[IC] SA Jadeite (GB: Sept 14 - Oct 16)

[HoodrowThrillson]

SA Jadeite
Signature Plastics SA
Collaboration between HoodrowThrillson and OneCreativeMind
Interest Check here

GB Date: September 14 - October 16


RAMA WORKS U80A + SA Jadeite Alphas and Modifers

What is Jadeite?
Jadeite is one of the two mineral species that fall under the classification of jade (the other one is called nephrite).

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And the theme?
This past winter, I had the opportunity to travel to Taiwan with my S/O as well as my Taiwanese friend and his S/O. During that time, I got to experience all there was to do in Taiwan. One of the most memorable places we got to go to was the National Palace Museum. I was fortunate enough to see the Jade Cabbage, which this set is based off of. Yes I did IC KAM Jade but this set will probably replace that.

The image I took of the Jade Cabbage is below.



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Colors

Signature Plastics PBT Colors

From left to right: VS, VAZ, VCB, WAN
*Note: SP is going to match these colors with ABS, these keycaps ARE NOT PBT

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Vendors? Pricing?

NA: Novelkeys
CA: Apex Keyboards
EU: MyKeyboard
Asia: Monokei
OCE: Daily Clack


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Kits?






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Collabs?

Space Cables



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Renders
As always, done by Abec13

U80A




Think 6.5




Neuron



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[bisoromi]

I love SA

[Abec13]

Esssaaayyyyy

[fropsie]

Gib.

[depletedvespene]

Interesting concept.

Couple quick comments:

- In the numpad kit, the numpad= key is light green (VCB), but this key tends to be on the leftside of a numpad, when present, so perhaps it ought to be white instead.
- In the ISO kit, the R1 dark green \| key seems to be unnecessary, as it is not used (on the left side of the keyboard) in either the English (US) or the English (UK) national layouts. It IS used as the top left corner key in the Portuguese and Italian layouts, but that is a different matter..
- In the spacebars kit, perhaps at least a 2.25 light green space bar could be added, so the gradation from dark green to white can be done flawlessly if going with a split space bar.


HTH!

[nu_types]

I dig it

[Rob27shred]

Never was a fan of gradient sets, but this one resonates with me for some reason. Definitely would be down for a set!

[konstantin]

Sweet colors. I'm glad to see yet another set that uses those nice, cool and calm greens. I think gradients work best with SA, so good call on that too (although KAT would've been good too). Anyway, I have some kitting suggestions for your consideration

• Add F13 to the extension kit.
• Move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit since those keys are only used on layouts with numpads.
• R3 1.75u Function would be cool.
• I think the green R1 \| in the ISO kit may have been added by mistake.
• Remove the Win keys and instead use Code everywhere.
• I don't like the discrepancy between Insert and Del. Since I don't think Delete fits on SA 1u, how about using Ins instead?
• This is down to your preference as the designer, but I think it'd look better if Scroll↲Lock were Scroll, Page↲Up were PgUp etc.
• Not sure how useful the second 1.25u space in the 40s kit is.

[HoodrowThrillson]

Sweet colors. I'm glad to see yet another set that uses those nice, cool and calm greens. I think gradients work best with SA, so good call on that too (although KAT would've been good too). Anyway, I have some kitting suggestions for your consideration

• Add F13 to the extension kit.
• Move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit since those keys are only used on layouts with numpads.
• R3 1.75u Function would be cool.
• I think the green R1 \| in the ISO kit may have been added by mistake.
• Remove the Win keys and instead use Code everywhere.
• I don't like the discrepancy between Insert and Del. Since I don't think Delete fits on SA 1u, how about using Ins instead?
• This is down to your preference as the designer, but I think it'd look better if Scroll↲Lock were Scroll, Page↲Up were Page etc.
• Not sure how useful the second 1.25u space in the 40s kit is.

Some good points, but some things (IE: Code instead of Win) were based off of what molds Maxkey has made.

