[GB] GMK Vaporwave (July 1-August 2, 2019)

[antx1701]

Beautiful.

[sirieous]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611888839425916938/679909258514792487/image1.jpg

This pic is so juice.

[TieuNgu]

woah... alice with dolphin body. What board is that?

[KuroTheCrazy]

Looks really nice. Kind of bummed we have to wait for RAMA caps for non-RAMA orders to ship from NK.

[forevermadrigal]

So pretty 🥺 can’t wait to get my set

[slyr586]

RIP me for missing this GB. This set is so fantastic omg.

[biothermal]

woah... alice with dolphin body. What board is that?

IIRC, it's a one-off design a guy prototyped for himself, mixture of an EM7 curve/ergo design with the arrow-less alice layout.

[dibkib]

For those who don’t mind being spoiled, here’s a couple of pics I took earlier today after receiving my keyset! It looks exactly like the renders, the pink is beautifully neon and bright, just as you might expect.

I’ll post some more once I get back home if anyone wants them.

https://ibb.co/TKWktwq
https://ibb.co/prVkG9T

[OracleKev]

We just received our GMK keycaps. We still need to wait on the RAMA keycaps (expected to arrive within 2 weeks). Once the RAMA caps arrive, everything will start shipping.

Can you explain why non-RAMA orders need to wait for RAMA caps?

Just curious

[AgonizedFish]

For those who don’t mind being spoiled, here’s a couple of pics I took earlier today after receiving my keyset! It looks exactly like the renders, the pink is beautifully neon and bright, just as you might expect.

I’ll post some more once I get back home if anyone wants them.

https://ibb.co/TKWktwq
https://ibb.co/prVkG9T

Oh man that’s so sexy... please do post more haha, I have to get my fill while we wait for orders! Kinda bummed that we all have to wait even if we didn’t get Rama caps

[mgsickler]

We just received our GMK keycaps. We still need to wait on the RAMA keycaps (expected to arrive within 2 weeks). Once the RAMA caps arrive, everything will start shipping.

Can you explain why non-RAMA orders need to wait for RAMA caps?

Just curious

Processing of the orders. These are all from the same product page, so they will all need to be processed at the same time.

[dibkib]

For those who don’t mind being spoiled, here’s a couple of pics I took earlier today after receiving my keyset! It looks exactly like the renders, the pink is beautifully neon and bright, just as you might expect.

I’ll post some more once I get back home if anyone wants them.

https://ibb.co/TKWktwq
https://ibb.co/prVkG9T

Oh man that’s so sexy... please do post more haha, I have to get my fill while we wait for orders! Kinda bummed that we all have to wait even if we didn’t get Rama caps

Here you go!

https://ibb.co/DpRVKmC
https://ibb.co/L950kJL
https://ibb.co/Yj183wZ
https://ibb.co/qjZJvbW
https://ibb.co/Y3FLL6J
https://ibb.co/qYLfKrV
https://ibb.co/qshxP9N
https://ibb.co/254CZ88
https://ibb.co/zxWXs4R
https://ibb.co/ZdWMLJY
https://ibb.co/7jMB5f2

[AgonizedFish]

For those who don’t mind being spoiled, here’s a couple of pics I took earlier today after receiving my keyset! It looks exactly like the renders, the pink is beautifully neon and bright, just as you might expect.

I’ll post some more once I get back home if anyone wants them.

https://ibb.co/TKWktwq
https://ibb.co/prVkG9T

Oh man that’s so sexy... please do post more haha, I have to get my fill while we wait for orders! Kinda bummed that we all have to wait even if we didn’t get Rama caps

Here you go!

https://ibb.co/DpRVKmC
https://ibb.co/L950kJL
https://ibb.co/Yj183wZ
https://ibb.co/qjZJvbW
https://ibb.co/Y3FLL6J
https://ibb.co/qYLfKrV
https://ibb.co/qshxP9N
https://ibb.co/254CZ88
https://ibb.co/zxWXs4R
https://ibb.co/ZdWMLJY
https://ibb.co/7jMB5f2

Holy... Not only did the colors come out 10/10 but the box is just as amazing... This might be my favorite GMK set in a long time and now the Rama caps are just keeping me from getting it. Thanks for the additional pics, my hype levels are going to be insane for the next few weeks!

