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Title: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Starts TOMORROW, 9/2 - GB thread is open!
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:08:43
(https://i.imgur.com/iqdZiC7.jpg)

Welcome to the IC for GMK Red Devils, inspired by the South Korean national soccer team and of course, Zambumon's GMK Striker. Even though this team has achieved only modest success on the world stage, few things stir up Korean national pride and unity as supporting their team in a major tournament.


Colors

(https://i.imgur.com/PgJBlQR.png)

A note about the red: It’s really more of a deep pink almost, a very pleasing hue if I do say so myself.


GB Info

This set will run from September 2-30 with the following vendors:

NA: TXKeyboards
Canada: DeskHero
EU: MyKeyboards
Asia: iLumkb
Oceania: DailyClack

(https://i.imgur.com/tpQzqLu.png)

NOTE ABOUT PRICING: I know many of you were disappointed that the Numpad+ISO kit was added to the Base kit, but as a standalone kit, it would have cost a prohibitive $55, whereas adding it to the base kit resulted in only a $10 increase.


Kits

Base

The base kit has compatibility for the most popular layouts in the community, from 60% and up, and features the reworked icon mods introduced with GMK 8008/9009. It also includes accent options for Esc and Enter, F13, terminal ISO, and brand new 한자 and 한/영 sublegends on ALT and CTRL for complete Hangul support.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZyyOr1U.jpg)

Hangul

This kit includes brand new molds for mono Hangul legends. NOTE: The primary legends (top left corner) have been slightly enlarged and bolded (compared to how they are as sublegends) to be more in line with cherry conventions. They will not however, be as bold as the standard Latin legends, as it would not look appropriate for Hangul.

(https://i.imgur.com/1XVKm1z.jpg)

Spacebars

This kit features odd-sized spacebars and a 2nd B/ㅠ and mono ㅠ for Alice layouts.

(https://i.imgur.com/iLlvfhl.jpg)

Taegukgi

The Taegukgi kit is a small novelty kit taking inspiration from the flag of South Korea. It adds a strong graphic element to the set and would also pair nicely with GMK Minimal.

(https://i.imgur.com/mO8Bjds.jpg)


Artisan Collaborations

Dokkaebi by Salvun

(https://i.imgur.com/eezD2bP.png)

Horangi by RAMA

(https://i.imgur.com/n8xcN12.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TyNrRJs.jpg)

Taeguk by RAMA

(https://i.imgur.com/SjVByTd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Uo2rw7a.jpg)


Deskmat

The Korean Wave

An abstract representation of the Taeguk (Korean Yin/Yang) in the form of a wave.

(https://i.imgur.com/xdemNii.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/OftRr7X.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sqU8nuT.jpg)


Renders by Janglad

TGR Jane

(https://i.imgur.com/358sBSw.jpg)

Keycult No. 1/65

(https://i.imgur.com/wukiwqo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4oyHb1f.jpg)

RAMA M60-A

(https://i.imgur.com/8cn6H7W.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ty1Jdr7.jpg)

HBCP

(https://i.imgur.com/4WfU2uU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SIIVqrS.jpg)


FAQs

1. What is 대한민국? 대한민국 (Daehan Minguk) is a popular cheer used in sports. It is akin to the "U-S-A!" chant that Americans are fond of.

2. What do the symbols in the Taegukgi kit mean? These are trigrams, or 괘 (gwae), that you may recognize from the flag of South Korea. They actually can mean a myriad of things—including the cardinal directions. See below chart from Wikipedia:

(https://i.imgur.com/U99Acxc.png)


To-Do

Feedback – Done
Artisans – Done
Vendors – Done
Date & Pricing – September 2-30, prices pending
Launch GB – Pending



If you would like to support this project, please use the banner below:


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:10:23
Changelog:

8.22.20
- Added final renders, NA pricing, and exact dates

8.5.20
- Poll results confirm mod style will remain as is (center aligned icons), with over 65% of the votes

7.31.20
- Will proceed with Option 1 for the RAMA Taeguk artisan
- Added a final poll to determine the style of mods. Please vote here (https://forms.gle/GaPa1qvu8jGpK4KZA).

7.23.20
- Changed R3 1.75u Control text to icon for more consistent look with lefthand mods
- Changed F-row Lock to Scroll
- Removed 00 key since standalone numpads are pretty rare overall
- Removed 2nd Tab and extra ALT keys from Hangul kit to keep cost down
- Hangul kit legend size/weight have been revised to be more in line with cherry standards
- Added 1u and 1.25u blanks to Spacebars kit, as well as a 2nd mono ㅠ key
- Changed deskmat background to black based on poll and added white trigrams
- Changed Salvun artisan base metal to aluminum and finish to anodization.

6.25.20
- Added illustration of Salvun cap, this will be a placeholder until Salvun can make samples
- Integrated numpad and ISO into the Base kit
- Changed ISO legends to terminal-style (# of keys remains the same)
- Dropped Mac bottom row swaps
- Moved Alice support and 6u spacebars into a separate Spacebars kit
- Dropped the 40s kit (unfortunately, interest for this was pretty low, especially since Alice support was originally provided in the Base kit and now will be present in the Spacebars kit)
- Please fill out the new IC Form (https://forms.gle/J83VM3dTBwRKFeq69)!

6.7.20
- Added RAMA cap

5.29.20
- Moved the 한자 and keys over onto the CTRL keys as per Windows native shortcuts

5.27.20
- Made the 한자 and 한/영 keys into sublegends on the ALT keys and added back Mac bottom row swaps to the Base kit

5.24.20
- Small correction in the Forties kit posted in OP, was missing a R3 1.5u Function key

5.23.20
- Added blue accents to all kits (GMK V4)
- In a nod to the Korean Kustoms that helped popularize them, F13 and Alice support have been added to the Base kit
- Added 한자 and 한/영 keys in 1u, 1.25u and 1.5u to the Base kit
- Added R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the Base kit
- Mac bottom row swaps and off-center 6u spacebar have been removed from the Base kit in order to accommodate the above changes
- Added a Hangul kit with 2nd tab (moved from Base kit)
- Added rudimentary ISO support to the Numpad kit
- Streamlined the Forties kit in a manner similar to GMK Cafe and GMK Apollo
- Changed 화이팅! to 대한민국 (this was much more popular in the poll)
- Added new render on an HBCP
- Added new render on a Planck Hi-Pro
- Added GB date and vendor list
- Updated IC form link with new form. Please fill it out! Link here (https://forms.gle/uyshTrJVaKgRxua38) for convenience.

**Additional note for the person who asked: I considered removing the tertiary legends for a cleaner look (a la GMK Pulse) but decided against it. Sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: OtherAndrew on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:10:51
kinda dank

edit: im afraid i will have to change my "pretty dank" to a "kinda dank" on account of the centered icon mods
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: neojonathan on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:11:51
대-한-민-국 짝짝짝짝짝

Definitely in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:12:23
Yup. Nice. Nice. Nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: trg1234 on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:14:43
대-한-민-국 짝짝짝짝짝

Definitely in

짝짝짝짝짝

(https://cdn1.domeggook.com//upload/item/2010/04/26/12722480763A94A8C59C4623A2C03F1D/12722480763A94A8C59C4623A2C03F1D_stt_330.png?hash=240c5cd44bd76545927ece33d10ec5f3)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: mydens on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:15:53
Quick we need another GMK set, said no one ever.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Koatl on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:17:24
Oh **** yo, those trigram keys. I'll pick up like 10 sets of those for sure.

