Still strong.

Personally, I'm left handed and write with a hook. Have yet to find a way to use a fountain pen with my writing style.

the only way for lefties, is to change the way you hold the f-pen..

which most wouldn't bother investing time to practice, not these days anyway.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HipsterPunks on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:47:13
So I was about to come in here and ask if anyone writes in all caps.....clearly some of us have more in common than I realized :P

Oh and during my rebellious phase like 20yrs ago I swiped a fountain pen from walmart.

I write in all caps, i have to make lists at work for others to read. My handwriting adapted from doing this everyday and became my personal font
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:51:20
All Caps is the de-facto print at work since I work with a lot of old draftsmen, engineer, and manufacturing people. I picked up the habit in a high school engineering class and it just stuck with me. But I can write in non-all-caps print as well as Palmer cursive (the cursive in the OP).

I'd like to learn Copperplate Script and Specerian as well. One style at a time though :)

And Sacratoy, I like drafting pencils too. I've got a Rotring 600 and 800.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:32:28
All Caps is the de-facto print at work since I work with a lot of old draftsmen, engineer, and manufacturing people. I picked up the habit in a high school engineering class and it just stuck with me. But I can write in non-all-caps print as well as Palmer cursive (the cursive in the OP).

I'd like to learn Copperplate Script and Specerian as well. One style at a time though :)

And Sacratoy, I like drafting pencils too. I've got a Rotring 600 and 800.

copperplate and spenc are not -practical- without an oblique flex pen.  You can get "close" with a regular calligraphy nib + writing at a 60deg angle.. but overall it won't have the dramatic impact of full-on spencerian because you can't produce as great a change in line weight within one character..

an easier style to break into would be gothic or miniscule...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:37:46
Gothic would be really cool too. And you're right. I don't have any flex nibs right now but I do have an italic.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:57:42
Gothic would be really cool too. And you're right. I don't have any flex nibs right now but I do have an italic.

If you do try gothic.. i'd assume it's cuz of the cool looking capitals...   Do not bother doing the capitals with an italic PEN..

do them with a Large flat marker..   they're not readily possible with an italic pen (unless it's more than 3mm wide)..

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 10 June 2014, 18:01:09
They're not possible with that attitude. I'll see how my experiments go first :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2014, 19:32:25
They're not possible with that attitude. I'll see how my experiments go first :D

go right ahead...  I bet you will not be able to get good precise-looking corners with an italic nib < 3mm  for making the capitals.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 10 June 2014, 20:11:09
Koo thread.. that's a huge pictar..


Here's an old one by me.  i forgot which fp i used.. I THINK at the time i was using a pelican fine,  so that'd be ex fine if you're looking at western pens.

(Attachment Link)

Nice...wish I knew how to write Chinese. And Pelikan is a western pen yes? European nibs are like Japanese nibs? They run a little finer?

Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.

Pens in that picture are a TWSBI 580 (M) and a Pilot Metropolitan (M). The inks are Noodler's La Couleur Royale on top and De Atrementis Apple Blossom. I've been wanting to try a Noodler's pen for a while.

Never got into fountain pens but in write in all caps.  You can still tell capital letters.  My lower case capitals are just smaller.  Just a habit that I didn't let go of from the service.  But it did wonders for my penmanship.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QaDYzkv.jpg?1)


ditto.............i write in all caps as well-- kind of carried over from when i was in the navy.

it also carried over in my job with architectural drawings, etc.

if your handwriting is not the best (as mine) a good tuned fountain pen can definitely improve your chicken scratch and if you are not doing fine detail work-- the wider the better or about .8 to 1.3mm

i find italics and music nibs with a little flex to be the best
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 10 June 2014, 20:17:25
Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.

noodle is me fav because it doesn't clog EVER...   but it does turn dark in the tube and the black comes out a bit on the gray side.

ditto again........... which black are you using? i have never had a clogging issue with noodlers-- although i still am leary about putting some of the more exotic colors in my vac's, snorkels.

the pelikan piston fillers though are pretty good and you can ink them up with almost

my bulletproof black dries pretty intense :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2014, 22:17:56
Is that a Noodler on the bottom?  Been thinking about picking one up.  Using a Lamy Safari + Noodler's black at the moment.

noodle is me fav because it doesn't clog EVER...   but it does turn dark in the tube and the black comes out a bit on the gray side.

ditto again........... which black are you using? i have never had a clogging issue with noodlers-- although i still am leary about putting some of the more exotic colors in my vac's, snorkels.

the pelikan piston fillers though are pretty good and you can ink them up with almost

my bulletproof black dries pretty intense :thumb:

i was an early adopter of bulletproof..  perhaps my early batch wasn't as good as your newer ones..   
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: barihunk on Tue, 10 June 2014, 23:24:44
Koo thread.. that's a huge pictar..


Here's an old one by me.  i forgot which fp i used.. I THINK at the time i was using a pelican fine,  so that'd be ex fine if you're looking at western pens.

(Attachment Link)

Wow you have the most awesome mandarin penmanship! Wish I could write mandarin like that - it's been far too long since I had to write in mandarin. English is fine but mandarin... whoa.

Here are some of mine.

[attach=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2014, 23:30:55
Koo thread.. that's a huge pictar..


Here's an old one by me.  i forgot which fp i used.. I THINK at the time i was using a pelican fine,  so that'd be ex fine if you're looking at western pens.

(Attachment Link)

Wow you have the most awesome mandarin penmanship! Wish I could write mandarin like that - it's been far too long since I had to write in mandarin. English is fine but mandarin... whoa.

Here are some of mine.

(Attachment Link)

Haha.. thx..  I like your writing too..  if I were to describe your chinese writing..  有点天真.. but only a little... just a tad.


 (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 11 June 2014, 08:49:18
(http://i.imgur.com/ZHVXPFN.jpg)

edit: a translation might be needed :P

More
Hi GeekHack!

I've had crappy writing for as long as I can remember, but over the last few weeks have been trying to improve it. After CPT gave me my first fountain pen, I got a Lamy Safari and I'm really enjoying it. O.K., back to work for me!

- riot
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 June 2014, 08:51:55
Wow you have the most awesome mandarin penmanship! Wish I could write mandarin like that - it's been far too long since I had to write in mandarin. English is fine but mandarin... whoa.

Here are some of mine.

(Attachment Link)

Barihunk, how are you liking that VP? I'm really considering getting one. Especially since they're on sale on Amazon.



If people want to try fountain pens, you can buy the disposable Pilot Varsity pens at Staples. The nibs are really nice, they're cheap (~$7 for 3), and you don't have to do any maintenance if you don't want. I've also been giving them out to people who have been interested so PM me and maybe we can work something out :D.



Looking good riot :D. Wish I could take pictures at work :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 11 June 2014, 09:10:44
(http://i.imgur.com/12Ap8hC.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 June 2014, 09:35:21
(http://i.imgur.com/EQiq8tr.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 June 2014, 10:22:24
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Pretty sure a girl wrote the first set. The last set is my favorite!! ;) :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: osi on Wed, 11 June 2014, 10:38:40
[attachimg=1]

Top is how I write 99% of the time.

The middle is for the few times that I don't use block lettering. Usually only when I need to write fast. I mixed standard and cursive styles and also rarely lift the writing utensil unless I need to dot an I or something like that.

The bottom is my attempt to write in a normal non cursive case. I never write like that
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bazh on Wed, 11 June 2014, 11:05:12
my parents always complain about my handwritting :(

(http://pik.vn/2014ccf110b1-ad44-427f-9c8c-5dee9c5e018b.jpeg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 June 2014, 11:21:15
my parents always complain about my handwritting :(

Show Image
(http://pik.vn/2014ccf110b1-ad44-427f-9c8c-5dee9c5e018b.jpeg)


Okay, but now you have to show us Vietnamese! Not that many could understand what you write, but that's beside the point...


Also, your handwriting doesn't suck. Far from it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 11 June 2014, 14:22:12
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edit: lol inb4 someone nicks this pic and posts in on a tumblr about glorifying depression and self harm, this looks like something people would post on those
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 11 June 2014, 14:46:34
You people and your fancy legible handwriting:

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 11 June 2014, 16:14:01
You people and your fancy legible handwriting:

(Attachment Link)

I remember there was a distinct pocket of kids in my 1st and 2nd grade class that refused to do the -copy-assignments- (dictionary definitions, words on the board, etc).  and they just sat in the corner playing with the legos..

Were you one of these rebels CLIB ?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: vun on Wed, 11 June 2014, 16:35:09
(http://i.imgur.com/aOO9Opa.jpg)

Now imagine what it looks like when I'm taking notes in a hurry
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 11 June 2014, 16:37:28
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/aOO9Opa.jpg)


Now imagine what it looks like when I'm taking notes in a hurry

roughly something like this i imagine:
----------____-------<--___--__>---~~_________^
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bazh on Thu, 12 June 2014, 01:50:13

my parents always complain about my handwritting :(

Show Image
(http://pik.vn/2014ccf110b1-ad44-427f-9c8c-5dee9c5e018b.jpeg)


Okay, but now you have to show us Vietnamese! Not that many could understand what you write, but that's beside the point...


Also, your handwriting doesn't suck. Far from it.

As you demand :p

(http://pik.vn/201461a3fadb-e5f7-47f7-b1d2-5c2399274e99.jpeg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Thu, 12 June 2014, 01:51:05
Seeing as we apparently type way too much here...

[attachimg=1]

<transcript below since my handwriting can be pretty indecipherable>

hello Geekhack!

Fountain pens has [sic] been a hobby of mine for quite a while now... about 6 years or so. Collecting and using, then and now, both pens and inks, as well as other stuff like paper/notebooks too.

Thanks to them, I've bettered my penmanship; but I also have other styles of handwriting, based on the situation, as some people may find my regular writing tough to read.

Sometimes I also vary it based on the pen and paper I'm using, as some pens write very wide and therefore need to be handled in a different way.

However I also just like to vary it based on what I feel like; playing with fountain pens is fun.

Pens used in this post, from the top:
Omas Milord w/ Diamine Sapphire Blue;
Mont Blanc Herbert von Karajan with Sailor Tokiwa Matsu;
Lamy 2000 with a green ink I mixed;
Kaweco Elite 587 with Rohrer & Klingner Alt-goldgrun;
Sailor ProGear Realo and Sailor Shigure;
and a TWSBI Vac 700 I just turned to a cursive italic.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:36:11
Seeing as we apparently type way too much here...

(Attachment Link)

<transcript below since my handwriting can be pretty indecipherable>

hello Geekhack!

Fountain pens has [sic] been a hobby of mine for quite a while now... about 6 years or so. Collecting and using, then and now, both pens and inks, as well as other stuff like paper/notebooks too.

Thanks to them, I've bettered my penmanship; but I also have other styles of handwriting, based on the situation, as some people may find my regular writing tough to read.

Sometimes I also vary it based on the pen and paper I'm using, as some pens write very wide and therefore need to be handled in a different way.

However I also just like to vary it based on what I feel like; playing with fountain pens is fun.

Pens used in this post, from the top:
Omas Milord w/ Diamine Sapphire Blue;
Mont Blanc Herbert von Karajan with Sailor Tokiwa Matsu;
Lamy 2000 with a green ink I mixed;
Kaweco Elite 587 with Rohrer & Klingner Alt-goldgrun;
Sailor ProGear Realo and Sailor Shigure; and a TWSBI Vac 700 I just turned to a cursive italic.

Nice pens! I really like the Diamine Sapphire Blue.

Is that Kaweco Elite 587 the same as a Dialog 2? It looks very similar at least. And you ground the nib in the Vac 700 yourself?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 12 June 2014, 08:03:42
Seeing as we apparently type way too much here...

(Attachment Link)

<transcript below since my handwriting can be pretty indecipherable>

hello Geekhack!

Fountain pens has [sic] been a hobby of mine for quite a while now... about 6 years or so. Collecting and using, then and now, both pens and inks, as well as other stuff like paper/notebooks too.

Thanks to them, I've bettered my penmanship; but I also have other styles of handwriting, based on the situation, as some people may find my regular writing tough to read.

Sometimes I also vary it based on the pen and paper I'm using, as some pens write very wide and therefore need to be handled in a different way.

However I also just like to vary it based on what I feel like; playing with fountain pens is fun.

Pens used in this post, from the top:
Omas Milord w/ Diamine Sapphire Blue;
Mont Blanc Herbert von Karajan with Sailor Tokiwa Matsu;
Lamy 2000 with a green ink I mixed;
Kaweco Elite 587 with Rohrer & Klingner Alt-goldgrun;
Sailor ProGear Realo and Sailor Shigure; and a TWSBI Vac 700 I just turned to a cursive italic.

Nice pens! I really like the Diamine Sapphire Blue.

Is that Kaweco Elite 587 the same as a Dialog 2? It looks very similar at least. And you ground the nib in the Vac 700 yourself?

hmm... i would also really like to file down an italic to maybe 30deg.. 

any tips on this...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 12 June 2014, 08:52:30
I don't have very nice handwriting :(
My letters are not very equally sized, I think that's the main problem. And I don't write cursive usually so that's why that doesn't look as nice as it once did :rolleyes:

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 08:58:49
That Lamy ABC is awesome haha. I can't wait to get a Pelikano Jr.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 12 June 2014, 09:01:32
That Lamy ABC is awesome haha. I can't wait to get a Pelikano Jr.

They used to come with yellow stickers instead of the white ones they have now, I didn't like the yellow at all as a kid but it was necessary as most people had one of these :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 09:20:33

my parents always complain about my handwritting :(

Show Image
(http://pik.vn/2014ccf110b1-ad44-427f-9c8c-5dee9c5e018b.jpeg)


Okay, but now you have to show us Vietnamese! Not that many could understand what you write, but that's beside the point...


Also, your handwriting doesn't suck. Far from it.

As you demand :p

Show Image
(http://pik.vn/201461a3fadb-e5f7-47f7-b1d2-5c2399274e99.jpeg)


Very nice! I love seeing how people write in their native languages.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Thu, 12 June 2014, 11:44:56
Nice pens! I really like the Diamine Sapphire Blue.

Is that Kaweco Elite 587 the same as a Dialog 2? It looks very similar at least. And you ground the nib in the Vac 700 yourself?

The Elite 587 looks like this (http://images10.fotosik.pl/2723/068622ae1c90bccb.jpg) (though mine is missing two of the gold cap rings and the picture there has one missing). It's an old pen from the 1950s I got for a steal from eBay. Was worried that the piston seal, which is made of cork, was already dried up and deteriorated, but it was working perfectly - what a miracle. The best part is definitely the flexible OBB nib, which is stubby. Amazing line variation, and writes very wet!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10295565_10204201314942733_6435235384952890138_o.jpg)

The Vac 700, indeed I ground myself, just last night. I do a bit of work on the side, doing nib grinds and pen adjustments for the local fountain pen group, and this was just another of the requests I got.


hmm... i would also really like to file down an italic to maybe 30deg.. 

any tips on this...

Hmm, do you mean grinding a pen nib to an oblique nib? The general process is that I use rough micromesh or even sandpaper to remove material and shape the nib, then I use an ultra-fine Arkansas stone to re-shape, smoothen, and polish the nib. The rest of the equation is just practice and building technique.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 12 June 2014, 12:14:07
Seeing as we apparently type way too much here...

(Attachment Link)

<transcript below since my handwriting can be pretty indecipherable>

hello Geekhack!

Fountain pens has [sic] been a hobby of mine for quite a while now... about 6 years or so. Collecting and using, then and now, both pens and inks, as well as other stuff like paper/notebooks too.

Thanks to them, I've bettered my penmanship; but I also have other styles of handwriting, based on the situation, as some people may find my regular writing tough to read.

Sometimes I also vary it based on the pen and paper I'm using, as some pens write very wide and therefore need to be handled in a different way.

However I also just like to vary it based on what I feel like; playing with fountain pens is fun.

Pens used in this post, from the top:
Omas Milord w/ Diamine Sapphire Blue;
Mont Blanc Herbert von Karajan with Sailor Tokiwa Matsu;
Lamy 2000 with a green ink I mixed;
Kaweco Elite 587 with Rohrer & Klingner Alt-goldgrun;
Sailor ProGear Realo and Sailor Shigure;
and a TWSBI Vac 700 I just turned to a cursive italic.

Nice pens! I really like the Diamine Sapphire Blue.

Is that Kaweco Elite 587 the same as a Dialog 2? It looks very similar at least. And you ground the nib in the Vac 700 yourself?

The Elite 587 looks like this (http://images10.fotosik.pl/2723/068622ae1c90bccb.jpg) (though mine is missing two of the gold cap rings and the picture there has one missing). It's an old pen from the 1950s I got for a steal from eBay. Was worried that the piston seal, which is made of cork, was already dried up and deteriorated, but it was working perfectly - what a miracle. The best part is definitely the flexible OBB nib, which is stubby. Amazing line variation, and writes very wet!

Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10295565_10204201314942733_6435235384952890138_o.jpg)


The Vac 700, indeed I ground myself, just last night. I do a bit of work on the side, doing nib grinds and pen adjustments for the local fountain pen group, and this was just another of the requests I got.


hmm... i would also really like to file down an italic to maybe 30deg.. 

any tips on this...

Hmm, do you mean grinding a pen nib to an oblique nib? The general process is that I use rough micromesh or even sandpaper to remove material and shape the nib, then I use an ultra-fine Arkansas stone to re-shape, smoothen, and polish the nib. The rest of the equation is just practice and building technique.

Wow, the "hello Geekhack" in the first picture almost looks like it was typed out! Fountain pens have such cool line variation.
Very neat handwriting, too!

I think as a kid, I tried to play with my dad's fountain pen, but it just ended up scratching the paper without any ink coming out/ then started leaking. :(
Never touched a fountain pen since.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:34:33
Today I tried my first Pelikan!!! It's a blue marbled, pre-'97, Pelikan M200. The weird part is that it's got this super fun vintage nib. It's a 14K music nib. :D

(http://i.imgur.com/7iR6tyu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TQtjGQ4.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/sYYKXyu.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/IP965e5.jpg)

Terrpn where you at? I need to thank you!!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 19:53:27
Anyone ever use a nib holder pen and India ink? I remember doing that "back in the day."
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 20:04:37
I haven't personally but I've seen some incredible handwriting from that. Check it out in this post on FPN (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/220874-dont-just-tell-us-about-the-pen-youre-using-show-us/?p=2800620).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 12 June 2014, 20:34:40
Anyone ever use a nib holder pen and India ink? I remember doing that "back in the day."

not india ink, but dip pens............yebber-- all the time ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 12 June 2014, 20:36:17
Today I tried my first Pelikan!!! It's a blue marbled, pre-'97, Pelikan M200. The weird part is that it's got this super fun vintage nib. It's a 14K music nib. :D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7iR6tyu.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TQtjGQ4.jpg?1)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sYYKXyu.jpg?1)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IP965e5.jpg)


Terrpn where you at? I need to thank you!!

nice handwriting there :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 June 2014, 20:40:07
The Pelikan and it's nib makes my handwriting look way nicer than I think it is :3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:14:20
Thought you guys might like this one.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:40:16
Thought you guys might like this one.


I'm tried a glass dip pen a few times.. 

I don't see a point to it really..   there's no real advantage to it in my opinion. the tip might be more durable, but what's the point..  it's pretty damn hard to wear tips out given proper use of fountain pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:42:16
If you're trying to test a lot of inks at once, it's really easy to do so with a dip glass pen. Don't need to flush the pen every time.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 June 2014, 19:21:41
If you're trying to test a lot of inks at once, it's really easy to do so with a dip glass pen. Don't need to flush the pen every time.

test lots of inks.. hmm I must admit, I don't do comparisons, i just write with black and blue, so they're all pretty much the same....

most blacks are grey-ish, and most blues have black bits in them, some are genuine blue, but i find them too light..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: IonutZ on Sat, 14 June 2014, 12:11:03
Holy smokes Zeroblade... that super flex nib is super flexible :o

I collect fountain pens too... this is my favorite: )

Pelikan M640 Polar Lights edition with a 18ct white gold oblique bold nib.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 12:26:50
Has anyone taken a stab at making a demonstrator eyedropper from the body of a Lamy Vista Rollerball and the section / nib from a Lamy Vista?

I want to make the plunge, but i am hesitant because all the instructions and outcomes seem a little too good to be true!

I use a ton of red ink for work and refilling just seems tedious as does setting up an Ahab to write properly.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:53:37
Has anyone taken a stab at making a demonstrator eyedropper from the body of a Lamy Vista Rollerball and the section / nib from a Lamy Vista?

I want to make the plunge, but i am hesitant because all the instructions and outcomes seem a little too good to be true!

I use a ton of red ink for work and refilling just seems tedious as does setting up an Ahab to write properly.


what type of work is this..  I've always found ball point and marker more convenient vs the restricted writing angle on fountain pens when it comes to "work".
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 June 2014, 13:56:52
Has anyone taken a stab at making a demonstrator eyedropper from the body of a Lamy Vista Rollerball and the section / nib from a Lamy Vista?

I want to make the plunge, but i am hesitant because all the instructions and outcomes seem a little too good to be true!

I use a ton of red ink for work and refilling just seems tedious as does setting up an Ahab to write properly.

I've seen a video of this, it seems pretty easy and failsafe. Actually, all the pen mods I've seen seem easy compared to keyboards.

Pelikan M640 Polar Lights edition with a 18ct white gold oblique bold nib.

Damn that is a fine looking pen. Could you do a writing sample of that OB Bold nib against something like a medium or broad?



Some of today's writing practice. Only because riot asked so nicely.

(http://i.imgur.com/H4v72XY.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 14 June 2014, 14:54:02
Has anyone taken a stab at making a demonstrator eyedropper from the body of a Lamy Vista Rollerball and the section / nib from a Lamy Vista?

I want to make the plunge, but i am hesitant because all the instructions and outcomes seem a little too good to be true!

I use a ton of red ink for work and refilling just seems tedious as does setting up an Ahab to write properly.

I've seen a video of this, it seems pretty easy and failsafe. Actually, all the pen mods I've seen seem easy compared to keyboards.

Pelikan M640 Polar Lights edition with a 18ct white gold oblique bold nib.

Damn that is a fine looking pen. Could you do a writing sample of that OB Bold nib against something like a medium or broad?


should work...........just on the safe side make sure there is some sort of o ring to screw down on or use silicone grease to make a seal. some people do this without grease or an o ring, crank down the barrel tightening down on the section and crack it :(

i do not own a lamy demonstrator roller and am not sure if there is a vent hole in the barrel?

if so once again just plug with some silicone and you should be fine

do you have an eye dropper or syringe to use to fill with with?

eye droppers are great and hold a TON of ink.

be careful filling demonstrators with exotic colors, even reds.............they will stain the plastic depending on the manufacturer
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 14 June 2014, 15:04:08
i do not own a lamy demonstrator roller and am not sure if there is a vent hole in the barrel?

For the Lamy Safari eye dropper, you can do it two ways.

1) Swap in the rollerball barrel which doesn't have the ink window

2) Put epoxy on the ink window of the original fountain pen barrel
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: longweight on Sat, 14 June 2014, 15:27:14
I love writing with my fountain pen, I mix up the ink every refill and I rotate around 12 Mont Blanc inks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 14 June 2014, 15:30:12
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 June 2014, 16:58:08
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brush pens are neat..

but I've found that they don't produce consistent edges.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: longweight on Sat, 14 June 2014, 17:27:12
I really wish that I had 1/10th that skill, I write like a child.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 14 June 2014, 18:34:49
I really wish that I had 1/10th that skill, I write like a child.

this part i do not understand.. you buy all the gear.. do you not use them?  like those kids with expensive guitars who just shows it off, but never practice?

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/confused-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 14 June 2014, 19:20:53
I really wish that I had 1/10th that skill, I write like a child.

........but you do write ;D

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: longweight on Sun, 15 June 2014, 02:00:33
I really wish that I had 1/10th that skill, I write like a child.

this part i do not understand.. you buy all the gear.. do you not use them?  like those kids with expensive guitars who just shows it off, but never practice?

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/confused-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)



I use them all the time!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Sun, 15 June 2014, 06:53:41
Wow, the "hello Geekhack" in the first picture almost looks like it was typed out! Fountain pens have such cool line variation.
Very neat handwriting, too!

I think as a kid, I tried to play with my dad's fountain pen, but it just ended up scratching the paper without any ink coming out/ then started leaking. :(
Never touched a fountain pen since.

Hahaha, I've got another which can flex up to about 3mm wide or so! I don't use it much though since it's an eyedropper-fill pen from around 1910, and it sometimes leaks a bit. I have some friends whose pens are just as flexible for so.

Before I seriously got into fountain pens, I also tried them as a kid - just ended up flicking the ink around like the kid I was LOL

Holy smokes Zeroblade... that super flex nib is super flexible :o

I collect fountain pens too... this is my favorite: )

Pelikan M640 Polar Lights edition with a 18ct white gold oblique bold nib.

The Polar Lights is really pretty! Though my favorite of Pelikan's Nature series is still the Niagra Falls.

[attachimg=1]

Speaking of Pelikan, I've had the good fortune to be able to play around with the special edition M800 in Tortoiseshell, with a rare triple-broad (BBB) nib, ground to a cursive italic. A friend of mine wanted me to tune it up and smoothen the nib even more. So in the meantime, I'll be enjoying it 'til he gets it back! (I wish he never does)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 15 June 2014, 15:19:36
howz this cpt[badass]?

just a sampling of what i got.........

most of my better stuff is boxed and put away :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 15:24:35
That pen display...wow. I really like that Esterbrook display. And the M800 is lovely.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: IonutZ on Sun, 15 June 2014, 19:14:07
CPTBadAss here's a sample of my Fine nibs, I don't have any broad nibs :\

(http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/uploads/post-49675-0-62042800-1291787009.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 June 2014, 19:21:34
That's a lovely collection IonutZ. I tried a Meisterstuck 149 a couple weeks ago and I enjoyed it. Not sure if I'd be wiling to pay that price but I liked writing with it :). And I actually didn't like that Noodler's rollerball pen. I had two bad experiences with them and I think I'm over them.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: IonutZ on Mon, 16 June 2014, 10:10:39
That's a lovely collection IonutZ. I tried a Meisterstuck 149 a couple weeks ago and I enjoyed it. Not sure if I'd be wiling to pay that price but I liked writing with it :). And I actually didn't like that Noodler's rollerball pen. I had two bad experiences with them and I think I'm over them.

Thank you sir! The Montblanc is definitely a nice piece, that was my graduation present from my parents. And since I'm a classical pianist, I thought the Chopin special edition was a nice touch haha. Yea I stopped using that rollerball... those things are really finicky on the type of ink you put in them.

Speaking of Pelikan, I've had the good fortune to be able to play around with the special edition M800 in Tortoiseshell, with a rare triple-broad (BBB) nib, ground to a cursive italic. A friend of mine wanted me to tune it up and smoothen the nib even more. So in the meantime, I'll be enjoying it 'til he gets it back! (I wish he never does)

Haha that was gonna be my next purchase I really like the M800 Tortoise shell... although... have you seen the Kyokko & Gekko limited edition?!!??!?!?

(http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/vfs-public/exclusive/products/limited-edition/moonlight-large.png)
(http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/vfs-public/exclusive/products/limited-edition/m-1000-raden-sunlight-large.png)

These things are to die for. $2k
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 June 2014, 10:12:08
I've been drooling over those Pelikan Raden pens since I discovered what Raden was....WHY WOULD YOU LINK IT AGAIN :( :P

That rollerball's wick feed keeps clogging on me....even when I use Noodler's inks. And that's a cool story about your MB :D.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Tue, 17 June 2014, 22:54:45
I don't even know why I hang out here with the money you all tempt me to spend. I mean, the keyboards are bad enough, but now this?

Well, I look forward to my first fountain pen (Pilot Metropolitan) and some sample inks. Thanks a lot!  :rolleyes: ;)

PS The Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Guri (chestnut brown) looks like it will be very nice on off-white paper.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 18 June 2014, 23:20:11
tryin to ruin you of course and make ya like the rest of us :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 20 June 2014, 05:56:12
I don't even know why I hang out here with the money you all tempt me to spend. I mean, the keyboards are bad enough, but now this?

Well, I look forward to my first fountain pen (Pilot Metropolitan) and some sample inks. Thanks a lot!  :rolleyes: ;)

PS The Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Guri (chestnut brown) looks like it will be very nice on off-white paper.

You messed up your order. Where's the nice paper?! :P

And GH has led me to fountain pens and audiophile gear as well as keyboards :(.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Sun, 22 June 2014, 11:25:20
I don't even know why I hang out here with the money you all tempt me to spend. I mean, the keyboards are bad enough, but now this?

Well, I look forward to my first fountain pen (Pilot Metropolitan) and some sample inks. Thanks a lot!  :rolleyes: ;)

PS The Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Guri (chestnut brown) looks like it will be very nice on off-white paper.

You messed up your order. Where's the nice paper?! :P

And GH has led me to fountain pens and audiophile gear as well as keyboards :(.

Fortunately, I already have ample audio stuff (home recording studio).

The thing is, with fountain pens, 8 keyboards, etc... people are going to start expecting me to produce some content soon :rolleyes:

Same with the recording stuff... 4 guitars, production studio, etc, and nothing gets made because I'm tied down with work these days.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:08:16
(http://i.imgur.com/lJDDyDT.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: osi on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:36:23
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Yes
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 22 June 2014, 15:01:16
yes.................. you win the prize :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 June 2014, 15:19:13
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lJDDyDT.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/9GRStTO.jpg?1)

I made some progress in learning how to write with my music nib! The F's look so good :D.

(http://i.imgur.com/wemT7p6.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 22 June 2014, 15:26:11
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9GRStTO.jpg?1)


I made some progress in learning how to write with my music nib! The F's look so good :D.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wemT7p6.jpg)


There is an f in vabbects?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 22 June 2014, 15:28:05
There is an f in vabbects?

This isn't my Sütterlinschrift practice ok?? Palmer cursive. :(

Affects.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 22 June 2014, 15:39:54
This isn't my Sütterlinschrift practice ok?? Palmer cursive. :(

Affects.

I'm just joking, looking good! :thumb:
That ink is quite nice! I'm such a boring person, I use black ink :-X
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: IonutZ on Sun, 22 June 2014, 16:23:14
^hahaha what he said.


Vabbects
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Frenir on Sun, 22 June 2014, 16:33:57
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(http://i.imgur.com/lJDDyDT.jpg)

Needs more hidden Illuminati symbols.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 22 June 2014, 16:56:42
Needs more hidden Illuminati symbols.

You must be joking:

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 22 June 2014, 17:38:21
(http://i.imgur.com/NaKoa8g.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Frenir on Sun, 22 June 2014, 17:41:30
Needs more hidden Illuminati symbols.

You must be joking:

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Snap, truly hidden symbolism. I'm in awe.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 22 June 2014, 18:04:36
nice...........
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 22 June 2014, 19:06:18
head of the illuminati should know how to triangle, c'mon guys...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 23 June 2014, 04:26:34
head of the illuminati should know how to triangle, c'mon guys...

Or at least ambigram
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 23 June 2014, 12:46:07
head of the illuminati should know how to triangle, c'mon guys...

Or at least ambigram

get ur plasma cutter out melvang............u can do or make anything

go (airdale) nav.............
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:25:19
Got my Pilot Metropolitans (a fine and a medium) in the mail Monday from Gouletpens. I'm enjoying writing with these... it's getting me back into calligraphy and the art of writing/sketching.

Picked up some sample inks as well that I'm looking forward to trying out.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:29:58
head of the illuminati should know how to triangle, c'mon guys...

Or at least ambigram

get ur plasma cutter out melvang............u can do or make anything

go (airdale) nav.............

Don't have one at home, but I do have one I can use at work.

CPTBADASS
[attach=1]

TacticalStache
[attach=2]

These are from www.flipscript.com
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:04:46
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9GRStTO.jpg?1)


I made some progress in learning how to write with my music nib! The F's look so good :D.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wemT7p6.jpg)


There is an f in vabbects?

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:56:57
head of the illuminati should know how to triangle, c'mon guys...

Or at least ambigram

get ur plasma cutter out melvang............u can do or make anything

go (airdale) nav.............

Don't have one at home, but I do have one I can use at work.

CPTBADASS
(Attachment Link)

TacticalStache
(Attachment Link)

These are from www.flipscript.com

bring it brother............

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Wed, 25 June 2014, 22:59:53
head of the illuminati should know how to triangle, c'mon guys...

Or at least ambigram

get ur plasma cutter out melvang............u can do or make anything

go (airdale) nav.............

Don't have one at home, but I do have one I can use at work.

CPTBADASS
(Attachment Link)

TacticalStache
(Attachment Link)

These are from www.flipscript.com

bring it brother............

That would be a nice tattoo but I already have an idea for my AM tattoo.  Just gotta get my medals/ribbons done first.  Sorry for off topic.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 June 2014, 10:13:05
To all the GHers into fountain pens, I found something really cool!!

These are IBM branded Pilot Varsity pens! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/291059738320?lpid=82).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 27 June 2014, 21:50:50
head of the illuminati should know how to triangle, c'mon guys...

Or at least ambigram

get ur plasma cutter out melvang............u can do or make anything

go (airdale) nav.............

Don't have one at home, but I do have one I can use at work.

CPTBADASS
(Attachment Link)

TacticalStache
(Attachment Link)

These are from www.flipscript.com

bring it brother............

That would be a nice tattoo but I already have an idea for my AM tattoo.  Just gotta get my medals/ribbons done first.  Sorry for off topic.

better than my anchor i got in san diego fer sure............. :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 27 June 2014, 21:53:15
To all the GHers into fountain pens, I found something really cool!!

These are IBM branded Pilot Varsity pens! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/291059738320?lpid=82).

so that would explain the pilot nibs..........
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 28 June 2014, 12:50:27
A gift from my girlfriend:

(http://i.imgur.com/BSIS8Mg.png)

TWSBI Mini Clear Demonstrator, Extra-fine
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 28 June 2014, 12:58:36
A gift from my girlfriend:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BSIS8Mg.png)


TWSBI Mini Clear Demonstrator, Extra-fine

nice and congrats..............

how is the nib?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 28 June 2014, 13:07:35
A gift from my girlfriend:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BSIS8Mg.png)


TWSBI Mini Clear Demonstrator, Extra-fine

nice and congrats..............

how is the nib?

Quite smooth. Doesn't feel like it needs to break in. Nibs I've tried are Pilot Metro M and Lamy M and F, and this is at least as smooth as all those.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 28 June 2014, 16:56:41
Ooo TWSBI mini? I was holding out for the 580USA but was seriously considering the mini too. I've decided anything smaller than a medium isn't for me though. XF is crazy @.@
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 28 June 2014, 17:14:31
Ooo TWSBI mini? I was holding out for the 580USA but was seriously considering the mini too. I've decided anything smaller than a medium isn't for me though. XF is crazy @.@

I've kinda developed this small, tight script that causes things like e's, o's, a's, etc. to lose definition if I use anything bigger than a fine. My girlfriend saw this, new I was eyeing a TWSBI mini, and got me the EF. I think I'm going to get a 1.1 stub nib for it as well next time I place an order from Goulet.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 June 2014, 10:34:45
Ah, I've had that problem and I'm trying to work on writing larger. Opening up my script has helped me improve my handwriting because it's easier to see my mistakes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 29 June 2014, 12:00:52
there are times when you need to write small or tight and a f or xf is needed

gotta have the right tools for the right job.

that's why you also need a wider nib or signatures, etc.

i actually have a needle point when needing to go small and am glad i have it-- example when needing to write small on an architectural set of drawings on details off an elevation
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 July 2014, 10:07:04
I keep a F on hand for drawings at work but those are typically marked with pencils anyways.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 02 July 2014, 11:21:20
I keep a F on hand for drawings at work but those are typically marked with pencils anyways.

right..............., i guess i should have said when the hard copy goes out to the architect for approval

but u right, everything else on the drawings be pencil ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 02 July 2014, 11:29:41
speaking of drawings are you wearing glasses yet?

i had 20/20 when i started then had to start wearing glasses because of all the detail scribbish :-\

you would be surprised at how many engineers, architects i have met over the years that are fond of fountain pens or just a decent pen in general

back in the day..............montblanc was the big thing-- gotta have a white topped montblanc

the fountain pens or 149's back then had brass innards, big old gold nibbys and were really nice

to them it was like pulling out their smith and wesson

we actually took notes on pen and paper in meetings back then......................... i guess that has all changed now
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 July 2014, 12:23:00
speaking of drawings are you wearing glasses yet?

i had 20/20 when i started then had to start wearing glasses because of all the detail scribbish :-\

I've worn glasses for the majority of my life. So I guess I didn't have to start for my job.

you would be surprised at how many engineers, architects i have met over the years that are fond of fountain pens or just a decent pen in general

back in the day..............montblanc was the big thing-- gotta have a white topped montblanc

the fountain pens or 149's back then had brass innards, big old gold nibbys and were really nice

to them it was like pulling out their smith and wesson

The engineers I work with are still picky about nicer writing utensils. But a lot of my friends and I grew up in a generation where fountain pens weren't a thing on the radar. I literally didn't know they were a thing until college. But I was still picky about my writing instruments.

we actually took notes on pen and paper in meetings back then......................... i guess that has all changed now

It's still done where I work. I take *a lot* of notes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Wed, 02 July 2014, 13:43:44
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5583/14300714958_81c9083f93_h.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroblade/14300714958/)
(you can click on the image to see it in flickr)

I had the good fortune to have a Nakaya with me for a while!
This is a Long Piccolo (a model exclusive to Aesthetic Bay, in Singapore) in Aka-tamenuri (red-on-red lacquer) with a rose gold wisteria stopper.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3920/14536749286_58f48eeaaf_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroblade/14536749286/)
Long story short, my friend accidentally ground off all the tipping on the nib so she had me turn it into a cursive italic (as always).
Unfortunately, there is no more tipping since whatever was left was too little to salvage. But it writes very smoothly.

It's currently one of the pens I plan to get in a few years -- I say years because a pen of this level fetches an awfully high price. This exact pen costs a little over 900 USD! This is because each pen is made by hand; the ebonite hard rubber stocks are put through a lathe, and then the lacquer is applied by hand and cured over a period of 6-8 months.

I'll definitely miss it when I pass it back to my friend this Saturday.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 02 July 2014, 13:53:05
That looks amazing :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 July 2014, 13:58:08
I've been eyeing Nakaya and other lovely Japanese pens (STOP TEMPTING ME PILOT VANISHING POINT RADEN) for a little while. Unfortunately, I've decided that I'm much more into keyboards then pens. This means I set very hard limits on pen prices that I won't move since I can't be snapping up Korean customs *and* limited edition fountain pens :(.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 04 July 2014, 09:09:37
i have a couple of mr. nakaya's pens..............they don't get any better for sure and yes they are not cheap

i am sorry to see the one pictured lost its iridium tip :(

i have not collected pens in a while and to be honest i could not afford to collect both fountain pens and keyboards at the same time

eating i hear is pretty habit forming and since i collected pens years and years ago i am satisfied with what i have and do not feel the need like i do with keyboards (thankfully)

i do have some doubles, so if anybody ever wants to trade keyboard stuff (still looking for a BS clack) for quality fountain pens-- i'm your huckleberry :p

cpt has got my back on that one :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 04 July 2014, 14:22:38
Been writing with fountain pens since 2003, I like the dark black color you will never get from a ball point and the feel of writing with fountain pens. Foutain pens are to me in pens what mechanical keyboards are under the KB's.

My daily driver (and I write a lot, research/notes/ideas/math) is the Waterman Expert Deluxe White (Fine):

(http://www.pengallery.com/product_images/v/782/waterman_Expert_Deluxe_WHITE_CT_FP_640__09107_zoom.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 04 July 2014, 14:35:27
Show Image
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5583/14300714958_81c9083f93_h.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroblade/14300714958/)

(you can click on the image to see it in flickr)

I had the good fortune to have a Nakaya with me for a while!
This is a Long Piccolo (a model exclusive to Aesthetic Bay, in Singapore) in Aka-tamenuri (red-on-red lacquer) with a rose gold wisteria stopper.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3920/14536749286_58f48eeaaf_c.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroblade/14536749286/)
Long story short, my friend accidentally ground off all the tipping on the nib so she had me turn it into a cursive italic (as always).
Unfortunately, there is no more tipping since whatever was left was too little to salvage. But it writes very smoothly.

It's currently one of the pens I plan to get in a few years -- I say years because a pen of this level fetches an awfully high price. This exact pen costs a little over 900 USD! This is because each pen is made by hand; the ebonite hard rubber stocks are put through a lathe, and then the lacquer is applied by hand and cured over a period of 6-8 months.

I'll definitely miss it when I pass it back to my friend this Saturday.

that's beautiful

and crazy expensive
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 09 July 2014, 19:41:15
Been writing with fountain pens since 2003, I like the dark black color you will never get from a ball point and the feel of writing with fountain pens. Foutain pens are to me in pens what mechanical keyboards are under the KB's.

My daily driver (and I write a lot, research/notes/ideas/math) is the Waterman Expert Deluxe White (Fine):

Show Image
(http://www.pengallery.com/product_images/v/782/waterman_Expert_Deluxe_WHITE_CT_FP_640__09107_zoom.jpg)


Nice pen. I'm looking forward to trying out a Waterman again. Dorkvader is going to have one at Keycon :D.



(http://i.imgur.com/3xfOTJV.jpg)

I got bored in class. I was just practicing my handwriting and thought this was a nice example. I feel like I'm starting to level up my skill with the music nib I have.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 18 July 2014, 05:27:09
**** YOU VERY MUCH GEEKHACK ATTACHMENTS
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 18 July 2014, 05:31:20
(http://i.imgur.com/r0nXdDc.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 18 July 2014, 05:34:03
(Attachment Link)

Not that bad - I really like your th :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 19 July 2014, 21:53:19
just saw all the feedback i got a few pages back, i totally forgot to watch this thread  :-[

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 July 2014, 10:12:08
Anyone from Keycon get a chance to play with the IBM Pilot Varsity pens I gave out? Curious to know what people think about the pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:07:08
Here is my sample with one of those disposable Pilots.

Still working on the quick version of the G in my handwritten signature.

[attach=1]
Title: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheMark on Fri, 01 August 2014, 20:02:23
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/use2u8en.jpg)

Edit: also, I've pretty much forgotten how to write in proper cursive... Unless it's my signature. My 8yr old daughter however is infatuated with cursive, I can't believe it's not taught in school anymore. No fountain pen here, my favorite pens are the fatter Sharpie pen in blue.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 02 August 2014, 07:44:31
Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/use2u8en.jpg)


Edit: also, I've pretty much forgotten how to write in proper cursive... Unless it's my signature. My 8yr old daughter however is infatuated with cursive, I can't believe it's not taught in school anymore. No fountain pen here, my favorite pens are the fatter Sharpie pen in blue.

Very readable :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 12:37:27
Crosspost! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1424748#msg1424748)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14805904336_89b84eb0f3.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/sets/72157646165477221/)

(http://i.imgur.com/Rj6WVuz.jpg?2)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:25:11
Crosspost! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1424748#msg1424748)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14805904336_89b84eb0f3.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/sets/72157646165477221/)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Rj6WVuz.jpg?2)


Cool pens..

but..  isn't struggling merely the essence of all life.. since individual-life merely represent a descriptively isolate system in disequilibrium.

So.. the continuation of life as the measure-of-a-man, would only really indicate how old he is.. as simply-living is all that the-struggle would represent..

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/073.gif)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:27:53
but..  isn't struggling merely the essence of all life.. since individual-life merely represent a descriptively isolate system in disequilibrium.

So.. the continuation of life as the measure-of-a-man, would only really indicate how old he is.. as simply-living is all that the-struggle would represent..

Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/073.gif)


Go outside more.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 04 August 2014, 13:31:23
but..  isn't struggling merely the essence of all life.. since individual-life merely represent a descriptively isolate system in disequilibrium.

So.. the continuation of life as the measure-of-a-man, would only really indicate how old he is.. as simply-living is all that the-struggle would represent..

Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/073.gif)


Go outside more.

The hypocrisy !!(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502) 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 04 August 2014, 19:47:04
Crosspost! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1424748#msg1424748)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14805904336_89b84eb0f3.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/cptbadass/sets/72157646165477221/)

Quote
is the below pix from the PILOT?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Rj6WVuz.jpg?2)


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 04 August 2014, 19:52:13
Yes that's a writing sample with the Pilot Maki-e pen
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: inteli722 on Sun, 31 August 2014, 20:55:45
(http://i.imgur.com/FjhIMLV.jpg)

I still need to get a fountain pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: The Mad Professor on Sun, 31 August 2014, 21:53:35
I don't really use fountain pens, but here's my print and cursive writing.

(http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d3/d3c28fbb_WP_20131003_002.jpeg) (http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d3/d3c28fbb_WP_20131003_002.jpeg)

(http://cdn.overclock.net/2/2d/2dae35ba_WP_20131003_004.jpeg) (http://cdn.overclock.net/2/2d/2dae35ba_WP_20131003_004.jpeg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 31 August 2014, 22:05:58
This thread has inspired me to get a fun pen.  Does anyone have any suggestions from Art Supply Warehouse (http://www.artsupplywarehouse.com/) that I could get?  It's an awesome local art supply store that I frequent...if mainly because my dad does all of their fliers and business cards and such.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 31 August 2014, 23:28:24
Just got a Lamy Safari, my first FP. Still getting used to it, I got one with a Fine nib, but I think I'd prefer an extra fine, this seems a bit too thick for my writing style.

Also, the Lamy ink that came with it does not impress me (super watery... is that normal?), so I'll be needing to get some bottled stuff soon.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 31 August 2014, 23:39:43
Just got a Lamy Safari, my first FP. Still getting used to it, I got one with a Fine nib, but I think I'd prefer an extra fine, this seems a bit too thick for my writing style.

Also, the Lamy ink that came with it does not impress me (super watery... is that normal?), so I'll be needing to get some bottled stuff soon.

um.. LOL..  fountain pen ink is supposed to be watery,  how the hell else is it going to flow out..

the safari is designed for dye based ink, and generally these will be a bit watery and less brilliant in color.. but overall they're less prone to clogging.

There are pigment based inks, but you need a pen specifically designed for that, otherwise, it'd clog quite often, and you'd have to pull the feed out and brush it..

doing that will wear out the pen more quickly, so it's not recommended on expensive pens.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:01:12
This thread has inspired me to get a fun pen.  Does anyone have any suggestions from Art Supply Warehouse (http://www.artsupplywarehouse.com/) that I could get?  It's an awesome local art supply store that I frequent...if mainly because my dad does all of their fliers and business cards and such.

http://www.artsupplywarehouse.com/finelineDisplay.php?id=262000

can't get funner than calligraphy pens. and they come in 4 different nibs. and if you get more than one u can make them fade into different colors.

FUN!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:03:55
This thread has inspired me to get a fun pen.  Does anyone have any suggestions from Art Supply Warehouse (http://www.artsupplywarehouse.com/) that I could get?  It's an awesome local art supply store that I frequent...if mainly because my dad does all of their fliers and business cards and such.

(http://i.imgur.com/m3i4dsr.jpg?1)

I'm also a Pilot *fiend* and I highly recommend anything Pilot: Parallels like demik said, Metropolitan, and Varsity. I couldn't find them on that website though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:20:52
seee

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 20 September 2014, 19:56:04
Picture says it all. The erratic style is due to the lack of strength in my hands to write properly.  These pens feel really nice even though my RSI hates handwriting.

(http://i.imgur.com/lXQq2Vv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5yaGLQQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 20 September 2014, 20:26:18
Picture says it all. The erratic style is due to the lack of strength in my hands to write properly.  These pens feel really nice even though my RSI hates handwriting.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lXQq2Vv.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5yaGLQQ.jpg)


nothing wrong with your handwriting from what i can see

nice pens
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 20 September 2014, 21:53:04
Really kind of you to say.  I'm really envious of people with superior line quality, and character separation.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 20 September 2014, 23:24:26
I'm glad I found this thread. Thanks to CPTBadass and terrpn I found a new hobby and can't wait to see my handwriting improve.

Here's after a couple weeks of practice.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 21 September 2014, 08:55:41
great to see more GH'rs getting into writing instruments whatever they might be

very satisfying hobby where pen and paper are going by the way side
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: inteli722 on Sun, 21 September 2014, 10:08:46
I suddenly feel a need to work on my handwriting, as it is absolute garbage.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 September 2014, 10:24:42
great to see more GH'rs getting into writing instruments whatever they might be

very satisfying hobby where pen and paper are going by the way side

u mean all 3 of um?

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/073.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 21 September 2014, 18:28:57
great to see more GH'rs getting into writing instruments whatever they might be

very satisfying hobby where pen and paper are going by the way side

u mean all 3 of um?

Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/073.gif)


yea................i know its getting pretty crowded isn't it

at least you are part of keep the thread alive

thanks
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 22 September 2014, 12:44:51
Love keyboards.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 22 September 2014, 14:54:59
Here's  mine!

(http://i.imgur.com/Er4P7Yf.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:17:23
Here's  mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Er4P7Yf.jpg)


dude.

connect your d better.

looks like anal pen >.>
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:22:45
Here's  mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Er4P7Yf.jpg)


you write small like an architect............not too shabby

what is a tiz?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:28:06
it's Ti2 pen.

http://www.ti2design.com/Ti2-Pen-C9.aspx
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 September 2014, 19:46:57
Here's  mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Er4P7Yf.jpg)


dude.

connect your d better.

looks like anal pen >.>

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/lol2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862512)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:06:58
it's Ti2 pen.

http://www.ti2design.com/Ti2-Pen-C9.aspx

This is accurate. That 2 is very poorly written.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 22 September 2014, 20:34:48
ok............i make the 2 now

wow......that's a big boy pen

nice :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 September 2014, 21:07:06
ok............i make the 2 now

wow......that's a big boy pen

nice :eek:

basically kmac body   but for pens..


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 22 September 2014, 21:08:43
ok............i make the 2 now

wow......that's a big boy pen

nice :eek:

If you can call a pen with purple ink a big boy pen :P I like it a lot tho, its very well balanced and flips so nicely.
Also it writes very well too.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 24 September 2014, 01:31:40
pilot ti...what?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: The Mad Professor on Wed, 24 September 2014, 01:43:41
Here's  mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Er4P7Yf.jpg)


dude.

connect your d better.

looks like anal pen >.>

(http://new1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/he+speaks+in+greentext+_f256c0ab54d905b3e9637884b001a24c.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Wed, 24 September 2014, 07:03:33
pilot ti...what?

The pen body isn't made by pilot. The ink cartridge is. There is a link to the pen body a few posts above yours.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 24 September 2014, 07:28:47
aaaaaaaah, it's Pilot Hi-Tec-C!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 02 October 2014, 12:40:18
My wife is a bit excited about fountain pens.  She was born in 1990 and had no idea they existed.  She thought that dip pens were what predated the ball-point.  Honestly that's not a terrible mistake to make as a lot of film didn't glamorize fountain pens.  A lot of fountain pens are depicted in cartoon gags, but again... she was born in 1990 and was a lot more productive than I was as a child.

So my wife got excited... then I got excited about her excitement and decided to show her how much fun these things can be :)

A package arrived today,

(http://i.imgur.com/1pNhNlC.jpg)

Great fking packaging :D

(http://i.imgur.com/iPoaTc0.jpg)

I like interesting colored inks.  I may try a black or blue when I want to be old and boring.

(http://i.imgur.com/0xUXkot.jpg)

Glass dip to show her a pen that was created around the transition from dips to fountain pens.  Also neat for testing inks.

(http://i.imgur.com/oddf2kY.jpg)

Noodler's Ahab Flex - Flex nibs are just cool and it's important to know the difference between a hard, soft, and flex nib.

(http://i.imgur.com/SyX8Mmr.jpg)

LAMY 2k because eckse is a ****.  It's very good looking,

(http://i.imgur.com/GOpwUuf.jpg)

Very good looking... @_@
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 October 2014, 12:45:07
I know that diesel packaging anywhere, you guys just gave Gouletpens a nice big order! :P  I've got some stuff coming from them today as well :D. You'll have to let me know how that dip pen is, I've still never tried one. I really liked the Ahab flex but I wasn't that into the Lamy 2K. The plastic is hard for me to grip. Regardless, I hope you two are happy and hopefully we see some writing samples soon :D.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:08:04
nice haul............. :thumb:

i like dip pens, but all mine are the older steel nib sorty that you can switch up. i have wrote with the glass nibbed ones and they are great for trying out inks.

you will like the ahab..............great pen! i did eventually swap the original steel nib out for a 14k variety :eek:

just a heads up be careful putting exotic color inks in the clear demonstrators- as they will stain the plastic :-\

great to see more people are getting into fountain pens............. ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:38:59
If you want any of that german translated, let me know ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: yasuo on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:51:14
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/EQiq8tr.jpg)

pretty neat
my parents always complain about my handwritting :(

Show Image
(http://pik.vn/2014ccf110b1-ad44-427f-9c8c-5dee9c5e018b.jpeg)

you lefty?
Here's  mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Er4P7Yf.jpg)

looks like lefty
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bazh on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:55:12
lefty?

no, I wish to :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:12:49
I'm right handed as well.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sat, 04 October 2014, 12:58:15
If you want any of that german translated, let me know ;)
i'm lost for "leipziger schwarz"
pls help
/s
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 15:49:11
i'm lost for "leipziger schwarz"

Leipzig Black (Leipzig is a town).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:18:59
i'm lost for "leipziger schwarz"

Leipzig Black (Leipzig is a town).

I see your schwarz is as big as mine... :3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 07 October 2014, 07:12:14
i'm lost for "leipziger schwarz"

Leipzig Black (Leipzig is a town).
bear pls

(http://i.imgur.com/rzbWOcF.png)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 07 October 2014, 07:15:59
bear pls

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rzbWOcF.png)


I'm not sure what that means.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 07 October 2014, 07:26:33
potato pic

(https://pp.vk.me/c625631/v625631724/4eff/9wB3hhROG1o.jpg)

bear pls

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rzbWOcF.png)


I'm not sure what that means.
"sarcasm".
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 07 October 2014, 09:28:29
"sarcasm".

 :blank:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 08 October 2014, 05:46:34
(https://pp.vk.me/c540107/c619519/v619519724/18949/fRd2CF14W_Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 08 October 2014, 06:03:55
:-*
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 08 October 2014, 08:56:37
(http://i.imgur.com/1ELK6IB.png)

My scanner is poooooop.

Mod mentioned,

(http://i.imgur.com/FacMAJs.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 08 October 2014, 10:42:48
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1ELK6IB.png)


My scanner is poooooop.

Mod mentioned,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FacMAJs.jpg)


you did the mod!!

so you like it?

can you notice any increase flex?

nice shading by the way.............
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 08 October 2014, 10:47:42
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1ELK6IB.png)


My scanner is poooooop.

Mod mentioned,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FacMAJs.jpg)


you did the mod!!

so you like it?

can you notice any increase flex?

nice shading by the way.............

the difference in flex is real.  The tines separate very quickly and gap in the tines became wider after completing the mod.  I know that sounds strange but honest to buckling spring jesus the entire nib relaxed.  I had to cut extra grooves/mod existing grooves in my feed and move the feed up just a little bit further towards the tipping.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 08 October 2014, 10:53:09
nice...............

i swapped out the steel nib in mine for a 14k gold and still have the steel nib if you ever need to go back or get more creative?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 October 2014, 10:13:17
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/192c235a89f59008d5d593b09beaa627.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/083fc1e538f5ba3051c9510bd63f80cf.jpg)

I love gold. Especially in a TWBSI 580USA.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 09 October 2014, 10:34:17
(http://media.giphy.com/media/lOiJqCjiEOcmc/giphy.gif)

That's such a neat ink CPT.

I read into it and there are pigments derived from Hematite which has been used in clay jewelry and other crafts for over 1000 years.

(http://www.lehighminerals.com/images/SHOWS/April09%20Mixed/10c_small.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Noko on Thu, 09 October 2014, 13:22:07
Hey so I now belong here too :)  Thanks CPT and others, it is super gorgeous :D  It's a Pilot Metropolitan.
I guess I can't even write b's and o's "properly" if I concentrate since I have shortcutted them for so many years.

In fact CPT and I have had something in the works for a while now that I can't wait to post.  Next week though, I gotta get Massdrop out the door.

(http://i.imgur.com/YIjCyzl.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Thu, 09 October 2014, 13:30:26
Hey so I now belong here too :)  Thanks CPT and others, it is super gorgeous :D  It's a Pilot Metropolitan.
I guess I can't even write b's and o's "properly" if I concentrate since I have shortcutted them for so many years.

In fact CPT and I have had something in the works for a while now that I can't wait to post.  Next week though, I gotta get Massdrop out the door.


Oh man, a mysterious pen based leather project sounds awesome.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 09 October 2014, 13:40:08
Hooray! The pen arrived safely and you like it :D. Your normal handwriting is cursive Noko? I normally print in all caps now.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Noko on Thu, 09 October 2014, 14:24:35
Hooray! The pen arrived safely and you like it :D. Your normal handwriting is cursive Noko? I normally print in all caps now.

Yup.  I print for stuff that others have to read, but I don't like having to do it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Thu, 09 October 2014, 14:40:06
Hooray! The pen arrived safely and you like it :D. Your normal handwriting is cursive Noko? I normally print in all caps now.

Yup.  I print for stuff that others have to read, but I don't like having to do it.

I wish I could write in cursive, but it all runs together for me. Printing for life :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 09 October 2014, 15:08:59
Hooray! The pen arrived safely and you like it :D. Your normal handwriting is cursive Noko? I normally print in all caps now.

Yup.  I print for stuff that others have to read, but I don't like having to do it.

I wish I could write in cursive, but it all runs together for me. Printing for life :(

I've been practicing my cursive for around a month now and it is slowly getting better. If I try to go fast that's when everything goes to  crap. I wish I had some before and after pictures.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 10 October 2014, 16:48:40
(http://i.imgur.com/HLciIWk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KmwFhfI.jpg)

A mix of decent printing, bad printing, crap printing, and half-assed cursive for your enjoyment :D

Oh yeah and fully dry (5-10min) the bleach will not make the color run.  The ink is smudge proof after about 45 seconds.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 10 October 2014, 22:11:15
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HLciIWk.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KmwFhfI.jpg)


A mix of decent printing, bad printing, crap printing, and half-assed cursive for your enjoyment :D

Oh yeah and fully dry (5-10min) the bleach will not make the color run.  The ink is smudge proof after about 45 seconds.

Is that one of those Italic Calligraphy nibs? Love the ink too...aside from just Black & Blue I'm having a hard time thinking of an ink I want to buy next.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sat, 11 October 2014, 11:01:55

A mix of decent printing, bad printing, crap printing, and half-assed cursive for your enjoyment :D

Oh yeah and fully dry (5-10min) the bleach will not make the color run.  The ink is smudge proof after about 45 seconds.

This is really cool. You guys keep making me want a fountain pen more and more. Mainly just to play with cool inks :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 11 October 2014, 12:31:33
The nib on this and most other Noodler's pens is called a flex nib.  The flex nib is pressure sensitive.  A calligraphy nib is usually a chisel or italic nib.  They are often flat/hard edges.

Here's a nice video of a nice flex nib,

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sat, 11 October 2014, 12:47:07
wow that's really sweet. I didn't expect the nib to expand and retract like that, clearly I know very little about fountain pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 15 October 2014, 22:27:41
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 15 October 2014, 23:39:31
Those custom nibs are VERY expensive, but produce amazing results in the right hands.  The nib itself is $80+ and customization is +$110.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grendel on Thu, 16 October 2014, 00:07:41
Very dangerous hobby to get sucked into -- for your wallet that is ;) Just got a LAMY 2k M back I had sent to Pendleton Brown (http://pendletonspens.com/Custom_Nib_Work/index.html) for a regrind into a stub -- he did a fantastic job, it's currently my main pen (along w/ a Parker 45 Harlequin Circlet M and a Parker 75 Flighter S.) I'll try to get a current handwriting sample, too late right now :/ Meanwhile here are some selected pics I put up over the years for your enjoyment :)

(http://s16.postimg.org/jre6uq53l/MG_0548.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jre6uq53l/) (http://s23.postimg.org/keybgwuiv/MG_0555.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/keybgwuiv/) (http://s9.postimage.org/owj0ua87v/MG_2092.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/owj0ua87v/) (http://s13.postimage.org/p34pujhk3/MG_2087.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/p34pujhk3/)

(http://s24.postimg.org/56crd498h/MG_0855.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/56crd498h/) (http://s14.postimg.org/4uaeoq2wt/MG_0517.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4uaeoq2wt/) (http://s17.postimage.org/pj3tti0wb/P1131165.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pj3tti0wb/) (http://s11.postimage.org/5xb837d7j/P1131168.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5xb837d7j/) (http://s2.postimage.org/2v8dn7gkk/MG_2759.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2v8dn7gkk/)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:05:24
Very dangerous hobby to get sucked into -- for your wallet that is ;)
i've sold all my fountain pens but three and all keyboards but one.
i belong neither here nor on fpn.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: feizor on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:29:56
Can anyone suggest pen and ink for a beginner? Are the noodlers on mass drop at the moment any good?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 16 October 2014, 04:37:08
Lamy Safari F; Parker Quink Blue.
Noodler ink is nice.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 16 October 2014, 06:29:42
Can anyone suggest pen and ink for a beginner? Are the noodlers on mass drop at the moment any good?

I agree with Iri. I'm really liking my Lamy pens! The Pilot Metropolitan is another inexpensive pen.

Another really good one is the Pilot Varsity. It may be a disposable but it writes extremely smooth and you can open it up (if you are careful) and refill it.

Thanks again Captain!

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:27:32
My pick for newbie pens,

Pilot Metropolitan - http://www.gouletpens.com/Pilot_Metropolitan_Fountain_Pens_s/1336.htm
Platinum Preppy - http://www.gouletpens.com/Platinum_Preppy_Fountain_Pen_s/879.htm
Lamy Safari - http://www.gouletpens.com/Lamy_Safari_Fountain_Pens_s/934.htm

When choosing an ink I believe its important to choose if you want water resistant or regular inks, and it's important to know what sort of paper you'd like to write on.

My top "permanent" ink choices are,

R&K Salix (Iron Gall) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Rohrer_Klingner_Salix_Iron_Gall_Ink_p/rk40711050.htm
R&K Scabiosa (Iron Gall) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Rohrer_Klingner_Scabiosa_Iron_Gall_Ink_p/rk40710050.htm
Noodler's Bad Belted Kingfisher - http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_Bad_Belted_Kingfisher_Ink_3oz_p/n19062.htm
Diamine Registrar's Black - http://www.gouletpens.com/Diamine_100ml_Registrars_Ink_p/d4038.htm
Diamine Registrar's Blue Black - http://www.gouletpens.com/Diamine_30ml_Registrars_Ink_p/d3038.htm

Top regular (washable) inks,

Most all of the Diamine line (not registrars or pigmented) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Diamine_Bottled_Ink_s/783.htm
Noodler's X-Feather for writing on all kinds of paper - http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_X_Feather_Ink_3oz_p/n19046.htm
Private Reserve Chocolat - http://www.gouletpens.com/Private_Reserve_Chocolat_Ink_p/pr32ch.htm
Private Reserve Shoreline Gold - http://www.gouletpens.com/Private_Reserve_Shoreline_Gold_Ink_p/pr22sg.htm
Most all of the R&K inks (not iron gall) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Rohrer_Klingner_Bottled_Ink_s/1100.htm

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Thu, 16 October 2014, 12:57:59
Grendel, What is that thin pen with the untapered body? Usually I'm not a big fan of fountain pens since I prefer pens with thinner bodies, but that seems pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:13:05
Can anyone suggest pen and ink for a beginner? Are the noodlers on mass drop at the moment any good?

My first was a Safari but if I had to do it again, I would have gone with the Metropolitan.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:17:23
Still rocking the Pilot Precise v5. Though this thread does make want to try fountain...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:18:23
Though this thread does make want to try fountain...

I believe I have a Varsity still. If I do, I can send it to you so you can try a fountain pen. They're marketed as disposable so they're cheap but you can actually refill them. PM me if you're interested :D. I sent one to do_Og@n who had this to say.

Another really good one is the Pilot Varsity. It may be a disposable but it writes extremely smooth and you can open it up (if you are careful) and refill it.

Thanks again Captain!

You're quite welcome :D.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 13:32:23
Though this thread does make want to try fountain...

I believe I have a Varsity still. If I do, I can send it to you so you can try a fountain pen. They're marketed as disposable so they're cheap but you can actually refill them. PM me if you're interested :D. I sent one to do_Og@n who had this to say.

Another really good one is the Pilot Varsity. It may be a disposable but it writes extremely smooth and you can open it up (if you are careful) and refill it.

Thanks again Captain!

You're quite welcome :D.
Maximum bro level achieved. Thanks!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grendel on Thu, 16 October 2014, 15:56:49
Grendel, What is that thin pen with the untapered body? Usually I'm not a big fan of fountain pens since I prefer pens with thinner bodies, but that seems pretty sweet.

The LAMY CP1 (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/65534-lamy-cp1/) ? (CP1 @ Goulet's (http://www.gouletpens.com/Lamy_CP1_Fountain_Pens_s/983.htm))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 16 October 2014, 20:54:19
(http://i.imgur.com/lwIx1Xd.jpg)

The shakes are no bueno this week.

/me yells at his hands.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:11:00
noodlers on massdrop?

no way............
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:15:59
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Very dangerous hobby to get sucked into -- for your wallet that is ;) Just got a LAMY 2k M back I had sent to Pendleton Brown (http://pendletonspens.com/Custom_Nib_Work/index.html) for a regrind into a stub -- he did a fantastic job, it's currently my main pen (along w/ a Parker 45 Harlequin Circlet M and a Parker 75 Flighter S.) I'll try to get a current handwriting sample, too late right now :/ Meanwhile here are some selected pics I put up over the years for your enjoyment :)

(http://s16.postimg.org/jre6uq53l/MG_0548.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jre6uq53l/)
(http://s23.postimg.org/keybgwuiv/MG_0555.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/keybgwuiv/)
(http://s9.postimage.org/owj0ua87v/MG_2092.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/owj0ua87v/)
(http://s13.postimage.org/p34pujhk3/MG_2087.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/p34pujhk3/)


(http://s24.postimg.org/56crd498h/MG_0855.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/56crd498h/)
(http://s14.postimg.org/4uaeoq2wt/MG_0517.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4uaeoq2wt/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/pj3tti0wb/P1131165.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pj3tti0wb/)
(http://s11.postimage.org/5xb837d7j/P1131168.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5xb837d7j/)
(http://s2.postimage.org/2v8dn7gkk/MG_2759.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2v8dn7gkk/)

great to see another appreciate parker 45's........being somewhat slender they are not for everybody, but i like them. i have a Harlequin as well and love it :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:19:50
Just discovered these guys... I'm having a little bit of trouble holding back.   :confused:

http://www.franklin-christoph.com/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:24:50
People can't say enough good things about the music nib and their pens in general. I hope they're at the Ohio pen show.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:27:17
People can't say enough good things about the music nib and their pens in general. I hope they're at the Ohio pen show.

I still hate YOU for my wife not letting me go.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:38:39
People can't say enough good things about the music nib and their pens in general. I hope they're at the Ohio pen show.

I still hate YOU for my wife not letting me go.

no worries....... :eek:

appreciate your list of inks- will have to try 1 or 2 of them
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 16 October 2014, 22:15:22
People can't say enough good things about the music nib and their pens in general. I hope they're at the Ohio pen show.

I still hate YOU for my wife not letting me go.

no worries....... :eek:

appreciate your list of inks- will have to try 1 or 2 of them

I'm just playing with CPT, but really I am upset for not being able to go to the OHPS.

The inks are where this hobby really gets you IMO.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 17 October 2014, 01:04:20
Just discovered these guys... I'm having a little bit of trouble holding back.   :confused:

http://www.franklin-christoph.com/

I'm waiting to order one of their 1.1mm Calligraphy nibs for my Jinhao x750.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 17 October 2014, 13:46:17
Moar writing samples,

(http://i.imgur.com/kCHWG8J.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 17 October 2014, 14:16:08
Moar writing samples,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kCHWG8J.jpg)


hahaha.. Noice...   Finally this isn't just a shopping thread, people actually using pens..

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: feizor on Fri, 17 October 2014, 16:53:45
Lamy Safari F; Parker Quink Blue.
Noodler ink is nice.

My pick for newbie pens,

Pilot Metropolitan - http://www.gouletpens.com/Pilot_Metropolitan_Fountain_Pens_s/1336.htm
Platinum Preppy - http://www.gouletpens.com/Platinum_Preppy_Fountain_Pen_s/879.htm
Lamy Safari - http://www.gouletpens.com/Lamy_Safari_Fountain_Pens_s/934.htm

When choosing an ink I believe its important to choose if you want water resistant or regular inks, and it's important to know what sort of paper you'd like to write on.

My top "permanent" ink choices are,

R&K Salix (Iron Gall) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Rohrer_Klingner_Salix_Iron_Gall_Ink_p/rk40711050.htm
R&K Scabiosa (Iron Gall) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Rohrer_Klingner_Scabiosa_Iron_Gall_Ink_p/rk40710050.htm
Noodler's Bad Belted Kingfisher - http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_Bad_Belted_Kingfisher_Ink_3oz_p/n19062.htm
Diamine Registrar's Black - http://www.gouletpens.com/Diamine_100ml_Registrars_Ink_p/d4038.htm
Diamine Registrar's Blue Black - http://www.gouletpens.com/Diamine_30ml_Registrars_Ink_p/d3038.htm

Top regular (washable) inks,

Most all of the Diamine line (not registrars or pigmented) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Diamine_Bottled_Ink_s/783.htm
Noodler's X-Feather for writing on all kinds of paper - http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_X_Feather_Ink_3oz_p/n19046.htm
Private Reserve Chocolat - http://www.gouletpens.com/Private_Reserve_Chocolat_Ink_p/pr32ch.htm
Private Reserve Shoreline Gold - http://www.gouletpens.com/Private_Reserve_Shoreline_Gold_Ink_p/pr22sg.htm
Most all of the R&K inks (not iron gall) - http://www.gouletpens.com/Rohrer_Klingner_Bottled_Ink_s/1100.htm



Can anyone suggest pen and ink for a beginner? Are the noodlers on mass drop at the moment any good?

I agree with Iri. I'm really liking my Lamy pens! The Pilot Metropolitan is another inexpensive pen.

Another really good one is the Pilot Varsity. It may be a disposable but it writes extremely smooth and you can open it up (if you are careful) and refill it.

Thanks again Captain!



Can anyone suggest pen and ink for a beginner? Are the noodlers on mass drop at the moment any good?

My first was a Safari but if I had to do it again, I would have gone with the Metropolitan.

Thanks for the recommendations!

I think I will start with a Pilot Metropolitan.

Binge thanks for the ink recommendations, the other half of the equation!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 22 October 2014, 12:47:28
Writing tests with some iron gall ink and a noodler's flex pen,

(http://i.imgur.com/dXSQgF1.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 22 October 2014, 17:46:01
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOsT6ms.jpg)

A little bit rushed towards the end, but those are all the variations of my "normal" handwriting, in pencil and pen. Sorry no fountain pens here lol.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 22 October 2014, 21:34:24
Writing tests with some iron gall ink and a noodler's flex pen,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dXSQgF1.jpg)


iron gall i thought was some kind of a deep rust..........that looks almost purple?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 22 October 2014, 22:07:48
Writing tests with some iron gall ink and a noodler's flex pen,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dXSQgF1.jpg)


iron gall i thought was some kind of a deep rust..........that looks almost purple?

Little bit of historic alchemy here.  Iron Sulfate (FeSO4) when mixed with tannins/tannic acid would create a solution which would permeate and mechanically bond with fibrous materials.  Over time the solution would further oxidize and gradually become a pigment which visibly darkened with exposure to our atmosphere.  Traditional Iron Gall made from Iron Sulfate and Chestnut Gall would turn into a deep black purple over time.

Traditionally Iron Gall is pH2-pH5 but more modern Iron Gall uses better chemical science to achieve the older results with a bit more color variation and pH values closer to neutral.  Iron gall inks are made to be Black-Blue black-Maroon-Violet in color.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 24 October 2014, 14:17:20
The people who make fountain pen inks seem to put so much effort into their pigments, it's awesome. As much as I love my current pen, I wish I had such a cool selection of inks.

Currently I'm waiting for other people I know to want stuff from jetpens so I don't have to eat the shipping costs by myself :( I want to get some of the finer point purple hi-tec-c refills, .4 is nice, but I really want to try the smaller ones.

(http://i.imgur.com/lnMlqiE.jpg?2)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Mon, 27 October 2014, 06:59:36
Just discovered these guys... I'm having a little bit of trouble holding back.   :confused:

http://www.franklin-christoph.com/

People can't say enough good things about the music nib and their pens in general. I hope they're at the Ohio pen show.


Definitely go for the customized selection grounded by Masuyama if you do get their pens. I've gotten nibs from them (with the exception of their music nib, their stock nibs should be made by JoWo, the same OEM supplying TWSBI), which are pretty nice writers, reasonably smooth and a little wet, but nothing exceptional until they're tuned and smoothed imo.

My daily writer is a needlepoint I've gotten from them. I was actually looking around for a nice Japanese ef/f when I chanced upon their site and went for it. It lays down a nice fine line at 0.3mm (very similar to the hi-tec 0.4mm, but could be slightly thicker or thinner depending on the type of paper and how light of a touch I go with. The hi-tec 0.4mm had been my go to pen for nearly a decade before I got bit by the fp bug). Added bonus is that their #5 nibs screw directly into some TWSBI models albeit with some futzing; they fit, but there are some issues. At least I didn't have to buy another whole pen.

Overall I'm very happy with their nibs, and their service is impeccable. I'm also considering getting a 0.8mm medium italic from them (but I don't really have a purpose for italic nibs).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 30 October 2014, 11:42:53
interisting :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grendel on Thu, 30 October 2014, 14:55:08
One of my teachers did that on the chalk board in print while explaining the topic. Sounded like a jack-hammer, and we had a hard time keeping up copying and understanding it.. :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 30 October 2014, 15:07:55
The people who make fountain pen inks seem to put so much effort into their pigments, it's awesome. As much as I love my current pen, I wish I had such a cool selection of inks.

Currently I'm waiting for other people I know to want stuff from jetpens so I don't have to eat the shipping costs by myself :( I want to get some of the finer point purple hi-tec-c refills, .4 is nice, but I really want to try the smaller ones.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lnMlqiE.jpg?2)


As a Sifo, I've used the htc plenty, but they're really just SO SO... LOL.. the japanese surari ink is better and smoother..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 03 November 2014, 10:36:07
(http://i.imgur.com/0nPY46X.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 11:02:15
(https://i.imgur.com/XrUVzRH.jpg)

Paradise Blue is by far my favorite ink color. Unfortunately, it doesn't show as vibrantly as I would like in this photo. Foam green is pretty spot on though. I'm a little disappointed in it as it looked a LOT brighter in the swatch booklet we looked through. For the price, the Impressa is a ridiculously nice pen. It's a little on the heavier side, but I like my writing instruments to be a little heftier. That Safari's been through hell and back with me, and the classic sport is my pocket pen. All three of these are my EDC pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 03 November 2014, 11:30:49
(http://i.imgur.com/npc4X6l.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:10:03
I like............
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:44:01
The difference between standing and writing wherever can find the space and sitting and writing is REAL,

(http://i.imgur.com/WUx4gCY.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 04 November 2014, 10:31:14
The difference between standing and writing wherever can find the space and sitting and writing is REAL,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WUx4gCY.jpg)


right.............everything in society today is getting so hi-tech that any writing with substance is an event

I am enjoying your daily handwritten notes...........keep it up :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 04 November 2014, 21:05:20
Well, after trying out a fountain pen for more and a couple of seconds, here's mine, all written with what I would call a fairly nice fountain pen:

(http://i.imgur.com/9DTVhyW.jpg)

Looks like a broad tip, which isn't my preference, but it writes nice.

Also, sorry for potato pic. Indoors with no windows and phone camera.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 04 November 2014, 21:48:04
(http://i.imgur.com/TmNEuxg.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 04 November 2014, 22:34:10
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TmNEuxg.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/Ei3whGK.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 04 November 2014, 22:58:12
Damn you all and your nice handwriting. So after using this disposable pilot, I decided I'm ready to spend some money on nicer pen. Found these which all seemed to have good reviews:
http://www.jetpens.com/Lamy-Safari-Fountain-Pen-Fine-Nib-Charcoal-Black-Body/pd/5075
http://www.jetpens.com/Lamy-Fountain-Pen-Z-24-Converter/pd/1941
http://www.jetpens.com/Waterman-Nostalgia-Fountain-Pen-Ink-50-ml-Bottle-Intense-Black/pd/6252
http://www.jetpens.com/Pilot-Iroshizuku-Ink-50-ml-Yama-budo-Wild-Grapes-Purple-Magenta/pd/3596
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 06 November 2014, 00:35:45
Writing for today.  Looking forward to hwood antics.

(http://i.imgur.com/T4FfJ1A.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 06 November 2014, 05:01:32
Ugh everyday I see Binge's notes and I keep forgetting to write replies after work.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 07 November 2014, 15:03:26
Ugh everyday I see Binge's notes and I keep forgetting to write replies after work.

I'm waiting, bro.  Gloves are off.

(http://i.imgur.com/9DeXLyl.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 07 November 2014, 16:47:36
nice!

what was the other FC you got?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:59:32
nice!

what was the other FC you got?

The FC02, Intrinsic?  Medium Italic Stub.  The writing sample here, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1524729#msg1524729 was made using that pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 07 November 2014, 22:29:50
I was bored during a meeting so I decided to practice my cursive upper case "A". Envibro is scoping it out too.

(http://i.imgur.com/EoELwC2.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 07 November 2014, 22:31:58
I was bored during a meeting so I decided to practice my cursive upper case "A". Envibro is scoping it out too.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/EoELwC2.jpg)


Looks more like you want the d







Kidding, it's pretty.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: swathe on Fri, 07 November 2014, 22:32:28
My handwriting with a normal pen is atrocious I'd hate to see my results with a fountain but some of you guys have awesome writing.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 08 November 2014, 01:00:30
My handwriting with a normal pen is atrocious I'd hate to see my results with a fountain but some of you guys have awesome writing.

A lot of what a fountain pen is will improve your handwriting, but you have to be willing to make a switch.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: swathe on Sat, 08 November 2014, 01:02:45
My handwriting with a normal pen is atrocious I'd hate to see my results with a fountain but some of you guys have awesome writing.

A lot of what a fountain pen is will improve your handwriting, but you have to be willing to make a switch.

Oh there is nothing tying me to a normal biro or anything over a fountain pen. When I have some spare time I may read up on fountains a bit and see if it grabs enough of my attention to give a go. I already have too many hobbies :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 November 2014, 06:47:26
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/90bc946d577a650a5976f386caa69e17.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 08 November 2014, 11:28:37
Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/90bc946d577a650a5976f386caa69e17.jpg)


yes............we need pictures as proof!

nice pen by the way :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 08 November 2014, 12:52:08
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/8c1e3eaa409eb4040d49e91477c0ce2c.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/3b98e90b3acfe79fc079b42753f84335.jpg)

I even flex.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 08 November 2014, 13:33:16
Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/8c1e3eaa409eb4040d49e91477c0ce2c.jpg)


Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/3b98e90b3acfe79fc079b42753f84335.jpg)


I even flex.

hahahahaha..  good attempts..

The  top to the A in kunstler,  it's supposed to be drawn towards the upper right at roughly 45* and the stem is not supposed to be straight.

It seems you're making very small letters, that's not a good way to start practicing, because you don't learn to control your arm which is what you'll need to learn for smoother transitions and flowing-like spacing..

You are currently drawing the letters with your fingers + wrist only, that's ok for ball point, but for fountain pens, you have limited angles, which require whole arm movement to complete certain shapes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Sat, 08 November 2014, 14:46:54
Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/90bc946d577a650a5976f386caa69e17.jpg)


What pen is that, if you don't mind me asking? It's beautiful  O_O
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 08 November 2014, 17:11:37
Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/8c1e3eaa409eb4040d49e91477c0ce2c.jpg)


Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/3b98e90b3acfe79fc079b42753f84335.jpg)


I even flex.

hahahahaha..  good attempts..

The  top to the A in kunstler,  it's supposed to be drawn towards the upper right at roughly 45* and the stem is not supposed to be straight.

It seems you're making very small letters, that's not a good way to start practicing, because you don't learn to control your arm which is what you'll need to learn for smoother transitions and flowing-like spacing..

You are currently drawing the letters with your fingers + wrist only, that's ok for ball point, but for fountain pens, you have limited angles, which require whole arm movement to complete certain shapes.

Maybe you could show us a tp4 example??????????????????????????????????  So excite.  Such inquisitive.

(http://i.imgur.com/geDas5Ol.jpg)

I missed today's pen show with CPT and it really affected me.

(http://i.imgur.com/BkGNwO4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TkxSkBT.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 08 November 2014, 20:11:18
is that a noodlers neponset i see there?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 08 November 2014, 20:32:07
is that a noodlers neponset i see there?

Yessir it is! :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 08 November 2014, 21:32:42
is that a noodlers neponset i see there?

Yessir it is! :)

oh.........you raskal you :eek:

i just ordered one meself
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 08 November 2014, 21:34:15
is that a noodlers neponset i see there?

Yessir it is! :)

oh.........you raskal you :eek:

i just ordered one meself
Should have asked me! I have a few extra lol.  If you want I would certainly tune yours.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 09 November 2014, 07:31:05
hahahahaha..  good attempts..

The  top to the A in kunstler,  it's supposed to be drawn towards the upper right at roughly 45* and the stem is not supposed to be straight.

It seems you're making very small letters, that's not a good way to start practicing, because you don't learn to control your arm which is what you'll need to learn for smoother transitions and flowing-like spacing..

You are currently drawing the letters with your fingers + wrist only, that's ok for ball point, but for fountain pens, you have limited angles, which require whole arm movement to complete certain shapes.

Let me put this in a way that you'll understand:

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/12/bothers.gif)

(https://ia902509.us.archive.org/19/items/ArbGB.COM.onion.Head/hehe-onion-head-emoticon.gif)


Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/90bc946d577a650a5976f386caa69e17.jpg)


What pen is that, if you don't mind me asking? It's beautiful  O_O

It's a Namiki Crane Tsuru Maki-e pen (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/271404-pilot-namiki-crane-tsuru-maki-e-fountain-pen-fine-nib-fd-2mp-ho/). I love that pen so much.

I missed today's pen show with CPT and it really affected me.

I wish you could have gone with me! It was a great time. I forgot to take any significant pictures though. Was too busy trying out every pen I could get my hands on :D. Might need to sell a keyboard or three to finance a Pelikan M605 or 140...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:20:02
Double post cause I'm a bad person... And I wanted to share a note to be cool like Binge.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/4884313b4dbb97ac748670a9498134ef.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: margo baggins on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:24:49
(http://i.imgur.com/Buxp8uI.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:31:40
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Buxp8uI.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/NG6R72Y.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:56:35
Cookies are definitely an option for dinner!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 10 November 2014, 11:56:53
(http://i.imgur.com/oirtMPB.jpg)

Dot the j binge... dot the j....
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 11 November 2014, 12:29:15
(http://i.imgur.com/g7BTriT.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:46:10
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/g7BTriT.jpg?1)


wow.............your writing has really improved!

nice.......
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:37:37
I am excited for the next thought of the day  :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 13 November 2014, 15:49:36
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 13 November 2014, 16:33:43
(Attachment Link)
I like....keep it up folks!
More people getting tuned into writing and fountain pens, pens in general
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 November 2014, 17:14:49
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/bb951c4028a855a06c7593eb97806573.jpg)

Need to work on my upper case As...I guess that's something I can do on Pen15 island ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 13 November 2014, 19:00:03
Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/bb951c4028a855a06c7593eb97806573.jpg)


Need to work on my upper case As...I guess that's something I can do on Pen15 island ;)

is the green ink text performed by sir pelikan?

pen 15.......?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 November 2014, 19:10:21
is the green ink text performed by sir pelikan?

pen 15.......?

Yes, the purple is Mont Blanc lavender purple in the Maki e pen in top. And the bottom is the pelikan with diamine soft mint. Such flex.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:35:18
pen 15.......?
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 November 2014, 21:20:18
You keep using :triangle:, it does not mean what you think it means.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 13 November 2014, 21:21:18
You keep using :triangle:, it does not mean what you think it means.

Oh... did they not tell you?
I shouldn't say any more.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 November 2014, 21:22:12
...

Well played.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Fri, 14 November 2014, 03:14:08
Just got something new in the mail, figured I'd share  :D


(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/DSC_2931_zps7eb2cf8d.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 14 November 2014, 05:32:22
Just got something new in the mail, figured I'd share  :D


Show Image
(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/DSC_2931_zps7eb2cf8d.jpg~original)

congrats! that's one very nice pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 14 November 2014, 07:13:14
Let me just throw this idea out and see what you guys think:

I am very sure that typing has caused my handwriting to deteriorate.

See, when I was in school, my English handwriting was often praised. Teachers liked it for being strong, having a personality, yet very easy to read and understand.

My Chinese handwriting, heh, was severely criticized. It was readable but totally uncultured and lacking in refinement. (EG absolutely nothing like tp4's Chinese handwriting on the first page of this thread. I'd say TP's Chinese handwriting looks like a real Chinese person in some Jiangnan teahouse and mine like some Taoist hermit living on a mountain.)

But after two decades of typing....

My English handwriting is awful. Virtually like Chicken scratches. I wince whenever I write something. I can't even write as fast as I could when I was in school and rushing to churn out essays with maximum word count in the time limit.

But since I still hand write more Chinese than I type it, my Chinese handwriting has marginally improved. It actually looks more mature. And I can still write at the same speed, which is much faster than I can type in Chinese. (Sigh, I really show my age here!)

It will be interesting to hear what you people have to say about this.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 November 2014, 07:17:27
Let me just throw this idea out and see what you guys think:

I am very sure that typing has caused my handwriting to deteriorate.

Yup, I agree. The only reason my handwriting looks legible is because I love handwritten notes. I always take notes on paper because I retain the information better. My cursive has come a long way since I got into fountain pens. I learned Palmer in grade school but I hadn't really used it since then.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 14 November 2014, 10:18:37
Let me just throw this idea out and see what you guys think:

I am very sure that typing has caused my handwriting to deteriorate.

See, when I was in school, my English handwriting was often praised. Teachers liked it for being strong, having a personality, yet very easy to read and understand.

My Chinese handwriting, heh, was severely criticized. It was readable but totally uncultured and lacking in refinement. (EG absolutely nothing like tp4's Chinese handwriting on the first page of this thread. I'd say TP's Chinese handwriting looks like a real Chinese person in some Jiangnan teahouse and mine like some Taoist hermit living on a mountain.)

But after two decades of typing....

My English handwriting is awful. Virtually like Chicken scratches. I wince whenever I write something. I can't even write as fast as I could when I was in school and rushing to churn out essays with maximum word count in the time limit.

But since I still hand write more Chinese than I type it, my Chinese handwriting has marginally improved. It actually looks more mature. And I can still write at the same speed, which is much faster than I can type in Chinese. (Sigh, I really show my age here!)

It will be interesting to hear what you people have to say about this.

bring on the chinese writing........... i cannot understand it, but the writing are you kidding?

you can always interpret by the keyboard and i think it would only enhance the thread.....

of course that is my own opinion
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:43:25
(http://i.imgur.com/0yD51GO.jpg)

Pilot VP should have a slogan, "Just the tip."
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:46:18
Pilot VP should have a slogan, "Just the tip."

Only for a second. Just to see how it feels looks.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grendel on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:03:27
While I do have two VP's, I prefer the Decimo (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/216571-pilot-capless-decimo-ef-violet-lavender/) -- sleeker and lighter :) I don't use them much tho -- the converter doesn't hold a days worth of ink and the carts aren't much better either unfortunately. :/

(http://s7.postimage.org/fnlo7lulj/P1131167.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fnlo7lulj/)

Some P51 pr0n:

(http://s10.postimg.org/7cg8za6tx/MG_0544.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7cg8za6tx/) (http://s24.postimg.org/fggbivdzl/MG_0551.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fggbivdzl/) (http://s16.postimg.org/epofaitv5/MG_0550.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/epofaitv5/)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:12:08
Did someone someone pen porn?

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/14/c813d4799a83e82dc57d2a848630424e.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/14/c1568c96e1302bec756dfe35729a69e7.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 14 November 2014, 18:22:08
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0yD51GO.jpg)


Pilot VP should have a slogan, "Just the tip."

you got ur VP.......nice :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 14 November 2014, 20:02:41
Let me just throw this idea out and see what you guys think:

I am very sure that typing has caused my handwriting to deteriorate.

See, when I was in school, my English handwriting was often praised. Teachers liked it for being strong, having a personality, yet very easy to read and understand.

My Chinese handwriting, heh, was severely criticized. It was readable but totally uncultured and lacking in refinement. (EG absolutely nothing like tp4's Chinese handwriting on the first page of this thread. I'd say TP's Chinese handwriting looks like a real Chinese person in some Jiangnan teahouse and mine like some Taoist hermit living on a mountain.)

But after two decades of typing....

My English handwriting is awful. Virtually like Chicken scratches. I wince whenever I write something. I can't even write as fast as I could when I was in school and rushing to churn out essays with maximum word count in the time limit.

But since I still hand write more Chinese than I type it, my Chinese handwriting has marginally improved. It actually looks more mature. And I can still write at the same speed, which is much faster than I can type in Chinese. (Sigh, I really show my age here!)

It will be interesting to hear what you people have to say about this.

bring on the chinese writing........... i cannot understand it, but the writing are you kidding?

you can always interpret by the keyboard and i think it would only enhance the thread.....

of course that is my own opinion

You can't handle the chinese writing..

also..  Class- Hermit  is considered the highest render-ers of Chinese calligraphy behind telepathy and transient omniscience of the deities..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 14 November 2014, 21:02:30
Let me just throw this idea out and see what you guys think:

I am very sure that typing has caused my handwriting to deteriorate.

See, when I was in school, my English handwriting was often praised. Teachers liked it for being strong, having a personality, yet very easy to read and understand.

My Chinese handwriting, heh, was severely criticized. It was readable but totally uncultured and lacking in refinement. (EG absolutely nothing like tp4's Chinese handwriting on the first page of this thread. I'd say TP's Chinese handwriting looks like a real Chinese person in some Jiangnan teahouse and mine like some Taoist hermit living on a mountain.)

But after two decades of typing....

My English handwriting is awful. Virtually like Chicken scratches. I wince whenever I write something. I can't even write as fast as I could when I was in school and rushing to churn out essays with maximum word count in the time limit.

But since I still hand write more Chinese than I type it, my Chinese handwriting has marginally improved. It actually looks more mature. And I can still write at the same speed, which is much faster than I can type in Chinese. (Sigh, I really show my age here!)

It will be interesting to hear what you people have to say about this.

bring on the chinese writing........... i cannot understand it, but the writing are you kidding?

you can always interpret by the keyboard and i think it would only enhance the thread.....

of course that is my own opinion

You can't handle the chinese writing..

also..  Class- Hermit  is considered the highest render-ers of Chinese calligraphy behind telepathy and transient omniscience of the deities..

I can't handle my own writing........
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 14 November 2014, 23:23:39
(http://i.imgur.com/pp5DN6F.jpg?2)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 15 November 2014, 00:23:55
(http://i.imgur.com/85M8SFp.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 15 November 2014, 02:57:03
I wrote this while drunk....still turned out "alright".  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/3hKWZss.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 15 November 2014, 09:23:50
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pp5DN6F.jpg?2)


yea..........looks like an elite?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 15 November 2014, 09:47:45
(http://i.imgur.com/It1jTEc.jpg?2)
Yeah... GH was down for a bit last night and I had to go to sleep.
I had this one prepared and all and then was sad when I couldn't post.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 15 November 2014, 12:07:46
Someone buying GMK off of my site kindly asked I write a poem about u/ripster55,

(http://i.imgur.com/1o9jqMZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 November 2014, 12:10:42
(http://i.imgur.com/YGeJRYJ.jpg)

I should snap a better pic of the Nakaya.

Edited because apparently I've got dyslexia.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 15 November 2014, 12:12:38
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YGeJRYJ.jpg)


I should snap a better pic of the Nayaka.

Hnggggg that blue.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 15 November 2014, 12:19:15
Too bad I don't use mine enough to justify using a cartridge.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 15 November 2014, 12:48:18
Too bad I don't use mine enough to justify using a cartridge.

Hm? A cartridge is what typically comes with the pens. Do you mean a converter?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 15 November 2014, 12:57:43
Too bad I don't use mine enough to justify using a cartridge.

Hm? A cartridge is what typically comes with the pens. Do you mean a converter?

No, I mean cartridge.  I haven't got a converter to use bottled ink.  I just got a pack of namiki carts for my pilot metropolitan.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 15 November 2014, 14:38:23
sorry i don't cursive as pretty as you guys do, so it's the old block and tackle :cool:

oh yea.........look binge "no clip"

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 15 November 2014, 14:47:36
sorry i don't cursive as pretty as you guys do, so it's the old block and tackle :cool:

oh yea.........look binge "no clip"



I like the print man :)  Looks sick.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 15 November 2014, 14:50:57
sorry i don't cursive as pretty as you guys do, so it's the old block and tackle :cool:

oh yea.........look binge "no clip"
When you have print like that who needs cursive :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 16 November 2014, 19:26:37
my 1920's waterman 452 sterling silver filigree with flex nib

.....and my crappy hand writing
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 16 November 2014, 19:47:39
my 1920's waterman 452 sterling silver filigree with flex nib

.....and my crappy hand writing

Now that's a sexy pen!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 17 November 2014, 05:54:15
MOTher fffffffffffffffff.......

Ok, u guys know the kuretake brushpen series ?

right. so.... this is not quality sable hair..  it's probably mixed as well..

I thought I might've gotten a "fake" cuz it's half the price on amazon vs jetpens.. so I ordered another 1 from jetpens.

same hair....

sigh....   Honestly I'd expect more for $40...   I can understand the fact that you'd cheap out on a full brush, but there's barely any hair used in a brush PEN....

/disappoint..

If you're not Sifo, you'd probably not understand this outburst.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 17 November 2014, 09:42:24
MOTher fffffffffffffffff.......

Ok, u guys know the kuretake brushpen series ?

right. so.... this is not quality sable hair..  it's probably mixed as well..

I thought I might've gotten a "fake" cuz it's half the price on amazon vs jetpens.. so I ordered another 1 from jetpens.

same hair....

sigh....   Honestly I'd expect more for $40...   I can understand the fact that you'd cheap out on a full brush, but there's barely any hair used in a brush PEN....

/disappoint..

If you're not Sifo, you'd probably not understand this outburst.

the ink cartridges look like platinum?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 18 November 2014, 16:46:10
(http://i.imgur.com/w4aYO6s.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 21:47:48
(http://i.imgur.com/aZyJxle.jpg)

Bertram's Inkwell was kind enough to send out free samples of Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu ink. I recieved my sample today. Written with a Lamy Vista with an OB nib. Really like obliques :D.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: MGH on Wed, 19 November 2014, 21:55:23
Whats a good beginner calligraphy pen? Calligraphy seems like a really cool art form.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 November 2014, 22:35:46
Whats a good beginner calligraphy pen? Calligraphy seems like a really cool art form.
Pilot parallels maybe?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 20 November 2014, 05:55:46
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/w4aYO6s.jpg)


Clogging with oil.  Maybe possible with dip pen but the rainbow would be gone once dried
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 20 November 2014, 05:57:23
Whats a good beginner calligraphy pen? Calligraphy seems like a really cool art form.

Make sure first you have time for it. Don't make it just a shopping hobby.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 20 November 2014, 05:59:47
MOTher fffffffffffffffff.......

Ok, u guys know the kuretake brushpen series ?

right. so.... this is not quality sable hair..  it's probably mixed as well..

I thought I might've gotten a "fake" cuz it's half the price on amazon vs jetpens.. so I ordered another 1 from jetpens.

same hair....

sigh....   Honestly I'd expect more for $40...   I can understand the fact that you'd cheap out on a full brush, but there's barely any hair used in a brush PEN....

/disappoint..

If you're not Sifo, you'd probably not understand this outburst.

the ink cartridges look like platinum?

The converter?  I don't think you'd want to use one since youd be running out of ink all the time
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 20 November 2014, 14:40:38
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/aZyJxle.jpg)


Bertram's Inkwell was kind enough to send out free samples of Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu ink. I recieved my sample today. Written with a Lamy Vista with an OB nib. Really like obliques :D.

(http://i.imgur.com/9gnND5I.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Lurch on Thu, 20 November 2014, 14:58:20
Why do I have to be a lefty with terrible penmanship? :'(

EDIT: Are mechanical pencils accepted in this thread? :-X
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 20 November 2014, 15:07:42
Why do I have to be a lefty with terrible penmanship? :'(

More
(http://i.imgur.com/o8rVuNN.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 20 November 2014, 15:20:07
Why do I have to be a lefty with terrible penmanship? :'(

EDIT: Are mechanical pencils accepted in this thread? :-X

pens, pencils, crayons, charcoal, brushes-- anything handwritten
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 11:52:35
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/21/0286b91cccb312bddbc0afce710ebf2d.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 21 November 2014, 22:10:13
(http://i.imgur.com/raQ2Nej.gif)

Oh crap. Sorry for the double post. I was so happy I made a .gif I didn't even look :(.

Ink is Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu. It's *so* pink. Barbie pink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 21 November 2014, 22:15:00
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/raQ2Nej.gif)


Oh crap. Sorry for the double post. I was so happy I made a .gif I didn't even look :(.

Ink is Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu. It's *so* pink. Barbie pink.

SO MANLY!!

(http://i.imgur.com/sKCTCbN.png)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 21 November 2014, 22:25:35
you got s
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/raQ2Nej.gif)


Oh crap. Sorry for the double post. I was so happy I made a .gif I didn't even look :(.

Ink is Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu. It's *so* pink. Barbie pink.
[/q
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/raQ2Nej.gif)


Oh crap. Sorry for the double post. I was so happy I made a .gif I didn't even look :(.

Ink is Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu. It's *so* pink. Barbie pink.

you got skills...........

Show Image
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1380927081_28459-Kramer-scared-gif-jIsA.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sat, 22 November 2014, 09:54:59
(wrong thread).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 22 November 2014, 16:15:05
I know this is not a big deal to most people, old nasty pen.........

However this particular pen I just found in my stash..........Pick Fountain Pen (rare), I would say late '20's early '30's

Flexible 14K/Pick italic fine-medium nib, nice smooth nib with great variation and shading (don't ask me to write- my handwriting is terrible)

Note the Cincinnati abr on nib- anybody here from Cincinnati :cool:?

Company was located in Cincinnati, Ohio for about 10 years give or take


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 22 November 2014, 16:34:32
Note the Cincinnati abr on nib- anybody here from Cincinnati :cool:?

Company was located in Cincinnati, Ohio for about 10 years give or take
Paging CPTBadAss
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 23 November 2014, 15:03:34
tines were kind of sprung because somebody grabbed and did not know how to write with a fountain pen, but i think i got back close ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 24 November 2014, 01:10:07
tines were kind of sprung because somebody grabbed and did not know how to write with a fountain pen, but i think i got back close ;D

I love italics, that is probably one smooth writer too.  Is that a nibmeister special?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 24 November 2014, 08:50:01
tines were kind of sprung because somebody grabbed and did not know how to write with a fountain pen, but i think i got back close ;D

I love italics, that is probably one smooth writer too.  Is that a nibmeister special?

hee-hee.............yes it is

john is not cheap, but is not known as the "nibmeister" for nothing :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:27:09
(http://i.imgur.com/Z9knMrT.jpg?2)

some fountain pen package art
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 26 November 2014, 16:36:57
Giveaway ended :),

(http://i.imgur.com/ihOef3e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3MZKbnS.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Wed, 26 November 2014, 16:46:05
does this have to be someone on GH or anybody?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 26 November 2014, 16:48:35
does this have to be someone on GH or anybody?

The letter you need to write can be to anyone.  You may have already written it.  That's alright too :) just don't tell us that you had already written it :p

The note you write and post here needs to explain why the help this person gave you is so important.  Essentially saying how this sort of help really makes a difference for others.  Be as specific as you feel you need to be, and no more if it's sensitive.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:14:28
My handwriting sucks :/

(http://i.imgur.com/KU8b8n2.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:18:31
Thank you for your submission!  I'm sure your mom will love the kudos as well  :thumb:

Handwriting is not a factor in this contest.  It's about the content.  Please write as best you can as it must be a handwritten entry.

IMO that's more legible than what I wrote for the rules lol.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Thu, 27 November 2014, 14:53:51
(http://i.imgur.com/9ysQC2i.png)

On a serious note, i have been trying to practice better handwriting.  I love the look of cursive, and if i write quickly it looks neat (think OLD style penmanship ) but i find to "forget" how to make certain letters. Maybe i just need to practice writing the alphabet in cursive
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 27 November 2014, 15:19:42
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9ysQC2i.png)


On a serious note, i have been trying to practice better handwriting.  I love the look of cursive, and if i write quickly it looks neat (think OLD style penmanship ) but i find to "forget" how to make certain letters. Maybe i just need to practice writing the alphabet in cursive

Just look at a cursive alphabet and other' writing and then try to mimic those letters
connecting letters is only done in two ways: from the line, or from the top
For capital letters.... do whatever the **** you want. As long as people know what the letter is it's fine. Capital letters are almost your identity and unique capitals are key in distinguishing your handwriting.
A good practice is to use the copperplate method of writing at a 55 degree angle for upstrokes and horizontal strokes parallel to your lines
Of course you can write upright if you want and it will still look fine
For added unnecessary flare and propriety, upstrokes are thin and light, while downstokes should be thick and heavy

Although really I am spouting a bunch of BS. Ask someone who knows what they are talking about.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Fri, 28 November 2014, 00:15:00
Thanks for the impetus to write something.  I have been meaning to write this person a letter for a few months. 

(http://i.imgur.com/PJ2xR5N.jpg)

Only one page of the letter is shown, and part of the first is cleverly hidden behind some hazard stickers due to privacy and reasons.  The "Thanks" part is in the omitted portion, and is also kept confidential for reasons.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 28 November 2014, 07:18:48
My entry...
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 28 November 2014, 17:08:49
My entry. My handwriting sucks but my friends changed my life.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 28 November 2014, 20:25:53
My entry. My handwriting sucks but my friends changed my life.

(Attachment Link)

My entry...
(Attachment Link)

Thanks for the impetus to write something.  I have been meaning to write this person a letter for a few months. 

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PJ2xR5N.jpg)


Only one page of the letter is shown, and part of the first is cleverly hidden behind some hazard stickers due to privacy and reasons.  The "Thanks" part is in the omitted portion, and is also kept confidential for reasons.

Awesome guys this is what I'm talking about :)  The holiday is a super humane time of year and it's not always about receiving or retail.  There's a lot of giving involved and these people are what give us the strength to walk into the new year with our heads held high.

Getting out a thanks is probably the loudest a voice can ever get.  Keep on rocking hackers :)  We've got a couple weeks left in this and each of these entries are really warming.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 28 November 2014, 22:09:21
keep 'em coming folks......... :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 02 December 2014, 12:47:48
(http://i.imgur.com/vQRybKT.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Tue, 02 December 2014, 13:02:07
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vQRybKT.jpg)


My office is poorly lit, makes taking pictures of writing difficult xD
(http://i.imgur.com/ImkM2kS.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 02 December 2014, 21:54:23
I'm surprised there aren't more entries.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 03 December 2014, 00:43:16
I'm surprised there aren't more entries.

(http://imgur.com/r5WsXzs.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 03 December 2014, 00:47:56
I'm surprised there aren't more entries.

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/r5WsXzs.jpg)


Those lacking time, discipline, and any, ANY, writing utensil need not apply.  I would have to agree with you that it does require effort and I can only surmise that there are quite a few people out there allergic to it when it comes to getting hand-outs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: byker on Wed, 03 December 2014, 02:05:33
I'm surprised there aren't more entries.

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/r5WsXzs.jpg)


Those lacking time, discipline, and any, ANY, writing utensil need not apply.  I would have to agree with you that it does require effort and I can only surmise that there are quite a few people out there allergic to it when it comes to getting hand-outs.

My fountain pen ran out of ink yesterday. :( If i get more ink in time I will apply.  :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 03 December 2014, 04:55:26
I'm surprised there aren't more entries.

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/r5WsXzs.jpg)


Those lacking time, discipline, and any, ANY, writing utensil need not apply.  I would have to agree with you that it does require effort and I can only surmise that there are quite a few people out there allergic to it when it comes to getting hand-outs.

My fountain pen ran out of ink yesterday. :( If i get more ink in time I will apply.  :)


Quickly wrote some casual..  beware, the lines are emotional.. if you don't like emotional outbursty writing.. Don't read it..

There is also this thwarted-perception, that great writing is highly uniform..  that is only true of business hand...  it does not carry over for every occasion..


Done with Pencil..  no special tools. 

Also, yes I intentionally spelled it penmenship.. because it's never been about 1 guy.

[attach=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 03 December 2014, 10:57:20
I'm surprised there aren't more entries.

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(http://imgur.com/r5WsXzs.jpg)


Those lacking time, discipline, and any, ANY, writing utensil need not apply.  I would have to agree with you that it does require effort and I can only surmise that there are quite a few people out there allergic to it when it comes to getting hand-outs.

My fountain pen ran out of ink yesterday. :( If i get more ink in time I will apply.  :)

I'm confused.  This is a handwriting thread...  Anyone can enter with any piece of handwriting.  There are no rules anywhere that state it must be done with X, Y, or Z utensil.  Just write to someone you care about and share your reasons for being thankful here to the best of your ability.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 December 2014, 05:30:57
I'm surprised there aren't more entries.

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/r5WsXzs.jpg)


Those lacking time, discipline, and any, ANY, writing utensil need not apply.  I would have to agree with you that it does require effort and I can only surmise that there are quite a few people out there allergic to it when it comes to getting hand-outs.

My fountain pen ran out of ink yesterday. :( If i get more ink in time I will apply.  :)

I'm confused.  This is a handwriting thread...  Anyone can enter with any piece of handwriting.  There are no rules anywhere that state it must be done with X, Y, or Z utensil.  Just write to someone you care about and share your reasons for being thankful here to the best of your ability.

Yup.. what I said.. penmenship is about balancing line width, proportions and shapes..   

That is the CORE concept..

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Thu, 04 December 2014, 15:12:26
I ended up getting a handwritten reply because of my letter.  Just finished a return letter.  I think this is going to be a thing.  Thanks again Binge.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 04 December 2014, 16:59:03
I ended up getting a handwritten reply because of my letter.  Just finished a return letter.  I think this is going to be a thing.  Thanks again Binge.

I love this little exercise :)  You will be rewarded for your efforts no matter if it's by me or just by the act of writing.  It's not an anesthetized sort of contest, term lightly being used here, because the results don't just end with a keycap prize.  Happy to have been a catalyst of sorts.

::EDIT:: to anyone looking to write in.

I know that I've said just write a letter, but also please give writing with a fountain pen a shot.  A pack of 12 pilot varsity pens costs $2 USD.  They are refillable if you ever really like them, and honestly you won't regret it.  The important thing in my eyes is that a bit of effort goes into reaching out to someone you know and being thankful for them in a sort of "old-timey" way.  Like BlueNalgene has just shared it makes a difference and has more of an impact.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Thu, 04 December 2014, 17:10:51
I know that I've said just write a letter, but also please give writing with a fountain pen a shot.  A pack of 12 pilot varsity pens costs $2 USD.  They are refillable if you ever really like them, and honestly you won't regret it.  The important thing in my eyes is that a bit of effort goes into reaching out to someone you know and being thankful for them in a sort of "old-timey" way.  Like BlueNalgene has just shared it makes a difference and has more of an impact.

I'm glad I seen this, I used a Pilot pen at a funeral home a while back and LOVED it but I couldnt figure out which pen it was .. I'll be buying these at wal-mart/target/etc come saturday
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 04 December 2014, 18:27:20
sdf
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 04 December 2014, 20:21:52
moving right along you are encouraged to share in the fun....... :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Thu, 04 December 2014, 20:27:31
moving right along you are encouraged to share in the fun....... :thumb:

I was the first to enter ..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:02:09
moving right along you are encouraged to share in the fun....... :thumb:

I was the first to enter ..

Yeah- he might be referring to the FP fun :p  One of us... one of us hahaha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 06 December 2014, 16:33:40
(http://fpgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/10000-year-brush-very-large.png)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 06 December 2014, 16:46:36
(http://simplicityembellished.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Lettering-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 07 December 2014, 11:37:03
(http://i.imgur.com/rXtU2Bi.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 08 December 2014, 17:39:58
do this with a ballpoint or pencil..........

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/gunsandlights/RKVerdigrisShading.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 08 December 2014, 17:45:28
Hrrm ? (http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/k/a/kaminaonionplz.gif?1)

Honestly, I'd like to see u do what I do with that fountain pen of urs..

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 10 December 2014, 14:06:33
Now that all the drama is behind us.  Let's get back to handwriting, whether you prefer a
(http://imgur.com/TXVvITv.jpg)
or a
(http://imgur.com/3jdJZQh.jpg)

I made that ambigram with both.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 December 2014, 06:29:26
Binge and I are going to the Philly Pen Show in January 2015! Anyone from GH want to join us?

Now that all the drama is behind us.  Let's get back to handwriting, whether you prefer a
Show Image
(http://imgur.com/TXVvITv.jpg)

or a
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(http://imgur.com/3jdJZQh.jpg)


I made that ambigram with both.

This is awesome :D.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 12 December 2014, 07:15:14
When in January?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 12 December 2014, 07:18:08
January 16th - 18th (http://www.philadelphiapenshow.com/).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 12 December 2014, 07:39:49
Well that sucks. The 16th is my last day of work in Indy so I wont be able to make it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 12 December 2014, 10:45:38
Well that sucks. The 16th is my last day of work in Indy so I wont be able to make it.

Tell the man to eat salty figs and get to Philly for this show!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PunksDead on Fri, 12 December 2014, 16:39:48
(http://i.imgur.com/ysmQAkc.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 December 2014, 16:45:50
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(http://i.imgur.com/ysmQAkc.jpg)




Serial Killer.. fur sur
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PunksDead on Fri, 12 December 2014, 16:58:37
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(http://i.imgur.com/ysmQAkc.jpg)




Serial Killer.. fur sur

(http://i.imgur.com/W5AssGc.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 December 2014, 17:01:00
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(http://i.imgur.com/ysmQAkc.jpg)




Serial Killer.. fur sur

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/W5AssGc.jpg)


(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523)

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/good-job-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862505)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/good-job-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862505)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/good-job-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862505)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/good-job-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862505)(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/good-job-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862505)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 12 December 2014, 17:51:59
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(http://i.imgur.com/ysmQAkc.jpg)




Dem Kult S-kills

I love some Kult letter art.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sat, 13 December 2014, 04:05:08
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(http://i.imgur.com/ysmQAkc.jpg)

it's obvious that you are awesome and have issues.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 09:40:37
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(http://i.imgur.com/ysmQAkc.jpg)




Serial Killer.. fur sur

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/W5AssGc.jpg)

That was one of the first times I've audibly laughed at something on the internet
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Tue, 16 December 2014, 17:04:27
Mt. Dew Lion Keyng and note from Binge :D

All pics are from my phone

(http://i.imgur.com/9WNGGbx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jrXBNGb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wHenqw7.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 December 2014, 20:12:58
Congrats tigersharkdude!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 17 December 2014, 05:03:15
Got mine yesterday too...

(http://i.imgur.com/YEwSYoN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/R2N5pPN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZoTTIsC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wkjQc3K.jpg) ...I LOVE IT!!! THANK YOU BINGE!!!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 December 2014, 06:47:06
Damn Binge, what ink is that blue ink in do_og@n's note? The shading is really nice :). Congrats!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 17 December 2014, 10:00:51
Damn Binge, what ink is that blue ink in do_og@n's note? The shading is really nice :). Congrats!

That's my baby Bleu Atlantique from l'Artisan Pastellier, http://artisanpastellier.com/catalog/index.php in their callifolio collection.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 17 December 2014, 12:32:37
I guess since everyone else has posted their keys here, I should cross post from the Keythulhu thread. 

Behold, my first artisan cap.

Behold.

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Zoom, enhance!

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(http://i.imgur.com/GzV2hEn.jpg)












Bonus Cathulhu pic

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(http://i.imgur.com/bsAH247.jpg)


I will have to take a picture of the note when I get back to the house. 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 17 December 2014, 20:05:04
I guess since everyone else has posted their keys here, I should cross post from the Keythulhu thread. 

Behold, my first artisan cap.

Behold.

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(http://i.imgur.com/qdTJrW8.jpg)


Zoom, enhance!

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(http://i.imgur.com/GzV2hEn.jpg)












Bonus Cathulhu pic

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(http://i.imgur.com/bsAH247.jpg)


I will have to take a picture of the note when I get back to the house. 

Awesome!!!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 17 December 2014, 20:39:54
(http://imgur.com/8g1SBx6.jpg)

The promised pressure-shaded penmanship pornography.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Thu, 18 December 2014, 05:01:59
Apologies in advance for the photo-heavy post.

(http://i.imgur.com/btrQjOm.jpg)

(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7539/15862855419_86158039a2_c.jpg)
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8593/15426614264_123b42a526_c.jpg)
Nakaya Long Piccolo, Shiro-tamenuri, rose gold trim, soft medium reground to a cursive italic

(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7569/16046937771_7326f729f9_c.jpg)
Lamy Dialog 3, reground to a medium stub

(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7540/16023105666_d36cb9e40e_c.jpg)
Sheaffer Targa 1005 (gold fluted), reground to a medium

(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7478/15861434278_c4f3511882_c.jpg)
Pilot Vanishing Point, blue carbonesque, reground to a fine cursive italic

(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8567/15426599314_3b7dd60dcf_c.jpg)
Nakaya Naka-ai, Aka-tamenuri, music nib

(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8565/16048176262_e2912e0a8d_c.jpg)
Wahl-Eversharp Skyline, Doctors Tribute Pen, reground to a medium cursive italic

(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8605/15862828829_e15161e1ae_c.jpg)
Mont Blanc 149, vintage circa 1960s, fine nib

(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7515/16046918111_3ee6d38d67_c.jpg)
Omas 360, 75th Anniversary, reground to a fine cursive italic

I omitted some of the pictures, but you can find the rest on my Flick (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroblade/sets/72157625534160119/)r!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 18 December 2014, 05:26:22
^thank you very much for the photo-heavy post.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 18 December 2014, 07:49:18
this thread is entertaining
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 December 2014, 08:33:52
Agreed with iri, thanks for the pictures. Hows the Omas feel in hand? And thanks for sharing the note!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 18 December 2014, 10:01:23
Apologies in advance for the photo-heavy post.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/btrQjOm.jpg)


Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7539/15862855419_86158039a2_c.jpg)

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8593/15426614264_123b42a526_c.jpg)

Nakaya Long Piccolo, Shiro-tamenuri, rose gold trim, soft medium reground to a cursive italic

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7569/16046937771_7326f729f9_c.jpg)

Lamy Dialog 3, reground to a medium stub

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7540/16023105666_d36cb9e40e_c.jpg)

Sheaffer Targa 1005 (gold fluted), reground to a medium

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7478/15861434278_c4f3511882_c.jpg)

Pilot Vanishing Point, blue carbonesque, reground to a fine cursive italic

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8567/15426599314_3b7dd60dcf_c.jpg)

Nakaya Naka-ai, Aka-tamenuri, music nib

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8565/16048176262_e2912e0a8d_c.jpg)

Wahl-Eversharp Skyline, Doctors Tribute Pen, reground to a medium cursive italic

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8605/15862828829_e15161e1ae_c.jpg)

Mont Blanc 149, vintage circa 1960s, fine nib

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7515/16046918111_3ee6d38d67_c.jpg)

Omas 360, 75th Anniversary, reground to a fine cursive italic

I omitted some of the pictures, but you can find the rest on my Flick (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroblade/sets/72157625534160119/)r!