[KuroTheCrazy]

Any word on when the RAMA caps are arriving? It's been about two weeks and having to wait for them when you didn't order one seems jank.

[mgsickler]

Any word on when the RAMA caps are arriving? It's been about two weeks and having to wait for them when you didn't order one seems jank.

We are expecting early March.

[ossetepo]

Any word on when the RAMA caps are arriving? It's been about two weeks and having to wait for them when you didn't order one seems jank.

We are expecting early March.

If the RAMA delays continue - for Covid-19 or any other reason - is there a date after which you would consider figuring out a means of fulfilling orders that don't have RAMA caps?

[mgsickler]

Any word on when the RAMA caps are arriving? It's been about two weeks and having to wait for them when you didn't order one seems jank.

We are expecting early March.

If the RAMA delays continue - for Covid-19 or any other reason - is there a date after which you would consider figuring out a means of fulfilling orders that don't have RAMA caps?

The Rama keycaps are completed and are shipping to Rama. They expect to have it shipped to us on Monday.

[axisean1]

Will extra be up right when the ramas come in??

[donan]

just got mine yesterday though once i opened it i noticed each one has a puncture on the top of each cap. is this normal?

have a picture here:

https://ibb.co/KwmPpX7

[tkh531]

just got mine yesterday though once i opened it i noticed each one has a puncture on the top of each cap. is this normal?

have a picture here:

https://ibb.co/KwmPpX7

Yes that is normal.

[mgsickler]

just got mine yesterday though once i opened it i noticed each one has a puncture on the top of each cap. is this normal?

have a picture here:

https://ibb.co/KwmPpX7

That is the sprue mark from injection molding. All keycaps will have them.

[donan]

noice, thx for the insanely fast replies!

Have a nice weekend everyone and hope you are all satisfied as i am with how they look! (very popping in the colours)

[LevelSteam]

Any word on when the RAMA caps are arriving? It's been about two weeks and having to wait for them when you didn't order one seems jank.

We are expecting early March.

Are we going to go through all of this again with more GBs that included rama caps?

[mgsickler]

Are we going to go through all of this again with more GBs that included rama caps?

Any GB's that have RAMA keycaps will need all components before shipping out.

[Frenaris]

Will there be extras of this kit? Or will I need to go to r/mechmarket?

[ossetepo]

Are we going to go through all of this again with more GBs that included rama caps?

Any GB's that have RAMA keycaps will need all components before shipping out.

I'm trying hard here not to tell you how to run your business, because I know I hate it when my customers do the same to me.

That said, I really urge you to consider developing a method to fulfill orders that do not include RAMA caps, or any other SKU which has a different supplier than the other SKUs, while waiting on that SKU to be available.

As a customer, waiting for fulfillment because a SKU I didn't order hasn't delivered yet, particularly while all of the other proxies are delivering, feels BAD.  Like, so bad that it's going to subconsciously influence my decision to buy in the future.  Even if, as is the case, I have purchased from you several times with zero bad experiences. 

[dwarflemur]

jeez man, you gotta be patient with this **** tho. What's another week after waiting several months?

[Sycomore]

jeez man, you gotta be patient with this **** tho. What's another week after waiting several months?

"Because I want everything now!!1!111!!"

[mgsickler]

I'm trying hard here not to tell you how to run your business, because I know I hate it when my customers do the same to me.

That said, I really urge you to consider developing a method to fulfill orders that do not include RAMA caps, or any other SKU which has a different supplier than the other SKUs, while waiting on that SKU to be available.

As a customer, waiting for fulfillment because a SKU I didn't order hasn't delivered yet, particularly while all of the other proxies are delivering, feels BAD.  Like, so bad that it's going to subconsciously influence my decision to buy in the future.  Even if, as is the case, I have purchased from you several times with zero bad experiences.

A couple things here.

1 - RAMA keycaps are completed and currently in transit to the RAMA WORKS team. They expect they will have this shipped out to us this coming week.
2 - I understand that it can be frustrating to have to wait just a little bit more.

