Post by: ai03 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 11:52:31
(https://i.imgur.com/E5LkTKx.jpg)
Vega
Screwless seamless gasket 65% keyboard by Kevinplus and ai03
Latest update: GB begun at TypePlus; prepping a GB thread for this board. Latest update post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106983.msg2984835#msg2984835)
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Refining upon Polaris and its gasket typing feel, acoustics, and aesthetics, Vega takes things one step further with a steel weight, completely screwless exterior, and refined build process.
(https://i.imgur.com/Q7xgza3.jpg)
Tailor-Made Typing Experience
Vega brings the extreme typing comfort and acoustic tuning to the 65% form factor, using 28 custom gaskets to completely isolate the plate from the case.
A precision-cut foam midlayer and dual stack bottom foam layer allows for precise tuning to balance acoustics and typing feel to your exact preference.
(https://i.imgur.com/EhcQBBA.jpg)
The Reference Aesthetic
The clean, sleek, seamless exterior of Vega has no visible exterior screws, which are conveniently hidden under the keycaps for an uninterrupted minimal aesthetic regardless of the viewing angle.
The immense rear-angled weight is made entirely of stainless steel, providing the elegance and heft worthy of being the centerpiece of your desk.
(https://i.imgur.com/JeXIkMA.jpg)
Stress-Free Circuitry
The thin, flex-slotted hotswap PCB comes pre-installed with VIA Configurator compatible firmware, ready for lightning-fast assembly and easy keymap editing without the headaches of drivers and firmware flashing.
A solderable PCB kit is available for those who prefer soldering or non-stock layouts.
(https://i.imgur.com/yyIxRZW.jpg)
Thorough Engineering
The centered USB cutout allows for a neutral cable position fit for any desk, and careful design allows for maximized comfort and acoustics even with a hotswap structure.
Temporary plate retention screws aid the build process while also protecting the plate inside the case during shipping.
(https://i.imgur.com/WtZRjB4.png)
Specifications
Case weight: ~1.4kg
Plate materials: Aluminum, Polycarbonate
Dimensions: 315 x 110 x 28mm
Typing angle: 6.5deg
Price: TBA
Vendor, availability: TBA
Optional add-ons: Soldering kit (Universal plate and soldering PCB)
Colors: Black, Grey, E-White, Blue, Green, Rose Gold
Layouts
Default hotswap:
(https://i.imgur.com/xwjfRDz.png)
Optional add-on soldering kit:
(https://i.imgur.com/005JRvo.png)
Special Thanks
TC for help with rendering
Gok for render keycap models
Vega
Screwless seamless gasket 65% keyboard by Kevinplus and ai03
Latest update: GB begun at TypePlus; prepping a GB thread for this board. Latest update post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106983.msg2984835#msg2984835)
For faster updates, join ai03’s Discord server here (https://discord.com/invite/qA5JD9y)
Refining upon Polaris and its gasket typing feel, acoustics, and aesthetics, Vega takes things one step further with a steel weight, completely screwless exterior, and refined build process.
(https://i.imgur.com/Q7xgza3.jpg)
Tailor-Made Typing Experience
Vega brings the extreme typing comfort and acoustic tuning to the 65% form factor, using 28 custom gaskets to completely isolate the plate from the case.
A precision-cut foam midlayer and dual stack bottom foam layer allows for precise tuning to balance acoustics and typing feel to your exact preference.
(https://i.imgur.com/EhcQBBA.jpg)
The Reference Aesthetic
The clean, sleek, seamless exterior of Vega has no visible exterior screws, which are conveniently hidden under the keycaps for an uninterrupted minimal aesthetic regardless of the viewing angle.
The immense rear-angled weight is made entirely of stainless steel, providing the elegance and heft worthy of being the centerpiece of your desk.
(https://i.imgur.com/JeXIkMA.jpg)
Stress-Free Circuitry
The thin, flex-slotted hotswap PCB comes pre-installed with VIA Configurator compatible firmware, ready for lightning-fast assembly and easy keymap editing without the headaches of drivers and firmware flashing.
A solderable PCB kit is available for those who prefer soldering or non-stock layouts.
(https://i.imgur.com/yyIxRZW.jpg)
Thorough Engineering
The centered USB cutout allows for a neutral cable position fit for any desk, and careful design allows for maximized comfort and acoustics even with a hotswap structure.
Temporary plate retention screws aid the build process while also protecting the plate inside the case during shipping.
(https://i.imgur.com/WtZRjB4.png)
Specifications
Case weight: ~1.4kg
Plate materials: Aluminum, Polycarbonate
Dimensions: 315 x 110 x 28mm
Typing angle: 6.5deg
Price: TBA
Vendor, availability: TBA
Optional add-ons: Soldering kit (Universal plate and soldering PCB)
Colors: Black, Grey, E-White, Blue, Green, Rose Gold
Layouts
Default hotswap:
(https://i.imgur.com/xwjfRDz.png)
Optional add-on soldering kit:
(https://i.imgur.com/005JRvo.png)
Special Thanks
TC for help with rendering
Gok for render keycap models
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 11:52:58
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(https://i.imgur.com/6ENWpZ7.png)
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Photos of prototype r3
(https://i.imgur.com/RSdR2Xu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rsYZoGd.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/UQr5own.png)
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Post by: konstantin on Tue, 16 June 2020, 11:59:25
>seamless screwless
me:
>moneyless
Post by: SolidCactus on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:00:51
Post by: foysauce_ on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:02:11
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Post by: FunBox on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:02:53
Take my money
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Post by: syberghost on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:07:06
him:
>seamless screwless
me:
>moneyless
Sell a kidney. Having two is just hoarding.
Post by: crispgm on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:07:20
I experienced Polaris from my friend, it is with great acoustic and so sleek. Having been waiting for this so far, Vega looks even better.
Post by: modern on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:08:13
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Post by: n.rdy on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:09:52
In summary... I’m interested.
Post by: Helpingly on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:12:05
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:12:32
Do we need to pay extra to get the soldering PCB/plate combo or can we just choose that instead of hotswap at the same base price?
Will be a separate add-on outside of base cost, just to simplify logistics so Kevinplus doesn't get sent to the hospital from overworking
Brooooooo wow! Why do you even post IC’s, everything you make looks like it had been bestowed upon us by the gods.
In summary... I’m interested.
Thank Kevin for the wallpaper-grade renders
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Post by: ai03 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:05:08
Nice! Would you consider adding underglow LEDs to the PCB for the PC version?
No PC version this time around; the thin supports for the internal screws would shatter.
It's been nice following along the developments of this, and great to see the IC materialize - it looks great, and I'm definitely in for it. Do we have an idea of when it may go to GB by any chance?
Timeline TBA. Currently still sorting out the last of the details.
Been waiting for this ;D Will there be color options for the weight? I see black and grey with the protos.
Still deciding on this last factor, but currently both Kevinplus and I are leaning towards all black.
Maybe silver weight for black case, but the proto wasn't too spectacular in terms of durability so there'd need to be another finishing method.
Post by: izroll on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:06:03
Post by: Pepsi KB on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:06:38
Post by: hingchannnn on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:10:57
Btw, why don't you include a brass plate option like the Polaris? Cut down on number of sku?
Post by: konnstann on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:12:58
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Post by: ai03 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:17:13
Looks interesting. What will the pricing be?
TBA, but not unnecessarily high
Nice wallpapers.
Btw, why don't you include a brass plate option like the Polaris? Cut down on number of sku?
Too many QC failed brass parts with Polaris
Post by: Pepsi KB on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:19:32
Awesome. I am looking into a 65% build for in the future, so this looks like an option.Looks interesting. What will the pricing be?
TBA, but not unnecessarily highNice wallpapers.
Btw, why don't you include a brass plate option like the Polaris? Cut down on number of sku?
Too many QC failed brass parts with Polaris
Post by: haiichuu on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:21:58
Thank you for your hard work (and pls get some sleep)
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Post by: Gati on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:51:44
Will the Vega be limited in quantity? I really don’t wanna fight for this board lol
Post by: PikaJoyce on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:52:21
Post by: frankyusa0409 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:56:16
Unfavored take -Ppl will like it but still would prefer a limited run. Smoother process perhaps
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in
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EDIT: Whoops, just saw it in the measurements image - 17.4mm. :thumbs:
Post by: Krzew on Tue, 16 June 2020, 15:12:43
Post by: X_point on Tue, 16 June 2020, 15:20:49
Looks interesting. What will the pricing be?
TBA, but not unnecessarily highNice wallpapers.
Btw, why don't you include a brass plate option like the Polaris? Cut down on number of sku?
Too many QC failed brass parts with Polaris
Apologize for harping on this but do you have an total cost estimate (including shipping?) I understand this will be more than polaris simply because more material. But an estimate would be great.
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Would it be possible to only get a pcb and a plate made later on (since you're pretty good about doing making open source consistently, which ty btw)
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 16 June 2020, 16:31:50
Really like the looks of this. If you're not completely locked into the hotswap pcb being the default, I would personally prefer the soldering to be the default or better yet, just be given a choice between the two. Prefer not to pay for a hotswap pcb I don't need.
Same.
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two best plate materials and not a fan of fr4 for sound and brass for feel, love to see it.
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down for this
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And perhaps Alps support on the pcb?
Post by: MrPersePolis on Tue, 16 June 2020, 20:24:13
Would you consider a PC version, if there's a demand for it?
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Post by: blizzara01 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 23:33:28
vega vega vega
vega vega vega
I need that split spacebar.
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vega vega vega
vega vega vega
I need that split spacebar.
vega vega vega
Post by: Vexendolz on Wed, 17 June 2020, 04:11:26
Any Burgundy will be added ?
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Post by: konstantin on Wed, 17 June 2020, 11:43:05
I missed the Polaris but have been really looking forward to the Andromeda and now the Vega! Love the star themed names, what's next - Antares/Rigel? :)
Next up: Betelgeuse — a 122-key battleship :P
Post by: neutralstate on Wed, 17 June 2020, 12:10:28
is the r2 proto gray?
Post by: migrained on Wed, 17 June 2020, 12:30:14
Rose Gold or Purple please :)
Post by: deepmail on Wed, 17 June 2020, 14:17:04
Edit: given the Polaris' reputation (which I was only recently made aware of) I think this will be a buy for me, so long as it stays under $400
Post by: Clay333 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 15:33:20
Post by: danieljgrouse on Wed, 17 June 2020, 15:37:31
Amazing board. You a fan of AMD? Naming 2 boards after their GPU architecture, is the next board going to be named Navi? Good luck. I really hope I can get in on this. It literally has every feature I am looking for.
I'm pretty sure they're named after stars (the same stars AMD named their architectures after).
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Post by: nsyinc on Wed, 17 June 2020, 19:21:01
Really like the looks of this. If you're not completely locked into the hotswap pcb being the default, I would personally prefer the soldering to be the default or better yet, just be given a choice between the two. Prefer not to pay for a hotswap pcb I don't need.
Same.
+1. Would really prefer a choice of hs package and a solder package rather than having solder as an add on. i can see myself getting both but i can also see myself saving $70-100 if given the choice.
hopefully this isn't another loooong IC like the tkl, seeing you already have a few rounds of proto.
do appreciate the consistent layout of your ICs.
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Post by: juice_pouch on Wed, 17 June 2020, 23:12:41
Really like the looks of this. If you're not completely locked into the hotswap pcb being the default, I would personally prefer the soldering to be the default or better yet, just be given a choice between the two. Prefer not to pay for a hotswap pcb I don't need.
Same.
+1. Would really prefer a choice of hs package and a solder package rather than having solder as an add on. i can see myself getting both but i can also see myself saving $70-100 if given the choice.
hopefully this isn't another loooong IC like the tkl, seeing you already have a few rounds of proto.
do appreciate the consistent layout of your ICs.
Another +1 to this, paying extra for a hotswap PCB that I won't use is a tough sell
Post by: leexy on Thu, 18 June 2020, 02:00:32
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Post by: akyp11 on Thu, 18 June 2020, 02:20:01
Though HS default only won't stop me from buying it. It just means I'll have the HS PCB as a spare.
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Post by: syberghost on Thu, 18 June 2020, 07:23:59
Apologize for harping on this but do you have an total cost estimate (including shipping?) I understand this will be more than polaris simply because more material. But an estimate would be great.
I would highly suggest not counting on shipping being included in stuff like this any time soon. The shipping situation this year is different than ever in the past for more reasons than just covid, but covid is still also a thing.
Everything's going to cost more to ship everywhere until covid is gone, and after it's gone, a lot of things are still going to cost a lot more to ship a lot of places for the foreseeable future due to the new postal agreements, and the inevitable cost increases from the logistics companies since their cheapest competition is charging more.
Some merchants / group buys will continue the practice, but don't count on it being as prevalent.
Post by: Blehhh on Thu, 18 June 2020, 07:41:32
will really love to know if this is limited amount or unlimited amount.
Thanks in advance stay safe :)
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Post by: juice_pouch on Thu, 18 June 2020, 13:01:29
lol no this board is hardly a tough sell
In a vacuum, no, but from the POV of a poor grad student, the extra $70-100 could be a difference-maker!
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Post by: TemporaryFix101 on Fri, 19 June 2020, 09:08:53
I am totally in on this, any chance that we will see different colours? I would really like some kind of burgundy.
Probably not, they're trying to make this GB as streamlined as possible to avoid a repeat of the QC issues with Polaris.
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Post by: syberghost on Mon, 22 June 2020, 11:13:57
Still wondering which blue is it gonna be like..can we have more info regarding this blue?
Until ai03 gets a blue proto in hand, even he can't know for sure what blue it'll be. Factory will have to attempt to match the render.
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Post by: SpringWind on Wed, 24 June 2020, 04:00:09
The only concern is I maybe have to take long time to choose one color from these options!
I hope additional renders or photos will available in future updates. I'm looking forward the GB will open!
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Post by: ai03 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 18:48:56
I think the specifications of this keyboard are impeccable.
The only concern is I maybe have to take long time to choose one color from these options!
I hope additional renders or photos will available in future updates. I'm looking forward the GB will open!
Further renders and photos should be available in the future once everything is set and finalized.
Does anyone know if this is Unlimited Group buy or FCFS? Very interested in this and Andromeda.
Sale format TBA
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Post by: OsoKekkou on Fri, 26 June 2020, 11:49:29
Yeah... I fell for e-yellow once.
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You make it sound like E-Yellow broke your heart and took the kids :D
I'm just on the hunt for a Yellow 65% and this perfect board looks to be my ticket out of the hobby (maybe)
Post by: santela on Sat, 27 June 2020, 14:07:57
I think the specifications of this keyboard are impeccable.
The only concern is I maybe have to take long time to choose one color from these options!
I hope additional renders or photos will available in future updates. I'm looking forward the GB will open!
Further renders and photos should be available in the future once everything is set and finalized.Does anyone know if this is Unlimited Group buy or FCFS? Very interested in this and Andromeda.
Sale format TBA
God you are leaving us hanging!
I really hope I don't have to fight for this, this is perfect for me, gonna be my endgame keyboard!