EDIT: I just realized it's not all the trigrams. =[ Oh well, still very cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:18:55
오오오오오오오 필승 코리아

Some changes I'd like to suggest / know if it's possible:

- Icon + Text mods
- R5 bottom row
- Inclusion of some blue?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:20:40
GMK SKT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: ab042896 on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:22:17
Taegukgi kit is spectacular
+1 on some blue
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: ideus on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:22:42
This coloway is ideal for adding highlights to other sets with enter, esc, backspace and maybe control keys as well. You may want to consider to offer a set for that purpose.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: neojonathan on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:24:23
Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Capsy on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:24:40
Good set. Keep numpad in base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:26:03
Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?
+1 on this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: blitz on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:30:00
RAMA keycap of the Taeguk circle please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Koatl on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:32:22
RAMA keycap of the Taeguk circle please

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: trg1234 on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:36:25
Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?
+1 on this
+1 also mebbe korean only legends?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: neojonathan on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:44:12
Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?
+1 on this
+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

+1 on this as well
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: DJSwayde on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:44:24
I need dat Taegukgi kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:45:12
Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?
+1 on this
+1 also mebbe korean only legends?
+1 for korean only legends. Would be nice and easy to pair with WoB or other stock set mods!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: fcoury on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:48:03
Really like this. The only feedback I'd give is I'd love if the numpad kits would have the sublegends like they used to. They look a lot better with the PgUp, PgDn, etc. sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 04 February 2020, 14:57:11
Really like this. The only feedback I'd give is I'd love if the numpad kits would have the sublegends like they used to. They look a lot better with the PgUp, PgDn, etc. sublegends.
Would be +1 on this because it's consistent with how the sublegends add to the main cluster alphas, *unless* a single-legend alphas kit will exist.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:01:23
오오오오오오오 필승 코리아

Some changes I'd like to suggest / know if it's possible:

- Icon + Text mods
- R5 bottom row
- Inclusion of some blue?



Let me answer you first, since you asked for blue. This set was very much inspired by the team's current uniforms (red and black), which I feel is a more "modern" look. As such, my design decisions were guided by this "modern" aesthetic. If you look at the uniform in the photo above, you'll notice it doesn't have any extraneous details on it. There are no flourishes or extra style lines. It's just the essentials: team crest, number, kit manufacturer logo, and authenticity tag. Unfortunately because of this...

- There will be no Icon+Text mods
- R0/5 also feels more vintage than modern to me, so no to that as well
- Finally, there will be no blue, other than what's on the deskpad

kinda dank

edit: im afraid i will have to change my "pretty dank" to a "kinda dank" on account of the centered icon mods

Unfortunately, I feel quite strongly about using Janglad's new icon mods to go along with the whole "modern" look I mentioned in my reply to Lightning.

Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?

Good suggestion. It will be added.

Good set. Keep numpad in base.

Unfortunately, that probably won't happen.

This coloway is ideal for adding highlights to other sets with enter, esc, backspace and maybe control keys as well. You may want to consider to offer a set for that purpose.

Unfortunately, I think that will be too many kits.

Quick we need another GMK set, said no one ever.

Yes, I realize we are swimming in GMK sets right now. I did consider running this with a different manufacturer, but the depth of saturation of this color and the minimalism of Janglad's new icon mods, pushed my decision towards GMK.

RAMA keycap of the Taeguk circle please

The cap has already been designed. Unfortunately, it won't be the Taeguk. I actually inquired about doing the Taeguk, but it would require the red and blue halves be separated by 0.4mm, which is actually kind of a lot on a keycap.

+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

I would like the look of that. Unfortunately, I am not a great touch typer in English, so that's probably not going to happen. Sorry!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:01:49
Really like this. The only feedback I'd give is I'd love if the numpad kits would have the sublegends like they used to. They look a lot better with the PgUp, PgDn, etc. sublegends.
Would be +1 on this because it's consistent with how the sublegends add to the main cluster alphas, *unless* a single-legend alphas kit will exist.

I will consider this change.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: trg1234 on Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:06:18
For korean only, I would prefer it as an addition to the novelty kit in white and black. Maybe thats just me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: suhan on Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:14:31
That concept art so far for the deskmat looks pretty dope :o
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Aevyn on Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:20:48
Latin only alphas please

Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:23:02
Latin only alphas please

Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk

No.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: bliss on Tue, 04 February 2020, 16:04:03
Awesome stuff!
Could be my ENDGAME keycaps... I even switched my screen to color mode to view this.

edit
I noticed the banner you provide points to SAIL instead. I fixed mine, it should read:
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: mrkantz on Tue, 04 February 2020, 16:28:01
I think I need this for the red Tengu
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: SJHL on Tue, 04 February 2020, 16:29:15
Interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: steezkeez on Tue, 04 February 2020, 16:31:11
Though I tend to avoid 'weeb' legends, I've always considered Hangul more aesthetic than Hiragana/Katakana. This set looks pretty dank.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Ultimatum on Tue, 04 February 2020, 16:38:52
(http://pds1.egloos.com/pds/1/200606/07/44/a0001544_047296.gif)

(https://mblogthumb-phinf.pstatic.net/MjAxODA5MTlfMjky/MDAxNTM3MzYzMTAxNzky.ad0mqZCBbvIwF4T9VGfKw44s_8MKLkB516Umu7dmfXog.CNOyQffYQpfuOPN8tjSobO5zGDnKKbZu8A7-LPLYTq0g.JPEG.bigseo/%ED%83%9C%EA%B7%B9%EA%B8%B0-rec.jpg?type=w800)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/3nwDO4wxnDGz184pmFoUmszKnsRrPbf0rSpC_CBx_Hy71b6d_EoahkacUrKYgjRvPW7xCEX6593Ohw5c-77QgQ8GZbym6KzC4cXTYJWCvBo)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: blitz on Tue, 04 February 2020, 17:03:43
Korean flag desk mat would be hot
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 17:29:57
Korean flag desk mat would be hot

That's a little too nail-on-the-head. You could easily get that custom printed yourself, no?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: cptbubbles on Tue, 04 February 2020, 18:17:47
Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 18:58:30
Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: MrCoolPants on Tue, 04 February 2020, 19:31:10
looks ****ing dank. definitely in for a set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: SJHL on Tue, 04 February 2020, 19:55:03
Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 20:27:29
Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.

Why didn't I think of that...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: blitz on Tue, 04 February 2020, 20:43:30
Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.

Why didn't I think of that...
Devil novelty Keycap when

Thanks for all the hard work, btw! Endgame set for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 04 February 2020, 20:50:20
Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.