Awesome post :)  It makes me want to practice my writing even more!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 18 December 2014, 10:21:08
Ditto.....great looking ink and FP's!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Thu, 18 December 2014, 15:07:40
Agreed with iri, thanks for the pictures. Hows the Omas feel in hand? And thanks for sharing the note!

Overall the Omas has a grip similar to a Safari's because of the shape.
Very light in the hand due to the cotton resin, but the edges will likely bother some people.
Although I am pretty much a huge Omas fanboy, I'm not too fond of the 360 (although I would still like one, perhaps the turquoise demonstrator, for collection).
Having an old style Ogiva and a Milord (smaller Paragon), I do prefer them when it comes to both appearance and handling.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 22 December 2014, 22:01:28
thanks guys...............loving it :cool:

(http://i.imgur.com/N6Ob3HO.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 23 December 2014, 12:29:49
thanks guys...............loving it :cool:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/N6Ob3HO.jpg)


This is beautiful :)  Did you keep the stock nib on it or fashion it with something in your archive?  Looks like a lovely writer.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Tue, 23 December 2014, 12:44:23
Im having no luck finding Pilot Varsitys locally :( . Ive checked; Wal-Mart, Target, OfficeMax, and Staples. I guess I will get some from Amazon next month
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 23 December 2014, 13:21:05
thanks guys...............loving it :cool:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/N6Ob3HO.jpg)


This is beautiful :)  Did you keep the stock nib on it or fashion it with something in your archive?  Looks like a lovely writer.

I am loving the broad you guys ordered on it :p

First steel nib I have ever tried out of the box that is this smooth and wet. Most are sort of dry and you can feel them if you catch my drift...............this one is "quite" smooth.

Goes pretty good with those red, white and blue Binge caps.......'eh?

One of these days I will find a "Patriot Bro" to go with-- that would look awesome :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheAngelicWolf on Thu, 25 December 2014, 21:37:23
This Christmas, I got my first "real" fountain pen. I got a Pilot Metropolitan in black with crocodile accents and a fine nib. Do you guys have any tips for me to improve my handwriting?

[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 25 December 2014, 22:44:37
This Christmas, I got my first "real" fountain pen. I got a Pilot Metropolitan in black with crocodile accents and a fine nib. Do you guys have any tips for me to improve my handwriting?

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
First off, congrats! I love the Pilot Metro!!

Find handwriting samples in picture or video form. Then see how people form their letters. For example, I grew up with Palmer cursive but I hate how my upper case As and Hs look. I found samples of those letters I like and write it over and over. I practice my handwriting by writing out the alphabet in Nato phonetic alphabet.
Im having no luck finding Pilot Varsitys locally :( . Ive checked; Wal-Mart, Target, OfficeMax, and Staples. I guess I will get some from Amazon next month
I'll send you a 3 pack. Send me a PM with your info.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: melkenshawn on Sun, 28 December 2014, 15:36:30
Apologies in advance for the photo-heavy post.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/btrQjOm.jpg)


Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7539/15862855419_86158039a2_c.jpg)

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8593/15426614264_123b42a526_c.jpg)

Nakaya Long Piccolo, Shiro-tamenuri, rose gold trim, soft medium reground to a cursive italic

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7569/16046937771_7326f729f9_c.jpg)

Lamy Dialog 3, reground to a medium stub

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7540/16023105666_d36cb9e40e_c.jpg)

Sheaffer Targa 1005 (gold fluted), reground to a medium

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7478/15861434278_c4f3511882_c.jpg)

Pilot Vanishing Point, blue carbonesque, reground to a fine cursive italic

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8567/15426599314_3b7dd60dcf_c.jpg)

Nakaya Naka-ai, Aka-tamenuri, music nib

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8565/16048176262_e2912e0a8d_c.jpg)

Wahl-Eversharp Skyline, Doctors Tribute Pen, reground to a medium cursive italic

Show Image
(http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8605/15862828829_e15161e1ae_c.jpg)

Mont Blanc 149, vintage circa 1960s, fine nib

Show Image
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7515/16046918111_3ee6d38d67_c.jpg)

Omas 360, 75th Anniversary, reground to a fine cursive italic

I omitted some of the pictures, but you can find the rest on my Flick (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zeroblade/sets/72157625534160119/)r!

Wow the venerable Nakaya pens. Are they really nice to write with? How much did you pay for them? Last of all, out of the entire bunch, which is your favorite writing pen?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 29 December 2014, 06:17:26
This Christmas, I got my first "real" fountain pen. I got a Pilot Metropolitan in black with crocodile accents and a fine nib. Do you guys have any tips for me to improve my handwriting?

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

Only tip I can give you is....practice. I've also looked at samples and just messed around but the best way is to put pen to paper.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 29 December 2014, 11:27:12
not really handwriting, but one of my fountain pen displays.............

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 29 December 2014, 11:43:49
I really want to show my collection of ink, but I have to use all of them before I can really showcase what I've got.

Still writing every day.  There are times I can see the improvement, and others where I wonder what I'm spending my time to accomplish.

Adding some of my daily writing.  Todays subject opinions on FPs/writing,

(http://i.imgur.com/YK0smC1.png)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Mon, 29 December 2014, 22:32:51
not really handwriting, but one of my fountain pen displays.............

The strong Americana styling of your pen curio and surroundings deviates strongly from what I assume all members of the forum are like.  Not trying to be a ****, just an observation that caught me a bit off guard.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 29 December 2014, 23:24:08
not really handwriting, but one of my fountain pen displays.............

The strong Americana styling of your pen curio and surroundings deviates strongly from what I assume all members of the forum are like.  Not trying to be a ****, just an observation that caught me a bit off guard.

ask me if I care...........

i am a proud American Patriot who was injured while on active duty in military service to my country and I am neither ashamed or feel need to apologize that I bleed red, white and blue

I carry those wounds with me still today and would do it over again if need be :cool:

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 30 December 2014, 00:55:52
My wonderful handwriting comparable to a 5th graders
(http://i.imgur.com/qW6mBNt.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 30 December 2014, 02:12:20
not really handwriting, but one of my fountain pen displays.............

The strong Americana styling of your pen curio and surroundings deviates strongly from what I assume all members of the forum are like.  Not trying to be a ****, just an observation that caught me a bit off guard.
(http://i.imgur.com/OXsRlNN.png)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheAngelicWolf on Tue, 30 December 2014, 02:25:11
not really handwriting, but one of my fountain pen displays.............

The strong Americana styling of your pen curio and surroundings deviates strongly from what I assume all members of the forum are like.  Not trying to be a ****, just an observation that caught me a bit off guard.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OXsRlNN.png)

Oh damn, I just noticed the fountain pen  :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 30 December 2014, 10:02:46
(http://i.imgur.com/3zWWfxO.png)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 30 December 2014, 14:36:48
not really handwriting, but one of my fountain pen displays.............

The strong Americana styling of your pen curio and surroundings deviates strongly from what I assume all members of the forum are like.  Not trying to be a ****, just an observation that caught me a bit off guard.

ask me if I care...........

i am a proud American Patriot who was injured while on active duty in military service to my country and I am neither ashamed or feel need to apologize that I bleed red, white and blue

I carry those wounds with me still today and would do it over again if need be :cool:

Well shoot, I wasn't even thinking about that.  I was talking about the New England style wood carving and the choice of oval picture frames.  The last thing I want to do is start a ****storm here.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 31 December 2014, 13:33:24
I'm not a pen guy or a collector, but generally I just like well designed things that last for years, and I found a rotring pen on ebay that i'm goingt o try to win, $100-130 for a pen is kinda crazy though, espc. since I generally just use fine point sharpies to write with.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 31 December 2014, 14:43:29
I'm not a pen guy or a collector, but generally I just like well designed things that last for years, and I found a rotring pen on ebay that i'm goingt o try to win, $100-130 for a pen is kinda crazy though, espc. since I generally just use fine point sharpies to write with.

I love fineliners.  Various pens can actually achieve similar results without being as wasteful.  Personally I enjoy refillable pens because it further distances me from a disposable mindset.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Wed, 31 December 2014, 14:48:13
I'm not a pen guy or a collector, but generally I just like well designed things that last for years, and I found a rotring pen on ebay that i'm goingt o try to win, $100-130 for a pen is kinda crazy though, espc. since I generally just use fine point sharpies to write with.

I love fineliners.  Various pens can actually achieve similar results without being as wasteful.  Personally I enjoy refillable pens because it further distances me from a disposable mindset.

While they are disposable, I really like hitec-c ink cartridges. I bought myself a titanium body for them, and have been using that pen almost exclusively over the last several months.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 01 January 2015, 13:10:38
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Sun, 04 January 2015, 19:17:34
Whoo!

I just won a used rotring 600 pen off ebay for $85.

Super excited about it. I have one of the pencils, but would love a pen to match with it.

I still want to try out some fountain pens though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nandop on Sun, 04 January 2015, 19:29:30
(http://i.imgur.com/j9od88q.jpg)

I enjoy handwriting too!

I was studying Differential Equations and had a test 30 minutes prior to this picture and I was rushing like crazy. I did this problem so many times that this one came out almost without mistakes. Once I was done, I was so proud I took this picture. haha This is a differential equation being solved using power series.

That is a Uni-ball Kuru Toga .5mm mechanical pencil.

Oh I almost forgot! I bought a Pentel Metropolitan medium nib and it branches like crazy with their ink. I'm going to get a fine nib soon, but are there any inks that are thick or that doesn't go super fuzzy around the edges?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 04 January 2015, 19:32:55
that is some serious handwriting bro :cool:

thanks for sharing and keep it up :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nandop on Sun, 04 January 2015, 19:46:20
that is some serious handwriting bro :cool:

thanks for sharing and keep it up :thumb:

Thank you!   ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 04 January 2015, 20:13:59
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j9od88q.jpg)


I enjoy handwriting too!

I was studying Differential Equations and had a test 30 minutes prior to this picture and I was rushing like crazy. I did this problem so many times that this one came out almost without mistakes. Once I was done, I was so proud I took this picture. haha This is a differential equation being solved using power series.

That is a Uni-ball Kuru Toga .5mm mechanical pencil.

Nice handwriting!

Oh I almost forgot! I bought a Pentel Metropolitan medium nib and it branches like crazy with their ink. I'm going to get a fine nib soon, but are there any inks that are thick or that doesn't go super fuzzy around the edges?

J Herbin inks have been very well behaved for me. Same thing with Diamine. If you have the budget, the Pilot Iroshizuku inks are nice. But I would pick an ink from J Herbin or Diamine and write on heavier weight papers. You're seeing fuzzy-ness because the paper you're writing on is absorbent. So you can go with finer tips to try and solve the issue if you don't want to change what paper you're using.

Wow the venerable Nakaya pens. Are they really nice to write with? How much did you pay for them?

I think the one that I have cost $400. They are solid daily writers in my opinion. A very hard gold nib though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 04 January 2015, 20:20:41
Whoo!

I just won a used rotring 600 pen off ebay for $85.

Super excited about it. I have one of the pencils, but would love a pen to match with it.

I still want to try out some fountain pens though.

That sounds awesome.  I read that you like well made machines?  Check out the Conid pen.  http://www.conidpen.com/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nandop on Sun, 04 January 2015, 20:23:50
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j9od88q.jpg)


I enjoy handwriting too!

I was studying Differential Equations and had a test 30 minutes prior to this picture and I was rushing like crazy. I did this problem so many times that this one came out almost without mistakes. Once I was done, I was so proud I took this picture. haha This is a differential equation being solved using power series.

That is a Uni-ball Kuru Toga .5mm mechanical pencil.

Nice handwriting!

Oh I almost forgot! I bought a Pentel Metropolitan medium nib and it branches like crazy with their ink. I'm going to get a fine nib soon, but are there any inks that are thick or that doesn't go super fuzzy around the edges?

J Herbin inks have been very well behaved for me. Same thing with Diamine. If you have the budget, the Pilot Iroshizuku inks are nice. But I would pick an ink from J Herbin or Diamine and write on heavier weight papers. You're seeing fuzzy-ness because the paper you're writing on is absorbent. So you can go with finer tips to try and solve the issue if you don't want to change what paper you're using.

Wow the venerable Nakaya pens. Are they really nice to write with? How much did you pay for them?

I think the one that I have cost $400. They are solid daily writers in my opinion. A very hard gold nib though.

Thank you! I got a fine nib from mass drop now, same pen. I'll get a more expensive one once I graduate. :D

That is awesome! Would you mind sharing which model/maker it is?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sun, 04 January 2015, 20:26:06
Whoo!

I just won a used rotring 600 pen off ebay for $85.

Super excited about it. I have one of the pencils, but would love a pen to match with it.

I still want to try out some fountain pens though.

That sounds awesome.  I read that you like well made machines?  Check out the Conid pen.  http://www.conidpen.com/

I want one but 370 euros :'(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nandop on Sun, 04 January 2015, 20:29:30
Whoo!

I just won a used rotring 600 pen off ebay for $85.

Super excited about it. I have one of the pencils, but would love a pen to match with it.

I still want to try out some fountain pens though.

What's so special about that pencil that satisfies for its cost?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Sun, 04 January 2015, 20:36:23
nothing really, its just a brass machined mechanical pencil.

Though I work in architecture, so a good pencil is a really nice thing to have on hand. My boss is one of those old guys who will shame if you if you don't always have a pen on hand.

The pencils are only $30 on ebay, but the pens were discontinued a long time ago, and so have a high cost on ebay.


I just OCD a bit about things, and when I find something I like, I prefer to have my things matching. So having a matching pen and pencil will be awesome. I don't really make much money to spend on luxury items such as this, but lately i've gone a bit hipster and have been looking to basically buy high quality items that last years vs modern cheap disposable things ( ex: a safety razor for shaving, good pens/pencils, a nice leather office bag vs a cheap nylon one from office stores, keyboards, etc )

Typically I usually just write with fine tip sharpies though.

The thing that keeps me from buying a fountain pen is how fat they are. I prefer skinny pens and pencils.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nandop on Sun, 04 January 2015, 20:40:08
nothing really, its just a brass machined mechanical pencil.

Though I work in architecture, so a good pencil is a really nice thing to have.

The pencils are only $30 on ebay, but the pens were discontinued a long time ago, and so have a high cost on ebay.


I just OCD a bit about things, and when I find something I like, I prefer to have my things matching. So having a matching pen and pencil will be awesome.

Typically I usually just write with fine tip sharpies though.

The thing that keeps me from buying a fountain pen is how fat they are. I prefer skinny pens and pencils.

Thanks! I might get one. :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Sun, 04 January 2015, 21:09:04
EDIT: sorry, the pencils are $30 on amazon, the ones on ebay are usually ones from the 80-90's that have slightly different logos, but are otherwise the same.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:28:59
A fun sampling of my daily tasks and notes to self.

(http://imgur.com/PQHOfja.jpg)

Contains multiple writing utensils (black text is daily driver fountain pen, bold is calligraphy marker, pencil is pencil), multiple languages (Russian), writing styles (cursive, Title Case, chicken scratched dimensions), and doodles.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:12:18
What's so special about that pencil that satisfies for its cost?

The Rotring 600 is a drafting pencil and I used to work in drafting. The tip is very solid and doesn't wobble so you can get straighter lines. The weight of the pencil means you get a consistent line. And the tip design is such that if you use straight edges or other tools with the pencil, you get a true line around that tool. They're great tools. I've got a .6mm and .8mm.

Thank you! I got a fine nib from mass drop now, same pen. I'll get a more expensive one once I graduate. :D

That is awesome! Would you mind sharing which model/maker it is?

My Nakaya Briarwood (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1536604#msg1536604).




For a Christmas gift, my sister made me a carrying case for my little collection. Check it out (album of its creation can be seen by clicking on the picture below)

(http://i.imgur.com/ay3razL.jpg) (http://imgur.com/a/XDmhk)

Binge was also kind enough to send me this this gift. He even lifts!

(http://i.imgur.com/Q9PRO5k.jpg)




I also took a little time to check out the Mont Blanc Boutique, Cartier, Hermes, and Louis Vuitton in NYC to see what fountain pens they had to offer. Here's some pictures of my favorite. The Hermes Nautilus. Oh and some pictures of one of the Hermes exclusive inks.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ja9cJNQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QXcP0nG.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/bWAL0LB.jpg)




And for fun, here's some ink swabs. The pink text is my normal handwriting. It's Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu that Bertram's Inkwell gave away :D.

(http://i.imgur.com/6fUvfbn.jpg)




Someone asked how I improve my handwriting? Here I **** up the lower case k in quickly and practice writing it correctly. I'm trying to move away from that loop which I dislike. It looks silly.

(http://i.imgur.com/b6YUqe5.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:14:48
Awesome post dude and love the case :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 09 January 2015, 09:25:55
Whoo! got my pens in!

A original rotring 600 pen ( in the same style as the pencils ) And I love it. Its black, and has been well used, but aside from a little brass showing on a edge here and there, its in great shape. ( and I got it for about half of what new ones go for on ebay ) I also ordered a new 600 pencil to match it. 

The other is a bigger rotring 600 pen, and due to a mis-label on ebay, I got it for only $25, and they sell on there often for $120+

I kinda like it, I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it or possibly flip it and buy myself a new 600 pen.

Never thought i'd spend lots of money on pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 09 January 2015, 09:29:36
Whoo! got my pens in!

A original rotring 600 pen ( in the same style as the pencils ) And I love it. Its black, and has been well used, but aside from a little brass showing on a edge here and there, its in great shape. ( and I got it for about half of what new ones go for on ebay ) I also ordered a new 600 pencil to match it. 

The other is a bigger rotring 600 pen, and due to a mis-label on ebay, I got it for only $25, and they sell on there often for $120+

I kinda like it, I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it or possibly flip it and buy myself a new 600 pen.

Never thought i'd spend lots of money on pens.

I feel that way about a lot of my hobbies. Self control is hard.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 09 January 2015, 09:44:27
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/e8c74669-458e-4e0d-8c5d-06b1b9cb1007_zps2787f4ea.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/e8c74669-458e-4e0d-8c5d-06b1b9cb1007_zps2787f4ea.jpg.html)

Rotring rapid pro ( it sucks ) amazon, $30
600 pencil .7mm ( its awesome ) amazon $30
600 pen ( pilot g2 refils fit it :D )its awesome, $25 ebay
and my 600 pen, a bit rough but not bad, and i love it $85 ebay.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:01:42
What do you find different between the rapid pro and 600 jixr? I didn't know the rapid pro was a thing until recently and I'm curious.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 09 January 2015, 10:26:14
Its not a bad pen by any means, its just not a $30 pen.
( at least compared to a $30 600 pencil )

The 600 has nice cut edges, and the rapid is more round.
The 600 is all metal, but the rapid has plastic screw threads.
The clicker part is really wobbly ( a pilot G2 feels more solid )

Its kind of a cheap pen disguised as an expensive one.
I'd pay $15 for it and be happy, but at $30, it was kind of a
"I don't like it, but don't hate it enough to return it"

Though it does use parker refills, the grip is nice, It looks nice, weight is good and balanced, but it just lacks that machined precision that the 600 series has. The nice edges, the solid build and precision is what made me love the 600 pencil, and end up spending all this money on pens, and I'm not a collector or a writer or anything like that. I just like well made things.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sun, 11 January 2015, 16:23:07
Hey guys, I was kinda nostalgic and searched a bout around and found the fountain pens. My parents had two of those but unfortunately they broke and as I was young and my father said it was not possible to repair them we threw them away. But I would want to have one again, as writing with it was like being on cloud 7 for me. So could you help a brother out? I'm not sure what you guys need to get started. So I'll give some basic info and wait what you'll need more to know to give me an recommendation.
- I'm a left-hander (so I guess I need a fine nib and some ink that can dry up quicker so that I don't wipe it along the paper with my hand)
- I searched a bit and it seems a Pilot Metropolitan Fine Nib would be good and not too expensive.
- I dont want to go over 50€. If it is to be below that and I still can get a good pen, I'd go for that instead as I want to minimize my investment if the fountain pens are not meant to be for me besides the one I had in my childhood (Unfortunately I'm kinda picky regarding certain things).
- As I'm residing in Germany I'd like to minimize shipping cost as much as possible. I found some fountain pens via eBay but the shipping cost were sometimes almost the smae what the pen would cost.

[] I also wanted to know if the fountain pens are very sensible if I travel with them in my bag? Do I need to take care of them or is it alright to put them in a case and put the case into my bag?

P.S.: Unfortunately I don't know what kind of pen I had back in my childhood, I only know that it had a lot of engravings on the body and nib, it was completely gold (probably only covered with gold) except the nib thingy (I don't know the exact word for this). I moved from Kazakhstan to Germany maybe it is some kind of "speciality" from Russia/Russian Federation to distinguish it more easily (?). It's possible that this could be some kind of graduation gift you get after college as these pens (I had two) were from my parents. Maybe with the help of you we can conclude what was the name and if it is still purchasable :)
The engravings looked a little bit like this (http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/MabieTodd/Pics/MabieToddEyedropper08.jpg) I found while browsing the net.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 11 January 2015, 17:27:37
I'll let some of the others comment on which fountain pen as most of mine are vintage-- anything Pilot is a good choice though :thumb:

Some of the Chinese pens like Hero, Jinhao, Duke, etc. can be nice and picked up on the cheap.

Being a left hander regardless you should invest in some fast drying ink. What some left handers I have seen do is have another sheet of paper under their hand when writing so as not to smear what they previously wrote as your hands can sweat.

Not sure how old your parents are, whether the pens were bought by them, given, etc., but being they were filigree at least here in the US they would generally be Waterman. Pretty much all pen manufacturers made some sort of ornate, gold plated, silver fountain pens, but like I said Waterman probably made the most and are the most common. I am not very familiar with Russian pens, but know a lot were knock offs.

Most of us these days keep our pens when we are traveling in some sort of pen case.

Hope this helps........ :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sun, 11 January 2015, 18:26:04
anything Pilot is a good choice though :thumb:
[...]
Hope this helps........ :D

This helps, thanks! :)

Some of the Chinese pens like Hero, Jinhao, Duke, etc. can be nice and picked up on the cheap.

I've looked into some of the chinese pens, but actually I don't know what to look for and what to look at to decide if that's a good pen or not. Would be sad to buy one and than he will be not really good with the ink coming out of the nib. I'm not looking for totally cheap pens, but affordable within a reasonable price range for a "starter" I'd say. Especially as I've seen here in this thread there are very expensive fountain pens available, but damn they look so fine :-*

Not sure how old your parents are, whether the pens were bought by them, given, etc., but being they were filigree at least here in the US they would generally be Waterman. Pretty much all pen manufacturers made some sort of ornate, gold plated, silver fountain pens, but like I said Waterman probably made the most and are the most common. I am not very familiar with Russian pens, but know a lot were knock offs.

I'm not sure either how they got them, I'll ask them tomorrow to give more hints. I've come across Waterman while researching and they do look similar, just like in the picture I posted. Maybe we can narrow it down a bit more :)

Most of us these days keep our pens when we are traveling in some sort of pen case.

And if the bag with the pen case is being "thrown" a bit, like when you come home and take off the bag and you don't put it down carefully. Will this damage a fountain pen within a pen case? :)

Good night :]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 11 January 2015, 18:29:08
And if the bag with the pen case is being "thrown" a bit, like when you come home and take off the bag and you don't put it down carefully. Will this damage a fountain pen within a pen case? :)
not if it's a good case ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sun, 11 January 2015, 18:33:57
And if the bag with the pen case is being "thrown" a bit, like when you come home and take off the bag and you don't put it down carefully. Will this damage a fountain pen within a pen case? :)
not if it's a good case ;)

Sounds good to me, as sometimes I forget that I have sensitive stuff in my bag. :)

For the Waterman pens, I guess they are too expensive for me. I've looked some up randomly, seems to be in a price range of ~150$
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Sun, 11 January 2015, 18:51:00
Some better photos of my pens!

I'm probably going to sell the fat silver one to buy another skinny one, or may just keep it and buy a new old stock black one on ebay, but they are not cheap at all. ( just as expensive as the fountain pens )

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_4401_zpsc4004f08.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_4401_zpsc4004f08.jpg.html)
It uses Pilot G2 style refils, so I'm using 1mm bold refill and it fits the pen quite well. Its in pretty good shape, the only damage being a bit of paint flaked off the grippy part on the back of the pen.

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_4399_zps15a711c2.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_4399_zps15a711c2.jpg.html)
My 600 pen, and I absolutely love it. Its pretty beat up. Not damaged, but you can tell its been well used, lots of brass poking out behind the black paint.
Really want to get a new one, but man, they are so expensive.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Mon, 12 January 2015, 13:24:10
I totally YOLO'd and bought a new in box 600 pen. Gonna store it away until the one I have either dies breaks or whatever.

That way I can have a nice one, and a beater one to carry around and use every day.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 12 January 2015, 16:01:46
(http://i.imgur.com/UCyRfdh.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 12 January 2015, 16:55:33
Hey guys, I was kinda nostalgic and searched a bout around and found the fountain pens.

<snip>

Hey! If you're in Germany, I highly suggest looking into picking up a Lamy or Kaweco. They should be plentiful and relatively easy to find. Plus they're affordable. Get the finest nib you can and I would suggest picking up Pelikan Edelstein ink, which is what most people say is the driest ink, so hopefully you get fast drying times. I really like the Kaweco Classic Sport and Lamy Safari.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Mon, 12 January 2015, 17:17:23
I picked up a pack of Varsitys a week or so ago. I have been using them a lot, not really sure if I like how bold the line is though .. I really prefer thin lines


(do note there are no numbers, this is tomorrow's list)
(http://i.imgur.com/D0z7SDP.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 12 January 2015, 19:20:53
I picked up a pack of Varsitys a week or so ago. I have been using them a lot, not really sure if I like how bold the line is though .. I really prefer thin lines


(do note there are no numbers, this is tomorrow's list)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/D0z7SDP.jpg?1)


Arnold.............

(http://148bcec7bb334341cd98-2fb779bd12ec72d4612275342f2c9187.r31.cf1.rackcdn.com/81757146f11e1f4e6d155a4168d1c5e1.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 January 2015, 21:34:51
I picked up a pack of Varsitys a week or so ago. I have been using them a lot, not really sure if I like how bold the line is though .. I really prefer thin lines


(do note there are no numbers, this is tomorrow's list)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/D0z7SDP.jpg?1)


Arnold.............

Show Image
(http://148bcec7bb334341cd98-2fb779bd12ec72d4612275342f2c9187.r31.cf1.rackcdn.com/81757146f11e1f4e6d155a4168d1c5e1.gif)


Secrets Revealed... (http://s1.postimage.org/15vny68ck/157.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 13 January 2015, 03:33:52
Hey! If you're in Germany, I highly suggest looking into picking up a Lamy or Kaweco. They should be plentiful and relatively easy to find. Plus they're affordable. Get the finest nib you can and I would suggest picking up Pelikan Edelstein ink, which is what most people say is the driest ink, so hopefully you get fast drying times. I really like the Kaweco Classic Sport and Lamy Safari.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'm looking into Kaweco, never heard about it. Seems like a very affordable one for me, it's around 21$ and looks quite good. Maybe I'll find a more compelling design (I love the form factor of the Pilot Metropolitan, with round edges and all around roundyness  :rolleyes: ).
Unfortunately I don't like Lamys that much, don't really like the form, the look of it and I think they have no converter and I need to use catridges more.
Do you know if the Kaweco has a converter so that I can use bottled ink?

How do I know what is a fine nib? Do you have a guide or something for this? Otherwise I would look into gouletpens YouTube videos and hope he explains it there.


Is it possible to put some links onto the first post with explanations, how to get into fountain pens and stuff like that? I really like the GouletPens YouTube Videos as he explains stuff really well and gives good recommendations on what to buy, although it is based mainly for US people (he recommends the Pilot Metropolitan plenty of times as a starter pen, but it's not available here in Germany or I haven't found any german shop to buy one).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 January 2015, 06:06:54
Thanks for the recommendation, I'm looking into Kaweco, never heard about it. Seems like a very affordable one for me, it's around 21$ and looks quite good. Maybe I'll find a more compelling design (I love the form factor of the Pilot Metropolitan, with round edges and all around roundyness  :rolleyes: ).

Unfortunately I don't like Lamys that much, don't really like the form, the look of it and I think they have no converter and I need to use catridges more.
Do you know if the Kaweco has a converter so that I can use bottled ink?

How do I know what is a fine nib? Do you have a guide or something for this? Otherwise I would look into gouletpens YouTube videos and hope he explains it there.


Is it possible to put some links onto the first post with explanations, how to get into fountain pens and stuff like that? I really like the GouletPens YouTube Videos as he explains stuff really well and gives good recommendations on what to buy, although it is based mainly for US people (he recommends the Pilot Metropolitan plenty of times as a starter pen, but it's not available here in Germany or I haven't found any german shop to buy one).

Both Kaweco and Lamy have converters so you can use bottle ink. Most of the time you'd have to buy the Lamy converter separate but some places will give the converter to you with the purchase. I think the Kawecos come with a converter but I'm not 100% sure. When you buy the pen online or in store, you will be informed if they're included or not.

The nib will literally say what size it is on the nib and you'll know when you buy it. Whenever you buy a pen, there is always the option of picking the nib size. For example, if I go to GouletPens.com, I can pick a Fine (F) or Medium (M) nib width when I buy a Metropolitan.  If you don't know what the line width looks like, just look it up on Google/Fountain Pen Network or go to the Nib Nook on GouletPens (http://www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook).

I suppose I could add information to the OP but I'm far from a good resource. I simply started this thread to share my love of fountain pens. There are many other forums and places to find this kind of information which would be more helpful than this thread. That being said, I can hunt down some of the threads I found helpful and add them. Unfortunately, I am in the USA so my recommendations and knowledge will be USA-based. I obviously wouldn't know where to get pens in Germany because I don't live there. I know Kaweco and Lamy are German companies which is why I suggested them. I would also go with a Pilot Metropolitan if you could get a hold of it.

If you liked the GouletPens videos, I also highly suggest SBREBrown's Youtube videos. Fountain Pen Network and FPGeeks are two dedicated fountain pen forums with lots of information. FPN feels more like Geekhack and FPG feels a lot like Deskthority. But both have lots of information on fountain pens. Much of my fountain pen research is done on those forums. I believe that those forums are much better information than this thread.

Also if you're trying to buy a Metropolitan in Europe, try buying from Cult Pens. (http://www.cultpens.com/) They're based out of the UK.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:44:59
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I suppose I could add information to the OP but I'm far from a good resource. I simply started this thread to share my love of fountain pens. There are many other forums and places to find this kind of information which would be more helpful than this thread. That being said, I can hunt down some of the threads I found helpful and add them. Unfortunately, I am in the USA so my recommendations and knowledge will be USA-based. I obviously wouldn't know where to get pens in Germany because I don't live there. I know Kaweco and Lamy are German companies which is why I suggested them. I would also go with a Pilot Metropolitan if you could get a hold of it.
Either way some information is good, albeit it's USA-based. I guess if someone like me is asking where to find online-shops with low shipping costs can either use some of the US shops or look into Fountain Pen Network or FPGeeks forums. This'll help me I bet! I found some german shops, but unfortunately my browser broke down and at work he isn't saving the tabs or making some kind of backup. But there are some, although the range is limited to what you can get.
So a Metropolitan it is then :) I kinda stuck with it, read and watched a lot about this pen and it seems to be the best pen to get started overall.

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The nib will literally say what size it is on the nib and you'll know when you buy it. Whenever you buy a pen, there is always the option of picking the nib size. For example, if I go to GouletPens.com, I can pick a Fine (F) or Medium (M) nib width when I buy a Metropolitan.  If you don't know what the line width looks like, just look it up on Google/Fountain Pen Network or go to the Nib Nook on GouletPens.
Thank you for the information, I'll make sure to check for the converters and stuff. As for the nib, I think the Fine will do fine (huehue) as I've seen it on YouTube videos, this is thin enough for me and with your recommendation of bottled ink, it should work fine. Do I need to look for special nibs because I'm holding the pen in the other hand and the ink flows differntly out of the nib? But I guess I'll have to look either n Fountain Pen Network or the Nib Nook. Unfortunately I only can see this when I'm at home.

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If you liked the GouletPens videos, I also highly suggest SBREBrown's Youtube videos. Fountain Pen Network and FPGeeks are two dedicated fountain pen forums with lots of information. FPN feels more like Geekhack and FPG feels a lot like Deskthority. But both have lots of information on fountain pens. Much of my fountain pen research is done on those forums. I believe that those forums are much better information than this thread.
Alright, Fountain Pen Network it is then :D
Yeah I've seen some SBREBrown Videos, but somehow I got stuck with the Goulet videos. Both seem very dedicated and can give information very interesting to you.

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Also if you're trying to buy a Metropolitan in Europe, try buying from Cult Pens. They're based out of the UK.
I'll look into this, they have a 10% off right now, so it makes it more affordable. In general UK shops tend to be more expensive regarding the exchange rates between Sterling and Euro. Thank you for that hint!

I've finally talked with my parents. As it seems my memory was waaaaaaay off, they bought those pens in some shop after they graduated. But they don't remember what the name was and how much they cost, they only knew that it was rather cheap than expensive. But I think I can forget to hunt them down for nostalgic reasons, as one said they probably were Waterman copies and that's it. Maybe someday I'll get a Waterman fountain pen that resembles the look of it.

edit: I don't know why, but somehow I thought you had recommended a bottled ink  :confused:

And I bet you are a very good source for fountain pens for beginners!  :rolleyes: :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 January 2015, 07:52:55
Do I need to look for special nibs because I'm holding the pen in the other hand and the ink flows differntly out of the nib? But I guess I'll have to look either n Fountain Pen Network or the Nib Nook. Unfortunately I only can see this when I'm at home.

I've heard a lot that being lefthanded really changes how your writing experience with fountain pens will be. I think you've got the right idea starting with a Pilot Fine and drier ink. If you find that you're still smearing ink, perhaps try finding an extra-fine nib. Other than that, I'm not 100% sure. That's another thing you'll have to look into yourself.

The thing with fountain pens is that I feel that it's *much* more personal than mechanical keyboards. How I write and what I like will be completely different from your experience, even with a Metropolitan. Handwriting styles and techniques are so unique to each person it's hard to comment in general about something. I find that with pens, I really can't make a decision other than if I like the aesthetics until I try writing with it myself. For example, I like really thick lines and broad nibs because it forces me to slow down my writing speed and gets me to actually practice my handwriting. If I go thinner, I scribble and smear everything.

If the Pound to Euro exchange doesn't help you, SBREBrown seems to like Fontoplumo? They're based out of the Netherlands. I wasn't thinking about that issue :(.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:20:27
Lefties for the most part need a nib similar to what came on the old Waterman #7 Yellows...............ball type.

For whatever reason these seem to work the best from what I have heard for left handers versus more of the exotic grinds.

Whatever awkward angle you hold it at will work :thumb:

I just bring it up because that was one one of the intents of the yellow nib- purposed specially for lefties.

A regular fine or medium with a decent chunk of iridium should do the trick?

(http://www.peytonstreet.com/pens/waterman/w7_rr_yellow_2.jpg)

(http://www.vintageflex.net/images/2013/Waterman/7-Yellow/Shadow/5.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:47:36
Lefty here.  I decided to take a crack at some drier ink.  I ordered some Noodler's stuff which is supposed to have a rather quick dry time.  I'd be happy to post a review of the hand smearing once it comes in.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:55:37
Lefty here.  I decided to take a crack at some drier ink.  I ordered some Noodler's stuff which is supposed to have a rather quick dry time.  I'd be happy to post a review of the hand smearing once it comes in.

That would be great! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts :).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 13 January 2015, 11:23:44
Ditto ink reviews are awesome.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 13 January 2015, 13:14:16
never knew such a beast existed.............gotta gear up for the next one :eek:

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 14 January 2015, 09:01:59
I've heard a lot that being lefthanded really changes how your writing experience with fountain pens will be. I think you've got the right idea starting with a Pilot Fine and drier ink. If you find that you're still smearing ink, perhaps try finding an extra-fine nib. Other than that, I'm not 100% sure. That's another thing you'll have to look into yourself.

Yes this I'll look into. But I hope that the Fine nib and dryer ink will do the trick for me.

The thing with fountain pens is that I feel that it's *much* more personal than mechanical keyboards. How I write and what I like will be completely different from your experience, even with a Metropolitan. Handwriting styles and techniques are so unique to each person it's hard to comment in general about something. I find that with pens, I really can't make a decision other than if I like the aesthetics until I try writing with it myself. For example, I like really thick lines and broad nibs because it forces me to slow down my writing speed and gets me to actually practice my handwriting. If I go thinner, I scribble and smear everything.

I think so, too. Although mechs are still very very personal, especially if you can build them for yourself. In some point I want to try this out (for mechs). Nontheless you are right Sir. Still they will be a common ground for certain things that everybody can get behind, like the system used in a pen or what materials were used and stuff like that. Personal preference always present while buying shoes, cells and stuff like that :)

If the Pound to Euro exchange doesn't help you, SBREBrown seems to like Fontoplumo? They're based out of the Netherlands. I wasn't thinking about that issue :(.

Nevermind that ;) Fontoplumo seems very good and has good shipping cost, around 3€. Unfortunately no Pilot, but I could choose from Kaweco and Lamy. I'll see if I can get a shop that's decent in costs and has the Pilot available. I'll it, if I finde one. If someone's interested.

Lefties for the most part need a nib similar to what came on the old Waterman #7 Yellows...............ball type.
I'll keep that in mind. Could be good if I can put the nib in other pens as well. :) Research research :D

I just bring it up because that was one one of the intents of the yellow nib- purposed specially for lefties.

A regular fine or medium with a decent chunk of iridium should do the trick?
Could you elaborate on that more? Not familiar what the iridium would do here  :confused:

Lefty here.  I decided to take a crack at some drier ink.  I ordered some Noodler's stuff which is supposed to have a rather quick dry time.  I'd be happy to post a review of the hand smearing once it comes in.

Yeah please do one! I am very interested in this! :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 14 January 2015, 11:32:05
see if this helps.............

(http://www.jetpens.com/images/a/000/043/43567.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 January 2015, 11:33:32
I just bring it up because that was one one of the intents of the yellow nib- purposed specially for lefties.

A regular fine or medium with a decent chunk of iridium should do the trick?
Could you elaborate on that more? Not familiar what the iridium would do here  :confused:

see if this helps.............

Show Image
(http://www.jetpens.com/images/a/000/043/43567.jpg)


I think what you're missing is that you mentioned iridium and you didn't say it was a nib tipping material. I think what terrpn is trying to say is that as long as the pen you get has a good nib you should be fine. For example, I've had really good success with Pilot and Lamy nibs right out of the box. Other nibs, such as Noodler's, might need some extra work in order to write optimally.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:21:14
Yes, I got it now! Thanks for the patience and help!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 14 January 2015, 14:28:29
I just bring it up because that was one one of the intents of the yellow nib- purposed specially for lefties.

A regular fine or medium with a decent chunk of iridium should do the trick?
Could you elaborate on that more? Not familiar what the iridium would do here  :confused:

see if this helps.............

Show Image
(http://www.jetpens.com/images/a/000/043/43567.jpg)


I think what you're missing is that you mentioned iridium and you didn't say it was a nib tipping material. I think what terrpn is trying to say is that as long as the pen you get has a good nib you should be fine. For example, I've had really good success with Pilot and Lamy nibs right out of the box. Other nibs, such as Noodler's, might need some extra work in order to write optimally.

exactly.............
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 January 2015, 19:37:21
Reloaded some pens before Philly.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/14/ac7e3a0bb4ece7220008cb759e9f15d7.jpg)

My lower case k practice is starting to look ok. I'm really stoked on how this looks.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/14/db8cc84dcf29c44316e9b69579e86894.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:05:46
When the pen doesn't work you might just have to make it work,

(http://i.imgur.com/EHomIHx.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:02:14
Sorry about the late reply, been staying away from GH lately to avoid tempting myself on spending on more keyboard stuff!

Wow the venerable Nakaya pens. Are they really nice to write with? How much did you pay for them? Last of all, out of the entire bunch, which is your favorite writing pen?

It's all hand-lacquered so it's very soft and warm in the hand. Very pleasing to hold, and has an almost supple quality to the texture. And of course it's very pretty, in an elegant and understated manner.
The Nakayas are really all about the body, as the nibs are the same as Platinum's (completely interchangeable with each other). So if you would like to have an idea of how a Nakaya would write, get a Platinum 3776. Same nib, same-ish body, but for a fraction of the price. However, Nakayas do have a tendency to have a wider choice of nibs. Platinum also has "soft" nibs, the nicer ones being chosen to be used in Nakayas, but don't count on them flexing - they're just kinda springy at best.
I personally don't own one yet, but you can expect to pay around 500 USD + S&H and such for the most basic Nakaya (a black Piccolo). Typical models are somewhere from 600~800 USD, while the fancy ones cost upwards of 1000 USD.
Of the bunch, I think I enjoyed the Long Piccolo the most. The cursive italic grind I did turned out really well, and the pen is a good size. Somewhat oversize in length, but standard thickness for a pen. Sadly, I had to give it back to its owner. It will be missed! I have other pens that I very much enjoy using though, my most recent being this Omas Ogiva in the Autunno celluloid:

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3943/15437395559_40b0f88b14_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pw9FSp)
Omas Ogiva Autunno (https://flic.kr/p/pw9FSp) by @Zeroblade (https://www.flickr.com/people/11748565@N08/), on Flickr

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Oh I almost forgot! I bought a Pentel Metropolitan medium nib and it branches like crazy with their ink. I'm going to get a fine nib soon, but are there any inks that are thick or that doesn't go super fuzzy around the edges?

Pelikan (both 4001 and Edelstein series), Mont Blanc, and Lamy are all fairly dry-writing inks, but I highly suggest getting nicer paper instead. It vastly improves the writing experience, and allows the qualities of the ink to shine through better, especially with shading and sheen, like here:

(http://i.imgur.com/YtfQKhx.jpg)
(sailor tokiwa matsu)

Or perhaps you could use an extra-fine nib, such as a Pilot Metropolitan with a fine nib, but inks will still probably feather on those.

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I also took a little time to check out the Mont Blanc Boutique, Cartier, Hermes, and Louis Vuitton in NYC to see what fountain pens they had to offer. Here's some pictures of my favorite. The Hermes Nautilus. Oh and some pictures of one of the Hermes exclusive inks.

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(http://i.imgur.com/Ja9cJNQ.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/QXcP0nG.jpg?1)

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(http://i.imgur.com/bWAL0LB.jpg)


The announcement of the LV pen really amused us in the local fountain pen group since it was basically nothing but a glorified Pilot Vanishing Point. Even the cartridges and everything are the same LOL. But hey, I suppose if people have money to burn, no one's stopping then from spending it the way they want to. I have to admit, it is kind of pretty, at least.

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- I'm a left-hander (so I guess I need a fine nib and some ink that can dry up quicker so that I don't wipe it along the paper with my hand)
- I searched a bit and it seems a Pilot Metropolitan Fine Nib would be good and not too expensive.
- I dont want to go over 50€. If it is to be below that and I still can get a good pen, I'd go for that instead as I want to minimize my investment if the fountain pens are not meant to be for me besides the one I had in my childhood (Unfortunately I'm kinda picky regarding certain things).
- As I'm residing in Germany I'd like to minimize shipping cost as much as possible. I found some fountain pens via eBay but the shipping cost were sometimes almost the smae what the pen would cost.


Sorry if I'm kind of repeating stuff already mentioned in the earlier posts; writing too much stuff that I've already lost track of what's been said here.

The Pilot Metropolitan pretty much hits the nail on the head for what you need. If you prefer to buy things locally, then Germany should have a good selection of models as it is: as mentioned, the Lamy Safari is one of the most commonly recommended pens around, but it costs around twice as much as the Metropolitan does.

German pens also have a tendency of writing wet and wide, while Japanese pens are one size down from Western pens (Japanese Medium = Western Fine, etc.), and also have a more modest ink flow. Both Kaweco and Lamy pens use cartridge/converter systems, and I highly recommend you use a converter since it costs much less to buy ink by the bottle. Then just carry around cartridges just in case.

If you're willing to spend some more (around maybe 70 to 80 EUR) then there is also the Pelikan M200, which is quite durable, and has good ink capacity. It only fills from a bottle however. It doesn't bother typical fountain pen enthusiasts, but it may be a consideration for you. Also around this price level are the Lamy 2000, Pilot Vanishing Point and Custom 74, the Platinum 3776, and the Sailor 1911M, all of which are leftie-friendly thin writers, except for the Lamy 2000. All of these pens are what most consider gateway pens to "nice pens", since they are all very reliable, write well, and have good value, hovering around the 100~150 USD range.

[] I also wanted to know if the fountain pens are very sensible if I travel with them in my bag? Do I need to take care of them or is it alright to put them in a case and put the case into my bag?
I think that many of us here carry our pens in a pen case or pen wrap; this is what mine is like right now:

(http://i.imgur.com/sDQkCVg.jpg)

Fountain pens are kind of like nice keyboards, fancy writing instruments, so I think you should treat them as such.
Other people use harder, leather pen cases (I carry one alongside the pen case when I want to bring more pens), others use pen wraps that have pockets for each individual pen, etc. There are lots of cases and wraps out there that can probably suit your tastes and needs.

The engravings looked a little bit like this (http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/MabieTodd/Pics/MabieToddEyedropper08.jpg) I found while browsing the net.

A lot of filigree pens back in the 1900s to 1940s were made by Waterman and Wahl, so those are the most likely brands. There were a lot of one-offs and bespoke makes though, so it's hard to say definitively unless we had the specimen on hand. A shame it was thrown out as there are tens, if not hundreds of people who can repair and restore pens (currently learning how to myself).

Hope that covers everything for now, I guess!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 20 January 2015, 00:09:32
I'm getting ready to dump a ton of pictures in this thread.  :thumb:

Thanks for the nice detailed post Zeroblade.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:13:55
I'm getting ready to dump a ton of pictures in this thread.  :thumb:

Thanks for the nice detailed post Zeroblade.

Will they be of pens that don't always write? :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:15:03
Will they be of pens that don't always write? :P

I fixed them *after* you left :(.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:26:01
Will they be of pens that don't always write? :P

I fixed them *after* you left :(.

Yeah it's a damn shame too.  Maybe Skuloth wouldn't be so salty if he could feel them in their inky glory!

So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 20 January 2015, 14:08:24
Again, no hot chick photos......
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 20 January 2015, 14:10:15
Will they be of pens that don't always write? :P

I fixed them *after* you left :(.

Yeah it's a damn shame too.  Maybe Skuloth wouldn't be so salty if he could feel them in their inky glory!

So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

This is absolutely amazing.
I so want to go to a pen show just to write all freaking day and ogle at all of the pens I would likely destroy by accident... Yeah I shouldn't go to pen shows... Those cases had hundreds of pens worth more than my most expensive keyboards.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Noko on Tue, 20 January 2015, 17:47:37
So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

Wow :eek:
That was a lot bigger that I figured it would be.  Looks like you guys had fun :)

So I have a pen question.. do they run out fast?  I forgot until now but I ended up missing your little contest Binge cause I went to write with my pen and it was totally out of ink when I maybe wrote 5-7 pages with it.  Or do they dry out easily?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 20 January 2015, 17:50:56
So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

Wow :eek:
That was a lot bigger that I figured it would be.  Looks like you guys had fun :)

So I have a pen question.. do they run out fast?  I forgot until now but I ended up missing your little contest Binge cause I went to write with my pen and it was totally out of ink when I maybe wrote 5-7 pages with it.  Or do they dry out easily?

I think 5-7 pages seems fair for an average pen.
Although it all depends on the nib size and how wet it is. Larger or wetter nibs obviously let out more ink.
If you want, you can do an eyedropper mod which essentially removes the converter inside and uses all of the space inside to store ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Noko on Tue, 20 January 2015, 17:56:36
So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

Wow :eek:
That was a lot bigger that I figured it would be.  Looks like you guys had fun :)

So I have a pen question.. do they run out fast?  I forgot until now but I ended up missing your little contest Binge cause I went to write with my pen and it was totally out of ink when I maybe wrote 5-7 pages with it.  Or do they dry out easily?

I think 5-7 pages seems fair for an average pen.
Although it all depends on the nib size and how wet it is. Larger or wetter nibs obviously let out more ink.
If you want, you can do an eyedropper mod which essentially removes the converter inside and uses all of the space inside to store ink.

Ah cool, so now I need to get some ink.  I see how people end up able to try so many :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:31:57
So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

Wow :eek:
That was a lot bigger that I figured it would be.  Looks like you guys had fun :)

So I have a pen question.. do they run out fast?  I forgot until now but I ended up missing your little contest Binge cause I went to write with my pen and it was totally out of ink when I maybe wrote 5-7 pages with it.  Or do they dry out easily?

I think 5-7 pages seems fair for an average pen.
Although it all depends on the nib size and how wet it is. Larger or wetter nibs obviously let out more ink.
If you want, you can do an eyedropper mod which essentially removes the converter inside and uses all of the space inside to store ink.

Ah cool, so now I need to get some ink.  I see how people end up able to try so many :)

A bottle of ink will last a decently long time.  Most pens hold between .5 and 1mL of ink, and the average bottle of ink has between 50 and 90 mL of ink.

CPT and I wrote with so many inks over the weekend.  Let us know what colors you like :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:22:29
So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

Wow :eek:
That was a lot bigger that I figured it would be.  Looks like you guys had fun :)

So I have a pen question.. do they run out fast?  I forgot until now but I ended up missing your little contest Binge cause I went to write with my pen and it was totally out of ink when I maybe wrote 5-7 pages with it.  Or do they dry out easily?

I think 5-7 pages seems fair for an average pen.
Although it all depends on the nib size and how wet it is. Larger or wetter nibs obviously let out more ink.
If you want, you can do an eyedropper mod which essentially removes the converter inside and uses all of the space inside to store ink.

Ah cool, so now I need to get some ink.  I see how people end up able to try so many :)

Not sure if they do it for Canada but goulet pen has an "ink drop" service where they monthly send u five diff samples, great way to try out inks also.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Noko on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:53:01
So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

Wow :eek:
That was a lot bigger that I figured it would be.  Looks like you guys had fun :)

So I have a pen question.. do they run out fast?  I forgot until now but I ended up missing your little contest Binge cause I went to write with my pen and it was totally out of ink when I maybe wrote 5-7 pages with it.  Or do they dry out easily?

I think 5-7 pages seems fair for an average pen.
Although it all depends on the nib size and how wet it is. Larger or wetter nibs obviously let out more ink.
If you want, you can do an eyedropper mod which essentially removes the converter inside and uses all of the space inside to store ink.

Ah cool, so now I need to get some ink.  I see how people end up able to try so many :)

A bottle of ink will last a decently long time.  Most pens hold between .5 and 1mL of ink, and the average bottle of ink has between 50 and 90 mL of ink.

CPT and I wrote with so many inks over the weekend.  Let us know what colors you like :)

Hah, you know, purple ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 23:19:16
Will they be of pens that don't always write? :P

I fixed them *after* you left :(.

Yeah it's a damn shame too.  Maybe Skuloth wouldn't be so salty if he could feel them in their inky glory!

So... Pen show album is up! http://imgur.com/a/ESdqa

Nice album.
I appreciate a good writing utensil and have much respect for those with great penmanship. Unfortunately I lack both.
One day while lurking I got out a pen and some paper and started writing and about a quarter way down the page just stopped and was like, "oh my god." Between this thread and one of my co-workers I'm finding inspiration to better my handwriting.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Wed, 21 January 2015, 03:17:12
Wow :eek:
That was a lot bigger that I figured it would be.  Looks like you guys had fun :)

So I have a pen question.. do they run out fast?  I forgot until now but I ended up missing your little contest Binge cause I went to write with my pen and it was totally out of ink when I maybe wrote 5-7 pages with it.  Or do they dry out easily?
I've never been to a pen show yet, but in our monthly pen meets here, I regularly get to handle pens that are easily worth 2 or 3 custom keyboards each.  Good times.
As for how long pens last, depends entirely on the pen, on the ink, and on the paper (mostly the pen). For a typical cartridge/converter with a fine nib and average wetness,  I get around 6 pages. But then I have a Custom 823 with an extra fine that lasted me a month, and then a vintage ringtop with a flex nib that lasted me all of half a page... So it depends on a lot of factors, but 5-7 pages is about right.
This is why I carry at least 3-4 pens on my person, since I'm never really sure if my pens still have ink, unless they're demonstrator/clear pens LOL.

Ah cool, so now I need to get some ink.  I see how people end up able to try so many :)

There's hundreds of inks out there, and always more to discover! Goulet's ink drop subscription is pretty great, and I know some people who were subscribed to it all the way here in the Philippines (not sure if they still are), but you might as well try!

(http://i.imgur.com/Dvj2k4y.jpg)

Or just get more ink than you would probably use in your entire life.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 21 January 2015, 14:55:55
- I'm a left-hander (so I guess I need a fine nib and some ink that can dry up quicker so that I don't wipe it along the paper with my hand)
- I searched a bit and it seems a Pilot Metropolitan Fine Nib would be good and not too expensive.
- I dont want to go over 50€. If it is to be below that and I still can get a good pen, I'd go for that instead as I want to minimize my investment if the fountain pens are not meant to be for me besides the one I had in my childhood (Unfortunately I'm kinda picky regarding certain things).
- As I'm residing in Germany I'd like to minimize shipping cost as much as possible. I found some fountain pens via eBay but the shipping cost were sometimes almost the smae what the pen would cost.

Sorry if I'm kind of repeating stuff already mentioned in the earlier posts; writing too much stuff that I've already lost track of what's been said here.

The Pilot Metropolitan pretty much hits the nail on the head for what you need. If you prefer to buy things locally, then Germany should have a good selection of models as it is: as mentioned, the Lamy Safari is one of the most commonly recommended pens around, but it costs around twice as much as the Metropolitan does.

German pens also have a tendency of writing wet and wide, while Japanese pens are one size down from Western pens (Japanese Medium = Western Fine, etc.), and also have a more modest ink flow. Both Kaweco and Lamy pens use cartridge/converter systems, and I highly recommend you use a converter since it costs much less to buy ink by the bottle. Then just carry around cartridges just in case.

If you're willing to spend some more (around maybe 70 to 80 EUR) then there is also the Pelikan M200, which is quite durable, and has good ink capacity. It only fills from a bottle however. It doesn't bother typical fountain pen enthusiasts, but it may be a consideration for you. Also around this price level are the Lamy 2000, Pilot Vanishing Point and Custom 74, the Platinum 3776, and the Sailor 1911M, all of which are leftie-friendly thin writers, except for the Lamy 2000. All of these pens are what most consider gateway pens to "nice pens", since they are all very reliable, write well, and have good value, hovering around the 100~150 USD range.

Please, I am more than willing to get more info and get to know the pen sphere better via inhaling all of the experience you guys have ;) So thank you for that message, much much appreciato!
Currently I'm kind of hunting the Pilot Metropolitan, I found some Pilot pens but they were these kinds where you use than once and throw them away. Although they are good (watched Goulet vid) for what they cost, I want something that'll last longer.
Unfortunately all the other brands like Lamy are either much more expensive (in the shops I found locally, I've looked around in the big city) or not available. It doesn't matter if it's a general store or a specific pen shop. Pilot is nowhere to be found around here though. As you suggest I want to try out rather the Pilot Metropolitan than a Lamy or Kaweco. Although Kaweco is also a rarity around here =/

I've looked into your suggested pens and gave a thought, although unfortunately I wouldn't buy them just yet. I can't handle the money to buy these right now:
The Pelikan M200, why is it not considered amongst pen enthusiasts? Looks pretty nice and "strong"/durable as you described it. I found one around 57€ in black with a fine nib, which should fit my needs.
The Pilot Vanishing Point is too much for me. I could only find something around 100€, this is too much of an investment right now. My wallet couldn't handle it  :rolleyes:
The Pilot Custom 74 is very nice, how do the kids say nowadays? I dig the nib :D Sounds kinda cool if you stretch the i in dig and nib. Just 10€ above the Pelikan M200 I found, seems good to me. But still don't understand why the M200 is not so popular as the two pens kinda look a like with form factor and style.
The Platinum 3776 looks very nice! I like it in Bourgogne (Burgundy) although it's around 77€ as of right now. And I love the heart-shaped hole in the nib, love those kind of small details.
The Sailor 1911M I found on ebay for around 47€ (but it is the 1911 as I've rechecked it), which seems is a very very good price, isn't it?  Looks good also, but kind of like the Custom and PLatinum 3776 more.

Is ebay a valid option to buy pens or is it more likely to get a fake? I've seen the "Xiaomi Piston v2" on there but most of them are fakes for almost the same price as the originals.

Very good selection I believe, very good looking, seem very handy with the weight, not all but many suffer from hand-cramps while writing. I would want to buy one of those so much grr. I'll consider them if I cannot find a Pilot Metropolitan here. As of right now I can get one Metropolitan at around 35€ which is near to the M200 and Sailor 1911 I found. But I'll keep searching and waiting for the next paycheck, maybe I'll switch to a little more expensive pen and take one of your suggestions. I'm sorry, I'm a very outhinking person and I'm doing it also in the forums it seems. I'm sorry.

[] I also wanted to know if the fountain pens are very sensible if I travel with them in my bag? Do I need to take care of them or is it alright to put them in a case and put the case into my bag?
I think that many of us here carry our pens in a pen case or pen wrap; this is what mine is like right now:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sDQkCVg.jpg)


Fountain pens are kind of like nice keyboards, fancy writing instruments, so I think you should treat them as such.
Other people use harder, leather pen cases (I carry one alongside the pen case when I want to bring more pens), others use pen wraps that have pockets for each individual pen, etc. There are lots of cases and wraps out there that can probably suit your tastes and needs.
Than it'll be a hard case I guess, as a leather pouch is not very reliable to protect a pen if "thrown" into a backpack and carry it around. I'll make sure to pick a good one though. A pen wrap is more like to give a showcase and show them in a nice way. I agree with you that they a almost like keyboards. If we could we would put the mechs somewhere nice to look upon them and gaze off into thoughts.

The engravings looked a little bit like this (http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/MabieTodd/Pics/MabieToddEyedropper08.jpg) I found while browsing the net.

A lot of filigree pens back in the 1900s to 1940s were made by Waterman and Wahl, so those are the most likely brands. There were a lot of one-offs and bespoke makes though, so it's hard to say definitively unless we had the specimen on hand. A shame it was thrown out as there are tens, if not hundreds of people who can repair and restore pens (currently learning how to myself).

Hope that covers everything for now, I guess!

Yeah if my taste in fountain pens is regained and my first pen serves me well, I'm thinking to look for some Waterman pens after I graduate and get this as a graduation gift for me. Would be nice!


I'm sorry for my digressing here and there. I'm just as fascinated as you guys are and somehow this is the way I show appreciation, hopefully it was not that bad or annoying.
Have a good night!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 January 2015, 15:10:30
The Pelikan M200, why is it not considered amongst pen enthusiasts? Looks pretty nice and "strong"/durable as you described it. I found one around 57€ in black with a fine nib, which should fit my needs.

The Pilot Vanishing Point is too much for me. I could only find something around 100€, this is too much of an investment right now. My wallet couldn't handle it  :rolleyes:

The Pilot Custom 74 is very nice, how do the kids say nowadays? I dig the nib :D Sounds kinda cool if you stretch the i in dig and nib. Just 10€ above the Pelikan M200 I found, seems good to me. But still don't understand why the M200 is not so popular as the two pens kinda look a like with form factor and style.


Is ebay a valid option to buy pens or is it more likely to get a fake? I've seen the "Xiaomi Piston v2" on there but most of them are fakes for almost the same price as the originals.

Pelikan M200 is highly regarded at least by me. I have three. I absolutely love Pelikans. It's just they don't have a strong, lower priced pen like the Metropolitan.

The Vanishing Point and 74 are wonderful. I have both and love them.

There are fake pens so be careful on eBay. That being said, I've heard Chinese pens aren't bad.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 21 January 2015, 18:40:47
The Pelikan M200, why is it not considered amongst pen enthusiasts? Looks pretty nice and "strong"/durable as you described it. I found one around 57� in black with a fine nib, which should fit my needs.

The Pilot Vanishing Point is too much for me. I could only find something around 100�, this is too much of an investment right now. My wallet couldn't handle it  :rolleyes:

The Pilot Custom 74 is very nice, how do the kids say nowadays? I dig the nib :D Sounds kinda cool if you stretch the i in dig and nib. Just 10� above the Pelikan M200 I found, seems good to me. But still don't understand why the M200 is not so popular as the two pens kinda look a like with form factor and style.


Is ebay a valid option to buy pens or is it more likely to get a fake? I've seen the "Xiaomi Piston v2" on there but most of them are fakes for almost the same price as the originals.

Pelikan M200 is highly regarded at least by me. I have three. I absolutely love Pelikans. It's just they don't have a strong, lower priced pen like the Metropolitan.

The Vanishing Point and 74 are wonderful. I have both and love them.

There are fake pens so be careful on eBay. That being said, I've heard Chinese pens aren't bad.

+1 I agree wholeheartedly with CPT, and even though we have wildly different tastes in style we both know what writes well and can agree that there are amazing pens for under $100.  When you start to spend more than that much you're really paying for more than simple use.  That's when it really becomes a cost of luxury.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 21 January 2015, 19:54:49
Pelikan fountain pens have came down nicely in the past years with the 200 and below series with the steel nibs. The nibs as most know can be screwed in/out where the options are pretty much unlimited (14k plus as well)

I see Massdrop is doing one of their drops on the Pelikan 400/405

(http://www.nibs.com/www/WEBSITE%20PICS/Pelikan%20website%20pics/pelikan-m405-blue-stripe-uncapped.jpg)

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pelikan-souveran-m400?mode=guest_open&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=poll%20launched%20pelikan%20souveran%20-%202015-01-21%2013%3A28%20-%201%2F1%20-%20100%25&utm_campaign=Transactional%3A%20poll%20launched%20pelikan%20souveran
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 21 January 2015, 21:41:26
Lefty here.  I decided to take a crack at some drier ink.  I ordered some Noodler's stuff which is supposed to have a rather quick dry time.  I'd be happy to post a review of the hand smearing once it comes in.

That would be great! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts :).

I got the pen and ink that I ordered in today.  As promised, here is the review of the ink.

(http://i.imgur.com/kSBCW28.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e73d6d2.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 22 January 2015, 10:44:12
My friend asked me to write "LOL" the most beautifully I could.
This is what I came up with:
(http://i.imgur.com/icCheme.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:42:04
Lefty here.  I decided to take a crack at some drier ink.  I ordered some Noodler's stuff which is supposed to have a rather quick dry time.  I'd be happy to post a review of the hand smearing once it comes in.

That would be great! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts :).

I got the pen and ink that I ordered in today.  As promised, here is the review of the ink.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kSBCW28.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/e73d6d2.jpg)




First thing I noticed when I got my first pens is that Leuchttern(sp?) paper was terrible.

That Ahab is AWESOME.  I love GOOOOOOLD. :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 13:01:16
Lefty here.  I decided to take a crack at some drier ink.  I ordered some Noodler's stuff which is supposed to have a rather quick dry time.  I'd be happy to post a review of the hand smearing once it comes in.

That would be great! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts :).

I got the pen and ink that I ordered in today.  As promised, here is the review of the ink.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kSBCW28.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/e73d6d2.jpg)


Great review! Thanks for sharing. I've had some issues with the Leuchtturm paper quality control so I'm not surprised in general that there was that much bleedthrough. I wonder what paper would be good for left-handed writers. I don't think my preferred paper, Rhodia, would be good because it takes time for ink to dry on it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Thu, 22 January 2015, 13:24:52
Lefty here.  I decided to take a crack at some drier ink.  I ordered some Noodler's stuff which is supposed to have a rather quick dry time.  I'd be happy to post a review of the hand smearing once it comes in.

That would be great! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts :).

I got the pen and ink that I ordered in today.  As promised, here is the review of the ink.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kSBCW28.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/e73d6d2.jpg)


Great review! Thanks for sharing. I've had some issues with the Leuchtturm paper quality control so I'm not surprised in general that there was that much bleedthrough. I wonder what paper would be good for left-handed writers. I don't think my preferred paper, Rhodia, would be good because it takes time for ink to dry on it.

Yeah, I am yet to find the perfect paper that isn't just glorified inkjet fodder.  I have been super happy with my Leuchtturms though.  I have 2 filled up, 1 in progress, and 2 spares ready to rock.  I like the little things that make my thoughts more organized like page numbers, date blocks, bound pages (perforated pages are not admissible as evidence, especially for patent concerns), spine stickers for archival, and so on.  It isn't my regular lab notebook, but I keep research notes in them meaning that having permanent access to the exact copies is essential.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Thu, 22 January 2015, 14:33:53
Currently I'm kind of hunting the Pilot Metropolitan, I found some Pilot pens but they were these kinds where you use than once and throw them away. Although they are good (watched Goulet vid) for what they cost, I want something that'll last longer.
Unfortunately all the other brands like Lamy are either much more expensive (in the shops I found locally, I've looked around in the big city) or not available. It doesn't matter if it's a general store or a specific pen shop. Pilot is nowhere to be found around here though. As you suggest I want to try out rather the Pilot Metropolitan than a Lamy or Kaweco. Although Kaweco is also a rarity around here =/

I've looked into your suggested pens and gave a thought, although unfortunately I wouldn't buy them just yet. I can't handle the money to buy these right now:
The Pelikan M200, why is it not considered amongst pen enthusiasts? Looks pretty nice and "strong"/durable as you described it. I found one around 57€ in black with a fine nib, which should fit my needs.
The Pilot Vanishing Point is too much for me. I could only find something around 100€, this is too much of an investment right now. My wallet couldn't handle it  :rolleyes:
The Pilot Custom 74 is very nice, how do the kids say nowadays? I dig the nib :D Sounds kinda cool if you stretch the i in dig and nib. Just 10€ above the Pelikan M200 I found, seems good to me. But still don't understand why the M200 is not so popular as the two pens kinda look a like with form factor and style.
The Platinum 3776 looks very nice! I like it in Bourgogne (Burgundy) although it's around 77€ as of right now. And I love the heart-shaped hole in the nib, love those kind of small details.
The Sailor 1911M I found on ebay for around 47€ (but it is the 1911 as I've rechecked it), which seems is a very very good price, isn't it?  Looks good also, but kind of like the Custom and PLatinum 3776 more.

Is ebay a valid option to buy pens or is it more likely to get a fake? I've seen the "Xiaomi Piston v2" on there but most of them are fakes for almost the same price as the originals.

Very good selection I believe, very good looking, seem very handy with the weight, not all but many suffer from hand-cramps while writing. I would want to buy one of those so much grr. I'll consider them if I cannot find a Pilot Metropolitan here. As of right now I can get one Metropolitan at around 35€ which is near to the M200 and Sailor 1911 I found. But I'll keep searching and waiting for the next paycheck, maybe I'll switch to a little more expensive pen and take one of your suggestions. I'm sorry, I'm a very outhinking person and I'm doing it also in the forums it seems. I'm sorry.

I believe the disposable fountain pen you're referring to is the Pilot Varsity. It actually is possible to refill it by taking it apart and using a syringe to fill it with ink again. (just look for guides via Google)
Re: The Pelikan M200 - Sorry for the confusion What I meant to say is that most fountain pen enthusiasts do not mind the M200 being a piston filler (no cartridges), but some people may prefer the cartridges as a backup in case they run out of ink.
The Sailor, Platinum, and Pilot are all quite similar, actually. So it comes down to more of the details. As for the Sailor, I mentioned the 1911M, which is just the smaller version of the 1911 (full size). Both are good.
The Vanishing Point can be rather pricey, but the retractable mechanism is very convenient for one-handed operation. Although, the ink capacity is just terrible.

Ebay can be a viable place to buy pens, and there aren't too many fakes of the pens that aren't obviously famous like Mont Blanc. Furthermore, some Chinese pens are actually quite good writers -- there are Jinhaos you can get for less than 10 USD that can write just as well as a Pilot. However, because these pens usually have very poor quality control, there is also a chance that you can get a very bad writer. It's kind of like Russian Roulette.

No need to apologize for thinking out loud -- we all tend to do that sometimes, I'm sure.
If it were up to me, I would suggest saving up for the M200 (or something similar), as you will be getting a much nicer pen (especially with ink capacity). However, that doesn't mean that the Metropolitan doesn't write as well, of course. If you are looking for a thinner-writing pen, I would much rather recommend the Metropolitan over the M200.

Than it'll be a hard case I guess, as a leather pouch is not very reliable to protect a pen if "thrown" into a backpack and carry it around. I'll make sure to pick a good one though. A pen wrap is more like to give a showcase and show them in a nice way. I agree with you that they a almost like keyboards. If we could we would put the mechs somewhere nice to look upon them and gaze off into thoughts.

As long as the pen stays in place (doesn't clatter around and hit other pens), it should be fine.
Also, make sure that the pen stays upright whenever possible, as throwing it around, keeping it upside down, etc. may cause the ink to leak out.
Unlike ballpoint pens, where you are applying an oil-based ink to paper by force, a fountain pen is really just a controlled leak. When you write, you simply let the ink inside the pen leak onto the paper at just the right amount, and when you are not writing, you make sure that the ink doesn't leak when you don't want it to.

Yeah if my taste in fountain pens is regained and my first pen serves me well, I'm thinking to look for some Waterman pens after I graduate and get this as a graduation gift for me. Would be nice!

I'm sorry for my digressing here and there. I'm just as fascinated as you guys are and somehow this is the way I show appreciation, hopefully it was not that bad or annoying.
Have a good night!

Watermans nowadays are a little boring for me (just my opinion of course), and the best value for money really comes  from Japanese pens.
You may have seen pictures of various pens from TWSBI, a Taiwanese manufacturer. They are most famous for their TWSBI Diamond 530/540/580, which is like the Pelikan M800, but at a much more affordable price of around 55 USD. Of course, the materials, nib, etc. are not as nice, but you may want to look into it as well.
What's most important is that you enjoy the hobby/descent into madness :>


~~ pictures of a pen to break up the wall of text ~~

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7497/16145934649_b378997819_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qAL8RB)
Wahl-Eversharp Doric (https://flic.kr/p/qAL8RB) by @Zeroblade (https://www.flickr.com/people/11748565@N08/), on Flickr

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7495/15709693434_71b806300d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pWdhxm)
Wahl-Eversharp Doric (https://flic.kr/p/pWdhxm) by @Zeroblade (https://www.flickr.com/people/11748565@N08/), on Flickr

~~ end pictures ~~

Pelikan fountain pens have came down nicely in the past years with the 200 and below series with the steel nibs. The nibs as most know can be screwed in/out where the options are pretty much unlimited (14k plus as well)

I see Massdrop is doing one of their drops on the Pelikan 400/405

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pelikan-souveran-m400?mode=guest_open&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=poll%20launched%20pelikan%20souveran%20-%202015-01-21%2013%3A28%20-%201%2F1%20-%20100%25&utm_campaign=Transactional%3A%20poll%20launched%20pelikan%20souveran

I have one of these, the M405 in Stresseman Blue. Fantastic pen, and very well-finished. It's pretty much the same as an M200, although instead of plastic, it uses smoother, shinier (and more fragile) resin for the body, and comes with a 14k nib, rather than steel.
Although I've kind of outgrown its size nowadays, since I've gotten rather used to MB 149-sized oversize pens...

Great review! Thanks for sharing. I've had some issues with the Leuchtturm paper quality control so I'm not surprised in general that there was that much bleedthrough. I wonder what paper would be good for left-handed writers. I don't think my preferred paper, Rhodia, would be good because it takes time for ink to dry on it.

Clairefontaine and Rhodia (which uses Clairefontaine anyway) are both somewhat coated so inks do tend to dry a bit slower than usual. Although the Leuchtturm papers are somewhat more absorbent than I like, they should fit your needs fine since you need the ink to dry quickly (or in this case, the paper absorbs the ink quicker).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:30:55
There is a calligraphy paper that Gourmet Pens was talking about which would be great for lefties.  It absorbs ink well due to a lack of coating and it's just burly burly paper THICK stuff. :)

http://www.gourmetpens.com/2014/09/review-sn2-paper-for-smooth-sharp-nibs.html#.VMF58Ueop8H (http://www.gourmetpens.com/2014/09/review-sn2-paper-for-smooth-sharp-nibs.html#.VMF58Ueop8H)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:32:44
Im new to this thread but I just wanted to make sure that you guys knew about this http://www.williamhenry.com/writing-intstruments.html
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:39:31
Im new to this thread but I just wanted to make sure that you guys knew about this http://www.williamhenry.com/writing-intstruments.html

I much prefer http://www.fountainpenstudios.com/ if I'm going to get into that avenue of pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:04:08
There is a calligraphy paper that Gourmet Pens was talking about which would be great for lefties.  It absorbs ink well due to a lack of coating and it's just burly burly paper THICK stuff. :)

http://www.gourmetpens.com/2014/09/review-sn2-paper-for-smooth-sharp-nibs.html#.VMF58Ueop8H (http://www.gourmetpens.com/2014/09/review-sn2-paper-for-smooth-sharp-nibs.html#.VMF58Ueop8H)

I looked it up and got worried.  Handmade paper? I can't afford that! I found a price list HERE (https://penventory.wordpress.com/2014/10/05/fast-foxes-finish-first-sn2-paper/) that makes it seem much more reasonable than I had expected.  I might have to keep this in mind if I want to try out a "wetter" ink.

That wording bothers me by the way.  If an ink is "wetter", that should mean that it wets the substrate better, increasing absorption and only serving to have annoying levels of bleed-through.  Damn kids these days not knowing what wet really means.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:09:00
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/22/ebd6d7453a829dbdc9ad3c663f53b3ad.jpg)

Saw some upper case Fs on Instagram and I'm stealing them for myself. Trying out some new Fs here.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:01:36
Do any of you have tips on how to improve my handwriting? It is pretty atrocious and I would like to improve.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:07:30
Do any of you have tips on how to improve my handwriting? It is pretty atrocious and I would like to improve.

1) Find examples of handwriting you like. I grew up learning Palmer and then spent some time as a draftsman. I have decent cursive and ok print. There are many examples online and even practice sheets. Some places I've found writing samples from are the standard google search, blogs such as OatsDIY (http://oatsdiy.livejournal.com/) or GourmetPens, and forums such as Fountain Pen Network.
2) Practice
3) Practice
4) Practice

For myself, I practice my Palmer cursive handwriting almost nightly by writing out the NATO phonetic alphabet. I've slowly been stealing letters that I see from other people as you've seen in my previous post. My upper case H, I, K, and A have all been altered because I didn't like how they looked.

(http://i.imgur.com/OpflOde.jpg)

Oh and remember to practice ;).

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 22 January 2015, 22:25:44
I do whatever the hell I want for capital letters.
A lot of them still look terrible though and plain.

Letters that need work: E, T, F, J, Z, X, C, G, H, K, M, N, P, R, U, V

Pretty much everything still needs work.  :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Thu, 22 January 2015, 22:47:57
Do any of you have tips on how to improve my handwriting? It is pretty atrocious and I would like to improve.

as much as tp annoys me, he had a real good post on here that got deleted for stupid reasons. but basically, get a ball point (i think that's what it was) and practice. no need to get a fountain pen if your writing is crappy to begin with. practice on cheap ball points then move up to "better" pens.

since i dont really need a pen for work, i hardly ever write. so sometimes i write out replies for threads on a piece of paper then just retype them. just to practice my writing.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 23 January 2015, 04:02:43
The Pelikan M200, why is it not considered amongst pen enthusiasts?
it is pretty much considered. a very good pen. just note that all german pens have relatively broad nibs, so if you want to buy a pelikan, aim yourself to an EF nib.

as much as tp annoys me, he had a real good post on here that got deleted for stupid reasons. but basically, get a ball point (i think that's what it was) and practice. no need to get a fountain pen if your writing is crappy to begin with. practice on cheap ball points then move up to "better" pens.
my advice is exactly the opposite.

1. get yourself a fountain pen. preferably the one with the triangular grip section, like lamy safari or omas 360.
2. practice the proper triangular grip. it's a very important foundation for a good handwriting.
3. practice the proper writing position for a fountain pen. remember that a fountain pen's angle is lower than a ballpoint's when writing and its nib must be in a certain position for the ink to flow well. also remember to never write with pressure with a fountain pen unless it has a flexible nib.
4. choose the preferred handwriting style and practice, practice, practice.

for a simple reference, see this (http://www.jetpens.com/blog/how-to-write-with-a-fountain-pen/pt/271).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 23 January 2015, 09:17:57
The Pelikan M200, why is it not considered amongst pen enthusiasts?
it is pretty much considered. a very good pen. just note that all german pens have relatively broad nibs, so if you want to buy a pelikan, aim yourself to an EF nib.

as much as tp annoys me, he had a real good post on here that got deleted for stupid reasons. but basically, get a ball point (i think that's what it was) and practice. no need to get a fountain pen if your writing is crappy to begin with. practice on cheap ball points then move up to "better" pens.
my advice is exactly the opposite.

1. get yourself a fountain pen. preferably the one with the triangular grip section, like lamy safari or omas 360.
2. practice the proper triangular grip. it's a very important foundation for a good handwriting.
3. practice the proper writing position for a fountain pen. remember that a fountain pen's angle is lower than a ballpoint's when writing and its nib must be in a certain position for the ink to flow well. also remember to never write with pressure with a fountain pen unless it has a flexible nib.
4. choose the preferred handwriting style and practice, practice, practice.

for a simple reference, see this (http://www.jetpens.com/blog/how-to-write-with-a-fountain-pen/pt/271).

^ this.

My wife's grip will make you think twice about giving her a nice pen.  It's harmless but it looks awkward and gives her hand pain to write for long periods of time.  She learned on ballpoints and hard pencils.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 23 January 2015, 09:26:32
Triangle Grip is not essential..  In fact, you don't need to hold a pen in any particular way..


The only issue you need to watch out for is OVER-CONTROL..  which is what Binge seems to be describing in his Wife..

Over-Control.. is not allowing for any deviation from strict letter form by using a very tense hand..

^^^ this is not wrong, but it's not sustainable for long writing.. which isn't actually a problem in the modern day.. sign a check, what 3-10 times a week..


The important thing is to ONLY use the force necessary..  Much like in the speed compendium.

USE FORCE..  but do not HOLD... [the HOLDING is what causes all the tensing]

The difference here is that with handwriting, you don't need maximum force because that will not accelerate your writing vs typing..



Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 January 2015, 15:18:28
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/2e67b616b3ed4f7c942b5dc8e25ad2ad.jpg)

Last night's handwriting practice with a new style F. Gotta work on it some more.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 23 January 2015, 16:02:09
Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/2e67b616b3ed4f7c942b5dc8e25ad2ad.jpg)


Last night's handwriting practice with a new style F. Gotta work on it some more.

The cross bar in the middle makes it look like a T to me. Probably only because it extends on both sides.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 January 2015, 16:03:54
Yeah it's definitely not ideal yet but we're working on it. It's supposed to be a simplified version of the really cool flourish-y F's I saw but I'm not sure I like it yet.

Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/22/ebd6d7453a829dbdc9ad3c663f53b3ad.jpg)


Saw some upper case Fs on Instagram and I'm stealing them for myself. Trying out some new Fs here.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 23 January 2015, 17:52:31
Lots of discussions here!

I'm still fairly new to the pen world (although I've been in it for just a bit less than keyboards)

Got myself the Stormy Gray ink yesterday and it's fantastic in my newbie opinion.

Writing with the sailor 1911 custom ground and the stormy gray just feels wonderful. Now to practice my handwriting...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:05:47
I started my plunge into the fp world with a starter Lamy Safari w/ fine point and cartridge converter. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING, but I'm stoked.

Took a night of contemplation for me to get here. I was researching my first BIFL mechanical pencil for about half the night, decided it was the rOtring Rapid Pro, took a nap to "sleep on it" (my gf's advice), woke up and decided I still wanted it, then realized I also want a nice, durable pen to accompany it. It was about 10x easier to figure out what pen I wanted to start off with and took about 20 minutes of research, versus the hours I spent reading up on mech pencilz
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:19:29
i feel like im the only one that does not like the safari. so damn awkward to use.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:25:18
i feel like im the only one that does not like the safari. so damn awkward to use.

is it bc it's made of abs and not pbt your favorite kind of plastic
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:26:51
nah. i cant do tri grip. i dont find it comfortable at all.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:28:09
nah. i cant fo tri grip. i dont find it comfortable at all.

i'll let u choose my next fountain pen if i ever decide to take that next step.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:43:24
i feel like im the only one that does not like the safari. so damn awkward to use.

Oblique nibs on LAMY pens are the only reason I've ever wanted to use one (CPT).  Otherwise the section is not my cup of tea.  You aren't alone.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:48:47
i feel like im the only one that does not like the safari. so damn awkward to use.

Oblique nibs on LAMY pens are the only reason I've ever wanted to use one (CPT).  Otherwise the section is not my cup of tea.  You aren't alone.

I only like the extra fine Lamy tips. Past that, I'll go with a vanishing point, or my impressa in a medium because I don't like anyone else's fine points.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 23 January 2015, 19:52:51
nah. i cant fo tri grip. i dont find it comfortable at all.

i'll let u choose my next fountain pen if i ever decide to take that next step.

huge fan of twsbi. steeper than safari, but worth the price imo
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 January 2015, 20:43:02
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/593000cd2857731db5f96a50f55adfb6.jpg)

Love that Pelikan. Had it ground by Tim Girdler in Philly into a pillow italic Oblique Nib.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/b99c790ee401c4329ec23d5f902ba7b1.jpg)

/insert goldmember gif
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 23 January 2015, 20:58:35
The most solid pen companies I can recommend people to start with...


No particular order.  Within those companies there is a pen(and nib) for every type of writer.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Fri, 23 January 2015, 21:08:00
The most solid pen companies I can recommend people to start with...

  • TWSBI
  • Pelikan
  • Pilot

No particular order.  Within those companies there is a pen(and nib) for every type of writer.

I ordered a Pilot Metropolitan last night. Started with fine nib because majority of what I write with is .5 and .3
I'll see how I fare with my first pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 23 January 2015, 21:20:35
Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/593000cd2857731db5f96a50f55adfb6.jpg)


Love that Pelikan. Had it ground by Tim Girdler in Philly into a pillow italic Oblique Nib.

Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/b99c790ee401c4329ec23d5f902ba7b1.jpg)


/insert goldmember gif


(http://i.imgur.com/rILzZRI.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zeroblade on Fri, 23 January 2015, 23:04:46
My thoughts regarding the discussion on improving handwriting:

I think that getting a fountain pen will help motivate you to get better. The thought that my terrible hand didn't match the pretty pen was enough to make me want to improve it. It also makes things a lot less tiring.
Grip is not so important. I personally use the traditional triangle grip, but I have a friend who writes with a completely different grip and still comes up with stuff like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9PGGTnfkdY). You can see glances of her grip in the video as well.
What is more important is the writing technique: do not move your fingers and wrist. Simply hold the pen (without grasping it forcefully), and use your entire arm, from the shoulder down, to move the pen around. This is a LOT less tiring, and also allows you to do both fine motions and bold motions very easily. This is /the/ most important aspect for handwriting.
Of course, do hold a fountain pen at the proper angle, anywhere from 30 to 60 degrees. Not too high, not too low.

(http://i.imgur.com/uUKlXQk.jpg)

And of course, practice.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 23 January 2015, 23:25:02
My thoughts regarding the discussion on improving handwriting:

I think that getting a fountain pen will help motivate you to get better. The thought that my terrible hand didn't match the pretty pen was enough to make me want to improve it. It also makes things a lot less tiring.
Grip is not so important. I personally use the traditional triangle grip, but I have a friend who writes with a completely different grip and still comes up with stuff like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9PGGTnfkdY). You can see glances of her grip in the video as well.
What is more important is the writing technique: do not move your fingers and wrist. Simply hold the pen (without grasping it forcefully), and use your entire arm, from the shoulder down, to move the pen around. This is a LOT less tiring, and also allows you to do both fine motions and bold motions very easily. This is /the/ most important aspect for handwriting.
Of course, do hold a fountain pen at the proper angle, anywhere from 30 to 60 degrees. Not too high, not too low.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uUKlXQk.jpg)


And of course, practice.
I practiced writing the Nato alphabet about 6 times, 3 in pen and 3 in lead pencil just so I can adjust to the difference in smoothness, and I noticed that loosening my grip doesn't make any difference in my writing, so now I don't have to death grip, and it looks better than before, but after I work on my print, then will I start on my cursive and what-not, as my cursive looks like spaghetti-o's and spaghetti noodles' love child.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 24 January 2015, 14:23:00
My thoughts regarding the discussion on improving handwriting:

I think that getting a fountain pen will help motivate you to get better. The thought that my terrible hand didn't match the pretty pen was enough to make me want to improve it. It also makes things a lot less tiring.
Grip is not so important. I personally use the traditional triangle grip, but I have a friend who writes with a completely different grip and still comes up with stuff like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9PGGTnfkdY). You can see glances of her grip in the video as well.
What is more important is the writing technique: do not move your fingers and wrist. Simply hold the pen (without grasping it forcefully), and use your entire arm, from the shoulder down, to move the pen around. This is a LOT less tiring, and also allows you to do both fine motions and bold motions very easily. This is /the/ most important aspect for handwriting.
Of course, do hold a fountain pen at the proper angle, anywhere from 30 to 60 degrees. Not too high, not too low.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uUKlXQk.jpg)


And of course, practice.


i enjoy reading your posts zeroblade, very informative and great handwriting by the way :thumb:

i am a little older than most here, but have been collecting fountain pens since i was a kid :eek:

most of mine are vintage, however CptBadAss and Binge have got me hooked on a few modern pens that i really enjoy.

i don't cursive........i only print unfortunately :-\

i used to work with architects, architectural drawings and have never got away from printing for some reason............
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:56:57
From the Philly Show

Thank you CptBadAss and Binge :-*

Oh yea...........written with a Duofold International Broad Oblique Italic


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 25 January 2015, 16:12:40
From the Philly Show

Thank you CptBadAss and Binge :-*

Oh yea...........written with a Duofold International Broad Oblique Italic




That print is to die for :)  Love the line width and shape of the letters.  Oh yeah color is neat too :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brimborion on Sun, 25 January 2015, 23:05:04
I got way too into pens last year. My favorites are probably my Edisons, but I like lots of them in different price ranges, vintage and new.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 25 January 2015, 23:36:26
I got way too into pens last year. My favorites are probably my Edisons, but I like lots of them in different price ranges, vintage and new.

That's awesome.  I wanted to meet the Edison Pen Co. at Philly, but I think life intervened and they were unable to go :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 January 2015, 16:58:07
http://imgur.com/gallery/2zMBx
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 28 January 2015, 17:01:51
http://imgur.com/gallery/2zMBx

I gotta make that jump. Brb, practicing handwriting again lol.

I got way too into pens last year. My favorites are probably my Edisons, but I like lots of them in different price ranges, vintage and new.

Oooo another Edison fan :). I'm currently trying to figure out how I can afford one of their Menlos. Would you be willing to share some pictures? :D

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 January 2015, 18:44:24
Quote
Hi _______.

Thanks for your interest.

There is a possibility of a plunger filler in the future, but I can tell you for sure not this year.

Let me know how else I can help.

Best regards,

Brian Gray
Edison Pen Co, LLC

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brimborion on Wed, 28 January 2015, 20:14:14
http://imgur.com/gallery/2zMBx

I gotta make that jump. Brb, practicing handwriting again lol.

I got way too into pens last year. My favorites are probably my Edisons, but I like lots of them in different price ranges, vintage and new.

Oooo another Edison fan :). I'm currently trying to figure out how I can afford one of their Menlos. Would you be willing to share some pictures? :D

I don't have any Menlos, but here is a Collier and a Hudson.

[attach=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 28 January 2015, 20:39:24
http://imgur.com/gallery/2zMBx

I gotta make that jump. Brb, practicing handwriting again lol.

I got way too into pens last year. My favorites are probably my Edisons, but I like lots of them in different price ranges, vintage and new.

Oooo another Edison fan :). I'm currently trying to figure out how I can afford one of their Menlos. Would you be willing to share some pictures? :D

I don't have any Menlos, but here is a Collier and a Hudson.

[attach=1]

ooohhhhh that tortoise :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 28 January 2015, 20:42:49
I wonder if I should get a Japanese extra fine or an extra extra fine if the Japanese even grind those.
My pen is too inky to use on tests or the cheap paper I use for note taking.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 January 2015, 21:03:28
I wonder if I should get a Japanese extra fine or an extra extra fine if the Japanese even grind those.
My pen is too inky to use on tests or the cheap paper I use for note taking.

if you work with #5-#6 nibs get a twsbi xf nib and some noodler's x-feather
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 28 January 2015, 21:07:22
I wonder if I should get a Japanese extra fine or an extra extra fine if the Japanese even grind those.
My pen is too inky to use on tests or the cheap paper I use for note taking.

if you work with #5-#6 nibs get a twsbi xf nib and some noodler's x-feather

#5 or #6 you say? Hmmmm maybe that's an excuse for me to get that sexy, sexy Edison Majestic Pine.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/YBde2OhIwBe92/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 28 January 2015, 21:44:18
I don't have any Menlos, but here is a Collier and a Hudson.

(Attachment Link)

That transluscent material is lovely.  Which pen is that?




I both love and hate the upper case G. I feel like if its on point and right, it looks so good. And when I **** it up, it looks disgusting. Was playing around with it tonight. Please excuse the railroading.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/28/2454e8e13d14aa364cca8c11e0e8b587.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 28 January 2015, 21:45:19
I don't have any Menlos, but here is a Collier and a Hudson.

(Attachment Link)

That transluscent material is lovely.  Which pen is that?




I both love and hate the upper case G. I feel like if its on point and right, it looks so good. And when I **** it up, it looks disgusting. Was playing around with it tonight. Please excuse the railroading.

I usually like to use a printed G when I have to.
However, if someone asks me to make a cursive G I will and it usually turns out alright.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 28 January 2015, 21:55:57
I wonder if I should get a Japanese extra fine or an extra extra fine if the Japanese even grind those.
My pen is too inky to use on tests or the cheap paper I use for note taking.

i just ordered a Platinum 3776 with UEF nib............

will shoot a writing sample to the thread as soon as i get it
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 28 January 2015, 21:59:18
I wonder if I should get a Japanese extra fine or an extra extra fine if the Japanese even grind those.
My pen is too inky to use on tests or the cheap paper I use for note taking.

i just ordered a Platinum 3776 with UEF nib............

will shoot a writing sample to the thread as soon as i get ir

A Japanese Ultra Extra Fine??!?
Ok I HAVE to see this!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/wvpfOOGzdE9Og/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:02:06
Also, I need a real flex pen instead of the E95S that I have....
I wrecked the thing so freaking much that the nib popped off on two occasions.
Still fully functional, but that can't be good.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:02:12
I wonder if I should get a Japanese extra fine or an extra extra fine if the Japanese even grind those.
My pen is too inky to use on tests or the cheap paper I use for note taking.

i just ordered a Platinum 3776 with UEF nib............

will shoot a writing sample to the thread as soon as i get ir

A Japanese Ultra Extra Fine??!?
Ok I HAVE to see this!
Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/wvpfOOGzdE9Og/giphy.gif)


its probably a hair
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:05:28
I don't have any Menlos, but here is a Collier and a Hudson.

(Attachment Link)

That transluscent material is lovely.  Which pen is that?




I both love and hate the upper case G. I feel like if its on point and right, it looks so good. And when I **** it up, it looks disgusting. Was playing around with it tonight. Please excuse the railroading.

Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/28/2454e8e13d14aa364cca8c11e0e8b587.jpg)



For u bro,

(http://i.imgur.com/rLhxpAF.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:19:18
Ultra extra fine? I got a writing sample right here.

(http://www.zany.co.nz/Images/Assets/2526053/6/Rhodia+A4+Bloc+Pad++Lined+Graph+or+Blank++Orange+or+Black.jpg)

Broad or bust!

For u bro,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rLhxpAF.jpg?1)


They're so consistent! I really need to do G drills....
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:19:50
I don't have any Menlos, but here is a Collier and a Hudson.

(Attachment Link)

That transluscent material is lovely.  Which pen is that?




I both love and hate the upper case G. I feel like if its on point and right, it looks so good. And when I **** it up, it looks disgusting. Was playing around with it tonight. Please excuse the railroading.

Show Image
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/28/2454e8e13d14aa364cca8c11e0e8b587.jpg)



For u bro,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rLhxpAF.jpg?1)


This is the type of G I like writing.

Today I found two packs of paper, Southworth four star. One pack is 20lb correspondence and the other is 9lb fine business. I've had them forever and I guess they would be good to use with a fountain pen. I'll have to give them each a try. I imagine they're going to be better than standard noteboook or printer paper, which is my only other options.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:21:39
I imagine they're going to be better than standard noteboook or printer paper, which is my only other options.

At work we have this 75 lb HP copier/printer paper that is pretty good with fountain pens. 90 lb HP is good too. You don't need to go crazy with Rhodia or Field Notes like I do. In fact, I've got some 90 lb HP and Rhodia paper that I can send you if you would like. PM me if you're interested.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:35:23
I imagine they're going to be better than standard noteboook or printer paper, which is my only other options.

At work we have this 75 lb HP copier/printer paper that is pretty good with fountain pens. 90 lb HP is good too. You don't need to go crazy with Rhodia or Field Notes like I do. In fact, I've got some 90 lb HP and Rhodia paper that I can send you if you would like. PM me if you're interested.

Sounds like I need to put some time into paper knowledge. The correspondence pack I have has the texture of construction paper but is thin like standard printer paper. The business paper feels thin like tracing paper but has a texture like it got wet. I guess that's what it means by cockle finish. Also says onionskin on it. Seems this is actually typewriter paper. Which is cool because I have one to use this with, haha.

Thanks! I'll shoot you a PM.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 28 January 2015, 22:40:21
(http://i.imgur.com/lXuFdIv.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 29 January 2015, 08:43:17
Ultra extra fine? I got a writing sample right here.

Show Image
(http://www.zany.co.nz/Images/Assets/2526053/6/Rhodia+A4+Bloc+Pad++Lined+Graph+or+Blank++Orange+or+Black.jpg)


Broad or bust!

For u bro,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rLhxpAF.jpg?1)


They're so consistent! I really need to do G drills....

you a'int right :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 29 January 2015, 08:45:41
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lXuFdIv.jpg)


Pilot Elite...............nice
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brimborion on Thu, 29 January 2015, 22:07:22
On the Letter G:

[attach=1]

Not that I think my handwriting is great. I have long struggled with my nemesis "G" however.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 29 January 2015, 22:40:05
"I" is a tricky little ****.  I hate the standard cursive version so much.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 29 January 2015, 22:41:03
"I" is a tricky little ****.  I hate the standard cursive version so much.

If you look at mine, it's a squished ampersand.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Fri, 30 January 2015, 02:23:01
I really don't like how a bunch of lowercase alphabits look like in cursive, but this pen is encouraging me to write fully in cursive. I'm at a crossroads. I also decided non-cursive looking G's are the best G's.

LAMY SAFARI FINE NIB w/ PARKER QUINK. I also cleaned out the pen with a decent amount of water and a dash of dish soap because I noticed the pen was scratchy and inconsistent straight out of the box.

Some scribbles. Also decided really early into the page that I'd just write at my normal pace as a baseline and also because I like the organic feel. For the most part, this is how I write normally.

(http://i.imgur.com/HZKZ7vM.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Fri, 30 January 2015, 07:19:14
I don't have any Menlos, but here is a Collier and a Hudson.

(Attachment Link)

That transluscent material is lovely.  Which pen is that?




I both love and hate the upper case G. I feel like if its on point and right, it looks so good. And when I **** it up, it looks disgusting. Was playing around with it tonight. Please excuse the railroading.

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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/28/2454e8e13d14aa364cca8c11e0e8b587.jpg)



For u bro,

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(http://i.imgur.com/rLhxpAF.jpg?1)



TIL that the G we were taught in elementary school is not the only cursive variant
(http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/jix/EjE/jixEjEeET.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 30 January 2015, 07:24:29
On the Letter G:

(Attachment Link)

Not that I think my handwriting is great. I have long struggled with my nemesis "G" however.

Ha that is great! Kinda reminds me of my own struggle with G and F.

I really don't like how a bunch of lowercase alphabits look like in cursive, but this pen is encouraging me to write fully in cursive. I'm at a crossroads. I also decided non-cursive looking G's are the best G's.

LAMY SAFARI FINE NIB w/ PARKER QUINK. I also cleaned out the pen with a decent amount of water and a dash of dish soap because I noticed the pen was scratchy and inconsistent straight out of the box.

Some scribbles. Also decided really early into the page that I'd just write at my normal pace as a baseline and also because I like the organic feel. For the most part, this is how I write normally.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HZKZ7vM.jpg)


Are those S or G at the bottom? Can't tell if it's Seek or Geek.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Fri, 30 January 2015, 07:36:27
BOTH
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Sat, 31 January 2015, 15:00:35
just bought my first fountain pen, been trying to snag a rotring 600 off ebay, but they were just too expensive for me, so I found a levenger clone for $40 new, and it comes in a nice case.

First time ever using a FP, so when it comes in we will see how it is.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brimborion on Sat, 31 January 2015, 15:43:17
just bought my first fountain pen, been trying to snag a rotring 600 off ebay, but they were just too expensive for me, so I found a levenger clone for $40 new, and it comes in a nice case.

First time ever using a FP, so when it comes in we will see how it is.

Nice. Sadly Austin is a tough place to try pens locally. There is a stationery place near Central Market on Lamar that has like, a half dozen, and a few J. Herbin inks, and then there is Paradise Pen Co. at the Barton Creek Mall. The fellow who works there is awesome and also deals in vintage in his off hours, but the selection was such that they had everything but what I wanted, except paper and ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Sat, 31 January 2015, 18:33:56
just bought my first fountain pen, been trying to snag a rotring 600 off ebay, but they were just too expensive for me, so I found a levenger clone for $40 new, and it comes in a nice case.

First time ever using a FP, so when it comes in we will see how it is.

Nice. Sadly Austin is a tough place to try pens locally. There is a stationery place near Central Market on Lamar that has like, a half dozen, and a few J. Herbin inks, and then there is Paradise Pen Co. at the Barton Creek Mall. The fellow who works there is awesome and also deals in vintage in his off hours, but the selection was such that they had everything but what I wanted, except paper and ink.

Thats good to know, I was actually at the mall today, and figured that it was nothing more than a snobby shop with dumb retail people.

I have a few rotring pens and pencils, but never used a fountain pen before. I'll check the stationary place and see what they have, as my FP will come with a cartrige thing and I wanna get some ink. I only really care about the rotring style stuff, everything else isn't for me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 03 February 2015, 13:45:52
someone here wanted to see a sample of how fine a "Platinum UEF" (ultra extra fine) was, so I just dropped in a bunch of nibs (mostly thin) for comparison

in no way shape or form am I trying to glorify my pathetic handwriting. I do not cursive...........probably haven't since college easy- so everything is print

so here you go :eek:

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 04 February 2015, 11:40:49
Hey guys. I've been wanting to get an actual rotring fountain pen, and I really don't want to pay $200 for one.

I found this on ebay, its gold which is cool, but its really beat up.

Cosmetically, its rough, but seller says it does not leak ink and writes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROTRING-600-18-K-GOLD-NIB-FOUNTAIN-PEN-/121558395019?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4d71e88b

I'm okay with the cosmetic issues, but not sure about buying used pens in this condition.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 04 February 2015, 11:48:22
someone here wanted to see a sample of how fine a "Platinum UEF" (ultra extra fine) was, so I just dropped in a bunch of nibs (mostly thin) for comparison

in no way shape or form am I trying to glorify my pathetic handwriting. I do not cursive...........probably haven't since college easy- so everything is print

so here you go :eek:

I like those thin lines.
I might get a Pilot vanishing point with a uef nib just to use for quick notes that can be used with cheap paper.
Hopefully uef nibs wouldn't just cut up the paper instead :))

Although I will have to get the nib ground for me as it doesn't actually come with uef.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Wed, 04 February 2015, 21:50:43
Hey guys. I've been wanting to get an actual rotring fountain pen, and I really don't want to pay $200 for one.

I found this on ebay, its gold which is cool, but its really beat up.

Cosmetically, its rough, but seller says it does not leak ink and writes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROTRING-600-18-K-GOLD-NIB-FOUNTAIN-PEN-/121558395019?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4d71e88b

I'm okay with the cosmetic issues, but not sure about buying used pens in this condition.

You mentioned a few posts up that you haven't used a FP before. I highly recommend against a vintage FP for your first one. And furthermore, the one you posted on eBay, the Rotring FP, is in really rough shape.  I see rust damage too which means water, it might be a bad one. 

Instead, look at getting into a decent entry level FP for your first one, I guarantee your tastes will change over the first few months of using them (and aquiring too many of them).  Vintage will be finicky, modern pens are just more reliable and user-friendly. 

A few good entry level FP's are:


TWSBI Mini
Kaweco Sport
Pilot Metropolitan
Lamy Safari (although the nibs can be hit or miss, some are misaligned from factory causing scratchiness and turning off new users who don't know how to adjust it)
Also if you want a metal body instead, Lamy AL-Star is the aluminum version of the Safari and Kaweco AL Sport is the aluminum Sport.  And Lamy Vista is a clear Safari (demonstrator)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:27:39
Totally agree with those introductory pens Half Shark Alligator. I would suggest the same pens to people. But I'd also add the Pilot Varsity and Platinum Preppy.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Thu, 05 February 2015, 09:37:28
I actually just got my first true FP in the mail the other day.

Since the rotrings are so expensive ( I mostly love their build quality and design ) I picked up a levenger L-tech, and while its not the same as a rotring, its pretty close.

$50 and it came with a fancy box case, a cartridge refiller thingy, and some other little goodies.

It has a screw on cap which is awesome, but the edges are a bit round ( not sharp like rotring ) and its a bit fatter than the rotring.

Right now i'm just using a black cartridge, but I ordered some brown ink of amazon that should be here on friday.
( I Love the old timey look of brown ink )

(http://fpgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Levenger-L-Tech-fountain-pen-FPgeeks-hands-on-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 February 2015, 09:39:31
Writing sample time Jixr!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:15:57
ha, i'm not an artist, just a draftsman by trade. which kinda is how i ended up spending more money than any normal person would on pens.

Started with a nice mechanical pencil that I used in college, and it broke, so I bought a rotring one, loved it, and now have 2 pencils, 4 pens, and this levenger I just added. Pencils were $30 a pop, and the pens were from $25-140 ( i HAD to have one that was new in box for when my current one ever breaks, I love it ) and this levenger.

Ideally I would like to have one of everything from the rotring 600 series. Those things are amazing.

So My writing is basically standard all caps writing.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:17:43
ha, i'm not an artist, just a draftsman by trade. which kinda is how i ended up spending more money than any normal person would on pens.

Started with a nice mechanical pencil that I used in college, and it broke, so I bought a rotring one, loved it, and now have 2 pencils, 3 pens, and this levenger I just added.

So My writing is basically standard all caps writing.

Excuses are worse than not even doing it :p  PEER PRESSURE C'MON MAN
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:40:55


the pen may be mightier than the sword, but my writing is as sharp as a butter knife.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 05 February 2015, 10:51:16
ha, i'm not an artist, just a draftsman by trade. which kinda is how i ended up spending more money than any normal person would on pens.

Started with a nice mechanical pencil that I used in college, and it broke, so I bought a rotring one, loved it, and now have 2 pencils, 4 pens, and this levenger I just added. Pencils were $30 a pop, and the pens were from $25-140 ( i HAD to have one that was new in box for when my current one ever breaks, I love it ) and this levenger.

Ideally I would like to have one of everything from the rotring 600 series. Those things are amazing.

So My writing is basically standard all caps writing.

I too did drafting for a while and found the 600s to be amazing for work. I've got two 600s right now. And my standard writing is all caps. I'd like to get the standard which shows you how your letters are supposed to be so I can improve my print.

Anyways, let's see that lovely drafting print. I'm betting yours looks on point and like a printer. Mine was always sloppy but the older guys on my team had incredible print.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Thu, 05 February 2015, 11:02:50
I can write much better with a pencil than I can this pen. I guess I'm still getting used to it.

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_2502_zpsfb94136b.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_2502_zpsfb94136b.jpg.html)
Levenger FP
Rotring 600 .5mm pencil
Rotring 600 .7mm pencil
Rotring Rapid Pro ( its sucks and I hate it )
And my cherry, the rotring 600 pen, which is amazing.

( not shown, my other 600 pen, and a big fat 600 pen that looks like the levenger )
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_2503_zps707f4809.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_2503_zps707f4809.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 06 February 2015, 06:30:33
Hey guys,
I'm sorry I was ill for some time and lost track of the thread and my pen search. I'm sorry to CPTBadAss as I kept you waiting.

So now I'm kind of back and I tried some fountain pens at a local store. I tried Lamys and Parkers, wrote with medium, italic and fine nibs. Was very fun to write with those and you notice Parker being a very good pen. The essence of my endeavor is that I fear if I get a Pilot Metropolitan "fine" it'll be too fine and scratch the paper while writing. The salesman told me that I need to watch out for that as I tried a extra-fine nib from Parker or Cross (not quite sure anymore) and it kind of scratched while I wrote swung "f"'s. You guys told me that a japanese fine nib is comparable to a european extra fine nib, so I fear it'll scratch like I tried at the store. What do you think guys? I know it all depends on how you write and watching some of Goulet vids on YouTube, it was never mentioned that it scratched whatsoever. But the thinner the nib the more likley it'll scratch right?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 06:35:50
The finer the nib is in general, the scratchier it will feel. Scratchy feel =/= will tear paper. I believe the Pilot Metro one isn't bad but I also don't do anything below Pilot Medium nibs and I'm tending towards broads or stubs now. So I might not be the best person to ask. Since you've already tried XF and you didn't like it, I suggest you stick with a F. Pilot or otherwise.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 06 February 2015, 07:15:16
I thought that the scratchy feeling will break the nib more quickly? I also tend to put more pressure on the pen than necessary.
But as I was consulted by that salesman person, I thought that the Pilot F is an Extra-Fine I tried on a Parker/Cross which I disliked. So is it better to get a Pilot M rather than a Pilot F? This is was I meant, I'm not sure if that came across in my initial post.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 06 February 2015, 07:21:34
I thought that the scratchy feeling will break the nib more quickly? I also tend to put more pressure on the pen than necessary.
But as I was consulted by that salesman person, I thought that the Pilot F is an Extra-Fine I tried on a Parker/Cross which I disliked. So is it better to get a Pilot M rather than a Pilot F? This is was I meant, I'm not sure if that came across in my initial post.

Yeah Japanese nibs are generally ground one degree finer than European nibs.
That means you should either get a European fine nib or medium Japanese nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 07:23:01
I feel like the Japanese vs European nib width thing is a bit overblown and simplified. Look up some writing samples. I find it varies more by company and the Pilot Medium isn't a true fine in my opinion. It is certainly thinner than say a Pelikan Medium but not so much so that I would call it a fine. My Lamy Fine is much much finer than the Pilot Medium. I suggest instead of listening to what people have to say, go to the Nib Nook on Goulet and find the nib width pictures or look up writing samples and decide for yourself what you would like.

I don't know what context you mean by "better". Again, it's up to you what you're looking for in a pen and how you write with it. You did your own research by going to the store so trust what you liked and didn't like. Because in the end you're the one that's writing with it, not me or anyone else. If you didn't like how scratchy it was, maybe you should go back and try a nib size up.

Your nib won't break because it's scratchy. It's just how it feels.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: skcheng on Fri, 06 February 2015, 08:14:28
There's a LOT more to it than size of the nib.   The material of the nib, the thickness.   How it's ground etc...   A well tuned XF can write smooth as butter, whereas a very hard, damaged M nib could be scratchy as hell.   I personally feel that "most" stock nibs on new pens are not nice to write with at all.   Too hard, too stiff, and too similar to a ball point pen.   And then ..... why bother?   But a properly adjusted/tuned nib for flow and writing style can result in writing bliss.   Even though most of our writing these days involves banging on keycaps or thumbing letters on our phones    ;D ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 08:18:55
There's a lot of truth to skcheng's post. I've smoothed a lot of the nibs on the pens I have. I fixed the misaligned tines on my Pelikan M605 as well when I got it. Obviously shouldn't have come like that but it was fun to fix it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 06 February 2015, 09:57:18
There's a lot of truth to skcheng's post. I've smoothed a lot of the nibs on the pens I have. I fixed the misaligned tines on my Pelikan M605 as well when I got it. Obviously shouldn't have come like that but it was fun to fix it.

CPT knows I have a lot of fine/ef nibs and they aren't "scratchy" most of that is either poor penmanship or a cruddy nib.  If you want to learn how to work with a mediocre nib buy a pen that will accept #6 sized nibs, and then purchase a tuning kit and some noodler's flex nibs.  They are mostly the worst right out of the box, but you can make them write nearly as well as the most expensive pens you own.  It really goes to illustrate the value of a good tuning.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 10:34:30
I wouldn't even go that far in terms of learning to work on your own pens. I started smoothing my own nibs with a brown paper lunch bag. You rip off a square, hold the pen like you normally would, then draw figure 8s on the lunch bag with the pen inked up. Every so often, try writing a line on normal paper to see if the nib is as smooth as you want it.

I've now got a special nib smoothing kit that I use but honestly, the brown paper bag trick is pretty easy and effective. Just gotta watch for paper fibers getting stuck in your nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 06 February 2015, 10:57:25
CPT doesn't like diving too deep >.>  Guess we gotta build up his game some more.  This is a fancy chart I ripped off of a neat FB group.  Puts the whole fountain pen thing into perspective.

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/1622456_10152959578676072_293713383205540811_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 06 February 2015, 11:00:32
Ha. I went straight headfirst into my Pilot elite...
I don't need a gateway drug.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:25:04
is there any way you can make a fine tipped pen more fine? It still seems really wide to me, and I really like more hair line type writing since I usually write so small.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:34:42
is there any way you can make a fine tipped pen more fine? It still seems really wide to me, and I really like more hair line type writing since I usually write so small.

You can go up to an extra fine and an ultra extra fine.
Again, Japanese nibs are a tad finer, but apparently not a full degree as was pointed out.
You can also have a nibmeister grind an existing nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:35:53
is there any way you can make a fine tipped pen more fine? It still seems really wide to me, and I really like more hair line type writing since I usually write so small.

Try writing with the pen upside down. I've heard people doing that to get finer lines. I don't think it can go finer unless you retip it but I have seen Ultra extra fine or needlepoint nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: skcheng on Fri, 06 February 2015, 12:53:35
CPT doesn't like diving too deep >.>  Guess we gotta build up his game some more.  This is a fancy chart I ripped off of a neat FB group.  Puts the whole fountain pen thing into perspective.

Show Image
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/1622456_10152959578676072_293713383205540811_o.jpg)




I'm fully entrenched in the "I've Lost My ****" section.   My favorites are completely custom made pens, Montblancs 149s, and Nakayas.  I have a Sailor King of Pen as well ..... big beast of a pen!! 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 06 February 2015, 13:07:15
yeah, after doing some research, it seems like its a common thing with this brand, that all the nib labels are a step up in size.

My $40 pen is about to turn into a $75 pen with buying a new nib. :/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 06 February 2015, 13:31:33
CPT doesn't like diving too deep >.>  Guess we gotta build up his game some more.  This is a fancy chart I ripped off of a neat FB group.  Puts the whole fountain pen thing into perspective.

Show Image
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/1622456_10152959578676072_293713383205540811_o.jpg)



I'm fully entrenched in the "I've Lost My ****" section.   My favorites are completely custom made pens, Montblancs 149s, and Nakayas.  I have a Sailor King of Pen as well ..... big beast of a pen!! 


Yeah I've gotten into that category with my Sailor, Onoto, and Visconti pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 16:57:08
The Sheaffer Triumph............conical nibs were made to be written upside down. A medium, fine will write an extra-fine, hairline, etc.

(http://www.vacumania.com/penteech2/sheaffer_snorkel_nib800a.jpg)

I really have not had any problem with my extra fine, etc. nibs ripping into the paper, even my Platinum 377 with UEF is very smooth............

(http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/web/131399929975_3_0_1/500x500.jpg)

I guess I am off the deep end as far as Binge's Chart............, I've lost it all :-\

As far as bang for the buck you cannot go wrong with a Parker 45 with an XF nib on it. Just make sure it comes with a converter. I know they are pretty vanilla, but they can be had for a song with a 14k nib still

(http://vintagefountainpens.co.uk/published/publicdata/ECOMMERCE/attachments/SC/products_pictures/IMG_1999_enl.JPG)

BTW..........it is not that hard to bring a fine down to an extra fine............just watch the corners are somewhat rounded off

(http://www.marcuslink.com/pens/assets/nibs-fig-17.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: brimborion on Fri, 06 February 2015, 18:51:40
The Sheaffer Triumph............conical nibs were made to be written upside down. A medium, fine will write an extra-fine, hairline, etc.

I have a Ranga with one of those nibs that I got from Peyton Street Pens, and it does truly write a nice, clean, fine line.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:00:31
How do you like that hybrid pen from Peyton Street Pens brimborion? I was going to snag one of the Ranga's with the flexible Evershap nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:44:29
Yeah, I ended up just ordering a extra fine nib to replace mine.

I attempted to sharpen it a bit, but didn't notice any difference. Don't want to break it or mess it up though, so i'll see how the new nib does.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 19:53:59
I have a couple of these which write fairly thin, wet and depending on where you check are not very expensive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROTRING-CORE-LYSUM-FOUNTAIN-PEN-FINE-PT-NEW-IN-BOX-22454-MADE-IN-GERMANY-/141563862048?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f5dd1c20

(http://www.pensandleather.com/images/products/detail/22454_CoreLysium_FP_DI.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Sat, 07 February 2015, 21:35:08
Bought these off amazon, basically just to see if I like the Ultra-fine nib. If I do, I plan to pick up a nicer model to carry
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KRXPN5W/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVHPCG21UKS8
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 07 February 2015, 23:53:13
Bought these off amazon, basically just to see if I like the Ultra-fine nib. If I do, I plan to pick up a nicer model to carry
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KRXPN5W/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVHPCG21UKS8

Awesome man.  I saw your PM but I have not had time to respond to much.  Glad you were able to get sorted :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Sun, 08 February 2015, 03:43:41
Show Image
I can write much better with a pencil than I can this pen. I guess I'm still getting used to it.

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_2502_zpsfb94136b.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_2502_zpsfb94136b.jpg.html)

Levenger FP
Rotring 600 .5mm pencil
Rotring 600 .7mm pencil
Rotring Rapid Pro ( its sucks and I hate it )
And my cherry, the rotring 600 pen, which is amazing.

( not shown, my other 600 pen, and a big fat 600 pen that looks like the levenger )
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/clayfinley/IMG_2503_zps707f4809.jpg) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/clayfinley/media/IMG_2503_zps707f4809.jpg.html)


I have the rapid pro, and I really enjoy writing with it! I considered the 600 and 800 before picking it up, but there were crazy mixed reviews for the 800 and the functionaltiy/sturdiness of the rapid pro over the 600 won me over. I'm thinking of getting the Lamy Scribble next just because it looks so fun to write with. Or the Uni Kuru Toga bc I'm curious about how all the tech in the pencil handles. If only there were a sturdier version of the Kuru Toga, that would probably be my dream pencil.

