Post by: hoq on Thu, 03 November 2016, 07:54:34
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
Hi! After a long waiting, I decide to restart this IC now.
For some reasons I waited for about 1 year, but now I think it's the right time for me to restart it.
Mechanist is all about low-key, blue cold tone colors.
As our basic principle of this design, we want to design a keyset for daily use, and more suitable for your work.
I 'm going to gradually update the drawings, if you have any advices and needs, please feel free to leave massages here,Thanks!
Again, I'd like to reiterate that this keyset's design has nothing to do with any other movies, tv dramas, keyboard, and so on. This design is originally made by WolfMark.Club.
Set name：Mechanist
Profile：SA（1-1-2-3-4-3）
Production：SP
GB schedule：2018, Summer
Design：WolfMark.Club
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Kits update:
1. Alphas
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/1/c7f996ec/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen Alphas
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5NHhtzr/0/82abefe2/X3/i-5NHhtzr-X3.jpg)
3. TKL Adapter
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
4. Non-standard
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RqHSCH8/0/c52d7a23/X3/i-RqHSCH8-X3.jpg)
5. Numpad
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XcqKPtm/0/e0b402a9/X3/i-XcqKPtm-X3.jpg)
6. Dvorak/Colemak
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zHnWPFH/0/db938e3e/X3/i-zHnWPFH-X3.jpg)
7. Ortholinear
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Mechanist/n-rtRxNj/i-xG3zRCV/0/010aac1b/O/i-xG3zRCV.jpg)
8. 40%
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5WGZLHR/1/0b285e01/X3/i-5WGZLHR-X3.jpg)
9. Ergonomics
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JScLtsH/0/edf2609e/X3/i-JScLtsH-X3.jpg)
10. UHK/Minila
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TRFDCfP/0/2aefebf2/O/i-TRFDCfP.jpg)
11. ISO
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3mZ43Pt/1/3fbb6da8/X2/i-3mZ43Pt-X2.jpg)
12. Mecha Tools
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Mechanist/n-rtRxNj/i-sfkDCM2/0/5c38160e/O/i-sfkDCM2.jpg)
13. Gears
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MsBCGTg/1/3a379575/O/i-MsBCGTg.jpg)
14. Spacekeys
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MMPtLpz/2/d31a79d2/X3/i-MMPtLpz-X3.jpg)
15. Spacebars
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KcFr8Hq/0/583a76b2/X3/i-KcFr8Hq-X3.jpg)
16. Arrows
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qLX5VWh/1/877b0718/O/i-qLX5VWh.jpg)
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Post by: hoq on Thu, 03 November 2016, 07:55:08
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z2CRQp9/0/d72261cc/XL/i-Z2CRQp9-XL.jpg)
Post by: Overchecken8 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:44:18
Post by: thad on Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:48:15
Post by: hoq on Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:59:39
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 03 November 2016, 10:16:19
Post by: zslane on Thu, 03 November 2016, 12:42:54
Post by: arhetue on Thu, 03 November 2016, 12:46:39
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 03 November 2016, 12:54:24
I like the colors. I like the work this team has done in the past. You have my interest! :thumb:
What other projects have they done in the past? Still fairly new here
Post by: arhetue on Thu, 03 November 2016, 13:22:48
Post by: PatchSalts on Thu, 03 November 2016, 13:31:05
Nice color choices. I can always use more blue SA keysets... :thumb:This coming from the creator of SA Dasher/Dancer is just too funny.
Post by: zslane on Thu, 03 November 2016, 13:40:56
Post by: e_l_tang on Thu, 03 November 2016, 14:25:11
I think that calling the set "Mechanic," "Engineer," or "Maker" will better convey the feel that you are trying to create.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 03 November 2016, 15:46:07
Post by: hoq on Thu, 03 November 2016, 19:58:43
Blue alphas (in SA format) are almost unheard of. We need more! Dasher/Dancer is merely a good start. ;D
Yes, your DaD set made a good start, the colors are quiet suitable for work , people love it.
BTW, we call your set "dad" in China :p, a lot of people love your design and eager to buy one, really looking forward to Dec. groupbuy of Dasher/Dancer
Post by: hoq on Thu, 03 November 2016, 20:10:21
Have you thought about about naming the set something different? "Mechanist" isn't really part of the English lexicon. In addition, it's a name that is used in the Fallout video game, and you might run into some IP issues like the Out of the Vault GB did.
I think that calling the set "Mechanic," "Engineer," or "Maker" will better convey the feel that you are trying to create.
I know "mechanist " is not a common word in English，but "Mechanic," "Engineer," or "Maker" are too normal, and not impressive at all.
and，this set has absolutely on intimation of any games and brands.......
Post by: hoq on Thu, 03 November 2016, 20:21:07
I like the choice of colors, looking forward to previews! Reminds me of Submechanophobia, the fear of man made machines below sea. https://www.reddit.com/r/submechanophobia/
haha，the cold blue tone， reminds people of some mechenical killing devices. :thumb:
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 22:20:07
Post by: e_l_tang on Fri, 04 November 2016, 03:26:06
Even if you aren't taking any inspiration from Fallout, you might still find yourself in hot water for using the name of one of the characters.
Post by: hoq on Fri, 04 November 2016, 03:40:45
Post by: e_l_tang on Fri, 04 November 2016, 05:31:40
Post by: Parva Ovis on Fri, 04 November 2016, 13:27:06
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 04 November 2016, 13:37:40
Post by: __ on Fri, 04 November 2016, 14:01:48
Post by: hoq on Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:30:29
Awesome color theme, been looking for something like this. Are you considering multiple alpha sets so we can play with the color layout at all?
Now we have not decided, but very likely.
One more alpha color, can be more suitable for some occasions.
But we need to carefully consider the color mix.
Post by: hoq on Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:38:17
'Mechanist' is an archaic form of 'Mechanic', as well as a term used in philosophy to describe a believer of mechanism. The word's usage peaked once in the 1820s and again between in the 1930s. The Fallout series doesn't own the word any more than J.K. Rowling owns the word 'Potter'. ;)
Yes, I use mechanist this word to emphasize those enthusiasts of Mechanicalism.
Post by: hoq on Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:46:15
Post by: hoq on Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:49:42
hyped to see the design and novelties !
Novolties are still need to improve.
we need some more time.
Post by: SpareWalrus on Fri, 04 November 2016, 23:26:40
Post by: hoq on Sat, 05 November 2016, 00:25:00
Post by: hoq on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:04:54
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:18:17
Post by: e_l_tang on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:21:18
Post by: hoq on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:33:46
Count me in for Base, Frozen and Numpad :thumb: very nice work, looks a bit like an inverted Calm Depths if you don't mind me saying, but of course enough differences that make it unique nonetheless.
Thanks.
Actually, after we decided the colors, we found that they the same with some popular SA designs.
BFR： calmdepth
BBJ : Dasher and Dancer, Oblivion
BFM: yuri
WA: a lot of sets use it as a font color.
but ,I think the color matching and the design inspiration are unique for Mechanist.
Post by: laminam on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:39:56
Post by: lithopedion on Sun, 06 November 2016, 00:31:56
Post by: __ on Sun, 06 November 2016, 08:51:29
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 06 November 2016, 08:54:27
http://www.kbdist.com/chronicler-origins/
I don't think that set ever did much though because of the miscommunication. I believe they were run with Cherry legends not centered.
Post by: hoq on Sun, 06 November 2016, 09:41:35
Base and frozen, count me in. Are the frozen alphas the same colors as Chronicler?
I tried to find which white(grey?) color that Chronicler used on Originative, but the color information is not there.
According to its real photo which taken after production, the keycaps look more grey than WA.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fGhvqtT/0/L/i-fGhvqtT-L.jpg)
and I also checked the introduction of Chronicler，it says inspired by DCS Soware,
Soware used the BFQ(cyan), GSL(light grey), GTD(deep grey)
so , I don't think they are the same. we are so lucky!
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sun, 06 November 2016, 09:44:54
Only two things are missing from this to make it perfect for me:
A 1.75 R3 key that's either FN, blank, or a novelty.
A second 2.25 R3 novelty key so I can have two in the same color to use as a split space bar. Two blank 2.25 keys would work as well, but a second novelty might be easier to add to the set.
If those were options than I'd definitely get this set instead of or in addition to SA Oblivion, since it's the only set I know of so far that has those options.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 06 November 2016, 10:35:22
I think Mechanist will look much better!
Post by: JustBad2 on Sun, 06 November 2016, 11:50:25
Post by: Cotay on Sun, 06 November 2016, 12:55:59
Post by: arhetue on Sun, 06 November 2016, 13:19:54
Post by: janglad on Sun, 06 November 2016, 13:22:14
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:05:09
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective. Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet. Gratz on that. However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:25:45
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective. Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet. Gratz on that. However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)
Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.
Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board)
Post by: climbalima on Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:30:52
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:38:46
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective. Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet. Gratz on that. However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)
Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.
Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board)
Thanks for the link. Yes, the font is similar but it looks a bit too small and kind of short in X-height.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:55:27
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective. Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet. Gratz on that. However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)
Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.
Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board)
Thanks for the link. Yes, the font is similar but it looks a bit too small and kind of short in X-height.
No, thank you for the vote :D And indeed, I wonder what the standard font of KBLE is? I Googled it and I can't seem to find anything
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 06 November 2016, 21:51:55
No, thank you for the vote :D And indeed, I wonder what the standard font of KBLE is? I Googled it and I can't seem to find anything
The editor defaults to "Engravers Gothic" when you type in SA or DSA. You can see in the developer tools of your browser if you inspect the page. You cannot download Gorton anywhere, b/c it's Signature Plastic's own font. The closest I've ever found was Sinkin Sans, but that is not free. Arial would be closer than the Engraver's Gothic though. You'll need to bump the Alphas up to 8 or 9 in the font size box. Numbers and other Multi-character like the <, or ?/ key should probably be around 4 or 5 size. The Modifiers should be all caps and around 3 in size.
Not trying to hijack the thread. I'll buy both sets for sure!
Post by: gnmar2723 on Sun, 06 November 2016, 22:32:15
Post by: janglad on Mon, 07 November 2016, 00:26:08
No, thank you for the vote :D And indeed, I wonder what the standard font of KBLE is? I Googled it and I can't seem to find anything
The editor defaults to "Engravers Gothic" when you type in SA or DSA. You can see in the developer tools of your browser if you inspect the page. You cannot download Gorton anywhere, b/c it's Signature Plastic's own font. The closest I've ever found was Sinkin Sans, but that is not free. Arial would be closer than the Engraver's Gothic though. You'll need to bump the Alphas up to 8 or 9 in the font size box. Numbers and other Multi-character like the <, or ?/ key should probably be around 4 or 5 size. The Modifiers should be all caps and around 3 in size.
Not trying to hijack the thread. I'll buy both sets for sure!
Stupid that I didn't think of that... Thank you for the help!
And yeah I just realised we were kinda doing that :-X. Awesome to hear!!
Post by: hoq on Mon, 07 November 2016, 01:54:59
Really like the colors, but no 40% love? Need to advocate for more MiniVan support!
We can try to make a kit for it , but as you know ,the rare keyboards layout are hard reach the MOQ. :)
Post by: Namkhanhv on Mon, 07 November 2016, 01:55:39
Post by: hoq on Mon, 07 November 2016, 02:15:35
Love it. Any chance of PBT uniform r3?
We want double-shot keycaps, so PBT is not suitable for us.
About uniform R3 ，We still need to consider its possibility. Godspeed made a uniform R3 kit，and sell well, maybe it's a good idea.
Post by: InfernoZeus on Mon, 07 November 2016, 05:52:59
Post by: My_Thoughts on Mon, 07 November 2016, 06:13:19
Post by: elfick on Mon, 07 November 2016, 09:13:45
About uniform R3 ，We still need to consider its possibility. Godspeed made a uniform R3 kit，and sell well, maybe it's a good idea.I love the set too. I'm in as is, but I'd also be interested in a uniform R3 option.
