Author Topic: Tenkeyless ALPS models from Matias — USB for PC, Bluetooth for Mac (Read 18589 times)

Matias · « **on:** Wed, 09 January 2013, 08:59:46 »

Info and video, courtesy of Engadget...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/matias-mini-quiet-laptop-pro

These use our dampened Quiet Click switches, based on the ALPS design. Ordering and product details can be found here...

http://matias.ca/quietpro

Let me know if there are questions.

iri · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 09 January 2013, 09:30:24 »

yes! yes! yesssssss!!!!111111

iri · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 09 January 2013, 09:36:37 »

fukken ordered!

fatmav · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu, 10 January 2013, 13:01:08 »

Have anyone seen the actual Force-Travel diagram of the quiet switches used in these keyboards? It's easy to find those diagrams for Cherry switches, but I have no luck for these so far.

(For example, a diagram for cherry ML can be found here: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/ml_force.gif )

Thanks!

daerid · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu, 10 January 2013, 13:05:15 »

That guy has horrible typing technique.

PS: Will you guys ever release a PC version of the Tactile Pro? I'd absolutely love a NON silenced version of that mini PC board.

daerid · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu, 10 January 2013, 15:12:54 »

Quote from: dante on Thu, 10 January 2013, 14:30:06

Wouldn't it be more logistically simple to offer DIP switches on the bottom that toggle between PC/Mac modes - and include a keypuller and relevant keycaps of the other OS?

That's a brilliant idea, but unfortunately I think it would cannibalize sales.

ValerieV · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu, 10 January 2013, 19:11:03 »

I would buy it in a second if they had clicky keys. BUT, in the video the guy clearly is typing on a mini clicky keyboard. Do you have it? I am buying it if you do. Thanks.

Burz · « **Reply #7 on:** Fri, 11 January 2013, 00:28:03 »

The DIP switch idea really makes sense for a smallish portable keyboard, since its more likely to be carried around between Macs and PCs by the same user.

polpo · « **Reply #8 on:** Fri, 11 January 2013, 00:31:35 »

Quote from: ValerieV on Thu, 10 January 2013, 19:11:03

I would buy it in a second if they had clicky keys. BUT, in the video the guy clearly is typing on a mini clicky keyboard. Do you have it? I am buying it if you do. Thanks.

There's the Mini Tactile Pro: http://matias.ca/minitactilepro/mac/
Mac layout only for now, it looks like.

ValerieV · « **Reply #9 on:** Fri, 11 January 2013, 16:25:31 »

Why wouldn't they make that keyboard Bluetooth? It makes no sense. But i credit Matias for getting a jump on the competition for having a Bluetooth, USB port tenkeyless keyboard. DAS is too slow on advancing their keyboard that i wouldn't waste my time with them unless they do something soon.

deepthawt · « **Reply #10 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 10:23:53 »

looking at the matias mini quiet pro

Tenkeyless ALPS models from Matias — USB for PC, Bluetooth for Mac

I love the layout, the choice of keys at corners where fingers can home in on.
pgup and pgdn conveniently located.
But I am puzzled, Y.O.Y are there two 2! OS keys instead of 1 OS key and 1 menu key.
That is beyond my understanding and I rarely if ever use the menu key anyway, but still...

<sarcasm>^{.oO(I wonder if it has two multimedia STOP buttons and no PAUSE button.)}</sarcasm>

I intend to ~~protest this absurdity and~~ get one anyway, because it is frankly IMHO gorgeous, functional and considerate and I will learn to overlook this quirk.

matias mini quiet pro mmMMMmm

FoxWolf1 · « **Reply #11 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:19:03 »

Quote from: deepthawt on Sat, 26 January 2013, 10:23:53

I rarely if ever use the menu key anyway

Reckon you may have answered your own question there...

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #12 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 12:41:56 »

SwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwEeeeet!!!

And the Laptop Pro for Mac... Does it mean no wireless version for PC?

deepthawt · « **Reply #13 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 12:51:20 »

Quote from: FoxWolf1 on Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:19:03

Reckon you may have answered your own question there...

LOL Indeed! i did.

At work i'm using a model M 1391401, which has neither OSkey nor Menu key , and I get by with Ctrl+Esc and Shift+F10

I have 2 keyboards on my wish list, this one and a Model M compact.
maybe i'll nickname then whisper and shout

edit:
ok, i couldn't stand it anymore, I went to the matias.ca site and pre-ordered one.
it was the 'free shipping' on pre-orders that pushed me over the edge
.