Post by: kaworu on Sun, 28 June 2020, 07:22:42
Really like the looks of this. If you're not completely locked into the hotswap pcb being the default, I would personally prefer the soldering to be the default or better yet, just be given a choice between the two. Prefer not to pay for a hotswap pcb I don't need.
Same.
+1. Would really prefer a choice of hs package and a solder package rather than having solder as an add on. i can see myself getting both but i can also see myself saving $70-100 if given the choice.
hopefully this isn't another loooong IC like the tkl, seeing you already have a few rounds of proto.
do appreciate the consistent layout of your ICs.
Same here, would love to have the choice to get only the solder package.
Post by: bt2108 on Sun, 28 June 2020, 08:57:59
Post by: jubei on Sun, 28 June 2020, 14:30:11
Either way, can't wait.
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Post by: syberghost on Tue, 30 June 2020, 07:17:06
Any possibility of a polycarb case?
None without a redesign; the part the screws attach to is small and poly would rip.
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Post by: swirle13 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 19:51:30
Any possibility of a polycarb case?
None without a redesign; the part the screws attach to is small and poly would rip.
Damn, the PC Polaris got me feeling a certain way and I'm still chasing a nice compact PC board. I don't own a 65%, so I'm still definitely getting this. Would be an insta-buy if there was a PC version, but I understand the design and material limitations.
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Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sat, 04 July 2020, 03:43:14
Sorry if you answered this already, if so, please point me at your answer.
Will Vega also have the same behaviour with the USB port flexing against the case, as here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/
Admittedly, in normal use that won’t be a problem.
And further, just for my own education, I’ve been told the USB daughterboard is more to assist layout of the PCB than to safeguard against flex of the PCB / movement of the USB port.
What is your motivation? I guess you’d be the authority on this, since most other designers use your daughterboard!
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Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sat, 04 July 2020, 11:46:40
ai03 (avoiding the ping for now), the Vega PCB is again flexy, as Polaris, right? And I don’t see a USB daughterboard.
Sorry if you answered this already, if so, please point me at your answer.
Will Vega also have the same behaviour with the USB port flexing against the case, as here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/
Admittedly, in normal use that won’t be a problem.
And further, just for my own education, I’ve been told the USB daughterboard is more to assist layout of the PCB than to safeguard against flex of the PCB / movement of the USB port.
What is your motivation? I guess you’d be the authority on this, since most other designers use your daughterboard!
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It's to keep the cost as low as possible. He had mentioned it in his discord.
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sat, 04 July 2020, 13:02:58
It's to keep the cost as low as possible. He had mentioned it in his discord.
Great, thanks. So will the Vega have similar movement of the USB port?
<EDIT:> Ah, I see Polaris has USB on one side, Vega has it in the middle. And maybe the USB port is then closer to gasket support than on Polaris as well.
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Post by: konstantin on Mon, 06 July 2020, 07:02:48
Have you considered reversing the split spacebar to 2.75u on the left? I don't understand why so many recent boards woth splits leave that out.
It's a matter of preference. I would also prefer 2.75u on the left.
Post by: syberghost on Mon, 06 July 2020, 11:16:34
How does hot-swap work with a gasket mount system??
Standoffs connecting the PCB to the plate.
Post by: Caspid on Mon, 06 July 2020, 16:15:03
Post by: etong415 on Mon, 06 July 2020, 16:18:13
Interested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.Lol
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Post by: elmo on Mon, 06 July 2020, 16:48:12
Interested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the DZ65 or TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.
no thanks.
yikes...
Post by: NathanCVII on Mon, 06 July 2020, 17:04:45
Interested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the DZ65 or TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.
no thanks.
yikes...
I wouldn't be opposed to 2 1.5u keys, but the blocker looks nice on this board.
Post by: leexy on Mon, 06 July 2020, 21:03:02
Interested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the DZ65 or TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.
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Post by: vocal118 on Mon, 06 July 2020, 21:06:51
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:22:24
Interested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the DZ65 or TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.NOOOO XD 7u on 65% is literally one of the best layouts
Post by: Caspid on Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:41:48
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:51:36
Would you guys mind sharing why this layout is preferable? I'm new to keyboards, but coming from a laptop keyboard, it's nice to be able to use Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn for scrolling through tabs, and a menu key saves moving your hand to the mouse to right-click. Open to discussing it; there aren't many curated layout comparisons with pros/cons that I could find.
Ultimately it's all preference, which is why other layouts exist. I myself like the blocker because it makes it easier to track where your fingers are landing for the arrow keys.
Post by: Sabin on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:40:58
Would you guys mind sharing why this layout is preferable? I'm new to keyboards, but coming from a laptop keyboard, it's nice to be able to use Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn for scrolling through tabs, and a menu key saves moving your hand to the mouse to right-click. Open to discussing it; there aren't many curated layout comparisons with pros/cons that I could find.
Its preference, people get smaller layouts because they don't use the key or they are happy to use layers. You can get a TKL or 75% instead of 65%, its up to you, there is no 'best'
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:51:19
Would you guys mind sharing why this layout is preferable? I'm new to keyboards, but coming from a laptop keyboard, it's nice to be able to use Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn for scrolling through tabs, and a menu key saves moving your hand to the mouse to right-click. Open to discussing it; there aren't many curated layout comparisons with pros/cons that I could find.
You can always map Fn+PgUp/PgDn to work as Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn. And Menu can be Fn+M or whatever. The blocker is nice because it looks cleaner (it's less cramped than having three keys there), and it gives you tactile feedback as to where the arrow cluster is.
Post by: juice_pouch on Tue, 07 July 2020, 13:24:22
Would you guys mind sharing why this layout is preferable? I'm new to keyboards, but coming from a laptop keyboard, it's nice to be able to use Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn for scrolling through tabs, and a menu key saves moving your hand to the mouse to right-click. Open to discussing it; there aren't many curated layout comparisons with pros/cons that I could find.
It's just preference - I've never used RCtrl or the Menu key in my life, so I don't need them. However, you can remap anything to just about anything else (including modifiers such as Ctrl), so it's not like you're only restricted to the physically present keys.
Post by: Caspid on Tue, 07 July 2020, 14:57:57
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 07 July 2020, 15:10:41
An extra keystroke is less desirable though; does the software/firmware allow you to map keypresses vs holds differently (i.e. press for menu, hold for Ctrl modifier)?
Yes, of course, any good firmware will allow you to do that (QMK firmware is what's mostly used).
Post by: pelunayrb on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:51:12
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:23:15
when gb?No
Interested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the DZ65 or TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.Absolutely no
On a more serious note, I chose the 1.5/7U-based layout for four reasons:
- Historical significance of the WKL-based layouts
- Ability to support 3/1/3U split space and 7U on a single hotswap PCB once 3U becomes more common
- Noticeably better reach on the left ctrl position
- A survey taken before IC revealed roughly equal demand for 1.5 and 1.25 based 65% layouts, and plenty of 1.25 based 65% boards already exist
Post by: Caspid on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:32:26
The improved comfort on L Ctrl sounds great.
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:43:01
Post by: santela on Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:50:56
when gb?NoInterested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the DZ65 or TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.Absolutely no
On a more serious note, I chose the 1.5/7U-based layout for four reasons:
- Historical significance of the WKL-based layouts
- Ability to support 3/1/3U split space and 7U on a single hotswap PCB once 3U becomes more common
- Noticeably better reach on the left ctrl position
- A survey taken before IC revealed roughly equal demand for 1.5 and 1.25 based 65% layouts, and plenty of 1.25 based 65% boards already exist
Wait, are you saying this hotswap pcb will support 3/1/3u spacebar? Or are you saying this could be a future possibility?
Post by: kaworu on Wed, 08 July 2020, 14:00:53
The downside of 7u space is that RAlt/AltGr becomes noticeably more difficult to reach. This is an issue primarily for non-US users that rely heavily on AltGr to input special characters.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the hotswap layout with the 7u spacebar has no RAlt/AltGr (only RControl which of course could be re-mapped but you get my point). We ISO users will have to rely on the soldering kit, which allow a 6.25u spacebar along with AltGr.
That's why it would be great if we could get to choose between the hotswap and soldering kits instead of hotswap being the default and having to purchase the soldering kit additionally.
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 08 July 2020, 15:55:15
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the hotswap layout with the 7u spacebar has no RAlt/AltGr (only RControl which of course could be re-mapped but you get my point). We ISO users will have to rely on the soldering kit, which allow a 6.25u spacebar along with AltGr.
That's why it would be great if we could get to choose between the hotswap and soldering kits instead of hotswap being the default and having to purchase the soldering kit additionally.
The key to the right of 7u space would be AltGr. Yes, it would be better to not be forced to purchase the hotswap PCB.
Post by: MNML. on Thu, 09 July 2020, 01:34:34
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 09 July 2020, 05:29:09
Wait, are you saying this hotswap pcb will support 3/1/3u spacebar? Or are you saying this could be a future possibility?Very likely in the future.
Looks really clean. I would like to see non-hotswap standard for flexibility on layouts.Roughly half of the PCB issues I had to deal with on Polaris were related to soldering errors, and the other half firmware flashing. Vega attempts to resolve these issues for the sake of my sanity when I get flooded by DMs and pings and emails.
The downside of 7u space is that RAlt/AltGr becomes noticeably more difficult to reach. This is an issue primarily for non-US users that rely heavily on AltGr to input special characters.
The key to the right of 7u space would be AltGr. Yes, it would be better to not be forced to purchase the hotswap PCB.
Maybe in the future, but definitely not now.
I just spent months optimizing Vega for the least logistics headache and best labor conditions for everyone involved in making the board whether factory worker or vendor, so I will not undo such efforts until I or the vendor is financially stable enough to hire more workers and offload sorting work to be less burden on each person.
Post by: adamjohari on Thu, 09 July 2020, 06:12:14
Post by: acaban on Thu, 09 July 2020, 07:20:32
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best labor conditions
this is really cool to hear.
Post by: Git2Gether on Thu, 09 July 2020, 11:38:46
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 09 July 2020, 13:57:03
really excited to see what else is coming down the road
Post by: NathanCVII on Thu, 09 July 2020, 14:38:53
Post by: rewke on Thu, 09 July 2020, 14:43:54
Just hoping it's an unlimited group buy limited by time only so I can have a decent chance to get one.
SAME. Praying that it's an unlimited GB.
Post by: kaworu on Thu, 09 July 2020, 16:03:26
The key to the right of 7u space would be AltGr. Yes, it would be better to not be forced to purchase the hotswap PCB.
Maybe in the future, but definitely not now.
I just spent months optimizing Vega for the least logistics headache and best labor conditions for everyone involved in making the board whether factory worker or vendor, so I will not undo such efforts until I or the vendor is financially stable enough to hire more workers and offload sorting work to be less burden on each person.
Fair point, thank you for your honesty.
Post by: LouisD on Thu, 09 July 2020, 18:01:42
Roughly half of the PCB issues I had to deal with on Polaris were related to soldering errors, and the other half firmware flashing. Vega attempts to resolve these issues for the sake of my sanity when I get flooded by DMs and pings and emails.
That makes sense, especially considering how popular this board is going to be with 2020 demand and the approachability of 65%. Honestly I'm stoked for the hotswap pcb as I don't have any HS boards for testing/breaking in switches. If I'm able to order a Vega I'll be picking up a second solderable pcb+plate as well.
Post by: FellTattooArtist on Thu, 09 July 2020, 18:08:57
Wait, are you saying this hotswap pcb will support 3/1/3u spacebar? Or are you saying this could be a future possibility?
God, please make it happen! this board looks quite gorgeous.. now with 3u hotswap spacebar and how easy it is to reach that ctrl key, you have just sold it for both me and my son!
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Thu, 09 July 2020, 18:44:28
Just hoping it's an unlimited group buy limited by time only so I can have a decent chance to get one.
SAME. Praying that it's an unlimited GB.
Well, yeah. At the very bottom of the initial post there's the supported layout for the default hotswap and then the supported layouts for the solder pcb/plate.
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Post by: Arithmetics on Sun, 12 July 2020, 13:29:11
Wait, are you saying this hotswap pcb will support 3/1/3u spacebar? Or are you saying this could be a future possibility?
God, please make it happen! this board looks quite gorgeous.. now with 3u hotswap spacebar and how easy it is to reach that ctrl key, you have just sold it for both me and my son!
i believe its 2.75 spacebar and that will only be avail for solder pcb. sorry
Post by: Domantas on Sun, 12 July 2020, 16:23:30
when gb?NoInterested regardless, but I'd prefer something closer to the DZ65 or TADA68 layout, with 2-3 keys next to the arrows; the blocker seems like wasted space.Absolutely no
On a more serious note, I chose the 1.5/7U-based layout for four reasons:
- Historical significance of the WKL-based layouts
- Ability to support 3/1/3U split space and 7U on a single hotswap PCB once 3U becomes more common
- Noticeably better reach on the left ctrl position
- A survey taken before IC revealed roughly equal demand for 1.5 and 1.25 based 65% layouts, and plenty of 1.25 based 65% boards already exist
Yup being honest it is one of the main reasons that I like this board - hotswap 7u. Nice job AIO3
Post by: Domantas on Sun, 12 July 2020, 16:24:34
The downside of 7u space is that RAlt/AltGr becomes noticeably more difficult to reach. This is an issue primarily for non-US users that rely heavily on AltGr to input special characters.
Yeah I use alt gr, but that is whatever since I use it mostly with right hand. Also will there be burgundy color? It is still ic right?
Post by: NathanCVII on Mon, 13 July 2020, 00:57:52
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Post by: ai03 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 01:40:50
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Post by: santela on Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:15:24
Very nice finishing :) Although its boring, I do like that grey!
Grey is the most versatile! For someone who doesn't plan on owning a dozen keyboards it is perfect.
Post by: davisthegreat on Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:28:15
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:34:58
Haha isnt that what we all say. Dont worry, gray/black is what most people start with.Very nice finishing :) Although its boring, I do like that grey!
Grey is the most versatile! For someone who doesn't plan on owning a dozen keyboards it is perfect.
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Post by: ai03 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:21:09
Looks great, wish their were some unique colors, seems to always be the same 3-5 anodized colors.These same 3-5 colors sell amazingly well whereas rare colors just end up dead stock and burn rent
Proof: Previous boards
Most likely will be buying this because of the butchered Think v2.0 attempt. Would be nice if we could have some cool looking badge option on this. Is that even a possibility at this point?If I liked badges on 65, this would have had one
Im all in for soldering kit! It does feel kinda bad that i need to get 2 PCBs since the hotswap one will be kinda useless for me sicne im an ISO user. Anyway looks cool. Really wish it was soldering default thoAlready explained my reasoning on previous page
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Post by: Arcen on Mon, 13 July 2020, 14:04:59
Most likely will be buying this because of the butchered Think v2.0 attempt. Would be nice if we could have some cool looking badge option on this. Is that even a possibility at this point?
What was butchered in the Think V2.0 attempt? I am out of the loop.
Post by: delrn on Mon, 13 July 2020, 14:51:13
He’s salty about the design of the board.Most likely will be buying this because of the butchered Think v2.0 attempt. Would be nice if we could have some cool looking badge option on this. Is that even a possibility at this point?