[ocm]

Sweet colors. I'm glad to see yet another set that uses those nice, cool and calm greens. I think gradients work best with SA, so good call on that too (although KAT would've been good too). Anyway, I have some kitting suggestions for your consideration

• Add F13 to the extension kit.
• Move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit since those keys are only used on layouts with numpads.
• R3 1.75u Function would be cool.
• I think the green R1 \| in the ISO kit may have been added by mistake.
• Remove the Win keys and instead use Code everywhere.
• I don't like the discrepancy between Insert and Del. Since I don't think Delete fits on SA 1u, how about using Ins instead?
• This is down to your preference as the designer, but I think it'd look better if Scroll↲Lock were Scroll, Page↲Up were Page etc.
• Not sure how useful the second 1.25u space in the 40s kit is.

Hey there again, Konstantin! The big blocker for a lot of these things is going to be what molds that Maxkey has available and we are already producing quite a few legends/molds for the 40s kit here. The goal here, and reason for going with Maxkey is to keep this VERY affordable. We will ask how an additional handful of molds will affect price when we get to the point of reaching out for quotes

1. F13 mold doesn't exist in Maxkey's library as far as I know, but we will inquire and see if it does
2. Interesting feedback, if there's desire for that we will consider that change
3. Similar to #1, would be cool but it is just not common enough to justify the mold costs
4. This may genuinely be a mistake on my end, I'll sink with Hoodrow
5. Similar to #2, we will consider that change if there is enough support for it. "Win" is the Maxkey kitting convention currently.
6. "Ins" and "Delete" molds don't exist, but we will inquire
7. Same as #6, just using what is available to keep costs reasonable!
8. This is for Corne, and similar layouts/boards

[Zephyraeon]

I love the colours you’ve picked out, the set looks gorgeous!

Sweet colors. I'm glad to see yet another set that uses those nice, cool and calm greens. I think gradients work best with SA, so good call on that too (although KAT would've been good too). Anyway, I have some kitting suggestions for your consideration

• Add F13 to the extension kit.

Hey there again, Konstantin! The big blocker for a lot of these things is going to be what molds that Maxkey has available and we are already producing quite a few legends/molds for the 40s kit here. The goal here, and reason for going with Maxkey is to keep this VERY affordable. We will ask how an additional handful of molds will affect price when we get to the point of reaching out for quotes

1. F13 mold doesn't exist in Maxkey's library as far as I know, but we will inquire and see if it does

If there’s no F13 option could one of the novelties be green in white to fit in that slot instead?

[ocm]

If there’s no F13 option could one of the novelties be green in white to fit in that slot instead?

Heyyyyyy now there's an idea!

[HoodrowThrillson]

If there’s no F13 option could one of the novelties be green in white to fit in that slot instead?

Heyyyyyy now there's an idea!

I like this idea

[konstantin]

Some good points, but some things (IE: Code instead of Win) were based off of what molds Maxkey has made.

Hey there again, Konstantin! The big blocker for a lot of these things is going to be what molds that Maxkey has available and we are already producing quite a few legends/molds for the 40s kit here. The goal here, and reason for going with Maxkey is to keep this VERY affordable. We will ask how an additional handful of molds will affect price when we get to the point of reaching out for quotes

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Heya! Thanks for the prompt responses, guys. I saw SP color chips and assumed this was SP SA — since it's Maxkey, going with molds that are currently available makes sense, of course. If new molds for a couple of the things I suggested could reasonably be produced, that would be great to see (it might interest Maxkey to subsidize since other sets would benefit from it too), but it's not a must by any means.

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my suggestions. Again — great colors, I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.

+1 for the novelty suggestion in case F13 doesn't pan out

[DrHigsby]

Forgive my ignorance, but with PBT color chips featured, is this set intending to be ABS doubleshot or PBT dye sub? Either way, I’m very interested in the ergo set. Love the gradient. 

[psxndc]

Disappointed this wasn't called cabbage in the end.

[HoodrowThrillson]

Forgive my ignorance, but with PBT color chips featured, is this set intending to be ABS doubleshot or PBT dye sub? Either way, I’m very interested in the ergo set. Love the gradient. 

ABS Doubleshot, I looked at ABS colors but they didn't work as well as the PBT colors. Wei assured that Maxkey can match PBT colors.

Disappointed this wasn't called cabbage in the end.

Cabbage is not as elegant as Jadeite

[yuuS0cut3]

Please consider adding F-row keys that support keyboards which have no blocker between F-rows such as 96%, 75%,...
Here's an example problem of SA Vilebloom

[ToraShiba]

PBT and I'm in <3

[bananasplit_00]

Beautiful, can we get a norde kit?

