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Offline phedd

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« Reply #50 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 11:05:43 »
Really like it but since "Any INTL kit other than UK? Sorry but no" - perhaps offer the mods in a standalone kit too?

I would buy that, and use with alphas from some other kit.

A shame no Norde though :( Why has iso uk become the default iso layout? If only having one, iso de would make more sense. Much more overlap with other European layouts.

If you check closely on the ISO UK kit, it's incomplete because there is no "$ 4 €" key due to the japanese sublegend. NorDe kit is full of those kind of keys and it would definitely denaturate the aesthetic of the keyset. As french, if this would have been possible i'd add a AZERTY FR/BE kit too (even if i never use it).

Ah, I see your logic now. Not sure I agree but ok. You could skip the third character, the "AltGr" characters and not having to denaturate the aestetic.

Like, I'm Swedish. We have 2"@, 4¤$, +?\, <>| etc. Just 2", 4¤,+? would be completely fine. Lots of other kits have made that choice.

But your choice. I put in my opinion because I this kit looks so great and I want it :)

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« Reply #51 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 11:14:24 »
Busy in the greatest way. Really really fund design. Good Luck!
This set might benefit from Icon mods. This way it will match all of the different options you are offering. I still think it looks fantastic.

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« Reply #52 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 11:22:20 »
Add windowed keys, please  ;)

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« Reply #53 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 11:49:52 »
man this looks great

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« Reply #54 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 03:20:02 »
I added the physical 40% compat on the base kit, i wonder how you feel about it? I read some good feedbacks on this addition on several recent GBs.

So, the physical compatibility is specifically recommended for GMK keycap sets. This is due to the 100 unit MOQ on GMK child kits paired with the higher costs of GMK sets. As there is no MOQ on ePBT child kits and they are very affordable, there is no reason to not offer a full kit over a very compromised base kit inclusion.

If you want assistance in figuring out what to include in a 40s kit feel free to message me on Discord (dededecline#0001) or pop into the 40% discord keycap design channel, we're happy to help https://discord.gg/40percent
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« Reply #55 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 03:34:45 »
Please consider adding a 40s kit and adding 2x 3u spacebars. ePBT 40s kits have had a lot of success and ePBT's MOQ is very friendly to child kits

I'm so in if there's hiragana mods in the 40s kit

For reference of what's achievable you can see the size, compatibility, and sales of my 40s kit for Aesthetic https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111589

I'll add onto this, the whole reason for going 3keys to support 40s is that gmk pricing is honestly horrible. A big huge kit that supports everything costs half as much as the already overpriced keyset. As ddds aesthetic has shown you can support 40s twice over and still be under the budget of a gmk set. So to not do a proper 40s kit with epbt would be very disappointing  and I hope you can reconsider as the set looks amazing now that I have seen it.

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« Reply #56 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 03:49:57 »
I love this! I'm in.

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« Reply #57 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 04:07:54 »
Please consider adding a 40s kit and adding 2x 3u spacebars. ePBT 40s kits have had a lot of success and ePBT's MOQ is very friendly to child kits

I'm so in if there's hiragana mods in the 40s kit

For reference of what's achievable you can see the size, compatibility, and sales of my 40s kit for Aesthetic https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111589

I'll add onto this, the whole reason for going 3keys to support 40s is that gmk pricing is honestly horrible. A big huge kit that supports everything costs half as much as the already overpriced keyset. As ddds aesthetic has shown you can support 40s twice over and still be under the budget of a gmk set. So to not do a proper 40s kit with epbt would be very disappointing  and I hope you can reconsider as the set looks amazing now that I have seen it.

I added the physical 40% compat on the base kit, i wonder how you feel about it? I read some good feedbacks on this addition on several recent GBs.

So, the physical compatibility is specifically recommended for GMK keycap sets. This is due to the 100 unit MOQ on GMK child kits paired with the higher costs of GMK sets. As there is no MOQ on ePBT child kits and they are very affordable, there is no reason to not offer a full kit over a very compromised base kit inclusion.

If you want assistance in figuring out what to include in a 40s kit feel free to message me on Discord (dededecline#0001) or pop into the 40% discord keycap design channel, we're happy to help https://discord.gg/40percent

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« Reply #58 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 15:19:12 »
Just a quick update i added UK and USA proxies :)

UK: Prototypist
USA: Mechs & Co

Updated the ToDo section of the IC.

New kits coming:

40 Kit
JIS Kit

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« Reply #59 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 17:48:29 »
Just a quick update i added UK and USA proxies :)

UK: Prototypist
USA: Mechs & Co

Updated the ToDo section of the IC.

New kits coming:

40 Kit
JIS Kit

awesome! if you need any examples of an epbt jis kit, i'm working on a keyset with one right now. can forward you my kitting if it makes stuff easier.

