[IC] GMK sets interest check and planning

[dirge]

I think a cap set to match Hash's new wrist rest by beast.

[fruktstund]

It's going to be hard to decide on a colour when we all have different monitors. :/

Let's just all buy a 10-bit monitor and a graphics card capable of 10-bit output, and the problem is solved. Problem is most people here won't have $3000 to spend on a 10-bit workstation just for keyboard mockups.

Something I thought about just now is that maybe people are getting a bit too optimistic? Do we actually know what colours GMK are able to offer? A coffee and cream set we know would be possible, but as for some of the others, I don't think we do. :>

With that said, colour lovers: vote for Handarbeit!

[TheProfosist]

It's going to be hard to decide on a colour when we all have different monitors. :/

Let's just all buy a 10-bit monitor and a graphics card capable of 10-bit output, and the problem is solved. Problem is most people here won't have $3000 to spend on a 10-bit workstation just for keyboard mockups.

Something I thought about just now is that maybe people are getting a bit too optimistic? Do we actually know what colours GMK are able to offer? A coffee and cream set we know would be possible, but as for some of the others, I don't think we do. :>

With that said, colour lovers: vote for Handarbeit!

I have the 10bit monitor bit and low end quadro card isnt too expensive...

[emptythecache]

If you guys vote up some weird bull**** and skidata doesn't get made, we're going to have to have a serious talk.

[Alessandro]

Would it be a good idea to remove classic 0 and Olivetti from the voting now that Sherry is selling them?

[GMC]

I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?

[Alessandro]

I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?

I don't think there's enough left on ebay for everyone who wants one to get one. Plus the only ones left are in Nordic ISO.

[emptythecache]

I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?

a full ansi layout.

[jdcarpe]

^ This. No ANSI Skidata are available.

[CPTBadAss]

Lime on Purple and PCB green on Blue are super nice.

But that Miami?? Who do I throw my money at?!

[fruktstund]

I have the 10bit monitor bit and low end quadro card isnt too expensive...

I was mostly joking, but now I'm interested; are the low end quadro cards any good? Would be nice to know when I buy a 10-bit monitor again (had a Dell U3011 for a while, but wasn't really content with it because of problems with colour uniformity).

I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?

I also bought one, but a brand new set from GMK for 80€ seems better than a quite heavily used one for 80€ in my opinion. Of course you get an alright keyboard with it, but if you're only buying it for the keycaps... (One should note I didn't buy mine only for the keycaps, since I mostly use ANSI.)

[pasph]

I have the 10bit monitor bit and low end quadro card isnt too expensive...

I was mostly joking, but now I'm interested; are the low end quadro cards any good? Would be nice to know when I buy a 10-bit monitor again (had a Dell U3011 for a while, but wasn't really content with it because of problems with colour uniformity).

I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?

I also bought one, but a brand new set from GMK for 80€ seems better than a quite heavily used one for 80€ in my opinion. Of course you get an alright keyboard with it, but if you're only buying it for the keycaps... (One should note I didn't buy mine only for the keycaps, since I mostly use ANSI.)

Or just buy this
http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1302

[Broadmonkey]

I don't think there's enough left on ebay for everyone who wants one to get one. Plus the only ones left are in Nordic ISO.

Isn't it DE ISO that is left? I don't see any Nordic.

[inlikeflynn]

With that said, colour lovers: vote for Handarbeit!

Ok here's Handarbeit:



was just messing around so the colors aren't really accurate and had to guess on a couple of them due to the original being DE ISO layout.
it looks even stranger on 1800 layout with how the the clusters are different than a 3000 

[Alessandro]

I don't think there's enough left on ebay for everyone who wants one to get one. Plus the only ones left are in Nordic ISO.

Isn't it DE ISO that is left? I don't see any Nordic.

Might be, I've not checked in a while.

[IvanIvanovich]

Wow, a lot of activity and some really nice ideas. As far as colors go, custom colors can be ordered, though many of them will have a stock match within a shade or 2 I imagine.