[konstantin]

PBT and I'm in <3

As far as I know, Maxkey doesn't do reverse dye sub, so there would be no way to create the white on green legends. I don't think I've seen them do any PBT SA at all, so it's a no-go either way.

[HoodrowThrillson]

Please consider adding F-row keys that support keyboards which have no blocker between F-rows such as 96%, 75%,...
Here's an example problem of SA Vilebloom

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I've thought about it and the problem is that there are so many variations of the F row on compat 1800 boards that it makes it hard to cater to all of the different renditions of it.

PBT and I'm in <3

Maxkey doubleshots are ABS only as far as I'm aware.

Beautiful, can we get a norde kit?

I am pretty sure those molds don't exist for Maxkey.

[NoxNoxNox]

I think you can account for most or all of the 1800/75%/F13 layouts with 2 extra keys:  Green F5 and the light teal F6.

Excuse my bad mock-ups, but I think it gets the point across generally that it should accommodate most possible FRows

[konstantin]

I think you can account for most or all of the 1800/75%/F13 layouts with 2 extra keys:  Green F5 and the light teal F6.

Excuse my bad mock-ups, but I think it gets the point across generally that it should accommodate most possible FRows

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+1, sounds (and looks) about right.

[nettoxx7]

Was never interested in SA profile or the color green until this, love the gradient and clean setup !!

[norb]

gradients are sweet, more sets like this should exist 

[amperrsand]

Okay, now this is epic. I held out on Lucky Jade because it just didn't feel right at the moment, but this fills that hole. Hopefully the kit's run doesn't conflict with other sets I want.

Is the font on the keys going to be as thick as they are in the renders? Or is it a different font from most SA sets?

[Electronic_Abyss]

These greens are stellar. I'm super into this

[FaKe_VirTual]

The colourway is really refreshing. I really like the greens and whites in this set.
Great job!

[HoodrowThrillson]

Okay, now this is epic. I held out on Lucky Jade because it just didn't feel right at the moment, but this fills that hole. Hopefully the kit's run doesn't conflict with other sets I want.

Is the font on the keys going to be as thick as they are in the renders? Or is it a different font from most SA sets?

No special font, just normal SA font.

Here is SA Leviathan (also Maxkey)


Thank you to everyone for providing so much feedback, between here and Reddit, we've gathered a lot of feedback. OCM and I will need to discuss what changes we want to make.

[amperrsand]

Okay cool. Yeah, the render just kinda makes the letter look a little chonky, like the Q.

[TeacherGeek]

What about green legends for the white keycaps instead of black? I don't know if it is better but a render would be cool? Or at least the right side modifers.

[nasp]

What about green legends for the white keycaps instead of black? I don't know if it is better but a render would be cool? Or at least the right side modifers.

I'm pretty sure they are dark green, at least they are on the KLE.

[HoodrowThrillson]

What about green legends for the white keycaps instead of black? I don't know if it is better but a render would be cool? Or at least the right side modifers.

I'm pretty sure they are dark green, at least they are on the KLE.

Yup, they're dark green (same as the cap on the left)

[Helpingly]

Cool themes and cool colors. But SA is the bane of my existence. Hopefully this set is so successful you guys decide to run it in different profiles in the future.

[HoodrowThrillson]

Here are a list of items we will be considering and/or fixing:

• Add novelty for F13 (R1 white)
• Do we make the 40s kit fully comprehensive or leave it as is so it supports the majority of boards
• Split ergo support added to the Ergodox kit (will allow use with Kyria, Manuform, Let's Split, etc.)
• More jade-esque novelties?
• Add F5 and F6 of the correct color for 96%, 75%, etc.

[Mukdip]

Interested for my partner. Any chance for MacOS keys?

[HoodrowThrillson]

Interested for my partner. Any chance for MacOS keys?

Sorry, the likelihood of it reaching MOQ is too low to proceed with it.

In other news, kits have been updating.

Ergodox kit will now cover a lot more split boards (Kyria, Manuform, Let's Split, etc)!
Removed unnecessary ISO key
Added additional F5 and F6 for compat large boards (75%, 96%, etc.) to help keep gradient in tack.
Added white R1 novelties for F13

[HoodrowThrillson]

Additionally uploaded all new renders + updated/fixed renders

Just for the Top Clack crowd

[konstantin]

In other news, kits have been updating.

