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[tjcaustin]

> people hate secondhand prices and complain about how it's unfair because they never get picked
> people hate when artisans make more caps to sate demand because...less rare?

So yeah, hooray for not being able to win there, bro.

[inanis]

As other people have said, I like all of them for different reasons. I don't think one size fits all and that is part of the fun.

[BlueNalgene]

Adding 2¢

I felt a bit jilted when I found out the Cherokey sale was GB style.  I'm not trying to increase the value of my collection - because I don't have much of one.  The rarity feels like IRL loot.  I just really enjoy the challenge of getting something unique.  What is the point of doing a mass buy of something made individually?  Isn't the purpose of a GB to reduce cost for the consumer?  I feel like if you want to mass market stuff where everyone can have access to it, you need to move to cheaper production methods for those runs.  This is really just over-saturating the market, and leading to a collapse of the artisan cap fad.

Sure, rarity isn't everything either.  There are some caps which are highly sought after, and they don't pique my interest either.

But if GB is the direction, I suddenly don't really care as much about possessing Bros.  And that bums me out.

These are just personal opinions.  No saltiness intended.

I can understand your position on this, but the group buy was more of a way to gauge the interest in this particular design, and try to accommodate that demand. It's not something that would happen often.
I feel like on one hand, I want to try to please everyone, but that's going to be impossible. On the other hand, people are going to complain that I don't produce enough, etc.


This sale was still limited, and none of those styles will be made again, so if you were hoping for rarity, it still exists, if you consider the amount of demand versus actual supply.


And again, if I make enough to meet demand, people are going to complain about exclusivity issues. Catch 22 -_-


Bunny and I always listen to feedback, and experiment with different things. We are definitely listening to the feedback from this last sale, and will be making adjustments where needed.

Catch 22 indeed.  People would complain about the lack of complainers if they could.

[mbrown559]

Different Strokes for Different Folks.  aka This thread in a nutshell.  Do it how you like it Bro  !

[skycrimes]

In regards to the GB itself that we just had, I think it went fine. People were forewarned about it and it was pretty straight forward - one cap of each style.

I do find it weird that it was in the group buys vs bro caps but I mean it was a gb so I guess not that weird? maybe keeping all bro sales regardless of raffle or gb on the bro side of ctrl alt. As far as the issues people were having, I'm not sure about that I didn't have a single issue getting in so as far as I can say it went well. 

[baldgye]

Please stay on topic.

Please send any questions or complaints to my inbox to be fully ignored.

Lmao are you for real?
I made a post here about the rarity debate nonsense and then moved it to the therapy thread because I didn't want to derail Bro's feedback thread, you then post some inane bull****, and are somehow able to get it removed and replaced with a proper post, then dare to call me out for being off topic?

Still though, guess it's better than calling me a victim blamer

[64rky]

> people hate secondhand prices and complain about how it's unfair because they never get picked
> people hate when artisans make more caps to sate demand because...less rare?

Are these the same people?

[demik]

Please stay on topic.

Please send any questions or complaints to my inbox to be fully ignored.

Lmao are you for real?
I made a post here about the rarity debate nonsense and then moved it to the therapy thread because I didn't want to derail Bro's feedback thread, you then post some inane bull****, and are somehow able to get it removed and replaced with a proper post, then dare to call me out for being off topic?

Still though, guess it's better than calling me a victim blamer

Ayy lmao ಠ_ಠ

I left my feedback bro. I don't know what you're going on about.

[Fire Brand]

Please stay on topic.

Please send any questions or complaints to my inbox to be fully ignored.

Lmao are you for real?
I made a post here about the rarity debate nonsense and then moved it to the therapy thread because I didn't want to derail Bro's feedback thread, you then post some inane bull****, and are somehow able to get it removed and replaced with a proper post, then dare to call me out for being off topic?

Still though, guess it's better than calling me a victim blamer

Baldgye your looking too deep into it and trying to find meaning in what he's currently saying when infact it is just a load of crap, bar that one thing about the max of 2

[jerue]

> people hate secondhand prices and complain about how it's unfair because they never get picked
> people hate when artisans make more caps to sate demand because...less rare?

So yeah, hooray for not being able to win there, bro.

Pretty much how things always turn out whenever you do something right...can never please everyone. I have complained a lot about missing sales, but looking back that's part of the fun, and honestly, I think my opinion is being swayed a bit by the group buy. But even if it were still a choice between raffle style and email, I'd still choose the raffle. Email/flash sales are just frustrating lol

[rowdy]

Adding 2¢

I felt a bit jilted when I found out the Cherokey sale was GB style.  I'm not trying to increase the value of my collection - because I don't have much of one.  The rarity feels like IRL loot.  I just really enjoy the challenge of getting something unique.  What is the point of doing a mass buy of something made individually?  Isn't the purpose of a GB to reduce cost for the consumer?  I feel like if you want to mass market stuff where everyone can have access to it, you need to move to cheaper production methods for those runs.  This is really just over-saturating the market, and leading to a collapse of the artisan cap fad.