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #14 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 16:53:36 »

Quote from Matias site http://matias.ca/miniquietpro/pc/

"Available in Japan from Diatec (Filco)"

Kewl - That's pretty neat.

Pyrolistical · « **Reply #15 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 20:04:05 »

When are these things shipping? I know it said early feb but any updates?

Oddly I was already charged for it. That's not standard practise

fatmav · « **Reply #16 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 20:13:05 »

I too noticed that they charged my card already. The pre-order confirmation email says mid-Feb:

Quote

Thank you for your pre-order of our new Matias keyboard.
As per the description on our order page, this keyboard is not yet in
stock and will be sent with free shipping via UPS as soon as the stock
arrives in mid February.

ValerieV · « **Reply #17 on:** Sat, 26 January 2013, 21:02:39 »

Just in time for my birthday on the February 16. How pathetic that i have to buy my own birthday gift.

iri · « **Reply #18 on:** Sun, 27 January 2013, 09:19:25 »

they did charge my card too. didn't know i'd have to wait for mid february for it to be shipped.

ValerieV · « **Reply #19 on:** Sun, 27 January 2013, 09:56:28 »

Matias has wonderful customer support. They admitted from the beginning that it wouldn't be ready until mid-Feb so i will be waiting anxiously for it. I give a lot of credit to Matias for making a compact keyboard. I wish they made the Tactile one Bluetooth or wireless but maybe some day they will.

daerid · « **Reply #20 on:** Sun, 27 January 2013, 15:16:38 »

I use the menu key all the freaking time. I wish that Windows had the ability to do device-specific remapping :-|

Hyde · « **Reply #21 on:** Sun, 27 January 2013, 16:44:15 »

Man the Mini Tactile Pro looks really good

Matias · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 03:59:23 »

Quote from: Pyrolistical on Sat, 26 January 2013, 20:04:05

When are these things shipping? I know it said early feb but any updates?

The February production run of the Bluetooth model is sold out, so we're now taking pre-orders for March on that one. The Wall Street Journal reviewed it on Saturday, and the resulting sales pushed us over the edge. :-)

The USB models are still available for February.

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Oddly I was already charged for it. That's not standard practise

Sorry about that. It's a limitation of our online store provider (Kagi). If you'd rather have it billed when it ships, just call us and place your order over the phone -- and mention that you want it charged only when it ships.

gameaholic · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 10:15:57 »

Might have to pick up my first alps board. Anyone with experience with both switches have a preference? I don't care that much about noise.

deltr · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 15:44:20 »

Quote from: daerid on Thu, 10 January 2013, 13:05:15

That guy has horrible typing technique.

QFT

Also, that design left it shaped like it is the top half of a laptop.. like it would connect to a macbook keyboard to create some sort of monster..

polpo · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:04:38 »

Hilarious 'shop, deltr.

The design comes from Matias's original Tactile Pro keyboard, which is is a reference to Apple's original USB keyboards:

Which are themselves a reference to Apple's Keyboard II:

deltr · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:17:24 »

Quote from: polpo on Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:04:38

Hilarious 'shop, deltr.

The design comes from Matias's original Tactile Pro keyboard, which is is a reference to Apple's original USB keyboards

Haha, it all makes sense now!

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 18:30:03 »

Quote from: Matias on Tue, 29 January 2013, 03:59:23

The USB models are still available for February.

Stock minus one... Just ordered mine.

Quote from: ValerieV on Sun, 27 January 2013, 09:56:28

Matias has wonderful customer support.

+1 -> I suspected a KRO problem when I got my full size Quiet Pro. It turned out to be the KVM's fault.
Meanwhile Matias provided immediate support to investigate the problem.

Dirty Bint · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 18:42:43 »

Will the mini quiet pro be available with UK layout?

ValerieV · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue, 29 January 2013, 19:36:12 »

Quote from: BucklingSpring on Tue, 29 January 2013, 18:30:03

Quote from: Matias on Tue, 29 January 2013, 03:59:23
The USB models are still available for February.

Stock minus one... Just ordered mine.

Quote from: ValerieV on Sun, 27 January 2013, 09:56:28
Matias has wonderful customer support.

+1 -> I suspected a KRO problem when I got my full size Quiet Pro. It turned out to be the KVM's fault.
Meanwhile Matias provided immediate support to investigate the problem.

