[GB] R6 Zealios / Zealencios / Transparent Screw-in Stabs V2 (Complete)

[Zeal]

Hey guys, Zeal here again with another Round 6 Zealio switch GB & accessories. Gateron and I have worked quite a bit to perform micro tweaks to our stabilizers to improve its usage. The changes made should fix the wire popping out issue some people experienced.

GB pricing will end May 14, 2017 midnight (PST). Order is expected to ship from Gateron around mid-June. This GB will have a quick turnaround, hence the shorter two week GB pricing schedule.


Click the images for links to the site!

R6 Zealio Switches:


Zeal Transparent Stabilizers V2: (made stabilizer inserts less tight, tightened wire pivot hole)


Zealencio Silencing Clips:



Cheers,

Zeal


FAQ:

Q: Where are the Linear Zealios?
A: Still working with Gateron to improve the Linear Zealios. Will probably introduce them again Q2-Q3 2017 for R7 GB.

Q: Zeal65 PCB/"Gravitas" kit?
A: The 65% keyboard kit Codename: Gravitas will launch as a separate GB. Prototypes should be ready soon though.

[Zeal]

May 16, 2017
9/30 boxes Delivered

May 17, 2017
25/30 boxes Delivered

Orders will start shipping tonight.

May 24, 2017
GB Complete. All orders shipped. (Minus Zeal60 PCB orders, still waiting on assembly)

[zacheadams]

Nice, this certainly looks interesting.

Any revisions to Zealios/Zealencios?

[Tobi45]

Took a look into this and was tempted to order 150 switches. Only shipping option I get is DHL express though and I'm kind of scared that the customs take in the parcel. If that happens I got to pay like 30€ to DHL alone (not the custom fees) and I don't want that. Is there really no other possibility to send the stuff? Order twice, once 100 then 50? Anyone from Europe or even Germany has any experience with Zealios shipped by DHL Express?

Thanks in advance!

[demorior]

in. woot.

[Oblotzky]

Took a look into this and was tempted to order 150 switches. Only shipping option I get is DHL express though and I'm kind of scared that the customs take in the parcel. If that happens I got to pay like 30€ to DHL alone (not the custom fees) and I don't want that. Is there really no other possibility to send the stuff? Order twice, once 100 then 50? Anyone from Europe or even Germany has any experience with Zealios shipped by DHL Express?

Thanks in advance!

I've ordered from Zeal and shipped to Germany, I was able to pick Canadian Air as a carrier for 10$, and it skipped customs.

[xondat]

Took a look into this and was tempted to order 150 switches. Only shipping option I get is DHL express though and I'm kind of scared that the customs take in the parcel. If that happens I got to pay like 30€ to DHL alone (not the custom fees) and I don't want that. Is there really no other possibility to send the stuff? Order twice, once 100 then 50? Anyone from Europe or even Germany has any experience with Zealios shipped by DHL Express?

Thanks in advance!

DHL have their customs sorted. Goes straight to you and you might get invoiced for it afterwards.

[Zeal]

Nice, this certainly looks interesting.

Any revisions to Zealios/Zealencios?

No changes made to Zealios/Zealencios. Pretty happy with how they are right now.

Took a look into this and was tempted to order 150 switches. Only shipping option I get is DHL express though and I'm kind of scared that the customs take in the parcel. If that happens I got to pay like 30€ to DHL alone (not the custom fees) and I don't want that. Is there really no other possibility to send the stuff? Order twice, once 100 then 50? Anyone from Europe or even Germany has any experience with Zealios shipped by DHL Express?

Thanks in advance!

PM'd.

[zoomwalt]

I heard you guys are working towards having less wobble. Will that be reflected in this round?

[Zeal]

I heard you guys are working towards having less wobble. Will that be reflected in this round?

The current tactile Zealios already have reduced wobble since R4. This round of Zealios will be no different.

[Elrick]

The current tactile Zealios already have reduced wobble since R4. This round of Zealios will be no different.

Thanks for letting us all know.

I'll be going for some of your Milky Bottoms here Zeal, thanks for providing them  .