What was butchered in the Think V2.0 attempt? I am out of the loop.
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Post by: tluer on Mon, 13 July 2020, 14:59:23
He’s salty about the design of the board.Most likely will be buying this because of the butchered Think v2.0 attempt. Would be nice if we could have some cool looking badge option on this. Is that even a possibility at this point?
What was butchered in the Think V2.0 attempt? I am out of the loop.
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I mean to be fair....I'm not exactly a big fan of the think 2.0 design either. I think the new badge designs stand out a little too much and distract from the rest of the board. That's just my personal opinion though. Clearly plenty of ppl either love it or are into the hype.
Post by: Kharann on Mon, 13 July 2020, 15:54:19
Looks great, wish their were some unique colors, seems to always be the same 3-5 anodized colors.These same 3-5 colors sell amazingly well whereas rare colors just end up dead stock and burn rent
Proof: Previous boardsMost likely will be buying this because of the butchered Think v2.0 attempt. Would be nice if we could have some cool looking badge option on this. Is that even a possibility at this point?If I liked badges on 65, this would have had oneIm all in for soldering kit! It does feel kinda bad that i need to get 2 PCBs since the hotswap one will be kinda useless for me sicne im an ISO user. Anyway looks cool. Really wish it was soldering default thoAlready explained my reasoning on previous page
Yeah I'm sorry if I sounded mean there! I really appreciate what you're doing and I'm looking forward to this. Hopefully I'm lucky if it is a raffle or I'm fast enough to snatch one
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 17:18:26
for the soldered version, does the plate supports all layouts?The soldering kit will include a plate with universal layout.
Will there be half-plate options available?No, at least for this round. Possibly in the future, but probably faster to just modify the plate files once released and order one from a factory of choice.
Post by: prangano on Mon, 13 July 2020, 17:21:39
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 17:25:15
Is the hotswap PCB attached to the plate by mounting hardware like in the kbd67mkII? Or it just held by the sockets?
Standoffs will be included for those who plan on swapping switches without board disassembly, but can be built without for those wanting very slightly improved keyfeel.
It is recommended to install at least one of the standoffs for EMI shielding/ESD protection resasons; this will be explained in the build guide.
Post by: nsyinc on Mon, 13 July 2020, 18:48:11
Most likely will be buying this because of the butchered Think v2.0 attempt. Would be nice if we could have some cool looking badge option on this. Is that even a possibility at this point?If I liked badges on 65, this would have had one
so another 10 pages can be devoted to pitchforking ai03 on why that some cool looking badge doesnt match the name vega. nah just keep it simple and classic.
designer designs. consumer consumes.
one person not buying 1 board in a gb isnt going to kill a gb.
Post by: NathanCVII on Mon, 13 July 2020, 18:56:07
Most likely will be buying this because of the butchered Think v2.0 attempt. Would be nice if we could have some cool looking badge option on this. Is that even a possibility at this point?If I liked badges on 65, this would have had one
so another 10 pages can be devoted to pitchforking ai03 on why that some cool looking badge doesnt match the name vega. nah just keep it simple and classic.
designer designs. consumer consumes.
one person not buying 1 board in a gb isnt going to kill a gb.
I hope he doesn't buy so I have a better chance if it's not unlimited ;D
Post by: cadrev on Mon, 13 July 2020, 19:09:18
for the soldered version, does the plate supports all layouts?The soldering kit will include a plate with universal layout.Will there be half-plate options available?No, at least for this round. Possibly in the future, but probably faster to just modify the plate files once released and order one from a factory of choice.
Oh alright! But the PCB has flex cuts right? In that case we can have our own plates printed say on Ponoko and custom cut them to be half plates.
Post by: username-thingy on Mon, 13 July 2020, 19:26:41
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 19:39:19
so another 10 pages can be devoted to pitchforking ai03 on why that some cool looking badge doesnt match the name vega. nah just keep it simple and classic.
designer designs. consumer consumes.
one person not buying 1 board in a gb isnt going to kill a gb.
wat
Stop trying to start some random flame war in this thread over an already responded inquiry
Oh alright! But the PCB has flex cuts right?
Yes
Post by: cadrev on Mon, 13 July 2020, 19:48:05
Post by: kriscard on Mon, 13 July 2020, 21:58:01
When we will be able to buy the Vega? Do the GB is already completed?
Thanks in advance
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 22:19:01
Hi,
When we will be able to buy the Vega? Do the GB is already completed?
Thanks in advance
Hi,
Read the first post
Post by: Kalabalik on Mon, 13 July 2020, 22:48:11
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Post by: gunth on Tue, 14 July 2020, 03:16:05
Hope for unlimited gb and euro proxy
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Tue, 14 July 2020, 03:16:17
Post by: i luv chuletas on Tue, 14 July 2020, 08:10:34
Are there any estimations on whether this will be an open gb, or limited?
I'm aware that the details are still being ironned out, just want to know the original intent for this.
Post by: Caspid on Tue, 14 July 2020, 15:12:00
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Post by: Clay333 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 19:01:03
This board looks incredible. Hits all of the points I am looking for. Hopefully I will have one sitting on my desk one day.
Post by: prizeS on Wed, 15 July 2020, 19:06:46
Can you please let us know if this is intended to be unlimited, FCFS, or a raffle before the Think 6.5v2 goes live? I imagine there are a lot of us that are looking at both boards but would prefer the Vega. But without knowing if it's obtainable will push us towards the Think instead. I understand this isn't your problem. You will have no problem selling these boards whether the Think or any or board exist. Just let us know your intentions even if you can't guarantee it so that we can feel better about our purchase.
This board looks incredible. Hits all of the points I am looking for. Hopefully I will have one sitting on my desk one day.
buy both! hehe they're both nice boards
Post by: Minam on Wed, 15 July 2020, 19:42:32
I am just wondering if this will be a raffle or unlimited because if it's a raffle, I am just going to buy the Think 6.5 but I think it goes without saying people would rather buy this board than think 6.5.
Someone gave a joke answer but this is a serious consideration for many people.
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Wed, 15 July 2020, 19:52:58
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Post by: menuhin on Thu, 16 July 2020, 01:11:58
A request of the bottom row split-spacebar for the solderable PCB:
Please make 2.75u + 1.25u + 2.25u also possible for left thumb spacebar pressers (currently only 2.25u + 1.25u + 2.75u)
Post by: Domantas on Thu, 16 July 2020, 05:05:23
Post by: Domantas on Thu, 16 July 2020, 05:08:13
Can you please let us know if this is intended to be unlimited, FCFS, or a raffle before the Think 6.5v2 goes live? I imagine there are a lot of us that are looking at both boards but would prefer the Vega. But without knowing if it's obtainable will push us towards the Think instead. I understand this isn't your problem. You will have no problem selling these boards whether the Think or any or board exist. Just let us know your intentions even if you can't guarantee it so that we can feel better about our purchase.
This board looks incredible. Hits all of the points I am looking for. Hopefully I will have one sitting on my desk one day.
I always really don't care if the board is fcfs/raffle OR unlimited. I just choose the board I like more. For example I hate that weight of think 6.5 so I will probably skip it. Vega for me looks much better and I would like it to be unlimited or at least 800 units fcfs or smth (but raffle is a bit more chill though, still it should be very legitimate with vendors showing how they raffle (we should get number ticket or smth))
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 16 July 2020, 05:32:22
Mr. Aio3 Would you consider fr4 since it is hotswap?There is no correlation between fr4 and hotswap; also my name is not aio3
A request of the bottom row split-spacebar for the solderable PCB:I only added the single 225/275 split option as a temporary split measure; future round PCBs will likely drop 6.25U-based layouts entirely in favor of 3/1/3 split for a fully 7U-based board once 3U bars become further common.
Please make 2.75u + 1.25u + 2.25u also possible for left thumb spacebar pressers (currently only 2.25u + 1.25u + 2.75u)
Can you please let us know if this is intended to be unlimited, FCFS, or a raffle before the Think 6.5v2 goes live?I am not involved in the development, production, or sales of the Think6.5, nor do I have the intent to compete against it.
I am simply moving this project exactly as I intend as many factors surrounding its development and production see fit; if this causes inconvenience to you, please buy a later round of this, or not buy this at all.
Post by: TofuOrganic on Thu, 16 July 2020, 06:21:08
Post by: cadrev on Thu, 16 July 2020, 06:36:23
Clay333 literally said what I was about to say.
I am just wondering if this will be a raffle or unlimited because if it's a raffle, I am just going to buy the Think 6.5 but I think it goes without saying people would rather buy this board than think 6.5.
Someone gave a joke answer but this is a serious consideration for many people.
I took the dangerous path and will just focus on this board. Too clean and classy. Might as well go all out on it. If I fail to buy then for sure there will be upcoming GB's in the future. If you don't have a current custom keyboard, then go for the Think for the safer route.
Post by: syberghost on Thu, 16 July 2020, 07:53:46
Sorry if it’s been asked already but is a polycarb unit likely for future rounds? Regardless, I’ll be jumping on this haha
It would require a redesign of the board; the existing design wouldn't be structurally sound in PC.
Post by: TofuOrganic on Thu, 16 July 2020, 15:59:42
Oof, good to know!Sorry if it’s been asked already but is a polycarb unit likely for future rounds? Regardless, I’ll be jumping on this haha
It would require a redesign of the board; the existing design wouldn't be structurally sound in PC.
From a learning standpoint, what would likely cause the issues for pc?
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 16 July 2020, 19:53:06
A request of the bottom row split-spacebar for the solderable PCB:I only added the single 225/275 split option as a temporary split measure; future round PCBs will likely drop 6.25U-based layouts entirely in favor of 3/1/3 split for a fully 7U-based board once 3U bars become further common.
Please make 2.75u + 1.25u + 2.25u also possible for left thumb spacebar pressers (currently only 2.25u + 1.25u + 2.75u)
Since future rounds are, well, in the future, it would be nice to have a 2.75–1.25–2.25 option for this round, if circumstances allow.
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 16 July 2020, 20:54:53
From a learning standpoint, what would likely cause the issues for pc?Internal screw points too thin to withstand gasket compression force if done in poly
Since future rounds are, well, in the future, it would be nice to have a 2.75–1.25–2.25 option for this round, if circumstances allow.No
You are free to make your own PCB to handle further compat once the outer dimensions are open sourced
Post by: TofuOrganic on Thu, 16 July 2020, 20:57:28
Internal screw points too thin to withstand gasket compression force if done in polyAh, I see! Thanks :)
Post by: ryebreaded on Fri, 17 July 2020, 00:01:50
Post by: Domantas on Sat, 18 July 2020, 10:52:15
Mr. Aio3 Would you consider fr4 since it is hotswap?There is no correlation between fr4 and hotswap; also my name is not aio3
But there are some hotswap keyboards using fr4 plate as far as I know so it should be usable with hotswap. Or you think it won't work well with gasket system?
You are AI03 indeed, sorry, I though its O, not 0.
Post by: dpauly on Sat, 18 July 2020, 16:57:09
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Post by: Vox_PT on Sat, 18 July 2020, 18:13:39
I might try my luck on one of these.
Post by: ImIrish on Sun, 19 July 2020, 02:18:06
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Post by: Caspid on Sun, 19 July 2020, 12:16:24
please stop answering "I'm interested, where I send my money", my inbox is spammed with those sort of notification and every time I think there is valuable updates :)) :pI mean, it's an interest check. For faster and more valuable updates, it'd probably be more worthwhile to subscribe to the Discord.
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 22:20:48
Will it be possible to add aftermarket alps support to this via plate files? Anything in the design preclude this due to placement of screws, etc? If not, anything planned up your sleeve in the future alps related? Thanks
Since I've designed it very specific to MX, I cannot guarantee that Alps will work due to internals conflicts.
I do have a second generation version of Lunar in the works for an Alps-specific design.
Post by: kmba on Tue, 21 July 2020, 20:30:51
Will it be possible to add aftermarket alps support to this via plate files? Anything in the design preclude this due to placement of screws, etc? If not, anything planned up your sleeve in the future alps related? Thanks
Since I've designed it very specific to MX, I cannot guarantee that Alps will work due to internals conflicts.
I do have a second generation version of Lunar in the works for an Alps-specific design.
Awesome thanks. Just hanging around looking for the perfect board for these brown alps. shouldn't have sold that jane me thinks.
Post by: roblon on Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:08:59
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Post by: thestateofmay on Fri, 24 July 2020, 12:52:44
Post by: ninjacore on Fri, 24 July 2020, 13:42:05
Will it come with PC case option?
Nice! Would you consider adding underglow LEDs to the PCB for the PC version?
No PC version this time around; the thin supports for the internal screws would shatter.
Post by: ManiacMarc on Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:07:03
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Post by: Vidhur100 on Fri, 24 July 2020, 18:43:58
The case is aluminum right?Yeah It is
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Post by: idolindisguise on Fri, 24 July 2020, 20:38:09
Post by: Rynxe on Sun, 26 July 2020, 07:38:15
aio3 do you consider adding purple on color option for vega?
Up for this question, interested as well for a purple vega similar to kyuu purple. :p
Post by: Twigler on Sun, 26 July 2020, 12:25:09
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Post by: Madrai on Sun, 26 July 2020, 16:17:11
Is the Blue the same Blue as the Polaris?
There is a picture of the blue prototype on the first page. You can compare it to the Polaris from that.
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Post by: Bobatype on Sat, 08 August 2020, 02:26:36
Gorgeous board. I'm going to have to get in on this. Very clean lines throughout.
I'm not normally into the back weight, because you can't see them, so I feel overly ornate back designs are a waste (although I appreciate and admire the design effort), but also feel that plain ones with just plain text are way too boring and uninspired.
Yours hits the nice middle ground for me.
Post by: SonnyTubbs on Sat, 08 August 2020, 09:00:04
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Post by: yhs on Sat, 08 August 2020, 20:53:25
Post by: JoltFX on Sun, 09 August 2020, 00:15:37
(https://i.imgur.com/m0PHzjC.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106725.0)
Post by: Nepherte on Sun, 09 August 2020, 02:19:57
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Post by: elmo on Sun, 09 August 2020, 04:09:34
Can someone explain the "foundation series" vs "reference series" vs "signature series" naming scheme to me?
just a naming scheme. nothing more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post by: VagueOrigin on Sun, 09 August 2020, 06:16:59
Hey! You join this hype train with me, right now!Can someone explain the "foundation series" vs "reference series" vs "signature series" naming scheme to me?
just a naming scheme. nothing more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by: elmo on Sun, 09 August 2020, 06:23:26
I'm already on it lolHey! You join this hype train with me, right now!Can someone explain the "foundation series" vs "reference series" vs "signature series" naming scheme to me?
just a naming scheme. nothing more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by: jas_kidd32 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 07:42:29
I like the dark blue case.
