Author Topic: [IC] Noxary 280 & 220 (Read 91579 times)

p_blaze · « **Reply #350 on:** Wed, 02 May 2018, 21:58:59 »

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 02 May 2018, 21:07:39

Quote from: p_blaze on Wed, 02 May 2018, 20:44:34
Quote from: xondat on Wed, 02 May 2018, 19:19:24
Quote from: p_blaze on Wed, 02 May 2018, 19:06:33
I just saw the Cinque in the project page, those bezels are perfect
I think I'm going to wait for that, so sorry if I don't jump on the 280 xondat

That probably won't even be this year

I love the design though; this is something I'd wait a year for especially with the quality of the 268. The layout with arrow keys stepped in and blocker above the right arrow key is one of my ultimate keyboard fetishes, and the only thing I would personally change is to block off the 2 keys in the row above the top arrow key like a TKL (would be awesome as an option in the eventual GB or something).
All said, this is as endgame as it gets for me, so I might as well wait for it

Well I won't spoil too much, but it'll likely be a one layout deal as it is a modernized G80-5000.

Still figuring out what to use instead of the original bottom row, it's impossible to source 3.5u Cherry spacebars

Split the spacebar? Blockers might be a cool way to solve the issue as well if shortening the spacebar isn't a problem, but I'm a blocker fanatic so take it with a grain of salt

crtexcnndrm99 · « **Reply #351 on:** Thu, 03 May 2018, 02:48:19 »

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 02 May 2018, 21:07:39

Well I won't spoil too much, but it'll likely be a one layout deal as it is a modernized G80-5000.

Ummm. Mr Xondat would you please stop reading my mind.

Sincerely,
Someone who doesn’t want to buy kustom boards anymore

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But for real, I haven’t seen that post! G80-5k is the be-all end-all in my eyes (note: my flair..), if you’re working on that layout my interest is more than piqued

Etherealsound · « **Reply #352 on:** Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:37:59 »

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 02 May 2018, 18:13:48

If say 5 people wanted 7075, and they're all the same color, I'm happy to make it happen.

Basically, as long as the effort isn't wasted, it's fine.

Lf> 5 people who are in for silver 7075

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phorx · « **Reply #353 on:** Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:47:31 »

Quote from: Etherealsound on Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:37:59

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 02 May 2018, 18:13:48
If say 5 people wanted 7075, and they're all the same color, I'm happy to make it happen.

Basically, as long as the effort isn't wasted, it's fine.

Lf> 5 people who are in for silver 7075 )

I don't think you can get 7075 in silver

SpectreiiI · « **Reply #354 on:** Thu, 03 May 2018, 14:45:55 »

Err, I was wanting white cerakote, but now I'm thinking more dark grey 7075 special edition with 5mm plate.

Etherealsound · « **Reply #355 on:** Fri, 04 May 2018, 01:36:30 »

Quote from: phorx on Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:47:31

Quote from: Etherealsound on Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:37:59
Quote from: xondat on Wed, 02 May 2018, 18:13:48
If say 5 people wanted 7075, and they're all the same color, I'm happy to make it happen.

Basically, as long as the effort isn't wasted, it's fine.

Lf> 5 people who are in for silver 7075 )

I don't think you can get 7075 in silver

Pretty sure you can. They did it with TGR Jane, Mira SE, OTD 356cl

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keebweeb · « **Reply #356 on:** Fri, 04 May 2018, 11:22:45 »

You can definitely get 7075 in silver as long as the anodized layer is thin enough, the iphone 6s did it but google tells me it's aluminum oxide layer was only about 10 microns thick (likely to cut costs).

I would totally be in if 7075 does happen as long as the price isn't too crazy, dark grey would be my preferred colour but silver is fine too.

xondat · « **Reply #357 on:** Fri, 04 May 2018, 20:47:17 »

I'll ask what's possible with 7075 soon.

Anyone down to try 5 series?

p_blaze · « **Reply #358 on:** Fri, 04 May 2018, 21:17:10 »

Quote from: xondat on Fri, 04 May 2018, 20:47:17

I'll ask what's possible with 7075 soon.

Anyone down to try 5 series?