I had a problem getting the wrong keyboard from Matias and i vented my frustration on this website and the Matias moderator intervened and helped point me in the right direction for help. This site is awesome and so is Matias! That is why they are going to be getting more of my money. It's a win win.

Dirty Bint · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 11:13:12 »

I will repeat my question:

Will the mini quiet pro be available with UK layout?

polpo · « **Reply #31 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:38:14 »

Matias says in this post that they'll do the Laptop Pro in UK if The Keyboard Company decides to carry them. I assume the same for the Mini Quiet Pro. So asking The Keyboard Company probably will help.

Hyde · « **Reply #32 on:** Wed, 30 January 2013, 18:22:36 »

Kinda a weird question but... how do you pronounce "Matias". Is it "mah-tee-ahh-sss" or "mah-t-eye-yaa-sss"?

Matias · « **Reply #33 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 00:28:27 »

Quote from: dante on Tue, 29 January 2013, 09:33:13

Matias : update on blank keycaps?

We're gearing up for the switches now. Should be ready to ship next week.

The keycaps will have to wait until after Chinese New Year -- March.

Quote from: ValerieV on Fri, 11 January 2013, 16:25:31

Why wouldn't they make that keyboard Bluetooth? It makes no sense. But i credit Matias for getting a jump on the competition for having a Bluetooth, USB port tenkeyless keyboard. DAS is too slow on advancing their keyboard that i wouldn't waste my time with them unless they do something soon.

When we started working on the Mini Tactile Pro, there was a lot of debate as to whether it should be Bluetooth or USB. It was a close call. Ultimately, we chose to go with USB because the Tactile Pro was USB, and the Mini gave us a small and wired option for the Mac, while the Laptop Pro served as the small wireless option.

Having said all that, we are always open to feedback, so if anyone has strong feelings either way, feel free to vent them here. :-)

Quote from: deepthawt on Sat, 26 January 2013, 10:23:53

looking at the matias mini quiet pro

(Attachment Link)

I love the layout, the choice of keys at corners where fingers can home in on.
pgup and pgdn conveniently located.
But I am puzzled, Y.O.Y are there two 2! OS keys instead of 1 OS key and 1 menu key.
That is beyond my understanding and I rarely if ever use the menu key anyway, but still...

This was another compromise we made. For Mac users who want a wired or black Mini Quiet Pro, having 2 Win/OS keys makes it easy for it to serve double-duty as a Mac keyboard.

If you want that right Win/OS key to be a Menu key, it's easy enough to remap using AutoHotkey.

The other option would be to use Shift+F10 instead (as deepthawt suggested).

Quote from: Dirty Bint on Tue, 29 January 2013, 18:42:43

Will the mini quiet pro be available with UK layout?

Yes, and you can thank The Keyboard Company for that. They placed Mini Quiet Pro orders for UK, German, and Nordic layouts.

Quote from: Hyde on Wed, 30 January 2013, 18:22:36

Kinda a weird question but... how do you pronounce "Matias". Is it "mah-tee-ahh-sss" or "mah-t-eye-yaa-sss"?

There are a few different ways you can pronounce it, but probably the easiest is "muh-tie-us". :-)

Matias · « **Reply #34 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 00:49:26 »

Quote from: ValerieV on Tue, 29 January 2013, 19:36:12

Quote from: BucklingSpring on Tue, 29 January 2013, 18:30:03
Quote from: ValerieV on Sun, 27 January 2013, 09:56:28
Matias has wonderful customer support.

+1 -> I suspected a KRO problem when I got my full size Quiet Pro. It turned out to be the KVM's fault.
Meanwhile Matias provided immediate support to investigate the problem.

I had a problem getting the wrong keyboard from Matias and i vented my frustration on this website and the Matias moderator intervened and helped point me in the right direction for help. This site is awesome and so is Matias! That is why they are going to be getting more of my money. It's a win win.

Glad you both had positive experiences -- and thanks for saying so! We try to take good care of everyone.

Regarding KVM switches, they are a bit of a headache when used with keyboards that have built-in hubs. If anyone has had success with any particular model, please let me know, so I can pass the info along.

Matias · « **Reply #35 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 00:58:12 »

Quote from: polpo on Tue, 29 January 2013, 17:04:38

Hilarious 'shop, deltr.

The design comes from Matias's original Tactile Pro keyboard, which is is a reference to Apple's original USB keyboards:
Show Image

Which are themselves a reference to Apple's Keyboard II:
Show Image

Yes, the lineage is pretty clear. :-)

Having the top edge inset makes it easier to accommodate plugs into the hub -- you don't have to worry about them poking out the side, and interfering with your mouse.