Why didn't I think of that...
Devil novelty Keycap when

Thanks for all the hard work, btw! Endgame set for sure.

Better as a sculpted artisan I think...like a dokkaebi.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Tue, 04 February 2020, 21:13:30
TAEGUKGI IS LIT
Lovin the Ba Gua application there!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 04 February 2020, 21:34:28
i like those novelties!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Sunhwan Jeong on Tue, 04 February 2020, 23:17:02
Nicely done mate, but the Title "Taeguk" is weird.
As you know, The pattern "Taeguk" often refers to "three-Taeguk" in the form of a mixture of blue, red, and yellow, or "Taeguk" in the form of a circle of red / blue. However, there are no elements representing these "Taeguk" in these set, and titles like "red devils" are more appropriate. :confused:

I'm looking forward to this set. thanks! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: chanchan on Wed, 05 February 2020, 01:01:46
Really love this- especially the Hangul sublegends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 05 February 2020, 01:28:46
Quote
A note about the red: It’s really more of a deep pink almost, a very pleasing hue if I do say so myself.

This is my only concern. The keys in the renders look RED. The pantone chip as you say looks a fair amount lighter. My preference is for what's in the renders, but that's just me. But love the idea behind the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Koatl on Wed, 05 February 2020, 08:59:24
TAEGUKGI IS LIT
Lovin the Ba Gua application there!

Yeah, badass. Wish we could get the 4 missing trigrams though. Any chance of that? So close to full bagua.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 February 2020, 09:08:32
TAEGUKGI IS LIT
Lovin the Ba Gua application there!

Yeah, badass. Wish we could get the 4 missing trigrams though. Any chance of that? So close to full bagua.

I will consider this addition but need to work out key placement and how many keys it will actually add to the kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 05 February 2020, 09:39:42
If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 February 2020, 09:53:40
Name has been updated.

If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).

It's the same color. It's just the lighting I took the picture in makes it look more pink. It's a hard color to capture, for sure. I added an image to the OP that shows how the color looks on Pantone's website.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 05 February 2020, 09:55:53
Red devils? That'd be confusing because the football equivalent of red devils is Manchester United
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:01:26
Red devils? That'd be confusing because the football equivalent of red devils is Manchester United

Well, fans expecting Man U can be pleasantly surprised then.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: neojonathan on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:03:05
붉은악마 YESSSSS
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:23:16
Name has been updated.

If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).

It's the same color. It's just the lighting I took the picture in makes it look more pink. It's a hard color to capture, for sure. I added a image to the OP that shows how the color looks on Pantone's website.

Sooo not quite red then? Here’s the thing: I still want it. And now I have to save up for both this and Classic Red please take your time good sir.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: adxlk on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:41:56
isnt red devils more manchester united?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:42:52
isnt red devils more manchester united?

Depends what part of the world you're from I guess.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Koatl on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:43:16
Bagua request...

I will consider this addition but need to work out key placement and how many keys it will actually add to the kit.

Thank you! I very much appreciate it. I'm getting this regardless, but if full bagua you can guarantee MOQ as I'll buy a bunch of kits myself.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:48:32
isnt red devils more manchester united?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Devils_(supporters_club)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: SJHL on Wed, 05 February 2020, 11:31:44
Name has been updated.

If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).

It's the same color. It's just the lighting I took the picture in makes it look more pink. It's a hard color to capture, for sure. I added an image to the OP that shows how the color looks on Pantone's website.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 February 2020, 11:32:52
Bagua request...

I will consider this addition but need to work out key placement and how many keys it will actually add to the kit.

Thank you! I very much appreciate it. I'm getting this regardless, but if full bagua you can guarantee MOQ as I'll buy a bunch of kits myself.

The problem with Bagua is that the meanings of the trigrams change from when there's only 4. On top of that, it also changes based on which version of the Bagua you choose, Earlier Heaven or Later Heaven. At that point, it's starting to get away from the point of the set in the first place.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: Koatl on Wed, 05 February 2020, 11:53:47
The problem with Bagua is that the meanings of the trigrams change from when there's only 4. On top of that, it also changes based on which version of the Bagua you choose, Earlier Heaven or Later Heaven. At that point, it's starting to get away from the point of the set in the first place.

For sure. I think Wen is more common but the math of Fu Xi makes a lot more sense.

Anyway I hear you. True true. Happy to have any trigrams on my board. ^__^ Thanks for putting this out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: awwshyuks on Wed, 05 February 2020, 13:24:04
Love this. Tiger logo RAMA?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 February 2020, 13:27:59
Love this. Tiger logo RAMA?

Already in the works.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 05 February 2020, 15:02:12
Not a soccer fan, but I am a fan of this set! Looks great, hopefully I can get in on it when it's in GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: hkiri on Wed, 05 February 2020, 15:36:29
cries in iso :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: FredBananaz on Wed, 05 February 2020, 17:24:56
Not to be a buzzkill, but I'm pretty sure the Red Devils is the name of the Belgian national soccer team. As a Belgian, I was surprised to see someone having an IC for our national team, until I was and recognized the first render.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (formerly Taeguk)
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 February 2020, 18:54:25
isnt red devils more manchester united?

Depends what part of the world you're from I guess.

Not to be a buzzkill, but I'm pretty sure the Red Devils is the name of the Belgian national soccer team. As a Belgian, I was surprised to see someone having an IC for our national team, until I was and recognized the first render.

Case in point.

It's a non-issue to me, really. There are more than a dozen professional teams with Red Devil as their nickname, as you can see from the below list from Wikipedia:

(https://i.imgur.com/jMIi0VL.png)

Who's to say one has more of a right to the name than the other?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: adxlk on Thu, 06 February 2020, 01:00:36
Fair play, good luck with IC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: hyppialonso on Thu, 06 February 2020, 06:16:51
Please consider adding a Referee Byron Moreno key to the Taegukgi
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 06 February 2020, 06:31:23
Please consider adding a Referee Byron Moreno key to the Taegukgi

lol why don't I just add a salty key in Italy colors? That way people asking for blue can be satisfied too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:17:54
Deskpad renders have been added to the OP.

Also want to take some time to give a quick summary of the changes/additions that are confirmed and that are under consideration:

Confirmed Changes/Additions:

- R4 한자 and 한/영 keys, just not sure which sizes they will be yet
- A couple of blue keys in the Taegukgi kit, since the flag does have blue on it (no, there won't be a salty key in Italy colors, that was a joke). And when I say a couple, I do mean only a couple. It definitely won't have full accent coverage like the 40s kit. So probably R1 Esc and R3 Enter for sure, maybe numpad Enter as well.

Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Navigational sublegends on the numpad keys
- F13 key in base kit
- Mono Hangul kit in red? TBH, I'm doubtful this kit can make MOQ. Plus, it would require new molds on GMK's part, which means higher prices across all kits.
- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out (https://forms.gle/D4nWcXzu6Mybyxst9)!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: cptbubbles on Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:41:09
(https://img1.daumcdn.net/thumb/R720x0.q80/?scode=mtistory2&fname=http%3A%2F%2Fcfile1.uf.tistory.com%2Fimage%2F146D12334E6B0914348ECF)

Great to see improvements being made to this kit!
Any chance the Red Devils logo can be incorporated onto the desk pad?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:47:42
Show Image
(https://img1.daumcdn.net/thumb/R720x0.q80/?scode=mtistory2&fname=http%3A%2F%2Fcfile1.uf.tistory.com%2Fimage%2F146D12334E6B0914348ECF)


Great to see improvements being made to this kit!
Any chance the Red Devils logo can be incorporated onto the desk pad?

Would that be a copyright issue? I was instead hoping that someone could create an artisan sculpt of something similar, but I'm not too familiar with the various artisan makers out there. If someone could help point me in the right direction that would be helpful.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: isaackang7 on Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:50:43
Add a taeguek symbol and devil symbol key and it seems good!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:53:34
Add a taeguek symbol and devil symbol key and it seems good!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Taeguk is not possible without tripleshot capabilities. It would have to be an artisan, perhaps of a Korean drum. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: manaorme on Thu, 06 February 2020, 11:40:06
I still remember 2002 in Korea.
Everyone was in red t-shirt.
I'll gonna wait for this gb, lots of interest!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: SJHL on Thu, 06 February 2020, 19:05:23
Deskpad renders have been added to the OP.

Also want to take some time to give a quick summary of the changes/additions that are confirmed and that are under consideration:

Confirmed Changes/Additions:

- R4 한자 and 한/영 keys, just not sure which sizes they will be yet
- A couple of blue keys in the Taegukgi kit, since the flag does have blue on it (no, there won't be a salty key in Italy colors, that was a joke). And when I say a couple, I do mean only a couple. It definitely won't have full accent coverage like the 40s kit. So probably R1 Esc and R3 Enter for sure, maybe numpad Enter as well.

Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Navigational sublegends on the numpad keys
- F13 key in base kit
- Mono Hangul kit in red? TBH, I'm doubtful this kit can make MOQ. Plus, it would require new molds on GMK's part, which means higher prices across all kits.
- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out (https://forms.gle/D4nWcXzu6Mybyxst9)!

Would 대한민국 have the same font style as 화이팅?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 06 February 2020, 19:15:41
Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out (https://forms.gle/D4nWcXzu6Mybyxst9)!

Would 대한민국 have the same font style as 화이팅?

Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 07 February 2020, 09:23:15
Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out (https://forms.gle/D4nWcXzu6Mybyxst9)!

Would 대한민국 have the same font style as 화이팅?

Yes.

This is what it would look like:

(https://i.imgur.com/GFTCTsG.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: sanryu on Sat, 08 February 2020, 03:43:28
2002 T-shirt
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: Heiser on Fri, 14 February 2020, 13:31:09
Definitely UP for this! love the concept >:D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: yhehdgjs on Sun, 16 February 2020, 07:17:21
Show Image
(https://img1.daumcdn.net/thumb/R720x0.q80/?scode=mtistory2&fname=http%3A%2F%2Fcfile1.uf.tistory.com%2Fimage%2F146D12334E6B0914348ECF)


Great to see improvements being made to this kit!
Any chance the Red Devils logo can be incorporated onto the desk pad?

Yeah, wanna see this symbols in Novelty kit if there is no issue with copyrights.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: rmendis on Mon, 17 February 2020, 00:04:39
Nice set. Would join
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: amuri99 on Sun, 23 February 2020, 20:30:48
pretty set! need join,.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: tofulo on Tue, 25 February 2020, 13:55:04
been looking for an awesome hangul set like this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Taeguk
Post by: D3LTA on Thu, 27 February 2020, 09:49:21
+1 also mebbe korean only legends?
I would like the look of that. Unfortunately, I am not a great touch typer in English, so that's probably not going to happen. Sorry!

have you considered a standalone alphas kit with korean only legends. For those touch typers out there, I can see this being a very nice option.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: Heiser on Sun, 29 March 2020, 04:40:26
Ahhhhhhhh!!! I can't wait for this!!!! <3 <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 30 March 2020, 07:27:30
Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 30 March 2020, 15:17:50
Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 30 March 2020, 15:58:20
Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Anyone who knows anything about football
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.)
Check out their nickname n red devil in emblem, this is good set, dont think that I am trolling, just that when I saw Red Devil, first thing that came to mind was Man Utd FC.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 30 March 2020, 16:07:13
Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Anyone who knows anything about football
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.)
Check out their nickname n red devil in emblem, this is good set, dont think that I am trolling, just that when I saw Red Devil, first thing that came to mind was Man Utd FC.

Sorry, I am unconvinced. This topic has already been addressed earlier in this thread.

The only thing I will add to it is that if anyone has the rights to the name (if that's even a thing) is the Belgian national team, which has gone by that nickname since 1905, long before Man U was given the name in 1934.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Visionaire on Mon, 30 March 2020, 16:26:42
Ultimate challenge: fill your board with half of this set and half of Striker. Follow an actual match between the two teams and adjust the colors to reflect who is winning at the time. At the end of the match, the winner fills all slots.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Sunhwan Jeong on Mon, 30 March 2020, 18:51:24
If you refer to 'Pulse' or 'BLINK', I think it is cleaner to subtract the engraved consonants such as ㅃㅉㄸㄲ ㅆ. This neatness is a favorite among Koreans.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 30 March 2020, 19:22:29
+1 also mebbe korean only legends?
I would like the look of that. Unfortunately, I am not a great touch typer in English, so that's probably not going to happen. Sorry!

have you considered a standalone alphas kit with korean only legends. For those touch typers out there, I can see this being a very nice option.

Yes, this is under consideration.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Acabi on Sun, 26 April 2020, 01:29:15
Looks amazing looking forward to a nice bright red set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: mrkantz on Mon, 27 April 2020, 10:21:55
Really looking forward to this set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Jaltr on Mon, 27 April 2020, 11:12:50
I need this!
Not into novelties for any set, but this is a must for sure:) A lot of Korea inspired sets coming out and I'm all for them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: synthtastic on Wed, 29 April 2020, 13:58:11
Really looking forward to this. Love the vibrant red!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: YangYoga on Thu, 30 April 2020, 05:12:45
For the novelties it would be super amazing if you added the missing parts from the Ba Gua of Daoism   

(https://cf.ltkcdn.net/feng-shui/images/std/240872-450x450-early-heaven-sequence-bagua.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: SMOKEY on Tue, 19 May 2020, 01:05:08
I've been following this for a while now.
I'm in for a base and novelties.
This kit is wonderful to pair with BoW and WoB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: 2003987 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 01:36:38
Well if anyone still remember this......


nice colorway though, but im not buying coz above.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: Fredington on Sat, 23 May 2020, 16:12:14
Hi all,

Finally back with some updates. Massive thanks to Janglad for banging these out. OP has been updated with the below.