I already have my next nice fp purchase lined up. The Pilot Vanishing Pro has caught my attention, but I'd rather eat more burritos at Chipotle than drop over a hundo for a pen. It may forever quench my desire for more, HOPEFULLY.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 08 February 2015, 12:45:05
Bought these off amazon, basically just to see if I like the Ultra-fine nib. If I do, I plan to pick up a nicer model to carry
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KRXPN5W/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVHPCG21UKS8

looks like a hero?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Sun, 08 February 2015, 16:18:08
Bought these off amazon, basically just to see if I like the Ultra-fine nib. If I do, I plan to pick up a nicer model to carry
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KRXPN5W/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVHPCG21UKS8

looks like a hero?

Title says it's a Hero 9296

With that said, I don't think they come with ink. I have a bottle of Brothers Stamp Ink .. would that be OK to use?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 February 2015, 16:19:07
Bought these off amazon, basically just to see if I like the Ultra-fine nib. If I do, I plan to pick up a nicer model to carry
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KRXPN5W/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVHPCG21UKS8

looks like a hero?

Title says it's a Hero 9296

With that said, I don't think they come with ink. I have a bottle of Brothers Stamp Ink .. would that be OK to use?

What is the ink made of?  If it's not a water/surfactant based ink then most likely not.

No it's not ok to use. :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Sun, 08 February 2015, 16:22:42
:(

I didn't notice until after I ordered that ink may/may not be included

Happen to know where to buy some for cheapish in a box store?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 February 2015, 16:52:01
:(

I didn't notice until after I ordered that ink may/may not be included

Happen to know where to buy some for cheapish in a box store?

Cheapish?  It depends on what brands are available @ staples.  They have a rather expensive ink
:(

I didn't notice until after I ordered that ink may/may not be included

Happen to know where to buy some for cheapish in a box store?

Staples carries, http://www.staples.com/Namiki-Bottled-Ink-from-Pilot-Black-Each/product_935794

It's a simple black ink that behaves well in pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Sun, 08 February 2015, 16:55:25
I'll go up there and check once the pens come in.


My mom wanted one too :P , she likes the Varsitys but has the same complain't about line thickness that I do
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: skcheng on Sun, 08 February 2015, 17:30:46
:(

I didn't notice until after I ordered that ink may/may not be included

Happen to know where to buy some for cheapish in a box store?

Cheapish?  It depends on what brands are available @ staples.  They have a rather expensive ink
:(

I didn't notice until after I ordered that ink may/may not be included

Happen to know where to buy some for cheapish in a box store?

Staples carries, http://www.staples.com/Namiki-Bottled-Ink-from-Pilot-Black-Each/product_935794

It's a simple black ink that behaves well in pens.



Black ink??    Yuck!!!    ;D ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 February 2015, 17:46:57
I'll go up there and check once the pens come in.


My mom wanted one too :P , she likes the Varsitys but has the same complain't about line thickness that I do

Let me know if you need help/want to keep it cheap.  I can do some neat things with nibs :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Mon, 09 February 2015, 07:28:56
just tuned the **** out of my safari's nib with zero tools and the help of youtube. First I smoothed it as much as I could, then I made it wetter. Overall, I'm extremely satisfied with how my fp writes.

I'm aware of how fortunate I am that this experiment did not go awry. Instead of a broken pen, I only ended up with really splotchy fingers. Yay me yay self-praise
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 09 February 2015, 07:33:54
just tuned the **** out of my safari's nib with zero tools and the help of youtube. First I smoothed it as much as I could, then I made it wetter. Overall, I'm extremely satisfied with how my fp writes.

I'm aware of how fortunate I am that this experiment did not go awry. Instead of a broken pen, I only ended up with really splotchy fingers. Yay me yay self-praise


Tuning is part of this hobby.  Have to tune imperfect pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Mon, 09 February 2015, 10:59:35
just tuned the **** out of my safari's nib with zero tools and the help of youtube. First I smoothed it as much as I could, then I made it wetter. Overall, I'm extremely satisfied with how my fp writes.

I'm aware of how fortunate I am that this experiment did not go awry. Instead of a broken pen, I only ended up with really splotchy fingers. Yay me yay self-praise
link to the video?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 11 February 2015, 04:46:16
just tuned the **** out of my safari's nib with zero tools and the help of youtube. First I smoothed it as much as I could, then I made it wetter. Overall, I'm extremely satisfied with how my fp writes.

I'm aware of how fortunate I am that this experiment did not go awry. Instead of a broken pen, I only ended up with really splotchy fingers. Yay me yay self-praise


Tuning is part of this hobby.  Have to tune imperfect pens.

It's ridiculous how a bit of tuning makes such a big difference. I guess ideally, I wouldn't mind if the nib felt amazing out of box, but I'm really down with the tuning aspect.

just tuned the **** out of my safari's nib with zero tools and the help of youtube. First I smoothed it as much as I could, then I made it wetter. Overall, I'm extremely satisfied with how my fp writes.

I'm aware of how fortunate I am that this experiment did not go awry. Instead of a broken pen, I only ended up with really splotchy fingers. Yay me yay self-praise
link to the video?

I used these two:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_bNRrPk5MY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_bNRrPk5MY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig5cTFv4lXo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig5cTFv4lXo)

The smoothing part is around 11:30 in the first video after he whips out the micro mesh. Good luck!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 11 February 2015, 10:38:46
I have a new nib coming in the mail today, and figured I would mess with my old one to see what I could do with it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Wed, 11 February 2015, 12:05:13
For anyone looking for more tuning videos (not that SBRE Brown's aren't great, because they are), Matt from The Pen Habit has been putting up some really great high-quality videos in a new series on pen tuning, modification, repair, etc.  He uses magnification lenses etc as well which really helps to see exactly how to work the nib.

https://www.youtube.com/user/PenHabit/videos  (Adjusting Your Fountain Pen series which have been posted in the last few weeks)

And if are doing this, buy a loupe!  You can buy a serviceable one for like $10 that will give your eyes super-powers. Goulet Pens has one for $7 iirc.  Not that you have to buy one specifically from a pen shop, but it does give you a reason to toss a pen or some ink in your cart too  :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 February 2015, 12:07:50
Or if you're already on GH, maybe you've got some helping hands with the magnifying glass laying around? I use that in lieu of a loupe. I'll probably grab one but just a thought :).

And I really like those Pen Habit videos too HalfSharkAlligator.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 11 February 2015, 13:48:32
Horray! my Extra fine nib came in the mail.

Its a bit scratchy, but i guess that's expected with an EF nib.

Only thing I don't like about it is my brown ink i use looks quite a bit lighter than it did before.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Fri, 13 February 2015, 17:38:26
The Hero 9296 pens came in today ... I am not a fan.

I really like how thin the line is BUT the are super scratchy and do not deliver ink well at all, compared to Pilot Varsity's

I guess Im going to have to try something a little more expensive / better quality
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 February 2015, 17:44:32
The Hero 9296 pens came in today ... I am not a fan.

I really like how thin the line is BUT the are super scratchy and do not deliver ink well at all, compared to Pilot Varsity's

I guess Im going to have to try something a little more expensive / better quality

scratchy nibs have the advantage when it comes to control..

and they're more ideal vs a smooth nib when it comes to penmenship practice..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Fri, 13 February 2015, 17:48:59
maybe, but a pen that doesnt deliver ink evenly is useless

EDIT: if I write a sentence and have to go back and "fill" in letters that are missing sections then that pen is worthless.

I do NOT have this issue with Varsity's

(http://i.imgur.com/ni92Ku9.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 13 February 2015, 17:51:44
maybe, but a pen that doesnt deliver ink evenly is useless

EDIT: if I write a sentence and have to go back and "fill" in letters that are missing sections then that pen is worthless


Don't listen to him.  you may have babies bottom or the pen may not be properly flushed.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 February 2015, 17:54:08
maybe, but a pen that doesnt deliver ink evenly is useless

EDIT: if I write a sentence and have to go back and "fill" in letters that are missing sections then that pen is worthless.

I do NOT have this issue with Varsity's


try loosening the tip by pushing the nib lightly in the direction towards the more open end of the hood

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Fri, 13 February 2015, 17:58:31
Junk pens are junk. They both have the exact same issues.

When i first filled them up they wrote a little, 10 minutes later and they aren't delivering any ink
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Fri, 13 February 2015, 18:11:49
maybe, but a pen that doesnt deliver ink evenly is useless

EDIT: if I write a sentence and have to go back and "fill" in letters that are missing sections then that pen is worthless.

I do NOT have this issue with Varsity's


try loosening the tip by pushing the nib lightly in the direction towards the more open end of the hood

this helped a little bit for better ink flow.

Im still having an issue of it being much more difficult / precise to write though. It's kind of hard to explain, the Varsity's are much easier to write with but the Hero's are difficult. You have to try numerous times to get a line going.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 16 February 2015, 04:04:29
Considering getting a Pilot MR. Worth it?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 February 2015, 05:39:48
Considering getting a Pilot MR. Worth it?
Absolutely. What concerns do you have about it?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 16 February 2015, 06:01:45
Considering getting a Pilot MR. Worth it?
Absolute. What concerns do you have about it?

Whether it's worth the extra money from the other option, a Lamy Safari. IMO the MR looks better, but not sure which will be better to write with.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 February 2015, 06:57:15
Whether it's worth the extra money from the other option, a Lamy Safari. IMO the MR looks better, but not sure which will be better to write with.

If you've got easy access to buying the MR, I'd highly recommend picking that up over a Safari. I like how the nib writes better. I think the MR/Metropolitan look is better than the Safari. It's half the price. And it's made of brass. It's got a little heft to it that feels great. The MR comes with an ink converter *and* ink cartridges.

I think the Metropolitan/MR is the best beginners fountain pen out there right now. And I started on a Safari.

The Varsity and Preppy are OK but I still like the idea of starting off with a Metropolitan or Safari.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: caligo on Mon, 16 February 2015, 07:43:26
(http://i.imgur.com/KGKe97Hl.jpg)

My Kaweco Lilliput I carry with me in my pocket at all times, which is why it's got quite a patina going. The Kaweco AL Sport is what I use for longer writing sessions as it is somewhat more comfortable to hold, being a larger pen and all. The weight is more or less the same though, the Lilliput is made of brass which is quite a bit denser than the aluminium of the AL Sport. Both with extra fine nibs – as you can see my handwriting is quite small. The writing here was done in Kawweco's blue ink, but in general I mostly use J. Herbin ink of various colours.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 February 2015, 07:54:19
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KGKe97Hl.jpg)


My Kaweco Lilliput I carry with me in my pocket at all times, which is why it's got quite a patina going. The Kaweco AL Sport is what I use for longer writing sessions as it is somewhat more comfortable to hold, being a larger pen and all. The weight is more or less the same though, the Lilliput is made of brass which is quite a bit denser than the aluminium of the AL Sport. Both with extra fine nibs � as you can see my handwriting is quite small. The writing here was done in Kawweco's blue ink, but in general I mostly use J. Herbin ink of various colours.

Nice pens! I've been eyeing both of those for a while but for whatever reason, I haven't picked either up.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 16 February 2015, 10:21:07
Whether it's worth the extra money from the other option, a Lamy Safari. IMO the MR looks better, but not sure which will be better to write with.

If you've got easy access to buying the MR, I'd highly recommend picking that up over a Safari. I like how the nib writes better. I think the MR/Metropolitan look is better than the Safari. It's half the price. And it's made of brass. It's got a little heft to it that feels great. The MR comes with an ink converter *and* ink cartridges.

I think the Metropolitan/MR is the best beginners fountain pen out there right now. And I started on a Safari.

The Varsity and Preppy are OK but I still like the idea of starting off with a Metropolitan or Safari.

Looks like that's decided then :) Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: caligo on Mon, 16 February 2015, 17:01:12
Nice pens! I've been eyeing both of those for a while but for whatever reason, I haven't picked either up.

The Lilliput in particular is something I'd recommend to anyone who's into fountain pens. It's basically the fountain pen equivalent of the Fisher Bullet Space Pen - it takes up so little room you can always carry it in your pocket, and it does not really matter if it gets scratched and worn as it adds character more than anything else. There are lots of nice fountain pens, but I don't think that there's anything quite as small and durable.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 17 February 2015, 02:03:50
Nice pens! I've been eyeing both of those for a while but for whatever reason, I haven't picked either up.

The Lilliput in particular is something I'd recommend to anyone who's into fountain pens. It's basically the fountain pen equivalent of the Fisher Bullet Space Pen - it takes up so little room you can always carry it in your pocket, and it does not really matter if it gets scratched and worn as it adds character more than anything else. There are lots of nice fountain pens, but I don't think that there's anything quite as small and durable.
kaweco sport.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: caligo on Tue, 17 February 2015, 04:05:38
Nice pens! I've been eyeing both of those for a while but for whatever reason, I haven't picked either up.

The Lilliput in particular is something I'd recommend to anyone who's into fountain pens. It's basically the fountain pen equivalent of the Fisher Bullet Space Pen - it takes up so little room you can always carry it in your pocket, and it does not really matter if it gets scratched and worn as it adds character more than anything else. There are lots of nice fountain pens, but I don't think that there's anything quite as small and durable.
kaweco sport.

As in 'the Kaweco Sport is as small and durable as the Lilliput'? Well, durability definitly -- at least the AL version, especially the Raw Aluminium finish which will wear in rather nicely and of course the stone washed ones which are pre-worn. But size? It's short when capped, sure, but not as short as the Lilliput. It's also about 30 % thicker than the Lilliput, disgregarding the pocket clip which is removable. There are lots of rather short pens, but not that many really thin ones. Here's a comparison of some different ones. The Sport is only slightly shorter than the (surpisingly quite nice) cheap J. Herbin pen, but while they're both quite a bit shorter than the Lamy Safari they're still as thick as it, while the Lilliput is significantly thinner. Not that you couldn't carry the Sport in your pocket, but it does not really bring out that 'so small I almost forget it's there' feeling (at least not for me).  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/zT5Vo2bl.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 19 February 2015, 06:29:12
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7448/15957254004_e5d6a6ec34_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7321/16393535549_c4942fbf75_b.jpg)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8657/16579404645_3753e927c9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 February 2015, 06:51:25
I love how mod-friendly TWSBIs are. My only regret is that I didn't buy a 580 sooner than I did. Nice pen Larken!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:46:50
Thanks CPTBadass, it's nice to finally chime in after lurking in the thread for a while. (became interested in fountain pens after I got sent a Pilot Metro from massdrop). Since then I've tried the Pilot Metro, Lamy Safari, Noodler's Konrad (there's also the Varsity, which I wasn't a fan of).

I love the TWSBI too, as it really hits a good spot between feature/price. It did take alot of futzing before it became my favorite pen. Misaligned tines, flow issues. Ef being still too thick for my everyday writing. But the piston mechanism and ink capacity was a great draw that made me determined to make it work, which led to ordering a #5 needlepoint from a nibmeister and putting it in the TWSBI; after smoothing it a little, it writes lines similar to that of the pilot hi-tec 0.4, and can be used on the reverse to write hair-thin lines. (which was why I had the extra ef to play around with).

caveat; I often have to write lousy printer paper for work, so thick nibs that lay down loads of ink are pretty much impossible to use. Also, I'm a southpaw, which means anything that lays down a thick, wet line is going to get smudged. The needlepoint is pretty much my only pen I can use on all sorts of paper + write at normal speeds without the paper getting inky dots all over. The Safari is a close second, but I do get slight smudges occasionally, even using reasonably dry inks.

Other random thoughts;

Out of the box, the Safari was probably the best writer; much better than the TWSBI, which was actually problematic.  I did minimal tuning on mine, mostly smoothing and made it finer. (Western EFs are still not fine enough for my preferences). I would've been satisfied with the Safari if not for the crappy convertor/capacity; well, not exactly crappy, but once I got used to how much ink a piston pen holds....

The Konrad was fun, but impossible to use on crappy paper, and the build quality leaves a lot to be desired, but it was a great flex pen modded; much better than the TWSBI flex, which is decent but not amazing). Although, to be fair, the noodler's nib was extremely smooth to write with, the lines that it laid down was pretty similar to the pilot varsity I've tried. (I'd modded the noodler's for extra flex too, but days after I got it perfect, it got ruined after a nib first drop to the ground. /sigh.) I might get another Ahab/Konrad in the future for a nice flex pen, or get a TWSBI VAC700 try to fit a noodler's nib in.

Pilot Metro - my first proper fountain pen. Very smooth writer. the M sized nib and ink flow had the same problems as the Noodler/TWSBI F; ie. ink feathering all over the paper; but in fairness, it worked great on my personal notebooks. I think I would've probably liked the Japanese F (although I think my actual preference would go towards a smoothed EF). The squeeze convertor is a big minus, although I guess it was understandable given the price point. I ended up turning my metro into a stub after an early screw up learning how to grind nibs, but I might try getting a Pilot Penmanship for a nice EF and swap the nib into the metro.

Between the Safari and the Metro, I've pretty much switched to using a separate syringe to fill my pens for less mess.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: neralo on Sun, 22 February 2015, 05:56:50
Thanks rowdy's reply on my introduction thread, I was introduced to this particular thread. I've found a home here. Got my first FP about a year ago, and have been collecting more and more ever since.

(http://i.imgur.com/ApJoNeM.jpg)
These are my current daily writers, minus my Muji FP. Excuse the shoddy handwriting, its tough to keep up with my prof in class.

currently saving up to get my hands on a Sailor KoP, or a Vanishing Point, though that took a little back seat to the keyboard i just bought for myself. Lol. 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tigersharkdude on Sun, 22 February 2015, 06:20:27
Show Image
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7448/15957254004_e5d6a6ec34_b.jpg)


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(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8657/16579404645_3753e927c9_b.jpg)


that's hella nice for only $50

I think i may pick one up

http://www.twsbi.com/products/twsbi-diamond-580-clear-fountain-pen
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 22 February 2015, 21:41:03
The Twsbi(s) are nice, but I think you might still have complaints about the line thickness on an EF from Jowo (I had the same problem). The stock nibs on the TWSBI are usually quite smooth and wet writers, but they often require quite a bit of tweaking to get just right.

In the end I went with a needlepoint for daily writing. Attached a picture for comparisons between the few pens I have.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8561/16618479821_1c0d66d9af_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 05:55:44
The Twsbi(s) are nice, but I think you might still have complaints about the line thickness on an EF from Jowo (I had the same problem). The stock nibs on the TWSBI are usually quite smooth and wet writers, but they often require quite a bit of tweaking to get just right.

In the end I went with a needlepoint for daily writing. Attached a picture for comparisons between the few pens I have.

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8561/16618479821_1c0d66d9af_z.jpg)


I got a 580USA with a Broad nib. Worked fine out of the box and I've inked it with Rouge Hematite. The little gold particles haven't clogged the pen or anything. I really like it :).



Thanks rowdy's reply on my introduction thread, I was introduced to this particular thread. I've found a home here. Got my first FP about a year ago, and have been collecting more and more ever since.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ApJoNeM.jpg)

These are my current daily writers, minus my Muji FP. Excuse the shoddy handwriting, its tough to keep up with my prof in class.

currently saving up to get my hands on a Sailor KoP, or a Vanishing Point, though that took a little back seat to the keyboard i just bought for myself. Lol. 

Aww your photo doesn't work :(. And I think a Vanishing Point is a little easier to save up for :)). KoP are a bit of a stretch. I use my VP daily at work. It's amazing. It looks like a ballpoint so no one bothers me when I use it. I can use it one handed; which I definitely need in a factory. And the nib feels incredible. I pair it with a Field Notes notebook :).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: neralo on Mon, 23 February 2015, 09:57:05
Quote
Aww your photo doesn't work :(. And I think a Vanishing Point is a little easier to save up for :)). KoP are a bit of a stretch. I use my VP daily at work. It's amazing. It looks like a ballpoint so no one bothers me when I use it. I can use it one handed; which I definitely need in a factory. And the nib feels incredible. I pair it with a Field Notes notebook :).

OOPS, i think i deleted the original imgur file by accident. here it is again hahaha

(http://i.imgur.com/XAoJkeP.jpg)

My dad actually goes to Japan nearly weekly on business, so I can actually ask him to help me get a KoP or a VP for cheap (well, cheaper), but I'm really interested in the VP cos I intend to use it as a daily writer. Pity the stormtrooper model is so expensive :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 23 February 2015, 09:59:00
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XAoJkeP.jpg)


My dad actually goes to Japan nearly weekly on business, so I can actually ask him to help me get a KoP or a VP for cheap (well, cheaper), but I'm really interested in the VP cos I intend to use it as a daily writer. Pity the stormtrooper model is so expensive :(

What pen is on the top of the page?

Ugh, I've been eyeing the stormtrooper too! And I wish I had a hookup in Japan. Actually, no I don't. My wallet is happier that way. :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: neralo on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:20:15
Thats a random no brand pen my SO got me from Pike's Peak Market in Seattle. It's made from Cocobolo wood, with an IPG steel F nib. Writes really well, and I got Noodler's Walnut specifically to match with it. haha
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 23 February 2015, 14:45:03
For CI lovers check out Nemosine's variety of #6 nibs.  Couple bits of odd variety.  :thumb:

http://www.nemosine.com/collections/accessories
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:13:15
this sucks, i'm spending tons of money trying to figure out what nib I like best.

Bought an EF nib since I like the thin lines, but it just felt too scratchy, my F nib is okay, but still kinda catches, so now I'm going to try a medium nib. Hopefully that will be smooth enough for me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:15:17
Bought an EF nib since I like the thin lines, but it just felt too scratchy, my F nib is okay, but still kinda catches, so now I'm going to try a medium nib. Hopefully that will be smooth enough for me.

Have you tried smoothing your nibs out at all? If you like the F or EF, you can use a brown paper bag to try smoothing it out.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:25:01
I have attempted it, but I think I've done it too much on my EF. The little ball at the end of the nib is pretty much non existant, and I'm unsure if I should leave it as is, or attempt to see if I can smooth it out some more.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:26:27
Iridium vs a bit of paper. I think Iridium will win. I'd just go slow and see what you can do with it. There's other smoothing materials like micromesh which Anderson Pens and Goulet Pens sells. Just don't use sandpaper. Get something real fine and go slow. Should be fine.

Thats a random no brand pen my SO got me from Pike's Peak Market in Seattle. It's made from Cocobolo wood, with an IPG steel F nib. Writes really well, and I got Noodler's Walnut specifically to match with it. haha

Interesting. I find pens like that are usually weighted poorly. Glad to see you're into it :).

For CI lovers check out Nemosine's variety of #6 nibs.  Couple bits of odd variety.  :thumb:

http://www.nemosine.com/collections/accessories

Huh? Aren't those .6mm and .8 mm stubs? Not the same as a CI?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:29:48
I may or may not have already attempted polishing it using 4000 grit sand paper and soapy water :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 24 February 2015, 10:59:39
Iridium vs a bit of paper. I think Iridium will win. I'd just go slow and see what you can do with it. There's other smoothing materials like micromesh which Anderson Pens and Goulet Pens sells. Just don't use sandpaper. Get something real fine and go slow. Should be fine.

Would the smoother side of a nail buffing block would work?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:55:38
Iridium vs a bit of paper. I think Iridium will win. I'd just go slow and see what you can do with it. There's other smoothing materials like micromesh which Anderson Pens and Goulet Pens sells. Just don't use sandpaper. Get something real fine and go slow. Should be fine.

Would the smoother side of a nail buffing block would work?

Yes. I used that and a brown paper bag for the longest time.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:28:18
am being lazy and have not read all of your posts, but you should not need to spend a lot of money on a fountain pen?

if you want something thin and smooth you cannot get much smoother out of the box than with any Pilot

a Japanese fine will put you somewhere between a western extra-fine and fine and will be smooth

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-FPRN350R-TLG-F-Light-Green-Prera-Fountain-Pen-Point-Type-Fine-/191501649393?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c966345f1

(http://image.rakuten.co.jp/kyotobunguya/cabinet/pilot/fprn-350r-1.jpg?_ex=128x128)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:40:21
Well for me, the design of the pen is super important, which is why my pen body cost $75
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zapheo on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:46:28
I just purchased my first fountain, a Pilot Metropolitan and I love the way it feels! Do you guys have any recommendations for improving your handwriting? My cursive is positively atrocious... (i.e. websites, videos, etc.)

Thanks,

Zap
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:47:21
If you care about smoothness of a nib so much then why don't you get a nibmeister to either tune or make a custom nib?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 24 February 2015, 13:48:53
If you care about smoothness of a nib so much then why don't you get a nibmeister to either tune or make a custom nib?

Agreed. You can always just skip all the steps and go to a custom nib grinder who can make the nib exactly the way you want it. I just like DIY and exploration more than going straight to customized stuff.

I just purchased my first fountain, a Pilot Metropolitan and I love the way it feels! Do you guys have any recommendations for improving your handwriting? My cursive is positively atrocious... (i.e. websites, videos, etc.)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1606461;topicseen#msg1606461
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zapheo on Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:16:15
If you care about smoothness of a nib so much then why don't you get a nibmeister to either tune or make a custom nib?

Agreed. You can always just skip all the steps and go to a custom nib grinder who can make the nib exactly the way you want it. I just like DIY and exploration more than going straight to customized stuff.

I just purchased my first fountain, a Pilot Metropolitan and I love the way it feels! Do you guys have any recommendations for improving your handwriting? My cursive is positively atrocious... (i.e. websites, videos, etc.)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1606461;topicseen#msg1606461

Thanks, that's very helpful.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 24 February 2015, 14:36:17
Iridium vs a bit of paper. I think Iridium will win. I'd just go slow and see what you can do with it. There's other smoothing materials like micromesh which Anderson Pens and Goulet Pens sells. Just don't use sandpaper. Get something real fine and go slow. Should be fine.

Thats a random no brand pen my SO got me from Pike's Peak Market in Seattle. It's made from Cocobolo wood, with an IPG steel F nib. Writes really well, and I got Noodler's Walnut specifically to match with it. haha

Interesting. I find pens like that are usually weighted poorly. Glad to see you're into it :).

For CI lovers check out Nemosine's variety of #6 nibs.  Couple bits of odd variety.  :thumb:

http://www.nemosine.com/collections/accessories

Huh? Aren't those .6mm and .8 mm stubs? Not the same as a CI?

It goes as follows... Italic, Cursive Italic, Stub.  This scale is from least round edges to most rounded edges.  The nemosine company states that these are calligraphy nibs and writing samples seem more CI than stub.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:07:48
we need to set up an ink exchange thing, I want to try some other colors, but it would take me forever to burn through a whole bottle of ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:37:58
we need to set up an ink exchange thing, I want to try some other colors, but it would take me forever to burn through a whole bottle of ink.

as someone who covets his 40+ bottles of ink... NAY
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Wed, 25 February 2015, 18:29:42
got my new nib in today, and while its thicker than I'd like, its really wet and writes smooth. So I guess I'll stick with  this one for a while.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Wed, 25 February 2015, 20:39:50
we need to set up an ink exchange thing, I want to try some other colors, but it would take me forever to burn through a whole bottle of ink.

Ink exchange would be fun, but if you just want to try a variety of inks quickly and easily without buying whole bottles, both Anderson Pens and Goulet Pens sell ink samples in 2-3ml vials for very cheap, under $3. It really lets you try some high-end inks before committing to an expensive bottle (and it's fun :thumb: ).

On my last order, I ordered from literally both of them within a few hours of each other to compare. Here are my observations

Both
Great customer service
Quick confirmation and shipping emails, with tracking
I ordered in the evening and both shipped the next day
Both came on the same day (quickly, I might add, I think 2-3 days)
Both were well packaged and accurate

Anderson Pens
Slightly better value for ink samples, they sell an extra 1 ml in the vial for about the same price
Currently $2.75 for 3 ml (varies, but this seems to most common price), although I believe it was $2.50 when I ordered
Packaging and labeling wasn't quite as nice as Goulet, they used packing peanuts but it seemed like i got the bottom of the barrel as it was mostly little tiny pieces and a lot of dust, it made a bit of mess

Goulet Pens
Slicker packaging and branding / etc.
Bubble wrap
Currently $2.50 for 2 ml
Order confirmation was maybe a few hours earlier

Seriously this is splitting hairs, they were both excellent and i'd order from either of them again without thinking twice. Great to have such good vendors in this market! They are both small family-owned businesses.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: drewba on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:34:35
So, I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to fountain pens. I used to mess around with my mom's fountain pens back when she used to do calligraphy & scrap book stuff but I was like 11.

Does anyone have any input on the Lamy Vista currently on massdrop for $22 shipped (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lamy-vista-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open)? Like most things on MD, it looks like I'll only save a few dollars but the reviews I've read speak highly of the Vista (and Lamy in general). Can you guys point me in the right direction?

1. Would the Vista be a good beginner option? The Pilot Metropolitan seems to be the pen that just about everyone recommends to start with. Should I start at the bottom with a $4 Platinum Preppy? 
2. Are cartridges ok, or should I just go ahead and get a converter now?
3. Fine or medium nib? I plan on using this for signatures & doodling. I'm leaning towards fine.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:36:37
Tip: do not get a writing pen for doodling.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:42:21
So, I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to fountain pens. I used to mess around with my mom's fountain pens back when she used to do calligraphy & scrap book stuff.

Does anyone have any input on the Lamy Vista currently on massdrop for $22 shipped (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lamy-vista-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open)? Like most things on MD, it looks like I'll only save a few dollars but the reviews I've read speak highly of the Vista (and Lamy in general). Can you guys point me in the right direction?

1. Would the Vista be a good beginner option? The Pilot Metropolitan seems to be the pen that just about everyone recommends to start with. Should I start at the bottom with a $4 Platinum Preppy? 
2. Are cartridges ok, or should I just go ahead and get a converter now?
3. Fine or medium nib? I plan on using this for signatures & doodling. I'm leaning towards fine.

1) Vista = demonstrator Safari. I have a Vista and it's great.

Safari = colored ABS
Vista = Demonstrator Safari (don't know the material)
AL-Star = anodized aluminum Safari

Nibs are all the same and the bodies are the same shape. Just diff material. As always I will say that the Metropolitan is just such a good value for a first fountain pen. I prefer the nib to the Lamy Safari/AL-Star/Vista nib. I don't know what you're looking for in a fountain pen other than use case so I will say that Platinum Preppy nibs are too fine for me.

2) I don't like cartridges. They are convenient and clean though.

3) I don't know from personal use since I really just practice cursive and write with my pens. I don't doodle so I can only say that from what I've seen, it appears artistic doodlers like finer nibs. I don't know why Binge doesn't like doodling with fountain pens. I would guess it's because it's very easy to smudge and smear fountain pen ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: drewba on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:42:48
Tip: do not get a writing pen for doodling.
Don't tell me what to do! I'll be using this for handwriting as well :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: drewba on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:48:57
So, I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to fountain pens. I used to mess around with my mom's fountain pens back when she used to do calligraphy & scrap book stuff.

Does anyone have any input on the Lamy Vista currently on massdrop for $22 shipped (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lamy-vista-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open)? Like most things on MD, it looks like I'll only save a few dollars but the reviews I've read speak highly of the Vista (and Lamy in general). Can you guys point me in the right direction?

1. Would the Vista be a good beginner option? The Pilot Metropolitan seems to be the pen that just about everyone recommends to start with. Should I start at the bottom with a $4 Platinum Preppy? 
2. Are cartridges ok, or should I just go ahead and get a converter now?
3. Fine or medium nib? I plan on using this for signatures & doodling. I'm leaning towards fine.

1) Vista = demonstrator Safari. I have a Vista and it's great.

Safari = colored ABS
Vista = Demonstrator Safari (don't know the material)
AL-Star = anodized aluminum Safari

Nibs are all the same and the bodies are the same shape. Just diff material. As always I will say that the Metropolitan is just such a good value for a first fountain pen. I prefer the nib to the Lamy Safari/AL-Star/Vista nib. I don't know what you're looking for in a fountain pen other than use case so I will say that Platinum Preppy nibs are too fine for me.

2) I don't like cartridges. They are convenient and clean though.

3) I don't know from personal use since I really just practice cursive and write with my pens. I don't doodle so I can only say that from what I've seen, it appears artistic doodlers like finer nibs. I don't know why Binge doesn't like doodling with fountain pens. I would guess it's because it's very easy to smudge and smear fountain pen ink.

Thanks CPT, good stuff. I'm assuming there's a fair bit of trial & error when it comes to finding a pen that is right for you. I think I'm going to head to the art shop and see if they have any pens to test out.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:09:08
Thanks CPT, good stuff. I'm assuming there's a fair bit of trial & error when it comes to finding a pen that is right for you. I think I'm going to head to the art shop and see if they have any pens to test out.

I think it's harder to recommend pens than keyboards. Everyone's handwriting style and preferences are so unique to them. I highly encourage you to try them out for yourself.

For example it turns out that I unconsciously roll my pens a little when I write. With a ballpoint or rollerball, this isn't an issue. But with fountain pens, especially with nibs like a 1.9mm stub, if I rotate too much I can't get the pen to write properly. I didn't even notice this until about 6 months ago. Your own handwriting may have quirks and will cause you to like X over Y.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:24:38
So, I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to fountain pens. I used to mess around with my mom's fountain pens back when she used to do calligraphy & scrap book stuff.

Does anyone have any input on the Lamy Vista currently on massdrop for $22 shipped (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lamy-vista-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open)? Like most things on MD, it looks like I'll only save a few dollars but the reviews I've read speak highly of the Vista (and Lamy in general). Can you guys point me in the right direction?

1. Would the Vista be a good beginner option? The Pilot Metropolitan seems to be the pen that just about everyone recommends to start with. Should I start at the bottom with a $4 Platinum Preppy? 
2. Are cartridges ok, or should I just go ahead and get a converter now?
3. Fine or medium nib? I plan on using this for signatures & doodling. I'm leaning towards fine.

1) Vista = demonstrator Safari. I have a Vista and it's great.

Safari = colored ABS
Vista = Demonstrator Safari (don't know the material)
AL-Star = anodized aluminum Safari

Nibs are all the same and the bodies are the same shape. Just diff material. As always I will say that the Metropolitan is just such a good value for a first fountain pen. I prefer the nib to the Lamy Safari/AL-Star/Vista nib. I don't know what you're looking for in a fountain pen other than use case so I will say that Platinum Preppy nibs are too fine for me.

2) I don't like cartridges. They are convenient and clean though.

3) I don't know from personal use since I really just practice cursive and write with my pens. I don't doodle so I can only say that from what I've seen, it appears artistic doodlers like finer nibs. I don't know why Binge doesn't like doodling with fountain pens. I would guess it's because it's very easy to smudge and smear fountain pen ink.

I'm not trying to imply one shouldn't draw with a fountain pen.  Writing pens/nibs generally do worse when it comes to the kinds of lines you make as an artist.  It needs to have pretty heavy flow, light weight, and the ability for subtle line variation to be a decent tool for doodling.  The kind of ink you want should be permanent and dry quickly without giving you the chance to smear/smudge the ink.  Iron gall and Noodler's inks are my preference when doodling.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:50:25
So, I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to fountain pens. I used to mess around with my mom's fountain pens back when she used to do calligraphy & scrap book stuff but I was like 11.

Does anyone have any input on the Lamy Vista currently on massdrop for $22 shipped (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lamy-vista-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open)? Like most things on MD, it looks like I'll only save a few dollars but the reviews I've read speak highly of the Vista (and Lamy in general). Can you guys point me in the right direction?

1. Would the Vista be a good beginner option? The Pilot Metropolitan seems to be the pen that just about everyone recommends to start with. Should I start at the bottom with a $4 Platinum Preppy? 
2. Are cartridges ok, or should I just go ahead and get a converter now?
3. Fine or medium nib? I plan on using this for signatures & doodling. I'm leaning towards fine.

I have two Metropolitans and two Safaris.  The Metro's have much nicer nibs.  But I prefer the design of the Safari.  Neither has an awesome section.  The Safari has a sort of triangular grip section which lefties and some righties don't like.  The Metro section has a sharp edge and large differential in size from barrel to section, which I don't like.  So, YMMV.  Metro is cheaper to try for your first FP, and with a smoother nib, it's what I'd recommend. Note that nib size between them is different, a Pilot F is similar to a Lamy EF. (Japanese nibs are about a size smaller than western/euro nibs)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: drewba on Thu, 26 February 2015, 15:32:10
Thanks CPT, good stuff. I'm assuming there's a fair bit of trial & error when it comes to finding a pen that is right for you. I think I'm going to head to the art shop and see if they have any pens to test out.

I think it's harder to recommend pens than keyboards. Everyone's handwriting style and preferences are so unique to them. I highly encourage you to try them out for yourself.

For example it turns out that I unconsciously roll my pens a little when I write. With a ballpoint or rollerball, this isn't an issue. But with fountain pens, especially with nibs like a 1.9mm stub, if I rotate too much I can't get the pen to write properly. I didn't even notice this until about 6 months ago. Your own handwriting make have quirks and will cause you to like X over Y.

At least the price point is a bit more approachable than keyboards! Thanks again :)

So, I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to fountain pens. I used to mess around with my mom's fountain pens back when she used to do calligraphy & scrap book stuff but I was like 11.

Does anyone have any input on the Lamy Vista currently on massdrop for $22 shipped (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lamy-vista-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open)? Like most things on MD, it looks like I'll only save a few dollars but the reviews I've read speak highly of the Vista (and Lamy in general). Can you guys point me in the right direction?

1. Would the Vista be a good beginner option? The Pilot Metropolitan seems to be the pen that just about everyone recommends to start with. Should I start at the bottom with a $4 Platinum Preppy? 
2. Are cartridges ok, or should I just go ahead and get a converter now?
3. Fine or medium nib? I plan on using this for signatures & doodling. I'm leaning towards fine.

I have two Metropolitans and two Safaris.  The Metro's have much nicer nibs.  But I prefer the design of the Safari.  Neither has an awesome section.  The Safari has a sort of triangular grip section which lefties and some righties don't like.  The Metro section has a sharp edge and large differential in size from barrel to section, which I don't like.  So, YMMV.  Metro is cheaper to try for your first FP, and with a smoother nib, it's what I'd recommend. Note that nib size between them is different, a Pilot F is similar to a Lamy EF. (Japanese nibs are about a size smaller than western/euro nibs)

What am I about to get myself in to...but seriously thanks for the input. Luckily I have a pen shop near me that stocks Safaris & Metropolitans (AND $1000+ Mont Blancs but I digress), so I'll see what feels good in my hands.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Thu, 26 February 2015, 17:37:57
What am I about to get myself in to...but seriously thanks for the input. Luckily I have a pen shop near me that stocks Safaris & Metropolitans (AND $1000+ Mont Blancs but I digress), so I'll see what feels good in my hands.

These pens are a gateway drug.  I'll check back in six months and you'll have posted like eight more pens that you have purchased, in increasing cost with each purchase  :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jixr on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:49:56
can anyone recomend a cheap FP that has a plastic see through body ( not a disposable one though )
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Fri, 27 February 2015, 14:29:13
can anyone recomend a cheap FP that has a plastic see through body ( not a disposable one though )

Lamy Vista (clear version of the Safari/AL-Star line) ($20-25)

or, if you want a step up:

TWSBI Mini or TWSBI 580 or Pilot Prera Clear (these are all $50-60)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 27 February 2015, 19:53:52
Tip: do not get a writing pen for doodling.

i'm with binge.........use something else if just for doodling
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:30:33
can anyone recomend a cheap FP that has a plastic see through body ( not a disposable one though )

demonstrator konrad w/nemosine nib
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:33:46
can anyone recomend a cheap FP that has a plastic see through body ( not a disposable one though )

I was going to say Vista, TWSBI 580/700, or Prera. But since those have been suggested, Kaweco Sport is an option too.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sun, 01 March 2015, 16:21:13
can anyone recomend a cheap FP that has a plastic see through body ( not a disposable one though )

there are a bunch out there, but here are a few..............

lamy safari demonstrator

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamy-Safari-Vista-Fountain-Pen-Clear-Demonstrator-Fine-Nib-/331461503362?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2ca52982 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamy-Safari-Vista-Fountain-Pen-Clear-Demonstrator-Fine-Nib-/331461503362?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2ca52982)

noodlers ahab clear demonstrater

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Noodlers-Ahab-Fountain-Pen-Demo-/271720495348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f43cdb8f4 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Noodlers-Ahab-Fountain-Pen-Demo-/271720495348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f43cdb8f4)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Noodlers-Ink-Ahab-Piston-Fountain-Pen-Carniolan-Honey/390929603725?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D28772%26meid%3Dc9834769ee9043b6990ca703cca35223%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D271720495348&rt=nc
 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Noodlers-Ink-Ahab-Piston-Fountain-Pen-Carniolan-Honey/390929603725?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D28772%26meid%3Dc9834769ee9043b6990ca703cca35223%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D271720495348&rt=nc)

noodlers standard

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Noodler-s-fountain-pen-Standard-orange-transparent-/161604451064?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a0603af8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Noodler-s-fountain-pen-Standard-orange-transparent-/161604451064?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a0603af8)

misc Inexpensive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clear-Demonstrator-Piston-Filling-Fountain-Pen-FINE-NIB-/151556112793?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234972c199 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clear-Demonstrator-Piston-Filling-Fountain-Pen-FINE-NIB-/151556112793?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234972c199)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nemosine-Singularity-Demonstrator-Fountain-Pen-Calligraphy-0-6-Nib-/371203685572?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566d76bcc4 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nemosine-Singularity-Demonstrator-Fountain-Pen-Calligraphy-0-6-Nib-/371203685572?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566d76bcc4)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:10:27
Baltimore Pen Show was pretty fun. (http://imgur.com/a/Twl9Z)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:14:40
Is that the same chocolate guy as the philly show?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:15:07
Is that the same chocolate guy as the philly show?

Ye ye.  You're missing out bro :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:16:50
Baltimore is a long drive from Rochester :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:20:48
Baltimore is a long drive from Rochester :P

BUT THE CHOCOLATE!!!! T-T
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:23:27
Baltimore is a long drive from Rochester :P

BUT THE CHOCOLATE!!!! T-T

Find one closer to me and I'll join you guys :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 08 March 2015, 15:24:44
Baltimore is a long drive from Rochester :P

BUT THE CHOCOLATE!!!! T-T

Find one closer to me and I'll join you guys :P

I'm just gonna get fat and write bad poetry in the tub with my ink, pens, and chocolates.  When you get to be MAN enough to make the trip then we'll talk.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 March 2015, 16:58:56
(http://i.imgur.com/C37B3ea.jpg?2)

Booper sent me this lovely handwritten note that came with my Monkey keycap today. I love the ink color and her handwriting is better than the bottom of her note made it seem!

(http://i.imgur.com/NQeyRoI.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Mon, 09 March 2015, 18:27:43
Since CPTBadAss outed me I guess I may as well stop lurking! Sorry for the crappy photos

(http://i.imgur.com/KJI29LQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/J3fBKDC.jpg)

My initial assessments - I'm used to writing small so the fine nibs are awesome IMO for all-the-time writing. Medium is fun though! Also, I got the cheap yafa(?) pen at the Office Depot in town. It's quite inferior to the other 3 but I like it because of the color/fine nib. I've got some ink samples ordered though for the other pens! :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 09 March 2015, 19:13:01
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C37B3ea.jpg?2)


Booper sent me this lovely handwritten note that came with my Monkey keycap today. I love the ink color and her handwriting is better than the bottom of her note made it seem!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NQeyRoI.jpg?1)


What is that monkey?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 10 March 2015, 08:35:37
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C37B3ea.jpg?2)


Booper sent me this lovely handwritten note that came with my Monkey keycap today. I love the ink color and her handwriting is better than the bottom of her note made it seem!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NQeyRoI.jpg?1)


What is that monkey?

MonKEYcap :3  ooo ah ah
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Tue, 10 March 2015, 22:21:18
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C37B3ea.jpg?2)


Booper sent me this lovely handwritten note that came with my Monkey keycap today. I love the ink color and her handwriting is better than the bottom of her note made it seem!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NQeyRoI.jpg?1)


(http://i.imgur.com/DuxWQsH.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:21:21
those ti2 pens worth their price?

honest answer
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:26:09
those ti2 pens worth their price?

honest answer

I really like my pen. It's probably not worth it to get one of the fancy colors, but I have a hobby based spending problem. It feels really nice in my hand and is well balanced which was important to me. The hitec c ink has been dealing with Rochester's 0 degree weather quite well despite being outside for fairly substantial periods of time.

The only thing I see wearing out are the o rings, which are absurdly easy and cheap to replace. I bought ~12 purple o rings for basically $0 on ebay.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:30:36
thanks.

i have one of these

http://www.bigidesign.com/welcome/phx-pen-2/

and tbh, it feels like it's unnecessarily heavy. granted, it's only 29 bucks, stainless steel and not titanium, so i doubt a lot went into it design wise.

ive had my eye on the ti2 but found the price a little too steep and was hesitant after the phx pen on getting another metal type pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:34:39
Heya!

Been a while since I last posted.

Got myself a sailor 1911 with a 21k gold music nib but unfortunately the nib is extremely dry when I don't put any pressure.

If I glide the pen on the paper no ink comes out =/

I don't have much experience with music nibs but I feel like this shouldn't be happening (I have another sailor pen and it writes fine).

Any suggestions on diagnosing the issue?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:02:03
thanks.

i have one of these

http://www.bigidesign.com/welcome/phx-pen-2/

and tbh, it feels like it's unnecessarily heavy. granted, it's only 29 bucks, stainless steel and not titanium, so i doubt a lot went into it design wise.

ive had my eye on the ti2 but found the price a little too steep and was hesitant after the phx pen on getting another metal type pen.

They are metal, so they aren't light compared with plastic pens. However, it hasn't been heavy enough for my hand to feel any more fatigue than I would with a plastic pen. I looked it up and the Ti2 weighs just about half of what your current pen weighs.

The final piece of relevant info, is that it can be taken apart into a sufficient quantity of pieces to entertain myself while in class (Somehow this is an important feature to me).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:05:44
oh, i know they weigh more.

i like heavy pens/pencils. didnt expect this one to be that much. it doesnt feel balanced at all.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:31:16

Got myself a sailor 1911 with a 21k gold music nib but unfortunately the nib is extremely dry when I don't put any pressure.

If I glide the pen on the paper no ink comes out =/

I don't have much experience with music nibs but I feel like this shouldn't be happening (I have another sailor pen and it writes fine).

Any suggestions on diagnosing the issue?

Since you mentioned it's new, did you flush it first?  Sometimes there are oils from the manufacturing process, or even dried ink if they tested it. I've had a good flush fix a new pen that was having hard starts and ink starvation.

If you already did or that doesn't do the trick, you may want to consider returning it for an exchange.  A music nib, in my understanding, should actually be wetter than a standard nib due to the width and two channels for ink flow.  There are also methods for increasing ink flow using brass shim plates, but again if it's a new pen you probably wouldn't want to mess with that if it's still exchange-able.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:41:18
Heya!

Been a while since I last posted.

Got myself a sailor 1911 with a 21k gold music nib but unfortunately the nib is extremely dry when I don't put any pressure.

If I glide the pen on the paper no ink comes out =/

I don't have much experience with music nibs but I feel like this shouldn't be happening (I have another sailor pen and it writes fine).

Any suggestions on diagnosing the issue?

Like halfalligatorshark said, I'd flush the pen first and soak the nib in water and a bit of dish detergent. Also what ink are you using? Could be a thing where the ink and the pen aren't playing nicely.

thanks.

i have one of these

http://www.bigidesign.com/welcome/phx-pen-2/

and tbh, it feels like it's unnecessarily heavy. granted, it's only 29 bucks, stainless steel and not titanium, so i doubt a lot went into it design wise.

ive had my eye on the ti2 but found the price a little too steep and was hesitant after the phx pen on getting another metal type pen.

Other well regarded machined metal pens include the Tactile Turn Mover and Shaker as well as the Karas Kustoms pens. There's a lot of them coming out on Kickstarter as well.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:47:13
Heya!

Been a while since I last posted.

Got myself a sailor 1911 with a 21k gold music nib but unfortunately the nib is extremely dry when I don't put any pressure.

If I glide the pen on the paper no ink comes out =/

I don't have much experience with music nibs but I feel like this shouldn't be happening (I have another sailor pen and it writes fine).

Any suggestions on diagnosing the issue?

Like halfalligatorshark said, I'd flush the pen first and soak the nib in water and a bit of dish detergent. Also what ink are you using? Could be a thing where the ink and the pen aren't playing nicely.

thanks.

i have one of these

http://www.bigidesign.com/welcome/phx-pen-2/

and tbh, it feels like it's unnecessarily heavy. granted, it's only 29 bucks, stainless steel and not titanium, so i doubt a lot went into it design wise.

ive had my eye on the ti2 but found the price a little too steep and was hesitant after the phx pen on getting another metal type pen.

Other well regarded machined metal pens include the Tactile Turn Mover and Shaker as well as the Karas Kustoms pens. There's a lot of them coming out on Kickstarter as well.

I'll try with another ink. Using iroshizuku momiji ink. I flushed the feed and let it soak already ;( would be a shame to have to send it back to Japan. I'll try with some J herbin tonight, thanks!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 11 March 2015, 08:49:42
I'll try with another ink. Using iroshizuku momiji ink. I flushed the feed and let it soak already ;( would be a shame to have to send it back to Japan. I'll try with some J herbin tonight, thanks!

How long did you let it soak? I've had to soak pens overnight sometimes to get them to write. And there should be a US or Canadian Sailor contact you could get a hold of. I don't think you'd have to send it to Japan. But that's weird. Iroshizuku ususally has no issues.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 11 March 2015, 09:15:26
I'll try with another ink. Using iroshizuku momiji ink. I flushed the feed and let it soak already ;( would be a shame to have to send it back to Japan. I'll try with some J herbin tonight, thanks!

How long did you let it soak? I've had to soak pens overnight sometimes to get them to write. And there should be a US or Canadian Sailor contact you could get a hold of. I don't think you'd have to send it to Japan. But that's weird. Iroshizuku ususally has no issues.

My Yamabudo is writing flawlessly in my Nakaya right now.
I bought the Sailor from Engeika and they have a return/exchange policy that I can take advantage of. I'll give it a nice long soak as soon as I get home. I admittedly didn't soak it for that long.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SeeThruHead on Sun, 15 March 2015, 17:59:33
Is there a separate thread for notebooks and the like? I've been using a Rhodia webnotebook for a bit now but I'm thinking about picking up a midori style travellers notebook. Anyone have on of these? If so any recommendations for inserts and paper types?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 16 March 2015, 06:00:02
Is there a separate thread for notebooks and the like? I've been using a Rhodia webnotebook for a bit now but I'm thinking about picking up a midori style travellers notebook. Anyone have on of these? If so any recommendations for inserts and paper types?

There's no thread on paper or notebooks.

A Midori style travelers notebook is essentially just a notebook cover and you can put multiple notebooks inside. I actually have been working with Noko to have a "Faux-dori" made. So keep an eye out for that. Anyways, I think they're a good idea and will help me keep my few notebooks organized. A bit pricey though. You can always look up fauxdori to see how people made them for less.

Papers I love: Rhodia. I use it almost exclusively. HP printer paper is good as long as you get the really high GSM stuff. Tomoe River is nice but it's a bit pricey and too thin for my tastes.

Notebooks I love: Rhodia and Field Notes. I always have a Field Notes on me at work. I have a Rhodia at home (for long form stuff) and a Field Notes (random notes).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 16 March 2015, 11:58:33
I still have to send out some packages to CPT.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 16 March 2015, 12:05:05
I still have to send out some packages to CPT.

What kind of stuff are you sending CPT?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:00:39
I still have to send out some packages to CPT.

What kind of stuff are you sending CPT?


Paper samples, stickers, and love letters.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:06:39
I still have to send out some packages to CPT.

What kind of stuff are you sending CPT?


Paper samples, stickers, and love letters.

Sounds pretty fun. Are these custom Binge stickers?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:39:16
I still have to send out some packages to CPT.

What kind of stuff are you sending CPT?


Paper samples, stickers, and love letters.

Sounds pretty fun. Are these custom Binge stickers?

yeeuupp!

(http://i.imgur.com/VHT7re5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/auSXHyg.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Mon, 16 March 2015, 14:00:21
Those are sweet! Now I feel like I need to make stickers of the claptrap I use for my icon everywhere lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:37:22
(http://i.imgur.com/0cAA3cR.jpg)

Been practicing a lot. Not bad but not great either. Still far better than my writing was when I first got this pen. Plenty of room for improvement though.
Other than random notes or things for a list, I haven't written in many years. Started with atrocious non legible writing as well as fatigue. For a bit I felt I wasted my money. Writing seems like such a mundane task but when not done regularly, especially for many years, it's actually something of a bit of effort to write well. At least it is for me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 17 March 2015, 05:56:24
Is there a separate thread for notebooks and the like? I've been using a Rhodia webnotebook for a bit now but I'm thinking about picking up a midori style travellers notebook. Anyone have on of these? If so any recommendations for inserts and paper types?

There's no thread on paper or notebooks.

A Midori style travelers notebook is essentially just a notebook cover and you can put multiple notebooks inside. I actually have been working with Noko to have a "Faux-dori" made. So keep an eye out for that. Anyways, I think they're a good idea and will help me keep my few notebooks organized. A bit pricey though. You can always look up fauxdori to see how people made them for less.

Papers I love: Rhodia. I use it almost exclusively. HP printer paper is good as long as you get the really high GSM stuff. Tomoe River is nice but it's a bit pricey and too thin for my tastes.

Notebooks I love: Rhodia and Field Notes. I always have a Field Notes on me at work. I have a Rhodia at home (for long form stuff) and a Field Notes (random notes).

Yeah I was looking at the A5 faux dori from www.chicsparrow.com Seems like there are some really nice leather options available. I realized after posting before that i could get the blank large rhodia R pads and fold them in half. Also going to give Tomoe River a try. Thanks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 17 March 2015, 12:50:01
(http://i.imgur.com/jLQeUru.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Tue, 17 March 2015, 13:00:37
are all of those packages stickers?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 17 March 2015, 15:16:26
are all of those packages stickers?

Those are all packages for the upcoming sale.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Tue, 17 March 2015, 15:55:01
are all of those packages stickers?

Those are all packages for the upcoming sale.

Apparently I need to pay more attention to your subforum. Didnt even know there was a sale coming up :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 March 2015, 19:30:43
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jLQeUru.jpg)


That looks pretty bad. Pass it over my way and I'll dispose of the Onoto for you.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sgwizdak on Sun, 29 March 2015, 14:46:28
Edison F with Noodler's Bad Blue Heron.

(http://i.imgur.com/5wis1wh.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 29 March 2015, 15:24:01
But where is the pen? Nice handwriting XD
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sgwizdak on Sun, 29 March 2015, 16:43:28
Here's the Edison:

(http://i.imgur.com/8ME65zw.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:18:18
Probably the lowest this Visconti will get to be outside of the used market,

Homo Sapiens - Florentine Hills - $599 @ massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/visconti-homo-sapiens-florentine-hills?mode=guest_open)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:21:17
Probably the lowest this Visconti will get to be outside of the used market,

Homo Sapiens - Florentine Hills - $599 @ massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/visconti-homo-sapiens-florentine-hills?mode=guest_open)

It makes me ridiculously sad because a) it's a piston fill (which I love more than anything) and b) I can't come anywhere near that price haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:27:32
Probably the lowest this Visconti will get to be outside of the used market,

Homo Sapiens - Florentine Hills - $599 @ massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/visconti-homo-sapiens-florentine-hills?mode=guest_open)

It makes me ridiculously sad because a) it's a piston fill (which I love more than anything) and b) I can't come anywhere near that price haha.

That's not a piston, that's a plunger fill.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: IonutZ on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:52:20
That Visconti kinda makes me wanna pick up resin casting lol.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:54:59
Probably the lowest this Visconti will get to be outside of the used market,

Homo Sapiens - Florentine Hills - $599 @ massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/visconti-homo-sapiens-florentine-hills?mode=guest_open)

It makes me ridiculously sad because a) it's a piston fill (which I love more than anything) and b) I can't come anywhere near that price haha.

I handled one of these in person at a pen show recently and it was phenomenal.  If I were able to allocate that type of coin to a pen purchase right now though, it would be a Nakaya.  I think I would buy in this order:  1) Nakaya  2) Pelikan  3) Visconti  (for pens > $400)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:57:22
Probably the lowest this Visconti will get to be outside of the used market,

Homo Sapiens - Florentine Hills - $599 @ massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/visconti-homo-sapiens-florentine-hills?mode=guest_open)

It makes me ridiculously sad because a) it's a piston fill (which I love more than anything) and b) I can't come anywhere near that price haha.

That's not a piston, that's a plunger fill.


So it is. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 30 March 2015, 18:00:25
That Visconti kinda makes me wanna pick up resin casting lol.

That isn't a resin cast effect.  That is optically clear/trans green PMMA encapsulating cellulite in a swirl pattern.  Cast plastics would rarely get as durable and UV resistant.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retainerbox on Tue, 31 March 2015, 17:10:19
Hello! :) Just recently joined GeekHack, and I have found the Fountain Pen thread!! Wooo.
(http://i.imgur.com/k1FWrI9.png)
My collection from bottom left to the top right: TWSBI Diamond 580 (Fine), Parker 25, Shaeffer Imperial II, Pilot Metropolitan, Lamy Safari, and Noodler Ahab. In terms of inks, I own Diamine Aqua, Noodler's Apache Sunset, Noodler's Borealis Black, and Private Reserve Plum.

My daily writer right now is my TWSBI 580 with Diamine Aqua. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/nBXTvGm.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8KzcgDk.jpg?1)

Started collecting pens about a year before I got interested in keyboards, what about you guys?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 April 2015, 08:30:08
Nice little collection retainerbox! I started getting into fountain pens about a year ago. I've been on Geekhack for about 2 years now so I was into keyboards for a year before fountain pens. My collection really ballooned last year thanks to some incredible generous gifts from terrpn and skcheng as well as a general "OMG I WANT EVERY PEN" syndrome. Now that I've kind of figured out what I like, I've really slowed down. The last pen I bought was a Franklin Christoph 40P with a steel broad stub. I'll have to take some pictures of my collection soon. For now, here's a picture of my little Pelikan flock (https://instagram.com/p/yAJHq9sOuq/).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:58:53
hey retainerbox,

I've a fairly similar collection of pens as you; a twsbi 580, a noodlers konrad, pilot metro, lamy safari. the twsbi is by far my favorite and my daily writer as well (that blue is very nice! I ought to check out the diamine stuff sometime. I'm still going through waterman and pelikan inks)

those are some sweet pens CPTBadass!

do share how your pelikan flock were 'improved' at the pen show. I've been messing around with grinding nibs (and destroyed quite a few), and I've similarly come to learn more or less what I'm looking for in a pen (current lusting after Japanese pens for the really fine lines they lay down :D)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retainerbox on Thu, 02 April 2015, 10:26:58
Nice little collection retainerbox! I started getting into fountain pens about a year ago. I've been on Geekhack for about 2 years now so I was into keyboards for a year before fountain pens. My collection really ballooned last year thanks to some incredible generous gifts from terrpn and skcheng as well as a general "OMG I WANT EVERY PEN" syndrome. Now that I've kind of figured out what I like, I've really slowed down. The last pen I bought was a Franklin Christoph 40P with a steel broad stub. I'll have to take some pictures of my collection soon. For now, here's a picture of my little Pelikan flock (https://instagram.com/p/yAJHq9sOuq/).
So, you  mean like the OMG I WANT EVERY KEYCAP syndrome? ;) The Pelikans are BEAUTIFUL! I especially like the blue one, second from the back. I would love to pick up a Pelikan of my own. If only there were pen shows further north, let's say, oh maybe Canada?

hey retainerbox,

I've a fairly similar collection of pens as you; a twsbi 580, a noodlers konrad, pilot metro, lamy safari. the twsbi is by far my favorite and my daily writer as well (that blue is very nice! I ought to check out the diamine stuff sometime. I'm still going through waterman and pelikan inks)
Oh, very similar! Haha, Looks like we bought almost the exact same pens. The two vintage pens were gifts from my parents. :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 02 April 2015, 10:29:26
dis gun be my first and last pelikan,

http://www.pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US_INTL.FWI.displayShop.204461./souver%C3%A4n-m805-demonstrator
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 02 April 2015, 14:48:31
those are some sweet pens CPTBadass!

do share how your pelikan flock were 'improved' at the pen show. I've been messing around with grinding nibs (and destroyed quite a few), and I've similarly come to learn more or less what I'm looking for in a pen (current lusting after Japanese pens for the really fine lines they lay down :D)

Thanks. I really like thick lines so I picked up a stock Pelikan 1.5mm nib to put on the cognac M200 and I got a custom grind on the black M200. Tim Girdler did a pillow italic grind with a bit of an oblique. It's essentially a smoother CI with a bit of an angle on it to compensate for my tendency to roll nibs while I write. It's really cool.

I also love Japanese pens; mainly Pilots. But things like Nakaya have me interested.

So, you  mean like the OMG I WANT EVERY KEYCAP syndrome? ;) The Pelikans are BEAUTIFUL! I especially like the blue one, second from the back. I would love to pick up a Pelikan of my own. If only there were pen shows further north, let's say, oh maybe Canada?

Exactly like that haha. I thought TO might have a pen show?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 07 April 2015, 16:25:07
Hey guys, I happen to be able to get a Kaweco Sport with a fine nib. But the seller told me that the Kaweco Sport isn't compatible with a converter. As I had a converter back in school I would like to have one again, for nostalgic reasons. Is that true? Is there still a way to get a converter fit into that or am I stuck with cartridges?
I hope the seller just doesn't know better and a converter still can fit into that Kaweco.

It's really bonkers here in Germany as you rarely can find any Kaweco in a store in the city (at least around where I'm living). I only found one store that had two different Kaweco (Sport, Liliput), many Pelikans (M150 and some not really specified, but you can see the name on the nib), some I don't know about (couldn't see any name whatsoever) and Sheaffer. A really nice store, big on "old" stuff as they liked being advertised.

If the Kaweco Sport doesn't do the trick with the converter, is a Kaweco Liliput better in material, writing and converter-compatible?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retainerbox on Tue, 07 April 2015, 16:27:36
Hey guys, I happen to be able to get a Kaweco Sport with a fine nib. But the seller told me that the Kaweco Sport isn't compatible with a converter. As I had a converter back in school I would like to have one again, for nostalgic reasons. Is that true? Is there still a way to get a converter fit into that or am I stuck with cartridges?
I hope the seller just doesn't know better and a converter still can fit into that Kaweco.

It's really bonkers here in Germany as you rarely can find any Kaweco in a store in the city (at least around where I'm living). I only found one store that had two different Kaweco (Sport, Liliput), many Pelikans (M150 and some not really specified, but you can see the name on the nib), some I don't know about (couldn't see any name whatsoever) and Sheaffer. A really nice store, big on "old" stuff as they liked being advertised.

If the Kaweco Sport doesn't do the trick with the converter, is a Kaweco Liliput better in material, writing and converter-compatible?

Looks like it takes convertors to me https://wonderpens.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/how-to-use-your-kaweco-squeeze-converter/ (https://wonderpens.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/how-to-use-your-kaweco-squeeze-converter/)! Try looking it online? :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 08 April 2015, 07:13:01
Thanks for the link, never heard of the squeeze converter. But I'll definitely ask if they can get one.

I only could find a converter from Montverde but it seems like this converter is to loose and could come off easily while transporting. I wouldn't want any mess in my bag ^^
Another thing I could try is to mod the Kaweco Sport into an eyedropper. But this also seems prone to some leakage, but can hold much more ink than any cartridges or converter (as said in some vids like from GouletPens). Does somebody have experience in having an eyedropper pen? Doesn't need to be a Kaweco pen for that matter.

I'll guess I'll invest into a Kaweco Sport then. I tried a Faber-Castell Basic with F but the Sport wrote much better and being cheaper is plus for me.
Just in case you are wondering, the Sport I can get at ~19€ and the Faber-Castell Basic at 30€.

I would like to thank CPTBadAss for the offer to proxy me a fountain pen! ;) This makes me feel pretty darn good being here at geekhack because of such good people!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Wed, 08 April 2015, 07:52:09
Thanks. I really like thick lines so I picked up a stock Pelikan 1.5mm nib to put on the cognac M200 and I got a custom grind on the black M200. Tim Girdler did a pillow italic grind with a bit of an oblique. It's essentially a smoother CI with a bit of an angle on it to compensate for my tendency to roll nibs while I write. It's really cool.

I also love Japanese pens; mainly Pilots. But things like Nakaya have me interested.


That CI does sound good. I've tried some stubs and I've more or less realised that italic/stub nibs aren't my cup of tea (mostly due to being left-handed; other than the smudging, I found that I have issues keeping to a overhand hook, or writing with the the paper rotated)

I'm mostly looking at Pilots as well. The specialty nibs on their custom heritage series currently have my attention, namely the FA nib for flex writing and the PO nib for another needle-point-ish pen, but Sailor definitely has some interesting nibs as well.

Does somebody have experience in having an eyedropper pen? Doesn't need to be a Kaweco pen for that matter.


https://wonderpens.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/kaweco-sport-eyedropper-conversion-a-how-to/

seems to be fair straightfoward. But keep in mind that in certain climates where temperature changes often, some eyedropper conversions might occasionally have the pen spew out globs of ink, due to the expanding and contracting air pocket in the pen (most of the time its not an issue, but it can happen). I've heard nightmare stories (not sure if true) of people with warm hands and a half filled pen spew out the ink while writing (I'm guessing there is a lower chance of this happening when the pen is full though).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 08 April 2015, 07:57:50
Thanks. I really like thick lines so I picked up a stock Pelikan 1.5mm nib to put on the cognac M200 and I got a custom grind on the black M200. Tim Girdler did a pillow italic grind with a bit of an oblique. It's essentially a smoother CI with a bit of an angle on it to compensate for my tendency to roll nibs while I write. It's really cool.

I also love Japanese pens; mainly Pilots. But things like Nakaya have me interested.


That CI does sound good. I've tried some stubs and I've more or less realised that italic/stub nibs aren't my cup of tea (mostly due to being left-handed; other than the smudging, I found that I have issues keeping to a overhand hook, or writing with the the paper rotated)

I'm mostly looking at Pilots as well. The specialty nibs on their custom heritage series currently have my attention, namely the FA nib for flex writing and the PO nib for another needle-point-ish pen, but Sailor definitely has some interesting nibs as well.

Ah yeah, I've read a lot that being left-handed totally changes how you approach fountain pens and your tastes. It sounds rough haha.

And I've got this odd soft-medium nib on my Custom 74? It feels *SO* good. It's got ever so slight flexing at the tip of the nib but the rest of the nib is rigid. Very weird but it feels incredible.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Wed, 08 April 2015, 08:20:05
totally. as far as I know (I may be wrong), its not possible to write underhand (and get the proper line variation) with a stub with having the paper rotated. That's probably why I started looking at flex pens (haha) for the times I want to do some Copperplate-esque doodling.


And I've got this odd soft-medium nib on my Custom 74? It feels *SO* good. It's got ever so slight flexing at the tip of the nib but the rest of the nib is rigid. Very weird but it feels incredible.

I've had the chance to try the soft-fine vs the fine as well. The soft-fine had a very nice springy feel to it, but is more prone to having a wetter line which could be bad on cheap paper. In comparison, the normal fine nib is more of a nail. The soft-fine is definitely much more enjoyable to write with, and pressing down ever so slightly creates a decent line variation in the writing, though flexing it on purpose probably isn't a good idea :D


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sat, 11 April 2015, 10:00:38
I finally got around and bought a the Kaweco Classic Sport. What you guys think of how I'm writing.
I'm using a Kaweco cartridge, but am lookin into a squeeze converter and getting some Pelikan Edelstein tanzanite ink that you guys recommended.

(http://i.imgur.com/5XU0pLb.jpg)

I hope I can add some mid-range priced fountain pens to my collection.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 April 2015, 08:53:04
I finally got around and bought a the Kaweco Classic Sport. What you guys think of how I'm writing.
I'm using a Kaweco cartridge, but am lookin into a squeeze converter and getting some Pelikan Edelstein tanzanite ink that you guys recommended.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5XU0pLb.jpg)


I hope I can add some mid-range priced fountain pens to my collection.

Not going to lie, the combination of block and script letters is kinda throwing me. But it's definitely legible. Congrats on your new pen though :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 15 April 2015, 17:51:42
Thanks!

Is my combination bad? ^^
I just picked some block letters up during school and have kept it till now. But I was thinking of going back to writing fully in script. I think I would be much quicker writing down stuff. Maybe after I've finished my bachelor thesis I can try to write in script.

Just to get it right, for practice you just write one word a couple of times and a couple more and than try writing sentences or are there any different kind of methods to change your writing?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 15 April 2015, 18:09:16
I write in two styles mainly: All capital block letters and Palmer cursive. I don't mix and match because for me, that would look awful.

This is how I practice (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1606461#msg1606461).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 16 April 2015, 04:24:38
Thanks, I'll look into OtasDIY. Unfortunately I can't visit the page from work :/

I guess I'll create a writing pattern that suits me as sometimes I find writing in script is somehow longer than just using block letters. That was my intention why I have a mix of both. I think I wouldn't change the small s because for my understanding it's much more difficult to distinguish the letter if the 's' is somehwere in between the word. I don't really get it, but many of my Profs and their workers said they couldn't really distinguish my handwriting  :'( I guess I need to agree with them because during an exam you just write as quick as possible then my handwriting suffers a lot.

How is your block handwriting (pics please)? :) Maybe I'll pick something up

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retainerbox on Fri, 17 April 2015, 11:46:59
In case there are non-fountain-pen-users lurkers around, Massdrop is having a Pilot Fountain Pen Starter Set that's on for $46 +  shipping. It comes with 1 pad of paper, 7 disposable (1-time-use) fountain pens, and 4 refillable fountain pens.

Considering that the Pilot Metropolitan alone is $15, and the Rhodia (my favourite brand of fountain pen paper!) is $10, you're getting a pretty good deal.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 17 April 2015, 11:50:59
In case there are non-fountain-pen-users lurkers around, Massdrop is having a Pilot Fountain Pen Starter Set that's on for $46 +  shipping. It comes with 1 pad of paper, 7 disposable (1-time-use) fountain pens, and 4 refillable fountain pens.

Considering that the Pilot Metropolitan alone is $15, and the Rhodia (my favourite brand of fountain pen paper!) is $30, you're getting a VERY good deal.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set)

It is a good deal for those items, but for less I could get some SN^2 pads, a reusable pen, and ink.  I mean feel free to experiment... but ehhhhh
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 11:51:20
In case there are non-fountain-pen-users lurkers around, Massdrop is having a Pilot Fountain Pen Starter Set that's on for $46 +  shipping. It comes with 1 pad of paper, 7 disposable (1-time-use) fountain pens, and 4 refillable fountain pens.

Considering that the Pilot Metropolitan alone is $15, and the Rhodia (my favourite brand of fountain pen paper!) is $30, you're getting a VERY good deal.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set)

That's actually not a deal. That's normal price. Plumixes go for $6. A Varsity is ~$3/1 ~8/3. Rhodia pad is ~$10.

8+8+3+10+18 = $47.

Still a nice kit, just not a screaming deal per se. I'd rather see a starter kit with like two Varsitys ($6), a Metropolitan ($15), and a Rhodia pad ($10). Especially since you're not getting a variety of nibs, just ink colors.


Edit: Sorry, didn't see that there was a Metropolitan in there.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retainerbox on Fri, 17 April 2015, 12:01:23
In case there are non-fountain-pen-users lurkers around, Massdrop is having a Pilot Fountain Pen Starter Set that's on for $46 +  shipping. It comes with 1 pad of paper, 7 disposable (1-time-use) fountain pens, and 4 refillable fountain pens.

Considering that the Pilot Metropolitan alone is $15, and the Rhodia (my favourite brand of fountain pen paper!) is $30, you're getting a VERY good deal.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set)

That's actually not a deal. That's normal price. Plumixes go for $6. A Varsity is ~$3/1 ~8/3. Rhodia pad is ~$10.

8+8+3+10+18 = $47.

Still a nice kit, just not a screaming deal per se. I'd rather see a starter kit with like two Varsitys ($6), a Metropolitan ($15), and a Rhodia pad ($10). Especially since you're not getting a variety of nibs, just ink colors.


Edit: Sorry, didn't see that there was a Metropolitan in there.

You're right though, I didn't realize the Rhodia was that price. For whatever reason, my first google showed that pad at $30.  Deal is still okay though, just not as good as I though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 April 2015, 12:07:08
If you're paying $30 for Rhodia pads like the one that's shown retainerbox, let me know and I can proxy you them at cost.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 17 April 2015, 13:35:56
Modded this TWSBI VAC700 for a fellow hacker SeeThruHead,

(http://i.imgur.com/iynnoxH.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 18 April 2015, 08:45:54
Well I finally bought myself another Fountain Pen and I'm just waiting for it to show up.

Do you guys prefer Rhodia over Clairefontaine? From my research I see that they are the same paper....is that correct?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retainerbox on Sat, 18 April 2015, 09:25:37
Well I finally bought myself another Fountain Pen and I'm just waiting for it to show up.

Do you guys prefer Rhodia over Clairefontaine? From my research I see that they are the same paper....is that correct?
My Clairefontaine feels smoother than my Rhodia. I find that ink takes longer to dry on the Clairfontaine so personally I prefer the Rhodia. I can do a paper sample for you later today if you'd like.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 April 2015, 09:32:30
Clairfontaine has more of a coating than rhodia. That's what causes the difference in feel and drying time.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 18 April 2015, 09:33:11
Well I finally bought myself another Fountain Pen and I'm just waiting for it to show up.

Do you guys prefer Rhodia over Clairefontaine? From my research I see that they are the same paper....is that correct?
My Clairefontaine feels smoother than my Rhodia. I find that ink takes longer to dry on the Clairfontaine so personally I prefer the Rhodia. I can do a paper sample for you later today if you'd like.

That would be awesome!!! I'm looking to start buying good paper so any input is greatly appreciated.

Captain has helped me out a lot as well and I have another question for you all. I have 2 Lamy Safari pens.

1 of them I can't keep the nib wet enough to write consistantly and the other seems to leak? Is there anything I can do to fix this?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 April 2015, 09:38:59
Um the leak question is a bit vague. Do you have your converter seated correctly? Is your nib started correctly?

If it's not wet enough, try using a thin sheet of metal or something thin enough to get between the tines of nib. Floss them gently like you would your teeth. If that doesn't work, try doing a little research on bending the nib. I can't remember which way you slightly bend it, up or down, to get a wetter flow. Also try flushing your pen again. Could have something in your feed or something messing with the flow. Finally, safari nibs are relatively cheap and easily swappable.

Just FYI, not to discourage any participation, but there are plenty of resources to check writing and paper samples. Ed jelley, gourmet pen, gouletpens blog, fountain pen network, and sbrebrown are some of my favorites. The info is already out there if you don't want to wait. But I love the enthusiasm. Please don't let that info stop you from doing your own samples and sharing your own experience.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 18 April 2015, 09:49:25
Um the leak question is a bit vague. Do you have your converter seated correctly? Is your nib started correctly?

If it's not wet enough, try using a thin sheet of metal or something thin enough to get between the tines of nib. Floss them gently like you would your teeth. If that doesn't work, try doing a little research on bending the nib. I can't remember which way you slightly bend it, up or down, to get a wetter flow. Also try flushing your pen again. Could have something in your feed or something messing with the flow. Finally, safari nibs are relatively cheap and easily swappable.


Thanks Captain!!! I'll give the flossing a try.

On the leaking one...I've cleaned it a couple times and every time I fill it I make sure its seeded all the way and in the correct position. I know how the Lamy Safari pen has that notch where the ink well sits. After that every time I put on the cap, leave it for a bit (couple minutes or so), and then remove it there is ink all over the tip and some where I hold it.

And when I write with it the ink distribution isn't even....I'll try to get you an example later.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 April 2015, 10:05:37
Sounds like you've got a crack in the section but I'm not really an expert and is hard to know without seeing the pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 18 April 2015, 10:27:42
Sounds like you've got a crack in the section but I'm not really an expert and is hard to know without seeing the pen.


I'll get some pictures of the pen as well. Thanks again Cap....it's good to finally get back into Pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 18 April 2015, 10:34:56
I prefer Rhodia R, SN^2, and Tomoe River to clairfontaine
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 18 April 2015, 11:19:28
Sounds like you've got a crack in the section but I'm not really an expert and is hard to know without seeing the pen.


I'll get some pictures of the pen as well. Thanks again Cap....it's good to finally get back into Pens.
That's not what your wallet is saying I'm sure . But I'm glad you're enjoying the hobby :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 19 April 2015, 07:41:24
Here is an image of the pen when I take off the cap (this is after a good cleaning and a new refill)

(http://i.imgur.com/SWnwkpK.jpg)

Here is how it writes in comparison of my other Lamy Safari that writes a little dry.

(http://i.imgur.com/2S5xfqM.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 19 April 2015, 08:11:02
Here is an image of the pen when I take off the cap (this is after a good cleaning and a new refill)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SWnwkpK.jpg)


Here is how it writes in comparison of my other Lamy Safari that writes a little dry.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2S5xfqM.jpg)


How old is that leaking lamy, and have you been tinkering with it? The tines on the nib seems to be spread quite far compared to the safari I have on hand.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 09:48:39
Agreed. Those tines aren't looking good.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 19 April 2015, 09:49:45
Here is an image of the pen when I take off the cap (this is after a good cleaning and a new refill)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SWnwkpK.jpg)


Here is how it writes in comparison of my other Lamy Safari that writes a little dry.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2S5xfqM.jpg)


How old is that leaking lamy, and have you been tinkering with it? The tines on the nib seems to be spread quite far compared to the safari I have on hand.

It's about 4 months old but I haven't used it much since it hasn't worked well. The package was slightly damaged when I bought it which might be the contributing factor as to why it leaks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 19 April 2015, 10:16:38
could you take a few pictures of the whole pen? In particular, the end of the pen where 'LAMY' is embossed on the side, and the 'cross' at the top of the pen cap.

Just curious as there have been reports of online sellers selling knock-off Safaris that look very similar to the real thing, but the quality is mostly not up to par as well as fit issues. Could be a reason why the pen never worked well.

if you like, you could check your pen against the pictures in the following thread in the posts near the bottom. http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/267633-buyer-beware-lamy-safari-on-ebay/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:50:00
I agree that both pens aren't as good as I thought they would be. I'm hoping they are a fake to justify that.

(http://i.imgur.com/vT8Owvx.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:58:17
Where did you buy the pens from?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:59:06
Compared a photo of them to a photo on Lamy's site and noticed this...

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 19 April 2015, 13:59:33
Where did you buy the pens from?

Ebay....for cheap too. That should have been my first sign. :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:27:32
Where did you buy the pens from?

Ebay....for cheap too. That should have been my first sign. :(

Your nib looks really weird actually. I noticed that in the first picture too. I'm guessing you got a bootleg and it's not up to Lamy's QC control :(. If you like, I can loan you one of my Lamys for you to try out. I know mine are legit.

And those misaligned tines would cause your nib to write dry.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:56:23
Where did you buy the pens from?

Ebay....for cheap too. That should have been my first sign. :(

Your nib looks really weird actually. I noticed that in the first picture too. I'm guessing you got a bootleg and it's not up to Lamy's QC control :(. If you like, I can loan you one of my Lamys for you to try out. I know mine are legit.

And those misaligned tines would cause your nib to write dry.

I appreciate the offer but I've got an older Pilot pen on it's way. That will be my go to for now until I get a nice Levenger or Monteverde.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 15:00:16
I've got an older Pilot pen on it's way. That will be my go to for now until I get a nice Pilot 74/92/Vanishing Point or Pelikan M100/200/205.

Fixed that for you :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 19 April 2015, 15:55:43
I've got an older Pilot pen on it's way. That will be my go to for now until I get a nice Pilot 74/92/Vanishing Point or Pelikan M100/200/205.

Fixed that for you :P

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 19 April 2015, 21:18:48
I agree that both pens aren't as good as I thought they would be. I'm hoping they are a fake to justify that.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vT8Owvx.jpg)


I can't be sure, but you could have gotten knock offs. The embossing on the fakes doesn't have clean lines as their tolerances for that aren't great. But yea, as CBA mentioned, I thought your nib looked a little weird in the pictures too, which was why I wondered if you got a knockoff. From how much of a nail Lamy nibs are, some substantial damage would have to occur to the pen to get the tines spread like yours.

p.s. Pilots and Pelikans are niceeeeee.....
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 20 April 2015, 21:00:41
So my Pilot showed up a LOT sooner than expected.

[attachimg=1]

That picture you can't quite see the colors of the pen so here is a shot from where I bought it.

[attachimg=2]

So far I am loving the way it writes and looks. It's a little smaller than I'm used to but that's my only complaint.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 April 2015, 21:41:54
Huh never seen that one before. Wonder if that's the same as a Pilot Birdie.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 22 April 2015, 09:35:32
Saw this on Massdrop, and thought of you fountain pen guys.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ledr-tool-roll?mode=guest_open
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 22 April 2015, 15:55:00
Saw this on Massdrop, and thought of you fountain pen guys.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ledr-tool-roll?mode=guest_open

This WILL scratch your pen.. waste of time..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 26 April 2015, 02:10:14
a tad lazy to pull out the camera for shots of the new pen, but here's a page of my handwriting (rather messy, I know) to share.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7662/17085430228_07756e9b9b_b.jpg)

Not the easiest pen to use as it's fairly finicky with regards to its flexing capabilities, but I do like it very much. It almost certainly railroads when I try to write double lines (except for some rare moments) and I had to try it out with a few different inks to see what worked best with it; the Pelikan 4001s aren't great. Waterman shades really well, but railroading is a major problem.

In the end, I went with the Pilot Blue-Black - for some reason, it railroads a little less, but has fairly minimal shading; it is however a great workhorse ink, being very water resistant (but not totally), and... it comes in a 350ml soda bottle for about 20 bucks.

As for the nib, I did know what I was getting into from online reviews that this more of a soft nib (and very soft it is) than an actual flex pen. I'd still stick with my needlepoint for work, but the FA is almost addictively fun to mess around with.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 26 April 2015, 03:53:20
Noob questions - I had a fountain pen set years ago, and spent half a day recently looking for it, but it was either discarded or is hidden in a mislabelled box somewhere since the last house move.  I never really used it anyway.  But I am always on the lookout for a new pen.

1. Is the deal from Massdrop worth it?  As an alternative I could pick up one or two pens cheaply from a local office supplies shop, say Pilot disposables for around $6 if that would give me the general feel of a fountain pen.

2. Do you need special paper?  I noticed the inclusion of paper in the Massdrop bundle, and also discussions above, but is it necessary?  The paper in the notebooks I tend to use is fairly thin and might end up causing problems with a fountain pen.  Maybe.

3. And does anyone feel that their writing has improved with a fountain pen?  Mine is pretty crappy unless I write really slowly and concentrate on each letter, otherwise the letters just seem to flow together in one elongated scribble.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 26 April 2015, 04:20:07
Hi rowdy,

1. I'll assume you're talking about the deal from https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-fountain-pen-starter-set?
In terms of value (what you pay for versus the retail of those items), I'd say its not too bad for someone looking to get a feel of fountain pens. The metro is the real star there, and the fact that its nibs are interchangeably with the 3 plumix pens in the pack is a pretty good way to test out several different nibs at once (with some fiddling). However, my experience with varsities has not been great (too wet, too broad, but it does write very smooth; and somewhat related to your question on paper - the medium sized nibs on lousy paper won't perform well (lots of feathering). If you decide to go for disposables, try the platinum preppy in fine/extra fine. I find it gives a better sense of using a fountain pen, and its not too hard to convert to a eyedropper if you wish to.

2. Special paper is not exactly 'required' but some pens/ink will end up feathering all over lower quality paper. I typically go for paper that's about 80 gsm at least. Certain fine tipped, dry pens paired with drier flowing inks will work fine even on lousy paper. I use a custom ground needlepoint for such paper, and it works fine. My other pens will look rather bad on the same paper.

3. Yes, but probably not solely due to the use of a fountain pen. It does improve your form somewhat (provided you make the effort to adjust), but practice is probably the bigger factor, as well as the conscious effort to improve.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 26 April 2015, 04:58:55
Thanks for that :)

What nib would people recommend for a beginner - fine or medium?

I usually prefer fine tipped ball point pens, but somehow write better with medium ball point pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 26 April 2015, 05:23:04
how fine are your ballpoint pens? As a reference, I used to use the Pilot Hi-Tec 0.4mm as my pen of choice.

When I switched to fountain pens, I wanted a similar line, but even the western EF was a little too broad for me, and that's the lowest it goes without a custom grind. Was fine with a dry ink, however, but still didn't look great when I wrote on non-FP friendly paper like a moleskin notebook I got as a gift. I too, wanted something that could work on all sorts of paper, and eventually settled on a needlepoint, which in retrospect, I realised I could have just gone for Japan made nibs instead.

For Japan made pens, they generally run a little finer than western nibs; for example the preppy mentioned before is a Japanese EF, which is usually around a 0.2mm, and F about 0.3mm, and M goes around 0.5mm. These usually differ slightly between manufacturers. Just a general rule of thumb, a Japanese F about the same as a Western EF and so on.

but if you're going to be using your pens on non-FP friendly papers, I'd recommend something finer, probably a Japanese F, or something in-between like a fine-medium (only exists for some brands). Japanese EF nibs are usually rather toothy unless that's what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 26 April 2015, 05:41:49
I think they're 0.5mm.

I have no idea about half of what you said :))  Maybe it's better for me to start at the bottom, with the aforementioned $6 disposables, and see if they actually feather on the paper I have, and whether my writing is any more or less illegible with it.

The one I was looking at is a Pilot V Pen btw, apparently 5mm nib.

This is a whole new area for me to spend money I don't have, too :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 26 April 2015, 10:06:28
Do you like a thinner or thicker line rowdy?  That's probably more important than your question of what's best for beginners.

If you do opt to not get some nicer paper, a fine might suit you better though. Some cheaper papers are better than others.

And I agree with Larken on #3. It won't instantly improve your handwriting. Rather, it provides a pleasant and smooth writing experience which encourages me to write more. More writing means more practice and your handwriting improves. It also forces you to write slower.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 26 April 2015, 17:39:42
Just ordered a Lamy AL-star off Massdrop. Finally!!! a real Lamy.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 26 April 2015, 17:43:04
Just ordered a Lamy AL-star off Massdrop. Finally!!! a real Lamy.

You'll love it.  I love my Lamy Vista w/broad nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 26 April 2015, 18:04:15
Do you like a thinner or thicker line rowdy?  That's probably more important than your question of what's best for beginners.

If you do opt to not get some nicer paper, a fine might suit you better though. Some cheaper papers are better than others.

And I agree with Larken on #3. It won't instantly improve your handwriting. Rather, it provides a pleasant and smooth writing experience which encourages me to write more. More writing means more practice and your handwriting improves. It also forces you to write slower.

Thinner lines - my writing tends to be thin and spidery.

I suspected a decent pen would not necessarily make me write better, just as a better keyboard won't necessarily make one type faster, but I do write a fair bit at work and I've been seeking a better pen for a long time.

And the paper would mostly be the crappy thin paper in the notebooks I use at work.

For the moment I have decided not to get the Massdrop buy (currency conversion, end of an expensive month etc.) but I might look into the $6 disposable fountain pen at OfficeWorks.  If that works out then another drop might present itself at a more opportune moment.

During the meanwhile, I've got some catching up to do in this thread :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:49:19
Do you like a thinner or thicker line rowdy?  That's probably more important than your question of what's best for beginners.

If you do opt to not get some nicer paper, a fine might suit you better though. Some cheaper papers are better than others.

And I agree with Larken on #3. It won't instantly improve your handwriting. Rather, it provides a pleasant and smooth writing experience which encourages me to write more. More writing means more practice and your handwriting improves. It also forces you to write slower.

Thinner lines - my writing tends to be thin and spidery.

I suspected a decent pen would not necessarily make me write better, just as a better keyboard won't necessarily make one type faster, but I do write a fair bit at work and I've been seeking a better pen for a long time.

And the paper would mostly be the crappy thin paper in the notebooks I use at work.

For the moment I have decided not to get the Massdrop buy (currency conversion, end of an expensive month etc.) but I might look into the $6 disposable fountain pen at OfficeWorks.  If that works out then another drop might present itself at a more opportune moment.

During the meanwhile, I've got some catching up to do in this thread :)

I don't know about that.  My penmanship had improved fundamentally faster with fountain pens than other writing instruments especially when you practice with one pen, and practice often.  After spending a bit of time with one FP, I found that it was hard to write without having a fair bit of extra control.  A good pen is one that writes reliably and produces the kind of line you need.  I have expensive pens that aren't as "good" to my observations as pens which are fractions of the price.

Ask CPT and he'll tell you that some of his favorite pens cost him very little in comparison to some of the more luxurious looking pens which are just damned sparkly.  His tastes are very much toward reliability and minimalistic beauty, and I like swirly junk that feels nice and has odd ways of getting extra line variation.  My pens have had their problems, and I've had to adapt by learning to do at-home modifications.

While it isn't for everyone I can suggest the littlest bit of tuning knowledge makes a world of difference.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Mon, 27 April 2015, 19:17:32
I've recently discovered the Pilot Juice pens as I've been looking for the perfect work pen (my fountain pens stay home).

I really like the 0.38mm. Lays down a very consistent, very fine line with no skipping, though it is noticeably less smooth than the 0.5mm. The Coffee Brown and Blue Black are my favorite colours and are a little more distinguished, though it isn't as obvious with the 0.38mm unless you're writing against black lines/print. The black is very deep, which makes the 0.5mm look rather bold even. There is no bleedthrough on even standard paper, but you can see the ghosting from the flipside. The ink does take a short moment to dry, which has been no problem for right-hand writing, but I suspect that 0.5/0.7mm on certain papers may require slowly writing for left-handers.

The spring-loaded clip is something I hadn't considered at all when buying them but now feels like a necessity as I'm constantly on the go (field tech). Clips to my shirt, pockets, notepad, lanyard, laptop, etc... really handy to not have to force it on but instead pinch it open, place it, and release. Capless is also nice for quick easy of access.

I'm going to be trying the 0.28mm Uniball Signo DX, but I suspect that 0.38mm is the sweet spot.

I know this thread is mostly on FP, but it's also on "handwriting" and for that, the Pilot Juice 0.38 is exceptional.

The colours I have so far (and are mostly in the same palette) are: coffee brown, blue black, turquoise green, dark red (which has a bit of blue in it), black, aqua blue, and violet. The colours do appear darker in the 0.5 than the 0.38, and this seems especially true of the lighter colours).

I also tried the 0.7mm for the coffee brown and it's great for diagrams and signatures, making the colour more bold and saturated, but too coarse for handwriting and print, IMO.

Just thought I'd share my experience for anyone looking for a superb daily writer that comes in extra fine points and unique colours that is more practical than a fountain pen. Happy writing!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 April 2015, 22:52:30
Altis, where's my writing sample to back up your wonderful argument? :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Tue, 28 April 2015, 09:49:48
Altis, where's my writing sample to back up your wonderful argument? :P

I shall provide one later! I'll try to demonstrate a few of the sizes and colours on some decent paper and regular paper.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:08:15
Hallo everyone. I'm going to take the plunge in yet another interest with my first fountain pen. And I was wondering what pen I should look at for a starter?


I heard this one was quite nice for the price: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRPFD96/ref=twister_B00KU09W6I?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Any other suggestions?

I'm not sure On nibs really. I need to be schooled!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 28 April 2015, 15:42:20
Hallo everyone. I'm going to take the plunge in yet another interest with my first fountain pen. And I was wondering what pen I should look at for a starter?


I heard this one was quite nice for the price: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRPFD96/ref=twister_B00KU09W6I?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Any other suggestions?

I'm not sure On nibs really. I need to be schooled!

Nib size is the thickness of the line.  Lots of people like all different sizes.  You just sort of have to be prepared with the more fine nibs that they will be more finicky.  For personal use/modding a broad is the easiest nib to write with out of the box and mod to thinner/custom grinds because it has so much tipping material which can be ground to size.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 28 April 2015, 16:44:59
Hallo everyone. I'm going to take the plunge in yet another interest with my first fountain pen. And I was wondering what pen I should look at for a starter?


I heard this one was quite nice for the price: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRPFD96/ref=twister_B00KU09W6I?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Any other suggestions?

I'm not sure On nibs really. I need to be schooled!

Nib size is the thickness of the line.  Lots of people like all different sizes.  You just sort of have to be prepared with the more fine nibs that they will be more finicky.  For personal use/modding a broad is the easiest nib to write with out of the box and mod to thinner/custom grinds because it has so much tipping material which can be ground to size.

If you finger-write,  get fine or extra-fine.

If you have a developed upper arm technique, you can venture into medium or broad.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 28 April 2015, 23:12:43
I've recently discovered the Pilot Juice pens ......

Sounds like something I would've loved to use during my Pilot Hi-tec 0.4mm using days. How do they compare to the Hi-tec pens, if you've used those too?

Hallo everyone. I'm going to take the plunge in yet another interest with my first fountain pen. And I was wondering what pen I should look at for a starter?


I heard this one was quite nice for the price: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRPFD96/ref=twister_B00KU09W6I?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Any other suggestions?

I'm not sure On nibs really. I need to be schooled!

The Pilot Metro is a good starter pen for its price.

Binge's point about fine nibs being more finicky is a good one, as some fine nibs aren't quite as smooth as the broad ones out of the box. (Pilot nibs, in my personal experience so far, are very smooth even for fines, and for some pens, I'd even say they over-smooth their nibs).

But I'd say go for the fine first, for practical reasons. Broader nibs tend to lay down a thicker line, which generally means they put down a lot more ink on the page. As someone who started into fountain pens with a pilot metro with a medium nib (got it as a gift, which in turn sparked the whole fountain pen thing), while the writing was extremely smooth, the pen was near unusable due to the kind of paper I used, i.e. printer copy page, random notebooks, documents from clients. The broad nib feathered ink all over the place/produced writing that was unreadable (unless writing large letters). Almost turned me off fountain pens altogether.

Although, I have tried medium/broad nibs that was tuned to be extremely dry that works great even on copier paper (which was pretty amazing), but my metro wasn't one of those.

As for modding, it is a another area you could get into but its also a good way to destroy the nib if you don't know what you're doing. Grinding a broad into a fine properly, while not the hardest thing to do, is not exactly easier either (plus you have to be interested in doing such stuff).

Finer nibs are imo a better way to go if you're starting out, and don't intend to get fp friendly papers alongside your purchase. But if you do intend to get some nice quality paper, going with a medium or broad is good too.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 29 April 2015, 01:11:01
I've recently discovered the Pilot Juice pens ......

Sounds like something I would've loved to use during my Pilot Hi-tec 0.4mm using days. How do they compare to the Hi-tec pens, if you've used those too?

Hallo everyone. I'm going to take the plunge in yet another interest with my first fountain pen. And I was wondering what pen I should look at for a starter?


I heard this one was quite nice for the price: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRPFD96/ref=twister_B00KU09W6I?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Any other suggestions?

I'm not sure On nibs really. I need to be schooled!

The Pilot Metro is a good starter pen for its price.

Binge's point about fine nibs being more finicky is a good one, as some fine nibs aren't quite as smooth as the broad ones out of the box. (Pilot nibs, in my personal experience so far, are very smooth even for fines, and for some pens, I'd even say they over-smooth their nibs).

But I'd say go for the fine first, for practical reasons. Broader nibs tend to lay down a thicker line, which generally means they put down a lot more ink on the page. As someone who started into fountain pens with a pilot metro with a medium nib (got it as a gift, which in turn sparked the whole fountain pen thing), while the writing was extremely smooth, the pen was near unusable due to the kind of paper I used, i.e. printer copy page, random notebooks, documents from clients. The broad nib feathered ink all over the place/produced writing that was unreadable (unless writing large letters). Almost turned me off fountain pens altogether.

Although, I have tried medium/broad nibs that was tuned to be extremely dry that works great even on copier paper (which was pretty amazing), but my metro wasn't one of those.

As for modding, it is a another area you could get into but its also a good way to destroy the nib if you don't know what you're doing. Grinding a broad into a fine properly, while not the hardest thing to do, is not exactly easier either (plus you have to be interested in doing such stuff).

Finer nibs are imo a better way to go if you're starting out, and don't intend to get fp friendly papers alongside your purchase. But if you do intend to get some nice quality paper, going with a medium or broad is good too.
I got my nice paper and pen down. Now, what about Ink? What's a good nice black or maybe a nice red ink? (Red for some flair :P)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 April 2015, 08:01:38
I got my nice paper and pen down. Now, what about Ink? What's a good nice black or maybe a nice red ink? (Red for some flair :P)

I don't like red ink so I won't suggest anything but I will say in general, Diamine and J Herbin have very affordable inks which are very well behaved. Diamine is my favorite ink brand.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 29 April 2015, 11:07:02
I got my nice paper and pen down. Now, what about Ink? What's a good nice black or maybe a nice red ink? (Red for some flair :P)

I don't like red ink so I won't suggest anything but I will say in general, Diamine and J Herbin have very affordable inks which are very well behaved. Diamine is my favorite ink brand.

+1 for Diamine love.  I also appreciate Levenger ink due to its lubricated properties.  On that note noodler's black ink is great to use, and I've also had a good run with Sailor Jentle inks.  There's a french brand I imported, tried, liked, and it's inexpensive if you buy a bunch of colors in one go (link below).

http://www.artisanpastellier.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=23_35_36&osCsid=8710ebacad8f3a01a5e14bf81a6c3201

I would say the colors aren't as rich, but they are unique as many of them hit pastel tones.

I've not had great experiences with reds, but then again I haven't tried the Levenger reds... which I believe would probably be the exception to all of my bad experiences.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: wakko on Thu, 30 April 2015, 17:33:42
The lost art of writing. I had to learn cursive in school and it stuck with me. I've had Sheafer, Parker, Pilot and a few other pens over the years. My daily is a cheapo Pilot.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Touch_It on Thu, 30 April 2015, 17:48:39
Do I win a prize?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: wakko on Thu, 30 April 2015, 17:51:28

Hallo everyone. I'm going to take the plunge in yet another interest with my first fountain pen. And I was wondering what pen I should look at for a starter?


I heard this one was quite nice for the price: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRPFD96/ref=twister_B00KU09W6I?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Any other suggestions?

I'm not sure On nibs really. I need to be schooled!

That's a really good pen for the money.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clacktalk on Tue, 05 May 2015, 06:41:46
i'm gonna start playing with a flex nib soon!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 May 2015, 08:48:21
The lost art of writing. I had to learn cursive in school and it stuck with me. I've had Sheafer, Parker, Pilot and a few other pens over the years. My daily is a cheapo Pilot.

I wish I could write daily in cursive. I write far too slowly though. Nice handwriting.

Do I win a prize?

Ten gold stars!

i'm gonna start playing with a flex nib soon!

Which one smacktalk?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:06:26
Quick question: store fountain pens with nib up or down?

I can see that if stored down and there is a leak, it will be very messy.

I can also see that if stored up, the nib might dry out.

Thoughts?  Experiences?

PS. Just got my two Pilot V-Pen disposable fountain pens (gotta start somewhere) :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 May 2015, 07:35:45
A pen that ur using often, it doesn't matter

Storage, you'd flush and dry.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 07:44:28
Quick question: store fountain pens with nib up or down?

I can see that if stored down and there is a leak, it will be very messy.

I can also see that if stored up, the nib might dry out.

Thoughts?  Experiences?

PS. Just got my two Pilot V-Pen disposable fountain pens (gotta start somewhere) :)
Doesn't really matter in my experience and I like V Pens a lot.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:01:38
Quick question: store fountain pens with nib up or down?

I can see that if stored down and there is a leak, it will be very messy.

I can also see that if stored up, the nib might dry out.

Thoughts?  Experiences?

PS. Just got my two Pilot V-Pen disposable fountain pens (gotta start somewhere) :)

Horizontal is the best storage, but like TP-4 suggested if you are using the pen a lot it does not matter too much.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 May 2015, 16:48:12
Thanks guys :)

Next silly question: leave the cap on or off during the day?

With the ball point pens I tend to take the cap off at the beginning of the day, then carry pen and clipboard around with me all day, ready to write at an instant's notice.

Is leaving the cap off all day recommended for a fountain pen?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 06 May 2015, 17:11:58
Cap definitely on when not in use. Never leave it uncapped for extended periods of time. It'll help accelerate the evaporation of your ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 May 2015, 17:12:44
Cap definitely on when not in use. Never leave it uncapped for extended periods of time. It'll help accelerate the evaporation of your ink.

Ok, thanks :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: wakko on Wed, 06 May 2015, 18:32:19

Cap definitely on when not in use. Never leave it uncapped for extended periods of time. It'll help accelerate the evaporation of your ink.
what he said
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 07 May 2015, 01:30:37
Just got a Sheaffer 300 in black and gold trim for $28....with the converter, extra ink, and a red case.

Love my Scheaffer Calligraphy pen with fine nib...can't wait to try this one!!! And of course there will be a handwriting photo.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:53:51
Massdrop pulled through on an amazing Visconti deal only to give me the wrong nib!  Oh well... still gotta take pics :)

(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vWeX8Z8.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sorijealut on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:02:45
Hi guys, are there any general but important pointers to help improve your handwriting?

Like what kind of mental image should I have/ do you point the pen up straight / grip it firmly / do you focus on your elbow, etc.

edit: I guess the question's a little broad, since I don't own a fountain pen yet and I'm just practicing with my normal .3 and .5 pen :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:20:06
Gaaaah, I love writing now! I've been doodling/practicing off and on pretty much all day everyday. SO! here is a little photo dump -

I got a Noodler's Ahab because I wanted to try a flex pen for a decent price so CPTBadAss suggested it. I was a tiny bit dissappointed at first because I had to push really hard to get much flex, but after some fiddling and dremeling, I got it working pretty nicely. I also ordered around 20 ink samples through Goulet and find that I really love the Yama Budo (I knew I would!)

Anyway, here is where I'm at!

(http://i.imgur.com/5HKTC1f.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NcTS0TU.jpg)

This shows the line variation I'm able to get with the Noodler's Ahab after a bit of nib tweaking.
(http://i.imgur.com/tI5l0t3.jpg)

I tend to write the same letter over and over and over again until I get it how I like it before writing a word.
(http://i.imgur.com/uzrjglz.jpg)


This shows the nib that I dremeled down. There are a couple ways to do it, according to google. It was intimidating at first but pretty simple.
(http://i.imgur.com/Eq38ghj.jpg)

And here is just something I did by a lamp while my power was out. outlined in Noodler's blue black, filled in with prismacolor marker. The thick/thin lines were inspired by my new love for flexin!
(http://i.imgur.com/OaurbTt.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:25:03
Gaaaah, I love writing now! I've been doodling/practicing off and on pretty much all day everyday. SO! here is a little photo dump -

I got a Noodler's Ahab because I wanted to try a flex pen for a decent price so CPTBadAss suggested it. I was a tiny bit dissappointed at first because I had to push really hard to get much flex, but after some fiddling and dremeling, I got it working pretty nicely. I also ordered around 20 ink samples through Goulet and find that I really love the Yama Budo (I knew I would!)

Anyway, here is where I'm at!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5HKTC1f.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NcTS0TU.jpg)


This shows the line variation I'm able to get with the Noodler's Ahab after a bit of nib tweaking.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tI5l0t3.jpg)


I tend to write the same letter over and over and over again until I get it how I like it before writing a word.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uzrjglz.jpg)



This shows the nib that I dremeled down. There are a couple ways to do it, according to google. It was intimidating at first but pretty simple.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Eq38ghj.jpg)


And here is just something I did by a lamp while my power was out. outlined in Noodler's blue black, filled in with prismacolor marker. The thick/thin lines were inspired by my new love for flexin!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OaurbTt.jpg)




 :eek:  WOW  :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:42:22
Gaaaah, I love writing now! I've been doodling/practicing off and on pretty much all day everyday. SO! here is a little photo dump -

I got a Noodler's Ahab because I wanted to try a flex pen for a decent price so CPTBadAss suggested it. I was a tiny bit dissappointed at first because I had to push really hard to get much flex, but after some fiddling and dremeling, I got it working pretty nicely. I also ordered around 20 ink samples through Goulet and find that I really love the Yama Budo (I knew I would!)

Anyway, here is where I'm at!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5HKTC1f.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NcTS0TU.jpg)


This shows the line variation I'm able to get with the Noodler's Ahab after a bit of nib tweaking.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tI5l0t3.jpg)


I tend to write the same letter over and over and over again until I get it how I like it before writing a word.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uzrjglz.jpg)



This shows the nib that I dremeled down. There are a couple ways to do it, according to google. It was intimidating at first but pretty simple.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Eq38ghj.jpg)


And here is just something I did by a lamp while my power was out. outlined in Noodler's blue black, filled in with prismacolor marker. The thick/thin lines were inspired by my new love for flexin!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OaurbTt.jpg)


I feel so small and pathetic in the presence of such skillz.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sorijealut on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:48:19
-Booper's amazing artwork-

Oh ma gah...  :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Fri, 08 May 2015, 23:25:44
Gaaaah, I love writing now! I've been doodling/practicing off and on pretty much all day everyday. SO! here is a little photo dump -

I got a Noodler's Ahab because I wanted to try a flex pen for a decent price so CPTBadAss suggested it. I was a tiny bit dissappointed at first because I had to push really hard to get much flex, but after some fiddling and dremeling, I got it working pretty nicely. I also ordered around 20 ink samples through Goulet and find that I really love the Yama Budo (I knew I would!)

Anyway, here is where I'm at!

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(http://i.imgur.com/5HKTC1f.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/NcTS0TU.jpg)


This shows the line variation I'm able to get with the Noodler's Ahab after a bit of nib tweaking.
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(http://i.imgur.com/tI5l0t3.jpg)


I tend to write the same letter over and over and over again until I get it how I like it before writing a word.
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(http://i.imgur.com/uzrjglz.jpg)



This shows the nib that I dremeled down. There are a couple ways to do it, according to google. It was intimidating at first but pretty simple.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Eq38ghj.jpg)


And here is just something I did by a lamp while my power was out. outlined in Noodler's blue black, filled in with prismacolor marker. The thick/thin lines were inspired by my new love for flexin!
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damnnn, that's some lovely writing, booper.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:59:06
Gaaaah, I love writing now! I've been doodling/practicing off and on pretty much all day everyday. SO! here is a little photo dump -

I got a Noodler's Ahab because I wanted to try a flex pen for a decent price so CPTBadAss suggested it. I was a tiny bit dissappointed at first because I had to push really hard to get much flex, but after some fiddling and dremeling, I got it working pretty nicely. I also ordered around 20 ink samples through Goulet and find that I really love the Yama Budo (I knew I would!)

Anyway, here is where I'm at!

More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5HKTC1f.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NcTS0TU.jpg)


This shows the line variation I'm able to get with the Noodler's Ahab after a bit of nib tweaking.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tI5l0t3.jpg)


I tend to write the same letter over and over and over again until I get it how I like it before writing a word.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uzrjglz.jpg)



This shows the nib that I dremeled down. There are a couple ways to do it, according to google. It was intimidating at first but pretty simple.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Eq38ghj.jpg)


And here is just something I did by a lamp while my power was out. outlined in Noodler's blue black, filled in with prismacolor marker. The thick/thin lines were inspired by my new love for flexin!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OaurbTt.jpg)


Awesome! :)

I wish my writing was 1/10 as good as that with a fountain pen!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Sat, 09 May 2015, 13:28:44
Thanks for the kind words! I am glad I discovered this fountain pen thread which gave me motivation to practice my writing. I've always wanted nice handwriting even though most people think it's pointless these days :) I should probably start practicing my print now too because I'm terrible at that. haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Sat, 09 May 2015, 13:31:34
Thanks for the kind words! I am glad I discovered this fountain pen thread which gave me motivation to practice my writing. I've always wanted nice handwriting even though most people think it's pointless these days :) I should probably start practicing my print now too because I'm terrible at that. haha.

Get to work on your print. It's important :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Sat, 09 May 2015, 14:09:14
Massdrop pulled through on an amazing Visconti deal only to give me the wrong nib!  Oh well... still gotta take pics :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/vWeX8Z8.jpg)


Those are both gorgeous pens, Binge.  Do you have the MD link for that drop?  I missed it, and would like to get on the request list so I get notified if it becomes active again.  I tried searching on MD and couldn't find it.  Thanks much!  (also if you decide to let one of them go, and need a buyer - please PM me  :thumb: )
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 17:36:56
More
Gaaaah, I love writing now! I've been doodling/practicing off and on pretty much all day everyday. SO! here is a little photo dump -

I got a Noodler's Ahab because I wanted to try a flex pen for a decent price so CPTBadAss suggested it. I was a tiny bit dissappointed at first because I had to push really hard to get much flex, but after some fiddling and dremeling, I got it working pretty nicely. I also ordered around 20 ink samples through Goulet and find that I really love the Yama Budo (I knew I would!)

Anyway, here is where I'm at!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5HKTC1f.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NcTS0TU.jpg)


This shows the line variation I'm able to get with the Noodler's Ahab after a bit of nib tweaking.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tI5l0t3.jpg)


I tend to write the same letter over and over and over again until I get it how I like it before writing a word.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uzrjglz.jpg)



This shows the nib that I dremeled down. There are a couple ways to do it, according to google. It was intimidating at first but pretty simple.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Eq38ghj.jpg)


And here is just something I did by a lamp while my power was out. outlined in Noodler's blue black, filled in with prismacolor marker. The thick/thin lines were inspired by my new love for flexin!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OaurbTt.jpg)


That feather is so ****ing great :D.

Hi guys, are there any general but important pointers to help improve your handwriting?

Like what kind of mental image should I have/ do you point the pen up straight / grip it firmly / do you focus on your elbow, etc.

edit: I guess the question's a little broad, since I don't own a fountain pen yet and I'm just practicing with my normal .3 and .5 pen :P

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1606461#msg1606461

In addition to that post, I'd focus on proper handwriting holding. Hold the pen at a proper angle (as close to 45 deg as you can) with a tri grip. Unless you're doing calligraphy, I wouldn't worry about using your whole arm. Try to loosen your grip as much as you can because a firm grip leads to really heavy handed letters and often very tight letters. Just write a lot and get a feel for what does and doesn't work for you. There's tons of youtube advice and stuff on FountainPenNetwork. But unfortunately, I actually had handwriting classes and my parents forced me to work on my handwriting so I don't really have any easy links and information for you to check out. I kind of grew up with it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sat, 09 May 2015, 17:53:27
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Oh my ffing god, a really beautiful handwriting. Man I love your letters that are in red. Looks really fine and elegant. I also need to practice, but I can't get those lone letters out of my writing. This'll be my motivation ^^
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Sat, 09 May 2015, 17:57:07
Quote from: CPTBadAss

Try to loosen your grip as much as you can because a firm grip leads to really heavy handed letters and often very tight letters.
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I read a tip somewhere that helped me to loosen my grip. Periodically, like before a new sentence, just tap your index finger lightly three times on the pen, like you are tapping the ash from a cigarette. You'll feel the muscles in the rest of your hand relax. Just a little thing that helped me!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sorijealut on Sat, 09 May 2015, 18:17:02
Hi guys, are there any general but important pointers to help improve your handwriting?

Like what kind of mental image should I have/ do you point the pen up straight / grip it firmly / do you focus on your elbow, etc.

edit: I guess the question's a little broad, since I don't own a fountain pen yet and I'm just practicing with my normal .3 and .5 pen :P

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1606461#msg1606461

In addition to that post, I'd focus on proper handwriting holding. Hold the pen at a proper angle (as close to 45 deg as you can) with a tri grip. Unless you're doing calligraphy, I wouldn't worry about using your whole arm. Try to loosen your grip as much as you can because a firm grip leads to really heavy handed letters and often very tight letters. Just write a lot and get a feel for what does and doesn't work for you. There's tons of youtube advice and stuff on FountainPenNetwork. But unfortunately, I actually had handwriting classes and my parents forced me to work on my handwriting so I don't really have any easy links and information for you to check out. I kind of grew up with it.

Just the advice I've been looking for. It's probably more about practice, and practicing towards what you want it to look like, huh? I've been trying to just have a consistent and neat handwriting.
Really like what you said about a loose grip. I've been holding it at a straight angle and gripping it way too tight. Appreciate the references and I"ll be sure to check those out.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 18:19:42
sorijealut, glad you thought my post was helpful :). If you're not shy, please post your practice here and we can critique it. I've posted a little about the changes in my cursive that I've made. And I'm probably going to steal some letters from Booper. The other thing I didn't mention is that your handwriting will forever be changing based on what works for you at that time and what doesn't. Nothing wrong with that at all!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 09 May 2015, 22:32:41
Stole *cough cough* borrowed some letters from Booper and decided to do some practice at flexing. I have to admit that some letters gives me quite a bit of problem, still figuring things out.

[(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8783/17472171002_7d141d46a4_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Sun, 10 May 2015, 01:55:45
Stole *cough cough* borrowed some letters from Booper and decided to do some practice at flexing. I have to admit that some letters gives me quite a bit of problem, still figuring things out.

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Looking good! I love that F and the N is pretty sweet too. I hate doing M and N :(  All these cool alphabets make me want to make fonts out of GH handwriting samples

I know railroading isn't technically good, but I love the way it makes a letter look like it has outlines. I wonder if there is a pen for doing that style of lettering?

You can *borrow* any of my letters you like!

Hi guys, are there any general but important pointers to help improve your handwriting?

Like what kind of mental image should I have/ do you point the pen up straight / grip it firmly / do you focus on your elbow, etc.

edit: I guess the question's a little broad, since I don't own a fountain pen yet and I'm just practicing with my normal .3 and .5 pen :P

I'm not expert at fountain pens or handwriting, but I do know some things about type / fonts which I think have helped me with my handwriting. I made a little explanation of some basic "typography anatomy" and things to think about as far as overall aesthetic of your writing go.  I think it's easier to explain things visually so I made this!

(http://i.imgur.com/iXqFxAx.jpg)


Also, I like to browse google images for calligraphy/script fonts to come up with ideas on new ways to make letters interesting. If I'm trying to make a fancy quote and I'm nervous about spacing and such, I'll lightly sketch it out in pencil first and practice making small "thumbnails" to figure out how I want to do my lettering. I did a little evolution of the word "handwriting" in the top corner showing how you can take the base word, analyze it, and add more flair to it. I'm not a huge fan of how the "d" came out in that set, but o well.

In the bottom left corner I took a simple base line and tried to show how you can manipulate the same base stroke to make different letters in varying degrees of fanciness. Several of the letters in the alphabet start with some variation of a long downstroke so you can come up with one line style you feel comfortable with and use it to give your handwriting more consistency.


Hope this helps! :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sorijealut on Sun, 10 May 2015, 01:58:36
Hi guys, are there any general but important pointers to help improve your handwriting?

Like what kind of mental image should I have/ do you point the pen up straight / grip it firmly / do you focus on your elbow, etc.

edit: I guess the question's a little broad, since I don't own a fountain pen yet and I'm just practicing with my normal .3 and .5 pen :P

I'm not expert at fountain pens or handwriting, but I do know some things about type / fonts which I think have helped me with my handwriting. I made a little explanation of some basic "typography anatomy" and things to think about as far as overall aesthetic of your writing go.  I think it's easier to explain things visually so I made this!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iXqFxAx.jpg)



Also, I like to browse google images for calligraphy/script fonts to come up with ideas on new ways to make letters interesting. If I'm trying to make a fancy quote and I'm nervous about spacing and such, I'll lightly sketch it out in pencil first and practice making small "thumbnails" to figure out how I want to do my lettering. I did a little evolution of the word "handwriting" in the top corner showing how you can take the base word, analyze it, and add more flair to it. I'm not a huge fan of how the "d" came out in that set, but o well.

