Author Topic: CHERRY switches have NEW stems, supersmooth! (Read 128095 times)

Giorgio · « **Reply #300 on:** Sat, 23 June 2018, 15:54:12 »

Quote from: tomasG2 on Sat, 23 June 2018, 15:28:26

How do I know which keyboard has the new stems?

I got two cherry g80 3000 with blacks and they all had the new switches. Apart from that I'm not sure which brand stock the new switches. The difference is quite clear, so you could probably find a patient vendor.

mkarlsson · « **Reply #301 on:** Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:10:01 »

If anybody is interested there are Cherry blacks on Arrow at 0.20$:

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/mx1a-11nw-1/cherry-americas-llc

In fact there are two different "items" for the same product at different price:

https://www.arrow.com/es-mx/products/mx1a-11nw/cherry-americas-llc

They have a lot more stock from the cheap one, wil it be the old stock?

I ordered a bunch of the cheap ones to see if I am lucky and get the retooled ones. We will see...

pixelpusher · « **Reply #302 on:** Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:30:23 »

Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:10:01

If anybody is interested there are Cherry blacks on Mouser at 0.20$:

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/mx1a-11nw-1/cherry-americas-llc

In fact there are two different "items" for the same product at different price:

https://www.arrow.com/es-mx/products/mx1a-11nw/cherry-americas-llc

They have a lot more stock from the cheap one, wil it be the old stock?

I ordered a bunch of the cheap ones to see if I am lucky and get the retooled ones. We will see...

Let us know

mkarlsson · « **Reply #303 on:** Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:40:15 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:30:23

Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:10:01
If anybody is interested there are Cherry blacks on Mouser at 0.20$:

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/mx1a-11nw-1/cherry-americas-llc

In fact there are two different "items" for the same product at different price:

https://www.arrow.com/es-mx/products/mx1a-11nw/cherry-americas-llc

They have a lot more stock from the cheap one, wil it be the old stock?

I ordered a bunch of the cheap ones to see if I am lucky and get the retooled ones. We will see...

Let us know

I will

radish · « **Reply #304 on:** Tue, 21 August 2018, 10:42:31 »

i got what appear to be new retooled clears. they are better then Browns but much worse then vintage clears. they exhibit the scratchiness everyone is talking about.

tuned they are better but not by much. 1st time i used them in a customer build, i wasn't impressed. in fact I'm a little disappointed.

fer.real · « **Reply #305 on:** Tue, 21 August 2018, 10:58:07 »

I didn't think MX Clears have been retooled. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/97ql8n/ic_cherry_mx_clears_fresh_batch_lead_in_time_68/e4a7de1

I did just get a batch of clears and they are unbelievably scratchy. Like nails on a chalkboard.

radish · « **Reply #306 on:** Tue, 21 August 2018, 10:59:42 »

hmm yes if that's the case I'm really confused. they have the new housing... i guess we can expect vintage and old clear switch prices to sky rocket.

wholypantalones · « **Reply #307 on:** Tue, 21 August 2018, 14:02:13 »

Quote from: radish on Tue, 21 August 2018, 10:59:42

hmm yes if that's the case I'm really confused. they have the new housing... i guess we can expect vintage and old clear switch prices to sky rocket.

Only if you pay the sky rocket prices.

Sup · « **Reply #308 on:** Tue, 21 August 2018, 14:45:03 »

I got some Retooled blacks from Arrow. And with some lube they are super smooth to type on would recommend.

radish · « **Reply #309 on:** Tue, 21 August 2018, 17:18:23 »

Quote from: wholypantalones on Tue, 21 August 2018, 14:02:13

Quote from: radish on Tue, 21 August 2018, 10:59:42
hmm yes if that's the case I'm really confused. they have the new housing... i guess we can expect vintage and old clear switch prices to sky rocket.

Only if you pay the sky rocket prices.

amen to that. i hope I'm never that desperate. ya'll got any of em mx clears in stock?

wholypantalones · « **Reply #310 on:** Tue, 21 August 2018, 19:19:33 »

Quote from: radish on Tue, 21 August 2018, 17:18:23

Quote from: wholypantalones on Tue, 21 August 2018, 14:02:13
Quote from: radish on Tue, 21 August 2018, 10:59:42
hmm yes if that's the case I'm really confused. they have the new housing... i guess we can expect vintage and old clear switch prices to sky rocket.