[Atredl]

I'll probably just get some stabilizers this round to get the most up to date version. I now have a surplus of Zealios since a couple of builds got cancelled.

[OkinaDaikon]

I jumped in on both the 67g Zealios and the Stabilizers, along with the Zeal60 PCB. I can hardly wait!

[digisax]

Since you mentioned Linear Zeals, any chance of clicky Zeals? I'd love clicky switches with the tactility of Zealios.

[Zeal]

Since you mentioned Linear Zeals, any chance of clicky Zeals? I'd love clicky switches with the tactility of Zealios.

Give the Zealiostotle mod a try. Cannot beat it's clicky sound or tactile feedback. Unfortunately, there aren't plans to make factory made zealiostotles due to a few limiting factors.

[skaloola]

The Zeal60 says that the LEDs are presoldered.  I guess they're in switch LEDs.. or how would we get the Zealios onto the PCB?

Any plans on perhaps a ZealTKL PCB?

edit:
Oh and, those thingies to hotswap switches.   i'm thinking that using those in future builds would be a good idea.  especially for say, limited edition custom builds.. say you have a Duck Orion, if you used those rather than solder in switches you could more or less still customize it however you'd like.

Altnough, wait, you do still need to solder these things in like Sip Sockets right?  finally, any compatability issues between them?

[Zeal]

The Zeal60 says that the LEDs are presoldered.  I guess they're in switch LEDs.. or how would we get the Zealios onto the PCB?

Any plans on perhaps a ZealTKL PCB?

They are surface mount LEDs shining through the PCB via a cutout. That's why Zealios are the recommended switch to pair with the board due to the fully transparent housing.

There are plans for a TKL in the future, but no firm dates yet.

[Elrick]

They are surface mount LEDs shining through the PCB via a cutout. That's why Zealios are the recommended switch to pair with the board due to the fully transparent housing.

There are plans for a TKL in the future, but no firm dates yet.

The TKL Zeal, will go Gangbusters here on GH Central.

Looking forward to that one, having a fully fitted out TKL keyboard, showing the World what it's like when you go FULL Zeal on it  .

[TelFiRE]

Cool man might have to get me some stabs and more of them Japanese KitKats 

[Latin00032]

I'm still waiting on the stabs from the r5 gb.
Are the v1 stabs that bad?

[Zeal]

I'm still waiting on the stabs from the r5 gb.
Are the v1 stabs that bad?

We'll be automatically upgrading v1 stabs to v2 ones if you had them added with your Zeal60 order.

[Latin00032]

I'm still waiting on the stabs from the r5 gb.
Are the v1 stabs that bad?

We'll be automatically upgrading v1 stabs to v2 ones if you had them added with your Zeal60 order.

Yes I'm still waiting on the zeal 60 with the rest of the items since the zeal60s needed to be replaced

[demorior]

Hi Zeal I placed an order for some zealios can I add the stabs without paying for shipping again?i

[zacheadams]

Hi Zeal I placed an order for some zealios can I add the stabs without paying for shipping again?i

Just message/email them, they will combine the orders.

[demorior]

Hi Zeal I placed an order for some zealios can I add the stabs without paying for shipping again?i

Just message/email them, they will combine the orders.

thanks! will do

[blai5000]

Would using Zealencios on silent reds make the switch even more silent, or should I just stick to one or the other?

[TelFiRE]

Since I've gone totally insane and building like 4 boards, I was thinking about varying up at least one of them and doing Zealencios and trying to make it as quiet as possible. Do you think any different weighted spring Zealios are particularly quieter than the others?

[Zeal]

Would using Zealencios on silent reds make the switch even more silent, or should I just stick to one or the other?

It would make it more quiet, but the overall feel will be affected. Travel reduction will also be much more noticeable due to double the dampening effects. Will depend on your personal taste whether or not you'll like the feel. I'd personally recommend just sticking with one or the other. Sometimes more isn't better.

Since I've gone totally insane and building like 4 boards, I was thinking about varying up at least one of them and doing Zealencios and trying to make it as quiet as possible. Do you think any different weighted spring Zealios are particularly quieter than the others?