Post by: navm on Tue, 11 August 2020, 11:04:02
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 11 August 2020, 11:48:49
Post by: JoltFX on Tue, 11 August 2020, 11:52:04
(https://i.imgur.com/m0PHzjC.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106725.0)
Post by: santela on Tue, 11 August 2020, 12:24:45
It really depends what price will be. This looks quite nice. However since price is TBA I really hope this will be at the similar price as polaris, which would be really tempting, if more like a think 6.5 (which I skipped), I will better wait for keycult.
Words from the Chinese GB chat ran by Kevinplus is that it'll be between $300 - $360, and likely to be on the higher side. Still well worth it imo. Polaris was just an outrageously good deal that shouldn't be expected to be the norm.
Post by: kai0 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 14:32:39
Words from the Chinese GB chat ran by Kevinplus is that it'll be between $300 - $360, and likely to be on the higher side. Still well worth it imo. Polaris was just an outrageously good deal that shouldn't be expected to be the norm.
Still quite a nice, competitive price! Nothing outrageous even given the current conditions.
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 11 August 2020, 16:26:26
It really depends what price will be. This looks quite nice. However since price is TBA I really hope this will be at the similar price as polaris, which would be really tempting, if more like a think 6.5 (which I skipped), I will better wait for keycult.
Words from the Chinese GB chat ran by Kevinplus is that it'll be between $300 - $360, and likely to be on the higher side. Still well worth it imo. Polaris was just an outrageously good deal that shouldn't be expected to be the norm.
Nice that they almost announced the price! Though it makes me feel only like considering it, not sought after kind of feel. Cha I already ordered bear65, so I will just wait for polaris type of keyboard situation cheche or go with KEYCULT :cool: :cool: :cool: because this is like more gasket version of kbd67, which I have. The thing I don't like for such a price (300-360) a bit is rectangle board not having daugtherboard
Post by: leexy on Wed, 12 August 2020, 02:03:32
Words from the Chinese GB chat ran by Kevinplus is that it'll be between $300 - $360, and likely to be on the higher side. Still well worth it imo. Polaris was just an outrageously good deal that shouldn't be expected to be the norm.
Still quite a nice, competitive price! Nothing outrageous even given the current conditions.
hold up we haven't added shipping yet
Post by: kai0 on Wed, 12 August 2020, 07:35:53
Words from the Chinese GB chat ran by Kevinplus is that it'll be between $300 - $360, and likely to be on the higher side. Still well worth it imo. Polaris was just an outrageously good deal that shouldn't be expected to be the norm.
Still quite a nice, competitive price! Nothing outrageous even given the current conditions.
hold up we haven't added shipping yet
It's basically a given since (I believe) these will be shipped from China. :( Already have a fudge factor for shipping in mind so it's not completely devastating seeing shipping be 10-15% of the cost on top of the Vega itself.
What an expensive hobby this can be...
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Wed, 12 August 2020, 08:59:11
Post by: Taom on Wed, 12 August 2020, 12:38:53
Love the clean design!
Post by: Caspid on Wed, 12 August 2020, 17:54:30
Sorry if this has been asked before. Is the combination of colours of case and weight fixed or will we be free to mix & match as we like?It will likely be fixed to minimize ordering/boxing hassle.
Love the clean design!
Post by: johnnyhowey on Wed, 12 August 2020, 21:03:17
Post by: Taom on Thu, 13 August 2020, 09:19:40
Sorry if this has been asked before. Is the combination of colours of case and weight fixed or will we be free to mix & match as we like?It will likely be fixed to minimize ordering/boxing hassle.
Love the clean design!
Post by: syberghost on Sun, 16 August 2020, 10:33:36
hold up we haven't added shipping yet
It's basically a given since (I believe) these will be shipped from China. :( Already have a fudge factor for shipping in mind so it's not completely devastating seeing shipping be 10-15% of the cost on top of the Vega itself.
What an expensive hobby this can be...
Is this a good time to remind people that the cost of epacket shipping from China to the US went up substantially last month, and you just haven't noticed yet because covid? All those $5 shipping options we used to get are gonna be more expensive when they come back, and rise again ~16% every July through 2025.
Post by: VagueOrigin on Sun, 16 August 2020, 10:44:13
Oh I noticed alright... crazy shipping prices and even slower delivery.
hold up we haven't added shipping yet
It's basically a given since (I believe) these will be shipped from China. :( Already have a fudge factor for shipping in mind so it's not completely devastating seeing shipping be 10-15% of the cost on top of the Vega itself.
What an expensive hobby this can be...
Is this a good time to remind people that the cost of epacket shipping from China to the US went up substantially last month, and you just haven't noticed yet because covid? All those $5 shipping options we used to get are gonna be more expensive when they come back, and rise again ~16% every July through 2025.
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Post by: peachie on Sun, 16 August 2020, 20:25:34
hoooly ****, this is so... whoa.
I've never had the patience or money to join in on a GB for a keyboard that was still in interest check level, but I am 1000% in for this one.
Post by: Araset on Mon, 17 August 2020, 03:28:39
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Post by: Hdjekso on Wed, 19 August 2020, 08:53:53
i would love to get into this group buy :) how do i sign up?
you be patient and wait for further updates
Post by: zlalaman2 on Wed, 19 August 2020, 15:36:19
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Post by: peaceperfection on Thu, 20 August 2020, 12:47:55
Post by: kai0 on Thu, 20 August 2020, 13:30:58
This is pretty accurate: https://ai03.com/Status =>"PCBs undergoing preparation" on 2020-08-09.
Just bumping this back up - bookmark it and keep tabs there for updates on Vega (as well as other projects). :)
Post by: worldtour on Fri, 21 August 2020, 02:09:45
Post by: Space_Case88 on Fri, 21 August 2020, 06:15:47
Post by: prizeS on Fri, 21 August 2020, 09:21:48
I definitely want this board..... Anyone need a kidney? I'm selling at least one.
I'm looking to buy but only in pairs. You think you're game? :))
Post by: Convergence on Sat, 22 August 2020, 20:52:54
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 23 August 2020, 06:31:23
Very excited for this. The purple Polaris is so stunning, I'm hoping this colour is an option for Vega.
The color options are listed...
Post by: Convergence on Sun, 23 August 2020, 12:24:57
Very excited for this. The purple Polaris is so stunning, I'm hoping this colour is an option for Vega.
The color options are listed...
Vega will go through multiple rounds and different colour options will be swapped in.
Post by: dstaar on Mon, 24 August 2020, 02:24:06
update: just saw there is a discord way to get updated, got it.
Post by: CookieFlow on Mon, 24 August 2020, 06:04:44
Hopefully this will be my first high-end keyboard
Post by: Yoshi on Tue, 25 August 2020, 06:32:01
Post by: Fearian on Tue, 25 August 2020, 08:15:51
IMO YMMV
Post by: TSUT0 on Tue, 25 August 2020, 08:42:43
I don't understand why every keyboard needs to have some type of logo jammed into the design. Half of them look terrible because Product Design skills != Graphic Design skills. Why run the risk of destroying a design that is praised for being clean and minimalistic?
IMO YMMV
Agreed - Vega is perfect as is. Personally, a large part of my interest in Vega stems from how clean it is; any visible badge or logo on the top would really dampen that.
Post by: Caspid on Tue, 25 August 2020, 09:42:38
I really like how this board refines features from the polaris. The seamless design is beautiful but i find that the board may look a bit bland, especially from the top down view (since it just looks like a typical 67 key 65% keyboard, like a kbd67mkii). Personally i really like the ai03 logo, maybe adding it into the top right might add some characterNo thanks. It's the opposite: instead of making them more "premium", logos cheapen products. Minimalism is what makes this board attractive. I absolutely refuse to buy a keyboard with a logo. Quality design should speak and advertise for itself.
Post by: elmo on Tue, 25 August 2020, 11:05:33
I really like how this board refines features from the polaris. The seamless design is beautiful but i find that the board may look a bit bland, especially from the top down view (since it just looks like a typical 67 key 65% keyboard, like a kbd67mkii). Personally i really like the ai03 logo, maybe adding it into the top right might add some characterNo thanks. It's the opposite: instead of making them more "premium", logos cheapen products. Minimalism is what makes this board attractive. I absolutely refuse to buy a keyboard with a logo. Quality design should speak and advertise for itself.
absolutely 100% this.
blocker logos are ugly af and I still don't understand how people could possible like a dumb logo more than an additional key on the top right corner.
Post by: mickeyho92 on Thu, 27 August 2020, 21:02:59
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Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Fri, 28 August 2020, 19:27:34
I really like how this board refines features from the polaris. The seamless design is beautiful but i find that the board may look a bit bland, especially from the top down view (since it just looks like a typical 67 key 65% keyboard, like a kbd67mkii). Personally i really like the ai03 logo, maybe adding it into the top right might add some characterNo thanks. It's the opposite: instead of making them more "premium", logos cheapen products. Minimalism is what makes this board attractive. I absolutely refuse to buy a keyboard with a logo. Quality design should speak and advertise for itself.
absolutely 100% this.
blocker logos are ugly af and I still don't understand how people could possible like a dumb logo more than an additional key on the top right corner.
...seconded and thirdeded. The motion passes! Please stop with the logo on boards / deskmats.
Post by: chaoticgood on Fri, 28 August 2020, 19:42:59
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Post by: jediknight on Sat, 29 August 2020, 12:04:48
Post by: Alkrite on Sat, 29 August 2020, 12:25:01
Post by: elmo on Sat, 29 August 2020, 12:38:57
Is the hotswap spacebar 7u?yes
Post by: Fjällräv on Sat, 29 August 2020, 14:45:15
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:27:58
Things are moving along, albeit slowly.
Post by: elmo on Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:32:29
As you may have seen on social media, PCB production samples have arrived and are undergoing testing.better take your time and make something nice instead of rushing it :)
Things are moving along, albeit slowly.
and I don't have a problem with waiting a bit longer anyways. bought too much keyboard stuff for this month already :'D
Post by: Leon_TheKing on Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:52:58
Post by: haystack on Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:56:48
Which blue is made to the final color option i.e., Blue? The rendering have two blues.
An image of the actual color samples can be found on page 7 of this very thread.
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Post by: elmo on Wed, 02 September 2020, 13:17:14
Will this be an unlimited group buy??
it's not yet made public what the availability type is going to be but it's most likely not unlimited given the problems that this created for the polaris groupbuy.
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Post by: defmoves on Sun, 06 September 2020, 13:28:16
I'm a Mech noob, been rocking a Corsair K70 (pre-rgb, Cherry Brown) for years now, which I fully understand doesn't count. About 3 weeks ago I thought I'd see what all the fuss was all about :eek:, down the rabbit hole I fell.
Lost track of the Rabbit a while back, but damn these biscuits are great and do like to the look of Vega. Personally I love the minimalism and agree with the above that it benefits from being brandless, a rare treat in 2020. So I guess I've made my choice, I'm in.
Likely start with Glorious Pandas as I'm team tactile for now. Not sure about caps yet, more digging is required. Suggestions as ever, are welcome...
Post by: elmo on Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:51:02
I'm a Mech noob, been rocking a Corsair K70 (pre-rgb, Cherry Brown) for years now, which I fully understand doesn't count. About 3 weeks ago I thought I'd see what all the fuss was all about :eek:, down the rabbit hole I fell.
Lost track of the Rabbit a while back, but damn these biscuits are great and do like to the look of Vega. Personally I love the minimalism and agree with the above that it benefits from being brandless, a rare treat in 2020. So I guess I've made my choice, I'm in.
Likely start with Glorious Pandas as I'm team tactile for now. Not sure about caps yet, more digging is required. Suggestions as ever, are welcome...
be fast if you want to get one of these boards. very fast. :D
it's extremely hyped now and it will most likely be limited in units available.
and it's also not going to be a crazy deal like the Polaris.
Expect something in the range of $300-400.
Post by: defmoves on Sun, 06 September 2020, 16:29:25
Working on some fallbacks none the less. Say something a little less bespoke, such as an NK65 (when in stock), or the Drop Alt. Which are certainly kinder to the wallet, yet seem to lack a certain elegance, not to mention consideration in comparison.
Post by: thestateofmay on Sun, 06 September 2020, 16:46:08
Post by: elmo on Mon, 07 September 2020, 03:24:20
Is it just me or has a polycarb plate option been added? I thought there was something about polycarb plates not holding out.
I'm not too sure but I think PC plate was always a planned option.
Post by: gavingoh on Mon, 07 September 2020, 04:08:52
Post by: leexy on Mon, 07 September 2020, 09:28:48
noobs who don't read the first post should be banned from this sale
Post by: thestateofmay on Mon, 07 September 2020, 12:26:14
noobs who don't read the first post should be banned from this sale
You should be banned for quoting yourself
Post by: derekjayyy on Mon, 07 September 2020, 18:19:10
Post by: leexy on Mon, 07 September 2020, 22:46:58
noobs who don't read the first post should be banned from this sale
You should be banned for quoting yourself
Cool story sis. I'll be in for at least 2-3 units, would be more than happy to take your spot.
Post by: thestateofmay on Mon, 07 September 2020, 23:01:16
noobs who don't read the first post should be banned from this sale
You should be banned for quoting yourself
Cool story sis. I'll be in for at least 2-3 units, would be more than happy to take your spot.
Whoa watch out we got a bro here with 2-3 units he's gonna take my spot!
Post by: kevle123 on Wed, 09 September 2020, 06:17:47
Post by: yintoza on Mon, 14 September 2020, 06:08:51
Post by: Hdjekso on Mon, 14 September 2020, 07:21:00
Could the hotswap version have an option for standard ansi layout? 'm new to keyboards so the hotswap is attractive, but the non standard bottom row is hmm. But man, what a gorgeous board.I'm not ai03, but the answer is most likely no. I think everything's pretty much finalized at this point.
Post by: Domantas on Mon, 14 September 2020, 14:08:25
Could the hotswap version have an option for standard ansi layout? 'm new to keyboards so the hotswap is attractive, but the non standard bottom row is hmm. But man, what a gorgeous board.I'm not ai03, but the answer is most likely no. I think everything's pretty much finalized at this point.
I like 7u. There are already bunch of board with 6.25 hotswa
Post by: lan_lach on Tue, 15 September 2020, 10:33:29
Post by: elmo on Tue, 15 September 2020, 10:42:05
Is there another plate design to accommodate split backspace ?if you look at the layout images you can see that the soldered pcb supports split backspace...
Post by: peaceperfection on Tue, 15 September 2020, 22:11:59
Post by: Hdjekso on Tue, 15 September 2020, 22:54:31
Just to check again, will this be an unlimited groupbuy? Or limited?TBA
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Post by: Damogron on Wed, 16 September 2020, 00:13:16
Post by: Andwoo on Wed, 16 September 2020, 00:37:00
Post by: therealabend on Thu, 17 September 2020, 09:15:09
As you may have seen on social media, PCB production samples have arrived and are undergoing testing.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Things are moving along, albeit slowly.
I am gagging for the e-white board :cool: Can't wait!!!