Only if you pay the sky rocket prices.

amen to that. i hope I'm never that desperate. ya'll got any of em mx clears in stock?

Switchtop and a few others have them @ 60 cents a piece but you can usually grab a handful here and there from those who realized they don't like clears for about 45 cents a peice on /r/artisanmarket

mkarlsson · « **Reply #311 on:** Wed, 22 August 2018, 12:59:25 »

Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:40:15

Quote from: pixelpusher on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:30:23
Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:10:01
If anybody is interested there are Cherry blacks on Mouser at 0.20$:

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/mx1a-11nw-1/cherry-americas-llc

In fact there are two different "items" for the same product at different price:

https://www.arrow.com/es-mx/products/mx1a-11nw/cherry-americas-llc

They have a lot more stock from the cheap one, wil it be the old stock?

I ordered a bunch of the cheap ones to see if I am lucky and get the retooled ones. We will see...

Let us know

I will

Got my order from Arrow. The switches have the old enclosure and the new stems. It is less scratchy that the old ones for sure. Not bad for the price.

reconsiderit · « **Reply #312 on:** Sat, 25 August 2018, 05:14:25 »

Quote from: mkarlsson on Wed, 22 August 2018, 12:59:25

Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:40:15
Quote from: pixelpusher on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:30:23
Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:10:01
If anybody is interested there are Cherry blacks on Mouser at 0.20$:

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/mx1a-11nw-1/cherry-americas-llc

In fact there are two different "items" for the same product at different price:

https://www.arrow.com/es-mx/products/mx1a-11nw/cherry-americas-llc

They have a lot more stock from the cheap one, wil it be the old stock?

I ordered a bunch of the cheap ones to see if I am lucky and get the retooled ones. We will see...

Let us know

I will

Got my order from Arrow. The switches have the old enclosure and the new stems. It is less scratchy that the old ones for sure. Not bad for the price.

How do you tell the old housings from the new ones?

mkarlsson · « **Reply #313 on:** Sat, 25 August 2018, 06:32:32 »

Quote from: reconsiderit on Sat, 25 August 2018, 05:14:25

Quote from: mkarlsson on Wed, 22 August 2018, 12:59:25
Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:40:15
Quote from: pixelpusher on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:30:23
Quote from: mkarlsson on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:10:01
If anybody is interested there are Cherry blacks on Mouser at 0.20$:

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/mx1a-11nw-1/cherry-americas-llc

In fact there are two different "items" for the same product at different price:

https://www.arrow.com/es-mx/products/mx1a-11nw/cherry-americas-llc

They have a lot more stock from the cheap one, wil it be the old stock?

I ordered a bunch of the cheap ones to see if I am lucky and get the retooled ones. We will see...

Let us know

I will

Got my order from Arrow. The switches have the old enclosure and the new stems. It is less scratchy that the old ones for sure. Not bad for the price.

How do you tell the old housings from the new ones?

Take a look at post #290 by pixelpusher. The logo is different. Left the old one and new on the right.

ThomasTH · « **Reply #314 on:** Sun, 26 August 2018, 12:31:23 »

Got mine too, the logo looks like the left one in pixelpushers post and they are quite smooth (tho i lack switches to compare them too). I dont nothig anything scratchy at all.

OracleKev · « **Reply #315 on:** Sun, 26 August 2018, 22:17:58 »

Price went up to .2945 (for 100+). Bummer.

reconsiderit · « **Reply #316 on:** Mon, 27 August 2018, 01:04:51 »

I just got to taking a few of mine apart and they're smooth for the most part. Not amazing smooth, but very good.

These seem to have the old tops (with the bolder cherry logo) but with the shiny silver spring and not the copper looking one. Shouldn't be an issue as I'm planning to swap these over anyways.

Lansky · « **Reply #317 on:** Mon, 01 October 2018, 04:45:06 »

I ordered 200 retooled MX Blacks (MX1A-11NW-1) from Arrow when they were 20c a piece. I took some comparison shots of an old MX Black I had laying around. The new ones have the old bold logo, but the stem is different and looks significantly smoother than the old one, at least judging by the shine of the plastic.