62g would technically be quieter, but wouldn't be really noticeable in day to day use, especially after lubing the switches. The sound dampening you get from lubing alone is already night and day (plus the added benefit of an even smoother feel).

[Atredl]

Would using Zealencios on silent reds make the switch even more silent, or should I just stick to one or the other?

Interestingly enough, ManofInterests has a video about that exact combination

[blai5000]

Would using Zealencios on silent reds make the switch even more silent, or should I just stick to one or the other?

It would make it more quiet, but the overall feel will be affected. Travel reduction will also be much more noticeable due to double the dampening effects. Will depend on your personal taste whether or not you'll like the feel. I'd personally recommend just sticking with one or the other. Sometimes more isn't better.

Since I've gone totally insane and building like 4 boards, I was thinking about varying up at least one of them and doing Zealencios and trying to make it as quiet as possible. Do you think any different weighted spring Zealios are particularly quieter than the others?

62g would technically be quieter, but wouldn't be really noticeable in day to day use, especially after lubing the switches. The sound dampening you get from lubing alone is already night and day (plus the added benefit of an even smoother feel).

Would using Zealencios on silent reds make the switch even more silent, or should I just stick to one or the other?

Interestingly enough, ManofInterests has a video about that exact combination

Got it, thanks!  I'll be using Zealencios on non-silents then.

[PotatoTM]

Has anyone had any experience lubing Zealiostotles? How did it turn out?
 I figure I'll need to open the switches to replace the stems anyway why not lube them at the same time. Recommended lube?

[Lisinge]

Took a look into this and was tempted to order 150 switches. Only shipping option I get is DHL express though and I'm kind of scared that the customs take in the parcel. If that happens I got to pay like 30€ to DHL alone (not the custom fees) and I don't want that. Is there really no other possibility to send the stuff? Order twice, once 100 then 50? Anyone from Europe or even Germany has any experience with Zealios shipped by DHL Express?

Thanks in advance!

PM'd.

I have a order for Zeal60 and a bunch of other stuff but i'm thinking about getting another one in the same order but customs would sting a lot.
I would gladly take a PM if you (zeal) have some secret to share about this?

[Zeal]

Has anyone had any experience lubing Zealiostotles? How did it turn out?
 I figure I'll need to open the switches to replace the stems anyway why not lube them at the same time. Recommended lube?

I wouldn't recommend lubing Zealiostotles. You run a high chance of ruining the clicky sound and affecting the tactile bump.

[Robotical]

Has anyone had any experience lubing Zealiostotles? How did it turn out?
 I figure I'll need to open the switches to replace the stems anyway why not lube them at the same time. Recommended lube?

I wouldn't recommend lubing Zealiostotles. You run a high chance of ruining the clicky sound and affecting the tactile bump.

Honestly, don't even think they need the lube either. They feel amazing after the stem swap.

[Yuuki]

Hello Zeal,

I have some questions :

1/ I have the previous version of the stabz with the wire popping out. The only thing you changed is the insert and pivot right ? Is the wire  the same ?
2/ Just want to be sure, but the zealios PCB 67g can be "converted" to a plate mounted one without a problem ? (I can cut the addictionnal legs like any other cherry switch) ?
3/ is it possible to order some zealancios for 2 tkl wkl keyboard ? (84 keys) without ordering 2x100 ? (I was thinking 2x90 instead and I would still have 6 spare for each)

 

[Zeal]

Hello Zeal,

I have some questions :

1/ I have the previous version of the stabz with the wire popping out. The only thing you changed is the insert and pivot right ? Is the wire  the same ?
2/ Just want to be sure, but the zealios PCB 67g can be "converted" to a plate mounted one without a problem ? (I can cut the addictionnal legs like any other cherry switch) ?
3/ is it possible to order some zealancios for 2 tkl wkl keyboard ? (84 keys) without ordering 2x100 ? (I was thinking 2x90 instead and I would still have 6 spare for each)

 

Wire is the same, insert and pivot were tweaked.
Correct, cut the plastic legs off if you want to convert them to plate mount style switches.
Zealencios will only be sold as 70/100/120 on my site. If you'd like to fit 2x WKL kits, you could purchase 100x, 70x, leaving 2 extra. You'll hardly need extras during mounting.