This set will be run in September with the following vendors:

NA: TXKeyboards
Canada: DeskHero
EU: MyKeyboards
Asia: iLumkb
Oceania: DailyClack

Changelog [also posted in the 2nd post (reserved) on the 1st page under the OP]:

- Added blue accents to all kits (GMK V4)
- In a nod to the Korean Kustoms that helped popularize them, F13 and Alice support have been added to the Base kit
- Added 한자 and 한/영 keys in 1u, 1.25u and 1.5u to the Base kit
- Added R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the Base kit
- Mac bottom row swaps and off-center 6u spacebar have been removed from the Base kit in order to accommodate the above changes
- Added a Hangul kit with 2nd tab (moved from Base kit)
- Added rudimentary ISO support to the Numpad kit
- Streamlined the Forties kit in a manner similar to GMK Cafe and GMK Apollo
- Changed 화이팅! to 대한민국 (this was much more popular in the poll)
- Added new render on an HBCP
- Added new render on a Planck Hi-Pro
- Added GB date and vendor list
- Updated IC form link with new form. Please fill it out! Link here (https://forms.gle/uyshTrJVaKgRxua38) for convenience.

**Additional note for the person who asked: I considered removing the tertiary legends for a cleaner look (a la GMK Pulse) but decided against it. Sorry.

And without further ado, updated kits:

(https://i.imgur.com/bGiSZST.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jHxIxz5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ExDFqIh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AHhX922.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/56AF9hR.jpg)

And updated renders:

(https://i.imgur.com/BaMXkab.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IjJtbNE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/D5fvbtv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/C9GudBz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NrYRPeK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DTrtnWE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RMTEE6u.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mMdcMxM.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: Blvck.- on Sun, 24 May 2020, 08:42:15
Every time I see this kit I get more excited for it, Thanks for the update everything looks amazing keep up the good work.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 24 May 2020, 15:14:53
A small correction to the Forties kit has been posted in the OP. Previously, it was missing a R3 1.5u Function key:

(https://i.imgur.com/L7rkhVD.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils (Deskpad Renders, Changes Under Consideration, Survey)
Post by: 2003987 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 19:41:23
I still remember 2002 in Korea.
Everyone was in red t-shirt.
I'll gonna wait for this gb, lots of interest!

Lol 2002 fight club, what a great team.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: 2003987 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 19:43:32
Please consider adding a Referee Byron Moreno key to the Taegukgi

Novelties should include Bryon Moreno and Korean Won. Red Devils in terms of breaking legs lol.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: frasnow on Sun, 24 May 2020, 21:00:28
Ignore the troll. Should take his disappointment elsewhere. Such an incredible set for a great team.

Any chance we could get row numbers for the novelties? Image makes it look like all rows are covered, but render on arrows indicates four row 4 keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 24 May 2020, 21:50:31
Ignore the troll. Should take his disappointment elsewhere. Such an incredible set for a great team.

Any chance we could get row numbers for the novelties? Image makes it look like all rows are covered, but render on arrows indicates four row 4 keys.

It's 1-2-3-4 in the novelty kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: Pluto19 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 22:24:33
Any chance of making one of each size 'Alt' an 'Alt Gr' instead of having all of them just 'Alt'?
Also ~ any chance of having a full WKL bottom row mods with Hangul only? (ie adding one more pair of 1.5u Hangul mods)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:38:46
For the novelties it would be super amazing if you added the missing parts from the Ba Gua of Daoism   

Show Image
(https://cf.ltkcdn.net/feng-shui/images/std/240872-450x450-early-heaven-sequence-bagua.jpg)


This has already been discussed in this thread. The answer is no as per below quote:

The problem with Bagua is that the meanings of the trigrams change from when there's only 4. On top of that, it also changes based on which version of the Bagua you choose, Earlier Heaven or Later Heaven. At that point, it's starting to get away from the point of the set in the first place.

Well if anyone still remember this......


nice colorway though, but im not buying coz above.

Perhaps I will add a salty key in blue for Italy.

Any chance of making one of each size 'Alt' an 'Alt Gr' instead of having all of them just 'Alt'?
Also ~ any chance of having a full WKL bottom row mods with Hangul only? (ie adding one more pair of 1.5u Hangul mods)

No.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: Pluto19 on Tue, 26 May 2020, 14:32:00
Any chance of making one of each size 'Alt' an 'Alt Gr' instead of having all of them just 'Alt'?
Also ~ any chance of having a full WKL bottom row mods with Hangul only? (ie adding one more pair of 1.5u Hangul mods)

No.
Lame.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 27 May 2020, 11:52:34
After some thought, I realized there's a more elegant way to accomplish the 한자 and 한/영 keys than giving them dedicated keys and that's to deploy them as sublegends on ALT, especially since most of our keyboards don't have 4 keys on either side of the spacebar like actual Korean keyboards do. This will eliminate the need to choose which key to leave out as well as allowing the Mac bottom row swaps to be brought back into the kit while making the kit a bit trimmer overall.

I've updated the base kit render below. Keyboard render updates will come later.

(https://i.imgur.com/9ycV5oe.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: tofulo on Wed, 27 May 2020, 12:34:42
I am loving these blue accents!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: PoohGom on Thu, 28 May 2020, 01:05:07
After some thought, I realized there's a more elegant way to accomplish the 한자 and 한/영 keys than giving them dedicated keys and that's to deploy them as sublegends on ALT, especially since most of our keyboards don't have 4 keys on either side of the spacebar like actual Korean keyboards do. This will eliminate the need to choose which key to leave out as well as allowing the Mac bottom row swaps to be brought back into the kit while making the kit a bit trimmer overall.

I've updated the base kit render below. Keyboard render updates will come later.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9ycV5oe.jpg)


I honestly liked the old version better when it was just the 한자 and 한/영, to me the new version seems a bit to cluttered. Maybe just the 한자 and 한/영 keys can be in the Korean only alphas kit? I still like the set regardless.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Updated Kits/Renders, Date, & Vendors!
Post by: dbjowett on Thu, 28 May 2020, 02:57:44
After some thought, I realized there's a more elegant way to accomplish the 한자 and 한/영 keys than giving them dedicated keys and that's to deploy them as sublegends on ALT, especially since most of our keyboards don't have 4 keys on either side of the spacebar like actual Korean keyboards do. This will eliminate the need to choose which key to leave out as well as allowing the Mac bottom row swaps to be brought back into the kit while making the kit a bit trimmer overall.

I've updated the base kit render below. Keyboard render updates will come later.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9ycV5oe.jpg)


I honestly liked the old version better when it was just the 한자 and 한/영, to me the new version seems a bit to cluttered. Maybe just the 한자 and 한/영 keys can be in the Korean only alphas kit? I still like the set regardless.


I 100% agree with this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: cptbubbles on Thu, 28 May 2020, 07:29:13
Love how this set is developing over the course of the IC.

I would like to add to the comments regarding 한/영 and 한자 keys though.

In most Korean keyboard layouts 한/영 and 한자 replace right alt and right ctrl rather than be placed on the opposite sides of each other.
I'm sure a layout like the current state of the kit does exist but I've yet to see one in person.