In the bottom left corner I took a simple base line and tried to show how you can manipulate the same base stroke to make different letters in varying degrees of fanciness. Several of the letters in the alphabet start with some variation of a long downstroke so you can come up with one line style you feel comfortable with and use it to give your handwriting more consistency.


Hope this helps! :D

Is it okay to fall in love with someone online?

WOOOah...
I was at a loss for words lol.
This is so professionally made and I can see the effort you put into making this...
This guide itself is an artwork!

So it's easier to break it up into different strokes!
It would be perfect for a GH Handwriting guide in the original post!! Thanks Booper!!
THANKS guys for all the kindness...!


sorijealut, glad you thought my post was helpful :). If you're not shy, please post your practice here and we can critique it. I've posted a little about the changes in my cursive that I've made. And I'm probably going to steal some letters from Booper. The other thing I didn't mention is that your handwriting will forever be changing based on what works for you at that time and what doesn't. Nothing wrong with that at all!

Thanks friend! Will do so if I can build up enough courage sometime :P cheers!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 02:15:01
There isn't a pen that specifically railroads. I think most people add those lines in afterwards as flourishes. Also I see you Booper. Student became the master.

Here's my alphabet. My flourish game is so weak compared to Boop's.


(http://i.imgur.com/PNz5poq.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Sun, 10 May 2015, 02:27:48

Is it okay to fall in love with someone online?

WOOOah...
I was at a loss for words lol.
This is so professionally made and I can see the effort you put into making this...
This guide itself is an artwork!

So it's easier to break it up into different strokes!
It would be perfect for a GH Handwriting guide in the original post!! Thanks Booper!!
THANKS guys for all the kindness...!


*blushes*

Thanks! I'm glad you think it's cool! I started to respond to you with some info about type that overlaps with handwriting, but I thought it would be easier to just show it. And I enjoy this sort of thing!

There isn't a pen that specifically railroads. I think most people add those lines in afterwards as flourishes. Also I see you Booper. Student became the master.

Yea, I tried to get my ahab to railroad with some sort of consistency but it just kept drying out :(

And I'm not a master by any means!  :eek:  I've been working with type for a long time and I enjoy drawing so with some cool pens and inspiration it was only a matter of time before I got into writing!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 May 2015, 02:29:50
Completely random side note? I kinda got into type because of a documentary I watched and I'm trying to incorporate it into Tactile. It's been fun mashing up graffiti styles, handwriting, and typography into one project :).

And LOL that's funny. Everyone else is trying to get away from railroading and you're trying to induce it!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 10 May 2015, 02:56:26
Great guide Booper, there are some letters that really puzzled me for flex writing (mainly on where the swells and hairlines should be), and I haven't actually sat down and thought properly about it. Having an alphabet written out really helps.

annoyingly, the FA nib from Pilot railroads rather consistently with drier inks (such as the Pelikan Brown I have in it right now). Using the wetter Pilot inks alleviates the problem significantly, but I was getting bored with the blue-black (only Pilot ink I have atm, heh).

Added a sample where I induced railroading on purpose - which happens on a fairly consistent basis. I'm probably sending the pen off next week for a nibmeister to make some adjustments.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5456/16858235674_b319ac6c95_z.jpg)


For that railroad effect you want, I believe there are actually dip nibs that does parallel lines, but they don't spread and close like flex pens does.

On a side note, I believe that it is possible achieve railroading with the ahab. Without doing further physical mods to the nib, try diluting your ink slightly. The main cause of railroading is due to the inability to hold an unbroken 'film' of ink while flexing; the ink is still getting to the nib, but is unable to maintain the film.

Theoretically, wetter, viscous inks tend to do better for flexing, which is why dip pens use india ink or fountain pen ink thickened with gum arabic (don't do this with fountain pens. it'll dry and ruin your pens).  Thus, if the ink lacks viscosity, the film breaks and should result in railroads.

I believe your attempts resulted in drying out due to the tines separating to a point where the film breaks, but at the same time, the ink is no longer able to reach the tips of the nib.


@ CBA - I like that F and the L you have there.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:26:29
Massdrop pulled through on an amazing Visconti deal only to give me the wrong nib!  Oh well... still gotta take pics :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/vWeX8Z8.jpg)


Those are both gorgeous pens, Binge.  Do you have the MD link for that drop?  I missed it, and would like to get on the request list so I get notified if it becomes active again.  I tried searching on MD and couldn't find it.  Thanks much!  (also if you decide to let one of them go, and need a buyer - please PM me  :thumb: )

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/visconti-homo-sapiens-florentine-hills?mode=guest_open

I'd be happy to let you know if I am down on my luck and these need a better home :p  I'm looking to prevent that sort of eventuality, and I hope massdrop runs these again.  At their reduced price they are quite attractive.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retrochick on Sun, 10 May 2015, 22:30:29
Just recently got into fountain pens and love it. Will probably buy more pens, heh. Still trying to decide on the best ink - right now I've got some samples to play with. Obtained a Sheaffer Balance and a Hero Spring Pastel and have been using them as my sketch pens  :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/GPISfwE.jpg?1)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 11 May 2015, 12:56:25
Just recently got into fountain pens and love it. Will probably buy more pens, heh. Still trying to decide on the best ink - right now I've got some samples to play with. Obtained a Sheaffer Balance and a Hero Spring Pastel and have been using them as my sketch pens  :thumb:
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(http://i.imgur.com/GPISfwE.jpg?1)

<Mod edit>

Wouldn't it be nice if cylinders weren't so confusing?  It begs the unspeakable question if anyone has made this mistake with any pen.  Speaking of similarities.  I've almost put a pizza into my dish cabinet simply because it was shaped kind of like a plate.  The oven was preheated.  Don't know what in Zenu came over me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Mon, 11 May 2015, 13:02:49
Just recently got into fountain pens and love it. Will probably buy more pens, heh. Still trying to decide on the best ink - right now I've got some samples to play with. Obtained a Sheaffer Balance and a Hero Spring Pastel and have been using them as my sketch pens  :thumb:
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(http://i.imgur.com/GPISfwE.jpg?1)

<Mod Edit>

Wouldn't it be nice if cylinders weren't so confusing.  It begs the unspeakable question if anyone has made this mistake with any pen.  Similarities aside.  I've almost put a pizza into my dish cabinet simply because it was shaped kind of like a plate.  The oven was preheated.  Don't know what in Zenu came over me.

I wouldn't doubt that it has happened.  Hell, last week I found my tortilla chips in the fridge, and that doesn't even have a shape-based logic to it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Tue, 12 May 2015, 18:55:29
Hey guys! I'm looking to get my first pen!

I like how fountain pens look, and mainly if I spend money on a pen I will always have a writing utensil and hopefully this will improve my writing

So I have a few...

Requirements!!
-Strong, like every day carry strong. This thing needs to be a friggin tank. Most likely a metal case
-Inexpensive, but not like cheap

I'm looking at either the Lamy Safari (dem colors do) or the Pilot Metropolitan (metal case). Any other recommendations?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:44:41
If you want edc strong, I'd go with the Safari. If you ding or scratch up the Metro, it'll show in the paint. What exactly is your budget. "inexpensive but cheap" could be $5 to $150
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:50:33
like $25-30

Is the metro just painted and not metal?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:06:14
It's brass with some form of coating. I believe whatever that coating is (could be paint) can chip off. Don't get me wrong I love my Metro a lot but I'd go for a Safari. Those things are indestructible. Easily the two best starter pens right now.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Tue, 12 May 2015, 21:07:03
red ferrari safari it is, what tip size would you recommend?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 21:10:05
red ferrari safari it is, what tip size would you recommend?

Um lol. That's completely on your taste. I laugh because I like broads and stub nibs so I'd say a Broad or 1.1mm. But most people like extra fine, fine, or medium. Do you like thin or thick lines?

Edit: I have a fine Safari nib so if you want to get an EF or M and decide you want something different, let me know.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retainerbox on Wed, 13 May 2015, 14:17:07
red ferrari safari it is, what tip size would you recommend?

Um lol. That's completely on your taste. I laugh because I like broads and stub nibs so I'd say a Broad or 1.1mm. But most people like extra fine, fine, or medium. Do you like thin or thick lines?

Edit: I have a fine Safari nib so if you want to get an EF or M and decide you want something different, let me know.

Like CPT said, it's up to you. There's a really good resource called the Nib Nook at Goulet Pens which give you a very good overview of the different sizes though. http://www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook (http://www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Wed, 13 May 2015, 15:56:38
red ferrari safari it is, what tip size would you recommend?

Um lol. That's completely on your taste. I laugh because I like broads and stub nibs so I'd say a Broad or 1.1mm. But most people like extra fine, fine, or medium. Do you like thin or thick lines?

Edit: I have a fine Safari nib so if you want to get an EF or M and decide you want something different, let me know.



Like CPT said, it's up to you. There's a really good resource called the Nib Nook at Goulet Pens which give you a very good overview of the different sizes though.

http://www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook (http://www.gouletpens.com/nib-nook)

awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 13 May 2015, 16:44:21
(http://i.imgur.com/AJjD5WG.jpg)

Birdy babies are just tiny dragons.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Xowie on Thu, 14 May 2015, 20:01:57
My favorite notebooks that I use for everything (work, home, etc), fountain pen that I wish I used a bit more, and more workhorse pen.[attach=1]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 15 May 2015, 01:57:34
I love the stargazer so much xowie. And mmm clairfontaine.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 20 May 2015, 18:55:32
Got my Twsbi mini from demik, it's great. Perfect size when posted, also.

Can someone recommend some quality paper/notebooks?



And the worst part about demik introducing me to fountain pens, is that I'm already looking at more fountain pens to buy in the future... :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 20 May 2015, 18:57:14
Got my Twsbi mini from demik, it's great. Perfect size when posted, also.

Can someone recommend some quality paper/notebooks?



And the worst part about demik introducing me to fountain pens, is that I'm already looking at more fountain pens to buy in the future... :eek:

That's a damn good pen to start with. Paper? I like SN2, Rhodia, Clairefontaine, and Tomoe River. There is some lower end office paper that I've used at work that is nice. I can dig out the names out if you want.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 21 May 2015, 01:12:04
After posting in the "What did you get in the mail today" thread, I'm feeling self-conscious about my handwriting now...Someone show me their terrible handwriting so I can feel better about my self...  :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Thu, 21 May 2015, 01:29:40
Bro, you have the perfect pen to practice with. Try picking up some books on Amazon on writing and just practice practice practice.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 21 May 2015, 02:28:12
I'm curious, what do you use as your main pen, demik?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 21 May 2015, 03:41:50
I would say every handwiriting is beautiful on its own as it tells how you are or how you feel :) So don't worry about your handwriting style, mine is also not that good (at least I think so), but it is what it is. If you want to change, you just have to practice practice and get it into muscle memory (I think, isn't it?).
Is this TWSBI mini a piston-filler pen or does it use cartridges/aeromatic filler?


I would love to get some help for my pen. I recently bought a Kaweco Sport and used the cartridge that was enclosed in the package. Now it's empty and I got a new one, as I cannot buy the cartridges of Kaweco in a shop here (although I'm frm Germany) I searched for another and found that the Pelikan were pretty close compared to sizes. I've read that you can "just" change the cartridges and don't necessarily need to clean the pen because of the change. But somehow the ink flow is really slow and the longer I write the lesser ink comes out. If I let the pen lie still for a while the ink is much more present, but soon after I write it starts to get out lesser than before. Do I need to clean the pen or is it possible to put 1-2 drops of water onto the nib? The change with the cartridge is easy, I didn't really got something wrong I think (the cartridge plopped as a the signal the cartridge was opened up). I use my pen almost daily, but with this ink flow problem I haven't been using it that much as it gets too stressful for my hand to write (I'm left-handed, so the strain on my hand is high to begin with).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 21 May 2015, 04:56:29
I would say every handwiriting is beautiful on its own as it tells how you are or how you feel :) So don't worry about your handwriting style, mine is also not that good (at least I think so), but it is what it is. If you want to change, you just have to practice practice and get it into muscle memory (I think, isn't it?).
Is this TWSBI mini a piston-filler pen or does it use cartridges/aeromatic filler?


I would love to get some help for my pen. I recently bought a Kaweco Sport and used the cartridge that was enclosed in the package. Now it's empty and I got a new one, as I cannot buy the cartridges of Kaweco in a shop here (although I'm frm Germany) I searched for another and found that the Pelikan were pretty close compared to sizes. I've read that you can "just" change the cartridges and don't necessarily need to clean the pen because of the change. But somehow the ink flow is really slow and the longer I write the lesser ink comes out. If I let the pen lie still for a while the ink is much more present, but soon after I write it starts to get out lesser than before. Do I need to clean the pen or is it possible to put 1-2 drops of water onto the nib? The change with the cartridge is easy, I didn't really got something wrong I think (the cartridge plopped as a the signal the cartridge was opened up). I use my pen almost daily, but with this ink flow problem I haven't been using it that much as it gets too stressful for my hand to write (I'm left-handed, so the strain on my hand is high to begin with).
The Twsbi is a piston filler.


And try getting some warm/cold water and rinsing out the nib of the pen, I heard paper fibers can cause a build up in their. Or maybe ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 21 May 2015, 05:30:33
I would say every handwiriting is beautiful on its own as it tells how you are or how you feel :) So don't worry about your handwriting style, mine is also not that good (at least I think so), but it is what it is. If you want to change, you just have to practice practice and get it into muscle memory (I think, isn't it?).
Is this TWSBI mini a piston-filler pen or does it use cartridges/aeromatic filler?


I would love to get some help for my pen. I recently bought a Kaweco Sport and used the cartridge that was enclosed in the package. Now it's empty and I got a new one, as I cannot buy the cartridges of Kaweco in a shop here (although I'm frm Germany) I searched for another and found that the Pelikan were pretty close compared to sizes. I've read that you can "just" change the cartridges and don't necessarily need to clean the pen because of the change. But somehow the ink flow is really slow and the longer I write the lesser ink comes out. If I let the pen lie still for a while the ink is much more present, but soon after I write it starts to get out lesser than before. Do I need to clean the pen or is it possible to put 1-2 drops of water onto the nib? The change with the cartridge is easy, I didn't really got something wrong I think (the cartridge plopped as a the signal the cartridge was opened up). I use my pen almost daily, but with this ink flow problem I haven't been using it that much as it gets too stressful for my hand to write (I'm left-handed, so the strain on my hand is high to begin with).

Clean the pen and flush the nib and feed out completely.

You usually don't have to clean the pen if you're using the same ink. But as every manufacturer's ink have different properties, mixing them can sometimes result in them chemically reacting in undesirable ways due to different pH values. I've no idea what Kaweco inks are like in relation to Pelikan inks, but I've accidentally mixed waterman and pelikan inks together once, and actually had some solid gunk forming in the resulting mixture. I didn't have the mixture in the pen, but if I did, it would probably have clogged up the feed pretty badly. It did leave some lasting stains in the vial I mixed them in, which was of course, discarded entirely.

Consider reusing empty cartridges? Get a bottle of ink you like, a broad needle syringe and refill away. Though, keep in mind that cartridges will start to crack and loosen at the mouth after a few cycles, and will have to be replaced.

Also, the pelikan inks (or at least the ones they sell in cartridges) tend to be a rather dry ink. Its not a bad ink for left-handers (I'm a southpaw too) due to how quickly they dry on the page, but I find most of their inks to fade out poorly to very washed out colors. Out of curiosity, do you have a smudging problem as you write?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 21 May 2015, 10:08:32
Thanks for the replies, I'll try to clean it up later today or tomorrow. Is it okay, if I clean it at night like 10pm and start using it the next day at 10am? I've read something like a 24hrs pause is needed to make the cleaning thourough. I'm not quite sure.
I'll start with the warm/cold water and if it doesn't help I'll clean it properly.

@Larken
Yeah I start smudging while I write, with the Kaweco cartridge it was all fine no smudging. As I tend to have a lil sweaty hands while writing long texts I need some drier ink. CPTBadAss recommended me the Pelikan Edelstein Ink, so I thought I can try one cartridge of some Pelikan ink as I couldn't find this specific family of Pelikan. Because I thought this should also be drier than other inks.
And it's just like you described, the colors seem really washed out after some writing until it's really difficult to write as it seems the ink doesn't want to come out and it's more washed out. Kind of a bummer, seems like tha Pelikan is too dry for the pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 21 May 2015, 10:46:36
Thanks for the replies, I'll try to clean it up later today or tomorrow. Is it okay, if I clean it at night like 10pm and start using it the next day at 10am? I've read something like a 24hrs pause is needed to make the cleaning thourough. I'm not quite sure.


More than enough time. I regularly ink up pens less than 15 minutes after a thorough flush (and using a paper towel to absorb moisture from the nib and feed), but if you can spare the time for it to air out after flushing, it would be better. Not sure how you're going to flush the pen without a convertor though, unless you're using a bulb syringe or something.

Yeah I start smudging while I write, with the Kaweco cartridge it was all fine no smudging. As I tend to have a lil sweaty hands while writing long texts I need some drier ink. CPTBadAss recommended me the Pelikan Edelstein Ink, so I thought I can try one cartridge of some Pelikan ink as I couldn't find this specific family of Pelikan. Because I thought this should also be drier than other inks.
And it's just like you described, the colors seem really washed out after some writing until it's really difficult to write as it seems the ink doesn't want to come out and it's more washed out. Kind of a bummer, seems like tha Pelikan is too dry for the pen.


I haven't tried the Edelstein line, but I believe they're slight wetter than the Pelikan 4001 line, which is usually what's in the cartridges. But what you're describing doesn't seem like the fault of the ink itself; it may be that your feed may be slightly clogged; While the 4001 line does tend to get complaints of looking washed out after drying, it is a generally well behaved ink in most pens.

If you could provide a writing sample, it might clarify things.

 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Thu, 21 May 2015, 11:00:44
I'm curious, what do you use as your main pen, demik?

Right now? Plain ol' Pilot Dr. Grip.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 21 May 2015, 18:03:18
Thanks for the replies, I'll try to clean it up later today or tomorrow. Is it okay, if I clean it at night like 10pm and start using it the next day at 10am? I've read something like a 24hrs pause is needed to make the cleaning thourough. I'm not quite sure.


More than enough time. I regularly ink up pens less than 15 minutes after a thorough flush (and using a paper towel to absorb moisture from the nib and feed), but if you can spare the time for it to air out after flushing, it would be better. Not sure how you're going to flush the pen without a convertor though, unless you're using a bulb syringe or something.


Alright, I don't think I'll get to it right now, but I try tomorrow. That sounds very good to me, if it is alright to use it quicker rather than waiting for more then half a day.  :thumb: I wanted to try to use a syringe for cleaning. If I don't find one I wanted to look at this site rickconner (http://www.rickconner.net/penspotters/troubleshooting.html) as it seems quite informative and have some alternatives to a syringe. I also read there it is possible just to drop some drops of water onto the nib and this could already do the trick. I'll see tomorrow.

Yeah I start smudging while I write, with the Kaweco cartridge it was all fine no smudging. As I tend to have a lil sweaty hands while writing long texts I need some drier ink. CPTBadAss recommended me the Pelikan Edelstein Ink, so I thought I can try one cartridge of some Pelikan ink as I couldn't find this specific family of Pelikan. Because I thought this should also be drier than other inks.
And it's just like you described, the colors seem really washed out after some writing until it's really difficult to write as it seems the ink doesn't want to come out and it's more washed out. Kind of a bummer, seems like tha Pelikan is too dry for the pen.


I haven't tried the Edelstein line, but I believe they're slight wetter than the Pelikan 4001 line, which is usually what's in the cartridges. But what you're describing doesn't seem like the fault of the ink itself; it may be that your feed may be slightly clogged; While the 4001 line does tend to get complaints of looking washed out after drying, it is a generally well behaved ink in most pens.

If you could provide a writing sample, it might clarify things.

I can do that tomorrow. I'll photocopy one of my lectures, there you'll see the difference. I'm glad that you said it, I am using the Pelikan 4001 line. I was just at my university and didn't have any catridge box with me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: morpheus on Fri, 22 May 2015, 21:22:44
Just got a Metropolitan with Namiki Blue....it's about time to join this club.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 22 May 2015, 21:48:02
why won't twsbi release a white rosegold in 580 :(

ah damn it just noticed even the mini is sold out

ITS SO PRETTY.

going to have to get a red 580, didn't even know they had different colors now.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 22 May 2015, 21:58:48
why won't twsbi release a white rosegold in 580 :(

ah damn it just noticed even the mini is sold out

ITS SO PRETTY.

going to have to get a red 580, didn't even know they had different colors now.
Mmmm, white gold...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/9633/products/mini_white_with_rose_gold_trim_1024x1024.jpg?v=1407286124)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 22 May 2015, 22:02:46
now if it only it was 580 size but noooooo only black rose gold. damn you twsbi.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 22 May 2015, 22:49:54
now if it only it was 580 size but noooooo only black rose gold. damn you twsbi.
Do you write with a 580 posted or unposted? If posted, that's rather large. If not then it's about the same as the mini, is it not?

Or is it the just ink capacity?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 22 May 2015, 23:00:45
why won't twsbi release a white rosegold in 580 :(

ah damn it just noticed even the mini is sold out

ITS SO PRETTY.

going to have to get a red 580, didn't even know they had different colors now.
Mmmm, white gold...
Show Image
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/9633/products/mini_white_with_rose_gold_trim_1024x1024.jpg?v=1407286124)


Damn, I need one of those.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 22 May 2015, 23:18:30
now if it only it was 580 size but noooooo only black rose gold. damn you twsbi.
Do you write with a 580 posted or unposted? If posted, that's rather large. If not then it's about the same as the mini, is it not?

Or is it the just ink capacity?

i haven't used a 580 yet, and honestly it has more to do with how it looks in my pen case. it's a stupid reason, i know, but i hate how it doesn't look the same size as the rest of my stuff lol.

why won't twsbi release a white rosegold in 580 :(

ah damn it just noticed even the mini is sold out

ITS SO PRETTY.

going to have to get a red 580, didn't even know they had different colors now.
Mmmm, white gold...
Show Image
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/9633/products/mini_white_with_rose_gold_trim_1024x1024.jpg?v=1407286124)


Damn, I need one of those.

right??
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 23 May 2015, 19:51:32
There's a drop on Pilot Metropolitan pens: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-mr-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open

Are these good?  I ask because it is two for a really low price, compared to about 4 times the price for one of a different pen.

Also can you refill these from a bottle of ink, or do you need special cartridges?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: byker on Sat, 23 May 2015, 20:05:46
It is a decent price I think, depending on shipping to your area. For example that is $29 USD for me, but I could get 2 shipped via amazon prime for $34ish CAD and have them on Tuesday. I quite enjoy my metropolitan, although it is my only FP so I am a bit of a noob. You do not need special catridges, although you can use a catridge. I just have a bottle of purple ink to refill mine with. :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:08:41
There's a drop on Pilot Metropolitan pens: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pilot-mr-fountain-pen?mode=guest_open

Are these good?  I ask because it is two for a really low price, compared to about 4 times the price for one of a different pen.

Also can you refill these from a bottle of ink, or do you need special cartridges?

Both. You can do cartridge or get a converter.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:21:33
very good pens for the money. the ones from massdrop should come with a squeeze convertor for filling from ink bottles.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 23 May 2015, 23:25:49
Both. You can do cartridge or get a converter.

very good pens for the money. the ones from massdrop should come with a squeeze convertor for filling from ink bottles.

I'm guessing that from MD you get the pen and a (second?) cartridge in that neato box.

Is the squeeze converter a separate purchase?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: byker on Sat, 23 May 2015, 23:27:29
It comes with the squeeze converter and one catridge if it is the same packaging as the amazon ones (which it looks like it is).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 24 May 2015, 00:38:49
Mine came with the pen, a cartridge and the squeeze convertor in the box (also from MD). Personally not a big fan of the squeeze convertor, since you can't see how much ink there is left. Not a huge issue though; just carry around a second pen :D

There's the con-50 piston convertor (note a slightly smaller ink capacity for that) you can get from elsewhere (MD doesn't give an option for that unfortunately), which is also easier to clean if you tend to switch inks around often (squeeze convertors are difficult to clean completely in my experience; but not an issue if you intend to keep the same ink in it all the time).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 May 2015, 02:59:51
Thanks guys :)

I'd be unlikely to change the ink - probably sticking with black.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Sun, 24 May 2015, 03:16:54
But that's the beauty of fp. So many inks to choose from!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 24 May 2015, 05:11:42
Like a moron, I scratched up my cap to my mini, but thankfully Twsbi is awesome and they are going to have some spares in a few weeks I can get.  :)


<3 you twsbi.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Sun, 24 May 2015, 06:56:43
Twsbi ftw.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 26 May 2015, 03:18:04
So I finally came around and cleaned my pen with a syringe. It was easier than I thought and I let it dry over night. Writes like charm right now. So it definately was an ink issue. I just wrote half a site and the ink didn't look washed out after awhile.

Some wanted a pic of how it looked. Unfortunately the picture didn't capture the washed out ink, in the flesh (do you say it like that?) it looks much more washed out and harder to write. It should be a dark blue ish ink, but it looks more grey than dark blue.
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Regarding the Pilot Metropolitan drop at Massdrop, I compared the nibs at gouletpens and the medium and fine nibs didn't differ much really. I compared it to a Kaweco Sport fine and the fine of a Pilot is much more thinner. I'm not sure anymore, but did someone of you made a pic about the Pilot Metropolitans nibs some time ago?
It's still correct to think that the Pilot with a fine nib wont really "scratch" the paper while writing? From the comparison I did at gouletpens it would be smart to get the medium nibs rather than the fine nibs. I'm not really convinced of that comparison, as the Kaweco Sport fine and medium nibs look very similar. And someone in the discussion from the drop mentioned that you could exchange nibs with the Pilot (only a few, like 4-5 nibs). Is this really true?
I wanted to jump onto that drop as I wanted to have a Pilot pen and get my girlfriend into fountain pens. She became interested seeing me writing with the Kaweco Sport :)

edit: I'm sorry I'm back in my what-if's-phase ^^ I'm a little excited and want to have everything thought through well. But I'm going to stick to fine nibs with the Pilots and finally have something to swap :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 26 May 2015, 22:25:29
looks pretty much like the pelikan black I know. not a huge fan of the faded grey once it dries.

as to your question about nib size, Japanese nibs are measured differently from Western nibs; typically they are finer.
eg.
Western EF = Jap F
Western F = Jap M

the line that a pen lays down is a function of nib size, wetness of ink, and paper quality. without keeping at least 2 of the variables constant, it is hard to make a fair comparison. Some of the goulet comparisons seemed off to me as well, but for the most part, it is a great resource for comparing nibs.

The pilot metro uses the same nib as a few other pilot pens which are rather affordable, and can be swapped out. Off the top of my head, for an even finer nib (0.2mm I believe), you'd need the pilot penmanship. There's a italic from the plumix and a few other options I can't recall. Not too bad if you like the metro's body and just want a nib change, but the costs do add up. If you're looking for a single daily basher it might be a better choice to shell out for something better.

As for smoothness, a Japanese F would still be very smooth, smoother if you do the paper bag trick. The nibs only start to get a little toothy as you go towards EF and UEF.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 27 May 2015, 00:29:42
It should have been a blue-black rather a black ink with grey color once it dries. I'm not a fan either. I'm more of a blue ink ish guy and I try to find some dark blue inks. Typically it's mostly the black-blue's that come close to my desired color, but I'm still trying to get to know ink colors :) For now the Kaweco Midnight Blue and Diamine Midnight/Majestic Blue is the color I really like (I only have the samples you can see at gouletpens).

This sounds good with the possibility to exchange the nibs. But if the F and M are smooth I guess I don't really need to swap into even finer nibs, only if something happened to the nib. I've read the Pilots Metropolitan give some kind of feedback while writing and that you can "polish" it off. Is it like grinding / sanding the nib to lessen the feedback?

Can someone comment on the converters for these? I have seen that some say it's not really tight in the pen and can produce some leakage while traveling. But with cartridges it seems more tight and less leakage problem.

I would want to still get the 2 Metropolitans in this drop as to give my girlfriend an entrance into fountain pens. Maybe later I'll try some of the nicer pens that may come via a drop as well :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 27 May 2015, 05:54:45
You can get some micromesh or fine sandpaper to tune the nib to your liking. I've never heard of it felt any feedback issues. Both con 20 (squeeze) and con 50 (twist) converters feel fine to me. Again, instead of obsessing over details, why not just go try one in person? I'm sure you could find a local pen store with the Metropolitan.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 27 May 2015, 10:14:58
Unfortunately I don't, I already looked everywhere and I couldn't find any Pilot pens in general or Metropolitan in particular. Most of the time I found Parker, Pelikan, Lamy but no asian manufacturers. And almost everybody but one didn't really knew Pilot pens. That's why I'm kind of focused on the details, as I cannot try them out and if I buy them and they don't fit my needs/wishes it's like throwing my money out of the windows. I'll buy them nonetheless, but I wanted to be sure as some of you had these Pilot pens and can elaborate on some things I wanted to check before buying.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 27 May 2015, 11:29:48
Unfortunately I don't, I already looked everywhere and I couldn't find any Pilot pens in general or Metropolitan in particular. Most of the time I found Parker, Pelikan, Lamy but no asian manufacturers. And almost everybody but one didn't really knew Pilot pens. That's why I'm kind of focused on the details, as I cannot try them out and if I buy them and they don't fit my needs/wishes it's like throwing my money out of the windows. I'll buy them nonetheless, but I wanted to be sure as some of you had these Pilot pens and can elaborate on some things I wanted to check before buying.

I didn't try a pilot before I bought one :3  but I hate my wallet.  First pilot was a Falcon, and interestingly enough I had a love/hate relationship with it.

Pilots tend to have more slender lines as they are a japanese brand.

They are the LAMY of the east, but they have more variety.  Their nibs are consistently pleasant, and their soft mediums are akin to the 23k palladium nibs of the visconti variety.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:51:59
(http://i.imgur.com/RTBYn9c.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Tiramisuu on Thu, 28 May 2015, 15:44:21
Being left handed I usually just ignore this thread but I thought I  might ask if anyone has found a good way to make this work other than writing with the wrong hand.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:26:36
Being left handed I usually just ignore this thread but I thought I  might ask if anyone has found a good way to make this work other than writing with the wrong hand.

Write from right to left?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 May 2015, 16:26:46
I only like dip pens. No way you guys can drag me into your elitist fountain pen wallethack. Plus I can write in blood without worrying about clogging.

I do need a good inkwell, however.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 28 May 2015, 17:08:54
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 28 May 2015, 18:01:36
I only like dip pens. No way you guys can drag me into your elitist fountain pen wallethack. Plus I can write in blood without worrying about clogging.

I do need a good inkwell, however.

Modern inkwells are awesome.  I have one for sale if you're interested.  The novelty has sort of worn off and I have more than one >.< 

It's a Stipula Netto
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 May 2015, 18:43:09
I only like dip pens. No way you guys can drag me into your elitist fountain pen wallethack. Plus I can write in blood without worrying about clogging.

I do need a good inkwell, however.

Modern inkwells are awesome.  I have one for sale if you're interested.  The novelty has sort of worn off and I have more than one >.< 

It's a Stipula Netto
That sounds really cool. Let me know what you want for it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 28 May 2015, 22:27:46
Being left handed I usually just ignore this thread but I thought I  might ask if anyone has found a good way to make this work other than writing with the wrong hand.

get a very fine pen with a dry feed and a well behaved ink (my favorite everyday pen is a Masuyama needlepoint from franklin-christoph; the feed from FC is key as the flow is a lot drier than if I paired the same nib with a twsbi feed).

That particular pen lays down a line that dries fast enough that I can write from left to right at normal speeds with minimal smudging, and I write with my hand from the side (meaning my hand pretty much touches the ink about 3-5 seconds later after the ink meets the page). I had grounded 1 pen and gotten one pen ground to lay out a similar line as the FC needlepoint/nib combination, but out of the three, the FC Masuyama ground needlepoint/feed is the only one that doesn't smudge for my usage.

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that's a beautiful pen. What's that ink you're using?


I didn't try a pilot before I bought one :3  but I hate my wallet.  First pilot was a Falcon, and interestingly enough I had a love/hate relationship with it.


Just curious, are you referring to the US Namiki Falcon, or one of the Custom Heritage Series with a FA (falcon nib)?

I've gotten one of the latter, and didn't really take to it until I got it ground down to a finer point.

I only like dip pens. No way you guys can drag me into your elitist fountain pen wallethack. Plus I can write in blood without worrying about clogging.


I'd like to get started with dip pens some time, but am rather lost whether it is concerned, other than wanting a titanium plated zebra G nib. The idea of nibs rusting turns me off quite a little, as I don't think I'll be using dip pens on a daily basis. Any opinions or recommendations? :)



Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 29 May 2015, 00:15:07
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that's a beautiful pen. What's that ink you're using?


I didn't try a pilot before I bought one :3  but I hate my wallet.  First pilot was a Falcon, and interestingly enough I had a love/hate relationship with it.


Just curious, are you referring to the US Namiki Falcon, or one of the Custom Heritage Series with a FA (falcon nib)?

I've gotten one of the latter, and didn't really take to it until I got it ground down to a finer point.

1. Rohrer & Klingner - Alt-Goldgrün

2. It's the US Namiki Falcon.  I have not yet tried their "FA" nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 May 2015, 08:44:16
Let's all get dip pens and learn copperplate together!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:18:12
Bleh. I lost my Pilot Elite. I am starting to have fountain pen withdrawal symptoms.
Great excuse to buy a new pen though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:27:37
I'd like to get started with dip pens some time, but am rather lost whether it is concerned, other than wanting a titanium plated zebra G nib. The idea of nibs rusting turns me off quite a little, as I don't think I'll be using dip pens on a daily basis. Any opinions or recommendations? :)

I'm cheap. I use a Speedball Pen Holder (Size B), with either a Speedball Hunt Pen No. 512 or No. 513-EF nib. Cost me all of $6 at the hobby store. :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Fri, 29 May 2015, 19:17:17
Does anyone have a spare lamy 1.1 or 1.3 nib? I want an italics tip for my safari but not $15 bad

Also, what is the proper term for the 'caligaraphy' style tips
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 29 May 2015, 19:34:50
I think the most dangerous part of fountain pens to your wallet is the inks.  I have four Diamine inks I want to try, four De Attramentis, four Noodler's, a J. Herbin, a Monteverde, a Private Reserve, a Pelikan, and an Omas.  Fortunately Goulet Pens sells small samples of most of the colors, so once I have some free cash, I'll be able to try some of those.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 29 May 2015, 19:39:41
j. herbin inks SUCK.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 29 May 2015, 20:57:37
It just looked so pretty.  Ok though.  The Diamine, Noodler's, and De Attramentis were the ones I really wanted to try the most.  Noodler's Bernanker Blue and Baystate Cape Cod Cranberry, De Atramentis Plum, and Diamine Oxblood, Red Dragon, and Marine all look like such cool colors.

Right now I just have Pelikan Violet (which does not like my Pilot Metro) and Namiki Blue.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 29 May 2015, 21:18:53
i need to buy that red twsbi 580, it's calling my name.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 30 May 2015, 00:06:42

1. Rohrer & Klingner - Alt-Goldgr�n

2. It's the US Namiki Falcon.  I have not yet tried their "FA" nib.

Ah I see. I haven't seen much of R&K inks where I'm at. That green is nice and unique.

How was your experience with the namiki falcon? I thought about getting it before but reviews of the SEF being scratchy gave me some pause, and I eventually went with the FA nib instead.

I'm cheap. I use a Speedball Pen Holder (Size B), with either a Speedball Hunt Pen No. 512 or No. 513-EF nib. Cost me all of $6 at the hobby store. :)

Thanks for the info! Cheap is what I'm looking for, since I'm not sure about dip pens as a whole.

On another note, anyone heard of these pens before?

(http://paperworld.messefrankfurt.com/findImages/large/userdata/bata/4348/545ba5f43a308.jpg)

It's a pen from germany (I think) called the Switch Plus. Has a nub that doubles as a stylus on one end, black nibs (only in fine or medium), cartridge/convertor capable. Price point is slightly below the Safari (might be different depending where you're at, geographically)

It's been making the rounds in my local hobby circles and being touted as a great alternative to the Lamy Safari.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 May 2015, 00:28:25


It just looked so pretty.  Ok though.  The Diamine, Noodler's, and De Attramentis were the ones I really wanted to try the most.  Noodler's Bernanker Blue and Baystate Cape Cod Cranberry, De Atramentis Plum, and Diamine Oxblood, Red Dragon, and Marine all look like such cool colors.

Right now I just have Pelikan Violet (which does not like my Pilot Metro) and Namiki Blue.

I've got a bunch of Diamine, J herbin, and Noodler's inks along with some other stuff. PM me and I'll get some samples out.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 May 2015, 09:58:27
God. The Namiki Falcon is so nice.

I'm tempted by it so much. Mmmm...
(http://gregminuskin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pict2608.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 30 May 2015, 16:20:09

1. Rohrer & Klingner - Alt-Goldgr�n

2. It's the US Namiki Falcon.  I have not yet tried their "FA" nib.

Ah I see. I haven't seen much of R&K inks where I'm at. That green is nice and unique.

How was your experience with the namiki falcon? I thought about getting it before but reviews of the SEF being scratchy gave me some pause, and I eventually went with the FA nib instead.


It was positive except that compared to other pens that I had which performed the same task... they were all better.  It's great if you feel it resonates with you on a very deep level, but I would not say it is an exceptional pen.

Personally I am more of a fan of customizing noodler's nibs and placing them in adequate bodies to achieve similar line variation.  For pure elegance I would suggest a pilot soft medium, or a sailor.  Sailor's nibs are fantastic and the pro gear series demand respect without being too flashy.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 30 May 2015, 23:37:37
I see. Thanks, that was very helpful advice.

Does 'the same task' refer to its use as a flex nib, or its use as a soft nib? I do see quite a bit of polarization between opinions on the falcon pens, especially with regards to whether it is really considered a flex pen without modification. Some seem to suggest that it would be better just used as a everyday non-flex writer with some softness in the nib, in which case, I'd have to compare it against the pilot/platinum soft nibs instead.

I've modified my own noodlers as well. Results were nice, but I did find their feeds to be a little too wet. Looking into putting a dip nib in an ahab, as well, but that's another thing I'll have to explore further.


@Air tree
That doesn't look like a stock falcon. From the shape of the nib, it seems to be a custom italicized grind. Wouldn't be surprised if it had flex added either. I'd recommend you check out more writing samples from a stock pen if you're thinking of getting one.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:00:13
Maybe someone can help me with this pen. So I finally found the pen I searched, it looks more like one of Jinhao's pens than a Waterman. It seems my memory tricked me.
Anyway, I tried to clean the pen but the "converter" is somewhat glued or welded or something like that. I cannot take it off without risking to rip it off the bezel. Other than it is made in China and has "white feather" written on the cap I cannot see anything company related or what kind of nib it has. But seems to be a fine nib.

Here you see everything I could take apart.
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(http://i.imgur.com/X2GnTnO.jpg)

The converter seems purple-ish this is the rest I had while I tried to clean it (cleaned it twice overall in 3 days). I didn't know how to clean it other than but the pen in a glass of water and feed the container with clean water and clean it that way. I remember my parents telling me that here were no cartridges for this pen, only this converter system that is fixed onto the pen itself.

Here is a close-up if you need.
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Have I damaged it or is it just harder to clean because the pen wasn't in use for many years?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:02:39
It's probably a cheap converter that's been stained by ink being dried up in there. I'd try using a 10% bleach to 90% water combination to see if you can clean it out. Just suck the combination through the pen like it's ink and squirt it out. If it doesn't work, just embrace it. As long as the stain doesn't affect ink (read changes the color of the ink you load into it after cleaning) when you refill it, then it's cool. Make sure after you use the bleach rinse, that you rinse it a bunch with just plain water to get the bleach out.

Stained =/= Damaged
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:06:10
While I clean it with pure water the converter has a more clear tone, it only looks so purpley when I let it stay to dry.
Thanks, I'll try it with the bleach.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 02 June 2015, 00:56:41
Looks like a clone of the Parker 51. Possibly a Hero 100/616, or a knockoff of the hero (yes, knockoffs of the knockoff exists). I think the Hero clones require a special tool from China to disassemble the convertor further, but as CBA has said, it doesn't matter if the staining doesn't affect the color of the ink that you put in your pen. Just wash it out a few times and you can ignore it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 03 June 2015, 11:23:31
It's seems like it's a Hero 616. I've seen a comparison (http://tylerdahlpens.blogspot.de/2011/05/parker-51-vs-hero-616-jumbo-extensive.html) on a site and from the pics or rather looks of the Hero it's similar to the Hero. If I didn't mix up the pens themselves on the pics as they are really similar.

I could get off some of the staining but there is still some left. As the water runs clean when I press it out it shouldn't bother the ink once I refill it.
Unfortunately some of the water is still in there. If I tip it to the bottom it fills somewhat 1cm in height, so it's not that much but I was just thinking it could be too much for the ink as it'll be more watery. Is this a problem or do you know how I can get the water out? Squeezing the converter doesn't help. I tried to pull the water to the tip of the converter and squeeze it out through the level that is connected to the feed/nib part but still the water doesn't come out.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 11:29:48
It's seems like it's a Hero 616. I've seen a comparison (http://tylerdahlpens.blogspot.de/2011/05/parker-51-vs-hero-616-jumbo-extensive.html) on a site and from the pics or rather looks of the Hero it's similar to the Hero. If I didn't mix up the pens themselves on the pics as they are really similar.

I could get off some of the staining but there is still some left. As the water runs clean when I press it out it shouldn't bother the ink once I refill it.
Unfortunately some of the water is still in there. If I tip it to the bottom it fills somewhat 1cm in height, so it's not that much but I was just thinking it could be too much for the ink as it'll be more watery. Is this a problem or do you know how I can get the water out? Squeezing the converter doesn't help. I tried to pull the water to the tip of the converter and squeeze it out through the level that is connected to the feed/nib part but still the water doesn't come out.

Sit the pen on a paper towel and wait a day.



For people who are always asking what some nice introductory pens are, I like Ed Jelley's article on the topic (http://edjelley.com/2015/06/03/7-best-beginner-fountain-pens-under-25-dollars/). I perpetually forget how good Kaweco Sports are.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 03 June 2015, 13:09:32
I forgot to mention I already did that and there is still some water left. It's not in the sun or anything. Just sitting on a paper towel somewhere save from light.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 June 2015, 16:06:25
It's just water. It'll dilute your ink a little so the color looks off for a little while until it evaporates. I think you're over thinking it. Just fill your ink up and enjoy writing.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 03 June 2015, 16:52:46
Yeah I tend to.. I'm not always noticing this.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 07 June 2015, 18:23:51
Need help, I'm a total newb here

Purchased myself a Pilot Metropolitan, first week of use has been a total joy
but the last week or two it kept leaking, my hands are inked everytime I use it

I use the plastic refillable cartridge, what usually went wrong when it leaks?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 07 June 2015, 18:50:02
Is the cartridge seated properly?  How do you carry the pen?  What ink are you using?  I haven't had any issues like you are with mine, but the times I've seen people having issues like yours it's because the ink is "too wet", they're carrying the pen with the nib facing down instead of up, or the ink cartridge isn't seated all the way.  Others with more experience could chime in.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 07 June 2015, 19:43:39
Is the cartridge seated properly?  How do you carry the pen?  What ink are you using?  I haven't had any issues like you are with mine, but the times I've seen people having issues like yours it's because the ink is "too wet", they're carrying the pen with the nib facing down instead of up, or the ink cartridge isn't seated all the way.  Others with more experience could chime in.

I'm pretty sure the cartridge is well seated and I put the pen with the nib facing up but sometimes I chucked it in my work bag and it's seating horizontally

I'm using a parker ink, the only ink accessible to me is only parker or mont blanc with MB ink price is three times the parker one

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 07 June 2015, 23:00:57
the plastic cartridges don't last past more than 3-4 refills in most cases, more if you're more careful with them. the mating surfaces wear down each time you plug and remove them, and when the seal deteriorates, you'll get leaks. might last longer if you take the time to grease the edges with lube, but most people just discard them after a few reuses and put in a new cartridge; they aren't made to last, after all.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 08 June 2015, 17:57:35

the plastic cartridges don't last past more than 3-4 refills in most cases, more if you're more careful with them. the mating surfaces wear down each time you plug and remove them, and when the seal deteriorates, you'll get leaks. might last longer if you take the time to grease the edges with lube, but most people just discard them after a few reuses and put in a new cartridge; they aren't made to last, after all.
Thanks for the info, I tried to refill it yesterday and see nothing is wrong
Well its an entry level fountain anyway, but I feel the eager to get into this hobby

Might be cptbad fault for posting his pens
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 08 June 2015, 21:40:36

the plastic cartridges don't last past more than 3-4 refills in most cases, more if you're more careful with them. the mating surfaces wear down each time you plug and remove them, and when the seal deteriorates, you'll get leaks. might last longer if you take the time to grease the edges with lube, but most people just discard them after a few reuses and put in a new cartridge; they aren't made to last, after all.
Well its an entry level fountain anyway, but I feel the eager to get into this hobby

Might be cptbad fault for posting his pens

+1

Something else to spend money on ...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Tue, 09 June 2015, 18:49:17
Hey guys, what is the next step up from a Lamy safari, but looks like a safari or is as brightly colored as the yellow one. People keep snagging my pens at work but now that I have the safari its not happening any more and when it does, well it's neon yellow, so not hard to find. Is there a way to upgrade the internals while keeping the cheap shell? I like the shell being cheap because I work in a machine shop so I'm ok with it being potentially broken, but the cheapo cartridges it uses are starting to bug me

Tldr; better lamy internals?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: TheGreatAntlers on Tue, 09 June 2015, 19:41:34
Also, what in the best way to improve my cursive/penmanship in general, I have never had a good hand and now my bad habits are deeply ingrained
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 09 June 2015, 22:46:42
Stole *cough cough* borrowed some letters from Booper and decided to do some practice at flexing. I have to admit that some letters gives me quite a bit of problem, still figuring things out.

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Looking good! I love that F and the N is pretty sweet too. I hate doing M and N :(  All these cool alphabets make me want to make fonts out of GH handwriting samples

I know railroading isn't technically good, but I love the way it makes a letter look like it has outlines. I wonder if there is a pen for doing that style of lettering?

You can *borrow* any of my letters you like!

Hi guys, are there any general but important pointers to help improve your handwriting?

Like what kind of mental image should I have/ do you point the pen up straight / grip it firmly / do you focus on your elbow, etc.

edit: I guess the question's a little broad, since I don't own a fountain pen yet and I'm just practicing with my normal .3 and .5 pen :P

I'm not expert at fountain pens or handwriting, but I do know some things about type / fonts which I think have helped me with my handwriting. I made a little explanation of some basic "typography anatomy" and things to think about as far as overall aesthetic of your writing go.  I think it's easier to explain things visually so I made this!

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(http://i.imgur.com/iXqFxAx.jpg)



Also, I like to browse google images for calligraphy/script fonts to come up with ideas on new ways to make letters interesting. If I'm trying to make a fancy quote and I'm nervous about spacing and such, I'll lightly sketch it out in pencil first and practice making small "thumbnails" to figure out how I want to do my lettering. I did a little evolution of the word "handwriting" in the top corner showing how you can take the base word, analyze it, and add more flair to it. I'm not a huge fan of how the "d" came out in that set, but o well.

In the bottom left corner I took a simple base line and tried to show how you can manipulate the same base stroke to make different letters in varying degrees of fanciness. Several of the letters in the alphabet start with some variation of a long downstroke so you can come up with one line style you feel comfortable with and use it to give your handwriting more consistency.


Hope this helps! :D

^
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:15:55
Making some progression at making my not look like a 8 year old's handwriting. It still looks bad, but It's effort.

I'll update when I can get something that has a modicum of prospect that I'm getting better.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:22:28
Making some progression at making my not look like a 8 year old's handwriting. It still looks bad, but It's effort.

I'll update when I can get something that has a modicum of prospect that I'm getting better.  :rolleyes:

(http://cdn.visualnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Thumbs-and-Ammo-11.jpeg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 17 June 2015, 00:31:47
I have found my calling.
(https://www.penchalet.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Platinum-3776-NICE-Fountain-Pen.jpg)
Now I just need to get money.
Also, for a guy who lost his previous $100 pen I don't know if it's a good idea to get something twice as expensive...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 18 June 2015, 19:25:04
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/18/7ffd11c0a555287b066c3b18c2d8a137.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/18/dee69b0cd942c8f17c56f7764ae89db1.jpg)

Thank you based pelikan for understanding that this is the best colorways. I'll be copping that purple at launch.



Also, what in the best way to improve my cursive/penmanship in general, I have never had a good hand and now my bad habits are deeply ingrained

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59329.msg1606461#msg1606461

Hey guys, what is the next step up from a Lamy safari, but looks like a safari or is as brightly colored as the yellow one. People keep snagging my pens at work but now that I have the safari its not happening any more and when it does, well it's neon yellow, so not hard to find. Is there a way to upgrade the internals while keeping the cheap shell? I like the shell being cheap because I work in a machine shop so I'm ok with it being potentially broken, but the cheapo cartridges it uses are starting to bug me

Tldr; better lamy internals?

Fountain pens aren't really about the "internals". People typically care about the filling system, body, and nib. The feed system isn't usually really cared about and I honestly don't care about it until I get a pen that doesn't work. I suggest ditching the cartridges and going with a converter (http://www.gouletpens.com/lmy-lz24/p/LMY-LZ24). If you really wanted to go all out, you could get a gold nib (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamy-Safari-spare-single-14-c-gold-nibs-in-different-sizes-in-Silver-Gold-/151125041467). But that's a bit much for my tastes. I suggest hunting down a nib you may like to try such as one of these (http://www.gouletpens.com/lmy-lz50bk/p/LMY-LZ50BK). Lamy Vista and Al Star pens are also the same pens but in a different material. Vista is a demonstrator and Al Star is anodized aluminum.

There's a bunch of Lamy pens that you may like as well. I'm currently eyeing a Lamy 2000. But I wouldn't carry that in a machine shop. I really like the Al Star so maybe check that out.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 18 June 2015, 20:24:10
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Thank you based pelikan for understanding that this is the best colorways. I'll be copping that purple at launch.

"Ladies Collection"?
Dafuq are they smoking? They don't know nothing about style. Apart from the decision to make a pink m600. Ballin.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 25 June 2015, 23:37:35
pelikan fans might be interested in this - see link:

http://thepelikansperch.com/2015/06/25/pelikan-m201-bayou/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 11 July 2015, 03:59:47
My first proper fountain pen - Pilot MR.
Looks even cooler in real life than in online photos.
Writes nicely and seems to be getting smoother as I use it.

(http://i.imgur.com/JyISd3y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oxqG8iP.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 July 2015, 08:54:15
pelikan fans might be interested in this - see link:

http://thepelikansperch.com/2015/06/25/pelikan-m201-bayou/
Swirly brown? Ew. Looks like icky Hudson River water.
My first proper fountain pen - Pilot MR.
Looks even cooler in real life than in online photos.
Writes nicely and seems to be getting smoother as I use it.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JyISd3y.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/oxqG8iP.jpg)

I love the Metropolitan so much. Been writing with mine. Got some pilot hermes ink in it for that swag too. Wish hermes would do their orange in an ink...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 11 July 2015, 09:09:04
Can anyone recommend a good elegant and minimalistic fountain pen? I'm craving another and It would be a good change from the clear twsbi mini.  :)

I Don't really have a clear budget, just not $300+  :-*
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 July 2015, 09:38:36
Can anyone recommend a good elegant and minimalistic fountain pen? I'm craving another and It would be a good change from the clear twsbi mini.  :)

I Don't really have a clear budget, just not $300+  :-*

Can you be a little more specific in what you're looking for? Do you have a filling system or nib you like? What do you see as "elegant and minimalisitic"? I think TWSBIs are minmalistic but that's my taste.

As usual, I'd recommend looking into a Pelikan of some sort but that's always my recommendation. If you can define your tastes a little more I'd be happy to suggest something that I think would suit you.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 11 July 2015, 10:02:04
Can anyone recommend a good elegant and minimalistic fountain pen? I'm craving another and It would be a good change from the clear twsbi mini.  :)

I Don't really have a clear budget, just not $300+  :-*

Can you be a little more specific in what you're looking for? Do you have a filling system or nib you like? What do you see as "elegant and minimalisitic"? I think TWSBIs are minmalistic but that's my taste.

As usual, I'd recommend looking into a Pelikan of some sort but that's always my recommendation. If you can define your tastes a little more I'd be happy to suggest something that I think would suit you.
So far I have only used piston, and that has served me well and hasn't led to any problems, but again, I don't have experience with the other filling systems. :)

I haven't tried a variety of nibs thus far, I do like the fine nib on my TWSBI, but there's flex nibs. I'm open to trying anything. Flex nibs sound interesting.

The mini has done very well for me, I just want to explore with other pens.

Overall I'm not a huge fan of TWSBI's clear pen styling, but I love it as a writer.


I mean just to gauge my tastes, I find the Full metal falcon pilot to be really quite nice looking.
(http://site.shopwritersbloc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/pilot-metal-falcon-fountain-pen-burgundy-14k-soft-fine-nib-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 July 2015, 10:15:21
So far I have only used piston, and that has served me well and hasn't led to any problems, but again, I don't have experience with the other filling systems. :)

I haven't tried a variety of nibs thus far, I do like the fine nib on my TWSBI, but there's flex nibs. I'm open to trying anything. Flex nibs sound interesting.

The mini has done very well for me, I just want to explore with other pens.

Overall I'm not a huge fan of TWSBI's clear pen styling, but I love it as a writer.


I mean just to gauge my tastes, I find the Full metal falcon pilot to be really quite nice looking.
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If you want to try an affordable flex nib, pickup a Noodler's Ahab and modify it ("Ease my Flex" mod) with a Dremel. I'm talking $20 will set you up with an Ahab. You can then learn how to mod a fountain pen with the mod and nib smoothing.

Good modern flex pens are kinda hard to come by imo. I prefer vintage flex but the vintage flex stuff is crazy expensive and hyped right now.

I think you might like a Pelikan M200. They're not too expensive if you wait for a sale, you can swap the nibs incredible easy, they look understated but look good (Like that Falcon), and they always write. Otherwise, maybe check out some Pilot stuff like the Metropolitan, Prera, or Stargazer/Stella. Parker and Waterman also have that classic look. But I'm not really a fan of most American stuff. I really only like Esterbrooks (vintage), Franklin Christoph, and Edison.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 11 July 2015, 10:34:42
Can anyone recommend a good elegant and minimalistic fountain pen? I'm craving another and It would be a good change from the clear twsbi mini.  :)

I Don't really have a clear budget, just not $300+  :-*

Lamy 2000.  Mine still tickles my nuts even after collecting many many more expensive pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 11 July 2015, 11:23:51
Lamy 2000 is definitely a good recommendation :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 11 July 2015, 16:59:19
BMW pen (ball point,  cool looking,  but very meh as a pen..)

I get a few of these in the mail every year.

Apparently people buy these,   DON"T..    There's literally NOTHING actually special about this pen..   If you catch someone using it.. you just KNOW they're a wannabe snob. {also, you'll know they don't know jack **** about pens}


(http://i.imgur.com/NGCajz4.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/stRQIuT.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 12 July 2015, 06:25:49

So far I have only used piston, and that has served me well and hasn't led to any problems, but again, I don't have experience with the other filling systems. :)

I haven't tried a variety of nibs thus far, I do like the fine nib on my TWSBI, but there's flex nibs. I'm open to trying anything. Flex nibs sound interesting.

The mini has done very well for me, I just want to explore with other pens.

Overall I'm not a huge fan of TWSBI's clear pen styling, but I love it as a writer.


I mean just to gauge my tastes, I find the Full metal falcon pilot to be really quite nice looking.


Got a chance to try the falcon out a few weeks back, and I kinda get what Binge was talking about. If you're looking for flex, I honestly wouldn't bother with the stock falcon; it 'flexes' but doesn't really feel quite right in use. As a soft nib however, its fairly nice, but I'd rather take a Pilot Custom 74/91 with a soft-fine in that case.

The Pilot FA nib (available with the custom heritage 742/743/912) is probably the best modern flex nib at the moment, but railroading due to the feed/ink flow issues is fairly common, and needs a good amount of patience, tweaking, and good flowing inks, to make it work well, and even then, it isn't as good as going vintage. I love my 912/FA, however.

The noodlers are okay if you do the mods mentioned well, but provide a crappy experience in their stock forms. Build quality leaves a lot to be desired imo.

On the topic of american pens, I actually really like the Franklin-Christophs. Great pens for the prices they're charging, and getting a Masuyama ground nib for an additional 15 bucks is a really good deal. Newton pens is doing some pretty awesome stuff as well, but the prices are a little out of my range for now.

Instead of the falcon, I'd recommend taking a look at either the Pilot Custom 74/91 with a soft-fine/soft medium fine; decently priced pens (if you buy direct from japan) which allows you to try out some flex (not as soft as full flex, but it gives a similar type of line variation) and see if you like it. It also takes the con-70 converter, which is probably the largest cartridge convertor right now (capacity is comparable to some piston fillers). Another pen in a similar price range would be the platinum 3776 with a soft fine (either Chartres Blue or Burgounge (sp?) Red). The Pilot SF is softer however.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 12 July 2015, 09:48:13
http://i.instagram.com/anintran

For anyone who's ever asked "How do I improve my handwriting?" @anintran and other instagram calligraphers are doing a series called #handletteredABC. There's drills and videos on how each letter is made. Start practicing.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 12 July 2015, 10:54:44
If you actually want a proper modern flex pen then you will need to pay a pretty penny for the Justus 95.
It has a little gimmick where you can change the hardness of the pen, but the real reason why it is good is that it has the least railroading issues to the point where you can use it to its best potential.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 12 July 2015, 12:14:14
If you actually want a proper modern flex pen then you will need to pay a pretty penny for the Justus 95.
It has a little gimmick where you can change the hardness of the pen, but the real reason why it is good is that it has the least railroading issues to the point where you can use it to its best potential.

Even then the noodler's pens beat it pretty hard... there is no such thing as modern flex. :-/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 12 July 2015, 12:29:40
http://i.instagram.com/anintran

For anyone who's ever asked "How do I improve my handwriting?" @anintran and other instagram calligraphers are doing a series called #handletteredABC. There's drills and videos on how each letter is made. Start practicing.
It's such a bitter thing handwriting and I. Every time I try to copy or do my best to make something nice I see from somewhere else, I *try* to write cursive style, I fail horribly and it looks like ink splotches that aren't even readable or look anything like letters.  >:D

Then I get angry at my pen for not making me write well, because I have to divert my problems onto objects... :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Mon, 13 July 2015, 00:41:14
If you actually want a proper modern flex pen then you will need to pay a pretty penny for the Justus 95.
It has a little gimmick where you can change the hardness of the pen, but the real reason why it is good is that it has the least railroading issues to the point where you can use it to its best potential.

Even then the noodler's pens beat it pretty hard... there is no such thing as modern flex. :-/

the point on there being no modern flex - very much agreed.

The Justus is at best as soft as a FA at its softer settings, but due to the tension bar, it has an additional reservoir of ink that helps decrease the odds of railroading. Still a very nice pen, maybe more so if you had Mottishaw do additional flex mods on it, but that's gonna cost upwards of 400 at the very least, and it still won't measure up to vintage flex.

I wouldn't say Noodlers beat it hard though. They're a good introduction to flex and can help decide whether you want to really invest in a better flex pen. Imo they're more a novelty than a reliable pen; but I've had too many problems and mishaps with the konrad that I would never consider to bring any of their pens around as a everyday basher. However, it's okay as a doodling pen that I keep at my desk.


Also, for a really good flex experience, the Noodlers can be made into a frankenpen by fitting a Zebra G nib into them. The nibs are basically consumables as they're not tipped (get the titanium coated ones, they last longer), but given that they're actual dip nibs, they're better flex-ers than any modern flex nib.

this guy does a pretty good overfeed mod for the noodlers (original nib, not the dip nib). They come up on ebay every once in a while. fun for doodling or if you do actual flex calligraphy, but imo not very usable for regular writing due to how much of a gusher the result is.


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Seranite on Tue, 14 July 2015, 13:57:57
Is this blasphemy?

(http://i.imgur.com/4PzZ1UO.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 14 July 2015, 14:02:19
Is this blasphemy?

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(http://i.imgur.com/4PzZ1UO.jpg)


You spelled "****ty" wrong in the first line :(. Nothing wrong with ballpoints though. Sometimes you need them.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Seranite on Tue, 14 July 2015, 14:06:47
Is this blasphemy?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4PzZ1UO.jpg)


You spelled "****ty" wrong in the first line :(. Nothing wrong with ballpoints though. Sometimes you need them.

Wow I did, didn't I. Ah well, I spell my own name wrong half the time when I write my signature...I'm a terrible person.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 15 July 2015, 09:17:17
Is this blasphemy?

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(http://i.imgur.com/4PzZ1UO.jpg)

Step it up.
(http://i.imgur.com/GVHTQVv.jpg?1)


Didn't even capitalise my "i's" Get gud pls.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Seranite on Wed, 15 July 2015, 12:32:17
Is this blasphemy?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4PzZ1UO.jpg)

Step it up.
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(http://i.imgur.com/GVHTQVv.jpg?1)



Didn't even capitalise my "i's" Get gud pls.

I surrender. Although it should be considered cheating writing on paper with no lines. Of course it's gonna look like ****!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 16 July 2015, 16:28:44
Got something new to house my notebooks in :D.

(http://i.imgur.com/c0TY3vK.jpg?1) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51762.msg1802191#msg1802191Made by our very own Noko![/url)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 16 July 2015, 16:43:25
Got something new to house my notebooks in :D.

(http://i.imgur.com/c0TY3vK.jpg?1)
 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51762.msg1802191#msg1802191Made by our very own Noko![/url)

(http://alaskabbq.org/sites/default/files/its%20happening.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Thu, 16 July 2015, 17:07:22
Is this blasphemy?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4PzZ1UO.jpg)


You spelled "****ty" wrong in the first line :(. Nothing wrong with ballpoints though. Sometimes you need them.

I can think of just two such times - birthday cards (shiny) and cheap envelopes (too absorbent)

My pens live at work as I have little reason to write at home (aside from birthday cards...) but I have one here now ready to send off for a sac reattachment.  It may be old but still works great, apart from the leak!

(http://i.imgur.com/soxCiC0.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sun, 19 July 2015, 16:40:27
Hey guys, you know of a way to get the ink out of cartridges? I recently received some and would like to use them in some way as I'm using converters in my pens.
Is there a way for this without getting too much ink on my hands? It's such a hassle to get the ink stains off my hands :-\

Woohoo I finally received my Pilot Metropolitan pens, will try and post some words about how the writing feels like. I got them with a fine and medium nib (the medium one got my girlfriend). I'm particularly eager to know how the fine will feel like to my fine Kaweco  :rolleyes:


e: Any suggestions for removal of ink stains on the hands are much appreciated. I tried with hairspray and baby oil and it rubs off quite slowly, you guys have any other suggestions? I do not own rubbing alcohol, probably need to buy some and also try that, I bet this'll help quicker?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 July 2015, 16:44:50
Hey guys, you know of a way to get the ink out of cartridges? I recently received some and would like to use them in some way as I'm using converters in my pens.
Is there a way for this without getting too much ink on my hands? It's such a hassle to get the ink stains off my hands :-\

If you're into fountain pens, get used to ink on your hands. Comes with the territory. Or be more careful when you're working and wear gloves.

You can use a syringe (http://www.gouletpens.com/gpc-inksyringe/p/GPC-InkSyringe) out of an ink cartridge. These aren't specifically for ink. Any medical or plastic syringe will work as long as the tip fits into the cartridge.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sun, 19 July 2015, 16:47:49
Hey guys, you know of a way to get the ink out of cartridges? I recently received some and would like to use them in some way as I'm using converters in my pens.
Is there a way for this without getting too much ink on my hands? It's such a hassle to get the ink stains off my hands :-\

If you're into fountain pens, get used to ink on your hands. Comes with the territory. Or be more careful when you're working and wear gloves.
I try to get used to this, I only think it looks weird for people at work if my thumb, index finger etc. are so blue, especially if you get yourself a blue ink mustache  :))

You can use a syringe (http://www.gouletpens.com/gpc-inksyringe/p/GPC-InkSyringe) out of an ink cartridge. These aren't specifically for ink. Any medical or plastic syringe will work as long as the tip fits into the cartridge.
Thanks, I'll get the tip for the syringe. How do you say this in english? Miss the wood for the trees? In German it would translate into: Not seeing the wood due to too many trees
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 July 2015, 16:49:33
I try to get used to this, I only think it looks weird for people at work if my thumb, index finger etc. are so blue, especially if you get yourself a blue ink mustache  :))

People come into work on Monday with motor oil on their hands from working on their cars and motorcycles. Who cares?

Any suggestions for removal of ink stains on the hands are much appreciated. I tried with hairspray and baby oil and it rubs off quite slowly, you guys have any other suggestions? I do not own rubbing alcohol, probably need to buy some and also try that, I bet this'll help quicker?

I find washing your hands with shampoo helps. Also you can try something like Gojo Handsoap (http://www.homedepot.com/p/GoJo-14-oz-Pumice-Hand-Soap-095712/202261335) or abrasive handsoaps.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Sun, 19 July 2015, 17:01:47
I try to get used to this, I only think it looks weird for people at work if my thumb, index finger etc. are so blue, especially if you get yourself a blue ink mustache  :))
People come into work on Monday with motor oil on their hands from working on their cars and motorcycles. Who cares?
It depends on the job, if you have job related motor oil on your hands it's okay. But I'm working at a bank and have client contact at times. Doesn't go that well I'd say. It has a lot to do with standing/prestige.

Thanks for the pumice / abrasive handsoaps; I didn't know of this.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 19 July 2015, 17:20:45
I use some kind laundry soap and that gets the ink off my hands pretty well..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 19 July 2015, 19:31:04
Hey guys, you know of a way to get the ink out of cartridges? I recently received some and would like to use them in some way as I'm using converters in my pens.
Is there a way for this without getting too much ink on my hands? It's such a hassle to get the ink stains off my hands :-\

If you're into fountain pens, get used to ink on your hands. Comes with the territory. Or be more careful when you're working and wear gloves.

You can use a syringe (http://www.gouletpens.com/gpc-inksyringe/p/GPC-InkSyringe) out of an ink cartridge. These aren't specifically for ink. Any medical or plastic syringe will work as long as the tip fits into the cartridge.

If you have a c/c pen then just use the cartridges. It's honestly much more convenient if you have them already. Although my preference is definitely bottled ink.
That being said, it might be an issue if the cartridges aren't compatible. Many pens use proprietary cartridges.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 20 July 2015, 10:36:25
Got this one in the mail.
(http://i.imgur.com/LfrZpSZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 10:38:52
Ooo a Visconti. I'm really digging their Homo Sapiens Lava Bronze. What nib did you get?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 20 July 2015, 10:51:47
Ooo a Visconti. I'm really digging their Homo Sapiens Lava Bronze. What nib did you get?

It's a medium.
I got it from a classifieds for a really nice price. Usually I like finer nibs but I can easily get this reground if I wanted to and it would still cost less than a new pen. I also decided I should make my writing larger since it's very tight and small; a medium nib might help in that regard.

The lava bronze is definitely cool. But that Florentine hills binge has... Most beautiful demonstrator I have seen. The crystal is also equally good.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 20 July 2015, 11:26:55
Ooo a Visconti. I'm really digging their Homo Sapiens Lava Bronze. What nib did you get?

It's a medium.
I got it from a classifieds for a really nice price. Usually I like finer nibs but I can easily get this reground if I wanted to and it would still cost less than a new pen. I also decided I should make my writing larger since it's very tight and small; a medium nib might help in that regard.

The lava bronze is definitely cool. But that Florentine hills binge has... Most beautiful demonstrator I have seen. The crystal is also equally good.

Oh mang, I love my visconti pens.  Definitely want to get a Bronze this Christmas.  Love the vac fillers.  The model you've got there has a chromium alloy nib.  Probably great for a medium.  If it is having any issues working let me know.  I know about how much can be done @home with those mechanisms and what issues you would have to send away to have fixed.  Still beautiful pen.  I wish they had a nicer nib, but that mosquito filler is to die for.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:06:02
Ooo a Visconti. I'm really digging their Homo Sapiens Lava Bronze. What nib did you get?

It's a medium.
I got it from a classifieds for a really nice price. Usually I like finer nibs but I can easily get this reground if I wanted to and it would still cost less than a new pen. I also decided I should make my writing larger since it's very tight and small; a medium nib might help in that regard.

The lava bronze is definitely cool. But that Florentine hills binge has... Most beautiful demonstrator I have seen. The crystal is also equally good.

Oh mang, I love my visconti pens.  Definitely want to get a Bronze this Christmas.  Love the vac fillers.  The model you've got there has a chromium alloy nib.  Probably great for a medium.  If it is having any issues working let me know.  I know about how much can be done @home with those mechanisms and what issues you would have to send away to have fixed.  Still beautiful pen.  I wish they had a nicer nib, but that mosquito filler is to die for.

The one thing I don't like about the nib is the laser engraving. It's not very clean at all. Mine is a beautiful writer though. The feed keeps up and the flow is great.
One cool thing is that the smaller nib units on visconti pens are interchangeable. I could get a palladium nib if I wanted. Or even a gold one if I was lucky enough to find one.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:20:52
Ooo a Visconti. I'm really digging their Homo Sapiens Lava Bronze. What nib did you get?

It's a medium.
I got it from a classifieds for a really nice price. Usually I like finer nibs but I can easily get this reground if I wanted to and it would still cost less than a new pen. I also decided I should make my writing larger since it's very tight and small; a medium nib might help in that regard.

The lava bronze is definitely cool. But that Florentine hills binge has... Most beautiful demonstrator I have seen. The crystal is also equally good.

Oh mang, I love my visconti pens.  Definitely want to get a Bronze this Christmas.  Love the vac fillers.  The model you've got there has a chromium alloy nib.  Probably great for a medium.  If it is having any issues working let me know.  I know about how much can be done @home with those mechanisms and what issues you would have to send away to have fixed.  Still beautiful pen.  I wish they had a nicer nib, but that mosquito filler is to die for.

The one thing I don't like about the nib is the laser engraving. It's not very clean at all. Mine is a beautiful writer though. The feed keeps up and the flow is great.
One cool thing is that the smaller nib units on visconti pens are interchangeable. I could get a palladium nib if I wanted. Or even a gold one if I was lucky enough to find one.

Palladium = best

They spoiled me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 July 2015, 17:15:52
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/20/009551f487ab71a65f2e5e605f3494cd.jpg)

Your boy is about to level up his print. Just got this book from a Co worker who learned actual drafting.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 21 July 2015, 11:01:52
I'm really digging their Homo Sapiens Lava Bronze.

A tempting offer (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/classifieds/item/34915-visconti-homo-sapiens-bronze-age-w-m-nib/) for you...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 21 July 2015, 11:53:54
If you have a c/c pen then just use the cartridges. It's honestly much more convenient if you have them already. Although my preference is definitely bottled ink.
That being said, it might be an issue if the cartridges aren't compatible. Many pens use proprietary cartridges.

What is a c/c pen? I recently bought the Pilot Metropolitan and it's more expensive to buy the Pilot cartridges than using the converter. The cartridges I received are more a less for Pelikan pens but fit in most common fountain pens you can buy here in Germany.

Can someone give me a suggestion what to do with the Pilot Metropolitan with a fine nib to get the ink flow more fluently? I already flushed it yesterday and let it dry. I've put the converter back in and at first it was really really difficult getting ink out. After some light pressure of the tip of the nib against the paper it flowed better but still was inconsistent.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:40:57
If you have a c/c pen then just use the cartridges. It's honestly much more convenient if you have them already. Although my preference is definitely bottled ink.
That being said, it might be an issue if the cartridges aren't compatible. Many pens use proprietary cartridges.

What is a c/c pen? I recently bought the Pilot Metropolitan and it's more expensive to buy the Pilot cartridges than using the converter. The cartridges I received are more a less for Pelikan pens but fit in most common fountain pens you can buy here in Germany.

Can someone give me a suggestion what to do with the Pilot Metropolitan with a fine nib to get the ink flow more fluently? I already flushed it yesterday and let it dry. I've put the converter back in and at first it was really really difficult getting ink out. After some light pressure of the tip of the nib against the paper it flowed better but still was inconsistent.

C/C just means cartridge/converter. All pens that use converters can use cartridges. If you have cartridges already I wouldn't go through the effort of extracting it unless they aren't compatible.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:43:43
Can someone give me a suggestion what to do with the Pilot Metropolitan with a fine nib to get the ink flow more fluently? I already flushed it yesterday and let it dry. I've put the converter back in and at first it was really really difficult getting ink out. After some light pressure of the tip of the nib against the paper it flowed better but still was inconsistent.

Use a different ink. That one obviously isn't working for you.

C/C just means cartridge/converter. All pens that use converters can use cartridges. If you have cartridges already I wouldn't go through the effort of extracting it unless they aren't compatible.

You sure about that? Not sure if you could use cartridges in Bexleys, Nakayas, or Edisons. But I guess I've never tried it either.

A tempting offer (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/classifieds/item/34915-visconti-homo-sapiens-bronze-age-w-m-nib/) for you...

Not tempting. A plane ticket or a pen for the same price. I'll take a plane ticket.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:52:53
C/C just means cartridge/converter. All pens that use converters can use cartridges. If you have cartridges already I wouldn't go through the effort of extracting it unless they aren't compatible.

You sure about that? Not sure if you could use cartridges in Bexleys, Nakayas, or Edisons. But I guess I've never tried it either.


I could be wrong since I am still new to this.
I know that Nakaya does sell their own cartridges and if I recall they use Platinum converters which means that Platinum cartridges will work.
The most common cartridge is the standard international but many companies choose to make their own proprietary stuff.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 21 July 2015, 13:54:58
Never knew the ink could be such a problem for a pen, I'll look to buy Pelikan Edelstein bottled ink. Should I switch to another brand as I tried some other Pelikan ink or is it more like the ink from the same company still can be different depending on the product you buy. So that it doesn't mean that I can't use any Pelikan ink?
I hope that came out right :)
I'm not sure if this will effect anything at all. It's just that in sports I don't buy from a specific local brand as the products are okay but tend to torn, seem low-quality and stuff like that. I assume those characteristics can also be found on other products from the same company. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Unfortunately the cartridges I received aren't compatible as they are from Pelikan and have a totally different formfactor =/
I'll try to find some other ink, depending on what you guys say about using ink from the same brand but different products.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:19:38
The problem with inks is that the companies don't have to tell us what's in them. How a company makes their blue ink might be different from how they make a brown ink. That formulation difference, how you write, your current environment, and paper will change your writing experience. Pelikan blue may perform different from pelikan black for you.

Fun fact about pelikan, it might be made in Germany and is owned by a Malaysian company. Technically it's a Malaysian brand imo.

Also? Pelikan Edelstein ink is often called the driest ink and people have complaints about its flow.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:24:38
The problem with inks is that the companies don't have to tell us what's in them. How a company makes their blue ink might be different from how they make a brown ink. That formulation difference, how you write, your current environment, and paper will change your writing experience. Pelikan blue may perform different from pelikan black for you.

Fun fact about pelikan, it might be made in Germany and is owned by a Malaysian company. Technically it's a Malaysian brand imo.

Very true indeed. I recall that Iroshizuku inks are known to all dry within 5 seconds but their latest 3 inks have a much longer dry time than usual.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:28:25
Very true indeed. I recall that Iroshizuku inks are known to all dry within 5 seconds but their latest 3 inks have a much longer dry time than usual.

This is something that happened with the Diamine 1670 ink series. Two different inks (Ocean Blue and Stormy Grey) have a gold-colored flake in the ink. Ocean Blue originally did not have gold flecks. The fountain pen enthusiast community only figured it out after someone posted pictures of their new bottle of Ocean Blue vs their old bottle. Stormy Grey originally had larger flecks of gold and would clog pens. They've since changed the ink formulation. But no one knows when or which batches have the change so you have to do a ton of trial and error in testing inks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 21 July 2015, 15:10:29
The problem with inks is that the companies don't have to tell us what's in them. How a company makes their blue ink might be different from how they make a brown ink. That formulation difference, how you write, your current environment, and paper will change your writing experience. Pelikan blue may perform different from pelikan black for you.

Fun fact about pelikan, it might be made in Germany and is owned by a Malaysian company. Technically it's a Malaysian brand imo.

Also? Pelikan Edelstein ink is often called the driest ink and people have complaints about its flow.

Good to know! Never really got into that ink part so deep, I thought that everything is somewhat the same production-wise. If I understand you correctly the Edelstein ink compared to some standard Pelikan ink could be totally different although they are blue inks right?

I only want the Edelstein ink because you recommended them to me. I'm a lefty and most of the time I smurdge while writing, I'm just too quick writing ^^ I also tried writing underhand and stuff, but this is very bothersome and when in need to write quick I go back to what I'm used to. But that's why you recommended Edelstein ink and I would like to try it.
But: As I got a Japanese fine nib and it is really really thin while writing, whats your thought on using Edelstein ink? If not so good, any other recommendations on inks I can use as a lefty? I've seen Diamine (Sapphire Blue just like Edelstein's ink), J. Herbin (1670 or something like that) and some others but they all seem to be very wet. If the dry Edelstein ink is too dry I bet a "balanced" ink is the choice here, isn't it?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 15:14:21
If I understand you correctly the Edelstein ink compared to some standard Pelikan ink could be totally different although they are blue inks right?

Yes. Every single Pelikan or Pelikan Edelstein ink can perform differently from another. Color does not mean they will perform the same. That is the same for every single other ink and ink company.

I only want the Edelstein ink because you recommended them to me. I'm a lefty and most of the time I smurdge while writing, I'm just too quick writing ^^ I also tried writing underhand and stuff, but this is very bothersome and when in need to write quick I go back to what I'm used to. But that's why you recommended Edelstein ink and I would like to try it.
But: As I got a Japanese fine nib and it is really really thin while writing, whats your thought on using Edelstein ink? If not so good, any other recommendations on inks I can use as a lefty? I've seen Diamine (Sapphire Blue just like Edelstein's ink), J. Herbin (1670 or something like that) and some others but they all seem to be very wet. If the dry Edelstein ink is too dry I bet a "balanced" ink is the choice here, isn't it?

As always, I recommend Diamine, Noodler's, J Herbin (Not 1670, just normal), and Pilot Iroshizuku. I'm not a lefty. I don't know anyone who is a left so I cannot comment personally on what would work for you. My advice is to find a website or retailer that sells ink samples, grabbing a few, and testing it for yourself.

Also japanese fine? That could be a problem in itself. Perhaps your writing style doesn't fit the nib you're using. Could you get your hands on a Pilot Medium?

That's the problem with going on some stranger's recommendation on fountain pens online. Just because I recommend it to you doesn't mean it works for you. You honestly should just test things out for yourself instead of heavily relying on stuff I hear second hand and relay to you (since I'm not a lefty).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Tue, 21 July 2015, 15:14:45
The problem with inks is that the companies don't have to tell us what's in them. How a company makes their blue ink might be different from how they make a brown ink. That formulation difference, how you write, your current environment, and paper will change your writing experience. Pelikan blue may perform different from pelikan black for you.

Fun fact about pelikan, it might be made in Germany and is owned by a Malaysian company. Technically it's a Malaysian brand imo.

Also? Pelikan Edelstein ink is often called the driest ink and people have complaints about its flow.

Good to know! Never really got into that ink part so deep, I thought that everything is somewhat the same production-wise. If I understand you correctly the Edelstein ink compared to some standard Pelikan ink could be totally different although they are blue inks right?


This is correct.

In addition Pelikan inks could be totally different than other Pelikan inks.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 July 2015, 15:50:10
Noodler's bulletproof dries pretty quick iirc and it's hard to smudge off.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 21 July 2015, 15:59:24
Noodler's bulletproof dries pretty quick iirc and it's hard to smudge off.

Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 21 July 2015, 17:03:03
I only want the Edelstein ink because you recommended them to me. I'm a lefty and most of the time I smurdge while writing, I'm just too quick writing ^^ I also tried writing underhand and stuff, but this is very bothersome and when in need to write quick I go back to what I'm used to. But that's why you recommended Edelstein ink and I would like to try it.
But: As I got a Japanese fine nib and it is really really thin while writing, whats your thought on using Edelstein ink? If not so good, any other recommendations on inks I can use as a lefty? I've seen Diamine (Sapphire Blue just like Edelstein's ink), J. Herbin (1670 or something like that) and some others but they all seem to be very wet. If the dry Edelstein ink is too dry I bet a "balanced" ink is the choice here, isn't it?
As always, I recommend Diamine, Noodler's, J Herbin (Not 1670, just normal), and Pilot Iroshizuku. I'm not a lefty. I don't know anyone who is a left so I cannot comment personally on what would work for you. My advice is to find a website or retailer that sells ink samples, grabbing a few, and testing it for yourself.

Also japanese fine? That could be a problem in itself. Perhaps your writing style doesn't fit the nib you're using. Could you get your hands on a Pilot Medium?
Yeah I can have one, my girlfriend has the medium one but uses the one Pilot cartridge that came along with the package. So I'm not sure if this'll make any difference for me, my writing style. Personally I love the thin line when writing with the japanese fine. I compared it to my Kaweco Fine and the Kaweco is so thick that I fell more in love with the japanese fine.

That's the problem with going on some stranger's recommendation on fountain pens online. Just because I recommend it to you doesn't mean it works for you. You honestly should just test things out for yourself instead of heavily relying on stuff I hear second hand and relay to you (since I'm not a lefty).
I know I shouldn't rely on things I get from the internet from you or others. The thing is I make the most out of it as I do not have a local shop which have a variety of inks I could sample (tried a lot of shops around here where I live). My other problem is that finding an online shop with decent shipping costs whatsoever is difficult as well. It's like you all recommended using Lamy or Kaweco as they are German brands, but Kaweco is practically non-existent here and the one shop there is almost only have the Kaweco Sport.

Long story short I'm not that much relying onto it, so don't worry mate :thumb: and still I do need some info as you and others are more experienced and know one or the other thing of inks, pens and stuff. As I've learned it last weekend, learning to do home improvement by yourself or having someone giving you tips, showing some handles is a big difference and you learn a lot quicker with someone experienced. :) So I just wanted to try the Edelstein ink as it had a beautiful color and a decent price and and is rather more available here than other brands.
As of right now I'm kinda limited with where I can get specific items other than on massdrop (if I'm lucky) or amazon having a good day and dropping the price for different items. In time this will change as there maybe is a community around here that I yet have to find.

I'm not terribly comfortable with my english and maybe some texts from me seem to be very sheepish or naive, but that's just my english and my way of constructing a sentence, use of words etc. I'm just not that used to it  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 21 July 2015, 19:26:36
Noodler's bulletproof dries pretty quick iirc and it's hard to smudge off.

Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.

Most noodler's inks are pH neutral.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 19:39:44
Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.

Has this happened to you? Have you tried Noodler's in an ink sac? If so that's perfectly fine but there's a lot of misinformation about Noodler's imo. I have tried it in an ink sac. It's fine. The thing with Noodler's Ink is that the maker is crazy and makes all of these really odd inks. For example he's got a laser proof ink. His conventional inks are perfectly fine, even in vintage pens. It's when you start messing with his weird property inks that weird stuff happens to pens and then people complain.

I ran an experiment when I left Baystate Blue in a pen (Lamy Al Star) for 4 months without cleaning it. Works fine and it wasn't that stained. Didn't melt or anything as you would be led to believe by reading for the forums.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 21 July 2015, 20:08:47
Noodler's bulletproof dries pretty quick iirc and it's hard to smudge off.

Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.

Most noodler's inks are pH neutral.

Bulletproof Polar Brown is my every day ink, and it is the only ink I use to write my notes in my lab notebook.   I could run a pH test on it tomorrow if anyone would be interested.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 21 July 2015, 20:09:29
Bulletproof Polar Brown is my every day ink, and it is the only ink I use to write my notes in my lab notebook.   I could run a pH test on it tomorrow if anyone would be interested.

I'm extremely interested. In fact, if you don't mind, could I send you some other inks? My everyday is Noodler's North African Violet.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 21 July 2015, 20:24:40
Bulletproof Polar Brown is my every day ink, and it is the only ink I use to write my notes in my lab notebook.   I could run a pH test on it tomorrow if anyone would be interested.

I'm extremely interested. In fact, if you don't mind, could I send you some other inks? My everyday is Noodler's North African Violet.

I'd be happy to.  PM if you need me to give you my address again.  Testing with a pH strip would be difficult since the analysis is based on color change.  I will do them all at once on the pH probe.  It gives more precise results (+/- .01 pH unit).  But I will need ~2 mL to do that test, whereas the pH strip would only require 4 drops.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 July 2015, 20:57:25
#noodlersgang
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 21 July 2015, 21:06:47
Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.

Has this happened to you? Have you tried Noodler's in an ink sac? If so that's perfectly fine but there's a lot of misinformation about Noodler's imo. I have tried it in an ink sac. It's fine. The thing with Noodler's Ink is that the maker is crazy and makes all of these really odd inks. For example he's got a laser proof ink. His conventional inks are perfectly fine, even in vintage pens. It's when you start messing with his weird property inks that weird stuff happens to pens and then people complain.

I ran an experiment when I left Baystate Blue in a pen (Lamy Al Star) for 4 months without cleaning it. Works fine and it wasn't that stained. Didn't melt or anything as you would be led to believe by reading for the forums.

This has not happened to me but I have read a post on Greg Minuskin's website claiming that a certain Noodler's ink does this. He is a well recognized nibsmith and pen restoration expert who had a pen sent with a messed up ink sac and was told they used Noodler's.

Like it was mentioned before, inks are all made differently, even if they're the same kind; meaning not all Noodler's will do this. Just proceed with caution.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 21 July 2015, 21:53:35
Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.

Has this happened to you? Have you tried Noodler's in an ink sac? If so that's perfectly fine but there's a lot of misinformation about Noodler's imo. I have tried it in an ink sac. It's fine. The thing with Noodler's Ink is that the maker is crazy and makes all of these really odd inks. For example he's got a laser proof ink. His conventional inks are perfectly fine, even in vintage pens. It's when you start messing with his weird property inks that weird stuff happens to pens and then people complain.

I ran an experiment when I left Baystate Blue in a pen (Lamy Al Star) for 4 months without cleaning it. Works fine and it wasn't that stained. Didn't melt or anything as you would be led to believe by reading for the forums.

This has not happened to me but I have read a post on Greg Minuskin's website claiming that a certain Noodler's ink does this. He is a well recognized nibsmith and pen restoration expert who had a pen sent with a messed up ink sac and was told they used Noodler's.

Like it was mentioned before, inks are all made differently, even if they're the same kind; meaning not all Noodler's will do this. Just proceed with caution.

The hardest part about inks is knowing what is in them... exactly.  There are inks out there that old heads swear by to use with their sacs that will take paint off of furniture.  Quink for example "Quink blue has a pH of 2.7, Quink black, 3.0," is extremely acidic.  Most old style inks are.  Newer inks made to be used in restored pens are very gentile, and noodlers has, over the years, improved upon their formula in order to reach neutral pH.  They mostly get a bad rap because of poor problem solving.  Noodlers?  That's not a brand I remember from the 1950s, it must ruin this vintage pen that someone poorly cleaned and then managed to get noodlers into it before it was serviced.  I've seen the hate in person at pen shows.  People love it until they know what it is unless they aren't trying to impress some rich dude who fact checks over telegraph through a trusted source.  Can't say I trust latex sacs with anything besides water for extended periods.  Moral of the story?  Clean your old pens well and frequently no matter what ink you use.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 21 July 2015, 22:18:25
Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.

Has this happened to you? Have you tried Noodler's in an ink sac? If so that's perfectly fine but there's a lot of misinformation about Noodler's imo. I have tried it in an ink sac. It's fine. The thing with Noodler's Ink is that the maker is crazy and makes all of these really odd inks. For example he's got a laser proof ink. His conventional inks are perfectly fine, even in vintage pens. It's when you start messing with his weird property inks that weird stuff happens to pens and then people complain.

I ran an experiment when I left Baystate Blue in a pen (Lamy Al Star) for 4 months without cleaning it. Works fine and it wasn't that stained. Didn't melt or anything as you would be led to believe by reading for the forums.

This has not happened to me but I have read a post on Greg Minuskin's website claiming that a certain Noodler's ink does this. He is a well recognized nibsmith and pen restoration expert who had a pen sent with a messed up ink sac and was told they used Noodler's.

Like it was mentioned before, inks are all made differently, even if they're the same kind; meaning not all Noodler's will do this. Just proceed with caution.

Thanks for citing your source.  I googled the name and Noodler's and came up with this (http://gregminuskin.com/?p=3383).  I also found this (http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/care/inks.htm) to be a rather interesting read.

I cannot claim that I know what is going on in these instances, and I don't know what the components of the inks in question are.  Please take my observations with a grain of salt.  There might be something to the claims that this ink can damage the pens with ink sacs.  If so, I doubt it is due to pH.  Most modern ink sacs are made of latex or rubber.  Other materials may have been used in the older 'vintage' pens that Mr. Minuskin works with, but I would not know what they were.  Latex and rubber are quite resistant to somewhat extreme pH values.  That is why we use latex and rubber gloves so often in lab.  They are damaged by other things though.

Consider the following: A sleep deprived grad student named BlueNalgene is working in lab wearing gloves.  Over the course of his sloppy work, he spills three chemicals on the gloves.  The first spill is concentrated hydrochloric acid, the second spill is concentrated nitric acid, and the third spill is tetrahydrofuran.  After each spill, he rinses the gloves off and continues his work.  If we look at each of the spills we would see the following.  The first spill (HCl) would not be visible.  The second spill (HNO_3) would leave the glove slightly orange on that spot. The third spill (THF) would leave a hole in the glove.

The first instance is a strong acid.  Latex is resistant to this, and would not be noticeably affected.  The second one is a strong acid and a strong oxidizer.  The oxidizer would react with some of the latex polymers to, in this case, discolor them.  The third is an organic solvent which does not have a pH.  Latex dissolves readily in this solvent, so it would be expected that it would completely destroy the polymers in the glove. 

The point of my little thought experiment is that the hydrogen ion concentration in the solution should not be damaging the sac.  There are other things that might damage it.  While Mr. Minuskin's observation may be right about Noodler's, pH probably has little to do with it.  The pH would be reasonable to have inflicted the damage that Mr. Binder observed in the second link I provided by pitting metals.

To reiterate: I'm not saying the observation was wrong, just saying their chemistry was wrong.

Here is a nice source for chemical resistance of polymers used in gloves. PDF warning (http://www.ansellpro.com/download/Ansell_8thEditionChemicalResistanceGuide.pdf)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 21 July 2015, 22:24:36
Inks within the same brand/line does differ in performance dependent on which colors you pick. Not sure about the Edelstein since the retail price for them in my country put me off getting them, but I've used the 4001 series in a few pens and never had problems with them, except for flex use. Edelstein is supposed to be wetter flowing than the 4001 series from what I've read on the internet; and have decent performance throughout.

There are many inks on the market that are not really pH neutral, but are still used regularly without any issues. Noodler's ink are mostly not dangerous to use by themselves; bsb seems to be just a rather extreme case. The situation that usually causes problems is when there is residual ink of another brand left unflushed in the pen, and noodler's is thrown into the mix, and they react (fyi, this applies to most inks as well; I've had slight staining from mixing pilot blue black and waterman serenity blue, which had to be scrubbed heavily before it came out, and severe staining from mixing waterman serenity blue and pelikan 4001 brilliant red that I still haven't been able to get out of one of my demos.) Just don't mix noodler's another ink, or even another noodler's unless its specifically stated to be a mixing ink like shah's rose, navajo turquoise etc.

And by the way, I've had pens that I ran over 200 ml of water through the feed using a large syringe, saw that the water was extremely clear, and then removed the nib and feed to still find some ink left behind. So there's always the chance that your pens aren't always as cleanly flushed as you thought.

@genkidama - imo it doesn't sound like an ink problem. despite pilot's overall good qc, I have had several pens from them refusing to write/have hard start problems like yours. The tines were too tight together on one, and I had baby bottoms on another. The first was fixed by flossing and spreading the tines with a brass shim, the second, I reground. Try the brass shims first and see if the problem goes away.

just curious, lefty underwriter or overwriter? if you're an underwriter, you don't really need a fast drying ink. Otherwise, there's a few inks you could look at - Noodler's Bernanke Blue (fast dry), Sailor Sei-Boku (nano particle ink, blue-black, very fast to dry too). I'm lefthanded, write under the line, and use japanese ef and f nibs on a daily basis without issue.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 July 2015, 11:37:36
Has anyone tried the TWSBI Eco?  It looks like an interesting affordable pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:22:44
@genkidama - imo it doesn't sound like an ink problem. despite pilot's overall good qc, I have had several pens from them refusing to write/have hard start problems like yours. The tines were too tight together on one, and I had baby bottoms on another. The first was fixed by flossing and spreading the tines with a brass shim, the second, I reground. Try the brass shims first and see if the problem goes away.
Sorry for the late response!
I'll try that if the other ink (I got a Pilot cartridge for the Metropolitan) won't work. I feel like from the first time I had problems I scratched the paper and probably got some small paper pieces stuck on the the tip of the nib. I'll try flushing/washing the nib hopefully that'll do the trick otherwise I'll get into widening the tines like you said.

just curious, lefty underwriter or overwriter? if you're an underwriter, you don't really need a fast drying ink. Otherwise, there's a few inks you could look at - Noodler's Bernanke Blue (fast dry), Sailor Sei-Boku (nano particle ink, blue-black, very fast to dry too). I'm lefthanded, write under the line, and use japanese ef and f nibs on a daily basis without issue.
I'm a lefty overwriter. How can you write under the line? I know it's more of a thing you get used to but right now I can see my hand cramping up writing under the line  :confused:
I would like to try the Edelstein or Diamine ink first as it's more affordable for me to buy than the other inks. I noted yours inks in my notepad ;-) Still I hope it's more an ink problem than too tight tines. I'm just nervous working on them and probably breaking them  :-[

I tried the Pilot Metropolitan Medium and it writes like a charm no scratching or ink flow problems, everything runs smoothly/normal.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:31:44
Has anyone tried the TWSBI Eco?  It looks like an interesting affordable pen.

Tried it over the weekend. Definitely recommended. Only issue is that it doesn't post. The piston filler is nice. It looks good. Fits in hand nice. And I love TWSBI nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:37:18
Has anyone tried the TWSBI Eco?  It looks like an interesting affordable pen.

It looks like a very basic basic basic but elegant version of their standard piston filler.  I would love to own one, and it's on my list to acquire.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 28 July 2015, 00:33:58
I'm a lefty overwriter. How can you write under the line? I know it's more of a thing you get used to but right now I can see my hand cramping up writing under the line  :confused:
I would like to try the Edelstein or Diamine ink first as it's more affordable for me to buy than the other inks. I noted yours inks in my notepad ;-) Still I hope it's more an ink problem than too tight tines. I'm just nervous working on them and probably breaking them  :-[


I was originally an overwriter (for more than 2 decades in fact). When I first started using fountain pens I was still writing over the line, but adapted to a underwriting style after I starting playing around with flex, and eventually switched fully. Makes pen smoothing a lot less complicated (for lefty overwriters, you have to adjust for high angles and push strokes in addition to the usual smoothing most pens get), and since smudging is no longer an issue, the range of inks I could use expanded, which was great. Plus I found that it actually made my handwriting a lot neater and more consistent without losing any speed.

With regards to cramping, it might be a little related to the balance and ergonomics of the pen. I can write for hours with some of my pens (ie. my Pilot Customs series with soft nibs; and find the 912's weight and slightly wider girth to be better than the custom 74), and feel uncomfortable with others after about thirty minutes (Lamy Safari, Metro). The TWSBI lies somewhere in between - I can write for extended periods without issue, but it doesn't quite feel as nice as my pens with soft nibs, which I prefer when I'm writing on my own paper.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 30 July 2015, 02:58:25
With regards to cramping, it might be a little related to the balance and ergonomics of the pen. I can write for hours with some of my pens (ie. my Pilot Customs series with soft nibs; and find the 912's weight and slightly wider girth to be better than the custom 74), and feel uncomfortable with others after about thirty minutes (Lamy Safari, Metro).
Soft nibs are very pressure sensitive, aren't they? Never tried or have seen a soft nib. Future purchase confirmed ^^

I have tried another ink and my Pilot writes very good, not ink flow problems whatsoever. I think it really was just the ink I had in there (Pelikan 4001). I wrote for about 3-4 mins. So I need to look into different inks that resembles the Pilot ink in their cartridges or just good ink.

I also think that the Pilot Metropolitan is somewhat difficult to write for me. Maybe a softer handle/grip on the pen itself could do the trick? When I work out my hands cramp up but not due to the weight, so I got some "gym pads (soft)" to make the handle more "even" for me. Not sure if you could adapt this onto pens. Just an idea.

What you guys think about Waterman Mysterious Blue (Bleu Mystère)?

The TWSBI lies somewhere in between - I can write for extended periods without issue, but it doesn't quite feel as nice as my pens with soft nibs, which I prefer when I'm writing on my own paper.
Actually I thought about getting a TWSBI pen as they seem very durable/good in quality and have an affordable pricetag. AND there are some with a piston filler system which I have seen in a lot of YT videos.

@Larken When you write under the line, do you tilt your paper slightly to the right? When I try I automatically tilt it a bit to the right.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 30 July 2015, 05:57:17
Pilot soft nibs are slightly sensitive, but unless you're really heavy handed, the tines usually won't spread unless you intentionally press down hard. The FA nib I have does require some conscious effort to use it as a daily writer, while the soft fine doesn't. If I have to choose between a stiff and a soft nib, all things remaining equal, I'd always pick the soft nib. Much more enjoyable writing experience.

For the Pilot Metro, its not so much the weight of the pen, but rather, the rather sharp step up between the barrel and the nib unit; rather uncomfortable for the way I hold my pens. The balance of the pen is actually pretty good. Other than that step-up, I can't find much to complain about the Metro given the price.

Waterman inks are generally regarded as one of the best behaving inks in terms of flow, low maintenance, and performance. The only drawback is that they're not water resistant; a quick spritz of water will ruin the page and you can pretty much wash out the page with enough water. Not a problem if you don't get your paper wet.

I don't tilt my paper. There's no standard way; it's more of a personal preference thing. Do whatever feels natural.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:14:10
I think I need to read more about the soft nibs and thanks for your opinion on Waterman inks! :) It's very "cheap", I can buy one 50ml bottle for around 6€. I think this would be around 7$ with current exchange rates.  :thumb:

I'm watching some videos and reading some articles regarding underhand writing. I wanna give it another try. Although my writing is much more pleasent with a fountain pen it still hurts and my hands cramp up. Hopefully this'll help or gives me some insight to make my own adjustments.

I would like to get back to you for underhand writing if necessary, thanks again.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:23:04
FWIW, all of the nib tuning specialists I've talked to and work with use Waterman inks. Solid inks and safe for any pen. I don't like their color palette though. Needs more purples and pinks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:24:42
The purple you wrote Tactile Zine adress with was hella cool !
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:27:51
The purple you wrote Tactile Zine adress with was hella cool !

Thanks! That's Rohrer and Klinger Scabiosa. I love the purple and it's an iron gall ink. It should last as long as the paper does so even if it gets wet, the ink will stay on the paper. Really good for say, putting addresses on zine envelopes ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:29:58
The purple you wrote Tactile Zine adress with was hella cool !

Thanks! That's Rohrer and Klinger Scabiosa. I love the purple and it's an iron gall ink. It should last as long as the paper does so even if it gets wet, the ink will stay on the paper. Really good for say, putting addresses on zine envelopes ;)

Oh really? I'll wet it tonight to see.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:48:02
FWIW, all of the nib tuning specialists I've talked to and work with use Waterman inks. Solid inks and safe for any pen. I don't like their color palette though. Needs more purples and pinks.

Very much agreed on both points. I usually ink new pens up with waterman inks; if the pen doesn't work, my next action nis usually to figure out what's wrong with the pen. Still like Florida Blue, but overall their color range is a little too boring. I still have several bottles of them which are now being neglected because I have gotten prettier inks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:56:18

I would like to get back to you for underhand writing if necessary, thanks again.

http://www.nibs.com/Left-hand%20writers.htm

#1 on that page is probably the most common way to do it, but keep in mind that there's no hard and fast rules. I've tried that for a while but didn't enjoy having to tilt my head to keep in line with the page. Imo comfort is key.

I write keeping the paper straight and the pen angled to the southwest (assuming the top of the paper is north), which doesn't fit any of the methods listed on the link, but it works very well for me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 30 July 2015, 10:57:19
FWIW, all of the nib tuning specialists I've talked to and work with use Waterman inks. Solid inks and safe for any pen. I don't like their color palette though. Needs more purples and pinks.

I know a lot who swear by Diamine too.  I love their inks :3  Although R&K iron galls are amazing especially Scabiosa like you use on your zine.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 11:15:06
FWIW, all of the nib tuning specialists I've talked to and work with use Waterman inks. Solid inks and safe for any pen. I don't like their color palette though. Needs more purples and pinks.

I know a lot who swear by Diamine too.  I love their inks :3  Although R&K iron galls are amazing especially Scabiosa like you use on your zine.

I swear by Diamine bro <3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 30 July 2015, 14:04:56

I would like to get back to you for underhand writing if necessary, thanks again.

http://www.nibs.com/Left-hand%20writers.htm

#1 on that page is probably the most common way to do it, but keep in mind that there's no hard and fast rules. I've tried that for a while but didn't enjoy having to tilt my head to keep in line with the page. Imo comfort is key.

I write keeping the paper straight and the pen angled to the southwest (assuming the top of the paper is north), which doesn't fit any of the methods listed on the link, but it works very well for me.

I agree with you and I'll just take the suggestions I find as hints and see where I go with it.
On that list I'm totally a #3 and many many years ago I was a #2.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BIZ! on Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:45:46
Lamy Safari with the ink converter and Noodler's Kingfisher Blue is the way to go.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 10 August 2015, 13:01:44

Did it just get sexy in here?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 12 August 2015, 18:38:33


A while back, there was some discussion about pH of inks here (see
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Just be careful if your pen uses an ink sac. The acidic nature of Noodler's inks can ruin them very quickly. Should be fine for most pens though.

Has this happened to you? Have you tried Noodler's in an ink sac? If so that's perfectly fine but there's a lot of misinformation about Noodler's imo. I have tried it in an ink sac. It's fine. The thing with Noodler's Ink is that the maker is crazy and makes all of these really odd inks. For example he's got a laser proof ink. His conventional inks are perfectly fine, even in vintage pens. It's when you start messing with his weird property inks that weird stuff happens to pens and then people complain.

I ran an experiment when I left Baystate Blue in a pen (Lamy Al Star) for 4 months without cleaning it. Works fine and it wasn't that stained. Didn't melt or anything as you would be led to believe by reading for the forums.

This has not happened to me but I have read a post on Greg Minuskin's website claiming that a certain Noodler's ink does this. He is a well recognized nibsmith and pen restoration expert who had a pen sent with a messed up ink sac and was told they used Noodler's.

Like it was mentioned before, inks are all made differently, even if they're the same kind; meaning not all Noodler's will do this. Just proceed with caution.

Thanks for citing your source.  I googled the name and Noodler's and came up with this (http://gregminuskin.com/?p=3383).  I also found this (http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/care/inks.htm) to be a rather interesting read.

I cannot claim that I know what is going on in these instances, and I don't know what the components of the inks in question are.  Please take my observations with a grain of salt.  There might be something to the claims that this ink can damage the pens with ink sacs.  If so, I doubt it is due to pH.  Most modern ink sacs are made of latex or rubber.  Other materials may have been used in the older 'vintage' pens that Mr. Minuskin works with, but I would not know what they were.  Latex and rubber are quite resistant to somewhat extreme pH values.  That is why we use latex and rubber gloves so often in lab.  They are damaged by other things though.

Consider the following: A sleep deprived grad student named BlueNalgene is working in lab wearing gloves.  Over the course of his sloppy work, he spills three chemicals on the gloves.  The first spill is concentrated hydrochloric acid, the second spill is concentrated nitric acid, and the third spill is tetrahydrofuran.  After each spill, he rinses the gloves off and continues his work.  If we look at each of the spills we would see the following.  The first spill (HCl) would not be visible.  The second spill (HNO_3) would leave the glove slightly orange on that spot. The third spill (THF) would leave a hole in the glove.

The first instance is a strong acid.  Latex is resistant to this, and would not be noticeably affected.  The second one is a strong acid and a strong oxidizer.  The oxidizer would react with some of the latex polymers to, in this case, discolor them.  The third is an organic solvent which does not have a pH.  Latex dissolves readily in this solvent, so it would be expected that it would completely destroy the polymers in the glove. 

The point of my little thought experiment is that the hydrogen ion concentration in the solution should not be damaging the sac.  There are other things that might damage it.  While Mr. Minuskin's observation may be right about Noodler's, pH probably has little to do with it.  The pH would be reasonable to have inflicted the damage that Mr. Binder observed in the second link I provided by pitting metals.

To reiterate: I'm not saying the observation was wrong, just saying their chemistry was wrong.

Here is a nice source for chemical resistance of polymers used in gloves. PDF warning (http://www.ansellpro.com/download/Ansell_8thEditionChemicalResistanceGuide.pdf)
for some background).  During that discussion, I offered to test inks and CPTBadass offered to donate some samples for my tests (see
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Bulletproof Polar Brown is my every day ink, and it is the only ink I use to write my notes in my lab notebook.   I could run a pH test on it tomorrow if anyone would be interested.

I'm extremely interested. In fact, if you don't mind, could I send you some other inks? My everyday is Noodler's North African Violet.

I'd be happy to.  PM if you need me to give you my address again.  Testing with a pH strip would be difficult since the analysis is based on color change.  I will do them all at once on the pH probe.  It gives more precise results (+/- .01 pH unit).  But I will need ~2 mL to do that test, whereas the pH strip would only require 4 drops.
for that discussion).  Today I received samples from our good CPT in the mail, and I went about running tests.  This post is the outcome of that work.


The Samples

Four samples were procured from CPTBadass and one was supplied by the author.

(http://i.imgur.com/6dFS9lF.jpg)

Noodler's Baystate Blue - a vibrant royal blue ink
Rohrer & Klingner Scabiosa - an iron gall ink
Noodler's North African Violet - an intense violet ink
Diamine Soft Mint - an ink that appeared turquoise or aqua in the bulk solution
Noodler's Polar Brown - a somewhat rust tinged brown ink

Upon receipt, the samples were transferred to 20mL plastic scintillation vials.  The original containers' opening was too small to accomodate the probe used in the pH experiments.


1. Shake Tests

Method

Samples in scintillation vials were given a quick shake and observed for fluid and surface characteristics.

Results

InkObservations
Noodler's Baystate BlueInk left a thin layer coating the wall that persisted for a long time.  This thin layer did not show any detail of the plastic surface.  It produced bubbles,
Rohrer & Klingner ScabiosaInk left a very thin layer coating the wall that persisted for some time.  The layer highlighted plastic imperfections of the bottle by contrast.  It produced bubbles.
Noodler's North African VioletInk left a very thin layer coating the wall that persisted for some time.  The layer highlighted some plastic imperfections of the bottle by contrast.  It produced bubbles.
Diamine Soft MintInk did not coat walls.  Preferred cohesion and formed small islands of liquid on the plastic surface.  It produced NO bubbles.
Noodler's Polar BrownInk left a very thin layer coating the wall that persisted for a long time.  The layer highlighted plastic imperfections of the bottle by contrast.  It produced many/large bubbles.  Bubbles appeared to grow over time.


Discussion

The surface coating indicates that there was interaction with the walls of the container.  Since the plastic was either polyethylene or polypropylene, we expect the walls to be hydrophobic.  The inks which wetted the surface well interacted with the plastic surface.  Since bubbles were formed, we can assume that the interaction with the wall was due to surfactant in the ink reducing the surface energy allowing this prolonged contact.  The lack of coating in the Diamine sample suggests that it is highly hydrophilic.  The lack of bubbles suggests that no surfactant was added to the ink during manufacturing.


2. pH Test

Method

Samples were tested for hydrogen ion concentration using a Vernier pH probe connected to a computer running the logging software.  The probe was calibrated immediately before the experiment with a pH 4.00 buffer standard (Fisher - methyl alcohol, formaldehyde, and potassium hydrogen phthalate) and a pH 10.00 buffer standard (Fisher - disodium EDTA dihydrate, potassium carbonate, potassium borate, potassium hydroxide).  The lab temperature was 25C, and the standard pH did not need adjusted from the label value based on this temperature.

(http://i.imgur.com/6TxgSml.jpg)

Results

InkpH
Noodler's Baystate Blue3.97
Rohrer & Klingner Scabiosa2.33*
Noodler's North African Violet4.60
Diamine Soft Mint4.00
Noodler's Polar Brown8.78

Discussion

The majority of the inks were slightly acidic in nature, and the Polar Brown ink was slightly basic.  The iron gall based ink was quite acidic.  This ink pH is marked with an asterisk(*) since the pH was not stable.  The value continually drifted downward, trending toward acidity.  The value used here was the observed pH value after 15 minutes of attempted stabilization.  After the experiments were complete, the pH probe was observed to be slightly discolored.  To determine how this effected the results, the standards were measured with the discolored probe.  The 4.00 buffer measured 3.74, and the 10.00 buffer measured 9.88.  This indicates that the results are probably skewed downward by ~0.25 pH units.  The results were not corrected for this error, since it would be difficult to quantify the error without much experimentation.  The probe was cleaned by soaking in 2% nitric acid for 30 minutes.  After this time, the probe was deemed 'clean' and returned to storage.

The results of this experiment should clear up a few misconceptions.  Notably, none of the inks in this less than comprehensive test were pH neutral.  Some sources discussed previously make claims based on the acid or base nature of inks based on brand.  Clearly, this is not a wise assessment.  The brand with three different inks in the test (Noodler's) showed a wide range of pH values.  Some outside sources suggest that acidic inks may damage pens.  Most of the inks tested were acidic.  No metal based tests were performed in this experiment, but this author believes that the correlation between metal pitting and acid content of an ink may be spurious.

3. Solvent Tests

Method

In this test, a small quantity of ink was deposited onto a strip of printer paper (Staples Brand) and partially submerged in solvent.  The ink was applied to the paper by smearing one or two drops from a disposable plastic pipette on the paper.  All labels on the samples were written in pencil.  The ink was allowed to dry then tested.  Most strips were folded so they would stand and set in a petri dish with the testing solution for five minutes. These tests were broken up into aqueous, organic, and chlorinated solvent groups to prevent unwanted reactions.

(http://i.imgur.com/XVVn0fT.jpg)

The wet papers were then taped to a rail in the hood to dry.

(http://i.imgur.com/fOlnOxV.jpg)

One strip was tested under a 18.4 W long wave UV lamp for one hour.  One strip was left as a control.

Results

(http://i.imgur.com/hR77I2n.jpg)
Control

The numbers represent the inks Noodler's Baystate Blue, Rohrer & Klingner Scabiosa, Noodler's North African Violet, Diamine Soft Mint, and Noodler's Polar Brown respectively.  The inks were not applied evenly, and some spreading, especially in samples 3-5 was due to large drops.  The Polar Brown ink naturally feathers a great deal on this paper, and the Scabiosa and North African Violet inks showed some feathering.  The Soft Mint ink naturally spread, but did not show feathering.

(http://i.imgur.com/nQvZdF8.jpg)
Water

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minimal featheringfeatheringfeatheringspread and lossNo Change (NC)



(http://i.imgur.com/kvAekUy.jpg)
Ethanol

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upward driftsome upward spreadupward driftupward driftedge reddening



(http://i.imgur.com/uxswnLc.jpg)
Acetone

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some spreadNCfeatheringupward driftNC



(http://i.imgur.com/zhoF7Di.jpg)
Isopropanol

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upward driftsome featheringsome feathering/driftsome driftNC



(http://i.imgur.com/WhnziWl.jpg)
Toluene

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upward driftNCminor driftNCedge reddening



(http://i.imgur.com/CspPjwX.jpg)
Nitric Acid (~4%)

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gone, yellow edgealmost gone, blue edgealmost gone, green edgegoneNC



(http://i.imgur.com/GDRZQs7.jpg)
Hydrochloric Acid (~4%)

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gone, yellow edgealmost gone, blue edgealmost gone, green edgegone/upward driftedge reddening



(http://i.imgur.com/xA20NoK.jpg)
Dichloromethane

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upward driftfeatheringupward drift/featheringminor upward driftyellow color separation



(http://i.imgur.com/PwQK9tk.jpg)
UV Exposure

12345
NCNCNCNCNC



Discussion
There is a great deal of information to be learned from these tests.  What we are looking at is actually a very rudimentary form of thin layer chromotography.  The paper acts as a stationary phase and the solvent as a mobile phase.  The mobile phase moves our eluent along the capillaries within the paper fiber matrix.  If we let this go for a long time, we would see the individual components separate from each other.  There are better methods to perform that experiment though, and it was not in the scope of this one.  The goal of the test was to determine the stability of the ink when in contact with the solvents.  In doing this, we can learn something about the character of the ink. 

Different solvents have different polarities.  The polarity of a molecule being the concentration of electrons on one side of an atom and exposed protons on the other side.  We can relate these by a polarity index:

(http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/159941026.png)

Since "like dissolves like" if something is moved or dissolved by more polar solvents, then the material must be polar.  So we can see that the Diamine ink is more polar than the quite nonpolar Baystate Blue based on what different solvents do to it.

The Polar Brown ink interestingly slightly drifts in both polar and nonpolar solvents.  If you look closely (probably not visible in pictures), you can see a yellow component separate out in nonpolar solvents and a red component separate out in polar solvents.  These colors moving out of the bulk drop only slightly affect a color change in the brown.

I chose the two acids to test here on purpose.  We would expect the HCl to react mostly as an acid, whereas the HNO3 would react as both an acid and a strong oxidizer.  Since both of the acids had similar effects on the inks, we can see that none of the inks oxidize easily - which speaks well for the permanence of these inks. 

Future tests would include solvents with polarity index of 0.

The lack of change due to UV light is good, though this author would like to point out that this was not a very strong source.  Future tests should attempt to use more powerful sources such as a laser.


A. Errata
All solvents were obtained from Pharmaco Aaper with purity >99.5% except the nitric acid, which was obtained from Fisher. 

All water used in the experiments was reagent grade, purified by reverse osmosis to resistance of >18Mohms.

I would like to thank CPTBadass again for his donations and my advisor for being out of town this week so I could do silly experiments like this without getting yelled at.

Thank you for reading, I would be happy to address any questions or comments you may have about this work.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 12 August 2015, 19:08:04
I approve and think these findings are highly interesting.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:09:17
Ok, with the inclusion of science, NOW it got sexy in this thread.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:56:25
And the "pH neutral" myth of Noodler's inks is now shattered. Of course, the test should be made with many other inks, in special Noodler's Black. Other than that, it is good to see that BSB, which is sold as an "slightly alcaline" ink is, in fact, quite acidic.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Thu, 13 August 2015, 12:16:50
Do you think the fountain pen network people would like this?  I don't have an account there and I don't know their culture.  People are welcome to crosspost this info there if they'd like.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 13 August 2015, 13:39:53
Do you think the fountain pen network people would like this?  I don't have an account there and I don't know their culture.  People are welcome to crosspost this info there if they'd like.
I think that this kind of post, strictly to the facts, would be welcome there. But I'm not as active there as I'm here, so I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 13 August 2015, 20:14:30
Just posted the testing on FPN, I hope they will like it there. If anyone wants to read the discussion there, here is the link: http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/295309-testing-ink-samples-on-a-laboratory/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Thu, 13 August 2015, 21:11:00
Just posted the testing on FPN, I hope they will like it there. If anyone wants to read the discussion there, here is the link: http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/295309-testing-ink-samples-on-a-laboratory/

Neato, it seems like a receptive audience.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 13 August 2015, 21:36:36
I loved you before it was cool BlueNalgene
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Fri, 14 August 2015, 02:32:08
Your post confused me when I found a geekhack link in /r/fountainpens :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:57:03
Your post confused me when I found a geekhack link in /r/fountainpens :)

Pens with MX switches?