Post by: AnAsianPanda on Thu, 17 September 2020, 14:21:37
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Post by: peaceperfection on Mon, 21 September 2020, 21:41:16
Post by: ainet on Tue, 22 September 2020, 05:27:08
Post by: danawanb on Tue, 22 September 2020, 08:10:53
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 22 September 2020, 21:46:47
Post by: Damogron on Tue, 22 September 2020, 23:22:24
Post by: Heeewa on Wed, 23 September 2020, 09:15:29
Post by: JoltFX on Wed, 23 September 2020, 09:34:20
How do we sign up for updates on the is?I’d check out discord
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Post by: elmo on Wed, 23 September 2020, 10:21:30
How do we sign up for updates on the is?
by waiting for the groupbuy like everybody else.
Post by: eddieboyemo on Wed, 23 September 2020, 11:38:38
Post by: HiiragiAkira on Thu, 24 September 2020, 17:36:55
Post by: bigjohn on Wed, 30 September 2020, 05:40:08
Post by: elmo on Wed, 30 September 2020, 06:06:10
First post! Can't wait for this kit. I hope it's unlimited just like the Polaris ;Dit's not going to be
Post by: santela on Wed, 30 September 2020, 08:26:59
First post! Can't wait for this kit. I hope it's unlimited just like the Polaris ;Dit's not going to be
Says who?
Post by: elmo on Wed, 30 September 2020, 08:36:34
Says who?
pretty much everyone knows it at this point that it's not going to be unlimited after the disaster that the Polaris GB was.
Unlimited creates way too many problems and it's easier to just run multiple limited rounds of a board because that way you can plan ahead how many units you will have to make.
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 30 September 2020, 12:06:43
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Post by: self on Wed, 30 September 2020, 12:08:45
Are you planning to do limited in-stock for international vendors or only US?
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Post by: SolidCactus on Wed, 30 September 2020, 12:10:14
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Awesome! Been waiting for this one!
Post by: hkhawk on Wed, 30 September 2020, 12:13:10
Post by: ..//dexx on Wed, 30 September 2020, 14:50:28
Either way, really excited for this to go live. :thumb:
Post by: Voidec on Wed, 30 September 2020, 15:15:42
Post by: Taizong_of_Tang on Wed, 30 September 2020, 15:19:28
Finally! Been waiting on this one for a while. Hope it's not crazy expensiveShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569657872066019328/760909951391891516/image0.png)
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Post by: tommyhongg on Wed, 30 September 2020, 15:25:23
Says who?
pretty much everyone knows it at this point that it's not going to be unlimited after the disaster that the Polaris GB was.
Unlimited creates way too many problems and it's easier to just run multiple limited rounds of a board because that way you can plan ahead how many units you will have to make.
Looks like it is
Post by: defmoves on Wed, 30 September 2020, 16:33:09
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Oh man, we're going to need to fast on this.
Still fresh myself, wonder if this scene is attracting bot interest like the GPUs do? Remember when we thought AI was going to shoot us in the face? Instead it seems determained to drive us all crazy with cold calls, capchas and buying up all our stuff.
Post by: Surefoot on Wed, 30 September 2020, 16:36:11
Still fresh myself, wonder if this scene is attracting bot interest like the GPUs do?They've been there in force for some time already, long before GPUs, more like collector sneakers.
Post by: defmoves on Wed, 30 September 2020, 16:38:39
They've been there in force for some time already, long before GPUs, more like collector sneakers.
Bugger.
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 30 September 2020, 17:06:17
Post by: CustomerSupport on Wed, 30 September 2020, 20:22:54
Finally! Been waiting on this one for a while. Hope it's not crazy expensiveShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569657872066019328/760909951391891516/image0.png)
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This! I've been waiting for one of these 65% to make it to the actual buy stage haha
Would love to snag a Vega
Post by: basboo on Thu, 01 October 2020, 00:54:33
Post by: FunBox on Thu, 01 October 2020, 01:19:17
Hoping this will be my first expedition into the world above 60%
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Post by: peaceperfection on Thu, 01 October 2020, 06:13:06
So is it a limited in stock purchase and pre-order? Or limited in stock purchase with a chance of unlimited pre-order?
Either way, really excited for this to go live. :thumb:
I second this, hope AI03 is able to clear up this. Is it a limited stock purchase (similar fashion to KBD) then they release an unlimited pre-orders? Or is it limited stock purchase and limited pre-orders?
Post by: zzkhan1996 on Thu, 01 October 2020, 08:41:18
Post by: Hdjekso on Thu, 01 October 2020, 08:55:08
Looks like it will be like the previous kbd 8x mk2 and kbd 67 mk2.which will have spot sale of limited stock as well as a group buy that will deliver 2-3 months laterWhile that may be true, don't go around saying stuff that you're not 100% sure of
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Post by: zzkhan1996 on Thu, 01 October 2020, 09:13:49
Looks like it will be like the previous kbd 8x mk2 and kbd 67 mk2.which will have spot sale of limited stock as well as a group buy that will deliver 2-3 months laterWhile that may be true, don't go around saying stuff that you're not 100% sure of
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Well I said "looks like" not definitely, don't be such a hardass about it
Post by: Hdjekso on Thu, 01 October 2020, 09:26:23
Looks like it will be like the previous kbd 8x mk2 and kbd 67 mk2.which will have spot sale of limited stock as well as a group buy that will deliver 2-3 months laterWhile that may be true, don't go around saying stuff that you're not 100% sure of
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Well I said "looks like" not definitely, don't be such a hardass about it
I'm not being a hardass, your word choice makes it sound like you're fairly certain that what you're saying is true. If you were trying to say that you're purely guessing what the sales format will be, then you should probably rephrase yourself.
Post by: zzkhan1996 on Thu, 01 October 2020, 09:44:31
Looks like it will be like the previous kbd 8x mk2 and kbd 67 mk2.which will have spot sale of limited stock as well as a group buy that will deliver 2-3 months laterWhile that may be true, don't go around saying stuff that you're not 100% sure of
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Well I said "looks like" not definitely, don't be such a hardass about it
I'm not being a hardass, your word choice makes it sound like you're fairly certain that what you're saying is true. If you were trying to say that you're purely guessing what the sales format will be, then you should probably rephrase yourself.
Since when does looks like = definitely? Judging by other group buy in the past that created by ai03 i said that it looks like it will be like that.
Post by: Hdjekso on Thu, 01 October 2020, 09:48:51
Looks like it will be like the previous kbd 8x mk2 and kbd 67 mk2.which will have spot sale of limited stock as well as a group buy that will deliver 2-3 months laterWhile that may be true, don't go around saying stuff that you're not 100% sure of
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Well I said "looks like" not definitely, don't be such a hardass about it
I'm not being a hardass, your word choice makes it sound like you're fairly certain that what you're saying is true. If you were trying to say that you're purely guessing what the sales format will be, then you should probably rephrase yourself.
Since when does looks like = definitely? Judging by other group buy in the past that created by ai03 i said that it looks like it will be like that.
words like 'could' and 'might' indicate possibility, while 'will' implies that something's most likely to be true
Post by: elmo on Thu, 01 October 2020, 09:53:15
Since when does looks like = definitely? Judging by other group buy in the past that created by ai03 i said that it looks like it will be like that.
The only unlimited groupbuy that ai03 ran so far was the Polaris and that created quite a bit of problems during the production and shipping.
The KBD series boards aren't exactly groupbuys and they weren't run by ai03.
They were just a collaboration / commission design work for KBDfans where ai03 had nothing to do with the groupbuy fulfilment.
All other groupbuys that he ran were limited in-stock or pre-orders (Lunar, Andromea, Orbit-X)
Post by: zzkhan1996 on Thu, 01 October 2020, 09:59:43
Since when does looks like = definitely? Judging by other group buy in the past that created by ai03 i said that it looks like it will be like that.
The only unlimited groupbuy that ai03 ran so far was the Polaris and that created quite a bit of problems during the production and shipping.
The KBD series boards aren't exactly groupbuys and they weren't run by ai03.
They were just a collaboration / commission design work for KBDfans where ai03 had nothing to do with the groupbuy fulfilment.
All other groupbuys that he ran were limited in-stock or pre-orders (Lunar, Andromea, Orbit-X)
Doesn't mean there won't be a chance for an unlimited GB though, is up to ai03 choices. Messed up one time doesn't mean you can't learn to do it better next time.
I don't know about how big ai03 company or the company that he cooperative is? But there are unlimited GB with large quantities in the past like the Canoe from Percent studio or Space65/Think 6.5 from Gray studio that went (mostly) without any hiccups.
Oh well, we'll just have to see
Post by: elmo on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:01:17
Doesn't mean there won't be a chance for an unlimited GB though, is up to ai03 choices. Messed up one time doesn't mean you can't learn to do it better next time.
I don't know about how big ai03 company or the company that he cooperative is? But there are unlimited GB with large quantities in the past like the Canoe from Percent studio or Space65/Think 6.5 from Gray studio that went (mostly) without any hiccups.
Oh well, we'll just have to see
You do know that ai03 is one single person?
He's not a company. Nobody in this hobby is.
It's all just hobbyists that like to make stuff.
Keycult for example is just two people. :blank:
And Percent groupbuys are not unlimited either. They just have a very high limit.
Post by: zzkhan1996 on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:03:56
Doesn't mean there won't be a chance for an unlimited GB though, is up to ai03 choices. Messed up one time doesn't mean you can't learn to do it better next time.
I don't know about how big ai03 company or the company that he cooperative is? But there are unlimited GB with large quantities in the past like the Canoe from Percent studio or Space65/Think 6.5 from Gray studio that went (mostly) without any hiccups.
Oh well, we'll just have to see
You do know that ai03 is one single person?
He's not a company. Nobody in this hobby is.
It's all just hobbyists that like to make stuff.
Keycult for example is just two people. :blank:
And Percent groupbuys are not unlimited either. They just have a very high limit.
Well I don't know that but there's a chance that can cooperate with a factory or company that can mass manufacture the Vega and make much less of a mess compare to Polaris right? We'll just have to see
Post by: elmo on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:07:30
Well I don't know that but there's a chance that can cooperate with a factory or company that can mass manufacture the Vega and make much less of a mess compare to Polaris right? We'll just have to see
The Polaris was handled by KBDfans which is probably the biggest vendor in this hobby rn with around 20 people.
And they still created a total mess out of it with one delay after another.
Like I said there aren't really any big companies in this hobby that are able to handle mass production of these high end keyboards.
Manufacturing the stuff is not a problem because there are tons of companies in china that do that kinda stuff.
The handling of the quality control and the shipping is the problem. And you just can't handle 1000+ units in a realistic timeframe with just two or three people.
And most hobbyist vendors are just that small. Even Novelkeys which is probably the largest vendor for the US rn is just 4 people.
Post by: leexy on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:13:37
Looks like it
I don't know
Oh well, we'll just have to see
Well I don't know
We'll just have to see
Post by: zzkhan1996 on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:14:59
Well I don't know that but there's a chance that can cooperate with a factory or company that can mass manufacture the Vega and make much less of a mess compare to Polaris right? We'll just have to see
The Polaris was handled by KBDfans which is probably the biggest vendor in this hobby rn with around 20 people.
And they still created a total mess out of it with one delay after another.
Like I said there aren't really any big companies in this hobby that are able to handle mass production of these high end keyboards.
Manufacturing the stuff is not a problem because there are tons of companies in china that do that kinda stuff.
The handling of the quality control and the shipping is the problem. And you just can't handle 1000+ units in a realistic timeframe with just two or three people.
And most hobbyist vendors are just that small. Even Novelkeys which is probably the largest vendor for the US rn is just 4 people.
Now that you mentioned it not only the polaris but also the GB of kbd67mk2 are abysmal at first. But i would like to keep things on a positive note given how much I loved ai03 design style
Post by: 100 percent horse on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:26:49
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Post by: pRoDeeD on Thu, 01 October 2020, 10:27:20
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Post by: tommyhongg on Thu, 01 October 2020, 17:44:04
Post by: hkhawk on Thu, 01 October 2020, 23:34:53
Post by: tommyhongg on Fri, 02 October 2020, 00:12:24
Is this running on ai03.com?
My guess is no, probably through a vendor like Polaris
Post by: Froosty on Fri, 02 October 2020, 15:08:36
Hopefully it will be available in EU.
Folowing all the news about it.
Cheers!
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Fri, 02 October 2020, 15:18:24
The board looks Amazing! Waiting for it.Only one vendor and it's not going to be an EU one.
Hopefully it will be available in EU.
Folowing all the news about it.
Cheers!
Post by: elmo on Fri, 02 October 2020, 15:21:06
it's still going to be available worldwide.The board looks Amazing! Waiting for it.Only one vendor and it's not going to be an EU one.
Hopefully it will be available in EU.
Folowing all the news about it.
Cheers!
you will just have to pay for international shipping and might have to pay import taxes.
Post by: Froosty on Fri, 02 October 2020, 15:30:28
Oh alright , that will not be an issue for such a beautyit's still going to be available worldwide.The board looks Amazing! Waiting for it.Only one vendor and it's not going to be an EU one.
Hopefully it will be available in EU.
Folowing all the news about it.
Cheers!
you will just have to pay for international shipping and might have to pay import taxes.
Post by: Domantas on Sat, 03 October 2020, 13:06:05
Post by: Audiobs on Sat, 03 October 2020, 14:53:12
Post by: SortaToast on Sat, 03 October 2020, 16:32:30
Post by: acaban on Sat, 03 October 2020, 17:06:18
Post by: StingrayShuffle on Sun, 04 October 2020, 00:19:28
So I am assuming I am to late for this? Kinda new to this whole deal, but if not I am very interested!
You are not late. Keep an eye on this thread for more info.
Post by: eyoung1103 on Sun, 04 October 2020, 02:29:35
Post by: s0faking on Sun, 04 October 2020, 05:51:06
Post by: Domantas on Sun, 04 October 2020, 06:20:04
You can't avoid import tax. It will just be the proxy paying for it and it will reflect in the price.
But it is always cheaper than to pay taxes. They save money somewhere when ordering a lot
Post by: ChrisJoy on Sun, 04 October 2020, 07:59:10
Post by: SortaToast on Sun, 04 October 2020, 10:47:54
So I am assuming I am to late for this? Kinda new to this whole deal, but if not I am very interested!
You are not late. Keep an eye on this thread for more info.
Thank you! Then I am excited for this!
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Mon, 05 October 2020, 19:27:48
You can't avoid import tax. It will just be the proxy paying for it and it will reflect in the price.
But it is always cheaper than to pay taxes. They save money somewhere when ordering a lot
Stop talking nonsense. The price of GBs in EU stores is literally USD price converted in EUR+ VAT (21%). Plus adding vendors adds overall cost to the board across all proxies. I would also like an EU store to proxy it, but I have no issues just ordering it from where ever and then just paying the import tax myself.
Only thing more expensive for us would be shipping.
Post by: kumori on Mon, 05 October 2020, 20:09:25
Post by: Hanabi on Tue, 06 October 2020, 03:24:30
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 October 2020, 11:31:20
Stop talking nonsense. The price of GBs in EU stores is literally USD price converted in EUR+ VAT (21%). Plus adding vendors adds overall cost to the board across all proxies. I would also like an EU store to proxy it, but I have no issues just ordering it from where ever and then just paying the import tax myself.
Only thing more expensive for us would be shipping.
