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Offline yui

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 08:02:36 »
against targeted attacks, nothing does anything, against automated attacks it does at least blocks what it knows to be malware, it is why i do consider it as above nothing, with nothing you can get infected by even the oldest and simplest viruses, so yes i do agree that it is not enough to be safe, but then nothing is so where do you draw the line?
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 08:31:06 »
against targeted attacks, nothing does anything, against automated attacks it does at least blocks what it knows to be malware, it is why i do consider it as above nothing, with nothing you can get infected by even the oldest and simplest viruses, so yes i do agree that it is not enough to be safe, but then nothing is so where do you draw the line?
Blocks malware?
What kind of an idiot malware maker ignores the basic default OS protection? Who's it going to infect? 
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 08:34:29 »
against targeted attacks, nothing does anything, against automated attacks it does at least blocks what it knows to be malware, it is why i do consider it as above nothing, with nothing you can get infected by even the oldest and simplest viruses, so yes i do agree that it is not enough to be safe, but then nothing is so where do you draw the line?
Blocks malware?
What kind of an idiot malware maker ignores the basic default OS protection? Who's it going to infect?
well every older malware that existed before it, and peoples aiming for older machines, that have not been updated because too important to have downtime for update, or idiots that disable it outright because it make the pc slower, the number of potential infection is smaller but not 0 and some can be rather juicy.
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 14:03:23 »
When I was younger I remember trying a few AVs like Norton and McAfee but got super annoyed with the updates and notifications to purchase ****.

I don't think I've used a single AV, not even MWB or CCleaner in over a decade. I just don't download sketchy stuff/click on random links.

Offline yui

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 23 December 2020, 02:04:34 »
When I was younger I remember trying a few AVs like Norton and McAfee but got super annoyed with the updates and notifications to purchase ****.

I don't think I've used a single AV, not even MWB or CCleaner in over a decade. I just don't download sketchy stuff/click on random links.
CCleaner will do absolutely nothing against any malware, not its job, and well your computer will, without you asking it, download stuff from sites you never heard off, those things are called adverts, and can be compromised to contain a payload, so you will browse a completely normal and safe site (ex. The Guardian or any site with ads) and randomly can get infected with no fault from the site or you, well some fault from you for running no AV but not the point, only because the advertisement agency did not properly check the ads (and it does somewhat happen often, even did to google not too long ago).
there exist some free AV that are less intrusive with asking you to buy, from my experience Comodo is pretty good with not being too annoying(although have not used it in years so maybe has changed) and ClamAV is an opensource AV engine that does not have any paid version, but it is kinda meh, it was built to check emails not run continuous on a pc, but still better than having nothing at all.
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 23 December 2020, 11:32:16 »
Yes I'm aware CCleaner isn't that type of program, I was just making the point that I don't use programs like that to 'Protect against x' or 'Increase performance' etc.

I'm also aware you can get infected from no fault of your own, but I still don't see any free AVs protecting you from something like that. I might be wrong, maybe you've been saved numerous times by adding that extra layer of protection.

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 23 December 2020, 21:00:40 »
I'm also aware you can get infected from no fault of your own, but I still don't see any free AVs protecting you from something like that. I might be wrong, maybe you've been saved numerous times by adding that extra layer of protection.
Web pages can link to hundreds of sites in the background.

How modern AV's protect you against a lot of that stuff is not with a patch, it's with proxies, firewalls and DNS, they simply block your system from contacting it in the first place. This is why Norton and others started implementing firewalls into their products and became more invasive. Your browser also more than likely also does some of this and it's probably saved you far more times than you will ever know. You can also use these systems to act as a privacy system to hide from your ISP as well as get access to these dns systems without using the AV, adguard is a popular one.

AVs do however block certain code from running and it's not just that they block code, they they can block different code. While many AV makers share a database of exploits, most also run their own independent labs analyzing and finding ways to block this stuff so not all are created equal. Some gain protection for exploits earlier than others, some do not block as much older stuff... They all have their pros and cons.