Also dat sexy science. Hnnnngh.

I keep being drawn to this kind of stuff because ink is pretty, but my handwriting is terrible, I never actually need to write anything but address labels, and my drawing sucks anyway. Also it seems like an even bigger money sink than keyboards what with the cost of pens and all.

But still so pretty.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:26:44
Your post confused me when I found a geekhack link in /r/fountainpens :)

Pens with MX switches?

Also dat sexy science. Hnnnngh.

I keep being drawn to this kind of stuff because ink is pretty, but my handwriting is terrible, I never actually need to write anything but address labels, and my drawing sucks anyway. Also it seems like an even bigger money sink than keyboards what with the cost of pens and all.

But still so pretty.

I have awful handwriting, though if I put my mind to it I can do some competent calligraphy.  I use fountain pens because I require inks with resistance to many things I encounter in my work so my notebooks don't get damaged (see the solvent tests).  Having to learn how to work with a nib has actually improved my handwriting.  I would encourage you to try some of the cheaper options without thinking you are going to dive into another wallet sink, like I have done.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 15 August 2015, 14:52:02
People on /r/fountainpens started to test their inks, inspired on the previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/3h494k/ph_testing_of_various_noodlers_waterman_and/ :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:41:15
People on /r/fountainpens started to test their inks, inspired on the previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/3h494k/ph_testing_of_various_noodlers_waterman_and/ :D

Holy crap.  My first peer review.  I wonder if I can put this on my CV.  Would Geekhack count as an academic journal?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:50:52
Good to see other fountain pen people! I don't have any pictures of my handwriting, unfortunately. I use a TWSBI Vac700 medium for my every day note taking and at work. Currently it is loaded with Noodler's AirCorp. I absolutely adore black/blues. It's like their formal, but like to party. I'm running low on ink though. I'll probably ink it up with a BungBox ink next (whenever they show up...).

Also use:
-Noodler's Forest
-Pilot Metropolitan (medium)

I want to pick up another demonstrator whenever I start my full-time job. I'll probably load it up with a red, in which case it'll be used VERY frequently. Which demonstrator I get is up in the air. Considered the Pilot Custom 92 for a while. I might go with a TWSBI ECO, but I'd really like to try a Pelikan, Sailor, or higher end Pilot. One thing is for certain: it has to be a demonstrator.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:28:56
Just bought another fountain pen....
I couldn't help it, I saw a keyhole...  :-[
(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/iamtrap/IMG_6900_zpszilb0xf8.jpg)
I can see some odd skips on the flexing but I'm pretty sure this was because it was just dip tested.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 15 August 2015, 18:09:38
Just bought another fountain pen....
I couldn't help it, I saw a keyhole...  :-[
Show Image
(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/iamtrap/IMG_6900_zpszilb0xf8.jpg)

I can see some odd skips on the flexing but I'm pretty sure this was because it was just dip tested.

That is great writing my friend :) consider me cosmic jelly on toast.

(http://i.imgur.com/FuZyuAo.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 15 August 2015, 18:20:32
Just bought another fountain pen....
I couldn't help it, I saw a keyhole...  :-[
Show Image
(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/iamtrap/IMG_6900_zpszilb0xf8.jpg)

I can see some odd skips on the flexing but I'm pretty sure this was because it was just dip tested.

That is great writing my friend :) consider me cosmic jelly on toast.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FuZyuAo.gif)


Oops. Not my writing. When I say I just bought it I mean I just bought it. That is the work of someone else.
However, I will not disappoint you when I get the pen.
I've much improved on my writing myself.
That type of writing is close to my style except that I put a lot more accentuation and expression on capital letters and have a more extreme slant.

You can see my actual writing here:
(http://i.imgur.com/V2vb4CC.jpg)
****ty photo but it gets the point across.
I still need work on my flourish as my curves need lots of work. Also a shame that I didn't have a flex nib to show off true calligraphy.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 17 August 2015, 23:45:12
Just bought another fountain pen....
I couldn't help it, I saw a keyhole...  :-[
Show Image
(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/iamtrap/IMG_6900_zpszilb0xf8.jpg)

I can see some odd skips on the flexing but I'm pretty sure this was because it was just dip tested.

That is great writing my friend :) consider me cosmic jelly on toast.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FuZyuAo.gif)


Oops. Not my writing. When I say I just bought it I mean I just bought it. That is the work of someone else.
However, I will not disappoint you when I get the pen.
I've much improved on my writing myself.
That type of writing is close to my style except that I put a lot more accentuation and expression on capital letters and have a more extreme slant.

You can see my actual writing here:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/V2vb4CC.jpg)

****ty photo but it gets the point across.
I still need work on my flourish as my curves need lots of work. Also a shame that I didn't have a flex nib to show off true calligraphy.

You aren't bad man :) keep it up!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:07:44
Good to see other fountain pen people! I don't have any pictures of my handwriting, unfortunately. I use a TWSBI Vac700 medium for my every day note taking and at work. Currently it is loaded with Noodler's AirCorp. I absolutely adore black/blues. It's like their formal, but like to party. I'm running low on ink though. I'll probably ink it up with a BungBox ink next (whenever they show up...).

Also use:
-Noodler's Forest
-Pilot Metropolitan (medium)

I want to pick up another demonstrator whenever I start my full-time job. I'll probably load it up with a red, in which case it'll be used VERY frequently. Which demonstrator I get is up in the air. Considered the Pilot Custom 92 for a while. I might go with a TWSBI ECO, but I'd really like to try a Pelikan, Sailor, or higher end Pilot. One thing is for certain: it has to be a demonstrator.

I've been really curious about the BungBox ink but I'm also trying not to buy anymore ink until I use what I have. I really like my Pilot 92 and 74 demonstrators. But I've fallen in love with Pelikan demonstrators :D.

People on /r/fountainpens started to test their inks, inspired on the previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/3h494k/ph_testing_of_various_noodlers_waterman_and/ :D

Holy crap.  My first peer review.  I wonder if I can put this on my CV.  Would Geekhack count as an academic journal?

Totally counts ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:19:40
Good to see other fountain pen people! I don't have any pictures of my handwriting, unfortunately. I use a TWSBI Vac700 medium for my every day note taking and at work. Currently it is loaded with Noodler's AirCorp. I absolutely adore black/blues. It's like their formal, but like to party. I'm running low on ink though. I'll probably ink it up with a BungBox ink next (whenever they show up...).

Also use:
-Noodler's Forest
-Pilot Metropolitan (medium)

I want to pick up another demonstrator whenever I start my full-time job. I'll probably load it up with a red, in which case it'll be used VERY frequently. Which demonstrator I get is up in the air. Considered the Pilot Custom 92 for a while. I might go with a TWSBI ECO, but I'd really like to try a Pelikan, Sailor, or higher end Pilot. One thing is for certain: it has to be a demonstrator.

I've been really curious about the BungBox ink but I'm also trying not to buy anymore ink until I use what I have. I really like my Pilot 92 and 74 demonstrators. But I've fallen in love with Pelikan demonstrators :D.


I have about 4 inks right now. I think it's time I get a second good pen. First time branching out from Noodler's ink with the BungBox inks (I started the Massdrop BungBox buy - I'm so proud of that).

I'll probably pick up the Pilot 92 first, and then buy a Pelikan down the line. I want the M805 so bad, but I just can't pull that off at this time.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:21:22
I have about 4 inks right now. I think it's time I get a second good pen. First time branching out from Noodler's ink with the BungBox inks (I started the Massdrop BungBox buy - I'm so proud of that).

I'll probably pick up the Pilot 92 first, and then buy a Pelikan down the line. I want the M805 so bad, but I just can't pull that off at this time.

Congrats on getting the buy together! I was thinking about joining it but like I said I've got more than I can use.

I'm really into the M2XX demonstrators but I have a M605 Marine Blue that's lovely as well. Pelikan <3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 18 August 2015, 11:35:47
I have about 4 inks right now. I think it's time I get a second good pen. First time branching out from Noodler's ink with the BungBox inks (I started the Massdrop BungBox buy - I'm so proud of that).

I'll probably pick up the Pilot 92 first, and then buy a Pelikan down the line. I want the M805 so bad, but I just can't pull that off at this time.

Congrats on getting the buy together! I was thinking about joining it but like I said I've got more than I can use.

I'm really into the M2XX demonstrators but I have a M605 Marine Blue that's lovely as well. Pelikan <3

Thank you! It was such a surprise to see it made the buy. I have seen a handful of group buys over at /r/fountainpens, but I always seem to miss them.

The M2XX stuff looks great too. I was thinking one of those would be more appropriate for me. I think the M805 demonstrator is my grail pen at the moment.
Title: Noodler's is changing their 3 oz. bottles from glass to plastic
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:08:40
Long story short: the glass bottles are not as available now than before and to avoid increasing prices Nathan Tardiff changed to plastic temporarily.

I don't agree with the political and economical beliefs of Mr. Tardiff, but I must applaud his commitment to his beliefs. You can hear himself speaking about them on this video:


It seems that the 1 oz. & 4.5 oz. bottles will still be made of glass, if what Brian Rachel Goulet says is true: http://blog.gouletpens.com/2015/08/plastic-noodlers-bottles-yes-for-now.html
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:49:26
Long story short: the glass bottles are not as available now than before and to avoid increasing prices Nathan Tardiff changed to plastic temporarily.

I don't agree with the political and economical beliefs of Mr. Tardiff, but I must applaud his commitment to his beliefs. You can hear himself speaking about them on this video:



It seems that the 1 oz. & 4.5 oz. bottles will still be made of glass, if what Brian Rachel Goulet says is true: http://blog.gouletpens.com/2015/08/plastic-noodlers-bottles-yes-for-now.html

It's really not like they were that nice of bottles to begin with..

I don't see how this matters.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 19 August 2015, 16:55:00
It's really not like they were that nice of bottles to begin with..

I don't see how this matters.
Plastic is porous (even it being microscopic pores, but still porous) and allows more ink evaporation than glass bottles (only the cap is a factor, instead of the whole bottle).

I agree with you, Noodler's bottles aren't that nice, just get the job done. In a matter of fact, the bottles should be amber colored to protect the ink from UV light, but that's me nitpicking.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Wed, 19 August 2015, 17:02:52
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Edit: small mistake, please disregard
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 08:45:54
Just ordered some new inks and a couple pens for the first time in a while.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 29 August 2015, 08:54:02
Just ordered some new inks and a couple pens for the first time in a while.

What did you pick up?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 09:03:56
Just ordered some new inks and a couple pens for the first time in a while.

What did you pick up?

The New TWSBI Eco (Black)
Noodles Nikita red (with free pen, i think its an ahab)
Noodlers Nib Creaper rollerball (also piston, like the eco)
Diamine Sherwood green
Noodlers Borealis Black (with another free pen of some sort)

It was all on a belated gift I didn't even know was sent to me.

If one of the freebies ends up being an Ahab, I'm gonna convert it to an eyedropper conversion.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:25:17
Just ordered some new inks and a couple pens for the first time in a while.

What did you pick up?

Noodles Nikita red (with free pen, i think its an ahab)

If one of the freebies ends up being an Ahab, I'm gonna convert it to an eyedropper conversion.

So I ended up getting the Nikita early, (ordered Saturday, recieved it on Monday morning) and it came with not one, but two free pens, one of which is the 'Charlie' pen, and the other being a different Noodler's eyedropper (not the ahab like i was expecting) of some other model I'm not sure the name of.

I filled up the Charlie and its pretty small in the hand, with a rather fine nib, but I quite like it, no tuning needed to get it working off the bat. The Nikita red is also a very enjoyable color and dries pretty well.

I'll upload a picture when I'm done playing around with it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: keshley on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:37:42
This thread makes me want to write more  :D

I really like the Diamine inks personally. Think I'm using their copper red in my TWSBI Mini. It doesn't get used very often, so I'd have to find the bottle to verify.

My TWSBI 540 has some Pelikan black variation in it. Its not bad either, very black.

And my GF's Parker 51 knockoff has some home-made ink in it, of the blue variety.

No recollection what my Mont Blanc has in it because I don't like the pen. It's sitting in a box somewhere collecting dust.

I only use ultra-fine nibs as I write pretty small. I'll try to see if I have some examples of the Diamine - it looks kind of like dried blood, pretty unique color.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:00:10
This thread makes me want to write more  :D

I really like the Diamine inks personally. Think I'm using their copper red in my TWSBI Mini. It doesn't get used very often, so I'd have to find the bottle to verify.

My TWSBI 540 has some Pelikan black variation in it. Its not bad either, very black.

And my GF's Parker 51 knockoff has some home-made ink in it, of the blue variety.

No recollection what my Mont Blanc has in it because I don't like the pen. It's sitting in a box somewhere collecting dust.

I only use ultra-fine nibs as I write pretty small. I'll try to see if I have some examples of the Diamine - it looks kind of like dried blood, pretty unique color.

This is my first outing for Diamine and Twsbi, but I am excited to use both. These are all the first outing for non cartridge based Pens and Inks for me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 10:18:34
I attend a monthly fountain pen club meeting in Cincinnati. It's pretty fun. There's a few repair people who attend too. A co-worker and myself were talking about fountain pens and he told me about his parent's fountain pens that he had found. An Esterbrook, a Wahl-Eversharp, and a Pick fountain pen (made in Cincinnati). I had the repairman fix up the pens and today my co-worker and I tried out the Esterbrook. It's a J (I think) in Rootbeer with a 9886 nib (Fine, stiff, steel nib). It wrote so nicely and the pen was re-sacced and polished.

Felt really cool to see someone kinda remember a part of their parents' history through the pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Wed, 02 September 2015, 19:27:40
I attend a monthly fountain pen club meeting in Cincinnati. It's pretty fun. There's a few repair people who attend too. A co-worker and myself were talking about fountain pens and he told me about his parent's fountain pens that he had found. An Esterbrook, a Wahl-Eversharp, and a Pick fountain pen (made in Cincinnati). I had the repairman fix up the pens and today my co-worker and I tried out the Esterbrook. It's a J (I think) in Rootbeer with a 9886 nib (Fine, stiff, steel nib). It wrote so nicely and the pen was re-sacced and polished.

Felt really cool to see someone kinda remember a part of their parents' history through the pen.


But no photos!?   :'(   :'(

Don't you know I have to experience fancy pens vicariously through you guys!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 02 September 2015, 21:27:21
I'll try and grab a photo tomorrow. Not supposed to take pics at work. Esterbrooks are actually a good intro to vintage pens! Very affordable.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Thu, 03 September 2015, 11:23:09
New ink! J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5711/20911428089_9e84544a8b_k.jpg)


The shimmer is awesome, but I really love how the same color ink looks red or blue depending on how thick it goes down! It's a lot of fun to draw/stipple with.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/768/21105928301_f8da7afffa_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 03 September 2015, 15:15:06
^ wow!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 September 2015, 15:24:27
When I grow up, I wanna write and draw like booper
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 03 September 2015, 17:13:24
Wow this looks amazing Booper! That octopus is gorgeous  :eek:

So I was thinking of getting another pen and am eyeing with a TWSBI Eco. TWSBI are using western nibs right? Meaning due to liking the Pilot Metropolitan with a fine nib I would need to get an EF nib with the Eco right?
Anybody got one and can tell me if it's scratchy, still smooth while writing or general thoughts? Would be my first TWSBI pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 September 2015, 17:42:49
Yeah you'll want an EF I think. Even though twsbi is Taiwanese their nibs are bock so German and follow the European thicknesses. You'll want to double check that. Anything under medium makes me sad and EF makes me cringe so idk how that feels. But I love the broad nib on my 580.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 03 September 2015, 18:58:30
Yeah you'll want an EF I think. Even though twsbi is Taiwanese their nibs are bock so German and follow the European thicknesses. You'll want to double check that. Anything under medium makes me sad and EF makes me cringe so idk how that feels. But I love the broad nib on my 580.

Well just because they use Bock as a manufacturer does not mean that they use German spec.
Bock uses whatever spec is requested of them as Bock nibs can vary greatly across different companies/pens.
That being said, TWSBI nibs are very much "true" to their sizes. A fine will perform the same as an average fine. (i.e. European fine)

TWSBI does have some issues with ink flow and being dry, however with an EF nib you won't see any issues. The polishing is also done well.
I don't own a TWSBI myself so I cannot be certain of anything, however this is what I have heard and read.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 03 September 2015, 20:00:29

New ink! J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor

Show Image
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5711/20911428089_9e84544a8b_k.jpg)



The shimmer is awesome, but I really love how the same color ink looks red or blue depending on how thick it goes down! It's a lot of fun to draw/stipple with.
Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/768/21105928301_f8da7afffa_k.jpg)


TIL Booper is a goddess in yet another two ways (drawing and calligraphy).

Yall. The women of GH are crazy cool. 🏻
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 03 September 2015, 20:05:19
Also I'm sad. My celluloid Stipula had some issues with cracking around the feed. So I sent it to my go-to shop in Rome because I know them and they can deal with the factory in Florence for me.

Well the freaking factory charged me 50 euros for the repair that is a known issue with the Etruria. So now I gotta pay that, in addition to the customs fees, shipping, etc. all told is almost $110 (97 euros). 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 03 September 2015, 22:43:07
Wow this looks amazing Booper! That octopus is gorgeous  :eek:

So I was thinking of getting another pen and am eyeing with a TWSBI Eco. TWSBI are using western nibs right? Meaning due to liking the Pilot Metropolitan with a fine nib I would need to get an EF nib with the Eco right?
Anybody got one and can tell me if it's scratchy, still smooth while writing or general thoughts? Would be my first TWSBI pen.

Yeah you'll want an EF I think. Even though twsbi is Taiwanese their nibs are bock so German and follow the European thicknesses. You'll want to double check that. Anything under medium makes me sad and EF makes me cringe so idk how that feels. But I love the broad nib on my 580.

Afaik, they stopped using Bock after a few initial batches of the 580. The nibs used by TWSBI now are made by Jowo, which by most reports seem to have more consistency out of the box.

For a reference on tipping size, you can refer to: http://www.nibs.com/TippingSizespage.htm

That said, the Jowo nib is going to have more feedback than the Pilot out of the box. It's not so much the fault of Jowo, whose nibs are smooth and nice; Pilot nibs tend to be polished (some say over-polished and almost gives a deadened-feel) to a near-mirror finish at the factory. Nothing you can't fix with some tuning knowledge on your own end.

However, my initial experience with the TWSBI wasn't that great due to being a lefty overwriter; that usually needs additional tuning to be done.

Also I'm sad. My celluloid Stipula had some issues with cracking around the feed. So I sent it to my go-to shop in Rome because I know them and they can deal with the factory in Florence for me.

Well the freaking factory charged me 50 euros for the repair that is a known issue with the Etruria. So now I gotta pay that, in addition to the customs fees, shipping, etc. all told is almost $110 (97 euros). 

Wow, that repair cost  :eek:.That is terrible service, especially if its a common problem with the pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 04 September 2015, 14:14:33
Yeah, I've heard so much about TWSBI being a good and smooth pen for daily use. I wanted to try it out, TWSBI has a good value for money as I've heard and the Eco pen seems reasonable for me.
Then I'll try the EF nib and if the feedback is too much I'll try to polish or rather tune it in some way.

I hope I'll get an other experience with TWSBI as you Larken, I'm still an overwriter. With the Pilot I got I felt the feedback, after some time and getting used to the pen I didn't notice that much of a feedback while writing than in the beginning.

Just need to find a good shop ^^ or ask my cousin to buy me one and bring it to me while visiting :)

Also I'm sad. My celluloid Stipula had some issues with cracking around the feed. So I sent it to my go-to shop in Rome because I know them and they can deal with the factory in Florence for me.

Well the freaking factory charged me 50 euros for the repair that is a known issue with the Etruria. So now I gotta pay that, in addition to the customs fees, shipping, etc. all told is almost $110 (97 euros). 

Wow that's crazy man, I feel you! I would've thought the cost would be much less as this is a common problem.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 04 September 2015, 14:36:05
After a couple days away, I am looking forward to getting into the 2nd (main) package...

But the entire time I was away I've been using a Noodler's Charlie (eyedropper) filled with Nikita Red. It has been divine from the get go, no setup, no tweaking needed. It just worked. I understand this to be rare amongst Noodler's pens, but it has been very nice. I did notice however that Nikita is a lil prone to feathering on less then quality paper.

What paper's do you all use, right now i have generic copier paper and a Moleskin journal. I'm looking into nice Rhodia paper as well as a Midori or Hobonichi Techo.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 04 September 2015, 14:40:44
Twsbi pens are also known to crack however you can disassemble them yourself as they are designed that way and the company will send you replacement parts in those situations.
The 580al pens have aluminum in them which should provide extra strength and prevent some cracking.

On another note, pilot pens will have some degree of feedback. They aren't quite as polished and are a bit finer than other nibs. However with some use the nib will Polish itself and have less feedback. Probably why you thought you got used to the feedback.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 04 September 2015, 20:20:31
I thought they addressed the cracking issues and moved from multi part plastic bodies to monopiece ones?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Fri, 04 September 2015, 22:45:24
After a couple days away, I am looking forward to getting into the 2nd (main) package...

But the entire time I was away I've been using a Noodler's Charlie (eyedropper) filled with Nikita Red. It has been divine from the get go, no setup, no tweaking needed. It just worked. I understand this to be rare amongst Noodler's pens, but it has been very nice. I did notice however that Nikita is a lil prone to feathering on less then quality paper.

What paper's do you all use, right now i have generic copier paper and a Moleskin journal. I'm looking into nice Rhodia paper as well as a Midori or Hobonichi Techo.

Clairefontaine, Kokuyo (two main types, the ones made in China aren't good for fps). Rhodia, Tomoe River are good as well, but pretty pricey.

Most of my wetter pens on moleskin and copier paper tends to get a lot more than a little feathering.

My TWSBI is an 580AL. From what I can see, the parts that are made of aluminium aren't the parts that usually crack, so apart from having a slightly more robust piston mechanism, the same chance of cracks in the pen is still there. Its not so much an issue with the material, rather than the design itself; the mating parts of the pen parts are too thin, even made out of durable plastic.

My AL had to have its barrel replaced once so far.

I thought they addressed the cracking issues and moved from multi part plastic bodies to monopiece ones?

Cracking issues were never actually addressed, they just sent replacement parts whenever a pen bit the dust. That said, you're not wrong about the move to a monopiece plastic for the ECO, but Iimagine its more due to cheaper costs for manufacturing. However, it should hold up better since there's less points of weaknesses in the design. But it's probably too early to tell if the ECO pen will have lasting durability compared to the other more time tested pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 05 September 2015, 06:48:38
Clairefontaine, Kokuyo (two main types, the ones made in China aren't good for fps). Rhodia, Tomoe River are good as well, but pretty pricey.

Thanks I'll check out those other brands.

Most of my wetter pens on moleskin and copier paper tends to get a lot more than a little feathering.

Afaik, the feathering seems mostly to be the copier paper, and less so on the moleskin.

My TWSBI is an 580AL. From what I can see, the parts that are made of aluminium aren't the parts that usually crack, so apart from having a slightly more robust piston mechanism, the same chance of cracks in the pen is still there. Its not so much an issue with the material, rather than the design itself; the mating parts of the pen parts are too thin, even made out of durable plastic.

Ah I understand, I must have misunderstood an explanation of the AL before. Twsbi question: What nib do you use? Afaik they tend to run a bit wider then most. The ECO is loaded up today, so I'm interested in seeing what comes of it.

My AL had to have its barrel replaced once so far.

Cracking issues were never actually addressed, they just sent replacement parts whenever a pen bit the dust. That said, you're not wrong about the move to a monopiece plastic for the ECO, but Iimagine its more due to cheaper costs for manufacturing. However, it should hold up better since there's less points of weaknesses in the design. But it's probably too early to tell if the ECO pen will have lasting durability compared to the other more time tested pens.

Time will tell, and hopefully its a change for the better.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 05 September 2015, 07:27:00

Ah I understand, I must have misunderstood an explanation of the AL before. Twsbi question: What nib do you use? Afaik they tend to run a bit wider then most. The ECO is loaded up today, so I'm interested in seeing what comes of it.


I have several nibs units I got to mess around with. The one that tends to stay on the pen nowadays is a Masuyama ground needlepoint from Franklin-Christoph (also made by JoWo); its around the same as an Japanese extra-fine, or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 11 September 2015, 14:06:38
I just received my Olive Ripple Desk pen with its Ideal #7 Red nib.
(http://i.imgur.com/cvnXFPU.jpg)
I really like what I can do with this pen. So much fun!

EDIT: I have failed to spell Waterman....
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 14:25:15
Very nice, what is it inked with?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 11 September 2015, 14:31:14
Very nice, what is it inked with?

I used some vintage Parker Quink. Forgot the date on it though.
The ink sac is non operational so I have to use this as a dip pen but it can write a solid paragraph on a single dip.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 11 September 2015, 14:55:41
Cool, your handwriting is very nice btw. I've never been able to do flourishes properly.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Delirious on Fri, 11 September 2015, 15:44:05
(http://i.imgur.com/tBswIlP.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 11 September 2015, 22:07:47
So, how is the TWSBI Eco? 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 13 September 2015, 02:54:26
So, how is the TWSBI Eco? 

Pleasant as fk.  All of the comforts of TWSBI in a neat modern design.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 13 September 2015, 03:08:48
So, how is the TWSBI Eco? 

Pleasant as fk.  All of the comforts of TWSBI in a neat modern design.

Sounds like I need to get myself one then.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 13 September 2015, 03:17:08
All this neat writing.  Mine is, and has always been, quite horrendous.

However I'm finding that the fountain pens that I bought recently work very well.  Very well indeed!

+1 would buy again, except I don't write that much these days so one ink cartridge is lasting me for months.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sun, 13 September 2015, 15:30:13
@Delirious is that how you usually write? Even if its not, good form!

@nubbinator, I really like my Eco thus far, I got a Medium and it feels kinda broad. Maybe ill opt for a fine / extra fine next time. But its lovely just the way it is.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 14 September 2015, 19:46:31
I am so glad this thread was pointed out to me in the "What did you get in the mail today?" thread!

I only very recently have gotten into journaling and fountain pens. And by very recently... I mean about a week... Here's what I've acquired so far...
(http://i.imgur.com/hmy21WE.jpg)
Pilot Metropolitan with a medium nib
Pilot Iroshizuku Take-Sumi ink
Pilot Iroshizuku Tsutsuji ink
Rhodia dotted Webnotebook
Clairefontaine stationery

In addition to that.. I'm still waiting on some packages:
Pilot Kakuno with a fine nib (I got this because it's pink and white.. and I'm a sucker for pink haha)
Diamine Asa Blue ink
Diamine Marine ink
Leuchtturm ruled pink book to match the Oberon large leather journal cover I bought
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0572/6305/products/oberon-design-leather-moleskine-cover-wild-rose-orchid.png?v=1407431178)

It's safe to say I am now poor haha. But excited to start having some penpals and exchanging letters to work on my penmanship :D I haven't handwritten anything in what feels like years.. My handwriting used to be really neat, but now it's far from it. So between journaling and exchanging letters, hope to improve it :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 14 September 2015, 19:51:29
next pen, get a twsbi. awesome pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 14 September 2015, 19:51:49
next pen, get a twsbi. awesome pen.

stop
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 14 September 2015, 19:52:09
next pen, get a twsbi. awesome pen.

stop

not until u buy it you canadian ****
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Mon, 14 September 2015, 20:56:07
It's safe to say I am now poor haha. But excited to start having some penpals and exchanging letters to work on my penmanship :D I haven't handwritten anything in what feels like years.. My handwriting used to be really neat, but now it's far from it. So between journaling and exchanging letters, hope to improve it :)

I'd be up for a penpal. I've been struggling to get more use out of my fountain pens lately. I can't even use them at work because we aren't allowed to bring any pens inside the cleanroom except for a Bic Clic Stic (yuk!).  :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 07:51:22
I'd be down, I am very rusty myself. So much time on keyboards. My cursive is almost not existent, but my print seems to have improved somehow.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 23 September 2015, 15:12:32
I just bought an old style OMAS 360 demonstrator. So beautiful.

The downside is that I want some nib work done by Mike Masuyama who has a 14 week waiting period.
This pen will probably end up being my note taking pen for classes since I can easily see the ink level and it's apparently super snug in the hand.

EDIT: Image link doesn't work anymore. I'll get images up once I get the pen. You know, after 14 weeks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 23 September 2015, 15:55:26
I just bought an old style OMAS 360 demonstrator. So beautiful.

An image from the seller:
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The downside is that I want some nib work done by Mike Masuyama who has a 14 week waiting period.
This pen will probably end up being my note taking pen for classes since I can easily see the ink level and it's apparently super snug in the hand.

:thumb: that's a smart lookin pen
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 24 September 2015, 08:50:38
@FrostyToast that looks great, demonstrators are the way to go. I love eye dropper demo pens myself.

Why is the wait so long for that guy? Nib work is a totally new concept for me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 24 September 2015, 11:47:45
@FrostyToast that looks great, demonstrators are the way to go. I love eye dropper demo pens myself.

Why is the wait so long for that guy? Nib work is a totally new concept for me.

Mike and pretty much every well-known nibmeister out there have a long queue of pens waiting for them. The best way to have your nib tuned in a timely manner is to go to a pen show.

Nib adjustment/customization is fairly popular. You can go from simple things like tine alignment to highly specialized tasks like retipping a nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 25 September 2015, 07:40:50
Ah thanks for the explanation. That whole scene is very intimidating to me.

I am keen on trying a Music nib (specifically the Noodler's Neponset) and before the Neponset the Music nibs all seemed to be custom.

I am bummed out I missed the Commonwealth Pen Show too, maybe next year.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 25 September 2015, 07:54:06
My collection now.. don't judge me..
(http://i.imgur.com/F7RXSU8.jpg)
Whoever originally pointed out to me that you could buy samples of inks instead of just full bottles... thanks a lot :'( Half of the inks I have are all different kinds of pink.

And now all my birthday money is officially gone.. but so worth it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 25 September 2015, 07:55:55
It's safe to say I am now poor haha.
you are not poor if you still have your kidneys. sell one, buy a Montegrappa!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 25 September 2015, 08:03:55
Damn, Syribo, you go HARD.

What are the two diamine bottles? And what is in the Noodlers bottle?

Are you subscribed to ink drop from goulet? Cause thats a lot of samples.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 25 September 2015, 08:10:36
Damn, Syribo, you go HARD.

What are the two diamine bottles? And what is in the Noodlers bottle?

Are you subscribed to ink drop from goulet? Cause thats a lot of samples.
What I usually do with birthday or holiday money, is that I save it until I find a new hobby or thing that interests me and then end up going with it :D It usually works out haha and makes me happy.

The Diamine bottles are Asa Blue and Marine. Noodler's is just Bulletproof black for addressing envelopes and stuff :)

I'm not subscribed to the ink drop.. but I should do that. I just bought a ton of different ones to try. I've been on the hunt for my favorite pink, so a ton of the samples I have are pink haha. I think so far the Montblanc Pink is my favorite one.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 25 September 2015, 08:15:09
I feel you, I did the same thing myself from a belated gift.

Diamine just seemed so plain before, but since I got Sherwood Green I've been more open to them. Would you recommend either blue? I'm pretty scared of BSB killing all my demo pens.

Ink Drop seems like a nice way to find new and unexpected things, I've contemplated it as a way to step out of my comfort zone.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 25 September 2015, 09:08:53
I feel you, I did the same thing myself from a belated gift.

Diamine just seemed so plain before, but since I got Sherwood Green I've been more open to them. Would you recommend either blue? I'm pretty scared of BSB killing all my demo pens.

Ink Drop seems like a nice way to find new and unexpected things, I've contemplated it as a way to step out of my comfort zone.

Keep super permanent inks in things eye-dropper converted Platinum Preppies.  BSB should be alright in most pens, but after seeing what happened when I let iron gall sit in a Ahab too long it's easy for me to keep the tough stuff out of my expensive pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 25 September 2015, 09:26:35
I have it in the free Pen i got from Noodler's, tho I may get a blue bodied acrylic or ebonite pen to keep it in as well. (Maybe the Neponset, I was talking about or something that is less of an investment) BSB has been dry and fairly tricky for me, so I'm trying to play with different dilutions.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 25 September 2015, 14:22:07
It's safe to say I am now poor haha.
you are not poor if you still have your kidneys. sell one, buy a Montegrappa!
Alternatively you could get an entry level Montblanc.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 25 September 2015, 19:47:16
Hehe

Just came back from a Pelikan hub meet with a lot of ink!

They sent a lot considering not many showed up but it happens.

Ended up with a bottle of Mandarin, Jade and Topaz in the edelstein line and 5 cases of Amethyst cartridges...

As well as a notebook and several pen cases

Fun testing out different fountain pens and inks.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 25 September 2015, 19:51:43
My collection now.. don't judge me..
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/F7RXSU8.jpg)

Whoever originally pointed out to me that you could buy samples of inks instead of just full bottles... thanks a lot :'( Half of the inks I have are all different kinds of pink.

And now all my birthday money is officially gone.. but so worth it.

piiiiiiink!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 25 September 2015, 20:04:13
I am so glad this thread was pointed out to me in the "What did you get in the mail today?" thread!

I only very recently have gotten into journaling and fountain pens. And by very recently... I mean about a week... Here's what I've acquired so far...
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(http://i.imgur.com/hmy21WE.jpg)

Pilot Metropolitan with a medium nib
Pilot Iroshizuku Take-Sumi ink
Pilot Iroshizuku Tsutsuji ink
Rhodia dotted Webnotebook
Clairefontaine stationery

In addition to that.. I'm still waiting on some packages:
Pilot Kakuno with a fine nib (I got this because it's pink and white.. and I'm a sucker for pink haha)
Diamine Asa Blue ink
Diamine Marine ink
Leuchtturm ruled pink book to match the Oberon large leather journal cover I bought
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(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0572/6305/products/oberon-design-leather-moleskine-cover-wild-rose-orchid.png?v=1407431178)


It's safe to say I am now poor haha. But excited to start having some penpals and exchanging letters to work on my penmanship :D I haven't handwritten anything in what feels like years.. My handwriting used to be really neat, but now it's far from it. So between journaling and exchanging letters, hope to improve it :)

Penpals are so fun.

I have a few. It sucks because I haven't had the time to write all my letters...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 26 September 2015, 08:10:18
Hehe

Just came back from a Pelikan hub meet with a lot of ink!

They sent a lot considering not many showed up but it happens.

Ended up with a bottle of Mandarin, Jade and Topaz in the edelstein line and 5 cases of Amethyst cartridges...

As well as a notebook and several pen cases

Fun testing out different fountain pens and inks.

That is quite the haul. what is a hub meet?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 26 September 2015, 08:54:32
I need to write out a whole bunch of letters still, and then I totally would love to see who else wants to write letters too :D I bought enough ink that I could write out 500,000 letters and still have some left over probably haha. I also got some pink waterproof ink for addressing them, of course.

So it's been SO long since I've had a penpal or written letters... what do you write about!? Just anything? For the ones I met on here, at least we have a bunch of interests in common to write about haha. But aside from that, just normal stuff? Random thoughts? Things about yourself? I haven't written a letter since I was in school.

Then again, it's probably not much different than writing messages and emails to people.. just handwritten!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 26 September 2015, 10:11:00
I need to write out a whole bunch of letters still, and then I totally would love to see who else wants to write letters too :D I bought enough ink that I could write out 500,000 letters and still have some left over probably haha. I also got some pink waterproof ink for addressing them, of course.

So it's been SO long since I've had a penpal or written letters... what do you write about!? Just anything? For the ones I met on here, at least we have a bunch of interests in common to write about haha. But aside from that, just normal stuff? Random thoughts? Things about yourself? I haven't written a letter since I was in school.

Then again, it's probably not much different than writing messages and emails to people.. just handwritten!

If you have a foreign penpal, you can start by figuring out cultural differences, those little differences that only a person living there can tell you.

I have to write a letter to mine, as a matter of fact. I'm procrastinating this answer for more time than I'd like. :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 26 September 2015, 10:32:46
I need to write out a whole bunch of letters still, and then I totally would love to see who else wants to write letters too :D I bought enough ink that I could write out 500,000 letters and still have some left over probably haha. I also got some pink waterproof ink for addressing them, of course.

So it's been SO long since I've had a penpal or written letters... what do you write about!? Just anything? For the ones I met on here, at least we have a bunch of interests in common to write about haha. But aside from that, just normal stuff? Random thoughts? Things about yourself? I haven't written a letter since I was in school.

Then again, it's probably not much different than writing messages and emails to people.. just handwritten!

If you have a foreign penpal, you can start by figuring out cultural differences, those little differences that only a person living there can tell you.

I have to write a letter to mine, as a matter of fact. I'm procrastinating this answer for more time than I'd like. :(

All of mine live here in the USA too haha.. but I actually would love a foreign penpal too ohhh. That would be pretty fun.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 26 September 2015, 10:56:42
I need to write out a whole bunch of letters still, and then I totally would love to see who else wants to write letters too :D I bought enough ink that I could write out 500,000 letters and still have some left over probably haha. I also got some pink waterproof ink for addressing them, of course.

So it's been SO long since I've had a penpal or written letters... what do you write about!? Just anything? For the ones I met on here, at least we have a bunch of interests in common to write about haha. But aside from that, just normal stuff? Random thoughts? Things about yourself? I haven't written a letter since I was in school.

Then again, it's probably not much different than writing messages and emails to people.. just handwritten!

If you have a foreign penpal, you can start by figuring out cultural differences, those little differences that only a person living there can tell you.

I have to write a letter to mine, as a matter of fact. I'm procrastinating this answer for more time than I'd like. :(

All of mine live here in the USA too haha.. but I actually would love a foreign penpal too ohhh. That would be pretty fun.

Pm me! I'll be your first foreign penpal =P

From the great land of Canadia
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 26 September 2015, 10:59:19
Hehe

Just came back from a Pelikan hub meet with a lot of ink!

They sent a lot considering not many showed up but it happens.

Ended up with a bottle of Mandarin, Jade and Topaz in the edelstein line and 5 cases of Amethyst cartridges...

As well as a notebook and several pen cases

Fun testing out different fountain pens and inks.

That is quite the haul. what is a hub meet?

It's a meetup sponsored by Pelikan

You sign up on their site and one person volunteers to be a hub host. The hub host is sent a bunch of freebies to give out. The host then organizes a meetup between all of those who signed up.

Most major cities should have one already registered.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sat, 26 September 2015, 11:28:35
It's safe to say I am now poor haha.
you are not poor if you still have your kidneys. sell one, buy a Montegrappa!
Alternatively you could get an entry level Montblanc.
hue hue
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 26 September 2015, 11:44:09
@Syribo and GL1TCHED I'm pretty open to writing people and getting letters. It's been eons since I've gotten to correspond with someone via snail mail.

@GL1TCHED regarding the hub meet, thats a really cool sort of event. I've yet to really venture into higher end stuff but my OG pen from a while ago was a beat up old Pelikan, no idea what make or model, but I do know I accidentally killed it years ago using the wrong type of ink. (India Ink)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:30:13
Picked up a Pelikan M200 in Cafe Creme with a fine nib.

(http://i.imgur.com/teCIT1A.jpg)

I wanted one really bad some time ago, but decided against it. Upon seeing it on Massdrop, and then being pointed to a cheaper source, I splurged and picked one up. It's every bit as sexy as I imagined. Perhaps a duller cream color would help it photograph better and not be quite as flashy, which would suit my tastes better. Nevertheless, it matches my board well in person and it looks fantastic. Now I just need a pair of the Sennheiser's in a similar color scheme and pick up a dark wood wrist rest. At the moment, I have not inked up my M200 just yet, so I cannot remark on the writing quality.

(http://i.imgur.com/HCqUhA5.jpg)

I have some Bungbox inks at my house that I'd like to try, unfortunately, I'm down at college right now. Noodler's Aircorp blue/black and Forest Green are my only two options at the moment.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 September 2015, 12:35:11
I am keen on trying a Music nib (specifically the Noodler's Neponset) and before the Neponset the Music nibs all seemed to be custom.

Not necessarily. There are vintage music nibs. I've got a Warranted (generic nib) gold flexible Music nib. It's insanity and I love it.

Yay everyone getting into pens....and Pelikans :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Mon, 28 September 2015, 13:06:20
@THSdrummer dang, that looks lovely

@CPTBadAss ahh ok, ill just keep my eyes open then.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 28 September 2015, 13:15:41
<3 fat nibs
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 28 September 2015, 14:09:00
I can't stop buying ink samples and pens and ink GOD HELP ME... I have so many damn ink samples now. And like five pens. I'm a horrible person.

I rationalized my need of new pens by saying.. Well, I needed one cheap one to keep in waterproof ink in so I don't mess up any of them.. and I needed one to keep black in in... And I needed a medium nib, a fine nib, a flex nib...

So of course now I'm like "I really want a 1.1mm italic nib.....". But I really can't spend anymore money, I finally hit the limit of what I would allow myself to spend lol. I do want more stationery though... Ugh that Verge de France G. Lalo pink stationery set I WANT IT SOOOO BAD. But damn, $27 on Amazon. But it's seriously at the top of my want list right now.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Aengus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 14:31:19
I am new to GH and recently came across this thread.  I have always wanted to get a fountain pen, but I always decided it would be a stupid purchase because I am left handed and imagined that I would smear the ink with my hand as I wrote with the pen. Am I wrong in making this assumption? Please tell me I am wrong.  If I am given the OK by you guys that I won't get ink everywhere, what do you recommend as a good first fountain pen?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 September 2015, 15:13:59
I can't stop buying ink samples and pens and ink GOD HELP ME... I have so many damn ink samples now. And like five pens. I'm a horrible person.

I rationalized my need of new pens by saying.. Well, I needed one cheap one to keep in waterproof ink in so I don't mess up any of them.. and I needed one to keep black in in... And I needed a medium nib, a fine nib, a flex nib...

So of course now I'm like "I really want a 1.1mm italic nib.....". But I really can't spend anymore money, I finally hit the limit of what I would allow myself to spend lol. I do want more stationery though... Ugh that Verge de France G. Lalo pink stationery set I WANT IT SOOOO BAD. But damn, $27 on Amazon. But it's seriously at the top of my want list right now.

You fit in very well around here :)

A little gentle obsessiveness is good - let's you focus on something distracting to forget about the real world for a while.

My first fountain pen is still going - I got a Pilot disposable (a pair of them, actually) to see how it went.  It went very well indeed, but my first one still hasn't run out of ink.

Then I have the second one.  And two more refillable ones I got from Massdrop.

This is fun :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 28 September 2015, 15:16:59
I am new to GH and recently came across this thread.  I have always wanted to get a fountain pen, but I always decided it would be a stupid purchase because I am left handed and imagined that I would smear the ink with my hand as I wrote with the pen. Am I wrong in making this assumption? Please tell me I am wrong.  If I am given the OK by you guys that I won't get ink everywhere, what do you recommend as a good first fountain pen?

That depends on many factors: the way you write/hold the pen, the nib size, the ink.

All that said, I know many left-handed fountain pen users. Usually they use nibs on the finer range and/or inks that dries quickly.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 28 September 2015, 15:28:52
I am new to GH and recently came across this thread.  I have always wanted to get a fountain pen, but I always decided it would be a stupid purchase because I am left handed and imagined that I would smear the ink with my hand as I wrote with the pen. Am I wrong in making this assumption? Please tell me I am wrong.  If I am given the OK by you guys that I won't get ink everywhere, what do you recommend as a good first fountain pen?

That depends on many factors: the way you write/hold the pen, the nib size, the ink.

All that said, I know many left-handed fountain pen users. Usually they use nibs on the finer range and/or inks that dries quickly.

You also forgot to add the choice of paper.
The problem with paper choice for lefties is that most fountain pen friendly papers are very ink resistant and are designed that way to prevent bleeding and feathering. However, this resistance will mean that dry times are much longer.
I have used paper where the ink dried in 0 seconds completely. However that had the absolute worst bleeding and worst feathering. That paper didn't even work with an extra fine. Admittedly I was using a wet visconti.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 28 September 2015, 15:59:19
I can't stop buying ink samples and pens and ink GOD HELP ME... I have so many damn ink samples now. And like five pens. I'm a horrible person.

I rationalized my need of new pens by saying.. Well, I needed one cheap one to keep in waterproof ink in so I don't mess up any of them.. and I needed one to keep black in in... And I needed a medium nib, a fine nib, a flex nib...

So of course now I'm like "I really want a 1.1mm italic nib.....". But I really can't spend anymore money, I finally hit the limit of what I would allow myself to spend lol. I do want more stationery though... Ugh that Verge de France G. Lalo pink stationery set I WANT IT SOOOO BAD. But damn, $27 on Amazon. But it's seriously at the top of my want list right now.

You fit in very well around here :)

A little gentle obsessiveness is good - let's you focus on something distracting to forget about the real world for a while.

My first fountain pen is still going - I got a Pilot disposable (a pair of them, actually) to see how it went.  It went very well indeed, but my first one still hasn't run out of ink.

Then I have the second one.  And two more refillable ones I got from Massdrop.

This is fun :D

It definitely does help me focus on something other than real world stresses :) And I love laying in bed at night and writing in my journal, testing out all my different pens and inks. I love my pens ahhhhh.

I love my Rhodia webnotebook the best so far. My two Leuchtturms have the worst bleedthrough... wow. Like, really really bad. I really want to try some Tomoe River paper. I have yet to try my Clairefontaine stationery, this week I will finally. And I need that damn G. Lalo stationery...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 September 2015, 16:16:33
I can't stop buying ink samples and pens and ink GOD HELP ME... I have so many damn ink samples now. And like five pens. I'm a horrible person.

I rationalized my need of new pens by saying.. Well, I needed one cheap one to keep in waterproof ink in so I don't mess up any of them.. and I needed one to keep black in in... And I needed a medium nib, a fine nib, a flex nib...

So of course now I'm like "I really want a 1.1mm italic nib.....". But I really can't spend anymore money, I finally hit the limit of what I would allow myself to spend lol. I do want more stationery though... Ugh that Verge de France G. Lalo pink stationery set I WANT IT SOOOO BAD. But damn, $27 on Amazon. But it's seriously at the top of my want list right now.

You fit in very well around here :)

A little gentle obsessiveness is good - let's you focus on something distracting to forget about the real world for a while.

My first fountain pen is still going - I got a Pilot disposable (a pair of them, actually) to see how it went.  It went very well indeed, but my first one still hasn't run out of ink.

Then I have the second one.  And two more refillable ones I got from Massdrop.

This is fun :D

It definitely does help me focus on something other than real world stresses :) And I love laying in bed at night and writing in my journal, testing out all my different pens and inks. I love my pens ahhhhh.

I love my Rhodia webnotebook the best so far. My two Leuchtturms have the worst bleedthrough... wow. Like, really really bad. I really want to try some Tomoe River paper. I have yet to try my Clairefontaine stationery, this week I will finally. And I need that damn G. Lalo stationery...

I like the use of the word "need" rather than the word "want" :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 28 September 2015, 20:00:53
Since we're talking about paper I would strongly suggest SN^2 paper.  It's friendly for calligraphy or fountain pens and it is amazing paper.  It's not very expensive to boot for what you get.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Mon, 28 September 2015, 22:37:24
I am new to GH and recently came across this thread.  I have always wanted to get a fountain pen, but I always decided it would be a stupid purchase because I am left handed and imagined that I would smear the ink with my hand as I wrote with the pen. Am I wrong in making this assumption? Please tell me I am wrong.  If I am given the OK by you guys that I won't get ink everywhere, what do you recommend as a good first fountain pen?

a basic overview for left-handed fountain pen use. as mentioned by others, it depends on a variety of factors. However, if you write under the line (which is probably not the case since you brought up smearing), you'd have free reins on the choice of ink, paper and most nibs (stubs and italics are slightly more complicated).

If not, you'd have to tweak the other factors to use fountain pens; very fine nibs, dry feeds, fast drying inks. Exaggerating the 'hook' if you're an overwriter. Rotating the paper. Lefties who hold their pens at a high angle is going to find fine nibs scratchy without adjustment because of the push strokes. Not much point using absorbent papers to achieve this end imo (though it is one way to prevent smearing), as the results look like crap.

One of the pens (or rather, nibs) that really worked for me before I switched to writing under the line was a needlepoint from franklin-christoph. Same nib as the TWSBIs, but the feed was noticeably drier. Most inks dried under 4s, some even lesser. However, its not cheap for a first step into fountain pens.

You can probably look into the Pilot Metro with a fine nib to start with and see how you do with it, and if you need something finer, get a Pilot Penmanship (comes with an EF nib that isn't available for the metro) for a nib swap.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Aengus on Tue, 29 September 2015, 08:44:23
Great! Thanks for the info everyone.  I will check out the pens that Larkin mentioned.

However, if you write under the line

This means that my entire hand is under the line that I am currently writing on, yea?

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 29 September 2015, 10:31:08
http://www.nibs.com/Left-hand%20writers.htm

see #1 and #5.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 29 September 2015, 10:48:57
So everyone, I have a question: Since we are all mildly obsessed with input devices and writing instruments, Which one do you find is more 'natural' to you?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 September 2015, 11:06:35
My system at work:

- Scribble everything and anything down into a notebook with my Pilot VP. It's essentially a brain dump.

- Go back to my desk and sort through my notes and priorities. When I figure out what I actually need, I transfer it into OneNote.

As great as paper and pen are, I can't CTRL-F it yet. Paper and pen to me feel more like an extension of my hands and thoughts. The keyboards are great but they feel more like a tool or a machine to me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 29 September 2015, 11:33:35
My system at work:

- Scribble everything and anything down into a notebook with my Pilot VP. It's essentially a brain dump.

- Go back to my desk and sort through my notes and priorities. When I figure out what I actually need, I transfer it into OneNote.

As great as paper and pen are, I can't CTRL-F it yet. Paper and pen to me feel more like an extension of my hands and thoughts. The keyboards are great but they feel more like a tool or a machine to me.

That's pretty much what I do as well. What do you use for your EDC notebook, and what do you do for work? (If you don't mind me asking.)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 29 September 2015, 11:36:48
I'm currently really into Field Notes but I'm also exploring other notebooks of that size. Recently, jdcarpe made me some notebooks so I'll be working those into the rotation next. The Field Notes are tough and fit into my back pocket easily so I like that. Plus they have lots of variations so they're fun.

I work in a factory in the aerospace industry.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 29 September 2015, 11:40:35
Anyway, I have 5 cases of international standard cartridges of Pelikan Edelstein Amethyst ink to give out for free.

I'm a bit in the red (and working to pay that off with work) after buying the Sony Camera so the only thing I ask is that you pay shipping.

1 case max per person / user / address

First come first serve.

Note: Case is 6 cartridges
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 29 September 2015, 11:45:20
I'm currently really into Field Notes but I'm also exploring other notebooks of that size. Recently, jdcarpe made me some notebooks so I'll be working those into the rotation next. The Field Notes are tough and fit into my back pocket easily so I like that. Plus they have lots of variations so they're fun.

I work in a factory in the aerospace industry.

Nice, I was using Field Notes, but I got a free leather journal and they are just barely too big. So I'm gonna be ordering the Scout Books, as they seem to fit the right dimensions.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 29 September 2015, 13:05:00
So everyone, I have a question: Since we are all mildly obsessed with input devices and writing instruments, Which one do you find is more 'natural' to you?

Well I understand letters, symbols, and writing.  The pen is more cerebral.  The keyboard is more of a tool to assist me in making it easier to copy more of my thoughts faster, but it can not replace the engagement that occurs by scrawling out each and every character.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Tue, 29 September 2015, 13:16:02
So everyone, I have a question: Since we are all mildly obsessed with input devices and writing instruments, Which one do you find is more 'natural' to you?

I think writing feels more natural and is fun! It helps me get my creative juices flowing. It's easier to play with a pen and paper than on a computer. I also like to draw and doodle a lot and probably do that more than writing. I generally write down ideas and sketches for work and then refine them on the computer. When I sit down specifically to write a lot, it's usually to practice my fountain pen skills.

I've noticed I 'cmd+z' and want to 'backspace' a lot when I'm writing though which is a newish thing for me. I also try to "cmd+f" in my head to search for stuff at the grocery store too though.


On another note- I'd be down to do penpals if anyone wants! :D It'll give me more motivation to practice my writing!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: inanis on Tue, 29 September 2015, 15:27:14
Finally got a pen holder for my lovelies.

Left one is a Montblanc Starwalker rollerball, right one is a Visconti Salvador Dali fountain pen. Middle one is just cause it is fun it is made out of a recycled circuit board.

(http://i.imgur.com/G3NF9LM.jpg)

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Tue, 29 September 2015, 16:03:24
Finally got a pen holder for my lovelies.

Left one is a Montblanc Starwalker rollerball, right one is a Visconti Salvador Dali fountain pen. Middle one is just cause it is fun it is made out of a recycled circuit board.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HDksKrSl.jpg)

Gah I want a Visconti so bad.... Actually, there's two pens on my pen wishlist right now.

(http://i.imgur.com/WmkQn5X.jpg)
This Pelikan.. *drool*

(http://i.imgur.com/BogAew0.jpg)
And this Visconti UGHHH...

The Pelikan is like $500... The Visconti is like $300. :'( Woe is me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 29 September 2015, 19:24:35
So everyone, I have a question: Since we are all mildly obsessed with input devices and writing instruments, Which one do you find is more 'natural' to you?

I really love typing. So spending time at my keyboard is fantastic, plus as a drafter, I have to spend many hours there navigating with random short cuts. But after all that, I really enjoy looking over a printed drawing with my fountain pen and marking it up, which takes me back to the keyboard.

That said, I do some hand writing for fun such as to pen pals and journals on hikes/vacations.

I'd say I'm equal at both. I don't have terrible hand writing, but it does take me a while to get my information down on a page in nice cursive writing. But on the keyboard, I'm not very good at long, sustained typing. I'm pretty good at short bursts (thanks to Runescape as a kid, I think). Probably better at typing than I am at hand writing overall.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 29 September 2015, 19:53:51
Finally got a pen holder for my lovelies.

Left one is a Montblanc Starwalker rollerball, right one is a Visconti Salvador Dali fountain pen. Middle one is just cause it is fun it is made out of a recycled circuit board.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HDksKrSl.jpg)

Gah I want a Visconti so bad.... Actually, there's two pens on my pen wishlist right now.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WmkQn5X.jpg)

This Pelikan.. *drool*

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BogAew0.jpg)

And this Visconti UGHHH...

The Pelikan is like $500... The Visconti is like $300. :'( Woe is me.

I would hang around the classifieds of forums.
Prices of used contemporary pens usually get slashed in half if they are used and still available for purchase.
I got a visconti opera typhoon for $300 that way which is insane.
Just be quick about it because both the pens you posted are on my wish list as well and I have a very small wish list.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: inanis on Tue, 29 September 2015, 20:01:04
Gah I want a Visconti so bad.... Actually, there's two pens on my pen wishlist right now.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WmkQn5X.jpg)

This Pelikan.. *drool*

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BogAew0.jpg)

And this Visconti UGHHH...

The Pelikan is like $500... The Visconti is like $300. :'( Woe is me.

I would hang around the classifieds of forums.
Prices of used contemporary pens usually get slashed in half if they are used and still available for purchase.
I got a visconti opera typhoon for $300 that way which is insane.
Just be quick about it because both the pens you posted are on my wish list as well and I have a very small wish list.

That Pelikan is amazing. I wish I could afford to just go buy it! Both of the nice pens I got were gifts, I don't think I could have mentally handled justifying that cost to myself. Maybe Frosty is right and we can all find a deal one day soon. Or one of us anyway.... :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Tue, 29 September 2015, 20:39:11
So I messed up my thumb pretty bad the other day playing Egyptian Rat Screw.  It has been over a week and it still hurts.  I think I must have fractured it or bruised the deep tissue of the joint.  At least the swelling has gone down.

Anywho - has anybody seen any tips for writing while temporarily mangled?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 29 September 2015, 20:54:11
So I messed up my thumb pretty bad the other day playing Egyptian Rat Screw.  It has been over a week and it still hurts.  I think I must have fractured it or bruised the deep tissue of the joint.  At least the swelling has gone down.

Anywho - has anybody seen any tips for writing while temporarily mangled?

Practise being ambidextrous.
Not really joking either. If you can write properly with either hand you might as well train where it counts.
Although you could also use the opportunity to practise arm movements with your dominant side. Many people get into the habit of writing without moving their hand which impairs the ability to write cursive comfortably.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 30 September 2015, 00:30:10
Was doing a cleaning of my Twsbi mini and it appears the thread on the feed that threads into the body of the pen has broken. Now the I can't screw the nib back onto the pen.  :'(


Sad days...  :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 30 September 2015, 00:33:07
Was doing a cleaning of my Twsbi mini and it appears the thread on the feed that threads into the body of the pen has broken. Now the I can't screw the nib back onto the pen.  :'(


Sad days...  :(

I believe they will send you a replacement part for free but that is still unfortunate.
Reasons why I will never purchase a twsbi.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 30 September 2015, 00:36:37
Was doing a cleaning of my Twsbi mini and it appears the thread on the feed that threads into the body of the pen has broken. Now the I can't screw the nib back onto the pen.  :'(


Sad days...  :(

I believe they will send you a replacement part for free but that is still unfortunate.
Reasons why I will never purchase a twsbi.
It twas a gift from demik, I don't think they will send me any parts for free when I don't have an warranty?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 30 September 2015, 05:17:47
- Scribble everything and anything down into a notebook with my Pilot VP. It's essentially a brain dump.
Doing a brain dump with a VP? Someone is being posh now!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: wupi on Wed, 30 September 2015, 11:22:00
Show Image
Show Image
Finally got a pen holder for my lovelies.

Left one is a Montblanc Starwalker rollerball, right one is a Visconti Salvador Dali fountain pen. Middle one is just cause it is fun it is made out of a recycled circuit board.

(http://i.imgur.com/HDksKrSl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/HDksKrSl.jpg)

Gah I want a Visconti so bad.... Actually, there's two pens on my pen wishlist right now.

(http://i.imgur.com/WmkQn5X.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/WmkQn5X.jpg)
This Pelikan.. *drool*

(http://i.imgur.com/BogAew0.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/BogAew0.jpg)
And this Visconti UGHHH...

The Pelikan is like $500... The Visconti is like $300. :'( Woe is me.
Just 370€ in Germany, thats about $413.  :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 September 2015, 11:23:21
It twas a gift from demik, I don't think they will send me any parts for free when I don't have an warranty?

Just contact them. They're really good with customer service. One of the reasons why I like TWSBI.

I believe they will send you a replacement part for free but that is still unfortunate.
Reasons why I will never purchase a twsbi.

I think for the price and the service, it's worth taking the risk. I don't know if paying 6x for a Visconti gives me 6x the improvement over a TWSBI. Not saying I don't like Visconti (I really want a Homo Sapien) but I think TWSBI does a great mid-tier pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 30 September 2015, 15:01:16
Okay so some insanely nice person surprised me today... no idea who it was, I didn't see anything else in the package, but someone sent me the pink G. Lalo stationery set I've been pining over for the last month since getting into pens in the first place.. I almost dropped it to the floor in surprise because I had NO idea what was in the package that came!! So whoever it was, THANK YOUUUU GAH! I want to write you a thank you letter on it :) I am about to break it open and start writing out all the letters to people I need to send.

Thank you thank you thank you :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 30 September 2015, 20:01:48
I have just started a skype chat for anyone interested in writing/fountain pens.
If you want to join just throw me a message with your skype info so that I can add you.
Don't be afraid to join, I'll invite anyone who shares the passion of writing!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 02 October 2015, 02:27:11
So I'm curious, what is every ones favourite/most used ink?


I'm going to pick up some Pilot Iroshizuku Tsuki-yo, and maybe some some other noodlers inks because they won't cripple my wallet with one bottle.  :))


But I'm going to hold off on those purchases until I get a new pen, I'm aiming to get a pilot metal falcon once I have the extra cash, it's quite expensive, but I just love the look and a flex nib interests me. I'll play around with other nibs if the stock one doesn't please me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 06:20:34
Diamine is the right mix of price point, color choice, performance, and safety for me. Iroshizuku is a bit too much for my tastes.

And you can try a flex nib pen for way less than what a Falcon costs. Noodlers flex pens are a good starting point and I think flex more than a Falcon.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 07:17:15
So I'm curious, what is every ones favourite/most used ink?

I am a Noodler's fan to the hilt, for black I like Borealis Black, for red i have Nikita, for blue i have been playing with Baystate Blue in various dilutions, but I have yet to find a green that i really like, so for now im using Diamine Sherwood Green.

I think Noodler's is the best value per ml by far, and the variety of colors, shades and properties are very attractive, but I agree with CPTBadAss that Diamine is very nice as well.

Plus if you invest a bit more and go for the big bottles, you get a free pen, all of which I have enjoyed immensely.

If you want to try a flex pen, give the Noodler's Nib Creaper (http://www.gouletpens.com/n17000/p/N17000) a gander, it might be the right price point to play around with.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 02 October 2015, 09:15:04
So I'm curious, what is every ones favourite/most used ink?
Diamine Burnt Sienna.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 09:15:45
So I'm curious, what is every ones favourite/most used ink?
Diamine Burnt Sienna.

What pen do you have that in?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 02 October 2015, 09:40:37
So I'm curious, what is every ones favourite/most used ink?
Diamine Burnt Sienna.

+100 this is a fantastic ink.

I also like quite a few of the turquoise inks.  The favorite that comes to my mind most often is Levenger True Turquoise.  I have other favorite utility inks, but they rarely get into my more expensive pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 02 October 2015, 09:47:46
So I'm curious, what is every ones favourite/most used ink?
Diamine Burnt Sienna.

What pen do you have that in?
Lamy Safari currently.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 13:15:57
Do either of you have a decent looking sample, most of what I'm seeing is a orangish brown smear, does it shade well or something?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 02 October 2015, 14:04:33
I know there are other cheaper noodler flex pens, I just wanted to delve into something a bit higher end.

I doubt I'll only buy one fountain in the end...v :-X

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 02 October 2015, 14:08:40
My favorite right now is J. Herbin Rose Tendresse... it's a really really nice pink-purple, I love it. It looks better in my Noodler's Ahab Flex more than any other pen. So much shading.

I'm trying to find a nice color to complement the pink rose G. Lalo that someone sent me :) Still don't know who you were.. but thank you AGAIN. I think a nice gold color would look good, but the J Herbin Ambre de Birmanie I just tried was waaay too light. Probably should have tried it in the Ahab, it seems to make things darker.

May try my Diamine Autumn Oak on it, that color is soooo nice, especially with autumn finally being here. It looks amazing in a flex pen with a TON of shading!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 October 2015, 14:16:54
Syribo, I just picked up the Mont Blanc Pink Ink. I'm stoked to see how it turns out. I also love Diamine Claret and Iroshizuku Kosumosu.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 02 October 2015, 14:24:40
I'm really looking forward to trying the iroshizuku yu-take (Sunset) colour. That colour is just so vibrant with it's shading.  :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 02 October 2015, 14:26:09
My favorite right now is J. Herbin Rose Tendresse... it's a really really nice pink-purple, I love it. It looks better in my Noodler's Ahab Flex more than any other pen. So much shading.

I'm trying to find a nice color to complement the pink rose G. Lalo that someone sent me :) Still don't know who you were.. but thank you AGAIN. I think a nice gold color would look good, but the J Herbin Ambre de Birmanie I just tried was waaay too light. Probably should have tried it in the Ahab, it seems to make things darker.

May try my Diamine Autumn Oak on it, that color is soooo nice, especially with autumn finally being here. It looks amazing in a flex pen with a TON of shading!

Mind providing a sample of the Rose Tendresse?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 02 October 2015, 14:54:27
My favorite right now is J. Herbin Rose Tendresse... it's a really really nice pink-purple, I love it. It looks better in my Noodler's Ahab Flex more than any other pen. So much shading.

I'm trying to find a nice color to complement the pink rose G. Lalo that someone sent me :) Still don't know who you were.. but thank you AGAIN. I think a nice gold color would look good, but the J Herbin Ambre de Birmanie I just tried was waaay too light. Probably should have tried it in the Ahab, it seems to make things darker.

May try my Diamine Autumn Oak on it, that color is soooo nice, especially with autumn finally being here. It looks amazing in a flex pen with a TON of shading!

Mind providing a sample of the Rose Tendresse?
I will write out some lines and then try to scan it :) If I try to take a picture with my ****ty iPad camera, it won't do it justice haha. It's a gorgeous purpley pink, I looooove it. But definitely love it best with the flex nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 02 October 2015, 18:48:46
Welp.............. Aside from mechanical keyboards and fountain pens, and my love for coffee and pink stuff.. There's one more thing I love above all else..

...Sailor Moon. Don't judge me. The original subbed uncut Sailormoon was AMAZING. And it's been such a huge impact and part of my life since the days of watching it in 4th grade before school, dubbed.. until I got into the uncut stuff when I was in 7th grade, and to this day I still love it. I've cosplayed Sailor Jupiter, I have 7 Sailormoon posters on my wall, keychains, plushies, etc.

..Welp, just came across this on Etsy:
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/054/0/8065563/il_570xN.766850979_jqbj.jpg)
https://www.etsy.com/listing/223399889/preorder-sailor-moon-gabis-disguise?ref=shop_home_active_2

Oh. My. God...... Screw the $500 pens I previously was pining over, I need this. It says backordered until January 2016, but I don't care! I must get this! It probably writes like crap, worst nib ever, but I'm sure it can be replaced. Oh man oh man... Someone could make a fortune making fountain pens based on geek stuff. Anime, movies, comics, etc. Maybe there actually is stuff like that out there.. if I found a Sailormoon one, there must be a ton of different pens inspired by fictional stuff.

Ah crap I found it on Amazon too for about $40.... I also have a friend in Japan who may be able to find one.... Damn this hobby and making me want so many things haha just like keycaps :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 03 October 2015, 12:06:40
Do it up Syribo, even if the nib is ****, im sure you can retrofit it with something more worthwhile.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 03 October 2015, 22:54:21
Do it up Syribo, even if the nib is ****, im sure you can retrofit it with something more worthwhile.

That's not always true.  Hopefully it is not a chinese kit pen, otherwise you won't be able to swap out the nibs without some srs hacking T-T
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 03 October 2015, 22:57:10
Do it up Syribo, even if the nib is ****, im sure you can retrofit it with something more worthwhile.

That's not always true.  Hopefully it is not a chinese kit pen, otherwise you won't be able to swap out the nibs without some srs hacking T-T

I would just hope that the feed can keep up.
If the nib needs some work then it can be an opportunity to learn how to work your own nibs :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sun, 04 October 2015, 09:11:43
I think I read a review somewhere about it, where it can be replaced.. but there are probably a whole bunch of different ones out there. I'm pretty sure it's from China. I just want it because.. well.. Sailor Moon haha, but would be nice if it could at least write at all!

As soon as I have the money for it at some point, I am sooooooooooo getting it no matter what. It's freaking perfect hahaha.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/eb1a8913ac1d1bad0add011fc2ba6d1a/tumblr_inline_n9p3z5qs4s1qiw26m.jpg)
There's what it's based off of.. it's freaking perfect gaaaahhhh

But seriously, someone could make a ton of money making geeky fountain pens out there.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Sun, 04 October 2015, 10:09:57
I think I read a review somewhere about it, where it can be replaced.. but there are probably a whole bunch of different ones out there. I'm pretty sure it's from China. I just want it because.. well.. Sailor Moon haha, but would be nice if it could at least write at all!

As soon as I have the money for it at some point, I am sooooooooooo getting it no matter what. It's freaking perfect hahaha.
Show Image
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/eb1a8913ac1d1bad0add011fc2ba6d1a/tumblr_inline_n9p3z5qs4s1qiw26m.jpg)

There's what it's based off of.. it's freaking perfect gaaaahhhh

But seriously, someone could make a ton of money making geeky fountain pens out there.

Welp.............. Aside from mechanical keyboards and fountain pens, and my love for coffee and pink stuff.. There's one more thing I love above all else..

...Sailor Moon. Don't judge me. The original subbed uncut Sailormoon was AMAZING. And it's been such a huge impact and part of my life since the days of watching it in 4th grade before school, dubbed.. until I got into the uncut stuff when I was in 7th grade, and to this day I still love it. I've cosplayed Sailor Jupiter, I have 7 Sailormoon posters on my wall, keychains, plushies, etc.

..Welp, just came across this on Etsy:
Show Image
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/054/0/8065563/il_570xN.766850979_jqbj.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/223399889/preorder-sailor-moon-gabis-disguise?ref=shop_home_active_2

Oh. My. God...... Screw the $500 pens I previously was pining over, I need this. It says backordered until January 2016, but I don't care! I must get this! It probably writes like crap, worst nib ever, but I'm sure it can be replaced. Oh man oh man... Someone could make a fortune making fountain pens based on geek stuff. Anime, movies, comics, etc. Maybe there actually is stuff like that out there.. if I found a Sailormoon one, there must be a ton of different pens inspired by fictional stuff.

Ah crap I found it on Amazon too for about $40.... I also have a friend in Japan who may be able to find one.... Damn this hobby and making me want so many things haha just like keycaps :P

I need a Mercury one. I have a ball point pen but could definitely go for a Mercury fountain pen. That thing is tempting though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sun, 04 October 2015, 17:07:12
I think I read a review somewhere about it, where it can be replaced.. but there are probably a whole bunch of different ones out there. I'm pretty sure it's from China. I just want it because.. well.. Sailor Moon haha, but would be nice if it could at least write at all!

As soon as I have the money for it at some point, I am sooooooooooo getting it no matter what. It's freaking perfect hahaha.
Show Image
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/eb1a8913ac1d1bad0add011fc2ba6d1a/tumblr_inline_n9p3z5qs4s1qiw26m.jpg)

There's what it's based off of.. it's freaking perfect gaaaahhhh

But seriously, someone could make a ton of money making geeky fountain pens out there.

Welp.............. Aside from mechanical keyboards and fountain pens, and my love for coffee and pink stuff.. There's one more thing I love above all else..

...Sailor Moon. Don't judge me. The original subbed uncut Sailormoon was AMAZING. And it's been such a huge impact and part of my life since the days of watching it in 4th grade before school, dubbed.. until I got into the uncut stuff when I was in 7th grade, and to this day I still love it. I've cosplayed Sailor Jupiter, I have 7 Sailormoon posters on my wall, keychains, plushies, etc.

..Welp, just came across this on Etsy:
Show Image
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/054/0/8065563/il_570xN.766850979_jqbj.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/223399889/preorder-sailor-moon-gabis-disguise?ref=shop_home_active_2

Oh. My. God...... Screw the $500 pens I previously was pining over, I need this. It says backordered until January 2016, but I don't care! I must get this! It probably writes like crap, worst nib ever, but I'm sure it can be replaced. Oh man oh man... Someone could make a fortune making fountain pens based on geek stuff. Anime, movies, comics, etc. Maybe there actually is stuff like that out there.. if I found a Sailormoon one, there must be a ton of different pens inspired by fictional stuff.

Ah crap I found it on Amazon too for about $40.... I also have a friend in Japan who may be able to find one.... Damn this hobby and making me want so many things haha just like keycaps :P

I need a Mercury one. I have a ball point pen but could definitely go for a Mercury fountain pen. That thing is tempting though.

Man... I would do anything for a perfect Sailor Jupiter henshin fountain pen....... That would be even more ideal than this disguise one, but I don't think there's any fountain pens based off the other senshi :( If only I had a 3D Printer and knew what to do to make a pen lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FreeCopy on Sun, 04 October 2015, 17:41:00
I think I read a review somewhere about it, where it can be replaced.. but there are probably a whole bunch of different ones out there. I'm pretty sure it's from China. I just want it because.. well.. Sailor Moon haha, but would be nice if it could at least write at all!

As soon as I have the money for it at some point, I am sooooooooooo getting it no matter what. It's freaking perfect hahaha.
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There's what it's based off of.. it's freaking perfect gaaaahhhh

But seriously, someone could make a ton of money making geeky fountain pens out there.

Welp.............. Aside from mechanical keyboards and fountain pens, and my love for coffee and pink stuff.. There's one more thing I love above all else..

...Sailor Moon. Don't judge me. The original subbed uncut Sailormoon was AMAZING. And it's been such a huge impact and part of my life since the days of watching it in 4th grade before school, dubbed.. until I got into the uncut stuff when I was in 7th grade, and to this day I still love it. I've cosplayed Sailor Jupiter, I have 7 Sailormoon posters on my wall, keychains, plushies, etc.

..Welp, just came across this on Etsy:
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https://www.etsy.com/listing/223399889/preorder-sailor-moon-gabis-disguise?ref=shop_home_active_2

Oh. My. God...... Screw the $500 pens I previously was pining over, I need this. It says backordered until January 2016, but I don't care! I must get this! It probably writes like crap, worst nib ever, but I'm sure it can be replaced. Oh man oh man... Someone could make a fortune making fountain pens based on geek stuff. Anime, movies, comics, etc. Maybe there actually is stuff like that out there.. if I found a Sailormoon one, there must be a ton of different pens inspired by fictional stuff.

Ah crap I found it on Amazon too for about $40.... I also have a friend in Japan who may be able to find one.... Damn this hobby and making me want so many things haha just like keycaps :P

I need a Mercury one. I have a ball point pen but could definitely go for a Mercury fountain pen. That thing is tempting though.

Man... I would do anything for a perfect Sailor Jupiter henshin fountain pen....... That would be even more ideal than this disguise one, but I don't think there's any fountain pens based off the other senshi :( If only I had a 3D Printer and knew what to do to make a pen lol

Best I could come up with would be to buy this set and try to convert one. http://www.sailormooncollectibles.com/for-sale/new-merchandise/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sun, 04 October 2015, 18:02:36
I think I read a review somewhere about it, where it can be replaced.. but there are probably a whole bunch of different ones out there. I'm pretty sure it's from China. I just want it because.. well.. Sailor Moon haha, but would be nice if it could at least write at all!

As soon as I have the money for it at some point, I am sooooooooooo getting it no matter what. It's freaking perfect hahaha.
Show Image
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/eb1a8913ac1d1bad0add011fc2ba6d1a/tumblr_inline_n9p3z5qs4s1qiw26m.jpg)

There's what it's based off of.. it's freaking perfect gaaaahhhh

But seriously, someone could make a ton of money making geeky fountain pens out there.

Welp.............. Aside from mechanical keyboards and fountain pens, and my love for coffee and pink stuff.. There's one more thing I love above all else..

...Sailor Moon. Don't judge me. The original subbed uncut Sailormoon was AMAZING. And it's been such a huge impact and part of my life since the days of watching it in 4th grade before school, dubbed.. until I got into the uncut stuff when I was in 7th grade, and to this day I still love it. I've cosplayed Sailor Jupiter, I have 7 Sailormoon posters on my wall, keychains, plushies, etc.

..Welp, just came across this on Etsy:
Show Image
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/054/0/8065563/il_570xN.766850979_jqbj.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/223399889/preorder-sailor-moon-gabis-disguise?ref=shop_home_active_2

Oh. My. God...... Screw the $500 pens I previously was pining over, I need this. It says backordered until January 2016, but I don't care! I must get this! It probably writes like crap, worst nib ever, but I'm sure it can be replaced. Oh man oh man... Someone could make a fortune making fountain pens based on geek stuff. Anime, movies, comics, etc. Maybe there actually is stuff like that out there.. if I found a Sailormoon one, there must be a ton of different pens inspired by fictional stuff.

Ah crap I found it on Amazon too for about $40.... I also have a friend in Japan who may be able to find one.... Damn this hobby and making me want so many things haha just like keycaps :P

I need a Mercury one. I have a ball point pen but could definitely go for a Mercury fountain pen. That thing is tempting though.

Man... I would do anything for a perfect Sailor Jupiter henshin fountain pen....... That would be even more ideal than this disguise one, but I don't think there's any fountain pens based off the other senshi :( If only I had a 3D Printer and knew what to do to make a pen lol

Best I could come up with would be to buy this set and try to convert one. http://www.sailormooncollectibles.com/for-sale/new-merchandise/
God, that would be AMAZING. I'd be all over a Jupiter one. Probably would cost a fortune to find someone that would be able to even do that. But that would be so incredible. I'd bring it everywhere haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 05 October 2015, 08:41:54
2015 Edison Pen Group Buy is alive! (http://edisonpen.com/index.cfm/2015/10/05/2015-limited-edition-mina-group-buy) I think I'll buy the ebonite version. :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 05 October 2015, 09:16:15
Ugh I'm so tempted. I want an Edison pretty bad but I want that pump filler which is a budget slayer.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Mon, 05 October 2015, 15:47:29
So, like keyboards, FP's seem to have similar 'tiers' from non named chinese and indian pens, to flagship pens into the thousands.

How much of that is just collector stuff, or confirmation bias, or whatever people use to justify that sort of thing as opposed to actual objective quality or usability?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 05 October 2015, 16:00:24
So, like keyboards, FP's seem to have similar 'tiers' from non named chinese and indian pens, to flagship pens into the thousands.

How much of that is just collector stuff, or confirmation bias, or whatever people use to justify that sort of thing as opposed to actual objective quality or usability?
I hear that the quality REALLY is different between cheaper pens and really expensive ones. By now, I've spent enough on cheaper pens and also inks, that I could have bought a more expensive pen probably lol.. even my dream pen. But sometimes I like quantity over quality.. I like that I have like six different pens, different nibs, sizes, colors, etc, so I can switch around and play with them :) Oh, and have each filled with different ink too.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Mon, 05 October 2015, 18:10:35
there is no direct correlation between a pen's price and its quality.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 05 October 2015, 19:15:45
2015 Edison Pen Group Buy is alive! (http://edisonpen.com/index.cfm/2015/10/05/2015-limited-edition-mina-group-buy) I think I'll buy the ebonite version. :)

Ugh I'm so tempted. I want an Edison pretty bad but I want that pump filler which is a budget slayer.

That 2015 pen is ugly as sin.  Yuuuck.. I'll take a FC40P any day over that.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 10:57:42
there is no direct correlation between a pen's price and its quality.

That is what I've found so far, which is why I wanted to ask. I know its subjective as all hell, but I've had just as many good experiences with my own army of freebie pens (noodlers non named and charlie) as I have my 'better' pens TWSBI Eco, and my friends Pelikans and Pilots.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 October 2015, 11:32:36
I think for me there's really three tiers of pens:

1) Affordable stuff under $100
2) Gold nib mid-tier pens at $150
3) Everything else

Problem is I play with both vintage and new so my pricing is skewed. I've paid $75 for a Mont Blanc 22 which has a gold nib.

So in general, I agree with iri. Price does not correlate with how a pen will perform.

That 2015 pen is ugly as sin.  Yuuuck.. I'll take a FC40P any day over that.

I just want an Edison tbh. I've really enjoyed all the ones I've tried. But as usual, what I like is really pricey :(.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 06 October 2015, 12:03:11
there is no direct correlation between a pen's price and its quality.

That is what I've found so far, which is why I wanted to ask. I know its subjective as all hell, but I've had just as many good experiences with my own army of freebie pens (noodlers non named and charlie) as I have my 'better' pens TWSBI Eco, and my friends Pelikans and Pilots.

Oddly enough my best pens have been absolute bargains. I think the best nib I've ever tried right out of the gate has been faber-castell.  CPTBadass turned me on to them for the quality of their nibs.  The 2nd best I ever tried was a soft-medium that CPTBadass owned.  Other than that just about every nib I've ever used other than well worn vintage nibs have not lived up to expectations or required some bit of work.  Every visconti I've owned has been inconsistent, my lamy 2000 required a bit of a tune-up, the first time I received my sailor nib it did not write at all and had to return it to nibs.com for a tune-up, and a lot of the noodlers I have owned required tuning to write comfortably.  My twsbi have, for the most part, been alright.  Because they seldom have interesting nibs I like to swap them out with Nemosine which are on the better side of OK.

My priorities in pens are filling/ink storage/pen dry out, nib, and materials/looks.  The way you fill/store ink in the pen is something you have to live with that affects how long you can write, the nib can be replaced... so it's not as important but it's so much better to have the experience of a good nib, and the body... well I love lots of shapes and sizes.  There has been no "right" body for me without there being exceptions to the rule.

That being said I have very little reason to believe paying more for a pen will do anything if the first two priorities of a pen aren't proven to be wonderful.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 12:42:18
You mention the Lamy 2000, that I something I was looking into getting. But all the reviews / posts are general griping or kvetching about it. Maybe it's a case of the good pens are just not spoken of (because the 'bad' ones are just the squeaky wheel getting the grease.) None of my pens surpass $75 at present, and I'm finding the ones that I really like probably never will. (Eyedropperz fa' lyfe) but the Lamy 2000 and its 'tier' are all rather expensive, but are they justifiably better / more well equipped / useful. I'm just not sure. I have no problem finding out, It was mostly just idle pondering. People expect Noodler's Pens to be tinkered with, and I feel like a lot of the naysaying may just be because people expect things like a Pilot VP to 'just work.'

If I had to prioritize what I want / need in a pen it would be this:

Capacity
Nib feel
Fill Mechanism
Durability

Overall with form following function.




Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 October 2015, 12:44:58
Faber Castell is seriously being slept on haha. And that Pilot 74 with the soft-medium is still with me. Wonderful pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 06 October 2015, 13:15:22
You mention the Lamy 2000, that I something I was looking into getting. But all the reviews / posts are general griping or kvetching about it. Maybe it's a case of the good pens are just not spoken of (because the 'bad' ones are just the squeaky wheel getting the grease.) None of my pens surpass $75 at present, and I'm finding the ones that I really like probably never will. (Eyedropperz fa' lyfe) but the Lamy 2000 and its 'tier' are all rather expensive, but are they justifiably better / more well equipped / useful. I'm just not sure. I have no problem finding out, It was mostly just idle pondering. People expect Noodler's Pens to be tinkered with, and I feel like a lot of the naysaying may just be because people expect things like a Pilot VP to 'just work.'

If I had to prioritize what I want / need in a pen it would be this:

Capacity
Nib feel
Fill Mechanism
Durability

Overall with form following function.






L2k is solid.  Just expect that the nib won't make you have blissful dreams.  If you get the nib worked on... well then it's pretty damn cool and far exceeds its own value.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 13:31:54
I'm thinking L2K + Music Nib. Ever since you lot kind of showed me Nib work in general I've been thinking about it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 06 October 2015, 13:35:50
I'm thinking L2K + Music Nib. Ever since you lot kind of showed me Nib work in general I've been thinking about it.

I don't believe the L2K comes in a music nib.  The reason is because the L2k has a specialty nib.  The shape and size are entirely unique and only made by LAMY.  Their sizes are F-B, and they might have a stub, but I have yet to see one retail with a stub nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 14:32:10
No i meant get a standard L2K (and extra nibs) and ship a couple out to get worked on.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 October 2015, 14:34:16
Can you hack a nib onto a Lamy 2000? I think that's where Binge was going. It's got that partially hooded nib that music nibs may not fit into. Music nibs are big three tined or two tined stub nibs which can be flexible or not (http://www.gourmetpens.com/2014/09/two-tines-three-tines-symphony-of-music.html#.VhQigPlVhBc). I'm not sure there are any music nibs that will fit. I could be wrong though, I'm no nib-hacking expert.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 06 October 2015, 14:35:59
No i meant get a standard L2K (and extra nibs) and ship a couple out to get worked on.

Actual music nibs have 2 slits instead of one providing three tines.
You can just take a nib and turn it into a music nib.
I believe sailor has a single slit nib they call a music nib but I think it's probably a nib that only imitates how a music nib writes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 October 2015, 14:38:24
Actual music nibs have 2 slits instead of one providing three tines.
You can just take a nib and turn it into a music nib.

Not really. If I took a Noodler pen and cut and extra slit in the nib, it wouldn't make the nib a music nib. Here's a really good article (http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/ttp/music.htm) with pictures explaining how the nib of a music nib works.

I believe sailor has a single slit nib they call a music nib but I think it's probably a nib that only imitates how a music nib writes.

They do and I think it's not a true music nib. I always tend towards the three tine school of thought.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 14:56:19
It's a total hypothetical at this point for me. I just want to graduate to something beyond where I am at that I can carry around at work. A friend of mine is sending me a Neponset to play around with for the time being that is rather sedate.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:33:12
I want to try a more expensive pen so bad lol The most expensive pen I've tried is my Faber-Castell Loom.. which was like $40 lol. I want to see the difference between a cheaper pen and a high end or mid tier one. I also wanna see the hype about VP's are all about lol.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:36:49
I want to try a more expensive pen so bad lol The most expensive pen I've tried is my Faber-Castell Loom.. which was like $40 lol. I want to see the difference between a cheaper pen and a high end or mid tier one. I also wanna see the hype about VP's are all about lol.

CPT likes his VP a lot more than I enjoyed mine..  Just don't get a fine/extra fine.  They're too wimpy for how boss the VP's body can be.

If you ever find yourself in PA just PM me and you can sample my entire collection.  Nothing for sale, but you'll get a great idea of everything from fine to weird broad/music variants.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:38:35

@Syribo Right there with you I got to play with a VP, it was very nice, and L2K is on the list and the Neponset of course. Right now the 'highest end' pen I have is the lowly TWSBI Eco which has been very nice, if a little broad for a 'medium.'

@Binge, what do you have regarding music nibs just out of curiosity. And can you tell me if there is any differences between Music / Hebrew / Architect / Arabic nibs. Cause I keep googling and just confusing myself.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:38:55
Hey hey, VPs have broad and a 1.0 stub nib now. I love my vp. It's my daily carry at work. No cap to mess with and low key. Perfect for a factory floor.

@SL89

Music nibs are actual standard nibs. Like a certain kind of nib. Check the links I dropped above.

The other three things you listed are various grinds you can get for a nib. They're all the same grind lol. It produces a thin vertical stroke and a fat cross stroke. Just flair for your handwriting. You could architect grind a broad or a fine. It's not a standard nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:40:43
Music nibs are actually nibs.

The other three things you listed are various grinds you can get for a nib. They're all the same grind lol.

That makes sense. Now how do those ground nibs compare to a music nib? They all fulfill the same function right?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:41:50
See my edit.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:49:23
Thanks for clarifying that then!

What I was talking about way before (The Lamy 2k + Music Nib) was actually this. Getting a stock (Medium or Fine) L2K and having it ground to be an Architect.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 06 October 2015, 16:59:31
Thanks for clarifying that then!

What I was talking about way before (The Lamy 2k + Music Nib) was actually this. Getting a stock (Medium or Fine) L2K and having it ground to be an Architect.

that's unfortunately not possible... architect, music, and other nibs which require a lot of metal can't be made from nibs that have less material unless they are re-tipped.  Nobody will re-tip a l2k unless you are friends with some sort of elder god.

L2K is a workhorse pen.  Rarely runs dry, holds lots of ink, but the nib will always be something plain-yet reliable.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 06 October 2015, 17:41:57
You know you are a lost case when you start getting your pens customized...

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Some months ago I found a black-red Pelikan Souverän M800 for sale on eBay. This color option is discontinued on the M800 line. I already had one, but the pen was being sold without the nib by a very good price. When it arrived, I immediately knew why it was cheap: a stiff piston mechanism and a scratched body.

I solved the piston stiffness by disassembling the piston mechanism and lubricating it. Good thing I had a TWSBI wrench, it is perfect for the job. I already had an spare nib, a 3B bought at Martini Auctions (http://martiniauctions.com/), so I had 2 functional pens.

I don't mind scratched pens, so I tried to trade the pen with the unscratched body for another M800 in other color, targeting primarily the blue version. No success.

Some months later, looking at unread posts at Fountain Pen Network, I saw a post from Shawn Newton (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/291734-pelikan-binde/) telling that he can make a custom binde on Pelikan pens. The binde is an outer shell or sleeve that covers the body of the pens of the Souverän line, as you can see on this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWhEytzwVmA). Sent him an email, talked about the possibilities, and when all was set sent him the pen. (Advanced payment for the service, btw.)

He finished the pen last Saturday and sent it back to me just few hours ago. He also sent me some photos by email and I'm already in love with the pen.



tl;dr version: Bought used M800 without nib, tried to trade, knew that Shawn from Newton Pens can customize them, sent the pen for him, got pen customized.

Photos of the pen Shawn sent for me:

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:11:46
Thanks for clarifying that then!

What I was talking about way before (The Lamy 2k + Music Nib) was actually this. Getting a stock (Medium or Fine) L2K and having it ground to be an Architect.

that's unfortunately not possible... architect, music, and other nibs which require a lot of metal can't be made from nibs that have less material unless they are re-tipped.  Nobody will re-tip a l2k unless you are friends with some sort of elder god.

L2K is a workhorse pen.  Rarely runs dry, holds lots of ink, but the nib will always be something plain-yet reliable.

Thanks for explaining that, ****it and all the fancy stuff, a workhorse is just what I want for work! I may just go on massdrop and get in on the one they have for sale right now...

EDIT: Vinny that is a beautiful looking pen

Also the L2K is off massdrop... oh well.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 06 October 2015, 19:15:00
pelikan m800 is also a workhorse

ta-da-da-daaaaaam
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 06 October 2015, 22:25:56
imo, music nibs are just stubs with additional slits for increased ink delivery. In practical usage, a single slit stub ground with allowance for high writing angles, with a wet ink flow will write pretty much the same line as a music nib. Other than a technical difference in definition, there is no practical difference between a properly customized stub and a music nib.

Architect grinds can be done on L2K, depending on what requirements you have for the final result. It has been done on nibs with much smaller tipping sizes (read: a pilot medium - which is pretty much a western Fine; see link - http://edjelley.com/2015/07/13/pilot-custom-823-fountain-pen-with-architect-grind-review/). The L2K has more than enough tipping to do it, just consult the nibmeister you're planning to sent it to, and ask him which nib to use as a starting point for the resultant line you're looking at.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 October 2015, 01:17:30
There's a Massdrop for 2 packs of 7 fountain pens of different colours.  Disposable pens, but I'm ok with that.  The price is also within my budget (sort of), and a cheap way of getting a few different colour inks.

I'm still using my first two fountain pens, also disposable Pilots, although the one I use at work is getting low on ink.

Question 1: How long does a new unused fountain pen remain perfectly servicable?  Like if I buy these ones, I might not use some of them for 6 months or more.  Will they still be good at that time?

Question 2: Some of the colours I would not use often.  After use, assuming they were stored horizontally with the cap on, how long would they remain servicable?

Edit: The drop ended and I missed it, but the questions still stand in case it comes back again.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 07:16:12
You know you are a lost case when you start getting your pens customized...

Long version:

More
Some months ago I found a black-red Pelikan Souverän M800 for sale on eBay. This color option is discontinued on the M800 line. I already had one, but the pen was being sold without the nib by a very good price. When it arrived, I immediately knew why it was cheap: a stiff piston mechanism and a scratched body.

I solved the piston stiffness by disassembling the piston mechanism and lubricating it. Good thing I had a TWSBI wrench, it is perfect for the job. I already had an spare nib, a 3B bought at Martini Auctions (http://martiniauctions.com/), so I had 2 functional pens.

I don't mind scratched pens, so I tried to trade the pen with the unscratched body for another M800 in other color, targeting primarily the blue version. No success.

Some months later, looking at unread posts at Fountain Pen Network, I saw a post from Shawn Newton (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/291734-pelikan-binde/) telling that he can make a custom binde on Pelikan pens. The binde is an outer shell or sleeve that covers the body of the pens of the Souverän line, as you can see on this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWhEytzwVmA). Sent him an email, talked about the possibilities, and when all was set sent him the pen. (Advanced payment for the service, btw.)

He finished the pen last Saturday and sent it back to me just few hours ago. He also sent me some photos by email and I'm already in love with the pen.



tl;dr version: Bought used M800 without nib, tried to trade, knew that Shawn from Newton Pens can customize them, sent the pen for him, got pen customized.

Photos of the pen Shawn sent for me:

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Oooo I saw that on his instagram!! What a nice pen.

There's a Massdrop for 2 packs of 7 fountain pens of different colours.  Disposable pens, but I'm ok with that.  The price is also within my budget (sort of), and a cheap way of getting a few different colour inks.

I'm still using my first two fountain pens, also disposable Pilots, although the one I use at work is getting low on ink.

Question 1: How long does a new unused fountain pen remain perfectly servicable?  Like if I buy these ones, I might not use some of them for 6 months or more.  Will they still be good at that time?

Question 2: Some of the colours I would not use often.  After use, assuming they were stored horizontally with the cap on, how long would they remain servicable?

Edit: The drop ended and I missed it, but the questions still stand in case it comes back again.

Should work just like a ballpoint in terms of storage. I leave one of those sitting at my desk and don't use it for months. Works like a charm every time. Doesn't matter what the orientation is. I've stored them both ways.

that's unfortunately not possible... architect, music, and other nibs which require a lot of metal can't be made from nibs that have less material unless they are re-tipped.  Nobody will re-tip a l2k unless you are friends with some sort of elder god.

Like Larken said, you can get a fine architect nib. Just check out @thenibsmith on Instagram.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 07 October 2015, 09:49:07
Does anyone here use ink rollerballs?

Or high end gel refills?

I was recently told that high end gel refills can compete with fountain pens. Is this true?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 09:50:37
Does anyone here use ink rollerballs?

Or high end gel refills?

I was recently told that high end gel refills can compete with fountain pens. Is this true?

I do. I just picked one up for a pen I was gifted. I prefer fountain pens but rollerballs are *really* smooth. I'm not into gel refills but I've heard good things about them.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Wed, 07 October 2015, 11:13:31
Does anyone here use ink rollerballs?

Or high end gel refills?

I was recently told that high end gel refills can compete with fountain pens. Is this true?

I use hitec-c refills in my pen and absolutely love it. Super smooth and very fine lines.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 07 October 2015, 11:56:49
Does anyone here use ink rollerballs?

Or high end gel refills?

I was recently told that high end gel refills can compete with fountain pens. Is this true?

I have the rollerball version of the Lamy Safari, use it mostly for post-it notes. I like it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 07 October 2015, 12:06:54
Does anyone here use ink rollerballs?

Or high end gel refills?

I was recently told that high end gel refills can compete with fountain pens. Is this true?

Some of the gel ones are probably close.

I use piston fill rollerball pens. I quite like it. The only thing is that it is very wet writing to start sometimes. But that is usually avoidable.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 07 October 2015, 12:10:29
I have the rollerball version of the Lamy Safari, use it mostly for post-it notes. I like it.
i mean, rollerballs refillable with fountain pen ink.

Some of the gel ones are probably close.
cool, which ones?

I use piston fill rollerball pens
cool, which ones?

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 07 October 2015, 12:41:44
Lol sorry. Im on mobile.

For the rollerball pens I have 2 of the Noodlers Ink Creaper Piston Fill rollerball pens and one Platinum Preppy eyedropper.

Im in the process of figuring out which inks work best. It seems like thicker inks do as the thinner ones leak behind the piston and out of the rollerball mechanism.

Regarding gel pens, consider me +1 for the Hi Tec, and I have a slew of Pilot and Zebra gel pens. But I'm not sure which models. Tho I can look it up when I am in at the office tomorrow.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 07 October 2015, 13:22:15
You guys are killing me with your nice pens haha. My most recent pen is just a Lamy Vista with a 1.1 stub nib. Can't wait for the day I can justify splurging on a nice pen :)

I wanna know... when you guys write letters to friends and stuff, what do you write about? Just anything? For sending letters to others on here, that's easy, we all have a bunch of things in common already. But other people.. I don't even know lol. I guess just talk about life? Where you live, what you like to do, where you'd like to go, etc?

I also registered with an organization that assigns you soldiers to write letters to who are deployed. It makes me sad when I think about being deployed over there.. and not getting any mail from anyone. I asked my Dad if he would have liked that (He was in the Marines in Vietnam), and he actually received some letters over there from people like me, and he enjoyed it. So definitely going to do it :) Maybe even eventually send out care packages too with random things and baked goods and stuff.

I have a whole bunch of letters to send out.. and some ink samples, as soon as USPS drops off the padded envelopes I ordered.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 07 October 2015, 13:25:39
I just snagged a bid for a Visconti Opera Club Cherry Juice.
130 euros. Sure it's a cartridge converter pen but God damn I would take that deal any day of the week  ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 13:27:30
I wanna know... when you guys write letters to friends and stuff, what do you write about? Just anything? For sending letters to others on here, that's easy, we all have a bunch of things in common already. But other people.. I don't even know lol. I guess just talk about life? Where you live, what you like to do, where you'd like to go, etc?

The usual bull**** I spout: Music, food, fashion, nerd stuff like keyboards.

You guys are killing me with your nice pens haha.

I'm pretty sure there's an active LI and NYC fountain pen community. I'm fortunate enough to have the means to buy some nice pens but where I've done most of my pen testing is at my local fountain pen club and fountain pen shows. LI has a show. I forget when during the year it is or where it is but that's something to look into.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:20:39
There's a Massdrop for 2 packs of 7 fountain pens of different colours.  Disposable pens, but I'm ok with that.  The price is also within my budget (sort of), and a cheap way of getting a few different colour inks.

I'm still using my first two fountain pens, also disposable Pilots, although the one I use at work is getting low on ink.

Question 1: How long does a new unused fountain pen remain perfectly servicable?  Like if I buy these ones, I might not use some of them for 6 months or more.  Will they still be good at that time?

Question 2: Some of the colours I would not use often.  After use, assuming they were stored horizontally with the cap on, how long would they remain servicable?

Edit: The drop ended and I missed it, but the questions still stand in case it comes back again.

Should work just like a ballpoint in terms of storage. I leave one of those sitting at my desk and don't use it for months. Works like a charm every time. Doesn't matter what the orientation is. I've stored them both ways.

I was hoping to hear something like that, although I've had ballpoint pens that have leaked in storage, ink completely dried up, ball fallen out when I've been scribbling to try to get them to work (and they almost always need a lot of scribbling to work).

I guess my main concern was ink drying in the nib, especially for disposables, where the nibs are generally not removable (without extra effort).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:22:28
I haven't had any issue with the ink drying out. Even if it did (which I doubt), you can run the nib under the faucet to get it started again.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:32:25
Are those the Varsity pens? Those are pretty nice and won't dry out. I have a 4 pack on my desk at work and the people in IT with me love them. Idk why but esp the purple inked one.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:35:06
I wanna know... when you guys write letters to friends and stuff, what do you write about? Just anything? For sending letters to others on here, that's easy, we all have a bunch of things in common already. But other people.. I don't even know lol. I guess just talk about life? Where you live, what you like to do, where you'd like to go, etc?

The usual bull**** I spout: Music, food, fashion, nerd stuff like keyboards.

You guys are killing me with your nice pens haha.

I'm pretty sure there's an active LI and NYC fountain pen community. I'm fortunate enough to have the means to buy some nice pens but where I've done most of my pen testing is at my local fountain pen club and fountain pen shows. LI has a show. I forget when during the year it is or where it is but that's something to look into.
I remember you mentioning the show here before :) Definitely gonna look into that. I still have the Emerald of Chivor sample for ya, waiting on the padded envelopes to get here already so I can send it and the letter too :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:41:45
Welp, found yet another pen I'm in love with...
http://www.penboutique.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=13650&SEName=sailor-millecolor-pinkgold-ip-fountain-pen&gclid=CKykktiOscgCFcMXHwodjB8EYw
(http://www.penboutique.com/images/product/large/13650_1_.jpg)
This.. is.. so.. nice. Okay. I REALLY need to stop looking at pens now lol

Edit: Crap, and then I find THIS http://www.sanrio.com/product/hello-kitty-40th-anniversary-fountain-pen/
(http://cdn04.sanrio.com/resources/sanrio/images/products/processed/52814-201406.a.zoom.jpg)

...Hello Kitty Anniversary fountain pen by Sailor.. Japan, y u do dis?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:52:45
Are those the Varsity pens? Those are pretty nice and won't dry out. I have a 4 pack on my desk at work and the people in IT with me love them. Idk why but esp the purple inked one.

Yes

...Hello Kitty Anniversary fountain pen by Sailor.. Japan, y u do dis?

I've been eyeing that for ages ugh.

I remember you mentioning the show here before :) Definitely gonna look into that. I still have the Emerald of Chivor sample for ya, waiting on the padded envelopes to get here already so I can send it and the letter too :D

Thanks!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:53:40
Do it Syribo, your uber pink collection seems very unique.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 07 October 2015, 15:32:55
Are those the Varsity pens? Those are pretty nice and won't dry out. I have a 4 pack on my desk at work and the people in IT with me love them. Idk why but esp the purple inked one.

Yes

...Hello Kitty Anniversary fountain pen by Sailor.. Japan, y u do dis?

I've been eyeing that for ages ugh.

I remember you mentioning the show here before :) Definitely gonna look into that. I still have the Emerald of Chivor sample for ya, waiting on the padded envelopes to get here already so I can send it and the letter too :D

Thanks!

Hey it looks like it's on sale at least haha.. but still almost $400 ugh... Damn it Japan.

Do it Syribo, your uber pink collection seems very unique.
Bahaha I wish! It will be a while before I can justify spending hundreds on a pen :) But you can bet that my first mid/high tier pen will be pink :) I'm laying here with my pink Hello Kitty throw blanket with a set of Hello Kitty pajamas lol
(http://i.imgur.com/2H9tnPo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/UbkYP3H.jpg)
My cat likes it too, don't mind her ***** face, that's just her normal face. She's a little ****.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 07 October 2015, 16:21:40
Kitteh!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 07 October 2015, 18:06:30
Syribo, another pink pen for you: Pilot Vanishing Point 2011 Limited Edition (http://blog.penboutique.com/2011/08/pilot-namiki-vanishing-point-2011.html).

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 October 2015, 20:57:24
I haven't had any issue with the ink drying out. Even if it did (which I doubt), you can run the nib under the faucet to get it started again.

That's fantastic, thanks!  Fountain pens are great :)

Are those the Varsity pens? Those are pretty nice and won't dry out. I have a 4 pack on my desk at work and the people in IT with me love them. Idk why but esp the purple inked one.

Yes, they are Varsity.  2 x 7 pack, lots of different colours that are nice to have but which I wouldn't use often.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 October 2015, 19:57:12
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 08 October 2015, 20:02:58
fuuuuu
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 08 October 2015, 20:05:25
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Sweet. Is that a limited edition MB ink?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 08 October 2015, 20:10:43
I'm not exactly sure. I thought I heard it was limited edition but they're in stock in a bunch of retailers online and they had plenty in stock at Fountain Pen Hospital in NYC.

Like every other MB ink I've tried, it's really well behaved and just a bit wet. I really like MB inks and I think they're not a bad price.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 08 October 2015, 20:17:46
I really like inks being just a bit wet.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 08 October 2015, 21:42:26
CPTBadAss I actually did try the Montblanc pink! I got a sample of it from Anderon, it's freaking beautiful.. and now I want a full bottle haha. The only pinks I have in a full bottle so far is Diamine Hope Pink, and my favorite.. the J. Herbin Rose Tendresse. I still have to do a writing sample of that one for this thread. I'm working on getting letters done tonight, and getting samples all ready to go, so I'll do that too! I think I have about 20 pink ink samples.... A little overboard on the pink lol.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 09 October 2015, 23:04:57
God I hate my Noodler's Ahab so much. I really like having a flex nib, they're so fun to write with but this thing just sucks so bad lol. It leaks, it railroads constantly, it randomly won't write at all. I've looked up tips on tuning it to help, but nothing helps.. bleah. I really want a flex nib but man this thing bites. I need to look into more options that also don't break the bank.

I REALLY love the 1.1mm stub nib I put on my Lamy Vista though, holy crap that thing is nice. I kinda wanna try even a 1.5mm because they really are fun to write with!

Anyone have a flex nib they like? Or anyone else have an Ahab?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 09 October 2015, 23:41:08
So, finally decided to splurge and have the TWSBI Eco in the mail with a fine nib.  I'm looking forward to playing with it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 10 October 2015, 00:22:03
God I hate my Noodler's Ahab so much. I really like having a flex nib, they're so fun to write with but this thing just sucks so bad lol. It leaks, it railroads constantly, it randomly won't write at all. I've looked up tips on tuning it to help, but nothing helps.. bleah. I really want a flex nib but man this thing bites. I need to look into more options that also don't break the bank.

I REALLY love the 1.1mm stub nib I put on my Lamy Vista though, holy crap that thing is nice. I kinda wanna try even a 1.5mm because they really are fun to write with!

Anyone have a flex nib they like? Or anyone else have an Ahab?

I use an ahab often.  If you want I can send you it.   I can get pretty awesome flex out of it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 10 October 2015, 00:41:26
God I hate my Noodler's Ahab so much. I really like having a flex nib, they're so fun to write with but this thing just sucks so bad lol. It leaks, it railroads constantly, it randomly won't write at all. I've looked up tips on tuning it to help, but nothing helps.. bleah. I really want a flex nib but man this thing bites. I need to look into more options that also don't break the bank.

I REALLY love the 1.1mm stub nib I put on my Lamy Vista though, holy crap that thing is nice. I kinda wanna try even a 1.5mm because they really are fun to write with!

Anyone have a flex nib they like? Or anyone else have an Ahab?

Noodler's flex pens require an inordinate amount of modding and tweaking to make them work well; it can be done, but its not easy for someone new to them.

When it comes to flex, vintage is where its at. However, these are a huge pain to use due to their sac filling systems; they're alright if you're keeping one ink inside all the time, but a real chore to flush out. They're also usually about 80 - 100 usd minimum thereabouts for a user-grade pen.

Modern flex pens all have their own issues (and are semi-flex at best), and they're usually priced at a higher range. Most will not work well for the large, flowing western scripts without modification (even if it can be done). But if you're simply looking for some line variation in your normal handwriting, a pilot soft fine might be a possible choice.

Imo, try fitting together a frankenpen. Many have had success fitting a Zebra Titanium G nib into Jinhao x750s. A pack of 10 nibs with the x750 should run you for under 30 bucks; with the caveat that the nibs have to be replaced every few months if you're a frequent user.
see link  http://www.parkablogs.com/content/how-use-zebra-g-nib-fountain-pen
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 10 October 2015, 04:45:57
So, finally decided to splurge and have the TWSBI Eco in the mail with a fine nib.  I'm looking forward to playing with it.

Is the Eco nib the same as the 580 one?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Sat, 10 October 2015, 05:11:50
Anyone have a flex nib they like? Or anyone else have an Ahab?

I have an Ahab but I have modded the nib by removing some material to make it easier to flex and it writes much better now. It requires significantly less pressure to flex than a stock Ahab nib. It occasionally has some hard starts and skips but priming the feed with the plunger usually gets it going again.

(http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz328/stalker81598/geekhack/AhabNib_zpsvafcexbl.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 10 October 2015, 10:00:16
God I hate my Noodler's Ahab so much. I really like having a flex nib, they're so fun to write with but this thing just sucks so bad lol. It leaks, it railroads constantly, it randomly won't write at all. I've looked up tips on tuning it to help, but nothing helps.. bleah. I really want a flex nib but man this thing bites. I need to look into more options that also don't break the bank.

I REALLY love the 1.1mm stub nib I put on my Lamy Vista though, holy crap that thing is nice. I kinda wanna try even a 1.5mm because they really are fun to write with!

Anyone have a flex nib they like? Or anyone else have an Ahab?

I have an Ahab. And 3 ebonite Konrads. Love them, but as someone else said, you have to tune the pens before they perform well. And on all these pens I use stub nibs: 0.6mm and 0.8mm from Nemosine, 1.1mm and 1.9mm from Knox and 1.5mm from Goulet. (Yes, there are more nibs than pens here.)

For flex writing (which I suck), I use a Desiderata Daedalus pen. It is hand-made and crafted around Zebra G dip nibs. I have paid $50 on it, when the pre-order for the first batch was opened. Now they cost $65 and you have to sign Desiderata newsletter to know when a new batch is for sale, because they sell fast.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 10 October 2015, 11:44:50
God I hate my Noodler's Ahab so much. I really like having a flex nib, they're so fun to write with but this thing just sucks so bad lol. It leaks, it railroads constantly, it randomly won't write at all. I've looked up tips on tuning it to help, but nothing helps.. bleah. I really want a flex nib but man this thing bites. I need to look into more options that also don't break the bank.

I REALLY love the 1.1mm stub nib I put on my Lamy Vista though, holy crap that thing is nice. I kinda wanna try even a 1.5mm because they really are fun to write with!

Anyone have a flex nib they like? Or anyone else have an Ahab?

I've not found a modern flex pen I like. All hail vintage flex. I've got a Warranted vintage flex that goes from Fine to Broad and a Warranted music flex nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:07:27
Maybe because I hardly use script, but I'm not a fan of flex.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:56:43
God I hate my Noodler's Ahab so much. I really like having a flex nib, they're so fun to write with but this thing just sucks so bad lol. It leaks, it railroads constantly, it randomly won't write at all. I've looked up tips on tuning it to help, but nothing helps.. bleah. I really want a flex nib but man this thing bites. I need to look into more options that also don't break the bank.

I REALLY love the 1.1mm stub nib I put on my Lamy Vista though, holy crap that thing is nice. I kinda wanna try even a 1.5mm because they really are fun to write with!

Anyone have a flex nib they like? Or anyone else have an Ahab?

I've not found a modern flex pen I like. All hail vintage flex. I've got a Warranted vintage flex that goes from Fine to Broad and a Warranted music flex nib.
German fine to German broad, or Japanese fine to Japanese broad?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 10 October 2015, 13:18:52
Believe the warranted nibs I have were made in the USA.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 10 October 2015, 18:10:51
So, finally decided to splurge and have the TWSBI Eco in the mail with a fine nib.  I'm looking forward to playing with it.

Is the Eco nib the same as the 580 one?

No clue.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 10 October 2015, 23:13:32
So, finally decided to splurge and have the TWSBI Eco in the mail with a fine nib.  I'm looking forward to playing with it.

Is the Eco nib the same as the 580 one?

Same Jowo nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Mon, 12 October 2015, 12:01:41
A while ago I bought a Russia-made pen holder and a bunch of nibs. Didn't like them so handed them over to a colleague (who can draw) together with Diamine Chocolate Brown.

This is the result.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12047188_1061856387182234_6511779108889773378_n.jpg?oh=14be5f5bcc4be240e1ba2c18b9701dc0&oe=569BCD54)

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(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12118825_1063148127053060_4537337743721542022_n.jpg?oh=bb011afbea179658e11a922fe8357666&oe=569A9D98)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12096366_1062707103763829_8094254845919612539_n.jpg?oh=7ba4dbdebd41809e7415aab3508385d2&oe=568CEF2E)

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(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12106887_1064511480250058_7947759810646291886_n.jpg?oh=d810fa8bf1c740f8a5b47dac5a032870&oe=56886237)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 October 2015, 16:44:51
^ Fantastic pics! :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: byker on Mon, 12 October 2015, 19:00:56
Wow! So cool! Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 13 October 2015, 11:32:36
A while ago I bought a Russia-made pen holder and a bunch of nibs. Didn't like them so handed them over to a colleague (who can draw) together with Diamine Chocolate Brown.

This is the result.

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Very very nice!  <3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 13 October 2015, 11:33:33
That ladybug and the little birdy at the end are great :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 13 October 2015, 12:04:03
hey guys...............long time no hear.

binge don't give up on me as your pen is still in the box.

howz the music pelikan these days anson?

iri............loving that turtle :thumb:

being a University of Maryland guy................."hail the turtle" (hence my name terrpn :cool:)

(http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/01glance/symbols/images/mascot.gif)

my low visibility these days is due to my disability  I got while on Active Duty, fairly low key these days :-\

do miss hanging and chatting with you guys (including binge and cptBadAss)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 13 October 2015, 15:08:01
hey guys...............long time no hear.

binge don't give up on me as your pen is still in the box.

howz the music pelikan these days anson?

iri............loving that turtle :thumb:

being a University of Maryland guy................."hail the turtle" (hence my name terrpn :cool:)

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my low visibility these days is due to my disability  I got while on Active Duty, fairly low key these days :-\

do miss hanging and chatting with you guys (including binge and cptBadAss)

Much love terrpn.  Keep on kickin ass!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 13 October 2015, 16:05:42
ok, i bought six different gel refills for test. ceramic and not, pressurized and not.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Tue, 13 October 2015, 16:10:48
A while ago I bought a Russia-made pen holder and a bunch of nibs. Didn't like them so handed them over to a colleague (who can draw) together with Diamine Chocolate Brown.

This is the result.

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Whoa, they are insanely talented!! I would totally even frame some of those on my wall.. especially that bird one (I have a slight bird obsession.. anything bird related). Wow I wish I could do stuff like that.. beautiful.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 14 October 2015, 01:20:13
hey guys...............long time no hear.

binge don't give up on me as your pen is still in the box.

howz the music pelikan these days anson?

iri............loving that turtle :thumb:

being a University of Maryland guy................."hail the turtle" (hence my name terrpn :cool:)

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my low visibility these days is due to my disability  I got while on Active Duty, fairly low key these days :-\

do miss hanging and chatting with you guys (including binge and cptBadAss)

TERRPN IS BACK!!! Welcome back good sir!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 14 October 2015, 14:11:58
hey guys...............long time no hear.

binge don't give up on me as your pen is still in the box.

howz the music pelikan these days anson?

iri............loving that turtle :thumb:

being a University of Maryland guy................."hail the turtle" (hence my name terrpn :cool:)

Show Image
(http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/01glance/symbols/images/mascot.gif)


my low visibility these days is due to my disability  I got while on Active Duty, fairly low key these days :-\

do miss hanging and chatting with you guys (including binge and cptBadAss)

TERRPN IS BACK!!! Welcome back good sir!

hey my brother................ :-\

i don't know if i am back, but am doing better these dayz :thumb:

still luv'n yer caps!!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 14 October 2015, 20:39:32
howz the music pelikan these days anson?

Glad you're around again terrpn :D. The Pelikan is well loved.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 14 October 2015, 23:31:13
hey guys...............long time no hear.

binge don't give up on me as your pen is still in the box.

howz the music pelikan these days anson?

iri............loving that turtle :thumb:

being a University of Maryland guy................."hail the turtle" (hence my name terrpn :cool:)

Show Image
(http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/01glance/symbols/images/mascot.gif)


my low visibility these days is due to my disability  I got while on Active Duty, fairly low key these days :-\

do miss hanging and chatting with you guys (including binge and cptBadAss)

TERRPN IS BACK!!! Welcome back good sir!

hey my brother................ :-\

i don't know if i am back, but am doing better these dayz :thumb:

still luv'n yer caps!!