Sure, rarity isn't everything either.  There are some caps which are highly sought after, and they don't pique my interest either.

But if GB is the direction, I suddenly don't really care as much about possessing Bros.  And that bums me out.

These are just personal opinions.  No saltiness intended.

I can understand your position on this, but the group buy was more of a way to gauge the interest in this particular design, and try to accommodate that demand. It's not something that would happen often.
I feel like on one hand, I want to try to please everyone, but that's going to be impossible. On the other hand, people are going to complain that I don't produce enough, etc.


This sale was still limited, and none of those styles will be made again, so if you were hoping for rarity, it still exists, if you consider the amount of demand versus actual supply.


And again, if I make enough to meet demand, people are going to complain about exclusivity issues. Catch 22 -_-


Bunny and I always listen to feedback, and experiment with different things. We are definitely listening to the feedback from this last sale, and will be making adjustments where needed.

But then if you made enough of a particular keycap to please everyone, everyone would probably have a few of them.  Even if it was only one design and one colour.

Exclusivity would be lost, but everyone could say "I have a Bro Cap!".

Like Sadsters.

Imagine whole keyboards populated with one Bro Cap

You'd probably end up spending the rest of your life making that one keycap.

Some exclusivity has to remain!

[RELLIK]

Meh, can't stand exclusivity personally. If that's anybodies thing they should be out there customizing and making new stuff. Not securing something 'exclusive' with hundreds, particularly ONE cap imo. Raffle just seems too sketchy for me to partake in frankly =\ In the day and age of kickstarter's/GB's.
No knowledge of manufacturing, but sounds like you guys are doing 'too' good and should up it. Though of course  from a business perspective, you've got costs to worry about, QUALITY, the hassle of GB since its delayed, 3D printers becoming ever more prescidence, or simply other makers.
I missed Kraps on sale cus of the real world/work and exhaustion just now. Hate that salty feeling T.T

[Durvid]

I was pretty into the cherokey group buy thing, but also glad there were only a certain amount. It allowed more people to get into it but still keep up the general rarity.

[Bigpock]

A mix of all three sales with group buys being the least one done. I want my bro caps to be somewhat rare

[CPTBadAss]

Please bring back the old email sale format. Announced sale time, email a certain address. See if you get an email saying you won.

[Dee1]

Personally, I dislike the raffle format and much prefer the GB format, even when the GB amount is limited.

FCFS sales are nice if they are announced a decent amount of time beforehand and the choices are known beforehand. If it's announced like... 30 minutes before than it's kind of annoying because someone like me who is usually busy with work all day probably won't even see the announcement. Even after that, I have to plan to set aside a bit of time to beforehand in order to even participate in all of fun of going, "Omg, I submitted! Yay! Did I make it on time?! " And that's just because of how busy I am.

I hate the randomness of raffles. I know why they exist and how it's fair for everyone because people have time to submit tickets and someone's terrible internet service cutting out on them for 4 hours won't cause them to lose out on the chance for a cap and all that. But I just really don't like them. I prefer to be able to order an artisan cap and know that if I missed out on it then it's my fault. It isn't because I was unlucky. It's just because I missed the sale period or was too slow. But as I said, I get why it exists and I'm pretty happy everyone gets an equal chance at winning a cap even though I dislike the random nature of them.

I don't really care about "rarity" or "exclusivity" to the extent that some people seem to, so something like a limited GB is more preferable to me than a quick sale with fewer available caps. I don't care at all if 50 or 100 other people have the exact same cap I do. I don't desire Bros because they are rare or because I'll feel ... something if I get one. If I want a Bro cap, it's usually just because I just love the look of it! In addition to that, the only other thing I care about is the quality of the cap! It's not an investment for me or anything. I buy artisan caps because I love the look of them and the work that went into them and because I want to use them. I'm sure that there's some point where the quality of the caps has to decrease in order to reach a certain quantity. That is why, in order to preserve the quality of the caps, I am totally okay with limits on the # of caps people can buy or on the total # sold.

Well, I feel like I kind of rambled, but those are my thoughts on the matter.

[CommonCurt]

Please bring back the old email sale format. Announced sale time, email a certain address. See if you get an email saying you won.

[Sed8op8]

Please bring back the old email sale format. Announced sale time, email a certain address. See if you get an email saying you won.

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[64rky]

Mr Bro

I feel as if you have coincidentally created the most controversial thread this year.

 

raffle and rarity for life