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I know it would probably never happen but I'd love to see a uniform R3 set with a "partial sculpt" option... A R2 and R4 addon for the rows for the top and bottom alpha rows. I guess Godspeed probably handled it the most logical way... Though I neglected to pick up the Cockpit set so I'm going to have to try to find one.
Post by: Data on Mon, 07 November 2016, 13:33:25
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 07 November 2016, 13:58:11
Post by: achooie on Mon, 07 November 2016, 14:43:40
Post by: hoq on Mon, 07 November 2016, 20:40:31
Love this colorway as the dark tone colors really suit workplace. I am definitely in but with the current hectic schedule of SP, we have to wait for months to see the actual GB. Have you think of choosing the vendor to run the GB yet?
No, we haven't decided which vendor to run this GB yet, have not contacted any vendors.
Infact， it's not we choose vendor. it's vendor to choose us.... :p
Post by: gnmar2723 on Mon, 07 November 2016, 23:20:22
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
Post by: elfick on Tue, 08 November 2016, 08:24:41
My mind boggles at the madness! :eek:I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
Does that make it any easier to get sculpted sets that fit your layout? Doesn't seem like it would.
Post by: gnmar2723 on Tue, 08 November 2016, 10:05:04
It just kind happened because those were the blanks I had from my grab bag. I think I might like it more because I leave my board flat with no incline angle, so it kind of emulates the incline. I picked up some round 5 blanks from DT on the cheap as wellMy mind boggles at the madness! :eek:I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
Does that make it any easier to get sculpted sets that fit your layout? Doesn't seem like it would.
Post by: hoq on Tue, 08 November 2016, 18:49:49
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
For me 2343 is better on a planck or 40%.
Blank kit is not quite realistic.
If you really want any blanks, maybe you should buy a Ergo kit for instead.
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:27:57
Post by: Data on Wed, 09 November 2016, 07:38:15
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
For me 2343 is better on a planck or 40%.
Blank kit is not quite realistic.
If you really want any blanks, maybe you should buy a Ergo kit for instead.
Just FYI, your Base Kit already has a R1 2u Backspace key. You shouldn't need a second one in the Planck/Atomic kit.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 09 November 2016, 08:50:33
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
For me 2343 is better on a planck or 40%.
Blank kit is not quite realistic.
If you really want any blanks, maybe you should buy a Ergo kit for instead.
Just FYI, your Base Kit already has a R1 2u Backspace key. You shouldn't need a second one in the Planck/Atomic kit.
yes you said right. Atomic uses a same 2u R1 backspace! Thank you!
Post by: hoq on Wed, 09 November 2016, 09:03:27
minila again? IM JOIN AGAIN FOR SURE! :p
Yes，It comes a again, I think this time it better for a white minila （with Frozen kit）
Post by: elfick on Wed, 09 November 2016, 11:13:34
I agree. 2343 is my favorite sculpt. I just wish more novelties were in r3. :)I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
For me 2343 is better on a planck or 40%.
Blank kit is not quite realistic.
If you really want any blanks, maybe you should buy a Ergo kit for instead.
Post by: Selthor on Thu, 10 November 2016, 23:49:32
Post by: hoq on Fri, 11 November 2016, 00:33:22
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-k63wgdb/0/XL/i-k63wgdb-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-BKd6Hz5/0/XL/i-BKd6Hz5-XL.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-WJJvg2T/0/XL/i-WJJvg2T-XL.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Fri, 11 November 2016, 00:45:34
I finally made an account to say that I absolutely adore this set. If it goes to group buy I will buy it for sure.
Thank you for your support !
We will definitely open a GB someday. but just need to wait for a little bit longer.
Post by: thad on Fri, 11 November 2016, 07:57:17
Post by: Parva Ovis on Fri, 11 November 2016, 09:50:26
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Post by: Omnipotent on Fri, 11 November 2016, 20:15:01
Post by: hoq on Sat, 12 November 2016, 08:01:36
Oh sweet ! any chance for splitting the base kit's alphas ? i love the frozen alphas more :p
Yes , I realized that the split the alphas from the base is a better way.
Post by: hoq on Sat, 12 November 2016, 08:02:42
Is there any chance of adding a R3 1.75 Function key to the base kit or adapter kit?
I got that , I will modify it soon. :))
Post by: hoq on Sat, 12 November 2016, 08:18:28
1. Alphas
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-BBR8r4D/0/X3/i-BBR8r4D-X3.png)
2. Frozen Alphas
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-CRKkL63/0/X3/i-CRKkL63-X3.png)
3. TKL
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mDvdKt/1/X3/i-7mDvdKt-X3.png)
Post by: mll8394 on Sun, 13 November 2016, 09:16:15
Post by: rsr on Sun, 13 November 2016, 10:11:46
Post by: hoq on Sun, 13 November 2016, 18:44:56
There is a thing I don't understand in the last SA keysets done recently... why the numpad has a 1U R2 plus key without an additional R3 key that will be under it. What it is suposed to be put in this place on keyboards with the + key that is split?
Oops! I found that I've made a mistake.
the 1u "+" should be in R3, and a 1u "-" needs to be added.
Thank you for pointing this out.
Post by: rsr on Sun, 13 November 2016, 19:57:05
You're welcome and thanks to you to design this amazing keyset ;D
:thumb:
Post by: hoq on Tue, 15 November 2016, 01:14:53
That makes much more sense.
You're welcome and thanks to you to design this amazing keyset ;D
:thumb:
Thanks so much!
Post by: hoq on Tue, 15 November 2016, 10:10:55
05.Numpad
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-QMNhR27/0/X2/i-QMNhR27-X2.png)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 16 November 2016, 02:52:17
Love this Colour-way and it will be used in the workshop with the mechanics :thumb: .
Post by: hoq on Wed, 16 November 2016, 05:43:28
When this goes LIVE I shall be there.
Love this Colour-way and it will be used in the workshop with the mechanics :thumb: .
Thank you for saying that.. ^-^
Post by: hoq on Wed, 16 November 2016, 05:45:20
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5V3DCpj/0/X2/i-5V3DCpj-X2.jpg)
Post by: sun_day on Wed, 16 November 2016, 08:52:04
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?
Post by: hoq on Wed, 16 November 2016, 09:29:26
why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?
(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Post by: Data on Wed, 16 November 2016, 11:10:58
why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.
Quote
Why are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
Post by: sun_day on Wed, 16 November 2016, 13:06:13
Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
VE.A(75% keyboard) need it
So sorry,My English is very bad :(
Post by: e_l_tang on Wed, 16 November 2016, 13:08:52
Where would those keycaps go?why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
VE.A need it
So sorry,My English is very bad :(
Post by: sun_day on Wed, 16 November 2016, 13:51:22
(http://attachimg=1]http://])Where would those keycaps go?why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
VE.A need it
So sorry,My English is very bad :(
(http://[attachimg=2]) here....
Post by: hoq on Wed, 16 November 2016, 18:53:07
why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
Oh, thank you for your interpretation.
Post by: e_l_tang on Wed, 16 November 2016, 19:18:00
He only wants a row 4 End key.why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
Post by: hoq on Wed, 16 November 2016, 19:27:25
Thanks for your pictures.Where would those keycaps go?why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
VE.A need it
So sorry,My English is very bad :(Show Image(http://attachimg=1]http://])Show Image(http://[attachimg=2])here....
To be honest, I still need more confirmation of this demand.
It is not that hard to add one key in the drawings.
but, it will add some cost for all of the people.
This requires careful consideration.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 16 November 2016, 21:27:25
Post by: ticktwo on Thu, 17 November 2016, 00:53:51
Post by: brianjking on Tue, 22 November 2016, 10:07:43
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 22 November 2016, 14:31:49
Post by: davisthegreat on Wed, 23 November 2016, 00:42:24
By looking at the sets would the Adapter kit cover the TADA68 and the new RS96 verIII ( currently on MD)?
Post by: hoq on Wed, 23 November 2016, 10:17:16
Love it! Certainly interested
By looking at the sets would the Adapter kit cover the TADA68 and the new RS96 verIII ( currently on MD)?
Maybe you should buy a Planck/Atomic kit to match a 68 layout. :)
Post by: hoq on Wed, 23 November 2016, 10:19:26
Post by: elfick on Wed, 23 November 2016, 10:33:40
Post by: hoq on Wed, 23 November 2016, 10:59:44
I looked but couldn't really tell... Is there a 1.5 R3 BBJ anywhere in any of the sets? Legend doesn't matter.
We haven't made a 1.5u BBJ key in R3. Where do you want to use?
Post by: elfick on Wed, 23 November 2016, 11:12:11
It would be my enter key in a custom layout but I know there are 1.5 R3 caps in the set that I could use. I just wanted a dash of that sweet BBJ color and I didn't think I'd end up with any. I forgot that I could use the two 1.25 R3 BBJ caps from Novelties-1 in my bottom row so no worries. :DI looked but couldn't really tell... Is there a 1.5 R3 BBJ anywhere in any of the sets? Legend doesn't matter.
We haven't made a 1.5u BBJ key in R3. Where do you want to use?
Post by: Data on Wed, 23 November 2016, 11:30:20
Post by: hoq on Wed, 23 November 2016, 19:12:57
It would be my enter key in a custom layout but I know there are 1.5 R3 caps in the set that I could use. I just wanted a dash of that sweet BBJ color and I didn't think I'd end up with any. I forgot that I could use the two 1.25 R3 BBJ caps from Novelties-1 in my bottom row so no worries. :DI looked but couldn't really tell... Is there a 1.5 R3 BBJ anywhere in any of the sets? Legend doesn't matter.
We haven't made a 1.5u BBJ key in R3. Where do you want to use?
That’s OK!
and as a suggestion, SA Dasher and Dancer keysets also have BBJ color keys with white legends，
If you really need a BBJ 1.5u R3 keycap, you should go to have a look.
It will be launched in 12.12.2016.
Post by: zslane on Wed, 23 November 2016, 21:43:50
As I mentioned in the IC thread over at DT, I think Dasher/Dancer and Mechanist make for brilliant companion sets to each other.
Post by: zslane on Wed, 23 November 2016, 23:46:14
Just something to consider.
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Post by: hoq on Thu, 24 November 2016, 02:29:04
Wow, that's a lot of kits. :eek:
Since the requirment is getting more and more, I added more keys and sets.
This makes us a little worried, even if the group opens oneday, some kits are hard to meet the moqs.
Post by: hoq on Thu, 24 November 2016, 02:54:32
If I might offer one suggestion: you might not want to use BBJ legends with WA keycaps. The contrast is too low, IMO. Below is an image showing just the luma of two of your colorway samples, and you can see how poor the contrast is between the legends and the keycaps when BBJ legends are used on WA keycaps in the lower example. Notice how much better the contrast is when you use BFR for the legends, as in the upper example. Maybe go with something like BFP legends with the white keycaps.
Just something to consider.
(Attachment Link)
Yes you are right.
the Frozen Alphas set looks a little bit low contrast.
In fact, at the very beginning, we only developed the BFM Alphas (with BFR legend) as the main alpha set，
as some user want more choise ，We added the Fronzen Alphas set,
Frozen Alphas （WA with BBJ legend) look low contrast，but more elegent.
We will consider about the font color, BFP or some other dark colors. Thank you.
Post by: hoq on Thu, 01 December 2016, 06:29:24
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mq27Sbz/1/X2/i-mq27Sbz-X2.png)
Post by: LXuelin on Sun, 04 December 2016, 06:28:34
I am very expect this but it is too many kits. :-X :confused: :confused: I only wish I have enough money to buy them in next year. :)
Also, I hope the color is the same as the picture。 ;)
Post by: hoq on Sun, 04 December 2016, 19:39:38
Vrey nice! :D
I am very expect this but it is too many kits. :-X :confused: :confused: I only wish I have enough money to buy them in next year. :)
Also, I hope the color is the same as the picture。 ;)
Thank you for your support.