Well no matter what it's good to hear from you. Hope everything is on the up and up these days.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Thu, 15 October 2015, 19:08:58
Ordered my first fountain pen tonight: TWSBI 580AL (purple). I can't wait for it to get here and try it out - you guys have got me thinking I need to give this fountain pen thing a try.
Even if I hate writing with it, that thing is just beautiful to keep around...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:01:12
Okay so who else wants to be pen pals? I've got CptBadAss's letter and ink samples ready to go out soon, and a letter to another friend, but now I need more! I'm up to like.. 8 pens and 60 sample vials of ink, and 9 full bottles, along with countless paper, notebooks and stationery. I need more people to write to to use it up haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:38:11
Having a pen pal would be cool but I have no idea how shipping between Canada and the States would affect postage.
It would be a great excuse to buy lots of new inks to show off though. And new pens.
Really I just need to justify my addiction with a use for it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 15 October 2015, 23:50:42
Having a pen pal would be cool but I have no idea how shipping between Canada and the States would affect postage.
It would be a great excuse to buy lots of new inks to show off though. And new pens.
Really I just need to justify my addiction with a use for it.
Shouldn't be too expensive to send just a letter between the US and Canada. I know it's expensive to ship packages, though. I sent a care package to my best friend in Canada and it cost me like $80 to send it last year. But a letter? I would imagine it's just a few bucks at most :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 16 October 2015, 00:28:40
Having a pen pal would be cool but I have no idea how shipping between Canada and the States would affect postage.
It would be a great excuse to buy lots of new inks to show off though. And new pens.
Really I just need to justify my addiction with a use for it.
Shouldn't be too expensive to send just a letter between the US and Canada. I know it's expensive to ship packages, though. I sent a care package to my best friend in Canada and it cost me like $80 to send it last year. But a letter? I would imagine it's just a few bucks at most :)
Nice. It would definitely be cool to have a person to write to which would give purpose to my writing and a few dollars is of no expense to me.
Other than my journal entries -which I sometimes forget to write- I don't really get something meaningful to gear my fine writing towards.
While I almost always take notes during class with my fountain pen it's not something I really pour my mind into.

The only downside I see from this would be eager wait to receive a response.  :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 16 October 2015, 00:57:39
Having a pen pal would be cool but I have no idea how shipping between Canada and the States would affect postage.
It would be a great excuse to buy lots of new inks to show off though. And new pens.
Really I just need to justify my addiction with a use for it.
Shouldn't be too expensive to send just a letter between the US and Canada. I know it's expensive to ship packages, though. I sent a care package to my best friend in Canada and it cost me like $80 to send it last year. But a letter? I would imagine it's just a few bucks at most :)
Nice. It would definitely be cool to have a person to write to which would give purpose to my writing and a few dollars is of no expense to me.
Other than my journal entries -which I sometimes forget to write- I don't really get something meaningful to gear my fine writing towards.
While I almost always take notes during class with my fountain pen it's not something I really pour my mind into.

The only downside I see from this would be eager wait to receive a response.  :p
Send me a message and we can trade addresses and send letters :D I get some more ink tomorrow and wanna play with it haha.

Anyone getting the Diamine Shimmertastic inks? I got some samples of each to try. Only thing that sucks is only Goulet had them in.. and they have 2ml samples. I wish Anderson had them in, their 3ml samples for the same price as Goulet's is awesome.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:17:42
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:22:55
Having a pen pal would be cool but I have no idea how shipping between Canada and the States would affect postage.
It would be a great excuse to buy lots of new inks to show off though. And new pens.
Really I just need to justify my addiction with a use for it.

USPS Postage for First Class International Mail is $1.20. So it would cost Syribo $1.20 a stamp to mail a letter to you Frosty. This is what I pay to mail Tactile. I don't know Canadian Postage.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 16 October 2015, 12:41:53
Having a pen pal would be cool but I have no idea how shipping between Canada and the States would affect postage.
It would be a great excuse to buy lots of new inks to show off though. And new pens.
Really I just need to justify my addiction with a use for it.

USPS Postage for First Class International Mail is $1.20. So it would cost Syribo $1.20 a stamp to mail a letter to you Frosty. This is what I pay to mail Tactile. I don't know Canadian Postage.

Nice. I wouldn't know the cost either but I'm sure that the postage won't be too far off.
Fortunately the states is still on the same continent as Canada.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 16 October 2015, 13:38:33
I've always wanted a nice pen, but I don't think my handwriting is good enough to justify the purchase. Also, how do you not lose them! I take my pens with me everywhere and often forget them at meetings, or they're borrowed out (in some cases...they seem to simply vanish).

 I suspect paying hundreds of dollars for one might help in terms of keeping a close eye on it and making sure it never leaves it's proper place, but I would still be paranoid.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sat, 17 October 2015, 12:18:10
Ordered my first fountain pen tonight: TWSBI 580AL (purple). I can't wait for it to get here and try it out - you guys have got me thinking I need to give this fountain pen thing a try.
Even if I hate writing with it, that thing is just beautiful to keep around...

Hold the phone, where did you find a purple TWSBI 580AL?? I have a TWSBI Vac700 in Medium and a Pelikan M200 in Fine now. I absolutely adore both. Fountain pens are the way to go! I can't wait to grade papers with my fountain pens. I'll switch up colors every week or so to keep things interesting for my students too :D

I've always wanted a nice pen, but I don't think my handwriting is good enough to justify the purchase. Also, how do you not lose them! I take my pens with me everywhere and often forget them at meetings, or they're borrowed out (in some cases...they seem to simply vanish).

 I suspect paying hundreds of dollars for one might help in terms of keeping a close eye on it and making sure it never leaves it's proper place, but I would still be paranoid.

I'm really great at losing things, especially pens. I always place my fountain pens in the same spot. They're either in my pocket, my bag, or in my hand. I also don't have really good cursive script handwriting, but using a fountain pen has made it more enjoyable to practice, which has helped out my handwriting immensely. Even if you don't go with an expensive pen, they're still a good time! I'd recommend picking up a Pilot Metropolitan in either Medium or Fine and giving it a go. I bought some of those as my first pens (Massdrop two packs) and got hooked. Now I use a fountain pen as my daily driver.

Okay so who else wants to be pen pals? I've got CptBadAss's letter and ink samples ready to go out soon, and a letter to another friend, but now I need more! I'm up to like.. 8 pens and 60 sample vials of ink, and 9 full bottles, along with countless paper, notebooks and stationery. I need more people to write to to use it up haha.

I'd love to be pen pals! Any chance I get to use some ink and practice my script is a chance worth taking! My Bungbox inks should be here today. My TWSBI has been cleaned and emptied in preparation. Now I just need someone to write to with it ;).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Sat, 17 October 2015, 13:38:44
Ordered my first fountain pen tonight: TWSBI 580AL (purple). I can't wait for it to get here and try it out - you guys have got me thinking I need to give this fountain pen thing a try.
Even if I hate writing with it, that thing is just beautiful to keep around...

Hold the phone, where did you find a purple TWSBI 580AL?? I have a TWSBI Vac700 in Medium and a Pelikan M200 in Fine now. I absolutely adore both. Fountain pens are the way to go! I can't wait to grade papers with my fountain pens. I'll switch up colors every week or so to keep things interesting for my students too :D


I found it where I find most things: Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WL07DI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WL07DI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)). It is sold by TWSBI however, and is also available on their site.
I am a sucker for purple myself...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 17 October 2015, 20:49:28
Okay so who else wants to be pen pals? I've got CptBadAss's letter and ink samples ready to go out soon, and a letter to another friend, but now I need more! I'm up to like.. 8 pens and 60 sample vials of ink, and 9 full bottles, along with countless paper, notebooks and stationery. I need more people to write to to use it up haha.

I'd love to be pen pals! Any chance I get to use some ink and practice my script is a chance worth taking! My Bungbox inks should be here today. My TWSBI has been cleaned and emptied in preparation. Now I just need someone to write to with it ;).
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Message me your address and I'll send ya mine too :) The more letters the better, I have so many pens and inks and stationery.. I need to use it up haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 17 October 2015, 22:27:43
I just decided to order a pretty decent sized order from Goulet Pens.
Diamine Oxblood
De Atramentis Ferdinand von Zeppelin
2 A4 Rhodia dotpads
Goulet Pen Cleaning kit

Excited about the inks specifically.
The A4 dotpads will be used for letters since I'm not quite so sure that my A5 pages will be large enough. A single word in calligraphy would take up a fifth of the page alone  :))

@Syribo: I sent you a PM. Don't know if you caught it or not.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 17 October 2015, 23:10:37
I just decided to order a pretty decent sized order from Goulet Pens.
Diamine Oxblood
De Atramentis Ferdinand von Zeppelin
2 A4 Rhodia dotpads
Goulet Pen Cleaning kit

Excited about the inks specifically.
The A4 dotpads will be used for letters since I'm not quite so sure that my A5 pages will be large enough. A single word in calligraphy would take up a fifth of the page alone  :))

@Syribo: I sent you a PM. Don't know if you caught it or not.

I got it! I thought I replied, but I realized I only replied in the thread, not the message haha my brain feels fried lately!

I LOVE those Rhodia dot pads. I have the A4 one too, I use it for just random doodling, lettering, testing out pens. I have an A5 premimum Rhodia notepad that I haven't used yet, as well as an ~A6 sized graph Rhodia pad.. I freaking love Rhodia. For writing letters, I switch between using the Clairefontaine Triomphe stationery, and my favorite stationery... G Lalo <3 It's toothy, but it feels so nice and looks beautiful. I still am so thankful to the person who sent it to me :)

I just recently got a Jinhao x750, and a Goulet 1.1mm stub nib to replace the stock nib. I wanted to see how this Jinhao model would fair against my other more expensive pens and wow.. it's amazing, actually. The nib on it writes A LOT thicker and wetter than my 1.1 stub nib on my Lamy Vista, though. Really weird. I'll do a writing sample and take a picture, it's incredibly different.

I'm waiting on an Anderson and Goulet order.. with the new Diamine Shimmer inks in sample vials.. I am so excited to try them. I had to get another vial holder though, because the 50 vial holder I have is full LOL.

You know, I wonder how much it would cost to send a medium flat-rate USPS envelope to Canada.. I have samples of a few inks I'm sending to CptBadAss and I would love to send you some to try too, if you are interested in any of the colors I have in full bottles :) Like Emerald of Chivor, which I have been giving samples to some friends to try, because it's SO pretty!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 17 October 2015, 23:18:31
I just decided to order a pretty decent sized order from Goulet Pens.
Diamine Oxblood
De Atramentis Ferdinand von Zeppelin
2 A4 Rhodia dotpads
Goulet Pen Cleaning kit

Excited about the inks specifically.
The A4 dotpads will be used for letters since I'm not quite so sure that my A5 pages will be large enough. A single word in calligraphy would take up a fifth of the page alone  :))

@Syribo: I sent you a PM. Don't know if you caught it or not.

I got it! I thought I replied, but I realized I only replied in the thread, not the message haha my brain feels fried lately!

I LOVE those Rhodia dot pads. I have the A4 one too, I use it for just random doodling, lettering, testing out pens. I have an A5 premimum Rhodia notepad that I haven't used yet, as well as an ~A6 sized graph Rhodia pad.. I freaking love Rhodia. For writing letters, I switch between using the Clairefontaine Triomphe stationery, and my favorite stationery... G Lalo <3 It's toothy, but it feels so nice and looks beautiful. I still am so thankful to the person who sent it to me :)

I just recently got a Jinhao x750, and a Goulet 1.1mm stub nib to replace the stock nib. I wanted to see how this Jinhao model would fair against my other more expensive pens and wow.. it's amazing, actually. The nib on it writes A LOT thicker and wetter than my 1.1 stub nib on my Lamy Vista, though. Really weird. I'll do a writing sample and take a picture, it's incredibly different.

I'm waiting on an Anderson and Goulet order.. with the new Diamine Shimmer inks in sample vials.. I am so excited to try them. I had to get another vial holder though, because the 50 vial holder I have is full LOL.

You know, I wonder how much it would cost to send a medium flat-rate USPS envelope to Canada.. I have samples of a few inks I'm sending to CptBadAss and I would love to send you some to try too, if you are interested in any of the colors I have in full bottles :) Like Emerald of Chivor, which I have been giving samples to some friends to try, because it's SO pretty!

I can't get over how superficial I am. I have this weird vendetta against any and all Chinese pens.
I just see the Jinhao knockoffs and get turned off in a major way.

Rhodia is great. I like a little more feedback in my writing and Rhodia is already so smooth to me. The one issue I have is that no matter what paper you get it still warps from moisture.

Emerald of Chivor looks so absolutely gorgeous. If you send me a sample I will send my next letter using that ink. Probably with my flexy waterman too so that you can see the shading in full effect.
Shipping untracked shouldn't be insane. Tracking seems to be what jacks up the price for intl. shipping.
I'll send back whichever inks I have on me. An ink for an ink  ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 17 October 2015, 23:45:34
I just decided to order a pretty decent sized order from Goulet Pens.
Diamine Oxblood
De Atramentis Ferdinand von Zeppelin
2 A4 Rhodia dotpads
Goulet Pen Cleaning kit

Excited about the inks specifically.
The A4 dotpads will be used for letters since I'm not quite so sure that my A5 pages will be large enough. A single word in calligraphy would take up a fifth of the page alone  :))

@Syribo: I sent you a PM. Don't know if you caught it or not.

I got it! I thought I replied, but I realized I only replied in the thread, not the message haha my brain feels fried lately!

I LOVE those Rhodia dot pads. I have the A4 one too, I use it for just random doodling, lettering, testing out pens. I have an A5 premimum Rhodia notepad that I haven't used yet, as well as an ~A6 sized graph Rhodia pad.. I freaking love Rhodia. For writing letters, I switch between using the Clairefontaine Triomphe stationery, and my favorite stationery... G Lalo <3 It's toothy, but it feels so nice and looks beautiful. I still am so thankful to the person who sent it to me :)

I just recently got a Jinhao x750, and a Goulet 1.1mm stub nib to replace the stock nib. I wanted to see how this Jinhao model would fair against my other more expensive pens and wow.. it's amazing, actually. The nib on it writes A LOT thicker and wetter than my 1.1 stub nib on my Lamy Vista, though. Really weird. I'll do a writing sample and take a picture, it's incredibly different.

I'm waiting on an Anderson and Goulet order.. with the new Diamine Shimmer inks in sample vials.. I am so excited to try them. I had to get another vial holder though, because the 50 vial holder I have is full LOL.

You know, I wonder how much it would cost to send a medium flat-rate USPS envelope to Canada.. I have samples of a few inks I'm sending to CptBadAss and I would love to send you some to try too, if you are interested in any of the colors I have in full bottles :) Like Emerald of Chivor, which I have been giving samples to some friends to try, because it's SO pretty!

I can't get over how superficial I am. I have this weird vendetta against any and all Chinese pens.
I just see the Jinhao knockoffs and get turned off in a major way.

Rhodia is great. I like a little more feedback in my writing and Rhodia is already so smooth to me. The one issue I have is that no matter what paper you get it still warps from moisture.

Emerald of Chivor looks so absolutely gorgeous. If you send me a sample I will send my next letter using that ink. Probably with my flexy waterman too so that you can see the shading in full effect.
Shipping untracked shouldn't be insane. Tracking seems to be what jacks up the price for intl. shipping.
I'll send back whichever inks I have on me. An ink for an ink  ;D

Haha sounds like a deal! I was originally against getting a Jinhao because I figured they HAD to be crappy, as they're so cheap.. and knockoffs.. but.. Honestly? This pen feels amazing haha. I can't believe how smooth it writes. I think it's mainly because of the Goulet nib I put on it. I also have a Jinhao 159 and while it writes really smooth, it runs kinda dry? I'm not sure how to explain it. It writes very light with a lot of inks. But it has the stock nib on it. Though the stock nib actually has a decent amount of flex to it, which I was surprised at. I may switch it out with another stub nib sometime.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sun, 18 October 2015, 08:49:34
Ordered my first fountain pen tonight: TWSBI 580AL (purple). I can't wait for it to get here and try it out - you guys have got me thinking I need to give this fountain pen thing a try.
Even if I hate writing with it, that thing is just beautiful to keep around...

Hold the phone, where did you find a purple TWSBI 580AL?? I have a TWSBI Vac700 in Medium and a Pelikan M200 in Fine now. I absolutely adore both. Fountain pens are the way to go! I can't wait to grade papers with my fountain pens. I'll switch up colors every week or so to keep things interesting for my students too :D


I found it where I find most things: Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WL07DI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WL07DI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)). It is sold by TWSBI however, and is also available on their site.
I am a sucker for purple myself...

Interesting. I suppose it's been a while since I've looked into getting another pen. That pen looks great! I'm a sucker for a nice deep purple. I want to keep all my pens demonstrators too. I just love the functionality of seeing the ink. Let us know how it writes and performs!

EDIT: I wanted to share this, without a double post. I'm really happy with this pick up! I started the Bungbox poll on Massdrop that eventually made it to a group buy! I had the inks shipped to my home in case they took a while to arrive and I wasn't at my college address anymore. Well, they arrived several weeks back. My mom told me I had a Massdrop package and I knew immediately what they were, but unfortunately I wouldn't be able to write with them for quite some time. I don't have a chance to go home for a couple months, and my parents wouldn't be down here - at least I thought at the time. Well, they were able to make it down, and I requested they bring my box. I was not disappointed! Although I haven't inked up the Norwegian Wood ink yet, the Ink of the Witch is gorgeous. It makes me want to get a broad nibbed pen and do some fancy lettering. Fantastic shading, with a dark, rich purple color showing through once it dries. I love it.

(http://i.imgur.com/1GXCWaQ.jpg)
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sun, 18 October 2015, 17:43:32
Ordered my first fountain pen tonight: TWSBI 580AL (purple). I can't wait for it to get here and try it out - you guys have got me thinking I need to give this fountain pen thing a try.
Even if I hate writing with it, that thing is just beautiful to keep around...

Hold the phone, where did you find a purple TWSBI 580AL?? I have a TWSBI Vac700 in Medium and a Pelikan M200 in Fine now. I absolutely adore both. Fountain pens are the way to go! I can't wait to grade papers with my fountain pens. I'll switch up colors every week or so to keep things interesting for my students too :D


I found it where I find most things: Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WL07DI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WL07DI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)). It is sold by TWSBI however, and is also available on their site.
I am a sucker for purple myself...

Interesting. I suppose it's been a while since I've looked into getting another pen. That pen looks great! I'm a sucker for a nice deep purple. I want to keep all my pens demonstrators too. I just love the functionality of seeing the ink. Let us know how it writes and performs!

EDIT: I wanted to share this, without a double post. I'm really happy with this pick up! I started the Bungbox poll on Massdrop that eventually made it to a group buy! I had the inks shipped to my home in case they took a while to arrive and I wasn't at my college address anymore. Well, they arrived several weeks back. My mom told me I had a Massdrop package and I knew immediately what they were, but unfortunately I wouldn't be able to write with them for quite some time. I don't have a chance to go home for a couple months, and my parents wouldn't be down here - at least I thought at the time. Well, they were able to make it down, and I requested they bring my box. I was not disappointed! Although I haven't inked up the Norwegian Wood ink yet, the Ink of the Witch is gorgeous. It makes me want to get a broad nibbed pen and do some fancy lettering. Fantastic shading, with a dark, rich purple color showing through once it dries. I love it.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1GXCWaQ.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/MLYHPnI.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/5i8dRMg.jpg)

Oh my Goddd.. I want to try the BungBox inks soooo bad. I wish someone sold samples of them, because all I can ever find is full bottles that cost like $40 lol. Ink of the Witch is on my must try list of inks gaaaah.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:52:42
Does a fountain pen give much signs that it is about to run out of ink?

My first one is a disposable, and the reservoir appears empty, but it is still writing well.

Do they sputter or fade for a while, or just stop?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 18 October 2015, 21:03:02
Does a fountain pen give much signs that it is about to run out of ink?

My first one is a disposable, and the reservoir appears empty, but it is still writing well.

Do they sputter or fade for a while, or just stop?

Thanks :)

The ink may have hard starts.
The ink will also slowly run drier as it gets harder for the feed to gather more ink.
Lines that you make while using a dry pen will be much lighter and very noticeable.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 October 2015, 21:10:24
Does a fountain pen give much signs that it is about to run out of ink?

My first one is a disposable, and the reservoir appears empty, but it is still writing well.

Do they sputter or fade for a while, or just stop?

Thanks :)

The ink may have hard starts.
The ink will also slowly run drier as it gets harder for the feed to gather more ink.
Lines that you make while using a dry pen will be much lighter and very noticeable.

So far it looks about the same as it did a couple of months ago.

Looking back through my notebooks at work, I started using this pen on 07-May-2015, so it's lasted just over 5 months.  Not bad for a $6 disposable Pilot :)

Edit: Update - it just ran out.  Lasted 5 months 12 days.  It just stopped writing in the middle of an '8'.

Backup fountain pen (the second of the pair) has been deployed.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 18 October 2015, 23:47:18
Does a fountain pen give much signs that it is about to run out of ink?

My first one is a disposable, and the reservoir appears empty, but it is still writing well.

Do they sputter or fade for a while, or just stop?

Thanks :)

The ink may have hard starts.
The ink will also slowly run drier as it gets harder for the feed to gather more ink.
Lines that you make while using a dry pen will be much lighter and very noticeable.

So far it looks about the same as it did a couple of months ago.

Looking back through my notebooks at work, I started using this pen on 07-May-2015, so it's lasted just over 5 months.  Not bad for a $6 disposable Pilot :)

Edit: Update - it just ran out.  Lasted 5 months 12 days.  It just stopped writing in the middle of an '8'.

Backup fountain pen (the second of the pair) has been deployed.

Have you done a quick dip in a glass of water?
Sometimes you can further the life of a pen by doing so.

Also, I got this beauty in the mail on Friday.
Potato:
(http://i.imgur.com/B0bdZJQ.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 19 October 2015, 01:03:05
Does a fountain pen give much signs that it is about to run out of ink?

My first one is a disposable, and the reservoir appears empty, but it is still writing well.

Do they sputter or fade for a while, or just stop?

Thanks :)

The ink may have hard starts.
The ink will also slowly run drier as it gets harder for the feed to gather more ink.
Lines that you make while using a dry pen will be much lighter and very noticeable.

So far it looks about the same as it did a couple of months ago.

Looking back through my notebooks at work, I started using this pen on 07-May-2015, so it's lasted just over 5 months.  Not bad for a $6 disposable Pilot :)

Edit: Update - it just ran out.  Lasted 5 months 12 days.  It just stopped writing in the middle of an '8'.

Backup fountain pen (the second of the pair) has been deployed.

Have you done a quick dip in a glass of water?
Sometimes you can further the life of a pen by doing so.

Also, I got this beauty in the mail on Friday.
Potato:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/B0bdZJQ.jpg?1)

Gaaaaaaah I want a Visconti!!! I still have the Visconti Venus Marbled Rose fountain pen sooo bad.  One daaaay.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 19 October 2015, 01:59:26
Gaaaaaaah I want a Visconti!!! I still have the Visconti Venus Marbled Rose fountain pen sooo bad.  One daaaay.

Would it help you to resist by saying that Visconti nibs are terrible performers?
I know that Binge has issues with them and I found that my nib requires actual pressure to write.
The tines need to be spread with pressure since they are too close at the tip; too much pressure to be comfortable. This makes for a quite fatiguing writing experience and is not enjoyable.
When I write with the pen I don't necessarily notice the pressure I am using to write. But then I switch to my other pens and it feels heavenly by comparison.
Fortunately they did a decent job with the tipping on tubular nibs.

Although to be fair, that same pen is on my wishlist too.
I have a huge weak spot when it comes to rose gold.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Mon, 19 October 2015, 04:22:04
Italian pens, like Italians themselves, are unpredictable.

Looking back through my notebooks at work, I started using this pen on 07-May-2015, so it's lasted just over 5 months.  Not bad for a $6 disposable Pilot :)
Pilot VPens hold quite a bit of ink. Also the finer the nib, the less is ink consumption.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 October 2015, 04:40:14
Have you done a quick dip in a glass of water?
Sometimes you can further the life of a pen by doing so.

Pilot VPens hold quite a bit of ink. Also the finer the nib, the less is ink consumption.

No, I'm, not really that bothered about it for a $6 disposable.  It did far better than I was expecting, and lasted much longer.

I have another disposable Pilot (it was a two pack), and two Pilot Metropolitans :)

Plus there are a few of those Pilot Varsity packs left on Massdrop, tempting ...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 19 October 2015, 07:47:05
Interesting. I suppose it's been a while since I've looked into getting another pen. That pen looks great! I'm a sucker for a nice deep purple. I want to keep all my pens demonstrators too. I just love the functionality of seeing the ink. Let us know how it writes and performs!

EDIT: I wanted to share this, without a double post. I'm really happy with this pick up! I started the Bungbox poll on Massdrop that eventually made it to a group buy! I had the inks shipped to my home in case they took a while to arrive and I wasn't at my college address anymore. Well, they arrived several weeks back. My mom told me I had a Massdrop package and I knew immediately what they were, but unfortunately I wouldn't be able to write with them for quite some time. I don't have a chance to go home for a couple months, and my parents wouldn't be down here - at least I thought at the time. Well, they were able to make it down, and I requested they bring my box. I was not disappointed! Although I haven't inked up the Norwegian Wood ink yet, the Ink of the Witch is gorgeous. It makes me want to get a broad nibbed pen and do some fancy lettering. Fantastic shading, with a dark, rich purple color showing through once it dries. I love it.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1GXCWaQ.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MLYHPnI.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5i8dRMg.jpg)

Oh my Goddd.. I want to try the BungBox inks soooo bad. I wish someone sold samples of them, because all I can ever find is full bottles that cost like $40 lol. Ink of the Witch is on my must try list of inks gaaaah.

Oh, I definitely recommend BungBox now that I've finally inked up and tried one! It's difficult, since you have to translate and navigate their website. Waiting for group buys is the best way IMO. Either way, you kind of have to dive headfirst and buy a full bottle. I was just happy we could get Massdrop to do a drop. Ink of the Witch is a great ink. I seriously love it. BungBox had a special edition pink as well, but Massdrop wasn't able to offer it (I think it was limited to 100 bottles worldwide).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Mon, 19 October 2015, 09:53:41
Interesting. I suppose it's been a while since I've looked into getting another pen. That pen looks great! I'm a sucker for a nice deep purple. I want to keep all my pens demonstrators too. I just love the functionality of seeing the ink. Let us know how it writes and performs!

EDIT: I wanted to share this, without a double post. I'm really happy with this pick up! I started the Bungbox poll on Massdrop that eventually made it to a group buy! I had the inks shipped to my home in case they took a while to arrive and I wasn't at my college address anymore. Well, they arrived several weeks back. My mom told me I had a Massdrop package and I knew immediately what they were, but unfortunately I wouldn't be able to write with them for quite some time. I don't have a chance to go home for a couple months, and my parents wouldn't be down here - at least I thought at the time. Well, they were able to make it down, and I requested they bring my box. I was not disappointed! Although I haven't inked up the Norwegian Wood ink yet, the Ink of the Witch is gorgeous. It makes me want to get a broad nibbed pen and do some fancy lettering. Fantastic shading, with a dark, rich purple color showing through once it dries. I love it.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1GXCWaQ.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MLYHPnI.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5i8dRMg.jpg)

Oh my Goddd.. I want to try the BungBox inks soooo bad. I wish someone sold samples of them, because all I can ever find is full bottles that cost like $40 lol. Ink of the Witch is on my must try list of inks gaaaah.

Oh, I definitely recommend BungBox now that I've finally inked up and tried one! It's difficult, since you have to translate and navigate their website. Waiting for group buys is the best way IMO. Either way, you kind of have to dive headfirst and buy a full bottle. I was just happy we could get Massdrop to do a drop. Ink of the Witch is a great ink. I seriously love it. BungBox had a special edition pink as well, but Massdrop wasn't able to offer it (I think it was limited to 100 bottles worldwide).

Ink of the Witch is beautiful. I requested a redrop on MassDrop (it's at 224 now), so hopefully it will eventually come back. Do you happen to remember how much it sold for last time?
My first bottle of ink also arrived this morning: Emerald of Chivor (J. Herbin 1670). I am impatiently awaiting the arrival of my pen tomorrow (according to the tracking).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 19 October 2015, 11:08:00
Interesting. I suppose it's been a while since I've looked into getting another pen. That pen looks great! I'm a sucker for a nice deep purple. I want to keep all my pens demonstrators too. I just love the functionality of seeing the ink. Let us know how it writes and performs!

EDIT: I wanted to share this, without a double post. I'm really happy with this pick up! I started the Bungbox poll on Massdrop that eventually made it to a group buy! I had the inks shipped to my home in case they took a while to arrive and I wasn't at my college address anymore. Well, they arrived several weeks back. My mom told me I had a Massdrop package and I knew immediately what they were, but unfortunately I wouldn't be able to write with them for quite some time. I don't have a chance to go home for a couple months, and my parents wouldn't be down here - at least I thought at the time. Well, they were able to make it down, and I requested they bring my box. I was not disappointed! Although I haven't inked up the Norwegian Wood ink yet, the Ink of the Witch is gorgeous. It makes me want to get a broad nibbed pen and do some fancy lettering. Fantastic shading, with a dark, rich purple color showing through once it dries. I love it.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1GXCWaQ.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MLYHPnI.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5i8dRMg.jpg)

Oh my Goddd.. I want to try the BungBox inks soooo bad. I wish someone sold samples of them, because all I can ever find is full bottles that cost like $40 lol. Ink of the Witch is on my must try list of inks gaaaah.

Oh, I definitely recommend BungBox now that I've finally inked up and tried one! It's difficult, since you have to translate and navigate their website. Waiting for group buys is the best way IMO. Either way, you kind of have to dive headfirst and buy a full bottle. I was just happy we could get Massdrop to do a drop. Ink of the Witch is a great ink. I seriously love it. BungBox had a special edition pink as well, but Massdrop wasn't able to offer it (I think it was limited to 100 bottles worldwide).

Ink of the Witch is beautiful. I requested a redrop on MassDrop (it's at 224 now), so hopefully it will eventually come back. Do you happen to remember how much it sold for last time?
My first bottle of ink also arrived this morning: Emerald of Chivor (J. Herbin 1670). I am impatiently awaiting the arrival of my pen tomorrow (according to the tracking).

Isn't that a glittery ink? What pen and nib size will you be using it in? I have Stormy Grey. That Emerald of Chivor is droll worthy. I want a bottle so bad.

I believe Massdrop sold 2 bottles of BungBox ink for ~$71 + shipping. Since they already did the sell once, I definitely see it being a returning item. I'd request a redrop if it, but I don't have any cash to participate right now (otherwise, I really want a bottle of their Sapphire ink).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Mon, 19 October 2015, 12:27:32
Interesting. I suppose it's been a while since I've looked into getting another pen. That pen looks great! I'm a sucker for a nice deep purple. I want to keep all my pens demonstrators too. I just love the functionality of seeing the ink. Let us know how it writes and performs!

EDIT: I wanted to share this, without a double post. I'm really happy with this pick up! I started the Bungbox poll on Massdrop that eventually made it to a group buy! I had the inks shipped to my home in case they took a while to arrive and I wasn't at my college address anymore. Well, they arrived several weeks back. My mom told me I had a Massdrop package and I knew immediately what they were, but unfortunately I wouldn't be able to write with them for quite some time. I don't have a chance to go home for a couple months, and my parents wouldn't be down here - at least I thought at the time. Well, they were able to make it down, and I requested they bring my box. I was not disappointed! Although I haven't inked up the Norwegian Wood ink yet, the Ink of the Witch is gorgeous. It makes me want to get a broad nibbed pen and do some fancy lettering. Fantastic shading, with a dark, rich purple color showing through once it dries. I love it.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1GXCWaQ.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MLYHPnI.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5i8dRMg.jpg)

Oh my Goddd.. I want to try the BungBox inks soooo bad. I wish someone sold samples of them, because all I can ever find is full bottles that cost like $40 lol. Ink of the Witch is on my must try list of inks gaaaah.

Oh, I definitely recommend BungBox now that I've finally inked up and tried one! It's difficult, since you have to translate and navigate their website. Waiting for group buys is the best way IMO. Either way, you kind of have to dive headfirst and buy a full bottle. I was just happy we could get Massdrop to do a drop. Ink of the Witch is a great ink. I seriously love it. BungBox had a special edition pink as well, but Massdrop wasn't able to offer it (I think it was limited to 100 bottles worldwide).

Ink of the Witch is beautiful. I requested a redrop on MassDrop (it's at 224 now), so hopefully it will eventually come back. Do you happen to remember how much it sold for last time?
My first bottle of ink also arrived this morning: Emerald of Chivor (J. Herbin 1670). I am impatiently awaiting the arrival of my pen tomorrow (according to the tracking).

Isn't that a glittery ink? What pen and nib size will you be using it in? I have Stormy Grey. That Emerald of Chivor is droll worthy. I want a bottle so bad.

I believe Massdrop sold 2 bottles of BungBox ink for ~$71 + shipping. Since they already did the sell once, I definitely see it being a returning item. I'd request a redrop if it, but I don't have any cash to participate right now (otherwise, I really want a bottle of their Sapphire ink).

Should be a glittery ink - green with gold flecks. I am using it in the 580al I mentioned earlier with an extra-fine nib. I have a tendency to write small and, this being my first fountain pen, thought that would be the best choice - even if it doesn't allow the ink to really "show off". I have considered ordering a 1.1 stub from TWSBI to try out, but figured I would see how the extra-fine goes first.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 19 October 2015, 14:40:26
Isn't that a glittery ink? What pen and nib size will you be using it in? I have Stormy Grey. That Emerald of Chivor is droll worthy. I want a bottle so bad.

I believe Massdrop sold 2 bottles of BungBox ink for ~$71 + shipping. Since they already did the sell once, I definitely see it being a returning item. I'd request a redrop if it, but I don't have any cash to participate right now (otherwise, I really want a bottle of their Sapphire ink).

Should be a glittery ink - green with gold flecks. I am using it in the 580al I mentioned earlier with an extra-fine nib. I have a tendency to write small and, this being my first fountain pen, thought that would be the best choice - even if it doesn't allow the ink to really "show off". I have considered ordering a 1.1 stub from TWSBI to try out, but figured I would see how the extra-fine goes first.

I was going to suggest a wide nib for that ink. I used a Pilot Metro in medium for my stormy grey and it didn't shine as well as it could. So I mention the nib size for that reason, as well as, some people have had an issue with the feeding system clogging from the gold flakes. That was the reason I decided to only ink up a Pilot Metro with my stormy grey. It shouldn't be terrible. It should just be something you're aware of so as not to leave your pen sitting nib side down for a long time and have the gold flakes settle in the feeding system. Nevertheless, that pen and ink should be spectacular!

I've highly considered the 580AL, but I think I'm more after a Pilot Heritage 92 Demonstrator of a Pelikan M805 Demonstrator. I'm leaning the Pilot's direction for now.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Mon, 19 October 2015, 15:56:59

I was going to suggest a wide nib for that ink.


Well, you've convinced me. I found a site (from Singapore - so there will be a wait) that seems to carry the 1.5mm Stub for the 580 and I am looking into placing an order (I placed it, but the site says they will email later to confirm payment/shipping); if that falls through for some reason I will go for a 1.1mm Stub since I can't seem to find any other sites selling the 1.5.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 19 October 2015, 18:34:03
Definitely use the Emerald of Chivor in a medium nib if you can. I've used it in every nib of mine, but it really was meh in a fine nib. It's GORGEOUS in a 1.1mm stub nib. Can actually see all the gold flecks and sheen. BTW, that's one ink you definitely want to shake up the bottle before you fill your pen. My first time using it, I didn't shake the bottle and my pen only wrote in the main base color.. no gold, no sheen. So I have to shake it up a ton beforehand.

My two packages just got here today yay! Diamine shimmer inks :D I'm about to mess with them, so excited to see how they are!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 19 October 2015, 18:36:29

I was going to suggest a wide nib for that ink.


Well, you've convinced me. I found a site (from Singapore - so there will be a wait) that seems to carry the 1.5mm Stub for the 580 and I am looking into placing an order (I placed it, but the site says they will email later to confirm payment/shipping); if that falls through for some reason I will go for a 1.1mm Stub since I can't seem to find any other sites selling the 1.5.

i would recommend swapping out with one of Goulet nibs..................

TWSBI nibs are friction fit and will pull out with a good tug

i have a few of their nibs and they are very smooth :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 October 2015, 18:42:47
I like the Eco so far since it's a really cool pen, but the nib feels worse than my Pilot Metro nib and Lamy Safari even though it cost 50% more than each of those pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Mon, 19 October 2015, 18:52:10
Definitely use the Emerald of Chivor in a medium nib if you can. I've used it in every nib of mine, but it really was meh in a fine nib. It's GORGEOUS in a 1.1mm stub nib. Can actually see all the gold flecks and sheen. BTW, that's one ink you definitely want to shake up the bottle before you fill your pen. My first time using it, I didn't shake the bottle and my pen only wrote in the main base color.. no gold, no sheen. So I have to shake it up a ton beforehand.

My two packages just got here today yay! Diamine shimmer inks :D I'm about to mess with them, so excited to see how they are!

Which colors did you go for? I want to try the purple pizzazz myself. My mother-in-law went to the UK to visit her daughter (Birmingham I believe) and I asked her to keep an eye out; thought they may be easier to find there.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Mon, 19 October 2015, 18:56:15

I was going to suggest a wide nib for that ink.


Well, you've convinced me. I found a site (from Singapore - so there will be a wait) that seems to carry the 1.5mm Stub for the 580 and I am looking into placing an order (I placed it, but the site says they will email later to confirm payment/shipping); if that falls through for some reason I will go for a 1.1mm Stub since I can't seem to find any other sites selling the 1.5.

i would recommend swapping out with one of Goulet nibs..................

TWSBI nibs are friction fit and will pull out with a good tug

i have a few of their nibs and they are very smooth :cool:

Thanks for the heads-up. If this order falls through, or if I decide to try another size, I will certainly keep this in mind.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 19 October 2015, 19:03:39
I like the Eco so far since it's a really cool pen, but the nib feels worse than my Pilot Metro nib and Lamy Safari even though it cost 50% more than each of those pens.

I hate it when that happens.  Pilot makes some damn fine pen nibs as does lamy on their budget stuff.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 19 October 2015, 19:07:20
I hardly write anything since getting a new job that doesn't involve taking messages or writing addresses on envelopes so as my pens break I just set them aside rather than getting them fixed.  The third and final one is nearly snapped where the section joins the body - it's surprisingly comfortable to use but can't last much longer!

My writing was never good but it's definitely getting worse, does anyone want a really long distance penpal so I have a reason to fix my pens and retain what's left of my writing's legibility?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 19 October 2015, 19:32:27

I was going to suggest a wide nib for that ink.


Well, you've convinced me. I found a site (from Singapore - so there will be a wait) that seems to carry the 1.5mm Stub for the 580 and I am looking into placing an order (I placed it, but the site says they will email later to confirm payment/shipping); if that falls through for some reason I will go for a 1.1mm Stub since I can't seem to find any other sites selling the 1.5.

i would recommend swapping out with one of Goulet nibs..................

TWSBI nibs are friction fit and will pull out with a good tug

i have a few of their nibs and they are very smooth :cool:

+1 to Goulet nibs. I think (don't quote me on this) that the TWSBI uses a size 6 nib. I was playing with the idea of ordering a stub and an extra fine nib to play around with my Vac700 and decide which size I'd get in my next pen (leaning extra fine for the Pilot. I need to write small numbers at my work). Plus, the stub would be more fun with my stormy grey.

Size 6 nibs might be the Vac700 size.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 19 October 2015, 20:07:13
+1 to Goulet nibs. I think (don't quote me on this) that the TWSBI uses a size 6 nib. I was playing with the idea of ordering a stub and an extra fine nib to play around with my Vac700 and decide which size I'd get in my next pen (leaning extra fine for the Pilot. I need to write small numbers at my work). Plus, the stub would be more fun with my stormy grey.

Size 6 nibs might be the Vac700 size.
Vac700 uses #6 nibs, 580 uses #5 nibs. Don't know about the Eco.

And I love my broad & 1.5mm Goulet nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 19 October 2015, 20:37:27
http://www.fountainpenrevolution.com/nibs.html

(http://i.imgur.com/7INu3Tn.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Mon, 19 October 2015, 21:25:03
The Eco uses the same nib as the Mini and Classic, which is still a #5, but the nib is smaller and shorter than the #5 found in the 580. Goulet has said that their own nibs cannot be swapped into the Eco.

http://blog.gouletpens.com/2015/07/answering-your-twsbi-eco-questions.html

Imo, check if the nib tines are aligned and perhaps consider tuning it yourself.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Tue, 20 October 2015, 02:34:40
Definitely use the Emerald of Chivor in a medium nib if you can. I've used it in every nib of mine, but it really was meh in a fine nib. It's GORGEOUS in a 1.1mm stub nib. Can actually see all the gold flecks and sheen. BTW, that's one ink you definitely want to shake up the bottle before you fill your pen. My first time using it, I didn't shake the bottle and my pen only wrote in the main base color.. no gold, no sheen. So I have to shake it up a ton beforehand.

My two packages just got here today yay! Diamine shimmer inks :D I'm about to mess with them, so excited to see how they are!

Which colors did you go for? I want to try the purple pizzazz myself. My mother-in-law went to the UK to visit her daughter (Birmingham I believe) and I asked her to keep an eye out; thought they may be easier to find there.
I actually bought a sample bottle of all of the new ones. Just tried out Purple Pazzazz, really gorgeous.. a TON of gold sheen to it, wow! I'm trying them all out in my stub nibs and flex nib. Blue Lightning I put in my Ahab flex, sooo gorgeous too.. but it takes forever to dry because that pen writes so wet, and for some reason that makes it write even wetter.

Next I'm gonna try Red Lustre.

I'm having a real strange issue though.. I even emailed Goulet about it. I know that nibs vary  a lot, and there's no way EVERY nib can be exactly the same as another. However... the difference between these two is pretty astounding.
(http://i.imgur.com/8tC5W9a.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Kdezji8.jpg)
On the left is my Lamy Vista with a Lamy 1.1mm stub nib I got from Anderson recently. LOVE it. So I decided to get a pink Safari with a 1.1mm stub nib, I love that pink Safari.. so I did. On the right is my Safari I got today, from Goulet. They're both supposed to be 1.1mm but.. you can clearly see the one on the right is WAY wider. Not even just a tiny bit, but a marginal amount. It's nothing like my Vista, and it's a little too wide for my tastes so I was bummed.

Someone in a FP group posted a picture of their two Safari's side by side.. a 1.1mm nib and a 1.5mm nib, check them out:
(http://i.imgur.com/LEwjkLP.jpg)

They look EXACTLY like my two. I'm pretty sure my Safari's nib is mislabeled as a 1.1mm, but it's actually 1.5mm. Lamy must have messed up with the labeling on it. I emailed Goulet about it to see if it's normal or if there's anything I should do. It's just so damn wide :( The Vista's nib is perfect.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 20 October 2015, 03:48:02
That is some lovely hand writing Syribo!!!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 20 October 2015, 05:06:25

I was going to suggest a wide nib for that ink.


Well, you've convinced me. I found a site (from Singapore - so there will be a wait) that seems to carry the 1.5mm Stub for the 580 and I am looking into placing an order (I placed it, but the site says they will email later to confirm payment/shipping); if that falls through for some reason I will go for a 1.1mm Stub since I can't seem to find any other sites selling the 1.5.

I'm guessing Straitspens?

If you're based in the US, you could consider getting nibs from franklin-christoph. Their #5 nibs (1.1 and 1.4mm stubs) will fit a 580 (tested; I'm using one of their nibs in a TWSBI right now) and their #6 nibs should fit a VAC700 (1.1, 1.5 and a 1.9 music nib). Their nibs are interchangeable if you pull it out from their unit, but if you're planning to swap the entire nib unit into a TWSBI, there's a slight length difference that can be corrected with a small O-ring.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 20 October 2015, 05:53:19
I bought Platinum Plaisir. The nib is great, the body is too slippery.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Tue, 20 October 2015, 06:10:57

I was going to suggest a wide nib for that ink.


Well, you've convinced me. I found a site (from Singapore - so there will be a wait) that seems to carry the 1.5mm Stub for the 580 and I am looking into placing an order (I placed it, but the site says they will email later to confirm payment/shipping); if that falls through for some reason I will go for a 1.1mm Stub since I can't seem to find any other sites selling the 1.5.

I'm guessing Straitspens?

If you're based in the US, you could consider getting nibs from franklin-christoph. Their #5 nibs (1.1 and 1.4mm stubs) will fit a 580 (tested; I'm using one of their nibs in a TWSBI right now) and their #6 nibs should fit a VAC700 (1.1, 1.5 and a 1.9 music nib). Their nibs are interchangeable if you pull it out from their unit, but if you're planning to swap the entire nib unit into a TWSBI, there's a slight length difference that can be corrected with a small O-ring.

It was going to be from overjoyed.com.sg, but with shipping (almost bought another bottle of ink to get free shipping) plus delivery time, I decided to try a Franklin-Christoph like you mentioned. I figured this way, along with experiencing a different size nib, I would get to experience a different brand as well - try a few things out before eventually buying another pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 20 October 2015, 07:30:50
It was going to be from overjoyed.com.sg, but with shipping (almost bought another bottle of ink to get free shipping) plus delivery time, I decided to try a Franklin-Christoph like you mentioned. I figured this way, along with experiencing a different size nib, I would get to experience a different brand as well - try a few things out before eventually buying another pen.
ah, I see. Not the best place to buy from if you're not in Singapore.

Franklin-Christoph and TWSBI uses the same manufacturer for nibs (JoWo). Afaik, they're just nibs with different imprints.

Here's a picture of said TWSBI with the entire FC nib unit. You can see an extra black line between the metal collar and the pen body itself; that's the O-Ring I had to add, as without it, there was some play between the collar and the rest of the pen.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/615/22317357362_d037a2e62e_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Tue, 20 October 2015, 14:22:55
Here's a picture of said TWSBI with the entire FC nib unit. You can see an extra black line between the metal collar and the pen body itself; that's the O-Ring I had to add, as without it, there was some play between the collar and the rest of the pen.

Any idea what size o-ring you had to use? If not, I am sure I can figure it out. I am assuming it won't be difficult to figure out how to position the o-ring onto the nib set when I go to try it out?
Thank you again for all the help/advice.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 20 October 2015, 21:26:15
I used o-rings I already had from keyboard mods in the past. Forgot what size they were, but they weren't a perfect fit (its stretched slightly around the barrel end, so something slightly bigger might be better; though screwing the pen cap on with a bigger o-ring might be a problem, so I'd stick with the keycap mod size). Not hard to figure out where it goes, so no worries.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 21 October 2015, 00:11:08
GUYS!! Very important, hope some people see the in time.
http://www.isellpens.com/Ink-Sample-s/1860.htm?searching=Y&sort=1&cat=1860&show=100&page=1

Isellpens.com is having a sale on ink samples big time. 25 to 50 cents for 3ml of ink. Various companies. There's more for 75 cents too. I literally bought thirty samples all for $19 shipped. $19 for thirty 3ml vials of ink! Crazy! Some are sold out, it will tell you when you try to add to cart, but I got almost everyone I wanted. Hurry up!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Wed, 21 October 2015, 08:43:25
GUYS!! Very important, hope some people see the in time.
http://www.isellpens.com/Ink-Sample-s/1860.htm?searching=Y&sort=1&cat=1860&show=100&page=1

Isellpens.com is having a sale on ink samples big time. 25 to 50 cents for 3ml of ink. Various companies. There's more for 75 cents too. I literally bought thirty samples all for $19 shipped. $19 for thirty 3ml vials of ink! Crazy! Some are sold out, it will tell you when you try to add to cart, but I got almost everyone I wanted. Hurry up!

Dang!! I'm headed to class right now. Hopefully some good stuff is still up in two hours.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Wed, 21 October 2015, 12:56:54
Tracking was wrong, the pen came today instead.
(http://i.imgur.com/7cJaK7z.jpg)

When I was writing, two drops plopped onto the paper, but  that all... hopefully it won't be a continuing problem.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 21 October 2015, 14:37:50
May I ask why you capitalize every word? It's an odd choice.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Wed, 21 October 2015, 14:50:18
May I ask why you capitalize every word? It's an odd choice.

I honestly couldn't tell you. I have been doing it since elementary school and it just looks "right" to me at this point...
Maybe since I have a tendency to write on the smaller side, it allows me to easily distinguish separate words?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 21 October 2015, 16:13:54
Thanks for the heads up on this ink sale Syribo.

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 21 October 2015, 17:01:48
Thanks for the heads up on this ink sale Syribo.

(Attachment Link)
ohh another penpal. I will message you too :) Have about three others from here too, loving this so far :D

So I may have gone overboard with that ink sample sale from Isellpens... I may or may not have gotten like 30 samples.. then went back and got 30 more samples.... I couldn't help it! 50 cents for 3ml of Noodlers, Diamine, etc.. I COULD NOT RESIST!! Plus, I love samples more than full bottles. I like having a ton of different colors :)

I got myself my first vintage pen. An Esterbrook I got from eBay. I wasn't going to get one at all, but I saw this one had a 9788 nib, flexible medium, and usually that nib sells for as much alone as the pen and nib together did. It should be in perfect shape and writing condition. Should get it in a few days.

Also, hopefully Goulet will send me a replacement 1.1mm Lamy stub nib. I measured out my first Lamy nib, and the new one.. the new one is DEFINITELY bigger than 1.1mm. So it must have been mislabeled as a 1.1, but is actually a 1.5. Man I have bad luck with random crap like that lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 21 October 2015, 18:29:47
Thanks for the heads up on this ink sale Syribo.

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ohh another penpal. I will message you too :) Have about three others from here too, loving this so far :D

So I may have gone overboard with that ink sample sale from Isellpens... I may or may not have gotten like 30 samples.. then went back and got 30 more samples.... I couldn't help it! 50 cents for 3ml of Noodlers, Diamine, etc.. I COULD NOT RESIST!! Plus, I love samples more than full bottles. I like having a ton of different colors :)

I got myself my first vintage pen. An Esterbrook I got from eBay. I wasn't going to get one at all, but I saw this one had a 9788 nib, flexible medium, and usually that nib sells for as much alone as the pen and nib together did. It should be in perfect shape and writing condition. Should get it in a few days.

Also, hopefully Goulet will send me a replacement 1.1mm Lamy stub nib. I measured out my first Lamy nib, and the new one.. the new one is DEFINITELY bigger than 1.1mm. So it must have been mislabeled as a 1.1, but is actually a 1.5. Man I have bad luck with random crap like that lol

nice writing binge............. :thumb:

esties are great bang for the buck vintage.............if you get one that has not been abused too much.

pretty much the majority of all the 9XXX series nibs are decent writers- i prefer the 9284, 9788, 9048 and the 9128 somewhat out of that series the best

you are correct though that the 9788 has really went up in value and is a much desired nib. i have a couple and really like them, however would not necessarily call them flexible, springy for sure though. Back in the day I use to pick up Esties from Antique Stores, etc. for .50 cent apiece.............boy have times changed :-\

a decent, no frills vintage pen that is still inexpensive is the Sheaffer Lifetime Balance...............great 14k nibs. I put a a couple on a Noodlers Konrad that accepted it fairly well and writes great. Even if they do not fit the best you can tweak the nib over a ink pen, etc. to fit better (widen) on the feed vs. hacking away at the feed. The only thing is you do not have much feed showing depending on anything snaller than a #5 nib (Konrads or Ahabs)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 21 October 2015, 19:40:33
Thanks for the heads up on this ink sale Syribo.

(Attachment Link)
ohh another penpal. I will message you too :) Have about three others from here too, loving this so far :D

So I may have gone overboard with that ink sample sale from Isellpens... I may or may not have gotten like 30 samples.. then went back and got 30 more samples.... I couldn't help it! 50 cents for 3ml of Noodlers, Diamine, etc.. I COULD NOT RESIST!! Plus, I love samples more than full bottles. I like having a ton of different colors :)

I got myself my first vintage pen. An Esterbrook I got from eBay. I wasn't going to get one at all, but I saw this one had a 9788 nib, flexible medium, and usually that nib sells for as much alone as the pen and nib together did. It should be in perfect shape and writing condition. Should get it in a few days.

Also, hopefully Goulet will send me a replacement 1.1mm Lamy stub nib. I measured out my first Lamy nib, and the new one.. the new one is DEFINITELY bigger than 1.1mm. So it must have been mislabeled as a 1.1, but is actually a 1.5. Man I have bad luck with random crap like that lol

nice writing binge............. :thumb:

esties are great bang for the buck vintage.............if you get one that has not been abused too much.

pretty much the majority of all the 9XXX series nibs are decent writers- i prefer the 9284, 9788, 9048 and the 9128 somewhat out of that series the best

you are correct though that the 9788 has really went up in value and is a much desired nib. i have a couple and really like them, however would not necessarily call them flexible, springy for sure though. Back in the day I use to pick up Esties from Antique Stores, etc. for .50 cent apiece.............boy have times changed :-\

a decent, no frills vintage pen that is still inexpensive is the Sheaffer Lifetime Balance...............great 14k nibs. I put a a couple on a Noodlers Konrad that accepted it fairly well and writes great. Even if they do not fit the best you can tweak the nib over a ink pen, etc. to fit better (widen) on the feed vs. hacking away at the feed. The only thing is you do not have much feed showing depending on anything snaller than a #5 nib (Konrads or Ahabs)

Is the flex on the 9788 nib better than the Ahab's stock nib, at least? Ugh I hope I like it. I actually really like stub nibs more than anything right now. So I may see which Estie stub nibs seem good and try to track one down at some point. By the way, I don't have any pens with sacs in them.. The Esterbrooks have a sac, right? I don't get them really lol. Do they have to be replaced eventually? Is there a special way I need to clean out/flush this pen out compared to my Safaris, Metropolitan, Jinhaos, etc?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 October 2015, 20:50:03
I think the 9788 is a great steel flex nib. Much better than the stock Noodler's nib. The Esterbrook stub nibs are great. I wish I had more haha.

Here's some information on pen sac replacement. (http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/repair/sac_replacement.htm) Yes they need to be replaced and yes your Esterbrook will have a sac. And you need to flush the pens with the little lever....a lot. It's kind of a pain in the ass to be honest.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Wed, 21 October 2015, 22:06:11
And you need to flush the pens with the little lever....a lot. It's kind of a pain in the ass to be honest.

sacs and levers are the main reason why I decided to stick to modern pens instead. I got my first vintage flex a while back, gave it away shortly after; though I gave it away because of how small the pen was for my hand. Working those little levers is a real chore for those who like to change out their inks often.

On a different note, a few additions to my EDC; a Prera I eyedroppered and reground as a left-footed oblique, and the Justus 95 I received a few days ago.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5639/22374297935_88a5d92341_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 22 October 2015, 09:15:02
I don't have the skill nor the lighting setup for nice/proper photos, but there it is:

[attach=1]

[attach=2]

[attach=3]

This nib will need some care, it have hard starts even between words and I believe the tines are misaligned. :-/

EDIT: only now I realized that I forgot the horizontal trace on the last T of the word "Amethyst". :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 October 2015, 09:32:06
That eye-dropper Prera is awesome Larken. It makes that barrel look so good.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 22 October 2015, 09:34:29
I don't have the skill nor the lighting setup for nice/proper photos, but there it is:

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This nib will need some care, it have hard starts even between words and I believe the tines are misaligned. :-/

EDIT: only now I realized that I forgot the horizontal trace on the last T of the word "Amethyst". :(
If only Pelikan Souverain didn't have those screw on caps, I'd already have an M800.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 22 October 2015, 11:34:26
If only Pelikan Souverain didn't have those screw on caps, I'd already have an M800.
I like screw caps.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 22 October 2015, 11:57:26
And you need to flush the pens with the little lever....a lot. It's kind of a pain in the ass to be honest.

sacs and levers are the main reason why I decided to stick to modern pens instead. I got my first vintage flex a while back, gave it away shortly after; though I gave it away because of how small the pen was for my hand. Working those little levers is a real chore for those who like to change out their inks often.

On a different note, a few additions to my EDC; a Prera I eyedroppered and reground as a left-footed oblique, and the Justus 95 I received a few days ago.

Show Image
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5639/22374297935_88a5d92341_b.jpg)


I still want a Justus... hhnnnggg flat tops....
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:02:20
I don't have the skill nor the lighting setup for nice/proper photos, but there it is:

(Attachment Link)

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This nib will need some care, it have hard starts even between words and I believe the tines are misaligned. :-/

EDIT: only now I realized that I forgot the horizontal trace on the last T of the word "Amethyst". :(

I have a green M800 with a M nib that had terrible hard starts almost every time I picked up the pen from the page. Turns out the nib had some terrible "baby's bottom" going on. I sent it to Mike Masuyama and he adjusted it so it so it no longer has hard starts. Unfortunately, as nice of a pen as it is, I still don't particularly care for how it handles. I'd actually like to sell it because it's pretty much brand new and it just sits in its box in my desk.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:07:26
I have a green M800 with a M nib that had terrible hard starts almost every time I picked up the pen from the page. Turns out the nib had some terrible "baby's bottom" going on. I sent it to Mike Masuyama and he adjusted it so it so it no longer has hard starts. Unfortunately, as nice of a pen as it is, I still don't particularly care for how it handles. I'd actually like to sell it because it's pretty much brand new and it just sits in its box in my desk.
I'm planning to go to the USA next year and probably will make it coincide with a pen show. I can't afford anymore paying import taxes when receiving pens through Brazilian postal service. :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Thu, 22 October 2015, 13:23:00
Don't suppose anyone knows anything about old Parkers?  I just got this lovely 45 in the mail (after complaining all my pens were dead the other night I went to ebay...) but as described it's stuck closed.  I was expecting the section to be attached to the body in which case I would have heated it and hopefully all good, but actually the section is attached to the black bit on the other end and the gold in the middle spins round it :(

(http://i.imgur.com/D4HHRzs.jpg)

I have a nice reverse oblique nib to go in it but no point if I can't add ink!

If not any tips on opening it does anyone know what the bit at the bottom is called so I can search better?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 22 October 2015, 13:49:32
Don't suppose anyone knows anything about old Parkers?  I just got this lovely 45 in the mail (after complaining all my pens were dead the other night I went to ebay...) but as described it's stuck closed.  I was expecting the section to be attached to the body in which case I would have heated it and hopefully all good, but actually the section is attached to the black bit on the other end and the gold in the middle spins round it :(

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/D4HHRzs.jpg)


I have a nice reverse oblique nib to go in it but no point if I can't add ink!

If not any tips on opening it does anyone know what the bit at the bottom is called so I can search better?

Drop that sucker in a warm bath of water with a few drops of dish soap and let it soak over might. If that does not work get you a pair of section pliers, an old bicycle inner tube, cut you out a nice piece, hold the section with the sections pliers and crank down turning the the barrel or vice versa to separate. It does sound like though that someone cross threaded when putting back together and no heat, soaking is going to help that, but maybe some brute force.

(http://cdn.indy-pen-dance.com/images/D/section_pliers.jpg)

I have even heated water in a microwave, set the pen in for a soak till the water is a little past the section, however never do this with HR or celluloid pens :-\

Are you talking about the clutch keeps spinning between the section and the barrel? If the section is tight, will not unscrew from the barrel............, but the clutch ring is spinning that is pretty much a dead give away that is is cross threaded :'(

Worse case scenario is you can always unscrew the nib and put in another 45 if you have to. Looks like a 14k oblique which are very hard to find.

Also if the black section becomes damaged or is damaged they are easy to find and replace.

The 14k plate "cap and barrel" are not cheap, so you might want to be careful.

I have "lots" of Parker 45's and love them. Very under rated pen.

The factory 14k fine italic and obliques are my favorite 45 nibs along with a 14k/BBB. Puts down a gob of ink :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 22 October 2015, 13:58:16
Thanks for the heads up on this ink sale Syribo.

(Attachment Link)
ohh another penpal. I will message you too :) Have about three others from here too, loving this so far :D

So I may have gone overboard with that ink sample sale from Isellpens... I may or may not have gotten like 30 samples.. then went back and got 30 more samples.... I couldn't help it! 50 cents for 3ml of Noodlers, Diamine, etc.. I COULD NOT RESIST!! Plus, I love samples more than full bottles. I like having a ton of different colors :)

I got myself my first vintage pen. An Esterbrook I got from eBay. I wasn't going to get one at all, but I saw this one had a 9788 nib, flexible medium, and usually that nib sells for as much alone as the pen and nib together did. It should be in perfect shape and writing condition. Should get it in a few days.

Also, hopefully Goulet will send me a replacement 1.1mm Lamy stub nib. I measured out my first Lamy nib, and the new one.. the new one is DEFINITELY bigger than 1.1mm. So it must have been mislabeled as a 1.1, but is actually a 1.5. Man I have bad luck with random crap like that lol

nice writing binge............. :thumb:

esties are great bang for the buck vintage.............if you get one that has not been abused too much.

pretty much the majority of all the 9XXX series nibs are decent writers- i prefer the 9284, 9788, 9048 and the 9128 somewhat out of that series the best

you are correct though that the 9788 has really went up in value and is a much desired nib. i have a couple and really like them, however would not necessarily call them flexible, springy for sure though. Back in the day I use to pick up Esties from Antique Stores, etc. for .50 cent apiece.............boy have times changed :-\

a decent, no frills vintage pen that is still inexpensive is the Sheaffer Lifetime Balance...............great 14k nibs. I put a a couple on a Noodlers Konrad that accepted it fairly well and writes great. Even if they do not fit the best you can tweak the nib over a ink pen, etc. to fit better (widen) on the feed vs. hacking away at the feed. The only thing is you do not have much feed showing depending on anything snaller than a #5 nib (Konrads or Ahabs)

Is the flex on the 9788 nib better than the Ahab's stock nib, at least? Ugh I hope I like it. I actually really like stub nibs more than anything right now. So I may see which Estie stub nibs seem good and try to track one down at some point. By the way, I don't have any pens with sacs in them.. The Esterbrooks have a sac, right? I don't get them really lol. Do they have to be replaced eventually? Is there a special way I need to clean out/flush this pen out compared to my Safaris, Metropolitan, Jinhaos, etc?

if you like stubs i recommend the estie 9314f or 9314m.............relief stubs i think they are called?

(https://fpquest.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/nib9314f_top.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Esterbrook-Renew-Point-Refill-Medium-Stub-9314M-/301772164379?hash=item464305cd1b:g:vtQAAOSw5ZBWJDuC

great little writers

glad to hear people are scared of sac pens...............more for me, they are easy to change (even with bad hands) ;D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:00:06
Thanks terrpn!

The nib fitted is a standard one, I'd guess it's a medium - potato pics are great :))  The pen seems really well looked after though and there's no hint of a gap where the parts meet so I'm pretty sure it's not cross threaded.

I don't know what a clutch is but it's the whole of the gold barrel which spins (it's not exactly lose but not hard to spin when trying to undo it with normal force) while the black bit right at the bottom is attached to the black nib section.

I'm going out now but will give it a bath overnight and hopefully that will sort it :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:00:30
There's a huge difference between scared of sac pens and sac pens being a pain to flush compared to piston or c/c pens. If you like using fun ink colors, cleaning out that sac is a pain because you have to use that little lever to clean the sac out. It would be absurd to replace the sac every time I replaced an ink color.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:37:25
Just ordered an EF nib for my TWSBI Vac 700, and some red ink samples. Looks like it's time to tune my grading pen, and find the correct ink for the job.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 22 October 2015, 14:55:24

if you like stubs i recommend the estie 9314f or 9314m.............relief stubs i think they are called?

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great little writers

glad to hear people are scared of sac pens...............more for me, they are easy to change (even with bad hands) ;D
I actually have that 9314m nib on my wishlist on Anderson Pens haha. I loooove me some stub nibs. I need to try an oblique nib too sometime. So far I love stub nibs the most by far.

There's a huge difference between scared of sac pens and sac pens being a pain to flush compared to piston or c/c pens. If you like using fun ink colors, cleaning out that sac is a pain because you have to use that little lever to clean the sac out. It would be absurd to replace the sac every time I replaced an ink color.
See, I'm one of those people that change out my inks A LOT.. My fingers are always covered in ink now. So the thing with the sacs being more annoying to clean out every time you want to change kinda sucks. I'll probably put a color in it that I like more than anything, and use that one color mainly in it. But.. I always have a hard time with that lol.



I can't believe the ink sample sale from Isellpens actually was legit and I got so much stuff... I just got tracking info yesterday, so the ~60 sample vials are on the way. 60 samples for less than $40 holy crap! I don't even remember which colors I picked, some were really random but for 50 cents I couldn't pass it up.

I also am ashamed to admit this but.. I had to make myself a spreadsheet in Excel to keep track of the ink samples I have. They're all sorted alphabetically by brand, and then name.. Now I have to input like 60 new ones, and re-order everything, this is gonna be fun.

I even added a swatch next to each color with the color that it is LOL Yes, I have a lot of time on my hands stuck in bed with a crippled leg. Did anyone else end up getting any ink from that sale? They also had bottles of ink for half price, along with a sale on Rhodia and some FP's.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 22 October 2015, 16:04:49
There's a huge difference between scared of sac pens and sac pens being a pain to flush compared to piston or c/c pens. If you like using fun ink colors, cleaning out that sac is a pain because you have to use that little lever to clean the sac out. It would be absurd to replace the sac every time I replaced an ink color.

i am from a different generation.....................and i did not say a better generation-- we did not swap out inks in-out sac pens like people do today. i have never seen people swap out inks in vintage sac pens like people do today

a lot of these new, exotic inks will melt a rubber sac over time unless you have installed a newer silicone sac, however saying that there are still black-blue, traditional colors that will melt a rubber sac

if you are changing inks that often get a dip nib and a holder.............nothing more fun than using a vintage, steel dip pen in a holder for little money; flex writing at its best

i pretty much keep black-blue in my sac pens and like CPTBadAss pointed out use my PF, AF, CC fillers for pens i swap out inks more often

9788's are fairly flexible for what they are, noodlers flex not so much unless you mod them.

i have a couple vintage japanese ED from'40's-'50's that are pretty flexy though :thumb:

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 22 October 2015, 17:30:55
There's a huge difference between scared of sac pens and sac pens being a pain to flush compared to piston or c/c pens. If you like using fun ink colors, cleaning out that sac is a pain because you have to use that little lever to clean the sac out. It would be absurd to replace the sac every time I replaced an ink color.

i am from a different generation.....................and i did not say a better generation-- we did not swap out inks in-out sac pens like people do today. i have never seen people swap out inks in vintage sac pens like people do today

a lot of these new, exotic inks will melt a rubber sac over time unless you have installed a newer silicone sac, however saying that there are still black-blue, traditional colors that will melt a rubber sac

if you are changing inks that often get a dip nib and a holder.............nothing more fun than using a vintage, steel dip pen in a holder for little money; flex writing at its best

i pretty much keep black-blue in my sac pens and like CPTBadAss pointed out use my PF, AF, CC fillers for pens i swap out inks more often

9788's are fairly flexible for what they are, noodlers flex not so much unless you mod them.

i have a couple vintage japanese ED from'40's-'50's that are pretty flexy though :thumb:
Hm, so I wonder if any of these inks that I have and use a lot will be bad for the sac in the Esterbrook when I get it.. now I'm a little nervous haha. Maybe I'll keep something simple in it.  But I have a hard time holding myself back from switching out inks often... I just think it's so fun to be able to use a different color whenever I want.

I've actually been kinda interested in dip pens for that reason.. but I imagine they take a little bit of a learning curve to use right? I keep seeing sets of these Zebra nibs for pretty cheap, and people seem to like them... hmm, maybe some day!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 22 October 2015, 17:41:54
Oh I'm also a little worried about just how tiny the Esterbrook is going to be. It's an SJ so I know that it's smaller than the other pens.. and I have really really long fingers (I have hands proportionate to being a 6'1" female).. so this will be an interesting pen to hold compared to the giant Jinhaos and stuff that I have right now.

I really wanted a pink or purple one lol of course.. but I only saw like one purple Esterbrook and it was either insanely expensive or it was just for parts.

I actually did find a pink Jinhao that I like a lot... but I'm not sure if the specific model of it lets you swap out the nib or not.. and I'd like to switch it out with a Goulet nib or something. I have to say, my cheap Jinhao with a Goulet nib on it is like.. the smoothest writer I have.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 22 October 2015, 18:05:10
I have 22.5cm hands and Esties are fine for me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 22 October 2015, 20:32:36
i have fairly large hands........with my SJ and cap posted no issues

as far as ink.............just ink up with your favorite and try to stay in the same color family.

when switching up just do a couple repeated cool water fills with the lever pulling water in the sac, rinsing and on the last fill give it a couple seconds so any ink will dissolve and go for it. life is to short.

if it fries the sac we'll show you how to r/r a new one. have fun with it and enjoy :thumb:

i have not used it for a long time, but diamine seems to be ok in older pens
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:23:23
That eye-dropper Prera is awesome Larken. It makes that barrel look so good.

 ;D that was what I thought when I decided to eyedropper it; didn't look quite as good with a con-50 inside. I had lots of Sailor Souten and figured it would look good in the light blue prera that I got from a giveaway. I'm surprised that it's about 1/3 empty already, given it doesn't see as much use as my other pens.

I still want a Justus... hhnnnggg flat tops....

Its a really nice pen, but if you're looking at it for flex, you might be disappointed. Contrary to the few reviews out there on the web, it is still stiffer than the Soft Fine on a Custom 74 at the softest setting, and no where near the flexibility of a FA nib on a 912 (which is a really nice flat top as well :D). The pen's size, balance, and the tension bar function however, makes for a perfect everyday writer for me, so much so that I added flex and reground my 912FA to needlepoint-ish to serve as a fancy writing pen.

There's a huge difference between scared of sac pens and sac pens being a pain to flush compared to piston or c/c pens. If you like using fun ink colors, cleaning out that sac is a pain because you have to use that little lever to clean the sac out. It would be absurd to replace the sac every time I replaced an ink color.

i am from a different generation.....................and i did not say a better generation-- we did not swap out inks in-out sac pens like people do today. i have never seen people swap out inks in vintage sac pens like people do today

a lot of these new, exotic inks will melt a rubber sac over time unless you have installed a newer silicone sac, however saying that there are still black-blue, traditional colors that will melt a rubber sac

if you are changing inks that often get a dip nib and a holder.............nothing more fun than using a vintage, steel dip pen in a holder for little money; flex writing at its best

i pretty much keep black-blue in my sac pens and like CPTBadAss pointed out use my PF, AF, CC fillers for pens i swap out inks more often

9788's are fairly flexible for what they are, noodlers flex not so much unless you mod them.

i have a couple vintage japanese ED from'40's-'50's that are pretty flexy though :thumb:
Hm, so I wonder if any of these inks that I have and use a lot will be bad for the sac in the Esterbrook when I get it.. now I'm a little nervous haha. Maybe I'll keep something simple in it.  But I have a hard time holding myself back from switching out inks often... I just think it's so fun to be able to use a different color whenever I want.

I've actually been kinda interested in dip pens for that reason.. but I imagine they take a little bit of a learning curve to use right? I keep seeing sets of these Zebra nibs for pretty cheap, and people seem to like them... hmm, maybe some day!

Like CBA said, its not so much daunting than tedious to flush a sac pen, and I'm not really the type of user who'd switch out inks often either, except for the phase that I go through a few for each new pen where I try to decide which ink I want to use for that pen/nib by testing it on my usual paper, before committing to one permanently. Even that is rather time consuming, given how many flushes it takes to completely (if even possible) clean the ink out from the sac.   :))

There are some inks with bad rep for melting sacs on their own, but keep in mind that even a safe ink might give problems if it's mixed and reacts with the residue of another safe ink left in the sac. For that reason alone, I'm inclined to stick with just one ink for such pens, and I do the ink switching mostly on C/C pens that can be flushed easily with a bulb syringe.

I agree with giving dip pens a try too. Like terrpn said, flex at its best, for little money. I found that its a good way to up your game with flex writing given how less forgiving such nibs are on your pressure control. After an hour or two acclimatising to a dip pen, it conditions your muscle memory enough to exert pressure at the right strokes that it carries over fountain pen use; I was very surprised to find how much easier it is to use my 912FA in comparison after that.

The ZebraG are fairly nice; their popularity is mostly due to how they can be fitted into Jinhaos and Noodlers to make frankenpens, but they will corrode after a short while and will need to be replaced. I haven't had much experience with other dip nibs, other that the brause ef66, which is fairly decent as well.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:46:24
That eye-dropper Prera is awesome Larken. It makes that barrel look so good.

 ;D that was what I thought when I decided to eyedropper it; didn't look quite as good with a con-50 inside. I had lots of Sailor Souten and figured it would look good in the light blue prera that I got from a giveaway. I'm surprised that it's about 1/3 empty already, given it doesn't see as much use as my other pens.

I still want a Justus... hhnnnggg flat tops....

Its a really nice pen, but if you're looking at it for flex, you might be disappointed. Contrary to the few reviews out there on the web, it is still stiffer than the Soft Fine on a Custom 74 at the softest setting, and no where near the flexibility of a FA nib on a 912 (which is a really nice flat top as well :D). The pen's size, balance, and the tension bar function however, makes for a perfect everyday writer for me, so much so that I added flex and reground my 912FA to needlepoint-ish to serve as a fancy writing pen.

There's a huge difference between scared of sac pens and sac pens being a pain to flush compared to piston or c/c pens. If you like using fun ink colors, cleaning out that sac is a pain because you have to use that little lever to clean the sac out. It would be absurd to replace the sac every time I replaced an ink color.

i am from a different generation.....................and i did not say a better generation-- we did not swap out inks in-out sac pens like people do today. i have never seen people swap out inks in vintage sac pens like people do today

a lot of these new, exotic inks will melt a rubber sac over time unless you have installed a newer silicone sac, however saying that there are still black-blue, traditional colors that will melt a rubber sac

if you are changing inks that often get a dip nib and a holder.............nothing more fun than using a vintage, steel dip pen in a holder for little money; flex writing at its best

i pretty much keep black-blue in my sac pens and like CPTBadAss pointed out use my PF, AF, CC fillers for pens i swap out inks more often

9788's are fairly flexible for what they are, noodlers flex not so much unless you mod them.

i have a couple vintage japanese ED from'40's-'50's that are pretty flexy though :thumb:
Hm, so I wonder if any of these inks that I have and use a lot will be bad for the sac in the Esterbrook when I get it.. now I'm a little nervous haha. Maybe I'll keep something simple in it.  But I have a hard time holding myself back from switching out inks often... I just think it's so fun to be able to use a different color whenever I want.

I've actually been kinda interested in dip pens for that reason.. but I imagine they take a little bit of a learning curve to use right? I keep seeing sets of these Zebra nibs for pretty cheap, and people seem to like them... hmm, maybe some day!

Like CBA said, its not so much daunting than tedious to flush a sac pen, and I'm not really the type of user who'd switch out inks often either, except for the phase that I go through a few for each new pen where I try to decide which ink I want to use for that pen/nib by testing it on my usual paper, before committing to one permanently. Even that is rather time consuming, given how many flushes it takes to completely (if even possible) clean the ink out from the sac.   :))

There are some inks with bad rep for melting sacs on their own, but keep in mind that even a safe ink might give problems if it's mixed and reacts with the residue of another safe ink left in the sac. For that reason alone, I'm inclined to stick with just one ink for such pens, and I do the ink switching mostly on C/C pens that can be flushed easily with a bulb syringe.

I agree with giving dip pens a try too. Like terrpn said, flex at its best, for little money. I found that its a good way to up your game with flex writing given how less forgiving such nibs are on your pressure control. After an hour or two acclimatising to a dip pen, it conditions your muscle memory enough to exert pressure at the right strokes that it carries over fountain pen use; I was very surprised to find how much easier it is to use my 912FA in comparison after that.

The ZebraG are fairly nice; their popularity is mostly due to how they can be fitted into Jinhaos and Noodlers to make frankenpens, but they will corrode after a short while and will need to be replaced. I haven't had much experience with other dip nibs, other that the brause ef66, which is fairly decent as well.
Not looking for flex. I don't really dig flex any longer.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: digi on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:59:03
I was using this pen today, **** was crazy dope:

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:59:39

Not looking for flex. I don't really dig flex any longer.

In that case, its a great pen. Its also the first nib in all the pens I have that I am hesitant to tune, even a little, given how perfect it writes out of the box.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 23 October 2015, 00:26:10
Oh yeah, I forgot I got this... I got a little owl wax seal stamp and wax to seal envelopes :P I just thought it would be fun to try. Got pink wax, of course, to go with the pink stationery :) Anyone else tried it before just for fun?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 23 October 2015, 06:38:11
What paper do you guys use?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Fri, 23 October 2015, 07:21:43
Oh yeah, I forgot I got this... I got a little owl wax seal stamp and wax to seal envelopes :P I just thought it would be fun to try. Got pink wax, of course, to go with the pink stationery :) Anyone else tried it before just for fun?

I was just chatting with someone else about this. I keep thinking I should give it a go. If my new pen pals continue to write me, I might pick up a cheap seal and some wax. The tough part is I use basic business stationary, so I feel like a nice wax seal would be out of place on it. I'm just not sure what sort of stationary would be a good go-to for pen pals, but not kill the bank.

What paper do you guys use?

This is blasphemy around here, but I use the college rule paper you get from Target and such for school. I do have a Rhodia 11.7" X 8.3" top spiral to really test out inks or to write for my pleasure, but otherwise I tend to use cheap stationary. I need to find something to upgrade to, but without killing the bank.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 October 2015, 07:58:24
What paper do you guys use?

This HP printer paper work has is great. For high end papers, I like Rhodia and Clairefontaine.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 23 October 2015, 13:08:23

Like CBA said, its not so much daunting than tedious to flush a sac pen, and I'm not really the type of user who'd switch out inks often either, except for the phase that I go through a few for each new pen where I try to decide which ink I want to use for that pen/nib by testing it on my usual paper, before committing to one permanently. Even that is rather time consuming, given how many flushes it takes to completely (if even possible) clean the ink out from the sac.   :))

There are some inks with bad rep for melting sacs on their own, but keep in mind that even a safe ink might give problems if it's mixed and reacts with the residue of another safe ink left in the sac. For that reason alone, I'm inclined to stick with just one ink for such pens, and I do the ink switching mostly on C/C pens that can be flushed easily with a bulb syringe.

I agree with giving dip pens a try too. Like terrpn said, flex at its best, for little money. I found that its a good way to up your game with flex writing given how less forgiving such nibs are on your pressure control. After an hour or two acclimatising to a dip pen, it conditions your muscle memory enough to exert pressure at the right strokes that it carries over fountain pen use; I was very surprised to find how much easier it is to use my 912FA in comparison after that.

The ZebraG are fairly nice; their popularity is mostly due to how they can be fitted into Jinhaos and Noodlers to make frankenpens, but they will corrode after a short while and will need to be replaced. I haven't had much experience with other dip nibs, other that the brause ef66, which is fairly decent as well.
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great post :thumb:

staying with one ink is fairly important at least in the older latex sac pens cannot be stressed enough, but please know that i have done "that exact thing" and my old latex sac pens are still pliable after 20 years and hold a fair amount of ink :thumb:

great point on the zebra chrome/steel nibs.............they will corrode big time. i ordered some of the gold colored (titanium) ones, which are a little more pricey, but hopefully will not corrode?

i have every once in a while do a water rinse with a little silicone lubricant for the sac if i feel it hardening up, but then you have to go back and do a water rinse with a couple drops of soap to remove the lube from the feed.

i wish more people would purchase and use the older-vintage sac pens, but i do understand and respect the reason for being apprehensive or go in another direction.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:28:02
At least I now know to just try not to switch out inks and stuff in the Esterbrook when I get it :) I'm trying to decide on just one ink to stick in there, and stick with it until it's empty. This is exactly why I buy sample bottles and not full bottles, I can't commit haha.

I just fell in love with another color I finally tried for the first time.. J. Herbin Rose Cylcamen. Oh my God it's so pretty.

I have so many damn ink samples now.. I think I need to go down the route of using something to swab samples to keep track of them. I see a lot of people using this: http://www.gouletpens.com/maruman-mnemosyne-word-cards/p/MM-W190 ... And I might get one eventually. They're apparently perfect for swabbing samples of ink onto and to keep track :) You know what else would probably help me with my obsessive ink trying? A glass dip pen. Every time I want to try a new ink, just to see if I really like it, I go through that whole process of cleaning out the pens, letting them dry overnight, etc.. and a lot of times I want to switch out the ink right away again. So at some point, I think I'll invest in a glass pen and a book to keep track of them. I'm overflowing with ink samples!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:40:19
i am so embarrassed and forgetful :-\

i forgot to mention....................grab one of these esterbrook dip-less pens, stick your favorite esterbrook nib in and use whatever ink you want ;D

no sac.........just dip away. the feed will hold enough to write at least a decent paragraph vs. just a steel nib which will only give you a couple words.

if you drastically change an ink color just unscrew the "renew" nib, give it a rinse and reinstall in the pen

i forgot i even had these............. :-\

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Fri, 23 October 2015, 20:36:43
My 1.4mm Franklin-Cristoph nib arrived earlier - it definitely shows off the ink better, but it requires me to write larger than I like. Still, I don't hate it. It's helping me to figure out what I want in a fountain pen.
Thank you again for the recommendation Larken. The nib seems to stick out a little further in my pen than in the picture that you put up, but it works and it's secure, so I am not worried...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 23 October 2015, 21:10:25
1.4mm must be pretty thick. The one nib I have that is labeled a 1.1mm but it is definitely a 1.5mm, is really really really thick lol .I can't even use it to write in my journal because the lines are so small in it, and the nib is just too thick. I think 1.1mm is pretty perfect.

I would love to get a nib that's smaller than 1.0mm with a stub on it, THAT would be perfect. But I haven't seen anything that wasn't hundreds of dollars in that size, or needing to be customized.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Fri, 23 October 2015, 23:21:28

great post :thumb:

staying with one ink is fairly important at least in the older latex sac pens cannot be stressed enough, but please know that i have done "that exact thing" and my old latex sac pens are still pliable after 20 years and hold a fair amount of ink :thumb:

great point on the zebra chrome/steel nibs.............they will corrode big time. i ordered some of the gold colored (titanium) ones, which are a little more pricey, but hopefully will not corrode?

i have every once in a while do a water rinse with a little silicone lubricant for the sac if i feel it hardening up, but then you have to go back and do a water rinse with a couple drops of soap to remove the lube from the feed.

i wish more people would purchase and use the older-vintage sac pens, but i do understand and respect the reason for being apprehensive or go in another direction.



Yea, in most cases, the answer is 'it depends.'. I'm guessing most vintage pen users don't have problems with slightly mixing inks/residue, but the horror stories we get on the web are the vocal minority. Personally I haven't had much experience with older pens, but have stained a few demonstrators badly mixing rather safe inks, thinking it was okay; I was dumb :D.

I probably wouldn't mind the filling system in regular use, as long as it doesn't leak, but as of now I find modern pens to be much more convenient. Can't deny that vintage has its charms though. Any recommendations for a mid to full sized vintage flex pen, say about the size and length of a custom 74 at least? Or does one not exist?

The titanium Zebra Gs will still corrode, but they should last longer than the regular ones. It's mostly due to the ink deposits from the feed (which you can't clean), but with some care, one nib should last 1-2 months of regular use.

My 1.4mm Franklin-Cristoph nib arrived earlier - it definitely shows off the ink better, but it requires me to write larger than I like. Still, I don't hate it. It's helping me to figure out what I want in a fountain pen.
Thank you again for the recommendation Larken. The nib seems to stick out a little further in my pen than in the picture that you put up, but it works and it's secure, so I am not worried...

make sure you don't overtighten the feed unit, its a good way to crack the feed holder part on the barrel. Also, check that it doesn't wobble left to right.

I found the 1.1 from TWSBI to be overly large for my use, so I never bothered with larger nibs; but I tend to write small. For regular writing, I'd probably not go more than 0.8mm (personally prefer 0.6mm ish, and then tweak it to write extremely wet for that shading to show). The Masuyama ground CIs are a treat to use if you're looking at other nib replacements. But do keep in mind that CIs are less forgiving than stubs in use.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Sat, 24 October 2015, 01:53:16
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 24 October 2015, 02:30:11
Has anyone tried the Tomoe River paper yet? I want to try it sometime.. I know it's really thin, but supposed to be good for fountain pens. It's really expensive though, which is why I haven't tried it yet.. but.. I really really want to lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 24 October 2015, 18:03:05
Has anyone tried the Tomoe River paper yet? I want to try it sometime.. I know it's really thin, but supposed to be good for fountain pens. It's really expensive though, which is why I haven't tried it yet.. but.. I really really want to lol

I love Tomoe River and SN^2 paper.  They are my #2 and #1.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sat, 24 October 2015, 18:37:26
Has anyone tried the Tomoe River paper yet? I want to try it sometime.. I know it's really thin, but supposed to be good for fountain pens. It's really expensive though, which is why I haven't tried it yet.. but.. I really really want to lol

I love Tomoe River and SN^2 paper.  They are my #2 and #1.

What do you typically find is your purpose for writing? What helps you select which paper to use?

Honest questions. I'd love to pick up some better paper, but it would be strictly for pen pals, and I'm not sure how I'd pick one paper over another at this point. On a side note, the stationary at my work is incredibly nice, but it's a grid, so not a great writing paper. Lovely weight though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 24 October 2015, 19:19:06
Has anyone tried the Tomoe River paper yet? I want to try it sometime.. I know it's really thin, but supposed to be good for fountain pens. It's really expensive though, which is why I haven't tried it yet.. but.. I really really want to lol

I love Tomoe River and SN^2 paper.  They are my #2 and #1.

What do you typically find is your purpose for writing? What helps you select which paper to use?

Honest questions. I'd love to pick up some better paper, but it would be strictly for pen pals, and I'm not sure how I'd pick one paper over another at this point. On a side note, the stationary at my work is incredibly nice, but it's a grid, so not a great writing paper. Lovely weight though.
I just got your letter today :) I'm going to start writing a reply ASAP to you. I love that Ink of the Witch ahhhh... I really really wish that some places would sell the Bung Box inks in samples so I could try them out.

Right now I have a few different papers I have solely for writing letters. The G. Lalo stationery I really wanted to try out because I heard the texture is great, and the pink is a nice subtle pretty color. Clairefontaine Triomphe I bought because I've seen it phrased A LOT as amazing fountain pen stationery. I have a premium Rhodia pad that I also have to write letters, but  haven't used yet.

I really wanna try the Tomoe River paper, and Original Crown Mill's stationery too. I'm a sucker for pretty and nice paper :) Aside from the G. Lalo stationery, everything else I have is ruled. I just place a lined guide sheet underneath the paper when I write and can write pretty straight with it. I really like dot grid, but never seen any kind of stationery with dot grid. Always blank or lined.

I'm sad, my Esterbrook from eBay got sent to the wrong address. I forgot that the last time I used my eBay account, it was to send something to my sister. I never changed the address and it went to her house, damn it lol. Gonna have to wait a bit til I get it!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 24 October 2015, 19:21:31
I write to get ideas out and connect with my words.  I do pen pal with folks. My requirements for paper are all about how well ink flows to the paper and how it looks.  Both papers I mentioned work fantastically with my pens and inks.  My 3rd favorite paper is Rhodia R.  SN^2 paper is not coated and still performs.  If you do anything with heavy flow you will appreciate it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 24 October 2015, 22:24:04
I have to say thanks Syribo.  I just got my sample bag today.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 24 October 2015, 23:01:56
I have to say thanks Syribo.  I just got my sample bag today.
You got in on the Isellpens sale? Man I can't wait to get all of mine Monday or Tuesday. I missed out on the 25 cent ones.. but got a ton of 50 cent and 75 cent samples! Totally worth the money. Even better that they're 3ml and not 2ml like Goulet does. That's why I prefer getting my samples from Anderson. That extra 1ml seems like A LOT :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 24 October 2015, 23:12:19
I have to say thanks Syribo.  I just got my sample bag today.
You got in on the Isellpens sale? Man I can't wait to get all of mine Monday or Tuesday. I missed out on the 25 cent ones.. but got a ton of 50 cent and 75 cent samples! Totally worth the money. Even better that they're 3ml and not 2ml like Goulet does. That's why I prefer getting my samples from Anderson. That extra 1ml seems like A LOT :)

Yeah, I got a bunch of the 0.50-0.75 ones too.  Most of the ones I really wanted were sold out, but there were still some awesome colors.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 26 October 2015, 15:48:16
(http://i.imgur.com/kM7Egdz.jpg)
I got my ink samples from that sale.. I regret nothing. Now to inventory them all and put them in order with my others :x :x
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 26 October 2015, 16:21:33
Just in case anyone cares I have an update on my shiny old Parker.  After a night of soaking I tried again to undo it (I have no cool section pliers or spare bicycle tube so had to rely on my fingers) and managed to snap the black bit off the bottom.

Turns out the barrel is made up of a black plastic liner to which the gold outer tube is glued, and the glue had given up leaving the gold to spin freely.  It wasn't cross threaded so came apart easily revealing some pretty clean innards and a non leaky but very blue sac

(http://i.imgur.com/nzH5Uh2.jpg)

Now all I need is some superglue to put it back together and a gold-tone ink (I try and match the ink to the pen's colour) and it will be back in action.  I think this is the one colour missing from your extensive sample collection Syribo :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 26 October 2015, 17:10:25
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kM7Egdz.jpg)

I got my ink samples from that sale.. I regret nothing. Now to inventory them all and put them in order with my others :x :x

So jealous.  This was my score:

(http://i.imgur.com/OI5hL27.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 26 October 2015, 18:47:13
Just in case anyone cares I have an update on my shiny old Parker.  After a night of soaking I tried again to undo it (I have no cool section pliers or spare bicycle tube so had to rely on my fingers) and managed to snap the black bit off the bottom.

Turns out the barrel is made up of a black plastic liner to which the gold outer tube is glued, and the glue had given up leaving the gold to spin freely.  It wasn't cross threaded so came apart easily revealing some pretty clean innards and a non leaky but very blue sac

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/nzH5Uh2.jpg)


Now all I need is some superglue to put it back together and a gold-tone ink (I try and match the ink to the pen's colour) and it will be back in action.  I think this is the one colour missing from your extensive sample collection Syribo :))
I actually have a whole bunch of yellow-goldish inks haha. I haven't tried most of them yet. I did try the Diamine Shimmertastic Golden sands, though. It's REEEALLY nice. Beautiful gold color with lots of sparkle and sheen :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 26 October 2015, 19:55:21
I ordered my first sample set from Goulet and a TWSBI Vac 700 extra fine nib. I haven't got a chance to try the EF nib, but I just finished cataloging my ink collection with my Vac700 and medium nib. It's the largest nib I own. I figured it was the best chance to show off each ink.

The process:
(http://i.imgur.com/hTTmhxZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WenHO6i.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 26 October 2015, 20:22:42
I actually have a whole bunch of yellow-goldish inks haha. I haven't tried most of them yet. I did try the Diamine Shimmertastic Golden sands, though. It's REEEALLY nice. Beautiful gold color with lots of sparkle and sheen :)

I didn't see any in your latest haul, who'da thought you already had lots sitting round unused!

I have Diamine Imperial Purple, Delamere Green and Amber and they all behave quite well (except with a fat, wet, oblique nib on a cheap envelope :))) so this sounds very tempting...  Any chance of a pic of your testing please?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Tue, 27 October 2015, 20:32:45
I actually have a whole bunch of yellow-goldish inks haha. I haven't tried most of them yet. I did try the Diamine Shimmertastic Golden sands, though. It's REEEALLY nice. Beautiful gold color with lots of sparkle and sheen :)

I didn't see any in your latest haul, who'da thought you already had lots sitting round unused!

I have Diamine Imperial Purple, Delamere Green and Amber and they all behave quite well (except with a fat, wet, oblique nib on a cheap envelope :))) so this sounds very tempting...  Any chance of a pic of your testing please?
Oh you have no idea how much ink I have sitting around unused.. lol.. So I may have a slight ink sample hoarding situation going on here.

Now, don't judge me.. This is how I keep track of them:
(http://i.imgur.com/dl8Y8GW.png)

I literally took inventory of every single one I have, in alphabetical order by Brand and then Name. I also created a swatch as close as I could just by eye-balling some ink swatches, to put next to each name, so I can find a certain color or shade fast..

I'm really organized, don't make fun of me haha. They all are alphabetical in the vial holders too. Only thing that sucks is if I get a new one, I have to move them all over lol But I'm not letting myself acquire ANYMORE ink samples. I'm set. I have like.. 120.. I'm awful.

Next is sampling and cataloging them on actual paper.. using a dip pen and q-tip or something, to get swatches in person. I actually have a thing for sorting, categorizing, filing, etc. It keeps my brain occupied and I find it soothing ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 27 October 2015, 20:41:50
I actually have a whole bunch of yellow-goldish inks haha. I haven't tried most of them yet. I did try the Diamine Shimmertastic Golden sands, though. It's REEEALLY nice. Beautiful gold color with lots of sparkle and sheen :)

I didn't see any in your latest haul, who'da thought you already had lots sitting round unused!

I have Diamine Imperial Purple, Delamere Green and Amber and they all behave quite well (except with a fat, wet, oblique nib on a cheap envelope :))) so this sounds very tempting...  Any chance of a pic of your testing please?
Oh you have no idea how much ink I have sitting around unused.. lol.. So I may have a slight ink sample hoarding situation going on here.

Now, don't judge me.. This is how I keep track of them:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dl8Y8GW.png)


I literally took inventory of every single one I have, in alphabetical order by Brand and then Name. I also created a swatch as close as I could just by eye-balling some ink swatches, to put next to each name, so I can find a certain color or shade fast..

I'm really organized, don't make fun of me haha. They all are alphabetical in the vial holders too. Only thing that sucks is if I get a new one, I have to move them all over lol But I'm not letting myself acquire ANYMORE ink samples. I'm set. I have like.. 120.. I'm awful.

Next is sampling and cataloging them on actual paper.. using a dip pen and q-tip or something, to get swatches in person. I actually have a thing for sorting, categorizing, filing, etc. It keeps my brain occupied and I find it soothing ;)

Have you ever went to a pen store? You would have a literal heart attack.
The one I went to had a massive swatch album of every single ink they had in stock.
You could probably kill someone with that album...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 27 October 2015, 20:52:22
If you think a pen store has a lot of swatches, you've never seen a pen show. At the SF pen show, they literally had like 4-6 folding tables filled with inks you could try. And then retailers will bring tons and tons of ink to sell.



Cross posted from here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70769.msg1911380#msg1911380)

(http://i.imgur.com/XPTAzj3.jpg?1)

Pelikan M205 Duo, yellow, with J Herbin Diablo Menthe ink and a double broad nib. It's Tiffany blue <3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 28 October 2015, 08:12:06
OMG literally tables of ink! I would have a literal heart attack!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Wed, 28 October 2015, 11:19:20
I actually have a whole bunch of yellow-goldish inks haha. I haven't tried most of them yet. I did try the Diamine Shimmertastic Golden sands, though. It's REEEALLY nice. Beautiful gold color with lots of sparkle and sheen :)

I didn't see any in your latest haul, who'da thought you already had lots sitting round unused!

I have Diamine Imperial Purple, Delamere Green and Amber and they all behave quite well (except with a fat, wet, oblique nib on a cheap envelope :))) so this sounds very tempting...  Any chance of a pic of your testing please?
Oh you have no idea how much ink I have sitting around unused.. lol.. So I may have a slight ink sample hoarding situation going on here.

Now, don't judge me.. This is how I keep track of them:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dl8Y8GW.png)


I literally took inventory of every single one I have, in alphabetical order by Brand and then Name. I also created a swatch as close as I could just by eye-balling some ink swatches, to put next to each name, so I can find a certain color or shade fast..

I'm really organized, don't make fun of me haha. They all are alphabetical in the vial holders too. Only thing that sucks is if I get a new one, I have to move them all over lol But I'm not letting myself acquire ANYMORE ink samples. I'm set. I have like.. 120.. I'm awful.

Next is sampling and cataloging them on actual paper.. using a dip pen and q-tip or something, to get swatches in person. I actually have a thing for sorting, categorizing, filing, etc. It keeps my brain occupied and I find it soothing ;)

That's an awesome catalog! I just recently cataloged mine, albeit it was only about 15. I followed the following format on white index cards:
Brand name
Ink name
Swirls/curves
Pen and nib size
1 sec (smear after 1 sec)
5 sec (smear after 5 sec)
10 sec (smear after 10 sec)

and to the right of the timed smears, I wiped the bottom of the nib off on the index card to get a big sample of the color.

The only thing I wish I had down while I had the ink in my pen was write down the brand/ink name on standard printer paper and then sprinkled some water on it to test its resilience to spills. Since I'm looking for an ink to do mark ups on papers with, having an ink that is bulletproof is hugely important to me. I just don't feel like reinking my pen with each sample again.... Something to consider, if you're looking for resilient inks. Have fun :thumb: Feel free to send me some extra swatches of good blues and pinks. I'm looking for something in that range.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 October 2015, 12:18:10
If you think a pen store has a lot of swatches, you've never seen a pen show. At the SF pen show, they literally had like 4-6 folding tables filled with inks you could try. And then retailers will bring tons and tons of ink to sell.



Cross posted from here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70769.msg1911380#msg1911380)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XPTAzj3.jpg?1)


Pelikan M205 Duo, yellow, with J Herbin Diablo Menthe ink and a double broad nib. It's Tiffany blue <3

So excited about Columbus.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 28 October 2015, 14:07:34
OMG literally tables of ink! I would have a literal heart attack!

Why?  Are you allergic to ink?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 28 October 2015, 15:48:51
OMG literally tables of ink! I would have a literal heart attack!

Why?  Are you allergic to ink?
Can allergy give a "literal heart attack"? I am now bothered :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 28 October 2015, 16:24:55
OMG literally tables of ink! I would have a literal heart attack!

Why?  Are you allergic to ink?
Can allergy give a "literal heart attack"? I am now bothered :(

I do not know.

But you seemed to indicate that you would have a heart attack due to a table full of ink.

It was assumed there was some pathological link.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 28 October 2015, 17:08:38
Iri + writing instruments = pathological link, yes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 28 October 2015, 17:09:19
Iri + writing instruments = pathological link, yes.

:D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 28 October 2015, 17:37:52
Oh you have no idea how much ink I have sitting around unused.. lol.. So I may have a slight ink sample hoarding situation going on here.

Now, don't judge me.. This is how I keep track of them:

[awesomely organised spreadsheet pic]

I literally took inventory of every single one I have, in alphabetical order by Brand and then Name. I also created a swatch as close as I could just by eye-balling some ink swatches, to put next to each name, so I can find a certain color or shade fast..

I'm really organized, don't make fun of me haha. They all are alphabetical in the vial holders too. Only thing that sucks is if I get a new one, I have to move them all over lol But I'm not letting myself acquire ANYMORE ink samples. I'm set. I have like.. 120.. I'm awful.

Next is sampling and cataloging them on actual paper.. using a dip pen and q-tip or something, to get swatches in person. I actually have a thing for sorting, categorizing, filing, etc. It keeps my brain occupied and I find it soothing ;)

You do know it's damn near impossible not to judge, right?  As a walking mess I'm not sure whether my overriding feeling was one of admiration, jealousy, or inadequacy but I am seriously impressed!  I am also strangely tempted to send you a sample of Diamine Amber so you have to move 100 bottles along :P  Don't worry though, I have not seen that bottle for a couple of months.  It's here somewhere, safely stored somewhere dark... :-[
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 28 October 2015, 17:54:05
Oh you have no idea how much ink I have sitting around unused.. lol.. So I may have a slight ink sample hoarding situation going on here.

Now, don't judge me.. This is how I keep track of them:

[awesomely organised spreadsheet pic]

I literally took inventory of every single one I have, in alphabetical order by Brand and then Name. I also created a swatch as close as I could just by eye-balling some ink swatches, to put next to each name, so I can find a certain color or shade fast..

I'm really organized, don't make fun of me haha. They all are alphabetical in the vial holders too. Only thing that sucks is if I get a new one, I have to move them all over lol But I'm not letting myself acquire ANYMORE ink samples. I'm set. I have like.. 120.. I'm awful.

Next is sampling and cataloging them on actual paper.. using a dip pen and q-tip or something, to get swatches in person. I actually have a thing for sorting, categorizing, filing, etc. It keeps my brain occupied and I find it soothing ;)

You do know it's damn near impossible not to judge, right?  As a walking mess I'm not sure whether my overriding feeling was one of admiration, jealousy, or inadequacy but I am seriously impressed!  I am also strangely tempted to send you a sample of Diamine Amber so you have to move 100 bottles along :P  Don't worry though, I have not seen that bottle for a couple of months.  It's here somewhere, safely stored somewhere dark... :-[
Oh my God I would probably cry LOL. The one good thing about the obsessive order.. is that it is keeping me from wanting ANYMORE samples, unless it starts with a Z or something haha.

I hope to get myself to a pen show sometime this year. I also want to visit some local antique stores, see if I can find any awesome prices on some vintage pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 28 October 2015, 18:02:48
Oh you have no idea how much ink I have sitting around unused.. lol.. So I may have a slight ink sample hoarding situation going on here.

Now, don't judge me.. This is how I keep track of them:

[awesomely organised spreadsheet pic]

I literally took inventory of every single one I have, in alphabetical order by Brand and then Name. I also created a swatch as close as I could just by eye-balling some ink swatches, to put next to each name, so I can find a certain color or shade fast..

I'm really organized, don't make fun of me haha. They all are alphabetical in the vial holders too. Only thing that sucks is if I get a new one, I have to move them all over lol But I'm not letting myself acquire ANYMORE ink samples. I'm set. I have like.. 120.. I'm awful.

Next is sampling and cataloging them on actual paper.. using a dip pen and q-tip or something, to get swatches in person. I actually have a thing for sorting, categorizing, filing, etc. It keeps my brain occupied and I find it soothing ;)

You do know it's damn near impossible not to judge, right?  As a walking mess I'm not sure whether my overriding feeling was one of admiration, jealousy, or inadequacy but I am seriously impressed!  I am also strangely tempted to send you a sample of Diamine Amber so you have to move 100 bottles along :P  Don't worry though, I have not seen that bottle for a couple of months.  It's here somewhere, safely stored somewhere dark... :-[
Oh my God I would probably cry LOL. The one good thing about the obsessive order.. is that it is keeping me from wanting ANYMORE samples, unless it starts with a Z or something haha.

I hope to get myself to a pen show sometime this year. I also want to visit some local antique stores, see if I can find any awesome prices on some vintage pens.

But I mean... you do really need Diamine Oxblood which I see you do not have...
I wrote part of the letter I sent you with that ink. It's beautiful and you will want to reorganize your inkfolio just to have it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Thu, 29 October 2015, 12:16:36
Just made a rookie mistake.... I was swapping inks to write a new letter, so I emptied out my M200 into my bottle of Noodler's Aircorp Blue-Black. It was actually BungBox Ink of the Witch. I don't think it was enough to make the blue-black a shade of purple, but it would've been bad if I had put some Aircorp in my BungBox inks. Looks like I need to be a little more careful.... :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 29 October 2015, 12:22:22
Just made a rookie mistake.... I was swapping inks to write a new letter, so I emptied out my M200 into my bottle of Noodler's Aircorp Blue-Black. It was actually BungBox Ink of the Witch. I don't think it was enough to make the blue-black a shade of purple, but it would've been bad if I had put some Aircorp in my BungBox inks. Looks like I need to be a little more careful.... :))

So you took an ink from nice to awesome?  I fail to see the problem.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Thu, 29 October 2015, 14:12:48
Just made a rookie mistake.... I was swapping inks to write a new letter, so I emptied out my M200 into my bottle of Noodler's Aircorp Blue-Black. It was actually BungBox Ink of the Witch. I don't think it was enough to make the blue-black a shade of purple, but it would've been bad if I had put some Aircorp in my BungBox inks. Looks like I need to be a little more careful.... :))

So you took an ink from nice to awesome?  I fail to see the problem.

Drats. My original post didn't go through....

Yeah, it's not terrible. I haven't tried Aircorp yet, but even if it does have a slight purple hue, I wouldn't mind. It's my professional use ink. I like it as is, but having a bit more personal purple hue would be swell! Now if I would've mixed something in my BungBox ink bottles, I would've been broken. Those aren't as easy to replace if the new shade doesn't work out. 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:14:05
So I spent last night cataloging all of my ink samples on paper. The Mnemosyne word books really are perfect for ink sampling.

(http://i.imgur.com/RQedZsp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jUgWkSq.jpg)

It took a while, but was actually fun.. and soothing haha. And it was nice actually using every ink and seeing how it looks in person, as opposed to just in the bottle and online swatches.

Too bad it looks like they are discontinuing these books.. they were only $4 each from Goulet. I bought two. But it sucks that they won't have them anymore. Then again, 100 papers in each book.. that's 200.. I have a lot of ink samples, but I don't plan on going over 200 LOL.

Right now I'm finishing up my letter to THSDrummer. Frosty, you already wrote one? I will reply to yours when I get it :D And thanks a lot for making me want Oxblood.. next time I get samples.. I'll have to grab that one too I guess :P
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:24:07
So I spent last night cataloging all of my ink samples on paper. The Mnemosyne word books really are perfect for ink sampling.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RQedZsp.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jUgWkSq.jpg)


It took a while, but was actually fun.. and soothing haha. And it was nice actually using every ink and seeing how it looks in person, as opposed to just in the bottle and online swatches.

Too bad it looks like they are discontinuing these books.. they were only $4 each from Goulet. I bought two. But it sucks that they won't have them anymore. Then again, 100 papers in each book.. that's 200.. I have a lot of ink samples, but I don't plan on going over 200 LOL.

Right now I'm finishing up my letter to THSDrummer. Frosty, you already wrote one? I will reply to yours when I get it :D And thanks a lot for making me want Oxblood.. next time I get samples.. I'll have to grab that one too I guess :P

Yay! I can't wait to read your letter :)

Dang. I'll have to look up those swatches. That sure would be nicer than my index cards.... How did you put the ink on the page? Q tip?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:35:46
So I spent last night cataloging all of my ink samples on paper. The Mnemosyne word books really are perfect for ink sampling.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RQedZsp.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jUgWkSq.jpg)


It took a while, but was actually fun.. and soothing haha. And it was nice actually using every ink and seeing how it looks in person, as opposed to just in the bottle and online swatches.

Too bad it looks like they are discontinuing these books.. they were only $4 each from Goulet. I bought two. But it sucks that they won't have them anymore. Then again, 100 papers in each book.. that's 200.. I have a lot of ink samples, but I don't plan on going over 200 LOL.

Right now I'm finishing up my letter to THSDrummer. Frosty, you already wrote one? I will reply to yours when I get it :D And thanks a lot for making me want Oxblood.. next time I get samples.. I'll have to grab that one too I guess :P

Yay! I can't wait to read your letter :)

Dang. I'll have to look up those swatches. That sure would be nicer than my index cards.... How did you put the ink on the page? Q tip?
Yup, Q-tips! I went through like.. 60 of them! It was messy as hell, but really fun. And you can use the opposite side for writing samples, notes, etc. I'll leave writing samples as I use them in my pens perhaps.

The only place I can find the Mnemosyne word cards now is on Amazon.. and it's like $18 each!! They were only $4 on Goulet or on Jetpens. I wish I had bought a few more, honestly, just in case.. before they got discontinued. Maybe there's some other cheaper places to find them. They're so perfect for ink swatches. You can find a lot of reviews and blogs out there that also used them, that's how I found out about them. The paper is REALLY REALLY good and thick, no bleedthrough. They hold ink incredibly well.

I'm using a ton of different inks and pens in writing your letter, I like switching between them haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:36:10
I don't plan on going over 200 LOL.
I may or may not have gotten like 30 samples.. then went back and got 30 more samples....


Kay.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:41:38
I don't plan on going over 200 LOL.
I may or may not have gotten like 30 samples.. then went back and got 30 more samples....


Kay.

.....
I.. I don't know what you're talking about..............
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Thu, 29 October 2015, 16:59:43
So I spent last night cataloging all of my ink samples on paper. The Mnemosyne word books really are perfect for ink sampling.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RQedZsp.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jUgWkSq.jpg)


It took a while, but was actually fun.. and soothing haha. And it was nice actually using every ink and seeing how it looks in person, as opposed to just in the bottle and online swatches.

Too bad it looks like they are discontinuing these books.. they were only $4 each from Goulet. I bought two. But it sucks that they won't have them anymore. Then again, 100 papers in each book.. that's 200.. I have a lot of ink samples, but I don't plan on going over 200 LOL.

Right now I'm finishing up my letter to THSDrummer. Frosty, you already wrote one? I will reply to yours when I get it :D And thanks a lot for making me want Oxblood.. next time I get samples.. I'll have to grab that one too I guess :P

Yay! I can't wait to read your letter :)

Dang. I'll have to look up those swatches. That sure would be nicer than my index cards.... How did you put the ink on the page? Q tip?
Yup, Q-tips! I went through like.. 60 of them! It was messy as hell, but really fun. And you can use the opposite side for writing samples, notes, etc. I'll leave writing samples as I use them in my pens perhaps.

The only place I can find the Mnemosyne word cards now is on Amazon.. and it's like $18 each!! They were only $4 on Goulet or on Jetpens. I wish I had bought a few more, honestly, just in case.. before they got discontinued. Maybe there's some other cheaper places to find them. They're so perfect for ink swatches. You can find a lot of reviews and blogs out there that also used them, that's how I found out about them. The paper is REALLY REALLY good and thick, no bleedthrough. They hold ink incredibly well.

I'm using a ton of different inks and pens in writing your letter, I like switching between them haha.

Yeah, I Googled those cards right after I saw your post. I can't justify $18 for a swatch. I found an overseas seller, but after shipping, I probably wouldn't be saving anything....

I look forward to reading and looking at your letter! It sounds like it'll be quite the letter. I have a tough time using more than one ink per letter. I just wrote one with two colors. It might help if I had multiple pens so I could just grab another, but I don't. I'm thinking about picking up a Pilot Heritage 92 demonstrator in fine as my "grading" pen. Definitely picking up a bottle of Sheaffer's Skrip red and maybe Diamine Matador or Oxblood. I just hear Oxblood washed off easy. Not sure about Matador.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 30 October 2015, 22:23:55
I need more people to write to haha. I wrote three letters the last few days, I need more! I wrote one to everyone who PMed me, or am waiting on one, anyone else in the thread wanna trade letters? It's REALLY making my handwriting better already. I was gonna ask in one of the fountain pen groups too but I definitely have a lot more in common with everyone on here, so I'd prefer pen pals from here ;)

So I spent last night cataloging all of my ink samples on paper. The Mnemosyne word books really are perfect for ink sampling.

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It took a while, but was actually fun.. and soothing haha. And it was nice actually using every ink and seeing how it looks in person, as opposed to just in the bottle and online swatches.

Too bad it looks like they are discontinuing these books.. they were only $4 each from Goulet. I bought two. But it sucks that they won't have them anymore. Then again, 100 papers in each book.. that's 200.. I have a lot of ink samples, but I don't plan on going over 200 LOL.

Right now I'm finishing up my letter to THSDrummer. Frosty, you already wrote one? I will reply to yours when I get it :D And thanks a lot for making me want Oxblood.. next time I get samples.. I'll have to grab that one too I guess :P

Yay! I can't wait to read your letter :)

Dang. I'll have to look up those swatches. That sure would be nicer than my index cards.... How did you put the ink on the page? Q tip?
Yup, Q-tips! I went through like.. 60 of them! It was messy as hell, but really fun. And you can use the opposite side for writing samples, notes, etc. I'll leave writing samples as I use them in my pens perhaps.

The only place I can find the Mnemosyne word cards now is on Amazon.. and it's like $18 each!! They were only $4 on Goulet or on Jetpens. I wish I had bought a few more, honestly, just in case.. before they got discontinued. Maybe there's some other cheaper places to find them. They're so perfect for ink swatches. You can find a lot of reviews and blogs out there that also used them, that's how I found out about them. The paper is REALLY REALLY good and thick, no bleedthrough. They hold ink incredibly well.

I'm using a ton of different inks and pens in writing your letter, I like switching between them haha.

Yeah, I Googled those cards right after I saw your post. I can't justify $18 for a swatch. I found an overseas seller, but after shipping, I probably wouldn't be saving anything....

I look forward to reading and looking at your letter! It sounds like it'll be quite the letter. I have a tough time using more than one ink per letter. I just wrote one with two colors. It might help if I had multiple pens so I could just grab another, but I don't. I'm thinking about picking up a Pilot Heritage 92 demonstrator in fine as my "grading" pen. Definitely picking up a bottle of Sheaffer's Skrip red and maybe Diamine Matador or Oxblood. I just hear Oxblood washed off easy. Not sure about Matador.

I still can't believe they are discontinuing those books ugh. I'm kicking myself for not getting more, just in case. I would have sent you one :/ $18 is just ridiculous for something that was $4 bleah. I hope you get your letter soon though! I also sent out Binge's letter. How long do letters even take to get anyway? I haven't sent a letter in years, just priority mail packages which only take two days lol.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Fri, 30 October 2015, 22:57:25

I still can't believe they are discontinuing those books ugh. I'm kicking myself for not getting more, just in case. I would have sent you one :/ $18 is just ridiculous for something that was $4 bleah. I hope you get your letter soon though! I also sent out Binge's letter. How long do letters even take to get anyway? I haven't sent a letter in years, just priority mail packages which only take two days lol.

I think priority packages ship quicker than letters. At least around here. Then again, the local USPS is infamous around my college town. Letters sometimes take weeks to arrive or send to the main city ~45 minutes away by car. I mean, I'm not then only one in this town that I've talked to who has gotten multiple letters/packages time stamped weeks prior to sending just 50 miles away. Hopefully your letter arrives soon :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 30 October 2015, 23:00:31
Why not use business cards and business card binder sheets for blots?
Extremely standard stuff that will be around forever plus the grade of paper used for business cards should be good enough for fountain pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sat, 31 October 2015, 01:01:49

I still can't believe they are discontinuing those books ugh. I'm kicking myself for not getting more, just in case. I would have sent you one :/ $18 is just ridiculous for something that was $4 bleah. I hope you get your letter soon though! I also sent out Binge's letter. How long do letters even take to get anyway? I haven't sent a letter in years, just priority mail packages which only take two days lol.

I think priority packages ship quicker than letters. At least around here. Then again, the local USPS is infamous around my college town. Letters sometimes take weeks to arrive or send to the main city ~45 minutes away by car. I mean, I'm not then only one in this town that I've talked to who has gotten multiple letters/packages time stamped weeks prior to sending just 50 miles away. Hopefully your letter arrives soon :)
Oh wow.. I hope it doesn't take that long, yikes. Also, you will have to let me know if my wax seal stays on haha I used one wax on yours, a different on Binge's. I want to see if they are both flexible or not.

I asked about interest in a fountain pen FB group for pen pals, and got a whole bunch of replies. A girl in Malaysia, and one in Pakistan even! I've never sent a letter overseas, or received one, so I thought that was pretty cool :)

I also decided on a good way to try and use more inks. For each letter I send for now on, gonna stick with a color scheme. For Binge's letter that I wrote today, I used all blue inks. For the one I'm writing now, all plum and magenta type of colors. After that, all pinks muhaha. Etc etc. I like to switch between like four different inks per letter. So I'm putting together some ink "sets" to use, per letter, that actually is making me real excited about the process ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:12:04
So I'm bummed. I got a 2312 medium italic nib for my Esterbrook. Well, was out for delivery yesterday... never came. Another package went out for delivery at the same exact time, and that one got delivered. Later on that night, it updated to "Delivery status not updated"... so I guess USPS dropped it, misplaced it, lost it.. something. This is seriously about 20+ packages misdelivered or lost by UPS and USPS in a year. I've told people before about how last Christmas, UPS delivered my $500 computer monitor to the wrong house, and whoever got it kept it. Then a week later, they left 5 packages (All Christmas gifts) on our neighbors steps.. so this is nothing new.

But I've never had something just "lost" before.. usually just at the wrong house.