[AKIMbO]

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kya~~~ :-*

Switch the green for orange and I'm in.  Classic GH colors right there.

lysol, can you add this set to the IC. I bet we could get a 400 MOQ from it. Since Dolch should be off the table now...

Not my pic, btw. Someone please claim credit for it. :)

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^There we go...shame on me for reading a thread backwards.

[asura]

Let's just all buy a 10-bit monitor and a graphics card capable of 10-bit output, and the problem is solved.

I'm way a head of you... well ok, not quite.  U2410 still uses an 8-bit panel, but it's internal colour processing is 10-bit and its ARGB is 96% - but I use sRGB so it's 100% which is nice, Quadro FX4600 (which will dynamically output 8,10, or 12 bit based on the monitor), and Photoshop.  I'm on my netbook at the moment (little Samsung) and the first C&C layout looks closer to what I know it should be than the version done with my colours.

Of course this is entirely dependent on the quality of the source.

I may have another play this evening to see if I can come up with anything else I like.

[pasph]

The only real 10bit monitor are those with LM240WU5-SLA1 LG panel (LG W2420R, HP LP2480zx, Quatographic Intelli Proof 240) really needed by a little range of applications.
A colourimeter and a monitor with a 3D LUT at 14 or 16-bit precision are what will ensure a greater number of shades and smooth transitions between them

[precarious]

and the first C&C layout looks closer to what I know it should be than the version done with my colours.

I may have another play this evening to see if I can come up with anything else I like.

i don't think either was necessarily perfect, of course.  perhaps a mix of the two?

i'd still really like to see one of those lovely 3d renders done for it, though.

[agor]

Really want that German Dolch, don't change your votes!

[IvanIvanovich]

Current polling, trend on colorway took a big change. Dolch is still currently in the lead, but only just with SkiData and TA tied for 2nd by slim margins with handarbiet now in third. Language choice remains fairly steady with US, GB, DE and ES still in the majority in that order. SF and NO are likely to happen, FR is getting there, everything else is still up in the air.

Things are staying pretty steady, it's still as above with 250 votes after cleaning up multiple votes from same voter name (I only kept the most recent time stamp vote). With that many votes as long as there is follow through with actual orders I really think we can do it.

I think what I will do, is leave that poll open for 2 more weeks, then declare a winner for classic colorway. During this time we will keep brainstorming on the community colorways then get that voting going. Once we have the 2 colorway winners we will get all the sets details ironed out fully with what will be included and not legend and size wise, and start planning on how best to handle the actual buy in regard to payment collection and logistics and so on.

[ApocalypseMaow]

Dolch white on grey/charcoal all the way. Ill take x5!

[sleepy916]

Olivetti blue on white/grey. ~~

[Leewei]

Olivetti blue on white/grey. ~~

Doubt that will be a choice anymore. You can get that at Originative store =)

[damorgue]

Olivetti blue on white/grey. ~~

Doubt that will be a choice anymore. You can get that at Originative store =)

Not all the kits I assume.

[IvanIvanovich]

It's still a choice Olivetti, and I didn't remove it for that reason of only US ANSI is available from originative. Though, voting for it have almost stopped and some people enter a new vote to change from it.

[OrangeJewce]

whee voted!

Cheers,

[IvanIvanovich]

Okidata? Aren't they just a printer company?

[keymaster]

The Skidata set would look amazing on the new blue vortex aluminum case..

[emptythecache]

*fake cough*

[bazemk1979]

With that said, colour lovers: vote for Handarbeit!

Ok here's Handarbeit:

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was just messing around so the colors aren't really accurate and had to guess on a couple of them due to the original being DE ISO layout.
it looks even stranger on 1800 layout with how the the clusters are different than a 3000  :-\

wow would love to see this Handarbeit set happen, thick ABS DS mhmhmh!!!! but I'm really doubtfull that it will happen

[IvanIvanovich]

A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.

[jeroplane]

A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.

