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Offline ReasonableGuy

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[IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:30:42 »
Reasonable65
Keyboard by ReasonableDude

I Loved the encoder knob of the satisfaction75 keyboard, and loved macro keys.
However, I felt like 75% was too big for me, So why not a 65% That seems a bit Reasonable?
Thus, the reasonable65 was created
 
The reasonable65 keyboard is currently in Development

Here is the current planned specifications of the Reasonable65:

= Hotswappable PCB
= Pre-soldered Encoder knob
= QMK functionality
= Centre usb-c port
= Top Mount
= 7 degree typing angle


Planned materials:

Case (top piece & bottom piece) = CNC Aluminium
Plate = Either, Brass or Aluminium
Weight = Brass


PLANNED PRICE : 200 - 250 (GBP)

CURRENT CHECKLIST :
Case (✓)
PCB (WIP)
Weight Design (WIP)
Manufacturers (WIP)
Vendors (WIP)

Any Feedback is appreciated! I will try to listen to the what the community wants! Thank you for stopping by,
and if you want updates, you can join my discord server :https://discord.gg/Mmc59cE

Currently planned Layout:





HERE ARE SOME RENDERS! (PCB & KNOB are placeholders!)





« Last Edit: Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:47:46 by ReasonableGuy »
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Offline Zanhana

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Re: [IC]Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:39:31 »
mounting system? case angle? layouts available? sound damping included?
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Offline ReasonableGuy

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Re: [IC]Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:48:26 »
Quote from: Zanhana on Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:39:31
mounting system? case angle? layouts available? sound damping included?
I have updated it, thank you for reminding me
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Offline dibstern

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 14:31:22 »
Split space planned?
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Offline Kokaloo

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 14:37:23 »
jer mini but bad
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Offline GraffitiDecos

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 19:17:43 »
Quote from: Kokaloo on Thu, 07 January 2021, 14:37:23
jer mini but bad
This is no way constructive.

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Offline UberPlatypus

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 20:37:27 »
Definitely interested in this. Please make sure to indent the USB-C port. It is the little things that matter. Good luck, I hope you can truly achieve the price you want. It seems very difficult to accomplish.

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Offline SherlockBunny

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 21:31:04 »
Always love the added functionality of the macro row, and the added nob is just icing on the cake. Was hoping for a solderable PCB for us split-backspace users though. Is that feasible?
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Offline jaekid

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 22:27:08 »
Finally! ;)
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Offline zedbraxmen

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 23:20:35 »
Why can't the artisan space macro column have 5 rows?
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Offline zedbraxmen

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 23:22:04 »
Quote from: zedbraxmen on Thu, 07 January 2021, 23:20:35
Why can't the artisan space macro column have 5 rows?
oh forgot about the knob don't mind me
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Offline Coldie75

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 00:24:34 »
I actually really like this layout! Just wish it could come in more colors (grey/silver???  ;D )
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Offline ReasonableGuy

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 03:00:40 »
Quote from: SherlockBunny on Thu, 07 January 2021, 21:31:04
Always love the added functionality of the macro row, and the added nob is just icing on the cake. Was hoping for a solderable PCB for us split-backspace users though. Is that feasible?
I am thinking of having both solderable and hotswap options, but then i need to make changes to the plate, so depends on how many people want solderable, However, for the split backspace support, im planning on putting that into the default hotswap pcb, mirroring the functionality like gk61x, Thank you for your feedback!
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Offline ReasonableGuy

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 03:03:21 »
Quote from: UberPlatypus on Thu, 07 January 2021, 20:37:27
Definitely interested in this. Please make sure to indent the USB-C port. It is the little things that matter. Good luck, I hope you can truly achieve the price you want. It seems very difficult to accomplish.