Yo that is spicy
I'm really looking forward to the results of this GB, it will definitely help me narrow down an endgame

Puddsy · « **Reply #359 on:** Fri, 04 May 2018, 21:40:57 »

Quote from: xondat on Fri, 04 May 2018, 20:47:17

I'll ask what's possible with 7075 soon.

Anyone down to try 5 series?

china hates it but everyone else loves it

Jhors2 · « **Reply #360 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 00:37:23 »

I'd be up for 7075 as well.

foxmancore · « **Reply #361 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 02:14:57 »

In for 7075

soba · « **Reply #362 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 02:18:47 »

Interest for 7075, but depend on price

StrangPrisoner · « **Reply #363 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 17:30:49 »

Checking in for 7075

Etherealsound · « **Reply #364 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 20:44:51 »

Quote from: keebweeb on Fri, 04 May 2018, 11:22:45

You can definitely get 7075 in silver as long as the anodized layer is thin enough, the iphone 6s did it but google tells me it's aluminum oxide layer was only about 10 microns thick (likely to cut costs).

I would totally be in if 7075 does happen as long as the price isn't too crazy, dark grey would be my preferred colour but silver is fine too.

Ah, is that the case. Well, I'd still prefer silver but if it be in for a grey, red or grey/blue as well.

oh_chesteroni · « **Reply #365 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:18:51 »

I know nothing about metal, what's so special about 7075? More scratch resistant? Heavier?

xondat · « **Reply #366 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:22:09 »

Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:18:51

I know nothing about metal, what's so special about 7075? More scratch resistant? Heavier?

From my limited knowledge, I think it anodizes better, but it's more expensive.

I'll have to ask the factory

Remsky · « **Reply #367 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:28:55 »

Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:18:51

I know nothing about metal, what's so special about 7075? More scratch resistant? Heavier?

7k series alu is most often used and anodized for the automotive industry because of its strength compared to other aluminum series. 6k series aluminum like 6061 hard anodize really well and 6063 is the go to alloy for cosmetic anodizing. Both series can anodize well, but 7k series has more problems than 6k due to how much zinc is used in the alloy. More zinc means a more brown-like coating.

oh_chesteroni · « **Reply #368 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:32:49 »

Quote from: Remsky on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:28:55

Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:18:51
I know nothing about metal, what's so special about 7075? More scratch resistant? Heavier?
7k series alu is most often used and anodized for the automotive industry because of its strength compared to other aluminum series. 6k series aluminum like 6061 hard anodize really well and 6063 is the go to alloy for cosmetic anodizing. Both series can anodize well, but 7k series has more problems than 6k due to how much zinc is used in the alloy. More zinc means a more brown-like coating.

So 7075 is worse for anodizing? Why is everyone interested in it then? Btw, not trying to be critical or anything, just trying to learn

Remsky · « **Reply #369 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:42:38 »

Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:32:49

Quote from: Remsky on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:28:55
Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:18:51
I know nothing about metal, what's so special about 7075? More scratch resistant? Heavier?
7k series alu is most often used and anodized for the automotive industry because of its strength compared to other aluminum series. 6k series aluminum like 6061 hard anodize really well and 6063 is the go to alloy for cosmetic anodizing. Both series can anodize well, but 7k series has more problems than 6k due to how much zinc is used in the alloy. More zinc means a more brown-like coating.
So 7075 is worse for anodizing? Why is everyone interested in it then? Btw, not trying to be critical or anything, just trying to learn

Its not necessarily worse, its just that the alloy can be harder to work with. There is a noticeable difference between anodized 7075 aluminum and 6061/3 aluminum. A lot of automotive parts that are anodized are made from 7k series aluminum, if you want an example of how it looks.

superdoedoe · « **Reply #370 on:** Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:59:42 »

sign me up bb

p_blaze · « **Reply #371 on:** Sun, 06 May 2018, 00:03:17 »

Quote from: Remsky on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:42:38

Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:32:49
Quote from: Remsky on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:28:55
Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:18:51
I know nothing about metal, what's so special about 7075? More scratch resistant? Heavier?
7k series alu is most often used and anodized for the automotive industry because of its strength compared to other aluminum series. 6k series aluminum like 6061 hard anodize really well and 6063 is the go to alloy for cosmetic anodizing. Both series can anodize well, but 7k series has more problems than 6k due to how much zinc is used in the alloy. More zinc means a more brown-like coating.
So 7075 is worse for anodizing? Why is everyone interested in it then? Btw, not trying to be critical or anything, just trying to learn
Its not necessarily worse, its just that the alloy can be harder to work with. There is a noticeable difference between anodized 7075 aluminum and 6061/3 aluminum. A lot of automotive parts that are anodized are made from 7k series aluminum, if you want an example of how it looks.