[Yuuki]

Thanks for the answers

And yes you are right about the zealancios. I'm dumb. And I have some spare from last time too.
And yes you don't really need spare for zealancios

[TheNamesTy45]

I'm still waiting on the stabs from the r5 gb.
Are the v1 stabs that bad?

We'll be automatically upgrading v1 stabs to v2 ones if you had them added with your Zeal60 order.

Thanks for doing this, Zeal! Definitely makes the wait for the Zeal60 even more worth it.

Also, if you end up doing a TKL version, just take my money. TKL is by FAR my favorite form factor.

[TelFiRE]

My Macropad with 65g Zeals is complete. The switches feel so good find myself turning my volume up and down with it just to feel the keypress

I am putting together another order. If I do get lube, do I want to avoid lubing certain parts to keep this nice tactility? I've read that lubing can reduce it. Also do you think a single tube of GH V4 Thick Lube would be enough to lube 400 switches? (Sorry missed the part where it says it's enough for a fullsize + a bit, guess I will probably need at least 3)

Thanks for your awesome products and general awesomeness!

[Zeal]

My Macropad with 65g Zeals is complete. The switches feel so good find myself turning my volume up and down with it just to feel the keypress

I am putting together another order. If I do get lube, do I want to avoid lubing certain parts to keep this nice tactility? I've read that lubing can reduce it. Also do you think a single tube of GH V4 Thick Lube would be enough to lube 400 switches? (Sorry missed the part where it says it's enough for a fullsize + a bit, guess I will probably need at least 3)

Thanks for your awesome products and general awesomeness!

Experiment with a few switches with different lubing techniques and try to find one that suits your preferences. I personally lube the bottom housing rails, springs inside and out and pretty much all surfaces of the stem other than the tactile legs when lubing for a build. Some may like that feel, others may not.

[Zeal]

Friendly reminder that GB order will be concluding at the end of May 14th 11:59PM. Pre-order pricing will kick in after that.
Gateron has also confirmed production is done and will start shipping Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday (3 batches!)

[AlexG]

Have there been any changes made to the Zealencios?

[Zeal]

Have there been any changes made to the Zealencios?

No changes needed or planned.

[breusch91]

Have there been any changes made to the Zealencios?

No changes needed or planned.

Zeal anyway we can get that GB pricing kept till the 15th? I imagine I cant be the only one low on cash that would love to buy in but doesnt get their paycheck/Direct Deposit till the 15th.

[Zeal]

Have there been any changes made to the Zealencios?

No changes needed or planned.

Zeal anyway we can get that GB pricing kept till the 15th? I imagine I cant be the only one low on cash that would love to buy in but doesnt get their paycheck/Direct Deposit till the 15th.

You're not the only one, I've also received a similar PM. I'll extend it by another day, til the night of 15th.

[Grimspoon]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

[Zeal]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

If you press on the horizontal bits of the cross with needle nose pliers 1-2 times each side, it would make the fit less tight which reduces the odds of the wire popping out.

Zeal60 Rev2 boards are delayed til mid/late June because I had to reject a large majority of boards that came in due to surface scratches. They're currently being remade by the fab. PCB orders that had an order of transparent stabilizers from R5 GB will be automatically upgraded to our V2 stab housings, which have fixed the wire popping out issue. You'll also receive a sets of v2 stab plastic parts to "upgrade" your previous order if you choose to have those swapped out.

[JDragon]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

So if we ordered R1 Zeal stabs, we can get some extra plastic bits shipped in our GB orders? Where should I note that?
If you press on the horizontal bits of the cross with needle nose pliers 1-2 times each side, it would make the fit less tight which reduces the odds of the wire popping out.

Zeal60 Rev2 boards are delayed til mid/late June because I had to reject a large majority of boards that came in due to surface scratches. They're currently being remade by the fab. PCB orders that had an order of transparent stabilizers from R5 GB will be automatically upgraded to our V2 stab housings, which have fixed the wire popping out issue. You'll also receive a sets of v2 stab plastic parts to "upgrade" your previous order if you choose to have those swapped out.