He's not necessarily talking nonsense really, because to be fair it depends on where you're from and what the shipping method is - VAT is 23% where I live and handling fees are through the roof, with other countries having up to like 27%, so for a hobby like keyboards where purchases + shipping can be upward of $600 2 to 6% more along with fees etc can be a decent amount of money. Especially if vendors go with like DHL Express, which basically makes you pay 40-60€ for purchases outside the EU, buying from "local" stores is way cheaper AND easier than importing.
I have paid 100€ in just import fees and VAT for a wrist rest that cost me $80 before, it's not fun, surprises like that do not happen when buying from EU vendors. People have every right to speak up about stuff like that.
Post by: SenseiJia on Tue, 06 October 2020, 22:38:37
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Post by: Darthbaggins on Wed, 07 October 2020, 08:42:00
Post by: Domantas on Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:00:58
Stop talking nonsense. The price of GBs in EU stores is literally USD price converted in EUR+ VAT (21%). Plus adding vendors adds overall cost to the board across all proxies. I would also like an EU store to proxy it, but I have no issues just ordering it from where ever and then just paying the import tax myself.
Only thing more expensive for us would be shipping.
He's not necessarily talking nonsense really, because to be fair it depends on where you're from and what the shipping method is - VAT is 23% where I live and handling fees are through the roof, with other countries having up to like 27%, so for a hobby like keyboards where purchases + shipping can be upward of $600 2 to 6% more along with fees etc can be a decent amount of money. Especially if vendors go with like DHL Express, which basically makes you pay 40-60€ for purchases outside the EU, buying from "local" stores is way cheaper AND easier than importing.
I have paid 100€ in just import fees and VAT for a wrist rest that cost me $80 before, it's not fun, surprises like that do not happen when buying from EU vendors. People have every right to speak up about stuff like that.
Yup, that's how it works. People who didn't pay hundred euro for vat and tax combined won't understand why we love proxies. There are so much more hidden fees than ordering through eu vendor. Vendors always find ways how to cut down cost and both them and us benefit from that. And yes the main problem is when over seas vendors chooses random courier service which ask 40 euro as they are "fullfilling documents"
Post by: santela on Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:23:22
Doesn't mean there won't be a chance for an unlimited GB though, is up to ai03 choices. Messed up one time doesn't mean you can't learn to do it better next time.
I don't know about how big ai03 company or the company that he cooperative is? But there are unlimited GB with large quantities in the past like the Canoe from Percent studio or Space65/Think 6.5 from Gray studio that went (mostly) without any hiccups.
Oh well, we'll just have to see
You do know that ai03 is one single person?
He's not a company. Nobody in this hobby is.
It's all just hobbyists that like to make stuff.
Keycult for example is just two people. :blank:
And Percent groupbuys are not unlimited either. They just have a very high limit.
Wait, I believe Percent GBs are actually unlimited? I got in on the China Skog Reboot GB and that was definitely unlimited. I don't know how they run things internationally though, might be slightly different since the logistics are more difficult. And the Vega pre-order in China will also be unlimited according to Kevinplus.
Post by: halfbasic on Tue, 13 October 2020, 10:49:20
Post by: koma_enu on Wed, 14 October 2020, 23:39:33
Post by: xarly06 on Thu, 15 October 2020, 01:42:00
Do you think GB is performed during this month?9th of October ai03 said this on Discord.
"Vega: This month if all goes well"
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:56:05
Vega was supposed to drop in at mid-October, but due to delays in manufacturing and preparation I'm not 100% sure when it will drop at the moment. Kevin's stated that end of October might be possible if everything goes perfectly, but we all know what happens with ETAs.
All the remaining info will be released in one set (hopefully) once everything is in line.
Post by: kev0 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 02:14:00
Post by: LordOwen on Mon, 19 October 2020, 19:14:29
Sorry for the silence as of late; I oft forget to check GH
Vega was supposed to drop in at mid-October, but due to delays in manufacturing and preparation I'm not 100% sure when it will drop at the moment. Kevin's stated that end of October might be possible if everything goes perfectly, but we all know what happens with ETAs.
All the remaining info will be released in one set (hopefully) once everything is in line.
Excellent quality is always worth the wait! Please don't stress yourself over this, and just let us know when you're ready. Better to have a well-planned product that's great than a rushed one that's not as good :)
Post by: kwany on Mon, 19 October 2020, 23:17:12
Post by: CustomerSupport on Tue, 20 October 2020, 00:01:17
Can't wait for this to drop!
No, I can't wait for this to drop.
Post by: ljyel on Fri, 23 October 2020, 14:38:49
Post by: PuchuKing33 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 18:30:07
Thanks in advanced
Post by: prizeS on Fri, 23 October 2020, 18:39:03
Can wait to get my hands on this case (first build btw). One question, what plate should I pick if I want the keyboard to be silence as possible? The aluminum or Polycarbonate?
Thanks in advanced
Probably PC, metal will have more ping compared to plastic.
Post by: Shinigamii on Sat, 24 October 2020, 23:43:37
Post by: santela on Sun, 25 October 2020, 06:54:12
Really hoping to get my hands on this board! Do we have any idea as to many units there will be? I have been looking around but could not find anything, or is it fair to assume it will be open group buy like his previous Polaris
They never said what quantity is available as in-stock, but if you don't get in on the in-stock, the GB will be unlimited.
Post by: elmo on Sun, 25 October 2020, 06:56:21
it's not confirmed that the GB will be unlimitedReally hoping to get my hands on this board! Do we have any idea as to many units there will be? I have been looking around but could not find anything, or is it fair to assume it will be open group buy like his previous Polaris
They never said what quantity is available as in-stock, but if you don't get in on the in-stock, the GB will be unlimited.
Post by: Sycomore on Sun, 25 October 2020, 07:10:28
it's not confirmed that the GB will be unlimitedReally hoping to get my hands on this board! Do we have any idea as to many units there will be? I have been looking around but could not find anything, or is it fair to assume it will be open group buy like his previous Polaris
They never said what quantity is available as in-stock, but if you don't get in on the in-stock, the GB will be unlimited.
I don't think, that after the Polaris unlimited GB that this will be unlimited at all. I'd assume a high run number but not unlimited.
Post by: thorgnir on Sun, 25 October 2020, 07:22:13
Post by: TskTskTsk on Mon, 26 October 2020, 17:21:50
Post by: santela on Mon, 26 October 2020, 23:06:13
it's not confirmed that the GB will be unlimitedReally hoping to get my hands on this board! Do we have any idea as to many units there will be? I have been looking around but could not find anything, or is it fair to assume it will be open group buy like his previous Polaris
They never said what quantity is available as in-stock, but if you don't get in on the in-stock, the GB will be unlimited.
I don't think, that after the Polaris unlimited GB that this will be unlimited at all. I'd assume a high run number but not unlimited.
All I can say is according to Kevinplus in the Chinese group chat it is unlimited, don't know about international though.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Mon, 26 October 2020, 23:58:22
Post by: Domantas on Tue, 27 October 2020, 14:28:20
I hope this goes on sale between the period Sat 75 ends and Iron 180 begins; allowing me to continue my one ramen noodle a day diet. I sell the flavor packets as my side hustle.
I finally got the term weeb right - when you eat only ramen after buying a lot of boards. That is why there is so much weebs in this community
Post by: pdiddy on Tue, 27 October 2020, 21:18:44
I hope this goes on sale between the period Sat 75 ends and Iron 180 begins; allowing me to continue my one ramen noodle a day diet. I sell the flavor packets as my side hustle.
I finally got the term weeb right - when you eat only ramen after buying a lot of boards. That is why there is so much weebs in this community
:confused:
Post by: kevinplus on Tue, 27 October 2020, 23:08:17
Post by: PuchuKing33 on Wed, 28 October 2020, 08:49:49
Post by: elmo on Wed, 28 October 2020, 08:51:33
I can see that vendor is still TBA, but where do they usually sell? Do they have a European vendor?
ai03 doesn't really have a "usual" vendor. The past groupbuys were run through a variety of different shops. No EU vendor so far unfortunately so prepare to pay VAT :)
Post by: xarly06 on Thu, 29 October 2020, 14:06:38
Post by: Galk on Thu, 29 October 2020, 15:22:26
I hope that i can get one, what a nice job.
Same
Post by: ljyel on Thu, 29 October 2020, 16:17:25
I hope that i can get one, what a nice job.
Same
if we don't, we riot :-[
Post by: o3okevin on Thu, 29 October 2020, 23:48:25
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Fri, 30 October 2020, 18:33:17
I hope this goes on sale between the period Sat 75 ends and Iron 180 begins; allowing me to continue my one ramen noodle a day diet. I sell the flavor packets as my side hustle.
RAMA Kara has entered the game... Let the water fast begin!
Post by: CitrusBay on Sat, 31 October 2020, 00:19:30
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:00:04
Let's get straight to the point.
Availability
In-stock: 1000 units, available on November 14, shipping out within a few weeks.
GB: The GB period will open a few weeks after the in-stock units sell out (currently working out the details), and will ship a few months after in typical GB fashion.
Pricing
359USD for in-stock, 329USD for GB.
Yeah, it's a bit higher than I prefer, but a few things added up:
- Steel weight to avoid the brass problems faced during Polaris
- Larger size and mass
- Hotswap sockets
- Currency exchange rates
- Much more complex design
Hopefully I can drop the price in the future as I improve my design skills for efficient production.
Vendor
typeplus.net - Kevinplus's new storefront that focuses on MX keyboards.
So just the Deskeys that everyone knows and trusts, but separating out the MX stuff to a new name so Deskeys can focus on Topre stuff as originally intended.
Purchasing Options
For the pre-order, there will be the following combinations:
- Plate: Poly or alu, single-layout
- PCB: Hotswap
- Additional parts: Soldering kit; includes 1x solderable PCB and universal layout plate in choice of poly or aluminum and necessary parts.
For the group buy, there will be the following options:
- Plate: Poly or alu, single-layout or universal
- PCB: Hotswap or solderable
- Additional parts: Extra PCB kits, extra plate kits
Case Color Options
All weights are matte black PVD unless otherwise stated.
- Grey
- E-White
- Blue
- Green
- Rose Gold
- Black (Silver PVD weight)
So yeah, that covers just about everything left to announce. We'll see how it goes on November 14.
Post by: azzipa on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:02:57
The minimalistic landing page at typeplus.net looks really good, too.
Post by: xarly06 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:09:27
Post by: MonsterM on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:17:09
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Post by: MK47 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:43:28
Post by: MonsterM on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:45:11
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:55:18
How many units will be available in GB?
More than in-stock quantity, but will leave unannounced.
I guess the site isn’t up yet. But sure looks clean.
Hilariously, the name was decided like 3 hours before the announcement.
Coming up with names is always the most difficult part of anything it seems...
Post by: bball2 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 10:59:29
Post by: Skandiluz on Sat, 31 October 2020, 11:42:00
Post by: tommyhongg on Sat, 31 October 2020, 11:51:05
Post by: xantiema on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:01:59
Post by: hyppialonso on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:11:58
and there are 1000 in-stock units
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sat, 31 October 2020, 15:19:36
Shipping is not specified, could you add some information on that part?Gotta pay for shipping like when buying anything else from the interwebs.
so if the in-stock units are not sold out, the gb will never begin, right?1k for both international and Asia is nothing, will sell out in minutes and that's being generous.
and there are 1000 in-stock units
Post by: MilkTea_QAQ on Sat, 31 October 2020, 15:34:27
He left one thing he didn’t said, China has a higher Priority when comes to in-stock unit. So western may not have enough unit to buy.Shipping is not specified, could you add some information on that part?Gotta pay for shipping like when buying anything else from the interwebs.so if the in-stock units are not sold out, the gb will never begin, right?1k for both international and Asia is nothing, will sell out in minutes and that's being generous.
and there are 1000 in-stock units
Post by: Zeimus on Sat, 31 October 2020, 16:44:59
So I see you purchase the board as hotswap and add-on the soldering kit. Does the soldering kit include extra foam as well?
Thanks!
Post by: chyll2 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 23:26:52
Win!
Post by: thestateofmay on Sun, 01 November 2020, 00:38:06
Post by: preonoid on Sun, 01 November 2020, 00:49:17
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Sun, 01 November 2020, 01:39:14
Let them eat cate
Post by: xantiema on Sun, 01 November 2020, 05:59:08
Shipping is not specified, could you add some information on that part?Gotta pay for shipping like when buying anything else from the interwebs.
What is the point of replying without actually making an effort to answer the question?
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 01 November 2020, 06:59:06
Shipping is not specified, could you add some information on that part?DHL or similar from CN, so I'd assume somewhere around 40USD to the states as long as currency exchange rates don't crash any further.
Couldn't fit in free shipping this time around due to the global situation and its effect on shipping costs.
So I see you purchase the board as hotswap and add-on the soldering kit. Does the soldering kit include extra foam as well?Yes
very much interested in this board on aesthetic alone, but could anyone explain the advantages of this board?With keyboards, the differences are fairly small and diminishing returns kicks in fast.
This specific board uses gaskets and dampers for typing comfort over extended use and controlled acoustics, but whether or not the typing differences will be worth the price difference will be entirely based on how much one values it.
so if the in-stock units are not sold out, the gb will never begin, right?Yes
So the November 14th date, what time zone is that?Likely local CN time since typeplus is based there.
Once the date's a bit closer, I'll reveal a launch time.
Post by: ..//dexx on Sun, 01 November 2020, 07:17:36
Happy that this is similar to how KBD does their GBs. Less stress for people like me who don't mind waiting. Instead of everyone fighting for a slot the moment it goes live.
Post by: thestateofmay on Sun, 01 November 2020, 11:12:18
Post by: azzipa on Sun, 01 November 2020, 12:07:51
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the universal plate and solderable PCBs are only available as extras in the preorder, but will be choosable options in the GB? If so, how much do they cost?
Post by: elmo on Sun, 01 November 2020, 12:09:40
Great question. As I'm reading this, the solderable PCB will only be available in GB, but GB is contingent on 'in-stock' selling out. And the thought of paying another shipping fee for PCB/Plate in GB after ordering the board from stock is a bit painful...the solderable pcb will also be available for the in-stock.So if I'm understanding this correctly, the universal plate and solderable PCBs are only available as extras in the preorder, but will be choosable options in the GB? If so, how much do they cost?
It's the "solder kit" that ai03 mentioned in his post.
Post by: azzipa on Sun, 01 November 2020, 13:39:22
the solderable pcb will also be available for the in-stock.
It's the "solder kit" that ai03 mentioned in his post.
Post by: brianjking on Sun, 01 November 2020, 15:39:13
Post by: thestateofmay on Sun, 01 November 2020, 16:01:44
Great question. As I'm reading this, the solderable PCB will only be available in GB, but GB is contingent on 'in-stock' selling out. And the thought of paying another shipping fee for PCB/Plate in GB after ordering the board from stock is a bit painful...the solderable pcb will also be available for the in-stock.So if I'm understanding this correctly, the universal plate and solderable PCBs are only available as extras in the preorder, but will be choosable options in the GB? If so, how much do they cost?