But, in terms of the RAMA keycaps in the future - there are two options.

1 - I separate them out, just like I do with deskpads. This means that there would have to be separate shipping paid for the RAMA keycaps vs the GMK (or other manu) keycap GB.
2 - I continue doing them like they are, which I believe is the better of the two options. Customers get to save on shipping costs, and have the keycaps shipped all together.


This is the first delay that we have ever seen with RAMA, and it was caused by an event that no one could predict. We already have on hand other RAMA keycaps for future GB's where we are just waiting on the keycaps. This is just a one off experience so far.

Through this experience though, we have been completely transparent and open. We have kept everyone updated. Processing and shipping out over 500 orders is something that needs to be as organized as possible to minimize any type of errors.

If this is so bad of an experience for you, I apologize and will understand if you do not purchase from us in the future.

[WifeIsGoddess]

Are we going to go through all of this again with more GBs that included rama caps?

Any GB's that have RAMA keycaps will need all components before shipping out.

I'm trying hard here not to tell you how to run your business, because I know I hate it when my customers do the same to me.

That said, I really urge you to consider developing a method to fulfill orders that do not include RAMA caps, or any other SKU which has a different supplier than the other SKUs, while waiting on that SKU to be available.

As a customer, waiting for fulfillment because a SKU I didn't order hasn't delivered yet, particularly while all of the other proxies are delivering, feels BAD.  Like, so bad that it's going to subconsciously influence my decision to buy in the future.  Even if, as is the case, I have purchased from you several times with zero bad experiences.

I totally agree with you. I have purchased total $2K worth of goods from the NovelKeys since May 2018, but this is the first time that I faced this ridiculous situation.
I wonder why the RAMA keys were complete production later than the delayed Vaporwave set even though they had so much more time to be produced because the Vaporwave set was months behind the original scheduled date.
I don't know if this is the fault of the RAMA or the fault of the NovelKeys, but I think they should apologize properly.
There are many other GBs to be received from the NovelKeys in the future, but this is a real challenge. I don't want to go through this again.

[forevermadrigal]

The set was already delayed lol. Why you guys care so much about waiting a few more weeks. You're acting like this isn't a keyboard hobby with delays that happen with most gb's. Most sets have their rama caps made before gb (GMK Voyage has all theirs finished), but what you're failing to understand is that there was one off complications with it. In what gb's are you guys in where there wasn't any kind of delay? oH My gOd NoT aNOthEr dELaY!!11!!1!!! REEEEEEEEEE.

[ninjacore]

Sheesh, the brigading is real.

Dude just politely wondered why a delay to a product not contained in order X would delay that order and you’re all acting like he’s launched an international boycott. Calm down everyone - questions and suggestions are okay

[SwitchKeys]

Partially fulfilling orders from the same Group Buy would be an absolute nightmare. Think of it no differently than if they were waiting on a child kit like spacebars etc. It's not feasible to expect Mike and the team to sift through every order to see what can and cannot be fulfilled, when it is far easier to wait till the kits are complete and knock them out at once.

[WifeIsGoddess]

The set was already delayed lol. Why you guys care so much about waiting a few more weeks. You're acting like this isn't a keyboard hobby with delays that happen with most gb's. Most sets have their rama caps made before gb (GMK Voyage has all theirs finished), but what you're failing to understand is that there was one off complications with it. In what gb's are you guys in where there wasn't any kind of delay? oH My gOd NoT aNOthEr dELaY!!11!!1!!! REEEEEEEEEE.

If it's just a delay, of course it won't matter because I participated in the second round of SA Symbiosis haha. Well, let's say partial shipping is hard, but why did Rama caps production not go as fast as other GB's, even though it had enough time? There was enough explanation for it, but I simply didn't see it?

[ninjacore]

Partially fulfilling orders from the same Group Buy would be an absolute nightmare. Think of it no differently than if they were waiting on a child kit like spacebars etc. It's not feasible to expect Mike and the team to sift through every order to see what can and cannot be fulfilled, when it is far easier to wait till the kits are complete and knock them out at once.

Yea, that makes sense.  I know these vendors are mostly small operations.  I just also see the question asked as reasonable and don't really understand all the re(eeeeeeeee!)sponses.