Ergodox kit will now cover a lot more split boards (Kyria, Manuform, Let's Split, etc)!
Removed unnecessary ISO key
Added additional F5 and F6 for compat large boards (75%, 96%, etc.) to help keep gradient in tack.
Added white R1 novelties for F13

Now that the Extension kit is two keys “heavier”, could you move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit? Again, those keys are only ever used with numpads, and they don't see use on any layout smaller than 1800/CP/96-key. Which is why most recent numpadless sets (e.g. 9009, MoDoL, Café, Apollo, Bleached) have been putting them in their numpad kits.

[HoodrowThrillson]

In other news, kits have been updating.

Ergodox kit will now cover a lot more split boards (Kyria, Manuform, Let's Split, etc)!
Removed unnecessary ISO key
Added additional F5 and F6 for compat large boards (75%, 96%, etc.) to help keep gradient in tack.
Added white R1 novelties for F13

Now that the Extension kit is two keys “heavier”, could you move R1 End and PgDn to the numpad kit? Again, those keys are only ever used with numpads, and they don't see use on any layout smaller than 1800/CP/96-key. Which is why most recent numpadless sets (e.g. 9009, MoDoL, Café, Apollo, Bleached) have been putting them in their numpad kits.

Here are our thoughts

Modifiers covers standard TKL
Modifiers + Numpad covers standard fullsize
Extension kit are for those running nonstandard things (Tsangan, 75%, 95%, etc.) (compat designs + 65% requires the short shift anyways).

The difference between those GMK sets and this SA set is that, they include the extension kit (more or less) into the base kit.

[konstantin]

Here are our thoughts

Modifiers covers standard TKL
Modifiers + Numpad covers standard fullsize
Extension kit are for those running nonstandard things (Tsangan, 75%, 95%, etc.) (compat designs + 65% requires the short shift anyways).

The difference between those GMK sets and this SA set is that, they include the extension kit (more or less) into the base kit.

I was looking at it from another perspective, that people who don't use a numpad don't need to pay for numpad keys, like people who use TKL don't need to pay for the extension, but what you're saying does make sense!

[Hellenic94]

This is gorgeous, will pair nicely with Box Jades, hopefully its an open GB. Not sure if this will pair better with a silver or a white case, specifically a kbd76mkii. Can we get renders for that? Thanks and good luck!

[DrHigsby]

This is gorgeous, will pair nicely with Box Jades, hopefully its an open GB. Not sure if this will pair better with a silver or a white case, specifically a kbd76mkii. Can we get renders for that? Thanks and good luck!

I’m not sure if this is still an issue or not, but box stems can crack SAs (has happened to me).

[DasGnome]

SA with gradient slope is my favorite. Cant wait.

But I gotta say the cabbage novelty looks like grandpa's wrinkly ****. The source material is stunning, but I don't think it translates.

[norb]

This is gorgeous, will pair nicely with Box Jades, hopefully its an open GB. Not sure if this will pair better with a silver or a white case, specifically a kbd76mkii. Can we get renders for that? Thanks and good luck!

I’m not sure if this is still an issue or not, but box stems can crack SAs (has happened to me).

i have both old and new ones of boxes and they are doing ok. they may still leave a minimum of white stretchmark on your stems but don't put enough stress to crack them anymore. i've tested with SP and GMK, not sure about other manus.

[HoodrowThrillson]

IC updated - 5/5/20

IC is now live on KBDFans so please head on over there and let them know you're interested. Form is here.

[Le_Thrywyn]

I'm new here, so I was wondering how long you would estimate it to take for this to reach GB/Shipping, and could you possibly get a render of this on a white board?

[b0bab0i]

How many people for IC on KBDFans till it'll go on sale?

[HoodrowThrillson]

I'm new here, so I was wondering how long you would estimate it to take for this to reach GB/Shipping, and could you possibly get a render of this on a white board?

Time it takes from IC to GB: depends on level of interest and how many projects are launching before this.

Render on white board: Not at the moment.

How many people for IC on KBDFans till it'll go on sale?

I don't have the exact number but more the merrier.