Here's a post showing the differences. You can see 7075 with a brownish/broze tint. IMO, 7075 has a smoother look to it and gives a better aesthetic despite being more difficult to anodize. This gives rise to an issue with the top case not being the exact same color as the bottom case due to the difficulty in anodizing. Xondat is manufacturing at a very good factory, so it can be assumed that they will be able to properly anodize 7075, but this would not be an option in many other factories.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76672.msg1920149#msg1920149

oh_chesteroni · « **Reply #372 on:** Sun, 06 May 2018, 00:11:37 »

Quote from: p_blaze on Sun, 06 May 2018, 00:03:17

Quote from: Remsky on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:42:38
Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:32:49
Quote from: Remsky on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:28:55
Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:18:51
I know nothing about metal, what's so special about 7075? More scratch resistant? Heavier?
7k series alu is most often used and anodized for the automotive industry because of its strength compared to other aluminum series. 6k series aluminum like 6061 hard anodize really well and 6063 is the go to alloy for cosmetic anodizing. Both series can anodize well, but 7k series has more problems than 6k due to how much zinc is used in the alloy. More zinc means a more brown-like coating.
So 7075 is worse for anodizing? Why is everyone interested in it then? Btw, not trying to be critical or anything, just trying to learn
Its not necessarily worse, its just that the alloy can be harder to work with. There is a noticeable difference between anodized 7075 aluminum and 6061/3 aluminum. A lot of automotive parts that are anodized are made from 7k series aluminum, if you want an example of how it looks.

Here's a post showing the differences. You can see 7075 with a brownish/broze tint. IMO, 7075 has a smoother look to it and gives a better aesthetic despite being more difficult to anodize. This gives rise to an issue with the top case not being the exact same color as the bottom case due to the difficulty in anodizing. Xondat is manufacturing at a very good factory, so it can be assumed that they will be able to properly anodize 7075, but this would not be an option in many other factories.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76672.msg1920149#msg1920149

Thanks for digging this up! The post was extremely informative, and I can definitely tell the difference in smoothness of the ano between 7075 and 6061.

It will be interesting to see if 7075 will be available in this GB and what it will be priced at.

xondat · « **Reply #373 on:** Sun, 06 May 2018, 08:49:47 »

Both factories have finished machining

Etherealsound · « **Reply #374 on:** Sun, 06 May 2018, 12:41:41 »

Quote from: xondat on Sun, 06 May 2018, 08:49:47

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Both factories have finished machining

Hyped! Can't wait for the gb

p_blaze · « **Reply #375 on:** Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:21:36 »

Quote from: xondat on Sun, 06 May 2018, 08:49:47

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Both factories have finished machining

that lighting makes the top looks like acrylic

xondat · « **Reply #376 on:** Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:27:51 »

Quote from: p_blaze on Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:21:36

that lighting makes the top looks like acrylic

That's strange, it's supposed to look like polycarbonate.

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p_blaze · « **Reply #377 on:** Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:50:01 »

Quote from: xondat on Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:27:51

Quote from: p_blaze on Sun, 06 May 2018, 13:21:36
that lighting makes the top looks like acrylic

That's strange, it's supposed to look like polycarbonate. )

potato, tomato lol

nice to see though, a full polycarb 280 sounds interesting

tanvir175 · « **Reply #378 on:** Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:08:20 »

Do you have an ETA on when the GB will start or are you still running 2 GB's and can't do another one?

xondat · « **Reply #379 on:** Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:14:39 »

Quote from: tanvir175 on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:08:20

Do you have an ETA on when the GB will start or are you still running 2 GB's and can't do another one?

Samples should be sent this week.