What really bites, is that I can't even find another 2312 nib, or even a 9312 nib, for sale anywhere. That was the last one in stock on Anderson. So now I'm sad.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:14:50
So I'm bummed. I got a 2312 medium italic nib for my Esterbrook. Well, was out for delivery yesterday... never came. Another package went out for delivery at the same exact time, and that one got delivered. Later on that night, it updated to "Delivery status not updated"... so I guess USPS dropped it, misplaced it, lost it.. something. This is seriously about 20+ packages misdelivered or lost by UPS and USPS in a year. I've told people before about how last Christmas, UPS delivered my $500 computer monitor to the wrong house, and whoever got it kept it. Then a week later, they left 5 packages (All Christmas gifts) on our neighbors steps.. so this is nothing new.

But I've never had something just "lost" before.. usually just at the wrong house.

What really bites, is that I can't even find another 2312 nib, or even a 9312 nib, for sale anywhere. That was the last one in stock on Anderson. So now I'm sad.

That really sucks. I hope you find a resolution to this problem...
I have never had problems with packages to be quite honest. It baffles me how the postal service could be so careless and how little they're actually accountable for their mistakes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:15:38
So I'm bummed. I got a 2312 medium italic nib for my Esterbrook. Well, was out for delivery yesterday... never came. Another package went out for delivery at the same exact time, and that one got delivered. Later on that night, it updated to "Delivery status not updated"... so I guess USPS dropped it, misplaced it, lost it.. something. This is seriously about 20+ packages misdelivered or lost by UPS and USPS in a year. I've told people before about how last Christmas, UPS delivered my $500 computer monitor to the wrong house, and whoever got it kept it. Then a week later, they left 5 packages (All Christmas gifts) on our neighbors steps.. so this is nothing new.

But I've never had something just "lost" before.. usually just at the wrong house.

What really bites, is that I can't even find another 2312 nib, or even a 9312 nib, for sale anywhere. That was the last one in stock on Anderson. So now I'm sad.

Give it a few days, and file a claim. I recently had a HiPro MIA from the USPS for 2 weeks (with 2 day priority shipping) and a day after I filed a claim it magically appeared where it was supposed to be. That really sucks though! This has been a bad mail year for me too  :confused:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sun, 01 November 2015, 18:24:36
This problem saddens me more than usual, since everything I've ever bought has been pretty much replaceable. But this time.. if it IS lost, even though I'll get my money back, I doubt I'll get another of that nib anytime soon :'(

It's ALWAYS a temporary person that screws up. Our normal mail lady, and our normal UPS guy are both awesome... they've been doing our route for years and they've never messed up. But every single time there's a fill in, they mess up.

The saddest part is how they constantly deliver our stuff to the same house number, but on F Street... we live on E Street. And then we get stuff for F Street at OUR house... Now I know that there's just one little line that makes the difference between an E and an F.. but even children can tell the difference between those two letters lol.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Sun, 01 November 2015, 23:16:10
http://www.isellpens.com/Ink-Sample-s/1860.htm?searching=Y&sort=1&cat=1860&show=100&page=1
By the way, Isellpens still has more samples in stock up for 25 cents to 50 cents again! And then a bunch of 75 cent ones, as well as Iroshizuku for cheaper than usual.

I'm not saying I bought anymore from them.... but.... I just wanted to let you guys know they have more in stock again.... ;) There's a bunch in stock that weren't there when I made my original orders.

Edit: Crap, actually, it looks like a lot already sold out again since I checked an hour or two ago. But there's still some random colors, and they keep updating with new stock.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 07:21:15
What really bites, is that I can't even find another 2312 nib, or even a 9312 nib, for sale anywhere. That was the last one in stock on Anderson. So now I'm sad.

This problem saddens me more than usual, since everything I've ever bought has been pretty much replaceable. But this time.. if it IS lost, even though I'll get my money back, I doubt I'll get another of that nib anytime soon :'(

I'll be going to the Ohio Pen Show in a few weeks. Brian Anderson, owner of Anderson pens, will be there. I could hunt for that nib for you at the show if you want.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 02 November 2015, 07:48:48
Dang, Syribo. I'm sorry to hear about those missing packages. I hope you can sort it out and get the nib!

I'm trying hard not to order anything. Some Iroshizuku inks would be nice. I got the Asa-gao as a mystery ink from Goulet and really enjoy it, which has me curious about their other inks. I'm trying to be pretty picky in what I order though. I don't have the cash to pick up a bunch of inks.

I'd really like to try:
Noodler's Black Swan Australian Roses
Private Reserve Ebony Purple
Noodler's Eel Cactus Fruit
Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Budo

Does anyone have any experience with those? I want to find a good purple and deep pink, as well as, a good blue. I don't own anything blue except my Noodler's Aircorp.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 November 2015, 07:51:25
Dang, Syribo. I'm sorry to hear about those missing packages. I hope you can sort it out and get the nib!

I'm trying hard not to order anything. Some Iroshizuku inks would be nice. I got the Asa-gao as a mystery ink from Goulet and really enjoy it, which has me curious about their other inks. I'm trying to be pretty picky in what I order though. I don't have the cash to pick up a bunch of inks.

I'd really like to try:
Noodler's Black Swan Australian Roses
Private Reserve Ebony Purple
Noodler's Eel Cactus Fruit
Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Budo

Does anyone have any experience with those? I want to find a good purple and deep pink, as well as, a good blue. I don't own anything blue except my Noodler's Aircorp.

Anything Iroshizuku I've had really good experiences with. Yama-budo is a lovely red wine color and I love it. I think I might try and find the 15ml bottle of it at the Ohio show. I only use purple, pink, and blue inks. My go-to purple is Noodler's North African Violet. I really like Mont Blanc Lavender too. I currently have J Herbin Diabolo Menthe loaded in a Pelikan because it looks like Tiffany Blue :D. Oh and I've got Mont Blanc Pink in my VP at work.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 02 November 2015, 11:17:35
Dang, Syribo. I'm sorry to hear about those missing packages. I hope you can sort it out and get the nib!

I'm trying hard not to order anything. Some Iroshizuku inks would be nice. I got the Asa-gao as a mystery ink from Goulet and really enjoy it, which has me curious about their other inks. I'm trying to be pretty picky in what I order though. I don't have the cash to pick up a bunch of inks.

I'd really like to try:
Noodler's Black Swan Australian Roses
Private Reserve Ebony Purple
Noodler's Eel Cactus Fruit
Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Budo

Does anyone have any experience with those? I want to find a good purple and deep pink, as well as, a good blue. I don't own anything blue except my Noodler's Aircorp.

Anything Iroshizuku I've had really good experiences with. Yama-budo is a lovely red wine color and I love it. I think I might try and find the 15ml bottle of it at the Ohio show. I only use purple, pink, and blue inks. My go-to purple is Noodler's North African Violet. I really like Mont Blanc Lavender too. I currently have J Herbin Diabolo Menthe loaded in a Pelikan because it looks like Tiffany Blue :D. Oh and I've got Mont Blanc Pink in my VP at work.

That North African Violet looks fantastic. Ohh, that Mont Blanc looks like the sort of purple I want. So many choices. I find it hard to decide on which samples to order. I'm considering ordering another round of samples, but this time for fun, not for grading purposes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 02 November 2015, 16:38:00
Dang, Syribo. I'm sorry to hear about those missing packages. I hope you can sort it out and get the nib!

I'm trying hard not to order anything. Some Iroshizuku inks would be nice. I got the Asa-gao as a mystery ink from Goulet and really enjoy it, which has me curious about their other inks. I'm trying to be pretty picky in what I order though. I don't have the cash to pick up a bunch of inks.

I'd really like to try:
Noodler's Black Swan Australian Roses
Private Reserve Ebony Purple
Noodler's Eel Cactus Fruit
Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Budo

Does anyone have any experience with those? I want to find a good purple and deep pink, as well as, a good blue. I don't own anything blue except my Noodler's Aircorp.

Anything Iroshizuku I've had really good experiences with. Yama-budo is a lovely red wine color and I love it. I think I might try and find the 15ml bottle of it at the Ohio show. I only use purple, pink, and blue inks. My go-to purple is Noodler's North African Violet. I really like Mont Blanc Lavender too. I currently have J Herbin Diabolo Menthe loaded in a Pelikan because it looks like Tiffany Blue :D. Oh and I've got Mont Blanc Pink in my VP at work.

Dang, Syribo. I'm sorry to hear about those missing packages. I hope you can sort it out and get the nib!

I'm trying hard not to order anything. Some Iroshizuku inks would be nice. I got the Asa-gao as a mystery ink from Goulet and really enjoy it, which has me curious about their other inks. I'm trying to be pretty picky in what I order though. I don't have the cash to pick up a bunch of inks.

I'd really like to try:
Noodler's Black Swan Australian Roses
Private Reserve Ebony Purple
Noodler's Eel Cactus Fruit
Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Budo

Does anyone have any experience with those? I want to find a good purple and deep pink, as well as, a good blue. I don't own anything blue except my Noodler's Aircorp.

I got my nib today!! Someone found it and put it in our mailbox.. thank goodness. I was so depressed about that at first. But of course my other two Anderson orders that were supposed to come today, and left the Flushing facility at the same exact time as my Goulet order, just never came or updated since then.. but my Goulet one came.

And OMG I looooove Yama-Budo. No lie, it's one of my favorite inks. I need a bottle of it at some point, but I have about 6ml's for now which is fine. I actually just filled up my Esterbrook with Yama-budo, and that will be the ink I always keep in it :) The 2312 italic medium nib I got is amazing.. feels so good on the paper and with the ink!!

Black Swan Australian Roses is also really really beautiful. That's another one that I need more of. I only got a 2ml sample from Goulet, because Anderson didn't have it in stock, and I've already used most of it. I'll definitely be getting a bottle of that and the Yama-budo at some point.

Eel Cactus Fruit is also gorgeous.. I've used that a lot too. I love those kind of colors. I haven't tried the Private Reserve Ebony Purple... but now I want to go look at it lol. I only have two Private Reserve inks.

I have 3 of those 50 vial holders.. and they are now full, thanks to that Isellpens sale that has been ongoing. I even have 8 vials that don't have a space now.. so I guess.. I have 158 samples, okay yeah I may have an issue argh. But hey, at least they should stay good forever (Possibly), and I use inks like a maniac haha.

Right now I have to figure out what to do about two of my Goulet nibs. I have three Jinhaos that I got 1.1mm stub nibs from Goulet to put on them. One of them is smooth and perfect. The other two are kinda "scratchy"? Like, they almost skip or put a tiny glob of ink sometimes.. they are nothing like the one smooth nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 02 November 2015, 16:39:48
I am so glad that you met your happy ending!
I have no idea what is so special about that nib, even after googling, but I can imagine that I would be heartbroken if I lost a purchase.
Any pen I buy is usually more than I get in a paycheck  :-[
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 02 November 2015, 16:42:49
I am so glad that you met your happy ending!
I have no idea what is so special about that nib, even after googling, but I can imagine that I would be heartbroken if I lost a purchase.
Any pen I buy is usually more than I get in a paycheck  :-[
I just love stub nibs haha. And I really wanted one for my Esterbrook, but since they're vintage, they're really hard to find.. Couldn't find a single one in stock anywhere. And it writes like a dream :)

By the way! I just got your letter and read it.. Holy crap your handwriting is ridiculously good.. I'm afraid to write back now LOL. Mine isn't atrocious but it is no where near the level of yours. Now I'm all self conscious :P I'll be writing your letter tonight or in the morning and will let ya know as soon as it goes out :)

BTW... Oxblood really IS beautiful... I'm glad I DID end up getting a sample of it ;) Enabler.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 02 November 2015, 16:50:15
I am so glad that you met your happy ending!
I have no idea what is so special about that nib, even after googling, but I can imagine that I would be heartbroken if I lost a purchase.
Any pen I buy is usually more than I get in a paycheck  :-[
I just love stub nibs haha. And I really wanted one for my Esterbrook, but since they're vintage, they're really hard to find.. Couldn't find a single one in stock anywhere. And it writes like a dream :)

By the way! I just got your letter and read it.. Holy crap your handwriting is ridiculously good.. I'm afraid to write back now LOL. Mine isn't atrocious but it is no where near the level of yours. Now I'm all self conscious :P I'll be writing your letter tonight or in the morning and will let ya know as soon as it goes out :)

BTW... Oxblood really IS beautiful... I'm glad I DID end up getting a sample of it ;) Enabler.

That's kind of funny about my writing haha.
I caught a glimpse of your writing on your ink samples and I was the one who got a little jealous
Maybe I'm just so familiar with my own writing that I can see where I go wrong; whereas I don't quite know the writing of another well enough to know what it should look like, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 02 November 2015, 18:25:45
Dang, Syribo. I'm sorry to hear about those missing packages. I hope you can sort it out and get the nib!

I'm trying hard not to order anything. Some Iroshizuku inks would be nice. I got the Asa-gao as a mystery ink from Goulet and really enjoy it, which has me curious about their other inks. I'm trying to be pretty picky in what I order though. I don't have the cash to pick up a bunch of inks.

I'd really like to try:
Noodler's Black Swan Australian Roses
Private Reserve Ebony Purple
Noodler's Eel Cactus Fruit
Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Budo

Does anyone have any experience with those? I want to find a good purple and deep pink, as well as, a good blue. I don't own anything blue except my Noodler's Aircorp.

I got my nib today!! Someone found it and put it in our mailbox.. thank goodness. I was so depressed about that at first. But of course my other two Anderson orders that were supposed to come today, and left the Flushing facility at the same exact time as my Goulet order, just never came or updated since then.. but my Goulet one came.

And OMG I looooove Yama-Budo. No lie, it's one of my favorite inks. I need a bottle of it at some point, but I have about 6ml's for now which is fine. I actually just filled up my Esterbrook with Yama-budo, and that will be the ink I always keep in it :) The 2312 italic medium nib I got is amazing.. feels so good on the paper and with the ink!!

Black Swan Australian Roses is also really really beautiful. That's another one that I need more of. I only got a 2ml sample from Goulet, because Anderson didn't have it in stock, and I've already used most of it. I'll definitely be getting a bottle of that and the Yama-budo at some point.

Eel Cactus Fruit is also gorgeous.. I've used that a lot too. I love those kind of colors. I haven't tried the Private Reserve Ebony Purple... but now I want to go look at it lol. I only have two Private Reserve inks.

I have 3 of those 50 vial holders.. and they are now full, thanks to that Isellpens sale that has been ongoing. I even have 8 vials that don't have a space now.. so I guess.. I have 158 samples, okay yeah I may have an issue argh. But hey, at least they should stay good forever (Possibly), and I use inks like a maniac haha.

Right now I have to figure out what to do about two of my Goulet nibs. I have three Jinhaos that I got 1.1mm stub nibs from Goulet to put on them. One of them is smooth and perfect. The other two are kinda "scratchy"? Like, they almost skip or put a tiny glob of ink sometimes.. they are nothing like the one smooth nib.

Haha, sounds like we are thinking along the same lines for ink. You should send me a letter with a sample of Yama-Budo, Black Swan Australian Roses, and Eeel Cactus Fruit ;) Unfortunately, they don't have any of the inks I really desire trying at the iSellPens sale. By the time I got to it the first time, they were out. I'll probably order a bottle of red sometime this winter to ink up as my grading ink. I might pick up a few samples then. I'd love to pick up a Heritage 92 demonstrator as my grading pen, but I might just wait and get it as a "congrats on the job" pen. I just can't fathom getting anything besides a demonstrator. I love seeing the ink in the barrel swishing around.

As far as the Ebony Purple goes, I enjoy the idea of an ink I can use in a professional sense, but still have a little fun with it.

Now I'm curious about flex nib pens too. I like staying pretty thin and standard with my nibs, but it'd be fun to play around with some fancy writing. Any experience with the Noodler's Ahab Flex pen? Or should I pick up a stub nibbed pen?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:32:32
Dang, Syribo. I'm sorry to hear about those missing packages. I hope you can sort it out and get the nib!

I'm trying hard not to order anything. Some Iroshizuku inks would be nice. I got the Asa-gao as a mystery ink from Goulet and really enjoy it, which has me curious about their other inks. I'm trying to be pretty picky in what I order though. I don't have the cash to pick up a bunch of inks.

I'd really like to try:
Noodler's Black Swan Australian Roses
Private Reserve Ebony Purple
Noodler's Eel Cactus Fruit
Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-Budo

Does anyone have any experience with those? I want to find a good purple and deep pink, as well as, a good blue. I don't own anything blue except my Noodler's Aircorp.

I got my nib today!! Someone found it and put it in our mailbox.. thank goodness. I was so depressed about that at first. But of course my other two Anderson orders that were supposed to come today, and left the Flushing facility at the same exact time as my Goulet order, just never came or updated since then.. but my Goulet one came.

And OMG I looooove Yama-Budo. No lie, it's one of my favorite inks. I need a bottle of it at some point, but I have about 6ml's for now which is fine. I actually just filled up my Esterbrook with Yama-budo, and that will be the ink I always keep in it :) The 2312 italic medium nib I got is amazing.. feels so good on the paper and with the ink!!

Black Swan Australian Roses is also really really beautiful. That's another one that I need more of. I only got a 2ml sample from Goulet, because Anderson didn't have it in stock, and I've already used most of it. I'll definitely be getting a bottle of that and the Yama-budo at some point.

Eel Cactus Fruit is also gorgeous.. I've used that a lot too. I love those kind of colors. I haven't tried the Private Reserve Ebony Purple... but now I want to go look at it lol. I only have two Private Reserve inks.

I have 3 of those 50 vial holders.. and they are now full, thanks to that Isellpens sale that has been ongoing. I even have 8 vials that don't have a space now.. so I guess.. I have 158 samples, okay yeah I may have an issue argh. But hey, at least they should stay good forever (Possibly), and I use inks like a maniac haha.

Right now I have to figure out what to do about two of my Goulet nibs. I have three Jinhaos that I got 1.1mm stub nibs from Goulet to put on them. One of them is smooth and perfect. The other two are kinda "scratchy"? Like, they almost skip or put a tiny glob of ink sometimes.. they are nothing like the one smooth nib.

Haha, sounds like we are thinking along the same lines for ink. You should send me a letter with a sample of Yama-Budo, Black Swan Australian Roses, and Eeel Cactus Fruit ;) Unfortunately, they don't have any of the inks I really desire trying at the iSellPens sale. By the time I got to it the first time, they were out. I'll probably order a bottle of red sometime this winter to ink up as my grading ink. I might pick up a few samples then. I'd love to pick up a Heritage 92 demonstrator as my grading pen, but I might just wait and get it as a "congrats on the job" pen. I just can't fathom getting anything besides a demonstrator. I love seeing the ink in the barrel swishing around.

As far as the Ebony Purple goes, I enjoy the idea of an ink I can use in a professional sense, but still have a little fun with it.

Now I'm curious about flex nib pens too. I like staying pretty thin and standard with my nibs, but it'd be fun to play around with some fancy writing. Any experience with the Noodler's Ahab Flex pen? Or should I pick up a stub nibbed pen?
I can't remember if I used Yama-budo in your letter or not.. I am pretty sure I did. Next time I will also write with the BS Australian Roses and Eel Cactus Fruit as well! I actually am loving demonstrators as well.. I really like my Lamy Vista, and I got a TWSBI Eco to see what all the fuss is with the TWSBI pens haha.

I have an Ahab, and it's pretty fun.. when it behaves. At first, I didn't love it.. but it's gotten a lot better over time.
(http://i.imgur.com/Fqs39zM.jpg)
Here's some messing around with it with some Diamine Soft Mint. I only had to fill in two spots in this writing sample. I can get it to draw really thick lines now, whereas when I first got it, it would rail road A LOT. I still like stub nibs way more. I now own 7 stub nib pens. Three others are medium, one is a fine.. and I rarely use those four anymore. I just love how stub nibs write :) They make my handwriting look a lot better than thin nibs.

Cheapest stub nib (That I knnow of) would be a Jinhao with a Goulet or Anderson nib. Cheaper than getting something like a Safari and a Lamy stub nib to replace it with. Or a TWSBI Eco with a stub.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:49:29
Haha, sounds like we are thinking along the same lines for ink. You should send me a letter with a sample of Yama-Budo, Black Swan Australian Roses, and Eeel Cactus Fruit ;) Unfortunately, they don't have any of the inks I really desire trying at the iSellPens sale. By the time I got to it the first time, they were out. I'll probably order a bottle of red sometime this winter to ink up as my grading ink. I might pick up a few samples then. I'd love to pick up a Heritage 92 demonstrator as my grading pen, but I might just wait and get it as a "congrats on the job" pen. I just can't fathom getting anything besides a demonstrator. I love seeing the ink in the barrel swishing around.

As far as the Ebony Purple goes, I enjoy the idea of an ink I can use in a professional sense, but still have a little fun with it.

Now I'm curious about flex nib pens too. I like staying pretty thin and standard with my nibs, but it'd be fun to play around with some fancy writing. Any experience with the Noodler's Ahab Flex pen? Or should I pick up a stub nibbed pen?
I can't remember if I used Yama-budo in your letter or not.. I am pretty sure I did. Next time I will also write with the BS Australian Roses and Eel Cactus Fruit as well! I actually am loving demonstrators as well.. I really like my Lamy Vista, and I got a TWSBI Eco to see what all the fuss is with the TWSBI pens haha.

I have an Ahab, and it's pretty fun.. when it behaves. At first, I didn't love it.. but it's gotten a lot better over time.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Fqs39zM.jpg)

Here's some messing around with it with some Diamine Soft Mint. I only had to fill in two spots in this writing sample. I can get it to draw really thick lines now, whereas when I first got it, it would rail road A LOT. I still like stub nibs way more. I now own 7 stub nib pens. Three others are medium, one is a fine.. and I rarely use those four anymore. I just love how stub nibs write :) They make my handwriting look a lot better than thin nibs.

Cheapest stub nib (That I knnow of) would be a Jinhao with a Goulet or Anderson nib. Cheaper than getting something like a Safari and a Lamy stub nib to replace it with. Or a TWSBI Eco with a stub.

Ohh, that's a beautiful ink. I was really hoping to find a good mint colored ink. I think aqua blue is one of my favorite colors by far. Not too manly, but I like it. How's the ECO stub? I have a Vac700 (medium and extra fine, but only one pen). I like the extra fine because it makes me focus on my writing. It doesn't hide anything. But I'm between getting a flex and stub nib. I like Lamy's, but I'm not a fan of converter's in demonstrators. I like the idea of the ink filling up the barrel, instead of being held in a little tube within a separate tube.

Please, label the inks whenever you write me :) I'll be looking for that Yama-Budo in your letter!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:09:20
I just wanted to share with you guys one of my favourite words to write.
(http://i.imgur.com/Ka2kj5D.jpg?1)
I made a little boo boo with the last one but you can see that even with the most minimum effort you can make something so mesmeric.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:16:24
I just wanted to share with you guys one of my favourite words to write.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Ka2kj5D.jpg?1)

I made a little boo boo with the last one but you can see that even with the most minimum effort you can make something so mesmeric.

Wow. That's clean. How do you work on the different style fonts? I've just put a lot of focus into generic cursive, just with my own way to form certain letters. It's what I use to write letters and write for fun, but it'd be nice to be able to do some fancy, bold lettering for invites and extra flair in my letters and such.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:20:10
I just wanted to share with you guys one of my favourite words to write.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ka2kj5D.jpg?1)

I made a little boo boo with the last one but you can see that even with the most minimum effort you can make something so mesmeric.

Wow. That's clean. How do you work on the different style fonts? I've just put a lot of focus into generic cursive, just with my own way to form certain letters. It's what I use to write letters and write for fun, but it'd be nice to be able to do some fancy, bold lettering for invites and extra flair in my letters and such.

The first font is really something that I don't know how to do at all. The letters I used are so simple and cut/paste that I can work with it.
The second is just normal cursive with some flex and and a perpendicular angle.
In the third photo it's really just the second but on a slant.
The last one is actually the same application of the first in that there are repeated shapes. It's just that instead of a vertical line, I use a swoosh that you would see in copperplate.

I honestly only know one form of cursive which is my imitation copperplate. I only call it imitation because it lacks flex and I have my own take on certain letters.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:23:47
Haha, sounds like we are thinking along the same lines for ink. You should send me a letter with a sample of Yama-Budo, Black Swan Australian Roses, and Eeel Cactus Fruit ;) Unfortunately, they don't have any of the inks I really desire trying at the iSellPens sale. By the time I got to it the first time, they were out. I'll probably order a bottle of red sometime this winter to ink up as my grading ink. I might pick up a few samples then. I'd love to pick up a Heritage 92 demonstrator as my grading pen, but I might just wait and get it as a "congrats on the job" pen. I just can't fathom getting anything besides a demonstrator. I love seeing the ink in the barrel swishing around.

As far as the Ebony Purple goes, I enjoy the idea of an ink I can use in a professional sense, but still have a little fun with it.

Now I'm curious about flex nib pens too. I like staying pretty thin and standard with my nibs, but it'd be fun to play around with some fancy writing. Any experience with the Noodler's Ahab Flex pen? Or should I pick up a stub nibbed pen?
I can't remember if I used Yama-budo in your letter or not.. I am pretty sure I did. Next time I will also write with the BS Australian Roses and Eel Cactus Fruit as well! I actually am loving demonstrators as well.. I really like my Lamy Vista, and I got a TWSBI Eco to see what all the fuss is with the TWSBI pens haha.

I have an Ahab, and it's pretty fun.. when it behaves. At first, I didn't love it.. but it's gotten a lot better over time.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Fqs39zM.jpg)

Here's some messing around with it with some Diamine Soft Mint. I only had to fill in two spots in this writing sample. I can get it to draw really thick lines now, whereas when I first got it, it would rail road A LOT. I still like stub nibs way more. I now own 7 stub nib pens. Three others are medium, one is a fine.. and I rarely use those four anymore. I just love how stub nibs write :) They make my handwriting look a lot better than thin nibs.

Cheapest stub nib (That I knnow of) would be a Jinhao with a Goulet or Anderson nib. Cheaper than getting something like a Safari and a Lamy stub nib to replace it with. Or a TWSBI Eco with a stub.

Ohh, that's a beautiful ink. I was really hoping to find a good mint colored ink. I think aqua blue is one of my favorite colors by far. Not too manly, but I like it. How's the ECO stub? I have a Vac700 (medium and extra fine, but only one pen). I like the extra fine because it makes me focus on my writing. It doesn't hide anything. But I'm between getting a flex and stub nib. I like Lamy's, but I'm not a fan of converter's in demonstrators. I like the idea of the ink filling up the barrel, instead of being held in a little tube within a separate tube.

Please, label the inks whenever you write me :) I'll be looking for that Yama-Budo in your letter!
Soft Mint is awesome, I know CPTBadAss loves it too. And don't worry, I am pretty sure I wrote the name of every color I used in the letter :) Ah you're right about the converter in a demonstrator thing.. it is a lot prettier when the ink is actually in the barrel. I didn't get the TWSBI yet, I got that with the ink samples from Isellpens. Should have it in a few days. Trying to think of which color would look prettiest in it.. I really wanted the white one instead of black, but I know I would get it all stained with ink, so I played it safe and went with black.

I just wanted to share with you guys one of my favourite words to write.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ka2kj5D.jpg?1)

I made a little boo boo with the last one but you can see that even with the most minimum effort you can make something so mesmeric.

Hahaha minimum really is the most fun word to write. I randomly find myself writing it too, just because it looks so cool and pretty lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: dohbot on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:25:30
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Translation: Keyboards weren't much of a choice for me more of, I can't write, might as well type!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:29:55
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Translation: Keyboards weren't much of a choice for me more of, I can't write, might as well type!

Perhaps your writing is a mess but all it takes is practice!
My writing looked like yours at some point in time. I just consciously took an effort to make it legible enough. Not pretty, just legible.
Then, only about 2 years ago, I actually started to take writing more seriously. I only recently picked up cursive and now I get compliments from a decent amount of people and it is a joy to hear such words.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: dohbot on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:34:24
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Translation: Keyboards weren't much of a choice for me more of, I can't write, might as well type!

Perhaps your writing is a mess but all it takes is practice!
My writing looked like yours at some point in time. I just consciously took an effort to make it legible enough. Not pretty, just legible.
Then, only about 2 years ago, I actually started to take writing more seriously. I only recently picked up cursive and now I get compliments from a decent amount of people and it is a joy to hear such words.

I would but that would take away my excuse to use fun keyboards.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:36:58
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Translation: Keyboards weren't much of a choice for me more of, I can't write, might as well type!

Perhaps your writing is a mess but all it takes is practice!
My writing looked like yours at some point in time. I just consciously took an effort to make it legible enough. Not pretty, just legible.
Then, only about 2 years ago, I actually started to take writing more seriously. I only recently picked up cursive and now I get compliments from a decent amount of people and it is a joy to hear such words.

I would but that would take away my excuse to use fun keyboards.

My excuse for having pens and keyboards is that no matter what, I always enjoy my writing experience.
If I am writing notes in class, I don't long to be reunited with my keyboards, and when I'm on my computer I still enjoy my feeling!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: dohbot on Mon, 02 November 2015, 20:44:05
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Translation: Keyboards weren't much of a choice for me more of, I can't write, might as well type!

Perhaps your writing is a mess but all it takes is practice!
My writing looked like yours at some point in time. I just consciously took an effort to make it legible enough. Not pretty, just legible.
Then, only about 2 years ago, I actually started to take writing more seriously. I only recently picked up cursive and now I get compliments from a decent number of people and it is a joy to hear such words.

I would but that would take away my excuse to use fun keyboards.

My excuse for having pens and keyboards is that no matter what, I always enjoy my writing experience.
If I am writing notes in class, I don't long to be reunited with my keyboards, and when I'm on my computer I still enjoy my feeling!

I bought a few fountain pens, but I keep bending the nibs on accident by pushing a bit too hard (okay far too hard). And I own three fisher space pens, I am trying to convince myself to get the really cool matte black metal rollerball pen somewhere on the pens subreddit. EDIT: BigiDesign XTS Titanium
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Mon, 02 November 2015, 21:11:05
(http://i.imgur.com/J5GO2lR.jpg)
Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: BlueNalgene on Mon, 02 November 2015, 22:34:32
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

I have trays like that, but they are full of my science.  Have you considered some sort of group therapy?  They might even have a correspondence version.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clochette on Tue, 03 November 2015, 05:05:25
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

oh wow, thats alot of samples

any favourites to share?

i'm currently on pilot iroshizuku, probably the smoothest i've tried so far
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 03 November 2015, 05:29:50
How do you work on the different style fonts?
Just nitpicking a little: when talking about handwriting, you don't have different style fonts, you have different style hands.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 04 November 2015, 02:37:34
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

I have trays like that, but they are full of my science.  Have you considered some sort of group therapy?  They might even have a correspondence version.
Correspondence Anonymous.. has a nice ring to it. Maybe I can start a group myself.

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(http://i.imgur.com/J5GO2lR.jpg)

Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

oh wow, thats alot of samples

any favourites to share?

i'm currently on pilot iroshizuku, probably the smoothest i've tried so far
Iroshizuku is amazing. Yama-budo is one of my favorite inks, if not my favorite. I'm also in love with Sailor Yama-dori, Diamine Marine, Diamine Hope Pink, J. Herbin Rose tendresse and of course, Emerald of Chivor.

Noodler's Sanguro Wine and Black Swan Australian Roses are another two current favorites.

I have quite a few more samples coming in that I have to swatch and catalog... damn that ink sample sale. I might need a fourth rack... God help me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: clochette on Wed, 04 November 2015, 03:05:56
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

oh wow, thats alot of samples

any favourites to share?

i'm currently on pilot iroshizuku, probably the smoothest i've tried so far
Iroshizuku is amazing. Yama-budo is one of my favorite inks, if not my favorite. I'm also in love with Sailor Yama-dori, Diamine Marine, Diamine Hope Pink, J. Herbin Rose tendresse and of course, Emerald of Chivor.

Noodler's Sanguro Wine and Black Swan Australian Roses are another two current favorites.

I have quite a few more samples coming in that I have to swatch and catalog... damn that ink sample sale. I might need a fourth rack... God help me.
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I have tried Diamine, but nowhere close compared to Iroshizuku. Would definitely like to try out the rest you have listed..

I recall there was a monthly sample drop box for inks am I right?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 04 November 2015, 05:24:55
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

oh wow, thats alot of samples

any favourites to share?

i'm currently on pilot iroshizuku, probably the smoothest i've tried so far
Iroshizuku is amazing. Yama-budo is one of my favorite inks, if not my favorite. I'm also in love with Sailor Yama-dori, Diamine Marine, Diamine Hope Pink, J. Herbin Rose tendresse and of course, Emerald of Chivor.

Noodler's Sanguro Wine and Black Swan Australian Roses are another two current favorites.

I have quite a few more samples coming in that I have to swatch and catalog... damn that ink sample sale. I might need a fourth rack... God help me.

I have tried Diamine, but nowhere close compared to Iroshizuku. Would definitely like to try out the rest you have listed..

I recall there was a monthly sample drop box for inks am I right?
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I would say Iroshizuku is one of the best brands I've tried by far. Take-sumi is my favorite black ink too so far. You must try Yama-budo if you like that color ink :)

Goulet has a monthly ink drop. I think it's $10 and you get 5 samples. While the surprise factor seems fun.. I just can't justify the cost. Goulet samples are 2ml, whereas Anderson gives 3ml for the same price that Goulet charges. So that's $2 a sample from Goulet for the drop.. and they're only 2ml. I have only gotten a few samples from Goulet because of the difference in volume.. but the majority of mine are all from Anderson and Isellpens (Who also give 3ml, and some of my samples were actually a little more full than 3ml!).

So I would say to get samples from Anderson :) I've spent so much money at their website, dear God.... They probably think I'm nuts LOL.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Wed, 04 November 2015, 07:53:52
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

Wow. I dig it though! That's awesome. And at 25 or 50 cents a pop, that really isn't bad. I can't bring myself to buy samples right now because I'd drop $30 I don't have on just 15-18 samples. Oh well.

And your letter arrived yesterday! Talk about ink demonstration. Two of the four inks were inks I was considering, and now seeming them on the page has me thinking I need to pick them up ASAP. As well as a stub nib. The wax seal was intact and holding when the letter arrived as well.

How do you work on the different style fonts?
Just nitpicking a little: when talking about handwriting, you don't have different style fonts, you have different style hands.

Ohh, okay. I really didn't know! But it's good to know now so I can speak the language better. Thank you!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Wed, 04 November 2015, 07:58:13
I would say Iroshizuku is one of the best brands I've tried by far. Take-sumi is my favorite black ink too so far. You must try Yama-budo if you like that color ink :)
So I would say to get samples from Anderson :) I've spent so much money at their website, dear God.... They probably think I'm nuts LOL.

...and ordered. I was going to ask for a recommendation on a black ink, but you've already given one - and seeing as how you have sampled so many inks, I feel it is one I should listen to. I also just purchased my second pen - a Pelikan 205 in amethyst to go with it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 04 November 2015, 07:59:24
Iroshizuku is considered "elite" inks, Diamine is more know for their quality-to-price rate and archival series (recommended for use here in the UK).

By the way, I just bought a Platinum PTL-5000 and find its nib too draggy and in need of smoothing :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Wed, 04 November 2015, 09:21:17
For a nicely behaved, permanent black, try Sailor Kiwaguro. Slightly higher maintenance as its a nano-pigment ink, but the degree of water and light fastness once the ink dries is pretty amazing.

I like Iroshizuku (and the Sailor stuff, which performs similarly at comparably lower prices) alot, but having days of notes become pages of smudges after getting caught in a light drizzle made me stop using them, except for the less important stuff.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Wed, 04 November 2015, 18:23:44
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

Wow. I dig it though! That's awesome. And at 25 or 50 cents a pop, that really isn't bad. I can't bring myself to buy samples right now because I'd drop $30 I don't have on just 15-18 samples. Oh well.

And your letter arrived yesterday! Talk about ink demonstration. Two of the four inks were inks I was considering, and now seeming them on the page has me thinking I need to pick them up ASAP. As well as a stub nib. The wax seal was intact and holding when the letter arrived as well.
Oh yay!! That's awesome news that the seal held up.. It really IS flexible wax as it specified :) I have an initial seal to use too next time, haven't used it yet.

What other inks did I use, I can't remember now LOL. After your letter, I decided to stick to one color for every letter. Use either a bunch of blue shades, a bunch of purple, a bunch of pink, etc. It seems to flow better :) I used Yama-budo, right? God I love that ink. That's one ink that I eventually definitely will need a bottle of. I hope my handwriting was legible for you haha.

My two Anderson orders from last week are still just stuck in transit somewhere.. still no update after leaving the Flushing facility on Sunday :( I've never had something take THAT long without an update. Even my nib that was lost somewhere got to me quicker. I think I realized what the issue is. For some reason, my Paypal address had my street as "e street" with a lowercase e, instead of "E Street". Maybe that caused some kind of issues at the sorting places.

I also got some 1/2" round labels to put on top of my bottles with a swatch of each. Make it even EASIER to find colors randomly haha. Also going to have a ton of new swatch cards to do when my orders get here.. I really am going to use up all those Mnemosyne word book sheets, yikes. Now I'm really kicking myself that I didn't get a third just in case.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Wed, 04 November 2015, 18:35:36
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Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

Wow. I dig it though! That's awesome. And at 25 or 50 cents a pop, that really isn't bad. I can't bring myself to buy samples right now because I'd drop $30 I don't have on just 15-18 samples. Oh well.

And your letter arrived yesterday! Talk about ink demonstration. Two of the four inks were inks I was considering, and now seeming them on the page has me thinking I need to pick them up ASAP. As well as a stub nib. The wax seal was intact and holding when the letter arrived as well.
Oh yay!! That's awesome news that the seal held up.. It really IS flexible wax as it specified :) I have an initial seal to use too next time, haven't used it yet.

What other inks did I use, I can't remember now LOL. After your letter, I decided to stick to one color for every letter. Use either a bunch of blue shades, a bunch of purple, a bunch of pink, etc. It seems to flow better :) I used Yama-budo, right? God I love that ink. That's one ink that I eventually definitely will need a bottle of. I hope my handwriting was legible for you haha.

My two Anderson orders from last week are still just stuck in transit somewhere.. still no update after leaving the Flushing facility on Sunday :( I've never had something take THAT long without an update. Even my nib that was lost somewhere got to me quicker. I think I realized what the issue is. For some reason, my Paypal address had my street as "e street" with a lowercase e, instead of "E Street". Maybe that caused some kind of issues at the sorting places.

I also got some 1/2" round labels to put on top of my bottles with a swatch of each. Make it even EASIER to find colors randomly haha. Also going to have a ton of new swatch cards to do when my orders get here.. I really am going to use up all those Mnemosyne word book sheets, yikes. Now I'm really kicking myself that I didn't get a third just in case.

You used Emerald of Chivor, Diamine Purple Pazzazz, Yama-budo, and J. Herbin Rose Tendresse. I certainly feel like I need the first three now. At least the Emerald and Yama-budo. It's been settled. I'll be buying a bottle of those at some point. I heard you were staying to one color. I'm looking forward to seeing it! I'll be writing you back soon. I'm going to a soccer match tonight though. I'll certainly be able to write tomorrow.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Booper on Thu, 05 November 2015, 13:50:53
Apparently it's almost fountain pen day! (http://www.fountainpenday.org/)

...as if every day isn't fountain pen day!?  :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 05 November 2015, 16:03:09
Apparently it's almost fountain pen day! (http://www.fountainpenday.org/)

...as if every day isn't fountain pen day!?  :p

I got in my order from that site you recommended me today! 8 different inks, cleaning supplies, and a few notebooks :D

Sadly it came right as I was leaving for work so I had zero time to play with it all :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 05 November 2015, 18:34:54
Apparently it's almost fountain pen day! (http://www.fountainpenday.org/)

...as if every day isn't fountain pen day!?  :p

Oh hey it's been Fountain Pen Day here for just over eleven and a half hours!

Yay fountain pens :)

/me brandishes his humble Pilot V-Pen
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 05 November 2015, 21:02:37
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/J5GO2lR.jpg)

Guys.. I don't have an ink problem.. I swear.. Nothing excessive about this..

..And I already have all the spots empty waiting for the Isellpens samples still on the way, in alphabetical order of course. In my defense, the majority of my samples are all from that sale and were only 25 or 50 cents... :x

Wow. I dig it though! That's awesome. And at 25 or 50 cents a pop, that really isn't bad. I can't bring myself to buy samples right now because I'd drop $30 I don't have on just 15-18 samples. Oh well.

And your letter arrived yesterday! Talk about ink demonstration. Two of the four inks were inks I was considering, and now seeming them on the page has me thinking I need to pick them up ASAP. As well as a stub nib. The wax seal was intact and holding when the letter arrived as well.
Oh yay!! That's awesome news that the seal held up.. It really IS flexible wax as it specified :) I have an initial seal to use too next time, haven't used it yet.

What other inks did I use, I can't remember now LOL. After your letter, I decided to stick to one color for every letter. Use either a bunch of blue shades, a bunch of purple, a bunch of pink, etc. It seems to flow better :) I used Yama-budo, right? God I love that ink. That's one ink that I eventually definitely will need a bottle of. I hope my handwriting was legible for you haha.

My two Anderson orders from last week are still just stuck in transit somewhere.. still no update after leaving the Flushing facility on Sunday :( I've never had something take THAT long without an update. Even my nib that was lost somewhere got to me quicker. I think I realized what the issue is. For some reason, my Paypal address had my street as "e street" with a lowercase e, instead of "E Street". Maybe that caused some kind of issues at the sorting places.

I also got some 1/2" round labels to put on top of my bottles with a swatch of each. Make it even EASIER to find colors randomly haha. Also going to have a ton of new swatch cards to do when my orders get here.. I really am going to use up all those Mnemosyne word book sheets, yikes. Now I'm really kicking myself that I didn't get a third just in case.

You used Emerald of Chivor, Diamine Purple Pazzazz, Yama-budo, and J. Herbin Rose Tendresse. I certainly feel like I need the first three now. At least the Emerald and Yama-budo. It's been settled. I'll be buying a bottle of those at some point. I heard you were staying to one color. I'm looking forward to seeing it! I'll be writing you back soon. I'm going to a soccer match tonight though. I'll certainly be able to write tomorrow.
Emerald of Chivor is so gorgeous. Only thing I hate, is that when the gold flecks settle in the pen, the ink just comes out looking like a regular flat color. Still a nice color though, it's a lot like Sailor Yama-dori. But I wish the flecks stayed more consistent for me haha. Can't wait for the next letter :D Already ready to write another!

Apparently it's almost fountain pen day! (http://www.fountainpenday.org/)

...as if every day isn't fountain pen day!?  :p

Apparently it's almost fountain pen day! (http://www.fountainpenday.org/)

...as if every day isn't fountain pen day!?  :p

I got in my order from that site you recommended me today! 8 different inks, cleaning supplies, and a few notebooks :D

Sadly it came right as I was leaving for work so I had zero time to play with it all :(

Ohh what site? Not that I need anymore pen-related sites to look at...


The rest of my Isellpens stuff gets here tomorrow. A few more samples and the Eco. But I FINALLY got my other two orders from Anderson that were lost in traffic. Finally have a case to hold my pens instead of having to constantly gather them up all over the place yay. Also, getting some Tomoe River paper to FINALLY try.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 08:01:00
Fountain Pen Day is here and there's lots of sales and content being pushed out. Edison is doing a little thing where if you buy one of their pens, you can get a free nib grind. So once again....I went to drool over the pump filler Menlo in clear cobalt blue.

I've had the chance to write with the Menlo twice. Both times it was at the Edison booth at a show. Brian and Andrea are so nice and knowledgeable. And he invents his own filling systems! I could watch this gif all day.

(http://edisonpen.com/userfiles/image/Menlo%20Filling%20GIF.gif)

More info on the Menlo pump filling system (http://edisonpen.com/index.cfm/2013/08/01/introducing-the-menlo-pump-filler)



In the spirit of the day, what's everyone been using their pens for lately? I've been addressing envelopes for tactile (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70769.0) and taking work notes. I owe Syribo a letter as well :(.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:06:46
I write and draw with my pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 09:10:12
I write and draw with my pens.

I know I saw those lovely animal pictures you posted previously but you said those were from a friend right? Do you have any drawings of your own?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:09:40
Speaking of drawing with pens.  Just gonna leave this here because I doubt the owner will post the image.

Kudos gifted me with some Snackeys, and I had to give him a thank you :)

(http://i.imgur.com/2L67qFw.png)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:28:23
Speaking of drawing with pens.  Just gonna leave this here because I doubt the owner will post the image.

Kudos gifted me with some Snackeys, and I had to give him a thank you :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2L67qFw.png)


That's awesome! I don't do much drawing except the occasional DragonBall Z character. I do write a personal thank you note to anyone who buys or trades and artisan with me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:29:06
Speaking of drawing with pens.  Just gonna leave this here because I doubt the owner will post the image.

Kudos gifted me with some Snackeys, and I had to give him a thank you :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2L67qFw.png)


I really like the drawing but I'm a little confused. That's an odd depiction of Navi.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 November 2015, 10:56:28
Syribo, you should get a Yink, I think.


"This one, I think, is called a Yink.
He likes to wink. He likes to drink.
He likes to drink, and drink, and drink.
The thing he likes to drink is ink.
The ink he likes to drink is pink.
He likes to wink and drink pink ink.
So, if you have a lot of ink,
Then you should get a Yink, I think."

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Fri, 06 November 2015, 12:53:00
I got a Medium nib Pilot Metropolitan and a bottle of J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche ink for my birthday. This is somewhat useless because my handwriting is terrible due to coordination problems and I never actually write anything, but I've been noodling about with it anyway because this ink is really pretty lol. I want more pretty ink but I have no idea what I'd even do with it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 06 November 2015, 15:14:32
I write and draw with my pens.

I know I saw those lovely animal pictures you posted previously but you said those were from a friend right? Do you have any drawings of your own?
Yes.

(https://pp.vk.me/c628231/v628231724/1d7d7/K_Nxl5W3yMk.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 06 November 2015, 15:29:07
I write and draw with my pens.

I know I saw those lovely animal pictures you posted previously but you said those were from a friend right? Do you have any drawings of your own?
Yes.

Show Image
(https://pp.vk.me/c628231/v628231724/1d7d7/K_Nxl5W3yMk.jpg)


Damn I look posh in that drawing <3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:36:04
Happy Fountain Pen Day................Fountain Pen and Ink Lovers :cool:

(https://frombehindthepen.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/fountain-pen-day.png?w=300&h=223)(http://www.vintagepen.net/uploads/2/6/7/4/2674760/6339705.jpg?636)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:39:50
Speaking of drawing with pens.  Just gonna leave this here because I doubt the owner will post the image.

Kudos gifted me with some Snackeys, and I had to give him a thank you :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2L67qFw.png)

That looks so awesome. I need to try doodling and drawing with my pens sometime, I haven't.. I always stick to pencil or marker. I hope you get my letter sometime soon, you should :) You'll have to let me know if the wax seal gets there intact. I used different wax on yours than on THSDrummers, curious to see how it holds up.

FrostyToast, I'm writing your letter now :D I wanted to wait for some new stuff to come in first. Now just waiting on my initial wax seal and red wax to get here Monday. It's gonna look awesome on these envelopes I got.

Anyone else get in on all of the Fountain Pen Day contests and raffles? I must have done like ten of them. I know I won't win, but ya never know!

Got my TWSBI Eco today :) I already love it.. the 1.1mm stub nib on it is SOOO smooth, wow. Gonna put some 1670 Rouge Hematite in it... it will look so pretty in the chamber :)

I got my little circle labels today... been working tonight on putting them on each sample bottle and swabbing them. It's actually working out even better than I expected. I'll post a pic once I am completely done with them all. I'm not even halfway through yet... I must have used 100 cotton swabs today lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jerue on Tue, 10 November 2015, 09:54:21
I put a Pilot Metropolitan (M) on my birthday/christmas wish list, after reading about it on reddit. Soon I might be able to join the ranks of the rest of you devout fountain pen geeks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 10 November 2015, 10:06:28
I put a Pilot Metropolitan (M) on my birthday/christmas wish list, after reading about it on reddit. Soon I might be able to join the ranks of the rest of you devout fountain pen geeks.
gooood
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 10 November 2015, 10:20:01
I put a Pilot Metropolitan (M) on my birthday/christmas wish list, after reading about it on reddit. Soon I might be able to join the ranks of the rest of you devout fountain pen geeks.

Looks like someone is sending a message to their secret santa...  :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: chroness on Tue, 10 November 2015, 16:03:05
I recently joined this forum (have been doing a bit of lurking), but I too am into fountain pens! My daily writer is a TWSBI Diamond 580AL but I also regularly use my metropolitan.

Just ordered a Parker 50 and am super excited to have my first vintage :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 10 November 2015, 18:57:25
Why not the 51?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: chroness on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:56:24
Why not the 51?
Oops my bad that was a typo. Ironic on a keyboard forum
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 10 November 2015, 21:22:00
Got my TWSBI Eco today :) I already love it.. the 1.1mm stub nib on it is SOOO smooth, wow. Gonna put some 1670 Rouge Hematite in it... it will look so pretty in the chamber :)

I love the piston on mine, but I'm not sold on the fine nib.  Seems a little scratchy to me.  Not sure if it's the ink, the paper, the nib, or all of the above.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 10 November 2015, 21:23:40
twsbi <3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:04:57
It's been a while since I've posted  in this thread and the Eco is holding up well. I must say, it is a real workhorse. I've put it through all hell and back and temperatures and various inks. This is a fine pen.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: jerue on Wed, 11 November 2015, 10:34:58
I put a Pilot Metropolitan (M) on my birthday/christmas wish list, after reading about it on reddit. Soon I might be able to join the ranks of the rest of you devout fountain pen geeks.

Looks like someone is sending a message to their secret santa...  :p

Heh, I am running the Secret Santa at work and put it on my wishlist for my family. I mean, if I end up with a bunch of Pilot pens I will not complain, they look awesome.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 15 November 2015, 18:24:20
So much fountain, great pen, very show, such Columbus OH, wow!

Pics coming soon.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 15 November 2015, 18:25:11
In incredible and related news, Binge wallethacked me. Unbelieveable...Thank you Binge for making those PFM dreams come true.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 15 November 2015, 18:33:49
In incredible and related news, Binge wallethacked me. Unbelieveable...Thank you Binge for making those PFM dreams come true.
The legacy PFM scare/thrill of 2015 will be a fresh and funky memory into 2016 no doubt.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 17:53:08
I just started getting into fountain pens and I bought a Lamy Safari with a medium nib. Its soooo nice to write with :D Now I just need to find a notebook with decent paper that won't bleed through. Any tips?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 16 November 2015, 17:55:43
I just started getting into fountain pens and I bought a Lamy Safari with a medium nib. Its soooo nice to write with :D Now I just need to find a notebook with decent paper that won't bleed through. Any tips?

I say this to erreone.  Buy SN^2 paper.  It's not the smoothest feeling but it has no problems taking whatever kind of ink punishment you want to dish out, and the color/effects of your ink stays true.

You have to order via e-mail, but it is worth it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 17:56:47
I just started getting into fountain pens and I bought a Lamy Safari with a medium nib. Its soooo nice to write with :D Now I just need to find a notebook with decent paper that won't bleed through. Any tips?

I say this to erreone.  Buy SN^2 paper.  It's not the smoothest feeling but it has no problems taking whatever kind of ink punishment you want to dish out, and the color/effects of your ink stays true.

You have to order via e-mail, but it is worth it.

I'll give it a look after class :D Thank you sir.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 17 November 2015, 06:37:23
Small notebooks with paper with no bleedthrough that I've tried:

- Rhodia
- Clairefontaine
- anything with Tomoe River such as these Backpocket Journals (http://www.modernstationer.com/blog/2014/9/5/backpocket-journal-tomoe-river-edition-review)
- Apica Notebooks

For larger notebooks I just stick with Rhodia. I'm really loyal to Rhodia for some reason lol.

I like Field Notes even if they've got bleedthrough and I'm currently using notebooks that jdcarpe made for my work notes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 17 November 2015, 06:51:56
Alternately most people seem to like Rhodia notepads. (Ninja'd by Cap while I was writing a novel)

I got another pen and more ink. Kaweco Skyline Sport white, medium nib, and a few cartridges in colors I wanted to try. Haven't had a chance to use it yet, been sick so I don't feel up to cleaning it. Also got a bottle of Noodler's Apache Sunset. Only been able to try it with a terrible scratchy dip pen nib I have so lots of feathering and very little shading, but I already like this color and I don't usually like orange. I'm sure it'll look better in a pen that isn't godawful. XD; Still have the Bleu Pervenche in the Metro because I don't write much, derp.

Heh, kind of off-topic since it's not writing or fountain pens, but I remember now why all those years ago I used to use a Speedball C5 calligraphy nib to ink my drawings prior to coloring rather than an 'art' nib, the C5 was narrow enough to look like a normal line and didn't literally rip apart the paper... Weird I guess to use a 1mm italic nib for inking outlines, but I always rotated the paper around to the most comfortable angle for the line for inking to help overcome my poor eye-hand coordination so the variation didn't come into play much except on longer lines where you wouldn't have noticed it much anyway. I had art pens I used sometimes, but they stopped making the one I liked and the dip pen feathered less on the paper I had at the time even if the line was thicker. I should see if I can find one online, lost mine when I moved in 2001 and haven't seen one in a store since. Maybe get some other nibs too, like the B series that's actually intended for inking linework lawl. The one benefit of dip pens is that ink ADD is easy to accommodate rofl.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 17 November 2015, 20:06:32
Does anyone here have an experience with a Pilot Prera M? I might pull the trigger on a used one and want a second opinion. I'm loving my Lamy Safari, I just want another one for ease of having different colors.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 17 November 2015, 20:57:12
Does anyone here have an experience with a Pilot Prera M? I might pull the trigger on a used one and want a second opinion. I'm loving my Lamy Safari, I just want another one for ease of having different colors.

Bit short, meant to be used while posted. Balance is decent. M nib writes like a Lamy F/EF (as they're pretty damn similar). Relatively dry out of the box, but very smooth. Can be converted to an eyedropper easily.

I probably should add that they're not really worth their US retail price. Bought direct in Japan they're only about 18 usd. When placed against the metropolitan (same nib, metal body), it would seem like poor value, but I prefer the prera over the metro (I dislike the step on the metro's barrel).
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 17 November 2015, 21:14:11
Does anyone here have an experience with a Pilot Prera M? I might pull the trigger on a used one and want a second opinion. I'm loving my Lamy Safari, I just want another one for ease of having different colors.

They're fine if you want interesting colours that you would normally never want to put in a pen.
You can clearly see what colour they are inside and they are relatively cheap so you don't have to worry about staining them with something like Baystate Blue.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 17 November 2015, 21:20:27
Does anyone here have an experience with a Pilot Prera M? I might pull the trigger on a used one and want a second opinion. I'm loving my Lamy Safari, I just want another one for ease of having different colors.

They're fine if you want interesting colours that you would normally never want to put in a pen.
You can clearly see what colour they are inside and they are relatively cheap so you don't have to worry about staining them with something like Baystate Blue.

Awesome, I was planning on using it for fun colors so that makes it perfect :)

Does anyone here have an experience with a Pilot Prera M? I might pull the trigger on a used one and want a second opinion. I'm loving my Lamy Safari, I just want another one for ease of having different colors.

Bit short, meant to be used while posted. Balance is decent. M nib writes like a Lamy F/EF (as they're pretty damn similar). Relatively dry out of the box, but very smooth. Can be converted to an eyedropper easily.

I probably should add that they're not really worth their US retail price. Bought direct in Japan they're only about 18 usd. When placed against the metropolitan (same nib, metal body), it would seem like poor value, but I prefer the prera over the metro (I dislike the step on the metro's barrel).

I know it's not off the shelf, but the person I'm buying it from is selling it for 30 shipped with the converter so it makes it a much better value then the retail price. We shall see how it goes once it comes in!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 17 November 2015, 21:56:35

I know it's not off the shelf, but the person I'm buying it from is selling it for 30 shipped with the converter so it makes it a much better value then the retail price. We shall see how it goes once it comes in!


That's not too bad then. Enjoy your pen!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 18 November 2015, 11:10:20
Does anyone here have an experience with a Pilot Prera M? I might pull the trigger on a used one and want a second opinion. I'm loving my Lamy Safari, I just want another one for ease of having different colors.

They're fine if you want interesting colours that you would normally never want to put in a pen.
You can clearly see what colour they are inside and they are relatively cheap so you don't have to worry about staining them with something like Baystate Blue.

Awesome, I was planning on using it for fun colors so that makes it perfect :)

Does anyone here have an experience with a Pilot Prera M? I might pull the trigger on a used one and want a second opinion. I'm loving my Lamy Safari, I just want another one for ease of having different colors.

Bit short, meant to be used while posted. Balance is decent. M nib writes like a Lamy F/EF (as they're pretty damn similar). Relatively dry out of the box, but very smooth. Can be converted to an eyedropper easily.

I probably should add that they're not really worth their US retail price. Bought direct in Japan they're only about 18 usd. When placed against the metropolitan (same nib, metal body), it would seem like poor value, but I prefer the prera over the metro (I dislike the step on the metro's barrel).

I know it's not off the shelf, but the person I'm buying it from is selling it for 30 shipped with the converter so it makes it a much better value then the retail price. We shall see how it goes once it comes in!


That's a sizable expense for a beater pen... $30 shipped? yeesh
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 18 November 2015, 16:04:00
Binge I'm waiting to see photos of your OMAS here.
You're disappointing us, man!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:14:38
There's a massdrop for Diamine Shimmertastic ink (they are metallic).  Are they safe to use in most pens?  Don't want to ruin my newly repaired and nice-flowing Stipula celluloid...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:16:24
In incredible and related news, Binge wallethacked me. Unbelieveable...Thank you Binge for making those PFM dreams come true.

WTF. You were supposed to sew hidden pockets into your pants and grab me some pens. Did Binge steer you on the right path and away from my dark pleas?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 19 November 2015, 10:54:19
Binge I'm waiting to see photos of your OMAS here.
You're disappointing us, man!

I actually have like... 100 or so photos from the show.  Still processing them.

In incredible and related news, Binge wallethacked me. Unbelieveable...Thank you Binge for making those PFM dreams come true.

WTF. You were supposed to sew hidden pockets into your pants and grab me some pens. Did Binge steer you on the right path and away from my dark pleas?

Need a baller pen?  Hit me up.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:15:25
There's a massdrop for Diamine Shimmertastic ink (they are metallic).  Are they safe to use in most pens?  Don't want to ruin my newly repaired and nice-flowing Stipula celluloid...
Yes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:21:01
There's a massdrop for Diamine Shimmertastic ink (they are metallic).  Are they safe to use in most pens?  Don't want to ruin my newly repaired and nice-flowing Stipula celluloid...

Just don't let them dry out.
Oddly enough, metals tend to not evaporate.
Normal ink, if dry, will be softened by water or other solvents. Metals, not so much, but you can still flush it out with some more effort. Metals, though, are not more harmful in any way, shape, or form
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:25:51
In incredible and related news, Binge wallethacked me. Unbelieveable...Thank you Binge for making those PFM dreams come true.

WTF. You were supposed to sew hidden pockets into your pants and grab me some pens. Did Binge steer you on the right path and away from my dark pleas?

I mean I got you pens if you want pens. Not the super expensive ones that Binge is trying to offload either :P.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:27:41
Wait you're giving away fancy pens?

Dibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:29:31
In incredible and related news, Binge wallethacked me. Unbelieveable...Thank you Binge for making those PFM dreams come true.

WTF. You were supposed to sew hidden pockets into your pants and grab me some pens. Did Binge steer you on the right path and away from my dark pleas?

I mean I got you pens if you want pens. Not the super expensive ones that Binge is trying to offload either :P.

Can't put a small price on the danqest of writing implements.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:30:00
Wait you're giving away fancy pens?

Dibs.

Binge is planning on selling his visconti homo sapiens demonstrators for a reasonable price. Though it's way more than I'm willing to pay which says a lot. That being said, what he's selling for is more than fair.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:31:14
Wait you're giving away fancy pens?

Dibs.

Binge is planning on selling his visconti homo sapiens demonstrators for a reasonable price. Though it's way more than I'm willing to pay which says a lot. That being said, what he's selling for is more than fair.

It's true!

(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Skuloth on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:37:17
Why are you selling it Binge?

Last I heard you were really enjoying it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 19 November 2015, 14:15:38
Why are you selling it Binge?

Last I heard you were really enjoying it.

I found something I couldn't live without.  These are nice but I can live, regrettably, without them.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 19 November 2015, 14:27:44
I found something I couldn't live without.
Spoiler: it was his love for me
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Thu, 19 November 2015, 15:01:53
Those are beautiful binge! Sadly the prera deal fell through.. Onwards to search for more pens :D what's everyone's favorite ink?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 19 November 2015, 15:10:26
Those are beautiful binge! Sadly the prera deal fell through.. Onwards to search for more pens :D what's everyone's favorite ink?

Too many nice inks out there.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Thu, 19 November 2015, 17:05:35
Wait you're giving away fancy pens?

Dibs.

Binge is planning on selling his visconti homo sapiens demonstrators for a reasonable price. Though it's way more than I'm willing to pay which says a lot. That being said, what he's selling for is more than fair.

It's true!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)


Jesus ****ing Christ that blue pen my soul just died a little.  :'(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 19 November 2015, 17:09:05
Wait you're giving away fancy pens?

Dibs.

Binge is planning on selling his visconti homo sapiens demonstrators for a reasonable price. Though it's way more than I'm willing to pay which says a lot. That being said, what he's selling for is more than fair.

It's true!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)


Jesus ****ing Christ that blue pen my soul just died a little.  :'(

I haven't taken a good picture of it in a while.  Need to do that for him to sell.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Thu, 19 November 2015, 17:15:00
Wait you're giving away fancy pens?

Dibs.

Binge is planning on selling his visconti homo sapiens demonstrators for a reasonable price. Though it's way more than I'm willing to pay which says a lot. That being said, what he's selling for is more than fair.

It's true!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)


Jesus ****ing Christ that blue pen my soul just died a little.  :'(

I haven't taken a good picture of it in a while.  Need to do that for him to sell.

Even with the potato it's gorgeous lol but probably like 800 bucks rofl.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 19 November 2015, 17:56:24
OMAS has recently filled for bankruptcy and it is highly possible that they will shut down their operation. And I just need to buy a pen made of Arco celluloid, they are too stunning to let them pass:

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn140/PENSnINKS/OmasArcotBrownOpensmall.jpg)

Still picking a model, but man, those pens are expensive. :'( Probably will need to sell some keyboards and unused pens for that.

EDIT: I'm selling a Montblanc 149 and a Mabie Todd Swan at Fountain Pen Network. If someone is interested, contact me there. Same name and avatar.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 19 November 2015, 18:03:31
OMAS has recently filled for bankruptcy and it is highly possible that they will shut down their operation. And I just need to buy a pen made of Arco celluloid, they are too stunning to let them pass:

Show Image
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn140/PENSnINKS/OmasArcotBrownOpensmall.jpg)


Still picking a model, but man, those pens are expensive. :'( Probably will need to sell some keyboards and unused pens for that.

heyyy there's my pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 November 2015, 20:26:52
Someone left a Parker 51 Vacumatic on my desk for me (or at least I assume it was for me since it obviously had not been used in a long time).  I have no clue when it showed up or who left it, but I thought it was cool.  It's not the best feeling pen (my Pilot Metro feels better), but it's an awesome piece of history.  I put some Pelikan 4001 Black in it and it still works great.  Pretty impressive for how old it has to be.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 30 November 2015, 09:56:53
Massdrop is currently killing it with special deals at the moment.  L2K for $104, L2K stainless for under $200, Pelikan M600 for less than $300, Platinum President for less than $150, and Lamy Dialogue for $200.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 09:08:38
I lost my Eco. Idk what to do  :'(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 03 December 2015, 10:44:39
I need a pen restoration expert.  I have 3 FP's from my Grandfather's estate, all are Sheaffers I believe.  One is an unused/uninked NIB Pen for Him.  I'd like to get them all to working order, or at least to the point where I'm not worried about them deteriorating inside due to old ink, etc.  Does anyone know sby they trust to do this kind of thing?  How much would it cost?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 03 December 2015, 10:54:18
I need a pen restoration expert.  I have 3 FP's from my Grandfather's estate, all are Sheaffers I believe.  One is an unused/uninked NIB Pen for Him.  I'd like to get them all to working order, or at least to the point where I'm not worried about them deteriorating inside due to old ink, etc.  Does anyone know sby they trust to do this kind of thing?  How much would it cost?

Go to a pen show.  Lots of repair people.  Test out their pens they restore, ask about the process... You might like their work, or they might point you in the direction of another skilled repairman.  Likely they can restore your pen for a fee.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 10:55:28
I attend a fountain pen club in Cincinnati with two poem repair experts. I could help you out of you like heedpantsnow. The last pen I took over to them was a co workers grandmother's pens
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:38:31
I need a pen restoration expert.  I have 3 FP's from my Grandfather's estate, all are Sheaffers I believe.  One is an unused/uninked NIB Pen for Him.  I'd like to get them all to working order, or at least to the point where I'm not worried about them deteriorating inside due to old ink, etc.  Does anyone know sby they trust to do this kind of thing?  How much would it cost?

Go to a pen show.  Lots of repair people.  Test out their pens they restore, ask about the process... You might like their work, or they might point you in the direction of another skilled repairman.  Likely they can restore your pen for a fee.

I've looked and I don't see any in my area on the horizon.  Is there somewhere on the web that tracks pen shows?

I attend a fountain pen club in Cincinnati with two poem repair experts. I could help you out of you like heedpantsnow. The last pen I took over to them was a co workers grandmother's pens

I'll PM you later.  Thanks bud.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:41:26
I've looked and I don't see any in my area on the horizon.  Is there somewhere on the web that tracks pen shows?

There's a set amount of the big pen shows. Here's a list from 2015 (http://pendletonspens.com/Pen_Shows/index.html). Here's some confirmed for 2016 (http://www.fivestarpens.com/pen-show-calendar.html). And this is for smaller pen shows/meetups/clubs (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/40-Clubs-Shows-and-Geek-Gatherings). Of course, those are just pen vendor sites but the old FPGeeks Pen Show link is gone now.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 12:42:32
I got my lamy converter, two bottles of Noodler's ink, and a pilot metro in the mail today :D I loaded the Bernanke Blue into the lamy already.. it's writing kind of faint. Like the lines are a little light in color then what I thought it was gonna be. Could this be because there was a little water in the pen from when I cleaned it through last night?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: drewba on Thu, 03 December 2015, 12:50:16
Putting my Lamy Safari to good use. I really like this pen.

(http://i.imgur.com/kvGxtXCl.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 03 December 2015, 18:25:43
I got my lamy converter, two bottles of Noodler's ink, and a pilot metro in the mail today :D I loaded the Bernanke Blue into the lamy already.. it's writing kind of faint. Like the lines are a little light in color then what I thought it was gonna be. Could this be because there was a little water in the pen from when I cleaned it through last night?
Yes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 18:28:13
I got my lamy converter, two bottles of Noodler's ink, and a pilot metro in the mail today :D I loaded the Bernanke Blue into the lamy already.. it's writing kind of faint. Like the lines are a little light in color then what I thought it was gonna be. Could this be because there was a little water in the pen from when I cleaned it through last night?
Yes.

I guess the best fix is to just reload it once it's empty? it's not going to damage anything right?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 03 December 2015, 18:36:30
It may write in full colour soon when excess water is fully rinsed from the pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 18:38:14
It may write in full colour soon when excess water is fully rinsed from the pen.

awesome! thank you so much for the help :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Thu, 03 December 2015, 19:50:40
I lost my Eco. Idk what to do  :'(

buy another one!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 21:19:04
You are right. The medium was too broad I think. Either that or look into other brands.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 08 December 2015, 12:37:56
Participated in Reddit Secret Santa for the first time this year. I text messaged my brother at my home address (where I gave my address for my Secret Santa) and he said a package arrived from Goulet Pens addressed to my Reddit name. Ahh. The anticipation is killing me to see what my Secret Santa got me! It's already a good gift, either way ;D

I'll be home in a week from college. I'll share the spoilers whenever I find out for myself :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 08 December 2015, 12:59:21
Participated in Reddit Secret Santa for the first time this year. I text messaged my brother at my home address (where I gave my address for my Secret Santa) and he said a package arrived from Goulet Pens addressed to my Reddit name. Ahh. The anticipation is killing me to see what my Secret Santa got me! It's already a good gift, either way ;D

I'll be home in a week from college. I'll share the spoilers whenever I find out for myself :thumb:

Was burned hard in reddit SS.  Never again.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 08 December 2015, 13:27:33
Participated in Reddit Secret Santa for the first time this year. I text messaged my brother at my home address (where I gave my address for my Secret Santa) and he said a package arrived from Goulet Pens addressed to my Reddit name. Ahh. The anticipation is killing me to see what my Secret Santa got me! It's already a good gift, either way ;D

I'll be home in a week from college. I'll share the spoilers whenever I find out for myself :thumb:

Was burned hard in reddit SS.  Never again.

I'm sorry Binge. Cant wait to see what you get though drummer
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 08 December 2015, 14:21:33
Participated in Reddit Secret Santa for the first time this year. I text messaged my brother at my home address (where I gave my address for my Secret Santa) and he said a package arrived from Goulet Pens addressed to my Reddit name. Ahh. The anticipation is killing me to see what my Secret Santa got me! It's already a good gift, either way ;D

I'll be home in a week from college. I'll share the spoilers whenever I find out for myself :thumb:

Was burned hard in reddit SS.  Never again.

I'm curious what happened? I really think it's a bit of a gamble signing up. Just because some people are entering essentially as a contest to be matched to the few well-known celebrities gifts.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 08 December 2015, 14:26:11
Participated in Reddit Secret Santa for the first time this year. I text messaged my brother at my home address (where I gave my address for my Secret Santa) and he said a package arrived from Goulet Pens addressed to my Reddit name. Ahh. The anticipation is killing me to see what my Secret Santa got me! It's already a good gift, either way ;D

I'll be home in a week from college. I'll share the spoilers whenever I find out for myself :thumb:

Was burned hard in reddit SS.  Never again.

I'm curious what happened? I really think it's a bit of a gamble signing up. Just because some people are entering essentially as a contest to be matched to the few well-known celebrities gifts.

It always seems *****y to hear about why someone doesn't appreciate a gift so I don't want to go into it, but you should know the person wrote me a note "I know you said you like X, but that's bad so I got you Y because Y is great and I like Y and you shouldn't like X anymore."  FFS I would have rather gotten socks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 08 December 2015, 19:25:03
Participated in Reddit Secret Santa for the first time this year. I text messaged my brother at my home address (where I gave my address for my Secret Santa) and he said a package arrived from Goulet Pens addressed to my Reddit name. Ahh. The anticipation is killing me to see what my Secret Santa got me! It's already a good gift, either way ;D

I'll be home in a week from college. I'll share the spoilers whenever I find out for myself :thumb:

Was burned hard in reddit SS.  Never again.

I'm curious what happened? I really think it's a bit of a gamble signing up. Just because some people are entering essentially as a contest to be matched to the few well-known celebrities gifts.

It always seems *****y to hear about why someone doesn't appreciate a gift so I don't want to go into it, but you should know the person wrote me a note "I know you said you like X, but that's bad so I got you Y because Y is great and I like Y and you shouldn't like X anymore."  FFS I would have rather gotten socks.

Dang. That really stinks. My brother signed up for it and asked me (before pairing) if I planned on getting them a gift in my interests to introduce them to it, or get them a gift for their interests. I did the latter, and told him to do that. I think he did. It's also tough, because some people assume they should push off their (superior) activities on others. Meanwhile, others thoughtfully research their giftee's interests and get them a tasteful gift. Unfortunately, I think there is about a 50% mix.

I remember seeing a post of a "college survival kit". It was ramen noodles (one pack, I think), a bottle opener, condoms, all wrapped in TP. That is, if I recall it correctly. I know there was at least a pack of Ramen and everything was wrapped in TP....
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Wed, 09 December 2015, 17:34:02
I have a serious problem. I got my TWSBI 580AL Blue Broad today, and I have no idea which ink I have to put in it. I have samples/bottles of:

Noodler's Apache Sunset
Diamine Shimmertastic Night Sky
Diamine Shimmertastic Blue Lightning
Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrun
Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun
Private Reserve Electric DC Blue
J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor

Also a bottle of J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche but that's in my Metropolitan so it's out of the running.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Wed, 09 December 2015, 18:48:15
I have a serious problem. I got my TWSBI 580AL Blue Broad today, and I have no idea which ink I have to put in it. I have samples/bottles of:

Noodler's Apache Sunset
Diamine Shimmertastic Night Sky
Diamine Shimmertastic Blue Lightning
Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrun
Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun
Private Reserve Electric DC Blue
J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor

Also a bottle of J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche but that's in my Metropolitan so it's out of the running.

Put in Diamine Shimmertastic Blue Lightning or Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun and write me a letter ;)

J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor is a fantastic one as well. I really need to pick that up. Especially if I get a stub nib this Christmas.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: graefeln on Fri, 11 December 2015, 08:34:18
Head's up: Massdrop is having a bazaar again and they have a couple BungBox inks (Dandyism, Clown's Tears, and Sapphire). I know a couple of people here mentioned wanting to try BungBox - they don't seem to have Ink of the Witch however.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 11 December 2015, 08:37:21
I have a serious problem. I got my TWSBI 580AL Blue Broad today, and I have no idea which ink I have to put in it. I have samples/bottles of:

Noodler's Apache Sunset
Diamine Shimmertastic Night Sky
Diamine Shimmertastic Blue Lightning
Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrun
Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun
Private Reserve Electric DC Blue
J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor

Also a bottle of J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche but that's in my Metropolitan so it's out of the running.

Ah the fountain pen struggle. Sometimes I just reach into my ink drawer and whatever I grab first I use. Lately though, I've been using Mont Blanc's Pink Ink or Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:05:11
Right now, I'm in love with Diamine Aqqua Lagoon.  I got a tester of it and it's just a sexy color.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 11 December 2015, 11:08:15
I have a serious problem. I got my TWSBI 580AL Blue Broad today, and I have no idea which ink I have to put in it. I have samples/bottles of:

Noodler's Apache Sunset
Diamine Shimmertastic Night Sky
Diamine Shimmertastic Blue Lightning
Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrun
Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun
Private Reserve Electric DC Blue
J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor

Also a bottle of J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche but that's in my Metropolitan so it's out of the running.

Ah the fountain pen struggle. Sometimes I just reach into my ink drawer and whatever I grab first I use. Lately though, I've been using Mont Blanc's Pink Ink or Pilot Iroshizuku Kosumosu.

Anson got me hooked on MB inks.  Can't say I'm the biggest fan of this Akkerman other than the bottle, but the MB inks are silky as fk.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Fri, 11 December 2015, 19:25:25
I went with the Fuyu-Syogun for the TWSBI. I need a bottle of this ink now. Hnnnngh. Such a lovely cool grey, definitely very wintery. I love it. My mom had a cat this colour once. The nib has a lot of feedback, which is new, but doesn't feel scratchy or anything. Had some skipping at first but after a few hours and some writing that seems to have gone away, probably just didn't flush it enough initially.

I got my Induses(Indii?) in from FPR, got one when they had a buy one get one free thing. Got it with the flex nib so I could play around with that without the smell issues everyone complains about with the Noodlers ones, I'm sensitive to odors.

One thing I've noticed with both my TWSBI and these, how the *hell* do you get all the water out of a piston? Disassemble it every time I guess? Actually leave it overnight instead of blowing the water out with a bulb syringe? Voodoo rituals?

I put the PR Electric DC Blue in one of them because if it stains a cheapie demo that has blue anyway I won't be that irritated. Working well so far, started right up. This is definitely not a subtle blue in any way, very dark and in your face. Surprisingly it does give a bit of shading, was not expecting that from the writing samples I've seen pictures of. Naturally the cap on the sample vial must've gotten a little loose at one point as there was some on the threads of the vial which naturally got allll over my hands and may never come out rofl.

Still debating the other one. One of the shimmer inks I think.

So currently:

Pilot Metropolitan, silver, medium nib: J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche
Kaweco Skyline Sport, white, medium nib: J. Herbin Ambre de Birmanie (This is so far my least favorite pen, it's crabby, but that might be the ink cartridge. The ink doesn't really move around in it and seems really dry, which is a shame because I love the colour. It took an age to start up initially, doesn't start well still, skips, argh.)
TWSBI 580AL blue, broad nib: Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun
FPR Indus, blue demo, flex nib: Private Reserve DC Blue

Also a blue Preppy and a blue-black Petit1 for 'who cares if I lose this carrying it around, it's like 4 bucks with tax, I can buy these by the fistful in Japantown'.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 11 December 2015, 19:40:06
got a nice package from inanis. pilot metro and some iroshizuku ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sun, 13 December 2015, 11:44:20
Well, I'm stoked. Just arrived home for holiday break only to see dad has stocked the fridge with good beer, and they won some local beers at a White Elephant that I haven't ever tried. Not only that, but my Reddit Secret Santa delivered - and big time.

(http://i.imgur.com/pyZZ0rT.jpg)

It may not seem like much, but it's my first Pilot Iroshizuku inks I've owned outside of the 2mL vial of Asa-Goa (which I loved, I used it all up quickly). Not only that, but I don't own any blue inks, so I finally have something in that department. I also think Yama-Budu is one of the better looking inks on the market and was heavily considering picking a bottle up post-holiday season. So, now I have a blue ink, one of my favorite inks, and some Pilot Iroshizuku so I can stop gawking at all the posts about it.

I got three letters in the mail, so looks like I'll have to ink up some Yama-Budu and get to writing :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nalor on Sun, 13 December 2015, 21:22:53
I really should ink one of my fountain pens with a color other than Noodle Black. (I do have a bunch of colors, but I tend to use black the most for work.) Consider that I'm only taking notes for me at work, I should be able to use other colors, but I keep returning to simple black.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:07:23
I posted this on Reddit but I might as well post it here, my current pens and what they're inked with and a sample of their writing:

(http://www.iankunx.net/pens1212.jpg)
(http://www.iankunx.net/pens1212writing.jpg)

Top to bottom:

FPR Indus demo, flex nib, J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor
Osmiroid 65, sketch pen nib, Noodler's Apache Sunset
FPR Indus demo, flex nib, Private Reserve Electric DC Blue
Pilot Metropolitan, medium nib, J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche
TWSBI Diamond 580AL blue, broad nib, Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun
Kaweco Skyline Sport, medium nib, J. Herbin Ambre de Birmanie
Platinum Preppy, medium nib, included blue cartridge
Pilot Petit1, fine nib, included blue-black cartridge

Thoughts:

FPR pens: It's almost impossible to get all the water out after flushing it, even more so than the TWSBI. Gave both some initial flushing with water and filled them from sample vials, both started right up without problems. The line variation isn't huge but that's a thing with modern flex nibs from what I read, and I don't put much pressure on them either. We'll see how they hold up, but given I got them as a buy one get one free for a grand total of 23 bucks shipped, I'm quite happy with them so far.

Osmiroid 65: This came from a thrift store, a set of a drawing pen set, a lettering pen set, and a hopefully unrelated bottle of pelikan india ink. If it was used it was in the lettering pen set pen which belched some black bits that do not seem to be rubber but rather ossified ink and I haven't actually tried filling yet. Only one nib per set seems to have been really used; the copperplate nib from the drawing set is toast, one of the tines is slightly bent and they slip past each other if you touch the nib to paper, but the others seem to have been unused. The pen from the drawing set is the one being used here; it immediately started with easily dissolved old ink and seems to fill OK for now, but given the age probably needs a new sac desperately - The amount held doesn't seem to last long. But I may not be filling it completely either since I don't want to push the sac too hard, and it's a *very* wet nib that slaps down a bucketload of ink. The sketch pen nib was apparently never used as unlike the others it has a white plastic base which had no sign of staining and the flush was crystal clear. It has a bit over the top of it, flexes slightly, and is an absolutely lovely nib. I paid 10 bucks for the set, so I think I did OK there.

Metro: Not a lot to say. It's the basic starter pen and what I started with. It writes nice and smooth, but I wish the line were a little wider. I definitely prefer at least a western medium, if not bold/semi-flex. Need to try a stub nib. It's a little small for my big fat hands and the big dip in at the section is a little off for me. Not much to say about it lol.

TWSBI: This is a gorgeous pen. It holds wonderfully, the weight and size are perfect without posting, it writes well, I just plain like it. The nib does have a lot of feedback, not so much scratchy as it feels a little textured as it writes. It's not unpleasant and doesn't seem to affect the writing any, it's just not as smooth as some of the other nibs I have.

Kaweco Sport: I kind of hate this pen. It hates writing, starts hard, stops, etc. Not sure if it's the nib or the ink, the ink in the cartridge doesn't behave like the ink in any other cartridge I have from any brand or even the same brand. I kind of want to pull it out, hot glue it, flush the hell out of the pen and slap a different cartridge in and see if that helps any. It holds better than the Metro shape-wise but the weight is awful for me, it feels lighter than a ballpoint to me. It's also really ugly. I could overlook the ugly if it wrote better but as it is it sits there and irritates me. I at least didn't buy it, my aunt got it for me, but still.

Preppy: Surprisingly nice. The default blue is of course deathly boring, but what can you do. Writes nicely, it's a good size. Feels a little cheap but I expect this from a pen that cost less than four bucks.

Petit1: Also surprisingly nice. Only slightly longer than the Sport and thinner. Weighs about the same but somehow feels better in the hand, guessing it has to do with the cap not being most of the length of the pen. The proprietary to this particular pen cartridge is a bit of a derp, but nothing a syringe or just buying some cheap refills in Japantown won't fix. I like it much better as a pocket pen than the Kaweco, and if I lose it, like the preppy it's less than four bucks.


Yes, my handwriting looks like a demented six year old's.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Mon, 14 December 2015, 22:08:42
I posted this on Reddit but I might as well post it here, my current pens and what they're inked with and a sample of their writing:

Show Image
(http://www.iankunx.net/pens1212.jpg)

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(http://www.iankunx.net/pens1212writing.jpg)


Top to bottom:

FPR Indus demo, flex nib, J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor
Osmiroid 65, sketch pen nib, Noodler's Apache Sunset
FPR Indus demo, flex nib, Private Reserve Electric DC Blue
Pilot Metropolitan, medium nib, J. Herbin Bleu Pervenche
TWSBI Diamond 580AL blue, broad nib, Pilot Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun
Kaweco Skyline Sport, medium nib, J. Herbin Ambre de Birmanie
Platinum Preppy, medium nib, included blue cartridge
Pilot Petit1, fine nib, included blue-black cartridge

Thoughts:

FPR pens: It's almost impossible to get all the water out after flushing it, even more so than the TWSBI. Gave both some initial flushing with water and filled them from sample vials, both started right up without problems. The line variation isn't huge but that's a thing with modern flex nibs from what I read, and I don't put much pressure on them either. We'll see how they hold up, but given I got them as a buy one get one free for a grand total of 23 bucks shipped, I'm quite happy with them so far.

Osmiroid 65: This came from a thrift store, a set of a drawing pen set, a lettering pen set, and a hopefully unrelated bottle of pelikan india ink. If it was used it was in the lettering pen set pen which belched some black bits that do not seem to be rubber but rather ossified ink and I haven't actually tried filling yet. Only one nib per set seems to have been really used; the copperplate nib from the drawing set is toast, one of the tines is slightly bent and they slip past each other if you touch the nib to paper, but the others seem to have been unused. The pen from the drawing set is the one being used here; it immediately started with easily dissolved old ink and seems to fill OK for now, but given the age probably needs a new sac desperately - The amount held doesn't seem to last long. But I may not be filling it completely either since I don't want to push the sac too hard, and it's a *very* wet nib that slaps down a bucketload of ink. The sketch pen nib was apparently never used as unlike the others it has a white plastic base which had no sign of staining and the flush was crystal clear. It has a bit over the top of it, flexes slightly, and is an absolutely lovely nib. I paid 10 bucks for the set, so I think I did OK there.

Metro: Not a lot to say. It's the basic starter pen and what I started with. It writes nice and smooth, but I wish the line were a little wider. I definitely prefer at least a western medium, if not bold/semi-flex. Need to try a stub nib. It's a little small for my big fat hands and the big dip in at the section is a little off for me. Not much to say about it lol.

TWSBI: This is a gorgeous pen. It holds wonderfully, the weight and size are perfect without posting, it writes well, I just plain like it. The nib does have a lot of feedback, not so much scratchy as it feels a little textured as it writes. It's not unpleasant and doesn't seem to affect the writing any, it's just not as smooth as some of the other nibs I have.

Kaweco Sport: I kind of hate this pen. It hates writing, starts hard, stops, etc. Not sure if it's the nib or the ink, the ink in the cartridge doesn't behave like the ink in any other cartridge I have from any brand or even the same brand. I kind of want to pull it out, hot glue it, flush the hell out of the pen and slap a different cartridge in and see if that helps any. It holds better than the Metro shape-wise but the weight is awful for me, it feels lighter than a ballpoint to me. It's also really ugly. I could overlook the ugly if it wrote better but as it is it sits there and irritates me. I at least didn't buy it, my aunt got it for me, but still.

Preppy: Surprisingly nice. The default blue is of course deathly boring, but what can you do. Writes nicely, it's a good size. Feels a little cheap but I expect this from a pen that cost less than four bucks.

Petit1: Also surprisingly nice. Only slightly longer than the Sport and thinner. Weighs about the same but somehow feels better in the hand, guessing it has to do with the cap not being most of the length of the pen. The proprietary to this particular pen cartridge is a bit of a derp, but nothing a syringe or just buying some cheap refills in Japantown won't fix. I like it much better as a pocket pen than the Kaweco, and if I lose it, like the preppy it's less than four bucks.


Yes, my handwriting looks like a demented six year old's.

Those are all beautiful! I'm thinking about picking up something similar to the Apache Sunset. How would you compare it to other Noodler's inks?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Mon, 14 December 2015, 23:43:54
Those are all beautiful! I'm thinking about picking up something similar to the Apache Sunset. How would you compare it to other Noodler's inks?

It's the only Noodler's ink I have so I don't really have a frame of reference. XD;
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Mon, 14 December 2015, 23:46:51
Those are all beautiful! I'm thinking about picking up something similar to the Apache Sunset. How would you compare it to other Noodler's inks?

It's the only Noodler's ink I have so I don't really have a frame of reference. XD;

Awww okay xD I'm using Bernanke Blue in my Safari and Le couleur royale in my pilot Metro and I'm loving them so far.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Tue, 15 December 2015, 21:43:39
Baystate blue is my dd atm. It's like playing with fire. This stuff is amazingly persistent.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 16 December 2015, 10:01:48
Baystate blue is my dd atm. It's like playing with fire. This stuff is amazingly persistent.

Fades wonderfully in sunlight.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 11:12:14
Baystate blue is my dd atm. It's like playing with fire. This stuff is amazingly persistent.

I just looked up some writing samples. It looks beautiful. I'll have to get some soon :DDD
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 11:31:05
Be warned, it stains anything and everything. My metal sink still has blue spots.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 16 December 2015, 11:33:00
Be warned, it stains anything and everything. My metal sink still has blue spots.

Cleans up with some bleach though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 16 December 2015, 11:35:10
Be warned, it stains anything and everything. My metal sink still has blue spots.

Thanks for the warning haha
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 16 December 2015, 12:06:36
Be warned, it stains anything and everything. My metal sink still has blue spots.

Cleans up with some bleach though.

also fades entirely with UV exposure.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: kekstee on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:47:35
(http://i.imgur.com/RUJNxdC.jpg)
Pretty much my default handwriting. I always think it's too narrow and slanted when looking at more than one line.

Maybe this instead?
(http://i.imgur.com/uEU4g1t.jpg)

I want to work on it but there is so little motivation to do so.

I had a very nice pen, the Waterman Expert until it was stolen along with my bag a few months ago (luckily the only expensive item in there at the time). Now this one I don't even take outside anymore. And while the Roting looks fun I do prefer something like the Lamy 2000 in my hand. Don't have one myself unfortunately.

Also thought about picking up a broad calligraphy nib at about 1.5 width for some writing experimentation. Maybe the clear Kaweco, since it would look nice with a colourful ink (TWSBI 580 seems excessive for the task). But yeah, totally undecided what I should do. Maybe all the future holds is crappy handwriting. I don't have anything to write with such a pen anyway.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 22 December 2015, 15:45:11
I visited the local pen store today just to hold pens, look at ink, and droll over items I can't afford. Been considering picking up another bottle of ink, but I'm trying to downsize my collection of items in my life. That said, I have a question: how many inks do you own? I'm not talking about 2-3 mL sample vials. I'm talking full size (15mL+ bottles).

Personally, I'm at 9, including the 3 15mL bottles from my Reddit Secret Santa. I hardly use my Noodler's Forest Green or Blue Ghost anymore. I'm hesitant to buy more inks, if I'm not even using others I own. That said, I'd sure like to pick up a few 15mL Pilot ink bottles to add variety to my setup. Maybe a full bottle of Yama-Budo since I adore that ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 December 2015, 15:50:20
One. While I get having many inks is nice... in the end it really is just clutter because I only use one pen at a time.

But then again I'm trying to cut down on my hoarding of everything.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Tue, 22 December 2015, 15:55:38
One. While I get having many inks is nice... in the end it really is just clutter because I only use one pen at a time.

But then again I'm trying to cut down on my hoarding of everything.

That's where I am at. I've been cleaning up quite a bit, but I still have way to much. The more ink, the more pens I "need". I own two pens and use them both pretty regularly. I think three would be ideal. One red for markups, one blue-black for professional use, and one for fun.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 22 December 2015, 15:59:52
One. While I get having many inks is nice... in the end it really is just clutter because I only use one pen at a time.

But then again I'm trying to cut down on my hoarding of everything.

Good job, I need to follow your lead.  It seems like I have about 1/3 too much of so many things. :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 16:01:22
I've got the same problem ugh :(. And I just bought a new pen :( :(.

In other news, I'm trying to decide if the little Iroshizuku 15 ML glass bottles will survive a trip with me.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 22 December 2015, 16:06:13
I've got the same problem ugh :(. And I just bought a new pen :( :(.

In other news, I'm trying to decide if the little Iroshizuku 15 ML glass bottles will survive a trip with me.

The glass should be fine; I've traveled USA to China back and forth so many times.  Just put it in a ziplock and wrap bubblewrap or clothes around it.  The biggest issue is half-full pens.  The air inside pushes the ink out when the pressure drops.  So either take them empty or full.

And when I said I need less of things, I actually wasn't talking about pens and inks, mainly tech stuff.  So if anyone wants to declutter their pen collection, I'm sure I can help you find a home for it. :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 22 December 2015, 16:10:45
I've got the same problem ugh :(. And I just bought a new pen :( :(.

In other news, I'm trying to decide if the little Iroshizuku 15 ML glass bottles will survive a trip with me.

WHAT ****ING PEN SWAYED YOUR DONGER?!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 22 December 2015, 16:11:19
I've got the same problem ugh :(. And I just bought a new pen :( :(.

In other news, I'm trying to decide if the little Iroshizuku 15 ML glass bottles will survive a trip with me.

WHAT ****ING PEN SWAYED YOUR DONGER?!

The one you found me bruh
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 22 December 2015, 16:36:38
I've got the same problem ugh :(. And I just bought a new pen :( :(.

In other news, I'm trying to decide if the little Iroshizuku 15 ML glass bottles will survive a trip with me.

WHAT ****ING PEN SWAYED YOUR DONGER?!

The one you found me bruh

(http://i.imgur.com/LAFrzad.gif)

That pen is really neat. (Sheaffer Legacy)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Tue, 22 December 2015, 17:12:50
One. While I get having many inks is nice... in the end it really is just clutter because I only use one pen at a time.

But then again I'm trying to cut down on my hoarding of everything.

That's where I am at. I've been cleaning up quite a bit, but I still have way to much. The more ink, the more pens I "need". I own two pens and use them both pretty regularly. I think three would be ideal. One red for markups, one blue-black for professional use, and one for fun.

One. While I get having many inks is nice... in the end it really is just clutter because I only use one pen at a time.

But then again I'm trying to cut down on my hoarding of everything.

Good job, I need to follow your lead.  It seems like I have about 1/3 too much of so many things. :(

okay.. im kinda full of ****. the only reason im cutting down on stuff is because i need space for all the damn shoes cpt keeps linking me that i NEED.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 22 December 2015, 17:13:20
One. While I get having many inks is nice... in the end it really is just clutter because I only use one pen at a time.

But then again I'm trying to cut down on my hoarding of everything.

That's where I am at. I've been cleaning up quite a bit, but I still have way to much. The more ink, the more pens I "need". I own two pens and use them both pretty regularly. I think three would be ideal. One red for markups, one blue-black for professional use, and one for fun.

One. While I get having many inks is nice... in the end it really is just clutter because I only use one pen at a time.

But then again I'm trying to cut down on my hoarding of everything.

Good job, I need to follow your lead.  It seems like I have about 1/3 too much of so many things. :(

okay.. im kinda full of ****. the only reason im cutting down on stuff is because i need space for all the damn shoes cpt keeps linking me that i NEED.

lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:00:52
My grandfather gave me what is by far my favorite present this year at Christmas:

(http://i.imgur.com/3Pub2rY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/flSkpx0.jpg)

It's a MB 149 that he bought some time in the late 60's and has sat in its case almost entirely unused since then. Looks almost new. I've been trying to date it and don't know for sure yet, but it has some features that suggest early-to-mid 60's.

Edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention, he bought it for $33.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:34:12
My grandfather gave me what is by far my favorite present this year at Christmas:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3Pub2rY.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/flSkpx0.jpg)


It's a MB 149 that he bought some time in the late 60's and has sat in its case almost entirely unused since then. Looks almost new. I've been trying to date it and don't know for sure yet, but it has some features that suggest early-to-mid 60's.

Edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention, he bought it for $33.

Bruh.. thats amazing! are you gonna use it? what ink to start with if you do :)?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:39:53
I definitely plan on using it from time to time, but we won't keep it filled. We're going to stick with MB inks and other things that won't stain or clog.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:50:45
A vintage 1960's Montblanc 149? :eek: What a gift!

And a tip: Fountain Pen Network is the place to ask questions about them. This post is the best resource to date your 149: http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/170282-dating-montblanc-149s/

To finish: Montblanc inks are awesome, but Pilot Iroshizuku and Pelikan Edelstein are also very nice inks. I would also include Diamine, but I have no experience with this well-regarded brand.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:53:49
My grandfather gave me what is by far my favorite present this year at Christmas:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3Pub2rY.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/flSkpx0.jpg)


It's a MB 149 that he bought some time in the late 60's and has sat in its case almost entirely unused since then. Looks almost new. I've been trying to date it and don't know for sure yet, but it has some features that suggest early-to-mid 60's.

Edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention, he bought it for $33.

Holy Grail...............

Congrats!!

Highly desirable 149, brass (and not plastic) innards, great weight and balance.

Nice family heirloom :thumb:

As far as inks..............I recommend  Noodlers Eel or Polar ink for piston fillers. They have never clogged on me and was made for this type filling system(s).

Not to mention it is "archival."

My daily go to ink.............. :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 28 December 2015, 12:59:00
My grandfather gave me what is by far my favorite present this year at Christmas:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3Pub2rY.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/flSkpx0.jpg)


It's a MB 149 that he bought some time in the late 60's and has sat in its case almost entirely unused since then. Looks almost new. I've been trying to date it and don't know for sure yet, but it has some features that suggest early-to-mid 60's.

Edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention, he bought it for $33.

That's some hot ****!  I was very excited to BUY a 146 marked W. Germany at the Ohio pen show, but wow such gift, very pwn!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 28 December 2015, 17:35:37
Highly desirable 149, brass (and not plastic) innards, great weight and balance.
As a matter of fact, only in the 1990's the filler thread began to be made of brass; before that they were made of plastic.

EDIT: the second photo, the one showing the nib and section in details, make me think that this pen is even older than OP's grandfather said.

Take a look at the nib of my 149, made in the mid-to-late 1990's (I beg your pardon for the potato quality):

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OP's pen have a single-unit barrel, proving that it was produced before 1985. A 2-section barrel looks like this (this photo isn't mine):

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss171/DKbRS/Pens/MBsection.jpg)

Also, we can see that my pen's nib is a tri-colored, 18K gold nib. Almost the same as the OP.

ALMOST, because OP's pen is marked 18C, not 18K. This nib was only produced between 1952 and 1959.

OP have a vintage 1950's MB 149, maybe one of the most valued fountain pens out there. Respect!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 28 December 2015, 19:05:33
Yep, to confirm a bit of what Vinnie is saying, it does have plastic threads and a single unit barrel. I also read that the 18C nib marks it as 50's, but I actually had read that before the move to plastic threads from a friction plunger happened in 1959, which was the last time the 18C nib was produced. So my current estimation is that this was made in 1959.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:21:15
Glad to see there are some other folks who still enjoy hard written letters as well! Heres my slowly growing pen collection:
(http://www.saliv8.com/gallery3/var/albums/Misc/DSF2489-print.jpg?m=1451862952)

Left to right: Platinum Preppy highlighter eyedropper, Pen i made when i was a kid, Visconti HomeSapiens Bronze (F), Sheaffer NoNonsense(F-Italic), MonteVerde Intima (1.1), Delta Serena (F), Cross Townsend (M), Pilot Metro (F). Up top is a Lamy Joy Caligraphy 1.5
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 05 January 2016, 05:58:01
One of these things is not like the others rofl. Nice little collection!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 05 January 2016, 20:52:05
One of these things is not like the others rofl. Nice little collection!

ha! i'm equal opportunity. They all get a significant amount of work except the Lamy Joy. That thing is stupid.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 22:41:11
Took some pictures of my pens today! Here are the better ones:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1583/23927521330_48945b9432_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CsoNtd)LamyPilot1 1_6_16 (https://flic.kr/p/CsoNtd) by Carlitos Fernandez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138889771@N05/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1627/24223116605_3e459468c9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CUvNDt)Lamy 1_6_16 (https://flic.kr/p/CUvNDt) by Carlitos Fernandez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138889771@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Wed, 06 January 2016, 22:58:48
Part of my collection. I've added a few more since I took this photo.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/303/19057669115_dd3955e1c8_h.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:22:00
Part of my collection. I've added a few more since I took this photo.

Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/303/19057669115_dd3955e1c8_h.jpg)


I spy with my little eye... a sailor realo.  Welcome brother.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:37:16
Part of my collection. I've added a few more since I took this photo.

Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/303/19057669115_dd3955e1c8_h.jpg)


I spy with my little eye... a sailor realo.  Welcome brother.

It's one of my favorites, but lately it's been competing for use since I picked up a Custom 823. They're both beautiful!

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/501/19310403338_c0543474a6_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:45:19
Part of my collection. I've added a few more since I took this photo.

Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/303/19057669115_dd3955e1c8_h.jpg)


What demonstrator is that second pen? It's beautiful with that ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:46:49
Part of my collection. I've added a few more since I took this photo.

Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/303/19057669115_dd3955e1c8_h.jpg)


What demonstrator is that second pen? It's beautiful with that ink.

It's a Pilot Heritage 92 inked with Iroshizuku Yama Budo.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:49:29
Part of my collection. I've added a few more since I took this photo.

Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/303/19057669115_dd3955e1c8_h.jpg)


What demonstrator is that second pen? It's beautiful with that ink.

It's a Pilot Heritage 92 inked with Iroshizuku Yama Budo.

Just looked up some samples of that ink. It's just a pretty color. I'm looking for a demonstrator as my next pen and that ink might be the one I go to! The Pilot Heritage is a little out of my price range haha I'm glad I saw your combo though :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:55:23
Just looked up some samples of that ink. It's just a pretty color. I'm looking for a demonstrator as my next pen and that ink might be the one I go to! The Pilot Heritage is a little out of my price range haha I'm glad I saw your combo though :D

Not sure where you are located but the Heritage 92 can be ordered direct from Japan for about half of its going rate here in North America. I got mine from an Ebay seller in Japan for 130USD.

Yama Budo is one of my favorite inks. It has a gorgeous gold sheen with the right pen and paper.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:57:42

Just looked up some samples of that ink. It's just a pretty color. I'm looking for a demonstrator as my next pen and that ink might be the one I go to! The Pilot Heritage is a little out of my price range haha I'm glad I saw your combo though :D

Not sure where you are located but the Heritage 92 can be ordered direct from Japan for about half of its going rate here in North America. I got mine from an Ebay seller in Japan for 130USD.

I'm in the US. I just bought a whole lot of camera equipment so 130USD is still out of my budget haha Also I want to try a stub for the first time. I'm probably gonna go with another Lamy as the nibs aren't terribly expensive.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 07 January 2016, 00:01:54
Part of my collection. I've added a few more since I took this photo.

Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/303/19057669115_dd3955e1c8_h.jpg)


I spy with my little eye... a sailor realo.  Welcome brother.

It's one of my favorites, but lately it's been competing for use since I picked up a Custom 823. They're both beautiful!

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(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/501/19310403338_c0543474a6_b.jpg)


Here's my realo's nib,

(http://i.imgur.com/rUsbtS4.jpg)

and an 823?  You and I have good eyes eh?

(http://i.imgur.com/u5MgtpH.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Thu, 07 January 2016, 00:27:03
Here's my realo's nib,

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(http://i.imgur.com/rUsbtS4.jpg)


and an 823?  You and I have good eyes eh?

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(http://i.imgur.com/u5MgtpH.jpg)


I don't have one of the specialty nibs for my Realo, just a standard M. I am curious about a couple of them though. That looks like a Cross Concord Emperor. How do you like yours?

It looks like your 823's nib is rhodium plated. Is that just a white balance trick or did you swap that in from another pen?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 07 January 2016, 00:29:30
Here's my realo's nib,

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(http://i.imgur.com/rUsbtS4.jpg)


and an 823?  You and I have good eyes eh?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/u5MgtpH.jpg)


I don't have one of the specialty nibs for my Realo, just a standard M. I am curious about a couple of them though. That looks like a Cross Concord Emperor. How do you like yours?

It looks like your 823's nib is rhodium plated. Is that just a white balance trick or did you swap that in from another pen?

My 823 is the yellow gold.  Was especially blue in the sky that day.  Daylight will do that.

As far as the CCE on my realo I love the variation.  It will always have a place in my collection because of it.  Incredible nib.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 07 January 2016, 10:59:46

Just looked up some samples of that ink. It's just a pretty color. I'm looking for a demonstrator as my next pen and that ink might be the one I go to! The Pilot Heritage is a little out of my price range haha I'm glad I saw your combo though :D

Not sure where you are located but the Heritage 92 can be ordered direct from Japan for about half of its going rate here in North America. I got mine from an Ebay seller in Japan for 130USD.

I'm in the US. I just bought a whole lot of camera equipment so 130USD is still out of my budget haha Also I want to try a stub for the first time. I'm probably gonna go with another Lamy as the nibs aren't terribly expensive.

Another thing to consider might be to just pick up a stub nib and swap it onto a pen you already have. Most pens are either #5 or #6 nibs and those are readily available. For example, my Monteverde Intima came with a #6 Fine nib that was coated with black paint or something that has been flaking off and causing clogs. I swapped it out with a 1.1 stub nib in plain steel. Very easy, very cheap way of trying out a new nib size. You don't even need to use the same manufacturer - lots of people use FPR's nibs: http://www.fountainpenrevolution.com/nibs.html
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sat, 09 January 2016, 00:39:23
Got a new pen yesterday, a Lamy 2000 with a Broad nib. They aren't kidding when they say broad on this thing. It's also really wet.

(http://www.iankunx.net/lamy2000.jpg)


Current pens and their inks:

(http://www.iankunx.net/pens18.jpg)
(http://www.iankunx.net/inks18.jpg)

My handwriting, it is awful.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zapheo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 03:02:03
You all have some really nice collections! :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 10 January 2016, 03:31:31
You all have some really nice collections! :)

As with most things, collect a pen here and a pen there and soon you will have an impressive collection too!

Mine consists of two Pilot V pens, 14 Pilot Varsitys, and 2 Pilot Metropolitans :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:01:31
Just looked up some samples of that ink. It's just a pretty color. I'm looking for a demonstrator as my next pen and that ink might be the one I go to! The Pilot Heritage is a little out of my price range haha I'm glad I saw your combo though :D

Not sure where you are located but the Heritage 92 can be ordered direct from Japan for about half of its going rate here in North America. I got mine from an Ebay seller in Japan for 130USD.

Yama Budo is one of my favorite inks. It has a gorgeous gold sheen with the right pen and paper.

+1

The Heritage 92 can be picked up cheaper through eBay and such (what I plan on doing at some point).

Yama-Budo is gorgeous! I got a 15mL vial from my Secret Santa. I can honestly say, Yama-Budo was in my top 3 inks to buy, and after seeing it in person and writing with it, I will be buying a full bottle as soon as mine runs out. It is just such a pleasure to write with, and see on the page.

Seeing the Heritage 92 + Yama-Budo combo is awesome :D I've been hoping to make the Heritage 92 one of my next pen purchases for a while. I might add a TWSBI Eco with a stub nib here before August, and then pick up the Heritage 92 a bit later. I want to play around with a stub nib too.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zapheo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:33:01
You all have some really nice collections! :)

As with most things, collect a pen here and a pen there and soon you will have an impressive collection too!

Mine consists of two Pilot V pens, 14 Pilot Varsitys, and 2 Pilot Metropolitans :))

Reliable and quality sights to purchase pens/inks? I should mention I'm a fan of Pilot fountain pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 10 January 2016, 20:00:39
You all have some really nice collections! :)

As with most things, collect a pen here and a pen there and soon you will have an impressive collection too!

Mine consists of two Pilot V pens, 14 Pilot Varsitys, and 2 Pilot Metropolitans :))

Reliable and quality sights to purchase pens/inks? I should mention I'm a fan of Pilot fountain pens.

Most of mine have come from Massdrop.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Lain1911 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 20:04:11
I've got a Jinhao I really like but it has a medium nib, and I really like the fine/ultra fine tips. Do you recommend trying to find a new nib or just going with a different pen?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 23:33:08
I haven't posted in here in a while!! Been so crazy since the holidays, redoing my room, getting over a nice case of Pericarditis from stressing my crappy heart by doing all that redoing my room stuff.

Only new stuff I've gotten lately.. is a purple TWSBI 580AL, that is really really pretty. And my custom leather Traveler's Notebook from Etsy that came in from the Netherlands. It's my first TN, and I am using it as a monthly and weekly planner, notebook, sketchbook and as my wallet. Got a leather wallet insert from the same seller, and it's awesome :D

(http://imgur.com/qhPfQsW.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/1Ah0oDx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/t9JH6Tw.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/cSGiOWE.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/bqTNIsF.jpg)

And look at the cute sticky notes from Asia that I got hahaha.. I couldn't resist, THEY'RE SO CUTE.
(http://imgur.com/WH59lZ1.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Tue, 12 January 2016, 23:39:56
I haven't posted in here in a while!! Been so crazy since the holidays, redoing my room, getting over a nice case of Pericarditis from stressing my crappy heart by doing all that redoing my room stuff.

Only new stuff I've gotten lately.. is a purple TWSBI 580AL, that is really really pretty. And my custom leather Traveler's Notebook from Etsy that came in from the Netherlands. It's my first TN, and I am using it as a monthly and weekly planner, notebook, sketchbook and as my wallet. Got a leather wallet insert from the same seller, and it's awesome :D

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(http://imgur.com/qhPfQsW.jpg)

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(http://imgur.com/1Ah0oDx.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/t9JH6Tw.jpg)

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(http://imgur.com/cSGiOWE.jpg)

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(http://imgur.com/bqTNIsF.jpg)


And look at the cute sticky notes from Asia that I got hahaha.. I couldn't resist, THEY'RE SO CUTE.
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(http://imgur.com/WH59lZ1.jpg)


How do you like the TWSBI? I'm thinking of picking one up soon.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 23:59:15
I haven't posted in here in a while!! Been so crazy since the holidays, redoing my room, getting over a nice case of Pericarditis from stressing my crappy heart by doing all that redoing my room stuff.

Only new stuff I've gotten lately.. is a purple TWSBI 580AL, that is really really pretty. And my custom leather Traveler's Notebook from Etsy that came in from the Netherlands. It's my first TN, and I am using it as a monthly and weekly planner, notebook, sketchbook and as my wallet. Got a leather wallet insert from the same seller, and it's awesome :D

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/qhPfQsW.jpg)

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/1Ah0oDx.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/t9JH6Tw.jpg)

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/cSGiOWE.jpg)

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/bqTNIsF.jpg)


And look at the cute sticky notes from Asia that I got hahaha.. I couldn't resist, THEY'RE SO CUTE.
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(http://imgur.com/WH59lZ1.jpg)


How do you like the TWSBI? I'm thinking of picking one up soon.
The 580AL is awesome, all they had left was with a Medium nib.. and it's INSANELY smooth. It's absolutely perfect. I usually prefer stub nibs (I have a black TWSBI Eco with a 1.1mm stub already), but I really love my 580 a lot. It's just a beautiful pen :) The blue one is also gorgeous. Man.. if they made a pink one.. my life would be complete haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 13 January 2016, 00:00:48

I haven't posted in here in a while!! Been so crazy since the holidays, redoing my room, getting over a nice case of Pericarditis from stressing my crappy heart by doing all that redoing my room stuff.

Only new stuff I've gotten lately.. is a purple TWSBI 580AL, that is really really pretty. And my custom leather Traveler's Notebook from Etsy that came in from the Netherlands. It's my first TN, and I am using it as a monthly and weekly planner, notebook, sketchbook and as my wallet. Got a leather wallet insert from the same seller, and it's awesome :D

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/qhPfQsW.jpg)

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/1Ah0oDx.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/t9JH6Tw.jpg)

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/cSGiOWE.jpg)

Show Image
(http://imgur.com/bqTNIsF.jpg)


And look at the cute sticky notes from Asia that I got hahaha.. I couldn't resist, THEY'RE SO CUTE.
Show Image
(http://imgur.com/WH59lZ1.jpg)


How do you like the TWSBI? I'm thinking of picking one up soon.
The 580AL is awesome, all they had left was with a Medium nib.. and it's INSANELY smooth. It's absolutely perfect. I usually prefer stub nibs (I have a black TWSBI Eco with a 1.1mm stub already), but I really love my 580 a lot. It's just a beautiful pen :) The blue one is also gorgeous. Man.. if they made a pink one.. my life would be complete haha.

I really wanna try a stub nib.. I only have a Lamy with medium and pilot with fine right now. I'm trying to hunt down a twisbi with the 1.1 haha
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 02:33:10
The purple one is pretty. I got the Blue 580AL.

I'm not Syribo, but I like it. It fits my hand perfectly and feels nice, and it's neat to watch the ink slosh around. I like the weight of it as well. You can't really post it because the cap would sit on the piston knob and you'd end up with ink everywhere if you did it wrong, but it's long enough and balanced nicely to where you really don't need to.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:00:22
I really wanna try a stub nib.. I only have a Lamy with medium and pilot with fine right now. I'm trying to hunt down a twisbi with the 1.1 haha

Just grab a $14 stub nib for your Lamy then? If you like it, then look for another pen.
http://www.gouletpens.com/lamy-replacement-steel-nib-silver-1.1mm-stub/p/LMY-LZ50-11
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Wed, 13 January 2016, 22:18:58
I really wanna try a stub nib.. I only have a Lamy with medium and pilot with fine right now. I'm trying to hunt down a twisbi with the 1.1 haha

Just grab a $14 stub nib for your Lamy then? If you like it, then look for another pen.
http://www.gouletpens.com/lamy-replacement-steel-nib-silver-1.1mm-stub/p/LMY-LZ50-11

I just bought this thank you for that! I also bought a TWSBI Eco with a medium nib, Diamine Asa Blue, and Pilot Iroshizuku Yu-Yake Sunset from Jet pens. I forgot all my ink back home and used that as an excuse to get more inks.......
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 13 January 2016, 23:26:04
Bought an OMAS 360 with a broad nib and sent it to Masuyama for a Cursive Italic treatment.
I also took the opportunity to try out Gothic script.

(http://i.imgur.com/UIR9UsF.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 14 January 2016, 00:15:06
This may be more suited question to a more dedicated fountain pen forum or something of that nature, but what brand or what kind of vintage pens should I be looking at if I'm wanting to try more of a vintage flex pen? And what kind of prices should I stick by, as to not get ripped off.  :))

I'm looking at the EF-F area and I'm really quite open to appearance.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 14 January 2016, 04:49:02
This may be more suited question to a more dedicated fountain pen forum or something of that nature, but what brand or what kind of vintage pens should I be looking at if I'm wanting to try more of a vintage flex pen? And what kind of prices should I stick by, as to not get ripped off.  :))

I'm looking at the EF-F area and I'm really quite open to appearance.
Yeah, that's a question that belongs on Fountain Pen Network. But I can say that the Mabie Todd Swan pen have some pretty flexy nib. (I'm trying to sell mine, flex writing isn't really my thing.)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 14 January 2016, 09:58:04
This may be more suited question to a more dedicated fountain pen forum or something of that nature, but what brand or what kind of vintage pens should I be looking at if I'm wanting to try more of a vintage flex pen? And what kind of prices should I stick by, as to not get ripped off.  :))

I'm looking at the EF-F area and I'm really quite open to appearance.
Yeah, that's a question that belongs on Fountain Pen Network. But I can say that the Mabie Todd Swan pen have some pretty flexy nib. (I'm trying to sell mine, flex writing isn't really my thing.)

yeah i was going to say something similar. I think everyone sees videos or photos of the flex writing experts laying down some freehand copperplate and wants a flex nib. Then after they realize the flex nib can be a royal pain in the rear to write with otherwise they give up on it. I'm always a fan of "pick up something cheap that works, and if you like it, spend the money on the fancy stuff". For that reason, i grabbed a Noodlers flex pen to try out and mess around with. If its the fancy lettering you're after, I highly recommend grabbing some dip pens. Thats where the artwork lettering comes from.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 14 January 2016, 10:14:49
If you want to start learning calligraphy then begin with Gothic script (aka Blackletter)
Stubs are cheap and easy to find. You don't even need a gold nib to use them; Steel is actually quite preferable for calligraphy since you need a stiff nib for sharp lines.

Calligraphy sets are the best to start with since the size of your lettering is dependent on the width of the stub.
I would recommend either the Pilot Parallel or Lamy Joy calligraphy pens since they can be filled with ink. Though if you want something affordable dip nibs are fine.
I'm fairly certain a dip stub nib with a resevoir can use fountain pen ink.

I wouldn't recommend buying a pricey flex pen without first trying what flex feels like.
(In all fairness, that's exactly what I did but don't blame me if you get upset that you can't master Copperplate in a day)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 14 January 2016, 10:39:48
...
I would recommend either the Pilot Parallel or Lamy Joy calligraphy pens since they can be filled with ink.

... i'll sell my Lamy Joy (picture in thread above) cheap to anyone who wants to try it. I dont use it.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 14 January 2016, 10:55:27
If you want to start learning calligraphy then begin with Gothic script (aka Blackletter)
Stubs are cheap and easy to find. You don't even need a gold nib to use them; Steel is actually quite preferable for calligraphy since you need a stiff nib for sharp lines.

Calligraphy sets are the best to start with since the size of your lettering is dependent on the width of the stub.
I would recommend either the Pilot Parallel or Lamy Joy calligraphy pens since they can be filled with ink. Though if you want something affordable dip nibs are fine.
I'm fairly certain a dip stub nib with a resevoir can use fountain pen ink.

I wouldn't recommend buying a pricey flex pen without first trying what flex feels like.
(In all fairness, that's exactly what I did but don't blame me if you get upset that you can't master Copperplate in a day)
I prefer Foundational hand, much easier to read. I also like Uncial hand: it's old but very easy to write/read.

Gothic and Blackletter (they are distinct hands, in fact) are pretty much unreadable. From what I read on my research, that was intentional on Blackletter.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 14 January 2016, 14:48:16
If you want to start learning calligraphy then begin with Gothic script (aka Blackletter)
Stubs are cheap and easy to find. You don't even need a gold nib to use them; Steel is actually quite preferable for calligraphy since you need a stiff nib for sharp lines.