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« Reply #60 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 17:53:03 »
This is pretty cool

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« Reply #61 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 04:16:01 »
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« Reply #62 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 04:45:22 »
Never thought I’d be following an ePBT set. GLWIC.

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« Reply #63 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 11:59:14 »
Great looking set, I'm probably in if it makes to GB.
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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 15 April 2021, 00:24:16 »
In like Flynn

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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 16 April 2021, 02:56:53 »
As a newbie to keycap sets, and at the risk of being somewhat dense -- How do I make sure I get in on this order?

I went to the US link for Mechs & Co and didn't see an obvious (to me) link there. I did put myself on the waiting list at kdfans.com, but not sure if that's any kind of guarantee of getting a set, or a help in getting this into production.

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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 16 April 2021, 03:48:56 »
As a newbie to keycap sets, and at the risk of being somewhat dense -- How do I make sure I get in on this order?

I went to the US link for Mechs & Co and didn't see an obvious (to me) link there. I did put myself on the waiting list at kdfans.com, but not sure if that's any kind of guarantee of getting a set, or a help in getting this into production.

If and when this goes into group buy, it'll be announced in this space. Then you'll have a window of a few weeks to get your order in from the vendor of your choice. Joining the waiting list at kbdfans just signs you up for you an email notification once the group buy is live.

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« Reply #67 on: Fri, 16 April 2021, 04:26:04 »

If and when this goes into group buy, it'll be announced in this space. Then you'll have a window of a few weeks to get your order in from the vendor of your choice. Joining the waiting list at kbdfans just signs you up for you an email notification once the group buy is live.


Got it. Thanks for the info!
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« Reply #68 on: Sun, 18 April 2021, 05:37:03 »
Love this set. Front facing legends are so dope !

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« Reply #69 on: Mon, 19 April 2021, 03:16:13 »
This feels very nostalgic for me. I'm definitely feeling this set!

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« Reply #70 on: Mon, 19 April 2021, 16:00:57 »
Is this kit with the colors even possible with GMK? Since you know, they don't do triple shot?

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« Reply #71 on: Mon, 19 April 2021, 18:57:13 »
Is this kit with the colors even possible with GMK? Since you know, they don't do triple shot?

That's why this set is ePBT  :thumb:

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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 19 April 2021, 21:45:07 »
very nice. the front legends are awesome

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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 19 April 2021, 23:52:03 »
Don't know how I'm late to this party but **** YEAH 40's in base and ePBT and side legends.

e; oh it looks like you're going full 40's kit. Also fine.
« Last Edit: Mon, 19 April 2021, 23:58:59 by paperassgasket »

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« Reply #74 on: Tue, 20 April 2021, 12:34:19 »
I think most would probably agree with this, but the scroll lock should definitely have an led window, or at least there should be both in the base if some don't want it. I think the scroll lock where it is without side printing breaks up the "business" of the top legend with side printing nav keys that make this set look so unique. The scroll led would just add more to that unique look.

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« Reply #75 on: Tue, 20 April 2021, 12:53:17 »
I think most would probably agree with this, but the scroll lock should definitely have an led window, or at least there should be both in the base if some don't want it. I think the scroll lock where it is without side printing breaks up the "business" of the top legend with side printing nav keys that make this set look so unique. The scroll led would just add more to that unique look.

Windowed keys kit will be added

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« Reply #76 on: Wed, 21 April 2021, 14:48:56 »
Will sublegends be added to R3 keys for ISO-UK? (@ ') + (# ~)

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« Reply #77 on: Wed, 21 April 2021, 14:56:09 »
Will sublegends be added to R3 keys for ISO-UK? (@ ') + (# ~)

Yes, but the # ~  will have the same sublegend as | \ which is む

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« Reply #78 on: Thu, 22 April 2021, 14:49:00 »
Will sublegends be added to R3 keys for ISO-UK? (@ ') + (# ~)

Yes, but the # ~  will have the same sublegend as | \ which is む

Not sure if I'm being daft, but then wouldn't the UK-ISO set be missing ろ ? As it wouldn't be able to fit on ` ¬ , but on the base kit ろ is moved to < > on R4?

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« Reply #79 on: Thu, 22 April 2021, 14:51:42 »
Will sublegends be added to R3 keys for ISO-UK? (@ ') + (# ~)

Yes, but the # ~  will have the same sublegend as | \ which is む

Not sure if I'm being daft, but then wouldn't the UK-ISO set be missing ろ ? As it wouldn't be able to fit on ` ¬ , but on the base kit ろ is moved to < > on R4?

Indeed you're right.

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« Reply #80 on: Sun, 25 April 2021, 14:49:57 »
Hello,

Here are the revisited kits. (will update the renders after)
Japanese legends have been reviewed with the help of kidviddy
Adapted base / spacebars to fit with the addition of 40 kit.
added windowed keys kit
Switched "code" to "System" to fit more the main theme.