It's the "solder kit" that ai03 mentioned in his post.
It'd be great to know their prices as well.
Post by: DZSlasher on Sun, 01 November 2020, 18:56:30
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Post by: preonoid on Sun, 01 November 2020, 23:44:26
Quote from: ai03
that makes sense. I am guessing there won't be a sound test video put out before the launch, so would it be a somewhat close approximation for the vega if I referred to polaris sound tests?very much interested in this board on aesthetic alone, but could anyone explain the advantages of this board?With keyboards, the differences are fairly small and diminishing returns kicks in fast.
This specific board uses gaskets and dampers for typing comfort over extended use and controlled acoustics, but whether or not the typing differences will be worth the price difference will be entirely based on how much one values it.
Post by: brianjking on Mon, 02 November 2020, 00:05:25
Looking forward to try to purchase this board. Will there be a limit to the number of in stock boards you can purchase per user/address?I'd hope 1 per person/address for the in-stock sale. Otherwise it's just gonna be flippers snatching up multiple units. Sat75 sold over 1k units today at a higher price point in minutes.
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Post by: ai03 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 01:10:29
that makes sense. I am guessing there won't be a sound test video put out before the launch, so would it be a somewhat close approximation for the vega if I referred to polaris sound tests?
Supposedly Kevinplus sent a unit to both TaehaTypes and Tae, so there is a chance that a build stream or review may appear online prior to sale.
In general, sound is similar sort of character as Polaris, albeit slightly improved.
Post by: dennisbrochill on Mon, 02 November 2020, 02:23:23
Post by: 808San808 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 00:37:41
that makes sense. I am guessing there won't be a sound test video put out before the launch, so would it be a somewhat close approximation for the vega if I referred to polaris sound tests?
Supposedly Kevinplus sent a unit to both TaehaTypes and Tae, so there is a chance that a build stream or review may appear online prior to sale.
In general, sound is similar sort of character as Polaris, albeit slightly improved.
I love my Polaris, can't wait for this
Post by: dstaar on Tue, 03 November 2020, 02:58:18
is the later GB limited or unlimited?
Post by: elmo on Tue, 03 November 2020, 02:59:39
forgive my didn't go over the 14 pages, this probably had been asked and answered,no info on that yet.
is the later GB limited or unlimited?
ai03s answer was "figuring out the details for the gb"
Post by: dstaar on Tue, 03 November 2020, 03:05:25
no info on that yet.thank you,
ai03s answer was "figuring out the details for the gb"
hopefully it's peace of mind, finger crossed!
Post by: Nepherte on Tue, 03 November 2020, 06:26:09
forgive my didn't go over the 14 pages, this probably had been asked and answered,Limited. According to ai03's instagram post.
is the later GB limited or unlimited?
Post by: ..//dexx on Tue, 03 November 2020, 07:35:30
forgive my didn't go over the 14 pages, this probably had been asked and answered,
is the later GB limited or unlimited?
There will be a "soft limit" to the GB. According to the post in IG and Discord, in-stock orders will have 1000 units and the GB will have higher number. It wasn't specified exactly how many more just more than 1000 units.
Post by: LONGZILLA on Tue, 03 November 2020, 12:29:48
Case Color Options
All weights are matte black PVD unless otherwise stated.
- Grey
- E-White
- Blue
- Green
- Rose Gold
- Black (Silver PVD weight)
[attach=1]
Is the 2nd from the left, grey finish? or like a silver prototype? Sorry, I struggle with color/shade matching
Post by: xarly06 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 12:42:58
Case Color Options
All weights are matte black PVD unless otherwise stated.
- Grey
- E-White
- Blue
- Green
- Rose Gold
- Black (Silver PVD weight)
(Attachment Link)
Is the 2nd from the left, grey finish? or like a silver prototype? Sorry, I struggle with color/shade matching
I think it is the Rose gold
Post by: ..//dexx on Tue, 03 November 2020, 12:57:01
Case Color Options
All weights are matte black PVD unless otherwise stated.
- Grey
- E-White
- Blue
- Green
- Rose Gold
- Black (Silver PVD weight)
(Attachment Link)
Is the 2nd from the left, grey finish? or like a silver prototype? Sorry, I struggle with color/shade matching
From left to right: e-white, rose gold, green, blue, grey and black.
Post by: LONGZILLA on Tue, 03 November 2020, 13:14:04
From left to right: e-white, rose gold, green, blue, grey and black.
thanks mate
Post by: Pwnmode on Wed, 04 November 2020, 14:34:26
Post by: Eonday on Thu, 05 November 2020, 00:37:06
Post by: azzipa on Thu, 05 November 2020, 20:11:21
Post by: sirieous on Thu, 05 November 2020, 20:17:27
Any price update? I'm kinda sorta looking at Vega vs. Pizza keeb (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109266.0). Wondering if I want to dip my toe in the 65% waters.359 USD for in stock. 329 USD for GB. It's been posted in replies, just do a bit of digging.
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Post by: preonoid on Fri, 06 November 2020, 00:53:09
that would be amazing, thank you so much for the info !that makes sense. I am guessing there won't be a sound test video put out before the launch, so would it be a somewhat close approximation for the vega if I referred to polaris sound tests?
Supposedly Kevinplus sent a unit to both TaehaTypes and Tae, so there is a chance that a build stream or review may appear online prior to sale.
In general, sound is similar sort of character as Polaris, albeit slightly improved.
Post by: peterg on Fri, 06 November 2020, 05:37:07
Post by: azzipa on Fri, 06 November 2020, 10:16:35
(https://i.ibb.co/yBpbY90/TBA.png) (https://ibb.co/yBpbY90)
Any price update? I'm kinda sorta looking at Vega vs. Pizza keeb (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109266.0). Wondering if I want to dip my toe in the 65% waters.359 USD for in stock. 329 USD for GB. It's been posted in replies, just do a bit of digging.
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Post by: aclassynerd on Fri, 06 November 2020, 23:34:25
Thank you. And you're right: I could have read through 14 pages of comments, or I could look at the OP (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106983.0) and see this:
(https://i.ibb.co/yBpbY90/TBA.png) (https://ibb.co/yBpbY90)Any price update? I'm kinda sorta looking at Vega vs. Pizza keeb (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109266.0). Wondering if I want to dip my toe in the 65% waters.359 USD for in stock. 329 USD for GB. It's been posted in replies, just do a bit of digging.
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Post by: elisyan on Tue, 10 November 2020, 12:40:12
Edit: referring to this
(https://i.imgur.com/ZJVOfdp.png)
Post by: maxohmax on Tue, 10 November 2020, 13:52:57
Post by: DukeEsquire on Wed, 11 November 2020, 10:47:30
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 11 November 2020, 17:58:49
Is there a time for the in stock sale? I can't find it anywhere.
TBA
Post by: Galk on Thu, 12 November 2020, 00:36:34
In-stock: 1000 units, available on November 14, shipping out within a few weeks.
GB: The GB period will open a few weeks after the in-stock units sell out (currently working out the details), and will ship a few months after in typical GB fashion.
This is what the update says (in the comments)
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Post by: ZongZiWang on Thu, 12 November 2020, 09:26:00
AvailabilityNote that there are nearly half of the 1000 in stock units already sold in China exclusive in stock sale event last weekend.
In-stock: 1000 units, available on November 14, shipping out within a few weeks.
GB: The GB period will open a few weeks after the in-stock units sell out (currently working out the details), and will ship a few months after in typical GB fashion.
This is what the update says (in the comments)
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Post by: hkhawk on Thu, 12 November 2020, 16:12:24
Post by: A.Belousov on Thu, 12 November 2020, 16:26:58
Post by: kev0 on Thu, 12 November 2020, 16:51:32
Here is the blue from someone in the Discord who has their hands on a real board. I'm sad it is not as Navy as it looked in the render, but I guess it will have to do.
Post by: paperassgasket on Thu, 12 November 2020, 17:25:44
Post by: anticlockwise5 on Thu, 12 November 2020, 22:15:25
I think it's because of intense lighting, if you look at the weight, it's supposed to be matte black, but it's showing grey in the photo, that means the blue is lighter than it should be in the photo.Show Image(https://i.redd.it/01r64f9v7my51.png)
Here is the blue from someone in the Discord who has their hands on a real board. I'm sad it is not as Navy as it looked in the render, but I guess it will have to do.
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Post by: codedf on Thu, 12 November 2020, 22:58:40
I think it's because of intense lighting, if you look at the weight, it's supposed to be matte black, but it's showing grey in the photo, that means the blue is lighter than it should be in the photo.Show Image(https://i.redd.it/01r64f9v7my51.png)
Here is the blue from someone in the Discord who has their hands on a real board. I'm sad it is not as Navy as it looked in the render, but I guess it will have to do.
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The "matte black" weight will look more or less like the pictures. I have the polaris and the weight on the back matches the picture above.
Either way, I'm very excited for this board. Kev and ai03 did an amazing job yet again.
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 12 November 2020, 23:38:38
Post by: ai03 on Fri, 13 November 2020, 04:21:45
Vega's in-stock international sale batch will be released on November 14th at 12:01 PM EST. We picked the time to be a nice compromise to make it as accessible as possible around the globe; hopefully this won't result in everyone having to wake up super early in the morning or whatnot.
The payment methods available will be Shop Pay (Shopify Pay), Google Pay, and typical regular checkout (entering card info and addr real-time).
Over the next day or so, the storefront will be finalized and published at http://typeplus.net/ (http://typeplus.net/). This will likely be the last reliable announcement from my side regarding the release time, so please set your alarm clocks and convert timezones as necessary.
Best of luck to all who wish to purchase, and if you miss, don't panic for the group buy announcement is right around the corner.
P.S. I am 1000x more active at Discord to the point where I oft forget to post to GH in general. If you wish to get consistent, reliable info, please join my Discord server linked on the first post and obtain the necessary roles for receiving notifications.
Post by: sevenseacat on Fri, 13 November 2020, 05:47:46
edit. UTC-5. Had it shouted at me rather snarkily on Discord because everyone knows that American timezones are the only timezones apparently.
Post by: elmo on Fri, 13 November 2020, 09:02:14
uh, what timezone is that?
edit. UTC-5. Had it shouted at me rather snarkily on Discord because everyone knows that American timezones are the only timezones apparently.
It literally says EST in ai03s post.
Learn how to read.
Post by: pdiddy on Fri, 13 November 2020, 16:48:05
uh, what timezone is that?
edit. UTC-5. Had it shouted at me rather snarkily on Discord because everyone knows that American timezones are the only timezones apparently.
It literally says EST in ai03s post.
Learn how to read.
Man you are nothing but negativity
Post by: bball2 on Fri, 13 November 2020, 17:00:18
uh, what timezone is that?
edit. UTC-5. Had it shouted at me rather snarkily on Discord because everyone knows that American timezones are the only timezones apparently.
(https://i.imgur.com/BiWPYZD.jpg)
Post by: brouhaha on Fri, 13 November 2020, 17:37:45
Post by: rychaithescienceguy on Fri, 13 November 2020, 21:35:55
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 14 November 2020, 01:51:49
This might be a dumb question, but do the number of gaskets impact the typing feel?
I'd say the implementation matters more than the quantity.
With Vega, the number grew due to necessity more than anything else.
Post by: bball2 on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:03:58
Fingers crossed for group buy :)
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:05:08
Post by: genevatypes on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:05:20
Post by: phlux on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:05:52
RIP, sold out in < 30s
I hesitated when I saw $60 shipping and in that time it sold out.
Post by: brianjking on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:06:06
Post by: despairsray on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:06:43
Post by: Rubydestroyer on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:07:16
Post by: ackzot on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:09:23
Edit: maybe it was more than 30 sec, but regardless sold out fast.
Post by: bigjohn on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:09:56
Post by: brianjking on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:10:09
Sold out in less than 3 minutes. Wow.
It was more like 30-60 seconds from my experience.
Post by: SolidCactus on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:11:44
Post by: despairsray on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:13:11
Sold out in less than 3 minutes. Wow.
It was more like 30-60 seconds from my experience.
That is what I saw as well. The product launch was also slightly delayed for me. I didn't see the Vega on the site until around 9:00:30-45ish. (pst)
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:16:51
Post by: JJJJAWN on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:24:19
Post by: Skandiluz on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:26:38
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:27:15
I also thought he could have pointed that out without the “literally” or “learn to read” bits. Uncalled for.uh, what timezone is that?
edit. UTC-5. Had it shouted at me rather snarkily on Discord because everyone knows that American timezones are the only timezones apparently.
It literally says EST in ai03s post.
Learn how to read.
Man you are nothing but negativity
Post by: TSUT0 on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:27:43
Those who did get through, did you get any email confirmation?
Yeah, I got a confirmation e-mail pretty soon after purchase
Post by: CustomerSupport on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:28:46
Those who did get through, did you get any email confirmation?
Check spam; that's where it was for me.
Post by: JJJJAWN on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:30:15
Those who did get through, did you get any email confirmation?
Yeah, I got a confirmation e-mail pretty soon after purchase
Hmmmmm. I did things so quickly through Apple Pay I don’t know if I put in an email address. Thanks though. Maybe I’ll reach out to them in an email.
Post by: CaliforniaRoll on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:31:23
Those who did get through, did you get any email confirmation?
Used Google Pay. Nabbed a Blue/Alu. Got text confirmation instantly.
Excited!
Post by: elmo on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:32:00
Got in for a grey one.
For those that didn't get one of the in-stock units:
GL in the GB :)
Post by: JJJJAWN on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:32:15
Was able to grab an E-White/Alu :D Super excited. Now to save to get another PCB kit.Those who did get through, did you get any email confirmation?
Check spam; that's where it was for me.
Ahh I’m dumb. Thanks dude! It was in there. Got one in blue!
Post by: ..//dexx on Sat, 14 November 2020, 11:33:22
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 14 November 2020, 12:15:43
Group Buy Details
- It is not unlimited; however, it is with a much higher volume cap than in-stock units. The limit exists so Kevin doesn't collapse from overwork.
- Give us some time before we can get it ready; Kevin is already burnt out from a full week of QCing, and I'm reaching my limits with organization.
- Anything else is TBA. I'll post to my Discord and here (if I can remember to do so) as stuff is decided.
Post by: Shinigamii on Sat, 14 November 2020, 12:18:52
Post by: nu_types on Sat, 14 November 2020, 13:45:16
Those who did get through, did you get any email confirmation?
My order went through, but I did not receive an email either. I have an order number and the transaction is pending on my bank account, so im not too concerned.
Post by: sirieous on Sat, 14 November 2020, 13:45:40
Good luck to everyone in the group buy
Post by: ZongZiWang on Sat, 14 November 2020, 14:06:57
I found in my spam folder, check that?Those who did get through, did you get any email confirmation?
My order went through, but I did not receive an email either. I have an order number and the transaction is pending on my bank account, so im not too concerned.
Post by: ZongZiWang on Sat, 14 November 2020, 14:09:58
The Sale scheduled to begin at 12:01 EST, which is one minute after 9:00 PST. How come you can see it before 9:01 PST lolSold out in less than 3 minutes. Wow.