In order to maintain the right color in PC software and in output pics.
I used RGB cord of each SP color.
you may refer to the color card below to see how deferent between the pics and your pc software.
Hex color RGB color
deep blue BFR #293649 41,54,73
blue BBJ #008fb0 0,143,176
light blue BFM #abc6dc 171,198,220
white WA #e4dedd 228,222,221
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qdgvdrX/0/O/i-qdgvdrX.png)
Post by: robotmaxtron on Wed, 14 December 2016, 16:21:14
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 23 December 2016, 08:50:31
Post by: kmba on Wed, 28 December 2016, 00:09:20
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 28 December 2016, 04:26:12
Post by: hoq on Wed, 28 December 2016, 05:50:51
I will update the renders in Jan. :p
Hope you have a nice vacation all ！
Post by: bkw1209 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 17:33:34
Post by: ChitownM2 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 20:46:24
Post by: FLOCKA on Mon, 02 January 2017, 12:23:53
If I might offer one suggestion: you might not want to use BBJ legends with WA keycaps. The contrast is too low, IMO. Below is an image showing just the luma of two of your colorway samples, and you can see how poor the contrast is between the legends and the keycaps when BBJ legends are used on WA keycaps in the lower example. Notice how much better the contrast is when you use BFR for the legends, as in the upper example. Maybe go with something like BFP legends with the white keycaps.
Just something to consider.
(Attachment Link)
Yes you are right.
the Frozen Alphas set looks a little bit low contrast.
In fact, at the very beginning, we only developed the BFM Alphas (with BFR legend) as the main alpha set，
as some user want more choise ，We added the Fronzen Alphas set,
Frozen Alphas （WA with BBJ legend) look low contrast，but more elegent.
We will consider about the font color, BFP or some other dark colors. Thank you.
Have you given more thought as to whether or not you'll change the frozen alphas' font color? I like this set so much, but my main concern is that it'll have the same problem as Chronicler (too low-contrast)
Post by: hoq on Mon, 02 January 2017, 21:00:57
If it's the same with Soware, the alphas color are GTD(BFQ). that‘s really difficult to identify the alphas at all.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ck3J98Z/0/O/i-ck3J98Z.png)
I compared it with Frozen Alphas, obviously, the contrast of Frozen Alphas is higher.
or we can use BFR legends on WA keycaps to add more contrast.
I will make some mock-ups to show which is better later.
Personally, I like BBJ color on WA, that looks more "frozen" ;)
Post by: hoq on Fri, 13 January 2017, 09:53:00
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jth5vmc/0/X2/i-jth5vmc-X2.png)
8. Minila
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fpk4WCq/1/X2/i-fpk4WCq-X2.png)
Post by: hoq on Sat, 14 January 2017, 02:45:13
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sQgs6VM/0/X2/i-sQgs6VM-X2.png)
Post by: hoq on Sat, 14 January 2017, 11:19:09
12 Forums
13 Dvorak-Colemak
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-cwrRBNB/1/X2/i-cwrRBNB-X2.png)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-HLBSLrB/0/X2/i-HLBSLrB-X2.png)
Post by: alveeno on Sat, 14 January 2017, 12:57:22
Post by: breusch91 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 18:15:32
Alphas are two different bright colors, have you considered alphas of same color as mods? I would be down for thoseI like the colors you have going on now but agree with alveeno, this might look really cool. I'd really like alphas the same color as the mods legends/novs. Kind of like how SA carbon ran the orange alphas that matched their novs/mod legends
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Post by: hoq on Sat, 14 January 2017, 21:05:50
For the reference, the third pattern of the alphas changed to BBJ(BFR legend), They look like Carbon orange alphas color way.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6JPmpfK/0/X3/i-6JPmpfK-X3.jpg)
but, I bend the color to black and white to check the contrast, they look even harder to identify the lengend.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hsx5vCd/0/X3/i-hsx5vCd-X3.jpg)
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sat, 14 January 2017, 21:15:05
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 14 January 2017, 21:27:38
I tried to make a mock up pic as you required.
For the reference, the third pattern of the alphas changed to BBJ(BFR legend), They look like Carbon orange alphas color way.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6JPmpfK/0/X3/i-6JPmpfK-X3.jpg)
If this aint BFM (BFR), I will choke the living hell out of the goon that goes with any other way colour-way with this design.
Enough said here >:( .
Post by: hoq on Sat, 14 January 2017, 22:48:37
I think the original two colors are better for daily use. I will keep the original design.
Post by: hoq on Sun, 15 January 2017, 09:32:05
15. ISO
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-T4RXbfX/0/X3/i-T4RXbfX-X3.png)
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 15 January 2017, 10:01:13
I tried to make a mock up pic as you required.
For the reference, the third pattern of the alphas changed to BBJ(BFR legend), They look like Carbon orange alphas color way.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6JPmpfK/0/X3/i-6JPmpfK-X3.jpg)
but, I bend the color to black and white to check the contrast, they look even harder to identify the lengend.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hsx5vCd/0/X3/i-hsx5vCd-X3.jpg)
You're right the new colored alphas would look to close to dasher/dancer and not as good in my opinion. I think alveeno was also saying try one were you kept the current mod base color but changed the mod legends to the color or the base alpha (BFM)
Either way I'm starting to get excited about this set!
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Post by: punksinatra on Sun, 15 January 2017, 11:31:56
Post by: cyberputty on Sun, 15 January 2017, 13:07:35
Post by: hoq on Sun, 15 January 2017, 19:05:45
If you actually managed to get a Dvorak layout made I'm on board.
Of course there will be，
In fact, I'm a Colemak user, I must make a D/C kit.
Post by: hoq on Sun, 15 January 2017, 19:07:40
If you actually managed to get a Dvorak layout made I'm on board.
Still need some time to get a keyboard render, Please wait a moment.
Post by: hoq on Mon, 16 January 2017, 07:38:21
Post by: elfick on Mon, 16 January 2017, 08:59:04
How are you going to handle the child kits that have heavy alpha content like Colevrak and Internation? Will you offer two versions to support both alpha colors or are you going to have a primary alpha color and only offer the child kits with that color?
Post by: cyberputty on Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:12:30
Post by: hoq on Mon, 16 January 2017, 20:21:37
I believe the BFM alpha also looks cool, I can't wait to make more renders to check how they look. Please wait a moment.
Post by: kmba on Mon, 16 January 2017, 20:31:58
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 17 January 2017, 21:22:06
Post by: hoq on Wed, 18 January 2017, 11:19:10
Here are more renders， hope you like them :p
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jdv5rcj/0/X2/i-jdv5rcj-X2.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5nMcpmG/0/X2/i-5nMcpmG-X2.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-gj4ptGd/1/X2/i-gj4ptGd-X2.jpg)
Post by: DuckNorris on Wed, 18 January 2017, 11:31:34
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 18 January 2017, 11:36:57
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Post by: hoq on Wed, 18 January 2017, 11:44:13
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B9WRR6Q/0/X2/i-B9WRR6Q-X2.jpg)
Post by: DuckNorris on Wed, 18 January 2017, 11:48:32
Can't wait to see one with the main alphas. Hope we get this gb going soon so we can get this by next Christmas!
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Is that really how long it would take to get this if it happens? :eek:
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 18 January 2017, 11:51:34
87 keyboard rendersYup definitely getting that!Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B9WRR6Q/0/X2/i-B9WRR6Q-X2.jpg)
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Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 18 January 2017, 11:52:09
Could be a little sooner, but I'm pretty positive SP is booked till October currently could be wrong thoughCan't wait to see one with the main alphas. Hope we get this gb going soon so we can get this by next Christmas!
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Is that really how long it would take to get this if it happens? :eek:
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Post by: DuckNorris on Wed, 18 January 2017, 12:02:20
Could be a little sooner, but I'm pretty positive SP is booked till October currently could be wrong thoughCan't wait to see one with the main alphas. Hope we get this gb going soon so we can get this by next Christmas!
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Is that really how long it would take to get this if it happens? :eek:
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Ah so even SP probably is booked that long I thought it was just GMK that took that long to process.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 18 January 2017, 12:14:53
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Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 18 January 2017, 23:16:24
Post by: hoq on Fri, 20 January 2017, 01:07:20
If you like this keysets and hope to let it become reality, Please vote for it!
the URL: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
Post by: breusch91 on Fri, 20 January 2017, 07:01:19
After nearly 3 monthes' working on this design, We openned a MassDrop Poll,
If you like this keysets and hope to let it become reality, Please vote for it!
the URL: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
May I ask why the choice was massdrop? I don't mind them in particular but it will add a decent amount of time (having the poll go through, massdrop actually caring and working out the details) to an already long SP production queue. No chance originative/keyclack could run a GB for this through their sites?
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Post by: lithopedion on Fri, 20 January 2017, 09:39:40
After nearly 3 monthes' working on this design, We openned a MassDrop Poll,
If you like this keysets and hope to let it become reality, Please vote for it!
the URL: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
May I ask why the choice was massdrop? I don't mind them in particular but it will add a decent amount of time (having the poll go through, massdrop actually caring and working out the details) to an already long SP production queue. No chance originative/keyclack could run a GB for this through their sites?
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To be honest, I don't trust Originative on running any SA set by now, especially on running a set having so many kits like the SA Mechanist, based on what they did with the SA Chronicler. Originative is surely a good choice for a GMK GB, yet they seem to be very inexperienced with SP GBs.
And among the three platforms you mentioned, massdrop almost always provides the best price and is more likely to hit higher moqs so as to unlock better price drops.
IMO massdrop is the best choice for SA Mechanist GB. But it is the wolfmark team who make the final decision. I'm just eagerly waiting for the GB to come. ^_^
Post by: hoq on Fri, 20 January 2017, 20:03:40
If possible, we would like to chose MD, as lithopedion said above, MD can collect more orders to lower the price for each user,
and easely to hit the MOQ for those rare kits users，such as Minila, Dvorak/Colemak, International.
I'm not hoping to see some kits being cut off because of a lack of orders.
Another problem is, from later last year until now, A lot of SA group-buy launched, and the Production capacity
of SP is limiteded to swallow more orders, nonetheless, more group-buys are about to run continuously.
People love SA so much.
According to these, we may need to wait more time to run the group-buy.
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Fri, 20 January 2017, 20:23:49
Yea gona have o get a few sets of both of these when the drop.
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 22 January 2017, 09:46:05
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Post by: hoq on Tue, 24 January 2017, 08:24:37
I am going to try to contact some vendors to see how to launch this keyset! :thumb:
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 24 January 2017, 08:26:49
Thank you guys for your support!
I am going to try to contact some vendors to see how to launch this keyset! :thumb:
Awesome good luck!
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Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:12:07
We hold the MD poll just to confirm how many people like this design and We have not decide which vendor to corperate with.
If possible, we would like to chose MD, as lithopedion said above, MD can collect more orders to lower the price for each user,
and easely to hit the MOQ for those rare kits users，such as Minila, Dvorak/Colemak, International.
I'm not hoping to see some kits being cut off because of a lack of orders.
Another problem is, from later last year until now, A lot of SA group-buy launched, and the Production capacity
of SP is limiteded to swallow more orders, nonetheless, more group-buys are about to run continuously.
People love SA so much.
According to these, we may need to wait more time to run the group-buy.
Voted.