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I am trying to make usbc port indented, and for the price, i have discussed with some manufacturers, and if this keyboard gets enough interest, some have offered lower manufacturing price if there are 500 units, but right now i need to see their quality as I am going to order a prototype soon to see the quality.
Thank you!
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Offline ReasonableGuy

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 03:04:04 »
Quote from: dibstern on Thu, 07 January 2021, 14:31:22
Split space planned?
Yes, similiar in design  to the split spacebar of gk61x pcb
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Offline ReasonableGuy

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 03:05:12 »
Quote from: SherlockBunny on Thu, 07 January 2021, 21:31:04
Always love the added functionality of the macro row, and the added nob is just icing on the cake. Was hoping for a solderable PCB for us split-backspace users though. Is that feasible?
I am thinking of also adding a solderable option for the pcb, but i would need enough people to want the solderable pcb
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Offline ReasonableGuy

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 03:07:15 »
Quote from: Coldie75 on Fri, 08 January 2021, 00:24:34
I actually really like this layout! Just wish it could come in more colors (grey/silver???  ;D )
The Colours right now is soley planned to be black, but if this first one goes well, then it is possible to do a second run with different colours
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Offline elmo

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 03:49:23 »
How did you get to the price of 250 GBP?

You have no prototype, not even a PCB design so you can't possibly know what this board is going to cost to manufacture.

And I can assure you that you won't be able to make this for 250 GBP if you want half decent quality.
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Offline Kingjunguhn

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 08 January 2021, 05:32:20 »
Interested if there is a soldered version
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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 15:38:34 »
Quote from: elmo on Fri, 08 January 2021, 03:49:23
How did you get to the price of 250 GBP?

You have no prototype, not even a PCB design so you can't possibly know what this board is going to cost to manufacture.

And I can assure you that you won't be able to make this for 250 GBP if you want half decent quality.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Offline milka158

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 25 January 2021, 09:32:24 »
What about ISO support?
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Offline irohasu

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 25 January 2021, 10:08:23 »
Hoping for other colors :<
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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 26 January 2021, 08:19:31 »
The reasonable65 has a reasonable price so far 200-250 sounds amazing. I need more renders to get a better opinion on this Keeb
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[IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 26 January 2021, 08:21:30 »
Mounting post under spacebar, way too little information, no prototype, and yet you already know a price? Not to mention you let someone take your reserved slot...

edit: I apparently already replied to this thread, this board is so forgettable I legitimately forgot I replied here
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Offline Keeblet_257

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 26 January 2021, 08:22:31 »
has a good price so far and would consider ordering one, but i need more renders an would like the GB to be unlimited. wouldd liek to see some renders with some keycapsets like striker or red samurai as well as some alternative colours :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 02:51:03 »
Quote from: Keeblet_257 on Tue, 26 January 2021, 08:22:31
has a good price so far and would consider ordering one, but i need more renders an would like the GB to be unlimited. wouldd liek to see some renders with some keycapsets like striker or red samurai as well as some alternative colours :thumb: :thumb:

Quote from: Keeblet_257 on Tue, 26 January 2021, 08:19:31
The reasonable65 has a reasonable price so far 200-250 sounds amazing. I need more renders to get a better opinion on this Keeb

He's not going to be able to make this for that price.

There is no prototype and not even a finished PCB design so this guy has absolutely no clue what this board is going to cost in manufacturing.
He just threw a random price he thought sounded nice into the room.
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Offline misononyan

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Re: [IC] Reasonable65 - A 65% with macro keys and encoder knob
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 03:53:28 »
Quote from: elmo on Mon, 01 February 2021, 02:51:03
Quote from: Keeblet_257 on Tue, 26 January 2021, 08:22:31
has a good price so far and would consider ordering one, but i need more renders an would like the GB to be unlimited. wouldd liek to see some renders with some keycapsets like striker or red samurai as well as some alternative colours :thumb: :thumb:

Quote from: Keeblet_257 on Tue, 26 January 2021, 08:19:31
The reasonable65 has a reasonable price so far 200-250 sounds amazing. I need more renders to get a better opinion on this Keeb

He's not going to be able to make this for that price.

There is no prototype and not even a finished PCB design so this guy has absolutely no clue what this board is going to cost in manufacturing.
He just threw a random price he thought sounded nice into the room.

eh in terms of gbp it doesn't sound completely out of the realm of possibility all things considered, but i agree in the fact that people shouldn't put price projections out there without getting quotes and/or a prototype and an moq. i wouldn't say it's malicious but it's certainly not cool.

OP for further reference only give a price projection when you have quotes of your PCBs, cases, etc. and a general idea of what your markup will be when you sell. i get that it's enticing to throw out a price right at the start of an ic but without an actual proto in your hands doing that seems like you're setting others up for disappointment.
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