[tinyumbrella]

Include international/Nordic with Ð and Þ, and I would be more than just interested.

[Puddsy]

Include international/Nordic with Ð and Þ, and I would be more than just interested.

i have bingo

[HoodrowThrillson]

Include international/Nordic with Ð and Þ, and I would be more than just interested.

International kit unlikely.

[fluxlab]

Beautiful set!

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk

[DrHigsby]

Not sure if it’s intentional, but the KBDFans hyperlink 404s now.

[Hellenic94]

Not sure if it’s intentional, but the KBDFans hyperlink 404s now.

Yeah saw that too.

[adamdehaven]

Did I miss something? The KBDfans link appears to no longer be live?

[HoodrowThrillson]

I was going to come back with a major update before anyone noticed that the KBDFans IC was no longer present so I guess I will provide a minor update.

The quotes we received from Maxkey were unreasonable. Unreasonable being the cost of the alphas kit, which would have (in return) caused prices to be higher for any layout for you. We know it was unreasonable because we also asked SP to run a quote on the exact same kits and the pricing for the alphas kit was significantly less.

We are moving to switch to SP SA and are reorganizing our kits to better suit SP SA. Some kits may be removed, sadly, since the cost may be too high for certain individuals in those categories (IE: Ergodox kit).

Again, we are still weighting our options on kits, but we will be back with more news are we finish things up (new kitting, vendors, etc.).

Thank you.

[DrHigsby]

I was going to come back with a major update before anyone noticed that the KBDFans IC was no longer present so I guess I will provide a minor update.

The quotes we received from Maxkey were unreasonable. Unreasonable being the cost of the alphas kit, which would have (in return) caused prices to be higher for any layout for you. We know it was unreasonable because we also asked SP to run a quote on the exact same kits and the pricing for the alphas kit was significantly less.

We are moving to switch to SP SA and are reorganizing our kits to better suit SP SA. Some kits may be removed, sadly, since the cost may be too high for certain individuals in those categories (IE: Ergodox kit).

Again, we are still weighting our options on kits, but we will be back with more news are we finish things up (new kitting, vendors, etc.).

Thank you.

Sorry to burst your bubble mate

This is still an exciting update though! I look forward to the re-org and future updates you have to share! 

[riterdando]

I hope for the ErgoDox kit, that was my interest in this GB.
Hopefully things can be sorted out.

[amperrsand]

But I gotta say the cabbage novelty looks like grandpa's wrinkly ****. The source material is stunning, but I don't think it translates.

lol this

[HoodrowThrillson]

But I gotta say the cabbage novelty looks like grandpa's wrinkly ****. The source material is stunning, but I don't think it translates.

lol this

It's hard to turn a multicolor cabbage into a one color cabbage, we'll see what we can do about that

[pedroz]

What’s the ETA on this group buy? I am super excited for this gradient

[Kings]

What’s the ETA on this group buy? I am super excited for this gradient

Same. Can't wait for this.

[HoodrowThrillson]

All vendors announced
GB month chosen, dates TBD
Pricing TBD
New kitting up
Waiting on revised keyboard renders (some keys are different between SP and Maxkey)

If anyone missed the reasoning why we moved away from Maxkey, it is because the quote we received back were awful. The cost of alphas + anything you would need to fill out a board would have been equal to SP SA pricing.

[dr_unconscionable]

Exciting! Looking forward to this set! Is it going to be PBT? Is see that the color swatches you have are SA PBT. I missed that if so (and colour me interested, as I haven't had a chance to try SA-P yet)!

I had a note about the Ortho/40s kit too -- the default Planck layout has an R4 enter (since the key at the end of R3 is usually the ' " key), but this kit only has the R3 enter. I might grab the kit depending on pricing, and it seems an odd omisson, especially with all of the different configurations of Tab and Esc available.

I was also surprised to see both "Return" and "Enter" -- the ANSI key is Return but the ISO one is Enter, and the Ortho/40s kit has both an Enter and a Return of different sizes. Is this deliberate?

[HoodrowThrillson]

Exciting! Looking forward to this set! Is it going to be PBT? Is see that the color swatches you have are SA PBT. I missed that if so (and colour me interested, as I haven't had a chance to try SA-P yet)!

