it is coming... SA RETRO!

[Supergeek]

Group buy quality and reliability just jumped 1000%!

SP is still going to be handling production, right? So having another middleman does what? I know it probably saves Matt3o labor, but a middleman taking a percentage probably also increases the bottom line for us purchasers, unless CtrlAlt somehow can negotiate a better rate, which sounds unlikely to me.

[Baxter]

Group buy quality and reliability just jumped 1000%!

SP is still going to be handling production, right? So having another middleman does what? I know it probably saves Matt3o labor, but a middleman taking a percentage probably also increases the bottom line for us purchasers, unless CtrlAlt somehow can negotiate a better rate, which sounds unlikely to me.

I've never seen any indication of MOQ on CtrlAlt whereas I'm hesitant to use PMK lest the ISO or a speciality kit I intend to use fails to tip.

[TD22057]

I'm guessing saving labor is the point. I can't imagine sorting,  boxing,  and shipping all those kits.

[awhitedev]

I hear rumors of a bonus kit on PMK...

I would love to see Vault 13, Vault 101, and Nuka Cola legends...

And, if anyone dares to attempt it, I would love to see this as a doubleshot for this set:

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Firefly/Serenity/Browncoats all the way baby!

 :thumb:

I second this! Particularly those firefly caps!

[shrubkeys]

Don't know if the "Apple Kit" is still being called the "Apple ][ Kit", but FWIW there was no Command or Option back on the Apple II's. Command was "Open Apple" and Option "Closed Apple" - with icons of an apple outline and an apple infill, respectively. Whether they belong in the in the Apple (Mac) kit or a novelty kit is beyond my paygrade, but they're certainly in-theme...

http://www.applefritter.com/files/IMG_5573.jpg

[Matt3o]

Don't know if the "Apple Kit" is still being called the "Apple ][ Kit", but FWIW there was no Command or Option back on the Apple II's. Command was "Open Apple" and Option "Closed Apple" - with icons of an apple outline and an apple infill, respectively. Whether they belong in the in the Apple (Mac) kit or a novelty kit is beyond my paygrade, but they're certainly in-theme...

http://www.applefritter.com/files/IMG_5573.jpg

Indeed it is called "Apple kit", it is meant for modern keyboards.

Group buy quality and reliability just jumped 1000%!

SP is still going to be handling production, right? So having another middleman does what? I know it probably saves Matt3o labor, but a middleman taking a percentage probably also increases the bottom line for us purchasers, unless CtrlAlt somehow can negotiate a better rate, which sounds unlikely to me.

1) It is not going to cost you more. 2) you'll get a better service

How about some with the PETSCII graphics symbols on them?

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Alternate core alphas would be cool but I'm not sure about non-centred text placement being possible, or even a small selection with symbols semi-suitable for pgup,dn,home,end and such.

something like:

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Those are all new legends (pretty expensive). What about some side printed keys instead?

[Baxter]

Don't know if the "Apple Kit" is still being called the "Apple ][ Kit", but FWIW there was no Command or Option back on the Apple II's. Command was "Open Apple" and Option "Closed Apple" - with icons of an apple outline and an apple infill, respectively. Whether they belong in the in the Apple (Mac) kit or a novelty kit is beyond my paygrade, but they're certainly in-theme...

http://www.applefritter.com/files/IMG_5573.jpg

Indeed it is called "Apple kit", it is meant for modern keyboards.

Group buy quality and reliability just jumped 1000%!

SP is still going to be handling production, right? So having another middleman does what? I know it probably saves Matt3o labor, but a middleman taking a percentage probably also increases the bottom line for us purchasers, unless CtrlAlt somehow can negotiate a better rate, which sounds unlikely to me.

1) It is not going to cost you more. 2) you'll get a better service

How about some with the PETSCII graphics symbols on them?

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Alternate core alphas would be cool but I'm not sure about non-centred text placement being possible, or even a small selection with symbols semi-suitable for pgup,dn,home,end and such.

something like:

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Those are all new legends (pretty expensive). What about some side printed keys instead?

That would be so sexy I'd pass out.

[Supergeek]

Side printed PETSCII would be flipping incredible.

[shrubkeys]

Indeed it is called "Apple kit", it is meant for modern keyboards.

I take it back - PETSCII might be cooler than open-apple. Though less iconic. And for a given definition of the word "cool."

Unrelatedly, any love for those of us with off-centered stems that need stepped caps (like in DSA Retro)?

[Elrick]

yes the color scheme is the same, except the white is a little more creamy now.

Coming really soon!

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After seeing this what can be said except this is going to be the ABSOLUTE BEST colour-way and authentic rendition of an 'old-style' key-set EVER.

Every time I come here and see this key-set it builds up the tension and enthusiasm for this latest colour-way, in fact it creates excitement amongst the oldies here who still remember the great Amiga PC, all those years ago.

Have to now go release some of this excitement away from the monitor, and deliver a free pearl necklace on the Mrs, I blame you matt3o for making me do this, yet again.

[unoab]

Those are all new legends (pretty expensive). What about some side printed keys instead?

SA... with side printing... yes please!

Maybe as an option as some might find them busy, but I think they would look quite cool:
http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/well-what-do-you-lot-think-t8039.html

[Matt3o]

I'll try to a ask a quote for the side printed legends. I don't know if we should go full alpha or just some keys here and there (number row maybe?).

[Oobly]

Side printed PETSCII would be flipping incredible.

I don't want this. I don't want a bunch of legends on my caps that mean nothing to me.