Hyde · « **Reply #36 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:38:40 »

Quote from: Matias on Thu, 31 January 2013, 00:28:27

There are a few different ways you can pronounce it, but probably the easiest is "muh-tie-us". :-)

Cool thanks now I'm ready for the Matias Tour

Quote from: daerid on Thu, 10 January 2013, 13:05:15

PS: Will you guys ever release a PC version of the Tactile Pro? I'd absolutely love a NON silenced version of that mini PC board.

lol I'm actually interested in a full size PC version Tactile Pro

Matias · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 31 January 2013, 18:47:06 »

Quote from: Hyde on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:38:40

Quote from: daerid on Thu, 10 January 2013, 13:05:15
PS: Will you guys ever release a PC version of the Tactile Pro? I'd absolutely love a NON silenced version of that mini PC board.

lol I'm actually interested in a full size PC version Tactile Pro

I think you'll see one eventually. :-)

deepthawt · « **Reply #38 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:05:39 »

"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best -- "and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called”

I think the word is 'anticipation'

yay, February is here and that means the MMQP is soon to be on its way.

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #39 on:** Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:38:14 »

Quote from: deepthawt on Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:05:39

"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best -- "and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called”

I think the word is 'anticipation'

yay, February is here and that means the MMQP is soon to be on its way.

We can bet on who is going to get it first...

iri · « **Reply #40 on:** Sun, 03 February 2013, 04:20:39 »

Quote from: BucklingSpring on Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:38:14

Quote from: deepthawt on Sat, 02 February 2013, 10:05:39
"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best -- "and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called”

I think the word is 'anticipation'

yay, February is here and that means the MMQP is soon to be on its way.

We can bet on who is going to get it first...

can we be on who is going to get it last? i will win

simingma · « **Reply #41 on:** Thu, 07 February 2013, 20:53:44 »

I preordered Bluetooth and but cancelled it after receiving the tactile pro. I will definitely get one when resellers start to carry them.

RougeR · « **Reply #42 on:** Thu, 07 February 2013, 21:03:42 »

wait so your saying the bluetooth one is only available for a mac os computer....why cater to something with only a 10% market share instead of catering to all personal computers (yes macs are pcs)

Burz · « **Reply #43 on:** Sat, 09 February 2013, 21:47:08 »

Well I did it-- Went and pre-ordered a PC Mini MQP (that's a mouthful)!

I should soon be out of the keyboard ghetto.

ValerieV · « **Reply #44 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 08:55:41 »

Matias most likely is going to make a bluetooth PC mini tactile keyboard along with a mini tactile mac bluetooth keyboard. I don't understand why they didn't do it for the tactile models in the beginning but whatever. I bought the Matias Mini Tactile Mac keyboard and i can't wait. I have cleaned off my desk and it is ready for it's new home.

daerid · « **Reply #45 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 11:15:26 »

Quote from: Matias on Thu, 31 January 2013, 18:47:06

I think you'll see one eventually. :-)

Hell yes! This makes me very excited

Also, I don't remember where, but Matias said that they went with the configuration (mac+bt, pc+wired) due to market research.

There's nothing stopping you from using the BT MQP on a PC, you'd just have to remap some keys. Vice-versa for the USB MQP on a Mac

ValerieV · « **Reply #46 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 12:01:49 »

Personally, i like the look of the PC mini version keyboard. However, it isn't tactile and that is what i want so i bought the white mini tactile keyboard.

Burz · « **Reply #47 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 16:17:58 »

Quote from: ValerieV on Sun, 10 February 2013, 12:01:49

Personally, i like the look of the PC mini version keyboard. However, it isn't tactile and that is what i want so i bought the white mini tactile keyboard.

They are ALL tactile. I think what you mean is they aren't clicky.

I still mostly use Macs, but got the PC MQP anyway. Once you setup a program like keyremap4macbook a PC keyboard becomes no impediment whatsoever.

deepthawt · « **Reply #48 on:** Sun, 10 February 2013, 20:28:15 »

Quote from: iri on Wed, 09 January 2013, 09:30:24

yes! yes! yesssssss!!!!111111

+1

edit: LOL I +1'd an old post, changed my forum prefs to have newest on top, and started reading oldest ..

Pyrolistical · « **Reply #49 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 11:06:53 »

Still waiting

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