I had a note about the Ortho/40s kit too -- the default Planck layout has an R4 enter (since the key at the end of R3 is usually the ' " key), but this kit only has the R3 enter. I might grab the kit depending on pricing, and it seems an odd omisson, especially with all of the different configurations of Tab and Esc available.

I was also surprised to see both "Return" and "Enter" -- the ANSI key is Return but the ISO one is Enter, and the Ortho/40s kit has both an Enter and a Return of different sizes. Is this deliberate?

It's going to be ABS, but chose to use PBT colors since they worked the best in terms of standard colors we could use (no color matching required, SP already said they could color match PBT colors).

I will look into the R4 enter, the Return and Enter in different sizes is deliberate (40% uses a weird mix of sizes for that key) and the use of Enter vs Return is just for looks (they perform the same function; however, they're 1 character different).

Edit: Return vs Enter = based off of preexisting molds we have seen out in the wild.

[dr_unconscionable]

Thanks for clarifying!

Weird, I guess I never noticed the Return vs. Enter thing on my other caps! I think the other SA sets I've gotten are pretty consistently "Return", but now that I check I see at least one has something weird going on where the renders say Return and the kit diagrams say Enter on the same ANSI key )

[HoodrowThrillson]

Thanks for clarifying!

Weird, I guess I never noticed the Return vs. Enter thing on my other caps! I think the other SA sets I've gotten are pretty consistently "Return", but now that I check I see at least one has something weird going on where the renders say Return and the kit diagrams say Enter on the same ANSI key )

Renders are being redone because there are some differences between Maxkey and SP molds.

[dr_unconscionable]

Thanks for clarifying!

Weird, I guess I never noticed the Return vs. Enter thing on my other caps! I think the other SA sets I've gotten are pretty consistently "Return", but now that I check I see at least one has something weird going on where the renders say Return and the kit diagrams say Enter on the same ANSI key )

Renders are being redone because there are some differences between Maxkey and SP molds.

Oh sorry, I wasn't commenting on your renders! I was talking about weird renders from another different set lol.
And I figured these were going to change, since they still have the distinctive Maxkey arrows

[HoodrowThrillson]

Thanks for clarifying!

Weird, I guess I never noticed the Return vs. Enter thing on my other caps! I think the other SA sets I've gotten are pretty consistently "Return", but now that I check I see at least one has something weird going on where the renders say Return and the kit diagrams say Enter on the same ANSI key )

Renders are being redone because there are some differences between Maxkey and SP molds.

Oh sorry, I wasn't commenting on your renders! I was talking about weird renders from another different set lol.
And I figured these were going to change, since they still have the distinctive Maxkey arrows

SP SA has molds for arrows (and we like them better than the words so we're going with them)

[konstantin]

Thoughts on new kitting:

• Looks good overall. It's obvious that some thought has gone into it.
• Not sure how useful a 1.75u LShift (green) would be; probably not very much. Is this key supposed to be 2u?
• R1 PgDn and End can be moved to the Numpad kit. See below for details.
• Spacebars: It'd be nice to have a 1u spacekey in here as well.
• 40s: Typo in R3 1.25u white Ctrl legend.
• 40s: Is R3 1.5u Win instead of Super intended? Is it supposed to double as a 1.5u Ctrl key? If so, maybe Code would be more appropriate?
• 40s: A 6.25u spacebar might be a worthwhile inclusion.
• 40s: Perhaps two 1.5u spacekeys might be more useful than two 1.25u spacekeys? (for Atreus, Lily, Crkbd etc.)

Re R1 PgDn, End: If you recall, at the start of the IC I suggested moving these keys from Extension to Numpad. In this post you made a good point that those keys were better suited for Extension. However, since the Extension kit is no longer around, I now claim that these keys would be better in the Numpad kit instead of Mods so that people who don't use numpads don't need to pay for them (again, they are only used on boards that have numpads: 1800/CP/96-key).

[HoodrowThrillson]

Thoughts on new kitting:

• Looks good overall. It's obvious that some thought has gone into it.
• Not sure how useful a 1.75u LShift (green) would be; probably not very much. Is this key supposed to be 2u?
• R1 PgDn and End can be moved to the Numpad kit. See below for details.
• Spacebars: It'd be nice to have a 1u spacekey in here as well.
• 40s: Typo in R3 1.25u white Ctrl legend.
• 40s: Is R3 1.5u Win instead of Super intended? Is it supposed to double as a 1.5u Ctrl key? If so, maybe Code would be more appropriate?
• 40s: A 6.25u spacebar might be a worthwhile inclusion.
• 40s: Perhaps two 1.5u spacekeys might be more useful than two 1.25u spacekeys? (for Atreus, Lily, Crkbd etc.)