Attaching image of how Leopold does it:

(https://img.danawa.com/prod_img/500000/691/084/img/6084691_1.jpg?shrink=500:500&_v=20190828160118)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 28 May 2020, 08:23:36
Love how this set is developing over the course of the IC.

I would like to add to the comments regarding 한/영 and 한자 keys though.

In most Korean keyboard layouts 한/영 and 한자 replace right alt and right ctrl rather than be placed on the opposite sides of each other.
I'm sure a layout like the current state of the kit does exist but I've yet to see one in person.

Attaching image of how Leopold does it:

Show Image
(https://img.danawa.com/prod_img/500000/691/084/img/6084691_1.jpg?shrink=500:500&_v=20190828160118)


Thanks for the image! I've actually been looking at more mainstream membranes from Samsung and QSENN and older keyboards like this guy:

(https://i.imgur.com/4TKYzpu.jpg)

This is the most common layout that I've seen, but perhaps the Leopold is a more modern way of doing it. I think I prefer the more symmetrical version like I have it now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: mr_fro2000 on Thu, 28 May 2020, 09:02:15
Yah, I also like the current implementation much better!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:01:30
I like the set, but the name reminds me more of Manchester United than the Korean team
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: SMOKEY on Thu, 28 May 2020, 13:59:59
I like the set, but the name reminds me more of Manchester United than the Korean team

Awww sh** here we go again :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Thu, 28 May 2020, 21:49:49
This is the most common layout that I've seen, but perhaps the Leopold is a more modern way of doing it. I think I prefer the more symmetrical version like I have it now.
It's about functionality, though. When you type in Korean, what do you use to switch to Hangul? What do you use to switch to Hanja?
The typical Windows commands are Shift+Left Alt to switch keyboard language, Right Alt to switch from Romanized letters to Hangul, and Right Control to switch to Hanja.

Please reconsider putting the 한자 sublegend on Control.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 29 May 2020, 11:39:51
This is the most common layout that I've seen, but perhaps the Leopold is a more modern way of doing it. I think I prefer the more symmetrical version like I have it now.
It's about functionality, though. When you type in Korean, what do you use to switch to Hangul? What do you use to switch to Hanja?
The typical Windows commands are Shift+Left Alt to switch keyboard language, Right Alt to switch from Romanized letters to Hangul, and Right Control to switch to Hanja.

Please reconsider putting the 한자 sublegend on Control.

Ah, see I didn't know about those shortcuts, partly because I'm on OS X and use the menu bar to switch inputs like a boomer. CTRL it is:

(https://i.imgur.com/p2xL20e.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Fri, 29 May 2020, 12:03:33
Ah, see I didn't know about those shortcuts, partly because I'm on OS X and use the menu bar to switch inputs like a boomer. CTRL it is:


Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 29 May 2020, 12:25:04
Actually, something else occurred to me after moving 한자 to CTRL...if you're using the mono Hangul kit, is the assumption that you're typing mostly in Korean and therefore have little use for 한/영? If so, would you guys prefer a set of clean ALTs in the Hangul kit like below?

(https://i.imgur.com/hOvESav.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Update regarding the 한자 and 한/영 keys
Post by: PoohGom on Fri, 29 May 2020, 15:21:30
Actually, something else occurred to me after moving 한자 to CTRL...if you're using the mono Hangul kit, is the assumption that you're typing mostly in Korean and therefore have little use for 한/영? If so, would you guys prefer a set of clean ALTs in the Hangul kit like below?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hOvESav.jpg)


I'd much rather have the Hangul kit be a full alpha's kit with numbers and other punctuation keys so that I can use it with another set of mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Query about 한/영 and Hangul kit
Post by: Blvck.- on Fri, 05 June 2020, 19:18:30
Any eta on GB yet?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Query about 한/영 and Hangul kit
Post by: chowbabyloving on Fri, 05 June 2020, 19:34:58
Any eta on GB yet?

I think the ETA is still September 2020?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Query about 한/영 and Hangul kit
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:05:16
I always recommend including basic 4-key ISO support in the base kit. But even you decide to keep the ISO keys in a child kit, please consider using the more appropriate R3 \|₩, R4 <> combination instead of R3 #~, R4 \|₩. For an example, take a look at GMK Blink (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106716.0), another recent set that uses Hangul sublegends. Take a look at these (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90706.msg2894820#msg2894820) posts (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106305.msg2908129#msg2908129) for an explanation on why I consider these keys to be more useful/appropriate, as well as some relevant usage data. I believe this is pertinent for a set like this, since Korean keyboards always have the \|₩ key adjacent to Enter.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Query about 한/영 and Hangul kit
Post by: Fredington on Sat, 06 June 2020, 15:44:38
Actually, something else occurred to me after moving 한자 to CTRL...if you're using the mono Hangul kit, is the assumption that you're typing mostly in Korean and therefore have little use for 한/영? If so, would you guys prefer a set of clean ALTs in the Hangul kit like below?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hOvESav.jpg)


I'd much rather have the Hangul kit be a full alpha's kit with numbers and other punctuation keys so that I can use it with another set of mods.

That won't happen, sorry.

I always recommend including basic 4-key ISO support in the base kit. But even you decide to keep the ISO keys in a child kit, please consider using the more appropriate R3 \|₩, R4 <> combination instead of R3 #~, R4 \|₩. For an example, take a look at GMK Blink (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106716.0), another recent set that uses Hangul sublegends. Take a look at these (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90706.msg2894820#msg2894820) posts (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106305.msg2908129#msg2908129) for an explanation on why I consider these keys to be more useful/appropriate, as well as some relevant usage data. I believe this is pertinent for a set like this, since Korean keyboards always have the \|₩ key adjacent to Enter.

Yes, it's my intention to change the ISO keys to terminal style as you've described.

In other news, the RAMA cap will be unveiled soon. A Salvun cap is in the works, as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - GB in September
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 07 June 2020, 06:24:32
As promised, here is the RAMA cap:

(https://i.imgur.com/n8xcN12.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TyNrRJs.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - GB in September - RAMA Cap Added
Post by: tofulo on Mon, 08 June 2020, 12:07:09
Damn that rama cap looks amazing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 25 June 2020, 11:18:51
Hi all,

I have some good news and some bad news, so first, the good news:

Below is an illustration of the Salvun cap while we wait for him to make samples. It will be copper with black cerakote:

(https://i.imgur.com/8Sv3YtC.png)

Now for the bad news:

We got first round pricing back from GMK and it came in a bit higher than expected. The Numpad+ISO kit was the worst offender and the vendors and I highly doubt it will make MOQ in its current form. In order to achieve the best balance of price and compatibility, we're proposing to make the following changes:

- Integrate numpad and ISO into the Base kit
- Change ISO legends to terminal-style (# of keys remains the same)
- Drop Mac bottom row swaps
- Move Alice support and 6u spacebars into a separate Spacebars kit
- Drop the 40s kit (unfortunately, interest for this was pretty low, especially since Alice support was originally provided in the Base kit and now will be present in the Spacebars kit)
- Taegukgi kit remains unchanged

Please use this new form (https://forms.gle/J83VM3dTBwRKFeq69) to provide feedback!