Fire up something like Ublock Origin and Privacy Badger and then hit up a few random websites, better yet, hit up popular news sites and take a look and see just how many different domains your browser is accessing without you knowing, not to mention how many companies are tracking you.  I've seen websites have 250 blocked items on a singe page, I've also had a website hit me with 700 cookies for tracking purposes.
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 24 December 2020, 00:56:37 »
Never heard of Privacy Badger before so I'll check that out, but I've definitely seen uBlock with a few hundred blocked items on some webpages - not really something I've paid a ton of attention to however.

I've had piHole running for almost a year though.. I haven't logged into the admin interface since I installed it so I don't know if theres any interesting analystics to see there, but it does a pretty good job, especially on mobile devices where there aren't much options for adblockers (especially iOS devices).

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 24 December 2020, 04:57:24 »
Yes I'm aware CCleaner isn't that type of program, I was just making the point that I don't use programs like that to 'Protect against x' or 'Increase performance' etc.

I'm also aware you can get infected from no fault of your own, but I still don't see any free AVs protecting you from something like that. I might be wrong, maybe you've been saved numerous times by adding that extra layer of protection.
i have a few times ran into bad adverts on good site that had gotten blocked by one of my AV, it is somewhat rare though, and well it was blocked so i do not know what it would have done
Fire up something like Ublock Origin and Privacy Badger and then hit up a few random websites, better yet, hit up popular news sites and take a look and see just how many different domains your browser is accessing without you knowing, not to mention how many companies are tracking you.  I've seen websites have 250 blocked items on a singe page, I've also had a website hit me with 700 cookies for tracking purposes.
and i tried to run privacy badger but it never seemed to do much, although it may be because noscript was also running, i have seen sites with about 250 blocked domains in noscripts, only once mind you and i do not remember what it was... and my noscript is set up so that it blocks everything by default, and i add exceptions as i go, so even some of googles domains are still blocked

and yeah pihole will help, but it only is a blacklist, if something is not in it it becomes useless (like windows defender)
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 12:22:40 »
I use free antivitrus Avast for a few months already, works well

Offline Leslieann

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 21:46:01 »
and i tried to run privacy badger but it never seemed to do much, although it may be because noscript was also running, i have seen sites with about 250 blocked domains in noscripts, only once mind you and i do not remember what it was... and my noscript is set up so that it blocks everything by default, and i add exceptions as i go, so even some of googles domains are still blocked
Privacy Badger doesn't work like any of the others, it notices extraneous sites that track you and after it sees it a third time it then blocks it but it only works after Ublock, Noscript and Pihole have been used.

If you already use a whitelist then PB will not do anything for you. Ublock also should also be almost useless.
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 00:45:13 »
If you already use a whitelist then PB will not do anything for you. Ublock also should also be almost useless.
well then yeah it is why it was doing a whole lot of nothing :) i thought it would run before noscript as i installed it before it but seems like it does not. although even with noscript ublock still does some work, especially on youtube where is sometimes blocks 2k+ ads, my pc is too old for all those ads...
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 22:33:01 »
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 19:08:42 »
I use AVAST as a recommendation from people. Okay and good.  :thumb:

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 04 June 2021, 07:41:01 »
If you really need an AV I recommend MalwareBytes and ByteDefender. You can go without an AV (what I do) assuming you aren't stupid and don't download everything you see. Assuming you are on Windows, they have a built in AV (Windows Defender) that does a serviceable job. 


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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 13 June 2021, 07:51:29 »
When I used to run windows, I used Spybot Search & Destroy and malwarebytes. I never ran antivirus and it seemed to me it was a lot more likely to get malware then a virus. I have gotten malware but never a virus on a windows pc.

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 15 July 2021, 12:42:14 »
windows defender all the way   ;D

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 16:35:29 »
Not really using any AV at the moment as switched to Arch Linux a little while back, and just relying on the fact there is a very minimal amount of virus targeting Linux systems.

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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 18:37:45 »
Not really using any AV at the moment as switched to Arch Linux a little while back, and just relying on the fact there is a very minimal amount of virus targeting Linux systems.

Just as long as you install security updates regularly ...
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Re: What Antivirus do you use?
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 23:02:14 »
I'd argue even an out of date Linux install is far more safe than Windows, especially if behind a hardware firewall like you have in your router/modem.
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