Re R1 PgDn, End: If you recall, at the start of the IC I suggested moving these keys from Extension to Numpad. In this post you made a good point that those keys were better suited for Extension. However, since the Extension kit is no longer around, I now claim that these keys would be better in the Numpad kit instead of Mods so that people who don't use numpads don't need to pay for them (again, they are only used on boards that have numpads: 1800/CP/96-key).

• 1.75U LShift is being swapped to 2U
• R1 PgDn and End is being moved to numpad, since if people are using an 1800, they'd need to pick up a numpad.
• Typo being fixed.
• 40s kit keys being fixed (Win to super, 2 1.5U)
• There is a 6.25u spacebar in the Alphas kit, which they will need to pick up regardless.

[konstantin]

• 1.75U LShift is being swapped to 2U
• R1 PgDn and End is being moved to numpad, since if people are using an 1800, they'd need to pick up a numpad.
• Typo being fixed.
• 40s kit keys being fixed (Win to super, 2 1.5U)

• There is a 6.25u spacebar in the Alphas kit, which they will need to pick up regardless.

Yep, you're totally right, I overlooked that. Thanks for the sanity check.

[HoodrowThrillson]

SA Jadeite
Signature Plastics SA
Collaboration between HoodrowThrillson and OneCreativeMind
Interest Check here

GB Date: September 2020

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RAMA WORKS U80A + SA Jadeite Alphas and Modifers

What is Jadeite?
Jadeite is one of the two mineral species that fall under the classification of jade (the other one is called nephrite).

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And the theme?
This past winter, I had the opportunity to travel to Taiwan with my S/O as well as my Taiwanese friend and his S/O. During that time, I got to experience all there was to do in Taiwan. One of the most memorable places we got to go to was the National Palace Museum. I was fortunate enough to see the Jade Cabbage, which this set is based off of. Yes I did IC KAM Jade but this set will probably replace that.

The image I took of the Jade Cabbage is below.

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Colors

Signature Plastics PBT Colors

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From left to right: VS, VAZ, VCB, WAN

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Vendors? Pricing?

NA: Novelkeys
EU: Mykeyboard
Asia: Monokei
OCE: Daily Clack

Alphas: $xx
Modifiers: $xx
Numpad: $xx
ISO: $xx
40s + Ortho: $xx
Spacebars: $xx
Treasures: $xx
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Kits?

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Renders
As always, done by Abec13

U80A

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Think 6.5

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Neuron

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[konstantin]

this is berry nice

[HoodrowThrillson]

this is berry nice

I clearly ****ed something up  )

OP has been updated with new kitting, updated renders.

We will be using selectric arrows because OCM and I like them better than triangles or words.

[konstantin]

Updated kitting looks good And arrows are nice.

[Anthixious]

Will indeed be on the lookout for this GB. Love the design, the medium green and light green on the modifiers/alphas could have one more row of keys each shaded, but other than that, love it.

[Surefoot]

Do i need another green SA set ? maybe not. But that one is looking so good, i dont think i can resist.

[Anthixious]

Do i need another green SA set ? maybe not. But that one is looking so good, i dont think i can resist.

Yes, the answer is yes you need another one

[Billizard]

I am in

[paperassgasket]

Stoked for this.
Has an actual date been announced or are we still at 'sometime in september?'

[HoodrowThrillson]

Stoked for this.
Has an actual date been announced or are we still at 'sometime in september?'

Waiting for a few more things before I do one last update before GB.

[NoxNoxNox]

I just saw that this is now SP.  Big hype train!

[fail]

currently divided between this and KAT Iron. may i request a render on an e-white/white keyboard?

[HoodrowThrillson]

The Final Update.

GB date - set
Pricing - set
Kits - set
Vendors - set (I added a CA vendor because people wanted it)

We're all clear skies till GB launches.

[MIXO Cables]

this is looking good, gonna cop this tmr