Below is how the new kits will look:

(https://i.imgur.com/0re5IM0.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Mzric9W.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/07SBpHx.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/XkMNeqE.png)

My sincerest apologies to those looking forward to the previous kits. I was really excited about them myself, but like I said I think this new structure will service the greatest number of people for the best overall price.

If you made it this far, thank you for sticking with us!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 25 June 2020, 18:52:07
New kits look great. Terminal gang! Consider including 1.25c space (and maybe 1c too) in the spacebars kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 25 June 2020, 20:24:38
...and including 1.25c space (and maybe 1c too) in the spacebars kit.

Are those useful outside a 40s kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 25 June 2020, 21:28:24
Are those useful outside a 40s kit?

Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 25 June 2020, 22:55:10
...and including 1.25c space (and maybe 1c too) in the spacebars kit.

Are those useful outside a 40s kit?

Keebio's Sinc and Quefrency both can use a 1.25u space too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: itsslim on Sat, 27 June 2020, 23:11:27
September can’t come soon enough
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: frankfrankfrank on Thu, 02 July 2020, 18:22:05
Really stoked for this, thanks for the update
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: SMOKEY on Fri, 03 July 2020, 13:01:42
Can't wait to buy! my wallet is ready!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Deskmat Poll
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 15 July 2020, 13:34:21
Hi all,

Due to the likelihood of a white deskmat getting dirty very easily, I've decided to change the colors around a bit and want to put the below two colorways to a vote:

Red

(https://i.imgur.com/awoajv7.png)

Black

(https://i.imgur.com/3Jl4yHT.png)

Please vote here (https://forms.gle/uydDNoi4aWJXZnr79).

In other news, we are finalizing the kits, getting updated renders, and an additional RAMA cap will soon be revealed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Deskmat Poll
Post by: itsbeard on Wed, 15 July 2020, 14:35:01
Both look great! I'm happy with either winning, good call on pulling white.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Wed, 15 July 2020, 23:23:01
Are those useful outside a 40s kit?

Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).


Alice layout left space is 2u or 2.25u. The only R4 1.75u key on the layout is split right shift.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 16 July 2020, 19:42:51
Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).


Alice layout left space is 2u or 2.25u. The only R4 1.75u key on the layout is split right shift.

Correct, that's in line with what I said. I did not mention any R4 1.75u keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Salvun Cap & Kit Changes Due to Pricing
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:26:59
Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).


Alice layout left space is 2u or 2.25u. The only R4 1.75u key on the layout is split right shift.

Correct, that's in line with what I said. I did not mention any R4 1.75u keys.

ah! my bad. You meant for the 1.25u key to the right of the 2.25u spacebar key?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Deskmat Poll
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:39:20
ah! my bad. You meant for the 1.25u key to the right of the 2.25u spacebar key?

I was saying that 1.25u and 1u convex keys would be nice to have as they would allow Alice users to cover both of the possible left spacebar layouts with all convex keys (2.25c + 1c or 2c + 1.25c) :) In addition to this, 1.25c is useful for other stuff as well, as previously mentioned.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:32:56
Hi all,

Thank you for your patience. Kits have been finalized and we are awaiting quotes from GMK, as well as updated keyboard renders.

Kits

Changelog:
- Changed R3 1.75u Control text to icon for more consistent look with lefthand mods
- Changed F-row Lock to Scroll
- Removed 00 key since standalone numpads are pretty rare overall
- Removed 2nd Tab and extra ALT keys from Hangul kit to keep cost down
- Hangul kit legend size/weight have been revised to be more in line with cherry standards
- Added 1u and 1.25u blanks to Spacebars kit, as well as a 2nd mono ㅠ key


(https://i.imgur.com/s2stEep.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/vUexwJK.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/kEuov5n.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ejwowXZ.png)


Deskmat

The deskmat poll was overwhelmingly in favor of the black background (4:1), so that's what we'll be moving forward with. However, I found myself missing the white, so I've added the trigrams which I think gives it that much needed finishing touch.

(https://i.imgur.com/xdemNii.png)


Salvun Artisan

I realized that a copper artisan might get a bit lost with an all red set, so I've changed the base metal to aluminum for maximum visibility. The black will be anodized. Thanks to konstantin for pointing this out. Again, below is a placeholder image which will be replaced once Salvun provides a photograph of the actual sample!

(https://i.imgur.com/eezD2bP.png)


Additional RAMA Artisan & Poll - Taeguk

And for the final piece of news, I submitted two designs for a 2nd RAMA artisan and I'm having trouble deciding between the two, so I'm running another poll. Please go here (https://forms.gle/24VhgWPAfSrqFiHi8) to vote for your preference between the two options below:

(https://i.imgur.com/q19xm7Q.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: Blvck.- on Thu, 23 July 2020, 16:48:55
Everything looks amazing, this is the only gmk set I'm waiting on keep up the good work.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:12:39
Great update :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: mosekiah on Thu, 23 July 2020, 19:18:37
Thank you for the update. I'm stoked and can't wait for September!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: manaorme on Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:28:20
Option2 reminds me pepsi logo
I think no separation or minimizing it will be better
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:39:28
Option2 reminds me pepsi logo
I think no separation or minimizing it will be better

The poll seems to be going in that direction as of now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: Minam on Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:44:15
Everything looks great! I still remember the 2002 world cup when I was 5!

Is it possible to have a deskmat where the background is white instead of black and the black lines on the flag can be done in black? I think that would look great and look like the flag.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: manaorme on Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:51:39
Hi all,

Thank you for your patience. Kits have been finalized and we are awaiting quotes from GMK, as well as updated keyboard renders.

Kits

Changelog:
- Changed R3 1.75u Control text to icon for more consistent look with lefthand mods
- Changed F-row Lock to Scroll
- Removed 00 key since standalone numpads are pretty rare overall
- Removed 2nd Tab and extra ALT keys from Hangul kit to keep cost down
- Hangul kit legend size/weight have been revised to be more in line with cherry standards
- Added 1u and 1.25u blanks to Spacebars kit, as well as a 2nd mono ㅠ key


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s2stEep.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vUexwJK.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/kEuov5n.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ejwowXZ.png)



Deskmat

The deskmat poll was overwhelmingly in favor of the black background (4:1), so that's what we'll be moving forward with. However, I found myself missing the white, so I've added the trigrams which I think gives it that much needed finishing touch.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xdemNii.png)



Salvun Artisan

I realized that a copper artisan might get a bit lost with an all red set, so I've changed the base metal to aluminum for maximum visibility. The black will be anodized. Thanks to konstantin for pointing this out. Again, below is a placeholder image which will be replaced once Salvun provides a photograph of the actual sample!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eezD2bP.png)



Additional RAMA Artisan & Poll - Taeguk

And for the final piece of news, I submitted two designs for a 2nd RAMA artisan and I'm having trouble deciding between the two, so I'm running another poll. Please go here (https://forms.gle/24VhgWPAfSrqFiHi8) to vote for your preference between the two options below:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/q19xm7Q.jpg)



Oh, I liked the copper one, but never mind. Alu will be less expensive, isn't it?