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:38:34
btw i want to point out something.
if TKL kit already had R3 1.75u CTRL. it would be nice to remove R3 1.75u CTRL from Minila Kit (it would be a little bit cheaper for minila user :p)
Post by: hoq on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:43:08
Post by: Cods on Wed, 08 February 2017, 14:07:56
Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:02:01
gorgeousShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vnqhtp4/1/O/i-vnqhtp4.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:30:26
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:36:20
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sure
(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Post by: Slash Emperor on Fri, 10 February 2017, 10:44:53
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Oh man, that does look really cool. I'm in the YAS62 GB and considering putting it in a black FMJ case, your mockup makes me want to try that.
Post by: hoq on Sun, 12 February 2017, 04:53:46
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Frozen Alphas on this layout look very cool!
I also have a Minila, but no SA keysets support this layout, I hope to make one kit to fullfill the users.
(SA Carbon has 3u spacebars, but it has not enough adapter keys)
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 05 March 2017, 00:27:13
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Frozen Alphas on this layout look very cool!
I also have a Minila, but no SA keysets support this layout, I hope to make one kit to fullfill the users.
(SA Carbon has 3u spacebars, but it has not enough adapter keys)
any updates on possible vendors? I know this is obviously at least a year away just wondering if any big vendors have shown interest (don't need names), would just love at least some sort of update!
Post by: hoq on Sun, 05 March 2017, 06:55:32
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 05 March 2017, 16:55:44
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Oh man, that does look really cool. I'm in the YAS62 GB and considering putting it in a black FMJ case, your mockup makes me want to try that.
Looks like you've just decided what's going on my yas62 build
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Mon, 06 March 2017, 00:32:40
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 06 March 2017, 01:03:20
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
They've been particularly slow and, at times, not-communicative with set designers for quite a while.
Post by: hoq on Mon, 06 March 2017, 02:34:35
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
They've been particularly slow and, at times, not-communicative with set designers for quite a while.
Yes, they seem very busy, maybe a lot of keycap designer ask for them to run groupbuys.
but, at least they should give me a reply, even if they don't like this design.....
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Mon, 06 March 2017, 08:48:00
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
They've been particularly slow and, at times, not-communicative with set designers for quite a while.
Yes, they seem very busy, maybe a lot of keycap designer ask for them to run groupbuys.
but, at least they should give me a reply, even if they don't like this design.....
I would say after 3 days it's ok to send a follow-up email to make sure you didn't get lost in the noise. You could also ask Brazzers about the process as Plumb just finished on MD.
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 06 March 2017, 13:04:12
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
They've been particularly slow and, at times, not-communicative with set designers for quite a while.
Yes, they seem very busy, maybe a lot of keycap designer ask for them to run groupbuys.
but, at least they should give me a reply, even if they don't like this design.....
You would hope so. Yet we've had successfully run sets where communication dropped into nothing for months. You may end up needing to follow up with them to ensure you don't get lost in mix.
Post by: hoq on Mon, 06 March 2017, 21:35:27
Post by: breusch91 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 22:00:25
Thank you for all your advices. I will continue to follow up until they give me a reply.
While massdrop is nice as it allows more people to generally see that set there are other very successful vendors. one that comes to my mind that has a lot of GB's under his belt and seems to handle them all well is jchan94 over at keyclack.com . I'd say if you don't here baclk from massdrop you speak with him.
Post by: hoq on Tue, 07 March 2017, 23:57:01
They think this is a good design, but due to the production blocks, they can not give me any promises on SA group-buy plan. As production situation become loose, maybe one day, they will contact me to launch a GB with them.........
Hahaha,,,,,,,I'm still not sure the possibility of doing it with them.
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Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:01:59
Post by: drakeonyou on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:06:49
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:15:04
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Honestly that's becoming an interesting option. There was some talk of that on Reddit.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:17:09
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:25:59
Yeah with the 1 year SA backlog, I'm not surprised they're holding off on any SA related sets right now. Still, it was nice to see them give a reply. I'd say if you want to continue the MassDrop route, contact them again at some point in the future.
Yes, at least they gave me a reply. I will keep up contact them 1 or 2 month later.
During this time, I will try to make more renders to attract more customers. ;D
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:32:30
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
Post by: drakeonyou on Wed, 08 March 2017, 19:17:15
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
I have heard that novelties cost a lot.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 08 March 2017, 19:38:44
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 08 March 2017, 22:05:29
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Well their molds are better because it is SP's old molds that they sold to them. Though the molds have flaws such as printing "back space" instead of "backspace" apparently maxxkeys is trying to fix them
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Post by: simonyunhe on Wed, 08 March 2017, 22:53:04
Wow! Is this true? SP sold their molds to Maxkey, that explains why their keys are almost identical.You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Well their molds are better because it is SP's old molds that they sold to them. Though the molds have flaws such as printing "back space" instead of "backspace" apparently maxxkeys is trying to fix them
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Post by: hoq on Wed, 08 March 2017, 23:28:27
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Well their molds are better because it is SP's old molds that they sold to them. Though the molds have flaws such as printing "back space" instead of "backspace" apparently maxxkeys is trying to fix them
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:eek: :eek: :eek:
Are you sure?
If that is true, what a explosive news!
Post by: breusch91 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 00:02:50
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Well their molds are better because it is SP's old molds that they sold to them. Though the molds have flaws such as printing "back space" instead of "backspace" apparently maxxkeys is trying to fix them
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:eek: :eek: :eek:
Are you sure?
If that is true, what a explosive news!
Don't have time to search for sources now but yes. That doesn't mean they can print custom sets, just standard stuff currently, but maybe one day they'll get there. Originative is actually running a proxy groupbuy for them on kbdist.com . couple 104key sets at $75
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Post by: hoq on Thu, 09 March 2017, 03:14:00
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Post by: drakeonyou on Fri, 10 March 2017, 00:40:24
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I'm still interested in the Frosted set anyway.
Here's another MaxKey (Chinese SA) group buy https://www.zfrontier.com/m/1357
Post by: DuckNorris on Tue, 14 March 2017, 13:54:45
Regards
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 21 March 2017, 22:41:06
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:33:51
Looks like massdrop has plans to run SA Carbon round 2 in the summer, then SA Oblivion sometime after, maybe we can get lucky and sneak in after that?
Those have already been planned for with MD and SP so they're part of the reason for the 1 year SA backlog. You'd have to wait for SP and MD to open up SA orders again before being able to get anything new in.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 22 March 2017, 03:09:10
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Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 07:24:24
... Or get MaxKeys to produce them for half the cost and time frame
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I'm fine with MaxKeys but this is a set I'm very excited for and would like done right. MaxKeys is cheaper and shorter but they also have a good deal of inconsistencies. Also they produce matte keys not the shiny abs that I really prefer and I know I can't be the only one. Also has MaxKeys updated their molds yet? would they even be able to do those novelty keys?
MaxKeys appearance on the scene is great, and I'm happy about it. But I don't think they would do well making this keyset. All we've seen from them so far is fairly simple stuff in the ways of novelties and colors, until we see more I just wouldn't trust them with something like this.
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Post by: kmba on Wed, 22 March 2017, 07:43:52
Post by: Valaris on Wed, 22 March 2017, 08:17:04
Maxkeys has limited molds and lack full compatibility we've come to expect from marquee sets. Also the small errors they're still working out are unacceptable for something like this set. Better left to generic and reproduction sets until they're ironed out. Not a knock, as they're doing great work so far.
Yeah I'm eager for them to start including compatibility pack so I can buy a set for my Truefox.
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:10:22
In either case, it's nice to have MaxKeys in the picture.
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:15:01
MaxKeys has to start somewhere, though. If they can produce some sets and build up comfort in putting money into additional molds, the community wins. If they want to mostly stick to what they've got, the community still wins as some sets will still move over there for more continuous production while others will stick with SP given the advantages of doing so.
In either case, it's nice to have MaxKeys in the picture.
I completely agree, but they should start slow and slowly gain the knowledge/invest in the proper tooling and how to use it consistently right. Starting with sets with no novelties like they have, to some custom novelties/additional compat kits, then increase on that. I think the amount of novelties and compatibility we want for this kit would be way to much to throw at them right off the start without getting a bunch of errors
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Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 19:00:40
MaxKeys has to start somewhere, though. If they can produce some sets and build up comfort in putting money into additional molds, the community wins. If they want to mostly stick to what they've got, the community still wins as some sets will still move over there for more continuous production while others will stick with SP given the advantages of doing so.
In either case, it's nice to have MaxKeys in the picture.
I completely agree, but they should start slow and slowly gain the knowledge/invest in the proper tooling and how to use it consistently right. Starting with sets with no novelties like they have, to some custom novelties/additional compat kits, then increase on that. I think the amount of novelties and compatibility we want for this kit would be way to much to throw at them right off the start without getting a bunch of errors
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Yeah, this is true. Given they've got a handful of sets they'll be producing, we'll be able to see how they do. I'd probably be willing to jump in on a set were it in a colorway that I really liked, given the price. At present, I can sit back and give my wallet a break as I watch the current handful of buys go through to see how they turn out.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:30:24
Any update on this amazing set? I see the MD poll is getting good results so was just curious.
Regards
Not any improvement. but I will continue to contact MD if I got a confirmed reply.
Post by: ChitownM2 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 07:34:27
I assume at this point it's just a waiting game until SP opens up for orders again? Guessing once you have a production slot lined up it will be easy to find a vendor to host/run the GB.
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Post by: xyverz on Sun, 16 April 2017, 14:55:31
Just when I thought I didn't need more keycaps!
Ditto. And I'm currently waiting for another four keycap sets I ordered on MD to arrive.
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Post by: hoq on Wed, 07 June 2017, 01:55:13
The more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
Hi ,Can you tell me what the 1u R4 END key used for?
If it's good for some keyboards, I can add it. :)
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 07 June 2017, 03:49:45
The more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
Hi ,Can you tell me what the 1u R4 END key used for?
If it's good for some keyboards, I can add it. :)
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/947/keyboard-layouts-explained-in-detail-many-pics
Z70 for example. I think most people using 65/75% boards will appreciate a selection of 1u keys for the right side.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 07 June 2017, 04:02:08
The more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
Hi ,Can you tell me what the 1u R4 END key used for?
If it's good for some keyboards, I can add it. :)
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/947/keyboard-layouts-explained-in-detail-many-pics
Z70 for example. I think most people using 65/75% boards will appreciate a selection of 1u keys for the right side.
OK， thank for your information, :)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 07 June 2017, 05:13:37
I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
Is there not an option for IC creators to approach MaxKey with their SA profiles? The reviews of Ashen etc have been quite positive.
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 05:41:47
I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
Is there not an option for IC creators to approach MaxKey with their SA profiles? The reviews of Ashen etc have been quite positive.
You can, but then you probably won't see any of these novelties. MaxKeys is much cheaper for a standard set when compared to SP, but they charge A LOT for novelties from what I understand.
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Post by: hoq on Sat, 10 June 2017, 01:28:45
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Post by: hoq on Sat, 10 June 2017, 01:31:16
I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
Is there not an option for IC creators to approach MaxKey with their SA profiles? The reviews of Ashen etc have been quite positive.
In fact, Maxkey is not my original plan, for this keyset I only plan to make in SP SA ABS profile.
Maxkey is also good enough for use, but novelties are very high.
Post by: xantiema on Sat, 10 June 2017, 10:36:04
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Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 June 2017, 00:38:16
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 June 2017, 00:38:53
I got Ashen a few days ago. Looks great.I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
Is there not an option for IC creators to approach MaxKey with their SA profiles? The reviews of Ashen etc have been quite positive.
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Post by: robotsokk on Fri, 16 June 2017, 23:16:37
I really can not understand why MD do not make this drop happen, what the hell is wrong with them :mad: :mad: :mad:
I wouldn't pin this entirely on MD. SP's pipeline queue is quite long (see below). Combine that with the likely point that MD probably already has sets (not just SA) that have been committed for a while that plan on releasing between now and the end of the year, and it pushes out the timeline for when it'd make sense to engage more deeply on logistics for this set. Just my 2c.