Calligraphy sets are the best to start with since the size of your lettering is dependent on the width of the stub.
I would recommend either the Pilot Parallel or Lamy Joy calligraphy pens since they can be filled with ink. Though if you want something affordable dip nibs are fine.
I'm fairly certain a dip stub nib with a resevoir can use fountain pen ink.

I wouldn't recommend buying a pricey flex pen without first trying what flex feels like.
(In all fairness, that's exactly what I did but don't blame me if you get upset that you can't master Copperplate in a day)
I prefer Foundational hand, much easier to read. I also like Uncial hand: it's old but very easy to write/read.

Gothic and Blackletter (they are distinct hands, in fact) are pretty much unreadable. From what I read on my research, that was intentional on Blackletter.

Gothic and Blackletter look so much more fun and are fun to write out.
Honestly I would get bored practicing Foundational and Uncial.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 14 January 2016, 15:04:33
Bought an OMAS 360 with a broad nib and sent it to Masuyama for a Cursive Italic treatment.
I also took the opportunity to try out Gothic script.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/UIR9UsF.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/o8rVuNN.jpg)

That is beautiful.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 14 January 2016, 15:14:42
Bought an OMAS 360 with a broad nib and sent it to Masuyama for a Cursive Italic treatment.
I also took the opportunity to try out Gothic script.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/UIR9UsF.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/o8rVuNN.jpg)


That is beautiful.

The quick brown fox says hi.
(http://i.imgur.com/XBiHWAO.jpg?1)
You can tell I just started learning. Don't look closely.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 14 January 2016, 16:17:33
Bought an OMAS 360 with a broad nib and sent it to Masuyama for a Cursive Italic treatment.
I also took the opportunity to try out Gothic script.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/UIR9UsF.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/o8rVuNN.jpg)


That is beautiful.

The quick brown fox says hi.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XBiHWAO.jpg?1)

You can tell I just started learning. Don't look closely.

WHY ARE YOU SO LOUD
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Syribo on Thu, 14 January 2016, 17:38:22
Bought an OMAS 360 with a broad nib and sent it to Masuyama for a Cursive Italic treatment.
I also took the opportunity to try out Gothic script.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/UIR9UsF.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/o8rVuNN.jpg)


That is beautiful.

The quick brown fox says hi.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XBiHWAO.jpg?1)

You can tell I just started learning. Don't look closely.
I want to learn calligraphy SO bad.. but modern calligraphy. That really loopy girly looking calligraphy, like this:
(https://m2.behance.net/rendition/pm/16532101/disp/7d12b101d04e850655429e92f09a8b31.jpg)

Someday I need to get a calligraphy set to try out. I just don't know if I have the patience for it lol

Still working on finishing up redecorating my room. Until I finish, I can't settle myself down to even write in my journal. When I have stuff that I'm working on, I can't concentrate on doing anything else til it's done haha.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Thu, 14 January 2016, 19:08:43
The thing that drives me crazy with flexible nibs is angles. To not eventually **** up the tines you need to write at a hideously uncomfortable angle. Also most dip nibs are horrifically scratchy due to tiny untipped points.

I'm sure eventually someone's going to manage to come up with an eyedropper oblique fountain pen designed to take G/Brause Rose nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 00:15:10
(http://i.imgur.com/oS61aDRm.jpg)

Taken during geology course today. I'm learning how to distinguish betweens pens and rocks. The one on the right is a new pen that came in like less then a week ago. It's a TSBI Eco Medium nib filled with my first iroshizuku ink, yu-yake. I like the pen so far except it seems to skip every so often and it gets worse depending on the angle that I'm writing. I have to write like perpendicular to the line of writing for it to work wellish. Anyway to fix this?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Sat, 23 January 2016, 03:36:52
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(http://i.imgur.com/oS61aDRm.jpg)


Taken during geology course today. I'm learning how to distinguish betweens pens and rocks. The one on the right is a new pen that came in like less then a week ago. It's a TSBI Eco Medium nib filled with my first iroshizuku ink, yu-yake. I like the pen so far except it seems to skip every so often and it gets worse depending on the angle that I'm writing. I have to write like perpendicular to the line of writing for it to work wellish. Anyway to fix this?

A skipping pen could be caused by a number of different factors. What do you mean by "perpendicular to the line of writing"?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Vadisi on Sat, 23 January 2016, 04:11:31
I wish I was into pens, I just can't bring myself to fork out eighty plus dollars on a nice pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 23 January 2016, 05:11:23
I wish I was into pens, I just can't bring myself to fork out eighty plus dollars on a nice pen.

Start smaller with, say, some Pilot pens.  Reasonable quality.  Low prices :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Vadisi on Sat, 23 January 2016, 05:31:13
I wish I was into pens, I just can't bring myself to fork out eighty plus dollars on a nice pen.

Start smaller with, say, some Pilot pens.  Reasonable quality.  Low prices :)

I already do but it I'd like something better
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:30:40
I wish I was into pens, I just can't bring myself to fork out eighty plus dollars on a nice pen.

Start smaller with, say, some Pilot pens.  Reasonable quality.  Low prices :)

I already do but it I'd like something better

Used pens on ebay are fantastic for getting some high quality for low prices. If you want something new, there are plenty of <$50 pens out there that people rave about. The TWSBI ECO comes to mind.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 25 January 2016, 21:30:23
So I have a habit of letting my pen sit for a while without using it, then I will use it for a while, then let it sit.  When I get back to it, and the ink in the nib is dry and won't flow, what is the prefered method to get it writing again.  I have a Lamy, don't remember what model but there is a white one posted earlier on this page.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 25 January 2016, 21:37:46
So I have a habit of letting my pen sit for a while without using it, then I will use it for a while, then let it sit.  When I get back to it, and the ink in the nib is dry and won't flow, what is the prefered method to get it writing again.  I have a Lamy, don't remember what model but there is a white one posted earlier on this page.

The water has evaporated but the pigment is still there.
Just dip the nib in cold water and wipe off any excess liquid. It won't be a perfect mixture but it will run just fine. If it's a piston type filler then you can also play with the piston a little.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Mon, 25 January 2016, 23:10:42
So I have a habit of letting my pen sit for a while without using it, then I will use it for a while, then let it sit.  When I get back to it, and the ink in the nib is dry and won't flow, what is the prefered method to get it writing again.  I have a Lamy, don't remember what model but there is a white one posted earlier on this page.

about how long an interval are you letting the pen sit? I'm assuming you're referring to the pauses in between writing where you do some thinking rather than setting the pen down uncapped, taking 5 minutes to drink a cup of coffee before picking it up again.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Melvang on Tue, 26 January 2016, 00:28:52
So I have a habit of letting my pen sit for a while without using it, then I will use it for a while, then let it sit.  When I get back to it, and the ink in the nib is dry and won't flow, what is the prefered method to get it writing again.  I have a Lamy, don't remember what model but there is a white one posted earlier on this page.

about how long an interval are you letting the pen sit? I'm assuming you're referring to the pauses in between writing where you do some thinking rather than setting the pen down uncapped, taking 5 minutes to drink a cup of coffee before picking it up again.
No, much longer than that.  More in the realm of weeks to possibly month and a half or so.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Tue, 26 January 2016, 01:19:07
So I have a habit of letting my pen sit for a while without using it, then I will use it for a while, then let it sit.  When I get back to it, and the ink in the nib is dry and won't flow, what is the prefered method to get it writing again.  I have a Lamy, don't remember what model but there is a white one posted earlier on this page.

about how long an interval are you letting the pen sit? I'm assuming you're referring to the pauses in between writing where you do some thinking rather than setting the pen down uncapped, taking 5 minutes to drink a cup of coffee before picking it up again.
No, much longer than that.  More in the realm of weeks to possibly month and a half or so.

Frosty's solution would be the easiest solution then.

But lamy Safaris - that's your pen - usually has a decent seal. I've left mine inked for months without using them and it starts up each time without issue. If you're using a z24 cartridge convertor, just twist the piston slightly and ink flow should start again. What ink are you using?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Fri, 29 January 2016, 04:29:57
Shoutout to my Lamy 2000 and one of my FPR Induses for behaving nicely through two plane trips and helping keep me calm and sane through my mom's health crisis. The slow pace and ritual of writing on paper as opposed to terrified flailing on a keyboard helped keep me centered and present instead of panicking.

For flying I just filled both up fresh as full as I could get them, wrapped them in a tissue in case of leaks, put them in a ziplock bag with as much air as possible squished out, and stored them upright in my carry-on bag. No leaks even partially used up on the way back. Yay.

There's just something inherently comforting about all of this. Feels good man.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Fri, 29 January 2016, 07:37:18
Our administrative assistant just told me she "liked the pen you wrote that memo with". And I just have a stock Pilot Metro!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 31 January 2016, 16:32:05
Our administrative assistant just told me she "liked the pen you wrote that memo with". And I just have a stock Pilot Metro!

heehe best reaction.

Yo!  I saw your new collection of colors that came in the mail.  Be sure to share with us your favorite.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Sun, 31 January 2016, 16:40:01
Our administrative assistant just told me she "liked the pen you wrote that memo with". And I just have a stock Pilot Metro!

heehe best reaction.

Yo!  I saw your new collection of colors that came in the mail.  Be sure to share with us your favorite.

Haha, I've only tried out Emerald Chivor so far, its absolutely gorgeous. It even looks good all over my hands...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:02:09
Thought I would share my latest FP purchase. I only have two, but I have an Eversharp Skyline from the 1940s in the mail!

Parker Duofold Slimfold

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The nib is tiny but a great writer! I may restore the body a bit (some micro scratches) but it's in very very good condition.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:10:05
That Duofold looks awesome. Congrats on the pickup retrochick! :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:10:18
Thought I would share my latest FP purchase. I only have two, but I have an Eversharp Skyline from the 1940s in the mail!

Parker Duofold Slimfold

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The nib is tiny but a great writer! I may restore the body a bit (some micro scratches) but it's in very very good condition.

I believe the term for this is Pimpmobile.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:16:10
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:19:51
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

Look for a shade you like in Diamine or Pilot Iroshizuku. I don't write in anything gray so I'm not the right person to ask but those brands of ink are really solid.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:30:28
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

Look for a shade you like in Diamine or Pilot Iroshizuku. I don't write in anything gray so I'm not the right person to ask but those brands of ink are really solid.

Awesome thank you for the recommendation! :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:39:57
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

I just got some diamine Asa blue and it's such a pretty color!!!

www.gouletpens.com/diamine-asa-blue-30ml-bottle/p/D3078?gclid=Cj0KEQiAoby1BRDA-fPXtITt3f0BEiQAPCkqQZzz5LXURoF3_P4t9o_ywATF_5vC05u_iYHQIFxx4D0aAnrf8P8HAQ

And it's relatively inexpensive
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 01 February 2016, 12:50:58
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

when you say blueish gray do you mean desaturated or saturated blue? dark color or brighter color?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:11:13
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

when you say blueish gray do you mean desaturated or saturated blue? dark color or brighter color?

A desaturated blue. More like a mixture of blue + black.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:48:24
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

when you say blueish gray do you mean desaturated or saturated blue? dark color or brighter color?

A desaturated blue. More like a mixture of blue + black.
Hard to achieve and get shading.  It's a bit of a catch 22 to be desaturated and have a large shift in value.  I would suggest looking at diamine and I love noodler's 54th Massachusetts as a blue-black.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 01 February 2016, 20:43:20
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

when you say blueish gray do you mean desaturated or saturated blue? dark color or brighter color?

A desaturated blue. More like a mixture of blue + black.
Hard to achieve and get shading.  It's a bit of a catch 22 to be desaturated and have a large shift in value.  I would suggest looking at diamine and I love noodler's 54th Massachusetts as a blue-black.
Ooo that's another vote for diamine! So far looking at getting some samples of Diamine blue black, Noodler's blue black, and Pilot Iroshizuku Shin-Kai.
Also totally not close to blue black at all, but speaking of shading - holy cow Apache Sunset!!!! Might grab a sample of that for ****s and giggles.
Wooo!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:42:51
Thanks Cpt and Binge! I may open a can of worms, but what would everyone recommend for a blueish gray ink that's wet with some shading? too much to ask?

I have some blues you can test out and take home some vials of next time we have a meet. You're local now right?
For a blue-grey i actually like my Noodlers 54th Massachusetts, but i think you might prefer something more 'rich' like D'Atramentis Steel Blue. Anyway, i have a bunch you can try. I have my favorites for different nib sizes and wetness
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 07 February 2016, 19:15:22
I have a thing for collecting machined pens/fountain pens, these are just a few I had with me at work.

Too bad my handwriting sucks :(

Here's a photo of the pens:
(http://i.imgur.com/6W2EFhL.jpg)

And a typical page out of my notebook:
(http://i.imgur.com/Rm65xJf.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:49:27
Any recommendations for pen rolls/cases/portfolios/etc? Starting to need something to carry around a few pens in, and I guess a rack for home.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:53:40
Any recommendations for pen rolls/cases/portfolios/etc? Starting to need something to carry around a few pens in, and I guess a rack for home.

I like the Franklin Christoph stuff if you can get it on sale.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:11:01
Franklin Christoph is the highest quality in pen cases I have personally seen. That is coming from someone who uses a Montblanc Siena to hold their pens.
Franklin Christoph leaves Montblanc in the dust.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ResonantPixel on Sun, 14 February 2016, 14:53:11
I currently am using a lamy safari (LH Nib) but I await a kaweco liliput (EF) in the post! I am pretty hyped, even as I left hander I have written with a fountain pen for years, and also use dip-pens for calligraphy stuff! So my hand is permanently covered in ink : l probably the worst thing about being left handed! 
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: empnero on Mon, 15 February 2016, 02:04:02
Really happy to see other FP geeks on here. I wanted to share my current collection. I have a minor addiction...
Pics are not great, but should get the idea across.

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Asian Pens(Top row left-across): Pilot Custom 823 Smoke (14k M), Pilot Custom 742 (14k SFM), Pilot Custom Heritage 91 Tsukiyo (14k FM), Pilot Custom 74 Smoke (14k M), Pilot Hira Makie Matsu Pine Tree Urushi (14k M), Pilot E95S (14k F), Pilot Vanishing Point Gunmetal (18k M), Pilot Vanishing Point Blue (18k SU), Pilot Fermo (18k F), Pilot Metropolitan (SS M), Pilot Metropolitan (SS F)
Bottom row: Namiki Falcon (14k M), Nakaya Briarwood (14k M), Platinum President (18k M), Platinum 3776 Century Bourgogne (14k M), Platinum 3776 Century Chartres (14k SF), Platinum Kanazawa Leaf Maki-e Red Mt. Fuji (18k M), Sailor Pro Gear Slim Starburst Galaxy (14k M), Sailor Pro Gear Naginata Togi Nib (21k NMF), Sailor 1911L (21k M), Hero 68 (SS Daming?), Jinhao X750 Shimmering Sands (SS Goulet M), Jinhao 149 (SS M), TWSBI Vac 700 (SS M)


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Western Pens (Top): Bexley Owners' Club 2015 (Custom 14k OM), Bexley Imperial Light Blue Swirl (SS F), Edison Nouveau Premiere Mystical Myrrh (Winter 2016) (SS 1.1mm), Edison Nouveau Premiere Cappuccino (18k M), Edison Nouveau Premiere Midnight Thunder (Fall 2015) (18k F),  Edison Beaumont Bordeaux Flake (SS F), Schrade Tactical (SS M), Franklin Covey (SS M), Cross Century (SS M)
Bottom: Sheaffer Snorkel (14K M), Sheaffer Touchdown (14K M), Sheaffer Targa Slim (14K M), Esterbrook Dawn Gray J (9461 nib), Eversharp Venus (14k M?), Parker Vacumatic (14K M), Parker 51 (14k M), Parker Duofold (14k M), (Not pictured Sheaffer Balance Green striated 14k M, no idea where I put it)

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European Pens: Pelikan Souverän M800 Red (18k M), Pelikan M640 (18k M), Pelikan Souverän M600 Green (14K F), Pelikan M605Marine Blue Demonstrator (14k M), Pelikan Classic M200 Café-Crème (14k M), Pelikan Souverän M400 Black (14k M), Pelikan Souverän M400 White Tortoise (Custom 14k 0.7mm), Montblanc 22 (14k M), Montblanc Meisterstück LeGrand 146 (14k M)
(Bottom): Delta Indigenous Peoples Indios (18k M), Omas Emotica (Ti M), Visconti Homo Sapiens Maxi Bronze Age (23k Palladium F), Visconti Michelagel (23k Pd M), Visconti Millennium Arc Moonlight Sky Blue (Chromium 1.3mm Stub), Lamy Dialog 3 (14k F), Lamy 2000 (14k M), Lamy Studio (14k M), Lamy Safari (SS M), Lamy Al-Star (SS 1.1mm), Pelikan Pelikano (SS A (M?)), Pelikan Pelikano Junior (SS A (M?))
(not pictured Pelikan New Classic P381, 1 blue 14k B, 1 green 14k B,  to be custom ground)

Cheap/disposable pens not displayed (Bic disposable fountain pen in desk at work in case I forget to bring, Pilot Varsity disposables to hand out to people wanting to try FPs, Pilot Plumix, Platinum Preppys)

EDIT: Spelling/Format

I'm not posting posting handwriting samples as my handwriting is really terrible. If anyone wants to see some samples of how certain pens/nibs write, I can do that, but it'll mostly just be lines. I can also post some more detailed images of specific pens
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 15 February 2016, 03:47:26
^ Whoa! :eek:

That's an awesome collection! :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 15 February 2016, 05:01:22
Really happy to see other FP geeks on here. I wanted to share my current collection. I have a minor addiction...
Pics are not great, but should get the idea across.

Woahh dude, nice collection!!
What's your favorite??
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: empnero on Mon, 15 February 2016, 10:40:33
My favorite to write with is easily the Pilot Custom 823. The nib is so smooth, but doesn't gush too much. The ink capacity is crazy too. You just have to remember to unscrew the back a little to keep it flowing. The 14k lamys are also super smooth, but a little too smooth. The flow is a little too heavy too.

The most fun to write with though is the Pelikan White tortoise. I had John Mottishaw custom grind it to a 0.7 and I've been using it with J. Herbin  Emerald of Chivor. Looks amazing.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ResonantPixel on Mon, 15 February 2016, 10:55:04
You do seriously have one hell of a collection! Humbles my two!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Chief Clukey on Sat, 20 February 2016, 22:34:52
Holy cow. That is quite the nice collection. Glad GH has so many FP enthusiasts as well.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:40:35
My favorite to write with is easily the Pilot Custom 823. The nib is so smooth, but doesn't gush too much. The ink capacity is crazy too. You just have to remember to unscrew the back a little to keep it flowing. The 14k lamys are also super smooth, but a little too smooth. The flow is a little too heavy too.

The most fun to write with though is the Pelikan White tortoise. I had John Mottishaw custom grind it to a 0.7 and I've been using it with J. Herbin  Emerald of Chivor. Looks amazing.


Awesome thanks for the info, been always looking for a nice fountain pen :D

Yeah I love the J. Herbin anniversary edition inks, want to get the Stormy Grey, can't find anywhere in Aus that has it :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:29:18
(http://i.imgur.com/yK5K1ci.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AuYj3h5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1bVW8CZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: empnero on Sun, 21 February 2016, 20:39:42
My favorite to write with is easily the Pilot Custom 823. The nib is so smooth, but doesn't gush too much. The ink capacity is crazy too. You just have to remember to unscrew the back a little to keep it flowing. The 14k lamys are also super smooth, but a little too smooth. The flow is a little too heavy too.

The most fun to write with though is the Pelikan White tortoise. I had John Mottishaw custom grind it to a 0.7 and I've been using it with J. Herbin  Emerald of Chivor. Looks amazing.


Awesome thanks for the info, been always looking for a nice fountain pen :D

Yeah I love the J. Herbin anniversary edition inks, want to get the Stormy Grey, can't find anywhere in Aus that has it :(

I do love those inks. Stormy Grey was my 1st, for a while it was the only one with the flecks in it, that was added to the Bleu Ocean and Rouge Hematite in later batches. Had it in my Lamy 2000 for a while. I finally got some samples of the Diamine Shimmertastic inks and if you can find those and not Stormy Grey, try Sparkling Shadow.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:30:55
I do love those inks. Stormy Grey was my 1st, for a while it was the only one with the flecks in it, that was added to the Bleu Ocean and Rouge Hematite in later batches. Had it in my Lamy 2000 for a while. I finally got some samples of the Diamine Shimmertastic inks and if you can find those and not Stormy Grey, try Sparkling Shadow.


Great thanks heaps dude, I already have some Diamine inks, but not the ones you mentioned - I'll suss it out :D Sparkling shadows looks real nice :D

Only problem I find annoying with the J.Herbin special edition inks is that it's really coarse and messy for the pen :/
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Mon, 22 February 2016, 10:33:29
Great thanks heaps dude, I already have some Diamine inks, but not the ones you mentioned - I'll suss it out :D Sparkling shadows looks real nice :D

Only problem I find annoying with the J.Herbin special edition inks is that it's really coarse and messy for the pen :/

When I use these inks, I empty them from the pen immediately after I am finished using them. I usually only use them in a Noodler's Ahab. I would only feel comfortable putting these in CC pens that can be cleaned easily.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: chroness on Mon, 22 February 2016, 23:29:35
Really happy to see other FP geeks on here. I wanted to share my current collection. I have a minor addiction...
Pics are not great, but should get the idea across.

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Asian Pens(Top row left-across): Pilot Custom 823 Smoke (14k M), Pilot Custom 742 (14k SFM), Pilot Custom Heritage 91 Tsukiyo (14k FM), Pilot Custom 74 Smoke (14k M), Pilot Hira Makie Matsu Pine Tree Urushi (14k M), Pilot E95S (14k F), Pilot Vanishing Point Gunmetal (18k M), Pilot Vanishing Point Blue (18k SU), Pilot Fermo (18k F), Pilot Metropolitan (SS M), Pilot Metropolitan (SS F)
Bottom row: Namiki Falcon (14k M), Nakaya Briarwood (14k M), Platinum President (18k M), Platinum 3776 Century Bourgogne (14k M), Platinum 3776 Century Chartres (14k SF), Platinum Kanazawa Leaf Maki-e Red Mt. Fuji (18k M), Sailor Pro Gear Slim Starburst Galaxy (14k M), Sailor Pro Gear Naginata Togi Nib (21k NMF), Sailor 1911L (21k M), Hero 68 (SS Daming?), Jinhao X750 Shimmering Sands (SS Goulet M), Jinhao 149 (SS M), TWSBI Vac 700 (SS M)


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Western Pens (Top): Bexley Owners' Club 2015 (Custom 14k OM), Bexley Imperial Light Blue Swirl (SS F), Edison Nouveau Premiere Mystical Myrrh (Winter 2016) (SS 1.1mm), Edison Nouveau Premiere Cappuccino (18k M), Edison Nouveau Premiere Midnight Thunder (Fall 2015) (18k F),  Edison Beaumont Bordeaux Flake (SS F), Schrade Tactical (SS M), Franklin Covey (SS M), Cross Century (SS M)
Bottom: Sheaffer Snorkel (14K M), Sheaffer Touchdown (14K M), Sheaffer Targa Slim (14K M), Esterbrook Dawn Gray J (9461 nib), Eversharp Venus (14k M?), Parker Vacumatic (14K M), Parker 51 (14k M), Parker Duofold (14k M), (Not pictured Sheaffer Balance Green striated 14k M, no idea where I put it)

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European Pens: Pelikan Souverän M800 Red (18k M), Pelikan M640 (18k M), Pelikan Souverän M600 Green (14K F), Pelikan M605Marine Blue Demonstrator (14k M), Pelikan Classic M200 Café-Crème (14k M), Pelikan Souverän M400 Black (14k M), Pelikan Souverän M400 White Tortoise (Custom 14k 0.7mm), Montblanc 22 (14k M), Montblanc Meisterstück LeGrand 146 (14k M)
(Bottom): Delta Indigenous Peoples Indios (18k M), Omas Emotica (Ti M), Visconti Homo Sapiens Maxi Bronze Age (23k Palladium F), Visconti Michelagel (23k Pd M), Visconti Millennium Arc Moonlight Sky Blue (Chromium 1.3mm Stub), Lamy Dialog 3 (14k F), Lamy 2000 (14k M), Lamy Studio (14k M), Lamy Safari (SS M), Lamy Al-Star (SS 1.1mm), Pelikan Pelikano (SS A (M?)), Pelikan Pelikano Junior (SS A (M?))
(not pictured Pelikan New Classic P381, 1 blue 14k B, 1 green 14k B,  to be custom ground)

Cheap/disposable pens not displayed (Bic disposable fountain pen in desk at work in case I forget to bring, Pilot Varsity disposables to hand out to people wanting to try FPs, Pilot Plumix, Platinum Preppys)

EDIT: Spelling/Format

I'm not posting posting handwriting samples as my handwriting is really terrible. If anyone wants to see some samples of how certain pens/nibs write, I can do that, but it'll mostly just be lines. I can also post some more detailed images of specific pens

oh my lordy... those are some collections goals. I love the organization by region.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 22 February 2016, 23:44:33
i dont use my pen much, makes me sad. somebody be my penpal ;-;
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: beehatch on Mon, 22 February 2016, 23:49:08
i dont use my pen much, makes me sad. somebody be my penpal* ;-;

*it will take at least 3 weeks for him to even get the letter out, and by the time he receives your reply he'll forget the initial conversation.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: demik on Mon, 22 February 2016, 23:51:41
i dont use my pen much, makes me sad. somebody be my penpal* ;-;

*it will take at least 3 weeks for him to even get the letter out, and by the time he receives your reply he'll forget the initial conversation.
no, that's between us. we are lazy. NOT LIKE YOU'D WRITE ME ANYWAY.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 26 March 2016, 08:09:35
I've ordered the Waterman Exception Slim Black/Silver with medium 18K gold nib.. It felt soo good in the shop, had to have it. Will post some pics when it's in.

(http://assets.waterman.com/is/image/NewellRubbermaid/xcptn_imgbgd?wid=940&hei=585&fmt=jpeg&op_sharpen=0&qlt=90&op_usm=1,1,6,0&iccEmbed=0&resMode=bicub)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 09 April 2016, 11:41:46
My precious Waterman Exception..

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Sat, 09 April 2016, 17:00:14
Fountain-pen signatures are a clever way of showing some status, which can be important in certain areas of business where things are fluid and non-transparent, e.g. with freelancers of indeterminate standing. I don't really care, though sometimes it's good to commit to a measure of gravitas. It becomes an educated professional to use a fountain pen. I got mine as a birthday gift from my mother and grandmother just after graduating law school in 2007.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 09 April 2016, 17:01:48
Fountain-pen signatures are a clever way of showing some status, which can be important in certain areas of business where things are fluid and non-transparent, e.g. with freelancers of indeterminate standing.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Sat, 09 April 2016, 17:07:02
Fountain-pen signatures are a clever way of showing some status, which can be important in certain areas of business where things are fluid and non-transparent, e.g. with freelancers of indeterminate standing.

Exactly.

In my case it's also about the only way of making it look anywhere close to adult handwriting. I scribble like a six year old. (Impaired co-ordination plus forced switch away from left-handedness at an early age.)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 16 April 2016, 22:35:19
Hello guys,

I didn't notice GH has this thread. Here are my Aurora Talentum 14k nib (the cover is quite scratchy and old so I use paracord to wrap around - quite interesting, isn't it?  :thumb:) next to a Pelikan M1000. They are my favorite pens, one has stiff nib (Aurora) and the other has soft and springy nib (M1000)

(http://i.imgur.com/GIv459N.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 17 April 2016, 07:25:53
Hello guys,

I didn't notice GH has this thread. Here are my Aurora Talentum 14k nib (the cover is quite scratchy and old so I use paracord to wrap around - quite interesting, isn't it?  :thumb:) next to a Pelikan M1000. They are my favorite pens, one has stiff nib (Aurora) and the other has soft and springy nib (M1000)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/GIv459N.jpg)


Nice pen!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 29 May 2016, 05:17:50
Slight oops - I dropped one of my pens on the floor and it landed nib-first, bending the nib downwards.

Can this be reasonably easily salvaged?  I was thinking about bending it back with a pair of pliers.

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: phoenix1234 on Mon, 30 May 2016, 01:25:10
Slight oops - I dropped one of my pens on the floor and it landed nib-first, bending the nib downwards.
Can this be reasonably easily salvaged?  I was thinking about bending it back with a pair of pliers.
(Attachment Link)

Indeed, flat noses pliers with no separation would be great but don't forget to use a heat-shrink tube to cover the pliers nose. You may not want to scratch the nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 30 May 2016, 05:44:11
Slight oops - I dropped one of my pens on the floor and it landed nib-first, bending the nib downwards.
Can this be reasonably easily salvaged?  I was thinking about bending it back with a pair of pliers.
(Attachment Link)

Indeed, flat noses pliers with no separation would be great but don't forget to use a heat-shrink tube to cover the pliers nose. You may not want to scratch the nibs.

Thanks for the tip :)

Most of my pliers are needle-nose, but that's probably easier to slip heat shrink tubing over anyway.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 14 June 2016, 02:34:32

It's true!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)


Jesus ****ing Christ that blue pen my soul just died a little.  :'(

Welp.

(http://www.iankunx.net/crystalswirls.jpg)

(Not Binge's, but.)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 14 June 2016, 10:05:32

It's true!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)


Jesus ****ing Christ that blue pen my soul just died a little.  :'(

Welp.

Show Image
(http://www.iankunx.net/crystalswirls.jpg)


(Not Binge's, but.)

Ooo... looks so good.  Yours?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Tue, 14 June 2016, 10:40:57
The Visconti Opera Master Demo is one of my most-lusted desires.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 14 June 2016, 10:53:57

It's true!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yTqB4PY.jpg)


Jesus ****ing Christ that blue pen my soul just died a little.  :'(

Welp.

Show Image
(http://www.iankunx.net/crystalswirls.jpg)


(Not Binge's, but.)

Ooo... looks so good.  Yours?

Yep. 1.3 stub. All your fault, you posted that picture way back when and I was never able to get that pen out of my mind. Gonna be inking it with Yama-dori, but I have to find time to take out that stupid cone thing because the nib doesn't actually fit in it...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 14 June 2016, 16:30:41
Damn you got lucky with that pattern.
So saturated with those beautiful swirls.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 14 June 2016, 18:38:03
So, I've also gotten into fine writing implements from MassDrop, and am admittedly a neophyte.

What can someone tell me about the price of this particular one: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alpha-pen?mode=guest_open

I asked there, but got a snarky response.  Not complaining about the price... just trying to understand it.  Sort of like you see a fine, if unknown, artist whose work is priced high... and you might ask about the artist, because you're not sure why it's priced high.  Someone subsequently gave a better answer, but I figured I'd throw it out here to see if anyone had anything to add.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Olumin on Wed, 15 June 2016, 19:24:45
(http://puu.sh/pufnG.JPG)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Thu, 16 June 2016, 01:46:46
Damn you got lucky with that pattern.
So saturated with those beautiful swirls.

I know, right? I saw it on /r/pen_swap and it was just gorgeous and I had enough money and well...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 22 July 2016, 09:40:13
What would the best entry level gold nib pen be? I was thinking about the Pilot Custom Heritage 91 in Soft Fine Medium, however I wanted to hear the input of geekhack before I make my purchase.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Fri, 22 July 2016, 09:57:01
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/pufnG.JPG)


Please.
I have two.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sat, 23 July 2016, 01:02:30
What would the best entry level gold nib pen be? I was thinking about the Pilot Custom Heritage 91 in Soft Fine Medium, however I wanted to hear the input of geekhack before I make my purchase.

You're already thinking of it. To be fair, both the Platinum 3776 and the Sailor 1911S series are at similar price points and are equally good nib/body wise, but with slight differences, but what really wins it for the Pilot is the range of nibs (EF, F, FM, M, B, C, SF, SFM, SM) on the 74/91 and the option to use a con-70 (~1ml); in comparison I think the Platinum/Sailor convertors hold about half of that or slightly more than half.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PQStarLord on Mon, 25 July 2016, 10:29:28
Can anyone recommend a nice pen for someone who loves stationary but hasn't looked into anything expensive before?  It would be cool to get my girlfriend a decent pen, but I have no idea where to start!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 25 July 2016, 10:32:13
Can anyone recommend a nice pen for someone who loves stationary but hasn't looked into anything expensive before?  It would be cool to get my girlfriend a decent pen, but I have no idea where to start!

Pilot Metropolitan. Such a good pen for such a good price. It should be less than $20.

What would the best entry level gold nib pen be? I was thinking about the Pilot Custom Heritage 91 in Soft Fine Medium, however I wanted to hear the input of geekhack before I make my purchase.

You're already thinking of it. To be fair, both the Platinum 3776 and the Sailor 1911S series are at similar price points and are equally good nib/body wise, but with slight differences, but what really wins it for the Pilot is the range of nibs (EF, F, FM, M, B, C, SF, SFM, SM) on the 74/91 and the option to use a con-70 (~1ml); in comparison I think the Platinum/Sailor convertors hold about half of that or slightly more than half.


I really like the Pilot gold nibs and the soft-medium 91 I have.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 25 July 2016, 10:33:19
Can anyone recommend a nice pen for someone who loves stationary but hasn't looked into anything expensive before?  It would be cool to get my girlfriend a decent pen, but I have no idea where to start!

Before investing in a nice pen..

Step one..

DO YOU WRITE much..   if the answer is NO,  I am addicted to the Computer hence KEYBOARD forum..

Then, realize that you are intent on embarking on a vanity quest..

GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, 


if you STILL want to buy a pen..

Lamy is the go to, no surprises... works... looks good... Germans




The most expensive part of the PEN experience, is the TIME it takes to master Penmanship..

The cost of the pen is mostly trivial..


HOWEVER,  should you NEVER manage to write --Pretty--,  then ANY AND ALL money spent on nice Pens will be WASTED..


Like those guys who have nice guitars but can't play or read music. .

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Mon, 25 July 2016, 12:44:05
I write a lot, but found that, after three years of spending hundreds on pens, I always defaulted to my $25 Esterbrook, Lamy, or even rollerball. They're fast and readily available to use.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Jpecina on Mon, 25 July 2016, 14:45:36
Can anyone recommend a nice pen for someone who loves stationary but hasn't looked into anything expensive before?  It would be cool to get my girlfriend a decent pen, but I have no idea where to start!
The metropolitan is definitely a nice pen at a great price. If you wanna spend a little more you could try the Namiki Falcon, I own one personally and it's been a great pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 28 July 2016, 00:15:28
I raised my budget to 150, and I have no idea what to do. I've heard that at this price point, vintage pens are the way to go. I'm looking for a pen that has a unique look that could be used by a younger person.

I have no idea where to start in the world of vintage pens.

EDIT: after talking to FrostyToast on slack, I am leaning towards the Pilot Falcon.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 28 July 2016, 00:39:35
I raised my budget to 150, and I have no idea what to do. I've heard that at this price point, vintage pens are the way to go. I'm looking for a pen that has a unique look that could be used by a younger person.

I have no idea where to start in the world of vintage pens.
There are a lot of good modern pens at the $150 price  point.


If you are after a true flex pen, then you should go vintage. You could find a good waterman 52 1/2 flex nib for under $150.



At that price point, it is by no means only vintage stuff.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: caligo on Sat, 30 July 2016, 07:39:35
I raised my budget to 150, and I have no idea what to do. I've heard that at this price point, vintage pens are the way to go. I'm looking for a pen that has a unique look that could be used by a younger person.

I have no idea where to start in the world of vintage pens.

EDIT: after talking to FrostyToast on slack, I am leaning towards the Pilot Falcon.
You can easily find a Lamy 2000 for 150$. Gold nib, piston filled and a truly iconic design. If I was looking to buy a pen at that price point, that would be my first choice.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 July 2016, 08:31:57
For $150 I'd pick up a pilot vanishing point. Still my edc and favorite fountain pen. Although a Lamy 2000 is a great choice too.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 15 August 2016, 09:34:20
For $150 I'd pick up a pilot vanishing point. Still my edc and favorite fountain pen. Although a Lamy 2000 is a great choice too.

VP as an EDC? Have you gotten any tattoos (https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/3327a9/) yet? :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 15 August 2016, 10:11:06
VP as an EDC? Have you gotten any tattoos (https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/3327a9/) yet? :)

Didn't even realize this was an issue.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 15 August 2016, 11:41:56
VP as an EDC? Have you gotten any tattoos (https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/3327a9/) yet? :)

Didn't even realize this was an issue.

Heh, those posts seem to be a staple of /r/fp, although I assume the likelihood of it happening is pretty strongly rooted in the user's predisposition for carelessness!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 19 August 2016, 09:22:48
I write a lot, but found that, after three years of spending hundreds on pens, I always defaulted to my $25 Esterbrook, Lamy, or even rollerball. They're fast and readily available to use.
After years of spending a lot of money on pens, I now write with Uniball Jetstream. These pens are great.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Fri, 19 August 2016, 09:28:26
I write a lot, but found that, after three years of spending hundreds on pens, I always defaulted to my $25 Esterbrook, Lamy, or even rollerball. They're fast and readily available to use.
After years of spending a lot of money on pens, I now write with Uniball Jetstream. These pens are great.

Ha ha, those are great pens. I use a Zebra F-301 at work.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sun, 28 August 2016, 16:38:53
My haul from the San Francisco Pen Show this weekend:

(http://i.imgur.com/VGkNVUi.jpg)

Some pen flush, bottle of Robert Oster Bondi Blue ink, F-C Model 65 w/18k Masuyama broad italic, the dinkiest little Peter Pan eyedropper with a gold-filled overlay, and a Nakaya Decapod. My handwriting is awful when I'm rushed/tired rofl.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Sun, 28 August 2016, 17:56:22
My haul from the San Francisco Pen Show this weekend:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VGkNVUi.jpg)


Some pen flush, bottle of Robert Oster Bondi Blue ink, F-C Model 65 w/18k Masuyama broad italic, the dinkiest little Peter Pan eyedropper with a gold-filled overlay, and a Nakaya Decapod. My handwriting is awful when I'm rushed/tired rofl.

That eyedropper looks amazing.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 04 September 2016, 21:47:09
Tp4 were practicing writing curse words..

mechanical pencil, and sharpie.


Overall, I think mechanical pencil offers the best control for smaller text. but, obviously, it's hard to vary the line-weight using a pencil.. Even soft pencils have limits.


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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 12 October 2016, 07:12:15
I know it's not related to fountain pens, but I think I finally found the pen to dethrone my now-previous favorite, the G2 .07

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OyH78nQMmnA/Vux2vjbIeFI/AAAAAAAAnfE/LNlNHL_lMoMzroNEA0DHzS3DiGWZDKGsA/s1600/paper%2Bmate%2Binkjoy%2Bgel%2B0.7.jpg)
Note: Not my picture

Writes super smooth, the build quality is quite nice, it's comfortable in the hand, and best of all dries MUCH faster than the G2. Am converted for sure.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 12 October 2016, 07:40:51
I know it's not related to fountain pens, but I think I finally found the pen to dethrone my now-previous favorite, the G2 .07

Show Image
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OyH78nQMmnA/Vux2vjbIeFI/AAAAAAAAnfE/LNlNHL_lMoMzroNEA0DHzS3DiGWZDKGsA/s1600/paper%2Bmate%2Binkjoy%2Bgel%2B0.7.jpg)

Note: Not my picture

Writes super smooth, the build quality is quite nice, it's comfortable in the hand, and best of all dries MUCH faster than the G2. Am converted for sure.
Did you try Uniball Jetstream?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:03:41
I know it's not related to fountain pens, but I think I finally found the pen to dethrone my now-previous favorite, the G2 .07

Show Image
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OyH78nQMmnA/Vux2vjbIeFI/AAAAAAAAnfE/LNlNHL_lMoMzroNEA0DHzS3DiGWZDKGsA/s1600/paper%2Bmate%2Binkjoy%2Bgel%2B0.7.jpg)

Note: Not my picture

Writes super smooth, the build quality is quite nice, it's comfortable in the hand, and best of all dries MUCH faster than the G2. Am converted for sure.
Did you try Uniball Jetstream?

Uni Signo is where it's at. It's my favorite gel pen and the only rollerball pen I use that's thicker than 0.5. Use them daily for class notes.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:20:25
I know it's not related to fountain pens, but I think I finally found the pen to dethrone my now-previous favorite, the G2 .07

Show Image
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OyH78nQMmnA/Vux2vjbIeFI/AAAAAAAAnfE/LNlNHL_lMoMzroNEA0DHzS3DiGWZDKGsA/s1600/paper%2Bmate%2Binkjoy%2Bgel%2B0.7.jpg)

Note: Not my picture

Writes super smooth, the build quality is quite nice, it's comfortable in the hand, and best of all dries MUCH faster than the G2. Am converted for sure.
Did you try Uniball Jetstream?

Uni Signo is where it's at. It's my favorite gel pen and the only rollerball pen I use that's thicker than 0.5. Use them daily for class notes.
But does it dry blazingly fast?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:37:05
I know it's not related to fountain pens, but I think I finally found the pen to dethrone my now-previous favorite, the G2 .07

Show Image
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OyH78nQMmnA/Vux2vjbIeFI/AAAAAAAAnfE/LNlNHL_lMoMzroNEA0DHzS3DiGWZDKGsA/s1600/paper%2Bmate%2Binkjoy%2Bgel%2B0.7.jpg)

Note: Not my picture

Writes super smooth, the build quality is quite nice, it's comfortable in the hand, and best of all dries MUCH faster than the G2. Am converted for sure.
Did you try Uniball Jetstream?

Uni Signo is where it's at. It's my favorite gel pen and the only rollerball pen I use that's thicker than 0.5. Use them daily for class notes.
But does it dry blazingly fast?

Never had it smudge, if that means anything.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 October 2016, 12:45:07
I know it's not related to fountain pens, but I think I finally found the pen to dethrone my now-previous favorite, the G2 .07

Show Image
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OyH78nQMmnA/Vux2vjbIeFI/AAAAAAAAnfE/LNlNHL_lMoMzroNEA0DHzS3DiGWZDKGsA/s1600/paper%2Bmate%2Binkjoy%2Bgel%2B0.7.jpg)

Note: Not my picture

Writes super smooth, the build quality is quite nice, it's comfortable in the hand, and best of all dries MUCH faster than the G2. Am converted for sure.
Did you try Uniball Jetstream?

Uni Signo is where it's at. It's my favorite gel pen and the only rollerball pen I use that's thicker than 0.5. Use them daily for class notes.
But does it dry blazingly fast?

Never had it smudge, if that means anything.

drying speed affects soak through, and blotches more than smudging

Smudging is not a huge problem on any pen, unless you're left handed


All thick gummy inks will smudge though, regardless of how fast drying they are, because when they're laid down,  they come out thick and rise above the paper like two little mountains to the two side of the roller.


The liquid-y type ink wouldn't smudge,  but they will blotch and shadow to the other side of the paper.

The BEST ink..   COMPUTER..   

Idk why you're all still so last century. .


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Wed, 12 October 2016, 15:17:14
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161012/88ab73c4e57fe9750e30bd64a236ec10.jpg)

My grail pen
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:10:21
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161012/88ab73c4e57fe9750e30bd64a236ec10.jpg)


My grail pen

That's awesome!  I just got these @ liquidation,

(http://i.imgur.com/VkaxA7s.jpg)
Title: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:22:10
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161012/88ab73c4e57fe9750e30bd64a236ec10.jpg)


My grail pen

That's awesome!  I just got these @ liquidation,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VkaxA7s.jpg)


WHAT.

Of course, you could tell that I did not get that £3000 pen...

How much was that Omas? What nib?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Thu, 13 October 2016, 15:47:29
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161012/88ab73c4e57fe9750e30bd64a236ec10.jpg)


My grail pen

That's awesome!  I just got these @ liquidation,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VkaxA7s.jpg)


 :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 13 October 2016, 16:38:18
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161012/88ab73c4e57fe9750e30bd64a236ec10.jpg)


My grail pen

That's awesome!  I just got these @ liquidation,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VkaxA7s.jpg)


WHAT.

Of course, you could tell that I did not get that £3000 pen...

How much was that Omas? What nib?

$80 USD Medium Oblique (for right handed)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 13 October 2016, 17:31:12
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161012/88ab73c4e57fe9750e30bd64a236ec10.jpg)


My grail pen

That's awesome!  I just got these @ liquidation,

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VkaxA7s.jpg)


WHAT.

Of course, you could tell that I did not get that £3000 pen...

How much was that Omas? What nib?

$80 USD Medium Oblique (for right handed)

>$80

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 October 2016, 17:34:40
i should buy a nice pen

(http://i.imgur.com/y4eiWOZ.jpg)

that's me actually trying to write well, by the way

i can take a picture of my notebook if you want
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 13 October 2016, 18:01:14
i have no idea what i am talking about
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:49:51
i should buy a nice pen

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y4eiWOZ.jpg)


that's me actually trying to write well, by the way

i can take a picture of my notebook if you want

Stop writing in all caps and use your elbow more than your wrist. Your wrist should be straight.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 18 October 2016, 22:24:59
^^ well even if you wanted to work with all caps... get some lined paper and practice uniform sizing, kerning, shape. Just like we used to do in 1st grade only now you actually give a sh*t lol
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 18 October 2016, 22:58:39
i should buy a nice pen

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y4eiWOZ.jpg)


that's me actually trying to write well, by the way

i can take a picture of my notebook if you want

The NSA thanks you for submitting your wonderful writing sample

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)


Correlation analysis indicate:



Violence: 75%
Infidelity: 87%
Rape: 30%
Murder: 42%
Serial Murderer: 12%
Intelligence Quotient: 104
Keyboard Collector: 100%  <--  Let's go pick um up boys, this guy is up to no good..


//Probable Cause
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 18 October 2016, 23:16:09
close, my IQ is 135

rest of that is probably spot on tho, specially that last bit
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 18 October 2016, 23:18:06
This is not a thread for crapping! Begone ne-'er-do-wells!

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 18 October 2016, 23:20:46
close, my IQ is 135

rest of that is probably spot on tho, specially that last bit


hahaha.. Only a 104 IQ-er would believe an IQ test and had taken one in the first place..

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/evil-smile-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862503)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 18 October 2016, 23:22:18
This is not a thread for crapping! Begone ne-'er-do-wells!

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk



If we don't post some funny responses,   No one would post their writing samples..

THEN how is the NSA gonna catch them bad guyz.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 20 October 2016, 12:12:57
My haul from the San Francisco Pen Show this weekend:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VGkNVUi.jpg)


Some pen flush, bottle of Robert Oster Bondi Blue ink, F-C Model 65 w/18k Masuyama broad italic, the dinkiest little Peter Pan eyedropper with a gold-filled overlay, and a Nakaya Decapod. My handwriting is awful when I'm rushed/tired rofl.

wow.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 04 November 2016, 23:09:25
Happy belated fountain pen day friends!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Fri, 04 November 2016, 23:19:43
Was it really? I could've made a matching avatar.  :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Sat, 05 November 2016, 20:21:35
Was it really? I could've made a matching avatar.  :(

nice avatar for today :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Sun, 06 November 2016, 01:17:02
Was it really? I could've made a matching avatar.  :(

nice avatar for today :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Sun, 06 November 2016, 05:22:58
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161106/aeb07152bb1b4da0beaf8dda327993ef.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161106/ba36429e2c721b4daf88eb81fee62474.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sun, 06 November 2016, 09:11:14
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161106/aeb07152bb1b4da0beaf8dda327993ef.jpg)
Show Image
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161106/ba36429e2c721b4daf88eb81fee62474.jpg)


That's a lovely MB.  I really like anything of theirs with a flat top.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 07 November 2016, 15:06:54
Flat tops are my personal favourites... I prefer them to cigars.


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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: DanB on Tue, 15 November 2016, 20:56:55
Any of you guys want me to take some pics of my Grayson Tighe Damascus steel pen?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 15 November 2016, 21:43:48
Any of you guys want me to take some pics of my Grayson Tighe Damascus steel pen?

That's what this thread is for...

Hey PollandAkuma,

Hooray for flat tops!

(http://i.imgur.com/wA4xk20.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Wed, 16 November 2016, 12:09:20
Any of you guys want me to take some pics of my Grayson Tighe Damascus steel pen?

That's what this thread is for...

Hey PollandAkuma,

Hooray for flat tops!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wA4xk20.jpg)


Hey! Which edition is that? Flat tops FTW!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 16 November 2016, 13:21:21
Any of you guys want me to take some pics of my Grayson Tighe Damascus steel pen?

That's what this thread is for...

Hey PollandAkuma,

Hooray for flat tops!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wA4xk20.jpg)


Hey! Which edition is that? Flat tops FTW!

William Shakespeare 2016 writer's edition.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: DanB on Wed, 16 November 2016, 21:11:01
Probably my favorite pen to write with daily.

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 17 November 2016, 07:23:41
Probably my favorite pen to write with daily.

(Attachment Link)
Is this Baystate Blue? I don't know much about blue ink, but this one looks good.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: DanB on Thu, 17 November 2016, 14:03:49
IIRC this pen has Aurora Blue ink
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grona on Fri, 18 November 2016, 01:20:52
My current pen collection so far

From top to bottom:
Franklin Christoph pocket 66
Sailor Pro Gear Slim
Pilot vanishing point Raeden galaxy
Lamy 2000
two TWSBI eco
TWSBI 580 diamond rose gold
Pilot custom demonstrator 823
(http://i.imgur.com/bFBwqnV.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 18 November 2016, 06:50:32
My current pen collection so far

From top to bottom:
Franklin Christoph pocket 66
Sailor Pro Gear Slim
Pilot vanishing point Raeden galaxy
Lamy 2000
two TWSBI eco
TWSBI 580 diamond rose gold
Pilot custom demonstrator 823
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(http://i.imgur.com/bFBwqnV.jpg)


v-nice some of my favorite pens in that lineup.

Was taking some pictures of the good ol conid last night :3

(http://i.imgur.com/2M6oF9A.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cAAd2dN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ypE7y4n.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grona on Fri, 18 November 2016, 09:54:52
My current pen collection so far

From top to bottom:
Franklin Christoph pocket 66
Sailor Pro Gear Slim
Pilot vanishing point Raeden galaxy
Lamy 2000
two TWSBI eco
TWSBI 580 diamond rose gold
Pilot custom demonstrator 823
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bFBwqnV.jpg)


v-nice some of my favorite pens in that lineup.

Was taking some pictures of the good ol conid last night :3

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2M6oF9A.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/cAAd2dN.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ypE7y4n.jpg)


That's also a sweet pen. Also what ink is that in the last picture?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 18 November 2016, 11:09:11
My current pen collection so far

From top to bottom:
Franklin Christoph pocket 66
Sailor Pro Gear Slim
Pilot vanishing point Raeden galaxy
Lamy 2000
two TWSBI eco
TWSBI 580 diamond rose gold
Pilot custom demonstrator 823
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bFBwqnV.jpg)


v-nice some of my favorite pens in that lineup.

Was taking some pictures of the good ol conid last night :3

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2M6oF9A.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/cAAd2dN.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ypE7y4n.jpg)


That's also a sweet pen. Also what ink is that in the last picture?

The ink is Mont Blanc - Lavender Purple

There's nothing lavender about it.  Very deep rich violet.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Fri, 18 November 2016, 18:45:49
I'd love to have a good ol' Conid meself  :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 19 November 2016, 18:52:36
I really miss my Twsbi, I gotta invest in another pen when I can.


Might look out for a vintage waterman, or some other vintage flex pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Sat, 19 November 2016, 20:19:18
I really miss my Twsbi, I gotta invest in another pen when I can.


Might look out for a vintage waterman, or some other vintage flex pen.

why not just go for falcon? ez flex

add spencerian mod and make it nicer ;)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 19 November 2016, 20:45:23
I really miss my Twsbi, I gotta invest in another pen when I can.


Might look out for a vintage waterman, or some other vintage flex pen.

why not just go for falcon? ez flex

add spencerian mod and make it nicer ;)
I quite like the falcon and the spencerian mod is nice, but I heard there were some problems with the increased flow with the mod.


And I dig the older watermans.  :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 22 November 2016, 11:16:48
I really miss my Twsbi, I gotta invest in another pen when I can.


Might look out for a vintage waterman, or some other vintage flex pen.

why not just go for falcon? ez flex

add spencerian mod and make it nicer ;)

I found the falcon a chore to write with in relation to its cousins with the FA style nibs which don't have the 'hook bill'
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Mon, 28 November 2016, 04:11:10
I have too many pens.

I want more pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Tue, 29 November 2016, 17:49:22
I need more. Sold my L2K, now I need a Liliput


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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sun, 25 December 2016, 01:20:18
So I may have bought a thing. A very expensive thing. A very beautiful expensive thing I probably have no business owning buuut...

http://imgur.com/a/BPAfc

Well. Pen deserves much better photos than I can take at night but screw it I couldn't wait.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Sun, 25 December 2016, 22:58:57
So I may have bought a thing. A very expensive thing. A very beautiful expensive thing I probably have no business owning buuut...

http://imgur.com/a/BPAfc

Well. Pen deserves much better photos than I can take at night but screw it I couldn't wait.
?!?! I love your little peter pan!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sun, 25 December 2016, 23:24:50
It's the most adorkably tiny thing that won't set you back $3k ever. (The Waterman 'Doll' is much smaller but if you can find one, expect to pay multiple thousands if it's even for sale.)

The pen for more information: https://newtonpens.com/thompson-orville-in-omas-arco-brown-hope-for-haiti-auction-live/

It's a pen Shawn Newton made from pen stock acquired from Omas after they went under as an auction pen with the profits going to charity. It was hideously expensive but the money went to a good cause and it's a gloriously beautiful pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: elecplus on Mon, 26 December 2016, 14:02:32
I guess I am showing my age if I mention that ball point pens did not exist where I lived as a child. Pencils got sharpened with a single-sided razor blade, and the only pens were fountain pens with rubber squeeze bulbs. These tended to leak or explode at very inopportune times. Our school uniforms were stained almost daily with India ink. Maybe I will pick up a newer style pen and try it again. We did learn excellentpenmanship. If the teacher had to struggle at all to read your assignment or essay, it was an automatic 0 for the assignment.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 27 December 2016, 04:21:45
I guess I am showing my age if I mention that ball point pens did not exist where I lived as a child. Pencils got sharpened with a single-sided razor blade, and the only pens were fountain pens with rubber squeeze bulbs. These tended to leak or explode at very inopportune times. Our school uniforms were stained almost daily with India ink. Maybe I will pick up a newer style pen and try it again. We did learn excellentpenmanship. If the teacher had to struggle at all to read your assignment or essay, it was an automatic 0 for the assignment.

Things have come a little way since then ;)

I love my fountain pens, even though I'm only at the bottom end of the scale.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Tue, 27 December 2016, 23:28:54
I guess I am showing my age if I mention that ball point pens did not exist where I lived as a child. Pencils got sharpened with a single-sided razor blade, and the only pens were fountain pens with rubber squeeze bulbs. These tended to leak or explode at very inopportune times. Our school uniforms were stained almost daily with India ink. Maybe I will pick up a newer style pen and try it again. We did learn excellentpenmanship. If the teacher had to struggle at all to read your assignment or essay, it was an automatic 0 for the assignment.
I wish my handwriting was better... definitely pick up fountain pens again! More than nostalgia, they are a pleasure to write with. I can recommend you good ones that I guarantee will not explode xD
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Olumin on Wed, 11 January 2017, 12:31:49
I just got this beauty here today:

(http://d3gyiijzpk1c44.cloudfront.net/upload/product_photos/base/0/1/242/original3.127739.1.jpg)

I have terrible Handwriting so I wont bother anyone with it, I got this pen more because of its unique mechanism. The 14k Gold nib writes buttery smooth tho. Mine is a M. Lamy Dialog 3 for anyone who is interested. I got mine for a fantastic price so I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Spopepro on Thu, 12 January 2017, 13:08:14
I just made an impulse buy. Nakaya naka-ai writer in the now discontinued ao-tamenuri finish. It will also be my first modified nib. It was way more than I think I should be spending on a pen, even though I did get a good deal on it. Now to keep practicing my bookhand...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 18 January 2017, 02:12:21
I guess I am showing my age if I mention that ball point pens did not exist where I lived as a child. Pencils got sharpened with a single-sided razor blade, and the only pens were fountain pens with rubber squeeze bulbs. These tended to leak or explode at very inopportune times. Our school uniforms were stained almost daily with India ink. Maybe I will pick up a newer style pen and try it again. We did learn excellentpenmanship. If the teacher had to struggle at all to read your assignment or essay, it was an automatic 0 for the assignment.
I wish my handwriting was better... definitely pick up fountain pens again! More than nostalgia, they are a pleasure to write with. I can recommend you good ones that I guarantee will not explode xD

My hand writing is terrible (always has been), but I feel better about it using fountain pens.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: CoolGrayAJ on Thu, 19 January 2017, 17:34:00
Those Montblancs are making me feel some type of way. Here's my contribution. Stargazer x Iroshizuku x Leuchtturm1917
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 20 January 2017, 10:04:42
Those Montblancs are making me feel some type of way. Here's my contribution. Stargazer x Iroshizuku x Leuchtturm1917

(http://i.imgur.com/28VsyO9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ru838a4.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sun, 22 January 2017, 02:44:12
I've got a kuro-tamenuri Nakaya Decapod Cigar soft medium in the mail as we speak. I can't wait.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: WidgiePidge on Sun, 22 January 2017, 09:06:31
I've got a kuro-tamenuri Nakaya Decapod Cigar soft medium in the mail as we speak. I can't wait.

Those are so pretty!  Faceted and urushi lacquered makes for one heck of a combo.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grona on Mon, 23 January 2017, 11:59:04
Those Montblancs are making me feel some type of way. Here's my contribution. Stargazer x Iroshizuku x Leuchtturm1917

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/28VsyO9.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ru838a4.jpg)


Absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 24 January 2017, 08:52:18
New Decapod is here to join the old one:

http://www.iankunx.net/decapods.jpg

For some reason it's not embedding, so deal with a link.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Tue, 24 January 2017, 13:38:12
New Decapod is here to join the old one:

http://www.iankunx.net/decapods.jpg

For some reason it's not embedding, so deal with a link.
Beautiful...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 24 January 2017, 20:37:48
Have not posted here in a while.............check out my inexpensive Noodlers Konrad with a $1.50 Zebra nib ;D

Sorry for the tater pix, but you get the idea

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:49:44
I haven't used my Platinum Plaisir for 1.5 years. Opened it yesterday and the ink hadn't dried!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Grona on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:31:51
Have not posted here in a while.............check out my inexpensive Noodlers Konrad with a $1.50 Zebra nib ;D

Sorry for the tater pix, but you get the idea

That's pretty sweet. I've been thinking about getting a pen with a flex nib for a while now.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 26 January 2017, 12:57:45
Have not posted here in a while.............check out my inexpensive Noodlers Konrad with a $1.50 Zebra nib ;D

Sorry for the tater pix, but you get the idea

That's pretty sweet. I've been thinking about getting a pen with a flex nib for a while now.

Yes and it is INEXPENSIVE............under $20.00 for the pen too :thumb:

If you are leery for swapping it out send it to me and I will swap out free of charge. I have some extra Zebra nibs around here somewhere? It is not as soft as a gold nib, however as you can see the amount of flex is pretty sick as is. I recommend using Noodlers lubricated ink as well. The feed which is already ebonite in a Konrad or Ahab once altered and adjusted does well to keep up, is wet as compared to a plastic feed ;D

I put a Zebra titanium nib in a Waterman 100 pen that is pretty crazy too. The stainless seems to "give" a little more than the titanium and no corrosion to speak of for over a year-- albeit I stick to Noodlers Eel and Polar inks.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 30 January 2017, 02:15:11
I picked up a #6 flex nib from that company in India and stuffed it in one of my Deltas.. great nib. Wish i could remember the company but its generic like Fountain Pen Factory or something like that. I have a Noodlers flex and its ok... once you spend the time to tune it up and hopefully get it to work right.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Mon, 30 January 2017, 08:06:17
Noodler's is the Razer of fountain pens. /troll
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Mon, 30 January 2017, 09:27:11
Noodler's is the Razer of fountain pens. /troll

He's right, you know.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Spopepro on Mon, 30 January 2017, 09:36:07
Noodler's is the Razer of fountain pens. /troll

She's right, you know.

FIFY, but I only know because I've had the opportunity to meet Nai at a meetup. No offense meant to any parties.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Mon, 30 January 2017, 09:37:53
Noodler's is the Razer of fountain pens. /troll

She's right, you know.

FIFY, but I only know because I've had the opportunity to meet Nai at a meetup. No offense meant to any parties.

Damn it; and I was going to edit it as S/He, too.
I would've gotten away with if it weren't for you meddling kids.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 30 January 2017, 10:16:13
Noodler's is the Razer of fountain pens. /troll

Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahaha....

for pens... ur probably right.. although they're not nearly as popular as razer...


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Mon, 30 January 2017, 11:52:16
But Noodler's pens smell so good. The smell is the only thing I miss from them.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 30 January 2017, 12:31:00
Worst color pencil on the Market !!

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 30 January 2017, 15:21:06
How come people no post more hand writing.. ??

right there in the title, Handwriting..   

Also, heard somewhere, Geekhack is full of Sifos..  How come Tp4 is only one writing in Sifo..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: digi on Mon, 30 January 2017, 15:21:50
Worst color pencil on the Market !!

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Does that say "nee shu dabien"? :D
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 30 January 2017, 15:22:46
Worst color pencil on the Market !!

(Attachment Link)

Does that say "nee shu dabien"? :D

Hahahahaha.....hahahahahahahahahahahha
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 01 February 2017, 15:56:47
--moved to new thread
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Sat, 11 March 2017, 19:35:44
Noodler's is the Razer of fountain pens. /troll

Couldn't disagree more............Nathan made his pens to be disassembled for easy cleaning and most important to give the buyer the option of swapping out to a better nib. They come with an above average ebonite feed......in various mechanisms for filling , whch some can be easily converted to an ED. Some of my favorite pens are Noodlers pens I have R/R the nib to 14k and wet noodle flex nibs.

Little investment and big yield.......... :thumb:

This thread appears to be dying..........sad :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Sun, 12 March 2017, 00:28:21
I just picked up a Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with FA nib a few weeks ago. I cant wait to send it off to Mike Masuyama to have the flow increased. The pen isnt designed for flex but it does so so well that most people have the flow increased so it can keep up while flexing and this pen is a dream to write with compared to my steel nib pens.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/i0oZ1XEx1CNkQEyUhds7gIF3uD_FX6UR_5ljMkhioBbfp1UbP5Y8OSM6B4XB3eDkIRfVhE5-t75ygrgHqIGD3636Mj0EtFXf35kYqWQtS8P_n2P6xHw4WVAM-0NKXtbNoC4-Jc6by6zbpXcRft0PKthBsQJs4zQPL-NAUZXp3aW0eskoqJ86WikI32IUr7QkqckMHnXe2yBWymiB81KUkxAMi2ySo_Hs8tKOxBbom9rmBjsRpiWqduAZ-J_zKrTu7IZzYq0NW2fESSBrCMgmm7hF6ZO6OKoF91xh6wJQBifGDJDjfICmb3EtXH_26LUgmhUrMhfd47Pn0XjYZRDWfqQ7MRepJRJUqSHUcyLaoAci5xKTYFDJ2piyPykrlaUonIAjdBevd14yl8vPCcIzSngtEt4Sz7lenLIPszW4oBtSj1Mds_YEFImRhoiESQzbNEIGprB9_untkxkaZUh3umaoe5LLvtgC34V-5Mq3n5DNNYvY8ZwN6euA81jFPqCoe_baGdafYSojjX0UmFKQ0T5om5ktgySoMZBsfWjCnKb2jBIvaQSmFVeIvO94KHmGefBeIJ4sjb2I9K4gGTtVzwLqGBkqgZ4SKZX2CSnY0EzhSZUcaaZu=w1007-h755-no)

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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JU09gJaQFNKw19CmmXp-W7wPVU7ACJt4-QVId9qhb6TT79aMGo9GzuOvfBZgo-uikOiMmkxhPThWqgKGvuLZV1YtjJQCv12IVcp2cZ3BWr3zVAKwoVJgDes4y-_5dyjJbdzfMx5yVihLYxuBW4-PtpueQL83VF2eftHPcrVoUxRAi30PJY_SjLC2hdeSBjgicghlAxdBGCXA9t1ZO08LIeu7lvm1R1u1KmqLBMh7F4lVrt0qIn3n3K2ohh_RSb-O8py1P7OvTl30Axl5DP3ON-lSin4rYEVgZwQrYCE8lLBpGkQKy3uwEI0DFHGhIRdji4qmcM8zLcBbjH41yVPBydeoLDkLqTaeyl3l-B_-f9i90HudGkNbPwij2kYOIWVZZccaewyDacd9wCktCkBXNbqcfKrU0b7sP1xnrNswl-22z57YqSvH8pM062DYWoBynn_QqswX-8DeJy-hPnSrnJu6xRVcC_wIBwhZgiCUZBhyn97DMIm9UBgWjR8rAgcbwXXah88XtuWBuo7A0q_pDle-7lLmdZxqSLE8eqC4wrAMYXqllxN9ncB-IhFxmfKFTa7WwBcYR4LSApprZIFyMgGnaMkT5R8-sMHTGOXX0wKs3iF-RYrk=w1007-h755-no)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FLOCKA on Mon, 13 March 2017, 18:55:51
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Tue, 14 March 2017, 04:42:32
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?
If you really want nice soft smooth flex you should look at vintage pens. They are the best <3
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Tue, 14 March 2017, 20:42:49
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?
If you really want nice soft smooth flex you should look at vintage pens. They are the best <3


PollandAkuma is right you cant beat a hand forged gold nib for flex. That said I was looking at the Falcon before I decided on the Custom Heritage 912. The 912 FA(falcon) nib is similar to the nib on the Falcon but it is different. You get the same amount of flex but unless you get the "Metal Falcon) you are stuck using a small con50 or a rubber bladder con20 like in the metropolitan. The 912 can take a nice con70.  Neither the Falcon nor the 912's  feed is capable of keeping up with flex and will need to be adjusted by a nibmeister. I like the 912 far better than the steel flex nibs but you have to be careful as it is soft and can spring easy. I'm sending mine off to Mike to have the flow increased so it keeps up with flexing.


Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 14 March 2017, 21:45:58
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?
If you really want nice soft smooth flex you should look at vintage pens. They are the best <3


PollandAkuma is right you cant beat a hand forged gold nib for flex. That said I was looking at the Falcon before I decided on the Custom Heritage 912. The 912 FA(falcon) nib is similar to the nib on the Falcon but it is different. You get the same amount of flex but unless you get the "Metal Falcon) you are stuck using a small con50 or a rubber bladder con20 like in the metropolitan. The 912 can take a nice con70.  Neither the Falcon nor the 912's  feed is capable of keeping up with flex and will need to be adjusted by a nibmeister. I like the 912 far better than the steel flex nibs but you have to be careful as it is soft and can spring easy. I'm sending mine off to Mike to have the flow increased so it keeps up with flexing.




Vintage is definitely the way to go

I highly recommenend gregminuskin.com (http://gregminuskin.com) for vintage or any flex. You can grab a restored, vintage Skyline for example with his hairline needle point that does well in Copperplate, Spencerian, etc. for $160.00-$180.00. He does a lot of Waterman's, etc. As well. Have bought numerous pens, nibs, etc. and he does great work for a fair price.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Wed, 15 March 2017, 00:00:31
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?
If you really want nice soft smooth flex you should look at vintage pens. They are the best <3


PollandAkuma is right you cant beat a hand forged gold nib for flex. That said I was looking at the Falcon before I decided on the Custom Heritage 912. The 912 FA(falcon) nib is similar to the nib on the Falcon but it is different. You get the same amount of flex but unless you get the "Metal Falcon) you are stuck using a small con50 or a rubber bladder con20 like in the metropolitan. The 912 can take a nice con70.  Neither the Falcon nor the 912's  feed is capable of keeping up with flex and will need to be adjusted by a nibmeister. I like the 912 far better than the steel flex nibs but you have to be careful as it is soft and can spring easy. I'm sending mine off to Mike to have the flow increased so it keeps up with flexing.




Vintage is definitely the way to go

I highly recommenend gregminuskin.com (http://gregminuskin.com) for vintage or any flex. You can grab a restored, vintage Skyline for example with his hairline needle point that does well in Copperplate, Spencerian, etc. for $160.00-$180.00. He does a lot of Waterman's, etc. As well. Have bought numerous pens, nibs, etc. and he does great work for a fair price.

I'm going to have to keep an eye out there. I'm going to get a noodle but I just don't know what I want. I hope to make it to the Chicago pen show in May and maybe get to hold a few to see what I like. I know most are going to write amazing if restored proper and well tuned so it's more how it feels in my hand. Waterman 52 i very popular and I'd love to get to hold one or even try one out. It has to look good to me too.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 15 March 2017, 01:54:01
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 15 March 2017, 13:31:03
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?
If you really want nice soft smooth flex you should look at vintage pens. They are the best <3


PollandAkuma is right you cant beat a hand forged gold nib for flex. That said I was looking at the Falcon before I decided on the Custom Heritage 912. The 912 FA(falcon) nib is similar to the nib on the Falcon but it is different. You get the same amount of flex but unless you get the "Metal Falcon) you are stuck using a small con50 or a rubber bladder con20 like in the metropolitan. The 912 can take a nice con70.  Neither the Falcon nor the 912's  feed is capable of keeping up with flex and will need to be adjusted by a nibmeister. I like the 912 far better than the steel flex nibs but you have to be careful as it is soft and can spring easy. I'm sending mine off to Mike to have the flow increased so it keeps up with flexing.




Vintage is definitely the way to go

I highly recommenend gregminuskin.com (http://gregminuskin.com) for vintage or any flex. You can grab a restored, vintage Skyline for example with his hairline needle point that does well in Copperplate, Spencerian, etc. for $160.00-$180.00. He does a lot of Waterman's, etc. As well. Have bought numerous pens, nibs, etc. and he does great work for a fair price.

I'm going to have to keep an eye out there. I'm going to get a noodle but I just don't know what I want. I hope to make it to the Chicago pen show in May and maybe get to hold a few to see what I like. I know most are going to write amazing if restored proper and well tuned so it's more how it feels in my hand. Waterman 52 i very popular and I'd love to get to hold one or even try one out. It has to look good to me too.

Not to disappoint, but you will pay major bux if you find a true"noodle," they rarely exist even though some sellers say they are. What you will find is they are more flex to full flex, which is not a noodle. Full flex just takes a little more pressure, but will do the trick. My guess is at a Show you will not find any "full flex" sub $200.00.......... :-\
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Wed, 15 March 2017, 14:56:54
Yea, I'm prepared for the price. From what I have seen a Waterman 52 in very good condition but still needing some restore goes for 200-300 then your looking at another 200 in part/service for the restore. I only use the W52 as an example because I've been able to research it the best because of it's popularity. I don't yet know which pen I will be looking for and I expect that will have a massive impact on the price range I will be looking at.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 15 March 2017, 20:58:26
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?

You've just found yourself another money sink :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Wed, 15 March 2017, 22:33:07
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?

You've just found yourself another money sink :p

Money sink? Na these pens are not expensive.

http://elephant-coral.com/product/dandelion-dragonfly-pen/

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 16 March 2017, 20:55:16
I finally dipped my toe into the world of fountain pens this week with the humble Pilot Metropolitan. I immediately fell in love and now I'm searching for a nicer one to see what improvements I can get with a larger budget.

I like the idea of a soft, flexible nib and am eyeing the Pilot Falcon. To be honest, I strongly prefer Japanese-made pens, but I'm wondering if that's an ideal/natural 2nd choice, or if I should look elsewhere...?

You've just found yourself another money sink :p

Money sink? Na these pens are not expensive.

http://elephant-coral.com/product/dandelion-dragonfly-pen/

:eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 17 March 2017, 12:01:04
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Made in Fedoskino in Russia
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 17 March 2017, 12:04:08
Does anybody know of a fountain pen that just writes? Without scratching, skipping, late starting or being too dry?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 17 March 2017, 12:12:16

:eek:

Yea, it gives you hacker skills + 10..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:07:50
Does anybody know of a fountain pen that just writes? Without scratching, skipping, late starting or being too dry?

All of my Japanese pens, German Pelikans, TWSBI's write when they are uncapped. I keep Noodlers Polar or Eel Ink in them, which maybe it is because it is a lubricating ink never seem hard to start?

The Pilots, Platinums, Sailors, Pelikans with gold nibs are all pretty smooth out the box. The TWSBI's depending on which nib you get sometimes need a pass or 2 over some 12,000 paper as well as the steel Pelikan nibs, but they never hesitate, skip or are hard to start?

Inexpensive steel nib Lamy's and Pilot's are a safe bet............ :thumb: Sometimes Noodler Pens can be a little testy, but since they have ebonite feeds if you seat or set them to the nib it usually will go away
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 14:32:31
My handwriting is terrible but sometimes with a good pen I can actually write pretty decently.  What's a good entry level fountain pen?  Thanks

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:17:58
Does anybody know of a fountain pen that just writes? Without scratching, skipping, late starting or being too dry?

All of my Japanese pens, German Pelikans, TWSBI's write when they are uncapped. I keep Noodlers Polar or Eel Ink in them, which maybe it is because it is a lubricating ink never seem hard to start?
Probably that's the reason. I have two Platinum Plaisirs right now and they both have issues. One is filled with Carbon, another one with Platinum's brown ink. I've had similar problems with Pilot's. Never had any TWSBI's or Pelikan's... Are there any non-German ones?

The Pilots, Platinums, Sailors, Pelikans with gold nibs are all pretty smooth out the box.
I've used two of these with gold nibs: a Pilot Capless which was drying out no matter what and a Platinum PTL-5000 which has this Platinum's 'drag' on paper. Gonna sell it because of that. Can't remember if it had problems with ink feed.

Inexpensive steel nib Lamy's and Pilot's are a safe bet............
I've had a Safari filled with blue Quink which was drying out constantly. I threw it away eventually :(
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:32:56
My handwriting is terrible but sometimes with a good pen I can actually write pretty decently.  What's a good entry level fountain pen?  Thanks

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I suggest getting a TWSBI Eco from Pendleton Brown with one of his BLS nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:40:04
Does anybody know of a fountain pen that just writes? Without scratching, skipping, late starting or being too dry?

All of my Japanese pens, German Pelikans, TWSBI's write when they are uncapped. I keep Noodlers Polar or Eel Ink in them, which maybe it is because it is a lubricating ink never seem hard to start?
Probably that's the reason. I have two Platinum Plaisirs right now and they both have issues. One is filled with Carbon, another one with Platinum's brown ink. I've had similar problems with Pilot's. Never had any TWSBI's or Pelikan's... Are there any non-German ones?

The Pilots, Platinums, Sailors, Pelikans with gold nibs are all pretty smooth out the box.
I've used two of these with gold nibs: a Pilot Capless which was drying out no matter what and a Platinum PTL-5000 which has this Platinum's 'drag' on paper. Gonna sell it because of that. Can't remember if it had problems with ink feed.

Inexpensive steel nib Lamy's and Pilot's are a safe bet............
I've had a Safari filled with blue Quink which was drying out constantly. I threw it away eventually :(

Why don't you buy a bottle of Noodlers Polar Black or Blue, it comes with a free pen (Eye Dropper) and try out the pen and putting some ink in your other pens and see what happens? I took the nib that came with the "free pen" out and inserted a 14k :p The pen is a little thin, but holds a ton of ink and I cannot seem to put it down- writes a little on the wet side, no leaks, starts up with no problem.

If you buy a Noodlers Konrad ($18.00) or an Ahab you can swap the nib out with one of Goulet's or Anderson Pens #6 nib.........one of the best buys out there. Very smooth and it's a good nib!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:05:04
Does anybody know of a fountain pen that just writes? Without scratching, skipping, late starting or being too dry?

All of my Japanese pens, German Pelikans, TWSBI's write when they are uncapped. I keep Noodlers Polar or Eel Ink in them, which maybe it is because it is a lubricating ink never seem hard to start?
Probably that's the reason. I have two Platinum Plaisirs right now and they both have issues. One is filled with Carbon, another one with Platinum's brown ink. I've had similar problems with Pilot's. Never had any TWSBI's or Pelikan's... Are there any non-German ones?

The Pilots, Platinums, Sailors, Pelikans with gold nibs are all pretty smooth out the box.
I've used two of these with gold nibs: a Pilot Capless which was drying out no matter what and a Platinum PTL-5000 which has this Platinum's 'drag' on paper. Gonna sell it because of that. Can't remember if it had problems with ink feed.

Inexpensive steel nib Lamy's and Pilot's are a safe bet............
I've had a Safari filled with blue Quink which was drying out constantly. I threw it away eventually :(

Why don't you buy a bottle of Noodlers Polar Black or Blue, it comes with a free pen (Eye Dropper) and try out the pen and putting some ink in your other pens and see what happens? I took the nib that came with the "free pen" out and inserted a 14k :p The pen is a little thin, but holds a ton of ink and I cannot seem to put it down- writes a little on the wet side, no leaks, starts up with no problem.

If you buy a Noodlers Konrad ($18.00) or an Ahab you can swap the nib out with one of Goulet's or Anderson Pens #6 nib.........one of the best buys out there. Very smooth and it's a good nib!
I'll buy a Polar or Eel sampler and put the ink somewhere :P I don't like Noodler's pens because I don't like screw-on caps.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Fri, 17 March 2017, 21:37:26
I'll buy a Polar or Eel sampler and put the ink somewhere :P I don't like Noodler's pens because I don't like screw-on caps.

If you don't like screw-on caps, your choices might be somewhat limited. In my experience, the best-performing pens out of the box have been my gold-nibbed Pilots but they all have screw-on caps. I believe there is a vintage-style Pilot with a slip-cap but I haven't had an opportunity to try that one.

Have you tried the Lamy Studio or Lamy 2000?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 21:49:08
My handwriting is terrible but sometimes with a good pen I can actually write pretty decently.  What's a good entry level fountain pen?  Thanks

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I suggest getting a TWSBI Eco from Pendleton Brown with one of his BLS nibs.
I'll check it out.  Thanks

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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 18 March 2017, 00:49:31
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Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sat, 18 March 2017, 04:21:50
I'll buy a Polar or Eel sampler and put the ink somewhere :P I don't like Noodler's pens because I don't like screw-on caps.

If you don't like screw-on caps, your choices might be somewhat limited. In my experience, the best-performing pens out of the box have been my gold-nibbed Pilots but they all have screw-on caps. I believe there is a vintage-style Pilot with a slip-cap but I haven't had an opportunity to try that one.

Have you tried the Lamy Studio or Lamy 2000?
Somewhat limited to 57489302 pens instead of 63890214? I've had a gold-nibbed Pilot, yeah, a VP; it had issues. Lamy Studio has the same nib and feeder as the Safari with which I had issues. As for 2000, I don't want to buy another expensive pen to see if it fails me or not. I'd rather buy its multicolour version, fill it with Uni's hybrid ink refills and know it will be absolutely reliable.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Sat, 18 March 2017, 13:34:34
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I'll buy a Polar or Eel sampler and put the ink somewhere :P I don't like Noodler's pens because I don't like screw-on caps.

In my experience only about 20% of fountain pens are snap cap. That should still leave you plenty to choose from.

You can get an idea of what is available by going to GPC as they have an option to filter pens by snap cap, here is a link to the filtered list:

https://www.gouletpens.com/fountain-pens/c/12/?sortBy=productName+asc&facetValueFilter=Tenant~Cap_Type%3Asnap_cap

That's nowhere near all inclusive but it's a good place to get started as you can see what brands offer the option.

I like Polar Blue, but it's horrible on everyday paper so keep that in mind, but I also use wet and not fine tip pens so your experience could be different depending on you pen of choice.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Rayoui on Sat, 18 March 2017, 17:20:17
I'll buy a Polar or Eel sampler and put the ink somewhere :P I don't like Noodler's pens because I don't like screw-on caps.

If you don't like screw-on caps, your choices might be somewhat limited. In my experience, the best-performing pens out of the box have been my gold-nibbed Pilots but they all have screw-on caps. I believe there is a vintage-style Pilot with a slip-cap but I haven't had an opportunity to try that one.

Have you tried the Lamy Studio or Lamy 2000?
Somewhat limited to 57489302 pens instead of 63890214? I've had a gold-nibbed Pilot, yeah, a VP; it had issues. Lamy Studio has the same nib and feeder as the Safari with which I had issues. As for 2000, I don't want to buy another expensive pen to see if it fails me or not. I'd rather buy its multicolour version, fill it with Uni's hybrid ink refills and know it will be absolutely reliable.

The overwhelming majority of fountain pens have screw-on caps. By gold-nibbed Pilots, I was not referring to the VP as you already said you had problems with that one. The VP is somewhat unique as far as fountain pens go. However, it doesn't matter anyways as most Pilots have screw-on caps. Maybe try the Pilot E95S?

There is a version of the Lamy Studio with a 14k nib. That's the one I was referring to. I've found that, generally, gold-nibbed pens tend to write a little wetter than steel. A well-tuned steel nib can be just as good though. If you are on a budget, perhaps you could send one of your current pens for a nib/feed tuning.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: WhiteHelix on Sat, 18 March 2017, 17:38:03
I own a few fountain pens atm, but regarding im working out in the field at customers most time when I write something in work and mostly mail in the office, I use ball pens at work. The best one I got until now is a Schneider Slider Rave, I love the "Viscoglide" thing they use on that one. Makes writing really nice and smooth.

Although I have at home a Pilot Metropolitan (love that one, really awesome especially for the price), a Lamy Vista and a Lamy Safari Aluminium with Converter. For Ink I use the Pelikan 4001 in black, I really like the color more than the classic blue.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zombii on Sat, 18 March 2017, 20:38:37
Didn't realize GH had an FP thread...

Currently have a Pilot VP EF inked with Iroshizuku Kon-Peki, a TWSBI 580 Diamond Rose Gold EF inked with Iroshizuku Ajisai, a Visconti Rembrandt F inked with Pelikan Edelstein Jade, and a LAMY Safari EF inked with Pelikan Edelstein Jade.

I also have a couple generic fountain pens that I use for random stuff with some generic black cartridges. I'm hoping to pick up a Sailor Pro Gear with the two-tone nib soon though. That or a LAMY 2k... I haven't decided which yet.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: sems on Sun, 19 March 2017, 03:41:28
Most of my pens are left back in Istanbul and here I am building a new stable in Singapore. Just got Pilot Metropolitan with M nib and Iroshizuku Yamabudo with Sailor Yamaguri. Waiting to recieve Lamy Vista with B nib and various Preppies with EF, F and M nibs. Can buy couple more Iroshizukus or Sailors because the prices for these inks are really low here. 15$ for Iroshizuku, hell yeah!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sun, 19 March 2017, 05:49:02
The overwhelming majority of fountain pens have screw-on caps. By gold-nibbed Pilots, I was not referring to the VP as you already said you had problems with that one. The VP is somewhat unique as far as fountain pens go. However, it doesn't matter anyways as most Pilots have screw-on caps. Maybe try the Pilot E95S?

There is a version of the Lamy Studio with a 14k nib. That's the one I was referring to. I've found that, generally, gold-nibbed pens tend to write a little wetter than steel. A well-tuned steel nib can be just as good though. If you are on a budget, perhaps you could send one of your current pens for a nib/feed tuning.
Thanks for your advice, but I would ideally prefer a pen that writes well out of the box and doesn't cost over 100 GBP.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sun, 19 March 2017, 05:53:32
I like Polar Blue, but it's horrible on everyday paper so keep that in mind, but I also use wet and not fine tip pens so your experience could be different depending on you pen of choice.
I usually use Rhodia or Clairefontaine. And wet writers, yes. My Platinum's with medium nibs lay pretty generous lines of ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zombii on Sun, 19 March 2017, 15:18:51
I like Polar Blue, but it's horrible on everyday paper so keep that in mind, but I also use wet and not fine tip pens so your experience could be different depending on you pen of choice.
I usually use Rhodia or Clairefontaine. And wet writers, yes. My Platinum's with medium nibs lay pretty generous lines of ink.

You could try the Pilot Prera or even the Metropolitan if you're just looking for a daily writer that doesn't need to be too fancy.
I own 4-5 LAMY steel nib pens (Al-Star, Safari, Vista, etc.) in F, EF, and M and I've never had any issues with pens running dry. It may be possible that you're simply using a ink with a more resistant flow?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sun, 19 March 2017, 15:33:09
My Safari was filled with blue Quink  :( I ordered a Pilot Kakuno after reading this thread.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Zombii on Sun, 19 March 2017, 16:04:37
My Safari was filled with blue Quink  :( I ordered a Pilot Kakuno after reading this thread.

Strange, could have been a lemon? The Kakuno seems like a decent enough choice! Pilot is my favorite brand. Hopefully it will work out for you.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ghostdeini on Sun, 19 March 2017, 16:11:10
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:09:32
Strange, could have been a lemon?
Lemons, those bastards. Getting to my desk in the night and drying the ink in my pen with a hair dryer!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:35:01
By the way, it looks like I'm not the only person having problems with Plaisirs.

https://www.jetpens.com/Platinum-Plaisir-Fountain-Pen-Black-05-Medium-Nib/pd/5978
http://www.thepalimpsest.co.uk/2012/04/platinum-plaisir-fountain-pen-review.html
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:35:27
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

It is not uncommon but usually only when you travel with it a lot. It's possible it's getting bumped around more than you think. I usually keep a black microfiber cloth to wipe the section [what you called the 'finger gripping area'] down.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:39:04
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

It is not uncommon but usually only when you travel with it a lot. It's possible it's getting bumped around more than you think. I usually keep a black microfiber cloth to wipe the section [what you called the 'finger gripping area'] down.

Hahahaha.. ghostdeini, u are such a hipster, fountain pen in a messenger bag.. hahahahaha.


It also depends on the ink you put in your pens..

dye based ones write more smoothly, better against clogs, flows smoother,    but it's also more runny..  and can shake out..


Fountain pens will always tear up a little here and there if it's on the go..


And messenger bags are not very stable vs a back pack,  they are however much more stylish and gets you more ladies i suppose.. hahahahaha

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ghostdeini on Mon, 20 March 2017, 16:49:37
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

It is not uncommon but usually only when you travel with it a lot. It's possible it's getting bumped around more than you think. I usually keep a black microfiber cloth to wipe the section [what you called the 'finger gripping area'] down.

Hahahaha.. ghostdeini, u are such a hipster, fountain pen in a messenger bag.. hahahahaha.


(http://i.imgur.com/zFSYWFU.jpg)

Here's my oh-so-chic briefcase/messenger bag, it's great for carrying stationary and I got it for a steal in a Tokyo recycle shop. I work in a school, so I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a backpack! Every little bit helps when you need to look older than the students  :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 21 March 2017, 12:59:05
sent in my boring Omas D-Day for some work to Pendleton Brown..........very nice :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 21 March 2017, 13:02:59
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

your cartridge or filler is not completely seated sounds like?

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Tue, 21 March 2017, 17:08:05
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

your cartridge or filler is not completely seated sounds like?

That would make it leak inside the body not into the cap.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Tue, 21 March 2017, 17:43:08
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

your cartridge or filler is not completely seated sounds like?

That would make it leak inside the body not into the cap.


.....and it would seep through the threads to the outside as well. :-\
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: digi on Tue, 21 March 2017, 17:51:51
Just got an Aurora Diamante, let me know what you think.

(http://i.imgur.com/FkAUYsa.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Wed, 22 March 2017, 09:37:51
Just got an Aurora Diamante, let me know what you think.


I think your funny. It's obviously not a Diamante because there are no blood stains from the diamonds cutting your fingers as you write. This is about how I expect it would write though as being diamond encrusted I cant imagine it's comfortable to hold.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 22 March 2017, 11:08:31
Just ordered my self an ol' pilot metropolitan, a bottle of noodlers nightshade and a rhodia dotted notebook.


I missed my old fountain pen.  :)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:04:32
ok so i have three more fountain pens now

and an ink roller

kill me pls
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SpecTP on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:29:53
Does anybody know of a fountain pen that just writes? Without scratching, skipping, late starting or being too dry?

Depends on your budget. Try a Faber Castell Loom; you can find one for $35 and the EF/F nibs are quite smooth. I've also had good experiences with Cross Townsend, Pilot Vanishing Point, Lamy 2000, Bexley Prometheus, Pelikan's 400nn, Montblanc 146/149 as well. All with F nibs.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:34:26
Maybe I'll give Pilot Capless a second chance. The store should have a good returns policy though.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SpecTP on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:36:17
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

The pressure you cause when you pull the cap off may be pulling excess ink from the feed. It could also be from ink coming out of the feed as well due to pressure changes (airplane). You may need to pull the nib/feed and thoroughly soak/clean it out and re-seat it. Also, try a different ink.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ghostdeini on Wed, 22 March 2017, 16:21:45
Having some issues with my pilot metropolitan now... When I uncap it and begin to write, there is usually some ink on the finger-gripping area, which leads to stained fingers. I've wiped it down a couple times with a tissue, and I've also tried grasping the nib assembly and tightening it clockwise. Is this just to be expected? I don't do anything crazy with the pen to jostle it around, it mainly stays upright in my messenger bag during the day.

The pressure you cause when you pull the cap off may be pulling excess ink from the feed. It could also be from ink coming out of the feed as well due to pressure changes (airplane). You may need to pull the nib/feed and thoroughly soak/clean it out and re-seat it. Also, try a different ink.

Thank you for the multiple tips! At the moment I only have a single bottle of iroshizuku tsuki-yo (blue black) but I've read that some consider it to be a bit "thin" in consistency. I'm going to give the pen a thorough washing tonight and make sure everything is seated properly.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:55:31
Just ordered my self an ol' pilot metropolitan, a bottle of noodlers nightshade and a rhodia dotted notebook.


I missed my old fountain pen.  :)

Welcome back to another addiction.  :)

<M>? I ask because I think <M> is the better nib IMO.

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Wed, 22 March 2017, 19:37:20
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/5e4e44e541238d89b2188dbe0bf894f1.jpg)

Ink stash
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:12:23
oh look a pelikan
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 March 2017, 00:21:49
I have the most trouble finding a use for a fountain pen these days.

I do my calligraphy in the morning, but, for people who don't do that,   I never physically write anything for the rest of the day.


Even the forms i get to fill these days come in pdf.  and the checkbook, that's it..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: terrpn on Thu, 23 March 2017, 13:53:27
I have the most trouble finding a use for a fountain pen these days.

I do my calligraphy in the morning, but, for people who don't do that,   I never physically write anything for the rest of the day.


Even the forms i get to fill these days come in pdf.  and the checkbook, that's it..

Keep a journal, a diary, write letters to family and friends, write a book............, crossword puzzles- we are spoiled by electronics and it is hard to break. Of course I like most people have to carry a ball point, I am a pen nerd and have to carry a Parker 51 BP........., Parker 51's, VP' Fountain Pens, etc. are great for having to use out of the house.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 23 March 2017, 14:14:07
I write on paper, mark up my notes, colour code, highlight written text and draw diagrams and pictures. This is much more convenient than using a PC or a smartphone.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 March 2017, 14:45:31
I have the most trouble finding a use for a fountain pen these days.

I do my calligraphy in the morning, but, for people who don't do that,   I never physically write anything for the rest of the day.


Even the forms i get to fill these days come in pdf.  and the checkbook, that's it..

Keep a journal, a diary, write letters to family and friends, write a book............, crossword puzzles- we are spoiled by electronics and it is hard to break. Of course I like most people have to carry a ball point, I am a pen nerd and have to carry a Parker 51 BP........., Parker 51's, VP' Fountain Pens, etc. are great for having to use out of the house.


I do keep a journal. but I type that on my offline notebook which I desoldered the bluetooth, removed the wifi, and desoldered the network controller... hahaha

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 24 March 2017, 11:19:37
Can anyone recommend any material for someone who literally was never taught anything other than print?


I would really like to learn and be able to write in cursive style, palmer method or something of the sort. I feel a bit embarrassed about my handwriting that looks to be done by a 6 year old.  :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: SpecTP on Fri, 24 March 2017, 12:36:14
Can anyone recommend any material for someone who literally was never taught anything other than print?


I would really like to learn and be able to write in cursive style, palmer method or something of the sort. I feel a bit embarrassed about my handwriting that looks to be done by a 6 year old.  :))

Write Now, The Getty-Dubay Program for Writing Success by Barbara Getty and Inga Dubay, 3rd edition

grab a copy from Amazon books.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 24 March 2017, 16:13:11
Can anyone recommend any material for someone who literally was never taught anything other than print?


I would really like to learn and be able to write in cursive style, palmer method or something of the sort. I feel a bit embarrassed about my handwriting that looks to be done by a 6 year old.  :))
Same reason I thought about getting a nice pen.  I can write cursive but it's pretty bad and my print is also really bad.  With a good pen though I seem to write better.

Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:24:13
Can anyone recommend any material for someone who literally was never taught anything other than print?
So... You write in BLOCK CAPITALS?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 24 March 2017, 20:13:22
Can anyone recommend any material for someone who literally was never taught anything other than print?
So... You write in BLOCK CAPITALS?
No, I write in lower case and upper case, it looks similar to type face, that you have in the forum.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Sat, 25 March 2017, 06:01:34
Can anyone recommend any material for someone who literally was never taught anything other than print?
So... You write in BLOCK CAPITALS?
No, I write in lower case and upper case, it looks similar to type face, that you have in the forum.
Neat!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 28 March 2017, 11:47:10
Anyone want a free fountain pen? They're not anything fancy and from a bit of weird brand, but at least the brown one feels decently smooth. and I got them for $3.  :)

I've got this one https://www.amazon.com/Fountain-Chocolate-Espresso-Refill-Converter/dp/B01LVXOBDT/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-9&keywords=zenzoi

And this one https://www.amazon.com/Unique-Fountain-Fine-Refill-Converter/dp/B01M7USFTK/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-22&keywords=zenzoi
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Tue, 28 March 2017, 11:55:43
Those are weird!

Maybe...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 28 March 2017, 11:59:22
Anyone want a free fountain pen? They're not anything fancy and from a bit of weird brand, but at least the brown one feels decently smooth. and I got them for $3.  :)

I've got this one https://www.amazon.com/Fountain-Chocolate-Espresso-Refill-Converter/dp/B01LVXOBDT/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-9&keywords=zenzoi

And this one https://www.amazon.com/Unique-Fountain-Fine-Refill-Converter/dp/B01M7USFTK/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-22&keywords=zenzoi

pretty flamboyant choices there.. hahaha
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 28 March 2017, 12:00:41
Anyone want a free fountain pen? They're not anything fancy and from a bit of weird brand, but at least the brown one feels decently smooth. and I got them for $3.  :)

I've got this one https://www.amazon.com/Fountain-Chocolate-Espresso-Refill-Converter/dp/B01LVXOBDT/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-9&keywords=zenzoi

And this one https://www.amazon.com/Unique-Fountain-Fine-Refill-Converter/dp/B01M7USFTK/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-22&keywords=zenzoi

pretty flamboyant choices there.. hahaha
I got some discount codes for them, I didn't chose the colours.  :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 28 March 2017, 12:03:44
Anyone want a free fountain pen? They're not anything fancy and from a bit of weird brand, but at least the brown one feels decently smooth. and I got them for $3.  :)

I've got this one https://www.amazon.com/Fountain-Chocolate-Espresso-Refill-Converter/dp/B01LVXOBDT/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-9&keywords=zenzoi

And this one https://www.amazon.com/Unique-Fountain-Fine-Refill-Converter/dp/B01M7USFTK/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1490719517&sr=8-22&keywords=zenzoi

pretty flamboyant choices there.. hahaha
I got some discount codes for them, I didn't chose the colours.  :))

Then we get to airtree's house,  and he's got a cowboy hat on and a cow print vest.. hahahahahaa
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: ArchDill on Mon, 17 April 2017, 22:26:40
This is my grandpa's collection.



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[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: PollandAkuma on Tue, 18 April 2017, 02:51:31
Wow, great collection! Have you tried writing with them?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 20 April 2017, 06:28:16
Looking to buy another fountain here soon. Something a little bit fancier than the Lamy Al Star I have now.

Looking at either the Monteverde Mount Vesuvio or the Levenger Aero-D on Massdrop right now. Unless of course one of you beautiful gents/ladies is selling a nice fountain pen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:32:49
Looking to buy another fountain here soon. Something a little bit fancier than the Lamy Al Star I have now.

Looking at either the Monteverde Mount Vesuvio or the Levenger Aero-D on Massdrop right now. Unless of course one of you beautiful gents/ladies is selling a nice fountain pen.



Here's how I've put a stop to my own pen buying..


If my penmanship has not improved since my previous purchase.. I will not buy a new pen..


I have a 3rd party verify this obviously,  so that I'm not tricking myself into thinking my calligraphy's gotten better.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Thu, 20 April 2017, 16:35:35
I need to sell about half a dozen pens...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Wed, 14 June 2017, 13:59:24
I need to sell about half a dozen pens...

Prices?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Wed, 14 June 2017, 23:45:42
I have two Pilot Metropolitans and a Lamy Al-Star in anniversary copper (orange), with a few nibs for each. They're nice and certainly very attractive.

But I have to say -- I've stopped using fountain pens completely since having started using Pilot Juice and Uni-Ball Signo UM-151 gel pens in 0.28mm and 0.38mm.

They write absolutely beautifully, come in some truly beautiful colors (especially Green-Black, Lavender-Black, and Brown-Black), and are orders of magnitude more practical.

The Juice is really nice for having the being retractable (click) and having a spring-operated clip for attaching to pockets, clipboards, lanyards, etc.

They require no maintenance and write perfectly all the time. I don't have to fuss around with them, worry about ink bleed, or do anything but just write. I can't recommend them enough.

I'm also down to 0.2mm pencils, though it's pretty delicate. 0.3mm seems to be the sweet spot. :cool:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 27 June 2017, 13:02:11
I keep trying to justify buying a pelikan m800,but I just don't write enough.

Look how good this is - (https://thepelikansperch.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/pelikan-m800-renaissance-brown.jpg)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Tue, 27 June 2017, 19:56:14
I keep trying to justify buying a pelikan m800,but I just don't write enough.

Look how good this is -
Show Image
(https://thepelikansperch.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/pelikan-m800-renaissance-brown.jpg)

You don't even need to justify buying this :p
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Nai_Calus on Mon, 31 July 2017, 06:34:50
I don't even like the size of the Sailor 1911S or Pro Gear Slim and I've got LEs of both on order FML.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Meitachi on Tue, 01 August 2017, 14:06:04
I don't even like the size of the Sailor 1911S or Pro Gear Slim and I've got LEs of both on order FML.

Nice! Where did you order them from? Engeika? Rakuten?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Binge on Sat, 12 August 2017, 20:57:17
I keep trying to justify buying a pelikan m800,but I just don't write enough.

Look how good this is -
Show Image
(https://thepelikansperch.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/pelikan-m800-renaissance-brown.jpg)


That is muy caliente
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Mon, 14 August 2017, 10:01:20
At one point I had a
custom Nakaya,
Pilot M90,
Sailor 1911,
Parker Vacumatic,
Waterman Serenite,
and some others I can't remember...

And they're all gone. Sold them all to fund some other hobbies, and many regrets were had. But I just ordered a cheapo Metropolitan to ease my way back in, and I imagine another Sailor is in the near future.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 29 January 2018, 22:14:51
Geez, this thread got forgotten for a long time!

Here's an interesting interview with the Lamy CEO that just got posted:

Long, but a lot of interesting details.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 29 January 2018, 22:26:52
Geez, this thread got forgotten for a long time!

Here's an interesting interview with the Lamy CEO that just got posted:

Long, but a lot of interesting details.

This was cringe-ful to watch..

It's just goulet pen on his knees brown nosing..

He puts his head so far up that phat german's ass you can't find the neck..  hahahaha

ooo, i'm so excited for lamy

yes, lamy is great

we have stores, 10,000 stores,

wow, so cool..

yes lamy..

go lamy.


Hahahahha..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:02:12
In the video, They talk about Passion for Lamy.. To build the brand around Passion.. and to Instill in its patrons pride..

That is the basis of marketing jewelery.  Or a roundabout way of saying,

=== How do we make people buy something they Can't use and Don't need.. ===

Similar to how watches have survived,  the goal is to attract middle class idiots slaved to a job which rob them of the time to create and foster their personal identity.

And so, they take their meager pays to BUY an identity in a product such as monteblanc or lamy or kmac..


It's the same schtick, only with extra frivolous german engineering...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:21:35
I think you might be on the wrong forum, tp4  :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 January 2018, 11:13:22
I think you might be on the wrong forum, tp4  :))

I started in the same place, defined by consumerism.

I've grown,  and ya'll are coming with me, kicking and screaming, whether you like it or not.. !!


/immunize

-- This is totally not what a serial killer would say --

Tp4 =/= serial killer
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Sun, 08 April 2018, 18:47:49
In the video, They talk about Passion for Lamy.. To build the brand around Passion.. and to Instill in its patrons pride..

That is the basis of marketing jewelery.  Or a roundabout way of saying,

=== How do we make people buy something they Can't use and Don't need.. ===

Similar to how watches have survived,  the goal is to attract middle class idiots slaved to a job which rob them of the time to create and foster their personal identity.

And so, they take their meager pays to BUY an identity in a product such as monteblanc or lamy or kmac..


It's the same schtick, only with extra frivolous german engineering...


It's like anything, these days. Look how many advertisements have nothing to do with the product itself.

Take this Apple HomePod ad for example:


The first half of the ad is just depressing, and when it finally gets to the product, it could be replaced with anything that plays music and not change... she could put on a gramophone for crying out loud.



As for pens, there is a certain kind of appeal people are drawn in to. For me, fountain pens are aesthetically pretty but awful to write with, especially for daily use. I have gel pens that write far better and without any fuss or consideration for paper type, etc.

I use pencil mostly anyways (engineering). I've recently found 0.4mm mechanical pencils, which are pretty well perfect. I also use 0.2, 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, and 0.9, for various purposes.

I might do an overview of all the writing instruments I have. I've developed quite the collection, though as with keyboards, there are some you just gravitate to.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 April 2018, 18:53:21

I use pencil mostly anyways (engineering). I've recently found 0.4mm mechanical pencils, which are pretty well perfect. I also use 0.2, 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, and 0.9, for various purposes.



I haven't seen any serious engineering done outside of CAD for 30 yrs..  except red pencil markups by the seniors, hahahaha


I guess the architect , model builder guy still draws and uses pencil..  But he's known as engineering-lite around the office..

hahahaha
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Mon, 09 April 2018, 04:12:52
Gel pens can't work at 45 degrees to paper or without pressure.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Altis on Thu, 12 April 2018, 14:37:39

I use pencil mostly anyways (engineering). I've recently found 0.4mm mechanical pencils, which are pretty well perfect. I also use 0.2, 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, and 0.9, for various purposes.



I haven't seen any serious engineering done outside of CAD for 30 yrs..  except red pencil markups by the seniors, hahahaha


I guess the architect , model builder guy still draws and uses pencil..  But he's known as engineering-lite around the office..

hahahaha


I'm talking about pencil VS pen.

For doing math and solving problems by hand, pencil is the way to go.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 12 April 2018, 18:40:26
Not to mention, there are the whole artistic and tactile aspects to using different writing instruments.  It's not all about efficiency all the time.  I sketch with pencil and fountain pens beyond writing.

Agreed about solving problems by hand in pencil.  Though I've wasted a fair amount of printer paper on many-line integrals using a skinny felt-tip marker pen too.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Thu, 11 October 2018, 13:07:28
Resurrecting this thread as handwriting only requires one hand so it's something I can actually do - please see pictures.

[attach=1][attach=2]
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Thu, 11 October 2018, 14:14:36
After four months of not using them, I'm using fountain pens now more frequently at work. Had to give them proper cleanings!

I was in a meeting the other day and someone was using a Meisterstuck. I asked him about it and he said it was an heirloom. I tried to engage in a discussion of fountain pens but after he changed topics too soon I realized his knowledge didn't extend beyond what was in his hand. Still, it was a beaut, and now I bring in my pens during meetings!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Thu, 11 October 2018, 21:59:01
Resurrecting this thread as handwriting only requires one hand so it's something I can actually do - please see pictures.


Nice pens. Always liked them Parker Duofold/Vacumatics. Fude de Mannen is an unusual choice unless you like it for drawing or write asian characters.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 11 October 2018, 22:46:59
(https://i.imgur.com/whpNeLp.jpg)
PPS I also need to work on spacing between words and sticking closer to the line.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Thu, 11 October 2018, 23:31:35
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/whpNeLp.jpg)

PPS I also need to work on spacing between words and sticking closer to the line.

Some of the words appear a bit shaky as well.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 11 October 2018, 23:34:29
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/whpNeLp.jpg)

PPS I also need to work on spacing between words and sticking closer to the line.

Some of the words appear a bit shaky as well.

Usually has to do with whether I try using my ornate or actual handwriting and sometimes swapping mid-word.
When going very slowly to focus on the ornate-ness, shaky hand syndrome can have devastating effects on curves especially. Once I get into it and use quicker strokes, those shakes tend to disappear.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 12 October 2018, 04:54:45
Resurrecting this thread as handwriting only requires one hand so it's something I can actually do - please see pictures.


Nice pens. Always liked them Parker Duofold/Vacumatics. Fude de Mannen is an unusual choice unless you like it for drawing or write asian characters.

Thanks, I thought when buying an Asian pen I should get a matching nib and it's possible to do some nice standard letters with it but sadlly I'm not capable.  Bought it long ago (2011!) intending to improve but never have...  Short of learning to write left handed (which I can't do at the moment) so all muscle memory is bypassed I'm not sure how to proceed - squared paper and back to primary school style writing a line of 'Aa Bb Cc...'?  I always want to skip to the advanced aspects in whatever I do but it just doesn't work here, my pen control is awful as evident in my inconsist samples.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Fri, 12 October 2018, 05:37:55

Thanks, I thought when buying an Asian pen I should get a matching nib and it's possible to do some nice standard letters with it but sadlly I'm not capable.  Bought it long ago (2011!) intending to improve but never have...  Short of learning to write left handed (which I can't do at the moment) so all muscle memory is bypassed I'm not sure how to proceed - squared paper and back to primary school style writing a line of 'Aa Bb Cc...'?  I always want to skip to the advanced aspects in whatever I do but it just doesn't work here, my pen control is awful as evident in my inconsist samples.

It's not that bad, your current handwriting is perfectly legible.

I've found that the key to improving your handwriting is to slow down. Make deliberate, conscious strokes, focus on getting the strokes and letter joins (if doing cursive) properly done. Fast, repetitive practice without conscious attention paid usually does nothing except reinforce old bad habits. It'll take a while but your muscle memory eventually gets retrained, after which you can pick up speed again. It's little like learning how to type - go for accuracy/quality over speed first. Speed comes later.

If you find it difficult to separate your daily scribbling from focused practiced sessions, picking up a calligraphy-type hand might help to put you in a different mental space. Looking at the obliques you have on your Parkers, I'd recommend you look at something like Chancery Italic.

The habits and control gained from the slower paced calligraphy practice will eventually seep over into your regular hand.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 12 October 2018, 06:12:45
It's not that bad, your current handwriting is perfectly legible.
And that's half the problem - I don't need to improve.  But looking at any join the height and spacing are completely random even in the same same session with the same pen and letters are just as bad - for example my lower case e sometimes has a hole in and sometimes doesn't and the tail of my g is sometimes flat and sometimes curves upwards.  'Not bad' is not the same as 'good' while I aspire to 'exceptional' - Frosty's getting there.

I never have to write so the confusion between learning and scribbling is not going to be a problem, I will look for a new 'font' that appeals and start slow.  Thanks for the tips :thumb:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 October 2018, 22:00:00
It's not that bad, your current handwriting is perfectly legible.
And that's half the problem - I don't need to improve.  But looking at any join the height and spacing are completely random even in the same same session with the same pen and letters are just as bad - for example my lower case e sometimes has a hole in and sometimes doesn't and the tail of my g is sometimes flat and sometimes curves upwards.  'Not bad' is not the same as 'good' while I aspire to 'exceptional' - Frosty's getting there.

I never have to write so the confusion between learning and scribbling is not going to be a problem, I will look for a new 'font' that appeals and start slow.  Thanks for the tips :thumb:

Looks good,  I had alot of trouble with straight flex nib until I gave up and oriented the paper in angle of the italic.

This helped the flex come out more evenly and with tighter control.

Don't own any obliques atm, broke my previous one. hesitant to re-open pen shopping..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 13 October 2018, 20:34:09
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PPS I also need to work on spacing between words and sticking closer to the line.

I was hoping that if I got a fountain pen (currently have around a dozen of various types), it might improve my writing.

Something like this was what I had in mind.

It did not :))
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 October 2018, 21:15:06
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(https://i.imgur.com/whpNeLp.jpg)

PPS I also need to work on spacing between words and sticking closer to the line.

I was hoping that if I got a fountain pen (currently have around a dozen of various types), it might improve my writing.

Something like this was what I had in mind.

It did not :))

Start writing real letters to people..
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 13 October 2018, 21:17:04
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/whpNeLp.jpg)

PPS I also need to work on spacing between words and sticking closer to the line.

I was hoping that if I got a fountain pen (currently have around a dozen of various types), it might improve my writing.

Something like this was what I had in mind.

It did not :))

Start writing real letters to people..

Do the people have to be real?
Do they have to be 3D?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 October 2018, 21:17:56

Do the people have to be real?
Do they have to be 3D?

Player's choice. !!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 14 October 2018, 12:21:10
Are there any fountain pens that don't get thinner towards the nib?  Lightly gripping (supposedly a good thing) a shiny section just means my fingers slip towards the nib which is getting old fast.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 14 October 2018, 22:19:18
Are there any fountain pens that don't get thinner towards the nib?  Lightly gripping (supposedly a good thing) a shiny section just means my fingers slip towards the nib which is getting old fast.

A very slight taper on the grip section is common, and even desired; perhaps look at those with a flared lip if your fingers keep slipping towards the nib. But there's probably enough pens out there with a mostly straight section that you won't be starved for choice. As for specific recommendations, a stated budget would help narrow it down.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 14 October 2018, 22:32:36
Are there any fountain pens that don't get thinner towards the nib?  Lightly gripping (supposedly a good thing) a shiny section just means my fingers slip towards the nib which is getting old fast.

A very slight taper on the grip section is common, and even desired; perhaps look at those with a flared lip if your fingers keep slipping towards the nib. But there's probably enough pens out there with a mostly straight section that you won't be starved for choice. As for specific recommendations, a stated budget would help narrow it down.


There's no right or wrong way (short of too much pressure/pain)..

Anything that gets the job done.. you can grab the pen however you like, regardless of what the shape/design suggests you hold it..

Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Sun, 14 October 2018, 22:54:45
Are there any fountain pens that don't get thinner towards the nib?  Lightly gripping (supposedly a good thing) a shiny section just means my fingers slip towards the nib which is getting old fast.

A very slight taper on the grip section is common, and even desired; perhaps look at those with a flared lip if your fingers keep slipping towards the nib. But there's probably enough pens out there with a mostly straight section that you won't be starved for choice. As for specific recommendations, a stated budget would help narrow it down.


There's no right or wrong way (short of too much pressure/pain)..

Anything that gets the job done.. you can grab the pen however you like, regardless of what the shape/design suggests you hold it..



In theory sure. Not always true in practice, and that is why one person would prefer a Pilot to a Sailor, and another might like the BIC over fountain pens. Humans are idiosyncratic creatures.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 15 October 2018, 06:07:17
There's no right or wrong way (short of too much pressure/pain)..

Anything that gets the job done.. you can grab the pen however you like, regardless of what the shape/design suggests you hold it..
Absolutely, no designer is going to dictate how I use something I've bought!

Found a book from last I was in this mood (who knows how many years ago :-[) and according to that I grip too tight.  I still questioned it until I actually started writing for more than a couple of minutes and got cramp, so I've had to admit I fail at stage 1.

A very slight taper on the grip section is common, and even desired; perhaps look at those with a flared lip if your fingers keep slipping towards the nib. But there's probably enough pens out there with a mostly straight section that you won't be starved for choice. As for specific recommendations, a stated budget would help narrow it down.

Why would this be desirable?  If you grip tightly with a sweaty hand you can be on the nib in no time and if you grip lightly it just slides slowly which affects the size of your writing.  Straight would be better but it's still going to slide unless you grip hard... I must be missing something when it's so common but I'm trying to start afresh questioning everything and my inky finger says it's not good.

Recommendations? Must be a fat pen, and if it were free that would be lovely :))  The Visconti Homo Sapiens with it's alleged rubbery texture and hydroscopic properties sounds perfect especially as it has a little flare near the nib.  Far from free though!
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: Larken on Mon, 15 October 2018, 06:44:42

Why would this be desirable?  If you grip tightly with a sweaty hand you can be on the nib in no time and if you grip lightly it just slides slowly which affects the size of your writing.  Straight would be better but it's still going to slide unless you grip hard... I must be missing something when it's so common but I'm trying to start afresh questioning everything and my inky finger says it's not good.


It is desirable (evidently arguable) because a taper accommodates for people with different preferences with respect to section girth; not everyone grips their pens at the same spot. For example, my fingers rest on where there usually are threads, and I prefer a longer section when it's available. I do write with pens varying designs though.

I must admit, the pens that you already have, i.e. the Parker Duofold and the Sailor 1911 are actually pretty good pens as they come. Getting a new pen is always nice, and in certain cases, a differently designed pen does make it easier to hold; i.e. you're gonna find a tapered, hooded nib pen like the L2K terrible. But the root of the issue is probably a problem with your fundamental technique.

Maybe share a few pictures of how you hold your pen?

Also, going through the lessons here might help: https://palmermethod.com/

Recommendations? Must be a fat pen, and if it were free that would be lovely :))  The Visconti Homo Sapiens with it's alleged rubbery texture and hydroscopic properties sounds perfect especially as it has a little flare near the nib.  Far from free though!

The Visconti Homo Sapiens is kinda overrated. YMMV. Thought about getting one several times, but always changed my mind after trying the pen in person. Several times across the last few years.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: invariance on Tue, 23 October 2018, 04:22:12
This is what I occasionally use, mainly for signing documents.
Bought it when I was at University.

(F'n iphone turned the image)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 05 November 2018, 10:01:08
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/whpNeLp.jpg)

PPS I also need to work on spacing between words and sticking closer to the line.

I was hoping that if I got a fountain pen (currently have around a dozen of various types), it might improve my writing.

Something like this was what I had in mind.

It did not :))

It certainly improved my handwriting, but it's not hard to polish a turd...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: fliz on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:21:40
I used to have a custom Richard Binder medium flex italic nib that magically transformed my chicken scratch into something that people would comment on. Sadly, that pen was stolen.
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: iri on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:43:02
And Binder is retired...
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: romevi on Wed, 15 April 2020, 14:39:25
I received two wonderful, vintage Pelikans from a wonderful member on gh.  :eek:
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 15 April 2020, 18:08:50
I received two wonderful, vintage Pelikans from a wonderful member on gh.  :eek:

Whoever sent you those is an absolute saint! Which model?
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 15 April 2020, 19:23:34
I received two wonderful, vintage Pelikans from a wonderful member on gh.  :eek:

How come Tp4 no getz fr33 p3nz.  ??

(https://i.imgur.com/zh8eloM.gif)
Title: Re: Geekhack Handwriting Thread and Fountain Pen Thread
Post by: fliz on Thu, 16 April 2020, 14:59:05
And Binder is retired...

I know... it's a real tragedy. I got another one from the person he's training, but the ink doesn't flow properly. I guess full-flex italic is trickier to make?