I am not sure how Salvun artisan will look like in real, but is it similar to rama artisan? I mean will dokkaebi in flat design or 'cut in groove'(=sculpted?). I want to fill dokkaebi with white enamel paint.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 23 July 2020, 22:06:45
Everything looks great! I still remember the 2002 world cup when I was 5!

Is it possible to have a deskmat where the background is white instead of black and the black lines on the flag can be done in black! I think that would look great and look like the flag!

A white deskmat would get dirty very easily.

Salvun Artisan

I realized that a copper artisan might get a bit lost with an all red set, so I've changed the base metal to aluminum for maximum visibility. The black will be anodized. Thanks to konstantin for pointing this out. Again, below is a placeholder image which will be replaced once Salvun provides a photograph of the actual sample!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eezD2bP.png)



Oh, I liked the copper one, but never mind. Alu will be less expensive, isn't it?

I am not sure how Salvun artisan will look like in real, but is it similar to rama artisan? I mean will dokkaebi in flat design or 'cut in groove'(=sculpted?). I want to fill dokkaebi with white enamel paint.

It will be relatively flat.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: tofulo on Tue, 28 July 2020, 17:13:04
Really hope wish September got here sooner. I am trying to be patient and limit the GBs I join, but it gets harder every day.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Kits & RAMA Poll
Post by: solomonshv on Thu, 30 July 2020, 05:02:08
we're getting pepsi artisans? sweet!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - RAMA Poll Result & NEW Mod Style Poll
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 31 July 2020, 15:06:11
Hi all,

First up in updates today, Option 1 has won out over Option 2 by a factor of 3-2, so we will proceed with Option 1:

(https://i.imgur.com/SjVByTd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Uo2rw7a.jpg)

Second and more importantly, I'm considering changing the style of the mods to traditional icon+text!

Now, I know this is a pretty major change so late into the IC, but my original idea for the set was a modern interpretation of the team uniform using the black instead of the blue, so the more "modern" icons made sense. Now that the blue has been added, the original idea has been a bit muddled, and so I've become open to the idea of traditional icon+text, which a number of you have requested.

I didn't intend to run this many polls in one IC, but you guys have consistently surprised me with a high response rate, for which I am grateful. So here's one last poll (https://forms.gle/r4chH49ponihjafZ6) to decide the style of mods. Hopefully, we can make the set the best it can be for the most amount of people!

Poll has also been added to the OP.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - RAMA Poll Result & NEW Mod Style Poll (Page 4)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 04 August 2020, 04:14:47
Traditional icon plus text is the way.
(pls)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - RAMA Poll Result & NEW Mod Style Poll (Page 4)
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 04 August 2020, 10:30:21
Do you have the whole GMK Color Ring? Could you take some pictures with RO2, V1 and P3 next to your pantone swatch?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - RAMA Poll Result & NEW Mod Style Poll (Page 4)
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 05 August 2020, 14:29:32
Do you have the whole GMK Color Ring? Could you take some pictures with RO2, V1 and P3 next to your pantone swatch?

Indirect sunlight through window:

(https://i.imgur.com/AJxO3MV.jpg)

P3 is darker and V1 is more orange. RO2 is pretty close but still a bit more red than the Pantone, which skews pink.

In other news, the results of the poll confirm that the mods will stay as is (center aligned), with over 65% of the votes. Thank you to everyone who voted.

In terms of GB preparations, I am currently waiting on GMK to provide me with the Hangul SVG file so I can make adjustments for the new mono legends. Once finished, I'll provide the template to Janglad and we can hopefully get some updated renders.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 05 August 2020, 17:22:08
great pic, thank you
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils
Post by: ownnij on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:13:01
hurry up, i need these!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: Fredington on Sat, 22 August 2020, 11:32:15
Hi all,

Big update today, so let's get into it...

The GB will run from September 2-30! Pricing table is below and will be updated as they get finalized during the next week:

(https://i.imgur.com/oAeuAG0.png)

NOTE ABOUT PRICING: I know many of you were disappointed that the Numpad+ISO kit was added to the Base kit, but as a standalone kit, it would have cost a prohibitive $55, whereas adding it to the base kit resulted in only a $10 increase.

Finally, we have updated renders:

Kits

(https://i.imgur.com/ZyyOr1U.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1XVKm1z.jpg)

NOTE ABOUT HANGUL KIT: The primary legends (top left corner) have been slightly enlarged and bolded (compared to how they are as sublegends) to be more in line with cherry conventions. They will not however, be as bold as the standard Latin legends, as it would not look appropriate for Hangul.

(https://i.imgur.com/iLlvfhl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mO8Bjds.jpg)

Deskmat

(https://i.imgur.com/xdemNii.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/OftRr7X.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sqU8nuT.jpg)

Boards

(https://i.imgur.com/iqdZiC7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/358sBSw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wukiwqo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4oyHb1f.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8cn6H7W.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ty1Jdr7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pU3TkSr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SIIVqrS.jpg)

As always, OP has been updated with the above.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 22 August 2020, 12:15:10
Based kitting
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: yookwh on Sat, 22 August 2020, 17:14:16
Love this, will definitely get in on it. Would you consider doing it a set in the future with dark blue/white?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: Blvck.- on Sat, 22 August 2020, 19:35:01
Is there any ETA on when the kit ships?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 23 August 2020, 13:19:58
Is there any ETA on when the kit ships?

Best estimate right now is May 2021.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: archerypro459 on Sun, 23 August 2020, 23:29:02
Latin alphas please I will pay 1 billion
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: tofulo on Mon, 24 August 2020, 10:09:28
Damn, the base is expensive af, but fukit I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 24 August 2020, 12:38:51
Damn, the base is expensive af, but fukit I'm in!

Are you sure you're looking at the price and not the MOQ?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: mrkantz on Mon, 24 August 2020, 15:29:57
Stoked for this, kits and price look great to me!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Final Renders, NA Pricing, Exact Dates
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 25 August 2020, 08:38:30
Added NA pricing for artisans and deskmat to OP.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Starts TOMORROW, 9/2!
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 01 September 2020, 08:47:58
Hi all,

Just a friendly reminder that the GB will start tomorrow, 9/2!

Below is the current pricing table. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on a few prices to be submitted, but I will update those as soon as I am able:

(https://i.imgur.com/tpQzqLu.png)

Salvun is also working on the samples as I'm writing this, so those photos should be available soon, as well.

Once all prices, sample photos, and product page links have been confirmed, the GB thread will be submitted.

Again, the estimated ship date is May 2021.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Starts TOMORROW, 9/2!
Post by: nsyinc on Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:50:45
pricing image needs fixing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Red Devils - Starts TOMORROW, 9/2!
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 01 September 2020, 12:43:40
pricing image needs fixing.

Fixed and added more prices. GB thread is actually live now (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108422.0) so I'll be locking this soon.