It was more like 30-60 seconds from my experience.
That is what I saw as well. The product launch was also slightly delayed for me. I didn't see the Vega on the site until around 9:00:30-45ish. (pst)
Post by: musdem on Sat, 14 November 2020, 15:32:21
Post by: despairsray on Sat, 14 November 2020, 16:34:42
The Sale scheduled to begin at 12:01 EST, which is one minute after 9:00 PST. How come you can see it before 9:01 PST lolSold out in less than 3 minutes. Wow.
It was more like 30-60 seconds from my experience.
That is what I saw as well. The product launch was also slightly delayed for me. I didn't see the Vega on the site until around 9:00:30-45ish. (pst)
It was just a rough estimate on how it felt, wasn't speaking matter-of-fact lol. I was not aware that the launch was 9:01 pst and not 9:00. Either way, they were sold out in around a minute while Google Pay was stuck a loading.
Post by: dtywill on Sat, 14 November 2020, 17:39:02
Been in the hobby for a while but this year is my first year trying to participate in group buys that aren't switches or keycaps. I don't see how you all stand it lol I waited like 9 months for Ghost Linear switches and that wore my patience!
Post by: bakerozee on Sat, 14 November 2020, 18:10:34
Been watching this board since the beginning was right there ready to go at 12:01 and STILL wasn't able to get one! Sold off all my other boards and am left with my Practice65 as my daily driver until my Melody65 and D65 come in but I was hoping for a new board before Christmas/New Year!
Been in the hobby for a while but this year is my first year trying to participate in group buys that aren't switches or keycaps. I don't see how you all stand it lol I waited like 9 months for Ghost Linear switches and that wore my patience!
High demand for everything and little stock, but that's just the way it is now. It was super smooth except for Google Pay was really slow to load which isn't any fault of the guys. Get into the GB mate and wait it out for a while, or pay the reseller price.
Onward.
Post by: dtywill on Sat, 14 November 2020, 18:12:29
Oh yeah I’m well aware. I’m not surprised per se I know how it goes. One thing I have learned early on in the hobby is to get over FOMO. My next attempt will be for the Box75 whenever that one startsBeen watching this board since the beginning was right there ready to go at 12:01 and STILL wasn't able to get one! Sold off all my other boards and am left with my Practice65 as my daily driver until my Melody65 and D65 come in but I was hoping for a new board before Christmas/New Year!
Been in the hobby for a while but this year is my first year trying to participate in group buys that aren't switches or keycaps. I don't see how you all stand it lol I waited like 9 months for Ghost Linear switches and that wore my patience!
High demand for everything and little stock, but that's just the way it is now. It was super smooth except for Google Pay was really slow to load which isn't any fault of the guys. Get into the GB mate and wait it out for a while, or pay the reseller price.
Onward.
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Post by: ButDutWut on Sat, 14 November 2020, 18:37:12
Post by: RoosterTM on Sat, 14 November 2020, 19:23:58
Post by: novelflyer on Sat, 14 November 2020, 20:27:33
Post by: Tekniqs on Sun, 15 November 2020, 00:44:11
Post by: steezkeez on Sun, 15 November 2020, 01:39:21
ty for the smooth buy
Post by: Space_Case88 on Sun, 15 November 2020, 02:15:48
Post by: peterg on Sun, 15 November 2020, 07:13:34
Post by: PhantomKyubii on Sun, 15 November 2020, 09:43:26
Post by: SeedyOne on Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:37:12
Post by: Galk on Tue, 17 November 2020, 04:04:07
Sad
Pray for GB
Post by: defmoves on Tue, 17 November 2020, 12:32:11
I was too slow :(
Sad
Pray for GB
Same. :-[
Post by: preonoid on Tue, 17 November 2020, 23:09:42
and it looks a more muted, darker green than either the render or the sample posted on typeplus. is the typeplus image truest to the actual color?
Post by: videozane on Thu, 19 November 2020, 14:50:32
Post by: maxohmax on Fri, 20 November 2020, 12:38:45
Post by: maxohmax on Tue, 24 November 2020, 17:26:02
Post by: bball2 on Tue, 24 November 2020, 18:31:24
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Vega Group Buy Details
Again, let's get straight to the point.
Unit Cap
Yes, one exists. Mainly so that QC and packing doesn't go out of control.
The cap quantity is significantly higher than the quantity we had for in-stock. I'll leave it undisclosed for now, similar to exact quantity not being disclosed for Polaris.
Available Products
- Base kit, 329 USD. Your choice of plate material (Aluminum or Polycarbonate), plate style (Single-layout or Universal), and PCB style (Hotswap or Soldering).
- Extra plates, 29 USD. Your choice of plate material and style.
- Extra PCBs, 39 USD. Your choice of PCB style.
Limits
Up to 2 base kits, 2 extra plates, and 2 extra PCBs per household.
Any purchases for only extra parts without a base kit will be voided, since... well, hard to use keyboard parts without the keyboard itself.
Release Date
11/28 12:01PM US Eastern Time (EST) at typeplus.net.
Note: This time is not for the soldering kit for previous in-stock buyers. Read below for that.
Soldering Kits for In-Stock Buyers
If you were not able to secure a soldering kit during the in-stock phase, we will offer soldering kits during the group buy as well.
To be eligible, you must write your order number for the in-stock base kit when prompted (will be on the product page).
In addition, this is strictly for those who were not able to purchase a soldering kit during the in-stock phase; all who were able to purchase one during the in-stock phase will be ineligible for purchasing additional kits.
Note that these will drop on 11/30 at 12:01PM EST rather than on 11/28 to avoid confusion during the main GB.
And I believe that covers just about everything.
If you'd like to enjoy a build stream prior to the buy, don't forget to tune in to the TaehaTypes channel on Thursday at 10AM US Pacific Time (PST).
Didn't think I'd have to add this, but here we go
- Extra plates, parts, etc.: Definitely want to do it, but not realistic rn when a $5 set of gaskets would carry a $50 shipping cost. Likely after covid clears out, but simply impractical before such.
- ETA is undecided as usual. If I had to take a wild guess which is literally only as good as yours, I'd guess mid 2021.
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 25 November 2020, 05:53:13
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Vega Group Buy Details
As per last time, getting straight to the important details.
Unit Cap
Yes, one exists, albeit mainly so that QC and packing doesn't go out of control.
The cap quantity is significantly higher than the in-stock batch. I'll leave it undisclosed for now, similar to exact quantity not being disclosed for Polaris.
Available Products
- Base kit - 329 USD. Your choice of plate material (Aluminum or Polycarbonate), plate style (Single-layout or Universal), and PCB style (Hotswap or Soldering).
- Extra plates - 29 USD. Your choice of plate material and style.
- Extra PCBs - 39 USD. Your choice of PCB style.
Limits
Up to 2 base kits, 2 extra plates, and 2 extra PCBs per household.
Any purchases for only extra parts without a base kit will be voided, since... well, hard to use keyboard parts without the keyboard itself.
Release Date
11/28 12:01PM US Eastern Time (EST) at typeplus.net.
Note: This time is not for the soldering kit for previous in-stock buyers. Read below for that.
ETAs
Undecided as usual, mainly due to the possibility of wildly differing quantities ordered during group buy and the different lead times per each range.
If I had to make an uneducated guess based on no proof or evidence, it would be mid-2021.
Replacement Parts
Many people have contacted me regarding the possibility of selling extra gaskets, foam layers, plates, etc. at a later time. I would love to, but in the current global situation it is simply impractical (i.e. 50USD shipping on a 5USD set of gaskets or whatnot). Hopefully will get around to supplying these parts later on.
And I believe that covers just about everything regarding the GB.
If you'd like to enjoy a build stream prior to the buy, don't forget to tune in to the TaehaTypes channel on Thursday at 10AM US Pacific Time (PST).
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Soldering Kits for In-Stock Buyers
If you were not able to secure a soldering kit during the in-stock phase, we will offer soldering kits during the group buy as well.
To be eligible, you must write your order number for the in-stock base kit when prompted (will be on the product page).
In addition, this is strictly for those who were not able to purchase a soldering kit during the in-stock phase; all who were able to purchase one during the in-stock phase will be ineligible for purchasing additional kits.
Note that these will drop on 11/30 at 12:01PM EST rather than on 11/28 to avoid confusion during the main GB.
Note 2: Currently considering offering hotswap parts for this as well, although might not happen due to logistics complications.
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Regarding in-stock buyer shipping/tracking info
All units without a soldering kit have been shipped out by the crew responsible for handling shipment.
However, we only received the tracking number list today after a massive delay, so we'll get to work entering those numbers into Shopify as soon as possible.
Units with soldering kits will be shipped as soon as the outer box to bundle the two products arrive.
Post by: prizeS on Wed, 25 November 2020, 17:46:57
Regarding in-stock buyer shipping/tracking info
All units without a soldering kit have been shipped out by the crew responsible for handling shipment.
However, we only received the tracking number list today after a massive delay, so we'll get to work entering those numbers into Shopify as soon as possible.
Units with soldering kits will be shipped as soon as the outer box to bundle the two products arrive.
weeeeeeeee
thanks for the update - i forgot to get a spare soldering kit with an alu plate so i will need that, too. looking forward to it coming in!
Post by: KrisDC on Thu, 26 November 2020, 09:40:52
Post by: brln on Thu, 26 November 2020, 09:54:26
Release Date
11/28 12:01PM US Eastern Time (EST) at typeplus.net.
Note: This time is not for the soldering kit for previous in-stock buyers. Read below for that.
Post by: KrisDC on Thu, 26 November 2020, 10:31:00
Release Date
11/28 12:01PM US Eastern Time (EST) at typeplus.net.
Note: This time is not for the soldering kit for previous in-stock buyers. Read below for that.
That not the answer to my question. The question was not when the groupbuy will be helt but where...
Post by: paperassgasket on Thu, 26 November 2020, 10:35:31
Did you just stop reading after 12:01?
Release Date
11/28 12:01PM US Eastern Time (EST) at typeplus.net.
Note: This time is not for the soldering kit for previous in-stock buyers. Read below for that.
That not the answer to my question. The question was not when the groupbuy will be helt but where...
It says typeplus.net
Post by: bball2 on Thu, 26 November 2020, 11:33:41
Did you just stop reading after 12:01?
It says typeplus.net
Lol :p
Post by: heyimpanda on Thu, 26 November 2020, 12:18:45
Post by: Bobatype on Thu, 26 November 2020, 16:47:29
someone pull up that discord message saying something like 'everyone in this hobby can type but they cant read'I love this quote haha
Post by: azzipa on Fri, 27 November 2020, 14:44:53
Did you just stop reading after 12:01?
Release Date
11/28 12:01PM US Eastern Time (EST) at typeplus.net.
Note: This time is not for the soldering kit for previous in-stock buyers. Read below for that.
That not the answer to my question. The question was not when the groupbuy will be helt but where...
It says typeplus.net
Post by: surreal19 on Fri, 27 November 2020, 20:52:14
Did you just stop reading after 12:01?
Release Date
11/28 12:01PM US Eastern Time (EST) at typeplus.net.
Note: This time is not for the soldering kit for previous in-stock buyers. Read below for that.
That not the answer to my question. The question was not when the groupbuy will be helt but where...
It says typeplus.net
LMFAOOO
Post by: SoupIsTasty5 on Sat, 28 November 2020, 09:44:52
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 28 November 2020, 09:46:48
Post by: rageurdream on Sat, 28 November 2020, 10:48:02
What are the main differences between the Universal and the Single Layout plates for Vega? Just looking for some guidance in making a decision between them & if it'd be helpful to pick up one of each.ai03 has plate files for the Vega available on their website. The reply above is correct: The universal plate has more cutouts in several parts of the plate to accommodate a wider variety of layouts, whereas the single layout plate only supports one.
I've attached snips of the plate files viewed from a CAD program. The first image is the universal plate, the second is the single layout plate. Notice the universal plate's wide cutouts on the bottom row, which will allow for a variety of bottom row layouts.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/b47f12e6fab59690ef060f6f267e6434.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/486e4bd63a83ed6cf96d9cf9ec700218.jpg)
Post by: SirKhamenman on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:06:22
Post by: Sigil on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:08:03
Does TypePlus do region lock? It says it cannot deliver to the Netherlands :(Getting the same message for a US address.
Post by: bball2 on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:09:38
Edit: for anyone not able to checkout, I think if you are trying to order 2 base kits things get disabled. Was able to check out with a single base kit.
Post by: peterg on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:09:50
Post by: SirKhamenman on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:10:41
Post by: brln on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:11:14
Post by: pdiddy on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:14:02
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:36:55
Post by: SirKhamenman on Sat, 28 November 2020, 11:47:43
Post by: elmo on Sat, 28 November 2020, 13:05:19
Does anyone here know where does Ai03 based on?ai03 is from japan and kevinplus is chinese.
the boards are made in china and will ship from china.
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 28 November 2020, 13:34:47
"Shipping not available" issues:
This was caused by having more than one base kit in the order, which results in combined weight going beyond what we calculated shipping for.
We will refund the shipping cost difference for individually placed orders for multiple base kits; see below for more details.
For combined orders of base kit + extra parts:
The combined shipping is actually calculated properly, whether or not it was done in one purchase. The shipping cost bound to the extra parts is the difference the base kit's shipping cost would go up by when the extra part gets tacked on to the main package.
Regarding CN group buy:
Kevin will likely be setting this up shortly on his Taobao storefront.
Regarding GB period:
If it doesn't sell out by Dec 12 12:01PM EST, GB will close and head into manufacturing phase.
Order edit form
For plate/PCB chances, color changes, address changes, etc.
Please note that color/plate/PCB cannot be edited once actual production begins.
https://forms.gle/NdZpVQtRaSSGUGk96
Shipping cost refund form for those who purchased multiple base kits across separate orders
Again, this does not apply if you only purchased a single base kit with multiple extra parts, since that calculates combined shipping properly.
https://forms.gle/1QkMMC75FLWEeh7W6
ETA:
Currently a vague "mid-2021". Will update once order quantities are finalized and discussed with factories.
In-stock purchases with soldering kits:
They are wrapping up the packaging phase, and are preparing to ship. I apologize for the delay; getting them packed took a lot longer than we expected.
Extra parts in the future
Currently infeasible due to ridiculous intl shipping costs, but would like to at a later time.
GH GB thread:
I need to set this up asap.
Post by: preonoid on Sun, 29 November 2020, 18:17:42
i'll learn to read next time
Post by: Hdjekso on Sun, 29 November 2020, 18:32:07
will the groupbuy purchase allow one to change the shipping address before packing/shipping occurs? I am almost certain I will be moving early 2021 and wanted to make certain I could receive the package
Read the above comment
Post by: SmoothFaces on Sun, 29 November 2020, 18:56:36
Post by: Akck67 on Wed, 02 December 2020, 23:20:43
Post by: hkhawk on Thu, 03 December 2020, 00:25:33
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if we order an extra plate does it come with extra gaskets?
It does!
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 03 December 2020, 01:21:17
Is there an order check spreadsheet to verify ?