[forevermadrigal]

Partially fulfilling orders from the same Group Buy would be an absolute nightmare. Think of it no differently than if they were waiting on a child kit like spacebars etc. It's not feasible to expect Mike and the team to sift through every order to see what can and cannot be fulfilled, when it is far easier to wait till the kits are complete and knock them out at once.

Yea, that makes sense.  I know these vendors are mostly small operations.  I just also see the question asked as reasonable and don't really understand all the re(eeeeeeeee!)sponses.

I wasn't responding to the person asking reasonably. I was answering to the person calling this ridiculous and demanding for an apology when one was already given by the vendor

[Andalus]

Someone referred to a late NK shipment as “a challenge”. Jeez dude, they’re key caps. Talk about first world problems. Lol.  )

[outsider]

Someone referred to a late NK shipment as “a challenge”. Jeez dude, they’re key caps. Talk about first world problems. Lol.  )

Not to mention NK has always been on the up and up.

[DukeEsquire]

Are we going to go through all of this again with more GBs that included rama caps?

Any GB's that have RAMA keycaps will need all components before shipping out.

I'm trying hard here not to tell you how to run your business, because I know I hate it when my customers do the same to me.

That said, I really urge you to consider developing a method to fulfill orders that do not include RAMA caps, or any other SKU which has a different supplier than the other SKUs, while waiting on that SKU to be available.

As a customer, waiting for fulfillment because a SKU I didn't order hasn't delivered yet, particularly while all of the other proxies are delivering, feels BAD.  Like, so bad that it's going to subconsciously influence my decision to buy in the future.  Even if, as is the case, I have purchased from you several times with zero bad experiences.

I totally agree with you. I have purchased total $2K worth of goods from the NovelKeys since May 2018, but this is the first time that I faced this ridiculous situation.
I wonder why the RAMA keys were complete production later than the delayed Vaporwave set even though they had so much more time to be produced because the Vaporwave set was months behind the original scheduled date.
I don't know if this is the fault of the RAMA or the fault of the NovelKeys, but I think they should apologize properly.
There are many other GBs to be received from the NovelKeys in the future, but this is a real challenge. I don't want to go through this again.

"I don't know if this is the fault of the RAMA or the fault of the NovelKeys, but I think they should apologize properly."

Lol, what?

Do you want a personal letter from Mike or something?

The only people getting upset are probably some keycap flippers who are upset that they are losing first mover advantage.

[LevelSteam]

Sorry for the wording on my part. I'm just bummed out about another delay on a set I'm (still) really looking forward to and also wanted to know if the same thing could happen in other sets that had a rama cap pairing. Definitely didn't mean to start some huge flame war about it, so again I apologize.

[WifeIsGoddess]

lol, funny situation.
I wrote here again.
I wonder why the RAMA keycap was completed later than the delayed Vaporwave set, even though it had much more time to produce.
SA Symbiosis, which I've been waiting for for over a year, explained exactly why production is delayed and I've been waiting quietly because manager fully explained why. But this is different, isn't it?
There wasn't enough explanation for why RAMA keycap production delayed, just saying that the RAMA keycap didn't arrive so they send them together when RAMA keycap arrived.
should I just shut up and wait until they ship it to me, instead of acting like I haven't participated in any of the other GBs?

[WifeIsGoddess]

Are we going to go through all of this again with more GBs that included rama caps?

Any GB's that have RAMA keycaps will need all components before shipping out.

I'm trying hard here not to tell you how to run your business, because I know I hate it when my customers do the same to me.

That said, I really urge you to consider developing a method to fulfill orders that do not include RAMA caps, or any other SKU which has a different supplier than the other SKUs, while waiting on that SKU to be available.

As a customer, waiting for fulfillment because a SKU I didn't order hasn't delivered yet, particularly while all of the other proxies are delivering, feels BAD.  Like, so bad that it's going to subconsciously influence my decision to buy in the future.  Even if, as is the case, I have purchased from you several times with zero bad experiences.