"Current production lead times are as follows: [...] SA two-shot sets - currently booked out 12 months"
(source) (http://pimpmykeyboard.com/whats-new/)
All that said, I do look forward to this set (eventually) dropping.
Post by: breusch91 on Fri, 16 June 2017, 23:29:55
I really can not understand why MD do not make this drop happen, what the hell is wrong with them :mad: :mad: :mad:
I wouldn't pin this entirely on MD. SP's pipeline queue is quite long (see below). Combine that with the likely point that MD probably already has sets (not just SA) that have been committed for a while that plan on releasing between now and the end of the year, and it pushes out the timeline for when it'd make sense to engage more deeply on logistics for this set. Just my 2c.
"Current production lead times are as follows: [...] SA two-shot sets - currently booked out 12 months"
(source) (http://pimpmykeyboard.com/whats-new/)
All that said, I do look forward to this set (eventually) dropping.
That's great and all but HOQ started an interest check, and group buy for SP SA Ocean Dolch not to long ago, and well after the IC for this, and proceeded with that even though it doesn't ship till next June. So the queue isn't the problem.
And I don't think MD is the go to for this, he said he was looking around for others to help run it, MD is just a good place to post a poll to gauge interest.
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Post by: richard912 on Fri, 16 June 2017, 23:40:29
Hope to see the 1u R4 "END" key in the final setThe more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
Hi ,Can you tell me what the 1u R4 END key used for?
If it's good for some keyboards, I can add it. :)
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/947/keyboard-layouts-explained-in-detail-many-pics
Z70 for example. I think most people using 65/75% boards will appreciate a selection of 1u keys for the right side.
OK， thank for your information, :)
Post by: Hookerlips on Sat, 01 July 2017, 23:01:44
Post by: OneNightFriend on Sun, 02 July 2017, 09:44:54
Post by: Scarhoof on Wed, 19 July 2017, 00:32:10
Post by: hoq on Mon, 07 August 2017, 20:02:17
I've got a reply from MD, they said they plan to put this keyset in their 2018 schedule.
but we still have to wait for further information before the real launch time has been decided. :))
Thanks so much for you guys' supports in voting for this keyset on poll:
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
Because of your supports, we have got nearly 3000 votes untill now!
Post by: breusch91 on Mon, 07 August 2017, 20:04:15
Hi guys, some good news about this keyset.
I've got a reply from MD, they said they plan to put this keyset in their 2018 schedule.
but we still have to wait for further information before the real launch time has been decided. :))
Thanks so much for you guys' supports in voting for this keyset on poll:
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
Because of your supports, we have got nearly 3000 votes untill now!
That's great news! Any plans to see if Maxkeys can run this as well? They're getting their major molds fixed and are doing custom novelities as well. Could probably have this organized and shipped before Massdrop even gives you a set date for the SP GB.
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Post by: Corgi Butts on Mon, 07 August 2017, 20:13:02
Post by: hoq on Mon, 07 August 2017, 20:21:24
Hi guys, some good news about this keyset.
I've got a reply from MD, they said they plan to put this keyset in their 2018 schedule.
but we still have to wait for further information before the real launch time has been decided. :))
Thanks so much for you guys' supports in voting for this keyset on poll:
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
Because of your supports, we have got nearly 3000 votes untill now!
That's great news! Any plans to see if Maxkeys can run this as well? They're getting their major molds fixed and are doing custom novelities as well. Could probably have this organized and shipped before Massdrop even gives you a set date for the SP GB.
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Thank you for your advice, Maxkey is also very excellent, and I know they are trying to improve their molds and quality.
I think I may ask for a help when I have some other SA plan.
Post by: lithopedion on Tue, 08 August 2017, 10:55:10
Many of you seem to be very interested in Maxkey. Well, I own two sets of Maxkey SA myself, which imo is good, but cannot rival with SP SA. And I definitely will NOT buy if Mechanist turns out as Maxkey.
Anyway, now that it's on MD's schedule, all we need is patience.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 09 August 2017, 00:12:56
Great news! Really looking forward for it! Though I'm not sure if I'm still interested in keycaps next year.
Many of you seem to be very interested in Maxkey. Well, I own two sets of Maxkey SA myself, which imo is good, but cannot rival with SP SA. And I definitely will NOT buy if Mechanist turns out as Maxkey.
Anyway, now that it's on MD's schedule, all we need is patience.
Maxkey is good enough for daily use, but infact, at first I just planned to make this keyset in SA profile first. Don't worry!
Post by: Sylvester on Thu, 17 August 2017, 04:02:51
Post by: KeLorean on Thu, 17 August 2017, 11:57:39
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Post by: SeedyOne on Thu, 17 August 2017, 20:29:57
Post by: Engels on Sat, 19 August 2017, 01:03:48
Post by: hoq on Mon, 21 August 2017, 02:08:28
This looks great! Hope to see more updates.
Thank you, I will update the layout and renders later!
Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 18 December 2017, 03:05:32
Post by: Narandelar on Mon, 18 December 2017, 21:51:14
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 19 December 2017, 23:38:15
Post by: wixxzblu on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:54:23
Post by: Harms on Mon, 01 January 2018, 04:49:16
Hopefully this set will be coming from SP not Maxkey! :)
Hi there :)
I was just wondering why would you rather have SP than Max Key
I noticed more people desire SP even after Max Key fixed some kerning issues. On top of that, SP has longer wait times.
I'm just curious :)
EDIT: I read the previous pages of this thread thoroughly and found out some reasons.
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:45:05
Post by: gorauskas on Mon, 01 January 2018, 15:37:18
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
Post by: ninjacore on Mon, 01 January 2018, 21:38:39
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 03 January 2018, 14:15:24
Post by: BOK on Thu, 04 January 2018, 05:29:54
Post by: Harms on Thu, 04 January 2018, 21:59:12
Not complaining, but amazed at it.
Hopefully the GB will come soon :).
Post by: RSC on Sat, 06 January 2018, 05:08:22
SP sa is more better than maxkey. When it start?
My thoughts exactly..
@hoq
Any chance to add two keys, a 1u ALT and a 1,25u ALT, to the 40% kit?
Post by: hoq on Mon, 08 January 2018, 04:00:50
SP sa is more better than maxkey. When it start?
My thoughts exactly..
@hoq
Any chance to add two keys, a 1u ALT and a 1,25u ALT, to the 40% kit?
Yes, definitely by SP SA.
We will review all the layouts before the GB starts. the 40% kit probably the same with other SA designs.
Post by: breusch91 on Mon, 08 January 2018, 21:00:49
SP sa is more better than maxkey. When it start?
My thoughts exactly..
@hoq
Any chance to add two keys, a 1u ALT and a 1,25u ALT, to the 40% kit?
Yes, definitely by SP SA.
We will review all the layouts before the GB starts. the 40% kit probably the same with other SA designs.
any shot of working in a "ergodox professional" kit, basically the same as the Carbon one from R2 here https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/carbon/ergodox_pro_20170530151142.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1 (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/carbon/ergodox_pro_20170530151142.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1)
Post by: HOBI3CAT on Tue, 09 January 2018, 13:09:36
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Sun, 14 January 2018, 20:21:45
Post by: hoq on Sun, 14 January 2018, 21:18:28
I wrote to MD a again, because of the person in charge was busy at CES, he will consider if they have a slot to run this key set in 2018 schedule , and then give me a reply.
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 14 January 2018, 23:53:02
Hi, thanks for all your guy's supports for this keycaps design.Hopefully they will be able to run it soon, otherwise i prefer other vendors for faster GB
I wrote to MD a again, because of the person in charge was busy at CES, he will consider if they have a slot to run this key set in 2018 schedule , and then give me a reply.
Post by: WarmCat on Fri, 19 January 2018, 18:37:04
(Our “super” keys are where your alt keys are and vice-versa)
Do this and I’m up for a set.
Post by: gorauskas on Fri, 19 January 2018, 21:11:23
Please do 1.5u “super” keys to support non-windows users! Thanks.
(Our “super” keys are where your alt keys are and vice-versa)
Do this and I’m up for a set.
+1 for that ... Amen!
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Wed, 31 January 2018, 00:48:34
Post by: DuckNorris on Thu, 01 February 2018, 00:17:43
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Mon, 05 February 2018, 02:22:18
Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
Post by: pomk on Mon, 05 February 2018, 02:43:34
Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 05 February 2018, 06:08:23
Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
50$ at Signature Plastics, 150Eur for GMK
Post by: pomk on Mon, 05 February 2018, 06:16:11
Is that 150€ for what size of a key? I would imagine that you can get a discount if you buy 50.Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
50$ at Signature Plastics, 150Eur for GMK
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 05 February 2018, 06:23:15
Is that 150€ for what size of a key? I would imagine that you can get a discount if you buy 50.Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
50$ at Signature Plastics, 150Eur for GMK
I'm not aware of price differences between keysizes, maybe there is. Regarding discount, idk either, maybe.
Anyhow, when someone suggests to run a set in GMK, they don't mean that centered legends from SP should be copied over as well, it is implied that GMK's font is used instead.
Post by: WarmCat on Wed, 07 February 2018, 23:49:26
Alternatively stick a couple of 1.5u novelties in there (like MaxKeys lime did).
It’s a great looking set, and it would be a shame to miss out because it won’t fit on my HHKB layout boards.
Post by: hoq on Wed, 07 February 2018, 23:55:28
Since it doesn’t look like you’ll be adding 1.5u “super” keys; command/option keys for OS X users would be nice as an addon set, 1u, 1.25u & 1.5u.
Alternatively stick a couple of 1.5u novelties in there (like MaxKeys lime did).
It’s a great looking set, and it would be a shame to miss out because it won’t fit on my HHKB layout boards.
Hi, Thanks so much for your advice, I’ll review all the kits layout before the GB starts, I haven’t forgot to add a kit for MAC users, don’t be worry !
I’m still waiting for a formal schedule about the group buy. Probably happen in 2018!
Post by: WarmCat on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:43:50
Hi, Thanks so much for your advice, I’ll review all the kits layout before the GB starts, I haven’t forgot to add a kit for MAC users, don’t be worry !Awesome, cheapest option is a couple of 1.5u novelties! Noticed nearly all the new gmk sets coming out now seem to have 1.5u super keys so maybe it’s a “thing” now.
I’m still waiting for a formal schedule about the group buy. Probably happen in 2018!
Anyhoo, really looking forward to this one!
Post by: ronon on Mon, 12 February 2018, 12:54:07
Post by: DuckNorris on Tue, 13 February 2018, 13:21:38
Is that 150€ for what size of a key? I would imagine that you can get a discount if you buy 50.Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
50$ at Signature Plastics, 150Eur for GMK
I'm not aware of price differences between keysizes, maybe there is. Regarding discount, idk either, maybe.
Anyhow, when someone suggests to run a set in GMK, they don't mean that centered legends from SP should be copied over as well, it is implied that GMK's font is used instead.
YES. Right on the dot, sorry for not clarifying but usually how it is when GMK is suggested. Thank you!
Post by: Gamatatsu on Sat, 10 March 2018, 23:35:28
Post by: PotatoTM on Mon, 12 March 2018, 01:09:16
are there any updates on this set?
I believe this was the last update we got, I'm excited to get this set. Hopefully it happens soon, but with SA Pulse R3 coming soon that GB might go first...
(https://i.imgur.com/Hhmi3fe.png])
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 15 March 2018, 08:58:37
KMK Labs.
Post by: Cods on Sun, 25 March 2018, 04:12:54
Post by: hoq on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:19:40
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. Alphas
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen Alphas
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL Adapter
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:30:08
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Neat. I'd personally prefer the alphas over the frozen alphas -- I think there's enough sets out there that do the usual high-contrast stark light alpha/dark modifier combination.