Apple Keys should have an open apple and a closed apple like the original Apple II.

[Baxter]

I'll try to a ask a quote for the side printed legends. I don't know if we should go full alpha or just some keys here and there (number row maybe?).

I'd be much more for an accurate full alpha bonus pack but could live with an *interesting* num or f row.

[Matt3o]

Side printed PETSCII would be flipping incredible.

I don't want this. I don't want a bunch of legends on my caps that mean nothing to me.

Apple Keys should have an open apple and a closed apple like the original Apple II.

we are talking about a bonus pack, completely optional.

[atectatifern]

I would be all over a PETSCII side-printed set!

[Oobly]

Side printed PETSCII would be flipping incredible.

I don't want this. I don't want a bunch of legends on my caps that mean nothing to me.

Apple Keys should have an open apple and a closed apple like the original Apple II.

we are talking about a bonus pack, completely optional.

Ah, gotcha. In that case, go for it!

Yes, SP can do side pad printing on SA caps, at least that's what I was told when I enquired about some cap options. Not sure about custom legends and any extra costs involved there, though.

[Baxter]

Yes, SP can do side pad printing on SA caps, at least that's what I was told when I enquired about some cap options. Not sure about custom legends and any extra costs involved there, though.

I don't ever recall seeing this done by SP outside of grab-bags have any other buys taken advantage of it?

[unoab]

Yes, SP can do side pad printing on SA caps, at least that's what I was told when I enquired about some cap options. Not sure about custom legends and any extra costs involved there, though.

I don't ever recall seeing this done by SP outside of grab-bags have any other buys taken advantage of it?

Commando 23 did on the return, print screen, and break keys
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0

[samwisekoi]

Hey Matt3o!  I am back after 40 days in the wilderness.  This looks really nice!  Just today I put a Retro DSA set on my JD45.


Non-SA Retro 'caps on samwisekoi's JD45 prototype.

I have not gone through all 10 pages of your post yet, but it seems like you are staying with TBN, RBC, and VAV, which I think is still a great color combo.  I'll catch up to find out for sure.

Since this is going through Ctrl|Alt, are blank kits possible? That would make things like the JD45 easier.

Please let me know if I can help in any way.

Best regards,

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[HelixDan]

Long key in ergodox kit is otaku?   

[Matt3o]

Hey Matt3o!  I am back after 40 days in the wilderness.  This looks really nice!  Just today I put a Retro DSA set on my JD45.

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Non-SA Retro 'caps on samwisekoi's JD45 prototype.

I have not gone through all 10 pages of your post yet, but it seems like you are staying with TBN, RBC, and VAV, which I think is still a great color combo.  I'll catch up to find out for sure.

Since this is going through Ctrl|Alt, are blank kits possible? That would make things like the JD45 easier.

Please let me know if I can help in any way.

Hey samwisekoi, glad to finally see you here! I didn't want to bother you I knew you were busy.

The color combo is the same but this time I'm using WCK as white. Unfortunately we won't have blacks (apart from 1u) but we are toying with the idea of running a bonus pack on PMK.

[Matt3o]

going live in few hours!

[Data]

going live in few hours!

Awesome.

[bubbedi]

Looking forward!

[awhitedev]

It's alive! https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro

[Baxter]

Woo, yay and indeed houpla.

[bubbedi]

Order placed!

[TLExile]

YES

[Matt3o]

hold on with that F5!

[Supergeek]

Now I have to figure out if it's worth $115 to get what I want... 

[FuriousGeorge]

And I just spent way more than I should have on the granite buy on MD. Why does this have to look so good?

Any chance of a 4.5 unit space bar getting added to either the small space bar set or separately?

[Supergeek]

Anyone getting the lime set that doesn't want the cursors? 

[MAR82]

Now I have to figure out if it's worth $115 to get what I want... 

$115?
Lucky you, I'm at $193 

[Baxter]

hold on with that F5!

You made this monster.

Now I have to figure out if it's worth $115 to get what I want... 

$115?
Lucky you, I'm at $193 

£? yeah that's about right.

[Cafeine]

150 dollars and I don't even have MX keyboards. :x

[Elrick]

Now I have to figure out if it's worth $115 to get what I want... 

$115?
Lucky you, I'm at $193 

Lucky Devils because I'm stuck in the $566.00USD camp, the Mrs is NOW pestering me to knock back my key-sets love affair with Geekhack Central.

First time she's done it so I'm surprised with this new behaviour that's coming out of her, quite disturbing.........

[Data]

Now I have to figure out if it's worth $115 to get what I want... 

$115?
Lucky you, I'm at $193 

Lucky Devils because I'm stuck in the $566.00USD camp, the Mrs is NOW pestering me to knock back my key-sets love affair with Geekhack Central.

First time she's done it so I'm surprised with this new behaviour that's coming out of her, quite disturbing.........

Jesus, dude...

[mashby]

What sizes are the returns in for the Lime set? They seem rather small.

[Matt3o]

What sizes are the returns in for the Lime set? They seem rather small.

1.5 and 1.75. the big one is in the base kit

[mashby]

What sizes are the returns in for the Lime set? They seem rather small.

1.5 and 1.75. the big one is in the base kit

Thanks Matt3o. My (lack of) attention to detail astounds even me.

[Matt3o]

no worries, let's keep the conversation rolling on https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71636

[Slavfot]

Why is there no Brown or Burgundy ISO-Enter? That's the only thing making me hesitate to make an order.

[Matt3o]

because ISO enters are expensive and there's not enough interest in ISO kits.