[Zeal]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

So if we ordered R1 Zeal stabs, we can get some extra plastic bits shipped in our GB orders? Where should I note that?
If you press on the horizontal bits of the cross with needle nose pliers 1-2 times each side, it would make the fit less tight which reduces the odds of the wire popping out.

Zeal60 Rev2 boards are delayed til mid/late June because I had to reject a large majority of boards that came in due to surface scratches. They're currently being remade by the fab. PCB orders that had an order of transparent stabilizers from R5 GB will be automatically upgraded to our V2 stab housings, which have fixed the wire popping out issue. You'll also receive a sets of v2 stab plastic parts to "upgrade" your previous order if you choose to have those swapped out.

Just send me a PM with your order # referencing the older V1, and I'll include the upgrade parts in your R6 GB.

[Owl-]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

[BlackInk]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

I want the uprade parts too, ill send you an email

So if we ordered R1 Zeal stabs, we can get some extra plastic bits shipped in our GB orders? Where should I note that?
If you press on the horizontal bits of the cross with needle nose pliers 1-2 times each side, it would make the fit less tight which reduces the odds of the wire popping out.

Zeal60 Rev2 boards are delayed til mid/late June because I had to reject a large majority of boards that came in due to surface scratches. They're currently being remade by the fab. PCB orders that had an order of transparent stabilizers from R5 GB will be automatically upgraded to our V2 stab housings, which have fixed the wire popping out issue. You'll also receive a sets of v2 stab plastic parts to "upgrade" your previous order if you choose to have those swapped out.

Just send me a PM with your order # referencing the older V1, and I'll include the upgrade parts in your R6 GB.

[Zeal]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios since the beginning come lightly lubed on the tactile legs. If you want to further enhance the smoothness, you'll have to manually lube the stem & bottom housing.

[JDragon]

Had a V1 stab pop out on me earlier this week. Is there a thread or documentation where people are discussing how they've resolved the problem?

I managed to get mine back in place without too much trouble but am curious how others dealt with it.

I've got the new Zeal60 on order, really looking forward to the new board and new stabs. I missed an update or two I'm sure, did something happen with the R2 Zeal60 production? I'm really out of the loop.

So if we ordered R1 Zeal stabs, we can get some extra plastic bits shipped in our GB orders? Where should I note that?
If you press on the horizontal bits of the cross with needle nose pliers 1-2 times each side, it would make the fit less tight which reduces the odds of the wire popping out.

Zeal60 Rev2 boards are delayed til mid/late June because I had to reject a large majority of boards that came in due to surface scratches. They're currently being remade by the fab. PCB orders that had an order of transparent stabilizers from R5 GB will be automatically upgraded to our V2 stab housings, which have fixed the wire popping out issue. You'll also receive a sets of v2 stab plastic parts to "upgrade" your previous order if you choose to have those swapped out.

Just send me a PM with your order # referencing the older V1, and I'll include the upgrade parts in your R6 GB.

Thanks, sending PM now

[Latin00032]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios since the beginning come lightly lubed on the tactile legs. If you want to further enhance the smoothness, you'll have to manually lube the stem & bottom housing.

Are the stabs prelubed?

[Zeal]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios since the beginning come lightly lubed on the tactile legs. If you want to further enhance the smoothness, you'll have to manually lube the stem & bottom housing.

Are the stabs prelubed?

No..not possible unless you want an oily mess when assembling.

[TelFiRE]

oily mess

 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[TelFiRE]

Do you think it is likely there will ever be Zealios with the "light pipe" that Input Club has added to the Kailhs and their new Halo switches that come with the Type K?

[Zeal]

Zealios are already fully transparent so it doesn't really need a "light pipe" to guide light through the bottom housing.

Received 25/30 boxes today. Zealios have all arrived. Remaining 5 boxes have the Zealencios/V2 stabilizers.

GB orders will start shipping tonight.

[PotatoTM]

Excited!