I won't have any GBs on geekhack when I finish shipping 268, so the 2 GB rule isn't an issue

xondat · « **Reply #380 on:** Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:20:44 »

Oh and just to clarify, 268 (anodized units) will be fully shipped before I start this buy, as I know a lot will want to see the improved quality compared to X60 V1

oh_chesteroni · « **Reply #381 on:** Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:47:00 »

Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:20:44

Oh and just to clarify, 268 (anodized units) will be fully shipped before I start this buy, as I know a lot will want to see the improved quality compared to X60 V1

Can we expect another x60 run near the end of this year or do you think that's likely to happen in 2019?

Sorry, slightly off topic.

xondat · « **Reply #382 on:** Tue, 08 May 2018, 20:01:36 »

Quote from: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:47:00

Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:20:44
Oh and just to clarify, 268 (anodized units) will be fully shipped before I start this buy, as I know a lot will want to see the improved quality compared to X60 V1
Can we expect another x60 run near the end of this year or do you think that's likely to happen in 2019?

Sorry, slightly off topic.

V2 is after this, which should be in about 3-4 months

hansichen · « **Reply #383 on:** Tue, 08 May 2018, 23:19:10 »

Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:14:39

Quote from: tanvir175 on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:08:20
Do you have an ETA on when the GB will start or are you still running 2 GB's and can't do another one?

Samples should be sent this week.

I won't have any GBs on geekhack when I finish shipping 268, so the 2 GB rule isn't an issue

So closing a GB thread before shipping makes a GB non existing on geekhack? Questionable way to avoid a questionable rule.

oh_chesteroni · « **Reply #384 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 00:08:38 »

Quote from: hansichen on Tue, 08 May 2018, 23:19:10

Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:14:39
Quote from: tanvir175 on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:08:20
Do you have an ETA on when the GB will start or are you still running 2 GB's and can't do another one?

Samples should be sent this week.

I won't have any GBs on geekhack when I finish shipping 268, so the 2 GB rule isn't an issue
So closing a GB thread before shipping makes a GB non existing on geekhack? Questionable way to avoid a questionable rule.

? He said when he finishes shipping...

xondat · « **Reply #385 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:59:29 »

Quote from: hansichen on Tue, 08 May 2018, 23:19:10

Quote from: xondat on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:14:39
Quote from: tanvir175 on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:08:20
Do you have an ETA on when the GB will start or are you still running 2 GB's and can't do another one?

Samples should be sent this week.

I won't have any GBs on geekhack when I finish shipping 268, so the 2 GB rule isn't an issue

So closing a GB thread before shipping makes a GB non existing on geekhack? Questionable way to avoid a questionable rule.

I doubt private buys count towards the "questionable" rule. The whole thing seems a bit weird since I've seen others have more than 2 active buys.

Basically, there won't be a delay on this

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Oblotzky · « **Reply #386 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:04:12 »

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:59:29

Basically, there won't be a delay on this )

Mods please pin

xondat · « **Reply #387 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:08:50 »

Quote from: Oblotzky on Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:04:12

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:59:29
Basically, there won't be a delay on this )

Mods please pin

lol don't do me like this

Remsky · « **Reply #388 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 16:05:08 »

Quote from: Oblotzky on Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:04:12

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:59:29
Basically, there won't be a delay on this )

Mods please pin

Should pin this on the front page.

Puddsy · « **Reply #389 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:37:30 »

Quote from: Oblotzky on Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:04:12

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:59:29
Basically, there won't be a delay on this )

Mods please pin

i'm gonna put it in the subreddit sticky

xondat · « **Reply #390 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:42:12 »

Quote from: Puddsy on Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:37:30

Quote from: Oblotzky on Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:04:12
Quote from: xondat on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:59:29
Basically, there won't be a delay on this )

Mods please pin

i'm gonna put it in the subreddit sticky

no balls

Puddsy · « **Reply #391 on:** Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:44:25 »

Quote from: xondat on Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:42:12

Quote from: Puddsy on Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:37:30
Quote from: Oblotzky on Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:04:12
Quote from: xondat on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:59:29
Basically, there won't be a delay on this )

Mods please pin

i'm gonna put it in the subreddit sticky

no balls