I totally agree with you. I have purchased total $2K worth of goods from the NovelKeys since May 2018, but this is the first time that I faced this ridiculous situation.
I wonder why the RAMA keys were complete production later than the delayed Vaporwave set even though they had so much more time to be produced because the Vaporwave set was months behind the original scheduled date.
I don't know if this is the fault of the RAMA or the fault of the NovelKeys, but I think they should apologize properly.
There are many other GBs to be received from the NovelKeys in the future, but this is a real challenge. I don't want to go through this again.

"I don't know if this is the fault of the RAMA or the fault of the NovelKeys, but I think they should apologize properly."

Lol, what?

Do you want a personal letter from Mike or something?

The only people getting upset are probably some keycap flippers who are upset that they are losing first mover advantage.

I ordered this set from NovelKeys, so there's no first mover avantage of Flipper. lol
Because NovelKey releases the extras as soon as they ships out the GB.
What I just said was never meant to blame NovelKeys. I'm just saying that someone seems to be sarcastic about this situation as a complaint from Flipper.

[DukeEsquire]

lol, funny situation.
I wrote here again.
I wonder why the RAMA keycap was completed later than the delayed Vaporwave set, even though it had much more time to produce.
SA Symbiosis, which I've been waiting for for over a year, explained exactly why production is delayed and I've been waiting quietly because manager fully explained why. But this is different, isn't it?
There wasn't enough explanation for why RAMA keycap production delayed, just saying that the RAMA keycap didn't arrive so they send them together when RAMA keycap arrived.
should I just shut up and wait until they ship it to me, instead of acting like I haven't participated in any of the other GBs?

Rama has been backed up for a long time. They took on too much production since every GB has some kind of Rama cap.

No need to wonder anymore.

You don't have to shut up, but asking for an apology from Mike because Rama is slow is silly. If you ask for something silly, then expect backlash.

[WifeIsGoddess]

I apologize.
Come to think of it, in about a week or two more, I could get Vaporwave, but I think I said something meaningless.
I'll just wait quietly.
Again, I apologize to all those who might have been hurt by my words.

[KuroTheCrazy]

IMO the biggest frustration from this is that the caps for probably about half of people's orders are at NK, ready to be shipped, but being delayed further by something that doesn't affect their orders at all, while other vendors for this set haven't had the same issue and have been shipping out to people already. By the time the RAMA caps arrive to NK and things start shipping out, it will already be almost a month of an extra delay with the caps being in stock, just held up by a system that seems to only be affecting NK.

[forevermadrigal]

It’s in how you approach it honestly. You don’t have to wait or “suffer” in silence, but just ask nicely and with a negative attitude

[OracleKev]

IMO the biggest frustration from this is that the caps for probably about half of people's orders are at NK, ready to be shipped, but being delayed further by something that doesn't affect their orders at all, while other vendors for this set haven't had the same issue and have been shipping out to people already. By the time the RAMA caps arrive to NK and things start shipping out, it will already be almost a month of an extra delay with the caps being in stock, just held up by a system that seems to only be affecting NK.

Ditto, it's the comparison with other vendors that gives negative appearance.
My ask to NK and Mike is: don't change the current system since it sounds like it might cause other issues.  But consider doing things differently for future.  Pls don't give curt NO unless you can explain the difference with other vendors.

[mgsickler]

IMO the biggest frustration from this is that the caps for probably about half of people's orders are at NK, ready to be shipped, but being delayed further by something that doesn't affect their orders at all, while other vendors for this set haven't had the same issue and have been shipping out to people already. By the time the RAMA caps arrive to NK and things start shipping out, it will already be almost a month of an extra delay with the caps being in stock, just held up by a system that seems to only be affecting NK.

Ditto, it's the comparison with other vendors that gives negative appearance.
My ask to NK and Mike is: don't change the current system since it sounds like it might cause other issues.  But consider doing things differently for future.  Pls don't give curt NO unless you can explain the difference with other vendors.

Not all vendors have shipped out, and I might be mistaken, but I think Daily Clack is the only vendor that has shipped out. We all use different methods for accepting and fulfilling orders. There is not a set standard that every vendor uses. A lot of us use Shopify, but NovelKeys only uses Shopify to accept orders - not to fulfill them.