[Dreamre]

Zealios are already fully transparent so it doesn't really need a "light pipe" to guide light through the bottom housing.

Received 25/30 boxes today. Zealios have all arrived. Remaining 5 boxes have the Zealencios/V2 stabilizers.

GB orders will start shipping tonight.

Wow. Thanks Henry! That was so quick!

[Concerned_apathy]

Dam. is it too late to join? Was thinking of grabbing some for my lightsaver.

[TelFiRE]

Dam. is it too late to join? Was thinking of grabbing some for my lightsaver.

https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio

You can still get it, but the pricing has gone up to pre-order pricing.

[rpeterclark]

Wow, shipping notification received! Thanks Zeal!

[iNViSiBiLiTi]

Will R6 be lubed in any way?

All Zealios are factory lubed on the stems but it should never replace hand lubing.  Lubing the rails affects the sound of the switch and in my experience makes them smoother when pressing keys off-center. 

[TheNamesTy45]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

[PotatoTM]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

The current ETA is mid-june right? I'm in no real rush so I haven't been following any updates :\

[mypainishurt]

Ahh shucks. I missed out on the GB. What was the pricing on each switch during the GB?

[PotatoTM]

Ahh shucks. I missed out on the GB. What was the pricing on each switch during the GB?

$0.75 per switch, they are currently in pre-order prices which is $0.85 per switch compared to the usual $1.00 per switch (All in USD)

[Zeal]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

The current ETA is mid-june right? I'm in no real rush so I haven't been following any updates :\

Currently mid-June-ish. I'm receiving a few sample boards today to make sure everything is good to go. When given the OK, the fab will start with the assembly. Bare PCBs have already been remade.

[lecorsair]

I find it a bit problematic to phrase this correctly, so please bear with with me.

If I'm looking for the most "tactile/crisp" feedback (NOT spring resistance), is the 62g the way to go of all the variants? I have the 67g and 78g switches and what I find is that while the 67g has a noticeable bump, the heavier springs in the 78g seems to mask/reduce the feel of the expected bump. Would going with the lightest variant be what I'm looking for? Thanks for any insights.

[PotatoTM]

Hey Zeal, we still looking good for Zeal60 in the next few weeks?

The current ETA is mid-june right? I'm in no real rush so I haven't been following any updates :\

Currently mid-June-ish. I'm receiving a few sample boards today to make sure everything is good to go. When given the OK, the fab will start with the assembly. Bare PCBs have already been remade.

Good news! Il take quality over speed anytime.

[Malenky]

I find it a bit problematic to phrase this correctly, so please bear with with me.

If I'm looking for the most "tactile/crisp" feedback (NOT spring resistance), is the 62g the way to go of all the variants? I have the 67g and 78g switches and what I find is that while the 67g has a noticeable bump, the heavier springs in the 78g seems to mask/reduce the feel of the expected bump. Would going with the lightest variant be what I'm looking for? Thanks for any insights.

A lot of people say that the 67g do feel the most tactile and crisp. In my experience from trying 62/65/67, the 67g felt the most tactile to me. There are a lot of other things that affect apparent tactility though, for example, an aluminium plate will feel more tactile than a steel plate, as it will flex a *tiny* amount as the tactile bump creates resistance, accentuating the bump.

[lecorsair]

I find it a bit problematic to phrase this correctly, so please bear with with me.

If I'm looking for the most "tactile/crisp" feedback (NOT spring resistance), is the 62g the way to go of all the variants? I have the 67g and 78g switches and what I find is that while the 67g has a noticeable bump, the heavier springs in the 78g seems to mask/reduce the feel of the expected bump. Would going with the lightest variant be what I'm looking for? Thanks for any insights.

A lot of people say that the 67g do feel the most tactile and crisp. In my experience from trying 62/65/67, the 67g felt the most tactile to me. There are a lot of other things that affect apparent tactility though, for example, an aluminium plate will feel more tactile than a steel plate, as it will flex a *tiny* amount as the tactile bump creates resistance, accentuating the bump.

Thank you for the quick feedback. Mind if I ask what type of keycaps you are using yours with?