Post by: G1LL3Y on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:01:59
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Neat. I'd personally prefer the alphas over the frozen alphas -- I think there's enough sets out there that do the usual high-contrast stark light alpha/dark modifier combination.
I too like the alphas over the frozen alphas. I would say keep it with a cool color pallet. Do you know what will be the estimated cost of this set?
Post by: G1LL3Y on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:11:43
This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
I'm still fairly new to the hobby, but is there a reason as to why a 1.75U control key is important? And which one of the kits will contain a 1.75U control key?
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:21:02
A large proportion of individuals like to have R3 control instead of capslock due to the infrequent use of capslock. Although its not necessary to have correct legends to do this, it is still nice for individuals who want correct legends.This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
I'm still fairly new to the hobby, but is there a reason as to why a 1.75U control key is important? And which one of the kits will contain a 1.75U control key?
Post by: SolidCactus on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:23:33
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:38:46
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 22 May 2018, 13:17:40
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Post by: PotatoTM on Tue, 22 May 2018, 16:32:14
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Really great to hear you haven't given up on this design! Still very excited to see this happen.
Post by: kyoumau on Tue, 22 May 2018, 18:44:54
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
I'm happy to see news on this.
I like both alphas, especially the frozen alphas. The WFK white is a great color.
Post by: hoq on Tue, 22 May 2018, 19:55:02
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Neat. I'd personally prefer the alphas over the frozen alphas -- I think there's enough sets out there that do the usual high-contrast stark light alpha/dark modifier combination.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Neat. I'd personally prefer the alphas over the frozen alphas -- I think there's enough sets out there that do the usual high-contrast stark light alpha/dark modifier combination.
I too like the alphas over the frozen alphas. I would say keep it with a cool color pallet. Do you know what will be the estimated cost of this set?
Thanks! Alphas' cool tone color is my initial inspiration of this design. I love it very much.
The cost of Mechanist will be similar to those popular SA key sets I think.
Post by: hoq on Tue, 22 May 2018, 20:06:43
This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
I'm still fairly new to the hobby, but is there a reason as to why a 1.75U control key is important? And which one of the kits will contain a 1.75U control key?
HHKB layout users are used to use 1.75U Control on caps lock's position.
Post by: hoq on Tue, 22 May 2018, 20:11:49
I'm digging regular alphas.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Really great to hear you haven't given up on this design! Still very excited to see this happen.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
I'm happy to see news on this.
I like both alphas, especially the frozen alphas. The WFK white is a great color.
Thanks so much ！
Post by: hoq on Tue, 22 May 2018, 20:13:27
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Post by: gnunin on Wed, 23 May 2018, 00:02:40
Post by: stu-rem on Wed, 23 May 2018, 06:52:45
+1A large proportion of individuals like to have R3 control instead of capslock due to the infrequent use of capslock. Although its not necessary to have correct legends to do this, it is still nice for individuals who want correct legends.This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
I'm still fairly new to the hobby, but is there a reason as to why a 1.75U control key is important? And which one of the kits will contain a 1.75U control key?
Many early terminals had Control where IBM PC put CapsLock, and HHKB stays faithful to that (plus less strain on the left little finger, often the weakest.)
My personal preference for CapsLock key is just BBQ IT AND DON'T LET PPL SHOUT IN ALL CAPS! :-)
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Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 24 May 2018, 20:36:20
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Post by: hoq on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:46:20
Can we still expect to see other kits, such as the Ergodox kit and the novelty kit? Or is the new "updated kits" list the only kits being offered. Would really suck to have waited over a year for this gb to even start only to have it stripped down to the basics.
Updates! Yes, Ergodox and some other kits will come soon!
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RqHSCH8/0/c52d7a23/X3/i-RqHSCH8-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XcqKPtm/0/e0b402a9/X3/i-XcqKPtm-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fSC3wLC/0/d6ee0c34/X3/i-fSC3wLC-X3.jpg)
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Post by: sevenseacat on Wed, 30 May 2018, 09:58:41
Post by: Kerasan on Wed, 30 May 2018, 10:10:35
KMK Labs.
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 30 May 2018, 11:36:20
Post by: Tech22 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 14:07:16
Post by: hoq on Wed, 30 May 2018, 20:06:38
Could you add a 1U R3 Fn key to the non-standard kit? That's used in the bottom row of some 65% layouts (Tada68, most Whitefox layouts).
OK, I got it. I 'll add it .
Thank you！
Post by: hoq on Sun, 03 June 2018, 10:56:22
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Post by: Parva Ovis on Sun, 03 June 2018, 12:47:19
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 03 June 2018, 15:00:16
Two R3 Enter keys in the Ortho kit is unnecessary for probably the majority of buyers.
And does anyone actually have a capslock key on a 40% board?
Post by: hoq on Mon, 04 June 2018, 00:03:02
Two R3 Enter keys in the Ortho kit is unnecessary for probably the majority of buyers.
And does anyone actually have a capslock key on a 40% board?
Two R3 Enter keys in the Ortho kit is unnecessary for probably the majority of buyers.
Maybe I made a mistake of that R3 Enter key.
But honestly, I'm not very familiar with the recent 40% keyboards, if you have any advice, please let me know.
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 04 June 2018, 07:29:02
Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jX4GS2p/0/4fe1def6/X3/i-jX4GS2p-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5WGZLHR/0/696c7549/X3/i-5WGZLHR-X3.jpg)
hype!!!
KMK Labs
Post by: dc_in_sf on Mon, 04 June 2018, 17:52:26
Just hope it can happen before the end of 2019!
Post by: hoq on Wed, 06 June 2018, 10:16:54
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jX4GS2p/1/4d5542e1/X3/i-jX4GS2p-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Wed, 06 June 2018, 10:19:17
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JqtcMrb/1/92377f36/X3/i-JqtcMrb-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Wed, 06 June 2018, 10:20:20
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MMPtLpz/0/c2d93812/X3/i-MMPtLpz-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Wed, 06 June 2018, 10:21:18
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-r5wQHM8/0/bc2d84e2/X3/i-r5wQHM8-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Wed, 06 June 2018, 10:25:22
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KcFr8Hq/0/583a76b2/X3/i-KcFr8Hq-X3.jpg)
Post by: elfick on Wed, 06 June 2018, 11:52:43
Post by: hoq on Wed, 06 June 2018, 20:59:21
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
Post by: Lndefinite on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:22:31
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
I've seen some custom split spacebar layouts have a 1.25u in the middle... like this thing http://i.imgur.com/7EXes.png
Post by: hoq on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:29:09
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
I've seen some custom split spacebar layouts have a 1.25u in the middle... like this thing http://i.imgur.com/7EXes.png
That key seems like a FN or layer change function key. Maybe you can use a 1.25u novelty to adapt it.
Post by: Lndefinite on Wed, 06 June 2018, 23:06:28
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
I've seen some custom split spacebar layouts have a 1.25u in the middle... like this thing http://i.imgur.com/7EXes.png
That key seems like a FN or layer change function key. Maybe you can use a 1.25u novelty to adapt it.
Oh yeah, you're right. Hmm, in that case the smallest actual space bar I've seen is 2u on ortho keebs or 40% keebs.
Post by: elfick on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:21:03
Actually the smallest space "bar" is the 1u key on a grid planck. :)How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
I've seen some custom split spacebar layouts have a 1.25u in the middle... like this thing http://i.imgur.com/7EXes.png
That key seems like a FN or layer change function key. Maybe you can use a 1.25u novelty to adapt it.
Oh yeah, you're right. Hmm, in that case the smallest actual space bar I've seen is 2u on ortho keebs or 40% keebs.
In my case the 1.25u blank is actually my space key, but that's my custom layout so I don't expect it to be supported.
The 1.25u novelty would work just as well for my purposes.
Post by: RobotRogue on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:32:46
Post by: clorex on Thu, 07 June 2018, 17:47:25
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Post by: Parva Ovis on Thu, 07 June 2018, 18:09:38
Make it two R1 1.5u keys and there will be support for Race 3 as well.Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Post by: hoq on Fri, 08 June 2018, 00:34:09
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Make it two R1 1.5u keys and there will be support for Race 3 as well.Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Since I haven't got my UHK, I can't tell which special keys need to be added. Do you have a UHK layout map?
I'm cosidering changing the Ergo kit with all blank keys, because every Ergo users always their own key layout, actual legends make no sence for them. 1.5u R1 blank keys are not a problem if the Ergo kit are all blanks.
Post by: clorex on Fri, 08 June 2018, 00:54:03
Yup, there's this handy page on the official website:Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.Make it two R1 1.5u keys and there will be support for Race 3 as well.Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Since I haven't got my UHK, I can't tell which special keys need to be added. Do you have a UHK layout map?
I'm cosidering changing the Ergo kit with all blank keys, because every Ergo users always their own key layout, actual legends make no sence for them. 1.5u R1 blank keys are not a problem if the Ergo kit are all blanks.
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/layout-and-keycaps
Post by: hoq on Fri, 08 June 2018, 01:56:39
Yup, there's this handy page on the official website:
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/layout-and-keycaps
OK, That helps a lot! Thanks!
Post by: imdiedie on Fri, 08 June 2018, 02:53:08
Post by: hoq on Fri, 08 June 2018, 09:46:34
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JScLtsH/0/edf2609e/X3/i-JScLtsH-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Fri, 08 June 2018, 09:47:19
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MsBCGTg/0/93e72bcf/X3/i-MsBCGTg-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Fri, 08 June 2018, 09:48:43
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3mZ43Pt/0/071bb334/X3/i-3mZ43Pt-X3.jpg)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Sat, 09 June 2018, 07:56:35
Post by: hoq on Sat, 09 June 2018, 10:23:58
looks nice! definitely will join in:)
Thanks, I'll make all the drawings done soon, and the group-buy will start sooner than we thought. :p
Post by: LastBrat on Sat, 09 June 2018, 10:25:32
Post by: JamesShaw on Sat, 09 June 2018, 10:26:04
Post by: hoq on Sat, 09 June 2018, 10:47:24
Is there a reason why the ortho kit does not contain any Del, Ctrl, Win, Alt or Fn keycaps?
I add a Ctrl and Alt keys in Ortho kit.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-xG3zRCV/0/010aac1b/X3/i-xG3zRCV-X3.jpg)
But for other 1u keys you mentioned,
I checked Dasher, Godspeed, they also ignored these keys, maybe because those 1u keys can be found in other kits.
Post by: LastBrat on Sat, 09 June 2018, 11:18:16
Is there a reason why the ortho kit does not contain any Del, Ctrl, Win, Alt or Fn keycaps?
I add a Ctrl and Alt keys in Ortho kit.
But for other 1u keys you mentioned,
I checked Dasher, Godspeed, they also ignored these keys, maybe because those 1u keys can be found in other kits.
That's probably because most "ortho" kits only give you the default Planck keyboard caps, but ignore all other possible layouts. And that's a shame. I would not pay for TKL modifiers to get 1 keycap (Del), for example. To me, an ortho kit is something you combine with the alphas, and you're done. There are many other ortho keyboards, like 5x12, 5x14, 5x15 caps, where you'd definitely miss a lot of caps. If you want to sell more ortho sets, I suggest to make it more complete, otherwise it will be very expensive because only the Gherkin or Planck buyers will use it. Your choice of course.
Post by: SolidCactus on Sat, 09 June 2018, 11:44:25
Post by: kyoumau on Sat, 09 June 2018, 20:26:06
Can we still expect to see other kits, such as the Ergodox kit and the novelty kit? Or is the new "updated kits" list the only kits being offered. Would really suck to have waited over a year for this gb to even start only to have it stripped down to the basics.