There are mainly two reasons that we aren't able to change this system. One is how we process orders. Everything in the same product page needs to be processed together. I keep deskpads separate for this very reason. I know that deskpads will always arrive earlier than the keycaps. The second reason is the volume. I dont want to get into specifics of other vendors numbers, but NA sales are vastly greater than EU, Australia, and Asia sales combined.

The only way this will be able to be changed in the future is if I separate RAMA keycaps from future GB's. I do not have any plans on doing that. This is a one off delay that we have had from RAMA. Our order was place with RAMA at the same time of the keycaps. I am not sure of the exact details why it has had a delay, but I do know that this is a special coated keycaps, and then the corona virus hit.

[delrn]

IMO the biggest frustration from this is that the caps for probably about half of people's orders are at NK, ready to be shipped, but being delayed further by something that doesn't affect their orders at all, while other vendors for this set haven't had the same issue and have been shipping out to people already. By the time the RAMA caps arrive to NK and things start shipping out, it will already be almost a month of an extra delay with the caps being in stock, just held up by a system that seems to only be affecting NK.

Ditto, it's the comparison with other vendors that gives negative appearance.
My ask to NK and Mike is: don't change the current system since it sounds like it might cause other issues.  But consider doing things differently for future.  Pls don't give curt NO unless you can explain the difference with other vendors.

Not all vendors have shipped out, and I might be mistaken, but I think Daily Clack is the only vendor that has shipped out. We all use different methods for accepting and fulfilling orders. There is not a set standard that every vendor uses. A lot of us use Shopify, but NovelKeys only uses Shopify to accept orders - not to fulfill them.

There are mainly two reasons that we aren't able to change this system. One is how we process orders. Everything in the same product page needs to be processed together. I keep deskpads separate for this very reason. I know that deskpads will always arrive earlier than the keycaps. The second reason is the volume. I dont want to get into specifics of other vendors numbers, but NA sales are vastly greater than EU, Australia, and Asia sales combined.

The only way this will be able to be changed in the future is if I separate RAMA keycaps from future GB's. I do not have any plans on doing that. This is a one off delay that we have had from RAMA. Our order was place with RAMA at the same time of the keycaps. I am not sure of the exact details why it has had a delay, but I do know that this is a special coated keycaps, and then the corona virus hit.

I agree with how you are handling this, but mykeyboard has already shipped orders without RAMA caps FYI.


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[outsider]

IMO the biggest frustration from this is that the caps for probably about half of people's orders are at NK, ready to be shipped, but being delayed further by something that doesn't affect their orders at all, while other vendors for this set haven't had the same issue and have been shipping out to people already. By the time the RAMA caps arrive to NK and things start shipping out, it will already be almost a month of an extra delay with the caps being in stock, just held up by a system that seems to only be affecting NK.

Ditto, it's the comparison with other vendors that gives negative appearance.
My ask to NK and Mike is: don't change the current system since it sounds like it might cause other issues.  But consider doing things differently for future.  Pls don't give curt NO unless you can explain the difference with other vendors.

Not all vendors have shipped out, and I might be mistaken, but I think Daily Clack is the only vendor that has shipped out. We all use different methods for accepting and fulfilling orders. There is not a set standard that every vendor uses. A lot of us use Shopify, but NovelKeys only uses Shopify to accept orders - not to fulfill them.

There are mainly two reasons that we aren't able to change this system. One is how we process orders. Everything in the same product page needs to be processed together. I keep deskpads separate for this very reason. I know that deskpads will always arrive earlier than the keycaps. The second reason is the volume. I dont want to get into specifics of other vendors numbers, but NA sales are vastly greater than EU, Australia, and Asia sales combined.

The only way this will be able to be changed in the future is if I separate RAMA keycaps from future GB's. I do not have any plans on doing that. This is a one off delay that we have had from RAMA. Our order was place with RAMA at the same time of the keycaps. I am not sure of the exact details why it has had a delay, but I do know that this is a special coated keycaps, and then the corona virus hit.

Totally agree with keeping things together.  IMO - the more I could combine with each GB the better to save on shipping.  I wish desk pads could be combined but I'm sure there is a reason.  Keep up the great work Mike.