Yeah... are people actually liking the random unicorn vomit?

[kaiserreich]

This picture is edited from Origantiveco's two-tone beige keycap


The Tab legend is off.
Not sure about any of you, but I hate it.

[Shadovved]

A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.

Yeah... are people actually liking the random unicorn vomit?

Me sir!

[Jmneuv]

A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.

Even though i do agree with you, i think it's intentional..to be like real 'handmade' in a sense of a grandma self-knit jersey.

[tsangan]

A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.

I think there are some uniform to the madness, at first I thought the same way also when I first saw it but after staring it it for quite some time I think that there is something there though yes it can be argued that some of the colours are wacky but that's the charm this set has, its unique where it doesn't follow complete uniform structure.

I would be in for 3+ on this set for sure if it does flourish I would most likely only use one set and the other sets i would break apart and use part of it on another set and so forth

[Halverson]

A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.

I think there are some uniform to the madness, at first I thought the same way also when I first saw it but after staring it it for quite some time I think that there is something there though yes it can be argued that some of the colours are wacky but that's the charm this set has, its unique where it doesn't follow complete uniform structure.

I would be in for 3+ on this set for sure if it does flourish I would most likely only use one set and the other sets i would break apart and use part of it on another set and so forth

Exactly, I could only love to grab 2+ sets and use one fully then other set for pieces here and there. 3 sets may be the charm.
Everyone look into your hearts, look into the sky, taste the rainbow, embrace the habdarbeit.

[Glissant]

This picture is edited from Origantiveco's two-tone beige keycap

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The Tab legend is off.
Not sure about any of you, but I hate it.

What has been seen cannot be unseen. I wonder if that's how they do the tab or if it was an alignment issue in the software.

[baldgye]

but shouldn't those arrows be above and below the text ?? :/

[jdcarpe]

I think GMK owes Sherryton about 400 corrected Tab keys...

[asura]

To me, space is what I think of as an anchor key - as with J and F and they should be matched.  The two or three odd things to me are; numpad numbers different colour to row E numbers or alphas - I think I'd go for 0,1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9 red and 5 yellow, the salmon + and teal enter on the numberpad are just completely odd I'd put +-/*green enter, numlock yellow, . orange.

But that's just me... and I could be wrong...

[fruktstund]

I also noticed that Tab. Personally, I think it's kind of "fresh", but... It's ugly.

Something else that bothered me was that the Print Screen key says "Print Screen" instead of "Prt Sc", and that neither this nor the Pause key have the secondary legends. Not really as disturbing as the Tab legend though. (Also, Pause and Scroll Lock are in the wrong place, but that's something else)

[Glissant]

I think GMK owes Sherryton about 400 corrected Tab keys...

^ this.

Someone not lazy ask sherry?

[Acetrak]

I think Sherry has mentioned he will get them corrected in his subforum, but I believe that was with regards to the Prt Sc and side print stuff. Lemme see if I can find it.

EDIT: Found what I was talking about, I'm not sure about replacement keys though http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39549.msg781159#msg781159

[baldgye]

I also noticed that Tab. Personally, I think it's kind of "fresh", but... It's ugly.

Something else that bothered me was that the Print Screen key says "Print Screen" instead of "Prt Sc", and that neither this nor the Pause key have the secondary legends. Not really as disturbing as the Tab legend though. (Also, Pause and Scroll Lock are in the wrong place, but that's something else)

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IMO that looks kinda nice... I've never understood why it was abrivated when Scroll Lock wasn't...

[IvanIvanovich]

There is several version of some key, some abbreviated some not... I find you have to be super super specific about every detail with GMK even before I see some of these mistakes. I have no idea what went wrong with that tab key though. I have never seen one like that on any other Cherry set ever.

[Acetrak]

Hey lysol do you know if full sets will be ABCDEF or BBCCDE? Or will you be able to specify?

[IvanIvanovich]

My preference is BBCDEE. I think more people prefer this and is what is standard on most sets made after 1992 or so.