[Cocopah]

Nice, Zealencios and v2 stabs must have came in early.

[Zeal]

GB complete, finished shipping out everyone's order. Only Zeal60 orders are outstanding.

[PotatoTM]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

[smittysteve]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

Howdy. I've made a few sets of Zealiostotles now and I don't think that's necessary. The reason you don't want to lube the sliders is because of the funky 'click' mechanism on the Aristotle stems. Lube is likely to muck that up and cost you some click. But whatever lube is left on the Zealio housing is just fine. Zealiostotles are phenomenal, by the way... such a tasty crisp clicky!! Good luck. PM me if you have any other questions or anything. 

[Zeal]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

It's never a good idea to wash switches in water. The tiny bit of lube on the leaf isn't going to affect the zealiostotles. Just mod the stems into the housings and you're set.

[boo]

Hey quick question, I've harvested Aristotle Switches for their stems and now just waiting for the Zealios to arrive to then swap their stems to create Zealiostotles. I was also advised to not lube the switches as it makes them loose their "clickyness"?

Anyways, my question is that since Zealios come slightly pre-lubed should I wash the housings and springs in warm water and soap to remove what little lube is on there before re-assembling them with the Aristotle stems?

I do recommend cleaning the Aristotle stems using 99% alcohol. I've noticed mine had some black oil on the legs and a simple wipe was all it needed.


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[PotatoTM]

It's never a good idea to wash switches in water. The tiny bit of lube on the leaf isn't going to affect the zealiostotles. Just mod the stems into the housings and you're set.

I do recommend cleaning the Aristotle stems using 99% alcohol. I've noticed mine had some black oil on the legs and a simple wipe was all it needed.

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Howdy. I've made a few sets of Zealiostotles now and I don't think that's necessary. The reason you don't want to lube the sliders is because of the funky 'click' mechanism on the Aristotle stems. Lube is likely to muck that up and cost you some click. But whatever lube is left on the Zealio housing is just fine. Zealiostotles are phenomenal, by the way... such a tasty crisp clicky!! Good luck. PM me if you have any other questions or anything. 

Alright, thanks for the help guys 

[xantiema]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

[Dreamre]

Man, this was the fastest GB. Thanks Zeal! The new stabs are awesome!

[Zeal]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

[ArchDill]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

Yuuuuuuuuuus!

Just got some vintage blacks.. Guess they will be put on the back burner. What color will the stem be? Clear or Purple?

[PotatoTM]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

Yuuuuuuuuuus!

Just got some vintage blacks.. Guess they will be put on the back burner. What color will the stem be? Clear or Purple?

I'm thinking pink! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83468.0)

[IAmPyhrra]

Wow Zeal making linears? Got my interest

[xantiema]

Any word on R7 /Linears yet?

I just returned from a visit with Gateron and I think it's safe to say linears will return for R7.

Yuuuuuuuuuus!

Just got some vintage blacks.. Guess they will be put on the back burner. What color will the stem be? Clear or Purple?

I'm thinking pink! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83468.0)

That'd be perfect x)

[FoC_Tow]

Pink Stems! <3<3<3

Pls make it happen Zeal <3

[DreLLin]

any news about orders which included a zeal 60 pcb? am eagerly awaiting my switches 

[Zeal]

Still waiting for the manufacturer to provide us with a date as to when the PCBs will be ready. The moment I receive news, I'll be posting in the gb thread.

[Zeal]

I have received an update from our manufacturer regarding the Zeal60 replacement boards. I should be receiving them by the end of the week. Will be flashing then / QCing over the weekend and wrap up asap. Thanks all for your patience.

[DreLLin]

I have received an update from our manufacturer regarding the Zeal60 replacement boards. I should be receiving them by the end of the week. Will be flashing then / QCing over the weekend and wrap up asap. Thanks all for your patience.

Fantastic news, thanks for the update. 

[PotatoTM]

I have received an update from our manufacturer regarding the Zeal60 replacement boards. I should be receiving them by the end of the week. Will be flashing then / QCing over the weekend and wrap up asap. Thanks all for your patience.

Great! Thanks for the update.