The old one is on the left, the new retooled on the right:

Visionaire · « **Reply #318 on:** Mon, 01 October 2018, 08:15:08 »

Quote from: Lansky on Mon, 01 October 2018, 04:45:06

I ordered 200 retooled MX Blacks (MX1A-11NW-1) from Arrow when they were 20c a piece. I took some comparison shots of an old MX Black I had laying around. The new ones have the old bold logo, but the stem is different and looks significantly smoother than the old one, at least judging by the shine of the plastic.

The old one is on the left, the new retooled on the right:
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Thanks for posting these. Do you know if the retooling affected the housings too, or just the stems?

Lansky · « **Reply #319 on:** Mon, 01 October 2018, 16:13:57 »

Quote from: Visionaire on Mon, 01 October 2018, 08:15:08

Thanks for posting these. Do you know if the retooling affected the housings too, or just the stems?

No problem! As far as I can tell, the housings are identical except for the font and maybe the texture of the plastic. There doesn't seem to be any changes to the leafs either.

killyou · « **Reply #320 on:** Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:25:46 »

Hello. I have a fairly new keyboard with Cherry MX Blues. How do I tell whether they are the old or retooled stock? Thanks!

wholypantalones · « **Reply #321 on:** Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:56:16 »

Quote from: killyou on Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:25:46

Hello. I have a fairly new keyboard with Cherry MX Blues. How do I tell whether they are the old or retooled stock? Thanks!

You can't unless you can get a really good look at the stem out of the housing..

mkarlsson · « **Reply #322 on:** Mon, 15 October 2018, 15:37:18 »

Quote from: wholypantalones on Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:56:16

Quote from: killyou on Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:25:46
Hello. I have a fairly new keyboard with Cherry MX Blues. How do I tell whether they are the old or retooled stock? Thanks!

You can't unless you can get a really good look at the stem out of the housing..

Yes you can, retooled casing has a different logo (thinner lettering) and the stem has no step on the upper external border. Also, the blue color is kind of deeper.

mkarlsson · « **Reply #323 on:** Fri, 19 October 2018, 18:32:45 »

So I got an order today from Reichelt with Cherry MX clears. I was hopping to get at least what I thought was the new switch casings with the new logo. Instead of that I found a logo that I had not seen before or at least did not pay attention. So right know I have switches from Cherry with three different logos

Were you guys aware of these three different logos on the cherry switch enclosure?

This is the old classic logo:

Cherry MX black (MX1A-11NW)

This one I thought it was the one after the retooling (lettering not matching the company's logo):

Cherry MX Silent Red (MX3A-L1NN)

And now this one that I was not aware of:

Cherry MX Clear (MX1A-C1NN)

This last one has the current modern logo from Cherry.

Am I totally lost about this?

pixelpusher · « **Reply #324 on:** Fri, 19 October 2018, 19:14:03 »

What the heck is that last one?! It does seem weird that they have 3 different logos in production. I sure hope one of them isn't a knockoff.

mkarlsson · « **Reply #325 on:** Fri, 19 October 2018, 19:23:14 »

Taking a closer look I would say the Clear one is from somewhere in between the other two.

You can see that it has characteristics from the older black one and the newest red one:

wholypantalones · « **Reply #326 on:** Fri, 19 October 2018, 21:52:11 »

Retooled vs vintage. Slight bevel on the stem and logo are the only differences. I can swap stems around and you can't really tell which is which..

mkarlsson · « **Reply #327 on:** Sat, 20 October 2018, 04:30:38 »

Quote from: wholypantalones on Fri, 19 October 2018, 21:52:11

Retooled vs vintage. Slight bevel on the stem and logo are the only differences. I can swap stems around and you can't really tell which is which..

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Not in that picture for sure. But if you take a good side picture you should be able to tell.

Here is an example:

Clear non retooled stem

Red retooled stem

romevi · « **Reply #328 on:** Mon, 22 October 2018, 23:54:32 »

Y'all need to go outside more.

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Author Topic: CHERRY switches have NEW stems, supersmooth! (Read 128095 times)