Feel free to comment. Thanks for the support of this project :thumb:









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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 25 April 2021, 15:48:22 »
100% buying these god damn. That colorway is just amazing and the side printed legends are so sweet.
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« Reply #82 on: Mon, 26 April 2021, 20:44:34 »
yaaaas, 40s kit looks good

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« Reply #83 on: Mon, 26 April 2021, 23:18:14 »
WAPURO THE REVIVAL!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 05:17:25 »
Love it all and thank you for UK ISO.
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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 09:18:34 »
Loving the new kits, especially the Windowed! Gonna be begging a little here, chance for a mod colour ` ¬ ¦ for the UK ISO kit?  ;)

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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 11:00:30 »
think i found the perfect keeb/color to complement this set:

Honeyboard60
 

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« Reply #87 on: Wed, 28 April 2021, 09:52:36 »
Is this just an ePBT copy of the default Keychron keycaps?

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« Reply #88 on: Wed, 28 April 2021, 10:01:49 »
Is this just an ePBT copy of the default Keychron keycaps?

I lol'd, but no, not even close.


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« Reply #89 on: Wed, 28 April 2021, 10:35:17 »
Is this just an ePBT copy of the default Keychron keycaps?

looks closer to this*, especially with side printed legends (and referenced by OP with approval from original runner):



also, a few kitting comments ...
  • TEXT kit does not have a (mod and/or accent colored) Esc key i see it is in revised kit!
  • ALPHA colored spaced bars (6.25u and 7u) are only available in BASE kit - mod colored available but not ideal imo
  • NUMPAD does not have kana legends (possible to side print?)
... because of the first two bullet points, it is not cost effective to assemble a keyboard with KANA and TEXT kits. the third bullet point is just an observation.


* last post was 09/30/2019 - glad to see this set resurrected, glad it's not a 2 year wait for GMK  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Sat, 01 May 2021, 16:02:44 by azzipa »

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« Reply #90 on: Thu, 29 April 2021, 12:08:17 »
This looks lovely. Will be watching

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« Reply #91 on: Fri, 30 April 2021, 07:37:45 »
Thank you so much for changing Code to System. I'm in.

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« Reply #92 on: Fri, 30 April 2021, 19:03:51 »
Love the looks and 10/10 love to see the 2x 3u spacebars being in the works.
« Last Edit: Fri, 30 April 2021, 19:06:40 by Harue »

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« Reply #93 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 10:55:03 »
First post, i'm 100% in.

Couple questions:
- the arrow keys from the original wapuro (the grey from the base kit and the orange ones from the novelties) were a nice detail, can you add them?
- why not ISO kit apart from UK?

Thanks for this revival!

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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 13:32:47 »
- the arrow keys from the original wapuro (the grey from the base kit and the orange ones from the novelties) were a nice detail, can you add them
- why not ISO kit apart from UK?

Thanks for this revival!

Good catch! Will add those

- why not ISO kit apart from UK?

Already answered this question here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112196.msg3035920#msg3035920

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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 14:13:53 »
@zekth is there any chance that alpha colored space bars (6.25u and 7u) will be available in a kit OTHER than base?

i am really interested in kana and text kits however i would need the base kit just for space bars since i would prefer not to use mod colored space bars. definitely a pricey option since i only want the 7u.

maybe there's another way to drive numbers to hit MOQ?


ps - @rubenx, nice catch on the arrows!

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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 14:18:38 »
@zekth is there any chance that alpha colored space bars (6.25u and 7u) will be available in a kit OTHER than base?

i am really interested in kana and text kits however i would need the base kit just for space bars since i would prefer not to use mod colored space bars. definitely a pricey option since i only want the 7u.

maybe there's another way to drive numbers to hit MOQ?


ps - @rubenx, nice catch on the arrows!


Technically it makes sense yeah but doing this you'll not have the F-row.

MOQ is only on the base-kit.

I forgot to add it, but 6.25 and 7u are in Kana kit now also

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Offline azzipa

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Wapuro - THE REVIVAL
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 17:56:56 »
@zekth is there any chance that alpha colored space bars (6.25u and 7u) will be available in a kit OTHER than base?

i am really interested in kana and text kits however i would need the base kit just for space bars since i would prefer not to use mod colored space bars. definitely a pricey option since i only want the 7u.

maybe there's another way to drive numbers to hit MOQ?


ps - @rubenx, nice catch on the arrows!


Technically it makes sense yeah but doing this you'll not have the F-row.

MOQ is only on the base-kit.

I forgot to add it, but 6.25 and 7u are in Kana kit now also
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with space bars in kana i can shut up and stop asking stupid questions (none of my boards have an f-row so all good!).

Offline Daltron2000

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Wapuro - THE REVIVAL
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 22:01:58 »
First post. This looks awesome. I'm 100% in.

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« Reply #99 on: Tue, 04 May 2021, 06:15:48 »
Totally in on this!