Updates! Yes, Ergodox and some other kits will come soon!Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RqHSCH8/0/c52d7a23/X3/i-RqHSCH8-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XcqKPtm/0/e0b402a9/X3/i-XcqKPtm-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fSC3wLC/0/d6ee0c34/X3/i-fSC3wLC-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zHnWPFH/0/db938e3e/X3/i-zHnWPFH-X3.jpg)
What about joining together the frozen alphas and the numbers from the frozen numpad? like the zambs from pulse.
Post by: hoq on Sat, 09 June 2018, 23:30:25
Quote
Yup, there's this handy page on the official website:
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/layout-and-keycaps
I got a final product photo, they look not the same with that layout map.
I think I have to make a new kit to fit UHK and Minila.
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/colored-uhks-mini-batch-1.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Sun, 10 June 2018, 01:38:10
Quote
What about joining together the frozen alphas and the numbers from the frozen numpad? like the zambs from pulse.
Yes, a good idea, I modified it.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5NHhtzr/0/82abefe2/X3/i-5NHhtzr-X3.jpg)
Post by: hoq on Sun, 10 June 2018, 01:39:25
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Mechanist/n-rtRxNj/i-TRFDCfP/0/2aefebf2/O/i-TRFDCfP.jpg)
Post by: Daellin on Sun, 10 June 2018, 11:54:07
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
Post by: hoq on Mon, 11 June 2018, 07:14:06
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Post by: yap68 on Mon, 11 June 2018, 08:24:18
Post by: Daellin on Mon, 11 June 2018, 23:32:08
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
As Yap mentioned, some people prefer aiming for a more "standard" look, albeit the novelty arrows are nice. Just for people who like the colorway, but aren't looking for novelties.
Post by: goodman247 on Tue, 12 June 2018, 00:01:58
Post by: hoq on Tue, 12 June 2018, 01:05:08
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
As Yap mentioned, some people prefer aiming for a more "standard" look, albeit the novelty arrows are nice. Just for people who like the colorway, but aren't looking for novelties.
OK, I got it , i will try to make a kit to show how they look.
The arrow graphics like Oblivion , not the trangle graphics like Carbon, right？
Post by: hoq on Tue, 12 June 2018, 11:21:39
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RgDsqS8/0/7c3d945b/X2/i-RgDsqS8-X2.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qLX5VWh/1/877b0718/O/i-qLX5VWh.jpg)
Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 12 June 2018, 11:31:18
Post by: Parva Ovis on Tue, 12 June 2018, 12:40:01
Post by: clorex on Wed, 13 June 2018, 12:39:31
? They look the same to me.QuoteYup, there's this handy page on the official website:
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/layout-and-keycaps
I got a final product photo, they look not the same with that layout map.
I think I have to make a new kit to fit UHK and Minila.Show Image(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/colored-uhks-mini-batch-1.jpg)
Post by: Techbuys on Wed, 13 June 2018, 21:49:20
Post by: azulyf on Wed, 13 June 2018, 22:57:00
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 13 June 2018, 23:43:24
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
leopold 660 layout needs 2 2.25u keys
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 14 June 2018, 00:05:15
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
leopold 660 layout needs 2 2.25u keys
I think he was asking about the two 2.25U blank spacekeys in the spacekeys kit, not the 2.25U shift key in the non-standard kit.
Post by: hoq on Thu, 14 June 2018, 09:40:54
No! The novelty arrows are my favorite part of SA Mechanist! :( Please leave the BBJ arrows as the novelty version.
I love that novelty arrows too, but i'm not sure whether the graphics can be moldable or not, the letters "N,f,F,G"are too thin.
l'll leave them in the novelties.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Mechanist/n-rtRxNj/i-sfkDCM2/0/5c38160e/O/i-sfkDCM2.jpg)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 14 June 2018, 10:18:54
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
leopold 660 layout needs 2 2.25u keys
I think he was asking about the two 2.25U blank spacekeys in the spacekeys kit, not the 2.25U shift key in the non-standard kit.
split spacebar, it's a popular setup in china i believe
Post by: azulyf on Thu, 14 June 2018, 12:42:39
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
leopold 660 layout needs 2 2.25u keys
I think he was asking about the two 2.25U blank spacekeys in the spacekeys kit, not the 2.25U shift key in the non-standard kit.
split spacebar, it's a popular setup in china i believe
I'm not quite familiar with 40s, I saw several split space bars with 1.75+2, 2+2.25 etc. but haven't seen any requires two 2.25. Besides, the 2.25-1.25-2.75 split space scheme used in 60% does look bad with a mod color key in between.
Post by: hoq on Sun, 17 June 2018, 08:57:54
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MsBCGTg/1/3a379575/O/i-MsBCGTg.jpg)
Post by: otanishock on Mon, 18 June 2018, 18:40:02
Post by: Techbuys on Tue, 19 June 2018, 00:49:45
Post by: sevenseacat on Tue, 19 June 2018, 01:34:52
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 19 June 2018, 09:27:25
In just six days? Where??
probably in the GB subforum
Post by: Techbuys on Wed, 20 June 2018, 00:19:16
In just six days? Where??
I should clarify that the 25th is a tentative date but we're confident that we'll be able to hit it. There's just a few things we need to iron out before the launch.
The group buy will be held on https://techbuys.us but we'll also post it here to make sure everyone knows that it's live.
Post by: Techbuys on Wed, 20 June 2018, 00:21:32
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Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 June 2018, 00:22:16
Also, here's a cute 65% render for you guys. more renders coming soon.
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i like this
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 20 June 2018, 00:29:42
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Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 20 June 2018, 03:55:17
Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 20 June 2018, 04:00:15
Oh damn, we got some physics up in this bish. I'm sure this was clarified somewhere within this thread and I was just too lazy to look it up. Thanks for the clarification Lightning.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 20 June 2018, 04:13:44
Oh damn, we got some physics up in this bish. I'm sure this was clarified somewhere within this thread and I was just too lazy to look it up. Thanks for the clarification Lightning.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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This bish was a physics major so I had to explain. Put myself to some good use, which isn't as frequent as you might think. It reminds me of those SA Camping arrows with the cardinal directions. I'm personally not a huge fan of these sublegended arrows, but maybe I'll like them better after seeing them in real life?
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Post by: Parva Ovis on Wed, 20 June 2018, 08:07:20
Technically, if it is supposed to be gravity it should be little g, and if it is supposed to be a force it should be mg, because gravity all by itself is just acceleration and big G is the gravitational constant.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 20 June 2018, 08:33:17
Technically, if it is supposed to be gravity it should be little g, and if it is supposed to be a force it should be mg, because gravity all by itself is just acceleration and big G is the gravitational constant.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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You're not wrong. It should be mg with the vectorial hat on top of the g. I didn't catch it at first glance.
Post by: Techbuys on Thu, 21 June 2018, 10:14:24
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Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 21 June 2018, 11:19:06
Nice little TKL render
(Attachment Link)
Looks great. I'm excited for this.
Post by: Techbuys on Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:29:51
Nice little TKL render
(Attachment Link)
Looks great. I'm excited for this.
Glad to hear that you're excited! It really is a beautiful set!
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 24 June 2018, 19:27:07
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Is this GB currently going on or will go on soon? Any plan where this GB will be held? thank you so much.
this is amazing.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 24 June 2018, 19:34:36
Nice little TKL render
(Attachment Link)
Looks great. I'm excited for this.
Oh boye, this is going to sell thousands of sets! Another big hit in the making!
Glad to hear that you're excited! It really is a beautiful set!
Post by: hoq on Mon, 25 June 2018, 01:15:36
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Is this GB currently going on or will go on soon? Any plan where this GB will be held? thank you so much.
this is amazing.
Hi, I heard back from techbuys.us, they will start group-buy in 1 week from now.
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 25 June 2018, 05:01:27
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Is this GB currently going on or will go on soon? Any plan where this GB will be held? thank you so much.
this is amazing.
Hi, I heard back from techbuys.us, they will start group-buy in 1 week from now.
the GB will not start on massdrop?
KMK Labs.
Post by: speedyzy on Tue, 26 June 2018, 15:06:46
Post by: ThePewster on Tue, 26 June 2018, 15:44:47
Post by: Techbuys on Tue, 26 June 2018, 20:36:13
Thanks for showing your support for Hoq's set. It's one of my favorites and we're really excited to launch it for him. We wanted to take a minute to apologize for the delay. We decided a few weeks ago that our site/infrastructure wasn't inline with what we wanted for when we launched. We're working as quickly as we can to get the new solution up and running. We've finished configuring the server and most of the DB. We'll be launching in a beta state so that we don't have to delay the buy more than about a week (we'll finish the site as the GB is running).
Thanks for your patience! You can register to be notified when we launch at https://techbuys.us.
Additionally, there should be two more renders coming (if we can get things worked out with kbrenders support). One full size and one 60% with frost alphas instead of the regular ones. The full size didn't come out right and the 60% was sadly never delivered. If we don't get it resolved in the next few days, we'll just pay for new ones.
Best,
Zachary
Post by: sevenseacat on Tue, 26 June 2018, 22:49:26
Post by: euphxenos on Tue, 26 June 2018, 23:37:04
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 27 June 2018, 00:03:03
Weighing up whether or not I want to trust a brand-new vendor with a fair bit of money... why couldn't an established vendor be used?
yeah... I have the same question...
Some information on the vendor will be appreciated
Post by: cgrums on Wed, 27 June 2018, 09:53:36
Post by: Techbuys on Fri, 29 June 2018, 02:40:26
Weighing up whether or not I want to trust a brand-new vendor with a fair bit of money... why couldn't an established vendor be used?
yeah... I have the same question...
Some information on the vendor will be appreciated
If you guys have any specific questions, please feel free to ask! We'd love to answer them. As far as why another company isn't handling it, I can't really speak fully on that since we weren't part of those negotiations. I can say that MD quickly books through the entire year so they likely don't have room. From the updates that Hoq posted here and on the poll, it seemed that MD was keeping him on the back-burner just in case they needed to fill a slot. We thought the design was good enough to be scheduled right away.
Additionally, something that only applies to our Chinese fans. zF will be handling Chinese orders to allow for easier payment and shipping.
While we wait for Techbuys to build a web site to sell this to us, do you at least have pricing information for the kits?
Yes! We're updating the pricing sheet right now. I'll post it tomorrow for you guys.
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Two more renders will be posted in the next couple of days for you guys. They'll show off the Frost alphas since we haven't given you any renders for those!
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Remember to register to be notified when we launch at https://techbuys.us and you're always free to email us at cs@techbuys.us.
Post by: sevenseacat on Fri, 29 June 2018, 06:02:29
a) I don't know you. You have no reputation here.
b) With so many kits, a lot of them are not likely to reach MOQ, especially given it's not on Massdrop.
c) Prices will be higher because sales are lower.
I'd much prefer to see this on a platform like Massdrop, even if it means waiting a while.
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 29 June 2018, 12:31:21
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 29 June 2018, 12:41:37
KMK Labs.
Post by: Techbuys on Sat, 30 June 2018, 06:48:27
actually it is pretentious to start out as a new store with a GB of SP. all the new stores have been working with immediate distribution products before tackling similar projects. I do not approve of this choice. then obviously it is the last word to the creator of the set.
KMK Labs.
Hey KMK,
We're sorry that you feel that way. I'm not sure there's anything that we can say to you that we're capable of running this group buy. All 4 of us involved have experience working with a group buy company and have no doubt that we're up to the challenge.
Additionally, we will be running other, smaller group buys. Things like switches (Kailh box switches planned) and mimic-cable custom cables.
If you end up joining the group buy, we'll be excited for the opportunity to deliver excellent service.
There's also an issue with an unknown new vendor using an SP SA set as their first product. With the long lead times on SA sets from SP, we're likely to lose Paypal protection before the group buy would nominally be fulfilled (and that's *if* this store takes Paypal, which we don't know, because the web site doesn't even exist yet).
Hey Euphxenos,
We won't be accepting PayPal in the beginning but if there's enough interest, we'd be happy to add that payment option in the future. We do understand the concerns though. We'll be allowing cancellations and full refunds while the group buy is live and if there's any delay with SP (which we don't expect), we'll allow cancellations for anyone who doesn't want to wait. We're enthusiasts ourselves and we want to be fully transparent with all of our members. Our goal is to deliver the best service available.
My issues are:
a) I don't know you. You have no reputation here.
b) With so many kits, a lot of them are not likely to reach MOQ, especially given it's not on Massdrop.
c) Prices will be higher because sales are lower.
I'd much prefer to see this on a platform like Massdrop, even if it means waiting a while.
Hey sevenseacat,
All three points are very valid. For point A, there's not really much we can say. We don't have a reputation on Geekhack but we do intend to build one. In addition to this group buy, we'll be running smaller ones to help establish us with the community. Unfortunately, those will run concurrently or after the SA Mechanist GB so it won't really help point A. We're hopeful most will meet at least the first MOQ tier since Hoq wanted us to lower the price points down to the 50 MOQ mark. For C, prices may be slightly higher than on Massdrop depending on how many kits are sold. If there's enough interest then the prices could end up being very comparable with Massdrop SP group buys.
As far as preferring to wait for MD, the poll has been open for over a year and has 4,412 votes yet they haven't given any information other than "We plan to, at some point". If Hoq had waited for MD, it's likely that the wait would have been at least into 2019 before the group buy even started.
As a mechanical engineer I'm very tempted by this. Love the colors and novelties!
Hey Cgrums,
We're glad you like the set! I'm personally probably more excited for this set than many I've seen lately. I think it's absolutely gorgeous. You should absolutely consider joining the group buy!
While we wait for Techbuys to build a web site to sell this to us, do you at least have pricing information for the kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
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Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 30 June 2018, 07:04:33
[wall of text]
If not PayPal, what other payment options are available?
And the pricing you are showing looks like pricing from SP to me. How much will kits end up actually costing buyers after factoring in handling, payment fees and profit margins?
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 30 June 2018, 07:35:30
And there's little to no chance of kits like Colevrak and many others getting to MOQ when you're off on your own platform. This makes me really sad :/
Post by: Techbuys on Sat, 30 June 2018, 08:13:09
[wall of text]
If not PayPal, what other payment options are available?
And the pricing you are showing looks like pricing from SP to me. How much will kits end up actually costing buyers after factoring in handling, payment fees and profit margins?
For this group buy, we'll only be accepting credit/debit cards.
As far as the costs, those aren't the SP prices. Those are the final prices that account for payment fees and profit. Though, it should be noted that the price does not include shipping. Domestic shipping will likely be a flat $8.00
Post by: beekey on Sat, 30 June 2018, 08:51:01
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Any reason why the Frozen Alphas are so much more expensive? Should be the same as the normal Alphas, right?
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 30 June 2018, 08:54:36
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Any reason why the Frozen Alphas are so much more expensive? Should be the same as the normal Alphas, right?
Includes numpad portion
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 June 2018, 09:59:44
[wall of text]
If not PayPal, what other payment options are available?
And the pricing you are showing looks like pricing from SP to me. How much will kits end up actually costing buyers after factoring in handling, payment fees and profit margins?
For this group buy, we'll only be accepting credit/debit cards.
As far as the costs, those aren't the SP prices. Those are the final prices that account for payment fees and profit. Though, it should be noted that the price does not include shipping. Domestic shipping will likely be a flat $8.00
cool i'm out then
paypal only for GBs thank u
Post by: beekey on Sat, 30 June 2018, 12:24:35
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Any reason why the Frozen Alphas are so much more expensive? Should be the same as the normal Alphas, right?
Includes numpad portion
Ok, thats strange. Why combine it for one colour and not the other? Would prefer not to combine at all, but that's just me not having keyboards with a numpad.
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 30 June 2018, 19:37:07
- Do you have pictures of the Mods and Icon Mods kits?
- Are you offering the Mech Tools and the Gears kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Pricing in graph form:
(https://i.imgur.com/EZWjUXw.png)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 01 July 2018, 14:03:32
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 02 July 2018, 13:52:59
Two questions:
- Do you have pictures of the Mods and Icon Mods kits?
- Are you offering the Mech Tools and the Gears kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Pricing in graph form:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EZWjUXw.png)
Hey man, how r u?
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 02 July 2018, 14:44:38
Two questions:
- Do you have pictures of the Mods and Icon Mods kits?
- Are you offering the Mech Tools and the Gears kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Pricing in graph form:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EZWjUXw.png)
Hey man, how r u?
I'm doing well. How about you?
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:05:38
Two questions:
- Do you have pictures of the Mods and Icon Mods kits?
- Are you offering the Mech Tools and the Gears kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Pricing in graph form:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EZWjUXw.png)
Hey man, how r u?
I'm doing well. How about you?
:) :) :)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 17:06:24
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:44:00
Post by: lzlzh035 on Thu, 05 July 2018, 07:49:10
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 05 July 2018, 17:33:23
Post by: xondat on Thu, 05 July 2018, 19:16:11
Let’s get this going pls.
Here's a patience token.
It's been less than a week :))
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 09 July 2018, 19:55:09
Let’s get this going pls.
Here's a patience token.
It's been less than a week :))
Feels like forever
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 10 July 2018, 02:55:05
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 10 July 2018, 17:20:21
Let’s get this going pls.
I just checked their website (https://techbuys.us). It now has a countdown which is currently saying "we are getting ready to launch in 5 hours 42 minutes" - midnight EDT. Not sure if this means just the website or the keycap set too, but we should know soon.
Post by: euphxenos on Tue, 10 July 2018, 18:25:29
Let’s get this going pls.
I just checked their website (https://techbuys.us). It now has a countdown which is currently saying "we are getting ready to launch in 5 hours 42 minutes" - midnight EDT. Not sure if this means just the website or the keycap set too, but we should know soon.
I just looked, and now the countdown says 7 hours and 38 minutes. There was a countdown before, but when it hit zero all that happened was that the countdown went away, and there was still no site there.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 10 July 2018, 19:03:54
Let’s get this going pls.
I just checked their website (https://techbuys.us). It now has a countdown which is currently saying "we are getting ready to launch in 5 hours 42 minutes" - midnight EDT. Not sure if this means just the website or the keycap set too, but we should know soon.
I just looked, and now the countdown says 7 hours and 38 minutes. There was a countdown before, but when it hit zero all that happened was that the countdown went away, and there was still no site there.
Still counting down. Let me check with HOQ.
Post by: hoq on Tue, 10 July 2018, 19:51:01
Let’s get this going pls.
I just checked their website (https://techbuys.us). It now has a countdown which is currently saying "we are getting ready to launch in 5 hours 42 minutes" - midnight EDT. Not sure if this means just the website or the keycap set too, but we should know soon.
I just looked, and now the countdown says 7 hours and 38 minutes. There was a countdown before, but when it hit zero all that happened was that the countdown went away, and there was still no site there.
Still counting down. Let me check with HOQ.
I'm so sorry that make you all waiting so long.
I wrote to Techbuys.us to ask for the reason, but it seems their server is still not ready, and haven't reply me yet.
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 11 July 2018, 01:11:23
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 11 July 2018, 01:53:35
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 11 July 2018, 08:11:20
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Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 11 July 2018, 19:22:33
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 12 July 2018, 13:01:10
Yea I'm very disappointed at this time. I've been excited for this set for some time and it sucked when it got put on the backburner. Then it got brought back and seemed to be heading in the right direction. But then you chose a brand new vendor, that didnt even have an up and running website to run this. Alright, maybe I can get behind it if they seem to show good direction. Then "we arn't accepting paypal" , uhhhh what... Thats 99% of transactions in this community. Now they've become completely silent. For an established vendor thats one thing. For someone trying to set up shop and gain the trust of the community that doesn't seem to be a good decision on their part.
Hope Zfrontier will pick this up.
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 12 July 2018, 20:11:58
Yea I'm very disappointed at this time. I've been excited for this set for some time and it sucked when it got put on the backburner. Then it got brought back and seemed to be heading in the right direction. But then you chose a brand new vendor, that didnt even have an up and running website to run this. Alright, maybe I can get behind it if they seem to show good direction. Then "we arn't accepting paypal" , uhhhh what... Thats 99% of transactions in this community. Now they've become completely silent. For an established vendor thats one thing. For someone trying to set up shop and gain the trust of the community that doesn't seem to be a good decision on their part.
Hope Zfrontier will pick this up.
zFrontier, NovelKeys, DixieMech, The Keycompany, Mykeyboard.eu, etc. There are million of other good and respectable vendors out there for each corresponding proxy. I just don't get why Hoq consistently decided to go with a newly established vendor with little to no reputation who was unresponsive and does not even accept Paypal for such a hyped up and highly anticipated set! 😥
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 12 July 2018, 20:21:18
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 13 July 2018, 23:21:20
Post by: PotatoTM on Sat, 14 July 2018, 00:41:35
https://techbuys.us/mechkeys/groupbuy/sa_mechanist.php
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 14 July 2018, 00:56:18
It seems it is now live on techbuys.us:
https://techbuys.us/mechkeys/groupbuy/sa_mechanist.php
Did you "SIGN UP OR LOGIN"?
Post by: PotatoTM on Sat, 14 July 2018, 00:56:53
It seems it is now live on techbuys.us:
https://techbuys.us/mechkeys/groupbuy/sa_mechanist.php
Did you "SIGN UP OR LOGIN"?
Did both, yes.
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 14 July 2018, 02:18:16
Sorry, there are just *way* too many red flags here. Really disappointed :(
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 14 July 2018, 03:25:01
Post by: DasGnome on Sat, 14 July 2018, 04:42:36
Post by: gutsack on Sat, 14 July 2018, 12:38:57
Post by: otanishock on Sat, 14 July 2018, 17:03:30
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sat, 14 July 2018, 18:18:37
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 16 July 2018, 04:45:26
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Post by: oldcat on Mon, 16 July 2018, 12:47:36
Post by: beerafffe1 on Mon, 16 July 2018, 13:31:21
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 16 July 2018, 13:40:12
So we need to register to even see the kits and pricing?
That appears to be the case, yes.
Post by: beekey on Mon, 16 July 2018, 15:58:41
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Mon, 16 July 2018, 16:06:31
Post by: otanishock on Mon, 16 July 2018, 16:20:43
Post by: KaidaT on Mon, 16 July 2018, 21:45:10
Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 17 July 2018, 01:22:55
Joined when I received the notification email.
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 17 July 2018, 06:20:37
KMK Labs.
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 18 July 2018, 12:54:05
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Post by: oldcat on Wed, 18 July 2018, 14:17:36
Post by: PotatoTM on Thu, 19 July 2018, 13:14:39
hoq please open a new thread in the GB section (and maybe on other forums), could get more buyers :P.
Post by: BJW on Thu, 19 July 2018, 20:41:46
Post by: otanishock on Fri, 20 July 2018, 01:22:37
How do I join this GB?
This is exactly what I'm worrying about. When you have to ask yourself that., it literally screams problems out loud. The GB is currently held over at techbuy.us, but I'd be very very cautious if I were you. Anyways good luck with the GB. I'm just sad that it turns out like this.
Post by: PotatoTM on Fri, 20 July 2018, 01:26:43
How do I join this GB?
https://techbuys.us/mechkeys/groupbuy/sa_mechanist.php
Post by: hoq on Fri, 20 July 2018, 02:12:03
According to the rules of the forum, I have to lock this IC thread, because the GB have started now.
You can go to https://techbuys.us/mechkeys/groupbuy/sa_mechanist.php
to chose what you like to buy.
Thank you for you all.